Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-28 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:46:19 -0600
On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:27 pm, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 +
 
 On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote:
   Thank you both. I went to the web site
 
 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main
 /
 
   , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8
 
 kernel's
 
   and I get this message-
  
   Some package requested cannot be installed:
   kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
   bootloader-utils[= 1.9])
   do you agree ?
  
  
   I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed 
fine.
   So
 
 I
 
   do not know what to do?
  
  
From,
  
 Mike Chalmers
 
 This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other 
packages.
 This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in 
the
 two
 releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not
 recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will 
very
 likely demand other packages ad infinitum.
 
 So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to 
either
 compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1
 
 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. 
Your
 2.6.3
 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu.
 You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI.
 
 derek
 
 
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 Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what
 version? If not what does it use?


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It uses xorgx11 I think it is called. It is basically xfree86 but a branch
that uses the original GNU license. XFree86 changed their license and made 
it
a bit of a problem as far as free and open source folks are concerned.
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On the ATI website they have drivers for X.org. The problem is they are for 
the Xorg 6.8 and Mandrake 10.1 uses Xorg 6.7. Has Mandrake updated to Xorg 
6.8 yet? If not are they planning to?


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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 27 Jan 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 Derek,

 I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on
 the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box
 appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application
 (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on?

Yes - Software Installer is a gui front-end for urpmi

 Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it
 there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer?
 Thnks.

Urpmq and urpmf are part of urpmi.  Don't worry about that.  To understand 
better what's happening, go to 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi which describes the 
command-line possibilities and what they do.  You can easily add and remove 
software with the gui (which is in Mandrake Control Center) but the command 
line gives you a lot more possibilities.  HTH

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP

 I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on
 the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box
 appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application
 (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on?

Yes

 Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it
 there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer?
 Thnks.

 Mike Chalmers

In Linux all system commands are only available to the system administrator 
(root user). We call this 'security'. A word that will be unfamiliar to 
anyone coming from a Windows environment ;-)

When you use the graphical software installer it will prompt you for the root 
password so it can invoke urpmi on your behalf.
When using urpmi on the command line you must become root user first with the 
command 'su' (SuperUser).

derek

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:20:13 +
On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP

 I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on
 the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box
 appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application
 (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on?

Yes
 Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for 
it
 there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer?
 Thnks.

 Mike Chalmers

In Linux all system commands are only available to the system administrator
(root user). We call this 'security'. A word that will be unfamiliar to
anyone coming from a Windows environment ;-)
When you use the graphical software installer it will prompt you for the 
root
password so it can invoke urpmi on your behalf.
When using urpmi on the command line you must become root user first with 
the
command 'su' (SuperUser).

derek
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Thank you both. I went to the web site
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ 
, that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's 
and I get this message-

Some package requested cannot be installed:
kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 
1.9])
do you agree ?

I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I 
do not know what to do?


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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote:

 Thank you both. I went to the web site
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/
 , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's
 and I get this message-

 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[=
 1.9])
 do you agree ?


 I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I
 do not know what to do?


  From,

   Mike Chalmers

This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages.
This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two 
releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not 
recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very 
likely demand other packages ad infinitum.

So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either 
compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1

BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 
kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu.
You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI.

derek


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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 +
On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 Thank you both. I went to the web site
 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/
 , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 
kernel's
 and I get this message-

 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[=
 1.9])
 do you agree ?


 I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So 
I
 do not know what to do?


  From,

   Mike Chalmers

This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages.
This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the 
two
releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not
recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very
likely demand other packages ad infinitum.

So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either
compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1
BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 
2.6.3
kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu.
You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI.

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Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what 
version? If not what does it use?


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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Dennis Myers
On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:27 pm, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 +
 
 On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote:
   Thank you both. I went to the web site
 
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main
 /
 
   , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8
 
 kernel's
 
   and I get this message-
  
   Some package requested cannot be installed:
   kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
   bootloader-utils[= 1.9])
   do you agree ?
  
  
   I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine.
   So
 
 I
 
   do not know what to do?
  
  
From,
  
 Mike Chalmers
 
 This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages.
 This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the
 two
 releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not
 recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very
 likely demand other packages ad infinitum.
 
 So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either
 compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1
 
 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your
 2.6.3
 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu.
 You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI.
 
 derek
 
 
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 http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org
 
 
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 Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what
 version? If not what does it use?


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It uses xorgx11 I think it is called. It is basically xfree86 but a branch 
that uses the original GNU license. XFree86 changed their license and made it 
a bit of a problem as far as free and open source folks are concerned.
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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-26 Thread Mike Chalmers
(I cleaned up the post to make it easier to read. From, Mike)

To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :-
For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel.
For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1
So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers.
(BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see
them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel')
I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system
will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences
between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system.
In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel 
from
Cooker.  If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone.

Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own
kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves
differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard
kernel)
To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using
konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install.
For example, go here for Cooker :-
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main
and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :-
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main
The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still 
be
accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not 
work
simply remove it again.

What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source.
Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0.
If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install 
software
your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror
and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case
you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your
computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get
stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused.

It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by
changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not 
the
sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages
that get stuck in circular dependency.

I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not
have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI
drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not
OpenSource.
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Derek,
Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be 
a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work 
with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel 
that is made to be compatible with Mandrake.

There are two ways I want to try:
1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi 
it. Right?  I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think 
it would not be to challenging to do.

2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 
kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how 
to use urpmi though.

So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8 
kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need a 
reply on that.


   Thanks,

Mike Chalmers

***The post  about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of 
this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on 
this.

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-26 Thread Derek Jennings
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 03:48, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP
 
 To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror
  using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install.
 For example, go here for Cooker :-
 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main
 
 and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :-
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main
 
 The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still
 be
 accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not
 work
 simply remove it again.
SNIP
 Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be
 a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work
 with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel
 that is made to be compatible with Mandrake.

 There are two ways I want to try:

 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to
 urpmi it. Right?  I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem.
 I think it would not be to challenging to do.

 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the
 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not
 know how to use urpmi though.

 So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8
 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need
 a reply on that.


   Thanks,

Mike Chalmers

 ***The post  about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of
 this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on
 this.

I had already given instructions on how to install the Mandrake 2.6.8 kernel.
Just click on the link above using konqueror, find the kernel you want to 
install and click on it. That will invoke 'gurpmi'  which is a little 
graphical application which will use urpmi to download and install it for 
you. (I am not sure, but this kernel may say it needs to install another 
package called 'udev', in which case upgrading to 10.1 may be a better 
alternative)

If you wanted to upgrade to 10.1 the easiest way is to simply obtain the 10.1 
install CDs and choose the 'upgrade' option when you boot from the CD. 
Everything is then taken care of for you.


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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-26 Thread Paul
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 15:32, Derek Jennings wrote:

 
 I had already given instructions on how to install the Mandrake 2.6.8 kernel.
 Just click on the link above using konqueror, find the kernel you want to 
 install and click on it. That will invoke 'gurpmi'  which is a little 
 graphical application which will use urpmi to download and install it for 
 you. (I am not sure, but this kernel may say it needs to install another 
 package called 'udev', in which case upgrading to 10.1 may be a better 
 alternative)
 
 If you wanted to upgrade to 10.1 the easiest way is to simply obtain the 10.1 
 install CDs and choose the 'upgrade' option when you boot from the CD. 
 Everything is then taken care of for you.
 

Not always.

I had problems as lilo failed to point to the right kernels on two
updates, even though 2.4 and 2.6 kernels were present in lilo.conf I got
kernel panics from both.. 

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-26 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:32:28 +
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 03:48, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP
 
 To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror
  using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install.
 For example, go here for Cooker :-

ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main
 
 and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :-
 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main
 
 The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can 
still
 be
 accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does 
not
 work
 simply remove it again.
SNIP
 Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could 
be
 a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to 
work
 with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 
kernel
 that is made to be compatible with Mandrake.

 There are two ways I want to try:

 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to
 urpmi it. Right?  I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a 
problem.
 I think it would not be to challenging to do.

 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the
 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not
 know how to use urpmi though.

 So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 
2.6.8
 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not 
need
 a reply on that.


   Thanks,

Mike Chalmers

 ***The post  about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of
 this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on
 this.

I had already given instructions on how to install the Mandrake 2.6.8 
kernel.
Just click on the link above using konqueror, find the kernel you want to
install and click on it. That will invoke 'gurpmi'  which is a little
graphical application which will use urpmi to download and install it for
you. (I am not sure, but this kernel may say it needs to install another
package called 'udev', in which case upgrading to 10.1 may be a better
alternative)

If you wanted to upgrade to 10.1 the easiest way is to simply obtain the 
10.1
install CDs and choose the 'upgrade' option when you boot from the CD.
Everything is then taken care of for you.

derek
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Derek,
I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the 
file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It 
gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software 
Installer). Is that what I should click on?

Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it 
there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? 
Thnks.


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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-25 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:14:42 +
On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP
 There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual
 
http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compil
 ing-kernel-chapter.html
 
 But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org
 kernel
 and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may
  not work quite the same.
 
 Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun?
 
 BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and
 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk
 is on the development 'cooker' mirrors.
 Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as 
they
 can
 have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies.
 
 derek
 Derek,
 I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs 
go
 very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not 
far
 behind it may fix the problem.

 If I can't use the  2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker 
then
 will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks.

   From,

Mike Chalmers

To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :-
For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel.
For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1
So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers.
(BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only 
see
them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel')

I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system
will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences
between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system.
In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel 
from
Cooker.  If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone.

Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own
kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves
differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the 
standard
kernel)

To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using
konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install.
For example, go here for Cooker :-
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main
and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :-
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main
The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still 
be
accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not 
work
simply remove it again.

What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source.
Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0.
If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install 
software
your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror
and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best 
case
you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your
computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get
stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused.

It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by
changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not 
the
sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages
that get stuck in circular dependency.

I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not
have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI
drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are 
not
OpenSource.

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Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be 
a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work 
with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel 
that is made to be compatible with Mandrake.

There are two ways I want to try:
1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi 
it. Right?  I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think 
it would not be to challenging to do.

2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 
kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how 
to use urpmi though.

So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update

Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-24 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP
 There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual
 http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compil
 ing-kernel-chapter.html
 
 But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org
 kernel
 and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may
  not work quite the same.
 
 Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun?
 
 BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and
 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk
 is on the development 'cooker' mirrors.
 Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they
 can
 have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies.
 
 derek
 Derek,
 I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go
 very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far
 behind it may fix the problem.

 If I can't use the  2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then
 will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks.

   From,

Mike Chalmers

To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :-

For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel.
For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1

So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers.
(BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see 
them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel')

I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system 
will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences 
between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. 

In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from 
Cooker.  If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone.

Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own 
kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves 
differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard 
kernel)

To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using 
konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install.
For example, go here for Cooker :-
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main

and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :-
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main

The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be 
accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work 
simply remove it again.

What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source.
Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0.

If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software 
your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror 
and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case 
you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your 
computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get 
stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. 

It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by 
changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the 
sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages 
that get stuck in circular dependency.

I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not 
have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI 
drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not 
OpenSource.

derek

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-24 Thread yankl
On Monday 24 January 2005 05:14, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 SNIP

  There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual
  http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/comp
  il ing-kernel-chapter.html
  
  But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org
  kernel
  and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may
   not work quite the same.
  
  Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun?
  
  BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and
  2.6.10.1-1-1mdk
  is on the development 'cooker' mirrors.
  Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as
   they can
  have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies.
  
  derek
 
  Derek,
  I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs
  go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not
  far behind it may fix the problem.
 
  If I can't use the  2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker
  then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks.
 
From,
 
 Mike Chalmers

 To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :-

 For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel.
 For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1

 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers.
 (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only
 see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel')

 I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system
 will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences
 between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system.

 In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel
 from Cooker.  If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone.

 Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own
 kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves
 differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the
 standard kernel)

 To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using
 konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install.
 For example, go here for Cooker :-
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/med
ia/main

 and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :-
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main

 The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still
 be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not
 work simply remove it again.

 What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source.
 Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0.

 If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install
 software your system will by definition find the newest version on the
 Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies.
 In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of
 dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the
 worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally
 confused.

 It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by
 changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not
 the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few
 packages that get stuck in circular dependency.

 I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not
 have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI
 drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are
 not OpenSource.

 derek

IMHO kernel upgrade will not fix your problem. However, their possibility to 
upgrade to next kernel version with no pain at all. 

DANGER YOU CAN KILL YOUR SYSTEM BY FOLLOWING MY INSTRACTIONS.
READ AND PRINT INSTRACTION BEFORE ACTUALLY USING IT.
IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ASK UBEFORE/U USING. 

1.Download from 
ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS;
file named kernel-2.6.8.1.20mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm.
2.Then go to command line by pressing alt+ctrl+f1.
3. Login as root
4. type: cd /place_you_saved_the_file_to.
5. type: urpmi kernel-2.6.8.1.20mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm
6. type: cd /etc/
7. type: vi lilo.conf (you may need to read man for lilo.conf)
8. check if everithing is ok in the lilo.conf file (it should be)
9. quit vi by pressing esc and then type :q
10 type: lilo
11. reboot by pressing ctrl+alt+del or typing reboot.



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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-23 Thread yankl
On Sunday 23 January 2005 18:39, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 I currently have kernel 2.6.3-7mdk installed. I want to update to 2.6.10. I
 downloaded the file patch-2.6.10.bz2 from kernel.org. I also installed
 patch-2.5.9-2mdk.i586.rpm. I don't know how to install the 2.6.10 patch.
 Will someone tell me the command to use to update the kernel to 2.6.10.

 From,
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Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to 
install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it.
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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-23 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:57:48 -0500
On Sunday 23 January 2005 18:39, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 I currently have kernel 2.6.3-7mdk installed. I want to update to 
2.6.10. I
 downloaded the file patch-2.6.10.bz2 from kernel.org. I also installed
 patch-2.5.9-2mdk.i586.rpm. I don't know how to install the 2.6.10 patch.
 Will someone tell me the command to use to update the kernel to 2.6.10.

 From,
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Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to
install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it.
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When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the 
patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the 
urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else 
will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great?

  From,

Mike Chalmers

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-23 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP
 
 Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to
 install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it.
 --
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 URL: http://yankele.com
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 To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows
 box, you just need to work on it.


 When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the
 patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the
 urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else
 will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great?

From,

  Mike Chalmers

There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual
http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html

But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel 
and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not 
work quite the same.

Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun?

BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk 
is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. 
Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can 
have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies.

derek
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http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org


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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-23 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:19:03 +
On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP
 
 Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi 
to
 install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it.
 --
 Yankl
 Tiny IT guy.
 100 % Micro$oft free.
 Registered linux users 181086
 URL: http://yankele.com
 ---
 To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows
 box, you just need to work on it.


 When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the
 patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about 
the
 urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else
 will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great?

From,

  Mike Chalmers

There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual
http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html
But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org 
kernel
and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not
work quite the same.

Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun?
BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 
2.6.10.1-1-1mdk
is on the development 'cooker' mirrors.
Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they 
can
have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies.

derek
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So you are saying that there is not a Mandrake 2.6.10 kernel yet? I have an 
ATI 9800 video card and it is very very slow with the fglrx driver 
installed. I thought patching the kernel might could fix this slow problem.

  From,

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-23 Thread Bill Mudry


At 08:19 PM 1/23/2005, you wrote:
On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04,
Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP
 
 Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using
urpmi to
 install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and
urpmi it.
 --
 Yankl
 Tiny IT guy.
 100 % Micro$oft free.
 Registered linux users 181086
 URL:
http://yankele.com
 ---
 To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your
Windows
 box, you just need to work on it.

 When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install
the
 patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much
about the
 urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone
else
 will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be
great?


From,


Mike Chalmers
There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual

http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html

But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org
kernel 
and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may
not 
work quite the same.
Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for
fun?
BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and
2.6.10.1-1-1mdk 
is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. 
Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as
they can 
have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of
dependencies.
Updating my kernel on 10.0 is just where I am and I need advice. I cannot
come up
with any kernels using urpmq or urpmf even at 2.6.8 and up. This is after
updating
urpmi successfully to the point this week that I was able to install a
huge slew of
progams successfully with urpmi with practically no dependency problems.

This also included over 800 meg of updates :-). Am I doing something
wrong?
Please help me know how I can take the easiest and fastest way to upgrade
the
kernel to the present stable one. I will be pleased to be totally up to
date for once
but I look to when this is successfully done so I can go on to other
things I wish to
do.
Just a thought. Is there a way to update urpmi only for the
kernel??
With thanks. I will try to follow the rest of this thread also.
Bill Mudry
Mississauga, Ontario

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-23 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:19:03 +
On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP
 
 Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi 
to
 install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it.
 --
 Yankl
 Tiny IT guy.
 100 % Micro$oft free.
 Registered linux users 181086
 URL: http://yankele.com
 ---
 To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows
 box, you just need to work on it.


 When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the
 patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about 
the
 urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else
 will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great?

From,

  Mike Chalmers

There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual
http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html
But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org 
kernel
and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not
work quite the same.

Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun?
BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 
2.6.10.1-1-1mdk
is on the development 'cooker' mirrors.
Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they 
can
have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies.

derek
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http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org

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Derek,
I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go 
very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far 
behind it may fix the problem.

If I can't use the  2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then 
will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks.

 From,

  Mike Chalmers

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config 
resolv.configfiles
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:30:31 +


  Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-)
  I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I 
  just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to 
  the boonies.
 
  I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once 
  again localhost.
  I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection 
  to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs 
  at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying 
  to determine IP configuration. :-(
  The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my 
  connection is working great.
  What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic???
 
  I am dazed and confused. [8/
 
  Regards.
 
 
  --Angus
Margot replied: 
 I had the same problem - don't know what causes it, but the 
 solution for me was to set the connection *not* to start at boot - 
 once booted, open a terminal as root and do ifup eth0 (without 
 the quotes) and everything works from then on.
 
 -- Regards
 Margot
 *-*-*-*
*
Thanks Margot. :-))
I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted.
Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/
What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had 
my internet connection open on ppp0!

This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. 
It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for 
learning.

Take care.


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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-09 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Saturday 08 Jan 2005 23:09, Derek Jennings wrote:

 hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file.

Mine says

order hosts,bind
multi on

This is the default as set up by Mdk 10.0 - I haven't touched it.

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote:
 Thanks Margot. :-))
 I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted.
 Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/
 What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had
 my internet connection open on ppp0!

 This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine.
 It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for
 learning.

Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order?

Anne
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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-09 Thread Brett Lyon
Check out this excellent tutie on the subject:

http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/network-linux.htm

It put the see in my TCP/IP.

Brett

--- Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could
 instruct/inform me on how 
 I can properly config these files??
 What should they contain and how should they look on
 my 10.1 system?
 
 I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed
 things up a bit. ;-)
 My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is
 now (none), 
 as in #gus@(none) gus.
 I have been searching documentation and Google, but
 I'm still dumb 
 on this (and lots of other stuff too).
 
 Help would be truly appreciated.
 
 Best regards.
 
 --Angus
 
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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Sanket Medhi
Anne Wilson wrote:
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On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote:
 

Thanks Margot. :-))
I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted.
Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/
What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had
my internet connection open on ppp0!
This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine.
It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for
learning.
   

Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order?
Anne
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Even I have the same prob...I have configured the eth0 conn *not* to 
start at boot but it *does* start when the x system is loaded! Is this 
normal or is there any solution to this???
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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Trevor
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:18 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote:
  Thanks Margot. :-))
  I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted.
  Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/
  What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had
  my internet connection open on ppp0!
 
  This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine.
  It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for
  learning.

 Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order?

I seem to have the same problem.  I can either boot into linux twice and the  
network comes up or I can use the ifup wlan0 command to get it working.  
Where do I change the order in which things load?

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-09 Thread et
On Sunday 09 January 2005 04:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 08 Jan 2005 23:09, Derek Jennings wrote:
  hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file.

 Mine says

 order hosts,bind
 multi on

 This is the default as set up by Mdk 10.0 - I haven't touched it.

 Anne

you might not be able to see the file, depending on some things like file 
permission and msec level, try the command in a text console as root 
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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config  
resolv.configfiles
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:18:27 +

 
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 On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote:
  Thanks Margot. :-))
  I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted.
  Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/
  What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had
  my internet connection open on ppp0!
 
  This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine.
  It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for
  learning.
 
 Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order?
 
 Anne

Anne, I think you are on to something there. The *order* of these 
devices coming up seems to be what was giving me the trouble.
Since ppp0 is just a *software* device that uses eth0 to do it's 
thing, eth0 has to come up first, before ppp0.
That seems to make sense to me. [8-}

I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the 
adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am not 
able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new account. :-/

I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0 and ppp0 
resides?

I can hardly wait to try to get my wireless working when my router arrives. ;-)

Best regards to you Anne.you're a gem. 

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Angus Auld wrote:
---[ SNIP ]
I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the 
adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am not 
able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new account. :-/

I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0 and ppp0 
resides?

I can hardly wait to try to get my wireless working when my router arrives. ;-)
Best regards to you Anne.you're a gem. 

--Angus
If you are going to hook the router to the ADSL modem, then you are 
going to have to redo things when you install it. The router will handle 
the PPPoE connection, and your Linux box will be a normal DHCP ethernet 
connection to the router. You have to let the router handle the PPPoE if 
you want to share the connection with other computers, unless you want 
to let the Linux box be your firewall. While this can be done one 
ethernet connection, I am not sure if your router would handle that.

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles

2005-01-09 Thread Eric Huff
Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order?
  
  Anne

 Anne, I think you are on to something there. The *order* of these 
 devices coming up seems to be what was giving me the trouble.
 Since ppp0 is just a *software* device that uses eth0 to do it's 
 thing, eth0 has to come up first, before ppp0.
 That seems to make sense to me. [8-}
 
 I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the 
 adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am
 not able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new
 account. :-/
 
 I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0
 and ppp0 resides?
 
It's in the subdir here that corresponds to
your init level:

/etc/rc.d

In my case:
/etc/rc.d/rc3.d

Since i boot into init level (runlevel) 3

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-08 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote:
 Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how
 I can properly config these files??
 What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system?

 I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-)
 My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none),
 as in #gus@(none) gus.
 I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb
 on this (and lots of other stuff too).

 Help would be truly appreciated.

 Best regards.

 --Angus

Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network
Add a line in the format
HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain

(you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified 
Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my 
network)

The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames.
The only line that is essential in this table is
127.0.0.1   localhost

If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a 
list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You 
can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example
192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain  server  downstairs-computer

/etc/resolv.conf  defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses 
from hostnames. It should look somethng like
search localdomain
nameserver 192.168.1.251

This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not 
present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your 
ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy  (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS 
proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden 
by the DNS server.

hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-08 Thread mikkel

 On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote:
 Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on
 how
 I can properly config these files??
 What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system?

 I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-)
 My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none),
 as in #gus@(none) gus.
 I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb
 on this (and lots of other stuff too).

 Help would be truly appreciated.

 Best regards.

 --Angus

 Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network
 Add a line in the format
 HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain

 (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully
 Qualified
 Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my
 network)

 The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to
 hostnames.
 The only line that is essential in this table is
 127.0.0.1 localhost

You will also want to put your hostname in here. Something like:

127.0.0.1  yourhostname localhost

The reasion for this is that some programs will try to look up your
hostname, and you get a delay while it tries to find it.

 If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide
 a
 list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames.
 You
 can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example
 192.168.1.1   your_host_name.localdomain  server  downstairs-computer

 /etc/resolv.conf  defines how your computer will try to resolve IP
 addresses
 from hostnames. It should look somethng like
 search localdomain
 nameserver 192.168.1.251

If you are using dhcp with your ADSL, then you do not need to touch
/etc/resolv.conf, unless you are running a local name server. The dhcp
client will set this to the valuse supplied by the ADSL modem or router.
If you are running your own name server, and using dhcp, you have to add
PEERDNS=no to the /etc/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 file to stop this. (If
your ADSL connection is not eth0, then edit the correct file for your
interface.)

For hosts.conf, I usualy use order hosts, bind. (From memory, but I
think I have it right...)

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-08 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config  resolv.config 
files
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:52 +

 
 On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote:
  Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how
  I can properly config these files??
  What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system?
 
  I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-)
  My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none),
  as in #gus@(none) gus.
  I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb
  on this (and lots of other stuff too).
 
  Help would be truly appreciated.
 
  Best regards.
 
  --Angus
 
 Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network
 Add a line in the format
 HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain
 
 (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified
 Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my
 network)
 
 The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames.
 The only line that is essential in this table is
 127.0.0.1 localhost
 
 If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a
 list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You
 can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example
 192.168.1.1   your_host_name.localdomain  server  downstairs-computer
 
 /etc/resolv.conf  defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses
 from hostnames. It should look somethng like
 search localdomain
 nameserver 192.168.1.251
 
 This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not
 present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your
 ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy  (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS
 proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden
 by the DNS server.
 
 hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file.
 
 HTH
 
 derek
 *
Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-)
I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started 
using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies.

I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again 
localhost.
I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection 
to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs 
at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine 
IP configuration. :-(
The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection 
is working great.
What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic???

I am dazed and confused. [8/

Regards.


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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-08 Thread Chris
On Saturday 08 January 2005 06:29 pm, Angus Auld wrote:

 Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-)
 I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started
 using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies.

 I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again
 localhost.
 I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection
 to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs
 at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to
 determine IP configuration. :-(
 The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection
 is working great.
 What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic???

 I am dazed and confused. [8/


I seem to remember a problem I had like that when I first got DSL.  If I 
remember I had to remove the ppp0 setup otherwise DHCP wouldn't load.

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-08 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config  resolv.config 
files
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:42:45 -0600

 
 On Saturday 08 January 2005 06:29 pm, Angus Auld wrote:
 
  Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-)
  I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started
  using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies.
 
  I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again
  localhost.
  I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection
  to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs
  at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to
  determine IP configuration. :-(
  The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection
  is working great.
  What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic???
 
  I am dazed and confused. [8/
 
 
 I seem to remember a problem I had like that when I first got DSL.  If I
 remember I had to remove the ppp0 setup otherwise DHCP wouldn't load.
 
 --
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Thanks forthe reply Chris. I don't understand though.if I remove my 
pppoe setup, how will I be able to use my adsl?

I am in a *purple haze*.

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-08 Thread mikkel

 On Saturday 08 January 2005 06:29 pm, Angus Auld wrote:

 Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff.
 :-)
 I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just
 started
 using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies.

 I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again
 localhost.
 I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection
 to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs
 at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to
 determine IP configuration. :-(
 The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection
 is working great.
 What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic???

 I am dazed and confused. [8/


 I seem to remember a problem I had like that when I first got DSL.  If I
 remember I had to remove the ppp0 setup otherwise DHCP wouldn't load.

I remember seeing something about this in a FAQ, and I think MCC is set up
to handle it. When you are using PPPoE, you don't use DHCP for the
ethernet connection. It doesn't realy get an IP at all. Instead, the PPPoE
handles all that. It uses the NIC, but not using TCP/IP format, so the
interface doesn't get an IP address. I will see if I can find it later,
unless someone here can fill you first. (I hope - I am fighting another
problem...)

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Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files

2005-01-08 Thread Margot
Angus Auld wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config  resolv.config 
files
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:52 +

On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote:
Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how
I can properly config these files??
What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system?
I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-)
My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none),
as in #gus@(none) gus.
I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb
on this (and lots of other stuff too).
Help would be truly appreciated.
Best regards.
--Angus
Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network
Add a line in the format
HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain
(you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified
Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my
network)
The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames.
The only line that is essential in this table is
127.0.0.1   localhost
If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a
list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You
can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example
192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain  server  downstairs-computer
/etc/resolv.conf  defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses
from hostnames. It should look somethng like
search localdomain
nameserver 192.168.1.251
This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not
present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your
ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy  (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS
proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden
by the DNS server.
hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file.
HTH
derek
*
Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-)
I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started 
using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies.

I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again 
localhost.
I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection 
to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs 
at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine 
IP configuration. :-(
The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection 
is working great.
What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic???

I am dazed and confused. [8/
Regards.
--Angus
I had the same problem - don't know what causes it, but the solution 
for me was to set the connection *not* to start at boot - once 
booted, open a terminal as root and do ifup eth0 (without the 
quotes) and everything works from then on.

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Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1

2004-12-06 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
I sent this last night, but sympa never sent me a confirmation, so here it is 
again...

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
Date: December 5, 2004 23:00
From: Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On December 4, 2004 14:05, Angus Auld wrote:
 Greetings,
 I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it
 installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I
 can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the
 default ext3.

 Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers
 fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in
 reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default.

 Help please?

 --Angus

I just did a re-install recently (had to resize some partitions). You have to
choose Custom partitioning (or something like that, not sure I have the
exact wording). From there you create each partition, set the size and choose
the type.

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Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1

2004-12-05 Thread Johan
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 23:26:48 -0300
Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message -
 From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:10:36 +
 
  
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
  
  On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote:
   Greetings,
   I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it
   installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how 
   I
   can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the
   default ext3.
  
   Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers
   fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in
   reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default.
  
   Help please?
  
  Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page?  I think that as well 
  as
  allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of
  filesystem.  I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong.
  
  Anne
 
 Thanks Anne, I reinstalled, and just allowed the defaults to prevail.
 I have installed and used Mandrake through several versions now, but I still 
 find the *expert* install option quite cryptic. :-/
 Just confirms my *newbie* status.
 
 I seem to be having a problem with kded sucking up a lot of cpu 
 cycles...upwards of 75% or so. I have disabled kded, but I wonder if I need 
 it for anything.
 It may be a bug perhaps, and I haven't done any updating yet.
 Anybody note any similar issues with kded?
 
 Best regards.
 
 
 --Angus
 
**

Yes.  Update and it wil be gone.

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Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1

2004-12-04 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote:
 Greetings,
 I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it
 installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I
 can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the
 default ext3.

 Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers
 fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in
 reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default.

 Help please?

Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page?  I think that as well as 
allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of 
filesystem.  I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1

2004-12-04 Thread Angus Auld

- Original Message -
From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:10:36 +

 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote:
  Greetings,
  I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it
  installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I
  can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the
  default ext3.
 
  Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers
  fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in
  reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default.
 
  Help please?
 
 Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page?  I think that as well as
 allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of
 filesystem.  I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong.
 
 Anne

Thanks Anne, I reinstalled, and just allowed the defaults to prevail.
I have installed and used Mandrake through several versions now, but I still 
find the *expert* install option quite cryptic. :-/
Just confirms my *newbie* status.

I seem to be having a problem with kded sucking up a lot of cpu 
cycles...upwards of 75% or so. I have disabled kded, but I wonder if I need it 
for anything.
It may be a bug perhaps, and I haven't done any updating yet.
Anybody note any similar issues with kded?

Best regards.


--Angus

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in awareness. -- James Thurber

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Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1

2004-12-04 Thread care free

From: Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 23:26:48 -0300
- Original Message -
From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:10:36 +

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote:
  Greetings,
  I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it
  installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out 
how I
  can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than 
the
  default ext3.
 
  Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with 
reisers
  fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type 
in
  reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default.
 
  Help please?
 
 Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page?  I think that as 
well as
 allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice 
of
 filesystem.  I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong.

 Anne

Thanks Anne, I reinstalled, and just allowed the defaults to prevail.
I have installed and used Mandrake through several versions now, but I 
still find the *expert* install option quite cryptic. :-/
Just confirms my *newbie* status.

I seem to be having a problem with kded sucking up a lot of cpu 
cycles...upwards of 75% or so. I have disabled kded, but I wonder if I need 
it for anything.
It may be a bug perhaps, and I haven't done any updating yet.
Anybody note any similar issues with kded?

Best regards.
--Angus
I just installed 10.1 Community Ed with reiserfs without toggling to expert 
mode.  I don't remember exactly what I did.  But toggling to expert mode 
definitely gives you more options.  It seems to be straightforward to me.

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Re: [newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc

2004-11-24 Thread Vegard Lundby Rekaa
Are changes made by this method permenent after writing the command in the
prompt as you said, or do they anly aply for this boot?

Regards Vegard

 On Tuesday 23 November 2004 07:03 pm, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote:
 In www.mandrakeexpert.com I got this hint to fix a problem I am
 experiencing.

  Try to pass this params while starting your pc
 
  : linux noapic nolapic

 I am new tp this, and was hoping someone could describe to my in detail
 what I am supposed to do and when?

 Best regards , Vegard

 IIRC, If you use Lilo, then when the boot selection screen start, press
 [esc],
 then a prompt will show. then you type those command.

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Re: [newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc

2004-11-24 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Wednesday 24 Nov 2004 20:54, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote:
 Are changes made by this method permenent after writing the command in the
 prompt as you said, or do they anly aply for this boot?

If you pass them at bootup like that they only apply to the one boot.  That's 
useful for finding which one works for you.  Once you know which one it is 
we'll help you put it into your lilo.conf, after which it will apply every 
time.

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc

2004-11-23 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 07:03 pm, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote:
 In www.mandrakeexpert.com I got this hint to fix a problem I am
 experiencing.

  Try to pass this params while starting your pc
 
  : linux noapic nolapic

 I am new tp this, and was hoping someone could describe to my in detail
 what I am supposed to do and when?

 Best regards , Vegard

IIRC, If you use Lilo, then when the boot selection screen start, press [esc], 
then a prompt will show. then you type those command.

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Re: [newbie] Need help with Samba Server

2004-05-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 21 May 2004 11:16, van Dyk, Wikus wrote:
 Hallo everyone ,

 I just got Mandrake 10 and want to test it as a good alternative to
 Windows. However , I got the download version and don't have any
 Manuals or documentation for it. I want to ask 2 things :

 - I am struggling to configure my SAMBA server. I use the wizard and
 when
 I enter the read and write user and press next it doesn't want to
 continue
 And keeps highlighting the user names. Does anybody know what I am doing
 wrong?

 - And can anybody tell me where on the net can I find good complete
 Mandrake 10 documentation or manuals ?

 Thank you

 Wikus Van Dyk
Welcome

Manuals are available online at
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3
You will also find manuals for heaps of applications at /usr/share/doc on your 
computer.
You will also fine the 'man' command incredibly useful. Open a terminal and 
type 'man command_name'  and you get detailed instructions on the usage of 
that command.


As for Samba the Wizard has a bug in it. If you tick the box for 'Enable 
public file sharing area' then the wizard will not progress past the name 
selection.  (There is a bug report open for it)
If you do not select the public area tick box, it will work OK.

You might like to install the ksambaplugin package using your Software Install 
GUI, the KDE Control Centre (MenuSystemConfigurationConfiguredesktop) will 
contain a new page in NetworkSambaConfiguration  This allows finer control 
than the Mandrake Wizard.

You should also at least read the text configuration file /etc/samba/smb.conf  
In Linux all configuration is by text files, there is no registry (Hooray!) 
when you use a Wizard or a GUI it will edit this text file. The Samba default 
text configuration file is full of explanations and sample configurations 
which will be very useful to you.
After making any change to samba configuration restart samba with
service smb restart
in a root terminal, or use the GUI in Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices 
to restart Samba.

When using Samba you should bear in mind that if you have enabled the 
firewall, then Samba traffic is blocked by default, both to the interface to 
the Internet, and the interface to your local network.
 You will either have to open ports 137,138,139 to the local network, or 
disable the firewall. And of course no way should you allow Windows 
networking to get out onto the Internet. (Unless you want people looking at 
your files)


HTH

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Re: [newbie] Need help with Samba Server

2004-05-21 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 21 May 2004 12:10, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Friday 21 May 2004 11:16, van Dyk, Wikus wrote:
  Hallo everyone ,
 
  I just got Mandrake 10 and want to test it as a good alternative to
  Windows. However , I got the download version and don't have any
  Manuals or documentation for it. I want to ask 2 things :
 
  - I am struggling to configure my SAMBA server. I use the wizard and
  when
  I enter the read and write user and press next it doesn't want to
  continue
  And keeps highlighting the user names. Does anybody know what I am doing
  wrong?
 
  - And can anybody tell me where on the net can I find good complete
  Mandrake 10 documentation or manuals ?
 
  Thank you
 
  Wikus Van Dyk
snip

 You might like to install the ksambaplugin package using your Software
 Install GUI, the KDE Control Centre
 (MenuSystemConfigurationConfiguredesktop) will contain a new page in
 NetworkSambaConfiguration  This allows finer control than the Mandrake
 Wizard.
snip

The package I mentioned in my last post 'ksambaplugin' is not on your CDs. It 
can be found in an online software repository called 'contrib'
Mandrake has the ability to install software from a variety of sources such as 
CDs and online sources. It uses a system called 'urpmi' to work out where 
applications should be installed from, and which packages depend on other 
packages.  (Read the section on urpmi on the Twiki - follow my signature)

To set up your computer to use 'contrib' as a software source go here,
http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php
Follow the instructions and take the command it gives you and copy it into a 
root terminal.  (Copy/paste in Linux is highlight/press mouse wheel)

(While you are there add a source for 'plf' and 'updates' too, then you can 
use your Software GUI to install updated packages and plf packages which are 
packages which are not legal in certain countries with bizarre laws.)

There is another GUI to set up Samba called SWAT which is on your CDs, but I 
do not like recommending it because it deletes all the useful text in the 
smb.conf configuration file.

derek

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Re: [newbie] Need help getting my printer to work in Mandrake 9.2

2004-05-09 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 07 May 2004 10:40, John Henderson wrote:
 Can anyone assist me in getting my printer (HP OfficeJet 4100) working?

 Mandrake Control Center sees the printer and autoconfigures, and even
 does a test print, but I can't print from any applications.

 Any ideas what I can check or tweak to get this working.

 PLEASE HELP, not being able to print means I have to use Windoze,
 something I'm not keen on doing, but I've got to get the job done.

 Kind regards, and thanks in advance.

 John H.

Have you done all the software updates from the update mirrors for 9.2?

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Re: [newbie] Need help getting my printer to work in Mandrake 9.2

2004-05-08 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 07 May 2004 04:40 am, John Henderson wrote:
 Can anyone assist me in getting my printer (HP OfficeJet 4100) working?

 Mandrake Control Center sees the printer and autoconfigures, and even
 does a test print, but I can't print from any applications.

 Any ideas what I can check or tweak to get this working.

 PLEASE HELP, not being able to print means I have to use Windoze,
 something I'm not keen on doing, but I've got to get the job done.

 Kind regards, and thanks in advance.

 John H.
Need more info, are you on a network? do you have firewall running, maybe you 
need to open port 631.  You do not say which iteration of ML you have, is it 
10.0 or 9.2? Lastly you might try doing an upgrade with disk one in and at 
the end check the printer config or reconfig it and then reboot to see if it 
now works, just some thoughts. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Need help installing SATA drive!!!(Please help)

2004-03-06 Thread Paul
On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 02:46, DC A wrote:
 Yes I tried 10 but it's taking a long time to load. I donno why thorugh. (I 
 tried to auto allocate 20GB for linux and it's taking more than an hour and 
 still it's formatting) So I donno whether I'll be able to linux on this 
 system. Is there any other linux that support single SATA or any other 
 alternative?
 
 Thanks for reply.
 --AR
 

I'm using Mandrake 9.2 on a SATA drive, but I've never tried booting
from it. I also have a small drive that I have as a boot drive, and from
windows.

I've just downloaded Mandrake 10 and was impressed with the speed it did
download - after I'd changed the upload rate. 2 GB in about 22 hours.

Finally, you'll probably get more responses if you don't upset everyone
- people here tend to get upset if you ignore the long-standing
convention by top-posting.

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Re: [newbie] Need help installing SATA drive!!!(Please help)

2004-03-05 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 05 March 2004 11:44 am, DC A wrote:
 Hi! It's me again. I've got a problem and I'm really desperate. I've MSI
 K6T mobo with athlon 64 3400+ processor. I've installed Maxtor's Diamond
 plus 9 hard drive on WinXP. When I checked in Computer properties it says
 WinXp Promise SATA 378 IDE controller. And the hard drive works fine on
 WinXp. I even created three NTFS partition with no linux partition. Now
 when I try to install Mandrake 9.2 it recognizes my controller as Promise
 technology PDC20376 Fast TRak 378 controller and then it asks me whether i
 wanna use another device as it won't install on it. So when I choose
 another device by choosing the same controller it gives an error. I donno
 what to do. Does anyone know what did I do wrong or what am I supposed to
 do?

Obviously, 9.2 doesn't support that controller.  Have you tried 10.0 yet?
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Re: [newbie] need help installing driver for wireless card, Dlink DWL 520 chipset: rtl8180

2004-03-04 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 04 March 2004 10:28, jimmy wrote:
 ./wlanup: line 72: /sbin/iwpriv: No such file or
 directory

You need to install iwpriv!;)
BTW you don't need to add the option infra as it's already specified in the 
wlanup script. You might want to change that to ad-hoc if there's no access 
point available but you want to connect to another box that is also 
configured ad-hoc.

Look for the package with the software installer using iwpriv as a search in 
files and descriptions. I'm not to sure any more in which package it was 
included but I suspect wireless-tools.

Frankly I tried the same procedure for a RTL8180ver2 card but it wouldn't work 
properly on my system . Even building my module from source and using that 
instead of the RH one didn't working nicely, so YMMV.

Using the linuxant driver-wrapper was a much better/easier option.
There's more on the twiki (the first place to look;))down below - look for 
Hardware, network devices

Good luck,
HarM

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Re: [newbie] Need help upgrading from Mandrake 9.0

2004-02-16 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 16 Feb 2004 10:19 am, Sweeney, Stephen wrote:
 Hi All,

 I recently got broadband installed and I wanted to update my Mandrake 9.0
 installation to the very latest of... well... pretty much everything -
 Including KDE, Open Office, etc.

 My problem is that I don't fully understand the use of urpmi yet. I did the
 following,

 Set up some mirrors and hdlist locations
 Logged out of KDE (I understand that you can't / shouldn't update KDE
 within KDE)
 Did ctrl-alt-f1 from the login prompt for a terminal
 su to root
 Ran init 1
 Did urpmi --auto-select and left it to it (after confirming to get the
 packages)

 Problem is it didn't actually DO anything to my sytem. I think what I told
 it to do was download all the packages and nothing else.

 I therefore have two requests,

 1) Can someone please provide me with mirrors I may need to update properly
 from 9.0 to 9.2.

 2) Give me correct urpmi command.

 Thanks very much,

 Stevie :)



There is a guide for using urpmi to do an upgrade in the Twiki at
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UrpmiUpgrade

You do not say what urpmi sources you set up, but you need a minimum of 'main' 
and 'updates'  sources, but you might as well add 'contrib' and 'plf' at the 
same time while you are at it. And of course you must delete **all** your 9.0 
sources.

Instead of urpmi --auto-select
do urpmi urpmi  first.  The urpmi package is different between 9.0 and 9.2 so 
do that one first.  It will install about 70 other packages at the same time.
Then for the remaining packages use
urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm

You need the --no-verify-rpm because the way RPM signatures is checked changes 
between 9.0 and 9.2 and you will not have the signatures on your keyring yet. 
When install is complete if you refresh the urpmi sources, then the 
signatures will get imported automatically.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] need help with greek!

2003-06-10 Thread manolis
Am I the only one that has this problem?
don't know what to do


  08  2003 00:15, / manolis :
 Hi guys!

 After my installation of mandrake 9.1 I have one little problem.
 I use the greek keyboard but I cannot enter punctuation  notation marks on
 vowels.
 for example I can write   but if Itry to put a tone in the 
 with the : key and then the i key, I get no character.
 The problem exists in all the programs. I did not had the same problem with
 mandrake 9.0 . Any ideas?

 please help.


 Manolis
 (A very newbie in the world of linux)


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Re: [newbie] need help with greek!

2003-06-10 Thread Paul
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 11:27, manolis wrote:

 Am I the only one that has this problem?
 don't know what to do

Do you mean you cannot type things like  and  ?
If so, run mcc, go to the keyboard settings and change it to US
International. And pronto the keyboard accepts your : over the vowels...

Paul

  for example I can write   but if Itry to put a tone in the 
  with the : key and then the i key, I get no character.
  The problem exists in all the programs. I did not had the same problem with
  mandrake 9.0 . Any ideas?
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Re: [newbie] need help with greek!

2003-06-10 Thread Troy Davidson
Manolis,

Seems that the majority of people here don't use Greek.  Is there a Linux
group in your area that you can direct this towards?  You might get better
help with an answer there.

Here is a list of LUGs in Greece:

http://www.linuxhq.com/users/groups/greece.html

Sorry we can't help you better.

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Quoting manolis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Am I the only one that has this problem?
 don't know what to do
 
 
 Στις Κυρ 08 Ιουν 2003 00:15, ο/η manolis έγραψε:
  Hi guys!
 
  After my installation of mandrake 9.1 I have one little problem.
  I use the greek keyboard but I cannot enter punctuation  notation
 marks on
  vowels.
  for example I can write Γεια σου but if Itry to put a tone in
 the ι
  with the : key and then the i key, I get no character.
  The problem exists in all the programs. I did not had the same problem
 with
  mandrake 9.0 . Any ideas?
 
  please help.
 
 
  Manolis
  (A very newbie in the world of linux)
 
 
 

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Re: [newbie] need help with greek!

2003-06-10 Thread arocho
Mandrake 9.1 does support UNICODE.  I have my installation set for UTF-8, CODE2000 and 
SILGREEK fonts, and xwg, a keyboard handler.  The keyboard program was prepared by a 
professor of classical greek at the Moscow univ.  Xwg will map the keyboard from US to 
polytonic greek and back.  It allows for entry of polytonic characters: accents, 
circumflex, etc.  Of course you must have the appropriate font.  The new version of 
OpenOffice (wordprocessor and spreadsheet) will work with well with UNICODE; two 
months ago it did not.  Postgresql will also accept the characters.

On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 08:14:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Manolis,
 
 Seems that the majority of people here don't use Greek.  Is there a Linux
 group in your area that you can direct this towards?  You might get better
 help with an answer there.
 
 Here is a list of LUGs in Greece:
 
 http://www.linuxhq.com/users/groups/greece.html
 
 Sorry we can't help you better.
 
 Troy Davidson 
 Linux User #311107
 
 ++ 
 Follow the adventures of a 
 real life computer and 
   gaming nerd! 
 
www.clandaith.com 
 ++ 
 
 ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer **
 
 
 Quoting manolis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Am I the only one that has this problem?
  don't know what to do
  
  
  Στις Κυρ 08 Ιουν 2003 00:15, ο/η manolis έγραψε:
   Hi guys!
  
   After my installation of mandrake 9.1 I have one little problem.
   I use the greek keyboard but I cannot enter punctuation  notation
  marks on
   vowels.
   for example I can write Γεια σου but if Itry to put a tone in
  the ι
   with the : key and then the i key, I get no character.
   The problem exists in all the programs. I did not had the same problem
  with
   mandrake 9.0 . Any ideas?
  
   please help.
  
  
   Manolis
   (A very newbie in the world of linux)
  
  
  
 
 
 



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Re: [newbie] Need Help

2003-06-09 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:30:23 +
Benjamin Jeeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 
 Had my Laptop work until I made a time that it was time to reinstall
 Mandrake 8.0 now I can not install any version of Mandrake, RedHat
 this is what I get?
 
 The Laptop is Compaq Armada 3500, PII 266, 128MB RAM.
 
 RAMDISK: Compressed format (err=1)6Freeing initrd memory: 286k freed
 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03
 
 I think it is the cd/dvd player that is the problem have a UBS bruner
 but can not get it to boot from that drive. 

you could try booting from a floppy instead, Mandrake has floppy images
for download, but I have doubts you'll be able to find one for 8.0. It
actually sounds more like either a hard-drive or memory error, however.
If it was the CD drive, it would *usually* be more of an all or
nothing type of problem, ie. it wouldn't boot at all. Try the boot
floppy and install 9.1 if you can, but I wouldn't recommend KDE or Gnome
on that dinosaur! If push comes to shove, the last resort is to do a
network install, which I did with my webserver, and there is a special
boot floppy for that too! worked like a charm, it did! :) Check out the
Mandrake site under Installation Instructions I believe.

 The Problem is that I am doing a design show for my dissertation which
 was develop on Linux Mandrake. The show is next Wed at my Uni was
 hoping for so help from you people might be able to help on this
 problem.

Ouch!
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Re: [newbie] Need Help

2003-06-09 Thread Benjamin Jeeves
Get it working by using my usb cdwriter and 9.1 hdcdrom_usb.img looks likey 
things are looking up and learn abit about the booting and kernel of linux

On Monday 09 Jun 2003 1:09 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:30:23 +

 Benjamin Jeeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  Had my Laptop work until I made a time that it was time to reinstall
  Mandrake 8.0 now I can not install any version of Mandrake, RedHat
  this is what I get?
 
  The Laptop is Compaq Armada 3500, PII 266, 128MB RAM.
 
  RAMDISK: Compressed format (err=1)6Freeing initrd memory: 286k freed
  Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03
 
  I think it is the cd/dvd player that is the problem have a UBS bruner
  but can not get it to boot from that drive.

 you could try booting from a floppy instead, Mandrake has floppy images
 for download, but I have doubts you'll be able to find one for 8.0. It
 actually sounds more like either a hard-drive or memory error, however.
 If it was the CD drive, it would *usually* be more of an all or
 nothing type of problem, ie. it wouldn't boot at all. Try the boot
 floppy and install 9.1 if you can, but I wouldn't recommend KDE or Gnome
 on that dinosaur! If push comes to shove, the last resort is to do a
 network install, which I did with my webserver, and there is a special
 boot floppy for that too! worked like a charm, it did! :) Check out the
 Mandrake site under Installation Instructions I believe.

  The Problem is that I am doing a design show for my dissertation which
  was develop on Linux Mandrake. The show is next Wed at my Uni was
  hoping for so help from you people might be able to help on this
  problem.

 Ouch!


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RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup

2003-06-06 Thread Dennis . R . Myers
Title: RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Russ Rollins
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] Need help with router setup



I have setup the Mandrake Internet Sharing connection and am
successfully able to utilize the second NIC in my box to share the
internet with my laptop. However, when I plug the cable into my
Wireless Router, and then attempt to get online with my laptop
(wirelessly) I am unable to do so--I, however can successfully see my
Mandrake box (@192.168.1.1) and peruse my webpages there. What can I
do to fix this? I've spent hours trying to get this far (finally
realizing I needed to open the ports in the firewall to allow DHCP).


Much thanks in advance,
-Russ-


When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then bypassing the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need to change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP address cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you are trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH Dennis M.






RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup

2003-06-06 Thread Russ Rollins
What I meant was the cable coming from eth1, where eth0 has the direct 
connection from the cable modem. In other words, when I plug from eth1 to 
the wireless router, that's when the scenario (I described below) occurs: 
I can hit the linux box, but can't get beyond. If I plug from eth1 
directly to laptop (thereby rendering the wireless router useless), I get 
beyond just the linux box and can surf the web. 

TIA,
-Russ-

 When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then
 bypassing
 the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need
 to
 change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP
 address
 cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you
 are
 trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH
 Dennis
 M.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:38:47 -0700
Subject: RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup

 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russ Rollins
 Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Need help with router setup
 
 
 I have setup the Mandrake Internet Sharing connection and am
 successfully able to utilize the second NIC in my box to share the
 internet with my laptop. However, when I plug the cable into my
 Wireless Router, and then attempt to get online with my laptop
 (wirelessly) I am unable to do so--I, however can successfully see my
 Mandrake box (@192.168.1.1) and peruse my webpages there. What can I
 do to fix this? I've spent hours trying to get this far (finally
 realizing I needed to open the ports in the firewall to allow DHCP).
 
 Much thanks in advance,
 -Russ-
 
 When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then
 bypassing
 the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need
 to
 change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP
 address
 cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you
 are
 trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH
 Dennis
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Re: [newbie] Need help with router setup

2003-06-06 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 06 June 2003 03:52 pm, Russ Rollins wrote:
 What I meant was the cable coming from eth1, where eth0 has the direct
 connection from the cable modem. In other words, when I plug from eth1 to
 the wireless router, that's when the scenario (I described below) occurs:
 I can hit the linux box, but can't get beyond. If I plug from eth1
 directly to laptop (thereby rendering the wireless router useless), I get
 beyond just the linux box and can surf the web.

 TIA,
 -Russ-

  When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then
  bypassing
  the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need
  to
  change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP
  address
  cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you
  are
  trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH
  Dennis
  M.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:38:47 -0700
 Subject: RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russ Rollins
  Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:58 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [newbie] Need help with router setup
 
 
  I have setup the Mandrake Internet Sharing connection and am
  successfully able to utilize the second NIC in my box to share the
  internet with my laptop. However, when I plug the cable into my
  Wireless Router, and then attempt to get online with my laptop
  (wirelessly) I am unable to do so--I, however can successfully see my
  Mandrake box (@192.168.1.1) and peruse my webpages there. What can I
  do to fix this? I've spent hours trying to get this far (finally
  realizing I needed to open the ports in the firewall to allow DHCP).
 
  Much thanks in advance,
  -Russ-
 
  When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then
  bypassing
  the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need
  to
  change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP
  address
  cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you
  are
  trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH
  Dennis
  M.

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RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup

2003-06-06 Thread Russ Rollins
Mandrake box has two nics, eth0 and eth1. Eth0 is receiving feed from
cable modem. Eth1 is what I plug into receiving device (laptop or wireless
router). If feed from eth1  goes straight into the laptop, the laptop can
connect to the internet and everything works great. If the wireless router
gets the feed from eth1, and then the laptop connects to the wireless
router, I can only get the Mandrake box--nothing else.

-Russ-

On Friday 06 June 2003 06:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Friday 06 June 2003 03:52 pm, Russ Rollins wrote:
  What I meant was the cable coming from eth1, where eth0 has the direct
  connection from the cable modem. In other words, when I plug from eth1 to
  the wireless router, that's when the scenario (I described below) occurs:
  I can hit the linux box, but can't get beyond. If I plug from eth1
  directly to laptop (thereby rendering the wireless router useless), I get
  beyond just the linux box and can surf the web.
 
  TIA,
  -Russ-
 
   When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then
   bypassing
   the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need
   to
   change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP
   address
   cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you
   are
   trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH
   Dennis
   M.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:38:47 -0700
  Subject: RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russ Rollins
   Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:58 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [newbie] Need help with router setup
  
  
   I have setup the Mandrake Internet Sharing connection and am
   successfully able to utilize the second NIC in my box to share the
   internet with my laptop. However, when I plug the cable into my
   Wireless Router, and then attempt to get online with my laptop
   (wirelessly) I am unable to do so--I, however can successfully see my
   Mandrake box (@192.168.1.1) and peruse my webpages there. What can I
   do to fix this? I've spent hours trying to get this far (finally
   realizing I needed to open the ports in the firewall to allow DHCP).
  
   Much thanks in advance,
   -Russ-
  
   When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then
   bypassing
   the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need
   to
   change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP
   address
   cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you
   are
   trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH
   Dennis
   M.
 
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Re: [newbie] Need help with router setup

2003-06-06 Thread Dennis Myers
On Friday 06 June 2003 09:03 pm, Russ Rollins wrote:
 Mandrake box has two nics, eth0 and eth1. Eth0 is receiving feed from
 cable modem. Eth1 is what I plug into receiving device (laptop or wireless
 router). If feed from eth1  goes straight into the laptop, the laptop can
 connect to the internet and everything works great. If the wireless router
 gets the feed from eth1, and then the laptop connects to the wireless
 router, I can only get the Mandrake box--nothing else.

 -Russ-
Ok, I get the picture now. So, when you plug the router into eth1 it is not 
set up to see you PC as the gateway, It must have the PC IP address as its' 
gateway address, i.e. 192.168.1.xxx and then it will have the ISPs' DNS IP 
addressess ie. 68.96.13.xx. That way it looks to the PC as the gateway since 
that is the route to the cable modem and the laptop would then have to have 
the routers IP as its' gateway address. It would be better I think to have 
the cable modem connect to the wireless router and then both of your comps 
looking at the router as their gateway. So both would show the gateway as 
192.168.1.1 and the DNS addresses in both would be what your ISP provided. 
Sorry if this is clear as mud. I don't use wireless but it is the same as RJ5 
connections just without the wires. Do you have the wireless nics in both 
comps?

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Re: [newbie] Need help installing gnucash

2003-01-26 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 22:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I need some help. I am new to Mandrake but not new to Linux.  Anyway, I found a 
website that talked about adding package sources and I have added several 
(http://vsbabu.org/mt/archives/2002/12/03/mandrake_9_getting_more_software.html).  
 
 Using the information provided, I have tryied to get gnucash to install by running 
urpmi gnucash ( I also tried to install it through the gui).  The process keeps 
balking saying that libgal.so.19 is needed by gnucash and libgtkhtml20. Urpmi states 
that libgal19 is already installed.  I looked in /usr/lib and confirmed that indeed 
libgal.so.19 exists and is a sym link to libgal.so.19.0.3.  
 
 Would someone please advise on how to get gnucash to install.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris
Do you have the /usr/lib and usr/local.lib path in /etc/ld.so.conf?

If you don't, add those directories in two different lines and run
ldconfig

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Re: Re: [newbie] Need help installing gnucash

2003-01-26 Thread cwhmlist

 
 From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2003/01/26 Sun PM 09:45:57 EST
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Need help installing gnucash
 
 On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 22:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello all,
  
  I need some help. I am new to Mandrake but not new to Linux.  Anyway, I found a 
website that talked about adding package sources and I have added several 
(http://vsbabu.org/mt/archives/2002/12/03/mandrake_9_getting_more_software.html).  
  
  Using the information provided, I have tryied to get gnucash to install by running 
urpmi gnucash ( I also tried to install it through the gui).  The process keeps 
balking saying that libgal.so.19 is needed by gnucash and libgtkhtml20. Urpmi states 
that libgal19 is already installed.  I looked in /usr/lib and confirmed that indeed 
libgal.so.19 exists and is a sym link to libgal.so.19.0.3.  
  
  Would someone please advise on how to get gnucash to install.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Chris
 Do you have the /usr/lib and usr/local.lib path in /etc/ld.so.conf?
 
 If you don't, add those directories in two different lines and run
 ldconfig
 
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I already had /usr/lib in the /etc/ld.so.conf file.  However, I went ahead and also 
added /usr/local/lib to the file and reran ldconfig.  This did not fix the problem.

Any other ideas/advice?

Thanks,

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Re: Re: [newbie] Need help installing gnucash

2003-01-26 Thread civileme
On Sunday 26 January 2003 06:02 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2003/01/26 Sun PM 09:45:57 EST
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] Need help installing gnucash
 
  On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 22:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello all,
  
   I need some help. I am new to Mandrake but not new to Linux.  Anyway, I
   found a website that talked about adding package sources and I have
   added several
   (http://vsbabu.org/mt/archives/2002/12/03/mandrake_9_getting_more_softw
  are.html).
  
   Using the information provided, I have tryied to get gnucash to install
   by running urpmi gnucash ( I also tried to install it through the gui).
The process keeps balking saying that libgal.so.19 is needed by
   gnucash and libgtkhtml20. Urpmi states that libgal19 is already
   installed.  I looked in /usr/lib and confirmed that indeed libgal.so.19
   exists and is a sym link to libgal.so.19.0.3.
  
   Would someone please advise on how to get gnucash to install.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Chris
 
  Do you have the /usr/lib and usr/local.lib path in /etc/ld.so.conf?
 
  If you don't, add those directories in two different lines and run
  ldconfig
 
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 and also added /usr/local/lib to the file and reran ldconfig.  This did not
 fix the problem.

 Any other ideas/advice?

 Thanks,

 Chris
Well you should try the following

Delete the rpm database then in a terminal as root

# rpm --rebuilddb

Check your filesystem.  I have seen this problem before where ldconf -v will 
see the file and the installer or compiler will not.  It has happened in 
every case I have seen with a corrupted Reiserfs.  And no matter how robust 
the filesystem is, there are circumstances which will prove disastrous to 
one, such as a power failure during writing which might result in a runaway 
drive processor.

There may be an unresolved glitch in dependencies though usually the QA 
procedures nail them.  In that case drop in the CD#1, boot and then select 
Expert Upgrade and select no groups then go on to individual package 
selection and toggle the list to alphabetical flat list, then scroll down to 
gnucash and check it.

It may be that the deps list on the CD is corrupted or was unreadable in 
part--that will discover the flaw.

I have used several 9.0 downloadable sets and I know gnucash is there and 
dependencies are satisfied, because I load it in the packages list diskette I 
always carry.  Therefore we have one of the following problems:

1.  depslist on CD not completely readable (low probability even considering 
frequent media-vs-drive problems, cause the more likely outcome of this 
problem is failure to install)

2.  Filesystem corruption--particularly observable in version 8.0 using 
Reiserfs where ldconfig -v would see a file and a compiler or make or rpm 
would not.

3.  rpm database corruption, resolved by rpm --rebuilddb IF you have it 
loaded.  Difficult if not  (like fresh install time after moving any data you 
want to keep to /home)

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Re: [newbie] Need help for Sound in Mandrake 9.0 using VT8233 (AC97sound chip)

2002-12-18 Thread John Richard Smith
Ralph De Witt wrote:


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Hi:
I am using a MSI KT3 ULTRA2 mobo. That has a VT 8233 AC97 sound chip using
the snd-via8233 sound driver. My problem is that sound in my games is
choppy, almost a stutter. This is true for the Mandrake games that
installed from the DVD as well as for Prboom that I download from
Mandrake Club and Loki's Heavy Gear II. I have a recommended install with
all of the KDE Mulitimedia stuff installed. I was hopeing that someone
could help me sort this out. There are no errors when a game is run from
commandline, and I am out of options to try. Thanks for your Help.
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We share the same sound chip and same make of mobo, mine is setup
with alsa with aRts enabled, I too have a slight problem with sound, but
only
with cetain mp3 players, it too is rather garbled , wobbly , and I didn't
have this problem whatsoever with M8.2, but I have it this time with M9.0

Everything else seems fine. The commandline mp3 is worst, kde mp3 player
next worst. None of the wav file players or music cd players seem to
have any
problems at all.

John
   

John:
It is the same here. I just wish it could be fixed. I went into MCC and had a 
look in the hardware module, sound configuration in my set up this is all 
blank. Perhaps the problem lies there. My problem is that I have no knowledge 
of what should be there to make it work.
- -- 
	
 

Yes, your right , but I suspect it has a lot to do with transition from 
the old linux
sound drivers to alsa, some apps are working on one, other apps on the other
The task of switching from one to the other is impossible to accomplish 
with the
resources, human and mechanical, in one OS release. As far as I can 
remember there
is a file in your home directory that has a direct control of the sound 
system, trouble
is I cannot remember which one. If you figure it our let me know, 
because I had
to tweek it to get xcdroasts wav file player to work, and I should of kept a
note of what I did , but unusually for me, I didn't.

Xmms plays my mp3's perfectly, even if the others don't play so well, so
this tends to suggest it's sound driver / application configuration 
related to me,
as against mp3 or wav or music cd / driver configuration related, if you
see what I mean. Hard to explain that. Basically I don't think there is 
so much we
mere mortals can do, we are in the hands of those exalted gods who 
controll all
this, but putting the problems before them at least helps them identify the
nature of the task.

John


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Re: [newbie] Need help for Sound in Mandrake 9.0 using VT8233 (AC97sound chip)

2002-12-17 Thread John Richard Smith
Ralph De Witt wrote:


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Hi:
I am using a MSI KT3 ULTRA2 mobo. That has a VT 8233 AC97 sound chip using the 
snd-via8233 sound driver. My problem is that sound in my games is choppy, 
almost a stutter. This is true for the Mandrake games that installed from the 
DVD as well as for Prboom that I download from Mandrake Club and Loki's Heavy 
Gear II. I have a recommended install with all of the KDE Mulitimedia stuff 
installed. I was hopeing that someone could help me sort this out. There are 
no errors when a game is run from commandline, and I am out of options to 
try. Thanks for your Help.
- -- 
	Yours,
	Ralph.
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We share the same sound chip and same make of mobo, mine is setup
with alsa with aRts enabled, I too have a slight problem with sound, but 
only
with cetain mp3 players, it too is rather garbled , wobbly , and I didn't
have this problem whatsoever with M8.2, but I have it this time with M9.0

Everything else seems fine. The commandline mp3 is worst, kde mp3 player
next worst. None of the wav file players or music cd players seem to 
have any
problems at all.

John

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Re: [newbie] Need help for Sound in Mandrake 9.0 using VT8233 (AC97 sound chip)

2002-12-17 Thread Ralph De Witt
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 Hi:
 I am using a MSI KT3 ULTRA2 mobo. That has a VT 8233 AC97 sound chip using
  the snd-via8233 sound driver. My problem is that sound in my games is
  choppy, almost a stutter. This is true for the Mandrake games that
  installed from the DVD as well as for Prboom that I download from
  Mandrake Club and Loki's Heavy Gear II. I have a recommended install with
  all of the KDE Mulitimedia stuff installed. I was hopeing that someone
  could help me sort this out. There are no errors when a game is run from
  commandline, and I am out of options to try. Thanks for your Help.
 - --
  Yours,
  Ralph.
 It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed Mandrake-Linux 9.0
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 We share the same sound chip and same make of mobo, mine is setup
 with alsa with aRts enabled, I too have a slight problem with sound, but
 only
 with cetain mp3 players, it too is rather garbled , wobbly , and I didn't
 have this problem whatsoever with M8.2, but I have it this time with M9.0

 Everything else seems fine. The commandline mp3 is worst, kde mp3 player
 next worst. None of the wav file players or music cd players seem to
 have any
 problems at all.

 John
John:
It is the same here. I just wish it could be fixed. I went into MCC and had a 
look in the hardware module, sound configuration in my set up this is all 
blank. Perhaps the problem lies there. My problem is that I have no knowledge 
of what should be there to make it work.
- -- 
Yours,
Ralph.
It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed Mandrake-Linux 9.0 
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Re: [newbie] Need Help configuring Mozilla/*.pdf

2002-07-30 Thread Erylon Hines

Since no one could answer this question, I spent several hours looking for 
the solution.  My problem stems from the plugger.so plug-in having already 
registered the pdf mime type to xpdf.

Here is what I found about how to fix it and make Adobe Acrobat the default 
app for opening *.pdf files with Mozilla.

Install Acrobat and be sure a copy of acroread is in your path.  Link 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and nppdf.so (the acrobat plug-in).  

cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins 
ln -s /usr/local/Acrobat4/Browsers/intellinux/nppdf.so

Move the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/plugger.so to a directory not in your path 
(/home/public is a good one for this).  Open Mozilla and the About:plugins 
will no longer show any mime types handled by plugger.  Close Mozilla.

Edit the /etc/pluggerrc file and comment out any line referring to the pdf 
mime type:

#application/pdf:pdf:PDF file
#application/x-pdf:pdf:PDF file
#text/x-pdf:pdf:PDF file
#repeat swallow(documentShell) fill: acroread -geometry +9000+9000 -xrm 
userFrontEndProgram: FALSE' $file
# repeat swallow(xpdf) fill:xpdf -g +9000+9000 -err $file

Save your edited file.

Move the plugger.so back to the /usr/lib/mozilla plugins directory.

That works!  Adobe Acrobat now opens *.pdf files in Mozilla.  And I hope  
this helps someone else and that my taking up the bandwidth hasn't been a 
solution in search of a problem.

e.

 I have a site that I must get *.pdf forms from, but xpdf persists in
 cutting off one side so that I cannot print the form correctly.  I
 discovered that the Linux version of Acrobat does not do this, but Mozilla
 persists in opening all *.pdf files with xpdf, even though I have set
 acroread to open that file extension.  Can someone tell me what I need to
 do to change the helper application to Acrobat from xpdf?  Or, as an
 alternative, what do I need to do to correctly show and print forms with
 xpdf?

 I didn't have any trouble at all getting Opera to use acroread, but I can't
 figure out how to get Mozilla to do it.

 thanks in advance,

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Re: [newbie] Need help on GAIM

2002-06-16 Thread Alastair Scott

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On Thursday 13 June 2002 9:32 am, _nasturtium wrote:

 Hello,
   I'm using GAIM (i downloaded MEGS of everybuddy mdk rpms and
 none worked!) and i've loaded the msn plugin.
   I can instant message, join chatrooms(MSN) but i can't start
 a chatroom or invite people.

   Any ideas?
   Thanks,
   _nasturtium

The protocol might not be completely implemented, but I can't tell 
because the documentation

http://gaim.sourceforge.net/documentation.php

isn't complete either :/

Are you using the CVS source (see 'Nightlies: tarball' on 
gaim.sourceforge.net)? I see a new version (date 15 June) is out, and 
in my experience the CVS versionis OK for using in anger.

Alastair
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Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem

2002-05-15 Thread Robin Turner

Yay, got a sort of 8.2 running!

Turned out it was the new kernel my system didn't like.  What I found 
worked in the end was:

1.  Boot from 8.2 disk (expert mode)
2.  Select upgrade packages only
3.  Boot with old-linux (i.e. the old kernel)

In fact I only upgraded the packages I needed - you can use the 
installation disks as a kind of super Software Manager.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem

2002-05-15 Thread Stormjumper

hi Robin,

can i check the version numbers of the following components?
1. kernel
2. xfree
3. any other you think may be helpful.
- Original Message -
From: Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem


 Yay, got a sort of 8.2 running!

 Turned out it was the new kernel my system didn't like.  What I found
 worked in the end was:

 1.  Boot from 8.2 disk (expert mode)
 2.  Select upgrade packages only
 3.  Boot with old-linux (i.e. the old kernel)

 In fact I only upgraded the packages I needed - you can use the
 installation disks as a kind of super Software Manager.

 Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem

2002-05-12 Thread Stormjumper

thanks for all the suggestions.

i do not have interrupt conflicts,
so thta isn't the problem.

this issue seems to be common, altho not
widespread amongst the recent distributions,
as i've tried Mandrake 8.2, Peanut 9.2,
gentoo 1.1a, so it seems to be something
new that is causing it.

at this stage, i suspect it may be certain
kernel parameters of the 2.4.18 kernel.
since the earlier distros seem to be working fine.

(like Robin Turner has already remarked,
it doesn't happen on Mandrake 8.0 with my system too,
and our systems don't have much in common in
terms of hardware.)

when i'm free, hopefully in abt 2 weeks,
i'll try to compile a early kernel,
with Mandrake 8.2 in console mode,
and see if my X will run w/o crashing.
(any suggestions? was thinking of 2.4.10 vanilla)

the other possiblility may be X 4.2.x,
but i doubt it.

in the meantime, if anyone else sees any useful
info on this topic, pls do post it on this list.

thanks again.
- Original Message -
From: Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem


 On Friday 10 May 2002 07:33, Stormjumper wrote:
  hello,
 
  got a small problem here.
  just installed Mandrake 8.2 on my laptop.
 
  however, after logging in to any graphical UI
  (include KDE and IceWM, Blackbox,)
  the system freezes up totally within seconds of
  running any real application, eg xmms, mozilla.
  this is consistent behaviour.
  mouse, kb, sound, CTRL-ALT-BkSp, CTRL-ALT-Del, etc
  all fails.
 
  however, the system is rock stable in non-X console,
  or if i just click around in, say twm,
  w/o opening any applications, i can do that forever
  w/o bringing down the machine.
 
  does anyone know anything i can do to troubleshoot?
 
  my system config is Compaq Armada 3500 laptop, 128mb ram
  P-II 300mhz, ESS1869, Chips and Tech 69000 PCI (2mb)
  Xircom Cardbus Realport Ethernet + Modem.

 I have a similar problem on my PC (P-II 350MHz, 128MB RAM GeForce II,
 AWE64 soundcard, everything else bog-standard generic hardware).  It
 doesn't freeze immediately or consistently (except that opening a
 website in Konqueror is guarantedd to freeze it) but will almost
 certainly freeze within ten minutes of use (console games seem to be
 an exception here).  In a few cases it didn't freeze but simply
 rebooted itself (oh well, saved me the trouble of leaning over to hit
 the restart button).

 I installed 8.2 in Expert mode, then again in standard mode just to
 make sure I hadn't done something stupid.  Installing the updates
 made no difference either, and there was no difference between using
 the XF86 and NVIDIA drivers.  This machine worked fine out of the
 box on 8.0 (and, with an older graphics card, on 7.0, 7.2 and RedHat
 6.0).

 Sir Robin






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Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem

2002-05-12 Thread Robin Turner

On Sunday 12 May 2002 12:05, Stormjumper wrote:
 thanks for all the suggestions.

 i do not have interrupt conflicts,
 so thta isn't the problem.

 this issue seems to be common, altho not
 widespread amongst the recent distributions,
 as i've tried Mandrake 8.2, Peanut 9.2,
 gentoo 1.1a, so it seems to be something
 new that is causing it.

 at this stage, i suspect it may be certain
 kernel parameters of the 2.4.18 kernel.
 since the earlier distros seem to be working fine.

 (like Robin Turner has already remarked,
 it doesn't happen on Mandrake 8.0 with my system too,
 and our systems don't have much in common in
 terms of hardware.)

Yeah, I checked my IRQs in the BIOS and in Windows device Manager 
(see, Windows is good for something!) and nothing untoward seems to 
be going on there either.

One thing I've noticed that is different with 8.2 is that PnP 
detection has been beefed up a little.  I falsely said that my Cirrus 
Logic winmodem had not been detected; in fact it had not only been 
detected, but installed at /dev/modem, and even worked, at least 
until the inevitable X-freeze.  I removed it as someone (Roman?) 
suggested and got my external modem working as in previous installs, 
but it didn't solve the problem.

8.2 is also the first distro to get my AWE64 soundcard working 
without having to run sndconfig manually.  The interesting thing is 
that it doesn't _think_  it works; the summary screen in the 
installer doesn't show anything for soundcard, and running a probe 
just tells me to run sndconfig after installation.  But I have sound 
all the same.  Maybe I should take out the soundcard too, reinstall, 
put it back in and run sndconfig.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] need help with Mandrake crashing problem

2002-05-12 Thread Michael Adams

On Sunday 12 May 2002 09:05 pm, Stormjumper wrote:

snip

 when i'm free, hopefully in abt 2 weeks,
 i'll try to compile a early kernel,
 with Mandrake 8.2 in console mode,
 and see if my X will run w/o crashing.
 (any suggestions? was thinking of 2.4.10 vanilla)

 the other possiblility may be X 4.2.x,
 but i doubt it.

 in the meantime, if anyone else sees any useful
 info on this topic, pls do post it on this list.

snip

I f you boot with CD2, other kernals may be installed from it. Sorry i don't 
know the procedure but it may be like a rescue.

Sorry i couldn't be more help.

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Re: [newbie] Need help with inittab

2002-04-30 Thread Paul

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:08:51 -0700 Eric wrote:

I changed a line in this and now I can't boot up. Is there any way back
in so I can change it back?

Boot from the installation CD, hit F1 for more options and type rescue
at the prompt (without the quotes)

That gets you into your system.
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Re: [newbie] Need help with inittab

2002-04-30 Thread Barry Premeaux

On Tuesday 30 April 2002 01:08 am, you wrote:
 I changed a line in this and now I can't boot up. Is there any way back
 in so I can change it back?


  Mithrilhall's Linux Server
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Boot from CD1

Do 'F1'

Type 'rescue' at the prompt.

Type 'chroot /mnt' (this will give you access to your files).

You can then use the vi editor to restore the line in your inittab file.

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Re: [newbie] Need help with inittab

2002-04-30 Thread Diego García

may if you must try to recover from one backup file, please rename your old
inittab files, eveven worst but an idea, you can use another inittab files and
cfombine with your old corrupted files. Be carefully, not all services will be
running corectly but this is an start point.

Dr. gz


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Re: [newbie] Need help using a usb SanDisk cardreader

2002-01-13 Thread Bryan S.Tyson

On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Dave wrote:

 I am having problems getting images from my usb sandisk cardreader. 
 Any ideas how I can access the sandisk? Hopefully as if it was just 
 another drive?

modprobe usb-storage
mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /compactflash (or whatever mount point you want)

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Re: [newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm

2002-01-01 Thread Paul

On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:48:32 -0500, eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear linux-mandrake users:

  I ever upgrade glibc-devel from 2.2.2 to 2.2.4 but it seem not nice to
compile my c++ program-many compile error, so I decide to erase 2.2.4
then reinstall 2.2.2

but when I do erase by rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4

You could use the -force option with rpm.

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RE: [newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm

2002-01-01 Thread Franki

rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4 --nodeps

then put the old one back on.


rgds

Frank

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Subject: [newbie] need help on erase glibc-devel-2.2.4-18mdk rpm


Dear linux-mandrake users:

  I ever upgrade glibc-devel from 2.2.2 to 2.2.4 but it seem not nice to
compile my c++ program-many compile error, so I decide to erase 2.2.4
then reinstall 2.2.2

but when I do erase by rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4

[root@localhost ~/c_program]# rpm -e glibc-devel-2.2.4
error: removing these packages would break dependencies:
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-c++-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-c++-2.96-0.69mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-g77-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc-objc-2.96-0.48mdk
glibc-devel is needed by gcc3.0-3.0.1-1mdk

how should I let it down then reinstall 8.0 cd's 2.2.2?

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Re: [newbie] Need help to setup LOCAL DOMAIN

2001-11-26 Thread Michael Viron

At 11:52 PM 11/25/2001 -0700, you wrote:

Hi,

Could please give an example  of what you meant by Network Filesystem?

Typically this is a drive (in Windows) or a filesystem (in linux) that is
mounted from a different PC / server either via nfs (for linux) or via
samba (for windows).

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Re: [newbie] Need help to setup LOCAL DOMAIN

2001-11-25 Thread lee

Most on here seem to prefer squid for proxy software.It's available in mdk 
8.1 I know for sure,or from squid-cache.org. There's a config file under etc 
directory..something like /etc/squid/config  :-)

ok..definitions.I'll do the best I can here,altho there are others that can 
no doubt explain this better than I. A router is a piece of hardware that 
goes between your hosts and your proxy server..acting as a traffic cop 
would..A proxy server on the other hand takes what the router(or switch,or 
hub) gives it and directs it on(usually to the internet).

Hope I've helped at least a little bit here.

Lee




On Sunday 25 November 2001 21:41, you wrote:
 Hi,

 Could any of you please tell me how to setup my Linux server acts like
 local (intranet) domain for all other computers (Win  Linux). Do I need
 to use any kind of software to setup local domain? What software is need
 to setup proxy server on Linux machine? What is the difference between
 proxy  router?

 Thank you

 Tuan
 PS. I am not good at console mode so please give me some GUI to setup
 these things if you can.


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Re: [newbie] Need help to setup LOCAL DOMAIN

2001-11-25 Thread CmdrRoot

Alright...From what I know here is what I think/can remeber

To serve windoze computers you want to use SAMBA, an open source
implementation of SMB.A GUI tool for this is GNOMBA.

To serve Linux  Windoze computers depending on how many you have, I
reccomend setting up a Network Filesystem that serves all the clients as
though they where on.



Basically (cuz you wanted GUI stuff) setting up a proxy server could probably be done 
in mandrake control centre maybe under something like firewall configuration.


CmdrRoot


On 25 Nov 2001 18:41:46 -0800, Tuan Tran wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Could any of you please tell me how to setup my Linux server acts like
 local (intranet) domain for all other computers (Win  Linux). Do I need
 to use any kind of software to setup local domain? What software is need
 to setup proxy server on Linux machine? What is the difference between
 proxy  router?
 
 Thank you
 
 Tuan
 PS. I am not good at console mode so please give me some GUI to setup
 these things if you can.
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Need help to setup LOCAL DOMAIN

2001-11-25 Thread Frank McKenna


Hi,

Could please give an example  of what you meant by Network Filesystem?

 recomend setting up a Network Filesystem that serves all the clients as
 though they where on.



 Basically (cuz you wanted GUI stuff) setting up a proxy server could
probably be done in mandrake control centre maybe under something like
firewall configuration.


 CmdrRoot


 On 25 Nov 2001 18:41:46 -0800, Tuan Tran wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Could any of you please tell me how to setup my Linux server acts like
  local (intranet) domain for all other computers (Win  Linux). Do I need
  to use any kind of software to setup local domain? What software is need
  to setup proxy server on Linux machine? What is the difference between
  proxy  router?
 
  Thank you
 
  Tuan
  PS. I am not good at console mode so please give me some GUI to setup
  these things if you can.
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Need help with rpmdrake

2001-10-24 Thread Newbie

Oh, not yet, what is the url to the new rpmdrake?

On Tuesday 23 October 2001 09:56 pm, you wrote:
 Have you tried upgrading to the newest version of rpmdrake from one of
 the ftp's on the website?  I had a similar problem, but it was cleared
 up by updating rpmdrake.

 -Paul Rodríguez

 On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 01:13, Newbie wrote:
  I don't understand these errors.
 
  How can I fix my rpmdrake?
  It will not update my list of mirrors,
  so I can't do any updates.
 
  rpmdrake
  * Connected to www.linux-mandrake.com (63.209.80.235)
 
   GET /mirrorsfull.list HTTP/1.1
 
  Host: www.linux-mandrake.com
  Pragma: no-cache
  Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, */*
 
  * Connection (#0) left alive
  * Closing live connection (#0)
  --00:11:32--
  ftp://ftp.stealth.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.mandrake.com/Mandrake/update/8.1/de
 scriptions = `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing'
  Connecting to ftp.stealth.net:21... connected!
  Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
  == SYST ...
  Server error, can't determine system type.
  done.== PWD ... done.
  == TYPE I ... done.  == CWD
  /pub/mirrors/ftp.mandrake.com/Mandrake/update/8.1
  ...
  No such directory `pub/mirrors/ftp.mandrake.com/Mandrake/update/8.1'.
 
  unlink: No such file or directory
  --00:11:37--
  ftp://ftp.stealth.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.mandrake.com/Mandrake/update/8.1/ba
 se/hdlist.cz = `/var/cache/urpmi/partial/.listing'
  Connecting to ftp.stealth.net:21... connected!
  Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
  == SYST ...
  Server error, can't determine system type.
  done.== PWD ... done.
  == TYPE I ... done.  == CWD
  /pub/mirrors/ftp.mandrake.com/Mandrake/update/8.1/base ...
  No such directory
  `pub/mirrors/ftp.mandrake.com/Mandrake/update/8.1/base'.
 
  unlink: No such file or directory
  wget of [source_url/../base/hdlist.cz] failed
  no hdlist file found for medium ftp.stealth.net
  unable to update medium ftp.stealth.net
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Need Help

2001-09-27 Thread poogle

On Wednesday 26 September 2001 22:11, you wrote:
 Does anyone know how I can change the email address that i get these
 messages sent to???

 Thanks

 Jeff

How about unsubscribing using your current e mail address and then 
subscribing again with your new one ? 
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Re: [newbie] Need help with Squid

2001-09-13 Thread Robt. Miller

 If I do that I can't even get the Access Configuration error - maybe because it 
doesn't know about port 3128? Is 
this supposed to work without configuring it as a proxy?


On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:24:32 -0400, etharp wrote:

try turing off the proxy selection in win98


On Wednesday 12 September 2001 10:55, you had thoughts to the concept of:
  I'm trying to configure Squid with the following squid.conf file but I'm
 getting the following error at the Win98 workstation..
 Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at
 this time. The workstation's address is 10.2.1.77 and it can ping and
 Telnet into the Mandrake box - it looks to me to be some kind of
 permissions problem but I'm totally at a loss - I've read the FAQ and it
 appears to me that it's set up correctly. What should I try?


 httpd_accel_host virtual
 httpd_accel_port 80
 httpd_accel_with_proxy on
 httpd_accel_uses_host_header on
 acl internal src 10.2.1.0/255.255.255.0
 http_access allow internal
 http_access all


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Re: [newbie] Need help with Squid

2001-09-13 Thread Robt. Miller

 Are the IP tables something I'm supposed to build? Does my squid.conf look ok to you? 
If not, can you email 
yours privately?



On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:37:59 -0400, etharp wrote:

yep, as i understand it, and I can connect to the net thru my linux dialup to 
the other wife and kids winder$ boxes with just damn invisable magic. I set 
to automantically detect setings, no proxy in either the dialup or lan 
connection, and just connect. the squid is not a proxy as much as a cache. 
the NAT (Network Address Translation) is done for me by IP tables in any 
version using a 2.4.x kernel. so the other boxes on my little home net don't 
even know they have a server. they just connect without considering it.
On Thursday 13 September 2001 14:55, you had thoughts to the concept of:
  If I do that I can't even get the Access Configuration error - maybe
 because it doesn't know about port 3128? Is this supposed to work without
 configuring it as a proxy?

 On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:24:32 -0400, etharp wrote:
 try turing off the proxy selection in win98
 
 On Wednesday 12 September 2001 10:55, you had thoughts to the concept of:
   I'm trying to configure Squid with the following squid.conf file but
  I'm getting the following error at the Win98 workstation..
  Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at
  this time. The workstation's address is 10.2.1.77 and it can ping and
  Telnet into the Mandrake box - it looks to me to be some kind of
  permissions problem but I'm totally at a loss - I've read the FAQ and it
  appears to me that it's set up correctly. What should I try?
 
 
  httpd_accel_host virtual
  httpd_accel_port 80
  httpd_accel_with_proxy on
  httpd_accel_uses_host_header on
  acl internal src 10.2.1.0/255.255.255.0
  http_access allow internal
  http_access all
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Need help with Squid

2001-09-13 Thread Robt. Miller

 I've been using 10.2.1.x for years here, I'll try changing ip's later. Where's the 
internet connection sharing GUI? I'm 
using v7.02


On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:02:10 -0400, etharp wrote:

I think it is OK but I am not positive if you are using a reserved for 
home lans IP number. where did you get the IP number? I only use 192.168.0.x 
numbers myself, with a netmask of 255.255.255.0  
IPtables were installed when I installed, so I am not sure if you can build 
them, sorry. might be a normal part of the 2.4.x kernal, as installed by 
MDK. have you tryied the internet connection sharing GUI?
On Thursday 13 September 2001 15:50, you had thoughts to the concept of:
  Are the IP tables something I'm supposed to build? Does my squid.conf look
 ok to you? If not, can you email yours privately?

 On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:37:59 -0400, etharp wrote:
 yep, as i understand it, and I can connect to the net thru my linux dialup
  to the other wife and kids winder$ boxes with just damn invisable magic.
  I set to automantically detect setings, no proxy in either the dialup or
  lan connection, and just connect. the squid is not a proxy as much as a
  cache. the NAT (Network Address Translation) is done for me by IP tables
  in any version using a 2.4.x kernel. so the other boxes on my little home
  net don't even know they have a server. they just connect without
  considering it.
 
 On Thursday 13 September 2001 14:55, you had thoughts to the concept of:
   If I do that I can't even get the Access Configuration error - maybe
  because it doesn't know about port 3128? Is this supposed to work
  without configuring it as a proxy?
 
  On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:24:32 -0400, etharp wrote:
  try turing off the proxy selection in win98
  
  On Wednesday 12 September 2001 10:55, you had thoughts to the concept 
of:
I'm trying to configure Squid with the following squid.conf file but
   I'm getting the following error at the Win98 workstation..
   Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed
   at this time. The workstation's address is 10.2.1.77 and it can ping
   and Telnet into the Mandrake box - it looks to me to be some kind of
   permissions problem but I'm totally at a loss - I've read the FAQ and
   it appears to me that it's set up correctly. What should I try?
  
  
   httpd_accel_host virtual
   httpd_accel_port 80
   httpd_accel_with_proxy on
   httpd_accel_uses_host_header on
   acl internal src 10.2.1.0/255.255.255.0
   http_access allow internal
   http_access all
  
  
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  Content-Description:
  


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Re: [newbie] Need help on PCI Modem installation

2001-05-30 Thread h3rb

NO one is gonna find any modem there...There is none listed.  And it says 
most winmodems, however some are supported.

MODEM:

Most modems and ISDN adaptors are supported. Most Win-modems are NOT 
supported.

On Wednesday 30 May 2001 03:39, Eric Lauritzen wrote:
 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fhard.php3#modem

 That's the linke to Mandrake supported hardware.  You won't find you modem
 there, but if you plan to replace you modem you might find the list of
 supported modems helpful.

 Eric


 - Original Message -
 From: Frederic O Kho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:03 PM
 Subject: [newbie] Need help on PCI Modem installation

  Guys,
 
  Pls. help. I have Mandrake 8 installed and it could not detect my
  internal

 modem. The modem specs are:
  Manufacturer: Cirrus Logic, Inc.
  Chipset: CL-MD5620-DT
  Memory: 32K DSP RAM
  UART: 16550AN
 
  This modem works well in Windows. Any of you have this problem?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Deric
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Need help on PCI Modem installation

2001-05-29 Thread gizim69

This is what you call a WINMODEM they use the OS (This case Windows) to
use the modem.
Linux does not support WINMODEMS Never will
You have to get a HARDWARE Modem or a External Modem.

On Wed, 30 May 2001 14:03:58 +0800 Frederic O Kho
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Guys,
 
 Pls. help. I have Mandrake 8 installed and it could not detect my 
 internal modem. The modem specs are:
 
 Manufacturer: Cirrus Logic, Inc.
 Chipset: CL-MD5620-DT
 Memory: 32K DSP RAM
 UART: 16550AN
 
 This modem works well in Windows. Any of you have this problem?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Deric
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Need help on PCI Modem installation

2001-05-29 Thread h3rb

Negative.  Winmodems are supported.  http://www.linmodems.org

On Wednesday 30 May 2001 02:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is what you call a WINMODEM they use the OS (This case Windows) to
 use the modem.
 Linux does not support WINMODEMS Never will
 You have to get a HARDWARE Modem or a External Modem.

 On Wed, 30 May 2001 14:03:58 +0800 Frederic O Kho

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Guys,
 
  Pls. help. I have Mandrake 8 installed and it could not detect my
  internal modem. The modem specs are:
 
  Manufacturer: Cirrus Logic, Inc.
  Chipset: CL-MD5620-DT
  Memory: 32K DSP RAM
  UART: 16550AN
 
  This modem works well in Windows. Any of you have this problem?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Deric
 
 
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Re: [newbie] Need help installing 2 NICs

2001-04-09 Thread CB

Lon Lentz wrote:

 2 identical ISA NE2000 comp. cards. Win98, on the same machine, recognizes

same here

 both of them and sets them okay. I'm assuming I have to get Linux to
 recognize these before I can assign them as eth0 and eth1. The installer

You must first know the io and irq addresses for both cards.  Then put
them in order as below (eth0 is 0x300,10 and eth1 is 0x320,11 on my
machine)  From a RedHat system, but should be about the same.  This is
in my rc.sysinit somewhere after the swap is enabled.

action "Forcing network modules" modprobe ne io=0x300,0x320 irq=10,11
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Re: [newbie] need help on DSL with LM7.2

2001-03-06 Thread Glenn Johnson


Install rp-pppoe. All you will need to know for that
install is your user name, password, and what eth card you will be using.
In my case Imade sure I chose eth0, which is the only eth card in
my box. When asked for a DNSnumber type 'server'. Choose 1,2,or 3
for the built in firewalling. Then, in a terminal type 'adsl-start' and
see if you can move about the web. It's that simple.


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Re: [newbie] need help on DSL with LM7.2

2001-03-04 Thread eric

I do have static ip and gateway, 
I also tried both  with ppoe and withuot pppoe in DSL network of
Drakeconf

I also tried adsl-start
pppoe(timeout)


but still failed
I can see my eth0 by ifconfig

my kernel is 2.2.17,  DSL modem is Cisco 678  isp is qwest

not work need help


Anthony wrote:
 
 I might be wrong in your case, but I'm using a 675, and did not use
 pppoe. This may be where the trouble lies.
 
 Anthony
 
 eric wrote:
 
  I had Qwest.net 's Cisco 678 dsl modem and intel ethernet card, my isp
  told me my scriber line is on and three green light on dsl modem (lnk of
  wan and lan adn power) os keep on with yellow flash light on ACT of wan
  and lan
 
  I tried to use DrakeConfig and pppoe wtih dhcp
 
  still get error
 
  The ysstem does not seem to be connected to internet
  Try to reconfigure your connect
 



  my isp told me in window platform I should check gateway/route as
  10.0.0.1, how it mean to linux?
 
  need help
  Sincere
  eric




Re: [newbie] need help on DSL with LM7.2

2001-03-04 Thread Steelhead

the issue is in the netconf setting I expect.  With a static IP and access
throgh a nic/modem setup... ppoe is not needed.  Set it up as a standard
network.  I did so for both home and office on Pacbell's flavor of DSL for
almost 2 years.  I am now trying to futz with a cable modem... pumpd does
not work right on 7.1.


my 2 cents.
Steelhead.

- Original Message -
From: eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help on DSL with LM7.2


 I do have static ip and gateway,
 I also tried both  with ppoe and withuot pppoe in DSL network of
 Drakeconf

 I also tried adsl-start
 pppoe(timeout)


 but still failed
 I can see my eth0 by ifconfig

 my kernel is 2.2.17,  DSL modem is Cisco 678  isp is qwest

 not work need help


 Anthony wrote:
 
  I might be wrong in your case, but I'm using a 675, and did not use
  pppoe. This may be where the trouble lies.
 
  Anthony
 
  eric wrote:
  
   I had Qwest.net 's Cisco 678 dsl modem and intel ethernet card, my isp
   told me my scriber line is on and three green light on dsl modem (lnk
of
   wan and lan adn power) os keep on with yellow flash light on ACT of
wan
   and lan
  
   I tried to use DrakeConfig and pppoe wtih dhcp
  
   still get error
  
   The ysstem does not seem to be connected to internet
   Try to reconfigure your connect
  



   my isp told me in window platform I should check gateway/route as
   10.0.0.1, how it mean to linux?
  
   need help
   Sincere
   eric







Re: [newbie] need help on DSL with LM7.2

2001-03-04 Thread eric


so dyou mean i should click network infomation System
then how do I fill in NIS domain and NIS server?

I ever go to my isp 's web to configure static ip and domain, configure
Forward DNS Records
it ask me to fill in fully qualifed hostmanme

then I  fill in myLoginName.qwest.net
but it response error , domain is not assigned to you

I am using kernel 2.2.17 with dsl modem cisco 678

need  help again
sincere
eric



Steelhead wrote:
 
 the issue is in the netconf setting I expect.  With a static IP and access
 throgh a nic/modem setup... ppoe is not needed.  Set it up as a standard
 network.  I did so for both home and office on Pacbell's flavor of DSL for
 almost 2 years.  I am now trying to futz with a cable modem... pumpd does
 not work right on 7.1.
 
 my 2 cents.
 Steelhead.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 12:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] need help on DSL with LM7.2
 
  I do have static ip and gateway,
  I also tried both  with ppoe and withuot pppoe in DSL network of
  Drakeconf
 
  I also tried adsl-start
  pppoe(timeout)
 
 
  but still failed
  I can see my eth0 by ifconfig
 
  my kernel is 2.2.17,  DSL modem is Cisco 678  isp is qwest
 
  not work need help
 
 
  Anthony wrote:
  
   I might be wrong in your case, but I'm using a 675, and did not use
   pppoe. This may be where the trouble lies.
  
   Anthony
  
   eric wrote:
   
I had Qwest.net 's Cisco 678 dsl modem and intel ethernet card, my isp
told me my scriber line is on and three green light on dsl modem (lnk
 of
wan and lan adn power) os keep on with yellow flash light on ACT of
 wan
and lan
   
I tried to use DrakeConfig and pppoe wtih dhcp
   
still get error
   
The ysstem does not seem to be connected to internet
Try to reconfigure your connect
   
 
 
 
my isp told me in window platform I should check gateway/route as
10.0.0.1, how it mean to linux?
   
need help
Sincere
eric
 
 




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