[opensuse] Adding php-mssql shared object to opensuse 10.3 to use freetds

2008-01-25 Thread Jim & Tina Taitt
Hi, 

My name is Jim Taitt, I am running openSUSE 10.3 x86 where I am trying to
build a Website which has to connect to a remote Windows 2003 server over
the internet and connect to MSSQL Server 2000 to process orders.  I have
been able to do this using freetds and the php-mssql library which comes
packaged in Fadora and RHEL, but my whole system of choice is SUSE.  I am a
programmer with a “little” knowledge of linux administration, so please
forgive me if my questions are not expertly written. 

 As far as I can see, OpenSuse does not have the php-mssql module as part of
their distributions.  I have compiled from source freetds and am able to
make a test connection to the remote server from SUSE 10.3.  The part I need
help with is how to compile and add php-mssql to openSuse 10.3 ?  If I were
to compile php from scratch, I would add the configure flag
–with-mssql=/usr/local/freetds. 

 It would be easy if I could just compile the module by itself and just add
it to my existing setup of SUSE, but don’t know what flags to choose for
configure. 

Or better yet, could I get a file with the list of flags to set as they are
in the current compilation of php 5.2.5 as they are in the current
compilation of SUSE 10.3 ,  so I can compile my own complete version of PHP
and have the confidence it is configured correctly to use in a production
environment by using the same flags as used to setup openSuse 10.3.

Oh yes, I have never worked with RPM’s outside of Yast so I hope what I am
asking makes sense in the above context.

Thanks to all for any input.  I have been working on this for a couple of
weeks and am a really concerned that I get it configured correctly….

Jim Taitt
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Huntington Beach, CA. 



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Re: [opensuse] script to rename zypper aliases to something usable!

2008-01-25 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Thursday 24 January 2008 17:33:42 David C. Rankin ste napísal:
> Listmates,
>
>   Here is a cure for the only pain I have with zypper. The default repo
> aliases are unusable unless you like cutting and pasting. 

What is the issue? All aliases not set by user are set by YaST somehwere 
(community repos, installation etc). Maybe that part needs some love.

Stano
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Re: [opensuse] Installing SLED on top of SLES

2008-01-25 Thread Marcin Floryan
On 24/01/2008, Frank Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a little HOWTO for people who are interested in this :-) What I do is
> installing SLES and SLED on top of a SuSE 10.1 installation. Installing
> SLED on SLES (or vice versa) will work the same way.

Frank,

It would be nice to have this info posted on the openSuSE Wiki as
well, where it would be even more accessible. Let me know if you need
any help.

Regards,
Marcin
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[opensuse] Re: KDE4 greeter plugin

2008-01-25 Thread Jan Albrecht
Problem solved:

The one-klick install didn't install kd4-kdm. That provides the greeter plugin.

Jan

On Jan 17, 2008 9:36 AM, Jan Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I#ve updated my 10.3 to KDE4 with the packages from opensuse.org
> But when I try to lock the screen I do get the message:
>
> Will not lock the session, as unlocking would be impossible.
> No appropriate greeter plugin configured.
>
> Anyone of you had the same error? Or does anyone have an idea to solve this?
>
> Thanks
> Jan
>
>



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[opensuse] instaling packages using novell ftp

2008-01-25 Thread carlos
Hello
I have one SLES 10 server (i have buy the license)
For instaling new packages i install from the dvd or cd's.
I must to send this server to another location, remote location.
I have one trouble... for instaling packages i cannot use, remote, the
cd's, hos can i install from one novell ftp?
what configuration must i to change?
thanks

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[opensuse] msgFilterRules.dat mail rules to procmailrc file conversion scripts

2008-01-25 Thread G T Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

All,

For a variety of reasons I wish to transfer my mail filtering rules in
Thunderbird into my server .procmailrc file. Unfortunately, there are
rather a lot of them :-( , so before I hack a script together to do
this, has anyone come across something which does this? Google does not
give much help


- --
==
I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my
telephone.
My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone.

Bjarne Stroustrup
==
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Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

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Re: [opensuse] Without sound after 10.2 update

2008-01-25 Thread Francisco José Cadaval Arrola
Thank you. I'll try it.

2008/1/24, Marcin Floryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 24/01/2008, Francisco José Cadaval Arrola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > After the last system update (10.2) I have lost sound. I don't know
> > how to recover it.
> >
> > What are the first test I must do and where should I start to search
> > for the solution?
> > I just dont know where to find nor how sound system is configured in Linux.
>
> I would suggest starting with identifying the sound card (lspci will
> help you identify) and then the driver for the card. It might be a
> problem with the sound card driver and the alsa sound system. Try
> lsmod | grep snd and see what it gives. You might want to update alsa
> packages from Packman repository. See if there are any entries in
> boot.msg / messages regarding sound system and obviously if alsasound
> is running.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [opensuse] USB to ATA IDE Adapter, howto boot from it?

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

John Andersen wrote:

On Jan 24, 2008 4:33 AM, Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


To find the initrd and vmlinuz files, GRUB uses the BIOS. Consequently,
if the BIOS doesn't allow booting from a USB port, then you can't boot
directly to the USB drive.



This might be true for some values of "boot".

Grub is launched (booted?) by the bios.
After that, it is explicitly told where to find its
initrd/vmlinuz/command.com or whatever
by lines in the /boot/grub/menu.lst.




As long as enough drivers can be made available to handle

> the USB port, Grub itself imposes no limitation on which
> devices it can "boot" from


But if the BIOS doesn't have USB capability, then it
can't find grub on a USB device, forcing you to install
grub on something else.





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Re: [opensuse] System does not boot now

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Chris Arnold wrote:
So if you ran fsck and reported no errors, 

>

I did not run fsck, the system runs it everytime the

> system does not shut down correctly. The subject line
> says does not boot, what would make you think there
> are no errors?
>
at this point just exit or 
ctrl d and that should reboot your server again, and

>> it should come back,
>

Umm, done that and the system still does not boot.

>

what is the message you got just above the "please

>> provide root password " message?
>

The message above password is only control-d reboots

> the system. Messages above that are too many, that's
> why i was asking where to view previous boot messages.
> Here are some of the messages (i hope i choose the
> right ones):

buffer i/o error on device sda3, logical block 29360568
Gett 11 of those with different block numbers
ata1: EH complete
Error reading block 3670071 (attempt to read block

> from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting
> next inode from scan

fsck failed on at least 1 filesystem
Among many other which are too many to read and type

> here, which is why i wanted to know where to view
> these error messages so i could copy and paste.



Block errors...

Time to replace your disk drive.
It's failing.

When is the last time you did a backup?


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Re: [opensuse] mlabel usage?

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Greg Freemyer wrote:

And where do I find mlabel.  I just looked in Yast2 and don't find
anything relevant when I search (OS 10.3)

Tsk, tsk... its part of the mtools package.


Okay, stupid question, but how do I invoke it?

it says "mlabel drive:"  in man mlabel.


it says:
mlabel [-vcsn] [-N serial] drive:[new_label]



I don't have a lot of drive letters on my machine. :)


try this way

mlabel -s /dev/whatever:

If that shows you a label, then try this

mlabel /dev/whatever:new_label_here



This is for a specific script for which I will have at least 3
physical drives connected to the box.

I will know the mount point and can get the /dev/SDxx or /dev/HDxx
entry, but the drive letter?

Thanks
Greg




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Re: [opensuse] Open Source Graphics Cards

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Sloan wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

installing an Nvidia driver on your computer doesn't
violate the GPL.

But Nvidia's closed-source driver DOES violate it.

In other words, you're not the criminal, Nvidia is.


Nobody's ever explained to me how that can be.


By the terms of the GPL
If you're not distributing the code, you are
not required you to provide a source for it.

nVidia IS distributing code, therefore they are
required to provide source for it.

> They have tried, but their answers make no sense,
> and fall apart as soon as you take a close look.


I don't see what good this witch hunt can do -

1. nvidia makes video cards.
2. they write drivers for those cards, for windoze, solaris, freebsd and
linux
3. the linux license nazis scream "lawbreaker!"
4. nvidia say "fine, these linux nuts are too much trouble to deal with.
no more linux drivers"
5. the linux license nazis high five each other and do a victory dance
6. linux users are stuck with crappy graphics
7. fade to black


Yeah.  The big problem is that these and other
hardware makers seem to think that they're in
the business of selling software, and treat the
specs for writing a driver as if they are the
gravest of all military secrets.

They need to pull their heads out of their
asses.  Anybody competent in the art of
designing graphics cards, gpus, and programming
the firmware already knows what's going on --
in fact, we (the computer engineering field)
had most of this stuff worked out 20-30 years
ago -- and we're STILL primarily waiting for
the technology to catch up.

The only secrets are the precise format of
the data being written to/read from the
graphics cards.  And all it does is make
the vendors look like paranoid assholes.


Joe






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Re: [opensuse] hello, please, help

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:

Sunny wrote:

2008/1/24 Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

hello everybody, i have a problem, well, first, please worry for my bad
english, second, i need Nero for Linux and i have OpenSuse KDE 10.3
installed, and i get the file of Nero for Linux and, it's a BIN file...
anyone can tell me how install that file? because i can't and i don't
know how... please... ¡¡thank you!!



Why do you need Nero? K3B can do everything Nero can.

All right... i don't know of the existence of K3B :D sorry,

> well, i'm newbie in OpenSuse, i was working with Ubuntu...
> and, it's a more "easy" OS than OpenSuse (and OpenSuse, i

Remember that when it comes to computers, "easy" generally
means "inflexible."  The less things you have to learn
about, the less choices you have.


> feel, is more powerful and pretty) and, thank you for the
> "TIP", and, can u tell me how i can "convert" a normal music
> CD into a MP3 Files? in winbugs i use MusicMatch Jukebox...
> and i don't know what use in OpenSuse, please.. can u tell me??

Try kaffeine (it's part of the KDE package).

A lot of MP3 players also play .ogg (Ogg Vorbis) files,
which provide somewhat better quality sound reproduction
for the same compression level.


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Re: [opensuse] System does not boot now

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Chris Arnold wrote:

Using 10.3 and today the system was running way slow.

> So i ran top and see that xgl was using 7-8% of the
> processor along with some other things but nothing
> over 10%. I tried to shutdown using kde "leave" but
> the menu never showed up. So, i pressed te power button
> to shut it down. Upon reboot, i am left at a CLI error
> that in maintenance mode you can only control-D to
> reboot. I give the root password and am left at
> filesystem-repair/ prompt. Where do i find the log
> messages for the last boot?

> I looked in /var/log/boot.log and boot.msg.
> Are there some "disk checking" tools i can run?
> I am using the default boot manager (i believe
> it is grub). Thanks for any help. Oh, i also ran
> a hard drive disk test and the drive appears to
> still be good.

try this:

mount -a

That should do an fsck on all of your unmounted drives,
because they'll all have the "not shut down cleanly"
bit still set.




Chris




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Re: [opensuse] Without sound after 10.2 update

2008-01-25 Thread Marcin Floryan
On 25/01/2008, Francisco José Cadaval Arrola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you. I'll try it.

Start running alsaconfig as root - this usually solves problems. If
not, also make sure you have the most up-to-date alsa (or update from
Community repos)

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Bob Sutor: While you’re waiting, don’t save in OOXML format

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Per Jessen wrote:

http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=2031

"Saving your documents in OOXML format right now is probably
about the riskiest thing you can do if you are concerned with
long term interoperability."


That's an understatement.



Bob Sutor is Vice President, Open Source and Standards, IBM.



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Re: [opensuse] Installing SLED on top of SLES

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Frank Steiner wrote:

Hi,

a little HOWTO for people who are interested in this :-) What I do is
installing SLES and SLED on top of a SuSE 10.1 installation. Installing
SLED on SLES (or vice versa) will work the same way.


That presumes that the RPM's for SLES and the RPM's for SLED
are identical for each package.

Seems to me some things could be tweaked just a little bit
differently since the two products are aimed at substantially
different target machines (SLED providing desktop applications,
and SLES providing centralized services), and thus differing
presumptions of memory availability, chron jobs, etc.

I'm willing to bet that your frankenstein installation isn't
as coherent as you believe it to be without a LOT of checking
to prove it to be so.

I can see storing the SLED RPMs in a directory tree on your
SLES machine for local availability... installing one on
top of the other... not something I would advise others
to do without spending some significant time comparing
all of the packages on both distributions.



Why doing that? We need hosts that have the huge software repository that
you find in a (open)SuSE system but can run longer than 2 years. So my
idea was to install SLES and SLED over the SuSE system so that I replace
almost all packages with their SLES/D pendants and can use the SLES/D
security updates for a while.

This works because SuSE 10.1, SLES10 and SLED10 have a common code base.
There are a few packages that are in SuSE and not in SLES/D, very useful
ones like sshfs or wipe. Of course you can install SLES+D and add those
few packages from SuSE if you need them. Or you install SLES+D on top
of SuSE.

I describe what I did for installing SLES+D on top of SuSE 10.1. The
decision you must take is what should be your main system. In my
case, suse-release.rpm is installed, marking the system as a SuSE
system in /etc/SuSE-release. If you start with SLES and install SLED
on top, you will have sles-release.rpm, thus a SLES system + SLED
packets. If you start with SLED, you have a SLED system + SLES rpms
and sled-release.rpm.
Usually that should not be very important.

What I did (very short description because I expect that people who want to
do that know about autoyast, pxe etc.):

- made a local NFS repository for SuSE 10.1

- setup AY installation for SuSE 10.1 from that repository.
  Due to some bugs in the 10.1 installer I use the SLES10 installer, 
  i.e. "linux" and "initrd" from the SLES10 loader/ subdir for PXE.

  Note that it is not possible to use the SLES10-SP1 installed for
  installing SuSE 10.1, but for combining SLES SP1 and SLED SP1.

- setup an updates/ directory below the SuSE sources with  the
  create_update_source.sh script from autoyast2-utils.

- rsync all RPMs from SLED-SP1, SLES-SP1 and SDK-SP1 into
  that updates/ dir. I.e.,
  rsync -avP /{SLED10,SLES10,SDK10}-SP1/suse/ 
/10.1/SuSE/updates/suse/

  You can indeed rsync the i586 and x86_64 versions of SLES/D into
  the same updates/suse/ dir. If you install SLED on SLES you don't
  need that because they have seperate i586 and x86_64 versions anyway.

- in updates/suse/ call the /usr/bin/create_package_descr script like
  create_package_descr -l english -l german -x `pwd`/setup/descr/EXTRA_PROV
  
  or whatever languages you need. The script is part of autoyast2-utils, too.


- make the updates/ dir known by adding sth. like
  nfs:10.1/SuSE/updates
  to the file /10.1/SuSE/add_on_products

When you start AY now, it will just take the RPMs at SuSE/updates/suse/
as additional RPM repository, not knowing about SLES and SLED. To the best
of my knowledge this is the only way to solve the conflict between SuSE,
SLES and SLED. Any other method (adding the whole SLES directory as addon
product e.g.) will result in a conflict at least between suse-release.rpm,
sles-release.rpm and sled-release.rpm.

Now you can chose your packages in AY or add your own selection (if
based on SuSE) or pattern (if based on SLES) in updates/suse/setup/descr/.
Check the AY mailing list or AY homepage for further details.

One problem I stepped on: We are using lilo and with the new package set
there was some problem when AY tries to write the lilo.conf after installing
all packages. Maybe because I use the SLES10 installer to install packages
from SLES SP1. Some AY libraries seem to be incompatible there. I guess 
the problem wouldn't occur when you just install SLED on SLES. For my setup 
I just removed "limal-bootloader-*" from the updates/suse/ dir and it worked
again. 


Now what about updates: I guess this will be a problem using the SuSE tools
because you system will identify as SuSE or SLES e.g., but you will need
updates for e.g. SLED, too. I never used the SuSE update mechanism, so I can't
tell. We have been using autorpm here for years. This is a perl script that
works on arbitrary directories (or ftp servers) and just scans all RPMs
in there, resolves dependencies and takes the latest versions of all
packages. There are man

Re: [opensuse] hello, please, help

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:

hello everybody, i have a problem, well, first, please worry for my bad
english, second, i need Nero for Linux and i have OpenSuse KDE 10.3
installed, and i get the file of Nero for Linux and, it's a BIN file...
anyone can tell me how install that file? because i can't and i don't
know how... please... ¡¡thank you!!


Actually, you don't need Nero for Linux.

There's several CD and DVD-burning applications available.

K3B, X-CDRoast and Gnome CD Recorder and others will all
burn CD's and DVD's for you.

From the KDE menu, look in
Applications => Multimedia => CD/DVD Burning.

Note that the first time you run K3B, you have to run
it from root to configure it.  Then get out, and you can
do your other work from your normal user account.


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Janne Karhunen wrote:

On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 08:54 -0800, Greg KH wrote:


And no, I don't have all the hardware at all, that's impossible.  I've
written drivers for devices where I have never seen the hardware, and
they work just fine (or so I'm told.)  Having the hardware, or even
access to it is not a requirement at all to do development and/or
maintenance.


Given that you want to be absolutely certain you didn't 
break it you effectively need to retest. But obviously
once again we are serving and relying on hordes of Joe 
Random Hackers that will retest the driver and report. 
Single regression for 'normal' user would probably 
render the whole thing useless.




So most certainly maintenance is not done. And actually,
most of the testing effort done against the original driver
was just rendered useless with the API tweak.

No, not at all.  That's just not how the Linux kernel development
process works, sorry.  I can go into the whole testing process if you
really want to know, but that has nothing to do with the change of APIs.


Well, duh. Of course any change, API or otherwise, can
trigger a regression. And the regressions make it sure 
real life John/Jane Does fail using Linux. I use the
word 'regression' because 99.999% of all imaginable 
things have used to work in some version of Linux..




I find it odd that people who do not have experience in doing Linux
kernel development and API changes would insist that the current model
we are using is broken...


No no, you got this all wrong. I'm not saying I know 
a better solution - far from it. All I'm trying to 
say is that current model does *not* serve _regular_ 
users. Linux is a hacker tool for hackers. That's 
what the topic was all about.




No, not at all.  You should be able to drop in a new kernel just fine,
with only minor package updates at times.

Joe Random Hacker can, regular user can't.

rpm -ihv new_kernel_package.rpm

zypper install new_kernel_package.rpm


You really can't be serious here. Now, please explain
in detail what regular user would do if that left him/
her without a working kernel. This happens at least 
once per month to me.


Not a single IT department on this whole planet would 
allow you to reinstall kernel to get one bloody driver
update. It usually takes gazillion geeks to fix the 
regressions that show'd up. This costs some serious

money. Really.




or use some gui tool.  People do it all the time.  And they help us out
with testing in ways that we developers can not do.  So yes, "regular
user" can do this, and they do, every single day.


You obviously have very different view of 'regular 
user' than the rest of us. John/Jane Doe can NOT 
help you debug a kernel. Nor does he/she wish to.

Heck, she doesn't even know what kernel IS.




I'm a systems engineer (and I've spent my entire time
in the Unix world, going back to 1983, with some
experience with Linux -- all my home machines are Linux)
and frankly, even I don't have the confidence to be
doing the kinds of things that Greg is talking about.

Frankly, if something goes wrong, I don't want to
spend the time trying to undo it all.  So, I wait
for the "official" software updates with everything
all worked out.

And, until this mess is worked out with the 3D cards,
i'm just not using hardware 3D, unless it's OpenGL.

I don't need the headaches.



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Re: [opensuse] LiveCD for easily solving Disk and boot problems

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Philippe Landau wrote:

Chris Arnold wrote:
So if you ran fsck and reported no errors, 
I did not run fsck, the system runs it everytime the system does not 
shut down correctly. The subject line says does not boot, what would 
make you think there are no errors?
at this point just exit or ctrl d and that should reboot your server 
again, and it should come back,

Umm, done that and the system still does not boot.
what is the message you got just above the "please provide root 
password " message?
The message above password is only control-d reboots the system. 
Messages above that are too many, that's why i was asking where to 
view previous boot messages. Here are some of the messages (i hope i 
choose the right ones):

buffer i/o error on device sda3, logical block 29360568
Gett 11 of those with different block numbers
ata1: EH complete
Error reading block 3670071 (attempt to read block from filesystem 
resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan

fsck failed on at least 1 filesystem
Among many other which are too many to read and type here, which is 
why i wanted to know where to view these error messages so i could 
copy and paste.

I am often in this situation where an error on just one disk
out of the many i use prevents Linux from booting.
Is there a LiveCD that would make it easy for a simple user to




- repair file system damage
- out-comment trouble making entries in /etc/fstab
  (removing troubled or missing disks from boot mounting instructions)


The installation CD1 or DVD

Choose repair system.



Kind regards Philippe




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Re: [opensuse] Yast Monitor Database not Updated for Recent 10.3 Install - No Acer 2216W

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

David C. Rankin wrote:

Mates,

This is one of the things that is driving my crazy. I have 2 boxes 
that have identical Acer 2216W displays. Both had previously run SuSE 
10.0 and the Yast Monitor database had the exact display "Acer 2216W" 
that yast would automatically choose and properly setup under sax2.


First machine updated December time frame, yast had and properly 
selected the "Acer 2216W" for the 10.3 install. This Monday I had to 
update the other machine and Yast now selected the Vesa --> 1280x1024 
monitor. I thought, "no problem, I'll just select the right one." 
WRONGO! The "Acer 2216W" monitor is nowhere to be found in this install. 
WTF? These two installs are all from the same .iso? How could that be?


Is there or was there some monitor database update that should have 
been utilized in this install that wasn't? If so, where do I get it? Has 
anyone else seen such random nonsense on the installs they are doing?


It is a pain to have to calculate modelines and manually set monitor 
width heights and H and W freq. ranges when they were just there in the 
last install and they were there on this very same box for the 10.0 
install.


Grumbling, but concerned. Can you help!


This is why, before I do an install to a new release,
I first do this:

# cp -r /etc /home

since I don't overwrite /home during the process.

That way, if I need anything from the old configuration,
it's immediately evailable.






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Re: [opensuse] hello, please, help

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:

PerfectReign wrote:

On Thu, January 24, 2008 9:12 am, Sunny wrote:
  

2008/1/24 Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


hello everybody, i have a problem, well, first, please worry for my
bad
english, second, i need Nero for Linux and i have OpenSuse KDE 10.3
installed, and i get the file of Nero for Linux and, it's a BIN
file...
anyone can tell me how install that file? because i can't and i
don't
know how... please... ¡¡thank you!!

  

Why do you need Nero? K3B can do everything Nero can.


...and soon it will be running in Windows. :)

To Victor - a bin file is usually an executable. You go to the command
line and type ./myfile.bin to run it from the directory where you
downloaded it.

However, I always thought Nero came as a .rpm or a .deb file. You
should have gotten an RPM file.
  


It's true, i get Nero in RPM File, and it's "installable" with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and i was wrong, i must talk about GoogleEarthLinux.bin
and, i want install with ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin and doesn't work... and
with two clicks in the file... and doesn't work too... and i don't know
what to do :(



#1: Linux is not windows.

Most software installation will require learning a
couple command line commands.  Clicking won't help you,
unless the software comes in a self-extracting shell
archive, a form I haven't seen used for distribution
since the early 1990's.


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Re: [opensuse] Root antivir ?.

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:




Thank you Carlos for your reply. I can see your point, but that again 
leads me to how I can solve the problem sent with my first query:


# ./antivir-gui

WARNING: root is not in `antivir' group

ERROR: Can't connect to an X server. Please try the following:

   ^



- generate or merge `.Xauthority'. You can merge with:

 ^^  ^^

$ xauth merge /.Xauthority

  ^^




How do I set this. I cannot follow the xauth merge information, but 
think it maybe could be solved with yast, but how ?


did you read the error message, and try FOLLOWING
THE DIRECTIONS?


I did. But as I wrote in the first msg, I did not understand quite how to.
If I did it was a waste of time for my fellow friends here!!!



# xauth merge /home/username_here/.Xauthority

If that doesn't do it, then:

# touch /root/.Xauthority,


# ls -l .Xauthority
-rw--- 1 root root 198 Jan 24 12:17 .Xauthority

You can see, that .Xauthority exists.

and then try the xauth command again.


You still think that now ?.


I had a problem similar to this once.

I erased my .Xauthority and I either allowed the
system to regenerate it, or I did this:

# cp ~akulkis/.Xauthority  /root/.Xauthority

It's been 4 years, and I only had to do it once,
so I forget.


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Re: [opensuse] complete system halt..

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Sampsa Riikonen wrote:

Dear List,

I have suse 10.3 installed on a hp tx1000 laptop.
I am using KDE.

Ultimately, the system has become very unstable..
It halts completely very frequently. I have observed
this halt while browsing the web (it has happened both
with firefox and the konqueror), but I suppose it can
happen with any program..(?)


That sounds like overheating.

Rendering web pages can be very CPU - intensive.

My laptop's fan runs at a one of three speeds,
depending on CPU temp...and web browsing is the
primary cause of almost all occurances of the fan
going to its highest speed.


The solution involves managing your CPU temp, making
sure that your air inlet is kept both clean and away
from any obstruction (like resting the intake right
on your leg).  And get a laptop cooler thing that
plugs into a USB port and keeps a good airflow under
the whole laptop.


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Re: [opensuse] USB to ATA IDE Adapter, howto boot from it?

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

John Andersen wrote:

On Jan 24, 2008 9:29 AM, Philipp Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

* Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080124 11:23]:


So, part of the solution is recompiling the kernel
to include the USB module (and all the others which
the USB module depends on).


Nonsense! You add the necessary modules to INITRD_MODULES in
/etc/sysconfig/kernel and then afterwards call mkinitrd. It's that simple!

Philipp


Have you actually DONE this?  It sounds like speculation
to me.



NAME
   mkinitrd, mk_initrd - create initrd disk image

Sounds correct to me.


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[opensuse] Re: Top-Bottom Posting

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Neil wrote:

On Jan 23, 2008 3:10 PM, Donald D Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is an example of top-posting. In other words, my reply is posted at
the top of this message. Now scroll all the way down to the bottom of
this message to see an example of bottom posting and a longer
explanation of posting models.





This is an example of bottom posting. In other words, my reply is posted
at the bottom of the message. Which to use is a subject that takes on an
almost religious fervor. Proponents of each posting model (see below)
can give dozens of reasons why their model is best. In practice, the
solution to which model is used is set by the owner(s) of the list. The
 owner(s) of this list appear to prefer bottom posting. A couple other
things that can get you yelled at on this list is sending html mail and
hijacking a thread. Hijacking is changing the topic being discussed
without changing the subject line. See the subject line of this reply to
see one way to change it. Okay. As promise here's some more info on the
posting models, probably more than you want to know. Anyway...




Okay I'll try and observe the simpel rule offered there: "be a sheep
and folow the first one" :P (just kiddin, It's a good idea)
If I read correctly I was the first one to reply and therefor set the
rule to toppost, true?
I personally prefer to read top posts. In the unlikely event I forgot
what the original message was about I can always read on. In top
posting you do not have to search where the new part starts. In bottom
posting you have to find where the reply started, and start reading
there. I am so unfocust I usually start reading what I already know,
so bottom posting costs me a lot of time. Top posts however, I can
simply start reading at the beginning and read the msg when I need it.

Neil


Top posting is great for business-memo types of communications.
[Although because nobody ever TRIMS anything, each message
just gets bigger and bigger and bigger..which is the first
reason why top-posting is really bad for this list (archiving).
The other reason it's bad is because when trying to discuss
certain details within the thread, the replies are in the
entirely WRONG place to follow the conversation, especially
when several ideas have been suggested, tried, and have all
failed.  In these cases, top-posting makes everything a
complete mess which is next to impossible to sort out.

this
> like
> > reads
> > > nobody
> > > > And


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Billie Walsh wrote:

On 01/24/2008 Jonathan Ervine wrote:

You can complain to the hardware vendor, you can take your business
to
hardware vendors that provide good support or at least information to
the
kernel developers. Things are improving, and there is still work to
do, but
to lay the blame at the kernel developers door is a bit unfair, even
if it is
the easier target.

Jon


I never said these were "kernel developer" problems. Just that if the
Linux Community wants Average Joe User to move over then these are
problems that will have to be solved so they "just work".



The solution is for YOU, the user, to Buy ONLY from vendors who
do one of the following:

1: Write proper Linux drivers for their products

2: Work with the kernel developers

or

3: Release the specs needed to write a proper driver.

In other words, ONLY buy equipment that's listed on the
supported hardware lists.

If it's not supported, then vote with your MONEY,
and go buy something else that *IS* supported.


Average Joe User doesn't want to jump through hoops to make it work. He
just wants a computer that he can turn on and EVERYTHING works without
hastles.


Then you have to apply the appropriate ECONOMIC INCENTIVE
for hardware vendors to give proper support.

Back in the 1980's, EVERYTHING came with a complete spec
sheet, or even booklet, if needed, so that anyone could
write drivers for a card.




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Re: [opensuse] WARNING! - Latest Update Kills Server

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

peter wrote:

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Marcus Meissner schrieb:

|>>> What you /probably/ mean is that you updated either the kernel, or
|>>> some part of the X system, and now it won't run the X server.
|>> You're probably correct. The update was automatic and labeled as
|>^

|> Trying to do everything the easy way is what got you in trouble.

Isn't it what computers suppose to do? Easier our lives?


Yes.

But updates are not yet reliable enough to let the system
do it just because someone popped a patch out on a suse
repository someplace.

Automatic update is meant for use inside an organizational
environment... so that instead of manually updating 500
desktops, you can just pop a patch onto a server, and let
the machines respond to it.

The point is, you should never allow a system to be
updated without YOU knowing what is happening.

Otherwise, you soon discover that the "automatic" way
does NOT make your life easier.

 Case in point  --- the OP's current experience.




| Especially if he installed NVIDIA drivers manually.

Is there something wrong with that? I don't think so.
A short pop up with 'You need to reinstall your third party nvidia
driver after installing this xorg mandatory update' would do the work.



Except the kernel and the driver were not upgraded together,
which leads to problems like this.


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Re: [opensuse] Corrupted display coming out of sleep.

2008-01-25 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Tom Cada wrote:

I have a HP DV9000 series notebook which uses a Nvidia GEForce 6150
video card. I am currently running kernel 2.6.22.13-0.3x86_64.

I updated the drivers using the "one click" install from the openSUSE
community web site. The new driver version is Nvidia 169.07.

Now, when the video goes to sleep say with a close of the notebook
case, when the case is re-opened, the display is not repainted
properly but is completely corrupted. I have to restart the X server
using  and log in again to get the proper
display. The same think happens when the display is shut down by the
power control process.


Try this...if you're using KDE, make all of your desktops have
a different background. Switching from one desktop to another
desktop will force a repaint of the whole screen.

Also ... check ctrl-alt-F10 for clues there


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Philippe Landau

Jonathan Ervine wrote:
Complain to Atheros or whoever manufactures your wireless card. Ah yes, they 
won't listen to you, so it's easier to complain here. 

Wow, obviously you feel the need to attack a list member here.
Billie Walsh (below) never complained, just explained his troubles.
Maybe Novell could instead try to find a reply to the question above ?
Did Novell research that question and what did they find, Jonathan ?

Philippe

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Jonathan Ervine wrote:

On Friday 25 January 2008 11:58:30 Billie Walsh wrote:

> On 01/24/2008 Jonathan Ervine wrote:

> > You can complain to the hardware vendor, you can take your business
> > to
> > hardware vendors that provide good support or at least information to
> > the
> > kernel developers. Things are improving, and there is still work to
> > do, but
> > to lay the blame at the kernel developers door is a bit unfair, even
> > if it is
> > the easier target.
> >
> > Jon

>
> I never said these were "kernel developer" problems. Just that if the
> Linux Community wants Average Joe User to move over then these are
> problems that will have to be solved so they "just work".

Obviously he does not complain, instead explains his opinion.

Why is it the responsibility of the 'Linux community' to fix problems with 
hardware vendors not supplying the code to run their hardware or working with 
the Linux driver project? How is the 'Linux community' supposed to solve 
these problems? You're mailing to a Linux list, I think your list of 
complaints is better directed elsewhere. Your email was also a direct reply 
to one of the Linux kernel developers - hence why it seemed your complaints 
were directed there...



> Average Joe User doesn't want to jump through hoops to make it work. He
> just wants a computer that he can turn on and EVERYTHING works without
> hastles.


Then use the nv, radeon, Intel drivers for video and check the hardware before 
purchase? Even on Windows EVERYTHING doesn't work without hassles - you still 
have to install vendor supplied drivers or visit websites to install drivers. 
(Possibly, at a stretch, Macs provide the computing nirvana you're seeking)



> Me personally, I made a decision to move over and deal with things as
> they come up. 

Does that sound like Billie is complaining ?


> I have gotten my TV cards [ supported ] to work, off and
> on. It's just way less hastle to turn on a TV than fart around in Yast
> to get it to work every little bit. The WiFi card is "supported" but
> about every third or fourth time I turn it on the damned thing won't
> connect. Then I have to fart around with the setup to get it working
> again. Most of the time if I'm in the computer room I just plug in the
> cable.

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Re: [opensuse] Virtualbox versus WMware

2008-01-25 Thread Teruel de Campo MD

On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 08:44 +0100, Jos van Kan wrote:
> Jerry Feldman schreef:
> > On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:35:02 +0100
> > Philippe Landau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Maura Edelweiss Monville wrote:
> >>> Since I have to use MS Office every
> >>> now and then I would consider to run alternatively 
> >>> Windows and SuSE through WMware. Now I run MS  Office
> >>> through CrossOveR.
> >>> Is WMware stable  and reliable ?
> >> Yes, others recommend VirtualBox though (free too).
> >> Or if it is just for that: Crossover Office, which is not free.
> >> Which one is easier to install and backup ?
> > 
> > I found Virtualbox to be a bit easier to install than VMWare. 
> > However, VMWare, Virtualbox, WINE and Crossover Office (essentially
> > WINE +) are all excellent products.  
> > 
> > I think I would recommend using CrossoverOffice for Maura.
> > CrossoverOffice and WINE are Linux native programs (and libraries) that
> > fool Windows applications into believing they are running on Windows.
> > Therefore, all your files can be kept on your Linux file system and
> > available to you from Linux. 
> 
> I found CrossOverOffice excruciatingly slow when using an Access database to
> print labels in Word. (About the only use I have for XP, apart from playing
> bridge on the net. :-) Now I use XP on Vmware and access my Linux filesystem
> with Samba (or whatever it is called now, cifs I believe). I also print via
> Samba, although in theory XP should be able to access the CUPS-server, but I
> never could get that to work. VMware is stable as a rock and in my set up you
> must not forget to restart the smb and nmb deamons after a Samba security
> update. :-) In short,  YMMV.
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Jos van Kanregistered Linux user #152704

Jos,

Crossover works great with word, excel and powerpoint not Access. BTW I
do not know anybody (:-) using Access, even MS do not use access for
what I heard (?). There are a zillion way to print labels. This is my
approach: I use evolution for my list of contacts and I do the labels
under OO. If you need to use Access then you are using the correct
approach: VMware etc or multiboot.
-=terry=-

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Re: [opensuse] mlabel usage?

2008-01-25 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-25 at 00:20 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


try this way

mlabel -s /dev/whatever:


No, drive is a letter, MsDos style.

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Re: [opensuse] hello, please, help

2008-01-25 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2008-01-24 at 11:00 -0600, Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:


hello everybody, i have a problem, well, first, please worry for my bad
english,


¿Sabes que hay otra lista en español?

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Re: [opensuse] instaling packages using novell ftp

2008-01-25 Thread mourik jan c heupink



I have one trouble... for instaling packages i cannot use, remote, the
cd's, hos can i install from one novell ftp?
what configuration must i to change?


I always copy the installation cd's (or dvd) to the local harddisk of 
the machine, and then use Yast / Software / Installation Source to add 
this directory. (or download iso's, and add those)


From then on, no need to change cd's anymore.

Hope that helps,
Mourik Jan
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Re: [opensuse] amavisd warning failure?

2008-01-25 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> The Wednesday 2008-01-23 at 15:57 +0200, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
> 
>> Looking at the Alt-Ctrl-F10 tty I see that anavis is warning that 'all
>> primary virus scanners failed, considering backups'
> 
> It only means that you don't have an antivirus installed. Once you
> install any one, amavis will detect and use it. Or don't install any,
> and disable antivirus checking:

Most strange since I have both amavis and clamav installed.?? Although
Linux 'doesn't' get virii, I am receiving mail from Windows boxes and
would like to check the stuff before I send it on to more windows boxes.

What next, un-install and then reinstall amavis and clamav and anything
else to do with virii i.e. ignoring the dependency warnings and
continuing as the dependencies will be met when the app is re-installed?

> @bypass_virus_checks_maps = (1);  # controls running of anti-virus code

And it can be accessed how as 'man' has not heard of it and
etc/sysconfig hasn't either?

Regards
Hylton
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[opensuse] Talking about Linux usage.....this in from Lightscribe.

2008-01-25 Thread Fred A. Miller
The following is a response to me from Lightscribe. There is some hope 
yet..


Fred

Hello Fred,

Thank you for your request for help.

LightScribe is just starting support for Linux, and we apologize for the 
limited support.


At this point, the only applications available for Linux are the 
LightScribe Simple Labeler and LaCie 4L. LightScribe has released a 
public SDK for Linux and would really like to see some Linux developers 
pick up and use our SDK and start creating some labeling applications. 
Again, I apologize for the limited support.



If you have further questions or comments, please feel free to reply to 
this message.



Best Regards,
John Matthews

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux

2008-01-25 Thread Lincoln Rutledge
There's a good article this month in Dr. Dobbs' Journal about the Brazilian 
development culture.  They have always had a 'must be grown here' ethic.  They 
banned DOS in the 80's, wrote LUA, and adopted Linux three years ago as a 
government IT plan.  It's only second to the US in number of skilled 
developers.  Sun GPL'd java because of Brazil.  And if Microsoft doesn't at 
least open up the sources for their libraries, eventually people are going to 
stop slamming their hand in the door on purpose and write in an environment 
where they do have source for the libraries.

Seriously, grepping through libraries beats printStackTrace().

Why would you pay for pain when there is pain and pleasure for free? :)

Linc
 

Lincoln Rutledge
Network Engineer
OSC Networking
800-627-6420

>>> "M. Fioretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/25/08 8:55 AM >>> 

On Mon, January 21, 2008 4:58 am, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

> With AutoCad, the better approach is to get them to port
> to Linux
> Of course, this is difficult to do as individuals, but
> small to medium-sized IT departments can.  You tell the
> AutoCad rep that the company's strategic direction is
> to move from Winows XP to Linux, and that if they want
> to continue selling, they have to keep up. IF not,
> you're going to be buying SDRC Ideas, or some other
> product that fits into your company's plans to NOT
> migrate to Vista.
>
> The threat of permanent loss of sales is an excellant
> motivator to these sorts of companies.

The problem is that such threats are only plausible if the customer
doesn't have plenty of data locked in a format that only Autocad
can fully understand, or will never receive from partners or potential
customers files in such formats that need to be read or modified. Not
really likely, see:

cfr the Autocad paragraph and links in the second part of:
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/focus_format_history/

Same scenario here:

> Once Linux captures a significant share of business desktops

this won't happen until those business users continue to receive
(or are required to send) files in the latest Microsoft Office formats,
whatever that is in any given moment.

In both cases, the most effective strategy, even if it's unglamourous,
to get to the point where you can really do everything you need under
Linux may be to demand laws that force all Public Administrations to
only accept, store or distribute files in non proprietary formats, or
at least formats that are 100% guaranteed to be fully usable under any
operating system, with _more_ than one software program.

Once businesses know that to keep selling goods or services to the state
or city Government they MUST deliver contracts, bids, technical drawings,
whatever, in formats that are completely usable with any operating sytems,
the rest will happen by itself.

And much sooner than if we wait for businesses who couldn't care less
of the license of the software they use, not when changing it would make
their existing files less readable (= interfere with "business as usual").

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Re: [opensuse] question

2008-01-25 Thread Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda
Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Victor,
>
> Please put something informative in the Subject: header of your messages 
> to this list!
>
> Almost everything posted here starts as a question. And since the volume 
> of messages on this list is so high, many subscribers need to be able 
> to skim through the list and concentrate on those messages that 
> interest them or which they may be able to answer.
>
> Randall Schulz
>
>
> On Friday 25 January 2008 10:49, Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
>   
>> ...
>> 
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>
> Correo escaneado contra virus
> Subdireccion de Tecnologia de la Informacion del ISSSTE
>   

ok, i get it... and sorry for the bad subject mail... i apologize. :(


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Re: [opensuse] postfix relay host problem.

2008-01-25 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-25 at 20:02 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:


Carlos E. R. wrote:


So... what is the proper configuration of the transport file, so that
all mails are sent through my ISP relay host, with some exceptions,
like local mail?




That part I solved in the transport file with this syntax:

lists.sourceforge.net   :
users.sourceforge.net   :

localhost   :
valinor :
nimrodel.valinor:
.localhost  :
.valinor:
.nimrodel.valinor   :

#Default:
*smtp:[smtp.telefonica.net]




I think I also need to define my transport based on the "FROM"
address, not the destination, but I don't know or rather forgot if
this is possible. Guess I'll have to RTFM. O:-)


Hola Carlos,

I think you need to look up the sender_dependent_relayhost_maps
parameter in postfix.


Ah! Yes, that's it.

But this feature has almost no documentation. The only text I found is in 
"RELEASE_NOTES-2.3":


- - Sender-dependent smarthost lookup tables.  The maps are searched
  with the sender address and with the sender @domain.  The result
  overrides the global relayhost setting, but otherwise has identical
  behavior. See the postconf(5) manual page for more details.

  Example:
/etc/postfix/main.cf:
sender_dependent_relayhost_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay



And the postconf(5) manual page doesn't clarify much:

   sender_dependent_relayhost_maps (default: empty)

   A sender-dependent override for the global relayhost parameter
   setting. The tables are searched by the envelope sender address and
   @domain.

   This information is overruled with relay_transport,
   default_transport and with the transport(5) table.

   For safety reasons, this feature does not allow $number
   substitutions in regular expression maps.

   This feature is available in Postfix 2.3 and later.


But there is no sample "sender_relay" file to guide me :-/

I have just googled that parameter and found many people asking for a 
solution for the very same problem I have: sending to diferent smtp relay 
hosts depending on the "from" address, and using the correct auth id each 
time for each server, based as well on the from address.


I have a lot to read...


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[opensuse] Difference between Yast->Group Mgmt. and groupadd

2008-01-25 Thread David C. Rankin

Listmates,

	When adding a group with Yast, the group is added with an 'x' for the 
unset password:


ochiltree:x:1002:david

If the group is added with 'groupadd' an '!' is used for the password:

dcr:!:1051:david

Why? What is the difference?


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Re: [opensuse] Strange SATA problems with openSUSE

2008-01-25 Thread Tom Patton

On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 15:43 +0100, Clayton wrote:
> I've posted a couple times about this with no replies yet
> as anyone encountered this before?  Could it be a hardware issue.. a
> failing SATA controller on the motherboard, or is it some obscure
> Linux thing?
> 
> 
> C.
I can't add any meaningful info, but a month or so ago there were
several posts of issues with sata, including my case (an Asus A7V600
MB /w 2 sata drives).  The initial sluggish performance and the
resultant crash ate all the log messages and one drive.  I have not had
time to investigate or re-create the issue.  I am rather certain that it
happened after an online update, about 2 months after going from 10.2 to
10.3.  I do believe there is a grimlin lurking here, and not a hardware
issue. (My present config of 1 sata and 1 EIDE is fine).

Tom in NM


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Re: [opensuse] Postfix - howto deliver mail for user to 2 machines?

2008-01-25 Thread David C. Rankin

Sandy Drobic wrote:

David C. Rankin wrote:

Marcin Floryan wrote:

On 22/01/2008, David C. Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Listmates, Sandy,

Where do I tell postfix to deliver mail for a user to 
localhost and

deliver a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has to be easy, -- I hope.


I tend to use procmail in such case and setup a rule to forward the
message to another address. This can easily be done by the user
themselves in the local .procmailrc file.

Alternatively the .forward file in the user account can be used.

Another (and possibly the simplest option) is to define an alias in
the /etc/aliases file adding a similar line

user: [EMAIL PROTECTED], \user

Regards,


Thanks Marcin,

The tough part was I wanted a 'copy' forwarded to another box, not 
just a plain forward. Procmail was the answer.




Not necessarily. I would do this in virtual_alias_maps.

/etc/postfix/virtual:
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Hmm. Sandy,

	I am trying to implement the /etc/postfix/virtual solution you 
suggested, but it doesn't seem to be working. Here is what I did.


(1) edit /etc/postfix/virtual, and added

me_at_rbpllc.com me_at_rbpllc.com, me_at_trinity.rbpllc.com

(2) postmap hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
(3) rcpostfix reload
(4) disabled the .procmailrc solution
(5) sent mail to me_at_rbpllc.com

	Mail arrives at rbpllc.com and is delivered to rbpllc.com by NOT to 
trinity.rbpllc.com?  Can you offer any suggestions or point out where I 
screwed up? It just goes to show I can screw up the simple ones...


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[opensuse] Firefox 32b

2008-01-25 Thread Teruel de Campo MD
ref: opensuse 10.3 64b
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128
SUSE/2.0.0.11-3.1 Firefox/2.0.0.11

I would like to try firefox 32b in opensuse 64b.

1. I can download it from mozilla.org and run it.

2. I can also install it from one of the rpm from the repository

Q: do I have to remove firfox 64 in either of both options?
Of course I will delete the present ~/.mozilla folder (well just rename
it)

Q should I use #1 or #2

The decision I had to make is why do I need to run firefox 64b when some
of the plugins do not work mainly java (I tried blackdown without
success). Also shockwave that is only available in 32 and  I can run
with crossover. I know I can run java in Konqueror so is not a big deal.
Any thoughts.

TIA

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Joe Sloan
Chuck wrote:

> 
> lawl. Dude Sun and Sarc are going no where any time soon... just the
> opposite... Sparc IV+ & Solaris 10 dance circles around Linux on any
> hardware.. You need to spend some time in a true top-tier enterprise
> class data center. Linux still has scores or limitations holding it
> back in the enterprise realm. There is a reason the stuff is expensive
> -- its damn good.

I work for a fortune 100 company, and we run AIX, HPUX, Solaris, and
SuSE Enterprise Linux in our data centers. I have to smile at the idea
that solaris is somehow more robust than linux. Solaris is great, but so
is linux.

More and more, we're moving apps off of the old school legacy unix
platforms onto HP/Compaq servers running linux. And the results have
been very very good.

We have dozens of busy linux servers with over 500 days uptime - and the
uptime champ, by far for our whole enterprise? Take a guess:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> uptime
  5:32pm  up 1016 days  1:24,  1 user,  load average: 2.47, 2.56, 2.36

An very busy old compaq 2450 running DB2, apache and websphere on SLES 9

Dude, there is *nothing* holding linux back here, other than fear and
ignorance - and now that the SCO lawsuit has all but died, that fear is
giving way to a new boldness - and I'm doing everything I can to fix the
ignorance.

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Re: [opensuse] Postfix - howto deliver mail for user to 2 machines?

2008-01-25 Thread David C. Rankin

David C. Rankin wrote:

David C. Rankin wrote:

Sandy Drobic wrote:

David C. Rankin wrote:

Marcin Floryan wrote:

On 22/01/2008, David C. Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Listmates, Sandy,

Where do I tell postfix to deliver mail for a user to 
localhost and

deliver a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has to be easy, -- I hope.


I tend to use procmail in such case and setup a rule to forward the
message to another address. This can easily be done by the user
themselves in the local .procmailrc file.

Alternatively the .forward file in the user account can be used.

Another (and possibly the simplest option) is to define an alias in
the /etc/aliases file adding a similar line

user: [EMAIL PROTECTED], \user

Regards,


Thanks Marcin,

The tough part was I wanted a 'copy' forwarded to another box, 
not just a plain forward. Procmail was the answer.




Not necessarily. I would do this in virtual_alias_maps.

/etc/postfix/virtual:
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Hmm. Sandy,

I am trying to implement the /etc/postfix/virtual solution you 
suggested, but it doesn't seem to be working. Here is what I did.


(1) edit /etc/postfix/virtual, and added

me_at_rbpllc.com me_at_rbpllc.com, me_at_trinity.rbpllc.com

(2) postmap hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
(3) rcpostfix reload
(4) disabled the .procmailrc solution
(5) sent mail to me_at_rbpllc.com

Mail arrives at rbpllc.com and is delivered to rbpllc.com by NOT 
to trinity.rbpllc.com?  Can you offer any suggestions or point out 
where I screwed up? It just goes to show I can screw up the simple 
ones...




Sandy,

For some reason there are strange greeting errors between the boxes 
using the virtual solution:


Jan 25 21:29:43 bonza postfix/smtp[11264]: 5FF1026D838: 
to=, orig_to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
relay=trinity.rbpllc.com[192.168.7.17]:25, delay=1236, 
delays=935/0.02/300/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with 
trinity.rbpllc.com[192.168.7.17] timed out while receiving the initial 
server greeting)


an 25 21:14:43 bonza postfix/error[11182]: 5FF1026D838: 
to=, orig_to= relay=none, 
delay=335, delays=335/0.02/0/0.03, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (delivery 
temporarily suspended: conversation with 
trinity.rbpllc.com[192.168.7.17] timed out while receiving the initial 
server greeting)


Huh?

I tried increasing smtp_connect_timeout = 60s, but that didn't help 
either. Any help?





I think I'm on the right track. I believe I've screwed up my 
virtual_alias_domain, I'm checking it out.


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Re: [opensuse] Difference between Yast->Group Mgmt. and groupadd

2008-01-25 Thread David C. Rankin

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* David C. Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-25-08 15:59]:
	When adding a group with Yast, the group is added with an 'x' for the 
unset password:



ochiltree:x:1002:david



If the group is added with 'groupadd' an '!' is used for the password:



dcr:!:1051:david



Why? What is the difference?


a guess from scanning the man pages (which *are* available), groupadd
defaults to disabling the account.  I said "a guess".



And, from where did you glean your guess old wise one??

groupadd(8)


NAME
   groupadd - create a new group entry

SYNOPSIS
   groupadd [-D binddn] [-P path] [-g gid [-o]] [-p password]
   [-r] [--service service] [--help] [--usage] [-v] group

DESCRIPTION
   groupadd  creates  a new group entry using the values specified 
on the command line. Depending on the
   command line options the new entry will be added to the system 
files or LDAP database.


   The group name must begin with an alphabetic character and the 
rest of the string should be from  the

   POSIX portable character class ([A-Za-z_][A-Za-z0-9_-.]*).

OPTIONS
   -g, --gid gid
  Force  the  new  group  ID to be the given number. This 
value must be positive and unique. The
  default is to use the first free ID after the greatest 
used one.  The  range  from  which  the

  group ID is choosen can be specified in /etc/login.defs.

   -o, --non-unique
  Allow duplicate (non-unique) group IDs.

   -p, --password password
  Encrypted  password as returned by crypt(3) for the new 
account. The default is to disable the

  account.

   -r, --system
  Create a system group. A system group is an entry with an 
GID between SYSTEM_GID_MIN and  SYS-
  TEM_GID_MAX as defined in /etc/login.defs, if no GID is 
specified.


   --service service
  Add the group to a special directory. The default is 
files, but ldap is also valid.


   -D, --binddn binddn
  Use  the  Distinguished  Name binddn to bind to the LDAP 
directory.  The user will be prompted

  for a password for simple authentication.

   -P, --path path
  The group file is located below the specified directory 
path.  groupadd will use  this  files,

  not /etc/group.

   --help Print a list of valid options with a short description.

   --usage
  Print a short list of valid options.

   -v, --version
  Print the version number and exit.

FILES
   /etc/group - group account information

SEE ALSO
   login.defs(5), group(5), groupdel(8), groupmod(8)

AUTHOR
   Thorsten Kukuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



pwdutilsDecember 2003 
 groupadd(8)



GROUP(5)



NAME
   group - user group file

DESCRIPTION
   /etc/group  is  an ASCII file which defines the groups to which 
users belong.  There is one entry per

   line, and each line has the format:

  group_name:passwd:GID:user_list

   The field descriptions are:

   group_name
  the name of the group.

   password
  the (encrypted) group password.  If this field is empty, 
no password is needed.


   GIDthe numerical group ID.

   user_list
  all the group member's user names, separated by commas.

FILES
   /etc/group

BUGS
   As the 4.2BSD initgroups(3) man page says: No-one seems to keep 
/etc/group up-to-date.


SEE ALSO
   login(1), newgrp(1), passwd(5)



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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 25 January 2008 19:43, Kai Ponte wrote:
> ...
>
> Oh, and FWIW, Amazon runs everything - Windows, Linux, UNIX, MacOS.
> They have no "platform of choice" and run "whatever works" for the
> API. I remember reading that one amazon.com webpage may be loaded
> from 50 different servers running ten different OS's and variants.

It's true there's a mix, but the workhorses of their on-line presence 
are all Linux. Their data warehouse is based on Oracle, but I'm not 
sure which OS platform runs it. Many desktops within the organization 
are Windows, of course, but the software developers mostly use Linux. 
They do use virtualization, but it's Xen and both the host and guests 
are Linux.

But the preponderance of their operational IT infrastructure is vastly 
dominated by Linux.


And yes, I worked for them as a software engineer for a year and a half 
(in 2005 and 2006), so I have first-hand experience.


> ...
>
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Re: [opensuse] Postfix - howto deliver mail for user to 2 machines?

2008-01-25 Thread David C. Rankin

David C. Rankin wrote:

Sandy Drobic wrote:

David C. Rankin wrote:

Marcin Floryan wrote:

On 22/01/2008, David C. Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Listmates, Sandy,

Where do I tell postfix to deliver mail for a user to 
localhost and

deliver a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has to be easy, -- I hope.


I tend to use procmail in such case and setup a rule to forward the
message to another address. This can easily be done by the user
themselves in the local .procmailrc file.

Alternatively the .forward file in the user account can be used.

Another (and possibly the simplest option) is to define an alias in
the /etc/aliases file adding a similar line

user: [EMAIL PROTECTED], \user

Regards,


Thanks Marcin,

The tough part was I wanted a 'copy' forwarded to another box, 
not just a plain forward. Procmail was the answer.




Not necessarily. I would do this in virtual_alias_maps.

/etc/postfix/virtual:
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Hmm. Sandy,

I am trying to implement the /etc/postfix/virtual solution you 
suggested, but it doesn't seem to be working. Here is what I did.


(1) edit /etc/postfix/virtual, and added

me_at_rbpllc.com me_at_rbpllc.com, me_at_trinity.rbpllc.com

(2) postmap hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
(3) rcpostfix reload
(4) disabled the .procmailrc solution
(5) sent mail to me_at_rbpllc.com

Mail arrives at rbpllc.com and is delivered to rbpllc.com by NOT to 
trinity.rbpllc.com?  Can you offer any suggestions or point out where I 
screwed up? It just goes to show I can screw up the simple ones...




Sandy,

	For some reason there are strange greeting errors between the boxes 
using the virtual solution:


Jan 25 21:29:43 bonza postfix/smtp[11264]: 5FF1026D838: 
to=, orig_to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
relay=trinity.rbpllc.com[192.168.7.17]:25, delay=1236, 
delays=935/0.02/300/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with 
trinity.rbpllc.com[192.168.7.17] timed out while receiving the initial 
server greeting)


an 25 21:14:43 bonza postfix/error[11182]: 5FF1026D838: 
to=, orig_to= relay=none, 
delay=335, delays=335/0.02/0/0.03, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (delivery 
temporarily suspended: conversation with 
trinity.rbpllc.com[192.168.7.17] timed out while receiving the initial 
server greeting)


Huh?

	I tried increasing smtp_connect_timeout = 60s, but that didn't help 
either. Any help?



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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Kai Ponte
On Friday 25 January 2008 03:42:16 pm Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Friday 25 January 2008 14:54, Chuck wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > > I'm old school too.  But Suns and SPARCs are yesterday dude :)
> > > Linux and x86-64 are NOW!
> >
> > lawl. Dude Sun and Sarc are going no where any time soon... just the
> > opposite... Sparc IV+ & Solaris 10 dance circles around Linux on any
> > hardware.. You need to spend some time in a true top-tier enterprise
> > class data center. Linux still has scores or limitations holding it
> > back in the enterprise realm. There is a reason the stuff is
> > expensive -- its damn good.
>
> How do you explain the Googles and Amazons of this world, whose stock OS
> platform for customer-fronted services is Linux?
>
> I'm not saying Solaris is on its way out, but one can most certainly run
> very-large-scale enterprise operations on Linux. I tend to doubt
> it's "held back."

I had an interesting discussion regarding my data center yeterday. While 
advocating Linux for the data center the topic was brought up that we should 
use a "true server" such as FreeBSD UNIX or another UNIX variant.

I then reminded my peers that Linux runs several thousands of "true servers" 
and we should be the ones to talk, since we run Windows Workstations in our 
data center, with the exception of one ancient HP 3000. 

Oh, and FWIW, Amazon runs everything - Windows, Linux, UNIX, MacOS. They have 
no "platform of choice" and run "whatever works" for the API. I remember 
reading that one amazon.com webpage may be loaded from 50 different servers 
running ten different OS's and variants.

I know this is off-topic, and we should probably be discussing beer or at 
least wet t-shirts, but

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Re: [opensuse] Switching to more RAM

2008-01-25 Thread Chee How Chua
On Jan 25, 2008 11:33 AM, Benji Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your AM2 CPU will be a 64bit CPU presumably, so you won't need to
> change the kernel, unless you're using 32bit openSUSE.
>
> --
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Hi,

At which point during the installation do you choose 32-bit or 64-bit?
It occurred to me that I've never got to install 64-bit openSUSE.

While we are on this topic, so if you are currently on the default
kernel, to move to the bigsmp kernel, you simply use Software
Management to uninstall the default kernel and install the bigsmp
kernel?

Would that mean that for modules that you compiled by hand will have
to be re-compiled?

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Re: [opensuse] question

2008-01-25 Thread Jonathan Wilson
On Friday 25 January 2008 15:46:57 steve wrote:
> Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> | I use ATI cards all the time and they are excellent - I'm using a dual
>
> hed ATI
>
> | card right now and formerly had two dualhead cards on here for a
>
> 3-monitor
>
> | config. I have no trouble with them. In fact I buy ATI whenever I can,
>
> having
>
> | had less actual trouble with ATI than I have with nVidia.
>
> I gave up on ATI years ago, as I suspect a respectable percentage of
> this list. Its not my intention to turn this into a flame war or
> anything, but you ARE joking right?

I certainly DO NOT want to start anything, however I am not joking:

1. They work good for me (and I do all kinds of odd things with them - I hack 
my own xorg.conf quite often - and I usually have at least dual monitors, 
sometimes more)

2. I really have had more probs with nVidias than ATIs

Not trying to say any one else's experiences aren't valid, but that's how it's 
been for me. 

JW


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Re: [opensuse] Duel Screening

2008-01-25 Thread Jesse Shaver
> What is the video card brand? Do they have native linux drivers? Did
> you install them? Did you try to config it using the native programs?

The card is an "Intel 965G" It has linux drivers that are installed and 
working. I tried configuring it with sax2, that did not work.

I have been playing with the xorg.conf file and have made some progress with 
xrandr which gives me the status as:
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1280 x 1280
VGA connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right) 376mm x 301mm
   1024x768   75.1 +   70.1 60.0
   1280x1024  60.0 +   75.0 59.9
   1152x864   75.0 74.8
   832x62474.6
   800x60072.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
   640x48075.0 72.8 66.7 60.0
   720x40070.1
   1024x768_6060.0*
LVDS connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right) 246mm x 185mm
   1024x768   50.0*+   60.0 40.0
   800x60060.3
   640x48060.0 59.9

(notice that on the first line: "maximum [resalution =] 1280 x 1280"


But this does not match my config file. From xorg.conf:

Section "Screen"
  Identifier   "LScreen"
  Device   "Intel 965G"
  Monitor  "monitor-LVDS"
  SubSection "Display"
Depth  16
Modes  "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
Virtual2304 2304
  EndSubSection
EndSection
..
This is the only screen section, and notice the "Virtual2304 2304"... 
When I run: 
$xrandr --output VGA --right-of LVDS  
(which apears to be the command I want)
I get:
xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1280x1280 (desired size 2048x768)

I have restarted the computer with the hope that this will take effect, but it 
did not. How do I get my virtual screen size to change? (note that sax2 is 
probably not a good option as I just ripped out a lot of its extra stuff)

Thanks,

-Jesse


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Re: [opensuse] amavisd warning failure?

2008-01-25 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)

On 01/26/2008 04:08 AM, Sandy Drobic wrote:
Now you get off you lazy butt and see for yourself how clam-av and 
amavisd-new are configured. (^-^)


egrep -v "^#" /etc/clamd.conf | egrep -v "^$"
LogTime yes
LogSyslog yes
LogFacility LOG_MAIL
PidFile /var/lib/clamav/clamd.pid
# Same localSocket as in /etc/amavisd.conf!
LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd
FixStaleSocket yes
TCPSocket 3310
TCPAddr 127.0.0.1
User vscan
Foreground no
ScanOLE2 yes
ScanPDF yes
ScanMail yes
PhishingSignatures yes
PhishingScanURLs yes

Some important parts of /etc/amavisd.conf:
$daemon_user = 'vscan';   # yes, same user as clamd!
$daemon_group = 'vscan';
@av_scanners = (
 ['Clam Antivirus-clamd',
   \&ask_daemon, ["CONTSCAN {}\n", "/var/run/clamav/clamd"],
   qr/\bOK$/, qr/\bFOUND$/,
   qr/^.*?: (?!Infected Archive)(.*) FOUND$/ ],
  ['H+BEDV AntiVir or CentralCommand Vexira Antivirus',
['antivir'],
 '--allfiles -noboot -nombr -rs -s -z {}', [0], qr/ALERT:|VIRUS:/,
 qr/(?x)^\s* (?: ALERT: \s* (?: \[ | [^']* ' ) |
 (?i) VIRUS:\ .*?\ virus\ '?) ( [^\]\s']+ )/ ],
);
@av_scanners_backup = (
  ['Clam Antivirus - clamscan', 'clamscan',
'--stdout --no-summary -r {}', [0], [1],
qr/^.*?: (?!Infected Archive)(.*) FOUND$/ ],
  ['FRISK F-Prot Antivirus', ['f-prot','f-prot.sh'],
'-dumb -archive -packed {}', [0,8], [3,6],
qr/Infection: (.+)/ ],
  ['Trend Micro FileScanner', ['/etc/iscan/vscan','vscan'],
'-za -a {}', [0], qr/Found virus/, qr/Found virus (.+) in/ ],
  ['KasperskyLab kavscanner', ['/opt/kav/bin/kavscanner','kavscanner'],
'-i1 -xp {}', [0,10,15], [5,20,21,25],
qr/(?:CURED|INFECTED|CUREFAILED|WARNING|SUSPICION) (.*)/ ,
sub {chdir('/opt/kav/bin') or die "Can't chdir to kav: $!"},
sub {chdir($TEMPBASE) or die "Can't chdir back to $TEMPBASE $!"},
  ],
);

Check that clamd actually is running:
rcclamd status
and is set to start at boot:
chkconfig clamd on

and finally, that you call fresh-clam from cron.


Interesting.  I never noticed before that the default amavisd setup is 
to NOT use clamd as a primary antivirus scanner (but antivir is).  Mine 
sees antivir as primary and clamscan as secondary.  So the problem for 
the OP is he only has clamav installed and no primary (by default).  I 
assume he could correct the socket path and uncomment the section for 
clamd to allow it to work as a primary scanner.  Best I assume would be 
to install a primary scanner from the offering in amavisd.conf, and 
leave clamscan as a secondary.


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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-25 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-25 at 15:54 -0800, Jim Cunning wrote:


Interesting. It might be possible to modify the firmware image before
re-flashing the device, if it is a bootable disk image. For example, the
IPcop router software is available as a bootable image that can be
transferred to a flash card and booted on a diskless system.

What does "file " show?


Well, this router (a comtrend CT536+) gets its image depending on the ISP 
supplying it, and my ISP hasn't published any image, as far as I know. The 
other ISP has, but it is slightly different so I won't flash it with that 
image. And I can not extract the current contents, there is no command for 
it.


I can run 'file' on the other isp flash image, but it says it is just 
data:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documentation/PC/router_comtrend/Jazztel> file 
CT-536B-A101-302JAZ-C01_R05.bin
CT-536B-A101-302JAZ-C01_R05.bin: data

I do have the sources, but also for the other provider, and no "making" 
documentation, so I will not try - you know the saying, if it works, don't 
touch it ;-)


It has a kernel 2.4.17 and uses BusyBox v0.60.4, as the log shows:



Apr  9 22:19:26 router BCM96345  started: BusyBox v0.60.4 
(2005.10.07-11:27+)
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: klogd started: BusyBox v0.60.4 
(2005.10.07-11:27+)
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: Total Flash size: 4096K with 71 sectors
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: Scratch pad is not used for this flash part.
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: 96348GW-11 prom init
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: CPU revision is: 00029107
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: Primary instruction cache 16kb, linesize 16 bytes 
(2 ways)
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: Primary data cache 8kb, linesize 16 bytes (2 ways)
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: Linux version 2.4.17 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc 
version 3.1) #1 五 10月 7 19:23:37 CST 2005
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: Determined physical RAM map:
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd:  memory: 00fa @  (usable)
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: On node 0 totalpages: 4000
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: zone(0): 4000 pages.
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: zone(1): 0 pages.
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: zone(2): 0 pages.
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: Kernel command line: root=/dev/mtdblock0 ro
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: bcm_console_setup
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: Calibrating delay loop... 255.59 BogoMIPS
Apr  9 22:19:26 router klogd: Memory: 14228k/16000k available (1161k kernel 
code, 1772k reserved, 80k data, 48k init, 0k highmem)




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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 25 January 2008 14:54, Chuck wrote:
> ...
> >
> > I'm old school too.  But Suns and SPARCs are yesterday dude :) 
> > Linux and x86-64 are NOW!
>
> lawl. Dude Sun and Sarc are going no where any time soon... just the
> opposite... Sparc IV+ & Solaris 10 dance circles around Linux on any
> hardware.. You need to spend some time in a true top-tier enterprise
> class data center. Linux still has scores or limitations holding it
> back in the enterprise realm. There is a reason the stuff is
> expensive -- its damn good.

How do you explain the Googles and Amazons of this world, whose stock OS 
platform for customer-fronted services is Linux?

I'm not saying Solaris is on its way out, but one can most certainly run 
very-large-scale enterprise operations on Linux. I tend to doubt 
it's "held back."


> ...
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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-25 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-25 at 14:03 -0800, Jim Cunning wrote:


On Friday 25 January 2008 13:25:25 Ken Schneider wrote:

Hans Witvliet pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 14:12 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

[...]

I want to enter an ssh session without having to type the password (to
be used by a script). The "remote" is a router with embedded, and it is
not possible to create public key pairs because it is not a shell, but
one with a limited command set.


As other posters mentioned 'expect' i won't.
But as you specifically mention "ssh" i would rather advise you to
generate a ssh-key-pair and copy the public-one over to the other
machine into the authorizedkeys file.


I would if it were possible.


No asking for pwd's anymore


What part of "it is not possible" is not understood here?


Don't be so quick to be critical. I took Carlos statement to mean it was not
possible on the REMOTE system, but it is certainly possible on his local one,
which is all that is required so far as generating keys goes.


Yes, that's true...


However, it may not be possible to copy his public key to the "'remote' router
with embedded" (linux?). Carlos didn't say what limited commands were
available, or whether it was even possible to copy files onto the router.


And that is true as well. There is no way I can send any file there; I 
can't even do an 'ls'. I can re-flash it with a new firmware, that's all, 
aside from the allowed configuration parameters. I know it is a linux 
thing by looking at the log and because nmap says so. But none of the 
commands are "shell" commands, it has its own restricted shell.


I can't even change the default or admin user name! It is 1234. Worse, the 
default password is also 1234, and every body knows it, once they know the 
model name. But I have dissabled all type of remote administration except 
from the inside network.


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Re: [opensuse] USB to ATA IDE Adapter, howto boot from it?

2008-01-25 Thread John Andersen
On Jan 25, 2008 8:15 AM, Philipp Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I haven't tried with USB, but with any other boot media I've encountered.

Nuff said.



Presumably the OP wanted to boot some other OS off of the USB disk.
You are going on about initrd like you ASSUME he is going to boot
linux off of a USB.

Say he has Windows on the USB device.  Then what?  You expect that
to boot with linux drivers?

GRUB is a boot loader, a mini operating system all to itself.  It does
not relay on Linux.  It can boot almost any OS, BUT ONLY if it can
read the media.

I see no reason to expect Windows or Solaris to run with Linux drivers
found in the initrd.


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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-25 Thread Jim Cunning
On Friday 25 January 2008 15:08:57 Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Friday 2008-01-25 at 14:03 -0800, Jim Cunning wrote:
[...]
> > However, it may not be possible to copy his public key to the "'remote'
> > router with embedded" (linux?). Carlos didn't say what limited commands
> > were available, or whether it was even possible to copy files onto the
> > router.
>
> And that is true as well. There is no way I can send any file there; I
> can't even do an 'ls'. I can re-flash it with a new firmware, that's all,
> aside from the allowed configuration parameters. I know it is a linux
> thing by looking at the log and because nmap says so. But none of the
> commands are "shell" commands, it has its own restricted shell.
>
> I can't even change the default or admin user name! It is 1234. Worse, the
> default password is also 1234, and every body knows it, once they know the
> model name. But I have dissabled all type of remote administration except
> from the inside network.
Interesting. It might be possible to modify the firmware image before 
re-flashing the device, if it is a bootable disk image. For example, the 
IPcop router software is available as a bootable image that can be 
transferred to a flash card and booted on a diskless system.

What does "file " show?

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Re: [opensuse] repos back?

2008-01-25 Thread Sergey Mkrtchyan

On January 23, 2008 04:57:42 pm CF wrote:
>
> Yes, skynet.be is a mirror, indeed a very good one... you do not need to
>  add the same repository twice at all.
>
> Pay close attention to the errors regarding dependencies. Sometimes it
> is just the request for installing a newer version of a package from
> another repository.
>

I've checked it gives a lot of dependency problems and there I have the option 
of "Install amarok, although it will change the vendor", but anyways when I 
tick it and click Ok - Try Again it brings that again...

But you mean repositories are up and running normally?

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 04:54:05PM -0600, Chuck wrote:
> lawl. Dude Sun and Sarc are going no where any time soon... just the
> opposite... Sparc IV+ & Solaris 10 dance circles around Linux on any
> hardware..

They do?  On what hardware?  That doesn't match up with any benchmark
I've ever seen run in the past few years.

> You need to spend some time in a true top-tier enterprise
> class data center. Linux still has scores or limitations holding it
> back in the enterprise realm. There is a reason the stuff is expensive
> -- its damn good.

What are the limitations that you think Linux is having relating to
Solaris that is holding it back?  There are a few nicer clustering
options for Solaris that people are working on addressing, but Linux has
tons of things that Solaris just can't even do which are causing
customers to drop Sun very quickly.

Curious,

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Re: [opensuse] Switching to more RAM

2008-01-25 Thread peter

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Chee How Chua schrieb:

| At which point during the installation do you choose 32-bit or 64-bit?
| It occurred to me that I've never got to install 64-bit openSUSE.

Usually you use the whole 64bit Opensuse. I'm not quite sure if it's
that smart to use the 64bit kernel with 32bit userland.

| While we are on this topic, so if you are currently on the default
| kernel, to move to the bigsmp kernel, you simply use Software
| Management to uninstall the default kernel and install the bigsmp
| kernel?

Well first I've installed bigsmp kernel, reconfigured the kernel source,
compiled modules for bigsmp and then after some testing removed the
default kernel.

| Would that mean that for modules that you compiled by hand will have
| to be re-compiled?

Affirmative.

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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Chuck
On Jan 25, 2008 1:44 PM, Lincoln Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
>
> Lincoln Rutledge
> Network Engineer
> OSC Networking
> 800-627-6420
>
> >>> Simon Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/25/08 10:33 AM >>>
> OK, I've been wanting to answer this question for ages, but there's just so 
> much to say. In the end, I've given up trying to say everything completely 
> cohesively, and I'm just going to allow myself to ramble and hope it helps 
> some. First, a little background. I have a pretty good computer background. I 
> wrote 6502, Z80, 8088, 68000 and other machine languages starting  25 years 
> ago. I was a programmer for 15 years, writing network protocol software 
> before the TCP stack was generally available, Unix device drivers, and a 
> bunch of distributed control systems. Eventually I moved to corporate 
> teaching, which I still do. I was using Linux to
>
> Sounds like you've worked on some cool stuff :)  I wrote some Z80 assembler 
> myself.  I miss it.
>
>  teach TCP and Unix system administration in 1994, and other than Linux, I'm 
> mostly a Solaris body. I have 3 Linux systems at home, two of which dual-boot 
> with windows so I can run Photoshop in a color managed environment. I use 
> VMWare for some other windows stuff that's less crucial to me. I also have a 
> dual processor
>  SPARC/Solaris 10 system. I loath and detest bill gates and everything he 
> stands for. I regularly point out to
>
> I'm old school too.  But Suns and SPARCs are yesterday dude :)  Linux and 
> x86-64 are NOW!
>

lawl. Dude Sun and Sarc are going no where any time soon... just the
opposite... Sparc IV+ & Solaris 10 dance circles around Linux on any
hardware.. You need to spend some time in a true top-tier enterprise
class data center. Linux still has scores or limitations holding it
back in the enterprise realm. There is a reason the stuff is expensive
-- its damn good.


>  my students that his company is a marketing company (very effective one, 
> sadly) not a technology company. I believe they've never invented anything 
> good, and have damaged many, if not most, of the ideas they've 
> "appropriated". Until about 6 months ago, I was on a one man crusade to try 
> to get my friends all using Linux. Around about then (after one success,yay! 
> :) I finally gave up :( I can't begin to tell you the heartache, sadness, and 
> sense of failure I felt when I reached that decision. Anway, what follows are 
> some of the key/memorable personal experiences that wore me down and made me 
> give up. Please remember that I love Linux, I love the people who put their 
> effort into creating and maintaining it, and I think it has improved
>  tremendously in recent years. I blame nobody for the "weaknesses" outlined 
> below, other than what I see as bill
>  gates' unreasonable and amoral (but sadly, probably entirely legal) 
> practices.
>
> It's hard to support computers for friends and family.  I had to define a 
> boundary in my life:  no PC support off the clock.  It miffed some people but 
> I needed to do it.  And I like life better :)  Now, if they were running 
> Linux, I would spend lots of time fixing things :)
>
> 1) Hardware issues.
>   If you just walk into a store and ask for a machine that will be good to go 
> with Linux, they'll look at you blankly. It's a major effort to check the 
> details yourself. Most off the shelf machines don't tell you exactly what 
> cards they contain, and then it's often hard to find the devices in the HCLs.
>   New hardware--inevitably--is most likely to be unsupported or buggy.
>   Finding the HCLs used to be hard. I just checked, and this seems to have 
> been fixed (thanks someone! :)
>   HCL is online, and I don't usually have access to the internet when I'm in 
> a store browsing!
>   Whichever way you slice it, having to care about the exact hardware is a 
> pain. I don't see any way (other than having the leverage of micky$loth) to 
> get round this, and I certainly laud the efforts that have been made to 
> improve life
>
> This is true.
>
> 2) Photography related. I use Windows to run Photoshop CS2 in a color managed 
> workflow. In this, Linux doesn't cut it for two reasons:
>
>   Color management. I tried to work out how to do the LCMS stuff, and a bunch 
> of related color management options I though I was looking at, and just gave 
> up, too much like hard work. Also, I seem to have the wrong colorimeter 
> hardware already and am not willing to pay all over again for something else.
>
>   GIMP is only 8 bit. That's fire in theory, but when you mess with stuff 
> much, you quickly run into posterization (I see this even in some 
> professional's work and while those in question don't seem to care, I 
> personally hate it).
>
> I don't know.
>
> 3) Irritations with web plugins. Idiots out there keep writing stuff that's 
> windows only, and there always seems to be trouble trying to get the latest 
> Flash player. When it's available, it's tricky to in

Re: [opensuse] question

2008-01-25 Thread Barry Premeaux
Victor,

I recently had a problem with Google Earth.  It had been working fine
until a recent update.  Then, opening the application caused
everything to crash and put me back to the log in prompt.  A bit of
searching on google came up with this.

Check /usr/lib/googleearth to see if you have the file libGL.so.1.  If
not, then go to http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.2.  Down load
the file and rename it libGL.so.1 and copy it over to
/usr/lib/googleearth.

That took care of the problem for me.

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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-25 Thread Jim Cunning
On Friday 25 January 2008 13:25:25 Ken Schneider wrote:
> Hans Witvliet pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 14:12 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
[...]
> >> I want to enter an ssh session without having to type the password (to
> >> be used by a script). The "remote" is a router with embedded, and it is
> >> not possible to create public key pairs because it is not a shell, but
> >> one with a limited command set.
> >
> > As other posters mentioned 'expect' i won't.
> > But as you specifically mention "ssh" i would rather advise you to
> > generate a ssh-key-pair and copy the public-one over to the other
> > machine into the authorizedkeys file.
> >
> > No asking for pwd's anymore
>
> What part of "it is not possible" is not understood here?

Don't be so quick to be critical. I took Carlos statement to mean it was not 
possible on the REMOTE system, but it is certainly possible on his local one, 
which is all that is required so far as generating keys goes.  

However, it may not be possible to copy his public key to the "'remote' router 
with embedded" (linux?). Carlos didn't say what limited commands were 
available, or whether it was even possible to copy files onto the router.

Jim
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[opensuse] OpenSuSE 11.0 alpha 1running in VirtualBox container : great way to test a new version!

2008-01-25 Thread Paul Hands
Hi all,

Just thought I'd pass this on in case anyone else wants to try it.

I got 11.0 apha1 running in VirtualBox.  The first install attempts
seemed to work - got all the way through the install, but the first
reboot failed with a message.

This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU : 0:6
Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.

I got some help from the VirtualBox end user forums.  Turns out that you
can't use the PAE kernel, which is the SuSE default at install time, in
a VirtualBox container. 
Selecting kernel-default and deselecting kernel-PAE at the software
configuration step solves the problem.

Now I can test 11.0 without even a reboot of 10.3.   Cool.

Paul
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Re: [opensuse] question

2008-01-25 Thread steve

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Jonathan Wilson wrote:

|
| I use ATI cards all the time and they are excellent - I'm using a dual
hed ATI
| card right now and formerly had two dualhead cards on here for a
3-monitor
| config. I have no trouble with them. In fact I buy ATI whenever I can,
having
| had less actual trouble with ATI than I have with nVidia.
|

I gave up on ATI years ago, as I suspect a respectable percentage of
this list. Its not my intention to turn this into a flame war or
anything, but you ARE joking right?



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Re: [opensuse] postfix master.cf question

2008-01-25 Thread Sandy Drobic

Carlos Lorenzo Matés wrote:


I'm having a lot of feedback in the hylafax list, i'm playing around a
few ideas they told me. But i will try in the postfix list if i don't
find a good solution

Have you tried to use the command in mailbox_command as I suggested? That
would take care of the user rights problem, provided the user is a system
user.


I tried with a custom script but i cant find how to get the mail to a variable 
to pass it to the mailfax command, i get the rest of the parameters, but no 
idea of how to get the mail itself (it comes form the pipe)


I don't really understand right what you mean with mailbox:command, sorry :-(


http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mailbox_command

This is only available for recipient address in $mydestination. The 
documentation also lists the variables that can be used in mailbox_command.


the users ara autentified against pam and ldap, but there is not problem, the 
command is executed as user fax, this is right , but i can pass it a 


That is what would be different with mailbox_command. The script is called as 
the user, that the command is run for.


parameter to set the job owner, the problem is that parameter is not in the 
proper way in the postfix master.cf.


What i tried to do is call a custom script in the master.cf like that

 fax   unix  -   n   n   -   1   pipe
flags= user=fax argv=/usr/local/bin/customfax.sh $(user) $(sender)

then the customfax.sh shoul do

#owner sender
owner='cut -f 1 -d @ $sender'

#destination is user
destination=$1

faxmail -o $owner -d -n $destination (and here should pass the piped mail)

this is the point i'm stoped in this way


Okay, I finally realized just what you wanted to do. This is a script I 
adjusted for your purpose.


You need to add error handling to your faxmail routine to achieve a robust 
transport.



#-
#!/bin/sh
# I set this up in /var/lib/filter
INSPECT_DIR=/var/lib/filter

# Exit codes from 
EX_TEMPFAIL=75
EX_UNAVAILABLE=69

# Clean up when done or when aborting.
trap "rm -f in.$$" 0 1 2 3 15

# Start processing.
cd $INSPECT_DIR || {
echo $INSPECT_DIR does not exist; exit $EX_TEMPFAIL; }

cat >in.$$ || {
echo Cannot save mail to file; exit $EX_TEMPFAIL; }

# Specify your content filter here.
# filter 

Re: [opensuse] Difference between Yast->Group Mgmt. and groupadd

2008-01-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
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* David C. Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-25-08 15:59]:
>   When adding a group with Yast, the group is added with an 'x' for the 
> unset password:
> 
> ochiltree:x:1002:david
> 
>   If the group is added with 'groupadd' an '!' is used for the password:
> 
> dcr:!:1051:david
> 
>   Why? What is the difference?

a guess from scanning the man pages (which *are* available), groupadd
defaults to disabling the account.  I said "a guess".

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Re: [opensuse] question

2008-01-25 Thread Sloan
Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> On Friday 25 January 2008 13:55:03 Sloan wrote:
>   
>> Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh thank you very much, i'll uninstall the program... and yes, i have an
>>> ATI video card, why?
>>>   
>> ATI cards have a problematic history with linux. That should be changing
>> soon, since official, open source 3D drivers are on the way, but for
>> now, ATI cards are more trouble than I'd want to deal with.
>> 
>
> I use ATI cards all the time and they are excellent - I'm using a dual hed 
> ATI 
> card right now and formerly had two dualhead cards on here for a 3-monitor 
> config. I have no trouble with them. In fact I buy ATI whenever I can, having 
> had less actual trouble with ATI than I have with nVidia.
>   
I'm glad to hear that you've not had trouble with ATI, but I've had
exactly the opposite experience - and I've done an awful lot of
consulting, and a lot of free linux work for friends and relatives, so
I've seen and worked with a good variety of hardware.
> All the proprietary drives are troublesome to some extent, but I know of no 
> reason to say that ATI is worse than any of the others.
>
>   
I do.

Nvidia linux drivers are always kept up to date, tracking kernel changes
within a day or so of kernel releases, are full featured and performance
is on par with ms windows.

ATI drivers lag kernel and X11 releases by months, are lacking features
compared to the windows versions, and performance is bad compared to the
windows versions.

But it will all be a moot point soon, when the official OSS ATI drivers
are in the mainline kernel. At that point I might well agree that ATI is
the way to go, but for now, I try to avoid the hassle.

Joe

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Re: [opensuse] Installing SLED on top of SLES

2008-01-25 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 09:02 +, Marcin Floryan wrote:
> On 24/01/2008, Frank Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > a little HOWTO for people who are interested in this :-) What I do is
> > installing SLES and SLED on top of a SuSE 10.1 installation. Installing
> > SLED on SLES (or vice versa) will work the same way.
> 
> Frank,
> 
> It would be nice to have this info posted on the openSuSE Wiki as
> well, where it would be even more accessible. Let me know if you need
> any help.
> 

hm,

I remember that after a long session i had to upgrade a sleS10 system,
By mistake i took the sleD10-SP1 dvd instead of the sleS10SP1 dvd,

Installed properly without a single error or even a single warning


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Re: [opensuse] amavisd warning failure?

2008-01-25 Thread Sandy Drobic

Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:

Joe Sloan wrote:

Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:

Hi,

Looking at the Alt-Ctrl-F10 tty I see that anavis is warning that 'all
primary virus scanners failed, considering backups'

What should I do to rectify this problem i.e. I assume update amavisd,
but how, at least via YAST?

You either don't have clamav installed, or have changed the
configuration so that it's not listening to the port or socket that
amavisd expects.

If you do have clamav installed there should be additional warnings,
something about a socket.


I have clamav installed, have not changed anything and there are no
socket warnings that I could see on the Alt-F10 list.

So, now what?


Now you get off you lazy butt and see for yourself how clam-av and amavisd-new 
are configured. (^-^)


egrep -v "^#" /etc/clamd.conf | egrep -v "^$"
LogTime yes
LogSyslog yes
LogFacility LOG_MAIL
PidFile /var/lib/clamav/clamd.pid
# Same localSocket as in /etc/amavisd.conf!
LocalSocket /var/run/clamav/clamd
FixStaleSocket yes
TCPSocket 3310
TCPAddr 127.0.0.1
User vscan
Foreground no
ScanOLE2 yes
ScanPDF yes
ScanMail yes
PhishingSignatures yes
PhishingScanURLs yes

Some important parts of /etc/amavisd.conf:
$daemon_user = 'vscan';   # yes, same user as clamd!
$daemon_group = 'vscan';
@av_scanners = (
 ['Clam Antivirus-clamd',
   \&ask_daemon, ["CONTSCAN {}\n", "/var/run/clamav/clamd"],
   qr/\bOK$/, qr/\bFOUND$/,
   qr/^.*?: (?!Infected Archive)(.*) FOUND$/ ],
  ['H+BEDV AntiVir or CentralCommand Vexira Antivirus',
['antivir'],
 '--allfiles -noboot -nombr -rs -s -z {}', [0], qr/ALERT:|VIRUS:/,
 qr/(?x)^\s* (?: ALERT: \s* (?: \[ | [^']* ' ) |
 (?i) VIRUS:\ .*?\ virus\ '?) ( [^\]\s']+ )/ ],
);
@av_scanners_backup = (
  ['Clam Antivirus - clamscan', 'clamscan',
'--stdout --no-summary -r {}', [0], [1],
qr/^.*?: (?!Infected Archive)(.*) FOUND$/ ],
  ['FRISK F-Prot Antivirus', ['f-prot','f-prot.sh'],
'-dumb -archive -packed {}', [0,8], [3,6],
qr/Infection: (.+)/ ],
  ['Trend Micro FileScanner', ['/etc/iscan/vscan','vscan'],
'-za -a {}', [0], qr/Found virus/, qr/Found virus (.+) in/ ],
  ['KasperskyLab kavscanner', ['/opt/kav/bin/kavscanner','kavscanner'],
'-i1 -xp {}', [0,10,15], [5,20,21,25],
qr/(?:CURED|INFECTED|CUREFAILED|WARNING|SUSPICION) (.*)/ ,
sub {chdir('/opt/kav/bin') or die "Can't chdir to kav: $!"},
sub {chdir($TEMPBASE) or die "Can't chdir back to $TEMPBASE $!"},
  ],
);

Check that clamd actually is running:
rcclamd status
and is set to start at boot:
chkconfig clamd on

and finally, that you call fresh-clam from cron.


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Re: [opensuse] question

2008-01-25 Thread Sloan
Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
> Oh thank you very much, i'll uninstall the program... and yes, i have an
> ATI video card, why?
>   

ATI cards have a problematic history with linux. That should be changing
soon, since official, open source 3D drivers are on the way, but for
now, ATI cards are more trouble than I'd want to deal with.

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] question

2008-01-25 Thread Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda
Sloan wrote:
> Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
>   
>> Oh thank you very much, i'll uninstall the program... and yes, i have an
>> ATI video card, why?
>>   
>> 
>
> ATI cards have a problematic history with linux. That should be changing
> soon, since official, open source 3D drivers are on the way, but for
> now, ATI cards are more trouble than I'd want to deal with.
>
> Joe
>   

h well, then, may the problem is the fu%&ing
video card... ¡¡thankx!!


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Re: [opensuse] Talking about Linux usage.....this in from Lightscribe.

2008-01-25 Thread Mike
On Friday 25 January 2008 20:08, Fred A. Miller wrote:

>
> LightScribe is just starting support for Linux, and we apologize for
> the limited support.
>
> At this point, the only applications available for Linux are the
> LightScribe Simple Labeler and LaCie 4L. LightScribe has released a
> public SDK for Linux and would really like to see some Linux
> developers pick up and use our SDK and start creating some labeling
> applications. Again, I apologize for the limited support.

Now wouldn't that be a nice addition to K3b.. Wish I could program.

Mike


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Re: [opensuse] question

2008-01-25 Thread Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda
Sloan wrote:
> Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
>   
>> i install yesterday the GoogleEarthLinux in my computer, and, doens't
>> works, i don't know why, i run the program in the shell hopeing some
>> error message... and i don't get it... just... reboot my machine (just
>> like when i want close my session) i'm useing the root session, and i
>> want uninstall that application (and others) and i don't know how... can
>> u help me please?
>>
>>   
>> 
>
> Google earth has always worked well for me, on linux systems with intel
> or nvidia video drivers.
>
> I suspect you may not have properly set up OpenGL on the machine in
> question. Just a wild guess, does the machine have an ATI video card?
>
> Removing the app is easy:
>
> rm -rf ~/google-earth .googleearth
>
> Joe
>   
   
Oh thank you very much, i'll uninstall the program... and yes, i have an
ATI video card, why?


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Lincoln Rutledge
Hi Simon, 
 

Lincoln Rutledge
Network Engineer
OSC Networking
800-627-6420

>>> Simon Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/25/08 10:33 AM >>> 
OK, I've been wanting to answer this question for ages, but there's just so 
much to say. In the end, I've given up trying to say everything completely 
cohesively, and I'm just going to allow myself to ramble and hope it helps 
some. First, a little background. I have a pretty good computer background. I 
wrote 6502, Z80, 8088, 68000 and other machine languages starting  25 years 
ago. I was a programmer for 15 years, writing network protocol software before 
the TCP stack was generally available, Unix device drivers, and a bunch of 
distributed control systems. Eventually I moved to corporate teaching, which I 
still do. I was using Linux to

Sounds like you've worked on some cool stuff :)  I wrote some Z80 assembler 
myself.  I miss it.

 teach TCP and Unix system administration in 1994, and other than Linux, I'm 
mostly a Solaris body. I have 3 Linux systems at home, two of which dual-boot 
with windows so I can run Photoshop in a color managed environment. I use 
VMWare for some other windows stuff that's less crucial to me. I also have a 
dual processor
 SPARC/Solaris 10 system. I loath and detest bill gates and everything he 
stands for. I regularly point out to

I'm old school too.  But Suns and SPARCs are yesterday dude :)  Linux and 
x86-64 are NOW!

 my students that his company is a marketing company (very effective one, 
sadly) not a technology company. I believe they've never invented anything 
good, and have damaged many, if not most, of the ideas they've "appropriated". 
Until about 6 months ago, I was on a one man crusade to try to get my friends 
all using Linux. Around about then (after one success,yay! :) I finally gave up 
:( I can't begin to tell you the heartache, sadness, and sense of failure I 
felt when I reached that decision. Anway, what follows are some of the 
key/memorable personal experiences that wore me down and made me give up. 
Please remember that I love Linux, I love the people who put their effort into 
creating and maintaining it, and I think it has improved
 tremendously in recent years. I blame nobody for the "weaknesses" outlined 
below, other than what I see as bill
 gates' unreasonable and amoral (but sadly, probably entirely legal) practices.

It's hard to support computers for friends and family.  I had to define a 
boundary in my life:  no PC support off the clock.  It miffed some people but I 
needed to do it.  And I like life better :)  Now, if they were running Linux, I 
would spend lots of time fixing things :)

1) Hardware issues.
  If you just walk into a store and ask for a machine that will be good to go 
with Linux, they'll look at you blankly. It's a major effort to check the 
details yourself. Most off the shelf machines don't tell you exactly what cards 
they contain, and then it's often hard to find the devices in the HCLs. 
  New hardware--inevitably--is most likely to be unsupported or buggy.
  Finding the HCLs used to be hard. I just checked, and this seems to have been 
fixed (thanks someone! :)
  HCL is online, and I don't usually have access to the internet when I'm in a 
store browsing!
  Whichever way you slice it, having to care about the exact hardware is a 
pain. I don't see any way (other than having the leverage of micky$loth) to get 
round this, and I certainly laud the efforts that have been made to improve life

This is true.

2) Photography related. I use Windows to run Photoshop CS2 in a color managed 
workflow. In this, Linux doesn't cut it for two reasons:

  Color management. I tried to work out how to do the LCMS stuff, and a bunch 
of related color management options I though I was looking at, and just gave 
up, too much like hard work. Also, I seem to have the wrong colorimeter 
hardware already and am not willing to pay all over again for something else.

  GIMP is only 8 bit. That's fire in theory, but when you mess with stuff much, 
you quickly run into posterization (I see this even in some professional's work 
and while those in question don't seem to care, I personally hate it).

I don't know.

3) Irritations with web plugins. Idiots out there keep writing stuff that's 
windows only, and there always seems to be trouble trying to get the latest 
Flash player. When it's available, it's tricky to install.

This is true.

4) Palm pilot-:
  Several versions of palm device just don't sync, needless to say, this 
includes some that matter to me.
  I don't know how to sync my palm and evolution-etc. with web calendars like 
google or yahoo. That's important to me. I gave up using my palm pilot because 
of this. Consequently, I'm appallingly badly organized and regularly double 
book myself and miss meetings. 

This is true.

5) Video; I have failed repeatedly to build a system that plays all reasonable 
kinds of video. Mostly this seems to be a deliberate policy on bill gates' part 
(and 

Re: [opensuse] question

2008-01-25 Thread Randall R Schulz
Victor,

Please put something informative in the Subject: header of your messages 
to this list!

Almost everything posted here starts as a question. And since the volume 
of messages on this list is so high, many subscribers need to be able 
to skim through the list and concentrate on those messages that 
interest them or which they may be able to answer.

Randall Schulz


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Re: [opensuse] question

2008-01-25 Thread Sloan
Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
> i install yesterday the GoogleEarthLinux in my computer, and, doens't
> works, i don't know why, i run the program in the shell hopeing some
> error message... and i don't get it... just... reboot my machine (just
> like when i want close my session) i'm useing the root session, and i
> want uninstall that application (and others) and i don't know how... can
> u help me please?
>
>   

Google earth has always worked well for me, on linux systems with intel
or nvidia video drivers.

I suspect you may not have properly set up OpenGL on the machine in
question. Just a wild guess, does the machine have an ATI video card?

Removing the app is easy:

rm -rf ~/google-earth .googleearth

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-25 Thread Ken Schneider
Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
> 
> 

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
>  ->
> 
> 
> The ping command is not sent... Ah, got it!
> 
> expect "[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: "
> send "\n"
> expect " ->"
> send "ping -c 5 192.168.1.12\n"
> interact
> 
> 
> 
>   THANK YOU!   :-)))
> 
> 
> (I need the router to send pings to my PC, or this computer stops
> working - - that's another story, there is a bugzilla about it)
> 
> 

If my failing brain is working right you can also nest "expect"
statements to send different commands depending on what was sent from
the machine you are connecting to. I had to do this with the Cisco
routers because the command prompt was different depending on which
version of the IOS was installed. This way I only needed one script to
cover all of the routers I maintained.

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Re: [opensuse] Strange SATA problems with openSUSE

2008-01-25 Thread Don Raboud
On Friday 25 January 2008 07:43, Clayton wrote:
> I've posted a couple times about this with no replies yet
>
> Earlier today, the entire computer came crashing to a halt... so it
> forced me to spend more time looking into the problem.
>
> The motherboard I have (ASUS M2N-e SLI) has 4 SATA2 ports.  SATA 1, 2,
> 3 and 4.  I also have a SATA1 RAID controller with 2 SATA ports.  I
> have drives connected on IDE0 and IDE1 and they are working fine.
>
> Scenario 1: If I leave the RAID card out, and just connect drives to
> SATA 1 and SATA 2 the computer boots fine.  BIOS finds the SATA
> drives, and Linux is happy.
>
> Scenario 2: If I add drives to SATA 3 and 4 in Scenario 1, the BIOS
> sees all four drive2, but when I boot Linux, it errors out.  I can
> boot the OS, but the error logs fill up with errors, and I have
> serious performance issues.. until it just dies altogether.
>
> The boot errors look like this:
> -
> <6>ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
> <4>ata3.00: qc timeout (cmd 0x27)
> <4>ata3.00: failed to read native max address (err_mask=0x4)
> <4>ata3: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
> <6>ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
> <4>ata3.00: qc timeout (cmd 0x27)
> <4>ata3.00: failed to read native max address (err_mask=0x4)
> <3>ata3.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
> <4>ata3: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
> <4>ata3.00: limiting speed to UDMA7:PIO5
> <4>ata3: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
> --
> and continue on for quite some time.
>
> Scenario 3: If I add the RAID card in to Scenario 1, but do not
> connect any drives to the RAID, all boots and works OK.
>
> Scenario 4: If I connect 2 SATA drives to the RAID card, and have two
> drives from Scenario 1 also connected, all works and boots OK.
>
> Scenario 5:  If I connect a SATA drive to SATA 3 or 4 in Scenario 4, I
> get the same results as with Scenario 2... a long list of SATA errors
> on the boot.
>
> Has anyone encountered this before?  Could it be a hardware issue.. a
> failing SATA controller on the motherboard, or is it some obscure
> Linux thing?

Hi Clayton,

Was all this working before your crash?  

In reading your posts (this one and others), I've not seen any scenario since 
the crash where disks on SATA ports 3 and 4 work with 10.3, at best they are 
recognized by the bios.  Have you eliminated the possibility of any hardware 
problems with those two ports?

I would suggest booting your Scenario 1 but with the two disks attached to 
SATA 3 and 4 (instead of 1 and 2). (You might have to 
adjust /boot/grub/device.map temporarily.)  Perhaps boot just one disk at a 
time?  Maybe boot with a live CD to see if there is something specific to 
10.3?

Not sure what else to suggest.  Best of luck.

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Re: [opensuse] Open Source Graphics Cards

2008-01-25 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 10:28:14AM -0800, Sloan wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> >> Sloan wrote:
> >> 
> >>> They have tried, but their answers make no sense,
> >>> and fall apart as soon as you take a close look.
> >>> I don't see what good this witch hunt can do -
> >>> 1. nvidia makes video cards.
> >>> 2. they write drivers for those cards, for windoze, solaris, freebsd and
> >>> linux
> >>> 3. the linux license nazis scream "lawbreaker!"
> >>>   
> >
> > "Nazis"?  Ugh, have we already sunk that low in this thread?
> >   
> 
> Apologies, this snippet was part of a private reply to  Mr Kulkis who
> sent me a PM about the nvidia module, then forwarded my personal reply
> to the list, looking to generate controversy I suppose. I would have
> been much more careful in my choice of words had I known it was destined
> to be broadcast.

Ah, that wasn't very nice of Mr. Kulkis to do, apology accepted.

> Sigh. Nvidia had been writing drivers for its cards for some time when
> they started supporting linux as well. So clearly, the binary nvidia
> driver is not a derivation of the linux kernel. They also supply a
> linux-specific "shim" which provides an interface between the linux
> kernel and the nvidia binary blob, and they provide the source of that
> linux specific shim in the download.
> 
> Seriously, where's the crime?

Sorry, but providing a "shim" does not protect you from the GPL license
of the Linux kernel.  The Samba group has proved this many times in the
past with lots of precident in going after companies that tried to do
this with their code base.

The Linux developers have also successfully enforced this in the past,
so there really isn't any discenting opinion here among the legal
community that works with the GPL.

I prefer not to get into the legal details as I spend enough time
talking to lawyers.  Also, don't take legal advice from a programmer,
just like you should not take medical advice from a lawyer.  If you have
questions about this, ask a lawyer, then can give you more information
than you could ever want to know about this topic...

thanks,

greg k-h
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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-25 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
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Re: [opensuse] Adding php-mssql shared object to opensuse 10.3 to use freetds

2008-01-25 Thread Sloan
Moby wrote:
> While this is not exactly what you asked for, we use php to connect to
> MS SQL Servers on OpenSuse 10.3 via unixODBC.
>
> PHP uses ODBC through unixODBC, unixODBC then uses the FreeTDS ODBC
> drivers to connect to SQL. Works like a charm.

That's interesting - we didn't have any luck with that, couldn't ever
get the freetds drivers to connect successfully to the pc sql server and
ended up going with the easysoft odbc drivers, which worked like a charm
out of the box.

Does the pc sql server have to be operated in some sort of compatibility
mode or something, to allow interoperability with the freetds drivers?
I'm curious if we might have missed something.

Joe

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Re: No VGA Input (was: Re: [opensuse] WARNING! - Latest Update Kills Server)

2008-01-25 Thread Jonathan Wilson
On Friday 25 January 2008 10:44:07 D Henson wrote:
> I now get no display at all, not even the stuff you normally get when
> you boot the system. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't any PC
> monitor display that stuff, regardless of whether or not a driver is
> installed? All that I do get is "No VGA Input" and "Monitor going to
> Sleep". This sounds like a hardware problem. I removed my existing card
> (GeForce 2) and installed a newer one (GeForce FX 5200). No display.
> Reinstalled the older card. Replaced VGA cable. No display. Removed
> power for 20 seconds & reconnected power. No display. Replaced monitor
> with known good monitor. No display. Now I'm really lost.
>
> Anybody have any suggestions on how to proceed?
>
> Don Henson

Do you have a CRT or an LCD laptop? Please check to make sure the monitor's 
settings haven't been corrupted. Just this week I had a friend call and say 
his big 24" LCD monitor wasn't working anymore - no lights, no display. After 
poking a lot of buttons I finally figured out that it had just lots it's 
mind - was listening to the wrong input, was set to partial resolution, a 
bunch of things. I assume a surge hit the monitor or something.

You are saying, I take it, that you do not see even the BIOS messages 
scrolling by when you first boot up. That makes me wonder if the BIOs is set 
to send it's output to something other than the AGP/PCIe port. 

Is there  a built-in VGA on the mainboard that you are not using? If so, plug 
your monitor into it and see if it's getting signal. If so you'll have to go 
into the BIOS and tell the BIOS to use the AGP/PCIe port (it will probably be 
an options called "Init Display First"

You might also need to clear your CMOS memory. How to do this depends on the 
specific computer. Its usually done by moving a jumper temporarily.

Is the computer turning on at all? Go you get power lights, do the fans start 
to turn when you turn the computer on?

If so and my pervious advice still doesn't work, you might try using a PCI 
video card too, at least temporarily.

JW


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread M9.

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Simon Roberts schreef:
| OK, I've been wanting to answer this question for ages, but there's
just so much to say. In the end, I've given up trying to say everything
completely cohesively, and I'm just going to allow myself to ramble and
hope it helps some. First, a little background. I have a pretty good
computer background. I wrote 6502, Z80, 8088, 68000 and other machine
languages starting  25 years ago. I was a programmer for 15 years,
writing network protocol software before the TCP stack was generally
available, Unix device drivers, and a bunch of distributed control
systems. Eventually I moved to corporate teaching, which I still do. I
was using Linux to teach TCP and Unix system administration in 1994, and
other than Linux, I'm mostly a Solaris body. I have 3 Linux systems at
home, two of which dual-boot with windows so I can run Photoshop in a
color managed environment. I use VMWare for some other windows stuff
that's less crucial to me. I also have a dual processor
|  SPARC/Solaris 10 system. I loath and detest bill gates and everything
he stands for. I regularly point out to my students that his company is
a marketing company (very effective one, sadly) not a technology
company. I believe they've never invented anything good, and have
damaged many, if not most, of the ideas they've "appropriated". Until
about 6 months ago, I was on a one man crusade to try to get my friends
all using Linux. Around about then (after one success,yay! :) I finally
gave up :( I can't begin to tell you the heartache, sadness, and sense
of failure I felt when I reached that decision. Anway, what follows are
some of the key/memorable personal experiences that wore me down and
made me give up. Please remember that I love Linux, I love the people
who put their effort into creating and maintaining it, and I think it
has improved tremendously in recent years. I blame nobody for the
"weaknesses" outlined below, other than what I see as bill
|  gates' unreasonable and amoral (but sadly, probably entirely legal)
practices.
|
| 1) Hardware issues.
|   If you just walk into a store and ask for a machine that will be
good to go with Linux, they'll look at you blankly. It's a major effort
to check the details yourself. Most off the shelf machines don't tell
you exactly what cards they contain, and then it's often hard to find
the devices in the HCLs.
|   New hardware--inevitably--is most likely to be unsupported or buggy.
|   Finding the HCLs used to be hard. I just checked, and this seems to
have been fixed (thanks someone! :)
|   HCL is online, and I don't usually have access to the internet when
I'm in a store browsing!
|   Whichever way you slice it, having to care about the exact hardware
is a pain. I don't see any way (other than having the leverage of
micky$loth) to get round this, and I certainly laud the efforts that
have been made to improve life
|
| 2) Photography related. I use Windows to run Photoshop CS2 in a color
managed workflow. In this, Linux doesn't cut it for two reasons:
|
|   Color management. I tried to work out how to do the LCMS stuff, and
a bunch of related color management options I though I was looking at,
and just gave up, too much like hard work. Also, I seem to have the
wrong colorimeter hardware already and am not willing to pay all over
again for something else.
|
|   GIMP is only 8 bit. That's fire in theory, but when you mess with
stuff much, you quickly run into posterization (I see this even in some
professional's work and while those in question don't seem to care, I
personally hate it).
|
| 3) Irritations with web plugins. Idiots out there keep writing stuff
that's windows only, and there always seems to be trouble trying to get
the latest Flash player. When it's available, it's tricky to install.
|
| 4) Palm pilot-:
|   Several versions of palm device just don't sync, needless to say,
this includes some that matter to me.
|   I don't know how to sync my palm and evolution-etc. with web
calendars like google or yahoo. That's important to me. I gave up using
my palm pilot because of this. Consequently, I'm appallingly badly
organized and regularly double book myself and miss meetings.
|
| 5) Video; I have failed repeatedly to build a system that plays all
reasonable kinds of video. Mostly this seems to be a deliberate policy
on bill gates' part (and the lawyers and the evil patent system, of
course). I've reached the point where I can do most file types with the
exception of AVI with the type 9 codec.
|
| 6) Strange inconsistencies ("That can't happen"):
|
|   These are really hard, time-consuming, and often fruitless to debug.
My laptop (dual core 64bit Intel) won't shut down without crashing the
kernel. It will hibernate, and the file system journaling means that
I've been able to kill it when I have to shut it down completely, but
it's still irritating, and I long-ago gave up trying to fix it.
|
|   Updates that break things, the various me

No VGA Input (was: Re: [opensuse] WARNING! - Latest Update Kills Server)

2008-01-25 Thread D Henson
I apologize for not responding to some of you but the symptoms have 
changed. I'll get to that in a moment. First, I want to clear up some 
apparently mistaken assumptions about me and my system.


From some of the comments, it appears that many of you think I'm a 
professional system administrator with a 'significant' system. (I take 
this as a complement, by the way.) While I am an IT professional, I'm 
not a *professional* system administrator. The system I administrate is 
a small home network with a server/workstation (the one that's broke), a 
dual-boot workstation, and a Windows laptop. I guess you could say that 
I'm a part-time administrator. Now to the new symptoms.


I now get no display at all, not even the stuff you normally get when 
you boot the system. Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't any PC 
monitor display that stuff, regardless of whether or not a driver is 
installed? All that I do get is "No VGA Input" and "Monitor going to 
Sleep". This sounds like a hardware problem. I removed my existing card 
(GeForce 2) and installed a newer one (GeForce FX 5200). No display. 
Reinstalled the older card. Replaced VGA cable. No display. Removed 
power for 20 seconds & reconnected power. No display. Replaced monitor 
with known good monitor. No display. Now I'm really lost.


Anybody have any suggestions on how to proceed?

Don Henson

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Re: [opensuse] Open Source Graphics Cards

2008-01-25 Thread Greg KH
> Sloan wrote:
> > They have tried, but their answers make no sense,
> > and fall apart as soon as you take a close look.
>> I don't see what good this witch hunt can do -
>> 1. nvidia makes video cards.
>> 2. they write drivers for those cards, for windoze, solaris, freebsd and
>> linux
>> 3. the linux license nazis scream "lawbreaker!"

"Nazis"?  Ugh, have we already sunk that low in this thread?

What would you call a company that took legal action against another
company that was violating the copyright license for source code it had
created?

Ok, so why is it any different when an individual developer does the
same thing?

Actually, if you look closely, a large majority of the copyright owners
of the Linux kernel today are very big companies, with lots of very good
lawyers.  If you want to go up against IBM, Intel, HP, Novell, Red Hat,
and other legal teams, fine, go violate the copyright of the Linux
kernel, for all of these companies have publically stated that it is
a violation of the license that the Linux kernel was released under to
distribute closed source Linux kernel drivers.

Are you calling those companies "Nazis" now?

So sad,

greg k-h
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Re: [opensuse] kernel 2.6.22.13-0.3-default causes instant reboot on Dell GX270

2008-01-25 Thread Julian Dunn
>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at  1:36 PM, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> On 2008/01/24 11:26 (GMT-0500) Julian Dunn apparently typed:
> 
>> I have a Dell GX270 here (Pentium 4 with HT) that will instantly reboot 
> early in the kernel boot process with the above OpenSuSE kernel (I have 10.3 
> installed). The only way I can get it to boot is to use the failsafe option 
> in GRUB.
> 
>> How can I start to debug this problem?
> 
> Grub provides you the option to edit the cmdline on the selected kernel. Try
> removing one additional parameter per boot from the failsafe selection until
> you see which one's removal reproduces the problem.

Looks like turning off Hyperthreading in the system solved this problem. System 
did not have problems with HT turned on and SLED 10, so there must be some bug 
in this version of the kernel, oh well :-(

- Julian



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Re: [opensuse] USB to ATA IDE Adapter, howto boot from it?

2008-01-25 Thread Philipp Thomas
* John Andersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080124 23:05]:

> Have you actually DONE this?  It sounds like speculation
> to me.

How do you think your kernel boots, given that the ide/sata/scsi drivers
and the drivers for the file system you use aren't compiled into the kernel?
They're loaded via the initrd and that incorporates the drivers that the
install determined to be needed.

I haven't tried with USB, but with any other boot media I've encountered. If
the kerrnel can boot off that media, it can also load the initial ramdisk
and that in turn is easiest built by using mkinitrd.

Philipp

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Re: [opensuse] amavisd warning failure?

2008-01-25 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> On 01/23/2008 09:57 PM, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
>> Looking at the Alt-Ctrl-F10 tty I see that anavis is warning that 'all
>> primary virus scanners failed, considering backups'
>>
>> What should I do to rectify this problem i.e. I assume update amavisd,
>> but how, at least via YAST?
>>   
> What antivirus programs do you have installed?  Amavisd update will not
> fix this problem, it is saying your antivirus program has a problem.  A
> couple good possibilities are antivir and clamav.

To my knowledge I have both installed, at least when I last checked.
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[opensuse] postfix relay host problem.

2008-01-25 Thread Carlos E. R.

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Hi,

I though I had this solved, but it is not so.

I had defined:

relayhost = [smtp.telefonica.net]


but my stupid ISP rejects some from domains I need to send from, like 
@users.sourceforge.net to @lists.sourceforge.net.


This is the verbose log excerpted:


Jan 25 14:47:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[31626]: < 
smtp.telefonica.net[213.4.149.228]: 220 ctsmtpout3.frontal.correo ESMTP Service 
(7.2.056.6) ready
Jan 25 14:47:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[31626]: > smtp.telefonica.net[213.4.149.228]: EHLO nimrodel.valinor 
...
Jan 25 14:47:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[31626]: > smtp.telefonica.net[213.4.149.228]: AUTH LOGIN 
...

Jan 25 14:47:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[31626]: < 
smtp.telefonica.net[213.4.149.228]: 235 LOGIN authentication successful

I am thus authenticated, no?

Jan 25 14:47:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[31626]: > smtp.telefonica.net[213.4.149.228]: MAIL 
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=4437 BODY=8BITMIME AUTH=<>
Jan 25 14:47:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[31626]: > smtp.telefonica.net[213.4.149.228]: 
RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ORCPT=rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan 25 14:47:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[31626]: > 
smtp.telefonica.net[213.4.149.228]: DATA
Jan 25 14:47:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[31626]: < smtp.telefonica.net[213.4.149.228]: 
553 MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> domain not accepted
...
Jan 25 14:47:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[31626]: send attr diag_text = 553 MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> domain not accepted 
...

Jan 25 14:47:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[31626]: C6751B73BC: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
relay=smtp.telefonica.net[213.4.149.228]:25, delay=0.81, delays=0.08/0.07/0.58/0.08, 
dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host smtp.telefonica.net[213.4.149.228] said: 553 MAIL 
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> domain not accepted (in reply to MAIL FROM command)


So I'm rejected, and I'm a client using an IP of them. I know this is not 
a problem on other countries, but... Spain is different. :-/



So I want to attempt sending again from my local postfix (yes, on dynamic 
IP). I remove the "relayhost = [smtp.telefonica.net]" line, and edit the 
transport file:


localhost   smtp:
valinor smtp:
nimrodel.valinorsmtp:

*smtp:smtp.telefonica.net


Problem? Local mails are sent to smtp.telefonica.net too - including 
emails of the content filter :-/



I then try:


localhost   smtp:nimrodel.valinor
valinor smtp:nimrodel.valinor
nimrodel.valinorsmtp:nimrodel.valinor

*smtp:smtp.telefonica.net


but I can't send local mails:


Jan 25 15:10:04 nimrodel postfix/smtp[721]: 66E8DD2D91: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=none, delay=0.11, delays=0.11/0/0/0, 
dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for nimrodel.valinor loops back to myself)




So... what is the proper configuration of the transport file, so that all 
mails are sent through my ISP relay host, with some exceptions,

like local mail?

I think I also need to define my transport based on the "FROM" address, 
not the destination, but I don't know or rather forgot if this is 
possible. Guess I'll have to RTFM. O:-)


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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Billie Walsh
Jonathan Ervine wrote:
> On Friday 25 January 2008 11:58:30 Billie Walsh wrote:
>   
>> On 01/24/2008 Jonathan Ervine wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
>> I never said these were "kernel developer" problems. Just that if the
>> Linux Community wants Average Joe User to move over then these are
>> problems that will have to be solved so they "just work".
>> 
>
> Why is it the responsibility of the 'Linux community' to fix problems with 
> hardware vendors not supplying the code to run their hardware or working with 
> the Linux driver project? How is the 'Linux community' supposed to solve 
> these problems? You're mailing to a Linux list, I think your list of 
> complaints is better directed elsewhere. Your email was also a direct reply 
> to one of the Linux kernel developers - hence why it seemed your complaints 
> were directed there...
>   

I didn't say the problems had to be resolved by the Linux Community as
such. I was reading all the stuff that was being written that didn't
address the original question so I popped in my $0.02 worth. The
original question, in case you've forgotten, is why aren't more people
using Linux. The question was asked on a Linux list. It wasn't asked on
a vendor list.

The fact that there was no quote in my original reply should have been a
clue that I wasn't replying directly to any one persons message.

Unlike some people I DO NOT keep every e-mail that comes through every
list I'm on. I read and delete. If it's something that I feel is
important I will save it to another folder. If it's REALLY important I
will print it. "Threading" would do no good because there is nothing to
"thread". Nothing in my "Trash" folder is over three days old. It
automatically deletes anything over that. If I don't need it in three
days I don't need it at all. I also don't read every header line for
line. In fact all I see in the header field is Subject, From, Date, To.
My preference.

>   
>> Average Joe User doesn't want to jump through hoops to make it work. He
>> just wants a computer that he can turn on and EVERYTHING works without
>> hastles.
>> 
>
> Then use the nv, radeon, Intel drivers for video and check the hardware 
> before 
> purchase? Even on Windows EVERYTHING doesn't work without hassles - you still 
> have to install vendor supplied drivers or visit websites to install drivers. 
> (Possibly, at a stretch, Macs provide the computing nirvana you're seeking)
>   

Big hassle. Plop in the CD that comes with whatever, click a few check
box's, and it works. Bigger hassle, go to the web site and download a
file. Run the file. Click a few check box's. It works.

OK, OK, OK! I know it's not a "LINUX" problem. HOWEVER, it is a problem
FOR Linux.

We do a little light tech support for a local ISP. I swear there are
people out there that are just plain to stupid to even own a computer.
About 90% are just barely able to turn one on and click the proper icon
to start a program.

>   
>> Me personally, I made a decision to move over and deal with things as
>> they come up. I have gotten my TV cards [ supported ] to work, off and
>> on. It's just way less hastle to turn on a TV than fart around in Yast
>> to get it to work every little bit. The WiFi card is "supported" but
>> about every third or fourth time I turn it on the damned thing won't
>> connect. Then I have to fart around with the setup to get it working
>> again. Most of the time if I'm in the computer room I just plug in the
>> cable.
>> 
>
> Complain to Atheros or whoever manufactures your wireless card. Ah yes, they 
> won't listen to you, so it's easier to complain here. Fortunately, I've never 
> had to use a madwifi card, although have had plenty of fun with Broadcom 
> wireless and ndiswrapper and now, bcm43xx firmware ripping. I can only assume 
> both these solutions are far superior to madwifi, as they don't refuse to 
> connect on every 3-4 connection attempts.
>
> Jon
>   
I'm not complaining. Just stating fact.
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Re: [opensuse] Adding php-mssql shared object to opensuse 10.3 to use freetds

2008-01-25 Thread Moby



Jim & Tina Taitt wrote:
Hi, 


My name is Jim Taitt, I am running openSUSE 10.3 x86 where I am trying to
build a Website which has to connect to a remote Windows 2003 server over
the internet and connect to MSSQL Server 2000 to process orders.  I have
been able to do this using freetds and the php-mssql library which comes
packaged in Fadora and RHEL, but my whole system of choice is SUSE.  I am a
programmer with a “little” knowledge of linux administration, so please
forgive me if my questions are not expertly written. 


 As far as I can see, OpenSuse does not have the php-mssql module as part of
their distributions.  I have compiled from source freetds and am able to
make a test connection to the remote server from SUSE 10.3.  The part I need
help with is how to compile and add php-mssql to openSuse 10.3 ?  If I were
to compile php from scratch, I would add the configure flag
–with-mssql=/usr/local/freetds. 


 It would be easy if I could just compile the module by itself and just add
it to my existing setup of SUSE, but don’t know what flags to choose for
configure. 


Or better yet, could I get a file with the list of flags to set as they are
in the current compilation of php 5.2.5 as they are in the current
compilation of SUSE 10.3 ,  so I can compile my own complete version of PHP
and have the confidence it is configured correctly to use in a production
environment by using the same flags as used to setup openSuse 10.3.

Oh yes, I have never worked with RPM’s outside of Yast so I hope what I am
asking makes sense in the above context.

Thanks to all for any input.  I have been working on this for a couple of
weeks and am a really concerned that I get it configured correctly….

Jim Taitt
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Huntington Beach, CA. 




  
While this is not exactly what you asked for, we use php to connect to 
MS SQL Servers on OpenSuse 10.3 via unixODBC.


PHP uses ODBC through unixODBC, unixODBC then uses the FreeTDS ODBC 
drivers to connect to SQL. Works like a charm.



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Re: [opensuse] Why are there not more using Linux?

2008-01-25 Thread Simon Roberts
OK, I've been wanting to answer this question for ages, but there's just so 
much to say. In the end, I've given up trying to say everything completely 
cohesively, and I'm just going to allow myself to ramble and hope it helps 
some. First, a little background. I have a pretty good computer background. I 
wrote 6502, Z80, 8088, 68000 and other machine languages starting  25 years 
ago. I was a programmer for 15 years, writing network protocol software before 
the TCP stack was generally available, Unix device drivers, and a bunch of 
distributed control systems. Eventually I moved to corporate teaching, which I 
still do. I was using Linux to teach TCP and Unix system administration in 
1994, and other than Linux, I'm mostly a Solaris body. I have 3 Linux systems 
at home, two of which dual-boot with windows so I can run Photoshop in a color 
managed environment. I use VMWare for some other windows stuff that's less 
crucial to me. I also have a dual processor
 SPARC/Solaris 10 system. I loath and detest bill gates and everything he 
stands for. I regularly point out to my students that his company is a 
marketing company (very effective one, sadly) not a technology company. I 
believe they've never invented anything good, and have damaged many, if not 
most, of the ideas they've "appropriated". Until about 6 months ago, I was on a 
one man crusade to try to get my friends all using Linux. Around about then 
(after one success,yay! :) I finally gave up :( I can't begin to tell you the 
heartache, sadness, and sense of failure I felt when I reached that decision. 
Anway, what follows are some of the key/memorable personal experiences that 
wore me down and made me give up. Please remember that I love Linux, I love the 
people who put their effort into creating and maintaining it, and I think it 
has improved tremendously in recent years. I blame nobody for the "weaknesses" 
outlined below, other than what I see as bill
 gates' unreasonable and amoral (but sadly, probably entirely legal) practices.

1) Hardware issues.
  If you just walk into a store and ask for a machine that will be good to go 
with Linux, they'll look at you blankly. It's a major effort to check the 
details yourself. Most off the shelf machines don't tell you exactly what cards 
they contain, and then it's often hard to find the devices in the HCLs. 
  New hardware--inevitably--is most likely to be unsupported or buggy.
  Finding the HCLs used to be hard. I just checked, and this seems to have been 
fixed (thanks someone! :)
  HCL is online, and I don't usually have access to the internet when I'm in a 
store browsing!
  Whichever way you slice it, having to care about the exact hardware is a 
pain. I don't see any way (other than having the leverage of micky$loth) to get 
round this, and I certainly laud the efforts that have been made to improve life

2) Photography related. I use Windows to run Photoshop CS2 in a color managed 
workflow. In this, Linux doesn't cut it for two reasons:

  Color management. I tried to work out how to do the LCMS stuff, and a bunch 
of related color management options I though I was looking at, and just gave 
up, too much like hard work. Also, I seem to have the wrong colorimeter 
hardware already and am not willing to pay all over again for something else.

  GIMP is only 8 bit. That's fire in theory, but when you mess with stuff much, 
you quickly run into posterization (I see this even in some professional's work 
and while those in question don't seem to care, I personally hate it).

3) Irritations with web plugins. Idiots out there keep writing stuff that's 
windows only, and there always seems to be trouble trying to get the latest 
Flash player. When it's available, it's tricky to install.

4) Palm pilot-:
  Several versions of palm device just don't sync, needless to say, this 
includes some that matter to me.
  I don't know how to sync my palm and evolution-etc. with web calendars like 
google or yahoo. That's important to me. I gave up using my palm pilot because 
of this. Consequently, I'm appallingly badly organized and regularly double 
book myself and miss meetings. 

5) Video; I have failed repeatedly to build a system that plays all reasonable 
kinds of video. Mostly this seems to be a deliberate policy on bill gates' part 
(and the lawyers and the evil patent system, of course). I've reached the point 
where I can do most file types with the exception of AVI with the type 9 codec.

6) Strange inconsistencies ("That can't happen"):

  These are really hard, time-consuming, and often fruitless to debug. My 
laptop (dual core 64bit Intel) won't shut down without crashing the kernel. It 
will hibernate, and the file system journaling means that I've been able to 
kill it when I have to shut it down completely, but it's still irritating, and 
I long-ago gave up trying to fix it.

  Updates that break things, the various methods that I've found my systems 
using to auto-patch seem prone to fai

Re: [opensuse] postfix master.cf question

2008-01-25 Thread Carlos Lorenzo Matés
Hi.


El Jueves, 24 de Enero de 2008, Sandy Drobic escribió:
> Carlos Lorenzo Matés wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > I'm having a lot of feedback in the hylafax list, i'm playing around a
> > few ideas they told me. But i will try in the postfix list if i don't
> > find a good solution
>
> Have you tried to use the command in mailbox_command as I suggested? That
> would take care of the user rights problem, provided the user is a system
> user.


I tried with a custom script but i cant find how to get the mail to a variable 
to pass it to the mailfax command, i get the rest of the parameters, but no 
idea of how to get the mail itself (it comes form the pipe)

I don't really understand right what you mean with mailbox:command, sorry :-(

the users ara autentified against pam and ldap, but there is not problem, the 
command is executed as user fax, this is right , but i can pass it a 
parameter to set the job owner, the problem is that parameter is not in the 
proper way in the postfix master.cf.

What i tried to do is call a custom script in the master.cf like that

 fax   unix  -   n   n   -   1   pipe
flags= user=fax argv=/usr/local/bin/customfax.sh $(user) $(sender)

then the customfax.sh shoul do

#owner sender
owner='cut -f 1 -d @ $sender'

#destination is user
destination=$1

faxmail -o $owner -d -n $destination (and here should pass the piped mail)

this is the point i'm stoped in this way

Many Thanks



-- 
Un saludo.

Carlos Lorenzo Matés.
clmates AT mundo-r DOT com


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Re: [opensuse] How can I give the password to an ssh session on the command line?

2008-01-25 Thread james wright
On Friday 25 January 2008 08:37:24 am Ken Schneider wrote:
> Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to enter an ssh session without having to type the password (to
> > be used by a script). The "remote" is a router with embedded, and it is
> > not possible to create public key pairs because it is not a shell, but
> > one with a limited command set.
> >
> > I can give the user, like:
> >
> > ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > but I haven't found a way in the man to give also the password, as there
> > is for instance in ftp.
> >
> > I think there is something like chat ? but I'v never used it and I'm
> > unsure how.
> >
> >
> > If any one is worried about security, don't: for instance, if you use
> > subversion with ssh access (to Novell, for instance) the password is
> > stored in clear text in ~/.subversion/auth, and the file is world
> > readable! (Was, rather, I changed it). So subversion must be giving the
> > password somehow.
> >
> > -- Cheers,
> >Carlos Robinson
>
> Try using expect to do what you want. I used expect when connecting to
> Cisco routers to do configuration changes with the password embedde3d in
> the expect script.
>
> --
> Ken Schneider
> SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998

You should obviously read the man page, but if you want to start having fun 
right away, paste the below script into a file, change the name, host, and 
password to fit your environment and run it with:

expect FileYouSaved

Here is the script:

#!/usr/bin/expect
spawn ssh -l UserNameHere 192.168.1.111
expect Password:
send "PassWord\n"
interact


Note:  You need the \n at the end of your password.
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Re: [opensuse] Rpm install records

2008-01-25 Thread Marcin Floryan
On 25/01/2008, Mair Wolfgang-awm013 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> As you can see on Friday there was something installed on the system.
> How can I identify which one of these packages were selected in YAST and
> which one of them were automatically selected due to dependencies?

I suppose you could go through the y2log and grep a bit to find the
answer but I would hope there is an easier way.

Cheers,
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[opensuse] Strange SATA problems with openSUSE

2008-01-25 Thread Clayton
I've posted a couple times about this with no replies yet

Earlier today, the entire computer came crashing to a halt... so it
forced me to spend more time looking into the problem.

The motherboard I have (ASUS M2N-e SLI) has 4 SATA2 ports.  SATA 1, 2,
3 and 4.  I also have a SATA1 RAID controller with 2 SATA ports.  I
have drives connected on IDE0 and IDE1 and they are working fine.

Scenario 1: If I leave the RAID card out, and just connect drives to
SATA 1 and SATA 2 the computer boots fine.  BIOS finds the SATA
drives, and Linux is happy.

Scenario 2: If I add drives to SATA 3 and 4 in Scenario 1, the BIOS
sees all four drive2, but when I boot Linux, it errors out.  I can
boot the OS, but the error logs fill up with errors, and I have
serious performance issues.. until it just dies altogether.

The boot errors look like this:
-
<6>ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
<4>ata3.00: qc timeout (cmd 0x27)
<4>ata3.00: failed to read native max address (err_mask=0x4)
<4>ata3: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
<6>ata3: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
<4>ata3.00: qc timeout (cmd 0x27)
<4>ata3.00: failed to read native max address (err_mask=0x4)
<3>ata3.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
<4>ata3: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
<4>ata3.00: limiting speed to UDMA7:PIO5
<4>ata3: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
--
and continue on for quite some time.


Scenario 3: If I add the RAID card in to Scenario 1, but do not
connect any drives to the RAID, all boots and works OK.

Scenario 4: If I connect 2 SATA drives to the RAID card, and have two
drives from Scenario 1 also connected, all works and boots OK.

Scenario 5:  If I connect a SATA drive to SATA 3 or 4 in Scenario 4, I
get the same results as with Scenario 2... a long list of SATA errors
on the boot.

Has anyone encountered this before?  Could it be a hardware issue.. a
failing SATA controller on the motherboard, or is it some obscure
Linux thing?


C.
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[opensuse] Rpm install records

2008-01-25 Thread Mair Wolfgang-awm013
Hello,

If I execute the following I get a list about when a rpm package was
installed on a system.

linux-install:~ # rpm -qa --last | head -15
libext2fs-devel-1.40.2-20 Fri Jan 25 11:24:04 2008
hal-devel-0.5.9_git20070831-13Fri Jan 25 11:24:04 2008
libblkid-devel-1.40.2-20  Fri Jan 25 11:24:03 2008
dbus-1-glib-devel-0.74-25 Fri Jan 25 11:24:03 2008
libuuid-devel-1.40.2-20   Fri Jan 25 11:24:02 2008
libusb-devel-0.1.12-72Fri Jan 25 11:24:02 2008
libcom_err-devel-1.40.2-20Fri Jan 25 11:24:01 2008
dbus-1-devel-1.0.2-59 Fri Jan 25 11:24:01 2008
ethereal-0.99.0-0 Thu Jan 24 13:44:22 2008
tcl_cruncher-1.11-1   Thu Jan 24 13:38:56 2008
bacula-2.2.6-1.static Thu Jan 24 13:38:55 2008
mbrowse-0.3.1-0   Thu Jan 24 13:36:55 2008
yast2-backup-2.15.4-50Thu Jan 24 13:36:54 2008
linux-install:~ #


As you can see on Friday there was something installed on the system.
How can I identify which one of these packages were selected in YAST and
which one of them were automatically selected due to dependencies?

Thanks a lot
Wolfgang

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Re: [opensuse] Corrupted display coming out of sleep.

2008-01-25 Thread Lincoln Rutledge
Also have you tried switching to a text console and back to the X session?  
Ctrl-Alt-F1, then Ctrl-Alt-F7.  I have a machine with an Intel video chip that 
has some nice fuscia gibberish when I wake it up, switching to console and back 
helps. 
 

Lincoln Rutledge
Network Engineer
OSC Networking
800-627-6420

>>> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/24/08 1:10 PM >>> 
Tom Cada wrote:
> I have a HP DV9000 series notebook which uses a Nvidia GEForce 6150
> video card. I am currently running kernel 2.6.22.13-0.3x86_64.
> 
> I updated the drivers using the "one click" install from the openSUSE
> community web site. The new driver version is Nvidia 169.07.
> 
> Now, when the video goes to sleep say with a close of the notebook
> case, when the case is re-opened, the display is not repainted
> properly but is completely corrupted. I have to restart the X server
> using  and log in again to get the proper
> display. The same think happens when the display is shut down by the
> power control process.

Try this...if you're using KDE, make all of your desktops have
a different background. Switching from one desktop to another
desktop will force a repaint of the whole screen.

Also ... check ctrl-alt-F10 for clues there


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Re: [opensuse] opensuse 10.2 or 10.2 on production web server?

2008-01-25 Thread Johannes Nohl
> >  Though, I'm a little bit concern about using 10.2 or
> > 10.3 for "production" server? I would like to hear
> > your opinion.

I don't see a choice. If you use 10.2 support will end "November 30th
2008 (current projection)"
(http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime). If you don't use latest
version you will have to move in 11 months. Or risk an upgrade.
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