Re: [gentoo-user] qt-3.3.4-r2 fails to compile
050227 Dion Sole wrote: On Sun, 2005-02-27 at 04:33 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i tried Xorg last year got nasty font problems, so i've delayed going over to it till i'm more confident re fonts. i haven't seen any notices Last call! Xfree won't work anymore! A possibly better notice then would be that Xfree is in fact no longer even in the portage tree now :) i knew it was threatened, but hadn't realised it had already gone. You shouldnt notice any font issues under Xorg really. The directories changed frequently when Xorg first went into portage, so that could have helped your problem. But now everything is stable, so it should be fine. ok, i have planned to try it again, but hadn't got there yet. anyway, Qt can also wait a bit too. thanx for your help. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] qt-3.3.4-r2 fails to compile
before i submit a bug, does anyone have a simple explanation : g++ -c -pipe -fno-exceptions -Wall -W -O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DQT_SHARED -DQ\ T_TABLET_SUPPORT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGE\ _FILES -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DQT_NO_XINERAMA -DQT_DLOPEN_OPENGL -DQT_BUILTIN_GIF_READER=1 -DQT_NO\ _STYLE_MAC -DQT_NO_STYLE_AQUA -DQT_NO_STYLE_INTERLACE -DQT_NO_STYLE_WINDOWSXP -DQT_NO_STYLE_COMPACT\ -DQT_NO_STYLE_POCKETPC -I/z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.4-r2/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -\ I/usr/include/freetype2 -I3rdparty/opentype -I../include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I.moc/release-shared\ -mt/ -o .obj/release-shared-mt/qglcolormap.o opengl/qglcolormap.cpp In file included from opengl/qgl.h:79, from opengl/qgl.cpp:38: /usr/X11R6/include/GL/gl.h:2469:22: GL/glext.h: No such file or directory /z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.4-r2/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/bin/moc opengl/qgl_x11.cpp -o .moc/release-shared\ -mt/qgl_x11.moc g++ -c -pipe -fno-exceptions -Wall -W -O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DQT_SHARED -DQ\ T_TABLET_SUPPORT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGE\ _FILES -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DQT_NO_XINERAMA -DQT_DLOPEN_OPENGL -DQT_BUILTIN_GIF_READER=1 -DQT_NO\ _STYLE_MAC -DQT_NO_STYLE_AQUA -DQT_NO_STYLE_INTERLACE -DQT_NO_STYLE_WINDOWSXP -DQT_NO_STYLE_COMPACT\ -DQT_NO_STYLE_POCKETPC -I/z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.4-r2/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -\ I/usr/include/freetype2 -I3rdparty/opentype -I../include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I.moc/release-shared\ -mt/ -o .obj/release-shared-mt/qsqlquery.o sql/qsqlquery.cpp make[1]: *** [.obj/release-shared-mt/qgl.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[1]: Leaving directory `/z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.4-r2/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.4/src' make: *** [sub-src] Error 2 !!! ERROR: x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r2 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 139, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Restart X while emerging in xterm?
050220 Qiangning Hong wrote: I have started a long-time emerging in an xterm. i want to restart X, but I don't want to intercept the emerging process. Is it possible that I suspend it and restart X and resume it in another xterm? how about 'control-z' to suspend it, then 'bg' to restart it in background ? i don't know if subsequently killing the Bash process will kill the job too. there's also the possibility of going to another raw console with 'control-alt-F2' doing what you want outside X there, then returning with 'control-alt-F7'. these are HTH suggestions: i would be pleased to be further enlightened by others (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] wierd slotting of Libgtkhtml
i had libgtkhtml-3.2.3yelp-2.6.4 installed, the 2nd for Xscreensaver, was told by 'revdep-rebuild' to re-emerge 'yelp'. when i tried to do this, it gave libgtkhtml-2.6.0 as a dependency indeed when i tried 'emerge --nodeps yelp' it refused to compile. after 'emerge yelp' installing libgtkhtml-2.6.0 besides -3.2.3 , i tried 'qpkg' to see what it had to say about dependencies got : gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.6.0 * DEPENDED ON BY: libgtkhtml-3.2.3 yelp-2.6.4 gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-3.2.3 * DEPENDED ON BY: libgtkhtml-3.2.3 yelp-2.6.4 how can Libgtkhtml depend on itself ?? why does Yelp need both slotted versions ?? does anyone have any light to throw ... (smile) ? BTW i don't use Gnome, but install whatever bits other packages need. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] weird OO font problem
i have a document which among much else contains some bold text. last October, using the latest version of Open Office, i was able to print it correctly using Times New Roman font. today, using OO 1.1.4 , i can't : underline italics work, bold doesn't. in OO, bold shows on screen with Times New Roman prints with other fonts, eg Georgia. in Kword Abiword, bold shows prints correctly with Times New Roman. my system my printer have never given me serious problems otherwise. does anyone have any observations about this strange font phenomenon ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: console only web browsing
050203 Steven Susbauer wrote: Not sure if lynx supports HTTPS, I've always had problems with it. yes, if you set it up to do so. elinks also has GPM support, which again I'm not sure about in lynx. yes, you can have Lynx use simple mouse clicks. i've always used Lynx when i don't need a GUI browser it has loads of features, if you take the time to find out about them. i realised -- just today -- that you can use its visited-links page to emulate tabs to a certain extent. numbered links are a great device. its one big limitation is lack of any support for Javascript, but often you can extract needed URLs from source-view, esp pretty source. If nothing else, lynx can get you arrested (at least in the UK). then it must be really good ... (big grin) -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: console only web browsing
050204 David Dorward wrote: On two different systems I use: Lynx Version 2.8.5dev.16 (01 Jun 2003) Lynx Version 2.8.4rel.1 (17 Jul 2001) they're rather out-of-date. the latest version is 2.8.6dev.11 IIRC. Lynx version numbers are misleading Gentoo doesn't keep up properly: other projects would call '2.8.6dev.11' '2.9.11' or something like that. the 'dev' versions are usually very stable: i use 2.8.6dev.4 in /usr/local , which never fails: i just haven't recompiled recently. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xfce4 ?
050127 Tony Boom wrote: I've been hearing a lot about xfce and now I have my ATI driver sorted I fancy installing it. What USE flag would anyone suggest and will it mess up KDE? Xfce 4.2rc1 ruined the KDE menu, forcing me to pretend to be a 1st-time user of KDE to get it back. i don't know whether they fixed that bug for 4.2 final, as i decided to use another window manager, which i'm very satisfied with. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
050123 Sven K?hler wrote: can anyone tell me briefly what the difference is between Open Office (vanilla) Open-Office-Ximian ? i'm a long-time user of OO-vanilla compiled in full, but thought i would try something different in hopes of learning. the Ximian WWW site doesn't offer any explanation after emerging both (OO bin , OO-Ximian 4 h 30 m ) all i can see is a different set of buttons in the window. OpenOffice (vanilla) uses QT. Ximian/Novell has rewritten the GUI to use GTK, so if you're a gnome user, than you'd might like to test OO-Ximian. well well ! you learn something everyday ! or several things ... i had no idea it was a QT/Gtk thing. i have enough of KDE installed to run the desktop (i don't usually) enough of Gnome/Gtk to run G-type apps, so it makes no difference here. thanx for the enlightenment. anyone have comments re performance, pros/cons etc ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OO vs OO-Ximian
can anyone tell me briefly what the difference is between Open Office (vanilla) Open-Office-Ximian ? i'm a long-time user of OO-vanilla compiled in full, but thought i would try something different in hopes of learning. the Ximian WWW site doesn't offer any explanation after emerging both (OO bin , OO-Ximian 4 h 30 m ) all i can see is a different set of buttons in the window. is there perhaps a doc or an URL which gives more details ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-desktop] stop xscreensaver temporarily
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 05:53:43PM +0800, ZeeGeek wrote: sometimes I read books on my laptop, and it's just annoying to have the xscreensaver blank the screen every few minutes without moving the mouse or keyboard. so I wanna stop xscreensaver when I start reading and get it back on when I finish, is there a way to do so? maybe i don't understand, but if you run 'xscreensaver-demo', there is an option under 'file' to kill the daemon; when you want to restart it do 'x-d' again it will ask. that's what i do when i leave my machine unattended switch off the monitor -- mine's a desktop, not a laptop -- to save CPU effort. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mail client
050115 Covington, Chris wrote: Joking aside, I think mutt is a better client in many respects, but pine can do the job, if the circumstances are favourable I grew up on pine and I gave mutt a shot a few months ago and aside from the totally different keyboard shortcuts mutt wasn't able to render html the way pine does, so the majority of emails which I received looked very strange. Is it possible to have mutt render html? you can add 'text/html; lynx -force_html %s' to ~/.mailcap . then use 'v' in Mutt to call up a list of parts of the e-mail when you hit 'Return' on an HTML item, it will open with Lynx. Though it's definitely the most hardcore email client out there Mutt is for real men of both sexes (grin). i've used it for years -- on Irix before Linux -- have never found a reason to go over to a GUI. it's a pity no-one has created a GUI front-end for Mutt like Gvim for Vim, ie keeping all Mutt's key commands simplicity, but adding a few GUI capabilities like opening 1 window, mouse-scrolling. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] find + ls + grep + cp + CLI + Bash madness
050114 Ow Mun Heng wrote: I'm trying to move a bunch of PDFs which has the words gentoo in it into a folder marked as Gentoo/ and somehow I'm not succedding. ... 'Cyrus Imapd-Gentoo.pdf' 'Gentoo Linux rsync Mirrors Policy.pdf' 'Gentoo chroot.pdf' others have offered ways to solve your immediate problem, but the real solution is not to insert spaces into file or directory names: experienced users of UNIX-type systems use an underline '_' instead. there are utilities for renaming files/dirs en masse, eg 'rename' 'krename'. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] THE .muttrc color definition set
050108 Grant wrote: I just plugged in a set of color definitions for the .muttrc file it sure is cool. Can anyone point me toward their favorite? running on Konsole with a normally white background, i have : color normal black default color message black default color error red default color indicator red default color status cyan default color index blue default ~A color index green default ~U color index black default ~D -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmerge Xfce4 (totally)
050105 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
05 Jan 2005 10:06:10 +0800 Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 20:01, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Meh, please don't use Blackbox, I keep on plotting
So.. is that how things work, devoloper wise??
When it comes to ugly unmaintained broken things
certainly not my version
that no-one ones to go within a hundred feet of, yes.
? still hung over from New Year ?
i doubt if anyone is taking you seriously, but for users' interest
Brian Hughes of Trolltech, who seems to be the Blackbox maintainer,
has just announced version 0.70beta3 with rc1 promised shortly.
i recommend anyone who wants a lightweight WM to look at Blackbox:
it starts up in c 5 sec does everything you'll need,
if you include some of the add-ons which are in Portage.
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Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update difficult?
050105 Rick Lapp wrote: Is it me or does anyone else find etc-update difficult to do more than just Replace original with update. I find the interactive menu not friendly at all. man etc-update is of no help either. Any suggestions? you are using Gvim to show/edit the diffs, aren't you ... ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update difficult?
050105 Rick Lapp wrote: On Wednesday 05 January 2005 09:06 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 050105 Rick Lapp wrote: Is it me or does anyone else find etc-update difficult to do more than just Replace original with update. I find the interactive menu not friendly at all. man etc-update is of no help either. Any suggestions? you are using Gvim to show/edit the diffs, aren't you ... ? No, tell me more about Gvim? fix /etc/etc-update.conf so it reads : # pager for use with diff commands (see NOTE_2) # pager=less pager= # vim-users: you CAN use vimdiff for diff_command. (see NOTE_1) # diff_command=diff -uN %file1 %file2 # using_editor=0 diff_command=gvim -d %file1 %file2 using_editor=1 # vim-users: don't use vimdiff for merging (see NOTE_1) merge_command=sdiff -s -o %merged %orig %new of course, you need to have (G)Vim installed on your system. this will show the diffs in 2 nice vertical panels, which you can edit to your taste, if something is customised, or simply check through if not. it reappears for each file choice. when you're satisfied, you exit Gvim enter '-1' (etc) as otherwise. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Greetings from a possible new user!
040226 Alejandro Escalante Medina wrote: First of all, let me congratulate the developers of what seems to be the most exciting linux distribution nowdays. yes, it is let's all of us repeat our thanx to the volunteer developers. I'm a Linux user from long time ago, when I started with Yggdrasil and Slackware and kernel hadn't even reached version 1. well, you shdn't have any problems w Gentoo (grin). I am a knowledgeable linux user, but I don't have too much spare time to fiddle with a distribution that's too harsh on the user. Gentoo is not harsh on the user -- it's v elegantly organised -- once you've got it installed sensibly, you don't need to fiddle w it. Gentoo's configurability, abundance of packages and the possibility of staying v upto date seems v attractive to me. yes, all that it really is a meta-distro, so you install what you want keep it as upto-date or not as you want. Maybe Gentoo is a nice distro to try kernel 2.6 ;) cb. the one thing you need to do carefully is installing Gentoo: it's not difficult, but you need to read the dox (they're v good) pay attention to each step as you do it; allow a free weekend. then make sure you read the other dox esp how Portage works. after that, you shd have few problems there's lots of friendly advice both here via the huge forum site. of course, it helps to have a reasonably upto-date machine broadband. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: baselayout redefines /etc/fstab
040214 Ed Borasky wrote: purslow at sympatico.ca writes: [snip] well, if you're going to name me, you mt quote = 1 line of what i wrote. Yeah, it's not just baselayout either. I've had /etc/fstab /etc/rc.conf nuked on me a couple of times! Just yesterday, upgrading to KDE 3.2 did it to me. not here i don't see how that cd happen. however, i didn't install all the pieces, eg not 'kdeadmin', so possibly 1 of those mt have done something it shdn't. it belongs u another heading, but KDE 3.2 is not always an improvement. on the topic, i still believe 'baselayout' s~b changing 'fstab', esp when what it offers is basically useless. 'fstab' is one of those files every Gentoo user shd design him/herself maintain by hand in whatever form s/he needs for the h/ware. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE 3.2 : qt 3.3.0 compile error
i just tried to compile KDE 3.2 following an 'emerge sync' got an error during the compile of Qt 3.3.0 : ... /z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.0/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.0/bin/uic -L /z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.0/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.0/plugins listboxeditor.ui -i listboxeditor.h -o listboxeditor.cpp /z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.0/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.0/bin/uic: relocation error: /z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.0/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.0/bin/uic: undefined symbol: _ZNK7QString3argExii make[3]: *** [listboxeditor.cpp] Error 127 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[3]: Leaving directory `/z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.0/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.0/tools/designer/designer' make[2]: *** [sub-designer] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.0/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.0/tools/designer' make[1]: *** [sub-designer] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/z/tmp/portage/qt-3.3.0/work/qt-x11-free-3.3.0/tools' make: *** [sub-tools] Error 2 !!! ERROR: x11-libs/qt-3.3.0 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 89, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE 3.2 : simple question
this is rather elementary, but i need to learn. when i ask 'emerge -p kde' (to get the new 3.2.0 ), it tells me : [blocks B ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.4 (from pkg x11-libs/qt-3.2.3-r1) but when i ask 'emerge -p kdelibs' or 'emerge -p qt', i get the same. 'man emerge' says such conflicting pkgs may not need both to be emerged. in fact, there's no sign of 3.1.4 in /usr/portage/distfiles 'emerge -p unmerge kdelibs' gives : These are the packages that I would unmerge: kde-base/kdelibs selected: 3.1.3-r1 ie the version i've been using from my install'n CD . 'esearch qt' tells me i have 3.1.2-r4 installed. is there possibly something wrong w the ebuild ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] debug script
040208 Norbert Kamenicky wrote: Paul Stear wrote: bash -x script that's just what I was looking for. Where did you find it? I thought I had checked all docs, perhaps I was asleep I learned it some years ago probably from man sh on another unix. If u can't find it in man bash it's probably because programmers commonly hate to write/update manuals :-(. Sometimes it's worth to read/compare manuals on another unix systems. Some of them are really fine and web accessible. yes, it's remarkable: it's not listed by 'man bash'; if you seek help via 'bash --help', then 'bash -c help set', it is listed. i have it in my home-made distill'n of 'man bash', but i've no record where/when i heard re it: prob'ly on Mandrake User judging by the 'last altered' date on the file. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE etc: Nvidia depends
when i try 'emerge -p kde' for several other packages, among the list of dependencies are : [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.4496-r3 [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.4496 i can't get the Nvidia drivers to work w my mobo -- it doesn't (yet) support the VIA KT400 chip -- , so i rely on software acceler'n have unmerged those 2 packages. can i safely add them to /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask ? why indeed are they listed as dependencies ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] KDE etc: Nvidia depends
040206 Marc Redmann wrote: -- it doesn't (yet) support the VIA KT400 chip -- , are you sure, that nvidia drivers don't work with via kt400, i am running this combination here without any problems so far. please tell me all your details ! if you look in the Nvidia README Appx F , it doesn't list KT400 . i have tried to get 4496 5328 5336 working w/o success : yes, yes yes, i tried all the usually recommended things, but X refuses to start, so i assume it's the KT400 chip. my system is : processor: AMD XP 2500+ Barton motherboard model: Soyo Dragon Ultra Black video card: ASUS V9180 video BIOS revision: GeForce4 MX440 AGP 8x AGP chipset: Via VT8377 KT400 driver version: 4496 [5328 5336] anyway, my question was re KDE depends ... -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: email harassment
040206 Andrew Gaffney wrote: I know this is a bit OT, but I've got a question. My stepmom's sister has been getting some creepy and/or stalkerish emails from someone with the email address '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. This person knows what her daughters and her car look like. What can she do? Should she report it to the police? yes, definitely, without any delay ! this type of thing can get deadly if left unattended to. Can they do anything without knowing who it is? it depends a lot on where she lives: police vary in skill funding. Would contacting MSN/Hotmail do any good? she could do that as well, but the police would get action more quickly. anyway, tell her to take it very seriously get the police after him. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need some advice on to switch from mandrake to gentoo.
040207 Grendel wrote: I need some advice about switchin from mandrake 9.1 to gentoo. My setup is this, Athlon 3000xp with Asus a7n8x motherboard i did something v similar 0310 was surprised how easy it was. Gentoo has excellent dox is much more user-friendly than its reput'n there's a v friendly community of developers/users. you do have to pay attention to what you're doing, of course. My 80gb disk is partioned in to / and /home, I would like to keep /home. copy /home to CD re-install it: surely, that's simplest. I have downloaded the athlon-xp optimised 2 live cd's. just what i did. My nvnet nforce2 ethernet is automatically detected by the live cd1, so I have everything working. you don't need the Internet to install Gentoo, if you use GRP. Now since this is for my workstation, I would like to get it up and running fast, so I have some questions. 1. Can I install using the 2 live'cds and then upgrade later to the recent sources? yes, that's what i did. 2. How long will it take to get a running KDE set up w the live cd's. a few minutes or less: use the compiled version on CD 2 . i'm still using that version, while i wait for KDE 3.2 to become reliable. i use Konqueror as my regular browser, but XFCE as desktop. 3. I have a broadband connection so large downloads are not a problem. that's important once you have a running system want to update things. with similar h/ware I/net connection to yours, i downloaded/compiled/installed OpenOffice 1.1 in c 5 h 30 m this wk ditto KOffice 1.3 in 1 h 16 m . obviously, you do it on a spare desktop while you get on w other things. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unneeded check of Reiser filesystems
040205 Michele Alzetta wrote: Il Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:57:09 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] scrisse: whenever i reboot my machine after a clean shutdown, i get a series of lines: Checking all filesystems ... the whole set of checks takes c 25 sec out of a boot time of c 90 sec . surely, if the partitions were cleanly unmounted (as acknowledged above), there sb no need to check any of them. Just change 0 1 or 0 2 or whatever you have in /etc/fstab for those partitions to 0 0, and no more unneeded checking will go on. yes, thanx, sorry not to have recalled it from my cranial storehouse: it's all there in 'man fstab'. however, to save me doing a test, if i change all the final cols to '0', will it still check when the partitions have not been cleanly unmounted ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.2
040204 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:28:22 +0200 Leonid Podolny Yes, but it's at ~x86 Yes, and it will follow the usual procedure for ~x86 - x86. which is ... ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] unneeded check of Reiser filesystems
whenever i reboot my machine after a clean shutdown, i get a series of lines: Checking all filesystems ... cleanly unmounted ... 0 transactions replayed ... checking internal tree ... these refer to my Reiser partitions, which are operating faultlessly. the whole set of checks takes c 25 sec out of a boot time of c 90 sec . surely, if the partitions were cleanly unmounted (as acknowledged above), there sb no need to check any of them. there was a query re this back around December (it's in my archive) the response was to re-emerge 'baselayout', as it contained a bug. i have done that re-emerged 'reiserfsprogs', but nothing has changed. is this a feature, a misconfiguration or a bug ? can anyone suggest a remedy ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grep rotated-log ?
040203 raptor wrote: is there a easy way to grep rotated logs... when they are gziped... I mean a quick way.. i.e. ready console tool.. 'man zgrep'. my logs are bz2'd , so i can't test it. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eating crow
040111 Chris wrote: El Jueves, 8 de Enero de 2004 20:59, Thomas Buntrock escribi??ªÐ: Is there a way to restore the winXP boot sector without reinstalling xp? I hate to say it, but I think we've been trolled. my apologies for lowering the signal-to-noise ratio of this forum. being new to mailing lists and having a lot to learn i have to ask. what did you mean by: Collins, I hate to say it, but I think we've been trolled i too had to ask that once on another mailing-list. apparently on some popular (bad sense) fora, there are teen types who get their jollies by starting flame-wars: eg hey guys, i've been having so much trouble, i've gone back to M$. among grown-ups, the sensible response is simply to ignore them or if there's a chance they are genuinely naive, offer a helpful answer. hopefully, Gentoo lists are patronised by adults -- attitude, not age -- , who shd react to the inquiry above as i did, ie that it's a genuine problem someone has had, but not really something to ask Gentoo users to help with. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slocate doesn't release memory
031226 Jason Stubbs wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: when i run 'slocate' as a cron job or via CLI, it raises net memory usage from c 60 MB to c 200 MB leaves it there (ie 'used +/- buffers/cache' in 'free'). exiting X makes no difference, but rebooting (naturally) restores the memory figure to the previous level. i've checked the forum (search 'slocate') w/o finding any mention. i am using the most updo-date version of 'slocate', ie 2.7-r2 . i have 512 MB DDR400 memory an Athlon XP 2500+ processor. I can't tell from your original post, but are you implying slocate never terminates? sorry if it wasn't clear, but exiting X surely implies it has terminated. yes, 'slocate' has terminated (the cron job just ran after today's start-up): root: purslow ps -A | grep 'slocate' root: purslow and i did read thro' the full listing from 'ps -A'. When a process exits, any resources it had allocated are automatically returned to the kernel. exactly! that's why there is a problem here! it's not happening! I would say that the used memory is purely due to disk cache. I'm not sure what the 'calculation' above is meant to mean - 'used + buffers - cache'? well, if i do 'free', i get : root: purslow free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 502492 10 0179117 -/+ buffers/cache:194308 Swap: 611 0611 the 1st figure in the 2nd row is the one i'm referring to: before 'slocate' runs, it is 61 ; after it has finished, it is 194 ; while 'slocate' is running, repeating 'free' shows a steady increase. i know that the 5th 6th figures on the 1st row are less important that Linux will re-use that space when it is needed for something else. those 3 figures add up to the 2nd figure on the 1st row, ie 492 . thanx for the initial responses, but now that the problem sb clearer, does anyone have any explanation of what mb going wrong ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] slocate doesn't release memory
when i run 'slocate' as a cron job or via CLI, it raises net memory usage from c 60 MB to c 200 MB leaves it there (ie 'used +/- buffers/cache' in 'free'). exiting X makes no difference, but rebooting (naturally) restores the memory figure to the previous level. i've checked the forum (search 'slocate') w/o finding any mention. i am using the most updo-date version of 'slocate', ie 2.7-r2 . i have 512 MB DDR400 memory an Athlon XP 2500+ processor. has anyone else encountered this ? any suggestions for preventing it ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] again: rp-pppoe
031210 Oliver Lange wrote:
I just emerged rp-pppoe, but i can't get it running.
After adsl-setup, running 'adsl-start' just hangs
(tries to connect but tons of dots appear).
that happens when the distant ADSL server is down: are you sure it's up ?
When i run 'adsl-setup' and 'adsl-start' from the gentoo LiveCD,
everything works fine, but not if i boot from my installed gentoo system,
so my best guess is that my kernel config is wrong somewhere.
always try the simple things first: do you have a proper 'adsl' script ?
my note on ADSL says to create a script 'adsl':
# /etc/init.d/adsl
#
# Script to initialise the adsl connection
depend () {
need net.eth0 # Or whichever device needed for modem
}
start () {
adsl-start
}
stop () {
adsl-stop
}
then to chmod +x execute :
rc-update add adsl default
HTH a bit
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[gentoo-user] Nvidia problem: test results
thanx for the responses to my query yesterday (repeated below). i also had a look at the Nvidia Linux forum, which was depressing: 12 screens of msgs revealed 3 - 4 users w my problem (or close), but no-one w any clue what mb wrong! based on that better help here, i've tried some things out as systematically as i cd. (1) 'modprobe nvidia' does seem to make some difference: it creates the /dev/proc/driver/nvidia entries, but can cause a problem if 'Option NvAGP n' has an inappropriate value. (2) leaving the 'nv' driver in XF86Config simply ignores the Nvidia stuff. (3) adding 'mem=nopentium' to the boot line in Lilo achieves nothing: this was mentioned twice (at least) on the hopeless N-L forum. (4) changing BIOS settings made no difference: i have a Soyo Dragon Ultra, which allows increasing the 'AGP driving value' enabling 'DBI output for AGP trans' w an 8x card like mine (at least nothing blew up). (5) setting 'Option NvAGP 2' in XF86Config got a line in the log file 'failed to verify AGP usage' (i kept all the X log files, properly numbered). (6) setting that to 0 or omitting it while not issuing 'modprobe nvidia' got furthest allowed me to get a vivid picture of what's happening: w both KDE (a session w lots running) XFCE (my everyday preference), i was able to get 'top' started, enter 'P' (to order by CPU use) also get Gkrellm going: X is fluctuating wildly every few seconds -- varying 0 - 30 - 99 % CPU -- , while 'eth0' is also doing a lot (?!): on XFCE i had nothing else running (KDE had a number of things), but Eth0, wh sb the mobo I/net connection, was fluctuating too roughly at those times when the CPU was quiet. however, after a couple of minutes both stalled, presumably w CPU = 100 % . so does anyone have any further thoughts or suggestions ? i've got adequate 3D rendering, eg for Xscreensaver, via CPU software, but it does heat up the CPU, wh i'ld rather avoid. is there any hope that things mt improve w the arrival of production 2.6 ? 031206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been trying to get hardware graphics acceleration working. i've read the dox looked at the more obvious things (i hope). my graphics card is 'GeForce4 MX440 w AGP 8x'. i tried using Gentoo's emerges 'nvidia-kernel' 'nvidia-glx'; in XF86Config, i commented 'load dri' changed to 'Driver nvidia'; i also did 'opengl-update nvidia' 'modprobe nvidia'. 'startx' started KDE, but once started it became very slow, then stopped. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Nvidia acceleration problem
i've been trying to get hardware graphics acceleration working. i've read the dox looked at the more obvious things (i hope). my graphics card is 'GeForce4 MX440 w AGP 8x'. first, i tried using Gentoo's emerges 'nvidia-kernel' 'nvidia-glx'; in XF86Config, i commented 'load dri' changed to 'Driver nvidia'; i also did 'opengl-update nvidia' 'modprobe nvidia'. 'startx' started KDE, but once started it became very slow, then stopped. second, i tried using Nvidia's own 'run' file; X wouldn't start at all. 3 things seem to be wrong. (1) the Gentoo approach doesn't create the correct libs: there's a list in the Nvidia README most of them aren't where they sb: eg /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so.x.y.z is missing ditto/libglx.so - /usr/lib/opengl/nvidia/extensions/libglx.so , not to ditto/libglx.so.x.y.z , as the Nvidia doc says it shd; similarly for /usr/lib/libGL.so.x.y.zditto/libGLcore.ditto . they are correctly in place after the Nvidia 'run' file is used. (2) the Nvidia README says installation shd create files in /dev , ie nvidia0 1 2 3 ctl , which weren't there with either method of install'n. (3) /var/log/XFree86.0.log says module(s) glx/nvidia compiled for 4.0.2, whereas all the other modules loaded were compiled for 4.3.0 . back with my usual working system (software acceler'n), modules 'glx' 'nv' are compiled for 4.3.0 . the log does claim that AGP 8x was successfully initialised. problem (1) seems to be with Gentoo's ebuilds; (2) mb with something like devfs, which i've never had to look into; (3) may mean i need to compile the modules specially myself: i've never compiled a kernel or module explicitly (Nvidia's 'run' compiled the interface this time), but i'm always willing to learn to do new things. any suggestions wb most gratefully received. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] nvidia 3D problem
i have a nicely working Gentoo system (XP 2500+ , nVidia GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x ). i'ld like to get 3D acceleration working, insofar as it's not now. actually, i'm not sure whether this will improve the look of 3D graphics or merely make more efficient use of my hardware. following a recent thread here, i did the following: emerge nvidia-glx (also merges nvidia-kernel ) comment 'Load dri' in XF86Config replace 'Driver nv' there with 'Driver nvidia' reboot as root, enter 'modprobe nvidia' (it says 'loaded but tainted') as user, start XFCE or KDE the normal way both start w the Nvidia splash screen, but are slow, erratic finally everything freezes. restoring the previous XF86Config, all is ok again. ordinarily when Xscreensaver starts, there mb a line 'dri missing from kernel (or :0.0 ? )' at top of screen: might this be relevant ? i've read thro' the Gentoo 'dri' howto file, which advises recompiling the kernel, which i've not done before. a search of Gentoo Forum with 'nvidia' reveals nothing sensible. does anyone have any suggestions ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia 3D problem
031129 Brett I. Holcomb wrote: 031129 Philip Webb wrote: i have a nicely working Gentoo system (XP 2500+ , nVidia GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x ). i'ld like to get 3D acceleration working, insofar as it's not now. following a recent thread here, i did the following: emerge nvidia-glx (also merges nvidia-kernel ) comment 'Load dri' in XF86Config replace 'Driver nv' there with 'Driver nvidia' reboot as root, enter 'modprobe nvidia' (it says 'loaded but tainted') as user, start XFCE or KDE the normal way both start w the Nvidia splash screen, but are slow, erratic finally everything freezes. does anyone have any suggestions ? Check the Nvidia docs for what you need in XF86Config. which Nvidia docs are you referring to ? i've looked at the Nvidia site, which is enormous, w/o seeing anything useful. 'man nvidia' 'man nvidia-glx' get nothing (no surprise). there is an extensive README in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-stuff , which i will look thro': is that what you meant ? Then try running opengl-update nvidia. isn't that supposed to be run by the 'nvidia-glx' ebuild ? thanx for your response. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xcdroast slow to start: solved
031128 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a couple of days ago, i got CD-writing working satisfactorily, having emerged xcdroast-0.98_alpha13 , stable for X86 . today, having done nothing special meanwhile except get sensors working, Xcdroast is very slow to start -- 1 m 30 s -- both as user as root; it's a real puzzle, as there's no CPU activity showing this box is fast. i had this problem on an earlier machine (Mandrake 9.0) have forgotten the explanation whether/how far it got fixed. generally, Xcdroast is a good enough front-end to Cdrecord etc before i try eg K3b as an alternative, can anyone suggest a solution ? sorry to reply to myself, but a medium-length visit to Forum gave an answer. the problem seems to be that if there's no CD in the drive, a probe is done to determine whether the drive is indeed RW, which takes a very long time. w a CD in the drive, Xcdroast starts at once. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS
031128 Vano Beridze wrote: I have AMD Athlon XP 2400+, 1GB RAM I installed gentoo from stage 1 (took 1 day) What a surprise: On the same machine with RedHat 9 (i386 packages) NetBeans 3.5.1(sun jdk 1.4.2_02) runs faster. I switched to gentoo because I wanted faster and customized system. But If I see that Gentoo does not perform better unfortunately I will have to try Fedora :( Please help me to stay i have a similar machine no complaints re sloth. the idea of Gentoo is not so much to maximise program performance as to give the user his/her own custom system, ie a meta-distribution. a/a RH you get the advantages of Portage vs RPM you install just what you want, not 2,5 GB pgms you never use; also, the method of managing services etc is much more elegant dox are generally comprehensive very well-written; there's also a large, knowledgeable friendly gang of users Worldwide w an excellent Forum as well as this mailing-list. just see what Linux Weekly News had to say last week! -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] gkrellm 1 vs gkrellm 2
i've just got sensors working in Gkrellm. all seems to be correct, but 'gkrellm-sensors' requires 'gkrellm-1.x', not 'gkrellm-2.x'. can anyone explain why the sensors don't work w the later version ? what are the main differences between the versions ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gkrellm 1 vs gkrellm 2
031128 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:40:31 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've just got sensors working in Gkrellm. all seems to be correct, but 'gkrellm-sensors' requires 'gkrellm-1.x', not 'gkrellm-2.x'. can anyone explain why the sensors don't work w the later version ? what are the main differences between the versions ? gkrellm2 has support for sensors built in. thanx to Peter Ruskin. i bit more poking around shows it does indeed. however, there doesn't seem to be any way of changing the location, which is in the middle of the display (unlike Gkrellm 1 , which asks). is this the only major difference between versions? i'm inclined to stick with '1' from what i see so far. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] xcdroast slow to start
a couple of days ago, i got CD-writing working satisfactorily, having emerged xcdroast-0.98_alpha13 , stable for X86 . today, having done nothing special meanwhile except get sensors working, Xcdroast is very slow to start -- 1 m 30 s -- both as user as root; it's a real puzzle, as there's no CPU activity showing this box is fast. i had this problem on an earlier machine (Mandrake 9.0) have forgotten the explanation whether/how far it got fixed. generally, Xcdroast is a good enough front-end to Cdrecord etc before i try eg K3b as an alternative, can anyone suggest a solution ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dependency tree
031126 Adrian Pirciu wrote: I just merged gnome2, that means about 20 packets. I tested it and now I want to remove all this packages, but an emerge --unmerge gnome only removes the gnome package. How can i find a dependency tree or something, so that I can find out which packages are needed by gnome, but not needed by any other package, so I can safely delete all the ununsed packages I have now installed. look thro' /var/log/emerge.log , which lists everything you have emerged, incl dependencies. it will show what was emerged for Gnome, which you can remove, then you can check via 'emerge -p packagename' to see whether any subsequent emerges used any of the dependences, when you can re-emerge them as still needed. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] loading modules at boot
i've never been clear re the difference between loading a kernel module during a session loading it at boot time. 'modprobe modulename' loads it during a session AFAIK, but how do i ensure it gets loaded the next time i boot ? i've looked thro' various man pages checked in /etc , but it's not clear. the specific question is getting CD-writing to work. i've just got it working this session after adding 'append hdc=ide-scsi' to the stanza in lilo.conf , but after a reboot (due to a separate problem now resolved) i had to reissue the command 'modprobe ide-scsi'. should i add 'ide-scsi' to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4 ? what is the proper command or procedure to get a module loaded at boot time ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] security: unwanted daemons
031122 Andrew Gaffney wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i installed Gentoo 031015 am very pleased with it, but still learning. there are 4 daemons in /etc/init.d for remote access to my box: sshd slapd slurpd rsyncd . i've checked their man pages all appear to be running as servers for things i don't need or want. two questions: am i correct that i can remove these scripts from init.d without interfering with the ordinary functioning of my system ? and why are they set up by default on a Gentoo system, when they cd cause a security problem for a naive -- mb me -- user ? and perhaps a 3rd question: are there any other similar items in init.d ? Just because they are in /etc/init.d does not mean that they are running. They are only running if *you* did 'rc-update add service default'. yes, sorry for the rather naive question: i knew re runlevels , but hadn't remembered re init.d . You can double check this by running 'rc-status'. If they are not in the list, then they don't start by default. rc-status bash: rc-status: command not found don't you have to do it per daemon, eg '.../adsl status' ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'
031121 Andrew Gaffney wrote: 'emerge depclean' is bad and evil and should not be used. Plain old 'depclean' (comes with gentoolkit) is a much better tool that sb 'dep-clean' (smile). the output on my system is a bit strange: There appears to be an unresolved dependency in your world file. Please check for masking errors or other world file issues then try again. The following is the emerge output for your reference: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =app-cdr/xcdroast-0.98_alpha14-r2 have been masked. !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct. i have dropped USE=~x86 since emerging some things, which may confuse it: 'emerge -p xcdroast' wd cause a downgrade. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoos (OT)
031118 mathieu perrenoud wrote: All answers about gentoo ;-) http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Peter_and_Barbara_Barham/gentoo.htm more pictures: http://images.google.com/images?q=gentoo+-linux great! i sent the URLs to my ornithologist friend (who doesn't know Linux). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] strange responses from Gentoo-User
[ i got 3 of these strange messages today re items i sent to Gentoo-User. NB the comment misconfigured sender on the 5th Received line. it is possible i forgot to suppress my 'Reply-to' header, if that helps. does anyone have any explanation for this? 'Lincolnbaxter' is unknown to me ] - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: 22 Nov 2003 13:08:22 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: failure notice Hi. This is the qmail-send program at lincolnbaxter.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 6711 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2003 13:08:22 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 6198 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2003 13:01:42 - Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Nov 2003 13:01:42 - Received: from mail.comcast.net by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.3) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (multi-drop); Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org[204.126.2.42](misconfigured sender)) by rwcrmxc13.comcast.net (rwcrmxc13) with SMTP id 20031122091433r1300jhutle; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:14:34 + X-Originating-IP: [204.126.2.42] Received: (qmail 19446 invoked by uid 1002); 22 Nov 2003 09:14:29 - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail gentoo-user.gentoo.org Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 6827 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2003 09:14:29 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:14:28 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoos (OT) X-Fetchmail-Warning: recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED] didn't match any local name 031118 mathieu perrenoud wrote: All answers about gentoo ;-) http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Peter_and_Barbara_Barham/gentoo.htm more pictures: http://images.google.com/images?q=gentoo+-linux great! i sent the URLs to my ornithologist friend (who doesn't know Linux). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list - End forwarded message - -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
031120 Martin Horak wrote: how you find package by name of the file it contains? I can list files only in packages, which are already installed. Is it possible to see what files WILL BE installed by emerge something? For example /sbin/ip - finally I found it in iproute package, but only by chance. Does exist some utility or search engine for this? Now I'm seeking the host utility. 'qpkg -f /sbin/ip' will tell you which package owns it. there doesn't seem to be a way of finding out before installing something. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] security: unwanted daemons
i installed Gentoo 031015 am very pleased with it, but still learning. there are 4 daemons in /etc/init.d for remote access to my box: sshd slapd slurpd rsyncd . i've checked their man pages all appear to be running as servers for things i don't need or want. i do want to use 'ssh', but that's unaffected when i remove 'sshd'. two questions: am i correct that i can remove these scripts from init.d without interfering with the ordinary functioning of my system ? and why are they set up by default on a Gentoo system, when they cd cause a security problem for a naive -- mb me -- user ? and perhaps a 3rd question: are there any other similar items in init.d ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE and rc.conf
031119 Ric Messier wrote: Taking a look at xfce4 just to see whether it's faster and at least as useful as Gnome. will it work in /etc/rc.conf to use with startx or do I need to write a .xinitrc to get xfce to run when I launch X? Or just startxfce4? i start it with 'startxfce4'. NB it's modular, so you may have to start pieces separately (eg taskbar or iconbox). people who know XFCE swear by it (incl me). it has a very good mailing-list, which will tell you all you need. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DeCSS: safe to emerge?
031119 Sumeet Singh Parmar wrote: Is DeCSS ok to emerge or what's the deal? I meant, FBI won't be knocking on my door if I emerged DeCSS? I forget what is the status of that whole we'll-arrest-dvd-on-linux-evil-doers? I wonder if there is an encrypted download somewhere and I could get the keys (how?) - wink wink :) just move to a free country. we welcome refugees of all kinds. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] failed to update time at end of daylight savings time
031112 Ernie Schroder wrote: In /etc/rc.conf, I have set CLOCK=local try CLOCK=UTC : it refers to your system clock. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Galeon 1.3.10 : relocation error
i just updated to Galeon 1.3.10 Mozilla 1.5 (in that order) when i try to start Galeon, i get: purslow: purslow galeon /usr/bin/galeon-bin: relocation error: /usr/bin/galeon-bin: \ undefined symbol: _ZN20NS_ConvertUCS2toUTF8C1ERK9nsAString any suggestions what might be wrong ? i've been using Galeon 1.3.9 with Mozilla 1.4 without any problems. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Galeon 1.3.10 : relocation error
031110 Tom Wesley wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 21:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just updated to Galeon 1.3.10 Mozilla 1.5 (in that order) when i try to start Galeon, i get: purslow: purslow galeon /usr/bin/galeon-bin: relocation error: /usr/bin/galeon-bin: \ undefined symbol: _ZN20NS_ConvertUCS2toUTF8C1ERK9nsAString any suggestions what might be wrong ? i've been using Galeon 1.3.9 with Mozilla 1.4 without any problems. emerge galeon again, the Mozilla upgrade has it confused. thanx for your reply, but still no joy, even after unmerging it: root: purslow emerge galeon ... * you need mozilla-1.3+ compiled against gtk+-2 * export USE=gtk2 ;emerge mozilla -p !!! ERROR: net-www/galeon-1.3.10 failed. !!! Function pkg_setup, Line 42, Exitcode 0 !!! Need Mozilla compiled with gtk+-2.0!! root: purslow emerge -p gtk+ These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3 [4.3.0-r2] [ebuild U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.4-r1 [2.2.1-r1] what's the next step? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Galeon 1.3.10 : relocation error
031110 Tom Wesley wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 22:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 031110 Tom Wesley wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 21:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just updated to Galeon 1.3.10 Mozilla 1.5 (in that order) when i try to start Galeon, i get: purslow: purslow galeon /usr/bin/galeon-bin: relocation error: /usr/bin/galeon-bin: \ undefined symbol: _ZN20NS_ConvertUCS2toUTF8C1ERK9nsAString any suggestions what might be wrong ? i've been using Galeon 1.3.9 with Mozilla 1.4 without any problems. emerge galeon again, the Mozilla upgrade has it confused. thanx for your reply, but still no joy, even after unmerging it: root: purslow emerge galeon ... * you need mozilla-1.3+ compiled against gtk+-2 * export USE=gtk2 ;emerge mozilla -p !!! ERROR: net-www/galeon-1.3.10 failed. !!! Function pkg_setup, Line 42, Exitcode 0 !!! Need Mozilla compiled with gtk+-2.0!! root: purslow emerge -p gtk+ These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3 [4.3.0-r2] [ebuild U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.4-r1 [2.2.1-r1] have you done an `emerge sync` recently? I think there was a problem with the ebuild checking for 1.5 betas, but that was fixed weeks back... yes, a few days ago. Mozilla 1.5 Mozilla-Firebird 0.7 seem to be ok. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Galeon 1.3.10 : relocation error
031110 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: root: purslow emerge galeon ... * you need mozilla-1.3+ compiled against gtk+-2 * export USE=gtk2 ;emerge mozilla -p !!! ERROR: net-www/galeon-1.3.10 failed. !!! Function pkg_setup, Line 42, Exitcode 0 !!! Need Mozilla compiled with gtk+-2.0!! there's a forum item re Mozilla 1.5 (nothing re Galeon), which recommends the cmd 'USE=gtk emerge mozilla'. i'm currently trying that -- it's compiling -- will report results. it makes sense, as Galeon is Gnome-oriented, but Mozilla is neutral. BTW Konqueror 3.1.3 is a hot competitor w my usual favorite Galeon, as i was reminded when using it to look up Gentoo forum (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Galeon 1.3.10 : relocation error: solved
031110 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's a forum item re Mozilla 1.5 (nothing re Galeon), which recommends the cmd 'USE=gtk emerge mozilla'. i'm currently trying that -- it's compiling -- will report results. it makes sense, as Galeon is Gnome-oriented, but Mozilla is neutral. yes, what was in fact needed was 'USE=gtk2 emerge mozilla'. ^ after that, Galeon compiled properly opens as usual. i haven't given it any further test so far. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] qt3.2.2 upgrade issues?
031108 Andrej Kacian wrote: 8 Nov 2003 Alberto Garcia Hierro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Sábado, 8 de Noviembre de 2003 18:45, Chris Bare escribió: I just did an emerge -up world and see: qt-3.2.2-r1 [qt-3.1.2-r4] I was just curious if anyone has had any problems with this. I've just upgraded and almost everything seems ok. I've upgraded too, without problems. Fonts are unchanged here (i686). i'm not sure if this is relevant (this isn't a 'world'), but i get: root: purslow emerge -p qt These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.4 (from pkg x11-libs/qt-3.2.2) [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-3.2.2 [3.1.2-r4] root: purslow emerge -p kdelibs These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] kde-base/kde-env-3-r2 [ebuild U ] kde-base/arts-1.1.4 [1.1.3] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.4 [3.1.3-r1] this is qt-3.2.2 , not qt-3.2.2-r1 (as CB wrote). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I did it...almost
On Sunday 26 October 2003 14:36, Kwame Opam wrote: Well, it took me all weekend, but I finally have Gentoo running. you sound as if you feel like i did a couple of weeks ago: it must be how women feel when they have babies (grin)! yes, if you have a reasonably fast machine broadband, do a Stage 3 install follow instructions, Gentoo is as easy as Mandrake. is it possible to get CUPS running after an install or do you have to do that during one? to get any daemon running, first emerge the package, then eg 'rc-update add cupsd default'; you can start it w/o rebooting by '/etc/init.d/cupsd start'. there's a good Gentoo printing doc. generally, Gentoo is easier to manage than binary distros, as it sets things up elegantly leaves the user with real control: it tries to avoid making assumptions on the user's behalf. it's a good idea to browse thro' /etc to see how Gentoo does things. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How many of you are 100% Linux?
031021 Tyler Cunningham wrote: sadly Windows will remain as widly used as it is for = 2 yr more. so many people buy their computers from makers like Dell and just use it for email, internet, word processing and video games. Until major PC makers decide to start selling PCs with Linux pre-installed, the majority just aren't going to use it. exactly: most people decide to buy a new computer accept whatever OS they find in it, which today is nearly always M$. it won't be long, however, before the salesman tells them: We've got this one with the latest Windows 2005 for CAD 900 there's this other one with Linux for CAD 600 ... . that's when baron Bill's goose wb finally cooked. Mandrake is the closest to the perfect desktop distro for new users. once they reach 10 they'll have all the little bugs quirks worked out no, they'll replace the 9.2 bugs'n'quirks with 10.0 bugs'n'quirks, just as they've been doing since 6.1 (smile). i'm a 100 % Linux user. i suffered from govt cuts 1996-9 was forced to rely on my trusty XT + a university IRIX system missed the whole Windows 95 revolution. as soon as i could afford it, i built a fairly upto-date machine, installed Win98 + Office2000, which i never used, almost at once installed Mandrake 6.2 , which did everything i was used to on the XT + IRIX more. later, i updated to Mdk 8.2 , then 9.0 . during the past summer, i built another much faster machine would have installed Mdk 9.2 , but they no longer publish it on the I/net right away. so faced with a 6 wk wait having broadband a hi-speed machine, i decided to have a go at Gentoo, which proved very easy to install has the extra advantage that i have just those items i really want, not 2 K packages taking up 2,5 GB with things i never use. XFCE 4.0 won't be included in Mdk 9.2 OO 1.1 only just made it: i have both compiled for my own hardware. Gentoo Linux is the future! -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SMTP mail client opinions/preferences
031022 someone wrote: I'm finally getting an SMTP email account versus my Yahoo web mail. does anyone one have any recomendations, favorites, likes dis-likes in the available linux mailer clients?? Right now I have Kmail available through KDE. I need a mail client that will support Gnupgp or similar.. everyone else seems to be recommending GUI MUA's, but don't overlook Mutt, which is simple, powerful hi'ly configurable. if you try it, you will need an MTA to actually send your msgs: i use Ssmtp, which is lightweight easy to configure. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] diff program
031020 Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote: Anyone know a diff program that you can skip # lines at the beginning of each files? Googling for diff is about worthless... Gvim has a very good 'splitdiff' facility: look under 'Edit' menu. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x86 installation problem
031018 Andrew Gaffney wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i cdn't boot the Gentoo CD 1 : kernel 2.4.21 doesn't like my hardware, ie Athlon XP 2500+ Soyo mobo (the same thing happened with Mdk 9.1 ). i got install'n to start using Knoppix, tho' that caused another problem when i removed the Knoppix CD to insert the Gentoo CD to copy files Just in case any of us run into this same problem, how did you solve it? there are 4 compressed files which need to be copied. after copying 1 of them, Knoppix became confused, so i rebooted the Knoppix CD, unbz2'd the file copied the next, then repeated the process 3 times till everything was in place. after that, it was possible to pick up from the Gentoo install doc. an alternative wb to install another Linux -- eg Slack/Mdk w dft specs -- , then use that to make appropriate part'ns copy decompress the files. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Has anyone successfully built OO 1.1 (recently unmasked)
031019 Collins Richey wrote: On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 20:58:46 +0200 Timo Boettcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no problem here using GCC 3.2.3 . it took 5 h 45 m , incl download. ordinary ADSL ( c 45 min IIRC), Athlon XP 2500+ , Soyo mobo, 512 MB DDR400. what worried me was that it threatened to run out of HD space, using c 2,5 GB for its temporary files. Are you using reiserfs? of course (grin). 2.5GB weren't near enough for me, 2.7GB neither, it worked with 3.3GB (being a total of 30hours cpu-time) Second the motion. On my ext3 system, in excess of 4gig were required last time I compiled! i built a fast machine w the intention of trying Gentoo i'm pleased to find i seem to have got it right (touch wood etc). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE and Xfree problem
031019 Ernie Schroder wrote: On Sunday 19 October 2003 11:00 am, Ernie Schroder wrote: The easiest way to record all of the output wb to issue the command: # emerge kdegraphics kdegraphics.txt This will write the output to a file in the current directory. There will be no output to the screen. When the command has completed: # cat kdegraphics.txt | more You can move through the file one page at a time by hitting the space bar. you can usually scroll back about 300 lines, one page at a time by pressing shift plus PageUp. you can also read the file as it's being created w the command: tail -f kdegraphics.txt (exit w ^c ). also, there sb a file /var/log/emerge.log w details of all emerges. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Has anyone successfully built OO 1.1 (recently unmasked)
031018 Kevin Miller, Jr. wrote: Check the forums. There was a discussion about this. I did not succeed in compiling it myself. Seems that those who have the newest versions of gcc are having problems. They do have a solution in the forums. no problem here using GCC 3.2.3 . it took 5 h 45 m , incl download. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's preference, Gnome or KDE ?
031018 Hall Stevenson wrote: It's almost a fact that most distros lean towards either Gnome or KDE. I tried KDE a year ago with Debian and was pretty impressed. Then again, this may have been because of Debian's very slow updates to Gnome 2.2. I guess I just wanted something different. I'm now using KDE 3.1.4 and am disappointed... My preferred desktop still seems to be Enlightenment, in fact. :-) So, I'm considering getting rid of KDE and going back to Gnome. What do people think ?? I know it's *my* choice, of course. there are other choices, after all (frown)! those who know it -- incl me -- swear by XFCE, now out as 4.0 . i had no problem emerging it it's running perfectly as i write this. check it out at www.xfce.org/ . -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x86 installation problem
031018 Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) wrote: I can't get my LiveCD to boot. I always get the error: isolinux: Disk error 44, AX=4280, drive 9F. Has anyone got that error before? Does anyone know what it means? I've tried the gentoo and the smp kernel and a bunch of different permutations of the installation options. I have the 1.4 AthlonXP live CD and my system is a dual Athlon MP workstation. i cdn't boot the Gentoo CD 1 : kernel 2.4.21 doesn't like my hardware, ie Athlon XP 2500+ Soyo mobo (the same thing happened with Mdk 9.1 ). i got install'n to start using Knoppix, tho' that caused another problem when i removed the Knoppix CD to insert the Gentoo CD to copy files (how i solved it is another story). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Has anyone successfully built OO 1.1 (recently unmasked)
031018 Andrew Gaffney wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no problem here using GCC 3.2.3 . it took 5 h 45 m , incl download. You must have a very fast connection and a *very* fast computer. ordinary ADSL ( c 45 min IIRC), Athlon XP 2500+ , Soyo mobo, 512 MB DDR400. what worried me was that it threatened to run out of HD space, using c 2,5 GB for its temporary files. i'm looking fwd to KDE 3.2 (grin). is there a way to tell Emerge to use a specific dir for temporary storage? i have a 12 GB part'n specifically intended for that kind of thing, which i have mounted simply as /z . -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Has anyone successfully built OO 1.1 (recently unmasked)
031018 Mike Williams wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 22:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a way to tell Emerge to use a specific dir for temporary storage? i have a 12 GB part'n specifically intended for that kind of thing, which i have mounted simply as /z . Change the PORTAGE_TMPDIR variable in /etc/make.conf thanx: done. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
