Re: Strange MX on Ebay
Yes, probably. I already have one of those, but also with a black bottom plate. They are easy to recognize :-) . A probably ugly chrome MX with new black top and bottom plates. It works perfectly, and I have only payed 40 USD for it, after selling some lenses that came with it. Regards Anders Werholt - Original Message - From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discussion Malling List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, 23 March, 2002 02:30 Subject: Strange MX on Ebay > Looks like someone canibalized two cameras to make this one > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1340242526 > > Ciao, > Graywolf > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)
On 22 Mar 2002 at 23:55, William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: tom > > > > You sure? My Pentax rep has thrown a 5.5x loupe into the pool, > just to sweeten the pot. > > I have one of those already. Me too, but I figure with two of them I can edit negs twice as fast. > But. How about we just say that > the pool is for whatever the next limited lens is, whenever it > comes out? My thoughts are along those lines, but I was thinking we'd have another open period for people to opt in or opt out. Say 1 week starting from this Monday. Also, I propose a tie breaking committee to decide who wins if it isn't obvious. I nominate Bob Walkden, Pal Jensen and Tom Rittenhouse. Pal knows too much, and would have to be excluded anyway. ;) tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
First, let me say, while I was replying to your post, I was not talking to you specifically, nor am I doing so in this reply. On this list I get the distinct impression that if it is of no use to the responder personally, it is no use to anybody. And, like it or not, it is likely that Pentax uses this list as at least part of their market research. So, when we as a group, who have no need, nor interest for, say, a high-end digital say there is no market for it, we are influencing the thinking at Pentax. The problem with that is that the people who would be in the market for something like that have no input what so ever to Pentax. Canon, and Nikon, with their professional freebee programs have a great deal of input from the high end users, that effects their marketing. The conventional wisdom on this list is that the LX is so expensive that there is no market for it. My friend the Pentax Rep always tells me how it costs too much to make to sell to the Pentax users market at the price they need to get. But, they had been making them in limited quantities. The thing no one seems to notice, is that those expensive unsellable cameras are not piled up in a warehouse somewhere, someone was buying them. Considering that Pentax has done everything in its power to alienate that customer base that seems very strange to me. >From this list, it would seem that Pentax need make no more cameras what so ever. All of us only want the old used ones, we seem to think the new ones are junk. The MZ-S is too expensive. Well, unlike some other cameras, the reason you don't see them on dealers shelves is the dealers have a hard time getting them. When I have seen them on the shelves around here, they are gone in two weeks. Two weeks is a fabulous turn over in the camera business, so any dealer in his right mind would like to have a couple in stock. Limited lenses are horrendously expensive, they too are selling fast as they make them. So somebody is buying them. Since Aaron started bragging about the 6x7 they have gotten popular with list members, they seem to sell well, even with all the old ones available used for little money. They are not in the market this list generally seems to think is the only one Pentax sells to. But, you know what, I doubt very much that pentax is pushing them to the market that is buying them. What you, or I, want and need is not the only thing Pentax or someone else should sell. One local dealer here sells the Canon D-30, they melt off the shelves as fast as he gets them in. The other dealers say they don't sell, but if you want one they will special order it at full list price for you. Screwy thinking seems to be the industry norm. What I would buy is not the market anyone should look at, and I know that. If I had the money to have the equipment I really want the only thing contemporary on the list would be a high end 35mm based digital. My wish list other than that high end digital is a Linhof Super Technika outfit, a Mamiya Universal Press outfit, and a multi Pentax MX outfit. None of these have been produced in more than a decade. (Well they still make a Technika but nice as it is, it is junk compared to the older ones), The strange thing is I have had all those in the past. My life has not been conductive to retaining things. Every time I have sold things like these it was with the intention of replacing them soon. Life has a way of not working out the way I want it to. I seem to have wandered astray so I will shut up and go away for now. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 12:04 AM Subject: RE: Pentax digital SLR - Not now! > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of T Rittenhouse > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:26 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now! > > > > > > Hey, I am going to butt in and reply to this. > > > > No, Dave's 8x10s ain't no where near as good as a good chemical print from > > 35mm. They are about as good as the 'make an 8x10 from your 4x6 print' > > prints that most people are going to compare them to. But then he > > sells them > > right then and there and pockets the money. His other choice is to go have > > prints made and approach the customer a few days latter as I have done in > > the past, or at the next event if the customer is at the next > > event. So his > > choice is salon grade prints, or a pocket full of money. To me > > that is not a > > hard choice to make. His prints are acceptable to his clients and that is > > really all that matters. > > I'm not criticizing what he's doing especially if he's making money from > it. BUT, I am an amatuer hobby enthusiast that has only one client - ME! > I want the fullest quality 35mm can offer because to M
RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Bruce Rubenstein wrote: > To quote an old American baseball player, "Deja-vue all over again!" There were > the same exact same posts here several years ago regarding the mythical MZ-1. > Over the years I have come to the opinion that if Pentax's current products > satisfy your needs, stay with them. If you need them to come out with something > new, you will wind up in anticipation purgatory. Since I first joined this list in about '98 or '99, there's been constant "new flagship at next show" predictions, almost always followed by "did I say this show? I meant the next show" cop-outs. It's just a 'feature' of the PDML. dave -- dave o'brien - http://www.diaspoir.net Stay away from hurricanes for a while. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)
- Original Message - From: tom Subject: Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?) > On 22 Mar 2002 at 18:55, William Robb wrote: > > > > Scrap it. > > > > You sure? My Pentax rep has thrown a 5.5x loupe into the pool, just to sweeten the pot. I have one of those already. But. How about we just say that the pool is for whatever the next limited lens is, whenever it comes out? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)
On 22 Mar 2002 at 18:55, William Robb wrote: > > Scrap it. > You sure? My Pentax rep has thrown a 5.5x loupe into the pool, just to sweeten the pot. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Strange MX on Ebay
>Looks like someone canibalized two cameras to make this one > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1340242526 Perhaps it was assembled from the bin? Just doesn't look right to me. :( regards, Alan Chan _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: pancake question
>Do you think they are really buying the pancake because it is a >collectable? >It isn't, to my knowledge, a rarity. I think they were produced in pretty >great quantity. I think the lens has gained an undeserved reputation of >being an extremely sharp lens, because of all of the BS written about it in >ebay item descriptions. The sheer numbers of them that pass through ebay >should make folks wonder exactly how good they could actually be. If it >was >a really great lens, and a collectable, there wouldn't be so many of them >available. If you mean the M40/2.8, I would agree with you. I didn't see what so special about that lens other than it's compact size (a minus to me actually because it was too small to operate comfortably). I think some people just tried to make something out of nothing. regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pancake question
>But the FA 43 f/1.9 just doesn't seem to inspire the fervor, >neither here nor on ebay, that the original pancake does, so >maybe the 3mm longer and the f/1.9 aperture just doesn't equate >to a genuine pancake lens. Perhaps folks want their lenses >small and soft, relatively speaking, because the pancake is not >anywhere close to as good as the FA 43 f/1.9 in performance. I'd say the time for the FA43/1.9 hasn't come yet. The M40/2.8 was once like the dirt cheap 50mm and they were everywhere. It wasn't something special or expensive, and many showed up in 2ndhand shops at dirt cheap prices. 15+ years on, somehow the pancake fever took off and many people wanted one and paid ridiculous price for it. Consider the FA43/1.9 was truly the most compact and well made AF lens ever, I'd say it will become a highly desirable item in the future too. Perhaps another 15+ years? regards, Alan Chan _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: mf 70-200 f 4 owners
>Thanks Alan for the insight.I'll have to keep an >eye out for the sticker.I'm not to worried about >close up work,mine is mostly at the 200 end >so infinite focus is important to me.I have not recieved >an answer to my e mail about what type of lense,the A or >the SMC A. The Takumar is also an 'A' lens. regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of T Rittenhouse > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now! > > > Hey, I am going to butt in and reply to this. > > No, Dave's 8x10s ain't no where near as good as a good chemical print from > 35mm. They are about as good as the 'make an 8x10 from your 4x6 print' > prints that most people are going to compare them to. But then he > sells them > right then and there and pockets the money. His other choice is to go have > prints made and approach the customer a few days latter as I have done in > the past, or at the next event if the customer is at the next > event. So his > choice is salon grade prints, or a pocket full of money. To me > that is not a > hard choice to make. His prints are acceptable to his clients and that is > really all that matters. I'm not criticizing what he's doing especially if he's making money from it. BUT, I am an amatuer hobby enthusiast that has only one client - ME! I want the fullest quality 35mm can offer because to ME its marginal format to begin with. I have little interest in the current digital SLRs because I feel they are not as good as good 35mm yet. I'm sure in the future I will end up with one but not now. It's still too much of a compromise to me in terms of picture quality. > > This list like most of the photography lists has this elitist > bent that has > nothing to do with reality. This lens in not sharp, that lens is really, > good, when 99% of the people who look at the photographs can not tell the > difference. The depth of field on this print is not acceptable they say, > leaving nose prints on the print. I dont find that much difference between lenses on a given format but they are there, just subtle. I find HUGE differences between formats 35mm vs. 6X7 for example both in sharpness and grain. > > Not only does Pentax not know anything about supplying gear to > professional > photographers, neither do their customers know anything about what is a > useful and therefore valuable piece of equipment to someone > trying to make a > living from photography, or at least make it pay for itself. And, as an > aside, while photojournalism is the most visible type of professional > photography it is only a small part of the professional market > Pentax doesnt make any money from pros, their market is amatuers. Why do you think they bailed out on the LX??? It wasnt making enuff money. > Now I know that most of the people on the list who looked at my web page, > thought, "what lousy pictures", but many of those snap shots, and I > unabashedly admit I do snap shots, put money in my pocket. > Nothing wrong from making money from ANY shots if you can, but I want image quality for my own satifaction, I dont see how that is eliteist in any way. > I know pros who do make money from pretty pictures, but I doubt > if very many > of them make a profit. Let's see a 30x40 Cibachrome, matting, framing. My > cost $300 or $400. I need to haul around a 50 or so of them so my > potential > customers can paw through them. Ah, I sold 3 8x10s this week for > $50 each. I > have sold 20 or so of my $20 snap shots in a weekend. I imagine that is > about what Dave does also. His digital solves the problem that defeated me > in the past, how to get prints to the customer before they go > home from the > event. Thats a great application for digital no doubt, but totally inappropriate for what I want out of my photography. Different applications altogether. > > Why not buy a toy digicam? Because of the stupid problems that go > with them > like the one you mentioned. What use is a camera that keeps > shutting itself > off in the middle of a shoot to a professional. That feature is for idiot > that takes two shots of their daughter on the teeter-totter then put the > camera away until next weekend without shutting it off. No, that feature is to save battery consumption. Digicams with LCDs are power hogs. How many batteries does he go thru on a shoot? > Also the bigger > sensor gives higher quality images than the small sensor in the toy camera > does at the same resolution. > They are better in terms of noise yes, but not resolution. Lower noise is a definate plus in terms of image quality though. > I guess what I want to say is, get real. > > Ciao, > Graywolf I think I am being realistic when I complain about the problems with todays digital SLRs for MY type of photography. Hell, sometimes I not even satisfied with 6X7 wishing instead that I had used my speed graphic for some shots. I just dont understand how you can say that wanting maximum image quality is "unrealistic". JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Black limited lens coating - does it wear?
> >According to Herbert Keppler this outer body is made of brass. > >Apparently, Herbert Keppler is wrong. I've just been told that the outer >body is indeed aluminium. I don't remember where I read it, but I remember somewhere mentioned the 43/1.9 had aluminium body when it was released. regards, Alan Chan _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SP1000 battery
I carry a couple of spares for my SP's and SPF's, and the Varta V400PX 1.35V Mercury (PX 400) is the one for my SP1000. James - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:38 PM Subject: RE: Pentax SP1000 battery > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, David Chang-Sang wrote: > > > Frantisek, > > > > http://www.henrys.com > > > > Look under "film/batteries/bulbs" > > Then under "battery" (then "batteries" from the drop down menu) > > Second page.. last item. > > WeinCell MRB625 (px625) Non-Mercury 1.35 Volt battery for $9.99 CDN (about > > $6.00 US) > > Right idea, wrong battery. The one for the SP1000 is a 400-series > battery. It's on the second page of Henry's battery list. > > chris > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff
on 3/23/02 2:33 AM, David Brooks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Got another roll of B&W back from the Y- > M.Starting to like this format. > Hlp me > Why? Some of us LIKE 6x6. If only Pentax made one I even helped another list member aquire a Yashica 6x6. JeffW. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Rikenon 50/1.4?
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 11:28:05PM -0500, Mark Cassino wrote: > Somehow I managed to acquire a whole passel of Rikenon normal lenses - the > 50mm f1.4, 50mm f1.7, 50mm f2.0, and 55mm f1.2. Still looking for a 45mm > f2.8 though... I saw a classied for the 45/2.8 sometime back. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question
Yup, if I'm home you can just come by and see how it's done and watch me scratch the negs. --- David Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds good Brendan.Bad weekend,we're looking > for a new horse,are you open for B&W guest most > weekends? > > Dave > > Begin Original Message > > From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:08:22 -0500 (EST) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question > > > Your 10 minutes away come on down and b(&w), I'm > actually quite > facinated in how macros look in b&w. > > --- David Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brendan,this is my next quest.To B(&W) or not > to > > B(&W) > > > > Dave > > - Original Message - > > From: "Brendan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:50 PM > > Subject: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question > > > > > > > Developing B&W is fairly easy, the hard > part is > > > handling the finishe > > > negs and not scratching them or keeping > dust off > > of > > > them.This is the > > > part I need to master still. > > > > > > --- Chris Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Chris ... > > > > > > > > > > Keep it simple, good, and inexpensive - > an El > > > > Nikkor 50/2.8 is a very > > > > > fine "starter" lens. They are generally > quite > > good > > > > optically, and they > > > > > are common, which makes finding a good > example > > > > relatively easy and > > > > > fairly inexpensive. It's also good > enough to > > make > > > > larger prints. > > > > > > > > > > As for an enlarger, there are two ways > to look > > at > > > > a first purchase. One > > > > > way is to buy something inexpensive and > > simple, to > > > > use while you're > > > > > learning, until you know what you want > to do > > in > > > > the darkroom. At that > > > > > point you'll have a good idea of the > features > > > > you'd want in an enlarger, > > > > > how big you'd like to print, and the > formats > > that > > > > might be of interest. > > > > > > > > > > The other is to spend some money and > buy an > > > > enlarger that you can grow > > > > > into. Beselers, Omegas, Saunders, some > > Dursts, > > > > are all common brands > > > > > with good reputations that offer good > quality. > > > > > > > > > > So, first decide how you want to > proceed, then > > > > look in those areas. > > > > > > > > I guess it depends on what the pockets can > > afford :) > > > > I am going to try to > > > > process some of my first b&w negs (Tmax > 100) > > this > > > > weekend, I have to get a > > > > tank, reel, and chem. I have a > thermometer, I > > think > > > > that is all i need. > > > > > > > > The lens lengths confused me, I saw a lot > of > > 50mm so > > > > I assumed those were > > > > the "Standard" to start with. I am not > sure how > > they > > > > relate to the > > > > printing process. > > > > > > > > I am going to wait another week or so > before I > > get > > > > ready to buy an > > > > enlarger. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > > > > > - Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chris Murray /"\ > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / > ASCII > > RIBBON > > > > CAMPAIGN > > > > > http://apeman.org/ X AGAINST > > > > HTML MAIL > > > > Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ > > > > - > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss > Mail > > List. > > > > To unsubscribe, > > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > > directions. > > > > Don't forget to > > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > > > > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > File your taxes online! > http://taxes.yahoo.ca > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss > Mail List. > > To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > > directions. Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > > http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail > List. > > To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. > > Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > __ > File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail > List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > End Original Message > > > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ontario Canada > http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj > > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: > http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To === message truncated === _
Re: RE: Pentax SP1000 battery
All of the K-mount, and I think most of the Screw-mount, Pentaxes have voltage regulator circuits and you can use the alkaline equivalent batteries just fine. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: David Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: Re: RE: Pentax SP1000 battery > Hum.The manager at Henrys Newmarket last > year ,when i went in looking for M42 lenses and > Spotty batteries,flat out told me screw > mounts/and batteries were non existent in the > GTA and no camera store would carry them as now > one wanted them.Quess were i dont shop now. > Sun Camera Repair in Concord Ontario has > replacement batteries but have run out of the > sleeves. > > Dave > > Begin Original Message > > From: "David Chang-Sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:35:15 -0500 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Pentax SP1000 battery > > > Frantisek, > > http://www.henrys.com > > Look under "film/batteries/bulbs" > Then under "battery" (then "batteries" from the > drop down menu) > Second page.. last item. > WeinCell MRB625 (px625) Non-Mercury 1.35 Volt > battery for $9.99 CDN (about > $6.00 US) > > Cheers, > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Frantisek Vlcek > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Pentax SP1000 battery > > > Hi, > what's the proper battery for an M42 Asahi > Pentax Sp1000? I picked > one up in near mint cosmetic shape but with > some health problems > (working on them now, though), and want to > try the meter. > > Also, if the original battery is a 1.35 > mercury, will the 1.5 > alkaline work well (considering that > alkalines get from 1.65 to > 1.25V over their life, but mercury batteries > stay near 1.35 almost > all their life)? Which battery "numbers" > will work in it? It is > about the half size of SR44 it seems. > > A wonderful camera, it made my photography > simpler (as the meter > isn't working), I put a portrait 1.8/80mm > lens on it and meter > handheld, and it's great... A nice > complementation to the LX I use > normally :) > > Good light, > Frantisek Vlcek > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail > List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail > List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > End Original Message > > > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ontario Canada > http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj > > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question
Sounds good Brendan.Bad weekend,we're looking for a new horse,are you open for B&W guest most weekends? Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:08:22 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question Your 10 minutes away come on down and b(&w), I'm actually quite facinated in how macros look in b&w. --- David Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brendan,this is my next quest.To B(&W) or not to > B(&W) > > Dave > - Original Message - > From: "Brendan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question > > > > Developing B&W is fairly easy, the hard part is > > handling the finishe > > negs and not scratching them or keeping dust off > of > > them.This is the > > part I need to master still. > > > > --- Chris Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Chris ... > > > > > > > > Keep it simple, good, and inexpensive - an El > > > Nikkor 50/2.8 is a very > > > > fine "starter" lens. They are generally quite > good > > > optically, and they > > > > are common, which makes finding a good example > > > relatively easy and > > > > fairly inexpensive. It's also good enough to > make > > > larger prints. > > > > > > > > As for an enlarger, there are two ways to look > at > > > a first purchase. One > > > > way is to buy something inexpensive and > simple, to > > > use while you're > > > > learning, until you know what you want to do > in > > > the darkroom. At that > > > > point you'll have a good idea of the features > > > you'd want in an enlarger, > > > > how big you'd like to print, and the formats > that > > > might be of interest. > > > > > > > > The other is to spend some money and buy an > > > enlarger that you can grow > > > > into. Beselers, Omegas, Saunders, some > Dursts, > > > are all common brands > > > > with good reputations that offer good quality. > > > > > > > > So, first decide how you want to proceed, then > > > look in those areas. > > > > > > I guess it depends on what the pockets can > afford :) > > > I am going to try to > > > process some of my first b&w negs (Tmax 100) > this > > > weekend, I have to get a > > > tank, reel, and chem. I have a thermometer, I > think > > > that is all i need. > > > > > > The lens lengths confused me, I saw a lot of > 50mm so > > > I assumed those were > > > the "Standard" to start with. I am not sure how > they > > > relate to the > > > printing process. > > > > > > I am going to wait another week or so before I > get > > > ready to buy an > > > enlarger. > > > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > > > - Chris > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Chris Murray /"\ > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII > RIBBON > > > CAMPAIGN > > > http://apeman.org/ X AGAINST > > > HTML MAIL > > > Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail > List. > > > To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. > > > Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > > > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
Hey, I am going to butt in and reply to this. No, Dave's 8x10s ain't no where near as good as a good chemical print from 35mm. They are about as good as the 'make an 8x10 from your 4x6 print' prints that most people are going to compare them to. But then he sells them right then and there and pockets the money. His other choice is to go have prints made and approach the customer a few days latter as I have done in the past, or at the next event if the customer is at the next event. So his choice is salon grade prints, or a pocket full of money. To me that is not a hard choice to make. His prints are acceptable to his clients and that is really all that matters. This list like most of the photography lists has this elitist bent that has nothing to do with reality. This lens in not sharp, that lens is really, good, when 99% of the people who look at the photographs can not tell the difference. The depth of field on this print is not acceptable they say, leaving nose prints on the print. Not only does Pentax not know anything about supplying gear to professional photographers, neither do their customers know anything about what is a useful and therefore valuable piece of equipment to someone trying to make a living from photography, or at least make it pay for itself. And, as an aside, while photojournalism is the most visible type of professional photography it is only a small part of the professional market Now I know that most of the people on the list who looked at my web page, thought, "what lousy pictures", but many of those snap shots, and I unabashedly admit I do snap shots, put money in my pocket. I know pros who do make money from pretty pictures, but I doubt if very many of them make a profit. Let's see a 30x40 Cibachrome, matting, framing. My cost $300 or $400. I need to haul around a 50 or so of them so my potential customers can paw through them. Ah, I sold 3 8x10s this week for $50 each. I have sold 20 or so of my $20 snap shots in a weekend. I imagine that is about what Dave does also. His digital solves the problem that defeated me in the past, how to get prints to the customer before they go home from the event. Why not buy a toy digicam? Because of the stupid problems that go with them like the one you mentioned. What use is a camera that keeps shutting itself off in the middle of a shoot to a professional. That feature is for idiot that takes two shots of their daughter on the teeter-totter then put the camera away until next weekend without shutting it off. Also the bigger sensor gives higher quality images than the small sensor in the toy camera does at the same resolution. I guess what I want to say is, get real. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: RE: Pentax digital SLR - Not now! > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Brooks > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:13 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Pentax digital SLR - Not now! > > > > > > Hi JCO.I have to agree,even thought i plunged > > and bought a D1 last year.I still like to > > shoot/fiddle ,how ever you like to put it,with > > film.Part of the reason is i still have yet to > > master difficultlighting/flash with the digital > > cameras. > > Yes, I've heard the digitals are unable to capture > extremely wide contrast scene. Also they have an > exposure latitude more like slide film which is > not exactly a good thing. > > > I don't have a problem with shutter lag,as the > > D1 acts like a proper SLR in that respect, > > Well thats good. But doesnt the camera "go to > sleep" if you go a while without taking a picture? > My digicam does and I hate that. > > > > >and > > my main reason to purchase was to get into the > > higher level digital(used)and take and sell > > pictures at events. > > What do you do, shoot AND print on location? > > > > Graywolf has inspected some prints from the D1 > > and S800 printer and gave me/it a good review. > > Have you done direct comparisons with well made optical > prints using slow film? Less than 3 Mp seems to > me to be too low for 8X10 compared to film.? > > > > I like digital,but i had to spend a lot of > > extra money to buy lenses for Ni**.If Pentax > > comes out with something like the D1 i'll give > > it my 100% focus. > > Why not just buy a 5MP digicam ( non slr), they > are only about $1K? > > > Right now,2.74 megpix is helping me pay for an > > expensive hobby/weekend businessbut i'm happy > > with the results. > > Well, thats the main thing! > > > BUT I still like film.Old habbits???Two months > > after i bought a state of the art digital,i buy > > a used S3,go fiqure > > > > Dave > > Best thing about them oldies is they arent > obsolete (yet) even after 40 years. I dont >
Re: Rikenon 50/1.4?
Somehow I managed to acquire a whole passel of Rikenon normal lenses - the 50mm f1.4, 50mm f1.7, 50mm f2.0, and 55mm f1.2. Still looking for a 45mm f2.8 though... I've found the 50mm f1.4 to be a nice lens, but not the sharpest optic out there. It is unsharp in a pleasant way, though - sort of soft but sharp, as if the resolution is not great but the edge detail is good, so prominent areas of contrast stand out but fine details blur off... But that all sounds contradictory and, well, impossible... Anyhow - I knew I had a couple of PUG submissions taken with this lens, but I'm surprised to see how many. I probably have more submissions with this lens than any other on the PUG. SO if you want to see some samples: http://pug.komkon.org/01mar/rospug.html http://pug.komkon.org/00apri/Watchtower.htm http://pug.komkon.org/00janu/Cappers.htm http://pug.komkon.org/99feb/alt15.htm http://pug.komkon.org/99mar/fun.htm The Rikenon was used as a diopter on a screw mount 135 for this one: http://pug.komkon.org/99apr/cw01.html To be honest, I haven't used it much since getting the Rikenon 55mm f1.2 and later an A 50 f1.4. I did some formal testing of the two Rikenons vs the A 50 - and without a doubt the A 50 was the sharpest with the Rikenon 55 f1.2 not far behind. The Rikenon 50 f1.4 did not fair very well compared to the others. The A 50 f1.4 is not only the sharpest, but does a great job with color rendition and has the best flare control. I still sometimes grab the 55 f1.2 because it's larger, feels better when focusing, and offers that great shallow DOF for precise focusing. I don't think I've used the Rikenon 50mm f1.4 for about year now. BTW - I could swear I read somewhere that the Rikenon 50mm f2.0 was the sharpest lens ever made for 35mm slrs - but for the life of me I have not been able to locate where I read that. I bought one on ebay (they are pretty cheap) but haven't gotten around to testing it. - MCC At 10:53 AM 3/22/02 -0500, you wrote: >Someone on another discussion list wrote that about 10 years ago, a >magazine tested 50/1.4 lenses and found the XR Rikenon 50/1.4 to be the >sharpest from f/2 through f/4. It beat the Contax. Does anyone have >experience with this lens? > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Pentax Models
I thought ya'll said Pentax didn't know anything about marketing ... ;) - Original Message - From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:44 PM Subject: Re: New Pentax Models > Go away! This guy does not speak for me. Those exactly the kind of new > Pentax Models I like. > > Ciao, > Graywolf > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto > > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:47 PM > Subject: New Pentax Models > > > > In a message dated 3/22/02 3:13:22 PM, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > writes: > > > > << http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/ >> > > > > Not exactly what we want when we ask for new Pentax models. > > Burt > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: RE: Pentax SP1000 battery
David,please contact me off list.The more i try to deal with the fringe stores tick me off. I dealy with Vincent with all of the D 1 stuff,great sales(person) Dave Begin Original Message From: "David Chang-Sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:47:16 -0500 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: RE: Pentax SP1000 battery Outside of the downtown store.. I don't shop at any of the outlying Henry's stores for a few reasons: 1) I know staff in the downtown store and trust only 2 of them to give me honest answers and decent discounts 2) The staff in outlying stores only THINK they know something.. they're mainly just sales folk Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question
Your 10 minutes away come on down and b(&w), I'm actually quite facinated in how macros look in b&w. --- David Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brendan,this is my next quest.To B(&W) or not to > B(&W) > > Dave > - Original Message - > From: "Brendan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question > > > > Developing B&W is fairly easy, the hard part is > > handling the finishe > > negs and not scratching them or keeping dust off > of > > them.This is the > > part I need to master still. > > > > --- Chris Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Chris ... > > > > > > > > Keep it simple, good, and inexpensive - an El > > > Nikkor 50/2.8 is a very > > > > fine "starter" lens. They are generally quite > good > > > optically, and they > > > > are common, which makes finding a good example > > > relatively easy and > > > > fairly inexpensive. It's also good enough to > make > > > larger prints. > > > > > > > > As for an enlarger, there are two ways to look > at > > > a first purchase. One > > > > way is to buy something inexpensive and > simple, to > > > use while you're > > > > learning, until you know what you want to do > in > > > the darkroom. At that > > > > point you'll have a good idea of the features > > > you'd want in an enlarger, > > > > how big you'd like to print, and the formats > that > > > might be of interest. > > > > > > > > The other is to spend some money and buy an > > > enlarger that you can grow > > > > into. Beselers, Omegas, Saunders, some > Dursts, > > > are all common brands > > > > with good reputations that offer good quality. > > > > > > > > So, first decide how you want to proceed, then > > > look in those areas. > > > > > > I guess it depends on what the pockets can > afford :) > > > I am going to try to > > > process some of my first b&w negs (Tmax 100) > this > > > weekend, I have to get a > > > tank, reel, and chem. I have a thermometer, I > think > > > that is all i need. > > > > > > The lens lengths confused me, I saw a lot of > 50mm so > > > I assumed those were > > > the "Standard" to start with. I am not sure how > they > > > relate to the > > > printing process. > > > > > > I am going to wait another week or so before I > get > > > ready to buy an > > > enlarger. > > > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > > > - Chris > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Chris Murray /"\ > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII > RIBBON > > > CAMPAIGN > > > http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST > > > HTML MAIL > > > Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ > > > - > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail > List. > > > To unsubscribe, > > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. > > > Don't forget to > > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > > > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question
- Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question > I knew that if I waited long enough I would find esthetics on this list > someday. yer welcome. Brother William - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Pentax SP1000 battery
Hi Frank.I bought 4 ,400 mercury batteries from Pentax Canada last year for $8.00 Can,I tried to buy extras for the Spotty i enherited but they have informed nop. Got a distict vibe from the Henrys manager in NM that he does not like our preference of camera. Dave Begin Original Message From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:12:35 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax SP1000 battery Hi, Dave, Actually, I think I got the last 6 mercury cells from Henry's :-). About a year and a half ago, I cleaned them out. Kept a couple for myself, and gave three or four to list members (at cost, of course). The salesperson told me that they wouldn't be getting any more in, claiming that Varta discontinued them. Henry's does have alkaline replacements, however; at least they did last time I looked... regards, frank David Brooks wrote: > Hum.The manager at Henrys Newmarket last > year ,when i went in looking for M42 lenses and > Spotty batteries,flat out told me screw > mounts/and batteries were non existent in the > GTA and no camera store would carry them as now > one wanted them. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Pentax Models
Go away! This guy does not speak for me. Those exactly the kind of new Pentax Models I like. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:47 PM Subject: New Pentax Models > In a message dated 3/22/02 3:13:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > << http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/ >> > > Not exactly what we want when we ask for new Pentax models. > Burt > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question
I knew that if I waited long enough I would find esthetics on this list someday. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:11 PM Subject: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question > - Original Message - > From: > Subject: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question > > > > Developing B&W is fairly easy, the hard part is > > handling the finishe > > negs and not scratching them or keeping dust off of > > them.This is the > > part I need to master still. > > The hard part is not developing B&W, the hard part is developing > a sense of esthetics for the medium. > Everything else is simple mechanics. > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: RE: Pentax SP1000 battery
Outside of the downtown store.. I don't shop at any of the outlying Henry's stores for a few reasons: 1) I know staff in the downtown store and trust only 2 of them to give me honest answers and decent discounts 2) The staff in outlying stores only THINK they know something.. they're mainly just sales folk 3) The downtown store is so close to Downtown camera, I can take 5 minutes to compare prices and figure out which store I want to deal with (if I buy something retail) Example: Last summer, I was looking to snag a hand held meter. With Aaron's suggestion in hand (The Sekonic L308-B) I went into Henry's and was told the price of approx $450. I walked over to Downtown camera and got the same meter for $290. Example II: This February, I was shopping for a film scanner. Walked into Henry's after doing my research and asked about the Minolta Scan Elite II. Was told that my price would be $1089.00. Walked over to Downtown Camera and was told the price of $1179.00. Bought it at Henry's. it also helps that I work downtown and about 10 min from either store :) But if I had received that service from Henry's, I'd be doing the same thing you are. Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Brooks Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Pentax SP1000 battery Hum.The manager at Henrys Newmarket last year ,when i went in looking for M42 lenses and Spotty batteries,flat out told me screw mounts/and batteries were non existent in the GTA and no camera store would carry them as now one wanted them.Quess were i dont shop now. Sun Camera Repair in Concord Ontario has replacement batteries but have run out of the sleeves. Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
JOC,Limited knowledge replie below. Begin Original Message I don't have a problem with shutter lag,as the > D1 acts like a proper SLR in that respect, > >and > my main reason to purchase was to get into the > higher level digital(used)and take and sell > pictures at events. < Graywolf has inspected some prints from the D1 > and S800 printer and gave me/it a good review. I like digital,but i had to spend a lot of > extra money to buy lenses for Ni**.If Pentax > comes out with something like the D1 i'll give > it my 100% focus. Right now,2.74 megpix is helping me pay for an > expensive hobby/weekend businessbut i'm happy > with the results. Well, thats the main thing! > BUT I still like film.Old habbits???Two months > after i bought a state of the art digital,i buy > a used S3,go fiqure > > Dave Best thing about them oldies is they arent obsolete (yet) even after 40 years. I dont think we'll be able to say that about ANY digital SLR for a long time if ever. Can you imagine where digital cameras will be in 10 years from now let alone fourty? JCO probably still around Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SP1000 battery
oops. Just noticed that you were talking about the Newmarket store, Dave. I was talking about downtown. Sorry. -frank frank theriault wrote: > Hi, Dave, > > Actually, I think I got the last 6 mercury cells from Henry's :-). > About a year and a half ago, I cleaned them out. Kept a couple for > myself, and gave three or four to list members (at cost, of course). > The salesperson told me that they wouldn't be getting any more in, > claiming that Varta discontinued them. > > Henry's does have alkaline replacements, however; at least they did > last time I looked... > > regards, > frank > > David Brooks wrote: > > > Hum.The manager at Henrys Newmarket last > > year ,when i went in looking for M42 lenses and > > Spotty batteries,flat out told me screw > > mounts/and batteries were non existent in the > > GTA and no camera store would carry them as now > > one wanted them. > > > -- > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The > pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert > Oppenheimer > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SP1000 battery
Hi, Dave, Actually, I think I got the last 6 mercury cells from Henry's :-). About a year and a half ago, I cleaned them out. Kept a couple for myself, and gave three or four to list members (at cost, of course). The salesperson told me that they wouldn't be getting any more in, claiming that Varta discontinued them. Henry's does have alkaline replacements, however; at least they did last time I looked... regards, frank David Brooks wrote: > Hum.The manager at Henrys Newmarket last > year ,when i went in looking for M42 lenses and > Spotty batteries,flat out told me screw > mounts/and batteries were non existent in the > GTA and no camera store would carry them as now > one wanted them. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: Pentax SP1000 battery
Hum.The manager at Henrys Newmarket last year ,when i went in looking for M42 lenses and Spotty batteries,flat out told me screw mounts/and batteries were non existent in the GTA and no camera store would carry them as now one wanted them.Quess were i dont shop now. Sun Camera Repair in Concord Ontario has replacement batteries but have run out of the sleeves. Dave Begin Original Message From: "David Chang-Sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:35:15 -0500 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Pentax SP1000 battery Frantisek, http://www.henrys.com Look under "film/batteries/bulbs" Then under "battery" (then "batteries" from the drop down menu) Second page.. last item. WeinCell MRB625 (px625) Non-Mercury 1.35 Volt battery for $9.99 CDN (about $6.00 US) Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frantisek Vlcek Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax SP1000 battery Hi, what's the proper battery for an M42 Asahi Pentax Sp1000? I picked one up in near mint cosmetic shape but with some health problems (working on them now, though), and want to try the meter. Also, if the original battery is a 1.35 mercury, will the 1.5 alkaline work well (considering that alkalines get from 1.65 to 1.25V over their life, but mercury batteries stay near 1.35 almost all their life)? Which battery "numbers" will work in it? It is about the half size of SR44 it seems. A wonderful camera, it made my photography simpler (as the meter isn't working), I put a portrait 1.8/80mm lens on it and meter handheld, and it's great... A nice complementation to the LX I use normally :) Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: RAM for Lombard - clarification required please - apology
Cotty wrote: > NOT AGAIN > > &%^&%!$!£%$^%!@!£$!$^!^!@£$!^ auto-complete email $@£$^^^$^$^$%^£$%^ You can turn auto-complete off in some programs :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff
Brendan,the force is in the new computer,help me. Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:46:09 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:?Starting to like this 6x6 stuff You keep away from me your contageous, between you and Aaron the temptation is just to great. --- David Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got another roll of B&W back from the Y- > M.Starting to like this format. > Hlp me > > Dave > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ontario Canada > http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj > > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: > http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Artspeak
Bob, The artspeak has intrigued me, especially since I am a Lynch fan. Can you give me some more info on Hughes as I am not familiar with him? Thanks, Geoff > Hi, > > since it's Friday I thought I'd send you all this example of Artspeak > from an exhibition e-blurb I was sent. > > Bon appetit! > > "In Hughes' photographs, as in David Lynch's films, the banal constantly > hovers on the dream's uncertain boundary, or perhaps conversely, the > unconscious has its own bright presence in the real world." > > [...] > > "Half empty hotels and tower blocks are captured in the numinous light of > early morning, their etiolated colours taking texture with them." > > [...] > > "Hughes is an artist of the diminishing present, of time closing in. And yet > here, in that world beyond boredom, we suspect he finds things to marvel at, > things that take on an unearthly clarity." > > --- > Regards, > Bob > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: CONGRATULATIONS, YOUR FREE CAMERA ARRIVED!!* (fwd)
You lucky dog you. Dave - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:20 PM Subject: CONGRATULATIONS, YOUR FREE CAMERA ARRIVED!!* (fwd) > I thought this was too good an offer to selfishly keep to myself. :) > Check out that "full-scale panoramic" mode! > > chris ;) > > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:48:01 EST > From: Lori Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CONGRATULATIONS, YOUR FREE CAMERA ARRIVED!!* > > Dear Chris, > > Congratulations! You've been chosen to receive the best-selling, Bell and > Howell(R) 35 mm Automatic Camera worth $50 FREE! > > This high-tech camera is loaded with expensive features: > > - Two terrific picture modes - standard 4 X 6, plus full-scale panoramic mode > - Sliding protective lens cover > - Built in hot-shoe for flash photography > - Latest Bell and Howell(R) technology > > To claim your FREE camera Chris, click the link below > > [snip] > > "How can I afford to give away the camera people have paid as much as $50 > for?" > > Simply put, Chris, I can't. At least not to everyone, but you were smart > enough to request free products from www.yourfreepresent.com, so you're > entitled! > > But here's the catch! It's almost summer so folks are ordering this camera > like crazy. > > In fact, just before I sent this email my inventory quantities showed only > 62 left. So Chris, I need you to click the link below so I can ship yours > before they're gone! Do it now, and I guarantee you'll be one of the very > lucky folks to receive this terrific camera - FREE! > > > Sincerely, > Lori Anderson > YourFreePresent.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question
Brendan,this is my next quest.To B(&W) or not to B(&W) Dave - Original Message - From: "Brendan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:50 PM Subject: Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question > Developing B&W is fairly easy, the hard part is > handling the finishe > negs and not scratching them or keeping dust off of > them.This is the > part I need to master still. > > --- Chris Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > > Hi Chris ... > > > > > > Keep it simple, good, and inexpensive - an El > > Nikkor 50/2.8 is a very > > > fine "starter" lens. They are generally quite good > > optically, and they > > > are common, which makes finding a good example > > relatively easy and > > > fairly inexpensive. It's also good enough to make > > larger prints. > > > > > > As for an enlarger, there are two ways to look at > > a first purchase. One > > > way is to buy something inexpensive and simple, to > > use while you're > > > learning, until you know what you want to do in > > the darkroom. At that > > > point you'll have a good idea of the features > > you'd want in an enlarger, > > > how big you'd like to print, and the formats that > > might be of interest. > > > > > > The other is to spend some money and buy an > > enlarger that you can grow > > > into. Beselers, Omegas, Saunders, some Dursts, > > are all common brands > > > with good reputations that offer good quality. > > > > > > So, first decide how you want to proceed, then > > look in those areas. > > > > I guess it depends on what the pockets can afford :) > > I am going to try to > > process some of my first b&w negs (Tmax 100) this > > weekend, I have to get a > > tank, reel, and chem. I have a thermometer, I think > > that is all i need. > > > > The lens lengths confused me, I saw a lot of 50mm so > > I assumed those were > > the "Standard" to start with. I am not sure how they > > relate to the > > printing process. > > > > I am going to wait another week or so before I get > > ready to buy an > > enlarger. > > > > Thanks for the help. > > > > - Chris > > > > > > -- > > Chris Murray /"\ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON > > CAMPAIGN > > http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST > > HTML MAIL > > Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > > To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > > Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > > http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > __ > File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)
Best start a new poll close to the next possible release time. --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: tom > Subject: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so > nothing new from > Pentax?) > > > > Assuming no new limited at PhotoExpo, what do you > guys want to > do with the pool? > > > > - scrap it > > - leave it as is until a new lens gets announced. > > - start over again in May in anticipation of a > summer > announcement. > > > > I'm told the 2 likely scenarios are mid to late > summer, or > Photokina. > > Scrap it. > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Strange MX on Ebay
Looks like someone canibalized two cameras to make this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1340242526 Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax digital SLR - Not now!
I've been thinking about this lately and I'm in no rush. Todays technology ( even with 6Mp ) isnt as good as 35mm film capture. It's better to buy a good 35mm film scanner if you want digital processing as the resolution is way higher ( isnt 4000dpi roughly equal to 24 Mp?). You can buy a great 35mm film scanner for roughly $1500, way less than any digital SLR would cost. I dont like the idea of having to deal with low capacity batteries, shutter lag, low resolution, limited dynamic range and overall complexity of the cameras. I could imagine keeping dust off the sensors when changing lenses will be a royal pain in the ass. Sure, instant results and very low operating costs are a plus, but I'm only marginally satisfied with the resolution of 35mm film, going downward in resolution now is not acceptable to me. I like the fact that I can grab a coupla spotmatics, a half-dozen rolls of film and shoot all day. No hassles with batteries running out and downloading flash cards, etc. Until they can design digital SLRs that MEET or EXCEED 35mm in terms of resolution and with high capacity on board memory, I'm gonna stick with film. Pentax and minolta are probably doing the right thing in terms of designing digital SLRs. They arent as good as 35mm film yet and cost way too much to produce compared to other digital technologies like film scanners. Sure for press photographers they fit the bill, but I'm not a press photographer. Patiently Waiting for now, JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE;How is Russian Glass
> I wish they made that 35 shift lens in k-mount. I'd sure sign up for JT> one You may want to check Kiev/USA. They list the 35 shift in screwmount but they also have a box saying Nikon and other mounts add $50. So the may be able to do a K mount on that or the other lenses they offer. Their web site is; http://www.kievusa.com The owner, Saul Kaminsky is a nice guy and the company is honest. I used to work in Greenwich (CT) and would send customers needing quick or minor camera repair to him. BUTCH "Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself" Hermann Hesse (Demian) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)
- Original Message - From: tom Subject: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?) > Assuming no new limited at PhotoExpo, what do you guys want to do with the pool? > > - scrap it > - leave it as is until a new lens gets announced. > - start over again in May in anticipation of a summer announcement. > > I'm told the 2 likely scenarios are mid to late summer, or Photokina. Scrap it. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SP1000 battery
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: Pentax SP1000 battery > Hi, Frantisek, > > The mercury cell is a px400, but they can be pretty hard to find, as > they've been illegal in many places for quite some time. I think Varta > might have been one of the last to make them, but they've now stopped. > Frantisek may have an easier time finding one where he is than we have in North America. I believe a #390 watch cell is identical to the px400, except for the lack of the plastic collar. The collar is important for otherwise the cell can short circuit on the compartment. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
To quote an old American baseball player, "Deja-vue all over again!" There were the same exact same posts here several years ago regarding the mythical MZ-1. Over the years I have come to the opinion that if Pentax's current products satisfy your needs, stay with them. If you need them to come out with something new, you will wind up in anticipation purgatory. --- Rob Brigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Me too, I just WANTED to believe it soo much that I almost convinced > myself. Almost, but not quite. Even an announcement would have been > nice... Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)
Assuming no new limited at PhotoExpo, what do you guys want to do with the pool? - scrap it - leave it as is until a new lens gets announced. - start over again in May in anticipation of a summer announcement. I'm told the 2 likely scenarios are mid to late summer, or Photokina. Other suggestions welcomed. tv On 23 Mar 2002 at 0:22, Rob Brigham wrote: > So can you tell us what it is now? (please...) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an > > open question. > > > > Pål > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Thomas Van Veen Photography 301-758-3085 www.bigdayphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SP1000 battery
Hi, Frantisek, The mercury cell is a px400, but they can be pretty hard to find, as they've been illegal in many places for quite some time. I think Varta might have been one of the last to make them, but they've now stopped. I've heard of some Spottie users who've used the alkaline replacements successfully. AFAIK, the only downside of alkaline is that they don't last as long. Maybe 6 to 12 months (?), as opposed to 10 years or more for mercury cells. They are wonderful cameras, aren't they? :-) regards, frank Frantisek Vlcek wrote: > Hi, >what's the proper battery for an M42 Asahi Pentax Sp1000? I picked >one up in near mint cosmetic shape but with some health problems >(working on them now, though), and want to try the meter. > >Also, if the original battery is a 1.35 mercury, will the 1.5 >alkaline work well (considering that alkalines get from 1.65 to >1.25V over their life, but mercury batteries stay near 1.35 almost >all their life)? Which battery "numbers" will work in it? It is >about the half size of SR44 it seems. > >A wonderful camera, it made my photography simpler (as the meter >isn't working), I put a portrait 1.8/80mm lens on it and meter >handheld, and it's great... A nice complementation to the LX I use >normally :) -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
Me too, I just WANTED to believe it soo much that I almost convinced myself. Almost, but not quite. Even an announcement would have been nice... I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only customer lost to Pentax. Many more will leave soon and probably many of those will never return. They HAVE to get it done this year - their market is diminishing with every passing month. > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I must admit that I was very skeptical. No, really. I just > got caught up > in all the hype. > > Let's put it this way: I have firmly decided that if nothing > happens at > Photokina this year, a few days later I will be placing an > order for a > Canon D60, grip, microdrive, and extra battery, which means > there will be > a lot of K mount glass going up for sale. There's only one > possible thing > that will stop me from doing that, and you know what it is. > At this time, > I am convinced that I wont be selling *anything*... > > A cheery good night from England where even Brighton is far > from sunny > right now! > > Cotradamus > > ___ > Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Check out the UK Macintosh ads > http://www.macads.co.uk > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
So can you tell us what it is now? (please...) > -Original Message- > From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an > open question. > > Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question
On 22 Mar 2002 at 15:52, Chris Murray wrote: > > I guess it depends on what the pockets can afford :) I am going to try to > process some of my first b&w negs (Tmax 100) this weekend, I have to get a > tank, reel, and chem. I have a thermometer, I think that is all i need. Scissors, neg sleeves, a bottle opener and a film extractor are useful. You'll need storage bottles and measuring cups. Maybe a changing bag too. Somewhere and some way to hang and dry the film. > > The lens lengths confused me, I saw a lot of 50mm so I assumed those were > the "Standard" to start with. I am not sure how they relate to the > printing process. 50mm is the standard for 35mm. The typical recommended 1st lens is a used Nikkor 50/2.8, and it's fine. Once you get anal you can shop around for a Schneider or Rodenstock. ;) tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax SP1000 battery
I've used the silver version at www.photobattery.com with good results. The generic model nuber is 400. JCO > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frantisek Vlcek > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Pentax SP1000 battery > > > Hi, >what's the proper battery for an M42 Asahi Pentax Sp1000? I picked >one up in near mint cosmetic shape but with some health problems >(working on them now, though), and want to try the meter. > >Also, if the original battery is a 1.35 mercury, will the 1.5 >alkaline work well (considering that alkalines get from 1.65 to >1.25V over their life, but mercury batteries stay near 1.35 almost >all their life)? Which battery "numbers" will work in it? It is >about the half size of SR44 it seems. > >A wonderful camera, it made my photography simpler (as the meter >isn't working), I put a portrait 1.8/80mm lens on it and meter >handheld, and it's great... A nice complementation to the LX I use >normally :) > > Good light, > Frantisek Vlcek > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: KX MOT
For those who don't know, MOT means Motor Drive (optional). This is the same drive available on the K2 MOT. Other than condition, two attributes can make a KX cost more: black body, and the MOT capability. Chrome (silver) KXs seem to sell for $90 to $130. Blaack KXs, $120 to $200. Since I became a KX fan a couple months back, I've scoured my links and found just two KX MOTs for sale. A chrome KX MOT is going for something like $379. A black KX MOT is going for $189! Go figure. I suspect that a certain number of the KXs for sale on EBay are MOTs but the owner isn't aware. (OR does MOT appear prominently on the body?) It would be nice if someone shared a secret for spotting hidden MOT specimens. In either case, $100 sounds like a great price if you'll actually use the motor drive option or think that you may one day resell the camera. But if you don't plan to use the motor drive--which is costly and scarce--I'd shop for a KX on the basis of its condition. Make sure the aperture window is vislble; it's prone to be misaligned. Also check the mirror lockup and timer. Anders Werholt wrote: Today, I saw a KX MOT body in a magazine advertisement. Used, but not ugly, chrome, price about 100 USD (motor drive not included). What would be a descent price for a body like this? How common are they compared to the usual KX? I already have a nice KX body, so I don't know whether to go for it or not... [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How is Russian glass?
Monday, I received a new MC Jupiter-9 2/85mm lens from Pavel Gubanov. Many of you know him as "ustas" on ebay. He quit listing this lens for awhile on ebay and I emailed him to see if he had any more. He sent me a new one for $45, including shipping. From what I could tell from the Russian manual, it was manufactured in 2001. I ran a test roll through it today and I am pleasantly surprised. How good can a $45 lens be anyway? I am probably more surprised that my wife sat still long enough without any makeup on for me to see how it works as a portrait lens. I shot five head-and-shoulder shots of my wife @ f:2-f:8. My wife and my two daughters picked the f:2 shot as the most flattering. It's noticably sharper at f:4. I shot a series of brick wall shots and there doesn't appear to be any light falloff at f:2.8. Again it sharpens nicely at f:4. A third series to check the bokeh impressed me as well...very nice and smooth. If my count is right, it has 16 blades and the roundest aperature I have ever seen. On the negative side, it uses stop down metering and is a preset lens. The focusing is certainly not as smooth as we have come to expect from our Takumars. It is going to take a little practice to get used to it, but it may just be worth the trouble. Judging from the results, this could be the best $45 I've spent in a long time. -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Hi Chris ... > > Keep it simple, good, and inexpensive - an El Nikkor 50/2.8 is a very > fine "starter" lens. They are generally quite good optically, and they > are common, which makes finding a good example relatively easy and > fairly inexpensive. It's also good enough to make larger prints. > > As for an enlarger, there are two ways to look at a first purchase. One > way is to buy something inexpensive and simple, to use while you're > learning, until you know what you want to do in the darkroom. At that > point you'll have a good idea of the features you'd want in an enlarger, > how big you'd like to print, and the formats that might be of interest. > > The other is to spend some money and buy an enlarger that you can grow > into. Beselers, Omegas, Saunders, some Dursts, are all common brands > with good reputations that offer good quality. > > So, first decide how you want to proceed, then look in those areas. I guess it depends on what the pockets can afford :) I am going to try to process some of my first b&w negs (Tmax 100) this weekend, I have to get a tank, reel, and chem. I have a thermometer, I think that is all i need. The lens lengths confused me, I saw a lot of 50mm so I assumed those were the "Standard" to start with. I am not sure how they relate to the printing process. I am going to wait another week or so before I get ready to buy an enlarger. Thanks for the help. - Chris -- Chris Murray /"\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS Fridays
For Sale, Once used Tamrac 678 "Rolling Photo Backpack" in almost as new condition (wheels are scuffed). Bought to transport 600mm FA lens and some photo gear. Pack measures approximately 24" high by 14 " wide by 12" deep. Will hold multiple 35mm & medium format cameras, large telephoto lenses, a tripod & a multitude of related equipment. Rolls well in airports and on paved surfaces and also is a comfortable backpack. Is foam padded and water proof with foam padded adjustable dividers to creat protective compartments to securely hold a variety of cameras, lenses & accessories. Fits in most overhead compartments on commercial jets. Decided to sell after one trip to the Alaska outback, where it quickly became apparent that this was not the way to transport this lens in the bush - took too much time to set up and break down camera body/lens for transport in backpack. Have since bought a Kinesis L630 long lens case/padded shoulder harness which allows me to carry lens with body attached for quicker setup in the field. Currently selling for $ 337.50 @ B&H where I purchased mine. Can view at http://www.tamrac.com./welcome.htm. Contact me off list @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. Ken Waller - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax SP1000 battery
Hi, what's the proper battery for an M42 Asahi Pentax Sp1000? I picked one up in near mint cosmetic shape but with some health problems (working on them now, though), and want to try the meter. Also, if the original battery is a 1.35 mercury, will the 1.5 alkaline work well (considering that alkalines get from 1.65 to 1.25V over their life, but mercury batteries stay near 1.35 almost all their life)? Which battery "numbers" will work in it? It is about the half size of SR44 it seems. A wonderful camera, it made my photography simpler (as the meter isn't working), I put a portrait 1.8/80mm lens on it and meter handheld, and it's great... A nice complementation to the LX I use normally :) Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Quick, embarassing Q!
absolutely... brain's feeling better now! - Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Quick, embarassing Q! > On 22 Mar 2002 at 17:50, Oliver Raymond wrote: > > > I've got to print out a 35mm neg to 5x7 on a 4x5 enlarger... what lens? i > > only remember 6x7 (80mm \ 135mm) \ 4x5 (135mm \ 150mm) now! i thought 50mm, but > > it's coming up tiny... > > 50mm is correct. The max coverage of the enlarger head doesn't matter, just focal length and column height (and bellows extension with longer lenses). > > Move the head further up? > > Are you sure you have the 50 and not the 150? > > tv > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Artspeak
Hi, Doug, Right you are. Most politicians are, after all, lawyers! No wonder we're in the mess we're in. -frank Doug Franklin wrote: > Well, around here, politician is an almost proper subset of lawyer. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question
Hi Chris ... Keep it simple, good, and inexpensive - an El Nikkor 50/2.8 is a very fine "starter" lens. They are generally quite good optically, and they are common, which makes finding a good example relatively easy and fairly inexpensive. It's also good enough to make larger prints. As for an enlarger, there are two ways to look at a first purchase. One way is to buy something inexpensive and simple, to use while you're learning, until you know what you want to do in the darkroom. At that point you'll have a good idea of the features you'd want in an enlarger, how big you'd like to print, and the formats that might be of interest. The other is to spend some money and buy an enlarger that you can grow into. Beselers, Omegas, Saunders, some Dursts, are all common brands with good reputations that offer good quality. So, first decide how you want to proceed, then look in those areas. From: "Chris Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi All - > > Thanks for the advice on developing my own film. I am going to head down > to the pro shop that I use and pick up a two reel tank, and some > chemicals. I am going to start by doing my negs and then move onto prints. > > I've been looking for an enlarger on ebay, and there are different lenses > on the different models, as well as lenses being sold. I'm not sure what I > should look for in an enlarger. I would like to be able to print at > 5x7-8x10 to start. -shel belinkoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Artspeak
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:39:00 -0500, frank theriault wrote: > > Rivals politician-speak for self-important emptiness. > C'mon nothing beats lawyer-speak, for self-important emptiness! Well, around here, politician is an almost proper subset of lawyer. > Instead of writing "last > Friday", he wrote "Friday 'ultimo'". That's just old fashioned "pompous assedness". > And, don't get me started on Military-speak (my favourite!). I think that's mostly so they can say they blew people into tiny pieces without making the general public realize too closely what they've said. ;^) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Quick, embarassing Q!
On 22 Mar 2002 at 17:50, Oliver Raymond wrote: > I've got to print out a 35mm neg to 5x7 on a 4x5 enlarger... what lens? i > only remember 6x7 (80mm \ 135mm) \ 4x5 (135mm \ 150mm) now! i thought 50mm, but > it's coming up tiny... 50mm is correct. The max coverage of the enlarger head doesn't matter, just focal length and column height (and bellows extension with longer lenses). Move the head further up? Are you sure you have the 50 and not the 150? tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How is Russian glass?
OK, when I get to the shop again, I will have a close look at it what mount it is. Will keep you informed, Frantisek Friday, March 22, 2002, 6:59:19 PM, vze2vg3x wrote: vvn> H. There are excellent photos of the Arsat 35 tilt/shift in its various positions at http://www.kievcamera.com/cameraphp?ID=17 but according to that page "The 35mm PCS with shift and tilt is vvn> available in Nikon lens mount, Leica R7 lens mount, and Minolta lens mount" and "A similar lens (not shown) that offers shift only movements is available in Nikon, Canon, and M42 (Pentax thread vvn> mount) lens mounts." vvn> Even its pricey competitor Kiev USA at http://www.kievusa.com/kievpricelist.html sells the MIR 35mm f/2.8 shift (persepective control) lens only in Nikon and "Kiev 9" mount (M42?). JT>> I wish they made that 35 shift lens in k-mount. vvn> Frantisek Vlcek replies: vvn> But they _make_ it in K mount! AFAIK. I have seen several for sale in vvn> the used section of a big photo shop here. Around 200$. It's after all vvn> a manual (pre-set?) diaphragm lens, so no problems for them to vvn> substitute the mounts. vvn> [EMAIL PROTECTED] vvn> vvn> mail2web - Check your email from the web at vvn> http://mail2web.com/ . vvn> - vvn> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, vvn> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to vvn> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question.
For a 35mm enlarger... I'm told the 75mm f/4.5 Minolta Rokkor is decent. Also, the Nikor 105mm f-5.6 is considered pretty good. These are fairly expensive as enlarger lenses go, so they better be good. The last "enlarging" lens that I used was a screw mount Pentax 100mm f/4 macro lens with a converter to Leica mount. (These converters are nearly impossible to find.) Worked pretty damn good, but this would be an expensive way to go. Don't try this with any other lens than a macro lens. You'll be disappointed. Regards, Bob... "Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity, and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter. The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty, we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.' It is a very serious consideration that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event." - Samuel Adams, 1771 From: "Chris Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi All - > > Thanks for the advice on developing my own film. I am going to head down > to the pro shop that I use and pick up a two reel tank, and some > chemicals. I am going to start by doing my negs and then move onto prints. > > I've been looking for an enlarger on ebay, and there are different lenses > on the different models, as well as lenses being sold. I'm not sure what I > should look for in an enlarger. I would like to be able to print at > 5x7-8x10 to start. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Remote cord for LX
Sold. Thanks William Robb - Original Message - From: William Robb Subject: FS: Remote cord for LX > Hi; I seem to have aquired, by accident, a second remote cord > for the LX winder. It may also fot the LX motor, but I can't > confirm that right now. This is a fairly longish cord, I suspect > at least 10 feet. > I paid 25 US dollars for it from another list member, and will > sell it for the same, shipping included. It is in very nice > condition, but does not have the original box or packaging > materials. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: UK PDMLers
Hi, everyone's a critic! I like Tate Modern, although if you're really cool these days it's de rigeuer to say you prefer Tate Britain. Last time I went to Tate Modern I was with a friend and her 6-year-old daughter. I asked the little girl what she thought of one of the exhibits. She replied "It looks like poo". And it does. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, March 22, 2002, 10:39:22 PM, you wrote: >>Your quite right there. Unfortunately, the fish and chips were about the >>only thing in the entire museum with any taste at all. > My God! It's a good thing my SO isn't on this list - she'd send a bolt of > lightning through the wires to your keyboard! > Cots > (though I'm with you) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Artspeak
On 22 Mar 2002 at 17:43, Doug Franklin wrote: > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:52:00 +, Bob Walkden wrote: > > > [...] example of Artspeak from an exhibition e-blurb I was sent. [...] > > Rivals politician-speak for self-important emptiness. > What did Zappa say? "Writing about art is like dancing about architecture." Or something to that effect... tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
>Oooops. Seems like the Pentax digital slr rumor was false after all. >Strange that pentax don't show any new products at this show as it is >quite important. >Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an open question. I must admit that I was very skeptical. No, really. I just got caught up in all the hype. Let's put it this way: I have firmly decided that if nothing happens at Photokina this year, a few days later I will be placing an order for a Canon D60, grip, microdrive, and extra battery, which means there will be a lot of K mount glass going up for sale. There's only one possible thing that will stop me from doing that, and you know what it is. At this time, I am convinced that I wont be selling *anything*... A cheery good night from England where even Brighton is far from sunny right now! Cotradamus ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
Ryan wrote: > So when is the next important show? Photokina in September. Pentax is prone to announce major releases at the Photokina show. However, they are also known to release products at anytime - no show required. Then theres Photography day the first of june when Pentax release the "Photo annual" book - this event may also be a launching pad for products. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Artspeak
C'mon nothing beats lawyer-speak, for self-important emptiness! I used to know a lawyer who, in his correspondence, refused to say "photocopy", but rather, called them "electro-photo-reproductions". Instead of writing "last Friday", he wrote "Friday 'ultimo'". I could go on... Sheesh! And, don't get me started on Military-speak (my favourite!). "res ipsa locquitor" ;-) -frank Doug Franklin wrote: > Rivals politician-speak for self-important emptiness. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Quick, embarassing Q!
I've got to print out a 35mm neg to 5x7 on a 4x5 enlarger... what lens? i only remember 6x7 (80mm \ 135mm) \ 4x5 (135mm \ 150mm) now! i thought 50mm, but it's coming up tiny... brain fried from putting together processor! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: pancake question
Hi, > Do you think they are really buying the pancake because it is a collectable? > It isn't, to my knowledge, a rarity. I think they were produced in pretty > great quantity. I think the lens has gained an undeserved reputation of > being an extremely sharp lens, collectible and rare are not the same thing. Collectors don't operate according to any logic discernible to non-collectors. A good example of this, which I've been able to take advantage of, is the Leica M4-2. 16,100 of these were made, compared with 22,444 of its successor the M4-P. Yet the M4-2 sells for significantly less than the M4-P because it has a bad name with collectors. This bad name is entirely undeserved; it's simply an irrational collector thing, like the pancake lens. There's more about it here: http://www.nemeng.com/leica/016b.shtml I got mine, which is in very good condition, for significantly less than than I could have got any other Leica M, and as far as I can tell it's no worse (or better) than any others. It's certainly no worse than my M3, which cost the same and is in noticeably worse condition cosmetically. The pancake lens is rather like this. I paid about US $100- for mine. It's in perfect condition. Optically it's a good enough lens for most purposes, but it's certainly not 'extremely sharp'. The focal length is very nice indeed, and the thin focusing grip is not a problem for me. But I can't understand why people get into a frenzy over them; it's just one of those inexplicably irrational things, like beanie dolls, hula hoops and clackers. --- Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Artspeak
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:52:00 +, Bob Walkden wrote: > [...] example of Artspeak from an exhibition e-blurb I was sent. [...] Rivals politician-speak for self-important emptiness. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FS Friday
>Traitor he says, traitor? If I pay shipping outside of the USA it wont be >worth me selling it! If Sir Walter Raleigh had said that way back when, well - we'd all be in right stink, eh! (papers arrived yet Fawlty?) *hic* ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: pancake question
Hi, Len, Interesting. When I borrowed Wendy's MX, I didn't expect to find the 40mm pancake on it. Having read opinions on this list similar to yours, Len, I really didn't expect much from it in terms of sharpness. Maybe it was my low expectation that caused me to be pleasantly surprised when I got back my first roll, and found the prints to be quite sharp. But maybe I have low standards... ;-) In any event, I still want one. Not as a collectable, obviously, but as a user. And, I have to admit, part of the allure for me is its size. I think it would be wasted on any camera but the MX or one of the other M series bodies (size-wise), as they're so physically compatible. Thanks to all who replied regarding whether the price of the one that I'm looking at is reasonable - as I suspected, it seems to be. regards, frank "Paris, Leonard" wrote: > Do you think they are really buying the pancake because it is a collectable? > It isn't, to my knowledge, a rarity. I think they were produced in pretty > great quantity. I think the lens has gained an undeserved reputation of > being an extremely sharp lens, because of all of the BS written about it in > ebay item descriptions. The sheer numbers of them that pass through ebay > should make folks wonder exactly how good they could actually be. If it was > a really great lens, and a collectable, there wouldn't be so many of them > available. > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
>*Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts. Thanks Tom - that was the best laugh I've had all week. Made my day! Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: UK PDMLers
>Your quite right there. Unfortunately, the fish and chips were about the >only thing in the entire museum with any taste at all. My God! It's a good thing my SO isn't on this list - she'd send a bolt of lightning through the wires to your keyboard! Cots (though I'm with you) ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Another 67 Arrival. (I'll pretend)
Friday, March 22, 2002, 1:20:18 PM, Jeff wrote: J> I just got inoculated for the LX virus. J> What a beauty, and with a heavy lens (SP70-210) I'll pretend it's a 6x7. J> Jeff Inoculated? You mean you have got at least three bodies, one for low iso film, one for 1600 film, the third just backup ;-)) ? Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
So when is the next important show? - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax? > Oooops. Seems like the Pentax digital slr rumor was false after all. Strange that pentax don't show any new products at this show as it is quite important. > Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an open question. > > Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re[4]: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 4:19 PM > To: J. C. O'Connell > Subject: Re[4]: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help! > > > JCO, > > Thanks for the tip. I already have the 55/4 and got the later > version. In retrospect, I may have been just as happy with the > 55/3.5. Live and learn. I am still pondering the 300 issue. Pretty > much boils down to close focusing. It would be great to try them side > by side to make sure. If I do go with the older one (less expensive), > are there different versions that I should be aware of? > > > Bruce Dayton > There were two versions of the non-EDIF 300 F4. As far as I can tell they are identical optics, different cosmetics. FWIW, I got a mint older one (SMCT) for 600.00 on ebay and its a dandy. For the extreme difference in cost of the EDIF version, I dont think its worth it for the close focussing especially when there are easy workarounds if/ when those situations come up. BUT if your main interest and work will be a lot of portriats, it MIGHT be worth it. Dont forget you can buy a closeup lens that mounts on the front if you dont want to dismount the lens to insert a tube. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Several Pentax cameras and other items
These are some Pentax cameras I have for sale, because nowadays they see very little or no use, and I want to sell them to fund other Pentax equipment purchases. This is the first lot: Pentax SFX AF SLR body (like new) + Pentax soft case for the SFX + SMC Pentax-F 35-70 mm. 3.5-4.5 (one of the best standard zooms Pentax has made) + 2 SFX battery grips, one for 2CR5 lithium battery and other for 4 AA batteries (everything is mint, except that one of the plastic tabs of the soft case is missing, but it is perfectly functional) Instruction manual (in Spanish) Everything for 180 euro. Second lot: Pentax MZ-5 AF SLR body + SMC Pentax-F 35-80 mm. 4-5.6 (a fine standard zoom lens) + Fg battery pack (the body and battery pack are like new, the lens is EX+ cosmetically; optically and mechanically it's perfect) Instruction manual for the camera in Spanish, and in English for the battery pack. Everything for 280 euro. Shipping expenses will be paid by the buyer. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Enlarger (was Re: Darkroom: Enlarger Question.)
On 22 Mar 2002 at 13:08, Chris Murray wrote: > > I've been looking for an enlarger on ebay, and there are different lenses > on the different models, as well as lenses being sold. I'm not sure what I > should look for in an enlarger. I would like to be able to print at > 5x7-8x10 to start. Since it's for-sale-fridayI have a good starter (and better) enlarger if you're interested. It's a Saunders D6700, which has built in dichroic filtration, in excellent condition. It'll do 11x14 from 35mm, and is a very nice unit. B+H sells them new for about $450...it's yours (or any other PDMLer) for $300 + $25 shipping inside the US. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
KX MOT
Hi all Today, I saw a KX MOT body in a magazine advertisement. Used, but not ugly, chrome, price about 100 USD (motor drive not included). What would be a descent price for a body like this? How common are they compared to the usual KX? I already have a nice KX body, so I don't know whether to go for it or not... Regards Anders Werholt - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[4]: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!
JCO, Thanks for the tip. I already have the 55/4 and got the later version. In retrospect, I may have been just as happy with the 55/3.5. Live and learn. I am still pondering the 300 issue. Pretty much boils down to close focusing. It would be great to try them side by side to make sure. If I do go with the older one (less expensive), are there different versions that I should be aware of? Bruce Dayton Friday, March 22, 2002, 1:09:46 PM, you wrote: >> Bolo, >> >> The Leaf shutter behavior has been answered better than I can as I do >> not have one. >> >> As for the focal length choices - in 35mm I like about the same focal >> lengths. For me, I will be doing many people shots along with scenics >> so I was concerned that I didn't want to go too wide (starts to make >> edge people look a little fat) and I have read that the 55/4 is one >> super lens. I suspect that in the future I will end up with the 45 >> and fisheye as I love wide angle lenses. I have also found that 45mm >> is more comfortable for me than 50mm. The 90/2.8 is better for my >> view and it focuses closer than the 105 - 2.1ft vs. 3.3 and it is 3 oz >> lighter. One of my overall favorite focal lengths is 85mm - portrait. >> So the 165/2.8 was an easy choice. I am now looking at the long (for >> me) end to get a 300/4 >> >> >> Bruce Dayton JCOC> Couldnt figure out if you have actually bought the 55/4 or not JCOC> but dont dismiss the 55/3.5. I did a shootout between it and the JCOC> (new) 45 F4, and its identical performance to the 45. The only JCOC> downside is the 55/3.5 takes a 100mm filter. I picked up a dead mint JCOC> 55/3.5 off ebay for only 400.00, the 55/4 usually goes for 600.00 JCOC> used. Also beware of the first 55/4, its supposedly not as good JCOC> as the second 55/4. JCOC> JCO JCOC> - JCOC> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, JCOC> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to JCOC> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: pancake question
Do you think they are really buying the pancake because it is a collectable? It isn't, to my knowledge, a rarity. I think they were produced in pretty great quantity. I think the lens has gained an undeserved reputation of being an extremely sharp lens, because of all of the BS written about it in ebay item descriptions. The sheer numbers of them that pass through ebay should make folks wonder exactly how good they could actually be. If it was a really great lens, and a collectable, there wouldn't be so many of them available. Len --- -Original Message- From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: pancake question That's because the 43 Limited is available brand new and hence is not "collectable". Those who want to pay high prices for their lenses just order their 43 Limited from their nearest camera shop. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS: Remote cord for LX
I'll take it if it is still available. On Friday 22 March 2002 01:17 pm, you wrote: > Hi; I seem to have aquired, by accident, a second remote cord > for the LX winder. It may also fot the LX motor, but I can't > confirm that right now. This is a fairly longish cord, I suspect > at least 10 feet. > I paid 25 US dollars for it from another list member, and will > sell it for the same, shipping included. It is in very nice > condition, but does not have the original box or packaging > materials. > Please reply offlist. > Thanks > William Robb -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FS Friday
Traitor he says, traitor? If I pay shipping outside of the USA it wont be worth me selling it! Regards, /\/\ick... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:55 PM To: Pentax List Subject: FS Friday >I'll do free shipping to North American PDML'ers. > >Regards, >/\/\ick... Traitor! A UK PDMLer ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
>That lens lineup in the cabinet looks pretty nice though!! Who's looking at the lenses! ;-) ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS Friday
>I'll do free shipping to North American PDML'ers. > >Regards, >/\/\ick... Traitor! A UK PDMLer ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My K 50 1.2 is OK!!! (was fungus or dust?)
On 22 Mar 2002 at 15:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I became so paranoid that I decided to visit local official service. > They looked at the lens and said it was just dust, and that's not worth > open such a jewell (they praised the lens a lot). > I then went to see some used stores, and I asked their opinion two. Both of them > told me the lens is ok, and they praised it A LOT. In fact, I started a chat > with one of them, and he resulted a connoisseur of Pentax. He told me he owns > the A 135 1.8 and praised it to god status, he also told marvels about Pentax > 645 (He told me this is THE 645, "don't tell me nothing about Mamiya, please!!") > and the 67 too: "I'm a Hasselblad user, but each time I pick up a 67 I 've a > very pleasing feeling. Great optics". > We have a good chat and I leaved the store very pleased knowing my loved K 50 > 1.2 is just fine. Regards Ok, now I *really* want to come to Argentina. Obviously a country full of people with good taste and sense. BTW, that's a cute shot of your niece on the PUG. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: RAM for Lombard - clarification required please - apology
On 22 Mar 2002 at 18:22, Cotty wrote: > NOT AGAIN > > &%^&%!$!£%$^%!@!£$!$^!^!@£$!^ auto-complete email $@£$^^^$^$^$%^£$%^ > > Many apologies, and no wise cracks! Yes, again, and you can't keep us from cracking-wise, Mr. Computer Expert! tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
HAR! You don't know my wife! Christian On Friday 22 March 2002 13:23, Malcolm Smith wrote: > LOL! I can't (even for one minute) see her allowing you to go out taking > photos wearing that!! > > Malcolm > > > The wife's birthday was today. If only I'd known that Pentax had such a > > great gift idea > > > > Christian > > > > On Friday 22 March 2002 12:50, Tom wrote: > > > > http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/ > > > > > > *Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts. > > > > > > tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
LOL! I can't (even for one minute) see her allowing you to go out taking photos wearing that!! Malcolm > The wife's birthday was today. If only I'd known that Pentax had such a > great gift idea > > Christian > > On Friday 22 March 2002 12:50, Tom wrote: > > > > http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/ > > > > *Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts. > > > > tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
My K 50 1.2 is OK!!! (was fungus or dust?)
I became so paranoid that I decided to visit local official service. They looked at the lens and said it was just dust, and that's not worth open such a jewell (they praised the lens a lot). I then went to see some used stores, and I asked their opinion two. Both of them told me the lens is ok, and they praised it A LOT. In fact, I started a chat with one of them, and he resulted a connoisseur of Pentax. He told me he owns the A 135 1.8 and praised it to god status, he also told marvels about Pentax 645 (He told me this is THE 645, "don't tell me nothing about Mamiya, please!!") and the 67 too: "I'm a Hasselblad user, but each time I pick up a 67 I 've a very pleasing feeling. Great optics". We have a good chat and I leaved the store very pleased knowing my loved K 50 1.2 is just fine. Regards AG - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: RAM for Lombard - clarification required please - apology
NOT AGAIN &%^&%!$!£%$^%!@!£$!$^!^!@£$!^ auto-complete email $@£$^^^$^$^$%^£$%^ Many apologies, and no wise cracks! Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
Tom wrote: >Jeff Tsai wrote: > >> I've put up some temporary pics from the Pentax booth for your perusal: >> >> http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/ > >*Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts. Amazing what you can do when you free up that R&D budget that had been directed to the MZ-D. ;-P -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: UK PDMLers
> >The best fish and chips in Britain are from Tate Modern ... > > Your quite right there. Unfortunately, the fish and chips were about the > only thing in the entire museum with any taste at all. > -- > Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com > Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 Go further north and enjoy Glasgow; good museums, galleries, proper fish and chips (ask for a cod supper) and folk will smile and be genuinely pleased to see you. If you have the time, visit the Highlands - and take lots of film. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How is Russian glass?
H. There are excellent photos of the Arsat 35 tilt/shift in its various positions at http://www.kievcamera.com/cameraphp?ID=17 but according to that page "The 35mm PCS with shift and tilt is available in Nikon lens mount, Leica R7 lens mount, and Minolta lens mount" and "A similar lens (not shown) that offers shift only movements is available in Nikon, Canon, and M42 (Pentax thread mount) lens mounts." Even its pricey competitor Kiev USA at http://www.kievusa.com/kievpricelist.html sells the MIR 35mm f/2.8 shift (persepective control) lens only in Nikon and "Kiev 9" mount (M42?). JT> I wish they made that 35 shift lens in k-mount. Frantisek Vlcek replies: But they _make_ it in K mount! AFAIK. I have seen several for sale in the used section of a big photo shop here. Around 200$. It's after all a manual (pre-set?) diaphragm lens, so no problems for them to substitute the mounts. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
The wife's birthday was today. If only I'd known that Pentax had such a great gift idea Christian On Friday 22 March 2002 12:50, Tom wrote: > > http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/ > > *Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts. > > tv > - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: New Epson scanners ?
I was using the included drivers at first but now I'm running XP I went and got the Silver fast drivers but I may just yet and get vuescan since it is compatible with Paint shop Pro. --- Antti-Pekka Virjonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:42 21.3.2002 -0500, Brendan wrote: > >Actually I need to retact what I said about the > Epson > >1680 before. I just got the new drivers for XP and > the > >scan quality has improved greatly. This was the > first > >test with the new drivers and the out of focus > >problems are gone, this scan was only reduce in > size, > >no unsharp mask or colour correction nothing. > > > >http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/flowers2/por.jpg > > > >a simple driver update. > > Great news! > > I have gotten good reports about the 1680 and was a > bit > puzzled why you did not get the same results. Do you > use > the Epson's own Twain or the fantastic Silverfast 5 > ? > This is also the first report of 1680 with XP. I > will > be using Win2K... > > I did order my 1680 Pro yesterday, so I am even more > happy > now ;-) > > I'll be scanning mostly 6x9cm and 4x5" slides and > those > occasional 35mm... > > Antti-Pekka > > --- > * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * > GSM: +358 400 789753 * > * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * > Fax: +358 2 413 * > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ File your taxes online! http://taxes.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
On 23 Mar 2002 at 1:24, Jeff Tsai wrote: > I've put up some temporary pics from the Pentax booth for your perusal: > > http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/ > *Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: P67, lenses and balance
Being the Taoist that I am balance is very important. That's the one thing I noticed about the MZ-5N. I disliked the fact that when I put an old screw mount onto that body (a 135mm 2.5), it felt, well, weird. Off balance, like it was too top heavy. Sure it was fine with the standard 28-80 3.5-5.6 silver FA lens but not with the "old skool" stylings of a classic 80-200 M lens. The K1000 (or the old SL for that matter) seemed more appropriate. Even when the newer 28-80 FA lens was mounted onto the K1000, it still felt good... because the main weight of the camera was firmly held at it's base (i.e. the body). It felt even better once the 135mm was put onto it. So yes, I have noted the effect that balance has and yes, you are the only one really "excited" about it... now go on and get out of that jello tree. Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Clifford The Big Red Dog [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Have any 35mm or 645 owners noticed the same with certain body/lens combinations? 3) Am I the only one who is actually excited about this? -Aaron mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
