Re: [newbie] mandriva future?
On Monday 11 April 2005 05:59 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 11 Apr 2005 12:04, Dobrescu Mihai wrote: Dear community, After the merge, what happents to the distro? Will be any free version available? I used MDK for 2 years... I've started to love it! quote Q1. Will the Limited Edition 2005 distro be split into several flavors, like Discovery and PowerPack? A download Edition (3CD available on public mirrors) will be released? A1. There will be only one version available through the Mandrakestore. Club members will have access to several different versions, and there will be a Download edition as before. /quote There will be one download free version per year, with additional material available to club members. Anne Hi Anne Do you think there will be (free) updates available for the download version as it is now? I suppose the same urpmi soruces will be available? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Kontact Question (how to)
On a shut down I got a strange yellow screen, had to power down. On reboot I had disk errors. I let the boot loader 'fix' them (with risk of lost data). After reboot, some task icons and desktop icons were missing and Mozilla lost it settings/bookmarks. I was able to recover OK except for Kontact. I have two mail accounts. Prior to the 'crash' the new message/reply screen allowed me to select the 'from' account from a drop down, now it doesn't. I browsed the configuration panels but did not see anything related. All else with Kontact works normally. Any ideas? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 12:30, mike wrote: Ahh... thanks Steven. Never happened to me before at least since I been using Linux. I guess I thought I was safer than I really was. Not sure how to turn that off in mozilla will look around. Again thanks, Mike Not quite sure in Mozilla Mail - but it's there somewhere. If it was Evolution I could tell you right off the bat... -- stephen kuhn I found out what the problem was, it seems to be a bug with the particular version of Mozilla I _was_ useing, tried different version with no problems.(I think anyways) Still going after the no html solution though. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document
I know this is actually a no...no... but sometimes I get these emails meant for a windows box with attachments like joker.exe or whatever. Anyways I dont open the attachments, but I view the message source just to see what it looks like. I know :-| killed the cat. I did not ever have a problem until today I got 2 of them and each time I viewed them X died with client killed. So I copy them to a file and view them there with an editor. Ok no problem so I open up my browser and do a search on some of particulars like subject and attachments. I whined up at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/ at a developers forum and see a similar message there. I'm scrolling it in mozilla browser and it kills X again. What is happening? is viewing the text document in browser executing some kind of java exploit? Should I report this to Source forge? Or am I compromized, I ran chkrootkit and results were negative (nothing showed up). Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] X getting killed by viewing text document
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 10:30, mike wrote: snip I'm scrolling it in mozilla browser and it kills X again. What is happening? is viewing the text document in browser executing some kind of java exploit? Should I report this to Source forge? Or am I compromized, I ran chkrootkit and results were negative (nothing showed up). Thanks Mike Check your mail preferences and make sure that you only view the messages at TEXT instead of HTML = that is where the problem lies. -- stephen kuhn Ahh... thanks Steven. Never happened to me before at least since I been using Linux. I guess I thought I was safer than I really was. Not sure how to turn that off in mozilla will look around. Again thanks, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Which kernel?
Cameron MacDonald wrote: Hi I feel really silly for asking this, but what command do I use to find out which kernel I'm using? I know I've done it before, but I've got so many commands rolling around in my head like ball bearings , and I forget to add them to my list of Remember this!. Thanks Cam uname -a Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] PATH Oops
Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 21:15 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: Anne, are you using man:/iptables on the Konqueror url line? It works fine here on my box. Chris, you're a star! I had missed the '/'! Thanks Anne Anne: It works here (cooker) without the '/'. Just man:iptables. Adolfo ditto here on 10.0 man:iptables Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] PATH Oops
Chris wrote: On Sunday 03 April 2005 03:38 pm, mike wrote: Adolfo Bello wrote: On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 21:15 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: Anne, are you using man:/iptables on the Konqueror url line? It works fine here on my box. Chris, you're a star! I had missed the '/'! Thanks Anne Anne: It works here (cooker) without the '/'. Just man:iptables. Adolfo ditto here on 10.0 man:iptables Mike Yep, that works also, for some reason I wrote down in my things to remember book that the syntax is man:/manpage name Chris, I tried man:/ and it does seem kinda handy if all you can remember is the begining of the manpage you are looking for. Like man:/tc the drop down shows all the manpages begining with tc Thats going into my things to remember book also :-) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The clipboard and the command line.
James Henry Maiewski wrote: Hello, I want to manipulate the clipboard from a script. Where is the clipboard (Klipper) stuff? /usr/share/config/klipperrc /home/user/.kde/share/config/klipperrc Specifically, I want to have a script to take a URL, and encase it in A HREF/A for use in posting. I might then even make a Klipper 'action' do this automatically. Might take a look at this page may help. http://docs.kde.org/en/3.4/kdebase/klipper/actions-tab.html With an advance of thanks, JHM Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] df table file
SnapafunFrank wrote: When within my system I issue the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# df FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 966M 714M 203M 78% / /dev/hda1 966M 14M 903M 2% /boot /dev/hda6 9.4G 5.1G 4.0G 57% /usr /dev/hda8 9.4G 8.8G 693M 93% /home /dev/hda91020M 312M 656M 33% /var /dev/hda3 12G 2.0G 8.8G 19% /mnt/empty /dev/hda4 3.4G 2.7G 712M 80% /mnt/win_h /dev/hdb2 16M 2.3M 13M 16% /mnt/hdb2_boot /dev/hdb5 92M 55M 33M 63% /mnt/hdb5_root /dev/hdb6 92M 62M 25M 72% /mnt/hdb6_var /dev/hdb7 3.1G 1.9G 1.1G 64% /mnt/hdb7_usr /dev/hdb9 1.5G 1.4G 151M 91% /mnt/hdb9_home /dev/hdb1 14G 13G 1.2G 92% /mnt/win_c2 I get a summary of all my partitions AND their names. However, I'm unable to do this when I'm NOT within the system: So, is there a file on the system that could simply give me this info by simply reading it ? Probably /etc/fstab and /proc/partitions would give you some info. (on the system in question) You could make a simple one line script like df diskfree.txt and make a cron job to run it. Then read the diskfree.txt file. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] audacity
Aron Smith wrote: anyone know where libmp3lame.so is kept (lame is installed) audacity needs it for exporting mp3s [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ updatedb [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ locate libmp3lame.so Should find it for you. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] info,man,documentation and TWiki
I think rikona has a good idea about discussing documentation. Recent threads... What's where Is there TWiki info on man pages? DrakeTalk list started for extended discussions Finding things in emergencies [was TWiki info on man pages?] I was wondering if TWiki its self could handle this, for instance their is Group on the cooker wiki site called Documentation (its a dead link) but perhaps if there was a Documention group people interested in putting things together on TWiki site could exchange ideas. I saw this plugin on Twiki.org http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/DiscussionForumAddOn a demo http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Sandbox/DiscussionForum Might end up being too complicated, not sure about maintenance. Just an idea. I could learn alot more about the command line sometimes howtos and toturials help get you over the edge. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DVD recorder compatibility
On Friday 11 March 2005 02:14 pm, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All How can I know whether the following DVD recorder is compatible with Mandrake 10.1: Nec - Recorder DVD ND-3520A Double Layer 16x bulk ? Thanks in advance, Paul Paul, You can try looking in the hardware database http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fhard.php3. Also you can look at the Twiki at ttp://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/DVDDriVes. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Default Browser
Is there a setting for system wide default browser? In particular, Kontact uses Konqueror as the browser. I would like it to be Mozilla. I look in Kontact configure but did not see an appropriate setting. Anybody know how to change it? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Default Browser
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 01:43 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 22 Feb 2005 14:55, Mike Adolf wrote: Is there a setting for system wide default browser? In particular, Kontact uses Konqueror as the browser. I would like it to be Mozilla. I look in Kontact configure but did not see an appropriate setting. Anybody know how to change it? Mike kcontrol Components File Associations text html and move Mozilla to the top of the list. Anne Thanks Anne That would have taken me a while to find! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] external hardware mouse
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: Hi All I've noticed that since using external hardware mouse in Mandrake 10.1 that I don't have a problem with disconnections from server all the time, or difficulty logging on in the first place, which was happening frequently before. I don't know whether it is being in linux, the modem, or a combination! It's very nice though Rosemary If you mean external modem(which I think you do). External modems(hardware) Linux does prefer :-) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 12:19 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: Mike, Don't worry about it. It sound like the driver is doing something for you that I wasn't expecting. In the long run, it will make things less complicated for people. It will make things interesting for people with both 2.4.x and 2.6.x kernels, but things are interesting for them anyway. For me, it is just one more difference between 9.2 and 10.1 to remember... Mikkel Mikkel Thanks for all your time and help! Mike Mike, I am glad to help. The only problem is that now I want to get my hands on an IDE ZIP drive, and try some other things. I want to see what happens if you us the ide-scsi driver with one. (Is ide-scsi still used in 2.6.x kernels?) I also what to see how using the ide-floppy driver works with a ZIP disk with an ext2 file system on partition 1, instead of a FAT file system on partition 4. (...maybe I can talk my sister into swapping her internel ZIP for a USB or a SCSI ZIP externel drive...) Mikkel Good luck, have fun, let me know any good stuff. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] supposed thunderbird download
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:27, mike wrote: Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: I downloaded thunderbird - I thought. It downloaded to home/rosemary/tmp but when I went to tmp something called orbit was there. Download manager says thunderbird was downloaed. What has happened? Thanks Rosemary Which download manager did you use? Mike The one in mozilla rosemary You can type about:config in the addressbar and scroll down to a line that says browser.download.dir user set string/home/mike/tmp and at the end of the line is where you have it set to download to. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
On Sunday 13 February 2005 01:54 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 09:54 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I guess the driver, or udev, is translating the partition table or something, so that /dev/hdd is what would be /dev/hdd4 in 9.2. I'll have to dig out my USB ZIP drive, and see how that is handled. I suspect that that will still use the /dev/sd?4 for ZIP disks. I am not sure how it would handle a disk that wasn't partitioned yet. It could make partitioning and formating a ZIP disk a problem under Linux! What does fdisk -l /dev/hdd show? Mikkel Here are the partitions. Remember that this was formatted on XP as FAT32. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# fdisk -l /dev/hdd Disk /dev/hdd: 100 MB, 100646912 bytes 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 95 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd1 ? 379950 937327 570754815+ 72 Unknown Partition 1 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?): phys=(357, 116, 40) logical=(379949, 11, 5) Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings: phys=(357, 32, 45) logical=(937326, 59, 3) Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdd2 ? 82368 1027695 968014120 65 Novell Netware 386 Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?): phys=(288, 115, 43) logical=(82367, 59, 19) Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings: phys=(367, 114, 50) logical=(1027694, 14, 2) Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdd3 ? 913029 1858355 968014096 79 Unknown Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?): phys=(366, 32, 33) logical=(913028, 3, 26) Partition 3 has different physical/logical endings: phys=(357, 32, 43) logical=(1858354, 20, 25) Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdd4 ? 1409025 1409052 27749+ d Unknown Partition 4 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?): phys=(372, 97, 50) logical=(1409024, 0, 1) Partition 4 has different physical/logical endings: phys=(0, 10, 0) logical=(1409051, 6, 11) Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary. Partition table entries are not in disk order Mike Mike, How did you format it in XP? Did you use the ZIP tools to format it, or did you right click on the drive icon, and pick format? Does XP see it as a ZIP drive, or as an IDE floppy drive? The reason I ask is because it is possible to format a ZIP drive without a partition table. When you do that, you get the kind of results from fdisk that you show here, as well as the mounting problems we ran into. It isn't a big problem doing it that way, except that if this is the case, then you will have problems if you try to use a ZIP disk that is formatted the standard way. XP probably will not care... Mikkel I just right clicked and picked FAT32. However, I also used a new IOMEGA disk (right out of the box) which I assume was formated by IOMEGA. When I did fdisk I got the same kind of results. Should I try something else, like obtaining IOMEGA fomatting software (download?). What if I format using mke2fs (ext2), do think all would go back to normal then (what ever that is!). I just would not use the disk in windows. This should not be so damn complicated and difficult!! (oops linux fustration showing). Mike Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
Mike, Don't worry about it. It sound like the driver is doing something for you that I wasn't expecting. In the long run, it will make things less complicated for people. It will make things interesting for people with both 2.4.x and 2.6.x kernels, but things are interesting for them anyway. For me, it is just one more difference between 9.2 and 10.1 to remember... Mikkel Mikkel Thanks for all your time and help! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird both borked after upgrade
Chuck MATTSEN wrote: Not urgent, actually, as I'm planning on switching from Thunderbird back to Evolution, as it will sync with the Tungsten E I have on the way :-), but I /would/ like to be able to access the mail which I now seem to have no access to; same with Firefox -- I know I can create a new profile there and rebuild what I need, but it'd be nice to have access to the old settings. The scenario is this: Have been running older versions of both TB and FF until today, when I decided to take the two of them out of my urpmi skip.list and allow them to upgrade finally. So, did urpmi, which did its thing, ran each once as root first (since that seemed to be critical with earlier upgrades), then attempted to run as usual. Thunderbird seems to have kept my account settings, and my folder directory even seems to show the proper counts for unread mail, etc., as I had left it before the upgrade, but nothing will show to the right ... neither a message listing nor anything in the preview pane. Similarly, the get mail button seems to do nothing now. Any ideas, other than creating a new profile and starting over? Same with Firefox ... my bookmarks are still there, and my Google toolbar is still there, but I've lost the ability to make profile changes (it warns it couldn't write to the profile and any changes would be lost upon shutting down the program). Any ideas there, again, other than starting over with the new profile? I know that upgrades have been problematic from the get-go, but was hoping they'd ironed things out a bit better by now. Oh, well. Anyway, TIA for any pointers. I've had little luck finding my way around the Mozilla forum/FAQs for this. You could delete the .slt in your ~/.phoenix/default/ directory and restart Firefox. Sometimes thats corrected some strange happenings for me. I did not lose my settings when deleteing .slt. Restart Firefox and it will create a new .slt with your old settings. May help, I don't know, I don't use the mdk rpm version. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird both borked after upgrade
Chuck MATTSEN wrote: Thunderbird is proving to be more challenging. I tried copying the mail dirs for safekeeping then a urpme followed by a urpmi, which gave me a functional copy of TB, albeit with a brand new, empty profile. Then tried moving some of the old mail dirs to the new profile, and got *some* of my mail back (Inbox and one other folder with unread mail showed up, but none of the others ... odd). I may end up just calling the old mail a lost cause, unless someone has any other ideas. I'm still trying to find info at the Mozilla-TB forum, but I tend to get lost there and find everything but what I'm looking for. :-) So, it's not in the critical category, but rather in the gee, wouldn't it be great if category now ... still important, but Thx. In mozilla not sure about Tbird but probably the same. Look in ~/.mozilla/default/.slt/Mail/smtp.xxx.xxx/ It lists all my mail folders. You could try [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate Mail/smtp and see if that turns up anything. I guess it depends on how good of job urpme does :-) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] supposed thunderbird download
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: I downloaded thunderbird - I thought. It downloaded to home/rosemary/tmp but when I went to tmp something called orbit was there. Download manager says thunderbird was downloaed. What has happened? Thanks Rosemary Which download manager did you use? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
On Saturday 12 February 2005 09:54 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 04:31 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: This is strange. /dev/hdd should be the entire ZIP disk, including the partition table. /dev/hdd4 should be the partition with the data on it. Unless the ide-floppy driver is doing something different in 2.6.x, so that the ZIP data partition becomes /dev/hdd instead of /dev/hdd4. Did the disk you used have other files on it? Are you able to access files on other ZIP disks? If you boot without a disk in the drive, does it detect when you put in a disk? Does it detect when you change the ZIP disk? In any case, I would hold off on the Twiki entry for a while - it sounds like a bug report may be in order here. If the entry in /etc/fstab is being created for you, but is the wrong one, then that has to be fixed. One other small point - you do not have to reboot for changes in /etc/fstab to take affect. The file is read as needed. Hotplug adds entries on the fly when you plug in USB storage devices... Mikkel * I have one disk I formatted FAT32 on windows xp. * I booted 10.1 with disk in and wrote a text file to it. OK * I rebooted 10.1 with disk out and inserted after boot, the file was present and readable * I rebooted xp, the file was there but cr/lf screwed up. That is normal for a text file. Windows uses CR/LF, Linux uses LF. If you open it in Wordpad, it will fix it. * I rebooted 10.1 with disk in, file was there. * I manually ejected it and inserted a second disk containing IOMEGA written files (a new factory formatted disk) * When I open the zip, the window still showed the file from disk 1, and I could read it?? The information was still in the disk cache. It didn't go back out to the drive. I wonder if eject /dev/hdd or eject /mnt/zip would work. Try it and see if it unmounts and ejects the disk. I think it will work as a normal user. You should also be able to use eject zip. * I su-ed to root, umount /mnt/zip and mount /mnt/zip with IOMEGA disk still in drive. Now all files on disk were visible. Mike I guess the driver, or udev, is translating the partition table or something, so that /dev/hdd is what would be /dev/hdd4 in 9.2. I'll have to dig out my USB ZIP drive, and see how that is handled. I suspect that that will still use the /dev/sd?4 for ZIP disks. I am not sure how it would handle a disk that wasn't partitioned yet. It could make partitioning and formating a ZIP disk a problem under Linux! What does fdisk -l /dev/hdd show? Mikkel Here are the partitions. Remember that this was formatted on XP as FAT32. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# fdisk -l /dev/hdd Disk /dev/hdd: 100 MB, 100646912 bytes 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 95 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd1 ? 379950 937327 570754815+ 72 Unknown Partition 1 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?): phys=(357, 116, 40) logical=(379949, 11, 5) Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings: phys=(357, 32, 45) logical=(937326, 59, 3) Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdd2 ? 82368 1027695 968014120 65 Novell Netware 386 Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?): phys=(288, 115, 43) logical=(82367, 59, 19) Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings: phys=(367, 114, 50) logical=(1027694, 14, 2) Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdd3 ? 913029 1858355 968014096 79 Unknown Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?): phys=(366, 32, 33) logical=(913028, 3, 26) Partition 3 has different physical/logical endings: phys=(357, 32, 43) logical=(1858354, 20, 25) Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/hdd4 ? 1409025 1409052 27749+ d Unknown Partition 4 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?): phys=(372, 97, 50) logical=(1409024, 0, 1) Partition 4 has different physical/logical endings: phys=(0, 10, 0) logical=(1409051, 6, 11) Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary. Partition table entries are not in disk order Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
On Saturday 12 February 2005 11:08 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: [REMOVED earlier text] I was just doing some re-reading of your message. Your ZIP device should not be /dev/hdd. You say it is the slave on the first IDE channel? Ribbon1: Lite On DVD writer and Zip 100 This would be /dev/hdb, not /dev/hdd. So this would be something like /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0. I am still figuring out the naming conventions - I only have 1 device/cable on this machine, so I am guessing at the second device. In any case, you may want to check /var/log/dmesg to see wnat Linux is calling the device. It should list everything detected on the IDE bus, even if it doesn't know how to handle it. The names are directly from the device. Also, what does ls /dev/hd* show? Do you have a /dev/hdb? I wish I had an IDE ZIP drive here so I could check on it myself. Mikkel Here some IDE stuff from dmesg - ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot :00:07.1 PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1420-0x1427, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1428-0x142f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: Maxtor 51536H2, ATA DISK drive hdb: WDC WD1200JB-00EVA0, ATA DISK drive Using anticipatory io scheduler ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-451S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI Floppy, ATAPI FLOPPY drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 - ls /dev/h* /dev/hda /dev/hdb /dev/hdb2 /dev/hdb6 /dev/hdc /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1 /dev/hdb5 /dev/hdb7 I guess I need an hdd, which is what I used in 9.2, but it was their at 9.2 installation. How should I create hdd, and what should my fstab entry be? I am using fat32 format on the disk. Should I format it to something else? Mike Hi Mike, Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Too much going on here... Changing the format of the ZIP drive isn't going to help. Also, creatign /dev/hdd, and /dev/hdd4 probably isn't going to help ether. The problem is that the ZIP drive isn't being seen as a harddrive, but as a IDE floppy drive. You ca try running modprobe ide-floppy. I am not sure if the driver will handle it properly, or not. It should at least get you an entry in the /sys/bus/ide tree. Try it, and see what gets put into /var/log/messages when you do - it should help. If I get a chance, I'll see what I can find on google about this, as I am sure you are not the first person to have an IDE ZIP drive under udev. When we get it working, you are going to have to write it up for the twiki web site... Mikkel After I did as you suggested, messages contained: Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: hdd: No disk in drive Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm - Also if I run configure tool from harddrake it lists: Misc New devfs device: /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/part4 Old device file: /dev/hdd4 Model: ZIP 100 ATAPI Floppy Disk controller: - Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
On Saturday 12 February 2005 01:34 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: After I did as you suggested, messages contained: Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: hdd: No disk in drive Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm - Also if I run configure tool from harddrake it lists: Misc New devfs device: /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/part4 Old device file: /dev/hdd4 Model: ZIP 100 ATAPI Floppy Disk controller: - Mike Ok - now we are making progress. If you put ide-floppy in /etc/modprobe.preload, then you should alway get /dev/hdd4 created on boot. Now you should be able to create your desktop shortcut. You should also check to see if a mount point is created for it in /mnt when you put in a ZIP disk. If it is not automounted, then as a workaround, you could try doing this: mkdir /mnt/ZIP edit /etc/fs and add this line: (all one line, even thoug it is wrapped here!) none /mnt/ZIP supermount dev=/dev/hdd4,fs=ext2:vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 This should automount any ZIP disk on /mnt/ZIP. It will work with both ext2 and fat formatted disks, as long as they use partition 4. It will also show up as an icon on the KDE desktop, but it will show always mounted. That is something I need to figure out how to change... Mikkel It now works! After editing modprobe.preload with ide-floppy, I rebooted. When I tried to copy a file to the zip, it failed. I looked in fstab and the system had placed the exact line you listed above. There is no hdd4 in dev, only hdd. So in desperation I changed fstab to /dev/hdd and rebooted with the disk in the drive. During boot, it polled the device (green light). It never did that before. I then opened it and successfully copied a file. Something still seems bogus. I guess I can make a Twiki entry, but I am not sure the solution is necessarily the correct one. Thanks for all you help. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
On Saturday 12 February 2005 04:31 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: On Saturday 12 February 2005 01:34 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: After I did as you suggested, messages contained: Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: hdd: No disk in drive Feb 12 09:24:42 mlnx kernel: hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm - Also if I run configure tool from harddrake it lists: Misc New devfs device: /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/part4 Old device file: /dev/hdd4 Model: ZIP 100 ATAPI Floppy Disk controller: - Mike Ok - now we are making progress. If you put ide-floppy in /etc/modprobe.preload, then you should alway get /dev/hdd4 created on boot. Now you should be able to create your desktop shortcut. You should also check to see if a mount point is created for it in /mnt when you put in a ZIP disk. If it is not automounted, then as a workaround, you could try doing this: mkdir /mnt/ZIP edit /etc/fs and add this line: (all one line, even thoug it is wrapped here!) none /mnt/ZIP supermount dev=/dev/hdd4,fs=ext2:vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 This should automount any ZIP disk on /mnt/ZIP. It will work with both ext2 and fat formatted disks, as long as they use partition 4. It will also show up as an icon on the KDE desktop, but it will show always mounted. That is something I need to figure out how to change... Mikkel It now works! After editing modprobe.preload with ide-floppy, I rebooted. When I tried to copy a file to the zip, it failed. I looked in fstab and the system had placed the exact line you listed above. There is no hdd4 in dev, only hdd. So in desperation I changed fstab to /dev/hdd and rebooted with the disk in the drive. During boot, it polled the device (green light). It never did that before. I then opened it and successfully copied a file. Something still seems bogus. I guess I can make a Twiki entry, but I am not sure the solution is necessarily the correct one. Thanks for all you help. Mike This is strange. /dev/hdd should be the entire ZIP disk, including the partition table. /dev/hdd4 should be the partition with the data on it. Unless the ide-floppy driver is doing something different in 2.6.x, so that the ZIP data partition becomes /dev/hdd instead of /dev/hdd4. Did the disk you used have other files on it? Are you able to access files on other ZIP disks? If you boot without a disk in the drive, does it detect when you put in a disk? Does it detect when you change the ZIP disk? In any case, I would hold off on the Twiki entry for a while - it sounds like a bug report may be in order here. If the entry in /etc/fstab is being created for you, but is the wrong one, then that has to be fixed. One other small point - you do not have to reboot for changes in /etc/fstab to take affect. The file is read as needed. Hotplug adds entries on the fly when you plug in USB storage devices... Mikkel * I have one disk I formatted FAT32 on windows xp. * I booted 10.1 with disk in and wrote a text file to it. OK * I rebooted 10.1 with disk out and inserted after boot, the file was present and readable * I rebooted xp, the file was there but cr/lf screwed up. * I rebooted 10.1 with disk in, file was there. * I manually ejected it and inserted a second disk containing IOMEGA written files (a new factory formatted disk) * When I open the zip, the window still showed the file from disk 1, and I could read it?? * I su-ed to root, umount /mnt/zip and mount /mnt/zip with IOMEGA disk still in drive. Now all files on disk were visible. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
[REMOVED earlier text] I was just doing some re-reading of your message. Your ZIP device should not be /dev/hdd. You say it is the slave on the first IDE channel? Ribbon1: Lite On DVD writer and Zip 100 This would be /dev/hdb, not /dev/hdd. So this would be something like /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0. I am still figuring out the naming conventions - I only have 1 device/cable on this machine, so I am guessing at the second device. In any case, you may want to check /var/log/dmesg to see wnat Linux is calling the device. It should list everything detected on the IDE bus, even if it doesn't know how to handle it. The names are directly from the device. Also, what does ls /dev/hd* show? Do you have a /dev/hdb? I wish I had an IDE ZIP drive here so I could check on it myself. Mikkel Here some IDE stuff from dmesg - ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot :00:07.1 PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1420-0x1427, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1428-0x142f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: Maxtor 51536H2, ATA DISK drive hdb: WDC WD1200JB-00EVA0, ATA DISK drive Using anticipatory io scheduler ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-451S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI Floppy, ATAPI FLOPPY drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 - ls /dev/h* /dev/hda /dev/hdb /dev/hdb2 /dev/hdb6 /dev/hdc /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1 /dev/hdb5 /dev/hdb7 I guess I need an hdd, which is what I used in 9.2, but it was their at 9.2 installation. How should I create hdd, and what should my fstab entry be? I am using fat32 format on the disk. Should I format it to something else? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
On Thursday 10 February 2005 11:12 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 09 Feb 2005 20:02, Mike Adolf wrote: After installing 10.1 my zip was not recognized, no entry in fstab. Tried to create device using Create New/Device/Zip Device from the desktop (right click). An icon appeared but it won't mount (as root). Tried to create a device using makedev /dev/hdd4 (4 since I want vfat and windows uses partion 4?). I did not see when it happened but now I have two zip icons on the desktop. After reboot they are still there and now there is no hdd4 in dev. What the !*^% is going on. How do I get rid of those icons and start over? Have you tried running HardDrake? I think there's an option on a button to scan for zip drives. There is something of a problem still with removable drives and 2.6 kernels, though, as the name for removable drives keeps changing if you unplug and re-plug later. It clears itself in time, though. Still, that's probably your *next* problem, not the current one :-) Anne What type of ZIP drive is this? USB, IDE, SCSI? Parellel Port? From the /dev/hdd4, I would guess an IDE device, but I don't like to guess. In any case, under 10.1 with udev, a device made with makedev will not survive a reboot. You have to create a udev rune for it, if there isn't one. For most plug-in devices, hotplug and udev are susposed to work togethter to create the device, and mount it, on the fly. It sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't. Growling pains... I like udev, even with the bugs, because it will let you create rules for creating specific devices names for specific devices. I am still working out all the details, but I can make it work with supermount to handle my USB to IDE interface, and it should be fairly easy to make the same setup work with USB ZIP drive. If you can send me the output lsusb with the ZIP drive plugged in, and were you want it mounted, I can create rules for you. The only drawback is that with supermount controlling the device, the icon shows on the desktop even if the device is not plugged in, or if there isn't a disk in it. Like I said, I am still working on the details - I want the mount points and icons to be created and removed on the fly. But using a specific udev rule for the device gets around the changing SCSI device when hotplugging devices - the udev name you pick is always the same. (I don't know what happens when you have 2 of the same USB devices, and plug them in at the same time - I don't have the hardware to test this...) Mikkel My Zip 100 is internal IDE. lsusb output shows my printer and empty port. Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:0801 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus CX5200 Bus 001 Device 001: ID : The zip worked in 9.2 with no tweaking. What is supermount anyway?? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
On Thursday 10 February 2005 05:15 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: On Thursday 10 February 2005 11:12 am, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 09 Feb 2005 20:02, Mike Adolf wrote: After installing 10.1 my zip was not recognized, no entry in fstab. Tried to create device using Create New/Device/Zip Device from the desktop (right click). An icon appeared but it won't mount (as root). Tried to create a device using makedev /dev/hdd4 (4 since I want vfat and windows uses partion 4?). I did not see when it happened but now I have two zip icons on the desktop. After reboot they are still there and now there is no hdd4 in dev. What the !*^% is going on. How do I get rid of those icons and start over? -[ SNIP ] My Zip 100 is internal IDE. lsusb output shows my printer and empty port. Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b8:0801 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus CX5200 Bus 001 Device 001: ID : The zip worked in 9.2 with no tweaking. What is supermount anyway?? Mike Supermount is a program that handles automounting of removable drives. It is usualy used for CD's and floppies, but it should handle your ZIP drive as well. But it does need the device. Now, udev is susposed to be creating devices for the IDE devices it finds. I am not sure why it isn't in this case. It is going to require some research... Could you do something for me? In /etc/udev/scripts, there is a script called ide-devfs.sh. Could you post the output of this script with and without a disk in the ZIP drive? It could be that the device for the ZIP drive is being created as something other then a /dev/hdx... Mikkel Output of ide-devfs.sh WITHOUT disk in drive ide/host-1/bus1/target/lun0/part ide/hd/c-1b1tu0p discs/disc-1/part WITH disk in drive ide/host-1/bus1/target/lun0/part ide/hd/c-1b1tu0p discs/disc-1/part no difference! My machine has primary and secondary IDE ribbons with two devices on each. Ribbon1: Lite On DVD writer and Zip 100 Ribbon2: Floppy and second hard drive. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
On Thursday 10 February 2005 07:33 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: On Thursday 10 February 2005 05:15 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: It could be that the device for the ZIP drive is being created as something other then a /dev/hdx... Mikkel Output of ide-devfs.sh WITHOUT disk in drive ide/host-1/bus1/target/lun0/part ide/hd/c-1b1tu0p discs/disc-1/part WITH disk in drive ide/host-1/bus1/target/lun0/part ide/hd/c-1b1tu0p discs/disc-1/part no difference! My machine has primary and secondary IDE ribbons with two devices on each. Ribbon1: Lite On DVD writer and Zip 100 Ribbon2: Floppy and second hard drive. Mike I have a fealing that the IDE ZIP drive is being treated as an IDE floppy. I think the way to find out is to run: ls -l /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/ This should be the ZIP drive is I have figured it right. I don't have anything as the slave on the second controller, but I have a DVD as master, and this is what I get... [EMAIL PROTECTED] scripts]$ ls -l /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/ total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Feb 10 09:13 cd - ../../../../../hdc Another thing that may be usefull is to look at the /sys/bus/ide/drivers dirctory, and see what directories are there. Between this info, and the info from the ls command, we should be able to use udevinfo to get everything we need to write a rule for how we want to handle the ZIP drive. Mikkel There is no target1 in bus1 only a target0. If I run the ls -l ... with target0, I get exactly what you do. By the way, all other IDE devices work. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] trouble mounting zip drive
After installing 10.1 my zip was not recognized, no entry in fstab. Tried to create device using Create New/Device/Zip Device from the desktop (right click). An icon appeared but it won't mount (as root). Tried to create a device using makedev /dev/hdd4 (4 since I want vfat and windows uses partion 4?). I did not see when it happened but now I have two zip icons on the desktop. After reboot they are still there and now there is no hdd4 in dev. What the !*^% is going on. How do I get rid of those icons and start over? MIke Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Dual layer DVD recommendations?
On Monday 07 February 2005 03:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 07 Feb 2005 02:56, Marek Pawinski wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: Any recommendations (or horror stories) for a dual layer DVD drives? I am looking at the Sony DAU 710A ($90 - $100) and the LiteOn SOHW-1213S. ($80). Mike The Sony DRU-710A works fine on MDK 10.1 and burns double layer no problem with k3b. Takes about 45 minutes to burn 8.5 Gig. Could you put an entry into the HardwareCompatibility page, Mike? And perhaps add Bryan's bit about the tools version being important? Anne How does one do that? The page I looked at was http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/hardware.php3. I did a search for any compatible dvd writer. It only found 3! I did not see an obvious place to make an entry. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Dual layer DVD recommendations?
Any recommendations (or horror stories) for a dual layer DVD drives? I am looking at the Sony DAU 710A ($90 - $100) and the LiteOn SOHW-1213S. ($80). Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Minor irritation
Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] Minor irritation Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 21:56:07 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 06 Feb 2005 22:28, Paul wrote: On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 19:12, Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My users can't change their icons in the login screen. As I understand it, any user should be able to do this for their own account, but when they try they get a message that the administrator has disabled it. What needs changing? Anne, I've never tried it before, but I had no problem going from the panel to system Configuration KDE Password user account. Hadn't realised there was capabilities for putting other pics in there. For some strange reason that works on my 10.0 box but not on the 10.1 box. Anne Anne, I'm noting the same behavior here with 10.1..same admin disabled message. Sorry I can't be of help to resolve it. Best regards. --Angus Open up a xterm(or what ever you prefer) su to root and type [root]# kcontrol SystemLogin ManagerUsersUser Image Source and select (User) or (User,Admin) apply settings and you should be good to go. The default was (Admin) on mine, and I got the same as you folks. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Qt Question
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 08:25 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: I am doing a Qt 3 tutorial and it uses casts like Q_UNIT32, Q_ UNIT16 Does any one know what header is needed for compilation? Mike NEVERMIND!! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KPPP fail in Mdk 9.1
On Thursday 03 February 2005 12:25 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Mike Adolf wrote: On Wednesday 02 February 2005 01:54 am, Miroslav Skoric wrote: Gentle folks, I use KPPP to dial-in my ISP. Whenever I dial-up for the first time (after the system boot up), the link gets broken and the next time the link is fine. Of course, using the proper username and password both tries. Is there any reason why it doesn't accomplish the negotiation with ISP's systems at first? I don't change any params and just dial-up the second time and then the connection is ok. Misko I had the same problem with wvdial, it would not work on the first attempt after a boot. KPPP would never work. I think this also happened with SUse 9.1 personnel. I switched dial-up providers and the problem went away! Mike It sounds like a timing problem. Possible it is taking your system too long to get everyting loaded the first time, and the reply to the other system's loging request times out. Or it could be a problem I had, where the same dialup modem bank was shared by several ISPs, and the connection was timing out while trying to validate my login with the ISP's RAS server. To fix that, I had to increase the timout delay from the default 60 to 120 in the ppp settings. (It shouldn't take 2 minutes to make the connection.) I have not done it in kppp, but I know there is a timeout option in ifup-ppp and wvdial when using those connection methods, so I would guess kppp has one too. Mikkel I don't have the problem any more. I now enjoy a high speed microwave link! When I had the problem, I also raised my timout--didn't help. Also, I believe any good ISP should be able to connect within 30 sec. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Need C++ help!
I am relatively new at C++/QT and I can't get the following to compile.
Note the declaration of the operator overload in class Employee. If instead
I put the implementation here, it compiles. But if the impmentation is
placed outside of the class declaration as is done below, I get the following
errors: (errors point to the implementation code)
(1) QDataStream Employee::operator(QDataStream, const Employee)' must
take exactly one argument
(2) `QDataStream Employee::operator(QDataStream, const Employee)' member
function declared in class `Employee'
What's wrong with the implementation? It's driving me nuts.
#include iostream
#include qstring.h
#include qvaluelist.h
#include qdatastream.h
#include qfile.h
class Employee
{
// DECLARATION
friend QDataStream operator(QDataStream , const Employee );
public:
Employee(): sn(0) {}
Employee( const QString forename, const QString surname, int
salary )
: fn(forename), sn(surname), sal(salary)
{}
QString forename() const { return fn; }
QString surname() const { return sn; }
int salary() const { return sal; }
void setSalary( int salary ) { sal = salary; }
private:
QString fn;
QString sn;
int sal;
};
// IMPLEMENTATION
QDataStream Employee :: operator(QDataStream out, const Employee emp) {
out emp.surname() emp.forename() emp.salary();
return out;
}
int main ()
{
typedef QValueListEmployee EmployeeList;
EmployeeList list;
list.append( Employee(John, Doe, 5) );
list.append( Employee(Jane, Williams, 8) );
list.append( Employee(Tom, Jones, 6) );
Employee mary( Mary, Hawthorne, 9 );
list.append( mary );
mary.setSalary( 10 );
QFile file(test.out);
file.open(IO_WriteOnly);
QDataStream out(file);
out.setVersion(5);
out (Q_UINT32) 0x98c58f26;
EmployeeList::iterator it;
for ( it = list.begin(); it != list.end(); ++it )
out *it;
//out (*it).surname() ,
//(*it).forename() earns
//(*it).salary() \n;
file.close();
return 0L;
}
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[newbie] Qt Question
I am doing a Qt 3 tutorial and it uses casts like Q_UNIT32, Q_ UNIT16 Does any one know what header is needed for compilation? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KPPP fail in Mdk 9.1
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 01:54 am, Miroslav Skoric wrote: Gentle folks, I use KPPP to dial-in my ISP. Whenever I dial-up for the first time (after the system boot up), the link gets broken and the next time the link is fine. Of course, using the proper username and password both tries. Is there any reason why it doesn't accomplish the negotiation with ISP's systems at first? I don't change any params and just dial-up the second time and then the connection is ok. Misko I had the same problem with wvdial, it would not work on the first attempt after a boot. KPPP would never work. I think this also happened with SUse 9.1 personnel. I switched dial-up providers and the problem went away! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Lilo and new kernel
I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 31 Jan 2005 20:14, mike wrote: I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. If I understand you correctly you are wanting to keep your old lilo.conf, so that you can copy/use settings after you have installed 10.1. Correct? Why not open lilo.conf and save to lilo.conf.old? That way the install will find lilo.conf as it expects, but you will still have an intact copy. I use this whenever I know I'm going to do something that will overwrite an important config file. It's also good to save originals, such as the smb.conf which gives so much helpful info. I save it as smb.conf.orig before I start editing. Anne Anne, yes thats kinda what I'm talking about. 10.1 is already installed I'm just updating the kernel on it. Basiclly I want to have it simple to update kernels on both 10.0 and 10.1 (like it was before,as mentioned above). Right now what it looks like I'll have to do is update the kernel on the 10.1 side (after I restored the lilo.conf of course) then create an entry for my 10.0 side so I can boot to that after running lilo on the 10.1. I guess I can create /mnt/ entry on both sides then alternate lilo's each time I update kernels on either side. :-) Starting to get confusing. Anyways seemed simpler when the kernel would install without complaining about not finding the bootloader. At least in my circumstance. I know this is Way out in left field but since I'm not dependent on 10.1 yet I wonder if I should try to force the kernel install and see if it works. something to consider...maybe. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike If you post your lilo.conf for 10.1, I can tell you what is wrong. From the error message, I suspect that the lable from your default=lable statment does not match any lable=label statment. So lilo dosent know what to do if it times out, or if you just hit Enter. If you run lilo -v, it will give you more information about what it is doing. Mikkel You were right on the mark Mikkel, I did change the label. Here's my lilo.conf. I'll correct the label and give it another try. default=linux boot=/dev/hda1 map=/boot/map keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent vga=788 read-only I'll correct the label and give it another try. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo and new kernel... Success!
mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: mike wrote: I have 1 harddrive and 10.0mdk and 10.1mdk installed on it. I use lilo as my boot manager and installed in mbr. The lilo.conf on my 10.0 side is the one I use and have a entry like so in my lilo.conf for 10.1 side... image=/mnt/mdk101/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/mnt/mdk101/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=no vga=788 read-only I have renamed my lilo.conf in the 10.1 side to something else, so when I update the kernel on the 10.1 side it could not run lilo (and write over the conf I have on the 10.0 side). Which has worked on previous version's of mdk for me. But, not this time. Now when I updated the kernel on the 10.1 side it would not do it because (error 16 could not find boot loader), which is correct because I renamed the conf file. This way of doing has worked up to now for me but perhaps no longer. Any suggestions or advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Why not, in the 10.1 lilo.conf, change boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1. This way, lilo in 10.1 will write its boot loader, and information to the boot record of the root partition, instead of the MBR. Mikkel, this sounds like what I'm looking for. But I am struggling with it so far. I changed boot=/dev/hda to boot=/dev/hda1 on my 10.1 lilo.conf and ran lilo but I recieve and error at the end something like Fatal, unable to find default image. Do I need to install lilo into /dev/hda1 ? For the 10.1 side that is. If you want to keep your current setup, you can then copy the changes from 10.1's lilo.conf to your mail lilo.conf. Or, if you don't mind seeing 2 boot loaders when running 10.1, you could change the 10.1 entry to something like: other=/dev/hda1 label=Mandrake-10.1 When you pick that entry, it will transfer control to the 10.1 boot loader. If you wanted to, you could turn off the splash screen, and the prompt, and give it a timeout of 10 seconds, before it boots. This is enough time to hit a key, and interrupt the boot sequence if you need to. Otherwise, a 10 second delay when booting 10.1 would not be too noticeable. Mikkel Your first option sounds like the one I want go with. If possible. Thanks, Mike If you post your lilo.conf for 10.1, I can tell you what is wrong. From the error message, I suspect that the lable from your default=lable statment does not match any lable=label statment. So lilo dosent know what to do if it times out, or if you just hit Enter. If you run lilo -v, it will give you more information about what it is doing. Mikkel You were right on the mark Mikkel, I did change the label. Here's my lilo.conf. I'll correct the label and give it another try. default=linux boot=/dev/hda1 map=/boot/map keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux10.1 root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent vga=788 read-only I'll correct the label and give it another try. Mike Worked out great! Was able to update kernel easily with no errors just what I was looking for. Thanks again, Mikkel Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.1 install problem
Just installed 10.1 Official on a compac preserio. The installation video appeared normal during installation, but when I rebooted I just got a black screen. How does one even begin to solve that kind of problem? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 install problem
On Sunday 30 January 2005 08:28 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Sunday 30 January 2005 03:45 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: Just installed 10.1 Official on a compac preserio. The installation video appeared normal during installation, but when I rebooted I just got a black screen. How does one even begin to solve that kind of problem? Mike Put the first CD in and reboot, then choose the upgrade 10.1 and let it go to the last screen, then choose screen resolution and try resetting to a lower color setting like 16bpp or less, run a test and see if you get the rainbow. If so you will have a useable config and you can go to finish. and reboot. Thanks for the reply. I did as you suggested. The resolution was at 1024x786 (or something like that) and the color was already set at 16bpp, which was the smallest of available choices. I change the resolution to 1024x480, the next smaller choice. After reboot, KDE came up, but the smaller resolution is unworkable. I used harddrake to reset it back to 1024x786, rebooted, and got the same black screen. This is a dual boot with XP and XP works fine with the higher res. I have another monitor to try, but if that doesn't do it, I guess that 10.1 doesn't work with the graphics card, Intel 185. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:46:19 -0600 On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:27 pm, Mike Chalmers wrote: From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote: Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main / , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages. This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very likely demand other packages ad infinitum. So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu. You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what version? If not what does it use? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ It uses xorgx11 I think it is called. It is basically xfree86 but a branch that uses the original GNU license. XFree86 changed their license and made it a bit of a problem as far as free and open source folks are concerned. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com On the ATI website they have drivers for X.org. The problem is they are for the Xorg 6.8 and Mandrake 10.1 uses Xorg 6.7. Has Mandrake updated to Xorg 6.8 yet? If not are they planning to? From, Mike Chalmers _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] What is happening with XFree86.
I had a couple of questions about XFree86 and was hoping that someone could answer them. -What is happening? -Are they still open source? -Is it that they are not dealing with major distibutions anymore? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] ATI Drivers :- Was need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: [newbie] ATI Drivers :- Was need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:48:55 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: HUGE SNIP Mike I have deliberately 'hijacked' this thread because, I think you may be losing sight of what you are trying to achieve. This thread was started because your ATI Radeon video card was running very slowly and you hoped a new kernel might improve it. I did point out that there are proprietary ATI drivers for Radeon cards that will not be present in **any** kernel you obtain from Mandrake or kernel.org You can apply the ATI drivers to your current kernel by getting the drivers from ATI directly, but to make things easier Mandrake have already compiled drivers and make them available through Mandrake Club. Perhaps an ATI user could comment and tell Mike how to get the correct drivers working either on his existing Mandrake 10.0, or on 10.1? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com The ones I have installed numerous times are the ATI Linux drivers from ATI. They didn't work so that is why I am trying to update the kernel. Thnks. From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:20:13 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on? Yes Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? Thnks. Mike Chalmers In Linux all system commands are only available to the system administrator (root user). We call this 'security'. A word that will be unfamiliar to anyone coming from a Windows environment ;-) When you use the graphical software installer it will prompt you for the root password so it can invoke urpmi on your behalf. When using urpmi on the command line you must become root user first with the command 'su' (SuperUser). derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote: Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages. This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very likely demand other packages ad infinitum. So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu. You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what version? If not what does it use? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
(I cleaned up the post to make it easier to read. From, Mike) To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :- For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel') I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone. Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel) To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0. If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages that get stuck in circular dependency. I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Derek, Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need a reply on that. Thanks, Mike Chalmers ***The post about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on this. _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 missing icons
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 09:22 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 25 January 2005 09:58 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:21, Mike Adolf wrote: I was doing the QT designer tutorial, it directed me to browse to locate an icon called tabwidget.png. This icon and others used in the tutorial are not in my installation of 10.1, which includes the development packages. All autoupdates were also run during installation. Is this an oversite on the part of the release makers? Does any body have these icons or know where to get them. Goolging produced a couple of locations such as: /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kommander and $QTDIR/app/qt/tools/designer/examples/colortool/images QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 which I also do not have. Mike Have you tried kfind = tabwidget.png to see if it might be living in a different location? ~ $ locate -i tabwidget |grep png /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKTabWidget__inherit_ _graph.png /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKTabWidget__coll__gr aph.png /usr/share/doc/qt-3.3.3/doc/html/qtabwidget-m.png /usr/share/doc/qt-3.3.3/doc/html/qtabwidget-w.png (This is on a 10.2 system, but 10.1 should be the same) Spoke too soon. The above png files are large pics for html documentation. Thanks just the same. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1 missing icons
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 09:22 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 25 January 2005 09:58 pm, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 11:21, Mike Adolf wrote: I was doing the QT designer tutorial, it directed me to browse to locate an icon called tabwidget.png. This icon and others used in the tutorial are not in my installation of 10.1, which includes the development packages. All autoupdates were also run during installation. Is this an oversite on the part of the release makers? Does any body have these icons or know where to get them. Goolging produced a couple of locations such as: /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kommander and $QTDIR/app/qt/tools/designer/examples/colortool/images QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 which I also do not have. Mike Have you tried kfind = tabwidget.png to see if it might be living in a different location? ~ $ locate -i tabwidget |grep png /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKTabWidget__inherit_ _graph.png /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKTabWidget__coll__gr aph.png /usr/share/doc/qt-3.3.3/doc/html/qtabwidget-m.png /usr/share/doc/qt-3.3.3/doc/html/qtabwidget-w.png (This is on a 10.2 system, but 10.1 should be the same) The tutorial calls out different looking images, but the ones you found above will do just fine. Thanks Mike. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:32:28 + On Wednesday 26 January 2005 03:48, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. SNIP Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need a reply on that. Thanks, Mike Chalmers ***The post about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on this. I had already given instructions on how to install the Mandrake 2.6.8 kernel. Just click on the link above using konqueror, find the kernel you want to install and click on it. That will invoke 'gurpmi' which is a little graphical application which will use urpmi to download and install it for you. (I am not sure, but this kernel may say it needs to install another package called 'udev', in which case upgrading to 10.1 may be a better alternative) If you wanted to upgrade to 10.1 the easiest way is to simply obtain the 10.1 install CDs and choose the 'upgrade' option when you boot from the CD. Everything is then taken care of for you. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Derek, I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on? Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? Thnks. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Samba Newbie!
On Monday 24 January 2005 06:09 am, et wrote: On Sunday 23 January 2005 04:22 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: On Sunday 23 January 2005 02:19 pm, Siposs Attila wrote: 2005. január 23. 17.12 dátummal Mike Adolf ezt írta: I recently went to 10.1 and now would like to set up a simple home network consisting of: Dlink DI-514 router connected to my linux box (it has my cloned mac) XP wireless labtop Another XP 10/100 connected machine. I would like to: share printer (connected to my linux box) share files between all machines What I know--not much 1. I setup private IPs in the router. (I am assuming router firewall is sufficient). 2. All machines have internet access via router. 3. I can ping machines from my machine by ip and name (I've populated the hosts file) 4 I can only ping by ip from the XP machines. (I guess I need a DNS ??, How??) 5. Using mdk control center, sbm mount points, search for servers shows the other machines, but I can't connect. (no domain?) 6. Using XP network wizzard, seems to want a 10/100 connection not a wireless. 7. The more I read the less I know. What do I do on my box? What do I do on the XP machines? Mike 1. install samba server and client, and smb4k packages if they are not installed. 2. goto Mandrake Control Center and in section servers configure your samba server by the wizard. don't worry, it's easy 3. start smb4k for browsing windows machines 4. on win machines try to browse the local network. you should see your linux share as Samba Server ... 5. enjoy :) Ati I installed drakwizard and now have the samba server wizard. I configured samba to share my printer and a public folder. However, from XP I can't see the printer or the public folder. I tried adding a printer from XP by letting it look for one. It only found the windows work group containing the local machine. I identified the windows work group to samba. What now.? Mike create samba users (as root) with smbpasswd giving them the same names and passwords as the windows users on the windows boxes Got it working! Thanks. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:14:42 + On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compil ing-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek Derek, I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far behind it may fix the problem. If I can't use the 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks. From, Mike Chalmers To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :- For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel') I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone. Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel) To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0. If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages that get stuck in circular dependency. I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update
[newbie] 10.1 missing icons
I was doing the QT designer tutorial, it directed me to browse to locate an icon called tabwidget.png. This icon and others used in the tutorial are not in my installation of 10.1, which includes the development packages. All autoupdates were also run during installation. Is this an oversite on the part of the release makers? Does any body have these icons or know where to get them. Goolging produced a couple of locations such as: /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kommander and $QTDIR/app/qt/tools/designer/examples/colortool/images QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3 which I also do not have. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Installing only the kernel.
Will someone tell me how to install only the kernel from www.kernel.org? From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] bash: urpmi.addmedia not found
Andy Yankovich wrote: when I go to the site easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and, at step 3, add the suggested command into a terminal/konsole I get bash: urpmi.addmedia. comand not found. Can someone tell me what went wrong and how do I fix it. Thanks, Andy You need to be root. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Samba Newbie!
I recently went to 10.1 and now would like to set up a simple home network consisting of: Dlink DI-514 router connected to my linux box (it has my cloned mac) XP wireless labtop Another XP 10/100 connected machine. I would like to: share printer (connected to my linux box) share files between all machines What I know--not much 1. I setup private IPs in the router. (I am assuming router firewall is sufficient). 2. All machines have internet access via router. 3. I can ping machines from my machine by ip and name (I've populated the hosts file) 4 I can only ping by ip from the XP machines. (I guess I need a DNS ??, How??) 5. Using mdk control center, sbm mount points, search for servers shows the other machines, but I can't connect. (no domain?) 6. Using XP network wizzard, seems to want a 10/100 connection not a wireless. 7. The more I read the less I know. What do I do on my box? What do I do on the XP machines? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Test -- ignore
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Re: [newbie] Samba Newbie!
On Sunday 23 January 2005 02:19 pm, Siposs Attila wrote: 2005. január 23. 17.12 dátummal Mike Adolf ezt írta: I recently went to 10.1 and now would like to set up a simple home network consisting of: Dlink DI-514 router connected to my linux box (it has my cloned mac) XP wireless labtop Another XP 10/100 connected machine. I would like to: share printer (connected to my linux box) share files between all machines What I know--not much 1. I setup private IPs in the router. (I am assuming router firewall is sufficient). 2. All machines have internet access via router. 3. I can ping machines from my machine by ip and name (I've populated the hosts file) 4 I can only ping by ip from the XP machines. (I guess I need a DNS ??, How??) 5. Using mdk control center, sbm mount points, search for servers shows the other machines, but I can't connect. (no domain?) 6. Using XP network wizzard, seems to want a 10/100 connection not a wireless. 7. The more I read the less I know. What do I do on my box? What do I do on the XP machines? Mike 1. install samba server and client, and smb4k packages if they are not installed. 2. goto Mandrake Control Center and in section servers configure your samba server by the wizard. don't worry, it's easy 3. start smb4k for browsing windows machines 4. on win machines try to browse the local network. you should see your linux share as Samba Server ... 5. enjoy :) Ati I installed drakwizard and now have the samba server wizard. I configured samba to share my printer and a public folder. However, from XP I can't see the printer or the public folder. I tried adding a printer from XP by letting it look for one. It only found the windows work group containing the local machine. I identified the windows work group to samba. What now.? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] need help patching kernel
I currently have kernel 2.6.3-7mdk installed. I want to update to 2.6.10. I downloaded the file patch-2.6.10.bz2 from kernel.org. I also installed patch-2.5.9-2mdk.i586.rpm. I don't know how to install the 2.6.10 patch. Will someone tell me the command to use to update the kernel to 2.6.10. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] What is urpmi?
Will someone tell me what urpmi is? From, Mike Chalmers _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] What is urpmi? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:10:19 + On Sunday 23 January 2005 23:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: Will someone tell me what urpmi is? From, Mike Chalmers _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 It is Mandrakes Package management system. It can be used on the command line, and is also used by the Mandrake Software Management GUIs. Follow the link to the Wiki in my sig for full details. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I think I see what you are saying. If I wanted to install a program such as xdesktopwaves it will tell me that I need to have gcc installed and it will install the Mandrake gcc rpm file for me. Is urpmi only for Mandrake? Is what I am thinking correct? From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
From: Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] What is urpmi? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:47:10 +0100 On Monday 24 January 2005 00:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: Will someone tell me what urpmi is? OK, before I fall asleep : All Open Source software is available as *source code*, i.e. written text. As such an application can be downloaded to your hard drive. Then, you face the challenge to compile it. That's not for the faint-at-heart, because inevitably you'll run into the cumbersome *dependency hell*. Which means that your desired application needs other applications in order to compile. - But it is doable. To make things a little easier, RedHat developed a method called *rpm* (RedhatPackageManager). This means pre-compiled, binary collections of files, constituting an application. Of course, there's a trade-off here : in order to install correctly, the system must be configured in pre-defined ways, such as per distribution (Red Hat). But the *rpm* packages do not resolve the *dependency* problem. This means, that when you install a *.rpm* you'll have to install other *.rpms* first. The procedure will tell you which ones. But this is time-consuming. Then, another distribution (Debian) invented a smarter method : the *apt-get* procedure. Here, all dependencies are resolved, and when you type : *apt-get -install application* the dependencies are resolved, downloaded, installed prior to the application itself. Very smart and efficient. These packages have the extension *deb*. Originally, Mandrake was derived from RedHat. The main difference was the Graphical User Interface (GUI). Where RedHat used Gnome, Mandrake used KDE. That doesn't matter, it is a question of personal liking. But Mandrake uses *rpm*. Now, in order to be as user-friendly as Debian, the Mandrake developers invented *urpmi*. I honestly don't know what *u* stands for, but a qualified guess would be *Uniform Redhat Package Manager Installer* - or some such. Anyway, it is really, really smart. The only pre-requisite to using *urpmi* is that you have defined some *sources*. Which means that you'll have to find some servers to supply you. That's easy as well : Go to : http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ And follow instructions EXACTLY. You can choose a multitude of servers for each category (main, contrib, updates,plf), but not all servers get updated regularly, so please experiment. As a rule of thumb : select servers on the other side of the globe, because they tend to be idle when you are awake ;-) This accomplished, installing software is as easy as it gets : 1. The GUI method : Just click the *System--Configuration--Packaging--Install Software* or (and that's the way we prefer here, because you can see what's going on) : 2. Open a terminal (Konsole), type *su*, give root-password and type : *urpmi application*. You'll love it. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I'm still learning. I haven't had much trouble with the rpm. Just rpm --install filename.rpm, and ect. It is alot to know, thanks. From, Mike Chalmers _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] What is urpmi? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:49:46 + On Monday 24 January 2005 00:30, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP I think I see what you are saying. If I wanted to install a program such as xdesktopwaves it will tell me that I need to have gcc installed and it will install the Mandrake gcc rpm file for me. Is urpmi only for Mandrake? Is what I am thinking correct? From, Mike Chalmers urpmi is authored by MandrakeSoft, but being GPL any distro could use it. It is a wrapper to rpm which is authored by RedHat. Major distros like Suse and Debian have their own package management systems. You will hear how Debians 'apt-get' is the best package management system around. IMO urpmi is comparable. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com That is what I was wondering. Does Mandrake have it's on urpmi site? From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:57:48 -0500 On Sunday 23 January 2005 18:39, Mike Chalmers wrote: I currently have kernel 2.6.3-7mdk installed. I want to update to 2.6.10. I downloaded the file patch-2.6.10.bz2 from kernel.org. I also installed patch-2.5.9-2mdk.i586.rpm. I don't know how to install the 2.6.10 patch. Will someone tell me the command to use to update the kernel to 2.6.10. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] man, man, man
Michaël Van Dorpe wrote: If you are using KDE then enter #rpm in the Konqueror URL line and you will see the manual. oh, that looks much better! Thank you, I'll use Konqueror for this from now on... Also, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# xman Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:19:03 + On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com So you are saying that there is not a Mandrake 2.6.10 kernel yet? I have an ATI 9800 video card and it is very very slow with the fglrx driver installed. I thought patching the kernel might could fix this slow problem. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:19:03 + On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Derek, I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far behind it may fix the problem. If I can't use the 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks. From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Julie Sloan wrote: Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 21 January 2005 02:13 pm, Julie Sloan wrote: fine so far, but then !AAACK!! restarting urpmi One of the following packages is needed: 1- masqmail-0.2.18-3mdk.i586 : Offline Mail Transfert Agent (to install) 2- ssmtp-2.60.7-1mdk.i586 : A minimal mail-transfer agent which forwards mail to an SMTP server. (to install) 3- postfix-2.1.4-2mdk.i586 : Postfix Mail Transport Agent (to install) 4- sendmail-8.13.1-1mdk.i586 : A widely used Mail Transport Agent (MTA) (to install) What is your choice? (1-4) 4 To satisfy dependencies, the following 556 packages are going to be installed (1088 MB): I am on dialup. 22Mb takes an hour and a half. Do I need 1088 additional Mb?? You don't need AFAIK any of those packages kmail workks a lot better for most of us Mozilla thunderbird is also very good KMail and Kontact will not open. My addressbook is in KMail. I am using Mozilla now, and that is fine, but I need to get into KMail to get my addresses and contact information! There should be a text file with that info in your ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/addressbook or something like that I don't use kmail. Open it in a terminal and you should have your info. Cannot get into MCC No screensavers Gnome desktop is completely blank (no icons) Soundserver ? crashes on reboot LOL what fun this is Julie Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Network Traffic Meter
Elwyn wrote: On Monday 17 Jan 2005 02:32, Dennis Myers wrote: On Sunday 16 January 2005 01:27 pm, Elwyn wrote: Thank you for all your replies. I have noticed a lot of the messages came direct rather than to the email list... I have gone for Gkrellm and it seems to the job and a few others as well :) Cheers Elwyn You have your reply to: set to yourself not newbie. HTH I don't understand. My reply to address has been blanked out. I can't set it to Newbie as all my other email would go there as well wouldn't it! You look like you have it set correctly now :-) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] enigmail
Charles Lee Ying wrote: mike wrote: I have a problem with decrypting my sent messages. Been expermenting with gnupg. When I send a signed and encrypted message to someone who has my key they get it and can read it fine and I have their key and can decrypt an encrypted message from them. But when I go to my *Sent* box click on a encripted message that I sent, I cannot decrypt it? Heres the error. gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available Does this mean I don't have access to my own secret key? Mdk 10.0 Mozilla 1.7 Enigmail 0.84.2.0 GnuPG v1.2.4 New to this, any ideas? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Hey Mike, you guessed correctly. This is the way the program works. Supposedly you should still have access to the original message before it was encrypted. Charles Thanks Charles, thought I might of had something configured wrong. I'll look into having a copy before it was encrypted. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: enigmail
mike wrote: I have a problem with decrypting my sent messages. Been expermenting with gnupg. When I send a signed and encrypted message to someone who has my key they get it and can read it fine and I have their key and can decrypt an encrypted message from them. But when I go to my *Sent* box click on a encripted message that I sent, I cannot decrypt it? Heres the error. gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available Does this mean I don't have access to my own secret key? Mdk 10.0 Mozilla 1.7 Enigmail 0.84.2.0 GnuPG v1.2.4 New to this, any ideas? Mike Well found the answer. Working with someone off list, turns out I needed (encrypt to self) box checked under preferences. According to enigmail's documentation you have to encrypt it with both the recipients and your key if you want to read what you sent. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: enigmail
Charles Lee Ying wrote: mike wrote: mike wrote: I have a problem with decrypting my sent messages. Been expermenting with gnupg. When I send a signed and encrypted message to someone who has my key they get it and can read it fine and I have their key and can decrypt an encrypted message from them. But when I go to my *Sent* box click on a encripted message that I sent, I cannot decrypt it? Heres the error. gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available Does this mean I don't have access to my own secret key? Mdk 10.0 Mozilla 1.7 Enigmail 0.84.2.0 GnuPG v1.2.4 New to this, any ideas? Mike Well found the answer. Working with someone off list, turns out I needed (encrypt to self) box checked under preferences. According to enigmail's documentation you have to encrypt it with both the recipients and your key if you want to read what you sent. Mike Thx Mike, I learned something new today. I didn't know that was possible. Charles Me too, Charles I suppose that I lose a level of security doing it this way. Now there are two keys able decrypt the message, as opposed to just one, the recipient. But its mostly learning experience for me. Thanks again for help, Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Computer shuts off after a few seconds
mike wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: snip Mike - how about a board entry on the TWiki HardwareCompatibility page? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MotherBoards Anne Done. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] enigmail
I have a problem with decrypting my sent messages. Been expermenting with gnupg. When I send a signed and encrypted message to someone who has my key they get it and can read it fine and I have their key and can decrypt an encrypted message from them. But when I go to my *Sent* box click on a encripted message that I sent, I cannot decrypt it? Heres the error. gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available Does this mean I don't have access to my own secret key? Mdk 10.0 Mozilla 1.7 Enigmail 0.84.2.0 GnuPG v1.2.4 New to this, any ideas? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Computer shuts off after a few seconds
Scott Wagner wrote: Hello Today I put a third hard drive and an additional 256MB of ram (there were already 2 256MB sticks) in my computer, after which it would not boot. I took the new ram out and it booted ok. I took one of the original sticks out then to look at it make sure I had gotten the right kind, and replaced it. Since then when I turn the computer on it turns off right away. As soon as the fans start to turn, it cuts off. It is a 1.53 gig athlon, K7S5A motherboard, pc2100 ram. Appreciate any help. Thanks, SW That board supports only 2 sticks of pc133 *or* 2 sticks of pc2100 but *not* both or a mixture of both. Heres some info on the board that may help you. http://p199.ezboard.com/fk7s5amotherboardforumfrm5.showMessage?topicID=1200.topic I have that board, very economical :-) Been sturdy for me only problem was on-board sound did not work well until the 2.6 kernel. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Computer shuts off after a few seconds
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 15:56, mike wrote: Scott Wagner wrote: Hello Today I put a third hard drive and an additional 256MB of ram (there were already 2 256MB sticks) in my computer, after which it would not boot. I took the new ram out and it booted ok. I took one of the original sticks out then to look at it make sure I had gotten the right kind, and replaced it. Since then when I turn the computer on it turns off right away. As soon as the fans start to turn, it cuts off. It is a 1.53 gig athlon, K7S5A motherboard, pc2100 ram. Appreciate any help. Thanks, SW That board supports only 2 sticks of pc133 *or* 2 sticks of pc2100 but *not* both or a mixture of both. Heres some info on the board that may help you. http://p199.ezboard.com/fk7s5amotherboardforumfrm5.showMessage?topicID=1200 .topic I have that board, very economical :-) Been sturdy for me only problem was on-board sound did not work well until the 2.6 kernel. Mike - how about a board entry on the TWiki HardwareCompatibility page? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MotherBoards Anne Ok, see will try. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where to find 'Enemy Territory' rpms?
Edward Wijaya wrote: Hi, Does anybody know where can I find rpms for Enemy Territory games? Thanks beforehand. Plf Go to http://www.urpmi-addmedia.org and set up a plf source and you can urpmi (install) it. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi problem
SnapafunFrank wrote: mike wrote: SnapafunFrank wrote: mike wrote: SnapafunFrank wrote: And while we are on urpmi problems can someone tell me why I cannot wholly add another media to my list. I did: # urpmi.addmedia myrpms file://home/frank/MYRPMS and : # urpmi.addmedia -f myrpms file://home/frank/MYRPMS I get some entries in the /var/lib/urpmi directory but when I do : # urpmq --list-media the new media doesn't appear in the list and trying to install the rpms downloaded to the ~/MYRPMS directory, I get the 'Not found' reply. I have tried: # urpmi --update -a But this did not get my new media added either. I just tried adding a local source as you descibed above, and all turned out well. I used some rpms I downloaded. Could it possibly be something wrong with the rpms themselves. I think rpm looks at the rpm's header for info to generate the hdlist. Maybe download some different rpm's in a new directory and try adding them as locale source to see if it works. Mike I tried by moving or deleting rpms that though they went through before, this time they kept coming up with errors. [EMAIL PROTECTED] frank]# urpmi.addmedia -f myrpms /home/frank/MYRPMS/ snip added medium myrpms snip reading rpm files from [/home/frank/MYRPMS] It should of listed your package or packages here like... /var/cache/urpmi/headers/Package_Name_Version_Arch writing list file for medium myrpms building hdlist [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.myrpms.cz] choosing compression method with gzip -4 for archive /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.myrpms.cz real archive size of /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.myrpms.cz is 1707821 no info available for package flightgear at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/URPM/Build.pm line 465. As you can see - no 'myrpms' media. I have even tried a new directory with only the latest download ( and successfully installed ) rpm in it. The same thing is happening. It's driving me nuts. Unless there is a simple way of getting all my media back up should I scrap the lot and start again, well, I may as well be back fighting windows as this is the type of problem I left windows for. Any other ideas anyone? You can try this and see if it works. [root]# urpmi.removemedia myrpms [root]# urpmi.addmedia -f -c myrpms file://home/frank/MYRPMS Mike That worked bang on Mike. Thanks. I believe I had tried the switches but quite possible like this : [root]# urpmi.addmedia -fc myrpms file://home/frank/MYRPMS Whereas your way of separating them is what was needed. Back in business and greatly appreciated the assistance offered here. Bit of a learning experience for me too. Even though I was able to remove and re-add my locale source I discovered 2 of the packages was missing. I found them stuck in /var/cache/urpmi/headers/ tried the -c option and got all my packages back. Glad you got it working. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi problem
SnapafunFrank wrote: mike wrote: SnapafunFrank wrote: And while we are on urpmi problems can someone tell me why I cannot wholly add another media to my list. I did: # urpmi.addmedia myrpms file://home/frank/MYRPMS and : # urpmi.addmedia -f myrpms file://home/frank/MYRPMS I get some entries in the /var/lib/urpmi directory but when I do : # urpmq --list-media the new media doesn't appear in the list and trying to install the rpms downloaded to the ~/MYRPMS directory, I get the 'Not found' reply. I have tried: # urpmi --update -a But this did not get my new media added either. I just tried adding a local source as you descibed above, and all turned out well. I used some rpms I downloaded. Could it possibly be something wrong with the rpms themselves. I think rpm looks at the rpm's header for info to generate the hdlist. Maybe download some different rpm's in a new directory and try adding them as locale source to see if it works. Mike I tried by moving or deleting rpms that though they went through before, this time they kept coming up with errors. [EMAIL PROTECTED] frank]# urpmi.addmedia -f myrpms /home/frank/MYRPMS/ snip added medium myrpms snip reading rpm files from [/home/frank/MYRPMS] It should of listed your package or packages here like... /var/cache/urpmi/headers/Package_Name_Version_Arch writing list file for medium myrpms building hdlist [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.myrpms.cz] choosing compression method with gzip -4 for archive /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.myrpms.cz real archive size of /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.myrpms.cz is 1707821 no info available for package flightgear at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/URPM/Build.pm line 465. As you can see - no 'myrpms' media. I have even tried a new directory with only the latest download ( and successfully installed ) rpm in it. The same thing is happening. It's driving me nuts. Unless there is a simple way of getting all my media back up should I scrap the lot and start again, well, I may as well be back fighting windows as this is the type of problem I left windows for. Any other ideas anyone? You can try this and see if it works. [root]# urpmi.removemedia myrpms [root]# urpmi.addmedia -f -c myrpms file://home/frank/MYRPMS Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi problem
SnapafunFrank wrote: And while we are on urpmi problems can someone tell me why I cannot wholly add another media to my list. I did: # urpmi.addmedia myrpms file://home/frank/MYRPMS and : # urpmi.addmedia -f myrpms file://home/frank/MYRPMS I get some entries in the /var/lib/urpmi directory but when I do : # urpmq --list-media the new media doesn't appear in the list and trying to install the rpms downloaded to the ~/MYRPMS directory, I get the 'Not found' reply. I have tried: # urpmi --update -a But this did not get my new media added either. Hopefully I'm missing something 'no-brainer'. Sorry for jumping in on this thread put I thought to keep the subject matter relevant. I just tried adding a local source as you descibed above, and all turned out well. I used some rpms I downloaded. Could it possibly be something wrong with the rpms themselves. I think rpm looks at the rpm's header for info to generate the hdlist. Maybe download some different rpm's in a new directory and try adding them as locale source to see if it works. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 'nother 10.1 question
Chris wrote: Where is the konqueror file manager for root located? Its getting to be a pain to pull it up su'd to root in Eterm. Chris I dont know if this is the right way or not but I right-clicked the konqueror icon in the taskbar and selected properties---Application---Advanced Options clicked run as different user Username:root OK'ed my way out of it and clicked on it, and ran as root. Also noted clicked on text file konqueror and Kwrite came up seems like its working. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Any 'Wine' expert out there?
Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo wrote: Does anybody have any experience about Wine, how to install it and how to make it work? I've had problems with it, and the help I got from the wine-users mailing list didn't manage to solve them. I installed Wine in order to run MS Word with it, since *unfortunately* in job applications it is usually requested and used the .doc format and neither kword nor Open Office kwriter nor even abiword manage to properly read and edit MS Word documents. The installation seems to have been successful, but I don't manage to run WinWord nor do I really know how to run it. Any help will be appreciated. snip Sorry for such a long posting, but this way you (or anyone else can provide help) will have an exact idea of the situation. Any suggestions? Try Franks corner has a lot of wine help (helped me out a few times getting some games to run :-) http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=office2000 Thanks indeed for your reply, happy holidays sincerely, Rodolfo Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Desktop Icon
Newbie question: How do I create an icon (shortcut) on the desktop in KDE? All I want to do is create an icon for RDESKTOP. TIA! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Duplex printing hp deskjet 970cxi
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Monday 06 December 2004 07:18, Amy wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 13:05:57 -0700, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Deskjet 970cxi printer with a with a two sided module (looks like a double roller gadjet that fits on the back of the printer). I would like to be able to print on both sides of the paper for book or tablet printing. I found the commands for printing using manual loading of paper. But I would like to utilize the printers automatic feed through the module. I have cups installed and printer works fine. Does anyone have any experience with this printer or two sided printing? Or point me in a direction to look? I have been doing some searching and reading but not much luck yet. Thanks Mike I know when I set up my hp deskjet 6122, in order to get the duplex printing, I had to go find a module/driver/whatever you call it made specifically for the hp printers to get it to work duplex. Google is your friend here. I need to actually find it again, since I recently did a reinstall, and haven't tried to reinstall the driver. If/when I deal with that again, I'll give you links and/or names of what to look for. I do remember having to install the module/driver/whatever from source, I didn't find any nice happy rpms. But it wasn't hard, I managed to do it without one of my friends hand holding me through the process, because the site I found it on was very specific about how to do it. ^_^ Good luck. ~~ ^..^ ~~ I'm a gmail user! I'm still waiting on them to listen to my request to allow me to disable my reply-to field. If you get this message via a mailing list, please double check the to field before sending your reply. Thanks much! ^_^ ~~ ^..^ ~~ http://deathkitten.net Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind. ~Rudyard Kipling Several friends have asked me if I will again leave the country. In light of the failure--a second time--to count all the votes, that won't be necessary. My country has left me. ~Greg Palast My 6122 does duplex printing with the standard cups driver that came with Mdk. If you're using qtcups and the print widget opens for confirmation, hit the properties tab and you'll be able to select the long-side or short side there for duplex. Thanks HarM, It works! Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Duplex printing hp deskjet 970cxi
Amy wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 13:05:57 -0700, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Deskjet 970cxi printer with a with a two sided module (looks like a double roller gadjet that fits on the back of the printer). I would like to be able to print on both sides of the paper for book or tablet printing. I found the commands for printing using manual loading of paper. But I would like to utilize the printers automatic feed through the module. I have cups installed and printer works fine. Does anyone have any experience with this printer or two sided printing? Or point me in a direction to look? I have been doing some searching and reading but not much luck yet. Thanks Mike I know when I set up my hp deskjet 6122, in order to get the duplex printing, I had to go find a module/driver/whatever you call it made specifically for the hp printers to get it to work duplex. Google is your friend here. I need to actually find it again, since I recently did a reinstall, and haven't tried to reinstall the driver. If/when I deal with that again, I'll give you links and/or names of what to look for. I do remember having to install the module/driver/whatever from source, I didn't find any nice happy rpms. But it wasn't hard, I managed to do it without one of my friends hand holding me through the process, because the site I found it on was very specific about how to do it. ^_^ Good luck. ~~ ^..^ ~~ Thanks Amy, The hpijs driver is what works for my printer, and it works! mdk10.0 with cups version 1.1.20 is what I have. I had to enable it in printer configuration and select long-side or short side as HarM mention in the other reply. Its great, I don't feel so bad now when I print a howto or manpage. :-) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Duplex printing hp deskjet 970cxi
I have a Deskjet 970cxi printer with a with a two sided module (looks like a double roller gadjet that fits on the back of the printer). I would like to be able to print on both sides of the paper for book or tablet printing. I found the commands for printing using manual loading of paper. But I would like to utilize the printers automatic feed through the module. I have cups installed and printer works fine. Does anyone have any experience with this printer or two sided printing? Or point me in a direction to look? I have been doing some searching and reading but not much luck yet. Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] X Server Wont Start....
J wrote: Hi All, Had a power failure, and now this: execve failed for /etc/X11/x (errno2) giving up xinit: no such file or directory (errno2) unable to connect to x server xinit: no such process (errno3): server error Any ideas? I have tried to remove and reinstall xfree, but it wont budge... all I get is a message telling me it was not found when I give it the rpm -e command, and if I try to urpmi it back in, I get everything already installed Help!! James You could try to reconfigure your xserver, may have lost a link. [root]# xf86config (if your useing XFree) [root]# xorgconfig (if your useing Xorg) Also there is a drake tool [root]# XFdrake I did notice on mine mdk10.0 with Xorg the link is /etc/X11/X with a capital X your error shows /etc/X11/x You could look at your /etc/X11/ directory and see where the link is pointing mine looks like this X - ../../usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg* Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to switch from one linux partition to another?
Rodolfo Medina wrote: Originally before you installed 10.1, you had win98 and mandrake9.1 then you made a new installation in the free space of win98. When you did that you changed the partition table of the drive. So you need to find out which partition is what to start with. If you did default installs with /,swap,and /home win98hda1 10.1 / hda? swap hda? 10.1 /home hda? 9.1 / hda? swap hda? 9.1 /home hda? Or how ever you partitioned it 10.1 was the last one you installed so its fstab would reflect its partitons correctly. The 9.1 fstab will have to be corrected to reflect the new partitions as Mikkel mentioned in his post. Not sure about the modem driver issue but I would make sure the basics are in order first. Mike Thanks, Mike. This is the actual partition table (with just one swap partition, as suggested by Mikkel): win98hda1 10.1 / hda9 10.1 /home hda10 9.1 / hda5 swap hda6 9.1 /home hda8 . Now, this is the 10.1 /etc/fstab: /dev/hda9 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda10 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850, noauto,ro,exec,users 0 0 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom2 auto umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850, noauto,ro,exec,users 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0, iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/linux2 ext3 defaults 1 2 , and this is the 9.1 /etc/fstab: /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--, iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--, iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--, iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 . How to correct it? It looks to me like you have the partitions set correctly in you fstabs so no need for changes. Maybe you mean that in the 9.1 fstab the line /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 should be changed into /dev/hda5 /mnt/linux2 ext3 defaults 1 2 No, don't do that. ? But wouldn't this mount the /dev/hda5 into a subdirectory /mnt/linux2 of the /dev/hda5's root directory itself? (And this way create confusion?) I suspect it would create a problem. During the boot of 10.1 I read every time the following message: Mounting other filesystems: mount: none already mounted or dev/pts busy [FAILED] . Maybe the modem problem coud be related to it? I'm sending a new thread about this. Cheers, Rodolfo You said you had to reinstall the modem in your 9.1, did you get it working again? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to switch from one linux partition to another?
Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina wrote: On my 40 Gigabyte hard disk I used to have two partitions: one (30 GB) containig Windows 98 and the other (10 GB) with Linux Mandrake 9.1. Now I created a third partition with another 10 GB token off Windows, and in it I installed successfully Mandrake Community 10.1. When I boot the system I can only enter Mandrake 10.1. How to access my dear old 9.1? From within the new partition I did the following procedure (x is the old partition device number): 1) # mkdir /mnt/linux2 2) # mount /dev/hdax /mnt/linux2 3) In the file /mnt/linux2/etc/lilo.conf I changed the line boot=/dev/hda into boot=/dev/hdax 4) I got into linux2 root: # chroot /mnt/linux2 /bin/bash 5) , and there # lilo -v 6) I got back to the new partition root, and at the end of the file /etc/fstab I added the line /dev/hdax /mnt/linux2 ext3 defaults 1 2 ; then at the end of the file /etc/lilo.conf I added the following: image=/mnt/linux2/boot/vmlinuz label=linux2 root=/dev/hdax initrd=/mnt/linux2/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hday splash=no vga=788 read-only , where 'y' in hday should be the swap partition device number. 7) # lilo -v -t 8) # lilo Everything seems to have gone well, now when booting I can choose if going into linux or linux2, and the new partition has not modified the old one, except for one thing: in the old partition I have to reinstall the modem, i.e. rerun the modem driver. Why? Does anybody know? Is the above procedure correct? Maybe a bug in Mdk 10.1 Community (the new partition OS)? Thanks, Rodolfo Originally before you installed 10.1, you had win98 and mandrake9.1 then you made a new installation in the free space of win98. When you did that you changed the partition table of the drive. So you need to find out which partition is what to start with. If you did default installs with /,swap,and /home win98hda1 10.1 / hda? swap hda? 10.1 /home hda? 9.1 / hda? swap hda? 9.1 /home hda? Or how ever you partitioned it 10.1 was the last one you installed so its fstab would reflect its partitons correctly. The 9.1 fstab will have to be corrected to reflect the new partitions as Mikkel mentioned in his post. Not sure about the modem driver issue but I would make sure the basics are in order first. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to switch from one linux partition to another?
Rodolfo Medina wrote: Thanks, Duncan, thanks, Mikkel: the matter turns out to be a difficult one! Duncan wrote: All you need is to create an entry in /etc/fstab. Give it a different mount point. Copy the entry for /home and change it so that the device entry is correct and the mount point is different. Make sure that you create the directory to use as a mount point. I opened the file /etc/fstab and found the following line: /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 . Then I created the directory /mnt/hda7 and then added to /etc/fstab the following line: /dev/hda7 /mnt/hda7 ext3 defaults 1 1 . This way the Linux 9.1 partition was mounted in the /mnt/hda7 directory. I you want to have 9.1 as a boot option, you have to fiddle a bit. If you are using lilo as your boot loader, then you need to add an entry for your 9.1 setup. Copy the 9.1 kernel into /boot and run lilo. If you get no errors, then it should work. Make sure that your lilo entry contains the full name of the kernel file, not the shortened link name. I copied the file '/mnt/hda7/boot/kernel.h-2.4.21-0.13mdk' into the directory '/boot': # cp /mnt/hda7/boot/kernel.h-2.4.21-0.13mdk /boot Mikkel wrote: If you created the extra partitions by shrinking windows, you are also going to have to edit /etc/fstab and posible /etc/lilo.conf in the 9.1 partition because the partition numbers changed when you added the new partitions. In the file '/mnt/hda7/etc/fstab' I changed the line /dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1 into /dev/hda7 / ext3 defaults 1 1 , and in the file '/mnt/hda7/etc/lilo.conf' I changed the line boot=/dev/hda into boot=/dev/hda7 , and every occurence of 'root=/dev/hda5' (there were three) into 'root=/dev/hda7'. Also, another way to boot 9.1 is to boot in the rescue mode with the 9.1 CD, mount the 9.1 partition on /mnt/hda7, and run chroot /mnt/hda7 Edit /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf. Change the root= section of lilo.conf from root=/dev/hda to root=/dev/hda7. Run lilo. I logged out 10.1, inserted the 9.1 CD1, then pressed F1 and then typed '# rescue' (enter). But how to mount the 9.1 partition on '/mnt/hda7'? And when I tried to run lilo, with '# lilo', the system replied: 'bash: lilo: command not found'. Reboot to 10.1, and add to /etc/lilo.conf there this: other=/dev/hda7 label=MDK-9.1 I did so. Then run lilo. The next time you boot, you will have an option to boot 9.1. Picking this option will bring up the lilo menu you had before installing 10.1. When I run lilo, with '# lilo', I got the following output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rodolfo]# lilo Added linux * Added linux-nonfb Added failsafe Added windows Fatal: First sector of /dev/hda7 doesn't have a valid boot signature Another strange thing is that when I reboot the system the 9.1 kernel that I had copied into the /boot directory of 10.1 is no more there! What did I miss or do wrong? Cheers, Rodolfo You have a working 10.1 you could just add 9.1 to your 10.1 lilo.conf Heres an aproach that has worked for me. You can boot to your 10.1 and mount the 9.1 side. [root]# mkdir /mnt/mdk9.1 [root]# mount /dev/hda7 /mnt/mdk9.1 Now cd to /mnt/mdk9.1 and take a look make sure it is the / directory of your 9.1 and you can see /boot. If not then you need to umount it and find the right /dev/hda? and mount it to /mnt/mdk9.1 Then you'll need to create an fstab entry for it. [root]# vi /etc/fstab Or your favorite editor, and create a line like this /dev/hda7 /mnt/mdk9.1 ext3 defaults 1 2 Save the file, then create a lilo entry. [root]# vi lilo.conf The entry would be similar to below. image=/mnt/mdk9.1/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk9.1 root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/mnt/mdk9.1/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda6 splash=no vga=788 read-only and save the file then you can run lilo to test it [root]# lilo -v -t if no errors then you can write lilo [root]# lilo Then when you reboot you should have option to boot to your 9.1 Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] The new TWiki - update on log-in
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 25 Nov 2004 18:39, mike wrote: I went to http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca to have a look around. Under the main menu there is a section called Mandrake Help I seem to be able to access all the catagories except System Administration it asks for a user id and password. Is that because that catagory is under contruction? Also when attempting to view the above page as user TWikiGuest with password guest it did not accept ID and password. I'm not interested in editing or changing content, but would like to view the content for answers from time to time. Or are we going to have to register to view the TWiki site also? We are now certain that the problem is with the plugin that generates the index. It may be that there is an inconsistency with the newer version of TWiki that we are using. We've mailed the developer to ask about it, and are waiting for a reply. There doesn't seem to be much we can do for the moment, so please be patient. We are trying to fix it. Anne I understand, thanks Anne Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to switch from one linux partition to another?
Rodolfo Medina wrote: You have a working 10.1 you could just add 9.1 to your 10.1 lilo.conf Heres an aproach that has worked for me. You can boot to your 10.1 and mount the 9.1 side. [root]# mkdir /mnt/mdk9.1 [root]# mount /dev/hda7 /mnt/mdk9.1 Now cd to /mnt/mdk9.1 and take a look make sure it is the / directory of your 9.1 and you can see /boot. If not then you need to umount it and find the right /dev/hda? and mount it to /mnt/mdk9.1 Then you'll need to create an fstab entry for it. [root]# vi /etc/fstab Or your favorite editor, and create a line like this /dev/hda7 /mnt/mdk9.1 ext3 defaults 1 2 Save the file, then create a lilo entry. [root]# vi lilo.conf The entry would be similar to below. image=/mnt/mdk9.1/boot/vmlinuz label=mdk9.1 root=/dev/hda7 initrd=/mnt/mdk9.1/boot/initrd.img append=acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda6 splash=no vga=788 read-only and save the file then you can run lilo to test it [root]# lilo -v -t if no errors then you can write lilo [root]# lilo Then when you reboot you should have option to boot to your 9.1 Mike Mike's easy step by step procedure worked successfully, and now when I reboot I have option to boot on my 9.1, but with some undesired effects: when I try to connect to Internet with the command 'wvdial', as I did before, I get the message: 'Cannot open /dev/ttySL0: No such file or directory'. Besides, the command 'uname -r', which shows the kernel, outputs the 10.1 kernel and not the 9.1. Also KDE has changed: it has upgraded to the 3.2 version without I'd asked for this. I don't know if there are other such modifications, but I thought that two different linux partitions were to be independent each other, wheras I see that 10.1 has influenced 9.1. If it is so, then I can't use a second linux partition to experiment new releases and distributions, which was my real purpose. Maybe these side effects can be avoided with the more complicated procedure suggested by Mikkel? If not, the only way is buying a second hard disk on which doing experiments. Any hint about the connecting problem? Cheers, Rodolfo Rodolfo, Boot to you 10.1 and post your lilo.conf and list the contents of /boot directory and list the contents of /etc/fstab Also list the contents of /mnt/mdk9.1(hd7 or what ever you named it)/etc/fstab And we will see what is going on. The set up you want is what I have now a stable version of mdk and an experimental newer one and used to have a windows partion too, but finally got rid of that ;-) So it can be done on one disk. You can reverse what you have done, and follow Mikkel's instructions easily by see below: --- If you would like to get back to where you started from all you have to do is boot to 10.1 and remove the /etc/fstab entry you made for 9.1 /etc/lilo.conf entry you made for 9.1 unmount the /mnt/mdk9.1 you made like [root]# umount /dev/hda7 Then remove the mount point you made [root]# rmdir /mnt/mdk9.1 Then run lilo [root]# lilo -v --- Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to switch from one linux partition to another?
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Duncan Anderson wrote: Rodolfo, snip One other point - unless you are using software suspend, and want to be able to suspend one version of MDK, and start the other, you do not realy need two swap partitions. The two versions of MDK can share a swap partition. (Or use both if you realy need that much swap space.) Mikkel Mikkel, Not to change the subject, but that sounds interesting, being able to suspend one version and start the other. Where could I learn more about that? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to switch from one linux partition to another?
mike wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Duncan Anderson wrote: Rodolfo, snip One other point - unless you are using software suspend, and want to be able to suspend one version of MDK, and start the other, you do not realy need two swap partitions. The two versions of MDK can share a swap partition. (Or use both if you realy need that much swap space.) Mikkel Mikkel, Not to change the subject, but that sounds interesting, being able to suspend one version and start the other. Where could I learn more about that? Mike Cancel that, I understand what your talking about now. I think I'll fire up a pot of coffee and wake up :-) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
