Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction
John Wilson wrote: On October 21, 2004 04:11 pm, Elliot Somers wrote: This is a pretty general question, I've heard it said by one party that linux/unix is virus proof, other's say it's that virus authors go after the big guys, so MS, wintel servers, etc. What I want to know is what's true and what's not. Also I'm curious not only if it is, or not, but why? If there's any references you all know of to point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Elliot Goodness, here we go again. To a degree it's true that virus writers go after the big guys. It's also true that virus/trojan/spyware writers go after the easiest system to use to propagate their nasties and that also happens to be Windows. One, in fact the only, reason the crackers charge after Windows is that from 95 to XP Pro most windows boxes run in administrator mode or with administration rights widely given. Even when they are not things like adding new software default to that. Toss in Microsoft's much vaunted ease of use mantra which has led to VBA, scripting languages that operate system wide, browsers and email clients that happily install just about anything so that you won't have to trouble yourself about it. Oh...and browsers and email clients that will follow HTML code anywhere no matter where it goes. What all this boils down to is that a cracker can devise a simple program that will install itself on your Windows box without your so much as even knowing about it. Nice, eh? And Windows users have shown themselves the most undiciplined of surfers, well perhaps that title goes to AOL users, who will go to a web site and download any old crap, usually spyware, so they can get the video feeds of porn, stock tickers, latest prices of medicines or whatever. As for wintel servers on the internet they are a definite minority when compared to Linux, one of the BSDs or UNIX. But they are as easily breakable as the desktop Windows on which they're based and for the same reasons. Only a near total moron would put anything on a windows server on the internet these days and for good reason. Admittedly this is much simplifed and much understated, beleive it or not. Try Bugtraq or CERT is you want to know more. You might also want to google virus writing to see how much there actually is out there. Now, Linux, in common with almost all POSIX compliant software also has an administrators account and you can, if you want to, set up as insecure a system as any old Windows box. Responsible Linux distributions will insist that you have at least one regular user as well as root and will boot you in as that. Now it's possible for a virus to be written for Linux and it's been done. But, unlike the Windows situation, there is absolutely nothing that can be done in user space that overlaps with or conflicts with the root/system space. In short, a virus cannot propagate itself. Oh, it can mess up the user's home in short order but not the machine itself. Spyware can find out everything it wants about you but nothing at all about the root or any other user on the box. Nasties do exist for Linux but they are much further and fewer between than the almost daily attacks on Windows. And they are, in general, far easier to defend against. Also, it often takes less than 24 hours for a package to be fixed after a vulnerability is found, often before it's exploited, and the fix sent out. Compare that to the rather cavalier attitude of Micosoft to such things. ttfn John Wow! what a reply! :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Problem with my web site
Bryan Phinney wrote: I have just noticed a very troublesome problem with my web site and was hoping that someone here could point me in the right direction. I am using Postnuke CMS version .750 Gold, MySQL server and PHP 4.3.8. The site displays in IE, Opera fine but whenever I hit it from a Mozilla browser, including Firefox, Mozilla or Netscape, I get a really strange corrupted display. Another interesting item, if you go to the site as the root site using http://kislinux.org/ You get the corrupted display within Mozilla. If you go to http://kislinux.org/linux/ which is an alias for the same directory, the site comes up just fine. It is really bugging the crap out of me. If anyone uses php, apache, and wants to take a look and make suggestions, I am all ears and would really appreciate the help. Wish I had an answer for you but I don't. If it were me I'd set up a proxy so that I could capture the HTTP between the browser and the server and look for any differences between the two requests. That might tell you something, it might not... Good luck! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Conférence à Bordeaux.
Warly wrote: Je serai sur Bordeaux Mardi 19 octobre pour une conférence à l'ENSEIRB de 11h à 12h30 sur le thème de l'économie du libre et Mandrakesoft. Si des gens sont intéressés pour passer et discuter un peu. I ran this through a French-English translation robot: I will be on Bordeaux Tuesday October 19 for a lecture to the enseirb of 11H to 12h30 on the theme of the economy of the free one and Mandrakesoft. If people are interested to pass and discuss a little. I think the French made more sense. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 802.11G support
Ken Sieving wrote: I have purchased a new HP model ZE4805 which has a Broadcom 94306 chipset. Does anyone know if 10.1 supports this out of the box? Thanks. I had to use ndiswrapper to wrap the Window's drivers for the 94306 chipset (PCMCIA) in MDK 10.0 and 10.1. Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Using Midnight Commander
et wrote: A MUCH better answer, really was yes, rtfm. along with complaining that the previous answer did not include 'RTFM', imho. But I knew Aron would (and probly had begun to) rtfm. BTW, I count Aron as a frien from the OT list, and I am sure that if he had had further problems, he would have asked a more specific question. the question, as I read it, was is it worth looking for the answer, or is this something that can not be done. also IMHO, RTFM is not an aswer to any specific question, thank you. ET IMHO, your posts to this thread are a waste of bandwidth. Please refrain from posting unless you've got something useful to contribute. This *is* the newbie list. Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Gnome panels
Hi, I'm using 10.1 CE. After having used KDE for a while I decided that I would give Gnome a try. All was going well until this morning when I launched gnome - I had no panels. I tried deleting all gnome config directories in my home directory, still no panels. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gnome panels
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Wednesday 13 October 2004 07:50, Brandon Rife wrote: Hi, I'm using 10.1 CE. After having used KDE for a while I decided that I would give Gnome a try. All was going well until this morning when I launched gnome - I had no panels. I tried deleting all gnome config directories in my home directory, still no panels. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brandon Go back to KDE. That fixed me up, thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gnome panels
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 22:50, Brandon Rife wrote: Hi, I'm using 10.1 CE. After having used KDE for a while I decided that I would give Gnome a try. All was going well until this morning when I launched gnome - I had no panels. I tried deleting all gnome config directories in my home directory, still no panels. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brandon I'll assume you're in the GUI login - I've experimented with it and Gnome almost always chokes after a few logins; although from runlevel 3 using Xtart it works like a charm. -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses --- Data is a lot like humans: It is born. Matures. Gets married to other data, divorced. Gets old. One thing that it doesn't do is die. It has to be killed. -- Arthur Miller Nope, I was starting from run level 3. I created a .xinitrc file in ~ to launch Gnome. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Gnome panels
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Thu, 2004-10-14 at 07:09, Brandon Rife wrote: Nope, I was starting from run level 3. I created a .xinitrc file in ~ to launch Gnome. Install Xtart and don't muck around with your .xinitrc unless you truly know what you're doing - at least it allows you to run any number of installed window manglers and desktop environments - and is really nice and easy to install (urpmi Xtart) That's good to know. Thanks for the advice. Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Security Updates
On Friday 08 October 2004 09:24 am, Stew Benedict wrote: You currently see updates hitting community main? I was under the impression that that is static atm. Went through this last night with a support person and it looked like the hdlist on proxad was dated Sept15. I haven't gotten any updates from main or contrib for quite a while. Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KMail smtp authentication problem
On Thursday 07 October 2004 08:27 pm, Chris wrote: On Thursday 07 October 2004 09:53 am, Brandon Rife wrote: Hi, Is anyone using using Kmail to send mail through smtp.comcast.net? I'm trying out KMail in lieu of Thunderbird because I like the KDE integration but I am unable to send email. The error is: Authentication failed. Most likely the password is wrong. The server responded: Authentication failure I've re-entered the password 10 times and I'm sure that it, as well as the user id, is correct and I do know that smtp.comcast.net requires authentication. The same user id, password works fine with pop3 - I have no problem fetching mail using KMail. I'm probably mindlessly missing something Thanks! Brandon If comcast is anything like Earthlink, shouldn't it be smtpauth.comcast.net? Also, the only EL will work for me in Kmail is in the security setting Encryption is set to TLS and Authentication is set to login In the EL support group they tell me that CRAM-MD5 will work, however it gives me the same error as you. Nope, smtp.comcast.net is correct. I need TLS and CRAM-MD5 to authenticate. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Setting wlan0 connection timeout
Hi, I have wired and wireless PCMCIA cards in my laptop. At home I connect wireless, at work, I am wired. The wired interface, eth0, fails almost instantly on boot at home - good. At work the wireless interface, wlan0, takes a couple of minutes to fail - bad. Is there anything that I can do to make the wireless interface fail more quickly? Thanks, Brandon (currently wired at work:) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Setting wlan0 connection timeout
On Friday 08 October 2004 07:21 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 08 October 2004 05:03 pm, Brandon Rife wrote: Hi, I have wired and wireless PCMCIA cards in my laptop. At home I connect wireless, at work, I am wired. The wired interface, eth0, fails almost instantly on boot at home - good. At work the wireless interface, wlan0, takes a couple of minutes to fail - bad. Is there anything that I can do to make the wireless interface fail more quickly? Thanks, Brandon (currently wired at work:) Brandon, put this in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 DHCP_TIMEOUT=5 This of course, assumes that you are using DHCP. You can play with the value (5) to get the best performance. HTHs. :-) PS If nothing else, compare what is in ifcfg-eth0 to ifcfg-wlan0. Thanks, I'll gve a try - Let you know how it works on Monday. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] KMail smtp authentication problem
Hi, Is anyone using using Kmail to send mail through smtp.comcast.net? I'm trying out KMail in lieu of Thunderbird because I like the KDE integration but I am unable to send email. The error is: Authentication failed. Most likely the password is wrong. The server responded: Authentication failure I've re-entered the password 10 times and I'm sure that it, as well as the user id, is correct and I do know that smtp.comcast.net requires authentication. The same user id, password works fine with pop3 - I have no problem fetching mail using KMail. I'm probably mindlessly missing something Thanks! Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KMail smtp authentication problem - SOLVED
On Thursday 07 October 2004 10:53 am, Brandon Rife wrote: Hi, Is anyone using using Kmail to send mail through smtp.comcast.net? I'm trying out KMail in lieu of Thunderbird because I like the KDE integration but I am unable to send email. The error is: Authentication failed. Most likely the password is wrong. The server responded: Authentication failure I've re-entered the password 10 times and I'm sure that it, as well as the user id, is correct and I do know that smtp.comcast.net requires authentication. The same user id, password works fine with pop3 - I have no problem fetching mail using KMail. I'm probably mindlessly missing something Thanks! Brandon I finally found a how-to. I believe the problem was that I wasn't specifying CRAM-MD5 as the autentication method. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Konqueror/toolbar persistence
This isn't a big deal but it is getting annoying. Everytime I run Konq I have to reconfigure the toolbars the way I lke them. It appears that the toolbar state is not being persisted when Konq is closed. Anyone else seeing this on 10.1CE? Anyone have a fix? Thanks, Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror/toolbar persistence
Brandon Rife wrote: This isn't a big deal but it is getting annoying. Everytime I run Konq I have to reconfigure the toolbars the way I lke them. It appears that the toolbar state is not being persisted when Konq is closed. Anyone else seeing this on 10.1CE? Anyone have a fix? Thanks, Brandon I put up with this for a couple of weeks while looking for something obvious like a Save Settings menu item. 30 seconds after I post to the list I see the Save view profile menu item under the Settings menu. Never mind*sheepish grin* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] qcad library. How to?
aron Smith wrote: BTW .zip files are for windows That's a ridiculous statement. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1CE
Paul Kaplan wrote: My initial impression is that 10.1CE is faster than 10.0 Official. Can anyone confirm or would people like a sample of what I've been smokin'? Paul I don't see too much difference. I does seem to me though that XFree was faster then Xorg. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calling Firefox from Thunderbird
Russell Butler wrote: Hi all Hopefully a simple question: I have just installed Firefox and Thunderbird on my MK10 setup -KDE desktop and am most impressed. If there is a web link in an email, clicking on it opens konqueror. Is there any way to use Firefox as the default agent? I have set Firefox with the default file association for html, but konqueror still opens. Thanks for help Russell The following works for me in KDE. In your $HOME/.thunderbird/random chars.default directory look for a file called user.js (if you see a file called prefs.js you're in the right directory). If you don't find user.js create it. Add the following line to user.js user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.http, /usr/bin/firefox); Note that your path to firefox may be different than mine. I also had to do something similar to get Thunderbird to handle the mailto protocol inside of Firefox. In the $HOME/.mozilla/thunderbird/random chars.default directory I created a user.js file and added the following line: user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.mailto, /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird); Good luck! Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 and 10.1 mouse driver
Lee Wiggers wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:27:36 -0600 Scott Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 04:18:09 +, Lee Wiggers wrote Hello list Recently my test box in 10.0 Official noted new hardware on boot. With vast stupidity, I followed along and it changed my mouse driver. The mouse hiccups and goes into fits when I kvm to another box and back. I saw it as an opportunity and reformatted, then installed the new 10.1. It does the same thing. I swapped the kvm outputs with another box to make sure it was not a hardware problem (Belkin Omni-view with perfect track record). It is most definitely a mdk thing. Anyone have a suggestion or experiencing the same problem? I have not had satisfactory performance since 9.2 and, frankly, I'm growing weary. My mouse kvm problems usually end with a switch to a USB keyboard and mouse (KVM with USB connections). Different Kernel versions just seem to have some aversion to mice on KVM switches. IMHO it's entirely an Linux Kernel bug that should have been put to rest a long time ago. My final solution was an inexpensive PS2-to-USB adapter cable to make all my keyboard/mouse problems USB problems. Seems USB mice just don't suffer from the same confusion. Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) rant Let me tell you what pisses me off. I have been using the same mouse, same keyboard, and same chair since 7.2. They have all worked fine with Generic Wheelmouse until now. And never did the distro detect new hardware and do me in. Every time I was done in it was an upgrade and that occurs regularly. Upgrade and your sound doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your burner doesn't work anymore. Upgrade and your ears turn green. In other words upgrade means fsk-up as much as it means improves. I'm sick of it. I burn with Nero on a 2k box. I listen to oggs and mp3s with Winamp on a 2k box. It works...always...period. I keep my files, connect with the net, and serve my site on the mdk 9.2 box. That's all important, but pretty basic crap for a hot shot super distro like mdk. /rant Call me a troll if you wish, but I've tried hard to swallow this shiet. How is a beginner supposed to embrace this crap? The current wheelmouse is a Logitech, BTW, and I was wrong about it living through all. Previous was a Microslop wheelmouse. When I bought the Logitech, I plugged it in and it worked in place of the other. Now it does not, because 10.1 detected a change two years later, I suppose? Let me also say that I can probably fix it by identifying the driver on the 9.2 box and forcing it on the 10.1 box, but why do I have to do this? Is this a computer operating system or a frustration generator? I can listen to my wife and get frustrated, although I'll admit mdk works faster. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com AMEN! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Synatics Touchpad
I have a synaptics touchpad and a USB wheel mouse. I've installed the synaptics driver so that I can scroll and double click on the touchpad. This works great provided that I have or have had the USB mouse puggged in. If I boot without the USB mouse plugged in then it seems my touchpad functions without the synaptic driver, no scrolling, double-clicking, etc. I'm using Xorg but I experience the same behaviour under XF. Any ideas? Thanks! Brandon Section InputDevice Identifier synaptic Driver synaptics Option Protocol auto-dev Option Device /dev/psaux Option MinSpeed 0.06 Option MaxSpeed 0.12 Option BottomEdge 4200 Option SHMConfig on # Option Repeater /dev/ps2mouse Option LeftEdge 1700 Option FingerLow 25 Option MaxTapTime 180 Option MaxTapMove 220 Option FingerHigh 30 Option VertScrollDelta 100 Option AccelFactor 0.0010 Option TopEdge 1700 Option RightEdge 5300 EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier layout1 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard InputDevice synaptic AlwaysCore InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer Screen screen1 EndSection Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Wireless PCMCIA Card
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Brandon Rife wrote: I'm looking for a wireless PCMCIA card that works 'out of the box' with MDK 10 and XP. Can someone suggest such a card? Thanks! I will probably get flamed for saying this, but the Microsoft MN-520 works with Mandrake 9.2, and I would think 10.0 I think it also works with XP. ;) On the other hand, it doesn't exactly work 'out of the box' in Linux. You have to add 3 lines to the pcmcia config file so that the proper driver is loaded for the card. If they have any left, Office Max was closing them out for less then $20. Mikkel Mikkel, Thanks, it is brave of you to make the suggestion. :) Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Wireless PCMCIA Card
I'm looking for a wireless PCMCIA card that works 'out of the box' with MDK 10 and XP. Can someone suggest such a card? Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Proxim Orinoco gold a/b/g card
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Re: [newbie] URPMI wiped
eric jackson wrote: - Original Message - From: Johan Sch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] URPMI wiped On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:46:42 -0400 eric jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Amy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] URPMI wiped Johan Sch wrote: Hi list, It happened too me twice today .. urpmi taken permanent vacation after update .. it seems that it just wipes dependencies .. even its own .. after some years of using and trusting it I was let down. Well I have seen this some time ago. Kindly point me to site were I can try to find the mail please. Maybe if it is short kindly explain please. I did a repair by popping cd 1 and upgrade same system .. some side effects .. nvidia must be re-istalled .. urpmi in MCC additional sites wiped .. maybe something else I stiil have not discovered. Thanks I've had that happen to me. Basically what you have to do is go find the rpm packages to install yourself by spelunking through ftp and stuff, and install everything package by package. Annoying, but I managed to do it with the help of my friend, and I'm fairly new to all this stuff. I had the same thing happen to me this morning. I don't have urpmi or rpmdrake any more. I found both packages but when I click on the icon it asked what program it should use to open the rpm with and I don't know what to answer. The whole menu entry for Packaging has disappeared. How do I deal with that? Eric Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, Eric I know how you feel. There is not a lot of advice available on this . to date .. The only answers to this question so far on this list are 1-The way Amy did with the help of a friend,, Amy .. kindly if possible the required rpms to restore urpmi please. ** 2- What I did . re-install . after saving home direcrory in safe place . if you have done updates with the --noclean option all rpms should be here ../var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ ..copy them to save place. ** here is rsync command I use .. su - -c rsync -va --ignore-existing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ \ /mnt/hde14-backup/mdk10/updates10/RPMS/ ** here is the rsync for the home directory.. su - -c rsync -av --delete /home/ \ /mnt/hde14-backup/mdk10-home/ ** You have to create the destination dirs first .. adjust the destination to your system. Maybe you know even more than I do about this. Goodluck Johan Sch ** From what I was told, urpmi is a fairly simple program, so it just removes what needs to be removed, then installs the new stuff. But when one of the things it removes is one of it's dependencies, it'll remove itself too because it wasn't told ~not~ to. Good luck on getting that rolling. I haven't had a problem with it again since I had to reinstall it the hard way. -- Johan Sch Registered Linux User #33034 May this be a good day for learning I did get things straightened out. I had a urpmi rpm on a CD. I used rpm to install it but everything else I tried to install failed because of dependencies. I used urpmi remove.media -a (I think) to remove my old listings. Next I added new sources for urpmi to use. After I finished that I used urpmi to add rpmdrake, gurpmi, drakxtools, drakxtools-newt and drakconf to my system. Everything seems to be fine. Eric Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com When this happened to me I ran the update from the 10CE cd. This installed the missing rpms and left all the newer rpms alone. After the update, I just had to run urpmi --auto-select to bring everthing up to date. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Kbear FTP problems
Michael Tienhaara wrote: Hi, I tried to use Kbear for the first. I have no problem connecting to a website. After connecting, I see that the login and password was accepted followed by this message: 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode. But, after I connect I can see no directories and files at the website. I also see the word reading and below it 0%. After a wait of about 4 minutes the file system on the website appears. However, it takes another 3 to 4 minutes to open any directory. Every directory change requires another 3 minutes. Why would Kbear run so slowly? Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I had the same problems when trying to connect to my FTP service which is hosted on a WinXP box. You might try turning of passive ftp for that site to see if that helps. As for me, the more I used KBear the more bugs I ran into. Although I don't care much for the UI I'm now using gftp, it is at least, dependable. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DrakeConf is uninstalled
Brandon Rife wrote: I absently mindedly uninstalled drakconf, at least that's what I think its called. It's the Mandrake app that corresponds to the Configuration/Configure your computer menuitem. At this point I'm still very dependent of the GUI to get things done in Linux, especially configuration related stuff. If some kind soul would give or point me to instructions ofn gettting this app back via the console I'd much appreciate it. I'm running MDK 9.2. Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Nevermind! urpmi drakconf fixed me up. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound is kaput
Amichai Rotman wrote: On Friday 20 February 2004 05:01, Brandon Rife wrote: The sound driver info is below. I've tried both the maestro and snd-es1968 drivers with no luck. I do know that the maestro module was working. Should it matter, this problem is occurring on a Micron Transport ZX laptop. Vendor: ?ESS Technology Alternative drivers: ?snd-es1968 Bus: ?PCI Bus identification: ?125d:1978:144d:3240 Location on the bus: ?0:c:0 Description: ?ES1978 Maestro 2E Module: ?maestro Media class: ?MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO Hi Brandon, The problem seems to be the aRts Server. I had a similar problem. This is what I've done: I started by running draksound. If it detects the soundcard, it will configure the right driver (module) if it doesn't work, click the Trouble shooting button. It gives you a few suggestions to follow. Try it. If that doesn't work, try running alsaconf. That solved it for me. ;-) Good Luck ! Write back if you didn't succeed, I have a few more ideas. .::. Amichai Rotman Short text-only e-mails: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hello Ami, Thank you my friend, your advice fixed the problem! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sound is kaput
Hello, I must have done something to break my sound card. It worked a couple of days ago but now when KDE is initilaizing I get the following error message. Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory) The sound server will continue, using the null output device. I get a similar error when loading Gnome. I'm running MDK 9.2. Thanks for any help you can offer! Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound is kaput
Lanman wrote: On February 19, 2004 09:03 pm, Brandon Rife wrote: Hello, I must have done something to break my sound card. It worked a couple of days ago but now when KDE is initilaizing I get the following error message. Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory) The sound server will continue, using the null output device. I get a similar error when loading Gnome. I'm running MDK 9.2. Thanks for any help you can offer! Brandon Brandon; Please do everything in your power to disable HTML encoding in your emails, as this is the prime way that many viruses are transmitted around the Internet. Many people on this list will simply not respond to your problems due to this fact alone. Sometime in the next week, you will receive an email regarding the protocols on this list. Please do your best to study and adopt those protocols to ensure a pleasrable experience for all. In the meantime, try using the MCC hardware panel to re-detect your sound card and asign a proper driver module to it. It would also be a big help if you could include additional info regarding which version of Linux and the brand and model of sound card. Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com The sound driver info is below. I've tried both the maestro and snd-es1968 drivers with no luck. I do know that the maestro module was working. Should it matter, this problem is occurring on a Micron Transport ZX laptop. Vendor: ?ESS Technology Alternative drivers: ?snd-es1968 Bus: ?PCI Bus identification: ?125d:1978:144d:3240 Location on the bus: ?0:c:0 Description: ?ES1978 Maestro 2E Module: ?maestro Media class: ?MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Evolution mail client mail folders and saved email
Has anyone else experienced the Evolution mail client losing their email addresses and saved email? This has happened to me twice. Funny thing is that Evo did not lose my mail account info so its not like my whole config was lost. At this point I've switched to Thunderbird. Thanks, Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Urpmi database locked
Lee Wiggers wrote: I closed a shell in the middle of an urpmi update. (Don't ask) Now I get 'urpmi database locked' when I attempt to update. How do I get myself out of this one? Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Reboot your computer... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Buying notebook: tough decision. Help.
I was about to ask the same thing. I'm using a Dell 1100 el cheapo with great satisfaction with mdk 9.2 and win2k in VMware. Love it. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I'm running off of a Dell Inspiron 4150, I've had no prolems. Other than a few routine _fixable_ or known issues with most laptops... ACPI support is one. I still can't plug-in/un-plug my power nor can I close the lid, so to speak. Without Linux freezing. But apparently those two issues are completely fixable, there are a couple of mailing lists and forums, specifically, for linux on laptops... some informational websites ect ect I'm sure if you google the laptops names that you are choosing from you will find a couple of people that maintain that same type of install that you do or that you plan to do. I was lucky enough to contact someone that had the exact same laptop and is a Linux power user of sorts. He helped me greatly. This type of buddy buddy attitude can only be found by the people that know your exact situation. Kind of like It's a Jeep thing you wouldn't understand, same idea. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Konsole Logs? Is there another way to view the details of root sessions... and if so? Where are the elusive little buggers!
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Re: [newbie] Re: Where's my mail?
I have no idea why your messages aren't showing up, but you can find the messages in your home directory. All the mozilla stuff is in a directory in your home directory called .mozilla, so if you're browsing in Konqueror, set it to view hidden files; if you're doing this from the command line, use the command ls -a (without the quotes, of course) rather than plain ls. Inside that directory, there will be a directory for each of your profiles. change to that and you'll see a directory with an incomprehensible name like ivj8x58h.slt. Inside that is your Mail directory which contains your Inbox and any other mail folders you have created. These are stored as humungous text files, so just open the apropriate one in a text editor like Kwrite and use Find with a word that's likely to be in the mail you're looking for. Tedious, I know, but useful for emergencies like this. BTW, I always set Mozilla Mail to only delete messages on the server when I delete them in Mozilla - that way any mail I don't delete is safely sitting on the server (this feature is also very useful if you're connecting from more than one computer - in fact it's the main reason why I use Mozilla rather than KMail). Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Either that, or you can copy and paste everything from Linux in the mail folder of your Mozilla profile. Onto a disk/cd-r or a windows based partition and move it over to a windows based computer/OS. Simply Place the files that you copied over in a fresh profile of mozilla following the directions from the previous poster above. The profiles work and act _ALMOST_ exactly the same between the two operating systems. So if you have a dual booting system you can share the same profile if needed. So it should work if the messages are actually there. Regards, Brandon Erik Bertelsen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm baaaaaaacccckkkkk!
Whoa... your doing homework... 'some' people are really anal about the reply-to settings. Deal, I look before I post so should you ;) If the guy says he can't do it, HE CAN'T DO IT stop harrasing the poor man. JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:26:48 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, in all seriousness, the reply-to screws up people on mailingg lists. If your isp makes you fill it in, is there anyway you could set it to whatever list you are posting to? I just communicated with another IStop user, there is no such requirement, and they've never encountered anything like what lanman is referring to. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Resetting media sources to the original ISO's mdk9.2
How would one go about setting up the urpmi sources as that of what was originally offered through the mandrake ISO's, you see, I'm having issues with the Easy URPM site, and of course after little reading I blasted the original media that I had on my distro. By typing in the wonderful urpmi.removemedia -a However, now when I try to 'addmedia' it tells me that 'it cannot update medium 'whicheveroneIwastryingtoupdate' Regards, Brandon Erik Bertelsen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Resetting media sources to the original ISO's mdk9.2
Worked like a charm thanks! Johan wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2003 21:43, Brandon Erik Bertelsen wrote: How would one go about setting up the urpmi sources as that of what was originally offered through the mandrake ISO's, you see, I'm having issues with the Easy URPM site, and of course after little reading I blasted the original media that I had on my distro. By typing in the wonderful urpmi.removemedia -a However, now when I try to 'addmedia' it tells me that 'it cannot update medium 'whicheveroneIwastryingtoupdate' Regards, Brandon Erik Bertelsen *** If you have removed all your media like in... urpmi.removemedia -a You will find that your installation CD's are missing from the list To re-add your cd sources do:. Put CD1 in the drive and in root terminal type: urpmi.addmedia --distrib cdrom removable://mnt/cdrom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Missing Screensavers
Patrick Coffey wrote: Hello, I just installed a fresh copy Mandrake 9.2 with KDE, when I go to Configure Desktop and go under screensavers there are none listed. I've installed just about every KDE rpm I could find and I couldn't find a solution that worked in the archives. Does anybody have an idea? --Pat _ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com When you update, they show up. It worked for me :). It's in the Mandrake Control Center... -- Software Packages ( or something like that ) --- Update Packages ( or something like that ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Are you ready for a MOVE?
Wow, is all I can say... I'm trying it tonight -- Original Message -- From: Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:43:53 +0100 [from Mandrake-Linux Dot Com] http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/mandrakemove/ ~~ The MandrakeMove Download Edition is a new product based on Mandrake Linux 9.2 which provides a complete personal desktop operating system on a bootable CD. With MandrakeMove, bring your Mandrake Linux system everywhere: demo it, use it to connect to the Internet, listen to MP3s, watch DivX movies -- the possibilities are endless! In addition, the MandrakeMove Boxed Edition provides the ability to save configuration and personal data to a USB key. There's no need to install a system before using it: MandrakeMove runs on the fly directly from a CD on any supported PC. ~~ Regards, Thorsten Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake 9.2. Many proprietary apps gone...
Everything for Mandrake and Gnome are gone. I still have KDE so I can still activate things and use the OS to a degree. But things like... Mandrake Control Center 9.2, Configure your computer, HardDrake, DrakConf ( sorry if I'm repeating things these are just my visual methods of reaching a goal.. so I'm listing what I would usually use to accomplish such a task ) Evolution, ect... all gone... I seriously don't understand what happened. The only major changes that I have made was to update urpmi @ http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and installed Never Winter Nights ( and played a little ) It seems that everything is fine EXCEPT all the mandrake stuff that makes the operating system so valuable. I still have internet access and the computer functions properly, imagine in windows, you just LOSE the 'add/remove programs', or for that matter the entire control panel... and all applications that came with the disks... Thanks in advance, Brandon Erik Bertelsen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How do I cause all activated hyperlinks to be opened with the same browser?
So far I've used the KDE Control Menu to raise the priority of my browser of choice, specifically, Mozilla Firebird. However, I'm still noticing a few incidences where other programs direct hyper links to a different browser. For example, Evolution, opens Galleon. So I un-installed Galleon ;).. Then it started using Mozilla, so I un installed it ( which caused problems with my ability to view flash media, so I re-installed it ) While Mozilla was un-installed Evolution pointed to Konqueror... It seems I can't win with this program. Also, Kopete, does something similarly annoying, it does use my first choice browser, however, it downloads the link locally, and if there are any relatively referenced hyper links in the page I can't continue navigation without copypaste, which is slightly agitating. Is there any way to fix these programs, such that they deal with hyper links in a manner that would be expectable? Thanks in advance, Brandon Erik Bertelsen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] using a shortcut to gain access to a PPOE connection to the internet
Greetings all, I am using a PPOE connection to the Internet. The connection works perfectly, however, I would like to create a shortcut on my desktop that initializes the connection. So far the only way that I can create the connection is through: Configure Your Computer ( Mandrake Control Center, which requires root access ) -- Network Internet -- DrakConnect -- and Pushing the connect button in the dialogue window. Subsequently, another method is to create the connection in a manner that accesses the connection at boot up. Which, takes a very long time in my opinion. Does anyone know of a way to create a shortcut to a specific connection profile on the desktop, without having to use root access and without loading the connection at boot. Regards and Thanks in advance, Brandon Erik Bertelsen www.Bertelsen.ca - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Distribution: Mandrake Linux 9.2 Dell Inspiron 4150, 1.7 P4-mobile, 256 MB ram, ATI 7500 32 MB, 30 GB HDD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Connecting From 9.2
Hi all.
I finally got 9.2 installed yesterday. It has so many changes it's
almost like learning a new distro. I'm sure I'll have many questions in
the coming weeks, but for now my question is: How do I connect to the
Internet from my desk top. At this point my only choice is to open the
Mandrake Control Center select Networking and click on the
connect/disconnect button. There just has to be an easier way.
Thanks again for the help.
LTR }}:{(
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On Sunday 23 November 2003 11:05 am, Brandon Erik Bertelsen wrote:
Greetings all,
I am using a PPOE connection to the Internet. The connection
works perfectly, however, I would like to create a shortcut on
my desktop that initializes the connection. So far the only way
that I can create the connection is through:
Configure Your Computer ( Mandrake Control Center, which
requires root access ) -- Network Internet -- DrakConnect
-- and Pushing the connect button in the dialogue window.
Subsequently, another method is to create the connection in a
manner that accesses the connection at boot up. Which, takes a
very long time in my opinion.
Does anyone know of a way to create a shortcut to a specific
connection profile on the desktop, without having to use root
access and without loading the connection at boot.
Regards and Thanks in advance,
Brandon Erik Bertelsen
www.Bertelsen.ca- [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Distribution: Mandrake
Linux 9.2 Dell Inspiron 4150, 1.7 P4-mobile, 256 MB ram, ATI
7500 32 MB, 30 GB HDD
I always use rp-prpoe instead of drakconnect. You'll need
rp-pppoe-gui-3.5-3mdk
rp-pppoe-3.5-3mdk
(those are on a 10.0 system, you might have older versions on
your CD's. They may have even already been installed.)
After those are installed, run (as root) 'adsl-setup' which
asks you about 6 or 7 questions. It's very easy. Then (as root)
run 'tkpppoe'. That should bring up a little GUI, already
configured for your connection. Click on the tabs on top and
about all you need to change is to check the box by allow use by
non-root users.
When you installed rp-pppoe-gui it should have added a menu
item under Networking | Remote access | Tkpppoe Clicking on
that will start the GUI, with Start, Stop, Exit buttons. You
should be able to start your connection as user by clicking on
Start. There's a little window in the upper left that turns green
when you're connected, turns yellow under data load. If you want
a desktop icon all you need to do is create one pointing
to /usr/bin/tkpppoe . I just start it from the menu, and after
the connection is made, minimize it to the taskbar.
You might wanna watch it for a little while, just under the
little 'green' window there's a moving graph, and numerical
readouts of up and down speeds. 'Course if you minimize it to
the task bar you can bring it back up at any time to check
connection speed.
Now that's all from memory, so before you start, after the
rpms are installed, paste file:/usr/share/tkpppoe/tkpppoe.html
into any browser and read the docs. They're very clear and
simple, even has screen shots ;) If you want even more info
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/rp-pppoe/index.php
--
Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
RE: [newbie] somebody disliking mandrake
Actually, I stay for steve's sigs ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Inhabitant of Zion Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] somebody disliking mandrake I think the main reason I stick around is this list. Its just too entertaining and interesting! So much so its addictive! ROTFLMAO! -- John Willby Registered Linux user number 321644 ICQ: 92791912 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YIM/AIM: vicarofwibley Linux is like a wigwam - No Gates, no Windows, Apache inside. 06:12:10 up 1 day, 19:47, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] somebody disliking mandrake
Having installed Mandrake (v7-9.1) about 30-40 times on various boxes in both personal roles and for professional use - including high security roles, I would offer that my initial reactions to these issues were similar to those of your friend. I'd run into one or another of the issues mentioned below and get discouraged. Many times, I'd find myself on distrowatch and FreeBSD's site considering changing. But each time this happened, I thought I'd challenge myself to learn one more thing about mdk before switching. As an example, I became frustrated several times with the amount of 'stuff' that got installed w/ mdk. I experimented with minimal installs and spending literally hours researching and selecting only those packages in the install that I really needed. One of these attempts left me with a system that ran very well with only a P200, 48MB RAM, and a 6GB disk. But I found that adding new apps later required much more tweaking (and reading) to get running correctly than if I had just let mdk install them in the first place. Research and experimentation told me that doing a larger (though not full) install and then removing extra packages gave me the best results as far as functionality and easy of use/installation. RPM database corruption is another issue I've run across. As maddening as it is, it can be resolved. And the documentation on the security models could definitely be improved, especially at install, but it (and all the individual settings that make up each level) are so easy to customize afterward, that I don't see it as a major problem. Obviously, it's up to your friend/company to decide which distro is best and why. Best wishes, Brandon 1. We're sick of RPM. We've hard RPM break on a few machines already (I think the RPM database becomes corrupted if I remember correctly). Needless to say, it's hard to upgrade your machine when your package manager goes kaput. APT/debs are SO much easier to deal with anyway. 2. Too much crap! Literally, Mandrake has TOO MUCH crap these days. I know Debian is hardly innocent, but the dependency train for whatever reason seems to be much more palatable when using Debian as opposed to Mandrake. Maybe it's all the package/package-dev combo packs that the Mandrake/RedHat people like, I'm not entirely sure. It's just too much honestly. Let me install mySQL and be done with it. 3. The big reason (for me personally), the Mandrake security model is totally whack. Once upon a time, Mandrake used to just run a nightly script which would email an audit of your system to the Administrator letting you know what was wrong. That's all it did, and that was nice. Now there's a set of different (horribly documented) security models that have all sorts of (horribly documented) behavior. I don't mind the security model idea, what I do mind is my system doing things for me (such as changing file permissions) without being explicitly told when and why this is going to happen. This has caused major problems for us on a few occasions and it's simply unacceptable. Maybe we haven't looked in the right place for the documentation, but I've tried to find it in the past with little success. I should have to go reading scripts to find this out. What I've found is that with Debian I have a much better idea what's going on inside our systems. There are no surprises, things so far just straight up work the way we expect them to. We're competent programmers and system administrators, so this is great for us. If I were a newbie, I would definitely still recommend Mandrake. Whatever the security scripts are doing, it IS making the system more secure, but sometimes you don't want that. If I wanted Mandrake to do one thing (short of switching to .debs) to get me back on the Mandrake train: Please explain in absolutely explicit detail the difference between your security modes. You *HAVE* to do this during the install process as well. If I'm rebuilding my firewall, for instance, I don't have the option to go out to the internet to find out what these things mean. This is a very important critical decision that should not be taken lightly. The only way we can properly make that decision is if the knowlege is made available to us when we need it most. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] somebody disliking mandrake
Well, I think the main reason I stick around is the comparative ease of use. -On the business side Some of the companies I deal with are a little skeptical of Linux. Fear of the unknown I suppose. Anyway, they are at least familiar with Red Hat. I tell them that Mdk is very much like RH only (imo) more user friendly. That has more than once, been the deciding factor in letting me bring a box in. I show them that even after I leave, they can continue to easily manage the box. That usually works for the execs. The techs are usually dying to try it out anyway, and it does make an excellent learning platform. This even worked for a company that already had RH. When I showed them the new box, they agreed that it was simpler and easier to use. (I'm not knocking any other distros at all.) -On the personal side I still consider changing now and then. I'm buying a new laptop soon and plan to make that slackware. But for my home/business server, Mdk just does the trick. My desktop is still W2K Pro, and will be till I find something better. (No flames please 1999-today and no blue screens or major issues) Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anarky Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] somebody disliking mandrake Brandon Vanderberg wrote: snip woow ... I really appreciate your experience oppinion ... you've obviously done lots of installs ... I've done a couple too .. but mostly advertising linux to friends or stuff ... and none for companies or stuff ... I'm wondering ... what features made you stick to mandrake not switch? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Firewall Oddities
Take a look at the two-nic firewall sample config. It is substantially different from the one-nic config that many use. I bet you'll find the issue there. On a side note, the configs are very simple. Since I got familiar with them, I haven't gone back to the MCC for firewall management. HTH Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terry Sheltra Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Firewall Oddities I'm having some interesting happenings using the Firewall utility in MCC. I'm using a laptop that has both a wireless card, as well as a wired NIC. My wireless works just fine until I try to turn on the firewall. As soon as I do, the firewall effectively blocks all connections with my wireless card. The only way I can access the outside world with the firewall on is by connecting to a wired network. Running ifconfig shows that my wireless card is eth1 and my NIC is eth0. Any suggestions on what I can do to get the firewall to play nicely with my wireless card? Thanks! Terry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:22 PM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt. On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 08:44, Erylon Hines wrote: Looks like that's whats been done. Any errors trying to access will have a lot to do with DNS updates not showing up on our servers for 24 hours or so (just guessing, but I've seen it before). However, their solution is pretty half-assed, and I can see all kinds of holes in their thinking. The next dns worm that's aimed at them will be getting its address from Google or somewhere similar, and not using the static address like this one apparantly does. Also, I'm beginning to wonder if there isn't more to this worm than the spin doctors would have us believe, because the solution MS may be using seems kind of extreme. They've sacrificed the update feature for hundreds of thousands of users, many of whom are going to become infected in the next 24 hours. A fishy smell, there. This is a perfect example of a Microsoft fix. Avoid the REAL issue and do something different. They're not fixing the initial problem, and they already know that they're boxs can't stand the heat. They're taking the coward's way out. I don't think they're realising that they've just fsck'ed millions of Windows users that don't have a clue about this bug or any of what's been going on. I am just waiting to see what kind of press they're going to release to make themselves look good again - I'm sure it will have heaps of spin in it... -- Sat Aug 16 15:15:00 EST 2003 15:15:00 up 12 days, 19:03, 3 users, load average: 1.52, 1.89, 2.26 - |____ | illawarra computer services| | /-oo /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Microsoft Mandatory Survey (#13) Customers who want to upgrade to Windows 98 Second Edition must now fill out a Microsoft survey online before they can order the bugfix/upgrade. Question 13: Which of the following new Microsoft products do you plan on buying within the next 6 months? A. Windows For Babies(tm) - Using an enhanced click-n-drool interface, babies will be able to learn how to use a Wintel computer, giving them a head start in living in a Microsoft-led world. B. Where In Redmond Is Carmen Sandiego?(tm) - The archvillian Sandiego has stolen the Windows source code and must be stopped before she can publish it on the Net. C. ActiveKeyboard 2000(tm) - An ergonomic keyboard that replaces useless keys like SysRq and Scroll Lock with handy keys like Play Solitaire and Visit Microsoft.com. D. Visual BatchFile(tm) - An IDE and compiler for the MS-DOS batch file language. MSNBC calls it better than Perl. Anyone dumb enough to leave a PC wide open with no protection, and got hit by this worm deserves it - Just as much as someone who runs linux with no security deserves to have their box owned. Bill Gates didn't make people idiots, God did. Hate the user, not the developer. Next... Brandon Vanderberg www.clueless.m$killedmydoggy.andi'mgonnacry.whaaa.com Linux User #34.5 | Linux machine 123amicoolyet472notyet340now?987NO!needlongersig05789 Kernel 9.12.45customsupercoolAllYourThreadsAreBelongToUs Current load = WhoGivesAFlyingFock | Average Load = NoOneDoes Number of times aterm has been run since last reboot = 12,638 (cuz people wanna know that) My signature isn't long enough to make me l33t yet... This computer is %100 Microsoft tolerant. I drive a 1971 Ford Truck. I can work on any part of it, so everybody driving anything else must suck. And the people that make those other cars are trying to take over the world and must be kill- ... er... sued. - B. Vanderberg (about 5 minutes ago) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 10:26, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Anyone dumb enough to leave a PC wide open with no protection, and got hit by this worm deserves it - Just as much as someone who runs linux with no security deserves to have their box owned. Bill Gates didn't make people idiots, God did. Hate the user, not the developer. Next... Brandon Vanderberg __ Feel you're being a bit harsh here. Don't forget that the vast majority of computer users/car drivers/TV watchers have no idea what goes on under the hood only realise this when things go wrong. Ms has been sold on it's ease of use - and people have believed the salesmen (it's also been sold on greater security). By the time a lot of folks find out it's too late, and by that time all sorts of behind the scenes activity has been going on. Remember the greats of the past: Ford Pinto, Firestone tyres, etc. etc.? Blame the developer. Paul M. Yeah, Though I would agree that most do not understand what's going on under the hood, it's the decision not to protect their computer (whatever it's OS) that leaves them open to attacks. It doesn't take an advanced Computer Science degree or even formal computer training to know that systems which are regularly connected to the Internet should be protected - with a good firewall and regular software updates at a minimum. I've found (and firmly believe) that reinforcing this to users is far more productive than blaming the person that wrote the software. And no, I don't really hate users - just bad decisions like not using the tools and advice that are widely available. Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux saves MS's butt.
Stirred up a hornet's nest didn't I? ;) On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:26:47 -0700 Brandon Vanderberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Anyone dumb enough to leave a PC wide open with no protection, and got hit by this worm deserves it - Just as much as someone who runs linux with no security deserves to have their box owned. Operating systems, like any consumer product, *should* be useable by anyone, and the security aspects should be relatively transparent, requiring only that they receive due and proper notification of the need to patch, as Mandrake does and Microsoft does not. OSs should be useable and they are. It's just not safe (wise) to connect them to the Internet without protection. As for notification, both Mdk and MS send patch updates. And both advise using some kind of firewall. Bill Gates didn't make people idiots, God did. Hate the user, not the developer. I find it ironic that you act so arrogant (or in your terms l33t) about this issue, then blast (in your sig) other people for showing thier pride in their ability to run a smooth/custom/useable machine. Sure, the uptime sig thing is maybe a bit superfluous, but take it easy and save the trolling for the OT list. Next... Not arrogant and certainly not l33t (whatever it means). And taking a jab at Stephen's sig is not blasting you or anyone else. He can take it, so cowboy up. Troll on, troller. Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Installing on a SCSI system
Same setup here. IDE CDROM and SCSI disks. Try getting into the SCSI BIOS. (With Adaptec, you'll see a Ctrl A prompt after your PC BIOS loads.) There, you should be able to find the option that makes it work. If it's not Adaptec, there should be something similar. HTH, ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Miark Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:55 AM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] Installing on a SCSI system I have 8.2 on my gateway/firewall machine. I'd like 9.1 on there, but the damn thing won't boot to the CD. If I go into the SCSI bios and monkey with it that the drive is basically hidden, I can boot to CD; but because the hard drive is hidden, I can't install! The comp's bios is set to boot from CD first, but the SCSI always takes over. How do I exit this loop? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mdk 9.1- how to upgrade??
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 19:05, Kou Shan Shan wrote: Hi To be frank, it took me a few months to set up some of the good stuff in my three-month old mdk 9.0, like Exceed XDMCP remote login, Samba, hardware, network... etc. Basically I just finished making it a handy workstation and started to enjoy it. Right now I am getting excited with the new features and upgraded performance from the latest Mdk 9.1. But I am really not sure - is there a way to upgrade without affecting all my previous configuration? I am not a guru in linux, and I know I am going to be mad if I have to go through the painstaking process again! :p I heard that by default mdk 9.1 installation does not change the original /home directory. But how about things I mentioned above? Shall I choose the option upgrade when installing? I really want to know - how you experts upgrade? ( I am sure you have done much more than me on your mdk 9.0!) Thanks, Shan Not an expert, but I have installed 9.1 over 9.0 twice as an upgrade (one yesterday, and one today) and twice as a fresh install (both today). I usually prefer to do a fresh install, leaving my /home partition intact, but upgrading didn't touch it during any of these installs. My settings were preserved for all applications. FWIW, the first install (work computer, upgrade 9.0 to 9.1) went well. The only issues were losing network settings, and having to run drakconf after the install to get X to start. (Screen resolution) Other than that, it's exactly like it was before, but with newer stuff. My home machine was another story. After one upgrade attempt and two fresh installs, I'm back to 9.0. Your /home should be safe, but I would (and did) back it up just in case. -- Brandon www.vanderberg.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT?, help convince my b/f running as root is bad!
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:16, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 06:49 am, civileme wrote: rm -rf / when the cat launched from the floor to the desktop and planted a paw squarely on the enter key Well---to put it mildly, there was a disturbance on the system as all the files on the machine ALL went away. Civileme As far as I remember Civileme, so did the cat. Didn't you have it for dinner ? ARGH, cats! rm -rf /dev/kitty ;) ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Memoryleakage in 8.2?
I'm using XFCE on a 9.0 box, but have run it on 8.2 and never noticed any mem issues. It's always seemed very light. This machine only has 48MB RAM, so it has to be for me. Have you run 'top' and then sorted by mem usage? That'll tell ya what's sucking up the memory. ~Brandon http://www.vanderberg.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anders Lind Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Memoryleakage in 8.2? Hello friends, I am experiencing some problem with my Mandrake box at work, I am using XFCE. When I rebooted 1,5 hour ago it was about 80 MB free Memory and no swap used. This was after I have started Sylpheed only. Now 1,5 hour later I have started and closed KNode down, and now I have only 4 MB free and over 20 MB of swap in use. Could somebody tell me if there is a memoryleakage known in 8.2? I am on the verge on installing FreeBSD on this machine anyway, but this made the transitiondecision easier Best Regards, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GNOME login quirk
I have tried E but i didnt like it too much. I have browsed for alternatives and i like the look of Fluxbox, its installed just not configured. I guess i am just too darn picky. Rob If you like fluxbox, you might like waimea also. very purty, and very light. I use xfce, cuz i'm a cde dork. ;) -- ~Brandon http://www.vanderberg.net Linux 2.4.19-16mdk - Neutrinos have bad breadth. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] OT - Spam at it's greatest
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 14:50, Anne Wilson wrote: I finally got it - the great Nigerian money-laundering scam email. I haven't seen one of those since I got it by fax years ago, though I knew they were still around. :) Anne Who'd you get? I have 2 from Dr. Uba Jega. I'd be willing to part with one if you've got something different. Mint condition! ;) http://www.quatloos.com/cm-niger/nigerian_scam_letter_museum.htm -- ~Brandon http://www.vanderberg.net Linux 2.4.19-16mdk - Love is being stupid together. -- Paul Valery signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Evolution default browser
On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 21:50, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: K, this has to be the most asked (and answered) question about Evolution. I click on a link in an email and it opens Mozilla. I'd rather it open a new tab in Galeon. I've read about 312 messages I found in Google and have gone in to Gnome Control Center to change my preferred applications to galeon, galeon %s, and a few other browsers just to test. In each case I closed the control center and restarted Evo, just in case. No success with any of these settings. Any ideas? I'm using: Evo 1.0.8 Gnome Control Center 2.0.1.1 Wouldn't you know it? Number 313 had it. Anyway for anyone interested... Edit ~/.gnome/Gnome change default-show=gnome-moz-remote --newwin %s to default-show=galeon -w %s -- ~Brandon http://www.vanderberg.net Linux 2.4.19-16mdk - NOTICE: -- THE ELEVATORS WILL BE OUT OF ORDER TODAY -- (The nearest working elevator is in the building across the street.) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Wheel mouse in applications
On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 23:13, Rob Wideman wrote: So it's safe to assume that you've rerun mousedrake and all that jazz, right? I am using a MS Optical usb/ps2 mouse attached to an Apex Outlook KVM when i installed MDK9. Once i got it installe i used mousedrake and selected the generic ps2 wheel mouse and clicked OK, after that anything that i did with the mouse it would go to the upper right corner and just start shaking. I changed the config file for X11 and nogo. Any thoughts on how to get the wheel working? Rob Same setup, had the same issue. Happens every time I install mdk. Press down on the wheel and then scroll a little. Might take a few times. If that doesn't do it (it should), hit ALT F7 and ALT F1. (or vice versa, can't remember) In any case, it will reinit your mouse and you should be good to go. -- ~Brandon http://www.vanderberg.net Linux 2.4.19-16mdk - The Universe is populated by stable things. -- Richard Dawkins signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Its official.... :-(
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 02:27, Vahur Lokk wrote: On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:14, you wrote: Getting rid of those debts is crucial - make no mistake about it - and cannot therefore be seen as a waste of our money. Sure but if Bens financial info is correct, there is no way to do it in few next years. Saving the company is going to hurt distro meanwhile. It already does. 4 million euros, yikes. That's over 33,000 silver memberships or 57,000 power packs (from their site). I think Ben's got a good point. I'd like to see them isolate the distro from the company in some way. Otherwise, we'll have to have a big giant bake sale. We could make like little penguin and star cookies and stuff. ;) ~Brandon signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Evolution
It is. There are a couple of ways to do it depending on your setup. The cleanest way I've found is to install Mozilla on Windows and have it import everything. Then copy that stuff to a Linux readable part. and import to Evo. There are also some apps written that'll do the same thing. Outport is one I know of. A google search should get you going. ~Brandon On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 12:58, George Baker wrote: I've just installed MDK 8.2 and was really pleased to find Evolution. Is it possible to import Outlook 2000 info into Evolution. George Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 073 3172714 Belief like any other moving body follows the path of least resistance. -Samuel Butler, poet (1612-1680) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ~Brandon http://www.vanderberg.net Linux 2.4.19-16mdk - I'd love to go out with you, but I have to stay home and see if I snore. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Sharing bandwidth
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 15:11, Dennis Myers wrote: I was downloading the update rpms today and my wife complained about how slow her surfing was. We share a cable connection through a scratch built firewall machine running IPcop. Here's the newbie question, what do I need to do to make the system share equally the moderate bandwidth that we have? Am I going to have to get a router? Or, is there a handy dandy way to do it with linux? I've been googling linux and not finding much, probably using the wrong search terms. Any and all advice is appreciated. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 That would be tough to dynamically balance bandwidth between two systems without some type of extra device. What you can do tho, is throttle your bandwidth. Check out larc.org. -- ~Brandon http://www.vanderberg.net Linux 2.4.19-16mdk - I'd love to go out with you, but I have to stay home and see if I snore. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Time Setting in KDE
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 15:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 18:27, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 11:28, Rich wrote: you can change time settings in mcc. -- ~Brandon http://www.vanderberg.net Linux 2.4.19-16mdk - I'd love to go out with you, but I have to stay home and see if I snore. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] why china likes linux
I had the same issue. My policy drops unwanted traffic already, but it notifies me every time it does. This is what I want normally. However, there's SO much coming from Asia, I've added the following rules. This way, drops from addresses issued from APNIC never show up in my log. DROP net:61.0.0.0/8 fw tcp - - DROP net:202.0.0.0/7 fw tcp - - DROP net:210.0.0.0/7 fw tcp - - DROP net:218.0.0.0/7 fw tcp - - DROP net:220.0.0.0/7 fw tcp - - DROP net:169.208.0.0/12 fw tcp - - ~Brandon On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 18:09, Mark Weaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:29 am, Robin Turner scribbled incoherently: Richard Babcock wrote: Interesting article in my local paper. http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html Looks like we got our user base! Sir Robin That would certainly explain all the crack attempts at my system over the last few months. Hell! I don't even bother going to the whois query servers any more I've become so familiar with the IP addy's that are showing up in my log files. I just write the owner of the netblock and tell'em to put those dogs on a shorter leash cause I don't like'em screwin around at the doors trying to find a weakness somewhere. - -- Mark - --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+JMLTJuZ1geTzHgERAqe6AKDug8UBepjJlDfeyJFwBwL0s9r/YwCfQY1o jVf29ynKmxjJRf/7BLFvLuo= =idd6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] [OT] Mandrake Financial Problems
But, obviously, HTML should be avoided. Yes, and I want to download 9.1 with Xmodem. Anybody got mandrake's modem number? Support your local bulletin board, shun the Internet with it's new fangled formats and protocols. We got as far as we need to go in 1986. Who needs java, mp3, or avi. We have a dancing ASCII cursor! I swear, we should just move this list to FIDO. I think I still have a copy of WildCat! BBS lying around here somewhere. Then we can be done with all this new fangled mumbo-jumbo. TradeWars 2002 anyone? ;) ~Brandon signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] [OT] Mandrake Financial Problems
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 07:28, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 07:52, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: But, obviously, HTML should be avoided. Yes, and I want to download 9.1 with Xmodem. Anybody got mandrake's modem number? I generally take this in the light spirit that it was posted in. Glad to hear it. ;) But too I think it needs to be understood that on mailing lists and also quite a few newsgroups HTML is strictly banned. Agreed. And since those are the only important sources of email, we're all safe in here. I think this is just common courtesy, not only for bandwidth reasons, but also because there are quite a few people out there who read their mail without having a feature that strips html out of the text. Absolutely, who would expect an email client to include the same functionality of something like Lynx. That thing's just a big bandwidth-sucking pig. Evolution allows me to read html messages, but the way they are formatted and presented is quite annoying. Straight text is much friendlier. Yeah I use Evolution too. I wish I could find an OS and email client that would let me tailor my experience to suit my needs. Then I could ...oooh. look at that. ;) ~Brandon Registered Omish Linux User 01 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: [newbie] possible to synchronize users with Windows?
Hi Jody, Looks like what you want is MS SFU (Services for Unix 2.0 or 3.0). http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/default.asp http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/techinfo/administration/20/nis.asp You may already have 2.0. I haven't been able to determine if it was included. 3.0 is available for $99 from Microsoft. It includes an NIS server. Once that's running, you can configure your linux boxes to authenticate with the NIS server. In this way, no new accounts need be created on the linux boxes. I've done this with other Unix variants, but you may need to look around to find out how to do this in Linux. There may be an alternative. You could run an NIS server on linux and with some utility, sync the NIS server with the Active Directory. But I've haven't found it yet. And it would probably still require SFU. Personally, I would go with the first option. Hope this helps, Feel free to contact me if you need further information. ~Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 06:49, Jody Cleveland wrote: Hi Brandon, That's not going to do what I think you want. Let's get you a solution. I very much appreciate your time! 1. Are you trying to sync your linux user db with windows user db? yes 2. Approximately how many linux hosts/windows hosts. We have three linux boxes and about 300-400 windows boxes. We are starting to migrate certain things off of Windows onto Linux. We've got about 500 users, so I'd rather not have to manually create that many users and try to get all of their passwords. That, and I'm hoping to avoid headaches when users change passwords every 60 days. 3. Are you using (on windows) local accounts, domain accounts, or active directory accounts. They started out as domain accounts, but have been switched over to active directory accounts. All our servers are win2k, except for one exchange box that is a backup domain controller. Thanks again for your time! -- Jody Cleveland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] OT - Which ethernet cable to use
Cat 5 cables are pretty standard. Any store that sells hubs, should also carry them. There are no adapters to be concerned with. One end of the cable goes into a nick, the other end into the hub. Now with your firewall, one nic is going to be connected to the dls/cable modem, but you'll need a second nic (and cable) to go from the firewall to the hub. If you plan to use only one nic in the firewall, you'll have what's known as a 'one arm firewall'. It would require a second IP on the nic, and is a more complex setup. Hope some of this helps, ~Brandon On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 12:19, Sharrea wrote: Hi all OT I know, but I can't figure out what type of Cat 5 UTP cable (and possibly adapters) I am supposed to use with this 5-port switching hub I picked up at the auction. The hub manual says: quote Fast Ethernet Ports These ports require Category 5 unshielded twisted-pair (UTP) cable. These ports can be used to connect to individual workstations, servers or other Ethernet devices. The attached station must be within 100 meters of the 10/100 Switching Hub, and a straight-through cable must be used when connecting a single-address device or a crossover cable when connecting a multi-address device such as a 100Base-TX repeater. When connecting a workstation or a server, a standard 100BASE-TX adapter must be installed. /quote I have 3 PCs that I want to network with one being used solely as a firewall with ipcop. Each PC has a NIC. I connect to the internet via a dialup modem. My theory so far: 1. Connect external dialup modem to firewall machine which will provide internet access to the other 2 machines. 2. Connect each of the 3 machines to the hub with (?) cat 5 utp cable and (?) adapters. Could someone please enlighten this thick newbie as to which cable and adapters (if any) I should use? Any help greatly appreciated. Cheers Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Windows media player for netscape in mandrake
On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 03:20, Ralph Slooten wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 11:54:34 +0100 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to ivette's mail, d.d. Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:43:02 +0100: Is there an linux equivalent for Windows Media Player? I'm using latest http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/info.html We got QTs and WMV/WMA. New Mplayer v0.90rc2. Loaded it today and it works great. This pages shows all the new formats. Yeehaw! (that's Oi! for the Brits and Crikey! for the Aussies) ;) ~Brandon signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Regarding off-toppic chit-chats: IRC
Some servers require an ident response (see pidentd) for access. But before looking at that, I'd try a different server. If you still have trouble, feel free to contact me via email directly, and I'll do whatever I can to help. ~Brandon On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 12:30, Terry Sheltra wrote: Pardon the total newbieness :-), but I can seem to configure X-chat correctly to connect to irc.freenode.net .. I put in the server name, gave myself a nickname, and when i try to connect, I get the following: --- Connecting to sterling.freenode.net (212.204.214.114) port 6667.. --- Connected. Now logging in.. --- AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname... --- AUTH :*** Found your hostname, welcome back --- AUTH :*** Checking ident --- AUTH :*** No identd (auth) response --- Closing Link: ts (Bad user info) --- Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). Is there something else I need to do that I'm not doing? Thanks! Terry mike wrote: On Wednesday 08 January 2003 10:26 pm, you wrote: Is this besides the #mandrake channel on irc.freenode.net ? Michael Actually there is a channel on Freenode called #mandrake-offtopic that might be most appropriate for off topic chat.I am there now and it could use some provocation. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Registered Linux User #218330 Composed on a 100% Micro$soft-free PC Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DHCP/net-up script
Where's the best place for this. In the net-up script? I can't remember what that is, or if it's executed when the computer gets a new lease. I don't see a dhcpc script, just an exe. I use a dyndns service with an updater running as a daemon, and it works fine. It just periodically checks the IP and if different notifies dyndns. You only get a log entry when something changes. ddclient from http://burry.ca:4141/ddclient/ That client won't work with my dns provider. However, reading that page did cause me to look at dhcpcd.exe. Turns out it is only a script, and even has a place for me to put in my update command. Looks like it's going to work. I guess I'll just have to wait and see. Thanks, ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Which isbetter:KDE or Gnome?]
Some people may have hurt your feelings - well that's sad. But your country is going to _kill_ people - not just hurt their feelings. Is it better to kill than to cope with opposing views and maybe discover that you are wrong? Bones, Nice post. I'm sure there will be sweeping policy changes and a flood of apologies issued from Washington very soon. Until then, can we drop the subject at least on this list? It's getting real old. Pretty please? I'll be your best friend. ;) Feel free to contact me personally and flame my government to your heart's content. I'm also on the #Mandrake-offtopic IRC channel at freenode.net. ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Regarding off-toppic chit-chats: IRC
I connect to IRC servers everyday without having to use an ident server.So I dont know that is the problem.I consider them a security risk and wouldnt use one unless I had to.I am on Freenode now without one.So your rejection might be caused by something else. I've just noticed that some servers require it. As for the security risk, you can always run the fakeident. ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Regarding off-toppic chit-chats: IRC
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 21:19, Jerry wrote: SNIP Starlink looks fine, but it only has one server in Europe. :( BTW, Eggdrop 1.6.13 works like a champ on mdk 9.0, they fixed some old bugs in this new version. I'll check out a couple of the other smaller nets and see if i can get a hold of some of the OPERS, try and find one with a little better coverage. I op some channels on Undernet currently so I'll see what I can find. ;-) I like freenode, the one Mike mentioned. It's pretty small too, but they've already got an established mandrake-ot channel. (lot of other good stuff there too.) http://www.freenode.org/irc_servers.shtml ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DHCP/net-up script
Hi all, I'm using DHCPCD on a 9.0 box (2 actually) with my broadband connection. I'm also using a dynamic dns service. I need to get my boxes to update the dns when the ip changes. Now I've already got a script that does the updating and it works great, and it's in a cron job running hourly. Sometimes the addresses change once a month, sometimes more often. Rather than keep it in the cron job, I'd rather have it execute (and log) only when the address changes. Where's the best place for this. In the net-up script? I can't remember what that is, or if it's executed when the computer gets a new lease. I don't see a dhcpc script, just an exe. Any help is greatly appreciated. (And it'll significantly help remove unneeded entries in my log.) ;) TIA ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Whichi s better:KDE or Gnome?]
On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 19:33, Kesav Tadimeti wrote: On the other hand, I believe Bush is going to war in the hope that it will revive the economy. Preperations for the war will boost the defence industry, and when the war is over lots of contracts (notably petroleum ones) will go out to the US industry. I guess that is his solution to revive the economy. I wonder what made you folks vote Bush. Bush (and I am sure any other president) is doing his job, that is, to repay in kind the donations various companies give to the republicans and the democrats. [Kesav] What gets me is that the whole Iraq thing is over the oil. In fact, the Bush administration has already divided it up amongst the oil companies. [Kesav] (primarily american I'm sure) cheers... That sounds good to me. I've got a gas-lovin Camaro and could use some cheap oil. ;) Seriously, we've got our problems like any other country, and it's a wonderful thing to discus them. But if this war destroys just one terrorist supporter, I'll consider my tax money well spent. And if it destroys saddam, I may even consider voting for Bush. ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [OT]: U.S. politics in Linux? Was: Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] Whichi s better:KDE or Gnome?]
I think this would be a good point to end this thread, there are many who hold strong views about this subject and I fear that to continue to express them here could lead to a falling out of members. It goes without saying that it is a very emotive subject, many of us will have strong views which will differ widely dependant upon such factors as country of residence, political persuasion, religious belief etc. Let's remember that the members of this list are spread around the globe with the common aim of helping other Mandrake users and promoting Mandrake generally, so let's not spoil it by expressing political opinions which are of no relevance to this list and could concievably lead to alienation of valued members. -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Well said. Now, if I can just get my wine/counter-strike stuff working, I can get back to fighting terrorism instead of reading/writing about it here. ;) Have a good one, ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Interesting article reviewing MDK v9.0
Me too, but I tried it again later and it's working now. I'm sorry I read it though. The best part for me was reading the responses to his article. ;) ~Brandon Kernel Version 5.00.2195 DOGBOY has been up for: 8 day(s), 10 hour(s), 59 minute(s), 5 second(s) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Interesting article reviewing MDK v9.0 On Sunday 05 Jan 2003 7:54 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Hate to say, told y'all so, but once again, someone else agrees and has come to the same conclusion...and they're paid for it... http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=189 I'm getting 'cannot resolve ofb.biz' or 'ofb.biz not found' Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] KVM Switch and Mouse
Check out http://www.cinlug.org/forums/web_board/1014471387/index_html. Looks like some ppl are able to get it working with either of two workarounds. Both involved re-initializing the mouse by going to text and back. One was restarting x, which doesn't sound like it would help you, but the other sounded interesting. CTRL ALT F1, then CTRL ALT F7. I don't know if that applies to install mode, but maybe. I do know that from the install screen you can get to the text stuff, perhaps with different key combinations. I'm wondering if beginning installation in text mode might also help. Hope some of this might get you going. p.s. I don't know how to navigate through the install screens on keyboard alone, sorry. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ross Bleakney Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] KVM Switch and Mouse To answer your question, the installer didn't recognize the mouse throught the KVM switch. Do you know how to drive the Mandrake Control Center when the mouse doesn't work? I tried tabbing within the fields but this doesn't seem to work. I can keep switching the plugs, but I was hoping to try something easier. Thanks, Ross From: Brandon Vanderberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] KVM Switch and Mouse Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:38:16 -0800 I've got the same setup and haven't noticed any issues. Did you install linux with the kvm attached? If so, could the os see the mouse during install? If you didn't, you might wanna go into the control center and see if you can try different mouse types/settings. HTH ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ross Bleakney Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KVM Switch and Mouse I recently attached a KVM switch between my Linux box and Windows box. The monitor switches just fine. However, the mouse doesn't work. I looked on the XFree-Newbie archives, and is common for people to have trouble with their mice through a KVM switch. However, people have skittery mice. I have no mouse input at all. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks, Ross P.S. I don't see anyway of searching the Mandrake-Newbie list archives, short of searching the entire Mandrake site (www.mandrakelinux.com). Does anyone know of a way to search the archives? _ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Which is better:KDE or Gnome?
Straight, hot coffee and a command line. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pilagá Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Which is better:KDE or Gnome? El Jue 02 Ene 2003 21:49, Todd Slater escribió: I'm too poor to run those hogs, so I use Fluxbox, too. Star Trek, and Coca-Cola. Todd Here Star Trek and some well tempered and ancient cabernet sauvignon ;-) Pilagá Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade
I haven't had any troublesinstalling Mandrake on a disk with an existingWindows 2000 NTFS partition. It wasvery clean.Obviously, you want to take your time and be very careful. On a side note, Iwould never have tried it even once without my important data backed up. I'dseriously think about finding some way to save that data.You say you have no way of backing up that much data right after you say that you can't afford to lose it. Can you afford 30 bucks and some timefor a burner and a stack of cds?A second HD wouldn't be too much, and you'd have some quick and easy insurance. And a tape backup unit would be even better, but they'repretty pricey. So it's like the mechanic said, "Good, Fast, Cheap -Pick two." On a side note to a side note, I know some people are right now have figured that it would take about80 650MB CDs to do this, and then figuring out that how much time that would take. Butthat answerdoesn't mean anything until it's comparedto the time of recreating that 50GB worth of data from scratch. Anyway, hope it goes well for you. .02 ~Brandon -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark MitchellSent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:00 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Upgrade Problem is I have over 50 gigs of MP3's and movies on the Windows partition that I cant afford to lose and I have no way of backing up that much data- MarkKeith wrote: Do not mess around...BACK UP important files/folders On Thursday 02 January 2003 08:49 pm, Mark Mitchell wrote: I have a machine running windows 2000 server and Mandrake 8.0 I want to upgrade to Mandrake 9. Is there anything I should beware of before upgrading a dual boot machine. If I lose my 2000 install I will be screwed. - Mark
RE: [newbie] KVM Switch and Mouse
I've got the same setup and haven't noticed any issues. Did you install linux with the kvm attached? If so, could the os see the mouse during install? If you didn't, you might wanna go into the control center and see if you can try different mouse types/settings. HTH ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ross Bleakney Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] KVM Switch and Mouse I recently attached a KVM switch between my Linux box and Windows box. The monitor switches just fine. However, the mouse doesn't work. I looked on the XFree-Newbie archives, and is common for people to have trouble with their mice through a KVM switch. However, people have skittery mice. I have no mouse input at all. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks, Ross P.S. I don't see anyway of searching the Mandrake-Newbie list archives, short of searching the entire Mandrake site (www.mandrakelinux.com). Does anyone know of a way to search the archives? _ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
Adding sources and disabling supermount are two different things. To disable supermount, it was something like 'supermount -i disable', then 'mount -a'. The main thing was adding the other sources. Now you have a choice. If you have a slow cd like I do, then you don't want to add the other cds. If you don't have much hard disk space, then you don't want to copy the cd's onto your disk. And if you don't have a fast Internet connection, then you don't wanna add the FTP source. Once you figure out which you'd like to do, follow the relevant procedure below. BTW, in my case, I've got a slow cd and limited hd space but a fast connection. I chose to add the ftp source. To add FTP sources, go to http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php#third it'll have you chose which mirror, version, and architecture you want, then present you with a command to type in. I found it very easy. Then go into software sources manager and remove the installation cd as one of the sources. To copy the CD to the hd, create a dir on a partition that has enough space for all 3 cds - something like /home/mandrake will work. Insert and mount your first cd and copy the contents to this directory. Somewhere in there will be a dir called RPMS. On the 2nd and 3rd cd are directories called RPM2, RPM3, etc. Copy these dirs over so that all the rpm dirs are in the same place. Now from the software sources manager, remove the installation cd as one of the sources, and then add a new source. I'd call it local or something like that and browse to find where the hdlist is in this new dir. Finally, to just add the 2nd and 3rd cds, go into software sources manager and add removable media with each (in turn) inserted and mounted. If you edit the cd source that's already there, you'll see how to do the others. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hendrik Boom Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation
How strange, last night I did the same thing with an old pc. The pc is a very old Pentium 100 or 200 w/ 48meg of ram and a 6 gig disk. I didn't know about the 64meg requirement, but xfree86 (ver 4) and KDE came up and loaded fine with 48. It wasn't a speed demon, but it worked well. This was with the regular 3 CD set and regular (not text) install. It only used the 1st cd for me too, but I disabled supermount, and added the 2 other cds to the source list and it worked well. I didn't see this as anything more than a very minor annoyance. Incidently, the cd-rom drive is an old 4 speed, so since then I've changed the urpmi sources to one of the ftp mirrors. But I've loaded stuff from the 2nd and 3rd cd without issue. ~Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hendrik Boom Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 9.0 never asks for another CD during installation On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:52:48 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 15:04:43 -0800 Spencer Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you will find that the problem is lack of memory. The bare minimum for ML9 is 64megs. In this case the reason is more apt to be lack of fd space. For a PowerPack install to request other than cd1 requires around 2 gigs or more. This is due to the pkgs being ordered on the cds in to include depends and as they need to be installed and the fact the the installation creates a /tmp to which many of the pkgs are copied prior to installation. This being why the fd space required for installation exceeds the space required for the actually used once the installation is complete. Charles I'm finding that even with more than adequate space, if you have a slow, low memory computer ( I have several g ), the installer doesn't want to put much more in than what is necessary. This is really obvious if you need to go to a text install. Spence Well, disk space is not a problem. I have 2 gig available in my Mandrake root partition, and can easily expand that to 10 gig if necessary. The 48 meg is probably the real restriction. And it's stupid, too. The machine has more than enough capacity for what I really want to do, and am doing on SuSE Linux now. Occasionally it slows doen, but not seriously, and I did want to get started with the new kernel, which is rumoured to be smaller and faster, and do a better and more flexible job of packet filtering. And even emacs did not appear during the install. There must be a way around this. Could it be that the installer really needs more than 48 meg to sort dependencies, and is incapable of using swap space? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] blocked ports?
Hi, To enable DCC through a firewall, I did the following: Configure Xchat to use 2 ports (say 1087 and 1088) for dcc. You can use more, but not less. Configure my firewall to allow 2 ports for dcc. ~brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of magnet Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 5:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] blocked ports? Hi all, Im having a few problems here atm after installing gshield. It's working fine but I seem to be unable to send/receive dcc sends using xchat on IRC. Does anyone know the fix for this? Port 6667 is open and xchat works fine connecting to servers/chatting on but no dcc transfers. Also need to know what port licq uses as it won't connect at all. Connection sharing is working fine from linux box [gateway] to the other machines on this LAN and the windows laptop also suffers from the dcc block but connects fine to ICQ. Cheers magnet Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Too much like winblows? What?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 6:17 AM To: NewbieMandrake-List Subject: [newbie] Too much like winblows? What? On Sun, 2002-12-22 at 09:28, walt wrote: I plan on supporting Mandrake in every way that I can. I love this distro. I have tried others, including debian and have always come back to this one. Someone on another forum said they wouldn't use mandrake because it looked too much like windows for him. I personally think that if they want to get people to use linux, looking like windows is the way to go. People tend to use what looks familiar to them. I really hope that the Mandrake team gets it together to continue putting out a quality product. Walt What really confuses me is the fact that you cannot make windows look like anything but windows, yet Mandrake (linux) can be made to look like anything you want (with Enlightenment) or it can look like winblows (KDE) but better. So where in the hell are these people getting off at? My statement here is that people that say Linux looks too much like winblows have not gained an understanding of the capabilities of Linux to be ANYTHING. In Enlightenment, the GUI changes with the theme. If you want a winblows theme, you just download one, and volia! the system is a winblows clone. Or you can go into KDE. Or you can download an Enlightenment theme that's totally alien to anything out there, and when you select that theme under E, your system becomes alien. Simple. One major reason I run E is because after several years I got absolutely sick of seeing nothing but square title bars. With E you have the ability to create title bars of any shape or color or texture you want. That's just one freedom that's supplied by Enlightenment. E's whole overall theme (if there is one) is freedom itself; freedom of the GUI. Since Linux requires you to understand what it's capabilities are before you can use them (duh, that applies to anything) the people that say it looks too much like winblows tend to annoy me. It seems that some people are so limited in their personal scope that they NEED a LACK of choice in order to function or exist. And that's all I'm going to say on this. --LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Hmm, Regarding the confusion you mentioned, and in all fairness, you can make windows look and feel like anything you like. There are a range of options from just changing the way windows looks with something like object desktop, to changing the way it acts with a replacement shell like darkstep or litestep, to changing some of both with something like aston. I've used these with success and enjoy the freedom from the GUI about which you wrote. I like different features of different window managers and shells. I have a CDE-like panel at the bottom of the screen, but I don't like CDE's title bars, so I use different ones. But I could make it look like enlightenment, fvwm, or whatever. I agree that having a windows-like desktop when you first install IS a good idea for people just starting with Linux. As they learn they'll start to customize, and make it their own. Merry Christmas ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] alternatives
Hi all, I've been beating my head against my keyboard for about 4 days straight. The more I work with Mandrake and all the current apps out there, the more impressed I am with all of it. But I can't make the full switch to Mandrake until I can resolve the last two issues; Visio and Counter-Strike. As I see it, my choices are wine(x), vmware, and dual booting. Most of the past 4 days has been spent searching, reading, and trying different things to get Half-Life (Counter-Strike) running with winex. It still doesn't work and I'm not prepared to spend that much time trying to get Visio running, so I've built another partition and put Win2k on it. I'll dual boot for now. But that's not gonna cut it for long. I want Linux as my base OS, and I have to be able to run Visio until there's a nix equivalent that will handle Visio files flawlessly. (Exporting/Importing via HTML or whatnot is neat but not good enough.) I'm considering the purchase of VMware Workstation, but it's a $300 decision. So I thought I check here first. This has to be a common issue. Are there any other options - recommendations? Thanks in advance, -- ~Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] alternatives
Thanks, I'll try that. I blew away Mandrake and reinstalled 2k, so the immediate problem is gone. But now I have my kid's computer spread out all over the garage swapping hardware so I can put linux on it. Then I can Bash C headers and make depend ./hooya/blitz.kablooey-26.3.4 all day long without missing my apps. I guess it's sorta like working on a car, make sure you got a second one that runs before you tear the first apart. Hmmm... now I'm gonna have a whole new batch of hardware issues to sort out. Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] alternatives On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 20:12, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: Hi all, I've been beating my head against my keyboard for about 4 days straight. The more I work with Mandrake and all the current apps out there, the more impressed I am with all of it. But I can't make the full switch to Mandrake until I can resolve the last two issues; Visio and Counter-Strike. As I see it, my choices are wine(x), vmware, and dual booting. Most of the past 4 days has been spent searching, reading, and trying different things to get Half-Life (Counter-Strike) running with winex. It still doesn't work and I'm not prepared to spend that much time trying to get Visio running, so I've built another partition and put Win2k on it. I'll dual boot for now. But that's not gonna cut it for long. I want Linux as my base OS, and I have to be able to run Visio until there's a nix equivalent that will handle Visio files flawlessly. (Exporting/Importing via HTML or whatnot is neat but not good enough.) I'm considering the purchase of VMware Workstation, but it's a $300 decision. So I thought I check here first. This has to be a common issue. Are there any other options - recommendations? Thanks in advance, -- ~Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanted to say something about this before, but constantly forget to do so - so I'll do it now. WINE wants to be an abstraction layer - a clone, per se, so that Windows apps can run - right? SO, if you look in the /usr/share/wine-c/ directory, you see a rather bleak and bland SKELETON of Windows directories and the likes. Well, that didn't sit right with me - and wanting to run MYOB whilst in fave linux, I decided to hack WINE. First, I copied just about everything from my /mnt/hda1/windows directories right into the /usr/share/wine-c/ directory. Fonts, DLL's - you name it - I copied it there. I wanted to give Windows programs everything they asked for. I also dittoed the same with the Program Files subdirs, too. I dug through all the ini files and the WINE registry files to straighten out things that had been changed as well as point some virtual dll's to the real McCoy's...took a while, and took a fair bit of experimenting, but overall, now I can run native Windows applications in my linux world. Now my way was hacked/slashed - but from what I unnerstan...WineX is by far the better way to go...they've spent a good deal of time getting WINE Game Playable - which basically tells me that if you can run a game like UT2002 or HL under linux, running sniveling little MS wanna-be programs like Viso (only joking there) would be a snap. And mate, if I can live completely in a Window-less world (socially even) then so can you! -- Wed Dec 18 22:40:01 EST 2002 10:40pm up 5:32, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.14, 0.20 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn I love dogs, but I hate Chihuahuas. A Chihuahua isn't a dog. It's a rat with a thyroid problem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] alternatives
-Original Message- From: Aaron Mehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I have a dual boot mandrak 9.0 and w2k. Even with all the complexity of linux I much prefer it over w2k. Did you look a win4lin?? This is not a toy like wine is. The problem with vmware is the price and I tried the demo and was not so impressed with performance, although those who know how to tweak it say they can get it to rock. My understanding is that win4lin doesn't work with any Direct X apps. The second PC is only a Pentium 200 w/ 64MB. So I may go with bsd or a very light mdk install in the next go'round. Not sure yet. I am trying to blow away w2k as soon as I can. This is getting me crazy rebooting. and I am wasting disk space as well. my advice is don't jump for mandrake 9.0 so fast. I have used many distributions. Redhat, Suse, debian, and mandrak. I've only used BSD, RH5, RH8, mdk7, 8, 8.1, 8.2, and now 9. Of those, I'm most impressed with 9 as a user desktop. To me, it had the best chance of getting an old window user to make a full switch. The only one that has been problem free has been Redhat. Debian is cool but not for the faint hearted. Suse is way to big. I use Mandrake cause someone hacked it for audio applications. otherwise I would be using Redhat. For networking applications, (nessus, bb, mrtg, fwlogwatch, and the like), I'd also pick 9.0, though I've run other versions in production with no problems major issues. I think that's something I failed to mention in my first post... I'm totally happy with the choice of mdk as a dedicated work box, so long as I can rdp to a MSTS that has Visio on it. (Also gets me Exchange calendar and resource scheduling.) (this is all just my opinion) Since I missed your thread on the Mandrake newbies, what do you use visio for, and what alternivies did you try on linux?? I've used dia, kivio (what's with the $10 stencils???), and another I can't remember. Don't get me wrong, I can draw a decent network diagram in any of these. I just can't pass these documents back and forth to customers, management, and co-workers with ease. lol Aaron ~Brandon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] CDROM troubles
Hi folks, sorry for the FAQ. But, I've read lots of howto's and tons of threads on the subject in various boards, and am more confused than when I started. The trouble is with my IDE CD-ROM burner. I'm not trying to burn at this point, just read data CDs reliably. Right now it's hit and miss. An example: ls /mnt/cdrom - I see the files. cp /mnt/cdrom/*.jpg /home/me/documents/ - Some files make it, some don't ls /mnt/cdrom - I see a list of files, but each says it's an invalid file or directory. I believe I need to switch to ide-scsi from ide-cd, but I'm not sure. Is there a simple way to get this working? The howto's I've read seem to require a mastery of Linux I just don't have. Info: Mandrake 9.0 cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) * 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) 'LITE-ON ' 'LTR-32123S ' 'XS0R' Removable CD-ROM 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * more /etc/fstab /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,user,nodev 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 -- ~Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] looking for easy, cheap, way to share files,cable connection between two boxes
Option 1. You can connect two computers together with a x-over cable. This does require a 2nd NIC in your 8.2 box. The advantage is that you don't have to buy hub or switch. Also, you only really need to worry about having a firewall on the 8.2 box. It will protect the other box. The disadvantage is that if the 8.2 box is down for some reason, you lose Internet connectivity for the other computer. You'll also have to configure Internet Sharing. Not a big deal. Option 2. Buy a hub or switch, connect both computers and your cable modem to it. Have your cable company provide an additional IP for this second box. I know Cox charges something like 6 or 7 bucks for the second IP. Some side notes - With only 3 devices on a hub, you shouldn't see many collisions. The prices for NICs, hub and switches are so close (for decent ones) that it's pretty much a wash as far as price is concerned. HTH, ~Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 19:08, joe wrote: On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 16:42, FemmeFatale wrote: At 03:00 PM 12/15/2002 -0600, you wrote: . Stephen, can you share the internet with a crossover cable? Yes provided the cable goes to a Hub/router/whatevers Uplink Or #1 port. thats what that port is for. OK now I am confused (again), I was thinking from what Stephen wrote that my XP/mdk9.0 box would be connected to my 8.2 box with the crossover cable, and that (8.2) box would have another NIC connected to my cable modem as usual.I thought a hub/router/whatever was unnecessary with this setup. I also thought this would suffice for both file sharing and for sharing the cable connection.Was I wrong? Also what is the #1 port? Joe. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Using ISO's without burner?
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 22:44, Miark wrote: Depending on where your iso images are, yes. Install 9.0 with just disc 1. Once you're set up, mount the iso images of 2 and 3, and install packages from them. The iso images should be on a partition that won't be nuked by the installation, of course. Miark Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Hello, I was wonder if there was a way to use ISO's without a burner, my burner just recently broke, right after i got CD1 for mandrake and installed it. Now i have downloaded the other CD's ( 1 and 2 ) but i have nothing to burn it with, is there a way I can use these ISO's without the burner? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com what do you mean by mount? sorry im new. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Only CD sound works in linux
I cannot play MP3's no system sound or programs sounds work, just CD's what can i do to fix this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ISO with no burner
How do you extract the ISO? my burner is borken as a mentioned earlier. Im new so i need every detail on how to get these ISO unpacked and working, Thanks alot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] nevermind i got my sound working
On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 17:28, Marcia wrote: Brandon wrote: it works! im a happy man Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Dear Brandon, I think I missed your thread. How did you get it to work? I have been asking for help for my sound problems and got some suggestions but none of them have worked. When I do sndconfig it says that my soundcard is not supported. It is supported or at least it was in LM8.2 and I finally did get it to work there with some doing. My sound chip is the Via chipset 8233C. I know it is supposed to work and did work with the OSS/4Front commercial driver in LM8.2 and finally I got it to work with ALSA is 8.2. So far, it is not working with all suggestions provided in LM8.2. I do appreciate all suggestions and thankyou all for them. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, at first i did not have sndconfig installed and in an earlier post somone told me how to do that, then i did sndconfig and picked my drive, at first it didnt not work and i didnt have sounds but i just messed with the settings in the dirver and it worked Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sound
I have a SoundBlaster 16 and I have just installed Mandrake 9, i have no sound. What can i do to fix this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] XMMS
Yes ! I got my sound working! thanks you guys for helping, but i just have one problem, i cant play mp3s with XMMS, what can be causing this? When i try to play the files, nothing happens. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XMMS
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 20:58, Jason Guidry wrote: On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 16:28, Brandon wrote: Yes ! I got my sound working! thanks you guys for helping, but i just have one problem, i cant play mp3s with XMMS, what can be causing this? When i try to play the files, nothing happens. Teach a man to fish... When you are having problems with an application: 1)launch app from command line$ xmms file.mp3 2)enter error message into a google groups search 3)discover answer this is how I found the answer. you need to remove xmms-alsa and all should be just fine. -- jason gmaestro.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com And what is ALSA, i always hear about it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XMMS
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 20:58, Jason Guidry wrote: On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 16:28, Brandon wrote: Yes ! I got my sound working! thanks you guys for helping, but i just have one problem, i cant play mp3s with XMMS, what can be causing this? When i try to play the files, nothing happens. Teach a man to fish... When you are having problems with an application: 1)launch app from command line$ xmms file.mp3 2)enter error message into a google groups search 3)discover answer this is how I found the answer. you need to remove xmms-alsa and all should be just fine. -- jason gmaestro.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com There is no error message, i did it in the console xmms came up with the file loaded, but just did not play. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
