[newbie-it] Send...
Saro' brevissima... all'inizio, nonostante l'aiuto di syd, non andava nulla, nemmeno mutt metteva le mail nello spool. Poi ho disinstallato tutto e reinstallato sendmail... PARTONO E ARRIVANO!!! -- Burp! Arwan
Re: [newbie-it] sendmail
On Thursday 26 June 2003 17:26, Luigi Pinna wrote: Il mio problema è quindi capire come dover configurare sendmail appunto, uhmm, forse non ho capito io il problemama sendmail non serve ad inviare? :) in modo che faccia questo lavoro (scsricare la posta e cancellarla dal web) in Kmail tra configura-rete-ricezione-modifica c'è un opzione che permette di cancellare i mess dal server e come impostare in Kmail il filtro in modo che non mi prelevi tutte le mail incasinandole in un'unica cartella. per quello ci sono una marea di modi di filtraggio.. se nell ogg c'è [newbie-it] -- sposta nella cartella MDK se il mandante è [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sposta in /dev/null e cosi via.. non so se era questo che chiedevi incaso contrario chiedo scusa per lo spam -- Ciao , Tom . ~ . / v \ / / \ \ / ( ) \ ^^ ^^ A uno ho detto: Tu camminerai, e dopo due giorni gli hanno fregato la macchina. (Mago Oronzo - Raul Cremona) Slack 9.0 Linux user Tattari_manna aka plugs Mauro... un'ammaestratore di liste ... un incubo!
Re: [newbie-it] sendmail
* Luigi Pinna wrote: Ciao a tutti! A questo punto del discorso, mi permetto di chiedere una divagazione. Scherzi.. divagare e' bellissimo.. purifica lo spirito e il corpo :) Io voglio continuare ad usare Kmail, E mi sembra giusto. Io kmail lo usai un paio di mesi, circa due anni fa pero' gia' allora era un client abbastanza performante e con molte opzioni a livello di configurazione. Voglio dire.. sempre che non abbia capito male.. ha ragione Tom quando ti fa notare che molto probabilmente smanettando un po' di piu' puoi riuscire a fare quello che tu vuoi (cancellare le mail scaricate dal server, smistarle in cartelle diverse in base alla politica di filtraggio sulla quale hai un'ampia scelta di opzioni) Essendo appunto connesso 24h al giorno volevo avere la possibilità di scaricare la posta quasi continuamente per questioni di sicurezza. Non ci credo che kmail tra le sue configurazioni non riporta la possibilita' di interrogare i server pop anche una volta al minuto. Controlla meglio. Certo, questo vuol dire tenere aperto kmail praticamente sempre. Adesso ho capito :) Il mio problema è quindi capire come dover configurare sendmail appunto, in modo che faccia questo lavoro (scsricare la posta e cancellarla dal web) e come impostare in Kmail il filtro in modo che non mi prelevi tutte le mail incasinandole in un'unica cartella. Con sendmail non scarichi ma al massimo smisti in locale (oltre ad inviare) dopo aver scaricato con un altro programma.. chiamiamolo per nome.. fetchmail. In definitiva Luigi io credo che con kmail tu possa soddisfare tutte le tue esigenze. Se poi ti scoccia tenere sempre aperto kmail (a me scoccerebbe) allora devi valutare la possibilita' di gestire il download delle mail tramite fetchmail opportunamente configurato. Sendmail verrebbe chiamato in causa per smistare tra i diversi file (ma bada che sendmail si rivolge a procmail per fare questo.. quindi potresti richiamare direttamente procmail tramite l'opportuna opzione all'inetrno di .fetchmailrc). Fetchmail dovresti naturalmente lanciarlo con l'opzione -d xm dove d sta per demone (ti lavorera' quindi in background) x e' un numero e m sta per minuti. Ogni x minuti fetch interroghera' tutti i server pop che tu gli avrai indicato. Chiaramente i file nei quali si accoderanno le mail dovranno coincidere con quelli gestiti da kmail. Qui potresti avere qualche problemino ma non credo sia impossibile fare una cosa del genere. Luigi.. se ho capito male, prova a riformulare le domande. Se ho capito bene, rispulciati kmail, valuta la possibilita'/necessita' di usare fetchmail e per la configurazione di questo e procmail non posso che rimandarti alle decine di mail che in questi giorni ci siamo scambiati con Arwan e Giuseppe. Naturalmente se qualcosa di specifico non ti e' chiara.. chiedi pure. Qualcosa mi dice che non ho capito bene le tue domande :( Vabbe'.. ora mi vado a mangiare un sostanzioso spago aglio, olio e peperoncino che magari il cervello mi si rischiara. -- syd - LU 285930 * LM 167646 -
[newbie-it] cancellazione newsletter
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Re: [newbie-it] cancellazione newsletter
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[newbie-it] Modem USB o ethernet è indifferente?
Hello lista, una domandina veloce: quando faccio la domanda per avere l'ADSL, e la telecom mi dice ok, è indifferente che il modem sia ethernet oppure USB? Cioè, se io richiedo un modem USB, per fare un esempio, posso un domani cambiarlo con un ethernet senza problemi, oppure devo avvisare la telecom, che deve intervenire sulla linea? Scusate i termini.. impropri, ma spero di essere stato comprensibile lo stesso 10x Mauro
Re: [newbie] Kvirc
For MDK 9.0 it's here: ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/Mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPMS/ Just scroll down till you find it, download and install with rpm -ivh kvirc*.rpm For MDK 9.1 it's here: ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/ Just do the same as above. Then you might want to go to the plf site below and make sure your contrib source is configured properly. Jim On Wednesday 25 June 2003 06:16 pm, Dan Gordon wrote: On June 25, 2003 01:31 pm, JoeHill wrote: 1. Go here and configure all your souces: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php 2. then as root, urpmi kvirc Did this and output was no package named kvirc lol i dont think someone wants me in irc rofl Regards, Dan Gordon -- 6:01pm up 3 days, 22:15, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.05 Running Mandrake 9.0 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake! Support Mandrake if your one of us.!!!
I will second this... Anyone that cares about mandrake linux should vote for Mandrake ... If novell end up extending their support to add Mandrake to the list as well as Redhat and SUSE (the later of which mandrake is currently tied with on the novell survey.) It will give mandrake a slice of the enterprise market that they could surely benefit from. Comeon guys, support your favorite distro,, this is the sort of thing that gets linux on corporate desktops.. lets make an effort to make Mandrake one of them. http://www.novell.com/linux/ regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Miark Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 12:04 AM To: Newbie Cc: Expert Subject: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake! Let Novell know who ya love :-) http://www.novell.com/linux/ See the poll in the right-most column. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KEditBookmarks -- Really S-l-o-w!
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 15:20, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 00:19, Technoslick wrote: Stephen! That's not fair! You covered all your bases with that shotgun approach. ;0) (Solly Cholly) I don't doubt all those contribute to my problem. However, I was wondering about the way KDE stores and indexes (if any) the bookmarks. Doesn't it just suck stuff from say, a Galeon .XBEL and convert it into a Konqueror formatted HTML page? I'm trying to figure out now exactly how indexing is done, but not getting very far... I do know, though, that it's stored in ~/home/usernamegoeshere/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml ...so wouldn't that really have to do with parsing a file of large size - albeit an XML, but that would/SHOULD be a function of how Konqueror parses the file...ya? I haven't had the time to sort through all the imported links, but many were three levels down, and therefore are up to four levels down now. Maybe, KDE has a problem working with that kind of hierarchy? It's not really a hierarchy - in a static sense - it's a hierarchy inside of the XML document, though...but overall, it's a static document; Konqueror would be tripping the light fantastic trying to sort through it and present folders as it were, along with their contents... I have to sort though all these links, anyway. Many are now dead. As I reorganize them, dropping the dead and no longer intersting ones, I hope to find a workable compromise. Check Status: All ...that SHOULD find all yer dead links - but from what I understand already, it would take a fair long while, ay? Me I just switch to another browser. The page is there somewhere. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] drive partitions... archives, etc
It looks like others are helping you with the drive stuff, but since you lost it all, here are links to archives, etc. Speaking of the newsgroup, anyone spent much time over there? Hope this helps: Partitions: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbiew=2r=1s=partitionsq=b General archives urls: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1w=2 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ alt.os.linux.mandrake archived on google groups: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8group=alt.os.linux.mandrake TWIKI: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeReferences Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop?
On June 25, 2003 03:49 am, Robin Turner wrote: Frankie wrote: Why??? This will not hurt apple as much as you think.. The reason is that M$ make their money in the PC world just from the software.. so when people don't use it, it hurts them.. If people buy a mac, and put linux on it.. I can't see Apple being too upset about it.. since they got the money from the hardware anyway.. Mac users are a loyal lot.. I can't see many of them swapping to a intel/amd system with linux.. more likely they might dual boot their mac with linux.. so in light of that, I can't see apple losing market share because of linux.. And it might have another benefit as well.. if apple gets any pressure from this..they might start advertising that linux on a mac is the best linux.. which can only be a good thing.. I agree, especially about the loyalty of Mac users. Some of them talk to their Macs. Mac could even end up supporting Linux for some of its users who need that sort of thing (rather like Sun do). One thing I noticed when checking the article that the linked article used as a source was that it said that Linux was predicted to overtake Macintosh by the end of the year, but not that it was eating Apple's market share, as the first article implied. On the contrary, it said that this growth in Linux would push MS's desktop market share below 90%, implying that only a smalll proportion of this Linux growth would be at the expense of Apple. The author's main point was about browsers; if over 10% of web users are not using IE, then webmasters would have a much greater incentive to make their sites standards-compliant, avoiding those IE-only tags which other browsers sometimes choke on. This in turn would encourage users to try alternative browsers to IE. Sir Robin In terms of combined desktops yes...but follow again to the actual report the article is based on and it says something different. It does indeed refer to installed base of Linux desktops passing Apple by year end. My crack about Mac users hating Linux is based on fact when I talk to Apple users. They are even more in the FUD mode than the MS hacks and trollers out there. And it does relate back to the fact that Apple users do, in fact, love their machines and can't for the life of them see why anyone would use anything else. Most of the ones I speak to aren't even aware that there are PPC versions of Linux out there but even suggesting that brings wide eyed rage from most of them. True, there are a few who will dual boot, but not many from my experience. And yes, it would be wonderful if developers would stop those silly IE only tags out there. Or popups that say we only support Windows Media Player as if that's the be all and end all. So if the article accomplishes that it will be helpful. Then again, how many MSCE's read Business Week? How many MSCE's can read? :-) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
I've installed 9.1 nine times now (different machines, including 2 laptops). I have to say, even on very similar machines I've had things come up differently (all work, mind you). What I haven't figured out is why some have the classic style text boot messages, and some the graphical boot messages. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. And one machine has no shutdown messages whatsover, just a blank screen with a blinking cursor--then it turns off. Obviously, it is closing what it needs to, and shutting down properly, but why? I had no option for quiet shutdown at install. Kinda weird--I've probably done 75 or more Linux installs, and I've never seen it before. e. On Wednesday 25 June 2003 01:36 am, John Richard Smith wrote: Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 23 June 2003 10:30 pm, Allan wrote: Hi, Does anyone know why Mandrake 9.1 seems to come up with different results each time I install it? I'm guessing two characteristics are at work together, one, the installer somehow learns something of the nature of your equipement each time, and second the human behind the installer learns something more about the installer's idiosyncracies. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop?
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:28:26 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: yep, a lot of the studios are using Linux clusters as render farms I think they call them. The days of SGI being the wizards are fading... This from the Beowulf site: Beowulf Systems are already being used for ... * Computationally intensive activities: optimization problems, stock trend analysis, complex pattern matching, medical research, genetics research, image rendering * Scientific Computing/Scientific Research: engineering/simulations, 3D modeling, finite element analysis, fluid dynamics, PCB/ASIC routing * Large-scale processing of data: data mining, complex data searches results generation, manipulating large amounts of data, data archival and sorting * Web/Internet needs: Web farms, application serving, transaction serving, calculation serving, data serving -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake juice, anyone?
but we're not petrified yet Whew! Ater today at work, *I* am! My friends ask me why i spend all day designing and programming on a computer at work, then come home and play with the computer. I think maybe this weekend i better go outside and drill holes in stuff... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] tty: how can bash tell which one you logged into?
Hello, If i ctrl-alt-F* to different tty's, is there any way to tell, in a bash script, which one i logged into? I am thinking of having a default login, but run different startups, for example, if i log into tty2, 3, etc. Thanks, eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] network problem - help
I have finally had the chance to get off of dial up and on to a shared dsl. My problem is I cannot get the Internet connection to switch from modem to eth0. The nic is up and connected but when I bring up the mandrake control center and go to networking it only shows the modem as the connection and no matter how many times I run the wizard it will not change. Any help for a old fart. Roly -- MicroSoft - The company that made the internet unsafe! Linux Counter #241069 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
El mié, 25 de 06 de 2003 a las 00:11, Allan escribió: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 01:00, Damian Gatabria wrote: You wanna hear a funny one? If i choose ext3 for the /, my soundcard chipset is not correctly detected... it still works, but the sound is lower quality and choppy... Damian I have the same problem with my sound. Were you able to fix this? Well, as i said, it depends on the file system i choose! it only happens when my / is ext3. When i use Reiser or XFS it works perfectly. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1
Hi all, I have a font problem in java apps running under ML 9.1 which is very hard to explain so I have screenshot showing exactly what I mean. I can send this to anyone who is willing to help. Basically what happens is this. The height of the default java font (Dialog) is not being calculated correctly under ML 9.1. So all components, like buttons, are much higher than they should be. I know that Dialog is just a link which by default points to Lucida Sans and this can be changed in the jre font.properties file. But the strange thing is that if the font of a particular component is set to Lucida Sans directly then the height is calculated correctly and the component looks like it should. So the problem isn't the Lucida Sans font. This can be seen clearly on the screenshot which I made. This only happens on ML 9.1. On 9.0 it works as it should. I have also tried different jre's like Blackdown's 1.4.1 and Sun's 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 beta and they all have this problem. So this is a ML 9.1 specific issue. I have also performed various installations of ML 9.1 on different machines and the results are the same. So if anybody has seen this and can help me I would be very grateful. And don't forget, I can send anyone a screenshot which makes it much clearer to see the problem. TIA, -- Guilherme Cirne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Multiboot on same drive
Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi to John Richard Smith , May the following be of assistance - it is part of a previous message I posted.. This is more detailed than the one posted earlier today - use them both.. snip Something else I would like to point out - I used Mandrake9.1 install partitioning to do the disk - when it reached apps to install I reset the PC. I prefer mandrake partitioninig - more friendly for me. This is for information only to someone who may need it. Have installed 3 OS's on one disk - see below I installed dos - then - redhat - then - mandrake. Do not forget make boot disks. They do not see each other or use each others partitions unless mounted. When I installed redhat I let it install lilo - when you install mandrake it will owerwrite the MBR with its version and this way you can test out redhat before you continue. Mandrake was last - I found in the past that mandrake is good at detecting OS,s and configuring them in lilo. This time detected but used mandrakes linuz initrd. All examples refer to my setup. This just show the drive setup. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hde1 * 1 101 811251 6 FAT16 - Dos /dev/hde2 102 2494 19221772+ 5 Extended /dev/hde5 102 1261 9317668+ 83 Linux --Redhat8.0 /dev/hde6 1262 1362 811251 82 Linux swap -for both /dev/hde7 1363 2494 9092758+ 83 Linux --Mandrake9.1 What is importend for this to work is the following after all installs done.. 1. With Mandrake loaded.(your last installation) 2. Su in console. 3. mkdir /mnt/redhat. 4. mount -t ext3 /dev/hde /mnt/redhat - THIS IS VERY IMPORTEND otherwise it will just NOT work. If redhat is not mounted by fstab (I dont do - only on console when needed) If you should run lilo -v on another day - repeat 4. 5. cd /etc 6. gedit lilo.conf 7. add the lines as below and save. 8. lilo -v. ( MBR ). 9. What is importend add /mnt/redhat to image and initrd - if you leave it out at initrd -- command lilo -v will complain : fatal: no such file or directory. After a lot of grief I realized this. snip image=/mnt/redhat/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 label=Redhat root=/dev/hde5 initrd=/mnt/redhat/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8.img read-only Enjoy Johan May this be a good day for learning Thanks, I understand this completely. You are installing 3 quite different OS's on one or more hard drive, fine. But what if your installing, W2k, M9.1 , and another M9.1 on the same hard drive. The second M9.1 to be used purely for updating with latest cooker updates. How do you do that ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DVD still not working (Mandrake 9.1) : dmesg
Hi Looks I am getting closer. dmesg complains a lot about the DVD drive. I have attached the output from dmesg at the bottom. I can play Audio CDs and can also rip through grip in this drive. Also I can play DVDs in this drive from windows. any ideas greatly appreciated. -Pradeep MSDOS FS: IO charset iso8859-15 hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: command error: error=0x54 end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 FAT: unable to read boot sector FAT: freeing iocharset=iso8859-15 EXT2-fs: Unrecognized mount option umask UDF-fs DEBUG lowlevel.c:57:udf_get_last_session: XA disk: no, vol_desc_start=32 UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:1426:udf_read_super: Multi-session=0 UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:415:udf_vrs: Starting at sector 16 (2048 byte sectors) hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: command error: error=0x54 end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 64 UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:1162:udf_check_valid: Failed to read byte 32768. Assuming open disc. Skipping validity check hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: command error: error=0x54 end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 1339176 . . . hdc: command error: error=0x54 end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 30 hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: command error: error=0x54 end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 31 cdrom: open failed. sr0: CDROM not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. sr0: CDROM not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. cdrom: open failed. cdrom: open failed. cdrom: open failed. UDP: bad checksum. From 200.171.144.216:1030 to 64.175.69.200:137 ulen 58 Royke K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem maybe in your DVD drive , the error message complain about DVD encription libdvdread: Could not open device with libdvdcss. What is the DVD region code you want to play, for Mplayer I think should play all kind of region with no problem. Check your DVD drive, because if you use it in Windowz , it will lock the region code after 4 times change playing 4 different kind of region code of DVD Movie. Maybe I,m wrong too... CMIIW regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 16 June 2003 11:00 pm, Pradeep Sethi wrote: Hi, I am still not able to play DVDs. I can play audio CDs / VCDs in that drive, work fine. but get error, while playing DVD. when I try to play DVD through mplayer GUI, click on open Disc, it shows reading the DVD for 5-6 seconds (light blinking), then gives error 'Can't play /dev/dvd'. Pradep, I've not been following this thread so if I repeat something already asked I apologize. Did you do (as root) a ln -s /dev/devicename /dev/dvd? In my case, since I use SCSI it would be: ln -s /dev/scd0 /dev/dvd on an IDE system, it would look something like: ln -s /dev/hdb (or hdc or hdd) /dev/dvd Also, did you add your user to the cdrom or cdwriter group(s)? One more thing, what about permissions? Here I had to do a: chmod a+r /mnt/cdrom chmod a+rx /dev/scd0 (that would be hdb, hdc, or hdd on IDE). when I do ln -l /dev/dvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] psethi]# ls -l /dev/dvd lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 30 Jun 17 07:36 /dev/dvd - ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd I would guess, this config is correct, as I can play audio CDs and VCDs in this drive, works fine. Done : [EMAIL PROTECTED] psethi]# chmod a+r /mnt/cdrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] psethi]# chmod a+rx /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd Then I try gmplayer, still getting the same error :( Output : - Playing /dev/dvd libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.6 for DVD access libdvdread: Could not open device with libdvdcss. libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd - pls help. Thanks in Advance Pradeep __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] RAID slot = IDE
A new problem. Asus A7V333 motherboard with RAID disabled - Promise controller. Only ide0 and ide1 visible to the BIOS. I need to plug in an old IDE drive in ide2 or ide3. I assume that RAID has to be enabled for the BIOS (and Linux) to see these slots, but I do not want to use RAID. Just want to have a third IDE slot. The manual only talks about setup for RAID proper and all the discussions on the net seem to assume that people will always want RAID 0, 1 or whatever. First, is it possible to bypass the RAID setting, and second, will changing the jumper wipe or damage the data in any way, on either ide0 (hda) or ide2 (hdc)? -- Len Lawrence -- The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. -- Franklin P. Jones -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GDM and other window managers
Todd is quite correct in the procedure below. But if you are installing a Window Manager from the Mandrake CDs (or contrib) then it is not necessary. The 'post install' script contained within the RPM will do this for you. So to get for example enlightenment in the list of Window Managers. All you need do is urpmi enlightenment derek On Thursday 26 Jun 2003 4:58 am, Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:10:01 -0400 MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I go about adding another window manager entry in the GDM? Cory, Using XFce4 as an example 1. Create a startup script--like what you may have used for .xsession or .xinitrc--as /usr/bin/startxfce4 (needs to be executable) 2. Create a file /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19XFce4 (1-18 are reserved by Mandrake; start with 19 and keep going up if need be) containing: NAME=XFce4 ICON=xfce4.png EXEC=/usr/bin/startxfce4 DESC=The bleeding edge SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/startxfce4 3. Edit /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and add XFce4 to the list of SessionTypes. This is case-sensitive and needs to be the same as NAME above. Step 3 may or may not be necessary; I found I had to do it to get it working with KDM. I have done this with fluxbox, pekwm, xfce4, and oroborus without any problems. Todd -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Install results vary
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 11:22 pm, Roland Hughes wrote: I have done 3-4 install's and everyone was different. I think mandrake is becoming like windows ( I am joking!). Roly On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 20:03, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 23 June 2003 10:30 pm, Allan wrote: Hi, Does anyone know why Mandrake 9.1 seems to come up with different results each time I install it? I installed it twice on my machine and another time on a friend's machine. On my system the end result was different each time, with minor differences showing up in KDE. (I've since switched to Window Maker and love it.) However, the WindowMaker default setup varies between users added on the same system. For instance, some users by default had the wmCalClock dockapp and others didn't, some have an extra WPrefs dock icon, etc. Also, I wanted to help my friend get started with Linux, but when we were installing it, it didn't show a lot of packages to select from. In particular, I wanted to install Window Maker and Aterm. Neither showed up in the package selection screen during initial installation or afterwards with rpmdrake. I thought it might be because my friend has an older machine (~400 MHz CPU, 64MB RAM, etc.), but KDE and Gnome installed okay so I don't think it's the hardware support that's lacking. IceWM installed successfully, but it still runs slower than Win98 on the same computer (dual boot). Anyone know why the install is different each time? How can I get WindowMaker onto my friend's computer? Why would IceWM run slower than Win98? (Sorry for so many questions, but I felt they're all related somewhat.) Thanks, Allan I often wonder the same thing. I just had to do a minor reinstall on the machine that would not play xmms. Guess what, it now plays. I choose all the same packages and input the answers on the setup and yet now it works when before it didn't. Oh, well. Mysteries are for solving. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ya know, it occurred to me that there was a difference this time. I did not install alsa and the alsamixer-gui. My CDROM works with xmms now. I had those loaded before and also had the alsa plugin installed for xmms but it wouldn't play using the alsa sound or OSS sound. Now it works with OSS just fine.: -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Drive points / and /home (resize existing MDK partitions?)
On June 25, 2003 03:16 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:14:25 -0400 when you install something, ie. through rpm, you are installing to the system dir, or /. Thats what i though, so for me /home doesent need to be that big. Ya, yer gonna need more space. You have a couple of options beside reinstalling I probably will end up reinstalling, When i do will i have to worry about MBR problems or will lilo take care of it for me. I dont want to loose access to XP. I just dont have enough cash for a new slave drive yet. My advice, get rid of XP, use the space for something safer, stabler, more useful, etc. , but then I am a zealot. :) The only reason i keep windows is for work, access and filemaker database and my old scanner is not supported, well its not old theres just no linux drivers for it. Regards, Dan Gordon -- Wed Jun 25 20:58:07 EDT 2003 20:58:07 up 8:55, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.04, 0.01 Ships are safe in harbor, but they were never meant to stay there. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kvirc
Dan Gordon wrote: On June 25, 2003 12:27 am, Barry Premeaux wrote: Check this link out. http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=Kvircsubmit=Sea rch+... I tryed some of these and they wanted to remove a lot of kde stuff and window managers and andyikes. Some of the newer Mandrake versions are Beta, but they may be worth a try. Regards, Dan Gordon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com The only other thing I can think of would be looking in the Mandrake Software links on http://www.pclinuxonline.com I'm sorry I haven't been of any real help. Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kvirc
On June 25, 2003 03:10 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:16:56 -0400 Then all of your sources are not configured. I ran urpmi kvirc and it looks like it was intalled from either main or contrib. Will try it again. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/cvs$rpm -q kvirc kvirc-3.0.0-0.beta1.5mdk Ah thats beta one, beta two has been out for a few months now. what version of mandrake and kde are you running? Mandrake 9.1 KDE 3.1 if all else fails, use xchat, it's a beaut, and as far as I'm concerned, anything that begins with a k is to be avoided. I use xchat and its not to bad, i remeber using kvirc 2.11 in KDE 2 and really liked it but i think they are bloating the new version of kvirc with junk but im waiting to see what the final looks like anyway. I need to learn text based clients though, but finding the time anymore is brutal. -- Wed Jun 25 21:09:35 EDT 2003 21:09:35 up 9:07, 3 users, load average: 0.15, 0.07, 0.01 Rudeness is a weak man's imitation of strength. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Multiboot on same drive
Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi to John Richard Smith , May the following be of assistance - it is part of a previous message I posted.. This is more detailed than the one posted earlier today - use them both.. snip Something else I would like to point out - I used Mandrake9.1 install partitioning to do the disk - when it reached apps to install I reset the PC. I prefer mandrake partitioninig - more friendly for me. This is for information only to someone who may need it. Have installed 3 OS's on one disk - see below I installed dos - then - redhat - then - mandrake. Do not forget make boot disks. They do not see each other or use each others partitions unless mounted. When I installed redhat I let it install lilo - when you install mandrake it will owerwrite the MBR with its version and this way you can test out redhat before you continue. Mandrake was last - I found in the past that mandrake is good at detecting OS,s and configuring them in lilo. This time detected but used mandrakes linuz initrd. All examples refer to my setup. This just show the drive setup. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hde1 * 1 101 811251 6 FAT16 - Dos /dev/hde2 102 2494 19221772+ 5 Extended /dev/hde5 102 1261 9317668+ 83 Linux --Redhat8.0 /dev/hde6 1262 1362 811251 82 Linux swap -for both /dev/hde7 1363 2494 9092758+ 83 Linux --Mandrake9.1 What is importend for this to work is the following after all installs done.. 1. With Mandrake loaded.(your last installation) 2. Su in console. 3. mkdir /mnt/redhat. 4. mount -t ext3 /dev/hde /mnt/redhat - THIS IS VERY IMPORTEND otherwise it will just NOT work. If redhat is not mounted by fstab (I dont do - only on console when needed) If you should run lilo -v on another day - repeat 4. 5. cd /etc 6. gedit lilo.conf 7. add the lines as below and save. 8. lilo -v. ( MBR ). 9. What is importend add /mnt/redhat to image and initrd - if you leave it out at initrd -- command lilo -v will complain : fatal: no such file or directory. After a lot of grief I realized this. snip image=/mnt/redhat/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 label=Redhat root=/dev/hde5 initrd=/mnt/redhat/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8.img read-only Enjoy Johan As I said, this is a 3 different OS install, ie dos, redhat,mandrake. What if you want W2000 , M9.1 and again M9.1. I still think there are issues to sort out. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting Mandrake's attention
At 11:24 AM 6/25/2003 -0700, you wrote: Owen Berio wrote: At 09:23 AM 6/25/2003 -0700, Alan Shoemaker wrote: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/contact/address I used the other number. The dates called are today, yesterday (Tue.). Mon. and I may have called last Thur. I also sent two e-miles. I will try the delivery issues number *** it's the one labled 'delivery issues'. what date did you leave the message? did you also leave an invoice number (helpful)? i'm going to report this. -- Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GDM and other window managers
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:10:01 -0400 MEISCH,CORY (HP-Vancouver,ex1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I go about adding another window manager entry in the GDM? Cory, Using XFce4 as an example 1. Create a startup script--like what you may have used for .xsession or .xinitrc--as /usr/bin/startxfce4 (needs to be executable) 2. Create a file /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19XFce4 (1-18 are reserved by Mandrake; start with 19 and keep going up if need be) containing: NAME=XFce4 ICON=xfce4.png EXEC=/usr/bin/startxfce4 DESC=The bleeding edge SCRIPT: exec /usr/bin/startxfce4 3. Edit /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and add XFce4 to the list of SessionTypes. This is case-sensitive and needs to be the same as NAME above. Step 3 may or may not be necessary; I found I had to do it to get it working with KDM. I have done this with fluxbox, pekwm, xfce4, and oroborus without any problems. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!
On June 25, 2003 11:00 am, Inhabitant of Zion did come from Mt Siani and speak: I was surprised that Gentoo is so popular. I've never used it myself and never had anybody ever recommend it to me either. John I'm surprise too. Also surprised the Debian is as popular as it seems. Unless Gentoo and Debian geeks are even more vociferous than the rest of us. As for the Red Hat-SuSE-Mandrake numbers they are about what I expected them to be. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Printer problem
I'm using Mandrake 9.1 with KDE 3.1. Printer is an Epson Stylus Color 400. Using OpenOffice 1.0.2. Printed for the very first time in Linux. Set off the print job, and the printer immediately started to print a load of rubbish - symbols , blamk pages . And it won't stop - except when I push the off button. If I turn it back on it just starts of again. I have tried every thing to stop it. Closed OpenOffice. Shut down and restarted - when I restart the printing begins at the login screen. I have gone into Windows in between Linux sessions and the printer is fine there. Is there a cure to this? Help. Please. Cheers, Chris K Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kernel Intel E7205 support
Hi All, I've been lurking here for a couple of weeks, amazed by the fact that you all seem so willing to help the newbie, such a refreshing change after trying to run slackware for a couple of years and never daring to post to the slackware forums. I'm not a total noob - for instance, i have a certain amount of experience in configuring kernels under slackware. However, i'm a complete newbie when it comes to the mandrake way, and, as a result of various unforseen circumstances, i'm using a new box which has hardware which is somewhat more cutting edge than i'd like. Perhaps it would be best if I explained what i would like to do. I'm not expecting to be spoonfed - but i would appreciate pointers to the relevant docs, etc. I have an Asus P4G8X motherboard which has an agp slot which seems to be as yet unsupported by the mandrake stock kernels. I've done a bit of googling and it seems that I may have the option to use a patched kernel, or an experimental or 2.5.x kernel, in order to gain support for the Intel E7205 chipset which is a feature of my motherboard. I have several questions in relation to this possibility' Can i use the relevant kernel source and build myself a kernel, or will i have problems with incompatibilities with libs, etc? I don't understand the mandrake boot process. What is the function of kernel.h in \boot? Can i dispense with initrd.img? I have minimal desktop style setup. I have no network [as yet], and don't use usb, firewire, scsi, or anything other than plain old ide disks and modem, audigy and NVidia. If i rename /lib/modules, and rename existing /boot elements [and run /sbin/lilo] ... ... and *set* my kernel version, will it all play out nicely with a new stanza in lilo.config? should i *install* the new kernel, using the mandrake installer? Is there a RPM that will do this? Will everything then be taken care of? HELP??? hoping to understand, and grateful for any assistance ... Janet Blankfield The ideal love affair is one conducted by post. JBS - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... life's a beach ... - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!
They did.. its classed as none :-) rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carroll Grigsby Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 1:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake! On Wednesday 25 June 2003 12:03 pm, Miark wrote: Let Novell know who ya love :-) http://www.novell.com/linux/ See the poll in the right-most column. Miark Miark: Done. Gee, I wonder why they didn't have SC0/Caldera's Linux listed. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS
John Richard Smith wrote: Charles Roberts wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: I'm thinking about dual booting the same OS but updating the second to test. I'm not sure of all the implications. I have a /boot partition. That means I will be overwriting the first kernel init etc, with the same, cannot think that is likely to be any problem. Lilo will still be in the MBR, but it will have the script from second install, because there is no option available these days to skip lilo install.Developers please note. Second install will use it's own /etc/lilo.conf file. but this is likely to be the naff OS , especially if it goes wrong with the updates. Not, to my mind, a satisfactory state of affairs. I want to be booting everything from the first OS /etc/lilo.conf. Question is how to do that. F1-rescue - install new bootloader , but it's going to have two identicle OS's each with it's own /etc/lilo.conf how will it know which to choose ? In otherwords how do I tell it which OS /etc/lilo.conf script it's to use ? each OS will have it's seperate partition, lets say for arguements sake, M9.1 OS1 on /hda7 M9.1 OS2 on /hda6 can I pass some arguement in the F1 -rescue - install new boot loader , to tell it which partition to look for an /etc/lilo.conf ? Does say, F1 - rescue /dev/hda7 make anything useful happen to where it reads /etc/lilo.conf ? I bet there is a way round this anyone ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hi John; Not sure if I understand all you have said! But to boot two OS: 1st OS install lilo in MBR 2nd OS install lilo in the 2nd OS's hard disk partition. like this root=hda5, boot=hda5 Change hda5 to where ever you installed the 2nd OS Add an 'other' line in the 1st OS lilo to point to the 2nd OS. like this: other=/dev/hda5 label=Debian or whatever In the 2nd OS lilo; boot=/dev/hda5 root=/dev/hda5 everthing else normal Now when you boot, select 'Debian' which will take you to the 2nd OS lilo. then select what you want from the 2nd Os. If you want I will send you my 2 lilo.conf's. HTH Charles So if I've understood you correctly, in effect you're chainloading two lilo's , one stored in the MBR(to work with windblows , chainloader fashion)and booting M9.1 OS1 from it's /etc/lilo.conf and a second lilo in the M9.1 OS2 situated in it's / partition,it seems a mite complicated. In addition I'm not too sure how you get the second OS install to put the second lilo in it's / partiton, when the installer will be conscious of the windblows/OS1 lilo MBR presence and wanting to shove lilo in the MBR again. currently I have, /dev/hda1 W2000 /dev/hda7 M9.1 (straight install, no updates) /dev/hda6 M9.0 (to be replaced with M9.1 , together with cooker updates) At the moment so long as I have two Different linux OS's I can switch which OS /etc/lilo.conf file is read and run at boot time, by replacing the lilo in the MBR with either F1 - rescue - install bootloader from either CD1 of each OS. The problem here is that I have two identicle OS's and I'm affraid that having just the one CD1 to do the F1 - rescue - install bootloader it will not know which /etc/lilo.conf to run at boot time. This is because each OS has it's own /etc/lilo.conf in the relevant / partition. Maybe it doesn't matter so long as each /etc/lilo.conf is constructed to boot either OS, so that whichever /etc/lilo.conf it chooses to run , it will still have enough script to boot either OS.Still I'd like to be a mite more precise about it. Maybe you are right though. Having two Identicle OS means having to lilo's to boot with. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Yes. This way uses 2 lilo.conf. One in the MBR (by having 'boot=/dev/hda' in the 1st OS lilo.conf, and the other lilo.conf goes in /dev/hda9 (by having 'boot=/dev/hda9' in the 2nd OS lilo.conf. If you would like to be more precise about it, read 'man lilo.conf'. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kvirc
On June 25, 2003 11:16 am, Dan Gordon did speak: On June 25, 2003 01:31 pm, JoeHill wrote: 1. Go here and configure all your souces: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php 2. then as root, urpmi kvirc Did this and output was no package named kvirc lol i dont think someone wants me in irc rofl Regards, Dan Gordon It's in the club contribs, actually. And I wouldn't bother. The beta is buggier than an ant hill. About half the basic functions don't work or don't work at all well. Hell, you can't even type /me message or /onotice messge without it being send out in plain text. And don't even try to DCC. As near as I can figure, KVirc is as near a dead issue as you can get. The 2.x versions, which worked like a hot damn, haven't been upgraded in about 2 years and the beta 3.x doesn't seem to have been updated in months. They have a pretty new web site though! ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake juice, anyone?
that next version of fbpanel looks really sweet, thanks fer turnin me onto that, sometimes nice to have. Yeah, seeing the list at the bottom keeps me informed about my place in the universe.. heh, ya, that's about all i use it for...and the clock... Before i got it, i was using gkrellm's clock, but now that yo mention it, i'm back to the bottom right... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] network problem - help
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 12:34, Roland Hughes wrote: I have finally had the chance to get off of dial up and on to a shared dsl. My problem is I cannot get the Internet connection to switch from modem to eth0. The nic is up and connected but when I bring up the mandrake control center and go to networking it only shows the modem as the connection and no matter how many times I run the wizard it will not change. Any help for a old fart. Roly I think we all agreed that using the MCC for your connection was a VERY BAD idea (gets really flaky). BEST bet is to make direct modifications to the network scripts located in the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts directory - and to make sure that your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf are setup properly... Once you've modified those scripts, do a: service network restart ...and all should be well... -- Thu Jun 26 21:25:00 EST 2003 21:25:00 up 1 day, 21:11, 3 users, load average: 0.84, 1.03, 1.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The world is coming to an end--save your buffers! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 09:38, Guilherme Cirne wrote: Hi all, I have a font problem in java apps running under ML 9.1 which is very hard to explain so I have screenshot showing exactly what I mean. I can send this to anyone who is willing to help. Basically what happens is this. The height of the default java font (Dialog) is not being calculated correctly under ML 9.1. So all components, like buttons, are much higher than they should be. I know that Dialog is just a link which by default points to Lucida Sans and this can be changed in the jre font.properties file. But the strange thing is that if the font of a particular component is set to Lucida Sans directly then the height is calculated correctly and the component looks like it should. So the problem isn't the Lucida Sans font. This can be seen clearly on the screenshot which I made. This only happens on ML 9.1. On 9.0 it works as it should. I have also tried different jre's like Blackdown's 1.4.1 and Sun's 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 beta and they all have this problem. So this is a ML 9.1 specific issue. I have also performed various installations of ML 9.1 on different machines and the results are the same. So if anybody has seen this and can help me I would be very grateful. And don't forget, I can send anyone a screenshot which makes it much clearer to see the problem. TIA, You might try running the Java IDE under a different window manager or desktop (Gnome, WindowMaker, XFCE, Enlightenment, etc) to see if the problem persists across those as well - it could merely be a font problem in the window manager/desktop you're currently using... -- Thu Jun 26 21:15:01 EST 2003 21:15:01 up 1 day, 21:01, 2 users, load average: 1.23, 1.07, 1.02 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Burns: Good Lord, Smithers! You look atrocious. I thought I told you to take a vacation. Homer: Uh, Smithers already left, sir. I'm his replacement, Homer Simpson. Homer the Smithers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAID slot = IDE
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 06:26 pm, Len Lawrence wrote: A new problem. Asus A7V333 motherboard with RAID disabled - Promise controller. Only ide0 and ide1 visible to the BIOS. I need to plug in an old IDE drive in ide2 or ide3. I assume that RAID has to be enabled for the BIOS (and Linux) to see these slots, but I do not want to use RAID. Just want to have a third IDE slot. The manual only talks about setup for RAID proper and all the discussions on the net seem to assume that people will always want RAID 0, 1 or whatever. First, is it possible to bypass the RAID setting, and second, will changing the jumper wipe or damage the data in any way, on either ide0 (hda) or ide2 (hdc)? Most likely you don't have to do anything to use those channels as standard IDE devices. You don't say whether you have a highpoint of promise solution, but I use both my hard drives on a Highpoint controller, and the drives are autodetected on each boot and the kernel finds and uses the devices no problem. I had the same experience with a promise fasttrack pci card version. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KEditBookmarks -- Really S-l-o-w!
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 06:20 pm, Stephen Kuhn graced me with: On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 00:19, Technoslick wrote: Stephen! That's not fair! You covered all your bases with that shotgun approach. ;0) (Solly Cholly) I don't doubt all those contribute to my problem. However, I was wondering about the way KDE stores and indexes (if any) the bookmarks. Doesn't it just suck stuff from say, a Galeon .XBEL and convert it into a Konqueror formatted HTML page? I'm trying to figure out now exactly how indexing is done, but not getting very far... It's external to the actual *.xml file. I do know, though, that it's stored in ~/home/usernamegoeshere/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/bookmarks.xml ...so wouldn't that really have to do with parsing a file of large size - albeit an XML, but that would/SHOULD be a function of how Konqueror parses the file...ya? I haven't had the time to sort through all the imported links, but many were three levels down, and therefore are up to four levels down now. Maybe, KDE has a problem working with that kind of hierarchy? It's not really a hierarchy - in a static sense - it's a hierarchy inside of the XML document, though...but overall, it's a static document; Konqueror would be tripping the light fantastic trying to sort through it and present folders as it were, along with their contents... I looked at the bookmarks.xml in a text editor. It appears to keep only the URL info here. Folder info must be elsewhere; one of the other KDE config files. This might be some of the reason it's so slow with a large link file that has to be checked and matched to a folder file everytime a chnage is made or a link is added. Parsing the XML file is obviously taking some time. I have to sort though all these links, anyway. Many are now dead. As I reorganize them, dropping the dead and no longer intersting ones, I hope to find a workable compromise. Check Status: All ...that SHOULD find all yer dead links - but from what I understand already, it would take a fair long while, ay? Oye! I'd want to start the process with the intent of going out shopping with the wife. You know how long THAT kind of a trip would take. ;0] T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] vfat partition permission in msec3
I've got my box running as a webserver and the security level setting to Higher. Unless I'm root, I can't even read some of my fat mounts that I'd like to use for sharing. So, after checking out fstab/mtab, I'm at a loss as to what I need to do. Anyone have some advice? TIA, -Russ- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KEditBookmarks -- Really S-l-o-w!
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 23:12, Technoslick wrote: I looked at the bookmarks.xml in a text editor. It appears to keep only the URL info here. Folder info must be elsewhere; one of the other KDE config files. Um...as I'm looking at the bookmarks.xml, I clearly see tags: folder /folder ...and they appear to correspond to folders I've created in my Galeon bookmarks file...and for all that I've sticky-beaked through here, there aren't any other references to indexed data structures other than this lonely bookmarks.xml... Parsing the XML file is obviously taking some time. Well, this is more than true - if it's a single text file (in XML format) and it has several thousand entries, it's not only going to parse it as XML but then translate it into HTML for usage... Oye! I'd want to start the process with the intent of going out shopping with the wife. You know how long THAT kind of a trip would take. ;0] Undue punishment and torture of yourself is not a good thing. Best to stay at home and manually edit the file. Much much more fun than shopping with a woman. -- Thu Jun 26 23:20:00 EST 2003 23:20:00 up 1 day, 23:06, 3 users, load average: 1.04, 1.06, 1.05 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: that there is no man really clever who has not found that he is stupid. -- Gilbert K. Chesterson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake juice, anyone?
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:19:32 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Before i got it, i was using gkrellm's clock, but now that yo mention it, i'm back to the bottom right... I like xclock a lot. I wish I could find a pager that works with Pek, none of them show the workspaces, then I would ditch fbpanel... -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tty: how can bash tell which one you logged into?
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:53:57 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: If i ctrl-alt-F* to different tty's, is there any way to tell, in a bash script, which one i logged into? I am thinking of having a default login, but run different startups, for example, if i log into tty2, 3, etc. even better: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/c203.html you would probably want to assign a variable and have it filled by the output of a command that would tell you what tty you are in. is there such a command? or could you have a custom bash prompt for each tty instead? -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printer problem
On Friday 27 Jun 2003 3:54 am, Chris Knewstubb wrote: I'm using Mandrake 9.1 with KDE 3.1. Printer is an Epson Stylus Color 400. Using OpenOffice 1.0.2. Printed for the very first time in Linux. Set off the print job, and the printer immediately started to print a load of rubbish - symbols , blamk pages . And it won't stop - except when I push the off button. If I turn it back on it just starts of again. I have tried every thing to stop it. Closed OpenOffice. Shut down and restarted - when I restart the printing begins at the login screen. I have gone into Windows in between Linux sessions and the printer is fine there. Is there a cure to this? Help. Please. Cheers, Chris K There is an application called 'kjobviewer' which will allow you to cancel that print job. There is not a menu entry for it, so either start it from a terminal or use menudrake to create a menu entry. As for the printer itself. Is it just OpenOffice with the problem or does it print garbage in all apps? And have you tried rerunning printerdrake to check the printer configuration? derek BTW: Could you remove the Reply To: setting in your mozilla mail please? It is not necessary unless you want to receive emails on a different account to the one you send from. When used with a mailing list it makes responses go straight to you and not the list. -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!
RANT Mandrake IS popular. Don't base your opinion on how popular Mandrake upon a Novell survey. Geeze before yesturday I don't think I've ever been to Novell's site. No reason to go. How many MDK'ers arn't voting because THEY never go to Novells site and have no idea there's a poll being taken? In fact if I wasn't on this list I would not have known to vote. How many MDKers are not on this list and so don't know to go to Novells site to vote? I know of the MDKers where I work I'm the only one on this list. Maybe the Gentoo folks went out of their way to inform the 20 or so Gentoo users to all go vote. (OK, I'm sure theres more than 20) There are alot more MDKers than puny Novell's site says. phew! Scott /RANT -Original Message- From: John Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake! On June 25, 2003 11:00 am, Inhabitant of Zion did come from Mt Siani and speak: I was surprised that Gentoo is so popular. I've never used it myself and never had anybody ever recommend it to me either. John I'm surprise too. Also surprised the Debian is as popular as it seems. Unless Gentoo and Debian geeks are even more vociferous than the rest of us. As for the Red Hat-SuSE-Mandrake numbers they are about what I expected them to be. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] How to run script on KDE start?
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 23:24, Burrows, Scott wrote: Stephen, I don't seem to have an autostart under /yourname/Destktop/ I do have an autostart under /home/yourname/.kde/Autostart Is that what you meant? Scott Yeppers. -- Thu Jun 26 23:35:00 EST 2003 23:35:00 up 1 day, 23:21, 2 users, load average: 0.94, 1.01, 1.01 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A friend of mine is into Voodoo Acupuncture. You don't have to go. You'll just be walking down the street and... Ooohh, that's much better. -- Steven Wright Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] How to run script on KDE start?
Stephen, I don't seem to have an autostart under /yourname/Destktop/ I do have an autostart under /home/yourname/.kde/Autostart Is that what you meant? Scott -Original Message- From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:40 PM To: newb-mdk Subject: Re: [newbie] How to run script on KDE start? On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 05:28, Tango Echo wrote: Hi all, I have a MDK 9.1 KDE box that I would like to run a bash script on start. Becuase the script in turn plays sound files, I would like it to run at the very end of the KDE start up sequence or as soon as KDE is up and running. TIA! Create a link to the script and put it in your ~/home/yournamehere/Desktop/Autostart folder. -- Thu Jun 26 08:35:01 EST 2003 08:35:01 up 1 day, 8:21, 2 users, load average: 0.85, 0.57, 0.47 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * But you who live on dreams, you are better pleased with the sophistical reasoning and frauds of talkers about great and uncertain matters than those who speak of certain and natural matters, not of such lofty nature. -- Leonardo Da Vinci, The Codex on the Flight of Birds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] vfat partition permission in msec3
On Thursday 26 Jun 2003 2:32 pm, Russ Rollins wrote: I've got my box running as a webserver and the security level setting to Higher. Unless I'm root, I can't even read some of my fat mounts that I'd like to use for sharing. So, after checking out fstab/mtab, I'm at a loss as to what I need to do. Anyone have some advice? TIA, -Russ- The option 'umask=0' in your fstab entries will normally make your vfat partitions world writable. But with 'Higher' security msec may be overriding this. You could customise your msec entries in /etc/security/msec/perm.local The file format is :- /boot/ root.root 755 see http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php derek (And remove the Reply To: entry in your Evolution config please.) -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 06:41, Burrows, Scott wrote: RANT Mandrake IS popular. Don't base your opinion on how popular Mandrake upon a Novell survey. Geeze before yesturday I don't think I've ever been to Novell's site. No reason to go. How many MDK'ers arn't voting because THEY never go to Novells site and have no idea there's a poll being taken? In fact if I wasn't on this list I would not have known to vote. How many MDKers are not on this list and so don't know to go to Novells site to vote? I know of the MDKers where I work I'm the only one on this list. Maybe the Gentoo folks went out of their way to inform the 20 or so Gentoo users to all go vote. (OK, I'm sure theres more than 20) There are alot more MDKers than puny Novell's site says. phew! Scott /RANT -Original Message- From: John Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake! On June 25, 2003 11:00 am, Inhabitant of Zion did come from Mt Siani and speak: I was surprised that Gentoo is so popular. I've never used it myself and never had anybody ever recommend it to me either. John I'm surprise too. Also surprised the Debian is as popular as it seems. Unless Gentoo and Debian geeks are even more vociferous than the rest of us. As for the Red Hat-SuSE-Mandrake numbers they are about what I expected them to be. ttfn JohnWhats Gentoo :- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KEditBookmarks -- Really S-l-o-w!
On Thursday 26 June 2003 09:25 am, Stephen Kuhn graced me with: On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 23:12, Technoslick wrote: I looked at the bookmarks.xml in a text editor. It appears to keep only the URL info here. Folder info must be elsewhere; one of the other KDE config files. Um...as I'm looking at the bookmarks.xml, I clearly see tags: folder /folder ...and they appear to correspond to folders I've created in my Galeon bookmarks file...and for all that I've sticky-beaked through here, there aren't any other references to indexed data structures other than this lonely bookmarks.xml... Yeah, you're right. I took only a few moments to look at the file and while it stared at me straight in the face, I just didn't see it. Must be all the stuff I have going on here...I need a memory upgrade as well as a new processor... Parsing the XML file is obviously taking some time. Well, this is more than true - if it's a single text file (in XML format) and it has several thousand entries, it's not only going to parse it as XML but then translate it into HTML for usage... Yep. Reasonable. Oye! I'd want to start the process with the intent of going out shopping with the wife. You know how long THAT kind of a trip would take. ;0] Undue punishment and torture of yourself is not a good thing. Best to stay at home and manually edit the file. Much much more fun than shopping with a woman. Spoken from a man with true experience. I bow to your wisdom. Here's what I have done thus far... I saved my Konqueror bookmarks as HTML to use in Mozilla. Then imported them into Mozilla. The import was fast and without a hitch. I'm in the process of cleaning out the deadwood and uninteresting links. While not speedy by any stretch of the imagination, very acceptable...much faster and smoother than in Konqueror. I'll finish my clean-up work in Mozilla, then spend more time in this browser for now. An interesting observation in Konqueror: Cutting/Pasting of more than one bookmark at a time within KEditBookmarks causes one to show-up as a blank link. Preliminary guess it that they have been foreign language links that show undefinable characters or those in other than English. What doesn't make sense is that it bookmarks them fine from the Web site. I'm trying to keep things simple right now, as I learn to get around Linux, but it looks like no one app group can handle all my needs within the parameters of my equipment. Einstein's theories apparently work in the Link Universe, as well. sigh Thanks for your help, Stephen. And for the sage advice! ;0) T Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake juice, anyone?
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:38:20 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I find the Rox Pager works real nice with pekwm, but then I like Rox ;-) ya but will the rox pager work without using the panel? -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake juice, anyone?
On Thursday 26 Jun 2003 2:12 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 21:19:32 -0700 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Before i got it, i was using gkrellm's clock, but now that yo mention it, i'm back to the bottom right... I like xclock a lot. I wish I could find a pager that works with Pek, none of them show the workspaces, then I would ditch fbpanel... I find the Rox Pager works real nice with pekwm, but then I like Rox ;-) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Opera
Hi Rikona, There is a new version of Opera it's on their Website,and the Rpm's are there.It installed with no problems,and ended up in the correct short cut folder on the start up in both KDE and Gnome. http://www.opera.com/products/user/index.dml?platform=linux .You need the QT Shared RedHat 8/SuSE 8.1/Mandrake 9. Cheers Drew - Original Message - From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:59 AM Subject: [newbie] Latest version of Opera/Mandrake? Hello, I seem to remember someone mentioning Opera version 7+, but the version in the Club is 6.12. Is there a newer rpm version available? -- Best regards, rikona mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 23:41, Burrows, Scott wrote: RANT Mandrake IS popular. I know of the MDKers where I work I'm the only one on this list. /RANT There are unbelievable amounts of linux users, let alone Mandrake users - but you have to figure that MAYBE 20% of them even participate in the email lists, votes, or what have you. Think about THIS for a second: IF every single linux user actually were tallied up, do you REALLY think that any of the statistics that are compiled by newsworthy sources would report Microsoft being 90% of the desktop market? I hardly would think so. -- Fri Jun 27 00:00:00 EST 2003 00:00:00 up 1 day, 23:46, 3 users, load average: 1.29, 1.15, 1.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Q: What's the difference between Bell Labs and the Boy Scouts of America? A: The Boy Scouts have adult supervision. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop?
John Wilson wrote: [snip] And yes, it would be wonderful if developers would stop those silly IE only tags out there. Or popups that say we only support Windows Media Player as if that's the be all and end all. So if the article accomplishes that it will be helpful. Then again, how many MSCE's read Business Week? How many MSCE's can read? :-) They don't need to - it's been point and click ever since NT came out. Though I hear the latest Windows server will have - gasp - a command line. That'll confuse a lot of people. Sir Robin -- Some guy breaking into a government computer system and wreaking havoc makes for a more interesting movie plot than some guy writing device drivers. It's hard to work in a good 10-minutes car chase scene with some guy who writes device drivers... - tjc, post to LWN Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Printer virus problem
No, of course I haven't got a virus, but someone on our LAN has, and it's printing garbage (probably its own code) to my Samba printer. One line, one page, so we've got through two reams of paper this week. Short of updating virus definitions and scanning all our Windows boxes (eventually necessary, but a big job, especially since our institution is not subscribed for virus definiton updates) is there a way I can block this? Sir Robin -- Some guy breaking into a government computer system and wreaking havoc makes for a more interesting movie plot than some guy writing device drivers. It's hard to work in a good 10-minutes car chase scene with some guy who writes device drivers... - tjc, post to LWN Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Vote for Mandrake!
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 23:41, Burrows, Scott wrote: RANT Mandrake IS popular. I know of the MDKers where I work I'm the only one on this list. /RANT There are unbelievable amounts of linux users, let alone Mandrake users - but you have to figure that MAYBE 20% of them even participate in the email lists, votes, or what have you. Think about THIS for a second: IF every single linux user actually were tallied up, do you REALLY think that any of the statistics that are compiled by newsworthy sources would report Microsoft being 90% of the desktop market? I hardly would think so. I wonder how they compile these statistics. It's quite possible that since my computer came with Windows 98 (first edition - aaargh!), I too am counted in with that supposed 90%. There's also the question of how you define desktop. My computer at work runs Mandrake, and we use it for Samba printing and FTP. Does that make it count towards the desktop statistics or the server statistics? The whole Desktop PC thing is an IBM/MS invention, from the days when they were still in bed together (OK, they might not have invented the actual word, but they spread the idea). We Linux users do not have Desktop PCs, we have _workstations_! Fear the penguin. Sir Robin -- Some guy breaking into a government computer system and wreaking havoc makes for a more interesting movie plot than some guy writing device drivers. It's hard to work in a good 10-minutes car chase scene with some guy who writes device drivers... - tjc, post to LWN Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] test
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake juice, anyone?
On Thursday 26 Jun 2003 3:18 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:38:20 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I find the Rox Pager works real nice with pekwm, but then I like Rox ;-) ya but will the rox pager work without using the panel? Yes It does in Pekwm (./Pager/AppRun ) But it does not work in IceWM No idea why. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Wireless confusion
I use linux in two different wireless networks. One of them has recently stopped providing functionality. Could anyone interpret this for me? [EMAIL PROTECTED] noah]# ifup eth1 Determining IP information for eth1... done. /sbin/ifup: line 433: 2563 Hangup /etc/init.d/tmdns reload /dev/null 21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] noah]# I would really like to know what my computer is telling me and if I can find out why this particular network doesn't let me on any more. I know it works with XP on mine and another person's computer but I'd rather diagnose it in Linux. Thanks alot! Noah Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS
Charles Roberts wrote: Yes. This way uses 2 lilo.conf. One in the MBR (by having 'boot=/dev/hda' in the 1st OS lilo.conf, and the other lilo.conf goes in /dev/hda9 (by having 'boot=/dev/hda9' in the 2nd OS lilo.conf. If you would like to be more precise about it, read 'man lilo.conf'. Charles Oh, yes , I've read that a few times before. Constructing the lilo.conf file is not the problem. I want a way that will work with a /boot partition and give me DUAL M9.1 choice, and be easy to install and configure. The question is this . Install 1, OS M9.1 on /dev/hda7 lilo in MBR.fine, this reads /etc/lilo.conf from partition/dev/hda7 Install 2, OS M9.1 on /dev/hda6 lilo still in MBR but overwrites previous LILO this will read which /etc/lilo.conf ? because now you have two /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda7, or /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda6, and what is more, if I want to make it read /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda7 how do I do that ? Is it possible ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] tty: how can bash tell which one you logged into?
btw, google.com/linux is your best freind! Yeah, i love google/linux! I just hadn't typed the right stuff in to lead me to http://www.linuxlookup.com/html/articles/custom-prompts.html Jeeze. You just type tty in at the prompt... [EMAIL PROTECTED] huff]$ tty /dev/vc/1 Believe it or not, i did look first before i asked... Thanks for the link, Joe! Now tty1 can be my login, startx, and start email tty. tty2 will just take me to the prompt. tty3... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Multiboot on same drive
Hi John, OK I do not no about w2k but I had win XP and MD8.0 run together for 6 months until the drive crashed - no fault of the OS's - after replacement I use them seperate. While it was working it worked fine. It was a cleaen drive to start - I used partition magic to partition the disk. Like.. hda1 - win xp hda5 - MD8.0 hda6 - swap Installed win xp first then MD8.0 This is to let linux detect OS's and config lilo and write to MBR What now happens is when pick win xp on GUI it start win xp loader and there you pick again if req. If you pick linux then it start. ** In your case lets asume clean drive. Ok you can partition as follow. hda1 - w2k hda2 - extended partition hda5 - linux flavour 1 hda6 - swap ( only one for both flavours they wont be running at the same time - mine works like that) hda7 - linux flavour 2.. Maybe a dos partition after hda2 for a transfer area between the OS's - linux can read vfat 16, 32 but i do not now other flavours and visa versa.. You need a common denominator to transfer stuf around - I use dos partition for that reason. If you do this then part no's change. * Again if it is a clean drive you can use linux to patition the drive as suggested - then install first flavour in EXPERT mode to HDA5 or 7 - (it does not really matter) - to prevent MD to write the MBR. Now install w2k on HDA1.(it will write to MBR) Then install flavour 2 to your open linux partition - now you may use auto install - you need to let it detect and config lilo and write MBR. Be sure to make boot disks. Now if all go to plan your last install wil be in charge of booting. Maybe you may need my example of lilo.conf to correct your config. If this is a LIVE disk you need someting like partition magic it works very nice BUT it failed me once. Maybe linux can partition live drive - I do not know. Then do as suggested and install. *** Now something interesting - I read it in a linux mag and tried it - it works. If you have a second drive - you can create there a partiton to put the swap or /home - and maybe more I only tried this. *** Ok if all this works you may access the other flavour from the live flavour by mounting it manually (would not advize to put it in fstab). What is importend here if you accessed the not live then you can not do like cd /boot it will revert to live one - you MUST do like cd /manx/root then it will move inside the not live flavour. Ok I have these rack and trays and seven HD's of diiferent makes and size. My Importent 2 drives I keep save - the rest I do experiment with. Trust the above will be of assistance. Feel free to ask if you need more info - it is difficult to know what you need. Enjoy Johan - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Multiboot on same drive Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi to John Richard Smith , snip Thanks, I understand this completely. You are installing 3 quite different OS's on one or more hard drive, fine. But what if your installing, W2k, M9.1 , and another M9.1 on the same hard drive. The second M9.1 to be used purely for updating with latest cooker updates. How do you do that ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS
When installing the second 9.1, don't install any boot loader. Then, reboot to your old linux, modify the lilo.conf and add the lines pointing to the second copy (don't forget to rerun lilo). Then reboot and select the second install and it should come up. Joeb ---Original Message--- From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/26/03 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS The question is this . Install 1, OS M9.1 on /dev/hda7 lilo in MBR.fine, this reads /etc/lilo.conf from partition/dev/hda7 Install 2, OS M9.1 on /dev/hda6 lilo still in MBR but overwrites previous LILO this will read which /etc/lilo.conf ? because now you have two /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda7, or /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda6, and what is more, if I want to make it read /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda7 how do I do that ? Is it possible ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS
John Richard Smith wrote: Charles Roberts wrote: Yes. This way uses 2 lilo.conf. One in the MBR (by having 'boot=/dev/hda' in the 1st OS lilo.conf, and the other lilo.conf goes in /dev/hda9 (by having 'boot=/dev/hda9' in the 2nd OS lilo.conf. If you would like to be more precise about it, read 'man lilo.conf'. Charles Oh, yes , I've read that a few times before. Constructing the lilo.conf file is not the problem. I want a way that will work with a /boot partition and give me DUAL M9.1 choice, and be easy to install and configure. The question is this . Install 1, OS M9.1 on /dev/hda7 lilo in MBR.fine, this reads /etc/lilo.conf from partition/dev/hda7 Install 2, OS M9.1 on /dev/hda6 lilo still in MBR but overwrites previous LILO this will read which /etc/lilo.conf ? because now you have two /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda7, or /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda6, and what is more, if I want to make it read /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda7 how do I do that ? Is it possible ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hi John, If I understand correctly, you are booted from /dev/hda6 and wish to execute lilo using the lilo.config file from /dev/hda7! Presumeably as if you were booted from /dev/hda7??? If so: from /dev/hda6; make a mount point in /mnt with this command: mkdir hda7 now mount hda7 thus: mount /dev/hda7 /mnt/hda7 now 'cd /mnt/hda7' now issue this command 'chroot /mnt/hda7 /bin/bash' This will make this vt ( this vt only) as if it were another OS at /mnt/hda7 (root starts at /mnt/hda7) 'edit' etc/lilo.conf (notice no '/' before etc). this will edit the lilo.conf for /dev/hda7. now execute 'lilo' and it will use lilo from /dev/hda7 the lilo.conf from /dev/hda7. Whatever you do in this vt, it will act like 'root' is anchored at /mnt/hda7. To get out of this 'chroot' vt, just type 'exit'. I hope this is what you need. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[3]: [newbie] [Fwd: [Mandrake Off Topic] LICQ/Dynamically opening ports in Linksys router]
Hello FemmeFatale, Monday, June 23, 2003, 1:02:15 PM, you wrote: F AFAIK there are no SI FW's available for doing app aware F targeting... a proxy MAY be able to be configured to do so...but it F is beyond my humble knowledge as to how this would be F accomplished. Mine too, but thanks for the suggestion. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS
OK, But on the current release M9.1 , where is the tab to not install Lilo in the MBR or anywhere else for that matter. I have'nt noticed any choice so far ? John Joeb wrote: When installing the second 9.1, don't install any boot loader. Then, reboot to your old linux, modify the lilo.conf and add the lines pointing to the second copy (don't forget to rerun lilo). Then reboot and select the second install and it should come up. Joeb ---Original Message--- From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/26/03 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS The question is this . Install 1, OS M9.1 on /dev/hda7 lilo in MBR.fine, this reads /etc/lilo.conf from partition/dev/hda7 Install 2, OS M9.1 on /dev/hda6 lilo still in MBR but overwrites previous LILO this will read which /etc/lilo.conf ? because now you have two /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda7, or /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda6, and what is more, if I want to make it read /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hda7 how do I do that ? Is it possible ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Multiboot on same drive
Johan Scheepers wrote: Hi John, OK I do not no about w2k but I had win XP and MD8.0 run together for 6 months until the drive crashed - no fault of the OS's - after replacement I use them seperate. While it was working it worked fine. It was a cleaen drive to start - I used partition magic to partition the disk. Like.. hda1 - win xp hda5 - MD8.0 hda6 - swap Installed win xp first then MD8.0 This is to let linux detect OS's and config lilo and write to MBR What now happens is when pick win xp on GUI it start win xp loader and there you pick again if req. If you pick linux then it start. ** In your case lets asume clean drive. Ok you can partition as follow. hda1 - w2k hda2 - extended partition hda5 - linux flavour 1 hda6 - swap ( only one for both flavours they wont be running at the same time - mine works like that) hda7 - linux flavour 2.. Maybe a dos partition after hda2 for a transfer area between the OS's - linux can read vfat 16, 32 but i do not now other flavours and visa versa.. You need a common denominator to transfer stuf around - I use dos partition for that reason. If you do this then part no's change. * Again if it is a clean drive you can use linux to patition the drive as suggested - then install first flavour in EXPERT mode to HDA5 or 7 - (it does not really matter) - to prevent MD to write the MBR. Now install w2k on HDA1.(it will write to MBR) Then install flavour 2 to your open linux partition - now you may use auto install - you need to let it detect and config lilo and write MBR. Be sure to make boot disks. Now if all go to plan your last install wil be in charge of booting. Maybe you may need my example of lilo.conf to correct your config. If this is a LIVE disk you need someting like partition magic it works very nice BUT it failed me once. Maybe linux can partition live drive - I do not know. Then do as suggested and install. *** Now something interesting - I read it in a linux mag and tried it - it works. If you have a second drive - you can create there a partiton to put the swap or /home - and maybe more I only tried this. *** Ok if all this works you may access the other flavour from the live flavour by mounting it manually (would not advize to put it in fstab). What is importend here if you accessed the not live then you can not do like cd /boot it will revert to live one - you MUST do like cd /manx/root then it will move inside the not live flavour. Ok I have these rack and trays and seven HD's of diiferent makes and size. My Importent 2 drives I keep save - the rest I do experiment with. Trust the above will be of assistance. Feel free to ask if you need more info - it is difficult to know what you need. Enjoy Johan Yes, well, there ought to be an easy way really. Something quick and simple. I would like to do the second M9.1 install and be sure NOT to install a lilo anywhere, but so far I haven't seen any means by which you can skip the lilo install on current M9.1 install discs. Then use the lilo of the first M9.1 install, and it's link with /etc/lilo.conf in the first M9.1 OS, to enter a stanza to boot the second M9.1 OS, but I'm not at all confident that , a) I can skip the second lilo install, b) That the lilo of the first install will not get confused which of the two /etc/lilo.conf scripts now available to it, and end up reading the wrong lilo.conf script, the one from the second M9.1 install. Am I assured this will not happen ? How does Lilo map itself to /etc/lilo.conf, will it find the correct partition to read lilo.conf ? when you have two identicle M9.1 on the same drive ? I just wonder how lilo maps lilo.conf ? I am guessing that it is merely set up to look for an /etc/lilo.conf in / partition, but that would be risky, it might find the /etc/lilo.conf of any old linux OS, so there must be something more to make certain of it. I suppose, when lilo is installed, it maps the partition table and is told to look for a /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hd(x) where x is the partition in question. So that would be all right then. That makes sure it doesn't pick the wrong one. In which case it's just a question of making sure lilo does not get installed on the second M9.1 install, anyone know for sure how to do that, because so far I haven't noticed how to do it on the current version of drakeX. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Latest version of Opera/Mandrake?
Hello DrewMartin, Wednesday, June 25, 2003, 9:23:22 AM, you wrote: D There is a new version of Opera it's on their Website,and the Rpm's D are there. Thanks to you and to Doug, Tom, and Brant for this suggestion. I was hesitant to use this as it was for '9' and not '9.1', and was not sure it would work. I tried other '9' software that didn't seem to work. Installed it and it seems to be working OK. Hello Thomas, TW I tried it and it worked great at first and then for some reason TW it has slowed way down to the point its a pain to use. I'm not TW sure what the cause is, so the best I can say is that it looks TW good, but actual mileage may vary. An older version of Opera had a problem if you use blocking to avoid ads, obnoxious sites, etc. It would wait to time out on each access, and this made it look very slow. I heard it was fixed in later versions, but don't know first-hand. There's a rather good support list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might try asking there to find out what's going on. -- Thanks to all, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1
On Thursday 26 June 2003 08:19, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 09:38, Guilherme Cirne wrote: Hi all, I have a font problem in java apps running under ML 9.1 which is very hard to explain so I have screenshot showing exactly what I mean. I can send this to anyone who is willing to help. Basically what happens is this. The height of the default java font (Dialog) is not being calculated correctly under ML 9.1. So all components, like buttons, are much higher than they should be. I know that Dialog is just a link which by default points to Lucida Sans and this can be changed in the jre font.properties file. But the strange thing is that if the font of a particular component is set to Lucida Sans directly then the height is calculated correctly and the component looks like it should. So the problem isn't the Lucida Sans font. This can be seen clearly on the screenshot which I made. This only happens on ML 9.1. On 9.0 it works as it should. I have also tried different jre's like Blackdown's 1.4.1 and Sun's 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 beta and they all have this problem. So this is a ML 9.1 specific issue. I have also performed various installations of ML 9.1 on different machines and the results are the same. So if anybody has seen this and can help me I would be very grateful. And don't forget, I can send anyone a screenshot which makes it much clearer to see the problem. TIA, You might try running the Java IDE under a different window manager or desktop (Gnome, WindowMaker, XFCE, Enlightenment, etc) to see if the problem persists across those as well - it could merely be a font problem in the window manager/desktop you're currently using... I forgot to mention that I had already tried running under KDE, Gnome and IceWM and the results are the same. So, any other ideas? -- Guilherme Cirne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop?
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:22:04 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't need to - it's been point and click ever since NT came out. Though I hear the latest Windows server will have - gasp - a command line. That'll confuse a lot of people. Yes, M$ is going to implement a command line. They talk and bitch and gripe about how *ni in archaic and lacks power and is difficult to use, but they try to steal ideas and technology from *nix all the time. Hypocritical two-faced lying bastards. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] VM Ware questions
Hello all. Now that I've finished tormenting Joe for another day or so, I seem to have a problem. I downloaded VM Ware from the club, installed it and then discovered that I couldn't even get an evalutation license for it. So...I downloaded the new version. And guess what? I got the license and it stopped working within about 10 minutes complaining that there is a new version out there. Of course there isn't. :-) I'm thinking now that I should have deleted the old version and installed the new one fresh rather than upgraded. Am I right? The other question could be a RTFM one, but I couldn't find an intelligable answer in the FM so I'll try here. (Hates PDF sometimes!) I installed it on a box with two OS's already installed. One, is, of course, our favourite Linux distro, the other hails from the evil empire and is known as XP. I can understand placing a virtual machine but the instructions seem to indicate that I should reinstall XP (activation code and all) in VM Ware just to access what's already there. So...should I be setting up the virtual machine with a boot disk from XP? Just what am I, thick headedly, missing? Thanks! ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Updated kernel
What does this mean, and how do I fix it? Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# urpmi kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/i586/../../updates/9.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## 1:kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk ## mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) look like there was a problem, the default vmlinuz version is not the same of the initrd which mean you have a mdk kernel and not a mdk initrd you may go in trouble not adding entry, 2421-18 already exists Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Multiboot on same drive
At 08:27 PM 6/26/2003 +0100, you wrote: bull (insert visual here) size snip Yes, well, there ought to be an easy way really. Something quick and simple. I would like to do the second M9.1 install and be sure NOT to install a lilo anywhere, but so far I haven't seen any means by which you can skip the lilo install on current M9.1 install discs. Then use the lilo of the first M9.1 install, and it's link with /etc/lilo.conf in the first M9.1 OS, to enter a stanza to boot the second M9.1 OS, but I'm not at all confident that , a) I can skip the second lilo install, b) That the lilo of the first install will not get confused which of the two /etc/lilo.conf scripts now available to it, and end up reading the wrong lilo.conf script, the one from the second M9.1 install. Am I assured this will not happen ? How does Lilo map itself to /etc/lilo.conf, will it find the correct partition to read lilo.conf ? when you have two identicle M9.1 on the same drive ? I just wonder how lilo maps lilo.conf ? I am guessing that it is merely set up to look for an /etc/lilo.conf in / partition, but that would be risky, it might find the /etc/lilo.conf of any old linux OS, so there must be something more to make certain of it. I suppose, when lilo is installed, it maps the partition table and is told to look for a /etc/lilo.conf on /dev/hd(x) where x is the partition in question. So that would be all right then. That makes sure it doesn't pick the wrong one. In which case it's just a question of making sure lilo does not get installed on the second M9.1 install, anyone know for sure how to do that, because so far I haven't noticed how to do it on the current version of drakeX. John Correct me if i'm wrong but LILO will overwrite itself if stuck to the MBR. If i'm not right I'd just write LILO to a floppy for hte one you want it to skip. That way no harm done, Lilo writes to something you can still write the OTHER lilo to your MBR after all. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Latest version of Opera/Mandrake?
On Thursday 26 June 2003 04:20 pm, rikona wrote: An older version of Opera had a problem if you use blocking to avoid ads, obnoxious sites, etc. It would wait to time out on each access, and this made it look very slow. I heard it was fixed in later versions, but don't know first-hand. This was 7.11. Its probably something I did. I don't know what offhand. I haven't gotten around to figuring it out. If anyone would like, if and when I do, I'll post an explanation as to what it was and how I fixed it. Tom Williams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] xclock
I know this is kinda silly, but I've been at this for days and I can't figure out what I'm doin' wrong. I cannot get xclock to accept my command line arguments for -fg, -hd, or -hl. The -bg argument is accepted correctly, but none of the others. Any tips, help, slaps to the head appreciated. Yes I read the manpage and did about a hundred Googles, no luck. Cheers all! -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] No response on questions
On 24 Jun 2003 04:15:23 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reality if we like a word, we file the serial numbers off and claim it for our own. Heh heh heh. Language does tend to work that way - despite the best efforts of the bean-counters and their political masters. In fact one could consider language itself the original open source project. After all, so much of the English language is words from other languages which have been incorporated, with or without spin. This is one reason why english is such a dominant language. Browsing an etymological dictionary can be very revealing, in that respect. Is copyright really such a useful device for the writer, who, above all else, wants to be read? If the success of a popular song can be measured by the number of people who find themselves listening and responding and using the words that mean something, then surely the same thing applies to code, to some extent at least. Linux is, in effect, for those for whom such things matter, the language of democracy. If that were not the case then they wouldn't be trying so hard to suppress it. Thanks for the laugh. Janet Blankfield The ideal love affair is one conducted by post. JBS - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... life's a beach ... - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Western Digital Drives, a patch u may need
if you are exclusively in LINUX use this with FreeDOS (ty Tom Brinkman for sending me to the kernel list archives where I found this wonderful tidbit). http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_admin=1p_faqid=913p_created=1047068027 - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mail list
Hi All I've been lurking here since 8.0. I thank you all for making me comfortable if not really proficient in ML. I have a problem which I have tried to resolve with ML and my site host. ML won't answer me and my guy says it's all ML's list servers' fault. Here's the deal. I am about to lose my [EMAIL PROTECTED] because Comcast bought 'em. I have tried several times to subscribe to the lists as [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Sympa server is unable to resolve the host-name for some reason. Other lists with other servers and other general correspondence works perfectly. I know there are other ways to work around this problem. That's not what I want. I want to know why this is happening and I want ML to fix it. I'll probably be happy with the why. It burns my butt to get incessant warnings about the expiration of my Club dues and a deaf ear to my plea. Being a stubborn old fellow, I ain't givin' up a dime, sou, euro, or pence until I get an answer. I know I'm a little ripple in a big pond, but Mandrake sure has a way of shooting themselves in the foot. Sincerely Lee Wiggers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printer virus problem
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 00:36, Robin Turner wrote: No, of course I haven't got a virus, but someone on our LAN has, and it's printing garbage (probably its own code) to my Samba printer. One line, one page, so we've got through two reams of paper this week. Short of updating virus definitions and scanning all our Windows boxes (eventually necessary, but a big job, especially since our institution is not subscribed for virus definiton updates) is there a way I can block this? Sir Robin Can't you simply blow out all the jobs for that printer, take the printer offline, scan the network for the machine that's attempting to communicate to your Samba printer and then blow it up? -- Fri Jun 27 09:30:00 EST 2003 09:30:00 up 2 days, 9:16, 3 users, load average: 1.02, 1.15, 1.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Littering is dumb. -- Ronald Macdonald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 07:11, Guilherme Cirne wrote: You might try running the Java IDE under a different window manager or desktop (Gnome, WindowMaker, XFCE, Enlightenment, etc) to see if the problem persists across those as well - it could merely be a font problem in the window manager/desktop you're currently using... I forgot to mention that I had already tried running under KDE, Gnome and IceWM and the results are the same. So, any other ideas? I would assume it has something to do with XFT - since support wasn't really in 9.0 but IS in 9.1 - so it would have something to do with the XFT settings... -- Fri Jun 27 09:30:00 EST 2003 09:30:00 up 2 days, 9:16, 3 users, load average: 1.02, 1.15, 1.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Littering is dumb. -- Ronald Macdonald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux passing the Mac on the Desktop?
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 07:55, Miark wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:22:04 +0300 Robin Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't need to - it's been point and click ever since NT came out. Though I hear the latest Windows server will have - gasp - a command line. That'll confuse a lot of people. Yes, M$ is going to implement a command line. They talk and bitch and gripe about how *ni in archaic and lacks power and is difficult to use, but they try to steal ideas and technology from *nix all the time. Hypocritical two-faced lying bastards. Miark Keep in mind that contractors that work(ed) for Microsoft in their support centres are trained to do troubleshooting from COMMAND.COM or CMD.EXE (been there done that) -- Fri Jun 27 09:35:00 EST 2003 09:35:00 up 2 days, 9:21, 3 users, load average: 1.48, 1.25, 1.13 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * You will receive a legacy which will place you above want. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VM Ware questions
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 08:17, John Wilson wrote: Hello all. Now that I've finished tormenting Joe for another day or so, I seem to have a problem. What - you actually LISTEN to what Joe has to say? Damn - you've been hornswaggled, mate! (g) I downloaded VM Ware from the club, installed it and then discovered that I couldn't even get an evalutation license for it. So...I downloaded the new version. And guess what? I got the license and it stopped working within about 10 minutes complaining that there is a new version out there. Of course there isn't. :-) I'm thinking now that I should have deleted the old version and installed the new one fresh rather than upgraded. Am I right? The other question could be a RTFM one, but I couldn't find an intelligable answer in the FM so I'll try here. (Hates PDF sometimes!) VMWare documentation ain't what it COULD be - it's rather like it's part of RedHat or something - they assume you're a frigging programmer or technodroid and offer only cryptic allusions to realworld issues... Look, you CAN set it up to actually access a physical drive, but in all reality, UNTIL YOU'RE SUPER DOOPER FAMILIAR WITH VMWARE, don't do it. Use virtual HD's instead. You can Run XP in a VMWare session with a VM HD - I do that when I absolutely have to use it - which saves heaps of space overall... Then again, I reckon that I'd rather have only one OS to boot to - and if I need another, I'll run it in a VMWare session with a VM disk (so I can always save the VM HD when I reinstall - or access the same VM HD from another machine on the network) HTH...(and beware the Joe) -- Fri Jun 27 09:35:00 EST 2003 09:35:00 up 2 days, 9:21, 3 users, load average: 1.48, 1.25, 1.13 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * You will receive a legacy which will place you above want. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xclock
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 08:50, JoeHill wrote: I know this is kinda silly, but I've been at this for days and I can't figure out what I'm doin' wrong. I cannot get xclock to accept my command line arguments for -fg, -hd, or -hl. The -bg argument is accepted correctly, but none of the others. Any tips, help, slaps to the head appreciated. Yes I read the manpage and did about a hundred Googles, no luck. Cheers all! And is it safe to assume you already know how to tell time? -- Fri Jun 27 09:40:00 EST 2003 09:40:00 up 2 days, 9:26, 3 users, load average: 0.92, 1.08, 1.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * All dwarfs have beards and wear up to twelve layers of clothing. Gender is more or less optional. (Guards! Guards!) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1
On Thursday 26 June 2003 20:35, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 07:11, Guilherme Cirne wrote: You might try running the Java IDE under a different window manager or desktop (Gnome, WindowMaker, XFCE, Enlightenment, etc) to see if the problem persists across those as well - it could merely be a font problem in the window manager/desktop you're currently using... I forgot to mention that I had already tried running under KDE, Gnome and IceWM and the results are the same. So, any other ideas? I would assume it has something to do with XFT - since support wasn't really in 9.0 but IS in 9.1 - so it would have something to do with the XFT settings... Do you know where I could start looking? -- Guilherme Cirne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xclock
On 27 Jun 2003 09:45:11 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: And is it safe to assume you already know how to tell time? That I'm still workin on. :) -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1
On 27 Jun 2003 09:35:32 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I would assume it has something to do with XFT - since support wasn't really in 9.0 but IS in 9.1 - so it would have something to do with the XFT settings... I had the same probs in 9.0 and 9.1, both of which I have AA disabled for anything under 15 points. Never seen a sol'n. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VM Ware questions
On June 26, 2003 04:43 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: What - you actually LISTEN to what Joe has to say? Damn - you've been hornswaggled, mate! (g) Actually, I just torment him. It's the Canadian way for us British Columbians to torment anyone fool enough to live east of the Rockies. Oh, we'll make a small concession to Albertans, after all, they're BC wannabes but further east than that? Nahh..we just remind them that we're sipping mai tai's on the porch on New Years Day while they huddle indoors from the ice and snow. :-) VMWare documentation ain't what it COULD be - it's rather like it's part of RedHat or something - they assume you're a frigging programmer or technodroid and offer only cryptic allusions to realworld issues... Look, you CAN set it up to actually access a physical drive, but in all reality, UNTIL YOU'RE SUPER DOOPER FAMILIAR WITH VMWARE, don't do it. Use virtual HD's instead. You can Run XP in a VMWare session with a VM HD - I do that when I absolutely have to use it - which saves heaps of space overall... Grr...I do hope it will read and run what's there already! To think I'm doing this so that I can test it running resource hogs like Poser 5 and Photoshop 8. (As good as TheGIMP is it ain't Photoshop yet, dammit.) HTH...(and beware the Joe) always :-) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java and font problem on ML 9.1
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 09:56, Guilherme Cirne wrote: Do you know where I could start looking? Not quite sure, to be honest... -- Fri Jun 27 12:00:00 EST 2003 12:00:00 up 2 days, 11:46, 3 users, load average: 1.15, 1.38, 1.42 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A program generator creates programs that are more buggy than the program generator -- Murphy's Laws of Computation n3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Thanks,
Well, thanks to everyones help in trying to solve my installation problems with Mandrake. Unfortunately, I have installed it 5-6 times now with all sorts of different settings and have come up empty. So at this point, I am either going to seek another distribution of Linux, or give up on it completely. If anyone has any suggestions for a good distribution for a beginner (Although I do have a BSc in Computer Science, so beginner might not be quite the right word) I would appreciate it. Wade
Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS
i'm not sure if this has been covered, but have you tried expert mode (or text mode)? i'm quite sure i've seen the option somewhere when installing 9.1, but it's been some time since. - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 03:03 Subject: Re: [newbie] Dual Booting the same OS OK, But on the current release M9.1 , where is the tab to not install Lilo in the MBR or anywhere else for that matter. I have'nt noticed any choice so far ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updated kernel
whatever it is, try not to reboot until you sort this out. (although since the two kernels are very similar, your system MAY survive a reboot) it appears that you have one or more entries in /etc/lilo.conf where the linux kernel (vmlinuz) isn't match properly to the initial ramdisk (initrd.img) IMHO, you can 1. try to troubleshoot the issue yourself, in which case it may help to read http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php specifically the section on Black Magic: Kernel Updates 2. post your lilo.conf and contents of /boot (use ls -l instead of just ls) here. 3. try to clobber over everything by reinstalling your kernels, clearing out your lilo.conf (remember to back up) using the --force if necessary rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk followed by rpm -ivh kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk it *SHOULD* work, assuming your system hasn't been drastically modified but at the very least, have a working boot disk ready - Original Message - From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 06:23 Subject: [newbie] Updated kernel What does this mean, and how do I fix it? Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# urpmi kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/i586/../../updates/9.1/RPMS/kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm Preparing... ## 1:kernel-2.4.21.0.18mdk ## mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) look like there was a problem, the default vmlinuz version is not the same of the initrd which mean you have a mdk kernel and not a mdk initrd you may go in trouble not adding entry, 2421-18 already exists Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kernel configuration
When someone says to use the following parameters to configure a kernel, how can this be implemented in makemenuconfig? CONFIG_APM=y # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE=y # CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE is not set CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK=y Is this done by manually editing the configure script? Just trying to figure out a website with kernel confige info for my hardware. Thanks Noah Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com