RE: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)
I'm so sorry about Caesar. But you know, he knew you were there when he needed you most of all. You saved him from such a terrible death and this alone is something you should feel good about. He knew that you'd always have a little piece of your heart saved just for him and he knew to claim it when he needed it. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 3:30 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Paul Hendel Subject: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS) Hello my beloved group, I just got the call from the vet. Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was limping. He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+. They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was blood in his saliva. The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from the kind of pain he must have been living with. I still hesitated, I still thought maybe there was a way. I asked if there could be any doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no. Before we left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the trap. His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel that comes from flea infestation. Poor little lamb! He was angry, but he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss. I spoke softly to him and told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home. I had so prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this afternoon. I had to finally decide to let him go. I'm so sick about not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be healthy today. I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer producing felv kittens. He lived the hard life of a cat on the street and I helped him as best I could. Thank you all for caring about a special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on my heart. Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend. I will love you always. Nina
RE: More info
Julia, Don't ever say 'this is all I can do'--what you're doing is wonderful! Samantha is loved and well cared for. That's more than so many kitties have... Make her as comfortable as you can, give her lots of hugs--that's what she needs right now. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julia Hagstrom Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:26 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: More info Nina and Belinda, I took my kitty to the Cancer Center today, and yes, she saw a specialist, a Dr. who was filling in for Dr. Harris while she's on vacation, and really knows her stuff. :) She made sure that the problem is lymphoma, and said it is hiding in her lymph nodes, which is why she couldn't see the mass clearly on the X-ray we brought from my regular vet (the vet I've been taking her to since I got her). Unfortunately, when a tumor gets into the lymph nodes and then the bones, it is a death sentence. I know this because it's also what happened to my husband; he died of bladder cancer, when the second tumor was in his body cavity, and surgery wasn't an option. While he was trying to decide whether to take more aggressive chemo for it, after having the tumor shrunk to the size of a golfball by chemo and radiation, the tumor grew back very fast, and got into his lymph nodes and bones. His Dr.s knew that it was the end for him, and he was dead within a week's time after that. That's why I know that, no matter what I do, Samantha will die, and I just don't see the point of doing the chemo and radiation when it will only prolong her life by a few months, not a very long time at all. If it were longer, I would consider it, but I haven't got a job, right now, and so money has to be a very big consideration, whether I want it to be or not. It would cost about $1500.00 for just the radiation treatments, because that was the estimate they gave me today, on top of the cost of her visit and treatment today. She has been given a short-term chemo injection, and will receive 3 more of these, but they won't last very long, and they will make her comfortable. She is also on Children's Benadryl, to prevent an allergic reaction to the second injection, and Prednisone. I want her to be comfortable for as long as possible, but she isn't very strong, and I don't know how long she'll last. I want to do right by her, but this is all I can do. I won't prolong her life just for my own selfish ends, and I won't keep her with me, if she is suffering greatly; I'll let her go, and set her free. Thanks for all the advice, I really appreciate it. I've received quite an education from all the Emails I've read from y'all, and will continue to look forward to them. Julia
Re: new to FeLV
Thank you! It is wonderful that there are people like you out there who are willing to help a cat who may not be 'perfect'. It upsets me how many vets would rather put these guys to sleep when they can live a healthy life. I think all cats deserve a chance at life and love. Thanks for caring, Chris - Original Message - From: Roxane Baldwin To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 7:09 PM Subject: new to FeLV Hi, About a week and a half ago we had a stray come to our house. Because I have a FIV cat I took this guy right into the vets office to be tested. He came back FeLV +, we went ahead and neutered him, I would not hear of putting this little black beauty to sleep, he is a great boy, not feral at all. He came home from the vets with a little respiratory issue but we cleared that right up with amoxi. He was just as full of worms as a cat can get, so we've treated him for that but now the diarrhea is really bad and I cannot seem to get if firmed up. He is on Natural Balance, I would like to get him onto raw. This boy has not really shown any signs of illness other then what I've mentioned, and the vet seems to think that his health is not really too bad. I guess I don't know my options and my vet just says that he will do whatever I want but I need more options then death by lethal injection or bring home to watch die. Help! Roxane __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: My Sign from Bailey
like he was always smiling--and Bailey is! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: My Sign from Bailey I'm alittle speechless at the moment ... I sometimes turn the news on sometimes I don't, this morning something told me to turn it on. I had sent a photo of my KC to use on the pet paws section they use on the weather forecast. They told me they would email and let me know when it would be used if they use it, so I don't watch the news every morning. Just now on the weather forecast they showed a photo of the beach, it was overcast and cloudy but in the clouds there was a VERY clear section on the right that looked exactly like the outline of a cats face and even more looks exactly like a photo I have of Bailey (a close up I took several years ago), same tilt of his head, same white mark on the right side of his face that made him look like he was always smiling. And the weather forecaster remarked doesn't that look like a cats face, that's when I could clearly see it. I'm going to try and find out when the person that sent it in took it. It looked like the photo in the link below, mostly just the face part ... it gave me chills! http://www.bemikitties.com/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?album=/Baileymode=viewpi cturepicture=bailey2.jpg I thanked Bailey for giving me a sign like I asked him. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!!
Tad-youre amazing. Not only would Switters love itthe old guys would probably love for him to have somebody else to play withIm sure theyd be happy refereeing and watching! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! I bet Switters would like a young boy.. Switters is almost a year old and super active... Don't let him be euthanized... If no one else will take him and he can get to Vermont we can make space here... Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will find out location soon. This was a forward from another rescue group. Can anyone help this kitty? From: Becky McCaffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:48 PM To: Susan Linker; Sarkosi,Diana A; Pet Protectors Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: URGENT-Bert needs HELP!! Bert is a very sweet FeLV+ kitty who is almost a year old. He is scheduled to be euthanized soon-he needs help ASAP!! He has been looking for a home since he was two months old. Here is his story: PLEASE HELP BERT!!! HE IS IN DIRE STRAITS!! Bert is a very sweet, friendly little guy who has tested positive for feline leukemia. Cats with leukemia can still have a good life, and we hope that this will be the case for poor little Bert. He currently appears to be in very good health. He is very playful and affectionate, and is DESPERATELY seeking a home. Bert has been fully vaccinated and neutered. If you would like to give this sweet little boy a chance to live a good life, please send an e-mail and request an application, or call the shelter. Don't pass him by and think that someone ELSE will surely adopt him-LET IT BE YOU Bert was adopted last year along with his FeLV+ friend Jill by a woman who turned out to be bi-polar, and he was returned to the shelter. His best friend Jill was soon adopted out again, leaving Bert behind. Bert is scheduled to be euthanized soon-PLEASE help him!! Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Owner/Driver Check sites for available Siameses for adoption! http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html Petfinder.com Adopt a Homeless Pet! http://www.petfinder.com/ http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
RE: What can I do?
I can understand what youre feeling. My Tucson tested neg when I got her as a kitten and years later tested pos. Shed been an indoor cat all her life and not been exposed. Two vets told me that the Elissa can produce a false neg in kittens as timing is the key with kittens. Anyway, I had 3 other non-vaccinated cats that Tucson lived with all that timetwo of them had come in after her as kittens. They all tested neg and I got them vaccinated. There was no way I could or would separate the family and its been OK.. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ntigat Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:37 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: What can I do? After a year, a female cat that I foster on my home that was in the first test FELV -, I retested again and the result was FELV +. I repeat the test because I notice that in the clinic that I made the first test, some of the results was FALSE NEGATIVE. They use a kit that never produces FELV + My question is: what can I do with the rest of the cats of my home? Retest them? If one of the cat is FELV can I vaccinate him? What about the FELV +? I can't separate them because I have not space to do that. Thanks in advance, Virginia LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com
RE: sedative before flying (ACE)
I've taken Tucson a couple of times across the country. I never gave her ACE---I was prepared for all possibilities---had a backpack that weighed a ton with food, water, wipes, leash, collars, health cert, toys, towels, and on and on. She slept the whole way. I had to change planes and opened the flaps on the carrier (Sherpa softsided) so she could see out--she sort of looked at me like I was insane! The only problem I had was that they make you take the cat out of the carrier when you go thru metal detector. I had put a harness on her before we left home and when I had to take her out, I clipped the leash which I wrapped around my arm. Then I picked her out of the top of the carrier by putting a big towel around her and lifting her so tthat it covered her and she couldn't see all those people looking at her. Security said something about having to see the cat so I let them peek as I held her. Then I just put her back in the carrier at the end of the xray machine thing-before I put on my shoes, grabbed my backpack and just got myself together. I wouldn't use ACE for a flight--they say that the change in cabin pressure and the ACE are not a good match. I think that most cats don't like all those strange people around them and just go off to sleep. I used a medium sized soft-sided carrier--fits better under the seat. At one point, it was sticking out a bit because airlines had put something or other under the seat in front of me--steward pointed that out and I asked where they would like me to put her! Nobody every bothered me again... Tucson did a whole lot better on the flight than I did--I suspect that's about normal! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: sedative before flying (ACE) Hey folks, I'm flying to Minneapolis on Saturday, a 2.5 hour flight from LIttle Rock, and taking a sweet, energetic young Siamese kitty to his owner. Kitty will ride in the cabin with me. I've never taken a kitty on board with me before, so a new experience. The vet gave me a sedative, ACE., and am pondering whether to use the sedative or not. Someone said that another option would be Benadryl, along with Rescue Remedy. Any experiences with taking kitties on flights? With ACE? Think the dosage was 1/2 tablet followed by 1/4 if needed. Thanks much! Gloria
RE: Interesting Reading
Bailey was right there watching--he's home and he's healthy! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Interesting Reading Wendy, Things are going as well as they can. We got Bailey's ashes back yesterday, Mike made a nice oak box with a spot for Bailey's photo on the front. I also got a pawprint impression and I have some fur from the last time I was cutting mats off of him. I'm going to put his favorite toy in with him (he loved those electrical outlet covers). The other kitties seem to be handling it OK, in fact after Mike brought Bailey home yesterday and put him up on the shelf with Buddie, Teenye and Synder several of them looked up there as if they were looking at something. Yesterday Joey was in my lap laying across my shoulder while I was sitting on the couch and he kept looking behind my head like someone was there, KC likes to lay there but he wasn't then, I kept talking to him and finally he focused on me for a second then looked behind me again. Maybe Bailey was visiting us. :) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Diabetic cat seems OK!!!!
This is the message Rita posted on another board soundsl ike good news Following is an email, I received from Dr. Lisa Pierson, DVM [EMAIL PROTECTED] kittysaver @ (aol.com) What a wonderful world it is for cats with Dr. Pierson in it! Here is Dr. Pierson's Email regarding the Diabetic kitty that was going to be Euth yesterday: To all: I contacted Richard and gave him the link to my website which has a lot of very valuable information on Feline Diabetes diet and management. I am not on several of the groups on this email list so please feel free to forward this email to those groups. (Rita...could you forward?) Hopefully, the members will find benefit in looking at my website: http://www.catinfo.org I just spent 30 min on the phone with him and Dodger (his cat) is going to get her diet changed and will go on insulin so euthanasia is NOT being considered. With any luck, Dodger will end up being diet controlled and not need insulin as that does happen on occasion. If not, then insulin will be administered. Lisa Pierson, dvm http://www.catinfo.org Feeding Your Cat: Know the Basics of Feline Nutrition Feline Diabetes and Diet: The High Carbohydrate Culprit Quality Commercial Canned Foods Making Cat Food The Litter Box From Your Cat's Point of View Pilling Cats and Dogs - Erosive Esophagitis Rita Cockrell Wood, Founder PurrEver Ranch Sanctuary (A Hospice For Senior Kittizens) Website: http://www.purreverranch.org Spring Mewsletter: http://www.gotcats.org/springmews06.html BE A RESCUER without ever having to clean a litterbox or pick up a hairball! Sponsor A Senior Kittizen! http://www.gotcats.org/sponsor.html If only the waifs, the strays, the sick, the abused would be sure to get entrance to the home, and anybody could feel at liberty to bring in a starved or ill-treated animal and have it cared for without pay, my object would be attained.. Ellen M Gifford Sheltering Home For Animals Boston 1884 Saving Just One Cat Won't Change The World But It Will Surely Change The World Of One Cat. Please Give...So They Can Live Raise money for PurrEver Ranch Sanctuary just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - http://www.goodsearch.com - powered by YAHOO! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Can we please add this poor baby to the CLS? I'm not sure if he/she got rescued or killed. I'm not sure even if the shelter he is at is a humane euth shelter, MANY of them still use gas chambers, you know. I hope he was humanely euthed by now... or rescued and given medical care, one of the two (though I think euth would be kinder). I was hoping to get him/her on the CLS in the part where we pray for healing and comfort to those that are still with us. I did get several people saying they emailed about him, but did not get a reply yet. I sent a note to the purrever ranch, they are the ones who first posted the message, maybe they have more contact info than was in the post. Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name) http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND: Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him, Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home! http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels!
Re: Fwd: Interesting Information Please read.....
I had it happen recently and completely burned both my hands. It was not fun! Chris - Original Message - From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Interesting Information Please read. Beg pardon on this but I have had it happen numerous times and so has my friends..at least to the point that water has violently boiled over, enough to burn someone badly. It occurs especially when water is reheated. I, too, thought this was rare but, with all due respect to snopes, I have seen it happen too many times. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Interesting Information Please read. It can happen but is rare, here is snopes.com info on it: http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave.asp -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Bailey has gone home
Belinda, I'm so very sorry for your loss. I always liked to hear about Bailey and he sounded like such a special little guy. You and Bailey are responsible for saving countless lives and are both true heroes! I know you are missing him terribly... but he will always be in your heart---just like he'll always be in ours. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 12:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Bailey has gone home Bailey left us at 6:20 this evening. He took a bad turn for the worse late last night and when I took him in this morning for his surgery it was evident he wasn't in good enough shape. We gave him fluids for a couple hours because he was dehydrated, his blood pressure was 60 and his temperature went from 103 yesterday to 98 today, his blood work was normal except his platelet count was low so he wasn't clotting and suregery was out of the question unless we could get his platelet count up. After two hours of fluids and a blood transfusion his platelets came up but his temperature was now 94, 96 puts kitties at risk for heart failure and she couldn't even get a blood pressure. My vet said we have 3 options, we could continue the fluids and support and see if things changed and if they did he could have the surgery tomorrow. Go ahead with the surgery and get in and out as quickly as possible or she could euthanise him. I asked her what she honestly thought of his condition, she said she though he was leaving on his own, I agreed. We talked, I asked her what to expect if he was going to die and she told me what the likely scenarios would be, she gave me a syringe of pain meds incase it got really bad for him, it would basically knock him out so he wouldn't suffer and pass on his own, she had a dinner engagement but told me to call if she was needed. I had told Bailey it was his decision to stay or go, and told him to do what was best for him. I brought him home on the fluids to keep supporting him and if he did turn for the better we would consider the surgery later. His breathing got worse just taking him to the car so I knew in my heart we didn't have long. We had about an hour, he was home with us and we were with him when he left. He is whole now and FeLV free for the first time. We were so lucky to have him for 11 years, his birthday was Monday. I will miss his bouncy, happy personality. He was so special and I learned so much thanks to him. He was our only positive and the one that was responsible for my learning everything I have about FeLV+, he has helped me save many positives and for that I thank him. I miss my little Baidely boys so much already ... take care all. Give your special guys and extra special hug for Bailey. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Bailey has gone home
I'm sure he is--getting lots of hugs from all the other little guys whose time he helped make just that much easier! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 1:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bailey has gone home Thank you Chris, atleast he is his bouncy, happy self again. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Was appropriate calorie in take for a kitty - Now Bailey'sDiagnosis
Belinda, SO sorry to hear that its getting so tough for Bailey... Keeping toes and finders crossed for tomorrow Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re:Was appropriate calorie in take for a kitty - Now Bailey'sDiagnosis Hi All, Just got back from the vets. Xrays show something going on with the intestines, they do not look right and are bunched up with the actual loops really not disernable, also there is an enlarged lymph node around his lung that wasn't there on the last xray. My vet suspects that he now possibly has lymphoma. He is having surgery tomorrow morning to open his tummy and see if there is a tumor or diffused cancer and take biopsies of his intestines and since she will have him open she will check the rest of his organs, kidney's, bladder, spleen, liver which all look OK on xray. Obviously with him being in the shape he has been in for the last 4 or so months, there is a very real possibility he will not survive the surgery, please pray that whatever happens he doesn't have any unnecessary pain and that he doesn't suffer. I am going to spend the day with him and let him know whatever choice he makes is fine with me and I will be OK ... I hope he chooses to stick around for a while longer. His tube looks OK, no white matter around it to show that there is any leakage or that anything has been aspirated and his breathing is normal again, so his intestines being bunched up would explain the food not going through and him starting to throw it back up. It would also explain why he is so uncomfortable when it is time to feed him, I imagine the food just sitting in his tummy and be forced out by his next meal can't feel very good. He does have a fever again and she gave me some clinic care to see if that will go through and give him some nutrients, his weight is good at 9lbs. 8oz. Well I'm going to go feed him. Take care all. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Was appropriate calorie in take for a kitty - NowBailey's Diagnosis
You know, you and Bailey know how to 'talk' to each other. You know him better than anybody... The situation you're in is all of our worst nightmares... No matter what, Bailey feels your love and your concern... He knows that you've always done right by him. The gifts the two of you have given to each other over these years are what he knows and feels. There's no such thing as 'handling' such a terrible decision...We make these sorts of decisions from our hearts not our minds... and your heart is big enough to do the right thing. You can't possibly make a 'bad' decision--what you feel in your heart is right is the only 'good' decision. Here's hoping things go better than you're worried about... Give the little guy a big hug from all of us... We're all thinking about him--and you! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 4:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Was appropriate calorie in take for a kitty - NowBailey's Diagnosis Thank you Wendy, it's been so hard these last months seeing him this way, he in better health is such a bouncy happy-go-lucky boy, gets along with everyone. It's been hard watching him not feel well for so long and not being able to figure out why. If nothing else we may finally understand what has been causing him to feel so rotten for so long. I just pray it is treatable. I can't tell you how many times on the cancer lists I'm on that someones furchild was having surgery that started out optimistically and once the vet had their fur child open realized just how bad things really were and then with moms/dads input decided not to wake their furchild up. I don't know if I could handle a decision like that, that's why if things are really that bad I hope Bailey takes the decision out of my hands ... like Buddie did. I'm one of those people who has a very hard time losing control and showing my emotions so I keep everything bottled up and don't deal with it, in a way its not good because I distance myself so it won't hurt as bad. And the look on Bailey's face whenever he sees me just tears my heart out, but I keep telling myself when he gets better he will forgive me and forget all the hard times. But if he doesn't get better it will be hard to deal with ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Question about home test kits-/Chris
Its sad but true that a number of shelters did get monies but somehow never told anybody about itagain, a minority. I found more often than not that the smaller places didnt know about monies available. What about AlleyCat Allies, could they help you out? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Question about home test kits-/Chris In a message dated 5/1/06 11:51:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, shelters can receive reimbursement for all those expenses.. including HW treatment. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they do know and did get reimbursed A lot has changed from the first day I became involved with this shelter, especially since the founder married. And, due to personal health problems has given almost all of her involvement over to her spouse. Don't get me wrong, this is a GREAT shelter/sanctuary. The work they do is amazing. They've been able to save thousands of poor souls. They have GROWN. BUT.w/ hubby having so much control, well, things are really different, and some great philosophies have changed. And, personally I DO have a problem with HIM driving around in a Corvette when her philosophy had always been LIVE SIMPLY SO OTHERS MAY SIMPLY LIVE. Maybe I'm just old, and burnt out. But, heavens, if I'm willing to pay their cost for the kits, foster the animals( including paying all other expenses), adopt them out and then give THEM the adoption fee, well, I just don't get it Rescue really does get in your blood. Maybe I need a transfusion. Patti
RE: Question about home test kits-esp Nina,lol
You know, shelters can receive reimbursement for all those expenses.. including HW treatment. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 6:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Question about home test kits-esp Nina,lol Ok, here's the story in a nutshell.. First, yes, I know about SNAP, I know they can be ordered online,I know they're considered the best.BUT, they are too pricey. The shelter I am affiliated withis a 501(c)3, and Idexx gives us a shelter discount, which is HUMONGOUS However, since we are No-Kill, and it IS kitten season (joy,joy -NOT!!), the shelter is NOT taking any more cats, not even kittens!! PLUS - They will not sanction anyone fostering strays, as they always did in the past. (Reimbursement for food, meds, vx's, S/N) Much of this is due to the fact that they helped in the Katrina rescue effort. A little overboard, IMO. They made 3 trips, each time with 6 people, and footed the entire bill, courtesy of the rescue's . And, they stayed at motels, ate out, you get my point. Also, they had 42 HW positive dogs they had to treat. You do the math. Now, don't get me wrong, I was/am very PRO Katrina rescues, but this shelter really couldn't afford to absorb the cost of 3 trips.. Now, the local homeless/strays have to suffer. Also, we have been told, that they will not order/provide ANYTHING for us that have started doing independent rescue. Nice, huh? After 25+ years, I can't even get a single tube of eye ointment! My friend and I, who religiously do the Adoption events EVERY week, are inundated with cries for help! How can I/we say no? Especially when we know what the fate of these babies will be?? We need to test all these (un)sanctioned strays, prior to adoptions. Just was hoping for a more dollar friendly option. Frustrated, Patti
RE: mixing
Tad, I absolutely agree with you This is essentially a condition that tries to suppress the immune system. What kind of shape that immune system is in to begin with is based on so many factors that its impossible to predict. Most of these little ones are born to mothers who were strays and were not getting good food, and warmth, and all those things they needed. Kittens born to strays, unfortunately, have got to be at greater risk irrespective of FELV status. As for Switters, Im so glad hes doing welltalk about a survivorthat one got good genes from somewhere, didnt he! I bet the old guys are sort of looking at him waiting for him to come out of that lets play mode I talked to Jean a few weeks ago and she was worried about one of her cats who had developed a degenerative disc problem. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: mixing I personally don't believe there is any predictable answer... I have two mother cats who came here with kittens.. The mothers tested negative but the kittens were positive... I have vaccinated the mothers but not retested because they are here to stay anyway but they are both very healthy... The oldest one has been here almost 3 years... She had two kittens... One kitten was pos the other neg... The neg. kitten was good for a couple months then one morning she was very week... 3 hours later at the vets office she had a convulsion and died... The pos kitty is still alive 3 years later... He gets a lot of antibiotics for his gums and has to be encouraged to eat enough to keep his weight up but with that he is doing good It must be a lot more than just being pos... I lost 4 of the Angel Wings 6 in a very short time and it appeared that they had made a full recover from their ordeal... The 2 that are left have no problems at all now... I wonder if any have gone negative.. Tad PS Switter is doing great so far..Every body likes him and he give some exercise to the old guys here... He sure is full of life... I wonder if he has a bit of bengal in him... He does have some spots on his back Chris wrote: I brought in two kittens (6 weeks 3 months) after I found my Tucson. My oldest cat was about 1 ½ years old when Tucson came. All four cats lived together for 4+ years before I discovered Tucson was pos. Theyve all consistently tested neg; I now get them vaccinated though I hadnt before. I figure if they havent all come up pos by now, its awfully hard to catch it! Theyve eaten out of the same dishes, use the same boxes, groom each other, have their little spats with the usual scratches, bumps and bruises Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: mixing a year. but I got my positive unknowingly and both she and another kitten of 3-4 months were basically like littermates.. t carrie chance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adults, what age do you consider an adult .. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Re: mixing I say mix, no need to vaccinate healthy adult cats. The FELV vaccine is MORE apt to CAUSE vaccine associated sarcoma (cancer) than it is to improve immunity against FELV in adult cats. In other words, there are more BAD things against the VACCINE than there are bad things against mixing adult cats with FELV+ cats. And yes, I can back that up with facts if needed. That is, of course, MY personal advise, and it will vary between members here. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND: Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him, Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home! http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/322 - Release Date: 4/22/2006
RE: mixing
I brought in two kittens (6 weeks 3 months) after I found my Tucson. My oldest cat was about 1 ½ years old when Tucson came. All four cats lived together for 4+ years before I discovered Tucson was pos. Theyve all consistently tested neg; I now get them vaccinated though I hadnt before. I figure if they havent all come up pos by now, its awfully hard to catch it! Theyve eaten out of the same dishes, use the same boxes, groom each other, have their little spats with the usual scratches, bumps and bruises Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: mixing a year. but I got my positive unknowingly and both she and another kitten of 3-4 months were basically like littermates.. t carrie chance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adults, what age do you consider an adult .. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Re: mixing I say mix, no need to vaccinate healthy adult cats. The FELV vaccine is MORE apt to CAUSE vaccine associated sarcoma (cancer) than it is to improve immunity against FELV in adult cats. In other words, there are more BAD things against the VACCINE than there are bad things against mixing adult cats with FELV+ cats. And yes, I can back that up with facts if needed. That is, of course, MY personal advise, and it will vary between members here. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND: Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him, Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home! http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/322 - Release Date: 4/22/2006
RE: positive
Absolutely agree! By putting so much emphasis on the test, they also put the idea in prospective adopter that somehow the cat is doomed to an early death! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: positive This is why I wish shelters wouldn't even test. They put down cats who are probably not positive, and they make people 'think' a cat is negative due to a test coming up negative while the cat has been exposed to tons of other cats and just hasn't had time to test positive yet. My opinion is separate the kittens from the adults (unless it's mothers and kittens) and treat felv like a 'treatable' disease. Which it IS. It's not like shelters test their hearts, or kidneys, or whatever and say 'in the future your cat looks like it may have kidney problems so let's just euthanize it now. t TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not sure what the question is--but a cat that tests negative when you don't know for sure that the cat hasn't been in contact with a positive cannot be assumed to actually BE negative, because of that same 120-day window say you take in a cat that's been exposed in the previous week--might well test negative, but in a month would test positive so ALL tests, ideally, should be repeated in 120-days: this hypothetical kitty who got outdoors and mixed with positives could test negative at day 10 of exposure, positive on day 45, and have processed the virus out of its body at the 120-day mark. if you want to od on medical terminology, go to scirus.com, and type in FeLV much of the info is way beyond my everyday knowledge, and a lot of the cites that come up are dated--but there's some neat stuff there anyway (grabbing medical dictionary and virology text for next period of nothing-better-to-do time) -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
RE: positive
Heres the thingthese viruses have been around forevertheyre not new. If they were all that contagious and lethal then there would be NO cats left anywhere. Back before tests, everybody was mixed and nobody got tested or vaccinated. Then all of a sudden these tests came out and with them all this rush to pts any cat that tested positive. Kittens are always at more risk from anything. No doubt they have the hardest time of all if they have pre-natal exposure and it is heart breaking to see these little one struggle so hard and not make it. But pts any cat of any age who is pos is a travesty! I have two adults who are pos. My vet never batted an eyelash about mixing. Are there risks? Im sure there are but I just dont think theyre anywhere near what the big pharmaceutical companies would have you believe. Are the adults more susceptible to cancers and blood disorders-sure. But does that mean they cant have a good, happy lifeof course not! I dont have either of mine on interferonyoud sort of have to know them to know what a MAJOR stress that would be for them. I do give them some good food, some supplements and a whole lot of loving! As for my 3 negs, I do get them vaccinated though they lived with what I didnt know was a positive since their own kittenhood and they all remain neg. I wish that testing was only used to determine any appropriate medical treatmentnot to determine whether cat should immediately live or die; not to determine whether the cat is a death sentence for any other cats. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: positive yeah, well, that IS the question 70% of adult, healthy cats can be exposed to the virus and throw it off--it's generally believed to take 90-120 days for that to happen if it's gonna. therefore, unless you know EXACTLY where (and with whom!) the cat has been in the previous 90-120 days, you can't really believe either a negative OR a positive result this means that cats who have been exposed, but will throw off the virus, will be killed in the shelters/rescues/vet's offices because they don't have either the information or the facilities to hold the kitty for retesting; if also means that a stray from the streets who tests negative may still have been exposed in the recent past and may test positive later on even cats tested positive on the ifa can retest negative after a time--i'd found a reference once, tho it's no longer where it was originally!--that in rare cases the time for an IFA to go back to negative was up to 7 months following exposure. i have never heard of a documented case of a vaccinated negative cat turning positive from living, closely, with positives i do know of a number of cats who originally tested positive (back before people knew to retest) who did indeed test negative months and even years after they'd gone to live in positive-only environments--so clearly, they were healthy enough to throw the initial exposure off, and to remain negative afterward. one specific cat in that category went through two major bouts of illness that were considered life-threatening--to the force-feeding stage--and the little brat bounced back from both those episodes, stayed in the FeLV colony, and two years later, was found to be negative after all... On 4/20/06, carrie chance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what the heck good is testing and vaccinating then? - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: RE: positive I hasn't happened to me but statistically it's supposed to have 2/3 of cases might it might take a few months to really know it, though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of hd cc Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:50 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: positive Okay anyone ever have a positive turn negitive? or am I screwed! Sincerely Carrie -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
RE: positive
Nothing is ever 100%. Had one who tested neg as a very young kitten on Elissa5 years later showed positive. Been an indoor cat her whole lifenot exposed to any other cats except the 3 others I had at the time all of whom were neg then and continue to be neg! Two vets told me that with very young kittens, its possible to get a neg on snap test so go figure. I just sort of stopped worrying about itfigure there are a whole lot more cats out there who are pos than we know about. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of carrie chance Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: positive what the heck good is testing and vaccinating then? - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: RE: positive I hasnt happened to me but statistically its supposed to have 2/3 of cases might it might take a few months to really know it, though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hd cc Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:50 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: positive Okay anyone ever have a positive turn negitive? or am I screwed! Sincerely Carrie
RE: Achilles,Reva and Nike Please add them to the CLS
Sherry, I cant believe what you and the folks at Crash have gone thru in these last weeks. No matter what, all these little ones have gotten the love and attention they so deserved from you and your friends Im so sorry that youve lost them but I know that theyll always occupy a little space in your heart. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:05 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: Achilles,Reva and Nike Please add them to the CLS I am crying while I write this,I just received an e-mail from one of our volunteers and she told us that poor Jen had to send all three of them to the bridge.Achilles was a fav handsome boy who had fiv and felv,Reva was one of our hurricane Katrina girls who had chronic breathing problems from the minute she came to us,but she always seemed happy and enjoyed the treats that I gave her.And little Nike was a small pretty b/w beauty that Jen had to put metal pins in both back legs from being hit by a car.She took her to work with her everyday and home every night for the first month,then she ended up with infections in her legs and they were going to have to amputate one of them.Please say a special prayer for Jen she took it so hard today that she wasn't even up to e-mailing us herself.I sent her a nice little e-mail to tell her how much I appreciate and admire all that she does for these beautiful babies.Also prayers are needed for another one of our Crash's kitties Necie I guess she isn't too well either.THank you all for listening and being here for me.God Bless you all Sherry New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.
RE: Transportation question
Ive flown twice with my Tucson and had health certificates each time. Airlines never looked at it but I would never chance not having one. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Transportation question I assume some of the list members have transported FeLV+ cats to various states, has anyone ever had any trouble with authorities for transporting a cat without a valid health certificate across a state line? I know it is illegal to bring animals into my state without a health certificate and you can't fly animals without one. Gary
RE: Buddy has come to stay
My Romeo is a stray I was feeding for a couple of years. He was always terrified if my hands came near him and yet would always come running to rub up against my legs. I brought him in when we expectign sub-zero temps and a major snow storm. He has turned into the most loving affectionate cat in the brood! I know he was somebodys throw away cat-hes FELV+ I suspect they threw him out when they found out. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Becca DuBose Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Buddy has come to stay You're right, to everyone else he'll be just one more outdoor cat who's disappeared without any warning or explanation. There were cats all over this neighborhood when we moved to this house 5-1/2 years ago and they all seemed to live at a house across the street...an endless cycle of kittens and more kittens. Around the time TorTor died in July 2004, we realized suddenly that almost all of them were gone. It must have become a hotbed of disease and death over there. That was TorTor's home [sic] and we believe Buddy is a close relative. Buddy was so well behaved at the vet's. He would have preferred not to have his temperature taken, of course, and he didn't see why he should be still long enough to get weighed. He is a big boy...11.5#, mostly muscle! He was so relaxed and compliant for everything else, I just couldn't believe it. I'd been so sure he was going to put up a fight when they drew his blood. Sadly, he did test FIV+, but I knew in my heart that he would. His puncture wounds aren't as bad as I had feared. They've abcessed outward and there's a little drainage, but the tissue looks clean and has good color. He has a mild fever and they put him on clindamycin plus Metacam for pain. We'll have to wait and see how well he recovers from the infection. Now that I've had a better look at the wounds I think the big fight must have happened at least a couple of days ago and he's going through the worst part of the recovery phase right now. We'll neuter him once he gets past this. Then what, I don't know. I took him to a new low cost clinic that's nearer my home and has later hours than our regular doc. I was very pleased and impressed with the clinic and staff, so this will be our new backup clinic. My original plan was to take Buddy back there for his surgery but now I want him to see our regular doc. The more I reflect on our experience with Paassht, the more I trust her to take the approach with positives (of both kinds). Becca catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Becca, Bless you for doing the right thing. I know we all have too many. But sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. My last addition had been injured outside as well. That was the last straw and I brought her in. And I would not worry one little bit about anyone missing her. They won't. t Becca DuBose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I can't remember whether I've mentioned Buddy on this list. He is the neighborhood cat we feed from time to time. Picture here: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/landlimo/Buddy1.jpg I don't know where he belongs. We've observed him making rounds but we have no idea where his actual home, if any, might be. He showed up yesterday evening with untreated injuries...again. His last set of scrapes just needed a little Bag Balm. Now he's hurt his leg and the skin has scabbed over, but it's clearly a deeper wound. This time he's in pain and I've had it. NO MORE. If someone decides to start worrying now what's happened to him, too little, too late, too bad. We can't bear the thought of coming home one day to find him seriously injured or dead. He is such a sweet boy. He never let us get near him until his friend TorTor died in 2004. He watched us bury her and he seems to have decided we were OK after seeing how we took care of her until the very end. We used to see him sitting near her grave sometimes. We let him check out the house for a little while then confined him to our Florida room for the night. After posting this he and I are off to have the leg checked and test for FeLV/FIV. TorTor had FIV so I'm trying to prepare myself psychologically. Please send healing thoughts and prayers his way. Becca Ollie, Sierra, Kroger, Angel Paassht, Sonic, Chandra, Corky, Io, Angel TorTor and now sweet Buddy Bear!!
RE: ImmunoRegulin for Chelsea?
My Tucson had two episodes where her White Blood Count went way DOWN... Vet gave her a series of immuno-regulin and it went back up. She didn't seem to have any major side effects--for her that means she kept on eating in her ususal piggy way (she's a bit of a Porko!) Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ACALA PET ISSUES Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: ImmunoRegulin for Chelsea? Hi, Any advise would be appreciated greatly. One of my 11 month old felv+ cats - Chelsea - who has been on a course of clavamox until a couple of days ago for a slight fever and lethargy has just developed very pale gums. They weren't pale 2 weeks ago when she last saw the vet. I know that pale gums are indicative of anemia. I'm trying to convince a vet to try Immunoregulin. Has anyone had much success with this therapy? Chelsea already gets interferon orally. Thanks, Deanne
RE: Belinda
Belinda--just a little advice--as soon as you're up to it--WALK! Stooped over, shuffling along, but WALK! Used to go up and down the hallway in my apt building shuffling along from one end of the hall to the other but it really paid off--not to be tacky--but it sorts of gets everything back on track in the old intestinal tract! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Belinda So far so good, just have to try and not over do it, am going to go rest now, already been sitting too long ... It's s good to be home :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Just Needed to Share
Today one of my cats turned 7. Bandit has been with us since he was 6 weeks old. He is not Felv+ but he does have bad asthma. Two days ago I remembered his brother, Smoky, who did four years ago of cancer. Just two days before his birthday. Every year, I worry about Bandit getting cancer since the vet thought that Smoky's cancer was hereditary. But thankfully each year he is still cancer free. Bandit is also the oldest cat in our family and has also beaten my record with cats. My very first cat, Sarge, passed away just 5 years after I found him. He also had cancer. Then we had to put Moonshadow down 5 years after we found him. He was so sick and there was no hope. Then there was Smoky. And the most recent lost was my Sylvester who was Felv+ and passed away last year, just 2 years after we rescued him. Now I have 2 cats with Asthma, one also is Felv+, and 11 cats that so far are healthy as can be! I am thankful for all the time I am allowed to spend with my "kids", even when it is short. Every year on Bandit's birthday, I celebrate the good and remember the sad. Thanks for letting me talk. Chris
RE: question
Listen, I have one who is absolutely terrorized by the 2 of the others. Thing is that hes a much better street fighter and the fights with Tucson when she sits on top of him always end up with her losinghe bites! She still wont leave it alone Tried felway, rr, etc etc. I think shes partly jealous and partly afraid---shes better with him around these daysbut he cant move! The other cat Bumper is just the town bullynone of them pay attention to her except my Romeo who still hasnt figured out that if he doesnt run when she charges, shell just back away and go pick on somebody else I know how stressful it is and how there are times when yelling is all you can do! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: question I believe you. I actually prefer fresh catnip, so I will be getting that soon. Thanks again for your tips! Terri - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:45 PM Subject: Re: question Watching you freak is part of the game. Honest. Try the Feliway, RR and really good (fresh plants are nice) catnip. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Terri Brown To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: Re: question Thanks Marylyn. They've been at it for 2 years. I hope they work it out soon! I think it stresses me out more than it does them! T - Original Message - From: Marylyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:35 PM Subject: Re: question It is a game. Let them work it out. At least if they are not causing injury to each other. Remember when you were in grade school and you made the mistake of letting someone know what bothered you.being called a name, a look etc? The kids picked up on it and the name stuck or you got pestered or whatever. The more you interfere the worse it will get. However, with all of them, you can spray Feliway in the house, use good quality catnip and Rescue Remedy to mellow them out. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Terri Brown To: felvtalk Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: OT: question Hey gang, Since I am not able to do it myself no matter how I try, is there anyone on this list who might be able to tell me why my Siggie is so aggressive with Guinevere? She is VERY intolerant of him. Anytime he gets near her, she gets very bent out of shape, and will usually end up running away from him. Sometimes he will let this go, but other times he will attack her and bite her. They're both FeLV negative, so I'm not worried about that, it's just that I can't seem to make Siggie understand that his little sisfur Guin really doesn't want to be pestered by him. I don't get it what it is between the two of them. Travis sometimes goes for her too, but I get the VERY strong impression that he's just playing (he's still a kitten, but getting VERY big). She just has no interest whatsoever in the boys. Thoughts? =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 Come check me out on MySpace at http://www.myspace.com/terricrazycatlady Earth and Family Safe Products! http://www.moreinfo247.com/9162990/VCL Nice Offers! www.niceoffers.com/9162990 Buy Avon Online! http://www.youravon.com/theresabrown
RE: New journey-laying tile!!!
I think it sort of looks easier than it is. My parents had tile put in their kitchen living/dining room. My father had wanted to do it himself but we are all sooo glad he didn't try. The guys came in, did the job 1-2-3, cleaned up, came back the next day to do the grouting, cleaned up, and left. It's a real hard job physically and you could eat up a lot of tile cutting for corners and edges. Also, they just have the eye for spacing--every tile evenly spaced. Last, they did the grouting well so nothing budged! I do know that the guy who came recommended large tiles over small ones. Said it was easier to install and easier to maintain because there are less seams. Also, made them buy some extra tiles in case one got damaged somewhere down the road. Well, one did when my father dropped something real heavy on it and it was just a simple thing to have the tile replaced with one that matched perfectly because it came from the same lot... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: New journey-laying tile!!! Hey guys, My husband and I have decided to go with the tile in replacing our carpet in the living room, hallway and one bedroom, plus we figure we might as well replace the kitchen and master bath linoleum while we're at it as it needs replacing too. We're going to move on this in the next two weeks, since I'm having foot surgery on the 25th of April and would like it completed by then. There is some beautiful tile out there. What stinks is that the labor costs twice as much as the tile. So if you have a 10x10 room, and the tile is 2$ per square foot (on average), it's going to cost you $200 for just the tile. But the labor is another $3.25 (HD) or $3.50 (Lowe's) per square foot, so what we could do for $200 will end up costing us $525-550. That's a lot! And when you're talking about 800 square feet, it gets expensive. Plus, sealing the tile is extra (we will for sure do that ourselves), and tearing up the carpet is extra (we'll do that too), and floor prep is extra (probably do that too!!!). LOL. So we might possibly lay the tile ourselves with help from a few friends who have already done it. My husband is scared to do it-he doesn't want to mess our house up. I am more the do-it-yourself type, so I'm all for it. Anyone out there ever lay tile? Any thoughts or advice? :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: How's Bailey Other Stuff some of it OT?
Belinda, I understand where you're coming from--I just wanted to get it over too! Are you getting this 'laser' surgery or the regular hyst? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 4:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: How's Bailey Other Stuff some of it OT? Wendy, No I thought about it but I decided I just wanted to get it over with, I have researched all the different options and with the one other that only involves minor surgery by just removing the affected areas, if they don't get it all I may end up getting the hysterectomy anyway and I do not want to go through this twice. Also, have you had a second opinion on needing a hysterectomy -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT - Humiliating experience with my cat
Unfortuneatly I have experienced this. When my husband and I first moved into our house, my little furgirl was upset. She would pee on the bed while we were gone at work. Then, a couple of times, she peed on my head while I was sleeping. I finally figured out what was wrong- she felt she wasn't getting enough attention. Once I started making her my first priority when I came home, she finally stopped. Chris - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:54 AM Subject: OT - Humiliating experience with my cat Hi guys, Well, last night I had a humiliating experience with our geriatric kitty, Julie, who has hyperthyroidism and is on meds for that. After I got off work, I sat down on the couch to eat dinner around 9 pm. Julie jumped up on the couch, backed her little butt up to me, and peed all over my back, my hair, and the couch. I do believe she did it on purpose, because when I shot up off the couch, she ran over to her chicken broth bowl in the kitchen and started meowing. It hurt my feelings and made me angry that she would do this. I have never even heard of a cat doing anything like this. Has anyone heard of something like this, or had any experience with this type of situation? Any thoughts? Thanks, Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Pics of Maizee Grace
What a precious little girl! She is adorable! - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Pics of Maizee Grace Hi all I just made this so I could show off my beautiful girl,i cried a bit but I would love for everyone to see what a beauty she was. http://photos.yahoo.com/sherrydj88 Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?
This was posted on one of my Katrina boardsI went to the Website and they do say in their section on euthanization that for a small fee, they will NOT sell the animal for research! I know they are not the only animal control facility that does this but for folks in MI, a heads up! http://www.co.jackson.mi.us/Agencies/animalShel/Support.asp Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eric Rice; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kathryn Bloomfield Subject: [svlegal] Do We Have Katrinas Here I just received this email from Peggy, of my local rottie rescue group. I don't know if they took in any Katrina pets, but thought I would post just in case. Janis Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:27 AM Subject: Fw: Animals sold to research from Michigan shelter PLEASE SPEAK OUT ON THIS!! Crosspost, call and write the shelter and any city officials we can find to stop the selling of shelter animals for experiments... - Original Message - Subject: Purebred senior GSD and other animals sold to research/Michigan Owners must pay fee up front to insure their animal is euth'd. Otherwise, it is sold to reseach lab. I assume all strays end up being experimented on..Please crosspost everywhere. Thank you! If pets cannot be pulled, then maybe fees could be called in and paid to have them euth'd. very sad. http://www.petfinder.org/pet.cgi?action=""> Jackson Co. Michigan Animal Control 2004 Blackstone Jackson, Michigan, 49203 Phone: (517) 788-4464 Fax: (517) 780-4750 Office: Monday through Friday 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. No money transactions will be started after 4:45PM. Kennel: Monday through Friday 10 a.m. - 5 p.m. (from Co. govt. website) It has recently been publicized that Jackson County Animal Control Shelter has a high kill rate and that we sell animals to Class B research facilities. We wish to re-enforce to the public that we do everything we can to find homes for the animals that are in our facility. As of July 2003 there has been 933 dogs and 1,583 cats turned into the shelter. Of these animals 560 dogs and 146 cats have been picked up by an Animal Control Officer. Thankfully, 80 of these animals were claimed/returned to their owners, and the adoption rate, for animals available for adoption, was at 30% as of July 2003. This is an amazing figure for Jackson County Animal Control Shelter since in the previous year the adoption rate for the entire year was 31%. It costs about $16.36 dollars to euthanize and cremate a 50 pound dog, which is the size that is usually taken by research. It cost about $3.42 dollars to euthanize and cremate a 8 pound cat, which is the size that is usually taken by research. It is a fact of life, revenue must be generated in order to keep a facility operational. One way that Jackson County Animal Control Shelter is able to produce revenue is by selling certain animals to research. By selling select animals to research we have been able to generate over $4,000 in revenue over the 2002 - 2003 years. Where the cost of euthanization and cremation would have been over $6,000. We at the Jackson County Animal Control Shelter respect the thoughts and/or feelings of the public on this matter. Therefore we find it is important to stress that not all animals that come to the Jackson County Animal Control are sold to research. No animal is sold to research until all other avenues have been exhausted within the holding period to find these animals a home including adoption to the public, rescue groups, US Customs, Paw for a Cause and human societies. Additionally, if an animal is turned into the Jackson Animal Control Shelter the person dropping off the animal is given the option of paying a fee to ensure that the animal will not be sold to research. We hope you find our website useful. Jackson County Government strives to provide service to the people we are privileged to serve. Contact Jackson County Today With Your Comments or Questions! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group svlegal on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research?
Didnt mean to offend anybody in Michigantoo sadly, I know they are not uniquejust never quite seen it posted right out there like that! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Jackson Co Shelter, MI selling pets for research? oh, darling, we in michigan are VERY well aware of this -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Maizee Grace
Just the other day, I had a good missing-my-baby-cry too. Sylvester has been gone since last June and some days it still hits me really hard. I also lost a sweet baby about 4 years ago (exactly 4 years in just a few days) so this time of the year is still really hard for me. Sylvester had leukemia and was only 3 years old. My other cat, Smoky, had cancer and was 2 days shy of his 3rd birthday. In other words, yeah, I completely understand. Chris
RE: Need help and prayers for my sister's lost cat
-access cat are much different than those used to search for a missing indoor-only cat! When an outdoor-access cat disappears, it means that something has happened to the cat to interrupt its behavior of coming home. Cats are territorial and they do not just run away from home (like dogs do). Thus the tactics and techniques used to search for a missing cat should be different than those used to search for a missing dog. Lost cat posters will not always help find your cat if it has crawled under your neighbor's deck and is injured and silent. We believe that lost cat posters should be used, but that additional measures should be taken as well. If your outdoor cat is missing, consider that it may be: TRAPPED - Your cat could be up a tree, on a roof, under a house, inside a neighbor's basement or shed. This would mean that your cat would likely be within its normal territory, usually a 5-house radius of your home. It is imperative that you obtain permission from your neighbor to enter their yard so that you can look for your cat yourself. DO NOT rely on asking your neighbor to LOOK for your cat-their idea of looking will be to call if they see your cat sitting on their patio! INJURED - The behavior of an injured or sick (or displaced, panicked) cat is that they will hide in silence. We have called this The Silence Factor and this behavior KILLS CATS EVERY DAY! Hiding in silence is a protective mechanism that cats use to protect themselves from predators. What this means is that before you print up lost cat posters or drive down to your shelter to look for your lost cat, SEARCH under and in every conceivable hiding place on your own property and on your neighbor's property! It is quite possible that your cat is injured and in need of medical attention and you will need to use a flashlight and crawl under your house in order to save his life! DISPLACED - Cats that are chased from their territory either by dogs, people, or other cats who beat them up and cats that are panicked by fireworks will often become displaced into unfamiliar territory. Many of these cats, once their adrenaline levels have subsided, will work their way back home, often showing up the next day or a few days later. But many of these cats, especially those with skittish temperaments, will be so panicked by the experience that they will hide in fear and will be too afraid to return home. We've seen many cases where a cat was lost but was actually just three houses away, crouching and hiding in fear inside a neighbor's yard! These cats could have jumped a few fences or crossed one street and yet they behaved like they were feral cats, afraid of humans. Some meowed and let their owners pick them up-others darted and ran from their owners and had to be humanely trapped. Understand the critical importance of conducting an aggressive, physical search for your cat within your cat's immediate territory (neighbor's yards) in order to determine if your cat is still within the area. The failure to conduct this type of search is why so many cats are never found by their owners and end up being absorbed into the feral cat population. For more information on this behavior, read Kat Albrecht's book The Lost Pet Chronicles. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:36 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need help and prayers for my sister's lost cat Hi Everyone, My sister's (Connie), inside-only tuxedo cat went missing sometime last night. His name is Tux and he's short haired, and about 2yrs, with the sweetest little kitten face. They think he may have snuck out when a visitor left the screen door ajar, (the visitor left around 9pm). They didn't miss him until this morning because my nephew thought he was sleeping with my sister and my sister thought he was with my nephew. They are sick with worry. Not only has he never been outside before, but he's very skittish and they live in coyote territory. Being out at night is a death sentence for any small pets in their neighborhood. To make matters worse, he has short little legs and he can't even jump on a counter, let alone scale a wall. I've set a trap in her front yard and they've confined their other cat to the bedroom so they can leave the front door open. She's already put up fliers and tomorrow we'll be canvassing the neighborhood door to door with his picture and info. Please, please, please take a moment to send out positive thoughts to help him find his way home safely. This is doubly hard on Connie because her 17 year old dog just crossed about a month ago. I called several professional ACs today, but no one has called me back yet. If anyone on the AC group can help contact him we'd be so appreciative. I can only imagine how scared he is and how disoriented. I've posted a couple of pictures under Come home Tux, (I
?Crash's Landing Rescue and Placement?
Someone I know is considering placing 2 FIV kitties there. They are in Grand Rapids, MI. MaryChristine knew something about them.. I was wondering if anyone had ever dealt with them directly Thanks. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Stealth Volunteer in NY Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stealthvolunteers/
RE: ?Crash's Landing Rescue and Placement?
Thank you so much The person who is placing 2 cats there rescued a bunch of animal from New Orleans so these are Katrina kitties. Shes found owners of most of the pets reunited them. She could not find the owners of these two. They are both FIV+ and because of her combination of animals, she just cant keep them. She does want them to go to a good situation. Initially, she tried to find adoptive homes but you know how that goes. Shes in Wisconsin, I believe. Sherry, do you think I could put you two together? I know Sharon would feel so much better if she actually talked to someone who had been to Crashs! If you send me your e-mail off list, Ill give you Sharons, etc. My e-mail addy is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: ?Crash's Landing Rescue and Placement? Hi Chris,yes I volunteer at Crash's landing and all the people there are great and very loving.I have 2 fiv cats at my house and I just love them to pieces. the five cats go to Sids,which is where I volunteer all the time,it is my home away from home.Have they already spoke with someone from there?They would have the best care you could ask for. :) Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone I know is considering placing 2 FIV kitties there. They are in Grand Rapids, MI. MaryChristine knew something about them.. I was wondering if anyone had ever dealt with them directly Thanks. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Stealth Volunteer in NY Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stealthvolunteers/ Yahoo! Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations!
RE: OT Cat Peeing on Bed
Having discovered the shower curtain solution recently when my Tucson flipped out for a bit decided my bed looked like a good place to pee--who know why--I looked at my shower curtain covered bed and said to myself 'who lives better than us' Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karolyn Lount Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lynne; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT Cat Peeing on Bed I live on the edge of a park and last Aug. I rescued a 4 mo. old kitten. He had not been out there to long because he was in very good shape, I soon discovered why he had been dumped in the park. Several times each day he would pee on my bed. And YES he also used the litter box. I could not close the door to the bedroom as I have only one bedroom and three other cats I learned that a shower curtain was the right size to cover a queen size bed. First I put down a cloth shower curtain. He peed on that for a couple of days. About 5% went thru the curtain. Then I put a plastic liner under the cloth one and I have had a dry bed ever since.
RE: Stinky update
Also try something called Pill Pockets. Not all cats like it but if yours does, its wonderful. Its a goey treat with a pocket in it to put in pill. My Tucson wolfs it down without ever noticing the pill. My Romeo, however, just looks at me like Im crazylike hes not supposed to know theres a pill in there! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Stinky update Get a jar of Gerber's chicken baby food and dip the pill (cover it on all sides) in the baby food and pill her that way. It makes it go down easier and harder to spit out, and tastes good to them. It makes a huge difference. you can also use Nutrical or something like that, but then it sometimes sticks to your finger. Michelle In a message dated 3/10/2006 1:52:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She hasn't been having trouble with her bowles. They said that when she did have a bowel movement it looked oily. She does get to come home today. I am a little nervous because I know she will have medicine to take and she is terrible to get pills down her. I'm afraid I will hurt her stomach. We have to wrap her in a towel. I hold her and my husband pops the pill down her mouth. It is stressful for all of us. Cindy
RE: Stinky
I know it may sound silly and your vet has probably already checked, but is thyroid OK? Not unusual for cats to develop thyroid problems and one of the signs is steadily losing weight Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:16 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Stinky I adopted my brother's cat Stinky back in November 2000 after my brother was killed by a drunk driver. Stinky doesn't have feline leukemia but over the past year she has been losing weight. In January she broke her elbow and had to undergo surgery to put a pin in the bone. She did good after the surgery but kept on losing weight. I had blood work done and it came back normal. Today I took her to the vet because I could tell the pin had moved out of the bone somewhat. He was concerned over how much weight she had lost so did a test and he said she can't absorb fat when she eats. He is going to get a biopsy of the intestines and he thinks she may have cancer. I know nothing about this does anybody have any experience with this? He told me she might not make it through the surgery but if we don't get this biopsy she won't make it anyway. She eats all of the time but doesn't gain any weight. She vomits sometimes. Cindy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Stinky
Any chance of intestinal parasites? I know just a wild thought... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Stinky They did a thyroid test last week and it was normal. Now I wish it would have been that. At least that would be treatable. She acts like she is starving all of the time even after she has just eaten. Cindy --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it may sound silly and your vet has probably already checked, but is thyroid OK? Not unusual for cats to develop thyroid problems and one of the signs is steadily losing weight Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:16 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Stinky I adopted my brother's cat Stinky back in November 2000 after my brother was killed by a drunk driver. Stinky doesn't have feline leukemia but over the past year she has been losing weight. In January she broke her elbow and had to undergo surgery to put a pin in the bone. She did good after the surgery but kept on losing weight. I had blood work done and it came back normal. Today I took her to the vet because I could tell the pin had moved out of the bone somewhat. He was concerned over how much weight she had lost so did a test and he said she can't absorb fat when she eats. He is going to get a biopsy of the intestines and he thinks she may have cancer. I know nothing about this does anybody have any experience with this? He told me she might not make it through the surgery but if we don't get this biopsy she won't make it anyway. She eats all of the time but doesn't gain any weight. She vomits sometimes. Cindy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: CLS kids for Belinda
So sorry for your loss this weekend Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS kids for Belinda Belinda - unfortunately I have two more this morning. Hunny Bunny, a little house semi-feral, feleuk neg and Graybe, age 15, also negative, congestive heart failure. Hunny Bunny died 3/3 and Graybe 3/4. Thank you. Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Orange Julius (OJ) Jan 31, 2006 FeLV+ Buffy Feb. 19, 2006 FeLV+ Hi Belinda Thankyou for doing the list for our lost kitties..It does help to see them remembered... And we are all keeping our paws crossed here for Bailey.. May he make a recovery and have a good length of time left with you... Tad and Marie
RE: OT - my feleuk + Katrina kitty
Title: Message Its me... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:40 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: OT - my feleuk + Katrina kittyI can't remember who it was who is working to reunite animals and knew of some missing feleuk kitties from New Orleans - I have pictures to send to you of my feleuk+ calico, Katie Glenn, but can't find what I did with the email with contact info! Please contact me again! Susan
RE: AOL belittles Internet advocates
I vote yes for group vote!!! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: AOL belittles Internet advocates Since we are a democratic group, I think we need people to generally agree. And we probably need the list owner, James, to ok it. Then I think one of us just does it, via the links in the first alert I forwarded. I would be willing to do it on behalf of the group, but I need the group and James to approve it first. So I guess if anyone thinks it is a good or bad idea, please say so. Michelle In a message dated 3/2/2006 8:48:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes I think that would be a good idea, how do we do that?
RE: Thank You All!!!!!
You know, I last talked to your mom during the summer and I remember thinking that despite her serious medical problems, she was the one of the most upbeat, full of life persons I'd ever 'met'. It was a real priviledge to have known her. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda K. Smith Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Thank You All! Dearest All, You have all had such wonderful things to say about my mom, THANK YOU!!! She loved all of you. She used to talk about all of you at different times. When I first moved back home in 2000, I would come downstairs and find her sitting here crying. I would be worried and ask her what was wrong and she would say We lost another of our beloved kitty babies. She loved everyone of your babies as though they were her own. This battle with her health started at the end of July. She had had a cold. In August she went into Atrial Fibrillation and she had to be shocked back into rhythm. She had about a week of feeling better and then started feeling bad again. She went in and out of rhythm until we went again between Christmas and New Years to have her shocked again. We thought so many things, too much immune suppressant drugs making her sick, new drugs they gave her she was allergic too, I racked my brain trying to figure it out. She was very sick, throwing up, lost 22lbs, nothing tasted right or very good at all...I could go on and on. Little did we know until Saturday the 25th of February that mother had been suffering with the hideous melanoma brain cancer disease. She never knew, thankfully and she went very fast, but I was able to tell her and she acknowledged, that I loved her, dad loved her, and I would take care of all her babies and daddy. During this time we spent practically every minute together. I cooked, cleaned, served, her and tried to absolutely everything I could to make her day better and happy. We had a connection unlike most have ever seen or experienced. I lived and breathed for her. We talked about everything in the world and all aspects of what she would want in case of her death. I feel like part of me is missing, but I smile knowing she now is no longer miserable. My beautiful mother gave me so much! My father and I have so many good memories, we are cherishing them all. If at anytime you have questions that I can help you with about the feline leukemia cats, I will try, but I am not my mom, though she taught me a lot. I believe, I will be handling the fund, so if anyone wants to send something as a memorial for my mom it will be used for the feline leukemia fund as she would have wanted. I would love any of you that have the poems she wrote for your pets to email them at anytime. I will post the one she wrote for me when I had my 16th birthday at a future date. Thank you to all of you for loving my mom and sharing yourselves and your babies with her, Love Janine -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself. - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/268 - Release Date: 2/23/2006
RE: Brenda Smith
Oh my I talked to Brenda last year when I was trying so hard to find a home for my Big Boy. We kind of decided to wait until the weather got better but you know how it goes--he got settled in and here he stayed. Brenda was just so kind and helpful. She had a great sense of humor and such an easy going way about her. She seemed to live every day to its fullest and absolutely adored her family, human and animal! I know that they will all miss her terribly. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:07 PM To: FeLV Talk List [New] Subject: Brenda Smith Hi All, It is with deep sadness I must let you all know that Brenda Smith passed away this Monday. Brenda didn't post often so many of you may not be familar with her. She was a wonderful, loving member of this group for many, many years and recently adopted two positives Lovey and Merry in March of 2005. She was also in charge of the list emergency fund and the FeLV T-Shirts that the group sold, in fact she contracted the artist and company that designed and printed them. I've known Brenda for many years and am going to miss her immensly, her passing is a huge loss for the group. For those of you who did know her and would like to offer condolences to her family, you can email her address [EMAIL PROTECTED] and her daughter will receive them. This is a very sad week and heaven most definately has a very special angel today. I know she was greeted by many, many pets including her precious Suzy Q whose loss she never recovered from. Brenda enjoy all your babies and we'll all see you soon enough ... -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Angel Paassht
I' so very sorry for your loss Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Becca DuBose Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Angel Paassht She had fluid on her lungs and was already in respiratory distress. The vet didn't think she would last another night. We had to let her go. Becca
RE: Belinda and Bailey
Belinda, If nothing else, Bailey sure has spunk! He's quite a little fighter... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Belinda and Bailey Hi Nina, Bailey is hanging in there, I took him to emergency Sunday night he was breathing hard and fast, his nostrils were flaring and it scared me. When we finally saw the vet he was a bit better, and he had a fever of 104.2. She listened to his lungs and said he was getting air at a bit of a diminished rate, she said his gums are nice and pink, he was slightly dehydrated but she didn't think he was in crisis and said she could do an xray to check for fluid or I could wait and take him to my regular vet in the morning. Since he was better already I decided to see my regular vet in the morning, the ER vet gave me baytril for the fever, she wanted to put him on clavamox, but I didn't want to chance diarrhea again after our 2 week ordeal earlier so I asked if we could go with something else and she choose baytril. The next morning his fever was down to 103.4, so heading in the right direction, and we did more xrays which showed nothing new, no fluid or discernable tumors. I'm giving him fluids daily now instead of every other day. He is gaining a tiny bit of weight so that is good, I feed him every 4 hours (not sure if you know he has a feeding tube). His muscle wasting is not getting any worse, I can't say if it is getting better but it isn't getting worse. In the last couple of days he has been moving around a bit more, still sleeps alot but that from what I understand is part of this syndrome (official diagnosis is myeloid dysplastic). So I guess we are hanging in there. We have a vet appointment tomorrow to check his temp again, and in two weeks to check bloodwork again. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Ginger is gone
Im so sorry for your loss Your note is really a tribute to the love and warmth that I know Ginger felt from you during these years Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:15 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Ginger is gone
RE: CLS for Buffy
Tad, so sorry to hear about Buffy. I keep thinking aboutall those poor little ones from Angel Wings and how so very lucky the 6 who found their way to your home were... Winky, Callie, OJ and now Buffy, had, in the last months of their short lives, the love and care that they so deserved. Just giving them happiness for even a short time is a tribute to you and Marie. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:42 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: CLS for Buffy Sadly my Buffy cat passed away early Sunday morning... She is the 4th of the Angel Wings 6 FeLV+ to go way too soon... She was always much closer to Marie than she was to me... I guess she had not been treated well by men before coming to us.. She had always been the sickly one, not very strong and had more times that we worried about her than the others but with meds she had always bounced back but this last time it was not meant to be... She went down right after we lost Callie and then after we lost OJ just a couple weeks ago she started sleeping on my pillow which was something new and that's where she was Sunday morning... Usually when she would stop eating we would syringe a couple CC's and then she would eat the rest on her own but her last feeding Saturday night she was very uncomfortable swallowing and we sort of knew her time was near We miss our sweet Buffy cat but we know that she is waiting for us at The Rainbow Bridge with Winky and Callie and OJ Sleep Well Sweet Buffy Tad and Marie
RE: And now the good news
Tad, You have made my day! Jen is going to be so happy to hear how well Switters is doing. I talked to her the day after Switters left and she was still crying. She felt so bad because the van came at exactly the same time as the moving van and she had tried so hard to get some quiet time with Switters before he left! She will be real happy to hear how well he's getting along with the other little ones. She said he was just so friendly and tried to make friends with her old cats but they would have none of it and were sort of mean to him! I know you'll hear from her as she gets settled in As for his New Orleans life, Jen found him outside in the rain--totally emaciated and shivering. He was so skinny she thought he was only a few weeks old and only when he plumped up a little did she and the vet realized that he was a little older than they thought. She had him neutered, microchipped and he's had his first shot. I agree with you about his spunk--any little one that could survive all of that has some good genes in there!!! And once again and again and again, thanks to you and Marie for giving this little guy such a wonderful home! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: And now the good news Switters is here !!! Switters is the FeLV+ kitty from New Orleans that was looking for a home He got to ride all the way to Vermont in a van that was also bringing several other animals up this way It took several days.. a day longer because the Blizzard of 2006 got in-between here and there...30 inches in NYC and across Penn.. Only a 1/2 inch up here He didn't seem particularly stressed but wanted out of his carrier... He kept reaching through the bars and tugging on my sleeve... When we got home I set him on the bed where my cats came by to sniff and nobody objected so I let him out... He hissed a few times when others got too close but that was it... Jett took over his blanky bed that came with him but he has tried out all their sleeping places as well and he jumps down and claims his blanky when Jett gets off... I had forgotten what its like to get a young cat in such good condition.. All my cat have been homeless short timers for the last 3 years... Jen did all the work this time...He must have been just a baby when the hurricane hit and I understand he was still in the flooded part when they rescued him a long time after the storm so I am sure he wasn't the beautiful cat that he is now It would be interesting to hear more of the details of his New Orleans experience... Don't you wish he could tell his story He is loved here already and he along with all the rest of my FeLV+ are a little on the chubby side... I am thinking that is a good sign as all the ones I have lost have not put on weight inspite of a good appetite... I guess that's a sign that there is a cancer in there some where and wouldn't it be nice if the ones I have left now will get a good long life.. Keep the paws crossed... Tad and Marie
RE: 2 more babies to add to the CLS
So sorry for your lossbad news seems to come in clumpshoping that good things come your way soon. And good for youfor taking care of some of these older fellowstoo many times, theyre just lost cause nobody wants to give them half a chance. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: 2 more babies to add to the CLS Well, I guess sometimeswhen it rains it pours. Early Saturday morning I lost two more of my fosters, both negative. Red Man was an older orange tabby who had chronic sinusitis and asthma. He got a pretty bad URI and it went into pneumonia. Red Man was the sweetest old fella - sometimes he'd wake me up in the middle of the night pawing at my face wanting to be petted. Mr. Kitty was also an older fella - his previous owner of over 10 years got married and the new wife didn't like Mr. Kitty. They stuck him in a cage at vet clinic while trying to find a new home and he was so traumatized that the vet said he was feral and needed to be euthanized. Of course he wasn't the least bit feral, just scared. He was never a cuddly boy altho he wanted to be in the same room with me but in the last few weeks he started cuddling up with me at night as close as he could get and following me everywhere I went. He'd been fighting renal failure for some time. My house and my heart are even emptier than they were last week.
RE: 2 more babies to add to the CLS
Youre right about the old guys! Still working on reuniting Katrina pets with owners and it just makes my day when I can find the owner of an old one! There are so many and its doubly hard for them to go thru so many changes! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: 2 more babies to add to the CLS Thanks, Chris. And I love the old kitties, even though I know I may not have them very long. There is just such a sweetness about them - it is hard to describe, but it just touches my heart. I have two super-elderly kitties right now, both from the same kill shelter - Micah and Mem'ry. Both charcoal gray and both kinda rickety when they walk. What a joy they are! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So sorry for your lossbad news seems to come in clumpshoping that good things come your way soon. And good for youfor taking care of some of these older fellowstoo many times, theyre just lost cause nobody wants to give them half a chance. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: 2 more babies to add to the CLS Well, I guess sometimeswhen it rains it pours. Early Saturday morning I lost two more of my fosters, both negative. Red Man was an older orange tabby who had chronic sinusitis and asthma. He got a pretty bad URI and it went into pneumonia. Red Man was the sweetest old fella - sometimes he'd wake me up in the middle of the night pawing at my face wanting to be petted. Mr. Kitty was also an older fella - his previous owner of over 10 years got married and the new wife didn't like Mr. Kitty. They stuck him in a cage at vet clinic while trying to find a new home and he was so traumatized that the vet said he was feral and needed to be euthanized. Of course he wasn't the least bit feral, just scared. He was never a cuddly boy altho he wanted to be in the same room with me but in the last few weeks he started cuddling up with me at night as close as he could get and following me everywhere I went. He'd been fighting renal failure for some time. My house and my heart are even emptier than they were last week.
RE: 2 more babies to add to the CLS
How great that you took this little one in! Im afraid that most FELV+ Katrina kitties did not meet such a wonderful fate! I know there are a number of people who posted lost reports on FELV+ cats and if you e-mail privately, we can see if maybe this litte one could be one of these ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). You can imagine that the owners of these cats are really pretty frantic knowing the fate that awaited most! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: 2 more babies to add to the CLS Thank you for continuing to work on that. I have a feline leukemia positive Katrina kitty now - our Director just brought her back last month. Some insurance adjustors had been feeding her - she kept going back to what must have been her home ( I need to see if our Dir. got the address). She is incredibly sweet and calm and loving. We've had a battle with diarrhea - but lord knows what she had to eat or drink. Once she is 100% well I will bring her to work with me (AR School for the Blind Library) and she will be a wonderful Library Cat (will come home at night, tho) and will get as much attention and loving as any kitty could ever want. I've started her on interferon. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Youre right about the old guys! Still working on reuniting Katrina pets with owners and it just makes my day when I can find the owner of an old one! There are so many and its doubly hard for them to go thru so many changes! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: 2 more babies to add to the CLS Thanks, Chris. And I love the old kitties, even though I know I may not have them very long. There is just such a sweetness about them - it is hard to describe, but it just touches my heart. I have two super-elderly kitties right now, both from the same kill shelter - Micah and Mem'ry. Both charcoal gray and both kinda rickety when they walk. What a joy they are! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So sorry for your lossbad news seems to come in clumpshoping that good things come your way soon. And good for youfor taking care of some of these older fellowstoo many times, theyre just lost cause nobody wants to give them half a chance. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: 2 more babies to add to the CLS Well, I guess sometimeswhen it rains it pours. Early Saturday morning I lost two more of my fosters, both negative. Red Man was an older orange tabby who had chronic sinusitis and asthma. He got a pretty bad URI and it went into pneumonia. Red Man was the sweetest old fella - sometimes he'd wake me up in the middle of the night pawing at my face wanting to be petted. Mr. Kitty was also an older fella - his previous owner of over 10 years got married and the new wife didn't like Mr. Kitty. They stuck him in a cage at vet clinic while trying to find a new home and he was so traumatized that the vet said he was feral and needed to be euthanized. Of course he wasn't the least bit feral, just scared. He was never a cuddly boy altho he wanted to be in the same room with me but in the last few weeks he started cuddling up with me at night as close as he could get and following me everywhere I went. He'd been fighting renal failure for some time. My house and my heart are even emptier than they were last week.
RE: Please add to the CLS -Chris
Ritas a super person and she I have racked our brains to find the owners of a beautiful, clearly owned cat that she got from K. rescues! She also took in a 17 year old and kept him as a foster when we found his owners who just could not take him back right away. She kept in touch with them constantly, had them talk to him on the phone, sent pictures, etc. Unfortunately, Mr. Gray passed away and Rita was just great in helping the owners deal with their grief. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Please add to the CLS -Chris YES! I had some correspondence with her when it looked like our rescue group was going to Mississippi and then back straight north thru Memphis. She'd said she could take a few Sr. kitties. As it turned out the kitties that we were heading down to rescue were gotten out of MS. earlier (thank goodness) than we could get there - by a group from somewhere farther east, so we didn't make the trip. I'd love to go to her shelter and just hold and pet. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know in my travels on the Katrina pets, I met a wonderful person in TN who runs a very small home based shelter for only senior kitties. The two of you should talk as she goes through the same things you do.. Ever heard of PurreverRanch? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Please add to the CLS Thank you. I am always going to have a high death rate, I guess, because I take lots of elderly kitties and feleuks, including kittens born with it. This was a little much, tho. Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How sad. Big hugs to you. That's a lot to deal with -- one right after the other. Goodnight, sweet babies... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Susan Loesch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: Please add to the CLS I sadly have 3 babies to add - all 3 were about 2-2 1/2 years old. My little Jack died on Jan. 21. He was the sweetest little orange tabby boy, no bigger than a 6 month old kitten. During his last weeks he was always cold so he always beat me to bed at night and was waiting under the covers for me. Our vet suspects that he had feleuk in his bone marrow but we didn't test him - and on the snap tests he repeatedly tested negative. On Feb. 8th I lost Cheyenne. She was a little Siamese baby - small but not as small as Jack. She was definitely feleuk positive. She came to me at 4 months from a Tx kill shelter -- in fact Gloria and I read about her on this list - and Gloria went to Tx to pick her up along with a great big ol' dlh orange tabby boy, Charlie, who is FIV+ -- and thriving. For the first few weeks I had to make Cheyenne let me hold her - and then one day in my arms she just sighed this big sigh and relaxed and became my sweet outgoing little girl. Then, on Feb 9, Sweet Willie Brown died. He was a tiny tabby when he came to our rescue group - spent his whole kittenhood with one sickness or another and the for the last year and a half was so thin that he looked to be at death's door. He also repeatedly tested negative and our vet suspects feleuk in the marrow. Just a few months ago extensive bloodwork showed nothing but a little anemia and a slightly elevated white count. He finally began to put on weight and I took him to our Board meeting on the 20th to show off how chubby he was. He has always been a favorite of everyone in our rescue group- and he spent the evening sitting on one shoulder and then another. Shoulders were his thing. I miss that out of nowhere feather touch as he landed on my shoulder - have shoulder will pounce. There are now 3 more angels in the heavens and I know they are playing together, all healthy, at the Rainbow Bridge.
RE: Chris and Katrina Rescue-OT
Well our group of volunteers sort of stopped really counting after about 700. We're sort of a fast and furious mode as time marches on! HSUS says they reunited a couple of hundred but most of those were owners who went to the big receiving center at Lamar-Dixon. Basically, there has never been any organized effort to find the owners. Most reunions have been done either by owners who were internet savy, had the time, and the resources to look on the internet. Other reunions were mostly done by volunteers like myself either on their own or as part of several internet groups that sprung up There never has been any serious official effort to reunite pets. Very conservative estimates are that anywhere from 12,00-15,000 pets were rescued. There are approx 15,000 lost reports on pets from the Gulf Coast. The math is atrocious and the stories of how people came to be separated from their pets tears your heart out! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Chris and Katrina Rescue-OT Hey Chris, I am just curious as to how many pets and guardians you have reunited from the Hurricane Katrina disaster? What a wonderful thing to do! Thanks, Wendy P.S. I hope it's a LOT!!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Chris and Katrina Rescue-OT
Its not that many when you think about the thousands and thousands of people who are searching for the pets they were sometimes ordered at gunpoint to leave behind! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Chris and Katrina Rescue-OT Wow! 700 is A LOT. More than I would have imagined. Bless you for what you are doing Chris. --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well our group of volunteers sort of stopped really counting after about 700. We're sort of a fast and furious mode as time marches on! HSUS says they reunited a couple of hundred but most of those were owners who went to the big receiving center at Lamar-Dixon. Basically, there has never been any organized effort to find the owners. Most reunions have been done either by owners who were internet savy, had the time, and the resources to look on the internet. Other reunions were mostly done by volunteers like myself either on their own or as part of several internet groups that sprung up There never has been any serious official effort to reunite pets. Very conservative estimates are that anywhere from 12,00-15,000 pets were rescued. There are approx 15,000 lost reports on pets from the Gulf Coast. The math is atrocious and the stories of how people came to be separated from their pets tears your heart out! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Chris and Katrina Rescue-OT Hey Chris, I am just curious as to how many pets and guardians you have reunited from the Hurricane Katrina disaster? What a wonderful thing to do! Thanks, Wendy P.S. I hope it's a LOT!!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Do Cats Go to Heaven?
Title: Message I'm still laughing! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:42 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Do Cats Go to Heaven? Dear Everybody, This is what awaits our kitties when they go to heaven (courtesy of Beliefnet): Do Cats Go to Heaven?A cat dies and goes to Heaven. God meets him at the gate and says, "You have been a good cat all of these years. Anything you desire is yours, all you have to do is ask." The cats says, "Well, I lived all my life with a poor family on a farm and had to sleep on hardwood floors."God says, "Say no more." And instantly, a fluffy pillow appears. A few days later, 6 mice are killed in a tragic accident and they go to Heaven. God meets them at the gate with the same offer that He made the cat. The mice said, "All our lives we've had to run. Cats, dogs and even women with brooms have chased us. If we could only have a pair of roller skates, we wouldn't have to run anymore."God says, "Say no more." And instantly, each mouse is fitted with a beautiful pair of tiny roller skates.About a week later, God decides to check and see how the cat is doing. The cat is sound asleep on his new pillow. God gently wakes him and asks, "How are you doing? Are you happy here?" The cat yawns and stretches and says, "Oh, I've never been happier in my life. And those Meals on Wheels you've been sending over are the best!" Leah Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FeLV + test results
I think that this is only for FIV vaccine, not FELV... but I may be wrong on that Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karolyn Lount Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lynne Subject: FeLV + test results I learned something the other day I did not know. If a cat is vaccinated against getting FeLV all its life it will test positive. So it could very well be that a rescue cat that tests positive is not. This is what my new vet told me. I feel this all the more reason not to put down those that test positive.
Info on lymphoma in dogs...
I know that you folks have an awful lot of info on cats who develop lymphoma. Have a friend whose dog was just diagnosed and is starting chemo. Does anyone have suggestions on groups, sites, etc. she might go to for info on dogs with lymphoma? She is really worried and anxious to get as much info as she can in order to make informed decisions. Thanks. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: felv kitty in need
Isnt there a place called the best little cathouse in pa==takes felv+ Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Megan M Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: felv kitty in need I am trying to help an felv positive kitty. someone found her outside and took her in but she tested positive and now the woman won't keep her b/c she has other negative cats. the cat is probably about 3 years old the vet thinks. she is very pretty and now living in the woman's laundry room. kitty's name is pepper and she is now in the easton, pa area. if anyone is willing to take pepper in please let meknow. she is symptom-free.
RE: Info on lymphoma in dogs...
Many thanks... thinking of you and Bailey Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:55 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Info on lymphoma in dogs... Chris, I know nothing about the group because I am a feline mama only but I found this doing a Yahoo groups search: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LymphomaHeartDogs/ It is for people with dogs who have lymphoma. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Smokey
My Tucson has had two episodes of low white blood count. Vet gave her a series of immuno-regulin shots; brought it back up. Just a thought... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Smokey The bloodwork showed he was anemic, red and white blood cell count low. The white blood cell count was at the border of low normal. He had been on Baytril for awhile and the vet said she would of thought it would not have been at that level after being on antibiotics. His platelets were low too. I just talked to the vet and he didn't seem very hopeful for Smokey. I will take him back to vet today to see if his temp. has spiked again. After the vet gets his temp. down he goes about 3 or 4 days and it spikes again. I know when I go down there if he has a fever the vet will recomend euthanasia. What should I do? Thank you, Cindy --- Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does your vet say that there's an infection somewhere? Does the bloodwork indicate it? I know that there have been a few people on-list who have had FeLV+ kitties with unexplained/idiopathic fevers. How very frustrating for you and your family! Am sending strength and calm for all of you. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Smokey
He gave her a series of shots. She had no side effects and I think the shots were once a week or once every other week--can't remember right now. As far as other things, well she's had a couple of UTI problems... Its tough finding a good vet. My first vet, who is the one who picked up on FELV status, readily admitted to me that he had almost no experience but was willing to work with a NYC med center. That would have been a little tough in terms of transport back and forth and I found a vet who was closer to me who does treat FELV+ cats. He never batted an eyelash about treating Tucson and at least had some experience. I do not have her or Big Boy (my other FELV) on Interferon but that was more of a judgment call on my part based on their personalities and overall situation. One of the ideas for finding more helpful vet is to try to contact local rescue groups, particularly anyone who takes FELV+. Also, when I was changing, I called a number of them to find somebody who was currently treating FELV cats... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Smokey Did your vet give your Tucson the immuno-regulin in a shot or through an IV? Did she have to stay at the vet or get to go home? I might need to go to another vet because my conversation today the vet seemed like we had done all we could do for Smokey. The fever is the big thing with him. He keeps getting a fever every 3 or 4 days. I had talked to another vet when I first found out Smokey was + because one of the vets where I take my pets gave me the option of finding Smokey another home or euthanasia. The other vet I spoke to told me not to let them put me in a corner about having Smokey euthanized. He said they have a few patients that are +. I don't want to see Smokey suffer but I don't know if he is right now. Cindy --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Tucson has had two episodes of low white blood count. Vet gave her a series of immuno-regulin shots; brought it back up. Just a thought... Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:19 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Smokey The bloodwork showed he was anemic, red and white blood cell count low. The white blood cell count was at the border of low normal. He had been on Baytril for awhile and the vet said she would of thought it would not have been at that level after being on antibiotics. His platelets were low too. I just talked to the vet and he didn't seem very hopeful for Smokey. I will take him back to vet today to see if his temp. has spiked again. After the vet gets his temp. down he goes about 3 or 4 days and it spikes again. I know when I go down there if he has a fever the vet will recomend euthanasia. What should I do? Thank you, Cindy --- Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does your vet say that there's an infection somewhere? Does the bloodwork indicate it? I know that there have been a few people on-list who have had FeLV+ kitties with unexplained/idiopathic fevers. How very frustrating for you and your family! Am sending strength and calm for all of you. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Rudy - Gone
So sorry for your lossRudy does indeed sound like a very special cat! And sounds like you gave her a wonderful 13 years! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Rudy - Gone My baby Rudy passed today at 4: PM. My husband and I stayed with her all day she slept between us, so I know she was where she wanted to be. She passed so peacefully looking in my eyes. I have lost a lot of kitties in my life but never one to go so quickly and easily. A few short breaths, no cries and she was gone. Rudy came into my home 13 years ago and she has been the boss ever since. I was at my front door one cold night calling my other kitties home and this pretty little girl that I had never seen before ran in my door straight to my wash room jumped on my hot water heater and stayed there for 3 days. I loved her from the first minute I saw her. I knew she was special and meant just for me. No sharing this one with my hubby. My other kitties were jealous but soon learned she was here to stay. Rudy was what I called my bold protector. She was not afraid of any cat or dog. If she heard me scolding another cat she would run in and slap the kitty. My 3 large dogs were also afraid of her. If one would come running at me to fast she would jump in front of me to protect me and quickly turn them around. She could be in another room and if I stubbed my toe and cried out she would come flying in to see if someone was messing with her Mama. She was diagnosed with felv when she was spayed. I guess she was less than one year old. She was always healthy except she lost all her teeth but one early on so her tongue was always falling out her mouth. She was hard to please with food would only eat fancy feast and not much of that. Would beg for milk and throw it right up if I gave in and gave it to her. I still have know good answers as to why kidney failure. The Vet says it happens in older cats. She was not anemic, but she was running a low temp. I saw know signs of sickness till Sunday morning when she started to stumble when she stood up. Sorry to go on so long but I needed to say how much I'll miss her sleeping in my arms, loving me completely and unselfishly. Sheila
RE: Buster update
So sorry to hear about Buster when my Tucson had very low WBC, vet gave her a series of immuno-regulin shots. WBC came back up pretty quick. Had to do it twice and both times it worked Both times I knew something was up because she didnt eatand eating is her very favorite thing to do! I got her to eat a little something by giving her anything she would swallowham, tuna water, cottage cheese, a little milk not things I would normally rely on as nourishment but at that point I just wanted to get something in her. Luckily, her lack of appetite only lasted a few days so it was not a major problem.. Didnt know whether you had considered this Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Roach Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 5:12 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Buster update Buster isn't doing well at all today...I did get him to eat a little on his own Fri..and drink some water..He went to the box a couple of times, but is very wobbly.. I got his meds down him early this morning, but now he won't eat at all...I tried to feed him some of the same thing I did yesterday and he licked the juice then almost immediately threw up...then I tried a/d, but he wouldn't touch it...I know I have to get something in him, but he is very hard to deal with like that..It really stresses him out..I did give him some pepcid and appetite stimulant transdermal. I guess Bandy knows he isn't feeling well because I have never seen Bandy clean him and now I have seen this twice today...Bandy is staying right with him.. Any suggestions on what I should do since he threw up, I don't know what to do..I did get a little water in him but not much...I didn't know if I should try to force feed him or not since he threw up.. I will post his blood work later...I do know that his WBC is very low and so is the PCV. All liver tests are elevated and all others are normal.. Keep him in your prayers.. Kerry, Bandy and Buster Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!
RE: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos
Well-Tucson came out of that wall; ate and hasnt stopped eating since! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos What an amazing story!! Took 5 more days and many holes punched and threats to management to call media but lo behold little Tucson her brother came out of the wall. They were about 6 weeks old and had fallen into an ac duct. Mom who was an incredible cat must have been dropping food down there while caring for her other kittens on the roofall this in 100 degree weather! -- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos
Well theres no doubt Ive been meownipulated from the start. How I got hermy parents were visiting my brother in Tucson rented an apt. First night they were there, a female cat on the roof howled all night. For 3 nights this went on until my mother heard very squeaky kinds of meowing inside the wall. Took 5 more days and many holes punched and threats to management to call media but lo behold little Tucson her brother came out of the wall. They were about 6 weeks old and had fallen into an ac duct. Mom who was an incredible cat must have been dropping food down there while caring for her other kittens on the roofall this in 100 degree weather! Most amazing thing, though, is that as soon as we got both kitties out, she disappeared. I walked around the complex for days holding Tucson, went around at night looking for her and never could find her or the other kittens. Its as if she knew they were safe and she could now move on I always felt bad that I couldnt find her or the other kitties but somehow, I know she had some peace that two of her little ones were going to be OK. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos Chris, I know I'd fall for her in a second! I have such a soft spot for determined calicos. My girl Ursula has taught me the meaning of unconditional love. Mine for her, not the other way around! Nina Terri Brown wrote: Chris, you've been meownipulated! LOL =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos Big, fat, tempermental, insanely jealous not the smartest kid on the block! Thats my Tucson. Ive read that calicos are determined and she is that! Only thing shes had problem with is low wbc and twice shes had immuno-regulin and it bounced back up. I know that when she doesnt wolf down anything you put in front of her, shes really not feeling well. But basically shes a big mush who just looks pitiful when she doesnt feel well and all she has to do is look at me with those big adoring eyes and Im putty in her hands!
RE: Bandy's other buddy - Buster Felv+
I know it must be scary, but at 14 it might just be some of those aches and pains that we all feel I would think that the fact he is eating and drinking well is a positive sign. Might be thyroid (since weve been talking about that!) As for how he got FELVwell, my Tucson tested neg at about 6-8 weeks and 5 years later tested pos. Never been outside since I got her; never lived with FELV cat; my other 3 (including 2 who came after her as kittens) all test neg. The two vets I went to both told me she likely had it since birth (she was born to a stray outside). Periodically, she looks a little peaked but still manages to stay around 18 lbstrying to get her to lose some weight but its tough! All but eliminated dry foood but when all you do is eat and sleep.. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Roach Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:11 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Bandy's other buddy - Buster Felv+ Hi everyone, Bandy's other buddy--- Buster was diag. with Felv last summer when I had them all checked...I have had him since birth and he will be 14 on March 30. He hasn't shown any symptoms at all. This last week he seems to be having some problems with his back legs...and just notacting up to par...So I am taking him for blood work on Thurs...I am worried that it could be lymphoma, kidneys or anemia... He has lost a little weight lately, too...He still eats good and drinks good...No other signs except I am concerned because he doesn't have the bright pink nose or gums that he should...I also have him on the supplements along with Bandy...I don't know how he got the Felv because he was vaccinated yrs ago before Bandy came to us..He also has always lived in the house since about the age of 2.. Anyway, just wanted you to know..and we will let you know how things turn out on Thurs...Keep Buster in your prayers that his blood work is good.. Head butts to all, Kerry, Bandy, Buster and Lil Rascal Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
RE: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos
Big, fat, tempermental, insanely jealous not the smartest kid on the block! Thats my Tucson. Ive read that calicos are determined and she is that! Only thing shes had problem with is low wbc and twice shes had immuno-regulin and it bounced back up. I know that when she doesnt wolf down anything you put in front of her, shes really not feeling well. But basically shes a big mush who just looks pitiful when she doesnt feel well and all she has to do is look at me with those big adoring eyes and Im putty in her hands! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Chris' Tucson - testing neg than pos Chris, About your Tucson... I had heard that if the felv is not active, not replicating, (or something to that effect), when testing is done, then it won't necessarily show. Maybe that's what happened when she was tested as a kitten. It's esp scary to me since I've only had Timmy tested once, (he the only neg out of a litter of pos). I don't really care, it doesn't really matter. I think of him as neg and treat him as if he's pos. 18 lbs, that's a big kitty! I guess it just comes from having so many animals fall ill and lose weight, but I can't imagine putting anyone on a diet! I know it's not good for them to be obese though. I've just sadly, never had a pos that was overweight. Whatever the scale says, here's to many, many more years of continued health! You're doing something right, keep it up! Nina Chris wrote: I know it must be scary, but at 14 it might just be some of those aches and pains that we all feel I would think that the fact he is eating and drinking well is a positive sign. Might be thyroid (since weve been talking about that!) As for how he got FELVwell, my Tucson tested neg at about 6-8 weeks and 5 years later tested pos. Never been outside since I got her; never lived with FELV cat; my other 3 (including 2 who came after her as kittens) all test neg. The two vets I went to both told me she likely had it since birth (she was born to a stray outside). Periodically, she looks a little peaked but still manages to stay around 18 lbstrying to get her to lose some weight but its tough! All but eliminated dry foood but when all you do is eat and sleep..
RE: TAD TO THE RESCUE: One last URGENT plea for help...
Many thanks.will let you know if we need help with transportation Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: TAD TO THE RESCUE: One last URGENT plea for help... yay, for switters! chris, if you can't find help with delta friends, contact me off-list--i know of someone who's got a batch of American Airlines stewards who have offered to help with katrina critters. On 2/6/06, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah for TAD He and Jen talked today and little Switters is moving to New England!!! We just need to work out transp. Jen has someone who works in Delta is going to see if she can get a steward to take little Switters. If not, I may have a contact with a stewards group who had offered to take small pets in Cabin with them Just little details, how to get from New Orleans to Vermont . What a tale little Switters will have for his new brothers and sisters!!! and then the water came, and then I swam, and then I didn't have any food, and then I went inside to this house, and then I went on this BIG bird, and now I'm here! TADTHANK YOU SO VERY VERY MUCH==YOU ARE A TRUE HERO! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: One last URGENT plea for help... Oh Tadyou are a total hero! I hope transportation can be worked out for little Switters. It's so great that you've given him the chance of a forever home. Thank you! Kerry - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:06 AM Subject: Re: One last URGENT plea for help... Chris I could take him but I am way up here in Vermont... Is there any way you could get him as far as Albany or NYC or New England area I know there were several rescue people from Boston Mass. area that have been back and forth and brought some back with them Don't know if there is any chance of hooking up with them Tad Chris wrote: I posted before about Switters the Katrina kitten found on the street by a New Orleans resident after the hurricane. I 'met' Jean through group I'm in working to reunite Katrina pets with their owner. She's nursed him back to health, domesticated him, chipped him, neutered him and generally brought him back to health! He is FELV+. She has to move out of state next week and cannot take him with her. She has contacted every rescue group and feline organization she could find. She has asked her friends and neighbors but part of the problem is that those handful of people who have returned to New Orleans are all taking care of other pets found in the street! ALL shelters in the Gulf Coast areas are full; almost none are no-kill and almost all would euthanize Switters because of his FELV. Jean, his caretaker, found a place in Ashville that will take her and her three cats but landlord would not even consider a fourth catgo figure. Her cats hate Switters and she really can't just keep them separate. Someone told Jean, Switters' caretaker, about a place called animal rescue in Denver but she knows nothing about it nor can she afford to fly Switters up there. Jean has talked to Marley's fund and they are full but put him on a waiting list. Jean is moving to Ashville. Is there anyone in the area who could even foster Switters until Marley's fund could take him. Jean says he really is a people person cat who is very sweet. He tries with the other cats but they just won't accept him. I've got 5 adult cats in my apt and live with turf wars so adding one more would just put everybody over the edge. Anybody out there who might be able to help? This little guy went thru so much to stay alive! This is Switters. Chris 914-632-4672 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
RE: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric kitty
I think hyperthyroidism is very common in older cats. They go on tapazole just like humans and biggest problem is the once or twice a day pill! Had one cat who lived to early twenties after years of tapazole...There were no restrictions on diet or anything. She had lost some weight and was doing the midnight howling thing went I brought her in and she snapped right back after starting tapazole. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric kitty Hi guys, I took Julie to the vet this past Friday because she was having pain going to the bathroom the Sunday before and had a little blood around her genitals. I couldn't get her to the vet until Friday so I gave her Baytril I had left over from Cricket starting on Sunday, which wiped out whatever bacterial infection she might have had, and all her renal functions seemed to be back to normal by Friday. But I took her in anyway just to be sure, and they ran a urinalysis and total blood/labwork on her. Saturday the vet called me and said her results showed hypertension (she got a 17 on her T4 results, normal is between .4 and 5.2) and he prescribed 10 mg of Tapazole/Methimazole daily. I have to bring her in in two weeks for further blood work to see how the drugs are helping her thyroid. Does anyone here have any experience with hyperthyroidism in their kitty, and what did you do about it? What does T4 measure? Did your kitty pass away from the hyperthyroidism? Did the drugs reverse the heart murmur? What diet would be good for a kitty with hyperthyroidism? Any advice is greatly appreciated! :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Chris-howling
That's what my vet said... of course, that's after I lived with it for a year or so! This from a cat who spent her time eating, sleeping, playing, sleeping and more sleep! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Chris-howling Is the howling a symptom of hyperthyroidism? Is so, that makes sense, as Julie has been doing that for a couple of years. --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think hyperthyroidism is very common in older cats. They go on tapazole just like humans and biggest problem is the once or twice a day pill! Had one cat who lived to early twenties after years of tapazole...There were no restrictions on diet or anything. She had lost some weight and was doing the midnight howling thing went I brought her in and she snapped right back after starting tapazole. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric kitty Hi guys, I took Julie to the vet this past Friday because she was having pain going to the bathroom the Sunday before and had a little blood around her genitals. I couldn't get her to the vet until Friday so I gave her Baytril I had left over from Cricket starting on Sunday, which wiped out whatever bacterial infection she might have had, and all her renal functions seemed to be back to normal by Friday. But I took her in anyway just to be sure, and they ran a urinalysis and total blood/labwork on her. Saturday the vet called me and said her results showed hypertension (she got a 17 on her T4 results, normal is between .4 and 5.2) and he prescribed 10 mg of Tapazole/Methimazole daily. I have to bring her in in two weeks for further blood work to see how the drugs are helping her thyroid. Does anyone here have any experience with hyperthyroidism in their kitty, and what did you do about it? What does T4 measure? Did your kitty pass away from the hyperthyroidism? Did the drugs reverse the heart murmur? What diet would be good for a kitty with hyperthyroidism? Any advice is greatly appreciated! :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Chris-howling
Well I have a friend whose very sleepyhead, big cat started doing the same thing a few months ago. When she took him to vet, sure enough it was his thryroid. She now shares the joys of morning and evening pilling! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Chris-howling Oh LORD!!! I hope not. I've got several 'howlers'. I thought it was something to do with bedtime! t Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what my vet said... of course, that's after I lived with it for a year or so! This from a cat who spent her time eating, sleeping, playing, sleeping and more sleep! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Chris-howling Is the howling a symptom of hyperthyroidism? Is so, that makes sense, as Julie has been doing that for a couple of years. --- Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I think hyperthyroidism is very common in older cats. They go on tapazole just like humans and biggest problem is the once or twice a day pill! Had one cat who lived to early twenties after years of tapazole...There were no restrictions on diet or anything. She had lost some weight and was doing the midnight howling thing went I brought her in and she snapped right back after starting tapazole. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Hypertension and Julie, our geriatric kitty Hi guys, I took Julie to the vet this past Friday because she was having pain going to the bathroom the Sunday before and had a little blood around her genitals. I couldn't get her to the vet until Friday so I gave her Baytril I had left over from Cricket starting on Sunday, which wiped out whatever bacterial infection she might have had, and all her renal functions seemed to be back to normal by Friday. But I took her in anyway just to be sure, and they ran a urinalysis and total blood/labwork on her. Saturday the vet called me and said her results showed hypertension (she got a 17 on her T4 results, normal is between .4 and 5.2) and he prescribed 10 mg of Tapazole/Methimazole daily. I have to bring her in in two weeks for further blood work to see how the drugs are helping her thyroid. Does anyone here have any experience with hyperthyroidism in their kitty, and what did you do about it? What does T4 measure? Did your kitty pass away from the hyperthyroidism? Did the drugs reverse the heart murmur? What diet would be good for a kitty with hyperthyroidism? Any advice is greatly appreciated! :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
TAD TO THE RESCUE: One last URGENT plea for help...
Yeah for TAD He and Jen talked today and little Switters is moving to New England!!! We just need to work out transp. Jen has someone who works in Delta is going to see if she can get a steward to take little Switters. If not, I may have a contact with a stewards group who had offered to take small pets in Cabin with them Just little details, how to get from New Orleans to Vermont. What a tale little Switters will have for his new brothers and sisters!!! and then the water came, and then I swam, and then I didnt have any food, and then I went inside to this house, and then I went on this BIG bird, and now Im here! TADTHANK YOU SO VERY VERY MUCH==YOU ARE A TRUE HERO! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: One last URGENT plea for help... Oh Tadyou are a total hero! I hope transportation can be worked out for little Switters. It's so great that you've given him the chance of a forever home. Thank you! Kerry - Original Message - From: Tad Burnett To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:06 AM Subject: Re: One last URGENT plea for help... Chris I could take him but I am way up here in Vermont... Is there any way you could get him as far as Albany or NYC or New England area I know there were several rescue people from Boston Mass. area that have been back and forth and brought some back with them Don't know if there is any chance of hooking up with them Tad Chris wrote: I posted before about Switters the Katrina kitten found on the street by a New Orleans resident after the hurricane. I met Jean through group Im in working to reunite Katrina pets with their owner. Shes nursed him back to health, domesticated him, chipped him, neutered him and generally brought him back to health! He is FELV+. She has to move out of state next week and cannot take him with her. She has contacted every rescue group and feline organization she could find. She has asked her friends and neighbors but part of the problem is that those handful of people who have returned to New Orleans are all taking care of other pets found in the street! ALL shelters in the Gulf Coast areas are full; almost none are no-kill and almost all would euthanize Switters because of his FELV. Jean, his caretaker, found a place in Ashville that will take her and her three cats but landlord would not even consider a fourth catgo figure. Her cats hate Switters and she really cant just keep them separate. Someone told Jean, Switters caretaker, about a place called animal rescue in Denver but she knows nothing about it nor can she afford to fly Switters up there. Jean has talked to Marleys fund and they are full but put him on a waiting list. Jean is moving to Ashville. Is there anyone in the area who could even foster Switters until Marleys fund could take him. Jean says he really is a people person cat who is very sweet. He tries with the other cats but they just wont accept him. Ive got 5 adult cats in my apt and live with turf wars so adding one more would just put everybody over the edge. Anybody out there who might be able to help? This little guy went thru so much to stay alive! This is Switters. Chris 914-632-4672 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bailey Update
Belinda, Thinking of you and Bailey... I know this is a crazy idea, but what about some sort of intestinal parasites? Could affect Bailey's ability to absorb nutrients? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bailey Update Hi All, I want to thank everyone for your continued prayers and positive energy. Well the xray didn't clear anything up, no tumors or enlarged lymph nodes, his lungs are all clear. and all of the rest of his organs look good, so still a mystery ... I did get the anobolic steroids and will start those tomorrow, I want to be sure the vet is open just in case there is any kind of a reaction. I didn't get the CLS updated today, I'm sorry I will get it first thing for sure tomorrow. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
One last URGENT plea for help...
I posted before about Switters the Katrina kitten found on the street by a New Orleans resident after the hurricane. I met Jean through group Im in working to reunite Katrina pets with their owner. Shes nursed him back to health, domesticated him, chipped him, neutered him and generally brought him back to health! He is FELV+. She has to move out of state next week and cannot take him with her. She has contacted every rescue group and feline organization she could find. She has asked her friends and neighbors but part of the problem is that those handful of people who have returned to New Orleans are all taking care of other pets found in the street! ALL shelters in the Gulf Coast areas are full; almost none are no-kill and almost all would euthanize Switters because of his FELV. Jean, his caretaker, found a place in Ashville that will take her and her three cats but landlord would not even consider a fourth catgo figure. Her cats hate Switters and she really cant just keep them separate. Someone told Jean, Switters caretaker, about a place called animal rescue in Denver but she knows nothing about it nor can she afford to fly Switters up there. Jean has talked to Marleys fund and they are full but put him on a waiting list. Jean is moving to Ashville. Is there anyone in the area who could even foster Switters until Marleys fund could take him. Jean says he really is a people person cat who is very sweet. He tries with the other cats but they just wont accept him. Ive got 5 adult cats in my apt and live with turf wars so adding one more would just put everybody over the edge. Anybody out there who might be able to help? This little guy went thru so much to stay alive! This is Switters. Chris 914-632-4672 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: One last URGENT plea for help...
TAD Wheres there a will, theres a way Its too late (or maybe too early) for me to call Jen tonight I can call her tomorrow she could get him to Ashville or there were some Delta staff who had volunteered to fly small Katrina pets in the cabins with them! Maybe I can find out about that Whats the best way of getting you and Jen together to talk? Can she call you? She has a bunch of pictures of Switters she could send She has his med records, etc. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: One last URGENT plea for help... Chris I could take him but I am way up here in Vermont... Is there any way you could get him as far as Albany or NYC or New England area I know there were several rescue people from Boston Mass. area that have been back and forth and brought some back with them Don't know if there is any chance of hooking up with them Tad Chris wrote: I posted before about Switters the Katrina kitten found on the street by a New Orleans resident after the hurricane. I met Jean through group Im in working to reunite Katrina pets with their owner. Shes nursed him back to health, domesticated him, chipped him, neutered him and generally brought him back to health! He is FELV+. She has to move out of state next week and cannot take him with her. She has contacted every rescue group and feline organization she could find. She has asked her friends and neighbors but part of the problem is that those handful of people who have returned to New Orleans are all taking care of other pets found in the street! ALL shelters in the Gulf Coast areas are full; almost none are no-kill and almost all would euthanize Switters because of his FELV. Jean, his caretaker, found a place in Ashville that will take her and her three cats but landlord would not even consider a fourth catgo figure. Her cats hate Switters and she really cant just keep them separate. Someone told Jean, Switters caretaker, about a place called animal rescue in Denver but she knows nothing about it nor can she afford to fly Switters up there. Jean has talked to Marleys fund and they are full but put him on a waiting list. Jean is moving to Ashville. Is there anyone in the area who could even foster Switters until Marleys fund could take him. Jean says he really is a people person cat who is very sweet. He tries with the other cats but they just wont accept him. Ive got 5 adult cats in my apt and live with turf wars so adding one more would just put everybody over the edge. Anybody out there who might be able to help? This little guy went thru so much to stay alive! This is Switters. Chris 914-632-4672 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: dry food causing problems?
My vet told me that the original thinking of dry food is changing. Before it was recommended to only feed dry food. Now they are finding out that cats do become obese or have chronic constipation. Not to mention that dry food is harder to digest and can slow the metabolism. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amy Watson Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:39 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: dry food causing problems? I'm reading through Wendy's sick kitty manual, and I just found this, which surprised me: Dry food: Not good for cats. Contributes to obesity. Exacerbates all sorts of health problems. I wondered if you folks could help me understand why this is? We've been feeding our cats weight-management hairball-control dry food for years, and I'd never seen this kind of claim before. Right now we have Eukanuba Mature Care for our cats that are 9 years old and actually eating. -- Amy K. Watson Columbus, Ohio http://writerscereal.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release Date: 2/4/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release Date: 2/4/2006
RE: Bailey Update
Belinda, I know it may sound stupid but what about A D cream (NOT ointment) for his bottom... Works on little babies-- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bailey Update Hi Tonya, Yes I have changed his diet to ID it is for sensitive tummies and so far so good, no diarrhea since Thursday night. Now if his bottom will heal and he wouls perk up a bit. We went to the vet and they couldn't get any blood from his legs, so they had to use his jugular. My vet said he is pretty strong still for a kitty so weak at home. I will have the results tomorrow sometime and of course I'm hoping it will be good news. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Bailey Update
Just use the Cream, not the ointmentthe ointment seems to have other things in it and doesnt work quite as well. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bailey Update Actually a veterinary oncologist told us to use that on our dog Nubi when she was raw from diarrhea and anal gland tumors, and it did help. Michelle In a message dated 2/4/2006 10:29:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Belinda, I know it may sound stupid but what about A D cream (NOT ointment) for his bottom... Works on little babies--
RE: CLS for Orange Julius (OJ)
Tad, After what OJ and his kitty friends went through in Angel Wings, please take some comfort in knowing that your love and comfort was the most important thing that anyone ever gave them. The love OJ gave back is a measure of the love he received Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad Burnett Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: CLS for Orange Julius (OJ) I got the date wrong...It was Tuesday but that was Jan. 31, 2006... He was a very special friend and I haven't been able to put his passing in writing until now and it still was very hard Tad Tad Burnett wrote: Little OJ has gone to be with his best kitty friends Winky and Callie... Those 3 seemed to be close friends when they arrived here from Angel Wings and now they are all back together at the Rainbow Bridge.. Last Tuesday (Feb. 2,2006) we took OJ to the vet... He cried when we picked him up refused to take any food from his syringe... The vet said his cancer on his kidney had grown huge suddenly and he was in pain and it was time to let him go... It was so hard because he seemed to love life and everyone around him so much...He sat on the table and watched the doc prepare his needle with intense interest and he purred for the tech as she shaved his leg and the needle was inserted... Little OJ was the kitty from the Angel Wings rescue that when they 1st examined him at the vets in Tenn. he just flopped on his side... At 1st they thought he was too week to stand up but then they realized it was because he was so happy to have human touch again... The 1st night he was here and I had him in the introduction cage in the room with all my cats...When he saw me get in bed he cried and cried and looked like he wanted to join me...He had seemed so friendly with everyone that I gave in and opened the door and sure enough he made a be line for the bed and he has been there right next to me every night since.. The FeLV must have already destroyed most of his immune system when he arrived here as he had to constantly be on antibiotics to keep URI under control and at 1st he would sneeze blood and that was from the URI had gotten into the hair bones in his nose... A strong antibiotic did take care of that... Because of his chronic URI he never had much appetite and we always gave him special attention to get him to eat... I know he missed Winky...He was only here for a few weeks... Winky just went to sleep and didn't wake up...He was very anemic and a bad heart... It was after that that OJ started loosing weight... We gave him special food and he was doing better and then Callie passed...It was right after that that he started peeing outside his box and we had him tested but nothing showed except that his urine was watery and we gave him something to make it a little more acid incase he was getting crystals build up... He seemed better for a while and put a little weight back on but then he started to eat less again but he took his A/D food without complaining from a syringe...With that it seemed like he was getting but he was getting skinnyer and skinnyer and we knew it was cancer taking him away I miss my supper friendly little orange kitty and I do hope I will get to be with him again some day. Sleep well sweet OJ
RE: Bailey Update
Belinda, I havent posted very much lately but I just want to tell you that your story about Bailey really gave me inspiration. Wish I were knowledgeable enough to help more but I know that the great people here will help you with that. But my thoughts are with you Bailey Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:51 AM To: FeLV Talk List [New] Subject: Bailey Update Bailey is not doing very good, he is getting 200ccs of food a day but is still wasting away. He is still getting epo 3X a week, and 20mg of prednisolone split into 10mgs twice a day. His diarrhea is for the most part gone, although he did just tonight have a mixture of a solid and runny bowel movement. He is sooo bony and his muscle is all but gone on him, he is wasting away and I am starting to think there is cancer somewhere that we haven't found. He has that cancer look (wasting away). He potties wherever he wants and still just lays around. I'm really worried about him, he seems so depressed. We are suppose to do bloodwork in a week but I don't know that I want to wait that long. Our last option is to add leukeran to the prednisolone he is getting. He will be laying somewhere and when he gets up there is usually a little poop there, so it is still coming out of him involuntarily, he doesn't seem to have any control over it sometimes. Anyone know what may be causing this??? Prayers are really needed, my baby is slipping away from me and I don't know what to do ... -- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: URGENT: Switters- Katrina kitty looking for home....
Thank you so very much Im in NY but not too many resources here and nothing left available in the Gulf Region! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 6:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: URGENT: Switters- Katrina kitty looking for home I'm going to cross post to some local lists in georgia. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chris, Switters looks so sweet and I'm sure is so very deserving. I wish I could offer her, you and her previous savior something more than words of encouragement. I pray she finds her forever home soon, or that her owner will figure out a way to do what she now believes is impossible and take her with. Nina Chris wrote: I know everybody is absolutely overwhelmed and though I havent posted lately (been up to my ears with Katrina reunification attempts), I have been trying hard to keep up with everything thats been happening. Its not been a good few months for everyone and I know that the last thing anybody wants to hear is about another FELV+ kitty running out of time. This is turning into a pretty desperate situation. The woman who rescued this little guy has to move by mid February and absolutely cannot take Switters with her. She rescued this little guy and brought him back to life and socialized him and she is at her wits end as to what to do now She posted Switters on bemikitties but there is no picture Here is Switters! If anybody has any ideas of rescue groups, shelters, anything at all. Louisiana shelters will not take him or will euthanize him. She says he is so sociable that she really would like to find him a home but would have to settle for a shelter if she has to. Anyone have any ideasTIME IS OF THE ESSENSE!
URGENT: Switters- Katrina kitty looking for home....
I know everybody is absolutely overwhelmed and though I havent posted lately (been up to my ears with Katrina reunification attempts), I have been trying hard to keep up with everything thats been happening. Its not been a good few months for everyone and I know that the last thing anybody wants to hear is about another FELV+ kitty running out of time. This is turning into a pretty desperate situation. The woman who rescued this little guy has to move by mid February and absolutely cannot take Switters with her. She rescued this little guy and brought him back to life and socialized him and she is at her wits end as to what to do now She posted Switters on bemikitties but there is no picture Here is Switters! If anybody has any ideas of rescue groups, shelters, anything at all. Louisiana shelters will not take him or will euthanize him. She says he is so sociable that she really would like to find him a home but would have to settle for a shelter if she has to. Anyone have any ideasTIME IS OF THE ESSENSE! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 2:10 AM To: Net [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Switters- Katrina kitty looking for home I cant seem to get post right so if a dupe, I apologize, I tried posting this before but I think it did not go through I am working with a group trying to reunite Katrina pets with their Gulf Coast owners. A woman posted that she had rescued a very young kitten right after the storm. She says he was really feral when she found him but has become very accustomed to the good life! She is having to move within a month and is really anxious to find him a forever home. He is FELV+. Switters is about 6 months old and when Jean found him, he was out in the street and emaciated-she guesses he was 8-10 weeks old. He has been neutered, gotten first shots, is microchipped. Jean has posted him in bemikitties and is really anxious to find him a home. She has to move in a month and cannot take him with her. She has gone above and beyond for this little guy who she says is totally asymptomatic and it is breaking her heart that she cannot keep him. Unfortunately, the options in New Orleans area for shelter for Switters are pretty dismal and I told her I would post her info. I tried sending picture of Switters but it may have been too large a post for it to go thru. I know everyone is full but if you could even give her some ideas, I know she would be eternally grateful. She has loads of pictures and he sure does seem to have domesticated pretty well! Her name is Jean Kottermann, Phone 504-931-9758, e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This little one survived a hurricane on the street, hes got to have a lot of spunk! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: URGENT: Switters- Katrina kitty looking for home....
Switters is a he Actually, Jean who rescued him placed an ad in New Orleans paper about him and one of the member of our group (StealthVolunteers) posted it. I followed up with Jean and told her I would post here. Like so many Katrina victims, she doesnt have too many options and will be moving out of state. She really went above and beyond for this little guy. Its likely he was a stray kitten who somehow survived the floods but would not have survived living out on the post-Katrina New Orleans streets. Jean said it took a while to get him to come to her but that since hes been in---well, he enjoys all the comforts of indoor living! Shes going to be moving to Ashvillecan somebody help me rememberisnt Marleys Fund somewhere in the Carolinas? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: URGENT: Switters- Katrina kitty looking for home Hi Chris, Switters looks so sweet and I'm sure is so very deserving. I wish I could offer her, you and her previous savior something more than words of encouragement. I pray she finds her forever home soon, or that her owner will figure out a way to do what she now believes is impossible and take her with. Nina Chris wrote: I know everybody is absolutely overwhelmed and though I havent posted lately (been up to my ears with Katrina reunification attempts), I have been trying hard to keep up with everything thats been happening. Its not been a good few months for everyone and I know that the last thing anybody wants to hear is about another FELV+ kitty running out of time. This is turning into a pretty desperate situation. The woman who rescued this little guy has to move by mid February and absolutely cannot take Switters with her. She rescued this little guy and brought him back to life and socialized him and she is at her wits end as to what to do now She posted Switters on bemikitties but there is no picture Here is Switters! If anybody has any ideas of rescue groups, shelters, anything at all. Louisiana shelters will not take him or will euthanize him. She says he is so sociable that she really would like to find him a home but would have to settle for a shelter if she has to. Anyone have any ideasTIME IS OF THE ESSENSE!
Katrina Kitty needs home (FELV+)
I tried posting this before but I think it did not go throughIve not posted much of anything lately as I have been knee deep working with a group trying to reunite Katrina pets with their Gulf Coast owners. A woman posted that she had rescued a very young kitten right after the storm. She says he was really feral when she found him but has become very accustomed to the good life! She is having to move within a month and is really anxious to find him a forever home. He is FELV+. Switters is about 6 months old and when Jean found him, he was out in the street and ematiated-she guesses he was 8-10 weeks old. He has been neutered, gotten first shots, is microchipped. Jean has posted him in bemikitties and is really anxious to find him a home. She has to move in a month and cannot take him with her. She has gone above and beyond for this little guy who she says is totally asymptomatic and it is breaking her heart that she cannot keep him. Unfortunately, the options in New Orleans area for shelter for Switters are pretty dismal and I told her I would post her info. I tried sending picture of Switters but it may have been too large a post for it to go thru. I know everyone is full but if you could even give her some ideas, I know she would be eternally grateful. She has loads of pictures and he sure does seem to have domesticated pretty well! Her name is Jean Kottermann, Phone 504-931-9758, e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This little one survived a hurricane on the street, hes got to have a lot of spunk! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Switters- Katrina kitty looking for home....
I cant seem to get post right so if a dupe, I apologize, I tried posting this before but I think it did not go through I am working with a group trying to reunite Katrina pets with their Gulf Coast owners. A woman posted that she had rescued a very young kitten right after the storm. She says he was really feral when she found him but has become very accustomed to the good life! She is having to move within a month and is really anxious to find him a forever home. He is FELV+. Switters is about 6 months old and when Jean found him, he was out in the street and ematiated-she guesses he was 8-10 weeks old. He has been neutered, gotten first shots, is microchipped. Jean has posted him in bemikitties and is really anxious to find him a home. She has to move in a month and cannot take him with her. She has gone above and beyond for this little guy who she says is totally asymptomatic and it is breaking her heart that she cannot keep him. Unfortunately, the options in New Orleans area for shelter for Switters are pretty dismal and I told her I would post her info. I tried sending picture of Switters but it may have been too large a post for it to go thru. I know everyone is full but if you could even give her some ideas, I know she would be eternally grateful. She has loads of pictures and he sure does seem to have domesticated pretty well! Her name is Jean Kottermann, Phone 504-931-9758, e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This little one survived a hurricane on the street, hes got to have a lot of spunk! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DO NOT ADOPT alert
Wouldnt we all love to get this guy in a dark alley! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:33 PM To: felvtalk Subject: OT: DO NOT ADOPT alert Forwarding this from my rescue group. Anyone in rescue should be aware of this guy. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/ My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ALERT!!! DO NOT ADOPT TO SHON M. RAHRIG. SEE HIS FACE/DATA HERE This guy is a monster - and he's rumored to be in my area now! Ack...I will commit his face to memory and make sure none of my babies go to him. He's surfaced from FL to OH and usually posts and ad or tells groups he's looking for a smalldog for his little daughter. Shon M. RahrigGender: Male Approximate Age: 30 (around36 yrs old now) Date of Birth: Mar 26, 1969 Location: Fort Myers, FL (US) History Convicted: Cats mutilated, eyes poked out, paws cut off Feb 6, 1999 - Columbus, OH (US) Sentence: 90 days in jail (of which 45 were suspended), 5 years probation, mandatory counseling and he was forbidden from owning any living thing during the 5 year probation period.
Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
This is a Katrina rescue whose owners have not been found due to be PTS on MONDAY due to testing pos for FIV Anyone here have any ideas Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Aaron Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:50 AM To: Stealth Volunteers Subject: Re: [stealthvolunteers] >From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help This is cat that needs adoption before it is euthanized: Pretty thing LeAnne G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:34:55 -0600 From: KittiCo Cat Rescue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: URGENT NEED - Katrina Cat in Desperate Situation One of the rescued Katrina cats is going to be euthanized on Monday and we are trying to keep this from happening. When we brought back the 128 Katrina rescue cats, several rescue groups stepped forward to take 2-3 cats each (the bulk of them remained with us). Another group from this area took four cats. We have found the owners of three of them, but the fourth one has not been reunited. Here's the problem: this cat has tested positive for feline AIDS. It's a healthy cat. It's a SWEET cat. She's a loving lap cat who loves to hang out with you and watch TV. And, she's beautiful. But she has AIDS. She's about 10 years old and doesn't look her age. The only sign of her age is a few missing upper teeth. To see a picture of her go to: www.kittico.org/graphics/camille.jpg. She's a beauty! The group that took her has a policy of euthanizing cats that have tested positive for AIDS. They extended the policy because of the 90- day hold on Katrina cats, but now they need the space to rescue others. The foster who has kept her all this time can no longer keep her. They have given us until Monday morning and if we can't find a place for her to go, she will be euthanized. Not because of anything she's done. Not because she's unhealthy. But, because somewhere along the line, she picked up feline AIDS. She could possibly have been born with it. Feline AIDS is not transmittable to people. It's not transmittable to dogs. But, it is transmittable to other cats. It's not likely, but it is possible. It's normally transmitted by sex or fighting. Cats with AIDS (FIV) can live a normal life. Cats with feline leukemia usually have shortened lives, but AIDS positive cats are just like any other cats. It's like AIDS in humans . . . a secondary infection - not the AIDS - is what causes their demise. Here's how you can help. Call your Aunt who lives alone. Call your retired cousin and his wife. Call your mom. Call everybody you've ever known in your whole life. See if they have a place in their heart for a sweet, loving cat who was rescued from a horrible situation in New Orleans, kept in a loving home for several months and is now going to be killed by her rescuers. It can't hurt to try - and maybe somebody will come through and save this beautiful girl. Please email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, or call: 214-826-6903, ext. 1, if you can you help. Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Aaron Stealth Volunteer - Washington State Reuniting Katrina pets with their owners. Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group stealthvolunteers on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: URGENT!!!--ANYBODY HERE NEAR Grantsville (western Maryland -almost to WV)
Well, everybody seems to be cross posting everywhere. I just talked to Shannonshe says that Amys biggest worry is the dog that escaped! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 3:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: URGENT!!!--ANYBODY HERE NEAR Grantsville (western Maryland -almost to WV) Chris~ Sorry, I just checked and it's at least a3-4 hour drive for me Patti
RE: advice needed re half-adopted cat
Title: Message You know, when I was feeding my strays, there was a young cat that belonged to a restaurant there. The cat was always out the owner said that the cat could come in when he wanted to but sometimes just didnt want to Of course, when he closed up at night, he didnt go looking this poor cat would be out in the snow. Well, when I picked up the last of the strays, I was tempted to take the little guy as well but I thought, maybe he wont want to go out as much if none of the strays are left, theyre going to see me take him, etc. etc. I checked a couple of times with the owner after that and the cat was always out but he assured me that he brought it in at night. Months later I learned the cat had vanished soon after I left I have always regretted not taking him right then and there! People with attitude like that about their pets dont get them microchipped, they dont even notice the pets are missing! Go on a weekend and get this cat out of there. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: advice needed re half-adopted cat Hi guys The same good friend who told me about the kitty with litterbox problems that was under threat of pts (apparently happily resolved, for now at any rate) updated me on another situation. Background: Misha is a stray that was sort of taken in by the people who work in a studio at the same business complex where my friend works. I say sort of because although two of the workers took her to the vet after she was badly attacked, and although they feed her, they don't take her home at the weekend: ie no one is actually making Misha their responsibility. In the summer and fall Misha would be found outside after they had all locked up and gone home for the weekend. When my friend, distressed by Misha's situation,offered to try to find Misha a home, the studio owner (who my friend saysseems to bea reasonable, decent guy) rejected the proposal, saying that they had adopted her. Recently -- and it is really cold now--- my friend found Misha miaowing in vain at the studio door to be let in. My friend knocked on the door, and one of the other workers (not the owner) opened it. When she explained the cat needed to come in, the response to her was Haven't you got anything better to do? Q--where do we go from here? If my friend justtakes Misha, there's a chance a surveillance camera will record the action as it's a business location.Also, even if she did that, when she takes her to the vet, what happens if she's been microchipped by those people? Is the vet legally/ethically prevented from removing the chip and replacing it? Obligated to contact the people? My friend would not be keeping Misha as she's allergic to cats; she'd want my help in placing her in the shelter whereI have a good contact. Not ideal but she would at least be cared for there. However, I'd need to know how to resolve the chip situation first. My friend's proposal was to talk to the owner again and try to make him understand that someone needs to take proper responsibility for the cat. My feeling was that ifshe fails, then she will be the first person he suspects if and when shekidnaps Misha. And the scene could turn ugly. Even if I were to find andrescue the catwhen Ihappen to be passing by at the weekend the microchip Q still arises. (We don't know if she's microchipped -- is there a way for a layperson to scan her without vet involvement?) All input/info welcome on how Misha gets the care she deserves---I've no experience in this field---yet. ButI know some of youheroes do. Kerry =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Kitty thrown from car
We can only hope that the person who threw him from the car has the very same thing happen to him! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steph E Caldwell Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 1:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Kitty thrown from car This past weekend I got called into work at the farm where I board, they needed a hand and I was avaliable. On my way to the barn I was in a hurry, but rounding a curve there was this little tiny kitten in the road. I had our full size PU and it's not real manuverable. I swerved, but thought I hit it. The car behind me stradled it, thankfully. I pulled over, hopped out, and found I hadn't hit it, but it appeared to have been thrown from a car judging by his wounds. He was at most 3 weeks old. I tucked him into a box with a red mechanics rag (greasy one, I didn't have anything to put him in) and took him to the farm with intentions of having him euthanized if I couldn't find a home. Called a few people and left it at that... One of the training clients adopts ferals and took him home Saturday. I heard this morning he's fat, sassy, and fitting in well. I'm nto sure what his injuries are, but he's eating well... Steph
Best Friends...
Just to let you know it will likely be a long time before BF contacts this person... They really are knee deep in Katrina rescues and finding homes for animals that are still being rescued every day Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:48 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Tonya-elderly lady Hey Tonya, I emailed the email addy on that original email to let the contact person know about Best Friends. They emailed me back and let me know that they had contacted Best Friends and got a recording that they were still busy with Katrina rescues and to leave their information, and they would be contacted as soon as possible. I will let you know if I get another email. Let us know if you hear anything. I hope those kitties and their guardian get help soon! :) Wendy --- catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone, Thank you for your responses. I knew there were people here would understand. We have a girl on a list here trying to give away her 4 cats because she bought a new car! Yes, we checked it out. How selfish can people be. I guess pets are like an old pair of shoes to them. It makes me MAD as much as it makes me depressed. Also, I have over a hundred emails to go through, but hopefully I'll find out some info about the elderly lady caring for all of the cats on a fixed income. tonya BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheila and all, Keep on writing those letters - to the newspapers too. Bonnie Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead, anthropologist - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:59 am Subject: Re: Tonya- depression-bridge list addition To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Tonya,I feel exactly the same way. Ever since seeing Larry King my depression has been overwhelming. Maybe I have been wearing blinders but I knew absolutely nothing about this situation and I wish I still knew nothing about it. I know that makes me a coward but I can't help it. I can't even watch the animal shows where the lions run the poor helpless prey down and kill them for food. I can't get the look of fear on the poor babies faces out of my mind. The cruelty in this world is unbelievable. I still can't sleep for the depression. If I could wake up and it would be spring, maybe that would help. All I can do now is write letters, sign petitions and try to get my friends to do the same. Sheila in SC trying to cope. God bless you for your kindness. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: sanctuaries
This is the famous (or rather infamous, EDNAH sanctuary) that among other things got a bunch of dogs rescued in New Orleans area because of Hurricane Katrina. I believe the Katrina dogs placed there were from Pasado, a reputable group in Oregon?, not sure, that had done rescue in NOLA. As a second tragedy, one of the places that some the EDNAH dogs were sent to in Kansas, also just got raided for exactly the same conditions. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 8:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: sanctuaries Here is a post I just received. I'm just saying you have to be extremely careful with sanctuaries. I think ALL of them are started for the right reasons. People just get overwhelmed and then we have situations like this. :( Of course I realize there aremany wonderful sanctuaries. I think people wanting to get rid of an animal for some reason just jump on the term 'sanctuary' and leave an animal there thinking they've done the 'right' thing without doing any checking, etc It's a shame, but many sanctuaries end up in bad situations. t Ark. Animal Rescuers Charged With Cruelty GAMALIEL, Ark. Two owners of an animal rescue operation were arrested after hundreds of dogs, some rescued from Hurricane Katrina, were found on the couple's property groveling for food among urine and feces, authorities said Saturday. Among the stench, sheriff's deputies found one dead dog, another with a broken leg, and many with sores, Baxter County Sheriff John Montgomery said. Between 400 and 500 dogs were on the two-acre lot, including 50 pit bulls rescued from Louisiana after the hurricane, Montgomery said. About 75 dogs were running loose, he said. Some of the dogs appeared to be aggressive; others sat nervously in small metal cages. It's very sad that people depend on this shelter to take care of their animals and you get here and see that the conditions are just unbelievable, Montgomery said. William Hanson, 41, and his wife Tammy Hanson, 38, were charged Friday with animal cruelty and released on $1,000 bond each. Messages left with the couple Saturday seeking comment were not immediately returned. Volunteers and a veterinarian were tending to the animals at E.D.N.A.H. Animal Rescue and Sanctuary, or Every Dog Needs A Home. Montgomery said the dogs might be sent to other shelters or rescue groups. ___ October 23, 2005 - 7:22 a.m. EDT Copyright 2005, The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP Online news report may not be published, broadcast or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. When it comes to saving the life of an animal, trust no one other than yourself!! DO NOT THINK SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO IT!!! SPONSORED LINKS Barbie pet rescue North georgias Save the world YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group kittycityrescue on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: sanctuaries
I am a member of a group of volunteers (StealthVolunteers) trying to reunify Katrina victims with their lost pets Does your shelter need any help in locating owners? There are about 700+ members and weve had a pretty good success rate! Cats are particularly hard for owners to find as many are not listed on Petfinder and even if they are, most are listed as domestic short hair. Also, you need unlimited long distance to call shelters all over the country and need to have access for hours of searching on the internet if you even want a chance of finding your cat! Contact me privately if we can be of assistance. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: sanctuaries I just started volunteering for a felv and fiv rescue,and it is very rewarding knowing that I am helping these sweet beautiful animals to be happy and loved while they are here.The conditions of the place is pretty good,there are workers there to clean litter boxes and change water and dry food bowls all through the day up til around 9 or so.I just got home from there.The sanctuary is ran by a vet whom I believe is a godsend to these babies.She also runs another one for the healthy kitties,I volunteer there too.I know I will be very sad when we lose one,but I just have to remember that they are loved while they are here instead of out in the streets,I am in Michigan and it is cold.We have 8 Katrina cats there. Sherry TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about sanctuaries: there is NO substitute for a forever home! at the sanctuary where i lived/worked, we did NOT take in housecats, only strays and ferals. housecats just did not do well in our setting, tho for the cats who had lived on their own, it was wonderful--constant food, water, a roof over their heads, warmth (or cool, in the summer), big windows to watch the birds and mice and raccoons through, and people to love them. did they get enough attention? does any cat? we knew them all by name, we cuddled with those who wanted it and just kept an eye out for medical problems in those who did NOT consider humans a good thing. because of state law, anything upholstered or carpeted that couldn't be sanitized was not allowed--no comfy furniture, no ordinary cat-trees. but little tykes furniture and kid's pools full of blankies and beds work very well--usually, the pool have more than a dozen cats in them at once. it was their home, but it wasn't A home keeping volunteers for a FeLV situation can be difficult: the reality is that FeLV cats die a lot sooner and more frequently than do FIVs or the general population cats. finding someone gone in the morning was a not uncommon occurrence; sometimes we'd known there were going and had been treating them and keeping them comfortable, but just as often, there'd been no warning at all. this was VERY VERY difficult for a lot of outsiders to handle. (not that it was simple for us, but we were more accepting that it was gonna happen. a good sanctuary will have a board that has arrangements made in case the people running it are unable to; a good sanctuary will always let people come by to see the place before a cat is placed. this is NOT the same as being open to the public: many sanctuaries are located in or near the homes of those who run it, and neither they nor the cats expect to have to deal with a constant stream of people in and out. we NEVER kept anyone with a legitimate reason to come by from doing so--but we needed notice, and respect for the fact that, occasionally, the cats allowed us a few hours to ourselves! most of all, a good sanctuary will know how to say, No, when they are at capacity. many of the sanctuaries that have gotten in trouble have done so because turning down cats is so difficult. all it takes is to have a few cats too many, and to encounter a problem--personal illness, an outbreak of an illness in the cats, a loss of volunteers, an unexpected dip in donations--and the situation can rapidly spiral downward. i'm not sure why, but i've known a lot of people doing sanctuary work who've found themselves in a situation that may be temporary, but they don't ask for help from their boards and people who WOULD help if they knew. fear of asking YET AGAIN for help? embarassment that they got into a difficult situation? thinking that the don't need anyone else? who knows--but it happens too often. working with FeLVs and FIVs and other special-needs cats was incredibly hard, and amazingly rewarding--if there's a sanctuary near you, see if there's any help you can offer them. it's all for these cats that no one seems to want... MC -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
RE: sanctuaries
Well, I found the brother of the woman who lived in the apt from which the cat was taken. He would not give me her name said he would ask her to call. Havent heard but will try again tomorrow. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: sanctuaries Chris! I just knew you'd chime in about Stealth Volunteers. If you didn't reply w/in the next day, I was going to forward this to you...The Stealth Queen. I know with your involvement, you are the cat's MEOW.. (Any luck with your poor little baby.???) Patti
RE: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ...
Angels Gate on LI takes FELV FIV--- they have waiting list though. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia Lamoretti Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:35 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: FeLV+ / FIV+ Maine Coon ... Hi -- I'm new to the group and hope I'm not breaking any rules. This is my first experience with an FeLV+ cat who is also FIV+. There is this beautiful orange and white Garfield Maine Coone that needs a home. Rescued off the streets of Long Island just before the cold snap, I initially had a home all lined up for this sweet boy but have found him to be FeLV and FIV+.The home is no longer anoption. I received a call from someone that has FeLV+ cats but is reluctant to mix Buddy Boy into the equation because of his FIV+ status. I'm running a Western Blot to be sure but what would be the downside of mixing him into her bunch? I guess I always worried about mixing FeLV into FIV positive homes ... does anyone have any information? Does anyone know of a FeLV / FIV positive home that has room for one more? This boy is getting so depressed in a cage. He's at the vet's office and he must be out by x-mas. Not sure where to look for potential foster, etc. Thanks for any advice. PAT Yahoo! Personals Skip the bars and set-ups and start using Yahoo! Personals for free
RE: Cat shampoo to recommend...
I don't know about taking her out someplace to bathe. I might consider if I absolutely fail! Big Boy is fine. I've sort of renamed him Romeo as he is the mushiest, most loving cat you can imagine and follows around my oldest female like a puppy until she's had enough and gives him a swat! Aaaah, true love. My only problem remains Tucson's absolute hatred of him and I am out of ideas. She cannot see him moving without going balistic. Thing is, he runs away but if she pins him down, he's a whole lot better at fighting than she is and she always ends up with scratches, a couple of bites, etc. You'd think she'd be afraid, but not, it just seems to incite her further. For a lot of reasons, things have been a little chaotic here as I'm changing some furniture, cleaning closets, etc. so everybody's a little crowded for a while which of course does not help. Once things settle down, I'll try the reintros again but its tough! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:01 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cat shampoo to recommend... i'm a coward when it comes to certain things--and bathing fractious cats is definitely one of those things. therefore, my best answer to this question is, whatever the really experienced cat groomer wants to use! we have a self-serve dog/cat wash facility an hour or so away: fully equipped spaces to rent with all the accountrements (i guess fully equipped implies that, tho, doesn't it...)--and, theoretcially, trained professionals to save the human if required (good first-aid kits?) making friends with groomers is always a good thing to do! i fostered/transported/placed 7 kitties that a groomer had rescued from an abuse situation--free grooming for life! actually, just learning the correct way to use clippers without being terrified has been the biggest dividend (how's big boy, btw?) -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
