OT: Any one here got a ScanMaker 4?
Hi, I've been using a scanmaker 4 at work and it scans prints and slides fine, but when i try to scan negatives it puts and aweful yellow colour cast on the image. Probaly because its a crappy scanner. Pentax content: Shots were taken with an LX :) Thanks, Paul Jones - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax manuals
You can find many owner manuals to download at: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/ Go to - telechargement - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: This might make some of you a little jealous
Cotty writes: You're making this up, aren't you? At this rate it's worth flying out to NZ for some serious bargains - except that you'll have sucked them all up first... Could be, but the good stuff very rarely comes up for sale because there's so few serious Pentax users in this country (and I only see what's in this city). When the good gear does become available it's usually really cheap compared to US prices. The down side is that new equipment is very expensive. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: This might make some of you a little jealous
Mike Johnston writes: You're not patronizing a camera thief, are you?!? I bloody hope not. In the case of the 300 the camera shop staff (where I bought it from) were talking to the owner on the phone while I was there to confirm that he had accepted their monetary offer so they could sell me the lens. I know them quite well and they've done me a big favour. I think the previous owner needs his head examined for letting such a gem sell so cheap, though. The 85 could possibly be stolen but is unlikely as I bought it from one of the more reputable secondhand shops. I assume they would have checked against the police stolen items database, or at least contacted the university whos name is lightly engraved on it. I'm afraid to check into it myself in case I lose it, so I'll just put my faith in the retailer for doing the right thing :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: I've been enabled now too: a beautiful SMC Tak 300/4
Chris Brogden writes: To add to Sid's fine list of suggestions, some companies like Manfrotto make a long-lens support thingamabob. You mean the #293 long lens support? It looks like just the ticket for my A*300/4... BTW, how's the Asahiflex going? Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: This might make some of you a little jealous
Bob S. writes: And did you see the bumped and bruised A*85/1.4 that went yesterday on ebay for $500. You got some great deals! I've searched the completed items but I can't find it. Can you send me the item number? Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Colour-presentation revisited (Canon FD vs. Pentax SMC)
Good day to all of you who entered - much to my surprise and joy - into the lively dialogue that my inital letter brought forth some three weeks ago (beginning on June 19th) . Sorry for not being able to do this little report earlier but in the meantime I had some other things on my mind. Hope you remember the thread. First: It seems that the matter about how to measure colour differences between 'lens families' (Canon FD and Pentax SMC) turns out to be a LITTLE too complicated for me to be able to reach final conclusions - at least not in the more scientific sense. The variables that (among others) William put into perspective were a few too many to have them all controlled for. However, the whole shutter-reliance matter is noted (that is: the shorter times used for exposures, the more probable it is that between two camera's there might be unwanted differences). Longer times are easier to control for. Second: On second scrutiny of the slides made in the Hardanger Vidda I observed some important aspects that led to different colour-presentations: 1. I used more often the 'wrong' moments for photographing (pouring rain, water on lens and oculair etc. while my friend refrained from pushing buttons at this moments). 2. My friend extensively used his 17 mm/3.5 - thereby having actually less distance to subjects (that do seem to be farther away) which means less air and humidity, fog and rain between lens and subject, resulting in more saturation in colour in comparison to my slides which were taken for the greatest part with 85/1.8 which meant much more distance to the subjects (people in environment). On our experiment: The slides shot side by side were deliberately NOT taken in an absolute controlled environment like proposed. Personally I prefer to work from out of a pragmatic Good is that what works out well stance. That means that we chose to go citywards with both camera's (Canon EF and Pentax MX) and shooting same things (very diverse in themes and content and colours) from the same perspective. What we did is: 1. coming to an exposure combination which we agreed upon (independently we measured much of the time one and the same exposure - when not we averaged both); 2. Having films (Velvia, taken from the same emulsion number = the same batch) developed at the same lab; 3. Subjectively give opinions about results of the colour, warmth (and light fall-off or lack of it) on the basis of viewing the slides on a standard evenly lit light table through a viewer and later when projecting the slides (Leitz Pradovit 153 with 90/2.5 Colorplan lens). Conclusions Part I (28mm/f2.0 FD versus 28mm/2.8A SMC): 1. First check was on the light-table. The SMC slides seemed to present more brighter colours. Overall the saturation looked pretty much the same between the Canon and Pentax shots giving a rough indication that the exposure was at about the same. 2. Striking difference was the absence of light fall-off of the Canon FD lens. There was a remarkable homogenious projection without any unevenness in projecting the slides. Of course the SMC lost most of his (or her) light fall-of when stopping down but in general it remained more visible in the pictures of the SMC. Actually I feel the SMC has to be stopped down towards 5.6 (better still 8.0!) to begin to resemble the same 'egality' of the FD ones. To be honest 2.8 should be avoided at all costs in my opinion (unless there is no alternative of course). 3. Sharpness was also noticable higher in case of the FD lens. Details were just a bit more defined. Also the sharpness towards the corners was better with the FD. It seemed to me that the FD maintained a more flat field of focus than my SMC-A. 4. Colours were brighter with the SMC. The colours of the FD slides were somewhat subdued in comparison - the SMC slides had more brightness and turned out to be warmer in colour-presentation. Those who remember my previous observations will know that this concerned my original question and as such this is a strange result. It has to be mentioned that I did not use my 28mm in Norway while my friend did. But I don't think that there will be much difference between colour-presentations within the Pentax range of lenses (I have never felt the 28mm did different colours than the other lenses I own). We think it will be fun to compare our 50/1.4 (FD and SMC-A) lenses with each other too, as well as our 135/(2.8 and 2.5) etc., so if there are some of you interested in this experiment, please let me know, in that case I'll bother to do a little report of our own subjective evaluation - we will do the shooting anyway. For now it's unsure if there are slight differences in exposure between our camera's resulting in differences in saturation (which can be small but - as I appreciate by now (I did learn a lot from this experiment) - causing important differences in colour-brightness). At least lab differences are ruled out as well as film variation differences for both our
Re: reading material
Hi, Try Photography by Barbara London and John Upton. It seems to be the standard for colleges. I have a copy and it's very good. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321011082/qid=995010194/sr=1-1/ref=sc_b_1/104-2609650-5152733 --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, July 13, 2001, 2:17:47 AM, you wrote: I would like some recommendations for books that can help me improve my photography. I have a basic knowledge but would like to get better. I would also like to try low low-budget home darkroom work. It's such a pain to have BW film developed in the mini-lab world. I have no experience developing and printing film so any texts here would need to be from step-one. Thanks, Cory Waters Atlanta, GA USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Takumar 500mm 1:5 Screw Mount Lens
Yep, pages 88,89 92 of Asahi Pentax and Pentax SLR 35mm cameras 1952 - 1989 by Danilo Cecchi There are two versions. The original Asshiflex (M37) which also appeared with an M42 mount and a later M42 version. The earlier one had a rectangular black tripod mount, the later one a smaller, round silver one. I've got the early one in m42, but like the later 500 f4.5, the mount is on a tube that disconnects to allow filters to be screwed on.. Two elements only. Big (500mm long). Heavy. I haven't used it much so can't comment on performance, and I don't have any other 500's to compare with. FWIW I paid AUS$300 at auction for it in around 8 condition (no dings and only minor scratching, glass ok) with caps but no case. Paul Ewins Melbourne Australia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Jon Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:59 PM Subject: Takumar 500mm 1:5 Screw Mount Lens Hi all There is one of these for sale here and I was curious enough to go and have a look at it. I can't find a reference to the 1:5 500mm takumar screw mount. Is there anywhere that would have some info on it? Cheers Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT Lyme tick info wanted
Hi, Ann. I showed your image to one of the doctors where I work (there's about 50 of them here), and his conclusion is that it looks suspicious enough to justify a trip to your doctor. For my own record as a biologist I would like to fill in a bit about ticks in general. Forgive me if I state things obvious. The tick is a small mite (remotely related to spiders) that sucks blood from mammals. There are several species, but I think most of them are 2-4mm long to begin with. When full of blood, however, they become larger than green peas; up to 15mm. They climb trees or other vegatation and sit idle in the canopy until some warm-blooded animal comes around. They sense the body heat and let themselves drop onto their prey. The bite itself is less of a nuisance than eg. a mosquito bite. However, the tick bite can carry a small parasite; a bacteria called Borrelia, which belongs to the same group of bacteria as eg. syfilis (Spirochaetae). The percentage of ticks carrying the disease can vary from place to place. In Norway the range is between 3% and 20%; which means the risk of catching Borrelia varies from 1:30 to 1:5. A borrelia infection usually starts with a local swelling up to a couple of days after the bite. It starts at the bite and usually spread like rings on a water surface. The bite itself remains red like on your picture. The swelling will disappear after a while, and in most cases this means that your body has fought the infection itself. In some cases, however, the bacteria spread to other organs, notably the muscles and the meninges (the membranes that encapsulate the brain and spinal chord). This condition is called chronic borreliosis and is quite serious. If I have got it right, one doesn't know the full extent of long-term consequences of chronic borreliosis. Because of the risk of chronic borreliosis, it is common to treat the local signs of infection too. Borrelia is easily killed with normal antibiotics, but I don't know how long you have to be on medication. Consulting a doctor is probably worth the trouble if in doubt. Hope this helps, and thanks for reading. Jostein Øksne -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 8:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT Lyme tick info wanted I know this is weird guys, but if there is a doctor among you or someone who has suffered from a deer tick bite and knows for sure what it looks like could you look at the jpg at this address and let me know if it is likely to be a tick bite? I scanned the area of the bite. almost 2 weeks ago I was a bit too cavalier when shooting a wedding in a Japanese Garden in Westchester Country, NY - where lots of these critters live. I figured the scan would be of some interest to outdoor photogs and knowing the probability of this being a lyme tick bite would be helpful to others. I just discovered this thin and it doesn't hurt - it seems to have all the earmarks of tick and i cant sleep so ... http://users.rcn.com/annsan/mytickmaybe.jpg annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT Lyme tick info wanted
Oh, You can also have a look at the current issue of New England Journal of Medicine. There's a _lot_ of info on Lyme disease there. Some of the articles are reserved for paying subscribers until 6 months old, but there's free stuff too. http://www.nejm.org Jostein -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 8:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT Lyme tick info wanted I know this is weird guys, but if there is a doctor among you or someone who has suffered from a deer tick bite and knows for sure what it looks like could you look at the jpg at this address and let me know if it is likely to be a tick bite? I scanned the area of the bite. almost 2 weeks ago I was a bit too cavalier when shooting a wedding in a Japanese Garden in Westchester Country, NY - where lots of these critters live. I figured the scan would be of some interest to outdoor photogs and knowing the probability of this being a lyme tick bite would be helpful to others. I just discovered this thin and it doesn't hurt - it seems to have all the earmarks of tick and i cant sleep so ... http://users.rcn.com/annsan/mytickmaybe.jpg annsan - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: TC--I am frowning!
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:50:39 -0700 (PDT), Dave Weiss wrote: If anyone has any examples on pug or other web site that used a TC, could you email me and I could check it out? My Wild Konik horses in the March gallery used the A* 300mm + 1.4X-L converter. I'll have plenty of TC shots in my USA-2001 tour gallery, available in a few weeks from now ... Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Pentax function number 5
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:58:26 +0200, Jarosaw Brzeziski wrote: I do not own an MZ-S but from my experience with cameras of other makers, your conclusion are right. In Canons there is a Custom Function linking AF and AE at the focus point which means that spot (or - more appropriatel - semi-spot) metering will will be taken at the automatically or manually selected focusing point. That is correct, from the earlier descriptions of the MZ-S new AF it has become clear that the matrix used for metering and the AF focus points are more or less matched. Using Pentax function 5 will cause the metering cell closest to the focus-point to be used. I guess it will not be as selective as spot mode in the center because the matrix cells are too big for that ... Alexandre A. P. Suaide [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa / wrote: F5: Links AF and AE at the focus point (exposure can be taken at point of focus or not) What does it mean? If I set the focus point to the corner of the frame will the spot exposure (or center weighted) be centered in this point? Well, You cannot set that to the corner of the frame, there are only 6 points to choose from, and 5 of those are on one line! Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP ME!!!!!! OK I will try.
I see I'm well behind. I started at Step 1 10 years ago, and am still stuck at Step 1. I am thinking of Step 2, but haven't seen a 28mm. Those pancake ones are so cute. Where does the step of trying to pull apart your Spotmatic to fix the meter come in? I am trying that at the moment. Have got the film indicator dial off, but am a bit stuck with the microscopic screws on the wind-on lever. If only I could find a quality screwdriver. Jody. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I there a 12-step group for Spotmatic owners? :-) Frank, Yes, there is... 1st step - buy a Spotmatic with 50mm. 2nd step - buy a 28mm 3rd step - buy a 135mm 4th step - buy a 50mm Macro 5th step - buy a 300mm (but it was such a bargain) 6th step - buy a screwmount bellows ... Regards, Bob S. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: reading material
You can develop a fairly broad integrated understanding of both photography and darkroom work by reading the three books in the Ansel Adams series: _The Camera_, _The Negative_, and _The Print_. They're available in both hardcover and softcover versions in most bookstores. They're quite well written and very informative. Paul Stenquist CW wrote: I would like some recommendations for books that can help me improve my photography. I have a basic knowledge but would like to get better. I would also like to try low low-budget home darkroom work. It's such a pain to have BW film developed in the mini-lab world. I have no experience developing and printing film so any texts here would need to be from step-one. Thanks, Cory Waters Atlanta, GA USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Comments on M 50/4 macro
One question. What does the macro part of the lens do? I have a macro Tamron which I have never used (no adaptall yet), and am wondering. Thanks, Jody. I just bought an SMC-M 50/4.0 macro... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Albano Garcia's Camera
As long as you don't apshalt anyone (har!) Jody. I agree. Beats the tar out of some of the boring threads we get into around here. You know, like some idiot writing out the Twelve Steps of Spotmaticophilia or running down the entire history of Pentax lens types. g I will just pitch in (har! Get it? Tar? Pitch?) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT Re: Re[2]: Hounds of Asahi
Ah, you mean Sherlock, not Paul (for NZ readers only). Took me a while to work that out (yes it's Friday). I don't think anyone thinks about Paul Holmes. He is just there in your face every night on the TV :) Jody. hmm. Too many dog / Holmes coincidences in my life at the moment. Yesterday I had to go to Baker Street, London to see a man about a dog. As I strolled down the street I naturally enough started thinking about Holmes. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 18% Gray (again)
Interesting. I too have found that foliage, trees, mountains, which are all typical of an Ansel Adams photograph, are very close to 18%. On the other hand, typical caucasian skin is at about zone VI or 13%. And since most cameras are used to take snapshots of the rug rats, a meter calibrated to that value serves the average point and shooter quite well. Paul Tom Rittenhouse wrote: Gee whizz, wowie! Well I must be old then because I do remember why 18% was chosen. Go out and meter a field of foliage and compare that to your gray card reading. Average reflectance of scenes is 18% If you meter that as 13% reflectance you will over expose it. It is simple the average scene reflects 18% of the light that hits it. It is not an arbitrary value. It is a fact of the real world out there. As for Ansel Adams 12.5% would give zone VI, so 13% would fit the zone system exactly. However, photography goes back 160 years, according to you guys no one knew what they were doing for the first 159 of them. You quote Shutterbug to me as proof that I and every one else have been doing it wrong for all those years. As for checking my meters, the four of them are with in 1/3 stop of each other, and the incident meter matches the reflected reading from a gray card. BTW, why does an incident light dome for a meter transmit 18% of the light? I have heard that meters, especially built in meters, are calibrated with a 4 stop neutral density filter from a calibrated standard bulb. That explains why they would say their meter is calibrated to 13$, but that does not change the average reflectance of the real world. What that means is that the meter is off by a certain percentage for all exposures made with it even when you use an accurate metering technique. I had thought that the film manufactures were being optimistic about their film speeds but the fact that adjusting the film speed that same percentage gives excellent exposures tends to indicate the meters are in fact off by that much. --Tom - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP ME!!!!!! OK I will try.
Yes Otherwise you fail. --- Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do they all have to be Taks?? -frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I there a 12-step group for Spotmatic owners? :-) Frank, Yes, there is... 1st step - buy a Spotmatic with 50mm. 2nd step - buy a 28mm 3rd step - buy a 135mm 4th step - buy a 50mm Macro 5th step - buy a 300mm (but it was such a bargain) 6th step - buy a screwmount bellows ... Regards, Bob S. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 28-135
In a message dated 13/07/01 01:59:46 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: re: the A28-135/4, here's some quick impressions. It's a beast. Putting it on an LX with attached winder makes for a fairly hefty package. It's not the heaviest lens out there, but among those representing this general FL range, it's up there near the top. Check Boz's page for comparisons. Of course, if you're now used to lugging around a 67 kit, this is a feather.. I found the zoom ring unnecessarily reluctant. It may just be this sample, but I really had to grasp and turn the ring to get it to zoom. I was able to get it to zoom between around 35mm and 105mm by pushing and pulling on the focus ring, but again it was resistant. Ours is similar - maybe this was intentional to avoid zoom creep when pointing downwards. Kind regards Peter A HREF=http://www.camera-direct.com/used.asp;Camera Direct Used Site /A - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Comments on M-50/4.0 macro?
Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that this lens isn't listed on Stan's Pentax page. He's got the earlier SMC 50/4.0 Macro, the FA 50/2.8 Macro and the A 50/2.8 Macro (which appears in the comments section but isn't listed in the navigation column). Life is super hectic right now at work and home. I have the next website update about 90-95% complete, but it will be at least another week before I can get back to work on it. Your web site is truly amazing, Stan. It's a measure of its scope and quality that I was actually surprised to find a Pentax lens that wasn't listed! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 18% Gray (again)
Most cameras?? Not mine. --- PAUL STENQUIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. I too have found that foliage, trees, mountains, which are all typical of an Ansel Adams photograph, are very close to 18%. On the other hand, typical caucasian skin is at about zone VI or 13%. And since most cameras are used to take snapshots of the rug rats, a meter calibrated to that value serves the average point and shooter quite well. Paul __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX with buy it now of $200. No Prism
Another LX for the Illinois delegation! Congratulations Bill! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1255010267 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Albano Garcia's Camera
Oops, asphalt. --- petit miam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As long as you don't apshalt anyone (har!) Jody. I agree. Beats the tar out of some of the boring threads we get into around here. You know, like some idiot writing out the Twelve Steps of Spotmaticophilia or running down the entire history of Pentax lens types. g I will just pitch in (har! Get it? Tar? Pitch?) __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Comments on M 50/4 macro
It smells and attracts flies if you leave it unrefridgerated. Oh, sorry that's mackeral. Oddly, whenever I make that joke around photogs, they don't find it funny. But, that's another kettle of fish. -frank petit miam wrote: One question. What does the macro part of the lens do? I have a macro Tamron which I have never used (no adaptall yet), and am wondering. Thanks, Jody. I just bought an SMC-M 50/4.0 macro... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
More About the Slinky
From: Bill Owens Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:09:39 -0700 Anyone know how the Slinky was invented? Try this link: http://www.messiah.edu/hpages/facstaff/barrett/slinky/history.htm I love reading Cecil Adams' Straight Dope columns. Here's some more, and perhaps more interesting, Slinky information: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010706.html --- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: HELP ME!!!!!! OK I will try.
Frank, Yes, there is... 1st step - buy a Spotmatic with 50mm. 2nd step - buy a 28mm 3rd step - buy a 135mm 4th step - buy a 50mm Macro 5th step - buy a 300mm (but it was such a bargain) 6th step - buy a screwmount bellows Gosh, I screwed up. I bought my Spotmatic with the now infamous 300/3.5 Rexatar and substituted a 200mm at step 4. Also, my screwmount autobellows included a slide copier and cost an outrageous $50.00 USD for both. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Takumar 500mm 1:5 Screw Mount Lens and other ramblings
At 16:13 13/07/01, you wrote: Thanks Paul. I got told by a different source that it can be used on a 645 or 67 camera (not sure which one), with an adapter that was sold for them a long, long, long time ago. I also got told it is a very sharp lens. It is way too big and bulky for what I'd considered using it for, and happily passed it up. I missed out on a 17mm Pentax M(?) fisheye for $120 today as well. I saw the for sale sign on the shelf at one of the camera shops and it had already been sold. It was still there, so I got a look at it. It didn't unduly worry me that it had been sold, I need a new printer more than a fisheye lens. A friend picked up a mint M 300/4 for about $150 yesterday and had the bragging rights today. I offered him $200 for it but he said nononono it has red backs in it, fungus, rabies, and it bites. LOL It seems that every Pentaxite in Perth is busily selling off stuff at present, seemingly to fund the purchase of an MZ-S. I need one for photographing horse racing. The far right AF point has sold me on the camera. I just have to save up the readies. To top off my day our dog had an attack of something. He was either poisoned or bitten/stung by something at it looked really bad. A visit to the vet, a stay of a couple of hours and he was allowed to come home a new dog. I'll make a couple of offerings to the dog dieties tonight and hope he's fully recovered in the morning. Enough rambling Cheers Yep, pages 88,89 92 of Asahi Pentax and Pentax SLR 35mm cameras 1952 - 1989 by Danilo Cecchi There are two versions. The original Asshiflex (M37) which also appeared with an M42 mount and a later M42 version. The earlier one had a rectangular black tripod mount, the later one a smaller, round silver one. I've got the early one in m42, but like the later 500 f4.5, the mount is on a tube that disconnects to allow filters to be screwed on.. Two elements only. Big (500mm long). Heavy. I haven't used it much so can't comment on performance, and I don't have any other 500's to compare with. FWIW I paid AUS$300 at auction for it in around 8 condition (no dings and only minor scratching, glass ok) with caps but no case. Paul Ewins Melbourne Australia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Jon Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 3:59 PM Subject: Takumar 500mm 1:5 Screw Mount Lens Hi all There is one of these for sale here and I was curious enough to go and have a look at it. I can't find a reference to the 1:5 500mm takumar screw mount. Is there anywhere that would have some info on it? Cheers Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chase the sun, you can't race the wind - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cost incompatibility of MZ-S (was: Ordered My MZ-S ... )
Jessops are selling it for £699.90 Camera World will match this if you really push them although they will want £749 or even £799 initially. Best is Cameras-at-lowest-prices.com who want £640! Rob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 July 2001 12:22 To: Pentax List Subject: Re: Cost incompatibility of MZ-S (was: Ordered My MZ-S ... ) I finally gave in to the urge and ordered the MZ-S from BH in NYC. Not only is the camera in stock but the price has dropped from $899.95 to $874.95! By my reckoning, that's about 625 British Pounds, which just confirms my sickening feeling that the pricing of all things photographic here in the UK continues to be artificially inflated when there are all sorts of noises about how moves are afoot to regain some sort of equilibrium. The cheapest I've seen the MZ-S advertised in the UK is about 799 Pounds (body only). That's well over a thousand US bucks. WHY? Can anyone please tell me why I should pay hundreds more for the same thing here in Britain, supposedly well and truly ensconced in 'the First World', than counterparts in the USA? In fact I'm so fed up with the situation that I now buy lots of items (with these huge discrepancies) from the USA. Fortunately I have a friend who visits regularly, and I can do this. I'm sorry for those who don't/can't/won't take the time and trouble to do this - it makes me angry that they pay a premium...for what? My next major purchase will be the the long-awaited digital offering (MZ-D?) and you can bet your sweet bippy that it won't be from a British supplier. Just my .02p Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Comments on M 50/4 macro
You wrote: One question. What does the macro part of the lens do? No lens has a `macro' part. Macro lenses are *designed* for close-up work. I have a macro Tamron which I have never used (no adaptall yet), and am wondering. Go get an adapter and enter the `macro' world. Enjoy! -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Belated PUG comments
Hi all, Meant to do this earlier this month, but the time got away from me. First comment--the gallery itself is a work of art this month. Vigorous pplause for the person or persons responsible for the deft and sensitive arrangement. A half dozen of my favorites for this month: Ken Waller's Ice Flower--superb, easy to see why it is a winner John Cohen's VLA at Sunset--accident or not, very nice Eric Platt's Run to the Sea--I wish I could see it full size! Steve Bowman's Day Dreamer--beautiful portrait, very sensitive Ollen Mullis' Shadows at Play--too cool--great vision Karoly Kovacs' Sounds of Silence--the framing bothers me a little, but the incomplete violin and the mute head are intriguing (to say the least) Many other good ones in the gallery as well! Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Classrooms
Dave The hi-school classes are a bit basic and I have yet to find a decent part time night course at a College but if you find on in the Toronto GTA let me know I need lots of help with composition and lighting. --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if anyone has taken any classes offered at night through a local highschool or college? I'd be interested in taking one involving portrait/lighting with some darkroom instruction,as i'd like to learn more on studio type stuff. Would you think these 1 night a week for 10 weeks courses are worth while or should i look elsewere. As Beijing got the Olympics for 2008 our survey work dreams for Toronto are down the tubes so i might have some spare time now Dave ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: TC..I am frowning!
I never had any problems with mine, but I would usually use it on subjects within 15 feet. Could be that it's not so great at or near infinity. tv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pat White Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TC..I am frowning! I used the K T6-2X teleconvertor with my K 45-125 and M 200/4 with very good results. I had previously used a Vivitar TC with terrible results. Perhaps the T6-2X works better with longer lenses than 50mm. Pat White - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Ah ha! (was 18% gray)
Meters are calibrated with a 4 stop neutral density filter (12.5%) from a standard calibrated bulb. I make four stops 6.25% - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ah ha! (was 18% gray)
Tom C. chortled: Do we really have to discuss photography? g Yes, we do. Except when we discuss cheese curd, Slinkies, and tick bites, of course. Those are allowed. But other than that, photography it is. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Ordered My MZ-S ...
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ordered My MZ-S ... I finally gave in to the urge and ordered the MZ-S from BH in NYC. Not only is the camera in stock but the price has dropped from $899.95 to $874.95! That's the price Adorama offered it at initially. (I remember, because I asked Camera World to price-match) -- John Francis . . . . . . . . . . (650) 429-4427 MyWay.com 444 Castro St. Suite 101,Mt. View, CA 94041 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your Father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What is a fried cheese curd ?
Yes they do squeak when you eat them - of course, not the fried ones. Their texture is really a bit unusual. Can't really be described. Well, if I get my work done today I'll be heading south to Milwaukee. After all this dicussion I'll definately be stopping at the Frigo factory in Lena, WI for a bag of fresh cheese curds. And it will be squeak ... squeak ... squeak ... the rest of the way to Milwaukee. Eric Lawton From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What is a fried cheese curd ? Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:48:10 -0600 I need to know--do Wisconsin cheese curds squeek when you eat them? I grew up in Quebec eating fromage en grains, which squeaked pleasantly. An entire high school class eating them could drive a teacher crazy... Nowadays the quebecois put a mixture of gravy and cheese curds called sauce poutine over their frites. This is guaranteed to reduce the population, just like fried cheese curds will eventually kill off everyone in Wisconsin. John _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Classrooms
You wrote: Just wondering if anyone has taken any classes offered at night through a local highschool or college? I did, at the `Centre for Arts' (Centrum voor de Kunsten) in Eindhoven. I'd be interested in taking one involving portrait/lighting with some darkroom instruction,as i'd like to learn more on studio type stuff. I only did the entry level course and it did include some studio work, both portrait and macro. The `advanced' course offers more (of course). Would you think these 1 night a week for 10 weeks courses are worth while or should i look elsewere. Go see what your local nicht schools nearby offer. As Beijing got the Olympics for 2008 our survey work dreams for Toronto are down the tubes so i might have some spare time now *boggle* -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Classrooms
Too bad we didn't get the Olympics. Let's hope it serves for a good purpose in Beijing. I know that Humber College offers general interest courses and has also a certification program (http://cecal.humberc.on.ca/photo/index.html). I've been unsuccessfully trying to free up some time to do it. The Toronto image works http://www.torontoimageworks.com also offers some courses in portraiture and bw printing. I don't know how good those are though. Herbet. --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if anyone has taken any classes offered at night through a local highschool or college? I'd be interested in taking one involving portrait/lighting with some darkroom instruction,as i'd like to learn more on studio type stuff. Would you think these 1 night a week for 10 weeks courses are worth while or should i look elsewere. As Beijing got the Olympics for 2008 our survey work dreams for Toronto are down the tubes so i might have some spare time now Dave ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is a fried cheese curd ?
John Cohen wrote: Nowadays the quebecois put a mixture of gravy and cheese curds called sauce poutine over their frites. This is guaranteed to reduce the population, just like fried cheese curds will eventually kill off everyone in Wisconsin. Brown Gravy over French Fries is great w/ an ice cold Coke. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
18% Gray (the TRUTH!)
Albano wrote: Somebody knows if ALL cameras and ALL incident meters are calibrated for 13 percent? All Asahi cameras or just modern ones? All meters? Gossen? The real reason for this discrepancy is that way back during the Anselian Age the Sun actually shone brighter than it does today, thus the average scene back in those idyllic times did truly measure an 18% reflectance. Some speculate that the increased industrialization and concurrent smog (obeying Boyle's Law and dispersing evenly throughout the atmospheric envelope) density has reduced this reflectance to a mere 13% in recent times. Friday looming large on the Oregon Coast .Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT : Holmes
John Francis wrote: Ah, you mean Sherlock, not Paul (for NZ readers only). Took me a while to work that out (yes it's Friday). I ... Paul Holmes. He is just there in your face every night on the TV :) Could be worse - it could be John Holmes. As with Blind Melon Chittlin's dilemma, I doubt they could fit it on the screen/album cover !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hounds of Asahi
Chris Brogden wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK all you dogs... knock it off!!! :-) :-) :-) ARF! Who is it who owns the bow-wow Takumar 20mm? Mr. Casselberry himself. Let's not hound him about it, though, as he may be a husky fellow who could drown us in big poodles of water. Why not get back to talking about our photo labs and film leader retrievers? Careful now! ... or I'll have to unleash some images from the Bow-Wow Portrait Collection 8^) - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Colour-presentation revisited (Canon FD vs. Pentax SMC)
I think colour palette matters much to people in photographs and preferences are highly subjective; the simplest proof is how much people argue and differ on prints made on papers by various brands: some prefer saturated greens of Fuji paper while others find them unacceptable and artificial; there are people who praise "natural" colours of Agfa paper while others find them dull etc. I would be interested in hearing from you on any results of your future "comparative studies" Cheers Jarek Hugo wrote: So do people in general tend to judge a picture more on the basis of colours than on other aspects like sharpness? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . --- P.S. Wejd w Kontakt! Wygraj Nokie 9110i i rejs do Szwecji! http://kontakt.wp.pl/konkurs - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX with buy it now of $200. No Prism
I just couldn't help myself. Now I have a tough decision to make . . . I recently bought a K2 w/ a 50 1.4 lens . . . Do I sell the K2 or the LX? I already have a well beaten MX, an LX, and a Super Program, I really don't need 2 more cameras . . . . I'll be posting some Pentax gear for sale in the next few days. If anyone needs the F-1 finder for the LX, let me know, I'm going to be selling mine (for use with the FB-1 finder) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another LX for the Illinois delegation! Congratulations Bill! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1255010267 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Flash question.
Using an RTF indoors would be my last resort - only if it provided the only means to take a picture. I sometimes - though quite rarely - use an RTF for fill-in outdoors, but solely with lenses that are small in size and this limits the choice to primes in the 28 - 85 range or short standard zooms. "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa / wrote: Jim Apilado wrote: [Questions about use of RTF vs. external flash...] I can see where an external flash would be recommended for the long zoom.I'm not sure about whether to leave a hood on the other two lenses when shooting with the built-in flash. What are your experiences? Hi Jim, I've had occasion recently to shoot people from distances of 60 feet or so at 135mm and 210mm. Even with an external flash, I find that my subjects show a lot of red-eye if they're looking in the general direction of the camera. The problem is worse at greater subject distances, since the angle of parallax (i.e., camera lens to subject's eye to flash head) becomes progressively smaller. Your decision is going to depend on what you shoot. Generally, I don't like to use the built-in flash at all, even for "normal" focal lengths, if I'm shooting people indoors or under low-light conditions. Only if I have to, and only if I set it to the pre-flash (red-eye reduction) mode. The external flash units are just a lot more versatile for my tastes, and you can create a lot more depth in your scene -- as well as a lot softer illumination -- by properly bouncing the output off walls, ceilings, and so forth. The built-in flash would probably be reasonable for fill- flash if the output is properly compensated. I just haven't had occasion to do much of that. Hope this helps. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . --- P.S. Wejd w Kontakt! Wygraj Nokie 9110i i rejs do Szwecji! http://kontakt.wp.pl/konkurs - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Pentax function number 5
Jan van Wijk wrote: That is correct, from the earlier descriptions of the MZ-S new AF it has become clear that the matrix used for metering and the AF focus points are more or less matched. Using Pentax function 5 will cause the metering cell closest to the focus-point to be used. Man, I need to buy one of these... -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT : Holmes
gona go downtown gona see my girl huh huh (cheech and chong 1972) Dave(not here)Brooks Begin Original Message From: Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:16:39 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT : Holmes John Francis wrote: Ah, you mean Sherlock, not Paul (for NZ readers only). Took me a while to work that out (yes it's Friday). I ... Paul Holmes. He is just there in your face every night on the TV :) Could be worse - it could be John Holmes. As with Blind Melon Chittlin's dilemma, I doubt they could fit it on the screen/album cover !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ont Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 102
Just more MZ-S Please send the messages to me directly, to not disturb other members,thanks. Also, I've not included 110 and digital cameras, just because I started this way, and I didn't want to change in the middle of the way. Also, if you already submited and want to add new items, please put clearly in your message: this is not my first submission, so I don't put you twice in the total answers. Thanks to all contributors. TOTAL ANSWERS: 390 members MANUAL FOCUS: Screw Mount: - Asahiflex IIa3 - Asahiflex IIb2 - Asahi Pentax (AP)3 - K2 - SL...8 - SV...9 - S1...1 - S1a.10 - S2...1 - S3...3 - SP500...10 - SP1000..11 - Spotmatic...32 - Spotmatic II13 - Spotmatic IIa1 - Spotmatic SP27 - Spotmatic SP II..9 - Spotmatic F.33 - Spotmatic F MD...2 - Spotmatic MD.3 - ES..15 - ES II...20 - ElectroSpotmatic.3 - H1...2 - H1a..5 - H2...4 - H3...7 - H3v..5 Bayonette: - KM14 - KX42 - KX MD..1 - K234 - K2 DMD.9 - K1000.75 - K1000 SE...9 - MX...118 - ME38 - ME SE..2 - ME Super.119 - ME Super SE4 - MV.6 - MV11 - MG12 - LX...136 - Super Program.69 - Super A...41 - Program Plus..17 - Program A.10 - A3000..3 - A3.2 - A3(date)...1 - P3.7 - P3n8 - P308 - P30n...1 - P30t..12 - P5.8 - P502 - ZX M..20 - MZ M..10 AUTOFOCUS: - ME F..12 - SF 1...5 - SFX3 - SF 1n..6 - SFXn..10 - SF 7...2 - SF 10..6 - PZ 1..18 - PZ 1 SE2 - Z124 - PZ 1p.66 - Z1p...40 - PZ 10..5 - Z 10...2 - PZ 20.11 - Z 20...4 - Z 50p..2 - PZ 70..6 - Z 70...1 - Z5.1 - MZ 3..18 - ZX 5..10 - MZ 5..13 - ZX 5n.54 - MZ 5n.35 - ZX 7...8 - MZ 7...6 - ZX 10..9 - MZ 10.13 - ZX 30..7 - MZ 30..1 - ZX 50..7 - MZ 50..7 - MZ S...6 MEDIUM FORMAT: - 64517 - 645n3 - 6x713 - 67..9 - 67 II...7 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cost incompatibility of MZ-S (was: Ordered My MZ-S ... )
Best is Cameras-at-lowest-prices.com who want £640! Rob That's much more like it! Okay, I didn't do my research very well, did I blush. Even so, you have to hunt about to find outlets like this. Jessops at £699 is slightly more palatable, but 650 would be better. I suppose these numbers will fall. I still haven't seen anything close to the £540 I paid for my Sigma 70-200 2.8 (B+H in NYC) over here - £599 I think was the closest. A lot of £720s and so forth. There's no excuse for that! Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 18% Gray (the TRUTH!)
bill- you've very good. fairly ill, but good [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/13/01 11:13AM Albano wrote: Somebody knows if ALL cameras and ALL incident meters are calibrated for 13 percent? All Asahi cameras or just modern ones? All meters? Gossen? The real reason for this discrepancy is that way back during the Anselian Age the Sun actually shone brighter than it does today, thus the average scene back in those idyllic times did truly measure an 18% reflectance. Some speculate that the increased industrialization and concurrent smog (obeying Boyle's Law and dispersing evenly throughout the atmospheric envelope) density has reduced this reflectance to a mere 13% in recent times. Friday looming large on the Oregon Coast .Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Favorite Lens Roll Call Results UPDATE 18
These are the conditions: 1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be included. 2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE. 3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed. 4 - Primes and zooms. 5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc. 6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it, had it, lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would be a wish list. First Place (7 votes): FA* 24 2 Members: 109 K 15 3.5 (1) A 15 3.5 (1) A 20 2.8 (1) K 24 2.8 (3) A 24 2.8 (2) FA* 24 2 (7) K 28 3.5 (1) K 28 3.5 Shift (1) M 28 2.8 (1) A 28 2 (1) A 28 2.8 (1) K 35 3.5 (1) FA 35 2 (1) M 40 2.8 (4) FA 43 1.9 Limited (1) SuperTak 50 1.4 (1) SMC Tak 50 1.4 (1) SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2) K 50 1.2 (2) K 50 1.4 (1) M 50 1.4 (3) M 50 1.7 (2) M 50 4 Macro (1) A 50 1.4 (4) FA 50 1.4 (2) FA 50 1.7 (1) K 55 1.8 (1) FA 77 1.8 Limited (2) SMC Tak 85 1.8 (1) K 85 1.8 (2) M 85 2 (1) A* 85 1.4 (2) FA* 85 1.4 (2) M 100 2.8 (1) M 100 4 Macro (1) M 100 4 Dental Macro (1) A 100 2.8 (1) A 100 2.8 Macro (3) F 100 2.8 Macro (2) FA 100 2.8 Macro (4) K 105 2.8 (2) K 135 2.5 (1) A 135 2.8 (1) Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1) A* 200 2.8 (1) A* 200 4 Macro (4) A* 300 2.8 (2) F* 300 4.5 (2) FA* 400 5.6 (1) FA 20-35 4 (3) M 24-50 4 (1) FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (1) FA 28-70 4 AL (1) F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (1) FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (1) A 35-105 3.5 (5) K 45-125 4 (1) M 75-150 4 (2) A 70-210 4 (1) A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1) FA* 80-200 2.8 (1) 6x7 SMC 45 4 (1) 6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1) 6x7 SMC 55 4 (1) 67 165 4 LS (1) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ah ha! (was 18% gray)
You guys up there around Milwaukee like Candy Raisins too right? And Sen Sens? Tom C. - Original Message - From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Re: Ah ha! (was 18% gray) Tom C. chortled: Do we really have to discuss photography? g Yes, we do. Except when we discuss cheese curd, Slinkies, and tick bites, of course. Those are allowed. But other than that, photography it is. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: reading material
Amita wrote: I saw this book in a camera store and I'm planning to get it soon: Photography and the Art of Seeing by Freeman Patterson http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1550130994/ref=cm_mp_wl/002-1716753-1 832851?coliid=I1H531E6WR8QKI I highly recommend this book. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT : Holmes
I suggest everybody the film Boogie Nights by P. T. Anderson. Great, funny movie, introducing the backstage human world of porn film industry. It's fictional, but the director admited influence of Holmes in the construction of the main character Dirk Diggler. Regards Albano John Francis wrote: Ah, you mean Sherlock, not Paul (for NZ readers only). Took me a while to work that out (yes it's Friday). I ... Paul Holmes. He is just there in your face every night on the TV :) Could be worse - it could be John Holmes. As with Blind Melon Chittlin's dilemma, I doubt they could fit it on the screen/album cover !8^D - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cost incompatibility of MZ-S (was: Ordered My MZ-S ... )
Cotty wrote: Can anyone please tell me why I should pay hundreds more for the same thing here in Britain, supposedly well and truly ensconced in 'the First World', than counterparts in the USA? Because of VAT perhaps? You got only 17,5%; over here its 24%. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 18% Gray (the TRUTH!)
Sounds right. Lousy physics, but who cares when discussing the TRUTH g Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Albano wrote: Somebody knows if ALL cameras and ALL incident meters are calibrated for 13 percent? All Asahi cameras or just modern ones? All meters? Gossen? The real reason for this discrepancy is that way back during the Anselian Age the Sun actually shone brighter than it does today, thus the average scene back in those idyllic times did truly measure an 18% reflectance. Some speculate that the increased industrialization and concurrent smog (obeying Boyle's Law and dispersing evenly throughout the atmospheric envelope) density has reduced this reflectance to a mere 13% in recent times. Friday looming large on the Oregon Coast .Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Classrooms
Hi, studio portrait lighting, at least as a beginner, is pretty simple. You should be able to pick up the basics in a couple of hours at most. After that you're probably better off spending time in the studio doing your own experiments. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, July 13, 2001, 4:37:41 PM, you wrote: Just wondering if anyone has taken any classes offered at night through a local highschool or college? I'd be interested in taking one involving portrait/lighting with some darkroom instruction,as i'd like to learn more on studio type stuff. Would you think these 1 night a week for 10 weeks courses are worth while or should i look elsewere. As Beijing got the Olympics for 2008 our survey work dreams for Toronto are down the tubes so i might have some spare time now Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ont Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cost incompatibility of MZ-S (was: Ordered My MZ-S ... )
Hi Cotty, just FYI, when I asked for the PZ1P body price (u$s 500 in USA) here in Argentina they charged u$s 1400-1450. Regards Martin Martin, I am stunned. What a ridiculous situation. You have my complete sympathy. If you ever want anything that costs less here in the UK (which is still more expensive than the USA by and large) and need a middleman, feel free to write and I will try and organise it for you. Cheers C ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 18% Gray (again)
I am the one who argues that this 13% thing is bull. Take your incident meter and meter a gray card in reflected mode. Then take an incident mode reading. The readings will be the same. If the meter was calibrated for 13% gray the readings would be different because that dome is definitely 18% transmitance. No, Herbert Klepper had an article in Modern Photography back sometime in the seventies is seems like that had the 13% bs in it and every one who pretends to be and expert has continue that erroneous bs since. If I hadn't wanted to build a meter checker for myself and found out about the 8x ND filter used to bring the reference bulb down to the proper level to place the meter cell in the center of its I might have gone for it. In fact I almost did this time before I actually read Bob Shell's sidebar about this and remembered. As for the regrets Paul mentions, Caucasian skin is one stop brighter than 18% e.g. 36% not the other way around. I find it interesting that all the exposure fanatics over all the years before someone found out that all the exposure meters in the world were off by a half a stop never noticed that. Not even back in the days when film barely had the exposure latitude to cover a half stop error. Of course you guys can believe what you want, but you are still comparing apples to oranges as I said in my Ah ha post. Believe me, with modern film you won't notice a half stop error. --Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me see if I understand. Cameras are calibrated for 13 percent. 13 percent is darker than 18 percent. So, if you meter from a 18 percent graycard, the meter will try to make it darker, then you increase the exposure by a third or half stop. I'm doing it right? Somebody knows if ALL cameras and ALL incident meters are calibrated for 13 percent? All Asahi cameras or just modern ones? All meters? Gossen? Albano, a bit confused - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Pentax function number 5
--- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, I need to buy one of these... -Aaron - Good so I can play with one before I decide ( actually more like borrow for a while hehe ) ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Next 'Limited' Lens Due?
A Pentax employee told me that there will be a FA 18/2.8 Limited. I got the impression that this was the next Limited lens although it wasn't explicitly said. What was said was that it would be released at a later date than the 31 Limited. It was also said that they didn't have the existence of this lens in writing yet. Sombody posted here that there will be a 23/1.9 Limited. I have no idea about the validity of this rumor. It was said that a Pentax photographer had gotten one for testing. For what its worth, both the 77 Limited and the black 43mm was spotted long before release by people observing Pentax photographers. Anyway, a Limted series consiting of a 18/2.8, 23/1.9, 31/1.8, 43/1.9, and 77/1.8 makes a lot of sense to me. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: 18% Gray (again)
Hi, this assumes that most camera users are white, which is a highly dubious assumption given that most people are not white. It would be commercial suicide to base meter calibration on any particular skin colour. If it's true that white skin is about 13% then I'd suggest it's probably coincidence. I've just metered by own skin - typically N. European with a slight suntan - and compared it against an 18% grey card. No appreciable difference. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, July 13, 2001, 11:02:57 AM, you wrote: Interesting. I too have found that foliage, trees, mountains, which are all typical of an Ansel Adams photograph, are very close to 18%. On the other hand, typical caucasian skin is at about zone VI or 13%. And since most cameras are used to take snapshots of the rug rats, a meter calibrated to that value serves the average point and shooter quite well. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: 18% Gray (again)
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Mark Roberts wrote: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Bob Walkden wrote: I've just metered by own skin - typically N. European with a slight suntan - and compared it against an 18% grey card. No appreciable difference. And thus was Bob henceforth known as The Grey Man. I guess he just has Grey's Anatomy *L* Not to question his grey matter, but I wonder if he was using a genuine card or a grey market one. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 102
Chris Brogden wrote: Does anyone on the list have any special edition LX's of any kind? Yes, I have one of them solid gold ones that came in the rosewood case with embroidered cotton gloves. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is a fried cheese curd ?
- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: What is a fried cheese curd ? Nowadays the quebecois put a mixture of gravy and cheese curds called sauce poutine over their frites. This is guaranteed to reduce the population, just like fried cheese curds will eventually kill off everyone in Wisconsin. Hell, you can buy the fast food version at any Burger King in Canada these days. Speaking of which... The AW version is pretty good, but the New York Fries Poutine rocks!! William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: What is a fried cheese curd ? (was MZ-S in Madison...)
Cheese curds themselves are made, I believe, as an intermediate step in the cheesemaking process They're new cheese, before it's pressed and cut into blocks. Indeed. Take some milk, and separate it somehow (usually by adding rennet). The curds are the lumpy bits that will be moulded into blocks to be sold as cheese after some amount of aging. The liquid that is left behind is the whey. So now you know what curds and whey is. Would you eat it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[2]: 18% Gray (again)
Chris Brogden brough forth: On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Bob Walkden wrote: I've just metered by own skin - typically N. European with a slight suntan - and compared it against an 18% grey card. No appreciable difference. And thus was Bob henceforth known as The Grey Man. Soylent Grey is Bob! -- John Francis . . . . . . . . . . (650) 429-4427 MyWay.com 444 Castro St. Suite 101,Mt. View, CA 94041 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your Father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[4]: 18% Gray (again)
Hi, that's ok - I'm colourblind anyway. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, July 13, 2001, 8:22:29 PM, you wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Bob Walkden wrote: I've just metered by own skin - typically N. European with a slight suntan - and compared it against an 18% grey card. No appreciable difference. And thus was Bob henceforth known as The Grey Man. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Info about PDML Location Survey
If you're new to the list or just haven't seen the geography poll before, here's how it works. I'm asking every member of the PDML (Pentax Discuss Mailing List... this thing you're reading now g) to mail me their city, state/province and country so that I can complile the information in a list. For security reasons, I will post a general summary to the PDML and will mail the detailed info directly to the participants. The general summary will be a list of how many PDML members are in each state/province or country. No names or e-mail addresses will be attached to this summary, as it will eventually wind up in the online PDML archives. The detailed info will consist of your name, city, state/province, country and e-mail address in the following format: Canada, Manitoba, Winnipeg; Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you don't want to include your city, that's fine; just let me know. I will mail the detailed info directly to the participants, so it will not be posted on the PDML or wind up on a web page somewhere. This way, only those PDML members who are sharing their info with you will have access to yours. Hopefully this info will help us to appreciate the truly international flavour of the PDML and will faciliate contacting other members. If you're taking a trip somewhere and have questions about your destination, you can see who lives there and e-mail them directly. If you want to arrange a get-together with other people from a region, you have their contact info at a glance. There have been a few meetings of PDML members already, which have apparently been a lot of fun, and I hope that this info makes it easier for meetings like this to happen. If you're interested in submitting your location for the list, or want to change the info you've already sent to me, or just have questions about the project, please e-mail me *off-list* at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll get right on it. Don't just hit reply to this message, as it will go to the list, not to me. I'll try to mail out an update to this info near the middle of every month, unless there have been no changes to it. Thanks! chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] (please reply to this address, not the Pentax list) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 18% Gray (again)
Tom R. exploded: I am the one who argues that this 13% thing is bull. Tom, Actually it's not. The ANSI standard is around 12% and a lot of manufacturers use 13%. Of course, as with film speed, the manufacturers do what they want to do, so many of them do calibrate to 18%. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them have enough tolerance built into their calibrations that they VARY from 12% to 18%! g Just because you get two meters to agree with each other doesn't mean all other meters are like those two. Try comparing a Nikon and a Contax meter, for instance. As I said before, Ctein has tested this and reported his findings in his book. His original source was Dick Dickerson, who is just a wee tad more authoritative than Bob Shell--Dick oversaw the development of the T-Max films, Polymax papers and chemicals, the Kodak chromogenic film, and Xtol, among other things. You want me to ask Dick about it? Or Ctein? I will if you want. The thing is, I really think that since Ctein went to all the trouble to write it all down in his book, the least we can do is give him the courtesy of going to read about it there, instead of asking him to rewrite it again in an individualized e-mail. But I'll ask him if you'd like me to. His book is called _Post Exposure_, Focal Press (www.bh.com), ISBN 0-240-80299-3. The whole book is well worth having. --Mike P.S. Mark Roberts, No, I don't know the title of the relevant ANSI document, but perhaps I can find out. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 15
Aw. Poor, lonely Ilford Pan-F. Only one vote. Don't worry Pan-F. I love ya. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are the conditions: 1 - You must answer off-list, right to me. 2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color and b and w) 3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc). 4 - You must have personal experience with it. WINNER by now: Tri-X with 8 votes. Members: 64 COLOR (Print and Slide): Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2) Fuji Velvia (4) Kodak Kodachrome 64 (3) Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (2) Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3) Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1) Fuji Sensia II 100 (3) Fuji Provia 100F (7) Kodak Supra 100 (1) Fuji Reala 100 (1) Kodak Portra 160 NC (1) Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1) Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2) Fuji Superia 200 (1) Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1) Kodak Max 400 (1) Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1) Kodak Supra 400 (1) Kodak Portra 400 NC (1) Agfa Optima Prestige II 400 (1) Fuji Press 400 (1) Kodak Portra 800 (1) Fuji Press 800 (1) Kodak PJC 1600 (1) BLACK AND WHITE: Ilford Pan F (1) Ilford Delta 100 (3) Kodak Plus-X (2) Ilford FP4 Plus (2) Agfa Scala 200x (1) Kodak Tri-X (8) Fuji Neopan 400 (1) Agfa APX 400 (1) Ilford HP5 (1) Ilford XP2 (1) INFRARED: Kodak HIE (1) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX with buy it now of $200. No Prism
William Kane writes: I just couldn't help myself. Now I have a tough decision to make . . . I recently bought a K2 w/ a 50 1.4 lens . . . Do I sell the K2 or the LX? If it only cost you $200 you should sell the LX to me at NZ prices :) I already have two K2's. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: UNBELIEVABLE!
Mike Johnston writes: Not to mislead, I was kidding. That's what I said I was only dreaming I was in New Zealand...where they apparently get all the great deals (because *I* never get 'em). And you don't have to drive very far (I'm talking a few hours at most) to get to some of the best scenery money that can't buy. I'll be doing just that tomorrow, taking my new lenses out for a field trip. Got your flight booked yet? :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: TC--I am frowning!
I just compared most of my teleconverters, so I could choose which ones to use with my 300/2.8. The best two were fine wide open. They became excellent one stop down from wide open. The TC's were tested on a Tokina 300/2.8 AT-X manual focus lens. Note: none of them except the Albinar caused any vignetting or significant light fall-off in the corners. Here's my impressions: Excellent: Kiron 2x (MF) Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter Good: Kenko 1.5x AF Promaster (Kenko) 1.7x AF Not so good unless stopped to f8: Kiron 1.5x (MF) Unacceptable (serious barrel distortion) Albinar 2x Macro Focusing TC Note: The excellent Pentax XL convertors won't fit this lens. Darn. I heard good things about the Kiron 2x manual focus teleconvertor, so when I had a chance to get one recently, I did. It is even better than I expected. It was the best TC of the lot, slightly better than the Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter. I believe this Kiron 2x TC rivals any K-mount manual focus TC out there, except for the Pentax XL series. The Pentax 1.7x AF Adaptor was good at f2.8, very good at f4, and excellent at f5.6. After being impressed with the Kiron 2x TC, I had high hopes for the Kiron 1.5x TC. But I was disappointed. The 1.5x is probably matched well to some lens, but it's sure not this Tokina 300/2.8. The el-cheapo Promaster 1.7x AF TC ran a close third in the tests. But it loses so much light that it hunts in AF mode on my F* 300/4.5, so I stick with the Kenko 1.5x for an AF teleconvertor. As for the original poster's problem with out-of-focus images, I would think that any TC that gives exceedingly soft images should be tested further to isolate the problem. Even a bad TC should not cause completely out-of-focus images unless there is some alignment or other mechanical problem somewhere in the lens/TC/camera system. -- Happy Trails, Texdance http://members.fortunecity.com/texdance http://members1.clubphoto.com/john8202 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Right-angle Finder?
Yup; the Varimagni fits perfectly. I suggest you try out a demo before buying one; this finder creates an inverted image which is a little disturbing at first. Or do all right-angled finders do this? RK Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: I read in an astrophotography book I have that the Olympus Vari-Magni finder will fit the K1000. If this is the case, then I believe it would not fit the PZ-1p. Perhaps if one could find a scale drawing (or photo) of the back of an Olympus OM-1 body, one could then determine the viewfinder window dimensions and compare to corresponding Pentax K or M and later viewfinder windows? Or perhaps someone on the list has an OM-1? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cost incompatibility of MZ-S (was: Ordered My MZ-S ... )
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:45:51 +0200, you wrote: Cotty wrote: Can anyone please tell me why I should pay hundreds more for the same thing here in Britain, supposedly well and truly ensconced in 'the First World', than counterparts in the USA? Because of VAT perhaps? You got only 17,5%; over here its 24%. Whew. 24% or even 17.5% taxes on purchases would ruin my day. Hope you guys get tax breaks in other areas. When comparing to US prices, remember we have to pay state and local taxes at the time of sale. In my area it's 8.5% added to the purchase price. But we don't have to pay Texas sales tax when buying by mail order, unless the mail-order company has offices in Texas. So I buy from out-of-state mail-order firms quite often to save the 8.5% tax. Several years ago I was involved with a group of friends from Switzerland. The got together once a year and came to the US to vacation and to buy clothes. They told me they saved so much on clothes that it almost paid for their trip. -- Happy Trails, Texdance http://members.fortunecity.com/texdance http://members1.clubphoto.com/john8202 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: reading material
In a message dated 7/12/01 10:15:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would suggest any Freeman Patterson books. They are excellent sources to improve your photography.. Vic Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:17:47 -0400 From: CW [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: reading material I would like some recommendations for books that can help me improve my photography. I have a basic knowledge but would like to get better. I would also like to try low low-budget home darkroom work. It's such a pain to have BW film developed in the mini-lab world. I have no experience developing and printing film so any texts here would need to be from step-one. Thanks, Cory Waters Atlanta, GA USA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
can someone recommend a good lens shade?
I have a K1000 with a 50mm lens. I also have a 135mm lens coming in the mail. Can someone recommend a good lens shade for either/both of these lenses? Thanks, Amita http://www.picturesofmyfinger.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My First Impressions on the MZ-S
Your lens apertures are getting sticky. They need to be CLA'd. The diaphragm should snap into the same position every time and the opening shouldn't change size depending on how fast or slow the diaphragm is moving. Even cheep lenses shouldn't behave this way. At 07:11 PM 7/11/2001 -0500, you wrote: Interesting. It could also be a problem they fixed with the ZX series cameras, or maybe they are all supposed to do that and my camera is busted. Another possibility is that it has something to do with the meter inaccuracy problems with the PZ-1p, matrix metering, and A lenses? Something simular that I have noticed with my older cameras, like the KX, is that the lens will stop down differently depending on how fast I push the DOF lever down. If I do it slow, it will be wider than if I push it fast. It seems to stop down the same if I push it down fast and when the camera fires the shutter, so I am not too concerned. This is most evident on the A 50mm F1.4 and a Sears 135mm. Maybe the PZ-1p's aperture lever is stopping the lens down more slowly when the lens is set to A than it does when an aperture is selected by the aperture ring? Todd At 03:20 PM 7/11/01 -0700, you wrote: I have not noticed and significate differences with my A lenses and the ZX-M. So it's possible that Alan's camera simply needs adjusting, which would make sense since they are all off by about the same amount. I did have my Z-1p checked by Pentax when I was in Australia few years ago. Unfortunately, the guy said the camera was perfectly okay and gave me an unfriendly look (felt like I was making something up). Since my recent Z-1p has exactly the same problem (or not a problem at all), I don't think my Z-1ps (2 in total) were an insolated case. regards, Alan Chan _ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S in Madison or Milwaukee, WI area?
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:13:26 +1000, you wrote: What is a fried cheese curd? Cya It is heat-treated manna from heaven. -- John Will Work For Curds Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: UNBELIEVABLE!
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:18:15 -0500, Mike caused the Hounds of Asahi to howl with anguish when he wrote: WOW!!! Somebody just put up a mint LX and an Like New A* 85mm f/1.4 for a Buy It Now price of $550 and I snagged it!!! Mike - Such posts are very hazardous. I mean, some of us really hate missing an Ebay bargain. I'm off to the dentist - gotta fix some gnashed teeth. -- John Mustarde - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MX mirror not swinging back into place below 1/250th
Hi I've just won an MX with a Pentax M f1.4 lense at an auction for the sum-total of US$33.95 (including shipping), but it has one problem with it and I'm hoping someone on the list can enlighten me as to what might be wrong with it. I originally won the camera at $59.95 (including shipping) but on a last-minute check the seller found there was a problem with it (contrary to the advertised description), and offered it to me at the reduced price, which I have accepted. I don't have the camera yet, and the seller has advised me that the mirror is not swinging back into place correctly at speeds slower than 1/250. Could this be the same sort of problem as the LX's sticky mirror problem, or might this be something else. How expensive would it be to service an MX? Any reflections would be appreciated. Also please note that I receive the digest form of this list so if you could cc me on your reply to the list then that would be great. Thanx Nicole PS I've just scanned in my photocopied SuperProgram owner's manual, so if someone could offer a WWW site for me to put it onto then I'd be happy to make it available. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 18% Gray (again)
Well, Mike, even if the meters are setup for a 13% gray, and I still doubt that because as I have said my Sekonic 308 gives the same reading with light reflected for an 18% gray card as it does in incident mode, all you have to do is reduce your ASA by that amount and use 18% because all that is affected by that is where the calculator scale is set relative to the meter reading . The meter calibration is actually done as I have describe here several times. BTW is the difference between 13% and 18% 1/3 stop or is it 1/2 stop? (I don't have a scientific calculator any more). --Tom Mike Johnston wrote: Tom R. exploded: I am the one who argues that this 13% thing is bull. Tom, Actually it's not. The ANSI standard is around 12% and a lot of manufacturers use 13%. Of course, as with film speed, the manufacturers do what they want to do, so many of them do calibrate to 18%. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them have enough tolerance built into their calibrations that they VARY from 12% to 18%! g Just because you get two meters to agree with each other doesn't mean all other meters are like those two. Try comparing a Nikon and a Contax meter, for instance. As I said before, Ctein has tested this and reported his findings in his book. His original source was Dick Dickerson, who is just a wee tad more authoritative than Bob Shell--Dick oversaw the development of the T-Max films, Polymax papers and chemicals, the Kodak chromogenic film, and Xtol, among other things. You want me to ask Dick about it? Or Ctein? I will if you want. The thing is, I really think that since Ctein went to all the trouble to write it all down in his book, the least we can do is give him the courtesy of going to read about it there, instead of asking him to rewrite it again in an individualized e-mail. But I'll ask him if you'd like me to. His book is called _Post Exposure_, Focal Press (www.bh.com), ISBN 0-240-80299-3. The whole book is well worth having. --Mike P.S. Mark Roberts, No, I don't know the title of the relevant ANSI document, but perhaps I can find out. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
