Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter

1999-01-18 Thread lance davis

A British 'comedian' Edward Sidebottom (or something like that) release
"the worlds longest comedy CD" its actually 90 minutes of comedy - there
are separate bits in the left channel and right channel so you hear one
routine
with the balance all the way to the left and a different one with the
balance all
the way to the right. Cool, eh?

That is techno-riffic. It is also kind of ironic, given a conversation I
just had with my department head here at Alabama. He teaches a
correspondence course on The Beatles, which, of course, begat a two-hour
conversation. At some point I told him to remind his students that the
Beatles put about 40 songs on their albums. When he looked at me kind of
funny, I said that if you pan the records to the left what you hear is quite
often different from what's going on to the right (aside from the virtually
unavoidable drum and guitar bleed). "Drive My Car," for instance, has Ringo,
Paul's funky bass, and John's stun-guitar to the left--all rhythm
section--while a lead guitar (George?) and a lead piano (Paul?) riff
alongside a cowbell. The vocals (John and Paul) are then double-tracked, but
the vocals on the left are lower and slightly behind, creating a wonderful
echo effect. Martin's experimentation with I-believe-nascent stereophonic
sound, created a "song" for each ear, which, when combined, created the
"master song." Man, I never get tired of talking about those guys. Even
Clarence, the fifth Beatle.

Lance . . .



The Blue Chip Radio Report 1/18/99

1999-01-18 Thread Jeff Wall

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   THE BLUE CHIP RADIO REPORT
  News, Charts, Show Prep, Sales Info

   January 18, 1999
   Bill Miller
   Editor  Publisher


 The Blue Chip Radio Report is a free weekly newsletter for people in the
radio and music industries.To add your name to our e-mailing list, or to
remove your  name, send your request to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks!


 The Blue Chip Song of the Week:   none.


 The Judds have sold nearly all the $ 299 seats for their New Year's Eve
reunion concert.  Members of their fan club picked up most of the ducats for
the Phoenix AZ concert before they hit the open market.   
 Officially, The Judds have said they would consider doing more if the
demand is there.   Since Wynonna hasn't caught on with the rock crowd and her
country career is struggling, consider the demand "there".  
 Besides, mom-and-daughter have signed a 2-year deal with K-Mart to
replace Penny Marshall and Rosie O'Donnell as their spokespeople.  The deal
includes in-store appearances. 
 All the rest is spinnery.


 "Outlaw Justice" is scheduled to be the CBS movie of the week on Sunday
(January 24th).  Kris Kristofferson, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings and
Travis
Tritt star in the film.  Travis plays the sheriff who works with the
characters of Willie and Kris.  The trio is out to even the score for the
death of Waylon's gunslinging character.


 Sara Evans wants to sell her digs and move up to a bigger crib now that
she's climbing the charts.  Her farm house and 5 acres in Springfield TN
(just
outside Nashville) are on the market for $ 117,000.


 New artist Chad Brock is from the horse country of Ocala FL, just
outside
Gainesville.  Being so close to the University of Florida, it's only natural
that he's a big Gator fan.  In fact, he has the university's Gator logo
tattooed on his leg.


 Trisha Yearwood is the newest member of The Grand Ole Opry.


 Wade Hayes is planning to tie the knot.  You can see his fiancee, Danni
Boatwright, in Wade's new video "Tore Up From The Floor Up".
 Does this mean he had to move the motorcycle out of the bedroom?


 Nan Sumrall, Gary Chapman's sidekick on the TNN's Prime Time Country, is
also  engaged.   Nan's beloved is Charlie Kelley, a member of the now extinct
group, The Buffalo Club.


 Haven't seen enough of Shania Twain?  Look for her on the cover of the
February edition of Cosmopolitan magazine.


 Also in the magazine rack:  The February issue of "Life" featuring Alan
Jackson and wife Denise.


 Welcome to our new subscribers, including Nancy Johnson with WMLB in
suburban Atlanta,   Pete Spaan PD and DJ for Country Crossroads on Radio
Deurne in The Netherlands ( http://www.radiolink.net/countrycrossroads ),
Logan Key with WLAY/fm in Muscle Shoals AL, the folks at Major Bob Music in
Nashville, Mary Fleenor OM at the Jacor stations of Dayton OH
(WONE/WLQT/WBTT/WBKI/WMMX/WTUE/WXEG/WIZE), and Hawkeye Louis and Terry Dorsey
from the morning show at KSCS 96.3 in Dallas/Ft. Worth TX.


 More than 900 pieces of Minnie Pearl memorabilia were sold at auction in
Nashville on Saturday.  If you had wanted one of her straw hats with the
price
tag attached, you would have had to match a $ 350 bid.


 Fan Fair is set for June 14-19 at the Tennessee State Fairgrounds in
Nashville.  Tickets are $ 90 for all six days.  For the first time in many
years, Fan Fair wasn't a sell-out last year.


 Hal Ketchum will host a new radio show for Public Radio International.
Hal will interview his favorite singer/songwriters on "Troubadours".  Sounds
like my kind of gig.


 After a nearly 10-year absence, Alan LeBoeuf has re-joined Baillie  The
Boys.  That brings the group back to its original lineup.


 Reba McEntire is currently on tour in Europe.


 Hank Williams, Jr., will team up with Southern rockers Lynyrd Skynyrd
for
50 concert dates this year.


 The Kinley's "Somebody's Out There Watching" is from the soundtrack for
Touched By An Angel.


 As reported earlier in BCRR, LeAnn Rimes would still like to release
four
albums this year:  a pop album, a hard-core country album, a gospel album and
a Christmas album.


 The Oak Ridge boys have signed a recording contract with Intersound, a
division of Platinum 

the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread Jeff Wall

At 11:17 PM 1/17/99 -0600, you wrote:
 Man, I never get tired of talking about those guys. Even
Clarence, the fifth Beatle.

Lance . . .

Clarence White was a Beatle? I knew he was a Byrd, does that mean he moved
up on the food chain?

I knew Clarence was influential, but a Beatle! Wow!

In all seriousness, I can proove LESS than six degrees seperation betewwen
the Beatles and Clarence White

1. Clarence and Don Rich were buds, They hung out and influenced each other.

1a, In case you haven't read your twang bible, Don Rich was THE guitar
player for Buck Owens adn one of the driving creative forces behind the
Buck sound.

2. The Beatles had an arrangement with Capital where they would be sent
Buck Owens records hot off the press.

Jeff Wall   
 http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine
727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764



Re: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread Mike Woods



On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Jeff Wall wrote:

 At 11:17 PM 1/17/99 -0600, you wrote:

 Clarence, the fifth Beatle.

I am aware of four gentlemen who can claim, with varying degrees of
justification, the title of "The Fifth Beatle."

- The late Stu Sutcliffe who was the bassist in their Hamburg days.  There
actually were five Beatles at that time.

- Pete Best, the original drummer (Ringo was a big improvement).

- George Martin, their producer.  George had a lot to do with shaping the
sound of their recordings, and played on a number of their tracks.

- Murray "the K" Kaufmann, New York DJ who awarded himself the title.

How Clarence White, admirable guitarist that he is, qualifies for this is
beyond me.

-- Mike Woods




Re: The Blue Chip Radio Report 1/18/99

1999-01-18 Thread Bill Silvers

Hey boy, once you rolled through the high-fat content of the Blue Chip
Report to darn near the end, there's three hits in a row from three P2ers.
Great words guys.

b.s.


"The truth ain't always what we need, sometimes we need to hear a beautiful
lie." -Bill Lloyd




Luann Kowalek

1999-01-18 Thread Richard Flohil

Carl Abraham Zimring sent us his playlist the other day..,

Third up was Luann Kowalek, singing Friends.

Hardly twang, folk, but a VERY interesting singer-songwriter out of
Edmonton, and one well worth unearthing. I've heard her year after year at
the Edmonton F*** Festival, and she has gotten better and better and
better.  (Worse, I have t confess that last year, outro-ing her on
mainstage as a fill-in emcee, I egregiously mispronounced her name.)

So where's Carl's deliciously-named Fear  Whiskey radio show out of,
anyway?  And how did he discover this record?

Cheers,

Richard




Mac (was Re: mp3)

1999-01-18 Thread Tommy W. Nordeng

At 21:48 +0100 on 1/12/99, George L. Figgs wrote:


 One thing that really makes a big difference in MP3 playback quality, in
 addition to 44khz/128kb encoding is the type of computer you are playing
 them on. I had a Mac with a 75Mhz 603 processor with only 22Khz sound
 output. needless to say, MP3's played back on that machine sounded
 terrible. now I bought a G3 and they do sound as good as cd's. Winamp or
 MacAmp seem to do a pretty go job playing MP3's. I use Sound Edit 16 for
 encoding.

Based on the mp3 thread it seems like there are quite a few macers on the
list. I don't know why that surprised me. Afterall there are several
reasons why macers should be abundant here:
1) People on this list obviously have good taste and a sense of quality
2) Mac (Apple) is surperior over Intel on sound and image
3) Mac is alternative, Intel is mainstream.

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Re: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread Geffry King

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Mike Woods wrote:

 How Clarence White, admirable guitarist that he is, qualifies for this is
 beyond me.
 
 -- Mike Woods

The fifth Beatle was Don Rich.
If not for him, the Bealtes' sound as we know it today would not exist.

This I believe.

np: Mason Williams, "The Mason Williams Phonograph Record"
-- 
Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/
"We were having trouble getting a good clean bass sound. So instead 
 of going with a standard 2/4 beat, I said, `Let's try a 4/4 bass 
 and a shuffle rhythm,' and it cut. It cut clean through."
 -- Ray Price, on recording 'Crazy Arms'








Re: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread Jeff Wall

At 01:25 AM 1/18/99 -0500, you wrote:


On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Jeff Wall wrote:

 At 11:17 PM 1/17/99 -0600, you wrote:

 Clarence, the fifth Beatle.

I am aware of four gentlemen who can claim, with varying degrees of
justification, the title of "The Fifth Beatle."


I had heard that Billy Preston could also make the claim. Or am I thinking
of the Stones?

Jeff Wall   
 http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine
727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764



3 sided records/Joe Jackson

1999-01-18 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 17-Jan-99 Re: Steve Earle/old
vinyl/H.. by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Does Genesis' "Three Sides Live" count?

Nope.  Fourth side's studio cuts, not blank vinyl.  Kinda like Graham
Parker's Parkerilla used a disco remix to fill out a live double album.

Back to Jackson: I really enjoyed the production method he used in the
mid-Eighties, with everything arranged and mix levels set when he went
into the studio, then cut live.  Big World was the most extreme record
done this way, but Body  Soul (recorded in a huge room) also sounds
great, almost like a cast album from a jazzy musical.

Carl Z. 



Re: Luann Kowalek

1999-01-18 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 17-Jan-99 Luann Kowalek by
Richard Flohil@inforamp. 
 So where's Carl's deliciously-named Fear  Whiskey radio show out of,
 anyway?  And how did he discover this record?

Fear  Whiskey broadcasts out of Pittsburgh and netcasts mp3s out of
www.wrct.org.  Kowalek's label sent us her disc last week, along with
one by a group whose name escapes me at the moment, but whose disc was
produced by Morris Tepper.  That disc will likely get airtime on
tonight's show.

adding Canadian content,
Carl Z.




Re: 3 sided records/Joe Jackson

1999-01-18 Thread Tom Smith

Carl Abraham Zimring wrote:
 
 Big World was the most extreme record
 done this way, but Body  Soul (recorded in a huge room) also sounds
 great, almost like a cast album from a jazzy musical.

Yeah, I think that's a key to understanding a major part of 
his approach.  Before his 1st album, his background was in 
musical theatre.

Tom Smith



Re: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread Mike Woods



On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Jeff Wall wrote:

 I had heard that Billy Preston could also make the claim. Or am I thinking
 of the Stones?

He did some session work for the Fab Four, I think especially the Let It
Be album (am I remembering the name right?)  But a bunch of people played
some parts here and there, so I don't think Billy becomes Beatle 5.

-- Mike Woods



Re: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 18-Jan-99 Re: the fifth
beatle by Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I had heard that Billy Preston could also make the claim. Or am I thinking
 of the Stones?

You are correct, based on Preston's involvement in the Let It Be sessions.  

Preston's in a world of trouble right now.  Currently serving a
three-year sentence for cocaine possession, he and his wife face charges
of setting fires for insurance fraud.  He faces another twenty years if
convicted.

As for Don Rich, the Beatles owe a lot to him, but also to Chuck Berry,
the Everleys, Peter Sellers, and others.  As we discussed last summer,
they were masterful synthesists who took several elements and fashioned
them into something new.

Carl Z. 



re: Luann Kowalek

1999-01-18 Thread Ameritwang


Carl Z. wrote:

That disc will likely get airtime on tonight's show.

adding Canadian content,

does that mean you'll finally play my repeated requests for Glass Tiger?

Paul



Canadians and MLK (was Re: Luann Kowalek)

1999-01-18 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 18-Jan-99 re: Luann Kowalek
by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 does that mean you'll finally play my repeated requests for Glass Tiger?

Three responses:

1) No, but maybe I'll discuss the big Pavel Bure-Ed Jovanovski trade.
2) Glass Tiger and "Seventh Heaven"?  You are shameless, Paul.
3) An odd, but twang-related request: Given that we are observing MLK
day here in the states, does anyone know of good blues or twang-related
tributes to the man?  I'll play Stevie Wonder's "Happy Birthday" to
start the show off, but would like something after it to serve as a
transition.

Carl Z. 



RE: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread Jon Weisberger

Geff says:

 On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Mike Woods wrote:

  How Clarence White, admirable guitarist that he is, qualifies
 for this is beyond me.
 
  -- Mike Woods

 The fifth Beatle was Don Rich.
 If not for him, the Bealtes' sound as we know it today would not exist.

I'm sorry - I hate to disagree with a bass player - but I just don't see it.
Rich's tenure with Owens began around early 1960, he was featured about as
much on the fiddle as on the guitar, and they didn't really hit a groove for
another year; Buck's first album wasn't released until 1961, and he didn't
have his first #1 until 1963 (it was "Act Naturally").  I believe that if
you listen to the Tony Sheridan recordings, the early tracks from Live At
The BBC, etc., you'll hear the Beatles' sound as we know it today already
surprisingly well-formed.  I don't see that there was enough time for the
Buckaroos sound to have had much of an influence on the basics of the
Beatles' style, and it's interesting that while they covered a lot of stuff
in their BBC appearances - Chuck Berry, Carl Perkins, Elvis Presley, songs
from Leiber-Stoller and Goffin-King, etc. - there's not a Buck song among
them.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter

1999-01-18 Thread Jeff Weiss

At 03:38 PM 1/15/99 -0600, you wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Geffry King wrote:

 On another note...how many of you p2'ers have owned (or own) a three sided
 album? And what is it called?

"Monty Python's Matching Tie and Handkerchief." Side 3 was a hidden track
on Side 2; the two spirals were interwoven so that, when you dropped the
tone arm, you never knew which "side" you'd get.

I think Rhino did something similar with a Henny Youngman album, of which I
was once the proud owner.

Jeff


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Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter

1999-01-18 Thread Jeff Weiss

At 04:17 PM 1/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lance Davis wrote:
 
 Also--and on a completely unrelated note--can someone offer a reason why
 record companies used to make double LP's with Side 1 backed with Side 4?
 Call me crazy, but wouldn't it make more sense to have Side 2 on the flip
 since the record is already right there on the friggin turntable?
 
 The answer: so you could automagically play two following one and three
 following four.  Side three following two required manual intervention.

On another note...how many of you p2'ers have owned (or own) a three sided
album? And what is it called?

Didn't Graham Parker have a three sided album? Parkerilla, perhaps? I bet
he did it just to be difficult.

Jeff


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Re: Canadians and MLK (was Re: Luann Kowalek)

1999-01-18 Thread Jeff Wall

on one of the Live at the Mountain STage disc's, there is a Pop's Staples
cut where he talks about MLK and says's that this was his favorite song,
then plays it.

Sorry I can't remember which Mountain STage Record or which cut it was.

Jeff Wall   
 http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine
727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764



Playlist-Mother Road

1999-01-18 Thread Jamie Hoover

Playlist--Sounds from the Mother Road
January 16, 1999
KGLP 91.7fm Gallup Public Radio
Noon-2pm Saturdays

Christine Albert/New Mexico/Underneath the Lone Star Sky/dos

Wiley Jim Pfeiffer/Southwestern Serenade/Out of the
West/Wiley Western
Bryan Duckworth/Rancho Grande/Jesse Polka/Duckworth's Mood
Swing/Duckaway
Austin Lounge Lizards/Saguaro/Creatures from the Black
Saloon/Watermelon
Tom Russell/Navajo Rug/Poor Man's Dream/Dark Angel
Acoustic Cats/Ruidoso Blue/The Cat's Meow/Ranch Records
Sourdough Slim/There's Music in The Air Way Out West/Ridin
High Singin A Song/Sourdough Slim
Roy Rogers  Emmy Lou Harris/Little Joe the Wrangler/Roy
Roger's Tribute/BMG
Harry Jackson/Little Joe the Wrangler's Sister Nell/Cowboy
Songs on Folkways/Smithsonian
Prickley Pair/Cowgirl Cattle Call/Cactus Dance/Rock House
Riders in the Sky/How does he Yodel/Harmony Ranch/Columbia
Wylie and the Wild West/Yodeling Fool/Total Yodel/Rounder
Don Walser/Chime Bells/ Texas Souvenir/Sigh  Sound
Southwest
Ian Iyson/Night Riders Lament/Old Corrals and Sagebrush/CBS
Laurie Lewis  Tom Rozum/Texas Girl/The Oak  the
Laurel/Rounder
Rober Earl Keen/The Front Porch Song/The Live Album/Sugar
Hill
Joe Carr  Alan Munde/Windy Days  Dusty Skies/Windy Days 
Dusty Skies/Flying Fish
Bob Wills/Cowboy Boogie/Hillbilly Boogie/Columbia
Paul Burch  WPA Ballclub/Drifting Texas Sand/Wire to
Wire/Checkered Past
Herb Jefferies/Cow Cow Boogie/The Bronze Buckaroo Rides
Again/Warner Western
Emmy Lou Harris/Rose of Cimarron/Songs of the West/Warner
Bros.
Don Williams/Pancho/I Turn the Page/Giant
Chris Wall/Wild Bill and the Montana Kind/Any Saturday Night
in Texas/Cold Springs
Red Steagall  The Boys in the Bunkhouse/the Old Man  the
Fiddle/Red Steagall/Warner Western
Hot Rize/The Bravest Cowboy/Take It Home/Sugar Hill
Skip Gorman/The Lonely Cowboy/Lonesome Praire Love/Rounder
Norman Blake/Billy Gray/Old  New/Flying Fish
Don Edwards/Blue Bonnet Lane/West of Yesterday/Warner
Western
Dan Hicks/Cowboy Dream No.#19/Last Train to Hicksville/Blue
Thumb
Riders in the Sky/The Ballad of Palindrome/Palindrome/A
Great Big Western Howdy/Rounder

Happy Trails, Cow Patti

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Re: Playlist-Mother Road

1999-01-18 Thread Tom Smith

Jamie Hoover wrote:
 
 Playlist--Sounds from the Mother Road
 Herb Jefferies/Cow Cow Boogie/The Bronze Buckaroo Rides
 Again/Warner Western

Jamie, how's this album? I've only seen clips of Herb duking 
it out with outlaws and cinema scholars. I'm curious as to 
what he sounds like.  Does he come across like the Billy 
Eckstine of the Plains or something else?

Tom Smith



Re: Split Enz - True Colours

1999-01-18 Thread marie arsenault

Split Enz thread on P2 - cool.


Jerry says;
You are recalling an album by the Split Enz entitled _True Colors_.
Contained one of their earliest hits, "I Got You".  The origianl US
release was laser etched.  That is, if you held it to the light it would
reflect light in a fashion similar to a CD.


Trip down memory lane here. The radio station I worked at in college
had that same album. I forgot all about that cool etching. I believe
that album also contained my favorite Split Enz song of all - "Iris".
Am I right, Jerry? And do you have that album? The Split Enz
greatest hits cd does not include "Iris", unfortunately.

marie 



Re: Split Enz - True Colours

1999-01-18 Thread sslone

If I'm not mistaken "Iris" is from the album after "True Colors" 
which was called "Waiata" here in the States and "Corroboree" 
elsewhere.  Both are great albums by the way.

--Slonedog



Re: Luann Kowalek

1999-01-18 Thread r . fratkin



On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Carl Abraham Zimring wrote:

 Fear  Whiskey broadcasts out of Pittsburgh and netcasts mp3s out of
 www.wrct.org.  Kowalek's label sent us her disc last week, along with
 one by a group whose name escapes me at the moment, but whose disc was
 produced by Morris Tepper.  That disc will likely get airtime on
 tonight's show.
Would that be Wyckham Porteous?
BTW, he's a person, not a group...
Adding more CanCon,
Randi.



RE: Split Enz - True Colours

1999-01-18 Thread Hill, Christopher J

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/x.exe?p=amgsql=A18685

"Iris" is on _Waiata_.  Also called _Corroboree_ (and the reason I
couldn't replace my tape of _Waiata_ - I was looking for the wrong
title).  It's this album and _Time and Tide_ that vie for my favorite
Enz discs.

Favorite song?  Too tough.  "I Don't Wanna Dance", "Hello 
Sandy Allen", "Dirty Creature", "Message to My Girl", "Six 
Months in a Leaky Boat"...  Great, great, band.

Chris

 Trip down memory lane here. The radio station I worked at in college
 had that same album. I forgot all about that cool etching. I believe
 that album also contained my favorite Split Enz song of all - "Iris".
 Am I right, Jerry? And do you have that album? The Split Enz
 greatest hits cd does not include "Iris", unfortunately.
 
 marie 
 



Re: Playlist-Mother Road

1999-01-18 Thread Jamie Hoover

Hey Tom,

That's just about right--Billy Eckstine of the Plains.  The cd
has several duets including Little Texas, MM Murphy, Take 6,
Sons of the San Joaquin, Rex Allen Jr.  The Mills Brothers and
Cleve Francis.  It is jazzy but sort of fun at the same time.
Certainly not historical , but does reflect the Hollywood take
on the genre.

By the way thanks for the xmas card and news clipping, I think I
have a couple of items to send along for your files.

Jamie Hoover

Tom Smith wrote:

 Jamie Hoover wrote:
 
  Playlist--Sounds from the Mother Road
  Herb Jefferies/Cow Cow Boogie/The Bronze Buckaroo Rides
  Again/Warner Western

 Jamie, how's this album? I've only seen clips of Herb duking
 it out with outlaws and cinema scholars. I'm curious as to
 what he sounds like.  Does he come across like the Billy
 Eckstine of the Plains or something else?

 Tom Smith





Re: Luann Kowalek

1999-01-18 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 18-Jan-99 Re: Luann Kowalek
by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Would that be Wyckham Porteous?
 BTW, he's a person, not a group...

That's the one.  Is that his given name?

Carl Z. 



Sparklehorsin' around

1999-01-18 Thread Hill, Christopher J

Is it just me, or does "Ghost of His Smile" bring up
memories of the Buckaroo Banzai theme song?

Whatever, it makes me grin.

Sophie, if you're interviewing Mark, do you know if he's
seen the movie, or is this is just a coincidence?

Chris



Re: Steve Earle/old vinyl/Huddie Ledbetter

1999-01-18 Thread Pflash40

johnny winter had a three-sided record long agobelieve it is called second
winter but i could be wrong about that



Re: Canadians and MLK (was Re: Luann Kowalek)

1999-01-18 Thread RMould5417

In a message dated 1/18/99 9:54:28 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 An odd, but twang-related request: Given that we are observing MLK
 day here in the states, does anyone know of good blues or twang-related
 tributes to the man?  I'll play Stevie Wonder's "Happy Birthday" to
 start the show off, but would like something after it to serve as a
 transition.
 
 Carl Z. 
  


How about Ian Moore's version of Abraham, Martin and John. That work?


Joe X.
Third Coast



Re: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread RMould5417

In a message dated 1/18/99 9:29:34 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 As for Don Rich, the Beatles owe a lot to him, but also to Chuck Berry,
 the Everleys, Peter Sellers, and others.  As we discussed last summer,
 they were masterful synthesists who took several elements and fashioned
 them into something new.
 
 Carl Z. 
  


Add to that list Delbert McClinton, (taught 'em that "Hey Baby" harmonica
riff) and Augie Meyers. (wanted to learn how he got that organ sound on the
SDQ stuff)
At least this is what DM and AM have told me.

BTW, Augie is doing fine, recovering from an ailment that caused the
cancelation of the Tornados Far West Rodeo live recording / gig last week. 
Rumors of the seriousness of Augie's illness were greatly exagerated by them
damned Austin tree-huggers. g Tougher'n a boot - he's gonna be fine.


Joe X.
Third Coast

np: Bottle Rockets - Leftovers

(after overcoming some firewall problems, we are netcasting again - 3-7pm cst
M-F, 
2-6 pm cst Sat, 6-10pm cst Sundays) A HREF="http://www.accd.edu/tcmn/"Third
Coast site - ACCD/A 



Re: Canadians and MLK (was Re: Luann Kowalek)

1999-01-18 Thread \Doug Young aka \\\The Iceman\\\\

How about Emmylou Harris's It's a Hard Life Where Ever You Go/Abraham,
Martin  JOhn from Live at thr Ryman

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 1/18/99 9:54:28 AM Central Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  An odd, but twang-related request: Given that we are observing MLK
  day here in the states, does anyone know of good blues or twang-related
  tributes to the man?  I'll play Stevie Wonder's "Happy Birthday" to
  start the show off, but would like something after it to serve as a
  transition.

  Carl Z.
   

 How about Ian Moore's version of Abraham, Martin and John. That work?

 Joe X.
 Third Coast



Re: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread JKellySC1

In a message dated 1/18/99 11:38:04 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Add to that list Delbert McClinton, (taught 'em that "Hey Baby" harmonica
 riff)  

My father was touring in Europe and Britain around the same time the Beatles
were blazing their trail (60-63) and he says that Lennon was playing the
harmonica long before McClinton supposedly taught him. Whether or not
McClinton is being totally truthful about the situation or if the story has
just taken on some extrapolated details is up in the air. It sounds like an
urban legend to me.

Slim



RE: MLK

1999-01-18 Thread Jon Weisberger

Tommy Cash, "Six White Horses."  Like "Abraham, Martin  John" in theme
(same 3 guys, in fact), but, uh, country.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Re: Luann Kowalek

1999-01-18 Thread r . fratkin



On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Carl Abraham Zimring wrote:

 Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 18-Jan-99 Re: Luann Kowalek
 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Would that be Wyckham Porteous?
  BTW, he's a person, not a group...
 
 That's the one.  Is that his given name?
Yep... It's a pretty good record, too.

Randi.



Re: Canadians and MLK (was Re: Luann Kowalek)

1999-01-18 Thread Geffry King

On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about Ian Moore's version of Abraham, Martin and John. That work?
 
Or Smokey Robinson's version, which I heard last night on some smarmy
blues/Rock Americana show. Magnificent reading of the song, though.

-- 
 Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/
 "The United States will collapse by 1980." 
  --Timothy Leary, 1965 (15 years before the 1980 election)



Re: Split Enz - True Colours

1999-01-18 Thread William F. Silvers

Marie asked:

 I believe
 that album also contained my favorite Split Enz song of all - "Iris".
 Am I right, Jerry? And do you have that album? The Split Enz
 greatest hits cd does not include "Iris", unfortunately.

Hill, Christopher J replied:

 "Iris" is on _Waiata_.  Also called _Corroboree_ (and the reason I
 couldn't replace my tape of _Waiata_ - I was looking for the wrong
 title).  It's this album and _Time and Tide_ that vie for my favorite
 Enz discs.

 Favorite song?  Too tough.  "I Don't Wanna Dance", "Hello
 Sandy Allen", "Dirty Creature", "Message to My Girl", "Six
 Months in a Leaky Boat"...  Great, great, band.

WAIATA was the name of the US issue, CORROBOREE the version for the Anzacs,
same tunes.
From the AMG:

 Waiata is the Maori word for party (the album was given the Aboriginal party
   title, Corroboree in Australia).

I *think* the only way to get anything but TRUE COLOURS is to get it on
import, the Australian Mushroom label. That's how I've got most of their
records, anyway, and I have everything.
WAIATA is very much a time and place record for me, (1981, kids) but still
a very sentimental fave and my favorite Split Enz, though I suppose TIME
AND TIDE would have to be considered *best*. Chris mentions some great
tunes,  (mostly all from T+T) but leaves out my favorite Split Enz and Neil
Finn song, "One Step Ahead", from WAIATA. Not to mention "History Never
Repeats".
And Marie, the Split Enz greatest hits comps blow. Not nearly long enough,
for one thing, and poor song selection IMO.
If you're interested in a highly subjective best-of (but authoritative, of
courseg) let me know. I'd love to do a tape.
And Chaco, if you're still following along, that Neil Finn record is pretty
good, and not as different from his regular material as implied. If you're
a fan, I'd recommend it.

b.s.

n.p. Rhonda Vincent A DREAM COME TRUE




Re: Jim Lauderdale and Ralph Stanley

1999-01-18 Thread RoCogs



A friend of mine is going down to Bristol, TN today to take pictures of Jim
Lauderdale and Ralph Stanley, apparently they're down there recording a record
together. Should be pretty cool. 

Wish I were going with her.

ELena

P.S. It has been pointed out to me by some close friends that it is painfully
obvious from my posts to this list that my spelling is ATROCIOUS. Sorry y'all,
I'll work on it. (Gotta get spellcheck, and stop typing so fast).



Yiddish URL??

1999-01-18 Thread Ndubb

Sorry, this ain't so on-topic, but does anyone know of a website that might be
devoted to the Yiddish language? I'm finishing up a piece on Chuck E. Weiss
and must find something resembling proper spelling (or at least the most
widely accepted spelling) of a couple words: mushagas and tookis. Chuck's
really in to the Yiddish thing, if in a kitsch way.

That Weiss record, due 2/2, is one twisted hoot. A must for fans of Tom Waits,
who produced the album.

Neal E. Weiss (no relation)



Re: 3 sided records

1999-01-18 Thread Village Records

First one I ever remember seeing was Johnny Winter's Second Winter.

Second one was Rahsaan Roland Kirk Three Sided Dream.

Probably already mentioned but I didn't see it.

Bill Lavery
http://villagerecords.com/




Re: Jim Lauderdale and Ralph Stanley

1999-01-18 Thread marie arsenault

A friend of mine is going down to Bristol, TN today to take pictures of Jim
Lauderdale and Ralph Stanley, apparently they're down there recording a record
together. Should be pretty cool.

I saw Lauderdale the weekend before last at a Nammy showcase. (He was
phenomenal,
as usual.) He mentioned that he was recording an entire album with Stanley. He
seemed
pretty excited about it.  And if  the song he did with Stanley on *Whisper* is
any indication,
it should be a good one.

Wish I were going with her.
me too. me too.

marie



Re: Strohm

1999-01-18 Thread PopBooking

Steve K. wrote:

 np: John Strohm--"Caledonia" (anyone ever seen this guy live?...he's
 playing SXSW and I'm wondering what to expect)  

Neal W. replied:

I saw him live is LA a few months back Steve. Nothing extraordinary as far
as
presence, just another alt-ish singer-songwriter in a sport coat, if I
remember correctly.

Hmm...the sport coat rock seems like an interesting approach for ol' Strohm.
(maybe he's showing his age g).  His live shows were never anything to
really write home about, however, I did enjoy how he'd seque songs into one
another during his Antenna days by holding the last note, etc.

Paul/Pop Booking



RE: Yiddish URL??

1999-01-18 Thread Derek Sampson

Well,

This link will put you to a Yiddish dictionary for travelers, but it
should be helpful for basic words or sayings:   
http://www.travlang.com/languages/cgi-bin/langchoice.cgi?page=mainlang1
=englishlang2=yiddish

And this site from here in Philadelphia at UPENN has a dictionary etc...

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/german/yiddish/

Good luck,

Derek
http://www.buckdiaz.com No yiddish on this site.



Re: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread RMould5417

In a message dated 1/18/99 12:11:01 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 My father was touring in Europe and Britain around the same time the Beatles
 were blazing their trail (60-63) and he says that Lennon was playing the
 harmonica long before McClinton supposedly taught him. Whether or not
 McClinton is being totally truthful about the situation or if the story has
 just taken on some extrapolated details is up in the air. It sounds like an
 urban legend to me.
 
 Slim
  


Yeah, if the story is that McClinton taught Lennon *how* to play harmonica,
then it's not true.
Delbert says in several interviews I've read that he taught Lennon how *he*
played the harmonica, which makes more sense.
I'm guessing JL had been honking around on the harp for a while before they
met.
Who knows / cares, right? It's a great story either way. Kinda gives us the
right to say those limey bastards wouldn't have set the bar so high for Garth
if it hadn't been for the American RRers who showed 'em how to do it.g

Joe X. 
TCMN

np: The Stillmen - Go!X3



Re: the fifth beatle/Delbert McClinton

1999-01-18 Thread John Patterson

The story I heard was that Delbert  the Beatles
were touring England together (don't remember 
which was opening for which), and Delbert taught
Lennon the opening harp riff for "Love Me Do".

-jp



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 1/18/99 12:11:01 PM Central Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
  My father was touring in Europe and Britain around the same time the Beatles
  were blazing their trail (60-63) and he says that Lennon was playing the
  harmonica long before McClinton supposedly taught him. Whether or not
  McClinton is being totally truthful about the situation or if the story has
  just taken on some extrapolated details is up in the air. It sounds like an
  urban legend to me.
 
  Slim
   
 
 Yeah, if the story is that McClinton taught Lennon *how* to play harmonica,
 then it's not true.
 Delbert says in several interviews I've read that he taught Lennon how *he*
 played the harmonica, which makes more sense.
 I'm guessing JL had been honking around on the harp for a while before they
 met.
 Who knows / cares, right? It's a great story either way. Kinda gives us the
 right to say those limey bastards wouldn't have set the bar so high for Garth
 if it hadn't been for the American RRers who showed 'em how to do it.g
 
 Joe X.
 TCMN
 
 np: The Stillmen - Go!X3



RE: Split Enz - True Colours

1999-01-18 Thread Jerald Corder

I saw Crowded House live on MTV some years ago and they did a song that I
didn't recognize.  The only lyric I can remember is somthing about "shedding
skin".  Since it looks like we have some Finn experts here I thought I would
float it out.

Also anyone know a Louvin Brothers song with the line "what are those things
with wings..."

Thanks,


Jerald



Re: Live at the Ryman: A visit to the Mother Church (long)

1999-01-18 Thread Robert Wray

   Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:01:40 -0500
   From: "Jon Weisberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Who decides who becomes a member of the Opry and who doesn't?  

   "Opry
   management" decides who becomes a member; if you manage to pierce that veil,
   let us know.

Ahha!  So that's why they can snub Jimmy Martin and no one person gets
held accountable.  Even more interesting considering that the
hierarchy of members and guests is mentioned so frequently during the
show, or at least on this one.

Not intending to stir up a
hornet's nest, but how do I resolve these performers'
much-less-than-perfect vocal skills (admitted degraded skills) with
the argument that country is medium/genre in which performance skills
are central?

   Well, there's a two-part answer to that, the first part of which is that
   there are a lot of people in and around country music who complain regularly
   about the degraded skills of some performers; see, for instance, periodic
   discussion on bgrass-l (let me observe, too, that a number of the
   performers - John Conlee being a good example - have their good days and
   their bad; I have heard him absolutely kill some stuff in the last year or
   two, and heard some pretty bad performances as well).  The second part is
   that there are some outstanding musicians in the bands, including the house
   band.  Overall, though, I'd say that going to the Opry, or going to see some
   of these stars, has a lot to do with - well, I'm in a rush, so this bad
   phrase will have to do - nostalgia, not with the musical quality of all the
   acts.

Hmmm.  Can we talk about this one a bit more?  (maybe I am entering into more
of an discussion than I wanted to?)

If I make an admittedly over-simplified summary of some of the debates
we've had here in the past, one of arguments has seemed to be: musical
proficiency is central to country, especially to a *country* audience
(as opposed to say a punk audience).  However, here are some folks,
enjoying country music -- I don't think anyone would want to argue
that the Opry isn't country and the audience a country audience ? --
but that music isn't performed (or at least sung -- I'd agree 100% that
the anonymous musicians on stage were crackerkjack) with anything
close to perfection.

I would readily agree that there might be two country audiences -- an
*old* country audience and a *new* country audience, with different
expectations from a performance.  Or maybe just an Opry country
audience?  But these differentitions seem to create more problems than
they solve?  Especially since those audience expectations have
evidently evolved over time?

I agree with the notion that a large segment of the audience and ther
performers are all participating in a form of nostalgia -- that's what
makes seeing old men like Porter Wagoner and Bill Anderson so painful
as they try to project a long-gone sexual aura (IMHO) -- but it does
cut at the heart of the argument that one of the essential
expectations of a country audience is near-perfect musicianship.  Or
am I missing the boat here? -- maybe there are many more people
complaining about the performers than were evident after the show
Friday?

- Do the regular performers keep repeating the same songs and same
jokes?

   Some do, some don't.  Watch or listen a few times and you'll figure out
   which; when you can identify the subject of the "Willie Nelson after taxes"
   line, you'll be there g.

Little Jimmy Dickens.  That's one of the lines my neighbor blurted out
while Little Jimmy was pausing for comedic effect :)

Bob




RE: Split Enz - True Colours

1999-01-18 Thread sslone

I think there's a line about "shed my skin" in the Crowded House song 
"Love This Life" from "Temple of Low Men".

--Slonedog



RE: Split Enz - True Colours

1999-01-18 Thread Hill, Christopher J

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/8122/chindex.htm

Could it be the song below?  Possible, as it's only on their greatest hits
cd, so they might have been playing it to promote the cd's release.

EVERYTHING IS GOOD FOR YOU
(Neil Finn)

I see a man with a flag
and he leads the procession
and a woman shedding tears
for a man locked in prison...

Unless it's the incredibly fine "Recurring Dream" (title
of the greatest hits, but not included.  Logic?)  I don't know what
the lyrics to that song are, and they're not included on the above
site.

Of course, now I'm singing "shed my skin, I just wanna shed my
skin" - Midnight Oil's "Sell My Soul".  Up goes the volume on 
AMC's _California_!

Not much = help, much = free time.

Chris

 I saw Crowded House live on MTV some years ago and they did a song that I
 didn't recognize.  The only lyric I can remember is somthing about "shedding
 skin".  Since it looks like we have some Finn experts here I thought I would
 float it out.
 
 



RE: Yiddish URL??

1999-01-18 Thread Nina Melechen

Try mishegas and tuchas/tukhas



Gomez

1999-01-18 Thread Christopher M Knaus

Hey there,

Just got a hold of the Gomez CD I had mentioned a few weeks ago. They are
that UK band that was just on the cover of Mojo. This is some good lo-fi
electric rootsy stuff. Kinda Band-ish, kinda not. By that I mean the same
type of instrumentation - some acoustic stuff, some brass licks, some
organ riffs, some feedback. Some of the songs rock a bit, and others are
more, erm, atmospheric. One or two of the later tracks are a bit noodly
for my taste, but not enough to ruin the rest of the CD. Anyone else come
across this?

Read the Mojo article if you want real insight g

Later...
CK
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RE: CD Reviewing ethics

1999-01-18 Thread JP Riedie

Isn't the title of this post oxymoronic ? g

I was shocked to see a reviewer even stop and think about such things.
Without blowing anybody's cover, I can say without reservation that the
relationships between musicians and the writers who review and cover them
are generally a whole lot closer than either party lets on




Sara Evans interview

1999-01-18 Thread William F. Silvers

Clipped this from the Jam TV site:

Sara Evans is Ready for Her Payday

You'll have to excuse Sara Evans if she
sounds a bit flustered, though you can
hardly
blame her. For one thing, she and her
husband are in the middle of trying to sell
their
Springfield, Tenn., home and a couple of
prospective buyers have arrived smack in the

middle of her phone interview. Then there's
the
matter of her country music career, which
has
been a sweet and sour mix of critical
acclaim
and stubborn radio support. Three months
after moving to Nashville, Missouri native
Evans found legendary country songwriter
Harlan Howard to be one of her biggest fans
and supporters. At the six-month marker, she

was the toast of Music Row and the
bewildered prize in a multilabel bidding
war.
Her 1997 debut, Three Chords and the Truth,
was hailed as a great white hope for
traditional
country, a Patsy Cline record spiked with
the
Bakersfield grit of Dwight Yoakam producer
Pete Anderson. But the album was "too
country" for country radio, and died a quiet

death. Fighting fire with fire, Evans
bounced
back last year with "Cryin' Game," a
contemporary country pop, sure-fire Top Ten
hit that didn't even crack the Top 40.

At the time of this interview, Evans had her

fingers crossed for the follow-up single and
the
title track from her new album, No Place
That
Far. It didn't debut in the Top 40, as she
had
hoped, but it has since proven to have
long-distance legs: after twenty-two weeks,
the single currently sits at No. 18 on the
Billboard Hot Country Singles chart, smack
between the Dixie Chicks and Shania Twain.
Her album, meanwhile, jumped from No. 42 to
No. 31 on the Top Country Albums Charts last

week and was designated the week's
"Pacesetter." The twenty-seven-year-old
singer/songwriter has been on the edge of
her
seat, watching the charts and waiting for
her
horse to come in for a long time. At long
last,
here she comes.

How worked up do you get over the
charts?

Oh, I get extremely worked up. I get
frustrated,
honestly, because I just think, "What do
they
want?" It's so hard to be in this business
and
not have radio success. It's very hard to
get on
a tour, it's hard to sell albums -- it's
hard to do
anything. You're sort of stuck between that
place of having a record deal and having a
hit.
So there's, like, no money. I'm like the
girl that
everybody says, "You're the best artist who
hasn't broken yet." I'm like, "Well, that's
flattering for a while, but I'm sick of that
title."
Tim McGraw, every time he sees me, he's
like, "Keep making records girl, they're
gonna
get it one day, don't you give up." And it's
like,
you know, that's easy for him to say.
(Laughs)

Is it true that, because you had Pete
Anderson as your last producer, your first
album was perceived as an "L.A. album,"
which sort of got it stonewalled at country
radio?

Yeah, that was a big part of it. Dwight and
Pete are not considered to be the
friendliest
people to country radio that you could ever
meet, and also the fact that it was so
country.
I 

Re: New Grass Revival - White Freightliner

1999-01-18 Thread Stevie Simkin

Not that it matters all that much (but how much of what we say around
here really matters all that much anyway?) but Son Volt have covered WFB
too.  And it seems to be the theme tune for Mountain Stage (or is it
e-town?) one of those radio shows anyhow - they get whoever's on stage
to trot it out over their end credits.

sorry to get all Nietzschean on you all all of a sudden

Stevie




Re: BANGBANG

1999-01-18 Thread fboenig

White Shirt big hit with listeners!

WDVR and Thursday night Swing Night at the Holiday INN in Clinton NJ.
FRED BOENIG
WDVR



Re: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread Danlee2

 - George Martin, their producer.  George had a lot to do with shaping the
  sound of their recordings, and played on a number of their tracks.

   I try to avoid "me too" posts if I can, butme too.   Without Martin,
even imagining how many of the Beatles records would have sounded is pretty
much impossible.  A perfectionist, an ass-kicker, with a motherload of great
ideas and solid grounding in classical music, they were really so danged lucky
to have fallen in with him.  Not a fan of his solo stuff tho...g

Dan Bentele  



RE: the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread Walker, Jason

I believe that if there was a fifth Beatle, it was Carl Perkins.
Any takers?
Junior

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Weisberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 1999 1:36
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  RE: the fifth beatle
 
 Geff says:
 
  On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Mike Woods wrote:
 
   How Clarence White, admirable guitarist that he is, qualifies
  for this is beyond me.
  
   -- Mike Woods
 
  The fifth Beatle was Don Rich.
  If not for him, the Bealtes' sound as we know it today would not exist.
 
 I'm sorry - I hate to disagree with a bass player - but I just don't see
 it.
 Rich's tenure with Owens began around early 1960, he was featured about as
 much on the fiddle as on the guitar, and they didn't really hit a groove
 for
 another year; Buck's first album wasn't released until 1961, and he didn't
 have his first #1 until 1963 (it was "Act Naturally").  I believe that if
 you listen to the Tony Sheridan recordings, the early tracks from Live At
 The BBC, etc., you'll hear the Beatles' sound as we know it today already
 surprisingly well-formed.  I don't see that there was enough time for the
 Buckaroos sound to have had much of an influence on the basics of the
 Beatles' style, and it's interesting that while they covered a lot of
 stuff
 in their BBC appearances - Chuck Berry, Carl Perkins, Elvis Presley, songs
 from Leiber-Stoller and Goffin-King, etc. - there's not a Buck song among
 them.
 
 Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



CD reviewing ethics

1999-01-18 Thread Ndubb

 I was shocked to see a reviewer even stop and think about such things.
 Without blowing anybody's cover, I can say without reservation that the
 relationships between musicians and the writers who review and cover them
 are generally a whole lot closer than either party lets on 

Of course it is. And this is the great Catch 22 in such a profession. On one
hand, a writer should submerge his or herself into the culture, local scene,
etc. to understand the music and the artists better. Good relationships with
musicians also tend to allow for greater insight by the writer and more
openness from the artist. All obvious stuff. But at the same time, it is
dicey. Once that relationship crosses the line, it challenges a writer's
ability to speak freely in print about an album or an artist. And tainted
opinion is the last thing music journalism needs.

I remember a story from a couple years ago. Buddy Blue from the Beat Farmers
was writing music reviews for the LA Times under the name of Buddy Siegal.
But, as I heard the story, once Times Pop Editor Robert Hilburn learned of his
active role as an artist in local clubs, he pretty much told him that it would
have to be one or the other.  Twas a conflict of interest. How could the same
person who's trying to get gigs at certain clubs also write objectively about
other gigs at that club? Worth considering. 

BTW, Buddy Siegal did cease writing for the Times and is now the music editor
of the OC Weekly, which obviously doesn't have such an ethical problem, or
doesn't have ethics... one or the other. 

Adios.

Neal Weiss



RE: Split Enz - True Colours

1999-01-18 Thread Walker, Jason

I think the song in question is one by Melbourne band Hunters  Collectors
called "Throw Your Arms Around Me" - 
the lyric in question is:
And we may never meet again
So shed your skin and let's get started
And you will throw your arms around me"
Junior

 -Original Message-
 From: Jerald Corder [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 1999 6:21
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  RE: Split Enz - True Colours
 
 I saw Crowded House live on MTV some years ago and they did a song that I
 didn't recognize.  The only lyric I can remember is somthing about
 "shedding
 skin".  Since it looks like we have some Finn experts here I thought I
 would
 float it out.
 
 Also anyone know a Louvin Brothers song with the line "what are those
 things
 with wings..."
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Jerald



Re: Canadians and MLK (was Re: Luann Kowalek)

1999-01-18 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring

Thanks for all the suggestions.  I'll go see if our library has any of
these songs, or even Dion's version of "Abraham, Martin  John"

Carl Z. 



Re: Hank Williams

1999-01-18 Thread Brian Debenham

On 14 Jan, Steve Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking for songs about Hank Williams.  Not Hank songs...but
 one's about him.

Almost As Blue As Hank Williams - The Panic Brothers
The Ghost Of Hank Williams - The Kentucky Headhunters

Brian

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The fifth Beatle Clarence White

1999-01-18 Thread Budrocket




According to the All (Knowing) Music guide, Clarence White participates 
inevery Byrds album from Younger Than yesterday to 
Farther along. However,he's not an official 
member until after Sweetheart. So, here's myquestion: If 
he's just a session until Easy rider, what songs does he 
playon prior to that album? And also, at what point does he start 
touring withthe band? And, finally, does anyone else notice a similarity 
between thesong Nashville West, and Todd Snider's My 
Generation (Part 2)?Clarence's 
pre-official Byrd status apearances:
YOUNGER THAN YESTERDAY (1967)
Time Between (which also 
features Vern Gosdin on acoustic guitar), Girl With No 
Name
NOTORIOUS BYRD 
BROTHERS (1968)
Wasn't Born To Follow, Change Is Now, 
Goin' Back (also with Orville Red Rhodes on 
steel)
SWEETHEART OF THE RODEO (1968)
A *lot* of the tracks, but you can really hear him backing up 
the last verse of One Hundred Years From Now
Also...
GENE CLARK WITH THE GOSDEN BROTHERS (1967)
Released the same week as Younger Than Yesterday,  
features the Byrds rhythm section (Hillman  Michael Clarke).

Clarence's official status as a Byrd began when they returned 
from their disasterous South African tour (minus one Gram Parsons) July 1968, 
 he appeared live  on their next album DR. BYRDS  MR. 
HYDE (1969) in that capacity, continuing through the end of that 
configuration of the group in 1972. He was not a part of the reunion on 
Asylum Records in 1973...which really isn't *that* bad of an album, if you ask 
me...

Buddy
Ask Dr. Stupid Rockets

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the fifth beatle

1999-01-18 Thread Budrocket




It was Leppo.

He mainly stood in the back. He couldn't play guitar, 
but he knew how to have a good time,  in Hamburg that was more 
difficult.

Buddy 
I'd Like To Be Two Hairdressers Rockets

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Paycheck update?

1999-01-18 Thread Kelly Kessler




Any news on Johnny Paycheck's wellbeing? 
Also, does anyone happen to know an address that get well wishes might be sent 
to?

Kelly


Re: CD reviewing ethics

1999-01-18 Thread JKellySC1

In a message dated 1/18/99 4:51:09 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 How could the same
 person who's trying to get gigs at certain clubs also write objectively about
 other gigs at that club? Worth considering.  

When I lived in Atlanta I wrote music columns for Creative Loafing (still do)
and my band the Convicts played at a number of clubs. My deal with the editor
was to only write about out of town bands, and to keep my dual identities
separate. The only thing that I was ever concerned about was the connection I
had with the Star Bar, which was the place where most of the alt. country
bands play. I had a talk with the booker, and she was comfortable with the
double role. We did not play there any more than other bands, and she was able
to say "no" to me without repercussions. Of course, Atlanta is a much more
musician-friendly place than LA. 

Slim np - Wynonna's Chevy commercial - ACK!!! 



RE: Paycheck update?

1999-01-18 Thread Jon Weisberger

From country.com, dated 1/8:

Paycheck Improving

According to his manager, country veteran
Johnny Paycheck is improving after
undergoing lower-intestinal surgery. "They
have gotten (the intestinal problem) under
control, and that is the reason that Johnny
is getting stronger, slowly and gradually

I heard more or less the same thing on WSM about a week ago; the mention
included something about Paycheck's resuming performances later this year.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/



Re: Split Enz - True Colours

1999-01-18 Thread Erik Gerding



b.s. wrote;

WAIATA .my favorite Split Enz, though I suppose
TIME
AND TIDE would have to be considered *best*. Chris mentions some great
tunes,  (mostly all from T+T) but leaves out my favorite Split Enz and Neil
Finn song, "One Step Ahead", from WAIATA. Not to mention "History Never
Repeats".



What do you think of the "Frenzy" album? I found it after getting True
Colours and Waiata. "Frenzy" pre dates both of those records it gave me some
insight into what they were doing before their "I Got You" smash. I really
like "Semi Detached" and "Holy Smoke". I sniffed around Portland and found
the 1975 Mental Notes, before Neil Finn joined the band. I noticed the
strong presence of Philip Judd on the sound of the band at that time.(or
maybe it was the mushrooms) What other Enz/Judd records are there, (besides
1979's Beginning of the Enz) and what became of Judd after he left the band?
Assuming there was no tragedy that I never heard about.

Erik



RE: Split Enz - True Colours

1999-01-18 Thread Walker, Jason

These days Phil Judd is working on film soundtracks and so forth here in
Australia and New Zealand. He was also involved in ENZSO, a project
involving the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra and members of Split Enz. Being
a New Zealander myself, Split Enz are very near and dear to my heart and to
many NZers of all ages.
Just as an addendum, the song that Golden Smog have been covering is
correctly titled I Got You, rather than I Get Frightened or Sometimes I
don't know why I get frightened. :)
Junior
NP: Go to the pedant, thou sluggard - consider his ways and be thoroughly
ticked off

 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Gerding [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 January 1999 10:13
 To:   passenger side
 Subject:  Re: Split Enz - True Colours
 
 
 
 b.s. wrote;
 
 WAIATA .my favorite Split Enz, though I suppose
 TIME
 AND TIDE would have to be considered *best*. Chris mentions some great
 tunes,  (mostly all from T+T) but leaves out my favorite Split Enz and
 Neil
 Finn song, "One Step Ahead", from WAIATA. Not to mention "History Never
 Repeats".
 
 
 
 What do you think of the "Frenzy" album? I found it after getting True
 Colours and Waiata. "Frenzy" pre dates both of those records it gave me
 some
 insight into what they were doing before their "I Got You" smash. I really
 like "Semi Detached" and "Holy Smoke". I sniffed around Portland and found
 the 1975 Mental Notes, before Neil Finn joined the band. I noticed the
 strong presence of Philip Judd on the sound of the band at that time.(or
 maybe it was the mushrooms) What other Enz/Judd records are there,
 (besides
 1979's Beginning of the Enz) and what became of Judd after he left the
 band?
 Assuming there was no tragedy that I never heard about.
 
 Erik



Re: AC/DC meets Patsy Cline? Yeee-haw

1999-01-18 Thread stuart



Shane S. Rhyne wrote:

  Howdy, Tucker talks about an author I've always meant to investigate
 further. I seem to enjoy movies and television shows based on Elmore
 Leonard's writings (Maximum Bob on ABC was brilliant fun and I hope it
 comes back someday.) Strangely enough, I haven't read any of Leonard's
 actual writings, though. I'll have to rectify that.

.Yep.  They are all great.  A friend of mine who is a personal injury
and former legal aide lawyer in Minneapolis turned me onto them claiming
their absolute veracity when it comes to depicting low-lifes, riff-raff
and schemers.  Check out The Switch, or the Big Switch.  It's the one
that precedes the one the movie Jackie Brown was based on.  I guarantee
you, you will have a shit-eating grin on your face at the end.  The guy
is the best American writer since Raymond Chandler, or maybe Jim
Thompson.



Re: Canadians and MLK (was Re: Luann Kowalek)

1999-01-18 Thread LindaRay64

Mahalia Jackson, Take My Hand Precious Lord

In a message dated 1/18/99 9:54:28 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 3) An odd, but twang-related request: Given that we are observing MLK
 day here in the states, does anyone know of good blues or twang-related
 tributes to the man?  I'll play Stevie Wonder's "Happy Birthday" to
 start the show off, but would like something after it to serve as a
 transition. 



Re: the TNN awards

1999-01-18 Thread Diana Quinn

Well, i held my nose and just voted in JUST A FEW of the TNN Music City
News Country Awards. Pukesville! no wonder country radio is starting to
fade! We have a country music monthly in the DC-area called Country Plus
-- it used to be 40 pages and was down to something like 16 pages in the
last issue. I talked to the editor/publisher/chief bottle washer last
week, because I wanted to take out an ad about our upcoming barn dances
(STILL DONT HAVE A GOOD NAME) and she told me that the line-dancing bars
are all closing (that's true) and the western wear shops are starting to
fall like dominoes. 
dq



Re: Twangcast

1999-01-18 Thread Diana Quinn

well i finally got twangcast.com to work on my computer and had a very
enjoyable afternoon -- especially liking the Heather Myles (surprised
me!) and Cigar Store Indians cuts. wah-hoo!