Re: [newbie-it] modem e masterizzatore
Il 23:39, lunedì 17 settembre 2001, hai scritto: Ciao io non riesco ad installare il modem e il masterizzatore sotto mandrake 8, il modem è un v.90 56 kb della motorola SM56 interno masterizzatore invece è un plexter cd w qualcuno di voi ha queste marche mi potete aiutare? se vi serve altri dati più specifici ve li darò. grazie laura Ciao, il modem interno è sempre una mezza fregatura (indipendentemente da Linux). Controlla sul sito www.linmodems.org se il tuo modello è in grado di funzionare col pinguino oppure no. Se ne hai la possibilità, ti consiglierei di cambiare questo modem per un modello esterno. Per quanto riguarda il masterizzatore, potresti essere più precisa? Che problema incontri? Daniele
Re: [newbie-it] spegnere il computer.
--- brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: non puoi, a meno di dare il permesso all'utente. Si puo`, se non erro basta aggiungere il suo nome in /etc/shutdown (che man shutdown sia con te), ma ho risolto in altro modo: ho inserito nel ~/.bashrc due righe: alias halt='su -c /sbin/halt' alias reboot='su -c /sbin/reboot' in questo modo da utente si puo` spegnere dando 'halt' e poi digitando la password di root. ***Ovviamente questo non puo` esser fatto su un sistema che deve essere spento / riavviato da piu` utenti... e` una comodita` solo per uso domestico :PPP -- Ciao brain - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Io, sul mio sistema casalingo, ho risolto il problema dando il permesso s al comando shutdown per qualsiasi utente: chmod a+s shutdown In questo modo qualsiasi utente diventa root per il periodo di esecuzione del comando shutdown. Forse e' poco ortodosso, pero' funziona! Ciao. Steo. __ Do You Yahoo!? Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it
Re: [newbie-it] modem e masterizzatore
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Daniele Micci wrote: Il 23:39, lunedì 17 settembre 2001, hai scritto: Ciao io non riesco ad installare il modem e il masterizzatore sotto mandrake 8, il modem è un v.90 56 kb della motorola SM56 interno masterizzatore invece è un plexter cd w qualcuno di voi ha queste marche mi potete aiutare? se vi serve altri dati più specifici ve li darò. grazie laura Ciao, il modem interno è sempre una mezza fregatura (indipendentemente da Linux). Controlla sul sito www.linmodems.org se il tuo modello è in grado di funzionare col pinguino oppure no. Se ne hai la possibilità, ti consiglierei di cambiare questo modem per un modello esterno. Per quanto riguarda il masterizzatore, potresti essere più precisa? Che problema incontri? Daniele Ciao, credo che per i motorola i driver per linux siano offerti direttamente dalla casa. Collegati al sito del produttore e da qualche parte trovertai addirittura la dicitura driver per linux. Lo ho fatto per un amico, se lui si ricorda quale e' il sito giusti te lo posto. Luigi -- Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Via San Lorenzo 53, 56127 Pisa Tel.: +39/0347/8707210 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie-it] bash: directory o file inesistente
... il messaggio di errore ti dice che non c'è uno script che si chiama configure nella directory da dove lanci il comando ... quindi ... parto dall'inizio e provo ad immaginare: Credo tu ti riferisca ad un programma sorgente con estensione tar.gz (o tar.bz2).. Se è così il primo passo è quello di decomprimere il file con il comando: tar xzvf nomedelfile.tar.gz (o tar xjvf nomedelfile.tar.bz2) a quel punto viene creata una directory (o almeno dovrebbe se il pacchetto è stato creato con un po' di pietà nei confronti dei poveri utilizzatori) col nome del file (es. nomedelfile) dove, all'interno dovrebbe trovarsi il fatidico script configure ... a quel punto ti devi quindi spostare nella directory con: cd nomedelfile e da lì lanciare: ./configure poi: make e quindi make install (ovviamente da root) Ciao Marco
[newbie-it] Due problemi
Salve a tutti ho due problemini: 1) Se lancio kmix (ma anche qualche altra applicazione) tutto funziona ma becco anche il messaggio: Xlib: extension RENDER missing on display :0.0. che cosa e' e come si aggiusta? 2) Da ieri (mi sembra di non avere modificato nulla, ma evidentemente mi sbaglio) quando lancio noatun il programmino crasha. Ho provato cosi' a lanciarlo come root funziona ed il messaggio e' il seguente: Xlib: extension RENDER missing on display :0.0. Launched ok, pid = 2347 read on not open file want:1 direct virtual call OutputStream::writeInfo ImageXVDesk::freeImage - no image was created! direct virtual call OutputStream::writeInfo Fatemi sapere se ci capite qualcosa. Ciao luigi -- Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Via San Lorenzo 53, 56127 Pisa Tel.: +39/0347/8707210 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie-it] spegnere il computer.
Il 10:41, mercoledì 19 settembre 2001, hai scritto: [CUT] Io, sul mio sistema casalingo, ho risolto il problema dando il permesso s al comando shutdown per qualsiasi utente: chmod a+s shutdown In questo modo qualsiasi utente diventa root per il periodo di esecuzione del comando shutdown. Forse e' poco ortodosso, pero' funziona! Ciao. Steo. Ciao, magari sto per dire una corbelleria, ma così non ottieni che - se il tuo PC non fosse 100% sicuro e qualcuno riuscisse ad entrare - chiunque possa spegnere il tuo PC via Internet? Daniele
Re: [newbie-it] su raggiunta la dimesione massima del file !?! Colpa di Bastille!
Trovata la soluzione !!! Nella dir: /home/max/.xauth/refcount ci sono tante cartelle quanti sono gli utenti del sistema. Il problema era dovuto alla presenza di grossi files (c.a. 97 M) dal nome unix:0_max ecc (uno per ogni utente) in queste cartelle, eliminati i file è tornato tutto a posto.Ho provato ad aprire i files con kedit e konqueror ma sono andati in crash. Sarebbe bello capire che cosa è successo.. Saluti max Sembrava risolto ma dopo un paio di su bisognava rieliminare il file dalla dir xauth. Ora ho risolto davvero ed ho trovato anche il colpevole;-) Il colpevole è Bastille che, in alcuni casi dipendenti dal grado di protezione desiderato, attiva un limite sulla taglia dei files. Per eliminare l'incoveniente editare il file /etc/security/limit.conf aggiungendo un # all'inizio della riga che contiene fsize 10 (o poco più o meno). Scusate questa disquisizione con me stesso (sono sempre io che mi rispondo..) ma potrebbe essere utile per qualche altro sventurato.se no a che serve la lista? Saluti e pace max
Re: [newbie-it] spegnere il computer.
--- Daniele Micci [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Il 10:41, mercoledì 19 settembre 2001, hai scritto: Ciao, magari sto per dire una corbelleria, ma così non ottieni che - se il tuo PC non fosse 100% sicuro e qualcuno riuscisse ad entrare - chiunque possa spegnere il tuo PC via Internet? Daniele Credo di si, perche' in questo modo il comando shutdown e' eseguibile da tutti. Pero' se succedesse una cosa del genere, questo intrusore non avrebbe comunque i diritti dell'utente con il quale sono collegato ad internet (e quindi il diritto ad usare shutdown)? -Non e' una domanda retorica, e' proprio un mio dubbio!- Steo. __ Do You Yahoo!? Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it
[newbie-it] Scambio di hard disk
Ciao a tutti, Avrei bisogno di una conferma... Ho un Linux installato sull'hd master del secondo controller (/dev/hdc per intenderci...) Ora pero' vorrei spostare l'hd come master del primo controller (/dev/hda). Dal punto di vista Linux dovrebbe essere sufficiente modificare l'fstab sostituendo i riferimenti a /dev/hdc con /dev/hda, giusto? Grazie 1000. Steo. __ Do You Yahoo!? Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it
Re: [newbie-it] spegnere il computer.
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:41:43 +0200 (CEST) Stefano Salari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Io, sul mio sistema casalingo, ho risolto il problema dando il permesso s al comando shutdown per qualsiasi utente: chmod a+s shutdown In questo modo qualsiasi utente diventa root per il periodo di esecuzione del comando shutdown. Forse e' poco ortodosso, pero' funziona! Io invece ho usato SUDO, un tool che permette di far eseguire un comando root ad UN SOLO utente. In pratica posso digitare halt o reboot ed i comandi vengono eseguiti, senza che i veri eseguibili siano suidati. Ciao -- Sebastiano Cordiano
Re: [newbie-it] Schedaaudio ES1969
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:29:17 +0200 (CEST) Luigi De Pascale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Salve a tutti: Ho un problemino con la scheda audio: Sono costretto a tenere il volume del microfono a 0 perche' altrimenti il computer comincia a fischiare in modo orribile. (non parliamo del mancato funzionamento del winmodem che ne consegue). Eccovi la parte del module.conf che la riguarda Non son io l'autore. Qualcuno dalla mailing list e' stato cosi' gentile da mandarmi questo pezzo gia' sistemato. ___Estratto del modules.conf-- # ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 alias snd-card-0 snd-card-es1938 # OSS/Free portion alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss post-install snd-card-es1938 modprobe snd-pcm-oss ^ A cosa serve questa riga? Non so se e' la causa del tuo problema ma non capisco a cosa serve visto che il pcm-oss fa gia' parte dell' emulazione oss (vedi 3 righe sopra). Sicuro che ci vuole? Riferendomi all' altra tua mail in cui parli di kmix, se hai installato anche le utils di alsa prova ad usare alsamixer che funziona sempre ;-) Ciao -- Sebastiano Cordiano
Re: [newbie-it] modem e masterizzatore
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Daniele Micci wrote: Il 23:39, lunedì 17 settembre 2001, hai scritto: Ciao io non riesco ad installare il modem e il masterizzatore sotto mandrake 8, il modem è un v.90 56 kb della motorola SM56 interno masterizzatore invece è un plexter cd w qualcuno di voi ha queste marche mi potete aiutare? se vi serve altri dati più specifici ve li darò. grazie laura Correggo il mio mail precedente. Dovresti i driver mi sembra siano direttamente sulla pagina www.linmodems.org Mi fai sapere se funzionano? ciao ciao Luigi -- Luigi De Pascale: Indirizzo: Via San Lorenzo 53, 56127 Pisa Tel.: +39/0347/8707210 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie-it] Informazioni su prozilla
Il 17:28, domenica 16 settembre 2001, hai scritto : ti consiglio di usare un downloader, come nt (downloader for x), o caitoo. Se hai gia' usato getright sono praticamente uguali. Altro programma molto interessante e' prozilla (che ora ha pure un'interfaccia grafica, a parte). E' un downloader multithreaded, cioe' ti spezza il file in piu' parti e le scarica contemporaneamente. Ciao, ho provato a scaricare prozilla da www.rpmfind.net: prozilla-1.3.6-2mdk.i586.rpm L'installazione non dà problemi. Volevo chiedere: - Consigli sul file di configurazione /etc/prozilla.conf ? (ho un modem 56k) - Dove posso trovare l'interfaccia grafica ? Grazie anticipate, Alberto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie-it] GCC, qualcuno ci capisce qualcosa?
Ciao. Mi sapreste dire come posso fare ad ottenere un buon funzionamento di gcc? Mi spiego: quando lancio un qualunque ./configure appare il messaggio: c compiler cannot create executables. Il ./configure lo lancio sempre da root. Come è possibile. Ho il sosppetto che sia successo tutto da quando ho installato il 3.0. Allora l'ho rimosso e ho rimesso (scusate il gioco di parole ;-)) il 2.96 che si trova con la Mdk 8.0. Qualcuno mi può dire come agire? Devo cambiare in qualche modo la configurazione di gcc? E se sì, come? P.S. Il problema ce l'ho pure con la 3.0, altrimenti non l'avrei rimossa... Un saluto speranzoso CaMiX ---
[newbie-it] partizione ntfs
Ciao a tutti, qualcuno saprebbe indicarmi la maniera di montare una partizione ntfs in modo che l'utente ne abbia i permessi di scrittura ? -- -- OKreZ -- www.hampcake.com --
[newbie-it] Per Daniele Micci
Ciao Daniele, allora il masterizzatore è un Plextor CD R PX-W1610A Per il modem cercheròma mi sa che lo cambieròanche perchè non va granchè nemmeno sotto Windows.mi sai consigliare una buona marca? e che riconosca il linux??? Grazie a presto - Original Message - From: Daniele Micci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie-it] modem e masterizzatore Il 23:39, lunedì 17 settembre 2001, hai scritto: Ciao io non riesco ad installare il modem e il masterizzatore sotto mandrake 8, il modem è un v.90 56 kb della motorola SM56 interno masterizzatore invece è un plexter cd w qualcuno di voi ha queste marche mi potete aiutare? se vi serve altri dati più specifici ve li darò. grazie laura Ciao, il modem interno è sempre una mezza fregatura (indipendentemente da Linux). Controlla sul sito www.linmodems.org se il tuo modello è in grado di funzionare col pinguino oppure no. Se ne hai la possibilità, ti consiglierei di cambiare questo modem per un modello esterno. Per quanto riguarda il masterizzatore, potresti essere più precisa? Che problema incontri? Daniele
[newbie-it] GCC, qualcuno ci capisce qualcosa?
Ciao. Mi sapreste dire come posso fare ad ottenere un buon funzionamento di gcc? Mi spiego: quando lancio un qualunque ./configure appare il messaggio: c compiler cannot create executables. Il ./configure lo lancio sempre da root. Come è possibile. Ho il sosppetto che sia successo tutto da quando ho installato il 3.0. Allora l'ho rimosso e ho rimesso (scusate il gioco di parole ;-)) il 2.96 che si trova con la Mdk 8.0. Qualcuno mi può dire come agire? Devo cambiare in qualche modo la configurazione di gcc? E se sì, come? P.S. Il problema ce l'ho pure con la 3.0, altrimenti non l'avrei rimossa... Un saluto speranzoso CaMiX
Re: [newbie] Will Ximian install fix Gnome?
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:14:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope you have broad shoulders. I am getting no where and it may be your fault. You are helping me, because of the problems you are dealing with. Is it possible to have more than one desktop? Of course. GNU/Linux is all about choice :-) KDE bye, bye. The help section is beautiful. As I get to items such as type in the following command, it is unreadable. (special code?!!) I have no internet hook up on the linux yet. Checking out Gnome, I visited there site. Is the version you downloaded the one that has all the Java capabilities? Java has nothing to do with the desktop environment. You can get a Java Runtime Environment at java.sun.com. Is it possible to log in as su at localhost instead of user? Localhost is your computer name, not a user name. You _can_ log in directly as root (that's the superuser's name), but it is recommended that you do everything as a user and su (switch user) to root only when you need to (e.g. when installing RPMs). I am getting lazy. I too have the CD's. I noticed when checking out the rpm's installable, installed windows nothing that I have installed is showing. If the RPM is on your system doing an upgrade manually will ignore or override RPM? I guess we are to assume that the RPM and manual installs if done correctly will place files in the same locations on the file system? I did find a site that explained the drawbacks of using RPM. Do you know of a way to get the items off of the CD's without using RPM's? I'm not too sure what you mean here. If you want to look _inside_ RPM packages, you can do this with mc (Midnight Commander), a console file manager. Tools like Mandrake's Software Manager, GNOME's gnoRPM and KDE's KPackage all interface with the RPM system, and so can correctly install RPMs. Upgrading Mandrake as a whole (e.g. from the CDs) respects the existing RPM database, and upgrades rather than replaces it. Also, you can use the console RPM app to install packages. Kathy Peter Rymshaw wrote: The serious problems with gnome seemed to be fixed (I did find still another gnome RPM. Maybe that did it I still can't understand why it was necessary to do it manually, though. --- Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've decided that I like Gnome more than KDE and want to learn and begin using it. But I'm having problems beyond the normal (like getting CD floppy access from the desktop or panel. I won't have to manually monunt/unmount will I?) That's not the problem. When I try to select many of the Gnome features, the computer freezes--completely, I have to turn the power off and on (which I worry about each time). I've found that some of these problems have gone away after I've installed more gnome files from the RPMs on CD-ROM, so that might be the heart of the problem (and also what I would consider a serious bug in the program). But I have installed everything that I can find named gnome and there are still problems. (And shouldn't the initial installation of Gnome from the install CD have worked even without what I've done?) What I've done now is gone to the Ximian signt and downloaded their gnome files (and also gnuCash which I had tried to install earlier without success). I figure I should install -core- first, then perhaps -applets-, -libs-, -utils- and the others I found. Ximian says that it is based on gnome 1.4, and instructions are that it is not necessary to first remove regular gnome installation--that it will automatically upgrade files. My hopes are that whatever files are giving me problems will be replaced and most if not all of my problems solved. But I also seem to remember having read somewhere that installation of Ximian must be on a sound gnome base. Do I need to find and fix my gnome problems before installing Ximian? That's the key question. Sorry to go on so long with this. Anyone know? Just occurred to me, I should ask Ximian, even though this is the free download I'm talking about. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail pine not receiving (still, again, always)
Hi Mark (and anyone else who might be entertained by/curious about this saga)! Today I did a complete re-install of Mandrake 8.0 and the picture below represents my current state. I will yet try again on the morrow! I recently got a message from Postfix (YEAH!) from the system. So I get internal mail now. First, here is my .fetchmailrc file: = SNIP = set postmaster WeAreUs set bouncemail set no spambounce set properties poll home.com proto POP3 via eth0 user 'WCBaker' there with password 'xxx' is WeAreUs here = SNIP = Issuing fetchmail with -v flag: message that comes back is: fetchmail: couldn't find canonical DNS name of home.com Issuing from the console: fetchmail mail.home.com message that comes back is: fetchmail: couldn't find canonical DNS name of mail.home.com Issuing from the console: fetchmail home.com message that comes back is: fetchmail: couldn't find canonical DNS name of home.com For all the attempts above, I watched both the status lights on the ethernet card attached to the cable modem and also the desktop Network Monitoring tool, and fetchmail does appear to be doing the DNS query (well, it is certainly doing something on the net but I have no certainty about what it is doing). Neither my host name nor my domain name on the Linux box are home.com (which I figure would really shoot me in the foot, or even higher up). I did call myself WarrenB.com, if that is ok?? It does appear that there's something scwewy going on awound here! Those wascawy winux pwobwems. . . Thanks to all for tolerating this continuing (seemingly forever) thread. . . Cheers! -wowen (that's warren if you are not a bugs bunny fan) - Original Message - From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] fetchmail pine not receiving (still) WC, try typing the fetchmail command and use the -v flag and post the results of the attempt. It sounds as though you're not telling fetchmail the correct information, or theres something scwewy going on awound here! -- daRcmaTTeR =/\=??? |%C++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] freezes rendering 3d with my nVidia drivers
a few things that might help. I'm away from my box right now so i don't have specifics. will check tonight. there is a setting to set yout agp usage. it defaults to 3 with the new drivers. mine only works if i set it to 1. next i assume you had installed mesa before the drivers. i found that if you install the drivers then mesa nothing works. I have the problem that if i try to run anything with mesa full screen it dies. So i run every thing in a window (chromium, tuxracer, quake 3, UT all have options for it, gears is a good check for this as it only is in a window) also are there any warnings or errors in the XFree log file? HTH Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: John W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] freezes rendering 3d with my nVidia drivers I hate to say it but I had the same problem and with the exception of Chromium have never been able to play an GL based games or run any of the mesa demos without a total lock-up. I even corresponded directly with Nvidia for about two weeks trying everything to get them to work and it was all for nothing. My card is PCI perhaps that has something to do with it. Nvidia never said yes, no or possibly with regards to the fact of the card being PCI. Good luck, John At 03:42 PM 9/18/01 -0400, you wrote: Ok, I've installed both the tar balls and later the src rpms of the latest nVidia drivers. I am running Mandrake 8.0 freq 2. I still get the same problem. Computer starts successfully (with nVidia logo). Launching a 3d accelerated program (e.g. gears or tuxracer) freezes the computer. I cannot even log out the a command line or restart x. -Paul Rodríguez On 16 Sep 2001 11:23:31 -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday 16 September 2001 06:27 am, Paul Rodríguez escribió: Did the earlier versions supprt 3d acceleration? I'm concerned about using the rpms. I was told that using them would make my problem easier to troubleshoot. However, if they were compiled on a different kernel version than the one I am using (almost certyainly since I am using Freq 2), can this cause me any probelms? This won't change my kernel will it? Many people have the mistaken belief that tarballs are always source. The nVidia tarballs are nothin more than archive (.tar), compressed (.gz) wrappers around secret, closed source, nVidia binaries. The src.rpm's are the same, but add in the increased ability to easily remove them when/if the nVidia closed binaries break your system. Which they will, sooner or later. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Admiral Yamamoto: I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve. =_1000657534-7607-4076 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] what is wrong with dependencies
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:21:10 -0500, Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know dependencies are a pain, but so is Windows when some program being install takes it upon itself to update various DLLs that a new app needs, but breaks existing apps in the process. It's such a problem that evidently XP has given up on the shared DLLs and each app will now have them in their own folder. This is a VERY BAD idea. All it does is lead to resource (drive space, memory, CPU usage, etc.) wastage. Why is The GIMP only about 20MB when inatalled, while Adobe Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro can take up hundreds of megs? Because The GIMP relies on what's already there. The developers don't have to bother with reinventing the wheel; they can use shared libraries like libjpeg and libpng to do simple things like displaying images, giving coders more time to improve their own app. If you upgrade your libjpeg (which can display JPEGs) and libpng (which can display PNGs), you will be upgrading _all_ the applications that use those libs, including Mozilla and Konqueror. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] PPP connection commandline
Can pls help me how to connect and configure PPP using the commandline including PAP secrets I really have no knowledge on it.My modem by the way is a US Robotics cause they said that their are optimal configuration regarding this modem. Thanks and any help we gladly appreciated. Thanks and God Bless! Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Digital Cameras
Price varies depending on where you get it. MSRP is $1099 (but don't pay that!!) you can find them from many online resalers for $700-800 Not cheap, but this is a 4.1 MgeaPixel , 3x Zoom camera, with exceptional quality. I'm not even worried about getting gimp to recognize it. I can mount it as a scsi device, and just go get the pictures as a regular file. No sweat, no problems, no need to aquire the source. It's a USB device, so you need to run modprobe usb-storage to initialize the device. After that it's available to mount, with (in my case): mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat /mnt/cam From there, the files in the camera are available under /mnt/cam So easy it hurts. forget trying to get gimp, or gphoto to recognize the camera, it just doesn't need to! Ok.. With SOME cameras it does. Some cameras do require special drives to make them available. It's a failing of many of them. The Olympus S4040 does NOT. It makes life just that little bit easier. :) Cheers! Ric Hmm... I must like this camera, I sound like a fsck'ing salesman! :) Now I just need to get a good, inexpensive photo printer to go with it. Charles A. Punch wrote: I have a few questions. What's the price (I'm window shopping for future reference)? And How do you get The GIMP to recognize it? ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #217118 Barth's Distinction: There are two types of people: those who divide people into two types, and those who don't. Ric Tibbetts wrote: All; I just thought I'd pass this along. Over the weekend I picked up the new Olympus S4040 Digital Camera (impressive little camera!). If any one is interested in these cameras, rest assured, it worked with Linux right out of the box! I just hooked it up to the USB, and mounted the device (/dev/sda1 in my case). It was identified as a SCSI emulated mass storage device. Very very simple to hook up use. So even though it's not on the hardware compatability list, it does work. BTW: I'm running MDK 8.0, on an intel box. Now I just need to get gphoto to recognize it. Not too much luck there, but I really don't care too much, gimp will do. Anyway, just thought I'd pass that along. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com message.footer Content-Type: text/plain Content-Encoding: 8bit Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards
was just looking at the linux drivers page at nvidia.com .. guess waht they now have a download for the source files for both the kernel and the glx. guess that means they went open source? personally i need to compile the source for my lm8.1rc3...its stuck in text mode - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:27 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Video cards -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:55 PM To: Dennis Myers Cc: Newbie Linux-Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] Video cards Hi, I don't know what I am doing different, but I have an nVidia GeForce II on an card made by Asus (I think it is the V7700), and I have ABSOLUTELY no problems with it; in fact, I followed the directions that I found on nVidia's page, and on MUO, and voila, fait accompli! I have nice gfx, can run OpenGL apps beautifully and couldn't be happier with it (which is good, since I bought it very shortly after the GeForce II was released, when it was VERY expensive, and would be FURIOUS if I WAS having difficulties!). Anyways, I was just posting this to let people who are on the market know that the GeForce II DOES work with LM8 (beautifully in fact), and to give hope to those I have seen posting here that they have had difficulties, and have relegated their GeForce II based vid cards to paper weights. As an aside, I did NOT use the drivers that came with LM8, but downloaded them from either nVidia or Asus site (I can't remember). I have both the src.rpm and the rpm, for both the kernel module and the driver, and they are all labelled as being for LM7.2, so what I did is: rpm --rebuild ladida.src.rpm Yes. But the the same will not work if you upgrade to 8.1. Read some of the Cooker post regarding the Nvidia drivers or try running the same card in other distros. I am glad you are happy with your card and congratulate you in being successful in getting the driver to work on your system. But even if they worked in most cases, which they do not, I would still not recommend that card for use in Linux. I do not mind having to configure hardware for it to work but I'll be damned if I am going to have to build drivers for it with no guarrantee that they will work just because the microsoft of the hardware world is too paranoid and such an ahole that they will only release binaries. I consider my GeForceII paperweight an educational tool from which knowledge was obtained and I intend to continue passing that knowledge to others. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. And for too many there are now no tomorrows. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nimda virus
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 04:45, you wrote: I caught the tail end of an FBI warning on NPR today that said the Nimda virus affects all Internet computers. That rubs me the wrong way because, as I read later at CNet, it doesn't affect our penguins (as usual). I think the popular media needs to be more careful the way they report these things. This would be great but it isnt possible :) But take heart it happens to everybody, not just linux. Our local TV recently reported on the dealy mennigoccocal virus! The media arent really interested in factual information. The trick is to take what you read lightly and find reliable sources of info. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fetchmail pine not receiving (still, again, always)
not to seem to dense... but for sure you only have 1 network card in this computer? On Wednesday 19 September 2001 02:20, you wrote: Hi Mark (and anyone else who might be entertained by/curious about this saga)! Today I did a complete re-install of Mandrake 8.0 and the picture below represents my current state. I will yet try again on the morrow! I recently got a message from Postfix (YEAH!) from the system. So I get internal mail now. First, here is my .fetchmailrc file: = SNIP = set postmaster WeAreUs set bouncemail set no spambounce set properties poll home.com proto POP3 via eth0 user 'WCBaker' there with password 'xxx' is WeAreUs here = SNIP = Issuing fetchmail with -v flag: message that comes back is: fetchmail: couldn't find canonical DNS name of home.com Issuing from the console: fetchmail mail.home.com message that comes back is: fetchmail: couldn't find canonical DNS name of mail.home.com Issuing from the console: fetchmail home.com message that comes back is: fetchmail: couldn't find canonical DNS name of home.com For all the attempts above, I watched both the status lights on the ethernet card attached to the cable modem and also the desktop Network Monitoring tool, and fetchmail does appear to be doing the DNS query (well, it is certainly doing something on the net but I have no certainty about what it is doing). Neither my host name nor my domain name on the Linux box are home.com (which I figure would really shoot me in the foot, or even higher up). I did call myself WarrenB.com, if that is ok?? It does appear that there's something scwewy going on awound here! Those wascawy winux pwobwems. . . Thanks to all for tolerating this continuing (seemingly forever) thread. . . Cheers! -wowen (that's warren if you are not a bugs bunny fan) - Original Message - From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] fetchmail pine not receiving (still) WC, try typing the fetchmail command and use the -v flag and post the results of the attempt. It sounds as though you're not telling fetchmail the correct information, or theres something scwewy going on awound here! -- daRcmaTTeR =/\=??? |%C++ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is this a joke?
damn, I bet you wish you had read the directions, since if you had, it would have warned you NOT to use the UPDATE to update a kernel. now you can either reinstall, or compile a new kernel. let me ask you, did you take the time to learn how to drive, or read the drivers handbook they give you before you decided you could drive a car, or did you not have time for that either? I always like the sign I have over my desk that says how can there be not enough time to do the job right the first time, if there has to be time to go back and do it right as warrenty? On Wednesday 19 September 2001 03:17, you wrote: Hi all, running Mandrake 8.0. Yesterday I UPDATED the kernel (Using the MandrakeUpdate utility) to be 2.4.3-20 All at a sudden, iptables is not working (cannot share internet and ALSO the DHCP does not work...). But what is worst, my beloved modem does not work anymore (well, KPPP is guessing that ppp is not supported by the kernel...) I am now in the position of not being able to use my Linux machine which was hosting the FATS Modem as well as the PRINTER. Is this a joke or a nightmare? I am a user, not a guru. I have no time to read and study the Kernel howto and so on. Which is the QUICKEST AND SAFEST way to have a system working again? Thanks a lot indeed. /stefano Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] laptops
Hi all I know the topic of video cards has been breached many times but id like an opinion. Laptops offered today usually offer a ati radeon card or an nvidia geforce II. Which one might be better, I have heard about troubles with both. I plan to be running lm8 and win4lin on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PS, HMTL and Web page design
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 00:42, you wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:49:34 -0400, Andre Dubuc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have produced five booklets of 56 to 100 Postscript pages that I would like to place on a website, with the intent that persons could download them, or view them. The pages are heavily formatted (I used Ventura 4.11 in my Windoze days). I'm a total newbie in Web page design. Prior to embarking on another steep learning curve, I wonder if someone might offer some suggestions as to pitfalls I'm certainly going to encounter. I have a few questions that will expose my woeful ignorance: 1. Is there a program that could convert the PS files to HMTL? (Is this a real newbie question, or what!) All my original document files are in .doc Word for Windows 2.0c and StarOffice doesn't recognize this file format. I've since converted everything to sdw files, except of course, the PS files. At a terminal, type man xxx, where xxx is one of: ps2ascii ps2frag ps2pdfps2pdf13 ps2pk ps2epsi ps2lwxl ps2pdf12 ps2pdfwr ps2ps Most notably, you can convert PS to ASCII (plain text) and PS to PDF (thanks to Free Software, you don't have to pay Adobe $$$ to make PDF files!). Converting PS to ASCII will allow you to import the output into a word processor or HTML editor for editing and embellishment. 2. I've discovered Screem but have yet to use it. Is this a good program to use in creating web-pages? Does it accept PS files? Could you recommend anything better? Screem is good, but it doesn't accept PS files (neither do other editors). You should also try Bluefish and Quanta+. Also, take a look at Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/). 3. I would like to give people the option to d/l each booklet in either PS (preferrred) or HMTL format. Each booklet runs anywhere from 1.6MB to 2.2MB. Which (or both) would you suggest? Here's what I would do: 1. Use ps2ascii to convert each PS booklet to plain text. 2. Use a word processor or HTML editor to turn the ASCII text into a HTML page. 3. Either use ps2pdf to turn the original PS files into PDFs, or 'print' the HTML pages to PS files (most apps can do this) and then use ps2pdf on those. The latter should ensure that both the HTML and PDF files look the same. 4. Could you suggest some links that would ease me into this project gracefully? Everything I mentioned is included in Mandrake (except Amaya). No other links are necessary :-) Thanks for any help, Andre Thanks for the great info. I was beginning to despair about the project. Btw, Screem freezes on KDE (locks on Creating desktop), and is usable (sort of) only in Gnome. Probably some dependency that is missing. I'll try Bluefish and Quanta+ instead. Thanks again for the thorough information, Regards, Andre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Will Ximian install fix Gnome?
Use Ximian is you are going to use GNOME. Makes life easier. On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Peter Rymshaw wrote: I've decided that I like Gnome more than KDE and want to learn and begin using it. But I'm having problems beyond the normal (like getting CD floppy access from the desktop or panel. I won't have to manually monunt/unmount will I?) That's not the problem. When I try to select many of the Gnome features, the computer freezes--completely, I have to turn the power off and on (which I worry about each time). I've found that some of these problems have gone away after I've installed more gnome files from the RPMs on CD-ROM, so that might be the heart of the problem (and also what I would consider a serious bug in the program). But I have installed everything that I can find named gnome and there are still problems. (And shouldn't the initial installation of Gnome from the install CD have worked even without what I've done?) What I've done now is gone to the Ximian signt and downloaded their gnome files (and also gnuCash which I had tried to install earlier without success). I figure I should install -core- first, then perhaps -applets-, -libs-, -utils- and the others I found. Ximian says that it is based on gnome 1.4, and instructions are that it is not necessary to first remove regular gnome installation--that it will automatically upgrade files. My hopes are that whatever files are giving me problems will be replaced and most if not all of my problems solved. But I also seem to remember having read somewhere that installation of Ximian must be on a sound gnome base. Do I need to find and fix my gnome problems before installing Ximian? That's the key question. Sorry to go on so long with this. Anyone know? Just occurred to me, I should ask Ximian, even though this is the free download I'm talking about. -- Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] incoming telnet connection
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[newbie] Best NAT Internet Sharing program
What is the best, simple Internet Sharing program to use that shares it's internet connection with NAT? Thanks, Kevin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] SQL database for patient information
Hmm, I would doubt that you could find a generic application that you could for your purposes. Of course you could find something that was close and extend it to suite your needs but I would think the time and effort of understanding how the application was constructed and applying your customizations you'd be better off building it from scratch. It would take you the same amount of time and ultimately be more suited for your needs. For the most part what you want to do is quite easy, and you could have a rudimentary frontend working in about a week or two by just learning a little bit of PHP, HTML, and MySQL. The hard part of this project would be the automatic callbacks and label printing. Is this something that you could work on during the day or would you have to work on it at home during off hours? If you could pay a little for its development you might consider putting an ad in the paper looking for an open-source contractor (or anyone that wants to try). This would be a great job for a student or a person that would like to get some programming experience who has none. Have you searched freshmeat too see if there is something close or if there is callback and printing software that you could plug in? -Original Message- From: Paul Rodríguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:22 PM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] SQL database for patient information I'd like to create a simple SQL database and frontend for doctors to store patient information and automate callbacks, backups, and label printing. Of course I would like this to be an open source project. (GPL'd too, as much as possible). Having had no experience with SQL, I'd like to know the groups opinions/experiences to help choose between the different SQL possibilities. (i.e. mySQL, PostgreSQL) But most importantly, I'd like to learn how not to recreate the wheel. You see, I'm sure at least most of the backend work (while maybe not specifically written to store patient information) may already be written for some other purpose. In the end, it's just a simple database like any other, a few simple fields such as name, address, contact and insurance info, and a few user customizable fields (mostly for history). I've already looked at the open source medical software options and didn't find anything that really suited my needs. Where can I find the information I need to make my efforts as efficient as possible? Thanks everybody! -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] panel resets every time I reboot
Hi - not too new to Gnome, but a bit clueless. I add apps launchers to my Gnome Panel, to make life easier on me. Everytime I reboot, I lose *nearly* all of my additions, though for some reason, a couple of hanged on. Any ideas appreciated! I tried saving the session before I reboot, perhaps it's not a session issue though. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Best NAT Internet Sharing program
Bastille. On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Kevin Fonner wrote: What is the best, simple Internet Sharing program to use that shares it's internet connection with NAT? Thanks, Kevin -- Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] incoming telnet connection
Valerie Cheng wrote: how do i allow my box to allow incoming telnet connection? There is a telnet-server package in Mandrake 8.0 which must be installed and of course if there is a firewall between ssh client and server it must allow telnet acces. However, telnet is insecure because authentication info is sent unencrypted over the network. Openssh is a secure replacement for telnet. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gnome desktop icons after nautilusi
I have had problems with Nautilus, so I used GMC for my desktop. I'm just curious about these error messages I get when I run nautilus from a terminal. Any ideas what kind of a can of worms I'm opening here? Eel-WARNING **: GConf error: Object Activation Framework error: OAF problem description: '' Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1 Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1 Segmentation fault [chal@localhost chal]$ ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #21711 Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Load gmc and look for the desktop section in its preferences. When finished, save your session in the way you would like GNOME to be whenever you load it up. You can run the command save-session --gui to do this. On 17 Sep 2001 10:52:59 -0400, Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will using gmc repopulate my desktop icons? How do I turn gmc desktop control on and off? Running gmc does not set desktop control on, right? -Paul Rodríguez On 18 Sep 2001 00:02:50 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 17 Sep 2001 09:21:35 -0400, Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After starting up Mandrake 8.0f2 in Gnome, I opened nautilus (from a terminal), and deselected Use Nautilus to draw the desktop. This than made my screen blink for a second, and viola, handed control of the desktop back to the gdm. Fine, but where are my icons? Does anybody know how to repopulate a Gnome desktop with icons (i.e. trash and home)? Thanks! -Paul Rodríguez Use Nautilus to draw the desktop means that Nautilus will manage what is on your desktop, including icons. You can either turn that back on, use GMC (the old GNOME default file manager) instead, or have nothing at all (as you have now). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com message.footer Content-Type: text/plain Content-Encoding: 8bit Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Staroffice 5.2 and M8
Hi All I have a problem that is driving me mad.I tried installing StarOffice 5.2 whilst logged in as root. It works fine when logged in as root but will not work from my user session. I tried altering the permissions but they will not stick. I tried un-installing SO5.2 which it told me it had done. I then tried re-installing but this time from a user session. It then tells me that it is still installed. No matter what I try I can't resolve this problem. Can someone please tell how do I get rid of StarOffice completely so that I can start again and then how can I get it to work from a user session. TIA Stewart Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Polite software (was RE: [newbie] Is this a joke?)
This is not a gripe, just an observation, but it seems like for most people (including me) their linux system is usually in a constant state of broken-ness, or in some way always marginally handicapped. Why is that? I realize that software is difficult to write just in general and operating systems and things like desktops are even more difficult, but it appears that there is a fundamental problem with how software deals with exceptions. From my point of view when I install a piece of software and it breaks something that's ok -- i understand things happen, but what infuriates me is when the software says, in effect, nope can't do it. Then I have to spend a week pouring through documentation until usually I give up because I just can't afford to spend that much time tweaking my system, in what seems to be, in vain and I just leave that part broken. It seems to me that the software should know or at least guess better than me about why it can't run and could possibly offer some suggestions. (I realize there is syslog and log files, which are meant for programmers and sysadmins to decipher and not for common users). A lot of the time I find software complains that it can work because of a permission problem, I wish it would just tell me that. In this day with most linux users having internet access why not develop an online problem resolution module that can be plugged into most software projects so when a problem occurs the software itself can query a trouble shooting database to help the user out. Possibly, if embedding this type of functionality is not possible in the actual software an external tool that references this database would work. There is a wealth of information burried in newsgroup and mailing list archives but it's very hard to extract and very time consuming. If this knowledge base could be (albeit slowly) uploaded to a trouble shooting database in about 2 or 3 years there would be a nice repository of info. Things like bugzilla and it's cousins are nice but a lot of work is put on the user to know how to find stuff. This is troubling because the software (i.e. the programmer) knows better than the user, why can't the software trouble shoot itself? It would be great if after you installed the lastest distribution of Mandrake a tool (built-in?) is provided that it would automatically check Mandrake's errata database and synch your system against it. Why not? A lot of work, but certainly doable. When the ordinary user community bellyaches that linux is too hard the linux community bellyaches back about how users are dumb and they (the Lusers) should be more savvy about computer things. My position is if linux software requires a more savvy user, linux software should coach users into this state of enlightenment. There is too much secret knowledge just about computers in general and even more surrounding linux. We all don't have time to become sysadmins and programmers; the time is shortly approaching when linux should recognize this fact. (ps: sorry, I guess this turned into a gripe -- but with all the best intentions and love for Mandrake and Linux, mind you!) -Original Message- From: Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 5:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Is this a joke? I have experienced the exact same problem. The only way I have been able to get around it is to re-run the Internet Connection Sharing script on the Mandrake Control Center. That seems to solve the problem. I have also been experiencing a stop in services recently with ICS. The machine just stops forwarding packets and again, I have to re-run the script. Tried it on 3 machines now with no luck. Try to run the wizard again and see if that helps. At 09:17 AM 9/19/2001 +0200, you wrote: running Mandrake 8.0. Yesterday I UPDATED the kernel (Using the MandrakeUpdate utility) to be 2.4.3-20 All at a sudden, iptables is not working (cannot share internet and ALSO the DHCP does not work...). But what is worst, my beloved modem does not work anymore (well, KPPP is guessing that ppp is not supported by the kernel...) I am now in the position of not being able to use my Linux machine which was hosting the FATS Modem as well as the PRINTER. Is this a joke or a nightmare? I am a user, not a guru. I have no time to read and study the Kernel howto and so on. Which is the QUICKEST AND SAFEST way to have a system working again? Thanks a lot indeed. /stefano Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] panels get worse!
Little help please, having trouble with my Gnome panels, they won't save changes I make. When I logged in last, I just got duplicates of my panels, and when I removed the dupes, and logged back in, I lost one of the two. Still not saving any changes I *mean* to make either. Sorry for my stupidity, but any help appreciated. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] åÓÔØ ÔÕÔ ËÔÏ, ÇÏ×ÏÒÑÝÉÊ ÐÏ ÒÕÓÓËÉ!
In reply to ëíó's words, written Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:35:08 +0600 åÓÔØ ÔÕÔ ËÔÏ, ÇÏ×ÏÒÑÝÉÊ ÐÏ ÒÕÓÓËÉ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could not agree more. Paul -- Blessed are the Geeks, for they shall internet the earth. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] freezes rendering 3d with my nVidia drivers
Robert MacLean wrote: a few things that might help. I'm away from my box right now so i don't have specifics. will check tonight. there is a setting to set yout agp usage. it defaults to 3 with the new drivers. mine only works if i set it to 1. next i assume you had installed mesa before the drivers. i found that if you install the drivers then mesa nothing works. I have the problem that if i try to run anything with mesa full screen it dies. So i run every thing in a window (chromium, tuxracer, quake 3, UT all have options for it, gears is a good check for this as it only is in a window) also are there any warnings or errors in the XFree log file? HTH Robert MacLean Hi Robert. AFAIK, kdm causes the full-screen problem. I had it also. Setup your system so that you don't do the graphical logon, but do a startx from a command line. Then, all your full-screen 3D-accelerated software should work fine. Thats how it worked for me... ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ftp server: maintenance in progress
Hi everyboddy, Since I upgraded to linux mandrake 8.0 my ftp server is unreachable. When I try to connect by ftp to my machine, I got the following message: 500 FTP server shut down (Maintenance in progress). I checked in the DrakConf the services who where running. Proftpd (1.2.2-0.rc1.3mdk) and xinetd (2.1.8.9pre14-5.mdk) where running. I tried the proftpd -t command to check if the were syntax errors in my config file but everything worked properly. Has anybody a solution ? Thanks a lot. Fred Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is this a joke?
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RE: [newbie] Will Ximian install fix Gnome?
-Original Message- From: civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 5:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Peter Rymshaw Subject: Re: [newbie] Will Ximian install fix Gnome? On Tuesday 18 September 2001 17:16, Peter Rymshaw wrote: (..snip..) That's not the problem. When I try to select many of the Gnome features, the computer freezes--completely, I have to turn the power off and on (which I worry about each time). (..snip..) Well, you need to select a GNOME menu for GNOME and forget our integrated menu structure. But actually your freezes are most likely related to a bad default theme from nautilus. Use the security update feature of Software Manager to update mandrake_desk and the problems should vanish. No need to DL Ximian for that. Civileme Another thing is you might test to see if you have bad memory. I had the same symptoms plus constant crashes whenever I ran something bigger than a terminal windows. When I ran a thorough memory test I found that I had a bad stick. When I removed that stick everything ran much better... http://www.teresaudio.com/memtest86/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] incoming telnet connection
you ought to use ssh (daemon is sshd) instead of telnet; however, i don't know off hand what port that is. Either way you'll need to open a port on your firewall if you have one, if you don't have you, your full open already... If you want to go the telnet route open port 23... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] incoming telnet connection No !!You could get hacked!!! Valerie Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do i allow my box to allow incoming telnet connection? __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Postfix relayhost problems
Right i have on my linux box postfix setup to send mail, which worked fine but with one snap, i'll explain, If i used linux to send all mail, the email would go in and out of our internet gateway gathering our internet providers banners on the way out and then back in again. i changed it to use a relay host of our Exchange server to send non-linux username mail, because the linux box will be used for our intranet. This works fine, linux users get their email correctly, exchange users get their email properly, the only problem now is external (ie non-linuxnon-exchange) emails don't work, they are being bounced from the exchange server as receipient unknown. I suspect this may be solved by changing the exchange server config. However, i don't have access to it so what i wanted to do was to set the linux box the relay non-linux user's email except when sent from certain ip address's. Is this possible to do? If so how do i go about doing it? any other suggestions on how i might do this?? cheers Jamie _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] åÓÔØ ÔÕÔ ËÔÏ, ÇÏ×ÏÒÑÝÉÊ ÐÏÒÕÓÓËÉ!
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 17:02, you wrote: In reply to ëíó's words, written Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:35:08 +0600 åÓÔØ ÔÕÔ ËÔÏ, ÇÏ×ÏÒÑÝÉÊ ÐÏ ÒÕÓÓËÉ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could not agree more. Paul as Sly says Abibsoooluutlly. -- Blessed are the Geeks, for they shall internet the earth. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is this a joke?
I have experienced the exact same problem. The only way I have been able to get around it is to re-run the Internet Connection Sharing script on the Mandrake Control Center. That seems to solve the problem. I have also been experiencing a stop in services recently with ICS. The machine just stops forwarding packets and again, I have to re-run the script. Tried it on 3 machines now with no luck. Try to run the wizard again and see if that helps. At 09:17 AM 9/19/2001 +0200, you wrote: running Mandrake 8.0. Yesterday I UPDATED the kernel (Using the MandrakeUpdate utility) to be 2.4.3-20 All at a sudden, iptables is not working (cannot share internet and ALSO the DHCP does not work...). But what is worst, my beloved modem does not work anymore (well, KPPP is guessing that ppp is not supported by the kernel...) I am now in the position of not being able to use my Linux machine which was hosting the FATS Modem as well as the PRINTER. Is this a joke or a nightmare? I am a user, not a guru. I have no time to read and study the Kernel howto and so on. Which is the QUICKEST AND SAFEST way to have a system working again? Thanks a lot indeed. /stefano Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Accessing my files at home ??
This sounds like a good idea. How would one get instructions on how to set this up that are very good and step by step? Thanks. Marcia On Wednesday 19 September 2001 05:56, Franki wrote: What about just using Webmin it has upload/download apps in there.. so you can move files back and forth just using your browser.. they can be anywhere on your linux box and as long as your webmin login has permissions for it,, you will be able to get them.. Also, its SSL secure, which doesn't hurt either.. easier then setting up a portal for it.. rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Will Ximian install fix Gnome?
A login is a core OS function, and has nothing to do with what you have installed. Have you configured a firewall? I know that the Bastille firewall setup process gives the option of denying direct logins to root as a security precaution. That way, a cracker must crack a user account before they can attempt to get root access. What security setting did you choose when you installed Mandrake? I think the medium setting (the default) does not lock out direct root access, but the higher settings do. I would strongly suggest that you keep things as they are. A root login is not recommended at all, and most experienced users _never_ log in as root. It is far more secure to log in as a user and then use the su command to switch users to root. On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 02:51:54 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You assume correctly. I would type in the root information, in the localhost login screen. Super user name, then super user password and receive Login Failed. I am going to strip all and reinstall. It may have a lot to do with dependencies. I think I only checked KDE, upon initial installation and even parts of that were unchecked. I could of unchecked what I needed. So it's best to reinstall, and If I find something I don't want later. . . Thank you so much for the help! Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I assume that by localhost you mean the login prompt. If so, you need to log in as root, not su. su is a console command which stands for switch user; it is not a user in itself. On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:36:15 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You answered all my questions and It hinders on one factor only. Initial installation I left almost all checkboxes unchecked. I did not want items installed that I do not need. So I must assume when I cannot log in at localhost as the su, something is lacking. So it is best to add all then go back and remove. I assumed doing it the other way would work. A good learning experiment. Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:14:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope you have broad shoulders. I am getting no where and it may be your fault. You are helping me, because of the problems you are dealing with. Is it possible to have more than one desktop? Of course. GNU/Linux is all about choice :-) KDE bye, bye. The help section is beautiful. As I get to items such as type in the following command, it is unreadable. (special code?!!) I have no internet hook up on the linux yet. Checking out Gnome, I visited there site. Is the version you downloaded the one that has all the Java capabilities? Java has nothing to do with the desktop environment. You can get a Java Runtime Environment at java.sun.com. Is it possible to log in as su at localhost instead of user? Localhost is your computer name, not a user name. You _can_ log in directly as root (that's the superuser's name), but it is recommended that you do everything as a user and su (switch user) to root only when you need to (e.g. when installing RPMs). I am getting lazy. I too have the CD's. I noticed when checking out the rpm's installable, installed windows nothing that I have installed is showing. If the RPM is on your system doing an upgrade manually will ignore or override RPM? I guess we are to assume that the RPM and manual installs if done correctly will place files in the same locations on the file system? I did find a site that explained the drawbacks of using RPM. Do you know of a way to get the items off of the CD's without using RPM's? I'm not too sure what you mean here. If you want to look _inside_ RPM packages, you can do this with mc (Midnight Commander), a console file manager. Tools like Mandrake's Software Manager, GNOME's gnoRPM and KDE's KPackage all interface with the RPM system, and so can correctly install RPMs. Upgrading Mandrake as a whole (e.g. from the CDs) respects the existing RPM database, and upgrades rather than replaces it. Also, you can use the console RPM app to install packages. Kathy Peter Rymshaw wrote: The serious problems with gnome seemed to be fixed (I did find still another gnome RPM. Maybe that did it I still can't understand why it was necessary to do it manually, though. --- Peter Rymshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've decided that I like Gnome more than KDE and want to learn and begin using it. But I'm having problems beyond the normal (like getting CD floppy access from the desktop or panel. I won't have to manually monunt/unmount will I?) That's not the problem. When I try to select many of the Gnome features, the computer freezes--completely, I have
Re: [newbie] what is wrong with dependencies
I agree 100%. I was simply trying to point out that auto-updating dependencies would create the problems that Window$ has. To solve a real problem (incompatible DLLs), Microsoft has opted to go the hardware route -- hard drives are cheap. Unfortunately, it still doesn't solve the problem, and unless you use all Windows XP apps you still will be faced with the problem (but that's probably part of M$ marketing campaing). Apple OS X and Linux/Unix have approached this problem from a different angle and is much preferred. While having to deal with dependencies can be frustrating, at times, installing a new app doesn't break existing ones (well, unless you use --force :)). Joe On Tuesday 18 September 2001 11:55 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:21:10 -0500, Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know dependencies are a pain, but so is Windows when some program being install takes it upon itself to update various DLLs that a new app needs, but breaks existing apps in the process. It's such a problem that evidently XP has given up on the shared DLLs and each app will now have them in their own folder. This is a VERY BAD idea. All it does is lead to resource (drive space, memory, CPU usage, etc.) wastage. Why is The GIMP only about 20MB when inatalled, while Adobe Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro can take up hundreds of megs? Because The GIMP relies on what's already there. The developers don't have to bother with reinventing the wheel; they can use shared libraries like libjpeg and libpng to do simple things like displaying images, giving coders more time to improve their own app. If you upgrade your libjpeg (which can display JPEGs) and libpng (which can display PNGs), you will be upgrading _all_ the applications that use those libs, including Mozilla and Konqueror. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Me, Linux, or my !@#$%^ ISP
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:38:47 +0100 ai4a [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: I am running LM 7.2 with netscape (the one that comes with LM 7.2). I have been running this version for about 10 months. For the last 2 months I have been having trouble connecting to internet sites. Before the trouble started, everything worked AOK for about 8 months! I can connect to my ISP OK. I just cannot connect to internet sites. Some sites I can connect to some I cannot. The problem started out where I could not connect to internet sites using windows or linux. Now the ISP has gotten Windows working ok, but linux still will not work. Sometimes I cannot access any internet sites, and sometimes I can access some sites but not most sites. At the moment I can access the following: http://dailynews.yahoo.com www.google.com I cannot access: www.nytimes.com www.cnnfn.com http://investing.schwab.com www.schwab.com My ISP tells me the problem must be mine (because I use linux, which they cannot even spell). They say I am the only one having problems. I am probably the only linux user they have (it is a small world where I live). Here's a guess. Because you had the problem originally with both OS, I think your ISP may have changed the DNS. Ask them to give you two dns#'s and compare them to what you have in /etc/resolv.conf If they're different, edit /etc/resolv.conf to reflect the one's your ISP provided you with. You MUST do this either su or logged in as root. HTH, Mike -- Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
Hi, For the internet, stick with RGB; most browsers don't support displaying CMYK images (correctly or at all). Also, most browsers support a very limited colour palette, so even though RGB covers a smaller portion of the colour spectrum, it is MORE than adequate for the amount of colours supported by browsers. HTH, David Charles On 19 Sep 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote: Thanks, David. That clears that one up, I've had that question for a long time. How about for graphic design on the internet? Is there a quality or other difference between RGB and CMYK? -Paul Rodríguez On 19 Sep 2001 00:15:35 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I quite often work with Photoshop (have been for years), and can tell you that a LOT of graphics/printing/publishing professionals use Photoshop. As for Cyan Magenta Yello blacK (CMYK) it is 4 colour seperation process used for making films that are used when printing (not bubble jet/laser jet printing, but printing press printing) high quality images/colour layouts for magazines, colour papers, lithographic reproductions of art, etc. NO professional in ANY publishing/graphics field would EVER use RGB when making films for pre-press/production. RGB (Red Green Black) has major limits pertaining to decent reproduction of the colour spectrum. Anyways, this is just to let you know, that CMYK is NOT just something that never is needed; like I said before, it is the ONLY way to go when producing any works (that are to be taken seriously by professionals). David Charles On 18 Sep 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote: =_1000872956-779-48 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: journaling and upgrading (Re: [newbie] a filesystem question)
Charles A. Punch wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday 17 September 2001 10:57 am, Matt Greer escribió: on 9/17/01 10:20 AM, Tom Brinkman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I'd recommend switching to a journaling FS ASAP. You should have already. What exactly is a journaling file system? What does it mean that it journals? http://www.google.com/search?q=journaling+file+systembtnG=Google+Search Also, with 8.1 around the corner, what does it take to upgrade? If I were to upgrade 8.1 over my 8.0 system, do most things remain intact? Do I need to reconfigure everything? Anything to watch out for? I never upgrade. I always do fresh installs. I have never upgraded either. It seems that all the experts on this list are against it, but you can also do a fresh install without formatting your home partititon. I've only done it that way once and I'm not sure what you want to remain intact. I think any apps that you replace will have to be reconfigured. The advantage to me, was to keep my data intact. OS Upgrades are evil, and should be avoided. Even on my large enterprise servers, when it's time for a new OS, I do fresh installs. Some things I've done to aid this: I use seperate filesystems for all major areas of the system. When it's time to re-install, I can save many of my apps, and my home directories. Then the install only affects the system portions of the disk. A typical cross section of one of my systems might look like: / | /usr | Systems area. /var | A seperate disk if possible /tmp| /opt (where I install apps. Very often an NFS mount) /usr/local (for apps specific to a particular box) /usr/src (for source code, and kernels) /home (um.. home directries. Normally an NFS mount) /archive (just a stash. A place to store stuff) - and so on - When I do an install, the only area(s) that get reformatted are /, /usr, /var, /tmp The rest I leave alone. This has been a very successful approach for me. Also, by keeping the system on a seperate (small) disk, you will see some performance improvements, and less loss in the case of a disk failure. There is the occational app that might need re-installing, or rebuilding because of large changes in libs. But as a whole, it works out very well for me. Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] alternatives to windows programs
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 20:04, you wrote: Hi, For the internet, stick with RGB; most browsers don't support displaying CMYK images (correctly or at all). Also, most browsers support a very limited colour palette, so even though RGB covers a smaller portion of the colour spectrum, it is MORE than adequate for the amount of colours supported by browsers. That is incorrect. RGB supports more color than CMYK does, by a rather large margin. CMYK is generally a poor, but required, color space. This page has a good breakdown of the two gamuts, and the differences between additive and subtractive color. http://web.wi.mit.edu/graphics/pub/photoshop/colman.htm Matt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PS, HMTL and Web page design
In reply to Andre's words, written Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:58:25 -0400 Btw, Screem freezes on KDE (locks on Creating desktop), and is usable (sort of) only in Gnome. Probably some dependency that is missing. I'll try Bluefish and Quanta+ instead. Screem dies on my machine also. Quanta works really nice, so I stick with that. Paul -- Blessed are the Geeks, for they shall internet the earth. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Polite software (was RE: [newbie] Is this a joke?)
The hardware drives the software. I am an X-Electronics employee. Greedy, time equals money, perfection a must. QUALITY suffers. Many a time items are shipped off to market that are not what they claim to be. A mistake made in a production line. A deal made with the next in line, (no charge). A niche made in the market or packaged in a box that it really does not belong to. It is a game of chance by the consumer. Mark Johnson wrote: Do you think if someone or a group could provide a framework dedicated to supporting this scenario it could help open-source developers and users in terms of both time and money? Or do you think it wouldn't have a very significant effect on these inherent hurdles? Do you think such a framework is even feasible? Are most open-source developers self trained or do most have some sort of educational background like a university or tech school? (Not that there are probably too many universities or tech school that teach good software engineering) I wonder if a payed subscription to this type of framework would be effective. Would people pay to subscribe to a automatic trouble shooting repository. I'm guessing not... -Original Message- From: civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark Johnson; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Polite software (was RE: [newbie] Is this a joke?) This is not a gripe, just an observation, but it seems like for most people (including me) their linux system is usually in a constant state of broken-ness, or in some way always marginally handicapped. Why is that? I realize that software is difficult to write just in general and operating systems and things like desktops are even more difficult, but it appears that there is a fundamental problem with how software deals with exceptions. Well, the real story is that we don't spend enough money on software. If you want good error messages, it has to come from the programmer. The programmer needs time and training for this to happen. Right now, we are against a wall with people regularly working 14-hour days just to get a distro to you. Bugs cannot be solved because the model of inspection is proven not to work, by no less than Microsoft where every programmer is shadowed by a tester. Proper design is needed so the job gets done right the first time--then the level of bugfixes will be lower, the interaction of various pieces of software will be lesser, and the initial product will be much better. This requires training, and this training is _VERY_ expensive. Take 30 programmers out of action for 3 weeks to train them, make another three weeks by magic for them to plan out the activities of the distro, add another 5 weeks to get the text of error messages meaningful and right and translated into 40 odd languages, and pay for a couple of trainers (peanuts compared to the lost time expense) then somehow by magic keep up with the competition while you are missing half your between distro programmer time. It is expensive to have good programmers. We have the best because many are here because this is free software, but still the amount of time required for this job is enormous and most work grueling hours. So it is expensive. So if enough people really want more informative error messages and better wizards and tools, it can be done. The obstacle is really cost. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LM8.1 B3
Richie de Almeida wrote: I have no idea as I've never had to try! My best guess is that when a New user logs on to KDE, there must be some script that creates a few of the basic system folders ('.kde' and Autostart for example) and symbolic links to log on a user to KDE. Perhaps you could tweak that script (if it exists or what its name is if it does exist I have no clue!). Try lurking around the KDE mailing lists maybe there's someone over there who know how to help. Hi. U guys aren't talking about /etc/skel, are you? Thats a generic setup for new users, AFAIK. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Staroffice 5.2 and M8
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:15:11 +, Stewart Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All I have a problem that is driving me mad.I tried installing StarOffice 5.2 whilst logged in as root. It works fine when logged in as root but will not work from my user session. I tried altering the permissions but they will not stick. I tried un-installing SO5.2 which it told me it had done. I then tried re-installing but this time from a user session. It then tells me that it is still installed. No matter what I try I can't resolve this problem. Can someone please tell how do I get rid of StarOffice completely so that I can start again and then how can I get it to work from a user session. TIA Stewart There is a flag you need to put on the end of the command to initiate the installation. I think it is -net. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gnome desktop icons after nautilusi
Are you using any 'exotic' fonts? Try switching the font settings in the GNOME Control Centre to something ordinary, like Helvetica or Times. If that doesn't do it, try the following. Edit /etc/gconf/1/path. This is what mine looks like. You should be able to just copy and paste this into your file: # This file stores the addresses of config sources for GConf # When a value is stored or requested, the sources are scanned from top to # bottom, and the first one to have a value for the key (or the first one # to be writeable) is used to load/store the data. # See the GConf manual for details # Look first in systemwide mandatory settings directory # (commented out until xml backend knows how to be read-only for users) xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory # Now see where users want us to look - basically the user can stick # arbitrary sources in a ~/.gconf.path file and they're inserted here include $(HOME)/.gconf.path # Give users a default storage location, ~/.gconf xml:readwrite:$(HOME)/.gconf # Finally, look at the systemwide defaults # (commented out for now) xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults Ensure you have a /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults dir set up with the right permissions: chmod -R 755 /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults Be sure you have no applications depending on GConf (e.g. Galeon 0.12+) running and then run: gconftool --shutdown GConf will then restart when it is required. On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:56:02 -0400, Charles A. Punch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had problems with Nautilus, so I used GMC for my desktop. I'm just curious about these error messages I get when I run nautilus from a terminal. Any ideas what kind of a can of worms I'm opening here? Eel-WARNING **: GConf error: Object Activation Framework error: OAF problem description: '' Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1 Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1 Segmentation fault [chal@localhost chal]$ ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user #21711 Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Load gmc and look for the desktop section in its preferences. When finished, save your session in the way you would like GNOME to be whenever you load it up. You can run the command save-session --gui to do this. On 17 Sep 2001 10:52:59 -0400, Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will using gmc repopulate my desktop icons? How do I turn gmc desktop control on and off? Running gmc does not set desktop control on, right? -Paul Rodríguez On 18 Sep 2001 00:02:50 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 17 Sep 2001 09:21:35 -0400, Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After starting up Mandrake 8.0f2 in Gnome, I opened nautilus (from a terminal), and deselected Use Nautilus to draw the desktop. This than made my screen blink for a second, and viola, handed control of the desktop back to the gdm. Fine, but where are my icons? Does anybody know how to repopulate a Gnome desktop with icons (i.e. trash and home)? Thanks! -Paul Rodríguez Use Nautilus to draw the desktop means that Nautilus will manage what is on your desktop, including icons. You can either turn that back on, use GMC (the old GNOME default file manager) instead, or have nothing at all (as you have now). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] different user permissions for 'guest account' query
hi etharp, i'm not worried about guests having their own permanent storage, i just want to give them internet facilities if they visit andi i was worried that creating a new user with the same privileges as my normal user might be too risky given that i installed as 'security=low', i guess the question could be rephrased as 'what can an ordinary user do to the system in a low security setting that s/he can't do in a high security setting?', then i would try to disable those things that weren't internet related for the new user only bascule On Wednesday 19 September 2001 1:51 am, you wrote: the major diff. as I see it, is that the user guest will have it's own home directory and all the users guest will share the hard drive space and settings. if they each have their own account, each user will be assigned a secure space on the hard drive, just accessable by them and root, and they will have a choice about letting other users see their work and desktop, etc. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MODEM
At 16:30 9/18/2001 -0400, you wrote: Hi, sounds to me like there is probably an auction at eBay selling an ISA USR V.Everything, being sold by a guy named Dean (wink) :P Hrm... Seems I should have been more clear on this. I just got mine from ebay for 20 bucks. Seriously though, with Win98, pretty much ANY modem will do, and if you want to use the same modem when dual booting with LM8, you definitely do NOT need to spend anywhere NEAR USD$170 - USD$250. Just find ANY decent (i.e. NOT winmodem) well-known (i.e. 3com/USR/etc.) PCI modem (easier time with PCI than with ISA/EISA), many of which you can get for WELL UNDER USD$100 (and if you are looking for used items on eBay, then you can probably find a beaut for approx usd$25). Thats just MY USD$0.02... David Charles On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Dean Morrell wrote: If you have an available ISA slot, check out USRobotics V.Everything at ebay. These are business class modems that sell for US $170 for internal and US $250 for external. They are great modems. At 12:10 9/17/2001 +1200, you wrote: I would appreciate any suggestions as to a suitable modem for a dual boot setup. Using Windows 98 and Mandrake 8. Thank you Ivor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Dean -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property. -Thomas Jefferson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Dean -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers. - Voltaire Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Polite software (was RE: [newbie] Is this a joke?)
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 18:18, you wrote: Do you think if someone or a group could provide a framework dedicated to supporting this scenario it could help open-source developers and users in terms of both time and money? Or do you think it wouldn't have a very significant effect on these inherent hurdles? Do you think such a framework is even feasible? Are most open-source developers self trained or do most have some sort of educational background like a university or tech school? (Not that there are probably too many universities or tech school that teach good software engineering) I wonder if a payed subscription to this type of framework would be effective. Would people pay to subscribe to a automatic trouble shooting repository. I'm guessing not... Software engineering of the type required for a whole distro simply isn't taught. The production of such requires small-group dynamics and use of statisitcs and consensus-building tools so everyone can feel creative and a winner. Without that, you might as well try to herd cats. Civileme -Original Message- From: civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark Johnson; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Polite software (was RE: [newbie] Is this a joke?) This is not a gripe, just an observation, but it seems like for most people (including me) their linux system is usually in a constant state of broken-ness, or in some way always marginally handicapped. Why is that? I realize that software is difficult to write just in general and operating systems and things like desktops are even more difficult, but it appears that there is a fundamental problem with how software deals with exceptions. Well, the real story is that we don't spend enough money on software. If you want good error messages, it has to come from the programmer. The programmer needs time and training for this to happen. Right now, we are against a wall with people regularly working 14-hour days just to get a distro to you. Bugs cannot be solved because the model of inspection is proven not to work, by no less than Microsoft where every programmer is shadowed by a tester. Proper design is needed so the job gets done right the first time--then the level of bugfixes will be lower, the interaction of various pieces of software will be lesser, and the initial product will be much better. This requires training, and this training is _VERY_ expensive. Take 30 programmers out of action for 3 weeks to train them, make another three weeks by magic for them to plan out the activities of the distro, add another 5 weeks to get the text of error messages meaningful and right and translated into 40 odd languages, and pay for a couple of trainers (peanuts compared to the lost time expense) then somehow by magic keep up with the competition while you are missing half your between distro programmer time. It is expensive to have good programmers. We have the best because many are here because this is free software, but still the amount of time required for this job is enormous and most work grueling hours. So it is expensive. So if enough people really want more informative error messages and better wizards and tools, it can be done. The obstacle is really cost. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] linux live
Hi Next week starting Monday on Linux.coms Linux live is beginner week. There will be a thing on installing red hat 7.1 and a thing on configuring a fire wall. Thought it might help some people ;) Robert MacLean Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Will Ximian install fix Gnome?
On Tuesday 18 September 2001 17:16, Peter Rymshaw wrote: I've decided that I like Gnome more than KDE and want to learn and begin using it. But I'm having problems beyond the normal (like getting CD floppy access from the desktop or panel. I won't have to manually monunt/unmount will I?) That's not the problem. When I try to select many of the Gnome features, the computer freezes--completely, I have to turn the power off and on (which I worry about each time). I've found that some of these problems have gone away after I've installed more gnome files from the RPMs on CD-ROM, so that might be the heart of the problem (and also what I would consider a serious bug in the program). But I have installed everything that I can find named gnome and there are still problems. (And shouldn't the initial installation of Gnome from the install CD have worked even without what I've done?) What I've done now is gone to the Ximian signt and downloaded their gnome files (and also gnuCash which I had tried to install earlier without success). I figure I should install -core- first, then perhaps -applets-, -libs-, -utils- and the others I found. Ximian says that it is based on gnome 1.4, and instructions are that it is not necessary to first remove regular gnome installation--that it will automatically upgrade files. My hopes are that whatever files are giving me problems will be replaced and most if not all of my problems solved. But I also seem to remember having read somewhere that installation of Ximian must be on a sound gnome base. Do I need to find and fix my gnome problems before installing Ximian? That's the key question. Sorry to go on so long with this. Anyone know? Just occurred to me, I should ask Ximian, even though this is the free download I'm talking about. Well, you need to select a GNOME menu for GNOME and forget our integrated menu structure. But actually your freezes are most likely related to a bad default theme from nautilus. Use the security update feature of Software Manager to update mandrake_desk and the problems should vanish. No need to DL Ximian for that. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Polite software (was RE: [newbie] Is this a joke?)
Do you think if someone or a group could provide a framework dedicated to supporting this scenario it could help open-source developers and users in terms of both time and money? Or do you think it wouldn't have a very significant effect on these inherent hurdles? Do you think such a framework is even feasible? Are most open-source developers self trained or do most have some sort of educational background like a university or tech school? (Not that there are probably too many universities or tech school that teach good software engineering) I wonder if a payed subscription to this type of framework would be effective. Would people pay to subscribe to a automatic trouble shooting repository. I'm guessing not... -Original Message- From: civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark Johnson; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Polite software (was RE: [newbie] Is this a joke?) This is not a gripe, just an observation, but it seems like for most people (including me) their linux system is usually in a constant state of broken-ness, or in some way always marginally handicapped. Why is that? I realize that software is difficult to write just in general and operating systems and things like desktops are even more difficult, but it appears that there is a fundamental problem with how software deals with exceptions. Well, the real story is that we don't spend enough money on software. If you want good error messages, it has to come from the programmer. The programmer needs time and training for this to happen. Right now, we are against a wall with people regularly working 14-hour days just to get a distro to you. Bugs cannot be solved because the model of inspection is proven not to work, by no less than Microsoft where every programmer is shadowed by a tester. Proper design is needed so the job gets done right the first time--then the level of bugfixes will be lower, the interaction of various pieces of software will be lesser, and the initial product will be much better. This requires training, and this training is _VERY_ expensive. Take 30 programmers out of action for 3 weeks to train them, make another three weeks by magic for them to plan out the activities of the distro, add another 5 weeks to get the text of error messages meaningful and right and translated into 40 odd languages, and pay for a couple of trainers (peanuts compared to the lost time expense) then somehow by magic keep up with the competition while you are missing half your between distro programmer time. It is expensive to have good programmers. We have the best because many are here because this is free software, but still the amount of time required for this job is enormous and most work grueling hours. So it is expensive. So if enough people really want more informative error messages and better wizards and tools, it can be done. The obstacle is really cost. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Same install many PC's
Thanks for the reply. I have been looking at my test PC which also has Mandrake Linux 8 on it. In total df shows just under 1.8Gig used. At that size I might only need one CD and a controlling floppy. I am wondering if it would be practical to tar and bzip2 the partitions, which are / /home /usr /var and set up a floppy and CD, or even a bootable CD to clone the first PC. At the moment I think I need to partition and format the disc and mount the partitions then unpack the various compressed files to the correct places then run lilo to end up with the copy. I expect I will need to learn quite a bit such as how to partition the discs without user intervention but is it practical? Norm Michael D. Viron wrote: During an expert installation of MandrakeLinux 8, it should ask if you want to create a replication floppy--at least it does with 7.2 not sure about 8.0 or 8.1. I'm not sure how exactly it works, but it should be pretty close to what you want. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 12:46 PM 09/19/2001 -0400, you wrote: Hi, I recently installed MandrakeLinux 8 for a school and set up Squid as a proxy server for their Win98 PC's They are now interested in having Linux for a number of their Desktop PC's. I would be happy to install it but, as many of them are identical, I wondered if it would be possible to install on one then create a cd with a copy of it and have some means of automatically reinstalling the identical configuration on the others. I realise that it would need things like host names to be different on each one but I think it should be possible to write some small script to allow that sort of question to be asked. Does anyone have any idea how I could go about this? Thanks. Norman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sleeping monitor
At 02:58 PM 9/19/2001 +1000, you wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:17:37 +0200, The Spider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a certain amount of time of inactivity, my monitor enters power saving mode and then sleep mode. How can i change this? (LM8.0) The KDE control panel has power settings for that. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is this a joke?
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 09:17, Stefano POGLIANI wrote: Hi all, running Mandrake 8.0. Yesterday I UPDATED the kernel (Using the MandrakeUpdate utility) to be 2.4.3-20 All at a sudden, iptables is not working (cannot share internet and ALSO the DHCP does not work...). But what is worst, my beloved modem does not work anymore (well, KPPP is guessing that ppp is not supported by the kernel...) I am now in the position of not being able to use my Linux machine which was hosting the FATS Modem as well as the PRINTER. Is this a joke or a nightmare? I am a user, not a guru. I have no time to read and study the Kernel howto and so on. Which is the QUICKEST AND SAFEST way to have a system working again? Thanks a lot indeed. /stefano First of all INSTALL the old kernel from your CDs Next READ the security advisory about the kernel. It says you will break your system if you use Update. Then download the kernel and install it rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.7-12.3mdk.i586.rpm rpm -ivh kernel-headers This will work and will give you a new boot point, without disturbing your old system. There is no supermount in this kernel. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] incoming telnet connection
No !!You could get hacked!!! Valerie Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do i allow my box to allow incoming telnet connection? __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Polite software (was RE: [newbie] Is this a joke?)
This is not a gripe, just an observation, but it seems like for most people (including me) their linux system is usually in a constant state of broken-ness, or in some way always marginally handicapped. Why is that? I realize that software is difficult to write just in general and operating systems and things like desktops are even more difficult, but it appears that there is a fundamental problem with how software deals with exceptions. From my point of view when I install a piece of software and it breaks something that's ok -- i understand things happen, but what infuriates me is when the software says, in effect, nope can't do it. Then I have to spend a week pouring through documentation until usually I give up because I just can't afford to spend that much time tweaking my system, in what seems to be, in vain and I just leave that part broken. It seems to me that the software should know or at least guess better than me about why it can't run and could possibly offer some suggestions. (I realize there is syslog and log files, which are meant for programmers and sysadmins to decipher and not for common users). A lot of the time I find software complains that it can work because of a permission problem, I wish it would just tell me that. In this day with most linux users having internet access why not develop an online problem resolution module that can be plugged into most software projects so when a problem occurs the software itself can query a trouble shooting database to help the user out. Possibly, if embedding this type of functionality is not possible in the actual software an external tool that references this database would work. There is a wealth of information burried in newsgroup and mailing list archives but it's very hard to extract and very time consuming. If this knowledge base could be (albeit slowly) uploaded to a trouble shooting database in about 2 or 3 years there would be a nice repository of info. Things like bugzilla and it's cousins are nice but a lot of work is put on the user to know how to find stuff. This is troubling because the software (i.e. the programmer) knows better than the user, why can't the software trouble shoot itself? It would be great if after you installed the lastest distribution of Mandrake a tool (built-in?) is provided that it would automatically check Mandrake's errata database and synch your system against it. Why not? A lot of work, but certainly doable. When the ordinary user community bellyaches that linux is too hard the linux community bellyaches back about how users are dumb and they (the Lusers) should be more savvy about computer things. My position is if linux software requires a more savvy user, linux software should coach users into this state of enlightenment. There is too much secret knowledge just about computers in general and even more surrounding linux. We all don't have time to become sysadmins and programmers; the time is shortly approaching when linux should recognize this fact. (ps: sorry, I guess this turned into a gripe -- but with all the best intentions and love for Mandrake and Linux, mind you!) Well, the real story is that we don't spend enough money on software. If you want good error messages, it has to come from the programmer. The programmer needs time and training for this to happen. Right now, we are against a wall with people regularly working 14-hour days just to get a distro to you. Bugs cannot be solved because the model of inspection is proven not to work, by no less than Microsoft where every programmer is shadowed by a tester. Proper design is needed so the job gets done right the first time--then the level of bugfixes will be lower, the interaction of various pieces of software will be lesser, and the initial product will be much better. This requires training, and this training is _VERY_ expensive. Take 30 programmers out of action for 3 weeks to train them, make another three weeks by magic for them to plan out the activities of the distro, add another 5 weeks to get the text of error messages meaningful and right and translated into 40 odd languages, and pay for a couple of trainers (peanuts compared to the lost time expense) then somehow by magic keep up with the competition while you are missing half your between distro programmer time. It is expensive to have good programmers. We have the best because many are here because this is free software, but still the amount of time required for this job is enormous and most work grueling hours. So it is expensive. So if enough people really want more informative error messages and better wizards and tools, it can be done. The obstacle is really cost. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Me, Linux, or my !@#$%^ ISP
I am running LM 7.2 with netscape (the one that comes with LM 7.2). I have been running this version for about 10 months. For the last 2 months I have been having trouble connecting to internet sites. Before the trouble started, everything worked AOK for about 8 months! I can connect to my ISP OK. I just cannot connect to internet sites. Some sites I can connect to some I cannot. The problem started out where I could not connect to internet sites using windows or linux. Now the ISP has gotten Windows working ok, but linux still will not work. Sometimes I cannot access any internet sites, and sometimes I can access some sites but not most sites. At the moment I can access the following: http://dailynews.yahoo.com www.google.com I cannot access: www.nytimes.com www.cnnfn.com http://investing.schwab.com www.schwab.com My ISP tells me the problem must be mine (because I use linux, which they cannot even spell). They say I am the only one having problems. I am probably the only linux user they have (it is a small world where I live). Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Same install many PC's
During an expert installation of MandrakeLinux 8, it should ask if you want to create a replication floppy--at least it does with 7.2 not sure about 8.0 or 8.1. I'm not sure how exactly it works, but it should be pretty close to what you want. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 12:46 PM 09/19/2001 -0400, you wrote: Hi, I recently installed MandrakeLinux 8 for a school and set up Squid as a proxy server for their Win98 PC's They are now interested in having Linux for a number of their Desktop PC's. I would be happy to install it but, as many of them are identical, I wondered if it would be possible to install on one then create a cd with a copy of it and have some means of automatically reinstalling the identical configuration on the others. I realise that it would need things like host names to be different on each one but I think it should be possible to write some small script to allow that sort of question to be asked. Does anyone have any idea how I could go about this? Thanks. Norman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problems with Imac DVSE and Mandrake 8
Hello List! I am new to Mandrake, but have been using other distributions for about 5 years. I am a *nix sys admin for an ISP and this one has me stumped. I have a iMac DV/SE with a 400mhz PPC G3 Proc, 256mb Ram, 10gb drive and DVDRom drive. The install went great, X works and everything seems good.. But: When In X the screen is shifted about 1 inch to the right. MacOS had a control panel to fix this but I can't seem to find anything similar in Mandrake. I checked list archives, a google search turned up nothing... I am stumped.. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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[newbie] Netgear FE411 PCMCIA support
Hello, Can someone please tell me if Netgear FE411 PCMCIA card is supported by Mandrake 8.0 ? If so, can anyone tell me how to install/configure it? I spent 4 hours straight trying to make it work, still no result... Any help is greatly appreciate it? P.S. I am 99% new to Mandrake and Linux.. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] panel resets every time I reboot
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:32:09 -0400 (EDT), Manuel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - not too new to Gnome, but a bit clueless. I add apps launchers to my Gnome Panel, to make life easier on me. Everytime I reboot, I lose *nearly* all of my additions, though for some reason, a couple of hanged on. Any ideas appreciated! I tried saving the session before I reboot, perhaps it's not a session issue though. I had this problem pop up from out of nowhere when I was using the GNOME from Mandrake 8.0. The problem went away after upgrading to Ximian GNOME. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LM8.1 B3
On Wednesday 19 September 2001 07:22, Mohammed Arafa wrote: richie thanks a bundle it worked :)) Glad I could help! umm now how do i do it for ALL the other users without going into each and every /home/user/.kde/Autostart dir? I have no idea as I've never had to try! My best guess is that when a New user logs on to KDE, there must be some script that creates a few of the basic system folders ('.kde' and Autostart for example) and symbolic links to log on a user to KDE. Perhaps you could tweak that script (if it exists or what its name is if it does exist I have no clue!). Try lurking around the KDE mailing lists maybe there's someone over there who know how to help. In the meantime, don't go changing any scirpt until you positively know what to do! HTH Richie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] blocking??
Hi all, Does anyone know a way using shell/perl scripting and ipchains to block all urls that request cmd.exe, root.exe, admin.dll and all the others??? (from port 80 of course) I am getting thousands of sustained requests from infected NT/2000 servers and its chewing alot of bandwidth.. I may have to shutdown my server for a couple of days if it doens't stop as its bound to cause a spike in usage and my bill.. anyone got any ideas??? rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com