Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

+1.  Shoulda read the next post before I replied...


OK Don via Mercedes 
October 19, 2017 at 1:02 PM
It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you 
can't buy

good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
absorbing carbs.
Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .


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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not all bread is created equal.  Certainly grocery store white bread 
(Air and fat) and real bread made with whole grains soaked, cooked or 
sprouted.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
October 19, 2017 at 12:30 PM
Bread is a waistline killer.



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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’ll look and see. The stuff is called “Dave’s”

--R
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> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 21 grains? I bet you can't name half of them.
> 
> Gotta be careful.  It could contain wheat, rye, oats = 99%
> 18 others = 1 %
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Probably most any whole grain/multi-grain.  THe more grains the better.  
>> There's this 21 grain thing I get at Costco, I see it now (for more) at the 
>> grocery store.  I'll get the name of it, has a green wrapper.  It is really 
>> good, esp toasted.
>> 
>> You might look at a bread machine, it takes about 10min to dump stuff in and 
>> turn it on, a coupla hours later you have awesome fresh bread.  They're 
>> cheap too.  You can premix all your dry ingredients to save more time, then 
>> just measure out and add your wet ingredients, then let it do its thing.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/19/17 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to 
>>> buy?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
 good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
 sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
 and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
 absorbing carbs.
 Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
 
 On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Bread is a waistline killer.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dan,
>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
> about
>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
>> Best Wishes,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Surely he dispatched the bird first, plucking a live one would be a serious 
challenge. ;)

Curt

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  On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:49 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:   Our son made and baked his bread while serving in the Peace Corps in 
Malawi
- no running water, no electricity - just a well and a charcoal "cooker"
thing. Basically a Dutch oven arraingement. He didn't see why he should
suffer culinarily - he baked cookies every weekend, learned to pluck and
dress a live bird, etc.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For anybody that thinks its "too hard" I've made it by hand baked in a
> Coleman oven.I regularly bake bread at camp with no running water. Cleanup
> is a PITA but the baking isn't hard. One year it was the only bread my dad
> would eat...
> -Curt
>
>
>    On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 3:23:31 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  On 19/10/2017 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt
> > Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and
> flour get to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
>
> Quite right. My wife routinely makes a nice French bread loaf that
> includes nothing apart from what you list. Very good the first day and
> great toast the next with the left overs.
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Any natural oil or fat is fine so long as you stay within the necessary caloric 
intake limit.  Avoid hydrogenated fats like poison, since in many cases they 
are.  Trans fats are the leading cause of coronary artery disease as far as I 
can tell.
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

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Tin Man sez:

>‎Oil is good, as in... High Fat Low Carb

Olive oil, yes. 
Butter, YES!
Beef tallow, yes
Lard, yes. 
Vegetable oil, not so much.

Please. Watch this Dr.'s videos. 
I'm just regurgitating what she is saying. 

‎https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC61A-gdOvrzm4xGsZPMMuOA

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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

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Our son made and baked his bread while serving in the Peace Corps in Malawi
- no running water, no electricity - just a well and a charcoal "cooker"
thing. Basically a Dutch oven arraingement. He didn't see why he should
suffer culinarily - he baked cookies every weekend, learned to pluck and
dress a live bird, etc.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For anybody that thinks its "too hard" I've made it by hand baked in a
> Coleman oven.I regularly bake bread at camp with no running water. Cleanup
> is a PITA but the baking isn't hard. One year it was the only bread my dad
> would eat...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 3:23:31 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  On 19/10/2017 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt
> > Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and
> flour get to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
>
> Quite right. My wife routinely makes a nice French bread loaf that
> includes nothing apart from what you list. Very good the first day and
> great toast the next with the left overs.
> RB
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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Well, if you are THAT lazy, and can[t plan ahead by a day, read the
ingrediants - no white flour, 100% whole grains.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to
> buy?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't
> buy
> > good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
> > sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
> > and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
> > absorbing carbs.
> > Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Bread is a waistline killer.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dan,
> >>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the
> bread
> >>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it
> also
> >>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
> >> about
> >>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And
> yes
> >>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the
> injected
> >>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
> >>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
> >>> Best Wishes,
> >>> Roger
> >>> Roger Hale
> >>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >>> Monroe, Ga.
> >>> 770-267-0850
> >>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >>>
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> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Either - we do both. The sourdought starter is from the yeast occurring  in
the iar in our house - who knows what it is?
My wifw is now on her second 50 lb. bag of yeast in the last 25 years or so
- we keep it in the freezer, pull out a pound or so when needed. It's MUCH
less expensive this way.

Oil is high calories - which are what really count, not carbs.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> OK Don wrote:
> > Load it up with whole grain flours,
> > sproated if you wish, little to no oil...
>
> Leavening or natural sourdough?
> Oil is good, as in... High Fat Low Carb.
> tin.man
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

OK Don wrote:
> Load it up with whole grain flours,
> sproated if you wish, little to no oil...

Leavening or natural sourdough?
Oil is good, as in... High Fat Low Carb.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎The highest I have gone is less than 50 but most days have been around 25-30.

That's good!

 I went to the cardiologist today and they found nothing from the monitor. I am 
going back in a couple of weeks for a stress test.

More good news!

 The wife thinks I am being overboard on the carb cutting and the cardiologist 
agreed.

You have to remember the government guidelines (Which came about from a panel 
chaired by George McGovern)

‎https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Select_Committee_on_Nutrition_and_Human_Needs

are wrong. Since 1980 obesity has exploded. Low
 Does that mean I can eat some ice cream tonight?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The highest I have gone is less than 50 but most days have been around 25-30. I 
went to the cardiologist today and they found nothing from the monitor. I am 
going back in a couple of weeks for a stress test. The wife thinks I am being 
overboard on the carb cutting and the cardiologist agreed. Does that mean I can 
eat some ice cream tonight?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb sez:
> 
>> ‎If my target is less than 103 per day, then >I should still have plenty of 
>> room in the >carb budget left, correct.
> 
> Yeah. But if you drop that to 25-40, you'll see a big difference.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

We have that in some of our local stores, its in the frozen foods aisle.
Doesn't taste like much, but it is "bread'...

Personally, that's too radical a change for our household, we'd never stick
with that, so I find something with no HFCS and does have multi-grains and
no sugar added, and then just limit the intake.

If I were going to make a sandwich to take to work every day, I'd get a
bread machine to control the ingredients and make sure it tastes like
something I'll eat for the rest of my life.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> ‎https://www.foodforlife.com/product/breads/ezekiel-49-
> flax-sprouted-whole-grain-bread
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎https://www.foodforlife.com/product/breads/ezekiel-49-flax-sprouted-whole-grain-bread

Rick
  Original Message  
From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Max sez:

>‎Find a multi-grain that doesn't have any >high-fructose corn syrup (1st
>filter) and then the lowest added sugar / >sugar carbs that you can find.

Here ya go. 

This is the lowest carb bread I can find. 

‎https://www.foodforlife.com/product/breads/ezekiel-49-flax-sprouted-whole-grain-bread

You can make bread out of almond flour with less carbs, if you want. 

Here. Watch some TV and learn while you're at it. 

‎https://youtu.be/u4DNYdnuWGs

https://youtu.be/BZ5UCBunehE

‎https://youtu.be/E0MzyHl6mc4

https://youtu.be/3fM9o72ykww?list=PL3vlfBRQ9IXhxqKVo7m6shga54jiAL7A1



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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Kaleb sez:

>‎If my target is less than 103 per day, then >I should still have plenty of 
>room in the >carb budget left, correct.

Yeah. But if you drop that to 25-40, you'll see a big difference.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

For anybody that thinks its "too hard" I've made it by hand baked in a Coleman 
oven.I regularly bake bread at camp with no running water. Cleanup is a PITA 
but the baking isn't hard. One year it was the only bread my dad would eat...
-Curt
 

On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 3:23:31 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 19/10/2017 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt
> Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and flour 
> get to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking...
> -Curt
>
>    

Quite right. My wife routinely makes a nice French bread loaf that 
includes nothing apart from what you list. Very good the first day and 
great toast the next with the left overs.
RB

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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 19/10/2017 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt
Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and flour get 
to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking...
-Curt

   


Quite right. My wife routinely makes a nice French bread loaf that 
includes nothing apart from what you list. Very good the first day and 
great toast the next with the left overs.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt
Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and flour get 
to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking...
-Curt

On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 3:15:03 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Kaleb,

Find a multi-grain that doesn't have any high-fructose corn syrup (1st
filter) and then the lowest added sugar / sugar carbs that you can find.
Nature Made is a brand around here that is OK and still very inexpensive.
Rye breads can also be OK.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to
> buy?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I am assuming that if I am shooting for a certain carb number to stay under, 
even if I eat a sandwich with white bread as long as it comes in under that 
target I should be fine. So if a piece of bread is day 13 net carbs and I eat a 
sandwich, depending on what else is on the sandwich we are talking maybe 30 or 
so carbs for that sandwich. If my target is less than 103 per day, then I 
should still have plenty of room in the carb budget left, correct. I think the 
problem would be if you are a ton of bread. Or at least more than a couple of 
slices a day.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Trader Joe's Ciabatta and Pugliese white bread are insanely delicious with 
> whipped butter.  Lock me away from it.
> 
> Forget about commercial packaged breads although German Rudischlager black 
> (mostly rye - no wheat) breads are pretty decent, if not particularly tasty.  
> Just aggressively wholesome.
> 
> Locally made French baguettes can be outstanding, depending on who's doing 
> the baking.  Whole Foods, e.g.
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
>> > good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
>> > sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
>> > and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
>> > absorbing carbs.
>> > Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bread is a waistline killer.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Dan,
>> >>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
>> >>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
>> >>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
>> >> about
>> >>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
>> >>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
>> >>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
>> >>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
>> >>> Best Wishes,
>> >>> Roger
>> >>> Roger Hale
>> >>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> >>> Monroe, Ga.
>> >>> 770-267-0850
>> >>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> > OK Don
>> >
>> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>> >
>> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> > for themselves."
>> >
>> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

Find a multi-grain that doesn't have any high-fructose corn syrup (1st
filter) and then the lowest added sugar / sugar carbs that you can find.
Nature Made is a brand around here that is OK and still very inexpensive.
Rye breads can also be OK.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to
> buy?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 "For those that are too lazy to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?"
Get a bread maker, make bread in big batches, slice and freeze. Very little 
actual labor involved and you get better bread for small money.


-Curt

On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 2:18:53 PM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
> good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
> sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
> and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
> absorbing carbs.
> Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
> 
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Bread is a waistline killer.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan,
>>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
>>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
>>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
>> about
>>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
>>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
>>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
>>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> Roger
>>> Roger Hale
>>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>>> Monroe, Ga.
>>> 770-267-0850
>>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

21 grains? I bet you can't name half of them.

Gotta be careful.  It could contain wheat, rye, oats = 99%
18 others = 1 %

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Probably most any whole grain/multi-grain.  THe more grains the better.
> There's this 21 grain thing I get at Costco, I see it now (for more) at the
> grocery store.  I'll get the name of it, has a green wrapper.  It is really
> good, esp toasted.
>
> You might look at a bread machine, it takes about 10min to dump stuff in
> and turn it on, a coupla hours later you have awesome fresh bread.  They're
> cheap too.  You can premix all your dry ingredients to save more time, then
> just measure out and add your wet ingredients, then let it do its thing.
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 10/19/17 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to
>> buy?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't
>>> buy
>>> good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
>>> sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
>>> and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
>>> absorbing carbs.
>>> Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bread is a waistline killer.

 On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Dan,
> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the
> bread
> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it
> also
> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
>
 about

> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And
> yes
> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the
> injected
> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>
>
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>>> --
>>> OK Don
>>>
>>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
>>> of
>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>>
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>>> who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>>
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>>> ___
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Probably most any whole grain/multi-grain.  THe more grains the better.  
There's this 21 grain thing I get at Costco, I see it now (for more) at 
the grocery store.  I'll get the name of it, has a green wrapper.  It is 
really good, esp toasted.


You might look at a bread machine, it takes about 10min to dump stuff in 
and turn it on, a coupla hours later you have awesome fresh bread.  
They're cheap too.  You can premix all your dry ingredients to save more 
time, then just measure out and add your wet ingredients, then let it do 
its thing.


--FT


On 10/19/17 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
absorbing carbs.
Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Bread is a waistline killer.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Dan,
I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
(behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all

about

cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
Good luck to all in these endeavors...
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com


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*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Trader Joe's Ciabatta and Pugliese white bread are insanely delicious with
whipped butter.  Lock me away from it.

Forget about commercial packaged breads although German Rudischlager black
(mostly rye - no wheat) breads are pretty decent, if not particularly
tasty.  Just aggressively wholesome.

Locally made French baguettes can be outstanding, depending on who's doing
the baking.  Whole Foods, e.g.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to
> buy?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't
> buy
> > good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
> > sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
> > and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
> > absorbing carbs.
> > Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Bread is a waistline killer.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dan,
> >>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the
> bread
> >>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it
> also
> >>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
> >> about
> >>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And
> yes
> >>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the
> injected
> >>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
> >>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
> >>> Best Wishes,
> >>> Roger
> >>> Roger Hale
> >>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >>> Monroe, Ga.
> >>> 770-267-0850
> >>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
> good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
> sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
> and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
> absorbing carbs.
> Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .
> 
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Bread is a waistline killer.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan,
>>> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
>>> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
>>> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
>> about
>>> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
>>> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
>>> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
>>> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
>>> Best Wishes,
>>> Roger
>>> Roger Hale
>>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>>> Monroe, Ga.
>>> 770-267-0850
>>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>>> 
>>> 
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy
good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours,
sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc.
and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly
absorbing carbs.
Oh, and it's good for you to boot . . .

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Bread is a waistline killer.
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Dan,
> > I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
> > (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
> > helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all
> about
> > cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
> > Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
> > diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
> > Good luck to all in these endeavors...
> > Best Wishes,
> > Roger
> > Roger Hale
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> > Monroe, Ga.
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bread is a waistline killer.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
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> Dan,
> I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
> (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also
> helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all about
> cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes
> Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected
> diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college).
> Good luck to all in these endeavors...
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
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[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Dan, 
I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread 
(behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also helps 
to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all about cutting 
out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes Kaleb, some 
Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected diesels (altho' I 
did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college). 
Good luck to all in these endeavors... 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

U will get really tight

--FT


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Surely on this plan I will loose weight.



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[Dan--- via Mercedes]

So you're a carboterian, Roger? My wife is a practicing member, too.  Can't 
pass a loaf of bread without taking a bite

-D

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 10:23 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, I guess at this point the only question that remains is, "which 
> Mercedes model/year contains the most carbs and which the fewest?" I always 
> thought the SLs looked a little fruity while the Unimogs and full size sedans 
> must contain high amounts of sugars and carbs. Knowing the facts about the 
> different models will let you match yourself with the car you drive. It's 
> nice to know a lot of you are trying to stay healthy. Myself...breads are the 
> weight problem. I try to stay away, but it's difficult. 
> Best Wishes, 
> Roger 
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Some of them have dual carbs 

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 9:23 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, I guess at this point the only question that remains is, "which 
> Mercedes model/year contains the most carbs and which the fewest?" I always 
> thought the SLs looked a little fruity while the Unimogs and full size sedans 
> must contain high amounts of sugars and carbs. Knowing the facts about the 
> different models will let you match yourself with the car you drive. It's 
> nice to know a lot of you are trying to stay healthy. Myself...breads are the 
> weight problem. I try to stay away, but it's difficult. 
> Best Wishes, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
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> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
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[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Well, I guess at this point the only question that remains is, "which Mercedes 
model/year contains the most carbs and which the fewest?" I always thought the 
SLs looked a little fruity while the Unimogs and full size sedans must contain 
high amounts of sugars and carbs. Knowing the facts about the different models 
will let you match yourself with the car you drive. It's nice to know a lot of 
you are trying to stay healthy. Myself...breads are the weight problem. I try 
to stay away, but it's difficult. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
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Monroe, Ga. 
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Yes, that's my understanding, total carbs count, but sugar carbs are worse, and 
HFCS moves the needle all the way to evil.  Need balance to make sure you still 
get fibre.
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On October 18, 2017 6:55:12 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>I am thinking that all carbs are not equal. So maybe if you have more
>carbs of something that does not contain as much sugar might be
>somewhat ok?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 5:51 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, that's a little high.  
>> 
>> Ate something the other day, don't recall what, but about twenty
>carbs total, three of which were sugar, and I thought of Kaleb trying
>to cut back on carbs but still needing the fibre...
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On October 18, 2017 6:42:13 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>> Sugars, from the looks of things.  16 grams each.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 18, 2017, at 6:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
 
 What type of carbs, sugars or fibre?  
>>> 
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Im tracking net carbs.

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 5:58 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb sez:
> 
>> ‎I am thinking that all carbs are not equal. >So maybe if you have more 
>> carbs of >something that does not contain as >much sugar might be somewhat 
>> ok?
> 
> Look at net carbs. Total carbs minus fiber.
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Kaleb sez:

>‎I am thinking that all carbs are not equal. >So maybe if you have more carbs 
>of >something that does not contain as >much sugar might be somewhat ok?

Look at net carbs. Total carbs minus fiber.

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I am thinking that all carbs are not equal. So maybe if you have more carbs of 
something that does not contain as much sugar might be somewhat ok?

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 5:51 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, that's a little high.  
> 
> Ate something the other day, don't recall what, but about twenty carbs total, 
> three of which were sugar, and I thought of Kaleb trying to cut back on carbs 
> but still needing the fibre...
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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> 
>> On October 18, 2017 6:42:13 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Sugars, from the looks of things.  16 grams each.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 6:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What type of carbs, sugars or fibre?  
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Raisins are way too high in carbs also.

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got some fresh dates at Costco this afternoon. Yikes! They're really high in 
> carbs!
> 
> Lots of yummy grapes. Already tore into them.  Forgot to look for raisins, I 
> was so pumped about the dates.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dates,  Had some this morning.  Costco is your friend, and not just for tars.
>> 
>> --R
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Full fat yogurt would be best I believe.

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I just try to base it on plate real estate.  I use half of what I was 
> previously.  I may still be eating too much at this point, but I’m eating 
> less, so that’s a start.  I have trained myself to skip meals or change my 
> eating habits in the past without a lot of difficulty, so I’m sure I’ll be 
> successful with this.  I can go from wake up to supper with nothing more than 
> water and a yogurt, at least until I discovered how many carbs there are in 
> nonfat yogurt!
> 
> Hence the desire to find some healthier alternatives.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Portion control is super hard as is keeping yourself from grazing, I just 
>> ate a granola bar I really didn't need...
>> 
>> I'm finding that running is tightening my core muscles and helping me get 
>> full sooner. The only issue I have left there is mental, it bugs me to not 
>> clean the plate. I forget where we were the other day and I had to leave 
>> half the food behind, it about killed me...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
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Yes, that's a little high.  

Ate something the other day, don't recall what, but about twenty carbs total, 
three of which were sugar, and I thought of Kaleb trying to cut back on carbs 
but still needing the fibre...
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On October 18, 2017 6:42:13 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Sugars, from the looks of things.  16 grams each.
>
>-D
>
>
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 6:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> What type of carbs, sugars or fibre?  
>

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Last night when I ate dinner I was not really that hungry. If you cut your 
portions way down it seems you adjust to the lower amount of food and will be 
hungry and first but after you get used it, you are not hungry anymore. Cutting 
carbs also leads to you not being hungry all the time also, or so I read. 

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Portion control is super hard as is keeping yourself from grazing, I just ate 
> a granola bar I really didn't need...
> I'm finding that running is tightening my core muscles and helping me get 
> full sooner. The only issue I have left there is mental, it bugs me to not 
> clean the plate. I forget where we were the other day and I had to leave half 
> the food behind, it about killed me...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
>On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 2:57:58 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> That’s nothing to fret about Kaleb.  You’re in an environment where it’s 
> really difficult to manage what you eat when you’re out and about and your 
> choices are limited.
> 
> Curt - Totally understood.  I’m just starting so I don’t expect the 
> substantial changes to last much longer - I’m sure things will plateau out 
> over time.
> 
> That lecture on high fructose corn syrup was enough to curdle my nonfat milk.
> 
> My issue was portion control and too many carbs.  I’ve done well on the 
> portion control and am doing better every day on carbs as I check out what I 
> eat and find healthier alternatives.  I just started on this a couple weeks 
> ago, and I expected the initial loss would be good and things would start to 
> taper off over time.
> 
> And yes, it’s a lot of “retuning” your way of thinking about eating and what 
> you eat.  It hasn’t been that difficult, really.  Now all I need to do is 
> crank up the exercise more and I’ll be on my way.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> For really sustainable weight loss I'd be aiming for 1-2 pounds a week. Big 
>> loss seems like a good game but its rarely sustainable.
>> The thing to remember here is you're making a lifestyle change. Diets will 
>> fail, a new lifestyle will stay...
>> -Curt
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I am basically just focused on cutting sweats and high carb starch food. I 
would love to have some potatoes but so far not eating them. Just doing that 
will cut the carbs way down. No bread items either. 

Today I had a taco salad with no beans and did not eat the shell and had 2 eggs 
and bacon for a meeting this morning st IHOP and only at 11 carbs for the day 
out of the 103 I have allowed myself. I have this app set for 103 carbs which 
you put in how much per week you want to lose then set what sort of carb/fat 
ratio you want and it give you a daily number to hit. The most carbs I have had 
since starting this was 49 one day. Most days I have been just slightly over 
20. Surely on this plan I will loose weight. 

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That’s nothing to fret about Kaleb.  You’re in an environment where it’s 
> really difficult to manage what you eat when you’re out and about and your 
> choices are limited.
> 
> Curt - Totally understood.  I’m just starting so I don’t expect the 
> substantial changes to last much longer - I’m sure things will plateau out 
> over time.
> 
> That lecture on high fructose corn syrup was enough to curdle my nonfat milk.
> 
> My issue was portion control and too many carbs.  I’ve done well on the 
> portion control and am doing better every day on carbs as I check out what I 
> eat and find healthier alternatives.  I just started on this a couple weeks 
> ago, and I expected the initial loss would be good and things would start to 
> taper off over time.
> 
> And yes, it’s a lot of “retuning” your way of thinking about eating and what 
> you eat.  It hasn’t been that difficult, really.  Now all I need to do is 
> crank up the exercise more and I’ll be on my way.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> For really sustainable weight loss I'd be aiming for 1-2 pounds a week. Big 
>> loss seems like a good game but its rarely sustainable.
>> The thing to remember here is you're making a lifestyle change. Diets will 
>> fail, a new lifestyle will stay...
>> -Curt
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Sugars, from the looks of things.  16 grams each.

-D


> On Oct 18, 2017, at 6:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What type of carbs, sugars or fibre?  
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> 
> On October 18, 2017 5:51:03 PM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> Got some fresh dates at Costco this afternoon. Yikes! They're really
>> high in carbs!
>> 
>> Lots of yummy grapes. Already tore into them.  Forgot to look for
>> raisins, I was so pumped about the dates.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dates,  Had some this morning.  Costco is your friend, and not just
>> for tars.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a dead sams membership. Should I get a Costco membership? We finally got 
one in Tulsa. 

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> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dates,  Had some this morning.  Costco is your friend, and not just for tars.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 10/18/17 2:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Prunes are much the same.
>> 
>> I’m trying to find some different fruits to get my sweet tooth fix.  I like 
>> figs and raisins.  If anyone has other suggestions, I’m all ears.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good figs are great, moderate figs are disgusting. Theres a fine line 
>>> between tasty and ready for compost.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 2:12:17 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I dont know…I got a lot of good info out of that conversation, and I lost 
>>> 10 pounds in the last week (I was working on it anyway, but the discussion 
>>> helped me to stay motivated.)
>>> 
>>> Looking to knock off another 5 pounds this week if I can.  I have to go out 
>>> tonight in search of some good fruit - I’ve been looking for some good figs.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

How about dried cranberries? We get them here either sweetened or
unsweetened.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Oct 18, 2017 5:51 PM, "Dan--- via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Got some fresh dates at Costco this afternoon. Yikes! They're really high
> in carbs!
>
> Lots of yummy grapes. Already tore into them.  Forgot to look for raisins,
> I was so pumped about the dates.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dates,  Had some this morning.  Costco is your friend, and not just for
> tars.
> >
> > --R
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

What type of carbs, sugars or fibre?  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 18, 2017 5:51:03 PM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Got some fresh dates at Costco this afternoon. Yikes! They're really
>high in carbs!
>
>Lots of yummy grapes. Already tore into them.  Forgot to look for
>raisins, I was so pumped about the dates.
>
>-D
>
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Dates,  Had some this morning.  Costco is your friend, and not just
>for tars.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Got some fresh dates at Costco this afternoon. Yikes! They're really high in 
carbs!

Lots of yummy grapes. Already tore into them.  Forgot to look for raisins, I 
was so pumped about the dates.

-D

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dates,  Had some this morning.  Costco is your friend, and not just for tars.
> 
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I just try to base it on plate real estate.  I use half of what I was 
previously.  I may still be eating too much at this point, but I’m eating less, 
so that’s a start.  I have trained myself to skip meals or change my eating 
habits in the past without a lot of difficulty, so I’m sure I’ll be successful 
with this.  I can go from wake up to supper with nothing more than water and a 
yogurt, at least until I discovered how many carbs there are in nonfat yogurt!

Hence the desire to find some healthier alternatives.

-D


> On Oct 18, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Portion control is super hard as is keeping yourself from grazing, I just ate 
> a granola bar I really didn't need...
> 
> I'm finding that running is tightening my core muscles and helping me get 
> full sooner. The only issue I have left there is mental, it bugs me to not 
> clean the plate. I forget where we were the other day and I had to leave half 
> the food behind, it about killed me...
> 
> -Curt
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

SWMBette and I both can't taste bitter like SWMBO, so I love the sour
taste.  I eat one grapefruit per day.

Sprinkling sugar?  This is the healthy eating channel now, we've got to fix
our Karma after the chowda-Q!!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Alton Brown says you should sprinkle grapefruit with sugar and bake it to
> convert the sour taste into something better. It sure looked good on the
> show, I've never tried it...
> -Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Portion control is super hard as is keeping yourself from grazing, I just ate a 
granola bar I really didn't need...
I'm finding that running is tightening my core muscles and helping me get full 
sooner. The only issue I have left there is mental, it bugs me to not clean the 
plate. I forget where we were the other day and I had to leave half the food 
behind, it about killed me...

-Curt
 

On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 2:57:58 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 That’s nothing to fret about Kaleb.  You’re in an environment where it’s 
really difficult to manage what you eat when you’re out and about and your 
choices are limited.

Curt - Totally understood.  I’m just starting so I don’t expect the substantial 
changes to last much longer - I’m sure things will plateau out over time.

That lecture on high fructose corn syrup was enough to curdle my nonfat milk.

My issue was portion control and too many carbs.  I’ve done well on the portion 
control and am doing better every day on carbs as I check out what I eat and 
find healthier alternatives.  I just started on this a couple weeks ago, and I 
expected the initial loss would be good and things would start to taper off 
over time.

And yes, it’s a lot of “retuning” your way of thinking about eating and what 
you eat.  It hasn’t been that difficult, really.  Now all I need to do is crank 
up the exercise more and I’ll be on my way.

-D


> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> For really sustainable weight loss I'd be aiming for 1-2 pounds a week. Big 
> loss seems like a good game but its rarely sustainable.
> The thing to remember here is you're making a lifestyle change. Diets will 
> fail, a new lifestyle will stay...
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s nothing to fret about Kaleb.  You’re in an environment where it’s really 
difficult to manage what you eat when you’re out and about and your choices are 
limited.

Curt - Totally understood.  I’m just starting so I don’t expect the substantial 
changes to last much longer - I’m sure things will plateau out over time.

That lecture on high fructose corn syrup was enough to curdle my nonfat milk.

My issue was portion control and too many carbs.  I’ve done well on the portion 
control and am doing better every day on carbs as I check out what I eat and 
find healthier alternatives.  I just started on this a couple weeks ago, and I 
expected the initial loss would be good and things would start to taper off 
over time.

And yes, it’s a lot of “retuning” your way of thinking about eating and what 
you eat.  It hasn’t been that difficult, really.  Now all I need to do is crank 
up the exercise more and I’ll be on my way.

-D


> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> For really sustainable weight loss I'd be aiming for 1-2 pounds a week. Big 
> loss seems like a good game but its rarely sustainable.
> The thing to remember here is you're making a lifestyle change. Diets will 
> fail, a new lifestyle will stay...
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Alton Brown says you should sprinkle grapefruit with sugar and bake it to 
convert the sour taste into something better. It sure looked good on the show, 
I've never tried it...
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 2:48:53 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 In another couple of months we’ll have all the strawberries you could want, 
and cheep, too.  This is about 20 minutes from my house:

"Over three-quarters of the nation's midwinter strawberries come from Plant 
City, which is also the home of the Florida Strawberry Festival.”

I never understood the attraction of grapefruit.  They taste nasty to me.  Have 
since I was a kid and my folks had the funny two pronged knife (or whatever it 
was) to section them up.

-D

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cherries are very nice, strawberries are great brain food but hard to find
> ripe/sweet out of season.
> 
> At the other end, grapefruit will cut your appetite.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In another couple of months we’ll have all the strawberries you could want, and 
cheep, too.  This is about 20 minutes from my house:

"Over three-quarters of the nation's midwinter strawberries come from Plant 
City, which is also the home of the Florida Strawberry Festival.”

I never understood the attraction of grapefruit.  They taste nasty to me.  Have 
since I was a kid and my folks had the funny two pronged knife (or whatever it 
was) to section them up.

-D

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cherries are very nice, strawberries are great brain food but hard to find
> ripe/sweet out of season.
> 
> At the other end, grapefruit will cut your appetite.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I”m not a big fan.  To me they taste kind of bitter.  Maybe it’s the ones I 
bought, who knows?

-D


> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> For dried fruit I really like apricots.
> 
> -Curt
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Cherries are very nice, strawberries are great brain food but hard to find
ripe/sweet out of season.

At the other end, grapefruit will cut your appetite.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

For dried fruit I really like apricots.
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 2:26:13 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Prunes are much the same.

I’m trying to find some different fruits to get my sweet tooth fix.  I like 
figs and raisins.  If anyone has other suggestions, I’m all ears.

-D


> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Good figs are great, moderate figs are disgusting. Theres a fine line between 
> tasty and ready for compost.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 2:12:17 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I dont know…I got a lot of good info out of that conversation, and I lost 10 
> pounds in the last week (I was working on it anyway, but the discussion 
> helped me to stay motivated.)
> 
> Looking to knock off another 5 pounds this week if I can.  I have to go out 
> tonight in search of some good fruit - I’ve been looking for some good figs.
> 
> -D
> 

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I like dates, too.  I have had luck with grapes at Costco.  It’s so difficult 
to find ones that are ripe.  I don’t understand why people eat the ones with 
the green stems, as they taste awful.  If the stems aren’t brown, they’re not 
typically ripe.

I’ve got a really good farmer’s market in town that’s open 7 days a week 
starting at 4:30 am.  They have every imaginable fruit and vegetable on hand.  
I’m going there tomorrow at lunch, I think.

-D


> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dates,  Had some this morning.  Costco is your friend, and not just for tars.
> 
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Dates,  Had some this morning.  Costco is your friend, and not just for 
tars.


--R


On 10/18/17 2:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Prunes are much the same.

I’m trying to find some different fruits to get my sweet tooth fix.  I like 
figs and raisins.  If anyone has other suggestions, I’m all ears.

-D



On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Good figs are great, moderate figs are disgusting. Theres a fine line between 
tasty and ready for compost.

-Curt


On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 2:12:17 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I dont know…I got a lot of good info out of that conversation, and I lost 10 
pounds in the last week (I was working on it anyway, but the discussion helped 
me to stay motivated.)

Looking to knock off another 5 pounds this week if I can.  I have to go out 
tonight in search of some good fruit - I’ve been looking for some good figs.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Prunes are much the same.

I’m trying to find some different fruits to get my sweet tooth fix.  I like 
figs and raisins.  If anyone has other suggestions, I’m all ears.

-D


> On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Good figs are great, moderate figs are disgusting. Theres a fine line between 
> tasty and ready for compost.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 2:12:17 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I dont know…I got a lot of good info out of that conversation, and I lost 10 
> pounds in the last week (I was working on it anyway, but the discussion 
> helped me to stay motivated.)
> 
> Looking to knock off another 5 pounds this week if I can.  I have to go out 
> tonight in search of some good fruit - I’ve been looking for some good figs.
> 
> -D
> 

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