date:20120506


On 5/7/12 3:11 AM, Zhe Liu wrote:

I think that testautomation can be removed into archive, since no one
want to write new tests basing on it.


or simply dropped, as Rob mentioned it will be still in svn. We don't 
need further archives


Juergen




2012/5/4 Raphael Bircher:

Hi at all

I will take over the testtool removal, Just for Information and that no
one other investegate time there. This will make the download size from
Apache OpenOffice a bit smaller.

Question about the Testscripts. They are still in the source code. I
propose to remove the directory testautomation from the source, make a
zip of them and put them in the Archive. maybe we can use them to write
new Tests.

What's your options

Greetings Raphael
--
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/

Re: offset pages in open office writer

2012-05-06 Thread Rory O'Farrell

On Mon, 7 May 2012 02:05:13 +0300
Saramet George Alexandru  wrote:

> Hy!
> My name is Saramet George, and i am one of the editors of the "ALS OB"
> magazine from "Nicolae Iorga" highschool from Negresti, Vaslui, Romania.
> Me and our entire editors team are using your lovely software
> "OpenOffice.org 3.3" for editing our highscool's magazine, but we are
> faceing a huge problem. When we transfer edited pages from a computer to
> another the pages become offset, for example, if we have an article that
> occupies two pages on  another computer it will be three pages long,  images
> are not in their place, and even our customized templates for the magazine
> are deformed.
> What can we do to solve this BIG problem?

Firstly, save and transfer the file in .odt format and edit on OpenOffice on 
both computers, not in another application. Secondly ensure that the same fonts 
are installed on both computers, in the same versions.  If the file is 
transferred only for printing, then use .pdf format for the transfer.  

-- 
Rory O'Farrell

Re: -quickstart Does Not Work in 3.4

2012-05-06 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hi Imacat

Am 07.05.12 04:09, schrieb imacat:
> Dear all,
>
> Has anyone noticed that the "-quickstart" switch (or quickstart.exe
> on Windows) does not work anymore in our 3.4 release?  Every time I boot
> my machine (either Linux or Windows), the Start Center pops-up, while it
> should be minimized as an icon in the tray.
>
looks like https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119102

Greetings Raphael

-quickstart Does Not Work in 3.4

Dear all,

Has anyone noticed that the "-quickstart" switch (or quickstart.exe
on Windows) does not work anymore in our 3.4 release?  Every time I boot
my machine (either Linux or Windows), the Start Center pops-up, while it
should be minimized as an icon in the tray.

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Re: A wiki about how to support a VBA API

2012-05-06 Thread Peng Chen

Hi,
Thank you all for your concern about this topic, maybe there are some
confusion about VBA support, thanks for Ma's clarification. I also update
the wiki with two reference, anything wrong or unclear, please update the
wiki directly, thanks.

2012/5/5 TJ Frazier 

> Hi, Andrew,
>
>
> On 5/5/2012 02:48, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
>
>> On 05/02/2012 04:29 AM, Peng Chen wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I post a wiki about how to support a VBA API in OpenOffice,
>>> http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_**
>>> support_a_VBA_API_in_**OpenOffice
>>>
>>>
>>> Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks.
>>>
>>> Now that I know what the page describes (thanks everyone), I gave this a
>> pretty careful read. It seems to provide significant information, and I
>> learned much. There are some issues with respect to language usage, and
>> they are easily fixed; I started to fix the wording (after I figured out
>> that I can), but I stopped after the first paragraph for two reasons:
>>
>> 1. It is not clear to me that my changes really did save, and
>>
>
> If your changes show properly in the Preview mode, then they will be
> correctly saved when you Save. Sometimes the ATS delivers stale pages, so
> you might see the original page, unchanged, after the Save. The workaround
> is described in "Moving Day":
> 
> **>
> Taking a break also works; the stale pages expire and go away.
> Sorry for the problem, but it's quite beyond my poor powers to fix.
>
> /tj/
>
>
>> 2. It is very late and I need some sleep before my little girls drag me
>> out of bed (not to mention the bigger girl that I married).
>>
>>
>
>

Re: offset pages in open office writer

2012-05-06 Thread chengjh

Hi George,

Nice to hear that you are using OO for your magazine...Could you please
provide some details about your different computers? such as the
OS,computer hardware and so on...and also,if you can send a sample to me if
not confidential,that would be better...thanks.

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Saramet George Alexandru <
sarametgeo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hy!
> My name is Saramet George, and i am one of the editors of the "ALS OB"
> magazine from "Nicolae Iorga" highschool from Negresti, Vaslui, Romania.
> Me and our entire editors team are using your lovely software
> "OpenOffice.org 3.3" for editing our highscool's magazine, but we are
> faceing a huge problem. When we transfer edited pages from a computer to
> another the pages become offset, for example, if we have an article that
> occupies two pages on  another computer it will be three pages long,
>  images
> are not in their place, and even our customized templates for the magazine
> are deformed.
> What can we do to solve this BIG problem?
>

-- 

Thanks...

Best Regards!

Jian Hong Cheng

Re: Testtool removal

2012-05-06 Thread Zhe Liu

I think that testautomation can be removed into archive, since no one
want to write new tests basing on it.


2012/5/4 Raphael Bircher :
> Hi at all
>
> I will take over the testtool removal, Just for Information and that no
> one other investegate time there. This will make the download size from
> Apache OpenOffice a bit smaller.
>
> Question about the Testscripts. They are still in the source code. I
> propose to remove the directory testautomation from the source, make a
> zip of them and put them in the Archive. maybe we can use them to write
> new Tests.
>
> What's your options
>
> Greetings Raphael
> --
> My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/



-- 
Best Regards
>From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
> >>  wrote:
> >> > +1
> >> >
> >> > I agree.  It looks like doing a reset and then rebuilding this
> structure
> >> in a way that is appropriate for Apache OpenOffice is the best way
> forward.
> >> >
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Right now we have no guarantees that these distributors are actually
> >> distributing current versions of OpenOffice, older versions with
> >> security issues, or even modified versions of OpenOffice with adware
> >> inserted.  We see things like this happening all over the web today.
> >> So I'd be very careful on how we associate the project with
> >> initiatives like this.  It is one thing if a PMC member or someone
> >> known to us wants to distribute CD's at a conference.  It is another
> >> thing for us to put up free advertising for unknown parties to sell
> >> what may or may not be real copies of OpenOffice.
> >>
> >> What we could do to protect our users is something like this:
> >>
> >> -- Define a new logo, perhaps based on the project logo, for CD
> >> distributors
> >>
> >> -- Put the logo up on a webpage page and allow anyone to use the logo,
> >> but only if it is used on a CD containing a release of OpenOffice and
> >> nothing but OpenOffice.
> >>
> >
> > Well there is a rather prominent disclaimer on the page --
> >
> >  *Note: OpenOffice.org makes no claims about the contents of any CD-ROM
> you
> > may purchase from a distributor listed here. We list these only as a
> > courtesy to the community. Should you find old or invalid links, please
> > report them to the page maintainer: Alex Fisher 
> >
>
> Yes.  But at that point I'm not sure we're really helping our users.
> If they want to pay money to get a CD of uncertain quality and
> contents, a simple search of Google will give them plenty of
> opportunities to take that risk, without this project getting
> involved.  Maybe this wasn't the case 12 years ago.
>
> Of course, if we can find a way to do the user a real service and have
> a way of ensuring they are getting a genuine copy of OpenOffice, then
> let's do it.
>
> Otherwise, imagine the parallel:
>
>
> 1) We set up a page for 3rd parties to request that we add a link for
> downloading OpenOffice
>
> 2) We don't verify that they actually offer genuine AOO.
>
> 3) We allow them to use the official project logo
>
> 4) We don't even check to see if they are allowing free downloads
>
> 5) So we end up with a page full of links to eBay ads and the various
> scams that are already out there pretending to be OpenOffice download
> sites
>
> You can see what a mess that would be if we allowed this for 3rd party
> download sites, if we just added links on request.  A disclaimer would
> not really help the users.
>
> Of course, we would never do something like that with download links.
> But I'm not sure that just changing the media to CD-Rom magically
> makes it better.  It is still a swamp.
>

yes...so, a solution? ditch the page entirely? We can certainly do that...


>
>
> > We should probably make a minor change on this for now and replace
> > OpenOffice.org with Apache OpenOffice , remove Alex, and point them to
> > ooo-dev? As I'm making final adjustments to things I am finding many such
> > items.
> > *
> >
> >>
> >> > This will disadvantage some NL groups who have been maintaining the
> >> information for their region, though.  So it needs to be a brief
> disruption.
> >> >
> >> > Andrea Pescetti has done some work on the page today.  I suggest
> >> consulting with him on a clean way forward.
> >> >
> >> >  - Dennis
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: drew jensen [mailto:drewjensen.in...@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:48
> >> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now?
> >> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/
> >> >
> >> > [ ... ]
> >> >
> >> > There are quite a few junk links on that page, for sure.
> >> > At the moment no-one is actively working on a CD image.
> >> > We don't have a 'community distributor' program, really - right - I
> >> > think it was a good idea and still is, but this group has to carve
> out a
> >> > little time to figure it out anew.
> >> >
> >> > so -  given the change in project, I really do think the best way
> >> > forward is to just wipe that page clean, first - and then look at what
> >> > should go in it's pace.
> >> >
> >> > My opinion on that anyway, and to re-emphasize - I think we want
> >> > distributors and an information page such as this and I'll work with
> >> > others to get it back, but I really think by Tuesday the links should
> be
> >> > e gone.
> >> >
> >> > //drew
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> 
> > MzK
> >
> > "Well, li

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
>>  wrote:
>> > +1
>> >
>> > I agree.  It looks like doing a reset and then rebuilding this structure
>> in a way that is appropriate for Apache OpenOffice is the best way forward.
>> >
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Right now we have no guarantees that these distributors are actually
>> distributing current versions of OpenOffice, older versions with
>> security issues, or even modified versions of OpenOffice with adware
>> inserted.  We see things like this happening all over the web today.
>> So I'd be very careful on how we associate the project with
>> initiatives like this.  It is one thing if a PMC member or someone
>> known to us wants to distribute CD's at a conference.  It is another
>> thing for us to put up free advertising for unknown parties to sell
>> what may or may not be real copies of OpenOffice.
>>
>> What we could do to protect our users is something like this:
>>
>> -- Define a new logo, perhaps based on the project logo, for CD
>> distributors
>>
>> -- Put the logo up on a webpage page and allow anyone to use the logo,
>> but only if it is used on a CD containing a release of OpenOffice and
>> nothing but OpenOffice.
>>
>
> Well there is a rather prominent disclaimer on the page --
>
>  *Note: OpenOffice.org makes no claims about the contents of any CD-ROM you
> may purchase from a distributor listed here. We list these only as a
> courtesy to the community. Should you find old or invalid links, please
> report them to the page maintainer: Alex Fisher 
>

Yes.  But at that point I'm not sure we're really helping our users.
If they want to pay money to get a CD of uncertain quality and
contents, a simple search of Google will give them plenty of
opportunities to take that risk, without this project getting
involved.  Maybe this wasn't the case 12 years ago.

Of course, if we can find a way to do the user a real service and have
a way of ensuring they are getting a genuine copy of OpenOffice, then
let's do it.

Otherwise, imagine the parallel:


1) We set up a page for 3rd parties to request that we add a link for
downloading OpenOffice

2) We don't verify that they actually offer genuine AOO.

3) We allow them to use the official project logo

4) We don't even check to see if they are allowing free downloads

5) So we end up with a page full of links to eBay ads and the various
scams that are already out there pretending to be OpenOffice download
sites

You can see what a mess that would be if we allowed this for 3rd party
download sites, if we just added links on request.  A disclaimer would
not really help the users.

Of course, we would never do something like that with download links.
But I'm not sure that just changing the media to CD-Rom magically
makes it better.  It is still a swamp.


> We should probably make a minor change on this for now and replace
> OpenOffice.org with Apache OpenOffice , remove Alex, and point them to
> ooo-dev? As I'm making final adjustments to things I am finding many such
> items.
> *
>
>>
>> > This will disadvantage some NL groups who have been maintaining the
>> information for their region, though.  So it needs to be a brief disruption.
>> >
>> > Andrea Pescetti has done some work on the page today.  I suggest
>> consulting with him on a clean way forward.
>> >
>> >  - Dennis
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: drew jensen [mailto:drewjensen.in...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:48
>> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now?
>> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/
>> >
>> > [ ... ]
>> >
>> > There are quite a few junk links on that page, for sure.
>> > At the moment no-one is actively working on a CD image.
>> > We don't have a 'community distributor' program, really - right - I
>> > think it was a good idea and still is, but this group has to carve out a
>> > little time to figure it out anew.
>> >
>> > so -  given the change in project, I really do think the best way
>> > forward is to just wipe that page clean, first - and then look at what
>> > should go in it's pace.
>> >
>> > My opinion on that anyway, and to re-emphasize - I think we want
>> > distributors and an information page such as this and I'll work with
>> > others to get it back, but I really think by Tuesday the links should be
>> > e gone.
>> >
>> > //drew
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>  And life has a funny way of helping you out
>  Helping you out."
>                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
>>  wrote:
>> > +1
>> >
>> > I agree.  It looks like doing a reset and then rebuilding this
>> structure in a way that is appropriate for Apache OpenOffice is the best
>> way forward.
>> >
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Right now we have no guarantees that these distributors are actually
>> distributing current versions of OpenOffice, older versions with
>> security issues, or even modified versions of OpenOffice with adware
>> inserted.  We see things like this happening all over the web today.
>> So I'd be very careful on how we associate the project with
>> initiatives like this.  It is one thing if a PMC member or someone
>> known to us wants to distribute CD's at a conference.  It is another
>> thing for us to put up free advertising for unknown parties to sell
>> what may or may not be real copies of OpenOffice.
>>
>> What we could do to protect our users is something like this:
>>
>> -- Define a new logo, perhaps based on the project logo, for CD
>> distributors
>>
>> -- Put the logo up on a webpage page and allow anyone to use the logo,
>> but only if it is used on a CD containing a release of OpenOffice and
>> nothing but OpenOffice.
>>
>
> Well there is a rather prominent disclaimer on the page --
>
>  *Note: OpenOffice.org makes no claims about the contents of any CD-ROM
> you may purchase from a distributor listed here. We list these only as a
> courtesy to the community. Should you find old or invalid links, please
> report them to the page maintainer: Alex Fisher 
>
> We should probably make a minor change on this for now and replace
> OpenOffice.org with Apache OpenOffice , remove Alex, and point them to
> ooo-dev? As I'm making final adjustments to things I am finding many such
> items.*
>

Also, we have NO CD images...I will make a few more changes to this now,
for now.

> *
> *
>
>>
>> > This will disadvantage some NL groups who have been maintaining the
>> information for their region, though.  So it needs to be a brief disruption.
>> >
>> > Andrea Pescetti has done some work on the page today.  I suggest
>> consulting with him on a clean way forward.
>> >
>> >  - Dennis
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: drew jensen [mailto:drewjensen.in...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:48
>> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now?
>> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/
>> >
>> > [ ... ]
>> >
>> > There are quite a few junk links on that page, for sure.
>> > At the moment no-one is actively working on a CD image.
>> > We don't have a 'community distributor' program, really - right - I
>> > think it was a good idea and still is, but this group has to carve out a
>> > little time to figure it out anew.
>> >
>> > so -  given the change in project, I really do think the best way
>> > forward is to just wipe that page clean, first - and then look at what
>> > should go in it's pace.
>> >
>> > My opinion on that anyway, and to re-emphasize - I think we want
>> > distributors and an information page such as this and I'll work with
>> > others to get it back, but I really think by Tuesday the links should be
>> > e gone.
>> >
>> > //drew
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> 
> MzK
>
>
> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>  And life has a funny way of helping you out
>  Helping you out."
> -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>
>
>


-- 

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
>  wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > I agree.  It looks like doing a reset and then rebuilding this structure
> in a way that is appropriate for Apache OpenOffice is the best way forward.
> >
>
> +1
>
> Right now we have no guarantees that these distributors are actually
> distributing current versions of OpenOffice, older versions with
> security issues, or even modified versions of OpenOffice with adware
> inserted.  We see things like this happening all over the web today.
> So I'd be very careful on how we associate the project with
> initiatives like this.  It is one thing if a PMC member or someone
> known to us wants to distribute CD's at a conference.  It is another
> thing for us to put up free advertising for unknown parties to sell
> what may or may not be real copies of OpenOffice.
>
> What we could do to protect our users is something like this:
>
> -- Define a new logo, perhaps based on the project logo, for CD
> distributors
>
> -- Put the logo up on a webpage page and allow anyone to use the logo,
> but only if it is used on a CD containing a release of OpenOffice and
> nothing but OpenOffice.
>

Well there is a rather prominent disclaimer on the page --

 *Note: OpenOffice.org makes no claims about the contents of any CD-ROM you
may purchase from a distributor listed here. We list these only as a
courtesy to the community. Should you find old or invalid links, please
report them to the page maintainer: Alex Fisher 

We should probably make a minor change on this for now and replace
OpenOffice.org with Apache OpenOffice , remove Alex, and point them to
ooo-dev? As I'm making final adjustments to things I am finding many such
items.
*

>
> > This will disadvantage some NL groups who have been maintaining the
> information for their region, though.  So it needs to be a brief disruption.
> >
> > Andrea Pescetti has done some work on the page today.  I suggest
> consulting with him on a clean way forward.
> >
> >  - Dennis
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: drew jensen [mailto:drewjensen.in...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:48
> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now?
> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/
> >
> > [ ... ]
> >
> > There are quite a few junk links on that page, for sure.
> > At the moment no-one is actively working on a CD image.
> > We don't have a 'community distributor' program, really - right - I
> > think it was a good idea and still is, but this group has to carve out a
> > little time to figure it out anew.
> >
> > so -  given the change in project, I really do think the best way
> > forward is to just wipe that page clean, first - and then look at what
> > should go in it's pace.
> >
> > My opinion on that anyway, and to re-emphasize - I think we want
> > distributors and an information page such as this and I'll work with
> > others to get it back, but I really think by Tuesday the links should be
> > e gone.
> >
> > //drew
> >
> >
>



-- 

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: Release Notes: missing screenshots

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 03/05/2012 Armin wrote:
>
>> Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
>>
>>> - Enhanced chart visualization ...
>>>
>> To see the advantages,
>> try to zoom into a 3d chart in OOO3.3 and AOO3.4. This also gives enhanced
>> printing and exports, too.
>>
>
> Thanks! This is a really impressive improvement that surely deserved a
> screenshot. See the striking comparison (400% zoom of 3D chart) at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/download/**
> attachments/27835830/aoo340-**charts.png?version=1&**
> modificationDate=1336337745300
> that I now included in the Release Notes:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> AOO+3.4+Release+Notes
>
> I didn't copy the image to
> http://www.openoffice.org/**development/releases/3.4.0.**html
> Anyone who is taking care of that page: please feel free to copy it.
>

OK, I  JUST brought this over yesterday...I can make a new copy...


>
> Does anyone have more information for a similar work (displaying the
> improvement with a screenshot) for the following two features, from my
> original request?
>
> - Formula: Automatic baseline for Math objects
> - Further development/bug fixes for DOCX import filter
>
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
>



-- 

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Problems adding to wiki

2012-05-06 Thread Wolf Halton

Hi,
I went to https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/wiki-home.html to add a page
about the Ubuntu Apache-OpenOffice Packaging team, and found my
username/pass was unknown
user: wolfhalton
email: wolfhal...@apache.org

Thanks,
Wolf

-- 
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Open-Source Software in Libraries - http://FOSS4Lib.org
Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org
Apache Open Office Developer wolfhal...@apache.org

Re: Release Notes: missing screenshots


On 03/05/2012 Armin wrote:

Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

- Enhanced chart visualization ...

To see the advantages,
try to zoom into a 3d chart in OOO3.3 and AOO3.4. This also gives enhanced
printing and exports, too.


Thanks! This is a really impressive improvement that surely deserved a 
screenshot. See the striking comparison (400% zoom of 3D chart) at

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27835830/aoo340-charts.png?version=1&modificationDate=1336337745300
that I now included in the Release Notes:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Release+Notes

I didn't copy the image to
http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.0.html
Anyone who is taking care of that page: please feel free to copy it.

Does anyone have more information for a similar work (displaying the 
improvement with a screenshot) for the following two features, from my 
original request?

- Formula: Automatic baseline for Math objects
- Further development/bug fixes for DOCX import filter

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
 wrote:
> +1
>
> I agree.  It looks like doing a reset and then rebuilding this structure in a 
> way that is appropriate for Apache OpenOffice is the best way forward.
>

+1

Right now we have no guarantees that these distributors are actually
distributing current versions of OpenOffice, older versions with
security issues, or even modified versions of OpenOffice with adware
inserted.  We see things like this happening all over the web today.
So I'd be very careful on how we associate the project with
initiatives like this.  It is one thing if a PMC member or someone
known to us wants to distribute CD's at a conference.  It is another
thing for us to put up free advertising for unknown parties to sell
what may or may not be real copies of OpenOffice.

What we could do to protect our users is something like this:

-- Define a new logo, perhaps based on the project logo, for CD distributors

-- Put the logo up on a webpage page and allow anyone to use the logo,
but only if it is used on a CD containing a release of OpenOffice and
nothing but OpenOffice.

> This will disadvantage some NL groups who have been maintaining the 
> information for their region, though.  So it needs to be a brief disruption.
>
> Andrea Pescetti has done some work on the page today.  I suggest consulting 
> with him on a clean way forward.
>
>  - Dennis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: drew jensen [mailto:drewjensen.in...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:48
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? 
> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/
>
> [ ... ]
>
> There are quite a few junk links on that page, for sure.
> At the moment no-one is actively working on a CD image.
> We don't have a 'community distributor' program, really - right - I
> think it was a good idea and still is, but this group has to carve out a
> little time to figure it out anew.
>
> so -  given the change in project, I really do think the best way
> forward is to just wipe that page clean, first - and then look at what
> should go in it's pace.
>
> My opinion on that anyway, and to re-emphasize - I think we want
> distributors and an information page such as this and I'll work with
> others to get it back, but I really think by Tuesday the links should be
> e gone.
>
> //drew
>
>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Shane Curcuru  wrote:
> It's great to see so many volunteers working at setting up social media
> accounts for the podling in various cultures.  I'm definitely +1 for PPMC
> members working on the lists to setup new accounts - presuming that we also
> have the volunteers to put some relevant content on them.  It sounds like
> imacat will do just fine on this one.  8-)
>
> Given the likely increase in these requests, I hope to have some more
> detailed best practices and a few requirements for social media accounts
> that are labeled as official; i.e. are run by the project itself (versus the
> many other accounts run by individuals about our projects).
>
> Basic guidelines would include:
>
> - (P)PMC approval.  You're already handling this one here on the lists,
> great!
>
> - PPMC ownership.  More than one PPMC member should be able to fully
> administer the account.  A best practice is to have several PPMC members
> being able to post to the account at will, and to have a basic agreement at
> keeping the PPMC apprised of the administrator list and allowing other PPMC
> members to join as authors or administrators.
>
> - A note on the homepage of the social media account/page/whatever noting
> that it is run my PPMC members from the AOO project.
>
> - A link back from the AOO site itself to the account.  This is a key way
> that we can inform users of which social media accounts truly could speak
> for the project or not.  I.e. any "official" accounts the PPMC approves and
> manages should be linked directly to from someplace on our website.  Any
> other, non-PPMC accounts could also be linked, but on our website we can let
> users know which ones we run versus third parties.
>
> Comments on these guidelines?
>

I've been making similar assumptions as well.  I was going to write
them for the project, along with some further, guidelines, not policy
related.   (Think of our mailing list guidelines, but translated into
a social networking context).  But it would be great to get this
defined ASF-wide

> - Shane
>
>
> On 2012-05-06 11:05 AM, imacat wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>     I would like to propose setting up three official Apache OpenOffice
>> social media accounts for the Taiwan local community:
>>
>>      1. I would like to set up the Facebook group:
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/ooo.tw/
>>
>>     as the official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan Facebook users' group.  It
>> is a Facebook group started since 2010/12, and is the current Facebook
>> group for our local community.
>>
>>      2. I would also like to set up an official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan
>> Plurk account, too (whether @apacheoo or @apacheootw is not decided
>> yet.)  Plurk is the most popular micro-blogging service here in Taiwan,
>> and is even more active than Facebook.
>>
>>      3. I do not know if this is appropriate.  I would like to set up an
>> official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan blog.  That may be apacheoo-tw on
>> blogspot.  It shall contain Apache OpenOffice announcements, as well as
>> local news.  Please tell me if there are other suggestions on this.
>>
>>
>

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

so the files are now available on dist. It was a tiny typo in my script.


It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files unless 
the upload is still ongoing.


The (updated) list is at
http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt
but the pattern is rather clear: we miss

Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_LG.tar.gz

Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_LG.tar.gz

for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/


Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

I agree.  It looks like doing a reset and then rebuilding this
structure in a way that is appropriate for Apache OpenOffice is the
best way forward.


Probably; but in this case I'd wait a few weeks, possibly check with 
Trademarks what requirements we need to place on the distributors, then 
see who is distributing Apache OpenOffice 3.4 properly and remove the 
other ones. In any case, we already have some disclaimers in place so I 
wouldn't reset the page now (on the other hand, my initial position was 
similar to Drew's, i.e., zap everything by release time; I don't have 
strong preferences, but there's a lot of editing going on in the website 
currently and it seems the CMS does not allow to publish single files, 
so I'd postpone the cleanup until the release anyway).



Andrea Pescetti has done some work on the page today.  I suggest
consulting with him on a clean way forward.


What I did was:
- Remove the spam site as per original request: http://s.apache.org/6sF
- Notify Trademarks so that we can have advice: http://s.apache.org/6sF
- Remove spam/dead links, limited to Italy: http://s.apache.org/9dK
- Remove dead link reported by Fernando: http://s.apache.org/3Ec

So I just took the obvious uncontroversial actions. The real issue is 
still to be examined, but I'd give priority to what is strictly relevant 
for the release.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


Am 05/06/2012 08:46 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:


Am 05/06/2012 07:39 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

  On 5/6/12 7:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:



Am 05/06/2012 07:14 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:


On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:


Marcus (OOo) wrote:


http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**

checksums_new_dl.html





  Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no

localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds


@Andrea:

You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
other files?



I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64
missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of
broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it
seems to match the list of missing files):

http://people.apache.org/~**pescetti/tmp/missing-**checksums.txt



Thanks a lot for the list. :-)

I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
(the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
are missing.



yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.

That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.



I think when en-GB gets diabled in "languages.js", then the green box
can point to the "other.html" webpage. And on that webpage we can leave
Mac OS and Windows as available. Or we drop it completely.



en-GB is removed from dist after I have talked with infra people in IRC

It is cleaner and better to have it removed completely.

So please remove en-GB from the supported language list for 3.4. It will
be part of the net micro update 3.4.1 with the updated localization



OK, committed. The testing webpages should be up-to-date.



wow! great work Marcus...OK, I just set up en-gb as non-supported on the
mirrors so we should be ok with this one now. set up correctly in staging.


Thanks for taking care so fast. :-)

Marcus


  Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version

string. But it has to be "3.4.0".



that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4



OK, I'll adapt it on the download webpage.

Marcus

  The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list

and from the checksums webpage:

http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**
en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_**
install_en-GB.exe.sha512





http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**
en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_**
langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512





Marcus










--

Ciao

Marcus

Re: Can somebody remind me how to pull source?

2012-05-06 Thread Wolf Halton

I saw that you had the data in at launchpad. Good show! I still haven't
sorted out how to get all their cool packaging automation to work.
Does it make sense to aim at Precise for now? and which architecture(s)?

http://evergreen-community-01.lyrasistechnology.org
http://sourcefreedom.com
Apache developer:
wolfhal...@apache.org
On May 5, 2012 6:05 PM, "drew"  wrote:

> On Sat, 2012-05-05 at 11:35 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
> > Thanks Raphael
> > Exactly what I was looking for.
> Hi Wolf
>
> And to get the AOO340 tagged branch this line would work:
>
> svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/tags/AOO340/ AOO340
>
> actually have that coming down to my machine now..
>
> Launchpad is still showing an error trying to synch (import) from that
> URL, further along then the first try at least.
>
> //drew
>
>
> >
> > http://evergreen-community-01.lyrasistechnology.org
> > http://sourcefreedom.com
> > Apache developer:
> > wolfhal...@apache.org
> > On May 5, 2012 7:13 AM, "Raphael Bircher"  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Wolf
> > >
> > > Am 05.05.12 12:56, schrieb Wolf Halton:
> > > > I want all the source so I am thinking it will be a pattern like:
> > > > svn pull openoffice/something
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/source.html
> > >
> > > Greetings Raphael
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

> Am 05/06/2012 07:39 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>
>  On 5/6/12 7:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>>> Am 05/06/2012 07:14 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>>
 On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

> Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>
>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>> checksums_new_dl.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no
> localized
> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds
>
 @Andrea:
>>> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
>>> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
>>> other files?
>>>
>>
>> I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64
>> missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of
>> broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it
>> seems to match the list of missing files):
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~**pescetti/tmp/missing-**checksums.txt
>>
>
> Thanks a lot for the list. :-)
>
> I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
> (the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
> combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
> are missing.
>

 yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
 en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.

 That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.

>>>
>>> I think when en-GB gets diabled in "languages.js", then the green box
>>> can point to the "other.html" webpage. And on that webpage we can leave
>>> Mac OS and Windows as available. Or we drop it completely.
>>>
>>
>> en-GB is removed from dist after I have talked with infra people in IRC
>>
>> It is cleaner and better to have it removed completely.
>>
>> So please remove en-GB from the supported language list for 3.4. It will
>> be part of the net micro update 3.4.1 with the updated localization
>>
>
> OK, committed. The testing webpages should be up-to-date.
>

wow! great work Marcus...OK, I just set up en-gb as non-supported on the
mirrors so we should be ok with this one now. set up correctly in staging.


>
> Marcus
>
>
>  Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
> string. But it has to be "3.4.0".
>

 that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4

>>>
>>> OK, I'll adapt it on the download webpage.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>  The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
> and from the checksums webpage:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**
> en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_**
> install_en-GB.exe.sha512
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**
> en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_**
> langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512
>
>
>
>
>
> Marcus
>



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 And life has a funny way of helping you out
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

On 2012/05/07 02:07, Shane Curcuru said:
> On 2012-05-06 12:11 PM, imacat wrote:
>> On 2012/05/06 23:34, Shane Curcuru said:
>>> Basic guidelines would include:
>>> - PPMC ownership.  More than one PPMC member should be able to fully
>>> administer the account.  A best practice is to have several PPMC members
>>> being able to post to the account at will, and to have a basic agreement
>>> at keeping the PPMC apprised of the administrator list and allowing
>>> other PPMC members to join as authors or administrators.
>>  There is some problem here.  Currently there is no other Taiwan PMC
>> member but me.  I plan to use these pages as a start to invite more
>> volunteers, refer them to ooo-dev, and eventually propose some of them
>> as new PMC members when appropriate.  Surely I can invite other
>> English-speaking PPMC member to fullfill this request now, but that does
>> not make sense.
> The minimum from the ASF side is that more than one PPMC member has
> access to the account - for example to be able to quickly send an urgent
> message, or if the account creator disappears and isn't maintaining the
> account.  So adding another PPMC member to help administer will work
> just fine - even if they don't speak your target language, they could at
> least still access the account and update it (perhaps updating the list
> of admins with a new volunteer) if for some reason you are not able to.
> 
> I.e. not everyone who is an admin on the account has to post to it
> regularly.  Some projects - smaller ones than this, however - just send
> the login details to all PMC members, just to ensure they can access the
> account if needed.
> 
> Does that make sense?

I see.  That does make sense.  I shall start with this. ^_*'

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RE: Who is Page Maintainer Now?

2012-05-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

PS: I checked the page history for .. /distribution/cdrom/index.html and Andrea 
Pescetti worked on it earlier today, 2012-05-06Z.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:11
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Who is Page Maintainer Now?

This request for a new download location has been sent indiscriminately to a 
number of lists.  

It appears that the China entry on the cdrom sources page is completely empty.  
(Does it render as badly arranged tables in the browsers of others? I find it 
difficult to read through.)

Note that the application process for addition to the list specifies an 
@openoffice.org e-mail address.

The entire distribution and distribution/cdrom portions of the site are in the 
AOO SVN at 

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/distribution/

corresponding to 

http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/

and so on.  

Anyone can submit patches against these pages.  Committers can operate with 
them directly via SVN at the https: SVN URL and by following the ceremony for 
having pages staged and then published at www.openoffice.org. 

It might be wise to do a reset on this entire section and rebuild it with folks 
who re-apply and agree to follow the trademark rules.  There are other concerns 
as well concerning the authenticity and integrity of whatever is being 
provided.  I have no idea what would be a supportable solution to all of that. 

The active maintainers of the web pages can provide more advice to anyone who 
wants to work on this material.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: imacat [mailto:ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw] 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 09:01
To: Apache OpenOffice Developers
Subject: Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? 
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

On 2012/05/06 23:50, Kay Schenk said:
> On 05/05/2012 11:15 PM, i...@softwaredistributor.info wrote:
>> Re:Hong Kong Distributor (Free Software-Free CD-ROM)
>> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html
>> Please Change my website URL from
>> http://www.networkowned.com (Domain illegally transferred to other
>> account)
>> to
>> http://www.softwaredistributor.info
> Is there any problem with honoring this request?

I do not see either http://www.networkowned.com or
http://www.softwaredistributor.info on that page.  Maybe someone updated
it already?

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RE: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

2012-05-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

+1

I agree.  It looks like doing a reset and then rebuilding this structure in a 
way that is appropriate for Apache OpenOffice is the best way forward.  

This will disadvantage some NL groups who have been maintaining the information 
for their region, though.  So it needs to be a brief disruption.

Andrea Pescetti has done some work on the page today.  I suggest consulting 
with him on a clean way forward.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: drew jensen [mailto:drewjensen.in...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:48
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? 
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

[ ... ]

There are quite a few junk links on that page, for sure.
At the moment no-one is actively working on a CD image.
We don't have a 'community distributor' program, really - right - I
think it was a good idea and still is, but this group has to carve out a
little time to figure it out anew.

so -  given the change in project, I really do think the best way
forward is to just wipe that page clean, first - and then look at what
should go in it's pace. 

My opinion on that anyway, and to re-emphasize - I think we want
distributors and an information page such as this and I'll work with
others to get it back, but I really think by Tuesday the links should be
e gone.

//drew

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

2012-05-06 Thread Fernando Cassia

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, drew jensen wrote:

> My opinion on that anyway, and to re-emphasize - I think we want
> distributors and an information page such as this and I'll work with
> others to get it back, but I really think by Tuesday the links should be
> e gone
>

How about replacing it with something like: "Do you distribute Apache Open
Office on CD? Let us know, so we can add you to this page". (mailto: link)

Then "Known distributors of OpenOffice.org" and the current,  "legacy" list
below...

FC
PS: I don't think it's needed to "create a cd image" distributors can
download and burn Apache OO themselves... why go the extra effort of
repackaging it as .ISO if distributors are already doing it and
cherry-picking which languages to include etc according to their location?
-- 
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act
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RE: Who is Page Maintainer Now?

2012-05-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

This request for a new download location has been sent indiscriminately to a 
number of lists.  

It appears that the China entry on the cdrom sources page is completely empty.  
(Does it render as badly arranged tables in the browsers of others? I find it 
difficult to read through.)

Note that the application process for addition to the list specifies an 
@openoffice.org e-mail address.

The entire distribution and distribution/cdrom portions of the site are in the 
AOO SVN at 

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/distribution/

corresponding to 

http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/

and so on.  

Anyone can submit patches against these pages.  Committers can operate with 
them directly via SVN at the https: SVN URL and by following the ceremony for 
having pages staged and then published at www.openoffice.org. 

It might be wise to do a reset on this entire section and rebuild it with folks 
who re-apply and agree to follow the trademark rules.  There are other concerns 
as well concerning the authenticity and integrity of whatever is being 
provided.  I have no idea what would be a supportable solution to all of that. 

The active maintainers of the web pages can provide more advice to anyone who 
wants to work on this material.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: imacat [mailto:ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw] 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 09:01
To: Apache OpenOffice Developers
Subject: Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? 
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

On 2012/05/06 23:50, Kay Schenk said:
> On 05/05/2012 11:15 PM, i...@softwaredistributor.info wrote:
>> Re:Hong Kong Distributor (Free Software-Free CD-ROM)
>> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html
>> Please Change my website URL from
>> http://www.networkowned.com (Domain illegally transferred to other
>> account)
>> to
>> http://www.softwaredistributor.info
> Is there any problem with honoring this request?

I do not see either http://www.networkowned.com or
http://www.softwaredistributor.info on that page.  Maybe someone updated
it already?

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Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Am 05/06/2012 07:39 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 5/6/12 7:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 07:14 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html

Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
other files?

I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64
missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of
broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it
seems to match the list of missing files):

http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt

Thanks a lot for the list. :-)

I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
(the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
are missing.

yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.

That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.

I think when en-GB gets diabled in "languages.js", then the green box
can point to the "other.html" webpage. And on that webpage we can leave
Mac OS and Windows as available. Or we drop it completely.

en-GB is removed from dist after I have talked with infra people in IRC

It is cleaner and better to have it removed completely.

So please remove en-GB from the supported language list for 3.4. It will
be part of the net micro update 3.4.1 with the updated localization

OK, committed. The testing webpages should be up-to-date.

Marcus

Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
string. But it has to be "3.4.0".

that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4

OK, I'll adapt it on the download webpage.

Marcus

The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
and from the checksums webpage:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512

Marcus

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

2012-05-06 Thread Shane Curcuru


On 2012-05-06 12:11 PM, imacat wrote:

On 2012/05/06 23:34, Shane Curcuru said:

Basic guidelines would include:
- (P)PMC approval.  You're already handling this one here on the lists,
great!


 Thanks.


- PPMC ownership.  More than one PPMC member should be able to fully
administer the account.  A best practice is to have several PPMC members
being able to post to the account at will, and to have a basic agreement
at keeping the PPMC apprised of the administrator list and allowing
other PPMC members to join as authors or administrators.


 There is some problem here.  Currently there is no other Taiwan PMC
member but me.  I plan to use these pages as a start to invite more
volunteers, refer them to ooo-dev, and eventually propose some of them
as new PMC members when appropriate.  Surely I can invite other
English-speaking PPMC member to fullfill this request now, but that does
not make sense.

 In cases other than Taiwan, this means the official local page needs
to have at least two PMC members in order to work.  That may not be an
easy condition for non-English-speaking countries.


The minimum from the ASF side is that more than one PPMC member has 
access to the account - for example to be able to quickly send an urgent 
message, or if the account creator disappears and isn't maintaining the 
account.  So adding another PPMC member to help administer will work 
just fine - even if they don't speak your target language, they could at 
least still access the account and update it (perhaps updating the list 
of admins with a new volunteer) if for some reason you are not able to.


I.e. not everyone who is an admin on the account has to post to it 
regularly.  Some projects - smaller ones than this, however - just send 
the login details to all PMC members, just to ensure they can access the 
account if needed.


Does that make sense?

I agree, the other important issue is having volunteers who can actually 
post relevant things to the account regularly - it sounds like you are 
covering that for the time being.


- Shane




- A note on the homepage of the social media account/page/whatever
noting that it is run my PPMC members from the AOO project.
- A link back from the AOO site itself to the account.  This is a key
way that we can inform users of which social media accounts truly could
speak for the project or not.  I.e. any "official" accounts the PPMC
approves and manages should be linked directly to from someplace on our
website.  Any other, non-PPMC accounts could also be linked, but on our
website we can let users know which ones we run versus third parties.


 These are OK.

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

2012-05-06 Thread drew jensen

On Sun, 2012-05-06 at 08:50 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> 
> On 05/05/2012 11:15 PM, i...@softwaredistributor.info wrote:
> > Dear Alex,
> >
> > Re:Hong Kong Distributor (Free Software-Free CD-ROM)
> > http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html
> >
> >
> > Please Change my website URL from
> > http://www.networkowned.com (Domain illegally transferred to other account)
> > to
> > http://www.softwaredistributor.info
> >
> >
> > Hong Kong
> > Distributor
> >
> > Free Software-Free CD-ROM http://www.networkowned.com (invalid) please
> > change to  http://www.softwaredistributor.info
> >
> >
> > Grateful if you can change it as soon as possible.
> >
> >
> > You can find my application email(i...@networkowned.com) for distributor
> > in your mail archive
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Benjamin Lee
> > i...@softwaredistributor.info
> >
> 
> Is there any problem with honoring this request?

I think there is, actually.

There are quite a few junk links on that page, for sure.
At the moment no-one is actively working on a CD image.
We don't have a 'community distributor' program, really - right - I
think it was a good idea and still is, but this group has to carve out a
little time to figure it out anew.

so -  given the change in project, I really do think the best way
forward is to just wipe that page clean, first - and then look at what
should go in it's pace. 

My opinion on that anyway, and to re-emphasize - I think we want
distributors and an information page such as this and I'll work with
others to get it back, but I really think by Tuesday the links should be
e gone.

//drew

//drew

> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


On 5/6/12 7:38 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

Hi Jürgen,

On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:14:14PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
(the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
are missing.


yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we
drop en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.

That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.


I may have missed when you told what languages to build, I was building
the same set of languages we've been building so far for the Dev's
Snapshots https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/sL2oAQ
that is
--with-lang="ar cs de en-US es fi fr gl hu it ja nl pt-BR ru zh-CN zh-TW"


It was my fault, don't worry. As I mentioned I have already dropped it 
from dist. We will include it for 3.4.1.



Juergen

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

On 5/6/12 7:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 07:14 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html

Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
other files?

http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt

Thanks a lot for the list. :-)

yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.

That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.

en-GB is removed from dist after I have talked with infra people in IRC

It is cleaner and better to have it removed completely.

So please remove en-GB from the supported language list for 3.4. It will
be part of the net micro update 3.4.1 with the updated localization

Juergen

Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
string. But it has to be "3.4.0".

that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4

OK, I'll adapt it on the download webpage.

Marcus

The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
and from the checksums webpage:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

2012-05-06 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile

Hi Jürgen,

On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:14:14PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
> >(the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
> >combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
> >are missing.
> 
> yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we
> drop en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.
> 
> That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.

I may have missed when you told what languages to build, I was building
the same set of languages we've been building so far for the Dev's
Snapshots https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/sL2oAQ
that is 
--with-lang="ar cs de en-US es fi fr gl hu it ja nl pt-BR ru zh-CN zh-TW"


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Am 05/06/2012 07:14 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html

Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
other files?

http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt

Thanks a lot for the list. :-)

yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.

That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.

Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
string. But it has to be "3.4.0".

that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4

OK, I'll adapt it on the download webpage.

Marcus

The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
and from the checksums webpage:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512

Marcus

Adding a CAT extension to Writer

2012-05-06 Thread Guy Waterval

Hi all,

Anaphraseus (http://anaphraseus.sourceforge.net/ ) is a CAT (*C*omputer *A*ided
*T*ranslation) extension which fits entirely into the Writer UI.

It allows to perform translations directly in Writer and can be connected
with an external translation machine as GoogleTranslate, MS Translate or
Apertium.

To give you an idea of what can/can't be done actually with it, I post the
two following files :


   - ana_fr : original tutorial in french (draft)
   www.softenpoche.com/sep/ana_fr.odt
   - ana_en : translation made with Anaphraseus connected to Google
   Translate. Sorry for the lot of mistakes, I'm not an en/us writer, but the
   results are very interesting when you proceed the translation in your own
   language www.softenpoche.com/sep/ana_en.odt.

Have a nice week

-- 

gw

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


Am 05/06/2012 06:50 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 5/6/12 5:45 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 05:24 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:

On Sunday, 6. May 2012 at 14:19, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

The checksums file is ready:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html





It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody,
so OK.




Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO
for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for
hashes.

Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think
this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we
will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.


I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click
around on
that page and you will see plenty of broken links.




Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same
for the hash files, as you can see here:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/

I will check it asap later when I am back home. It must be an error.


Great. Hopefully enough time to upload them, too.


so the files are now available on dist. It was a tiny typo in my script.


OK, I will wait until they are finally visible.


A clear pointer or private email a little bit earlier would have been
great ;-) I simply have overseen it. I thought I had double checked it.


You are right. Sorry for too less visibility.

Please see also my response in this thread to Andrea's post with his 
list. There are some more mistakes.


Marcus


Do you know of more missing files?


No.

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
other files?

Thanks

Marcus




I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF
mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*

Thanks for your feedback.

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html

Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
other files?

http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt

Thanks a lot for the list. :-)

yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.

That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.

Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
string. But it has to be "3.4.0".

that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4

Juergen

The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
and from the checksums webpage:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


On 5/6/12 6:50 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 5/6/12 5:45 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 05:24 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:

On Sunday, 6. May 2012 at 14:19, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

The checksums file is ready:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html





It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody,
so OK.




Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO
for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for
hashes.

Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think
this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we
will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.


I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click
around on
that page and you will see plenty of broken links.




Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same
for the hash files, as you can see here:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/

I will check it asap later when I am back home. It must be an error.


Great. Hopefully enough time to upload them, too.


so the files are now available on dist. It was a tiny typo in my script.

A clear pointer or private email a little bit earlier would have been
great ;-) I simply have overseen it. I thought I had double checked it.


We have to take care of en-GB, we have no Linux packages for en-GB. I 
stumbled over this fact when I again double checked the dist folder.


I would suggest that we drop it completely if it is to complicate to 
adapt the download script.


I have an updated localization for en-GB anyway and we can include it in 
the next run.


I don't see it too critical.

Juergen




Juergen





Do you know of more missing files?


No.

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
other files?

Thanks

Marcus




I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF
mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*

Thanks for your feedback.

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html

Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
other files?

http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt

Thanks a lot for the list. :-)

Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
string. But it has to be "3.4.0".

The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
and from the checksums webpage:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


On 5/6/12 5:45 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 05:24 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:

On Sunday, 6. May 2012 at 14:19, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

The checksums file is ready:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html




It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody,
so OK.




Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO
for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for
hashes.

Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think
this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we
will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.


I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click
around on
that page and you will see plenty of broken links.




Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same
for the hash files, as you can see here:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/

I will check it asap later when I am back home. It must be an error.


Great. Hopefully enough time to upload them, too.


so the files are now available on dist. It was a tiny typo in my script.

A clear pointer or private email a little bit earlier would have been 
great ;-) I simply have overseen it. I thought I had double checked it.


Juergen





Do you know of more missing files?


No.

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
other files?

Thanks

Marcus




I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF
mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*

Thanks for your feedback.

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


Marcus (OOo) wrote:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html

Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
other files?


I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64 
missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of 
broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it 
seems to match the list of missing files):


http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

2012-05-06 Thread Fernando Cassia

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:00 PM, imacat  wrote:

>I do not see either http://www.networkowned.com or
> http://www.softwaredistributor.info on that page.  Maybe someone updated
> it already?
>

I wasn't even aware of that page :). By the way, just checked and one
domain under "Argentina" is no longer operating, you might want to remove it
*
http://pedidos.televentas.info/

FC
*
-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto
Revolucionario
- George Orwell

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/


Kay Schenk wrote:

On 05/05/2012 11:15 PM, i...@softwaredistributor.info wrote:

http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html
Please Change my website URL from
http://www.networkowned.com (Domain illegally transferred to other
account)
to
http://www.softwaredistributor.info


Is there any problem with honoring this request?


Yes (for the second part, i.e., the new site). At least, this is what I 
posted when addressing the very same request on ooo-users and 
ooo-marketing: http://s.apache.org/6sF ; but I delegated the final 
decision to Trademarks.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

2012-05-06 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto

Hi.

There days was thinking in the creation or reformulation of the cd/dvd AOO,
could create thread about this.

In future create cd/dvd with Apache OpenOffice 3.4 and/or next versions.

Best,
Albino

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

On 2012/05/06 23:34, Shane Curcuru said:
> Basic guidelines would include:
> - (P)PMC approval.  You're already handling this one here on the lists,
> great!

Thanks.

> - PPMC ownership.  More than one PPMC member should be able to fully
> administer the account.  A best practice is to have several PPMC members
> being able to post to the account at will, and to have a basic agreement
> at keeping the PPMC apprised of the administrator list and allowing
> other PPMC members to join as authors or administrators.

There is some problem here.  Currently there is no other Taiwan PMC
member but me.  I plan to use these pages as a start to invite more
volunteers, refer them to ooo-dev, and eventually propose some of them
as new PMC members when appropriate.  Surely I can invite other
English-speaking PPMC member to fullfill this request now, but that does
not make sense.

In cases other than Taiwan, this means the official local page needs
to have at least two PMC members in order to work.  That may not be an
easy condition for non-English-speaking countries.

> - A note on the homepage of the social media account/page/whatever
> noting that it is run my PPMC members from the AOO project.
> - A link back from the AOO site itself to the account.  This is a key
> way that we can inform users of which social media accounts truly could
> speak for the project or not.  I.e. any "official" accounts the PPMC
> approves and manages should be linked directly to from someplace on our
> website.  Any other, non-PPMC accounts could also be linked, but on our
> website we can let users know which ones we run versus third parties.

These are OK.

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Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

On 2012/05/06 23:50, Kay Schenk said:
> On 05/05/2012 11:15 PM, i...@softwaredistributor.info wrote:
>> Re:Hong Kong Distributor (Free Software-Free CD-ROM)
>> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html
>> Please Change my website URL from
>> http://www.networkowned.com (Domain illegally transferred to other
>> account)
>> to
>> http://www.softwaredistributor.info
> Is there any problem with honoring this request?

I do not see either http://www.networkowned.com or
http://www.softwaredistributor.info on that page.  Maybe someone updated
it already?

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Re: UOF (was Re: Hi everyone I am OOo old friend , My name is robertzhou)

2012-05-06 Thread Peter Junge


On 5/4/2012 11:37 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Hello everyone;

A warm welcome to everyone from China; its great to know that while I
sleep, someone in another timezone will be making good use of
OpenOffice. ;)

I dont know much about UOF but we still have remnants of a homepage
for that project:

http://www.openoffice.org/uof/


The most important thing to get started would be getting the UOF spec 
translated into English.


Best regards,
Peter

Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/




On 05/05/2012 11:15 PM, i...@softwaredistributor.info wrote:

Dear Alex,

Re:Hong Kong Distributor (Free Software-Free CD-ROM)
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html


Please Change my website URL from
http://www.networkowned.com (Domain illegally transferred to other account)
to
http://www.softwaredistributor.info


Hong Kong
Distributor

Free Software-Free CD-ROM http://www.networkowned.com (invalid) please
change to  http://www.softwaredistributor.info


Grateful if you can change it as soon as possible.


You can find my application email(i...@networkowned.com) for distributor
in your mail archive



Regards
Benjamin Lee
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Is there any problem with honoring this request?










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Re: Hi everyone I am OOo old friend , My name is robertzhou

2012-05-06 Thread Peter Junge

On 5/4/2012 7:51 PM, Yong Lin Ma wrote:
> How about start from writing a wiki about UOF support status in AOO3.4?
> 
> Any member from your team used to work on UOF in Red Office before?

I'm neither a member of that team, not have I been working directly on
UOF, but I have been working for RedOffice and one of my
responsibilities was contributing UOF specific features to ODF.

Peter

> 
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:12 PM, 史周波  wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> I am glad to return to Apache Openoffice.org
>>
>> I am robertzhou, form china . I am working for cs2c . I am old friend of
>> OpenOffice.org.
>> many years ago, I was working for freamework and developer. I'd like to
>> work for Apache OpenOffice.org.
>> I'm insterting in Aoo performace 、framework 、 chinese localization、UOF .
>>
>> I' m going to work for UOF. who can tell me how to start ?
>>
>> Best Regards.
>>
>> robertzhou
>>

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


Am 05/06/2012 05:24 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:

On Sunday, 6. May 2012 at 14:19, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

The checksums file is ready:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html




It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so OK.




Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO
for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for
hashes.

Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think
this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we
will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.


I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
that page and you will see plenty of broken links.




Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same
for the hash files, as you can see here:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/

I will check it asap later when I am back home. It must be an error.


Great. Hopefully enough time to upload them, too.


Do you know of more missing files?


No.

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm 
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen 
other files?


Thanks

Marcus




I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF
mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*

Thanks for your feedback.

Marcus

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

2012-05-06 Thread Shane Curcuru

It's great to see so many volunteers working at setting up social media 
accounts for the podling in various cultures.  I'm definitely +1 for 
PPMC members working on the lists to setup new accounts - presuming that 
we also have the volunteers to put some relevant content on them.  It 
sounds like imacat will do just fine on this one.  8-)


Given the likely increase in these requests, I hope to have some more 
detailed best practices and a few requirements for social media accounts 
that are labeled as official; i.e. are run by the project itself (versus 
the many other accounts run by individuals about our projects).


Basic guidelines would include:

- (P)PMC approval.  You're already handling this one here on the lists, 
great!


- PPMC ownership.  More than one PPMC member should be able to fully 
administer the account.  A best practice is to have several PPMC members 
being able to post to the account at will, and to have a basic agreement 
at keeping the PPMC apprised of the administrator list and allowing 
other PPMC members to join as authors or administrators.


- A note on the homepage of the social media account/page/whatever 
noting that it is run my PPMC members from the AOO project.


- A link back from the AOO site itself to the account.  This is a key 
way that we can inform users of which social media accounts truly could 
speak for the project or not.  I.e. any "official" accounts the PPMC 
approves and manages should be linked directly to from someplace on our 
website.  Any other, non-PPMC accounts could also be linked, but on our 
website we can let users know which ones we run versus third parties.


Comments on these guidelines?

- Shane

On 2012-05-06 11:05 AM, imacat wrote:

Dear all,

 I would like to propose setting up three official Apache OpenOffice
social media accounts for the Taiwan local community:

  1. I would like to set up the Facebook group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ooo.tw/

 as the official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan Facebook users' group.  It
is a Facebook group started since 2010/12, and is the current Facebook
group for our local community.

  2. I would also like to set up an official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan
Plurk account, too (whether @apacheoo or @apacheootw is not decided
yet.)  Plurk is the most popular micro-blogging service here in Taiwan,
and is even more active than Facebook.

  3. I do not know if this is appropriate.  I would like to set up an
official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan blog.  That may be apacheoo-tw on
blogspot.  It shall contain Apache OpenOffice announcements, as well as
local news.  Please tell me if there are other suggestions on this.

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

2012-05-06 Thread Juergen Schmidt

On Sunday, 6. May 2012 at 14:19, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> > On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> > > The checksums file is ready:
> > > http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
> > mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so OK.
> > 
> 
> 
> Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO 
> for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for 
> hashes.
> 
> Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think 
> this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we 
> will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.
> 
> > I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
> > builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
> > and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
> > that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
> > 
> 
> 
> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized 
> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same 
> for the hash files, as you can see here:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/
I will check it asap later when I am back home. It must be an error.

Do you know of more missing files? 

Juergen 
> 
> I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF 
> mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*
> 
> Thanks for your feedback.
> 
> Marcus

[PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

Dear all,

I would like to propose setting up three official Apache OpenOffice
social media accounts for the Taiwan local community:

 1. I would like to set up the Facebook group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ooo.tw/

as the official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan Facebook users' group.  It
is a Facebook group started since 2010/12, and is the current Facebook
group for our local community.

 2. I would also like to set up an official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan
Plurk account, too (whether @apacheoo or @apacheootw is not decided
yet.)  Plurk is the most popular micro-blogging service here in Taiwan,
and is even more active than Facebook.

 3. I do not know if this is appropriate.  I would like to set up an
official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan blog.  That may be apacheoo-tw on
blogspot.  It shall contain Apache OpenOffice announcements, as well as
local news.  Please tell me if there are other suggestions on this.


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Re: Pages in the social media

On 2012/05/06 22:14, Rob Weir said:
> n Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:05 AM, imacat  wrote:
>>That said, could I setup official OpenOffice account for Taiwan on
>> Facebook, Plurk, etc?
> Oh, I know nothing about Plurk ;-)

Plurk is the most popular micro-blogging service in Taiwan.

Actually there are some local social-media services that may be most
popular in one country, like Plurk in Taiwan or AmebaNow in Japan, or
Weibo/Renren in China.  Should we set up an global official account on
these services and then a local one?  Or should we set up local accounts
only?  That said, should I set up @apacheoo or @apacheootw on Plurk?

>>What is the condition besides linking to www.openoffice.org?  Is it
>> OK to link to zh.openoffice.org?
> That's fine.  The important thing is that we are directing the user
> back to the project's website.
> Would the page be for traditional and simplified Chinese?   Or only 
> traditional?
> (I am ignorant of these things.  Can the average Chinese reader
> understand both scripts?)

Well... *theoretically* speaking, pages for Traditional and
Simplified Chinese should be separated.  We have long, different
cultures.  It does not look good to post Simplified Chinese content for
Taiwan people.  I do not know if vice versa.  The reason is not for
discussion here.

But that's only *theoretically*.  In *reality* the China government
GFW blocks Twitter, Google+, Facebook, Plurk, ...all the social media
services.  So this question makes no sense.

(So, Xia Ziao: Are you going to set up accounts on Weibo or Renren?)

> Of course, you will also want to make a specific proposal on this list
> and see if anyone objects (lazy consensus).

OK.  I will propose that.  Thank you. ^_*'

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Re: Pages in the social media

2012-05-06 Thread Roberto Salomon

Hi,

Non-English social media accounts have two major tasks: Deliver official
news in the communities' languages and deliver news that, although
interesting for local communities, may not be of interest for other
communities.

Simply relaying English content through a non-English channel defeats the
purpose, as Imacat said.

As for the human resources, what I found in the past is that volunteers are
a great source of information, as long as they don't have to maintain the
lists or sites themselves. A localized social media e-mail address could be
set as a front-end for information gathering that could supply a steady
feed of relevant information for the community.

Best regards,

2012/5/6 imacat 

> On 2012/05/06 22:08, Rob Weir said:
> > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM, imacat 
> wrote:
> >> On 2012/05/06 18:53, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
> >>> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho 
>  2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto :
> >>Could I ask how you plan to manage them?  I was thinking about the
> >> same thing for Taiwan, but I cannot think of where can I get the content
> >> for and the human resource to manage these pages.
> > How to find content?  A few sources I use:
> > ...
>
> Rob,
>
>Ah ha ha ha.  I was asking you the other question.  This question I
> was asking Albino's experience on non-English social media accounts. ^^;
>  It does not make sense to forward all the English content to
> non-English social media account, but it does hurt our time and effort
> to translate them instead.  But thanks for your answer anyway. ^_*'
>
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Re: Pages in the social media

2012-05-06 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto

Hi.

@Rob
It was not the intent of the site, Claudio and I are discussing on a port
official .BR. As we are discussing AOOBr there, decided to put him to
finish on the portal.

Thanks for the suggestions, I have no idea about. In EL suggested for other
networks tone down.

Hit the link. ;)

@Imacat
I'll manage them with content read from the list of ooo-dev, official
announcements, and on the blog, the pace of releases and other resources
also told by Rob.

Best,
Albino

Re: Pages in the social media

On 2012/05/06 22:08, Rob Weir said:
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM, imacat  wrote:
>> On 2012/05/06 18:53, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
>>> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho 
 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto :
>>Could I ask how you plan to manage them?  I was thinking about the
>> same thing for Taiwan, but I cannot think of where can I get the content
>> for and the human resource to manage these pages.
> How to find content?  A few sources I use:
> ...

Rob,

Ah ha ha ha.  I was asking you the other question.  This question I
was asking Albino's experience on non-English social media accounts. ^^;
 It does not make sense to forward all the English content to
non-English social media account, but it does hurt our time and effort
to translate them instead.  But thanks for your answer anyway. ^_*'

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Re: Pages in the social media

n Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:05 AM, imacat  wrote:
>    That said, could I setup official OpenOffice account for Taiwan on
> Facebook, Plurk, etc?
>

Oh, I know nothing about Plurk ;-)

>    What is the condition besides linking to www.openoffice.org?  Is it
> OK to link to zh.openoffice.org?
>

That's fine.  The important thing is that we are directing the user
back to the project's website.

Would the page be for traditional and simplified Chinese?   Or only traditional?

(I am ignorant of these things.  Can the average Chinese reader
understand both scripts?)

Facebook and Google+ have built-in tools for allowing multiple users
to co-administer the account.  This is good thing, so you can share
the effort in managing the account.  Twitter has no built-in support
for this, so you would need to rely on outside services for this.

But I know you are active on Google+, so maybe good to start there?
On Google+ they call it a "Google+ Page".  If you go here you should
see a button for creating a new page:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/pages/manage

Of course, you will also want to make a specific proposal on this list
and see if anyone objects (lazy consensus).

-Rob

> On 2012/05/06 21:51, Rob Weir said:
>> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto
>>  wrote:
>>> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho 
>>> hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
>>> Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
>> Similar here, the "website" should be openoffice.org:
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929?sk=info
>>> G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036
>> And same here.  An official project account should be linking back to
>> the project website, not to www.escritoriolivre.org.
>
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Re: Pages in the social media

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM, imacat  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2012/05/06 18:53, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
>> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho 
>>> 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto :
>> As no answer came the suggestion, I created the page in the G + AOOBr (and
>> more):
>> Organize:
>> identi.ca e twitter: @apacheoobr
>> hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
>> Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
>> G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036
>
>    Could I ask how you plan to manage them?  I was thinking about the
> same thing for Taiwan, but I cannot think of where can I get the content
> for and the human resource to manage these pages.
>

How to find content?  A few sources I use:

1) First there is news from the AOO project itself, new blog posts,
new milestones, new accomplishments in the project.

2) Search for new content on the social network itself.  So if you
have a Twitter account, search Twitter for recent posts that mention
"OpenOffice" or "Open Office".

3) Sign up for Google Alerts (http://www.google.com/alerts) to receive
daily email updates of new content related to your keywords.

4) Of course, follow the English-language accounts, @ApacheOO. If
there is a good post there, translate it and repost it.  And if you
find a good local story that might be interesting internationally,
then translate to English and send to @ApacheOO.

As for time and effort needed to manage the pages, an easy
simplification is to do just one.  Facebook attracts more end-users.
Google+ is more technical users.  Twitter is a mix, but good mainly
for short messages.

-Rob

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Re: Pages in the social media

That said, could I setup official OpenOffice account for Taiwan on
Facebook, Plurk, etc?

What is the condition besides linking to www.openoffice.org?  Is it
OK to link to zh.openoffice.org?

On 2012/05/06 21:51, Rob Weir said:
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto
>  wrote:
>> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho 
>> hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
>> Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
> Similar here, the "website" should be openoffice.org:
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929?sk=info
>> G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036
> And same here.  An official project account should be linking back to
> the project website, not to www.escritoriolivre.org.

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Re: Pages in the social media

Hi,

On 2012/05/06 18:53, Albino Biasutti Neto said:
> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho 
>> 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto :
> As no answer came the suggestion, I created the page in the G + AOOBr (and
> more):
> Organize:
> identi.ca e twitter: @apacheoobr
> hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
> Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
> G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036

Could I ask how you plan to manage them?  I was thinking about the
same thing for Taiwan, but I cannot think of where can I get the content
for and the human resource to manage these pages.

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Re: Pages in the social media

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto
 wrote:
> Hi.
>
> 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho 
>
>> Hi
>>
>> 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto :
>> > Alessandro, what think edit page G+ for AOOBr ?
>> > As we have an official page in G+, but not yet have the Brazil.
>>
>> Very good, Albino. For brazilian profile is essential this social
>> networks.  I think that you can do for pt-BR in Twitter and Identi.ca
>> too. I can "help" you as admin of them.
>>
>> @Rob, do you see some problem with this? I trust in Albino, and he
>> works with me in our localization.
>>
>> Best,
>> Claudio
>>
>
> As no answer came the suggestion, I created the page in the G + AOOBr (and
> more):
>
> Organize:
>
> identi.ca e twitter: @apacheoobr
>

The link is here:  http://identi.ca/apacheoobr

I'd like us to be consistent in the branding, so one requests:

Have the link be to http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/ or to
http://www.openoffice.org/But it should not be going to
http://www.escritoriolivre.org.  Part of being an "official" account
is that it promotes the project, not a 3rd party.

> hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr
>
> Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929
>

Similar here, the "website" should be openoffice.org:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929?sk=info

> G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036
>

And same here.  An official project account should be linking back to
the project website, not to www.escritoriolivre.org.

Thanks!

-Rob

> Best,
> Albino

Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/

2012-05-06 Thread info

Dear Alex,

Re:Hong Kong Distributor (Free Software-Free CD-ROM)
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html


Please Change my website URL from
http://www.networkowned.com (Domain illegally transferred to other account)
to
http://www.softwaredistributor.info


Hong Kong
Distributor

Free Software-Free CD-ROM http://www.networkowned.com (invalid) please
change to  http://www.softwaredistributor.info


Grateful if you can change it as soon as possible.


You can find my application email(i...@networkowned.com) for distributor
in your mail archive



Regards
Benjamin Lee
i...@softwaredistributor.info

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


Am 05/06/2012 01:31 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 5/6/12 1:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

The checksums file is ready:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html


It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so
OK.

I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
that page and you will see plenty of broken links.


we can potentially drop one sha checksum ;-)


Yes, for sure.


I have drafted the download page on the project page.


That's good.

An additional link to the (upcoming) official announcement (mail 
archive, blog post, etc.) would be good.



http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html

Review is appreciated.

- downloads of source files via Apache mirrors
- SDK as well
- checksum files directly from dist


Do you have any special reason to show download links also here? All is 
(will be) available in the download area (currently here:
"http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html"; and 
"http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html";).


Otherwise I would suggest that the webpage points only to the already 
existing download webpages. Then we will have less work when updating 
downloads.


Source --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
SDK--> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
Binaries --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
Checksums --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html

If you want to mention the legacy builds it would be great to point also 
here to the respective webpage: 
"http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html";.


If you want to mention the archive in general (prior OOo 3.3.0) this 
link is helping: "http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html";.


Marcus

Re: System or bundled: Which font is used?

2012-05-06 Thread RGB ES

2012/5/6 Pedro Giffuni :
>
> --- Sab 5/5/12, RGB ES  ha scritto:
> ...
>> AOO installs several fonts but not
>> system wide, it install those fonts
>> on /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.4/share/fonts/truetype/
>>
>> Some of those font (DejaVu family, Gentium Basic) are
>> already installed on my system so the question is:
>> which fonts use AOO, the system fonts or the
>> bundled fonts?
>>
>
> Both.
>
> If you want to eliminate some redundancy there is
> a configure option to disable the extra fonts.
>
> cheers,
>
> Pedro.
>

OK, thanks!

Ricardo

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

The checksums file is ready:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html


It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so OK.


Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO 
for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for 
hashes.


Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think 
this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we 
will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.



I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
that page and you will see plenty of broken links.


Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized 
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same 
for the hash files, as you can see here:


http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/

I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF 
mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*


Thanks for your feedback.

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction


On 5/6/12 1:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

The checksums file is ready:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html


It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so OK.

I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
that page and you will see plenty of broken links.


we can potentially drop one sha checksum ;-)

I have drafted the download page on the project page.

http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html

Review is appreciated.

- downloads of source files via Apache mirrors
- SDK as well
- checksum files directly from dist

Juergen

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction