Re: CSBlood vessel health
I would have confidence in homeopathic remedies here - I'd feel better consulting a homeopath about this one rather than trying to work it out privately. Heel are sure to have a good remedy. Rowena Homeopathic Hamamelis: This remedy can help with passive bleeding if a person's veins are weak, and may also relieve discomfort after surgery on varicose veins and hemorrhoids. FOR HEMORRHAGE OF ANY KIND PASSIVE OR ACTIVE FROM VEINS OR ARTERIES. THE BLEEDING DUE TO INTERNAL DISORGANISATION OF BLOOD OR DUE TO DISEASES OF INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL INJURIES IS CONTROLED BY HHHS DROPS OR TABLETS. AVAILABLE AS ORAL DROPS AND TABLES ALONG WITH MOTHER TINCTURE TO USE EXTERNALY. BLEEDING DISORDER DROPS AND TABLETS ARE COMPOSED OF ACO,ARNICA, CALANDULA, BELL, CARB V, CAULOPH, CHINA, HAMMA, HYPERICUM, IPEC, SECALE, TRILLIUM, ALL IN 6X POTENCY. http://homeopathyatoz.com/bleeding-disorder-oral-drops-and-tablets.html Bioflavonoids also help reduce heavy bleeding by strengthening blood vessel walls. Foods rich in bioflavonoids include blueberries, cherries, and grapes. By strengthening the tiny blood vessels of the eye, bilberry helps to facilitate delivery of essential oxygen and nutrients to the eye and has been shown to be effective in the prevention and treatment of degenerative diseases of the retina. http://www.vitaminlink.net/vizu-all-plus-50ml.html http://www.herbalhealer.com/homeopathy.html has nosodes for this year's flu and Lyme nosodes also for Lyme patients. Probably any homeopath could give you that, but I just noticed this because of recent posts. ... Can anyone tell me the best protocol for strengthening weak blood vessels please. My husband suffers from bleeds into the eye a lot -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Dear Peter: Kathryn has done an excellent job of answering your questions. I will add my two cents. I do not have Lyme, but a friend of mine had it and I helped develop a system that got rid of it. Please take a look at http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus So far as I know, normal ionic colloidal silver by itself will not be useful in dealing with the Lyme spirochetes. Once you kill the spirochetes and have serious herx reactions then colloidal silver will be of great benefit. My friend Carol consumed as much as 32 ounces a day to help to deal with secondary infections and the fever and chills caused by the dead spirochetes. There is another product called MesoSilver made by Frank Key that is mostly extremely small particles and very little ionic and there is some information that this type of colloidal silver may be effective for Lyme. http://www.colloidal-silver-colloids.com/1568940264asf589d516d3615d746afdfaf d/lym5813.htm There is a yahoo group that you might want to visit that deals mostly with Lyme. lyme-and-r...@yahoogroups.com Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Hi Peter, Welcome to the group. I am not official in any way, so this is an unofficial welcoming message. ;-) You have so many questions, I am not sure anyone has the answers for many of them. I don't think I have lyme, but did have one positive test, they said false positive, but who knows if that means anything, and if so, what. It sounds like you have been doing your homework. I guess I can tell you what I have read, but I have not nebulized myself. On Jun 22, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer research suggestions about these methods as well as using cayenne pepper. Are nebulizers best for bronchial and lung issues only or can they used to improve delivery to all body sites? bronchial and lungs, probably, but your mileage may vary. Can one safely nebulize a mixture of H2O2 and CS, and if so, what would be the best ratio for this? I definitely would not do that, but if you feel like it, it's your body. I have only seen reference to people here using H2O2 in small amounts to break up any slightly larger particles that might have formed, so there is more uniformity and tininess (is that even a word?). If DMSO were to be added to this protocol how would this look on paper? I have seen recipes for adding DMSO to ionic silver water for eyedrops or other specific applications to carry the silver deeper into the tissues. I do not recall the amount used, but it was small. Also, what about using the CS in enemas or in colonic implants as a means of delivery improvement? That might make sense for killing things residing in the colon. Do these methods really excede sublingual doses in effectiveness? LOL ??? who knows? Do any of these methods approach the delivery capability and effectiveness of IVs? I have not heard anyone talking about using cs as an IV fluid, recently. It may have been discussed, but I do not remember it. If nebulizing, is an oxygen-nebulizer really the best and safest way to go or can a cheaper nebulizer perform well enough without using tanks of O2? Most seem to use a nebulizer without O2, or even a spray bottle. I have sprayed it into a plastic bag and inhaled it, and that worked. After I tried that, I bought a cold mist humidifier to use, but have not a reason yet, so I have not tried it. Rather than using Gatorade could an electrolye product like Concentrace or BioPure Matrix Electrolye be used to enhance delivery? I guess you could use whatever you want. The Gatorade has a balance of sodium and potassium, also a little sugar (now corn syrup, which I will not drink). There are other equivalent electrolyte replacement formulas on the market, or you could make your own using salt and NuSalt, which is potassium. I am hopefull that someone can help me out here and point my research in the right direction. Thanks, Blessings, Peter you are welcome, I am not sure I was any help, but there you are. Take care, and good luck with the lyme. Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to:
Re: CSenlarged thyroid
Could this be a goiter? Paula - Original Message - From: G Murray healthl...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: CSenlarged thyroid Looking for information on enlarged thyroid. No other real symptoms other than a sore throat. It is now quite swollen. No seating or hot flashes or being cold Thanks, G -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdrinking water
Very interesting, Sergey! What else have you read in the Soviet literature that we might use? Rowena
Re: CSenlarged thyroid
You could try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/ www.drrind.com http://www.cureresearch.com/g/graves_disease/symptoms.htm Rowena - Looking for information on enlarged thyroid. No other real symptoms other than a sore throat. It is now quite swollen. No seating or hot flashes or being cold
Re: CSParkinson's
I have read recently that Ashwagandha is good for this sort of thing and actually seems to get the dendrons to grow, i.e. replaced worn out brain cells, so to speak. Well worth researching. If as we read recently even diabetes is beginning to be seen as being caused by germs, who knows what will be next, and CS can only help. rowena Dee- They are calling Parkinson's an autoimmune disease now too. I remember someone claiming CS cured their MS, so perhaps it would work for Parkinson's as well. Has anyone experienced this? Nancy
Re: CSBlood vessel health
Thank you Sharon, I will look all these up. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Starshar Date: 06/24/08 04:05:26 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health A very big help would also be Rutin, which comes from buckwheat. It is in the bioflavinoid family and will really tone up blood vessels. And consider anything that is recommended for varicose veins---same idea. Horsechestnut products are sold for this. The mineral, silica, is also excellent for blood vessels. Sharon M
Re: CSenlarged thyroid
It wouldn't be glandular fever would it? Or Epstein Barr as someone pointed out? I had a swollen gland (my face swelled out to epic proportions) and I swallowed CS every ten minutes or so, and in two hours all that was left was a slight tenderness; by morning all was gone. Dee ---Original Message--- From: G Murray Date: 24/06/2008 03:25:33 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSenlarged thyroid Looking for information on enlarged thyroid. No other real symptoms other than a sore throat. It is now quite swollen. No seating or hot flashes or being cold Thanks, G
Re: CSBlood vessel health
Well I was told that Vit C would also strengthen blood vessels but as I said this only seemed to make things worse. I have no idea why, other than it is a natural blood thinner and maybe this caused leakage in a weakened area. I believe the vit c I used had added bioflavinoids. Thanks for input. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Paula Perry Date: 24/06/2008 01:21:24 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health To strengthen blood vessels you need bioflavinoids. You can google it. Paula
Re: CSParkinson's
I think all these things are caused by the rubbish put in and *on* food! There just seems so much *more* of everything around these days than there ever were when I was young. My gran lived to be a 101 and she spent her life until she was eighty, growing her own food. Dee ---Original Message--- Dee- They are calling Parkinson's an autoimmune disease now too. I remember someone claiming CS cured their MS, so perhaps it would work for Parkinson's as well. Has anyone experienced this? Nancy
Re: CSBlood vessel health
This sounds just the thing Rowena! I believe this is what it is, because aspirin had the same effect, and I heard the alarm bells and told him to stop taking it, long before the doctor came to the same conclusion. Thanks for this. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Rowena Date: 24/06/2008 08:57:02 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health I would have confidence in homeopathic remedies here - I'd feel better consulting a homeopath about this one rather than trying to work it out privately. Heel are sure to have a good remedy. Rowena
CS220 Sulphur Dioxide in goji berries
DH was struck down today with a migraine, most unexpectedly. Quite convinced that it was a small handful of goji berries he ate yesterday, but puzzled, as he has had them before without incident. I looked at the label - Preservative 220, sulphur dioxide - bad for people with asthma and migraines, apparently. The previous goji berries were certified organic; the others were some I ordered online from a mostly health food source. What a shame! If I soak these before using, do you think I will be able to get rid of some/most/all of the 220 preservative? Rowena
Re: CSBlood vessel health
Thanks so much for this, this is really helpful! I guess I have a lot of Googling to do! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Tad Winiecki Date: 23/06/2008 23:23:43 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:30 AM, Dee wrote: Can anyone tell me the best protocol for strengthening weak blood vessels please. My husband suffers from bleeds into the eye a lot and I am worried because there is a weakness in his family for this (two died of it) he started 1200mgs of vit C the other day, and almost immediately, had a bleed in the eye, Here are some former posts about eyedrops for the eyes.
Re: CSBlood vessel health
I did do this when it first happened, and indeed, the doctors called it transient ischemic attack' but a lot of the symptoms didn't fit i.e. He didn t lose consciousness or even nearly, and also, the treatment (aspirin) had an adverse effect. This is why I don't think it is caused by clots, but by weak blood vessel walls. Thank you for your input. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Faith Gagne Date: 23/06/2008 21:58:11 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health Falling over with no warning sounds like syncope and that could be caused by a number of things which Google could probably enumerate.Faith G. - Original Message -
Re: CS220 Sulphur Dioxide in goji berries
I read somewhere that migraine can be caused by magnesium deficiency. I think it was in one of the Brooks Bradley emails. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Rowena Date: 24/06/2008 11:00:26 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS220 Sulphur Dioxide in goji berries DH was struck down today with a migraine, most unexpectedly. Quite convinced that it was a small handful of goji berries he ate yesterday, but puzzled, as he has had them before without incident. I looked at the label - Preservative 220, sulphur dioxide - bad for people with asthma and migraines, apparently. The previous goji berries were certified organic; the others were some I ordered online from a mostly health food source. What a shame! If I soak these before using, do you think I will be able to get rid of some/most/all of the 220 preservative? Rowena
Re: CSBlood vessel health
I have looked this up Sharon, and it really looks like the way to go and I am going to order some Super Rutin now. Many thanks again. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Starshar Date: 24/06/2008 04:05:26 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health A very big help would also be Rutin, which comes from buckwheat. It is in the bioflavinoid family and will really tone up blood vessels. And consider anything that is recommended for varicose veins---same idea. Horsechestnut products are sold for this. The mineral, silica, is also excellent for blood vessels. Sharon M
Re: CSBlood vessel health
I've looked this up Paula and this does seem the way to go. Instead of using Vit C I am going to order some Rutin which is as you say, a bioflavonoid and as I found out although usually used in conjunction with Vit C is actually separate. Many thanks. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Paula Perry Date: 24/06/2008 01:21:24 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health To strengthen blood vessels you need bioflavinoids. You can google it. Paula - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health
Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn
There is Vit C, and then there is rubbish. Too much of the Rubbish is garbage, and bad for you garbage at that. Daddybob can tell us about Rubbish marketed as Vit C. He even found some with mold growing on it. Also, a lot of it is made from Corn. Willisprotocols group publilshed this website today: http://commongroundmag.com/2008/05/healthyliving0805.html the ubiquity of corn in the American diet Even Xanthan gum in some coconut milk (corn). Rowena - Well I was told that Vit C would also strengthen blood vessels but as I said, this only seemed to make things worse. I have no idea why, other than it is a natural blood thinner and maybe this caused leakage in a weakened area. I believe the vit c I used had added bioflavinoids. Thanks for input. Dee
Re: CSBlood vessel health
I have a recipe for buckwheat pancakes that I like very much. Unfortunately the buckwheat does not seem to like me. Buckwheat is supposed to be good for the skin too. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:34 AM Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health I have looked this up Sharon, and it really looks like the way to go and I am going to order some Super Rutin now. Many thanks again. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Starshar Date: 24/06/2008 04:05:26 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health A very big help would also be Rutin, which comes from buckwheat. It is in the bioflavinoid family and will really tone up blood vessels. And consider anything that is recommended for varicose veins---same idea. Horsechestnut products are sold for this. The mineral, silica, is also excellent for blood vessels. Sharon M
Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn
Oh dear, I thought Wayne said that Vit C *was* Vit C no matter what type it was! I get mine from Higher Nature which I thought was a good brand. I know that when my husband was having their True Food type, we didn't have any problems, but as soon as I gave him the 1000mg one with lysine, he had a bleed in the eye. Back to the drawing board I suppose. I have found a bioflavonoid in the cupboard though, that I bought a while ago. It is grapeseed extract which is supposed to be good for this condition. Any views? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Rowena Date: 06/24/08 12:25:51 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn There is Vit C, and then there is rubbish. Too much of the Rubbish is garbage, and bad for you garbage at that. Daddybob can tell us about Rubbish marketed as Vit C. He even found some with mold growing on it. Also, a lot of it is made from Corn. Willisprotocols group publilshed this website today: http://commongroundmag com/2008/05/healthyliving0805.html the ubiquity of corn in the American diet Even Xanthan gum in some coconut milk (corn).
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RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
I use a 4 x 6 flat silver electrode and a non-silver cathode, so I can't polarity switch. There does seem to be a lot of buildup on the cathodes either because of water quality, or the fact that I may be pushing the amperage a bit... Dan -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson On Jun 23, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Dan Nave wrote: The thing is, if you have the unit that has polarity reversing, you don't have to clean the electrodes. Just pour the newly made CS into a storage container, add more Distilled Water, and start up again. What could be simpler? I personally like the stronger CS that the Silver Puppy makes. The 5 ppm of the other unit which was referred to seems like the minimum that would be acceptable. Making CS directly in the gallon distilled water container is a great idea though. I personally would like to be able to select the final ppm which is why I made my own unit, it doesn't have polarity switching which is a pain, but it does make about a gallon of 15 to 20 ppm CS in about 3 hours with the current limit set at 15 ma. geez, dude, how big are your electrodes? At one mA pre square inch, that is a lot of silver. I just hook up my electrodes in the opposite pole each batch. Seems to work for me, I don't clean them either. kathryn Dan From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver- marshall
Clayton Family wrote: would a silver pulsar by Sota work for the zapping? If I remember right, the Sota silver pulsar is also a zapper. If so, then yes it would. next question- does the ozonated water cause any mental symptoms when it is killing the brain bugs? I have not heard of any, I found it somewhat energizing when I used it, but then I did not have a chronic illness at that time. I assume one needs to do other things to help the body get rid of the dead spirochetes. It is always good advise to drink lots of water. Does the MMS kill lyme too? Not sure. I have not heard any great results with it, but have not been following that very closely either. Marshall thanks Marshall, kathryn On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Could you explain what you mean when you say you will need to use all 4 (including Cs) to get complete relief from lyme. I mean use all 4 of the things I mentioned: 1. CS, for extended killing 2. Zapping, for immediate killing in the blood, and organs 3. Ozonated Water, for killing in the nerve ganglia and brain, and other hiding places 4. Magnetic Pulsing, for killing in the lymph system, and maybe the joints Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO
Dear Peter: It looks like you have been fighting Lyme for quite some time. If you read Bryan's book then you know that the Doug Coil Machine is the most powerful tool out there. Also you probably read that many protocols and machines must be combined. What is not generally stated is that some types of machines loose their effectiveness and a different machine needs to be purchased. I based my design on Doug MacLean's work with the Doug Coil Machine. I worked with Doug for over a year and he would call Carol every few weeks to monitor her progress. He was concerned that the capacitor coupling may not be as powerful as the coil inductive coupling. I only have data on one test subject, that is Carol, but it seems like it took 6 months for her to be 90% recovered and about one year to be 100%. The only thing we used was the DougPlus and ionic colloidal silver. Doug MacLean states that it takes 2 to 3 years to recover from Lyme using the Doug Coil Machine. I have three machines being tested and the reports I am getting are very encouraging. It seems like the DougPlus produces herx reaction where other machines have ceased to be effective. One customer has a $6000 PERL machine that was very effective but no longer does the trick. He is using MesoSilver and the DougPlus and calls to tell me that he is feeling good. If you would like to try the DougPlus, I give a 30 day money back, less shipping. You will know whether it works within a few days. Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:p...@vif.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:11 AM To: Jim Meissner yahoo Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Hi Jim, Kathryn, Marshall, Dee and anyone else who has chimed in with help regarding Lyme Disease. I appreciate it very much! I have purchased a GB4000 Rife machine, have a coil-type Rife machine on order, have been doing the Salt/C protocol for 16 months, tried Meso Silver for a couple months and have just invested in a Silver Puppy as well. Marshall has suggested ozonated water and magnetic pulsing--thanks for those tips Marshall. Can anyone suggest a good but inexpensive way to make the ozonated water? I am looking into mag pulsing also with Robb Allen's High Power Magnetic Pulser, as recommended by Bryan Rosner from www.lymebook.comand also looking at MMS. Jim, maybe we could talk some more about your Dougplus...looks interesting. Blessings to you all, Peter Converse - Original Message - From: Jim Meissner yahoo jpmeiss...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:51 AM Subject: RE: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Dear Peter: Kathryn has done an excellent job of answering your questions. I will add my two cents. I do not have Lyme, but a friend of mine had it and I helped develop a system that got rid of it. Please take a look at http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus So far as I know, normal ionic colloidal silver by itself will not be useful in dealing with the Lyme spirochetes. Once you kill the spirochetes and have serious herx reactions then colloidal silver will be of great benefit. My friend Carol consumed as much as 32 ounces a day to help to deal with secondary infections and the fever and chills caused by the dead spirochetes. There is another product called MesoSilver made by Frank Key that is mostly extremely small particles and very little ionic and there is some information that this type of colloidal silver may be effective for Lyme. http://www.colloidal-silver-colloids.com/1568940264asf589d516d3615d746afdfaf d/lym5813.htm There is a yahoo group that you might want to visit that deals mostly with Lyme. lyme-and-r...@yahoogroups.com Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver, Nebulizers, Gatorade, DMSO Hi Peter, Welcome to the group. I am not official in any way, so this is an unofficial welcoming message. ;-) You have so many questions, I am not sure anyone has the answers for many of them. I don't think I have lyme, but did have one positive test, they said false positive, but who knows if that means anything, and if so, what. It sounds like you have been doing your homework. I guess I can tell you what I have read, but I have not nebulized myself. On Jun 22, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Peter Converse wrote: Hi all, I am pretty new to the group. I am dealing with Lyme Disease and looking for ways to improve delivery of CS into the deeper areas of the body where Lyme spirochetes and cysts hide out. I have seen mention of Gatorade, DMSO and H2O2 being used to improve penetration and have seen that nebulizers have been used to get CS into the bloodstream via the lungs. I would appreciate it if anyone could offer
Re: CSParkinson's
I believe that any autoimmune disease should respond somewhat favorably to a protocol that kills any pathogens which might be triggering the response, followed by resetting the immune system, then rebuilding. For those specifically I would try CS, CMO and omega 3 oils (flax seed, or hemp seed oil). Marshall Tad Winiecki wrote: On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:20 AM, Dee wrote: I did remember reading something about CS curing MS in a person. Is this a similar thing? Unfortunately, owing to my rubbish filing system, I can't find it! Dee Dee- They are calling Parkinson's an autoimmune disease now too. I remember someone claiming CS cured their MS, so perhaps it would work for Parkinson's as well. Has anyone experienced this? Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAny experience here with kidney cancer and CS?
A friend with a slow-growing kidney cancer (age 70) cannot have the usual treatments because of bad lungs. Is there any experience or knowledge on this list? Judy Down Maine __ Vero Possumus
CSfloaters
Hi I was wondering if I could get the whole formulae to get rid of floaters. The amounts of CS Dr. Christophers and MS. This would be a big help -:) Michelle
CSEnlarged Thyroid
Hi G May I suggest that you go to an Endocrinologist, an excellent one at that. He/she will order up a thyroid panel and an ultra-sound. Both will provide indications as to what is happening with your thyroid. Could be you just need thyroid meds. Could be something else, so don't wait to get these simple and painless tests. Sore throat means take it seriously and 'do it now.' If you wish to know more, you can e-mail me privately. Been there. S-Max From: G Murray Date: 6/23/2008 7:25:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSenlarged thyroid Looking for information on enlarged thyroid. No other real symptoms other than a sore throat. It is now quite swollen. No seating or hot flashes or being cold Thanks, G -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdrinking water
- Original Message - From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: Re: CSdrinking water Very interesting, Sergey! What else have you read in the Soviet literature that we might use? Rowena Hello Rowena, That particular Soviet times book I mentioned in my post is likely not the kind of book people are accustomed to nowadays. In spite of talking in an interesting and entertaining way about water and other physiology related things the author never suggested directly or otherwise to actually use that information the way I did. Today the subject of alternative medicine is extremely popular in the Russian speaking part of the world. The number of publications in various media on its many aspects is about as high as in English. The only thing that I could recall off the top of my head that could be useful and I do not remember reading about in English is, translated literally, Dorohov's antiseptic stimulator. It is a concoction brewed from discarded animal bones. Those who used it say it smells really awful. Even though I heard about it almost working miracles and I could benefit from it, based on that information, I never got to opening the bottle that I had. It is said to be a modulator. In other words all it does is bring life processes to normal. But if I find something interesting that I use myself I'll post about it here. Sergey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn
So... You've been giving him C without problem, Then C with Lysine and a problem develops, And you conclude C is what did it? Wouldn't be MY logic... Chuck Doc, I can't stop singing 'The green, green grass of home.' That sounds like Tom Jones syndrome. Is it common? It's not unusual. On 6/24/2008 9:08:14 AM, Dee (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Oh dear, I thought Wayne said that Vit C *was* Vit C no matter what type it was! I get mine from Higher Nature which I thought was a good brand. I know that when my husband was having their True Food type, we didn't have any problems, but as soon as I gave him the 1000mg one with lysine, he had a bleed in the eye. Back to the drawing board I suppose. I have found a bioflavonoid in the cupboard though, that I bought a while ago. It is grapeseed extract which is supposed to be good for this condition. Any views? Dee ---Original Message--- % No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:16 PM
Re: CSHigh Current Mud
Both Trem and I determined independently with a lot of experimenting that the maximum ideal current density is around 1 milliamp per square inch of electrode. I've been able to go up to 2 mills with good stirring and water, but 3 almost never works well. More, and a yellow to amber batch becomes more likely at lower silver concentrations. A lot more and emulsified black/ brown mud is a near certainty at any real concentration. Ode At 11:09 AM 6/22/2008 -0500, you wrote: Morning Ode, At 09:41 AM 6/22/2008, you wrote: can be done faster with very little silver, but making mud becomes more likely at such high currents. Can you be more specific and define high current. Maybe low current also, if you will. High and low are not very specific. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1514 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:17 AM
RE: CSBatch Size Limitation
Look again, I did reply. Ode At 11:16 AM 6/22/2008 -0500, you wrote: Can you make more that 2 cups with the silver puppy at a time. I have tried to get in touch with Ode but no reply. Mary Ellen -- From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:49 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSBatch Size Limitation Morning Faith, At 07:53 AM 6/22/2008, you wrote: That was my objection to the silver puppy...it takes so long. The generator I have now takes 3 hours to make one quart. I could have gotten a generator that makes a gallon but a quart is enough. Faith G. I do not understand what creates the batch size limitation. I can make a 4 ounce batch, 8, 16, or 32 ounce batch, and one gallon also. No doubt I could make a 2 gallon batch or even a 5 gallon batch. Maybe you can explain it. What would happen if you put the unit on a one gallon jug ? Wayne No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1514 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:17 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn
Yes but the C he was first having was in a food form and 'bio transformed' by a culture of Saccharomyces cerevisia. The second form was just ascorbic acid, but you may well be right about the lysine. It is just that other forms of blood thinners, for want of a better word, seem to have the same effect. Dee ---Original Message--- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Date: 24/06/2008 18:39:04 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn So... You've been giving him C without problem, Then C with Lysine and a problem develops, And you conclude C is what did it? Wouldn't be MY logic...
Re: CSenlarged thyroid - Lewis Ford download
http://www.lewisford.info/files/The_Basic_Program_from_Feeling_Young_and_In_Love3.pdf is a pdf document which has information about Thyroid and iodine as well as a lot of other subjects. 124 pages set out in the paper saving mode I favour. I found it in a link from the website http://www.iodine4health.com/overviews/uses/ford_uses.htm Quote and mention in despatches: If you are ... ever unfortunate enough to develop shingles, the best supplements for treating it are the same supplements that best suppress and control the herpes 1 and 2 viruses. That includes Lysine, dairy products, Iodide, Progesterone, Thyroid Tissue, Thymus Tissue, Mild Silver Protein solutions, Colloidal Silver, and/or St. John's Wort. http://www.iodine4health.com/overviews/uses/ryan_drum.htm had info on Thyroid function, dysfunction and disease. Links to page http://www.ryandrum.com/thyroid1.html which says Unlike Hashimoto's hypothyroiditis, Graves' disease seems very amenable to successful herbal intervention and control. The three main herbs used are: Melissa officinalis (lemon balm), Lycopus virginiana (bugleweed) and Leonuris cardiaca(motherwort) in descending order of strength and apparent thyrosuppressive efficacy. http://www.ryandrum.com/thyroidpart1.htm says 11. There is an especially vicious class of endocrine disrupters that have become ubiquitous in our human environment. These substances have been used to improve our lives. They are: flame retardants, resorcinol-based glues, and MBTE gasoline additive s used to boost octane after tetra-ethyl lead was banned. The flame retardants, Poly-bromated di-ethyl ethers, PBDE's, were mandated for children's pajamas, bedding, stuffed toys, etc.; they are also in motel/hotel bedding, curtains, carpeting (all wall-to-wall), and upholstered furniture. They are present in all water, soil, and air. They are especially concentrated in mammalian milk, in particular human mothers' milk. They are thyrodisruptive and pass transdermally from clothing into infants and children. It is the regular 8-12 hour constant contact with a child's epidermis which allows the unavoidable slow accumulation of PBDE's. ... Resorcinal, Dihydroxybenzene, has been used therapeutically as an alleged starting molecule for catechols. Industrially, it is used in the production of Rayon and Nylon, and the superb resorcinol/formaldehyde glues, particularly in plywood, chipboard, and sawdust composites for fake wood furniture. As these products are abraided,scuffed, cut, or broken, tiny amounts or resorcinol polymer dust particles are released into our living spaces and are inhaled, where they rest on mucous membrane surfaces where nano amounts are continually absorbed and may be thyrodisruptive. ... . The effects of resorcinol on human thyroids is still being investigated. I believe these resorcinol-sourced particles may be a significant factor in the increasing thyroid epidemic, particularly in the countries where the most resorcinol has been used. Gasoline additives are being breathed by all of us. Many are thyrodisruptive. http://www.ryandrum.com/thyroidpart2.htm said: There is increasing evidence that the unshielded thyroid gland is susceptible to longterm developmental damage and disease subsequent to one exposure to diagnostic dental or chest X-Rays and perhaps CAT scans And http://www.iodine4health.com/overviews/uses/panam_uses.htm says 24. Vegan gas. reducing the gas from eating beans! Macrobioticists have know for years that cooking beans with seaweed reduces bean flatus. If you're soaking beans before cooking them, add 1 or 2 drops of Lugol's, and let them soak for an hour or more. Pour offf that water before cooking, and add fresh water. You'll be surprised at the reduction in resulting intestinal gas! (Technical explanation: There's a naturally occurring enzyme inhibitor in beans which interferes with starch digestion in the gut, producing gas. Lugol's inactivates this enzyme inhibitor.) Looking for information on enlarged thyroid. No other real symptoms other than a sore throat. It is now quite swollen. No sweating or hot flashes or being cold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAny experience here with kidney cancer and CS?
I don't know if this could help. (www.royalrife.com/cancer.HTML) Dee ---Original Message--- From: Judy Knowlton Date: 24/06/2008 16:10:18 To: Silver list Subject: CSAny experience here with kidney cancer and CS? A friend with a slow-growing kidney cancer (age 70) cannot have the usual treatments because of bad lungs. Is there any experience or knowledge on this list? Judy Down Maine __ Vero Possumus
RE: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver- marshall
I have info that the termmintor zapper from Wolf Creek Ranch that supplies the diamatateous earth. Is very good. Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH2O2 and Colloidal Silver- marshall Clayton Family wrote: would a silver pulsar by Sota work for the zapping? If I remember right, the Sota silver pulsar is also a zapper. If so, then yes it would. next question- does the ozonated water cause any mental symptoms when it is killing the brain bugs? I have not heard of any, I found it somewhat energizing when I used it, but then I did not have a chronic illness at that time. I assume one needs to do other things to help the body get rid of the dead spirochetes. It is always good advise to drink lots of water. Does the MMS kill lyme too? Not sure. I have not heard any great results with it, but have not been following that very closely either. Marshall thanks Marshall, kathryn On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Could you explain what you mean when you say you will need to use all 4 (including Cs) to get complete relief from lyme. I mean use all 4 of the things I mentioned: 1. CS, for extended killing 2. Zapping, for immediate killing in the blood, and organs 3. Ozonated Water, for killing in the nerve ganglia and brain, and other hiding places 4. Magnetic Pulsing, for killing in the lymph system, and maybe the joints Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS colour
I made a new batch of EIS the other day and used a fresh bottle of DW (got from the same place at a different time as the first one) and two days later two different bottles have gone yellow! I am brewing a new batch and will put them in the same bottles (rinsed with DW) and see what happens. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS colour
A aupply of mine is yellow too. Does that mean it is bad Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS colour I made a new batch of EIS the other day and used a fresh bottle of DW (got from the same place at a different time as the first one) and two days later two different bottles have gone yellow! I am brewing a new batch and will put them in the same bottles (rinsed with DW) and see what happens. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOzonated Water , DMSO CS , Mag Pulsers , Dougplus
Hi all, Thanks so much for the answers that you have provided to my questions. I really appreciate the great feedback in this group! Marshall suggested looking into ozonated water to hit places in the body where Borrelia spirochetes hide but may be unreachable by other means. Any suggestions for ozone equipment and/or methodology ? Does anyone have a ratio for DMSO : CS that they have found successful ? I am looking into Rife machines and mag pulsers. Does anyone here have any experience with Robb Allen's High Power Magnetic Pulser ? Jim, your Dougplus looks interesting. Could we talk about this on personal email ? Sorry for the multitude of questions but Lyme has a way of creating either a sense of despair or urgency, sometimes a mixture of both. Blessings, Peter
Re: CSCS colour
No, it's fine. R A aupply of mine is yellow too. Does that mean it is bad Mary Ellen
Re: CSAny experience here with kidney cancer and CS?
A friend here had a vicious kidney cancer said to be caused by petrochemicals (he worked in a garage) that was the worst kind, and incurable, and would kill him in a few months. The kidney was removed very soon after the cancer was discovered. It spread to his lung, and he had some cut out, which was apparently the worst part of any of his illness. I made CS for him until they bought their own generator. (His wife had heard that yellow CS was best, so I processed it for ages until it was yellow enough for them! Eventually they heard different so I could just make it as I normally would.) He also changed his diet, followed Hulda Clark to the best of his ability, and had his blood oxygenated regularly. The clinic hooked him up in a continuous mode to the bag where the oxygen was infused through his blood, then it was put straight back in his body without being taken away from the body to another room. I think this would cause the least possible damage to cells and the electromagnetic connections and meant the blood was away from his veins the least possible amount of time. The cells start to die remarkably quickly away from the body and become useless rubbish that won't carry oxygen, so negating the oxygen effect to some degree, in my surmising. Anyway, eventually he got tired, as it was all a lot of work. He entered a trial of a particular drug going on, also had radiotherapy. The radiotherapy burnt his intestines so he was in agony. Eventually they consented to operate, and took part of it out. He was doing well, joking with the nurses, expecting to go home, and suddenly he died. Blood clot. From the operation. There was no cancer in his body, just the damage from radiotherapy. As far as the drug trials went, he survived longer than any of the other people on it. He was the only one who had not had a blood transfusion. He survived two years beyond prediction, as I recall. Rowena - Original Message - From: Judy Knowlton To: Silver list Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:09 PM Subject: CSAny experience here with kidney cancer and CS? A friend with a slow-growing kidney cancer (age 70) cannot have the usual treatments because of bad lungs. Is there any experience or knowledge on this list? Judy Down Maine __ Vero Possumus
Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn
Well Back in the seventies, it was Linus Pauling's Vitamin C and the Common Cold that started me into becoming a megavitamin freak. In all the time since, I've never heard of C being a blood thinner, and because I have a heart condition, I am vitally interested in blood thinners (desirable in my case). C and the bioflavenoids strengthen tissue. A specific for bleeding gums. C is a specific for scurvy, which sounds like the symptoms you describe. C has alway been a major cornerstone of my personal health regimen. I take 8 to 16 grams daily. I have never differentiated as to type, I take plain ascorbic acid. I look upon those that prefer non-corn sources or other C preparations as nitpickers with money to spare, as my experience doesn't justify it. But it all comes down to self experimentation. YMMV Chuck Two antennae's meet on a roof, fall in love get married. The ceremony wasn't much but the reception was brilliant. On 6/24/2008 2:15:36 PM, Dee (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Yes but the C he was first having was in a food form and 'bio transformed' by a culture of Saccharomyces cerevisia. The second form was just ascorbic acid, but you may well be right about the lysine. It is just that other forms of blood thinners, for want of a better word, seem to have the same effect. Dee ---Original Message--- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Date: 24/06/2008 18:39:04 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn So... You've been giving him C without problem, Then C with Lysine and a problem develops, And you conclude C is what did it? Wouldn't be MY logic... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:16 PM
RE: CSCS colour
No, it's not bad. Yellow was once a desireable goal. Since then, it has been found that clear is even better, but what you have is perfectly good to use. Chuck Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: Does this taste funny to you? On 6/24/2008 2:36:38 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy (maryelle...@bellsouth.net) wrote: A aupply of mine is yellow too. Does that mean it is bad Mary Ellen No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:16 PM
RE: CSfloaters
Does anybody know about this. Thanks Mary Ellen _ From: michelle hamel [mailto:mham...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:28 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSfloaters Hi I was wondering if I could get the whole formulae to get rid of floaters. The amounts of CS Dr. Christophers and MS. This would be a big help -:) Michelle
Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn
You are probably right Chuck, and the Vit C - lysine thing was supposed to be Linus Paulings recommended protocol. I suppose it is the old adage i.e. What suits one, will not suit another. Dee ---Original Message--- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Date: 24/06/2008 20:10:29 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn Well Back in the seventies, it was Linus Pauling's Vitamin C and the Common Cold that started me into becoming a megavitamin freak. In all the time since, I've never heard of C being a blood thinner, and because I have a heart condition, I am vitally interested in blood thinners (desirable in my case). C and the bioflavenoids strengthen tissue. A specific for bleeding gums. C is a specific for scurvy, which sounds like the symptoms you describe. C has alway been a major cornerstone of my personal health regimen. I take 8 to 16 grams daily. I have never differentiated as to type, I take plain ascorbic acid. I look upon those that prefer non-corn sources or other C preparations as nitpickers with money to spare, as my experience doesn't justify it. But it all comes down to self experimentation. YMMV Chuck Two antennae's meet on a roof, fall in love get married. The ceremony wasn't much but the reception was brilliant.
Re: CSCS colour
I was advised not to ingest it if it turned yellow. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 2:36 PM Subject: RE: CSCS colour A aupply of mine is yellow too. Does that mean it is bad Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS colour I made a new batch of EIS the other day and used a fresh bottle of DW (got from the same place at a different time as the first one) and two days later two different bottles have gone yellow! I am brewing a new batch and will put them in the same bottles (rinsed with DW) and see what happens. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAny experience here with kidney cancer and CS?
On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:09 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote: A friend with a slow-growing kidney cancer (age 70) cannot have the usual treatments because of bad lungs. Is there any experience or knowledge on this list? Judy Down Maine Here are some links you might research for a good anti-cancer diet and various alternative treatments. Also a testimony from the cancercured forum about LDN. Nancy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlaxSeedOil2/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_cancer/ http://www.ldn4cancer.com/ http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/ http://www.webspawner.com/users/ldnforcancer/index.html http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cancercured/ 4) http://cancertutor.com 5) http://survivecancerfoundation.org http://alternativecancer.us/index.htm#Table http://www.bulk-essiac-tea.com/ http://www.papayaleavesforcancer.com/files/leafebook.pdf From: wezzie1...@. Subject:[cancercured] Hi Everyone! Date: April 14, 2008 2:32:08 AM PDT Hi everyone. I've just joined your group and am also a member of the group 'LDN_4_cancer' I was diagnosed as having renal cell carcinoma (kidney cancer) in late 2005 and underwent a radical nephrectomy to remove my right kidney a couple of weeks later. A year later,surprise surprise, I was informed that my cancer had 'returned'. To cut a long story short, while my oncologist procrastinated about the kind of mustard gas he wanted to test fly on me, I entered into a steep learning curve about 'alternative' treatments, made the necessary leap of faith and started taking LDN in July of last year, a decision I have had no cause to regret! The reason I have joined this group is to open my mind up to other alternatives. I am totally 'sold' on LDN and will take it for the rest of my life, but I feel it would be foolish to believe that this is the end of all my cancer concerns, I'm sure we all understand cancers potential to 'cloak' its activities and I therefore fully intend to become conversant in as many treatments as possible. I hope you will welcome my input as much as I shall yours! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAny experience here with kidney cancer and CS?
Hi Nancy. And what is LDN? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:27 PM Subject: Re: CSAny experience here with kidney cancer and CS? On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:09 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote: A friend with a slow-growing kidney cancer (age 70) cannot have the usual treatments because of bad lungs. Is there any experience or knowledge on this list? Judy Down Maine Here are some links you might research for a good anti-cancer diet and various alternative treatments. Also a testimony from the cancercured forum about LDN. Nancy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlaxSeedOil2/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_cancer/ http://www.ldn4cancer.com/ http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/ http://www.webspawner.com/users/ldnforcancer/index.html http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cancercured/ 4) http://cancertutor.com 5) http://survivecancerfoundation.org http://alternativecancer.us/index.htm#Table http://www.bulk-essiac-tea.com/ http://www.papayaleavesforcancer.com/files/leafebook.pdf From: wezzie1...@. Subject: [cancercured] Hi Everyone! Date: April 14, 2008 2:32:08 AM PDT Hi everyone. I've just joined your group and am also a member of the group 'LDN_4_cancer' I was diagnosed as having renal cell carcinoma (kidney cancer) in late 2005 and underwent a radical nephrectomy to remove my right kidney a couple of weeks later. A year later,surprise surprise, I was informed that my cancer had 'returned'. To cut a long story short, while my oncologist procrastinated about the kind of mustard gas he wanted to test fly on me, I entered into a steep learning curve about 'alternative' treatments, made the necessary leap of faith and started taking LDN in July of last year, a decision I have had no cause to regret! The reason I have joined this group is to open my mind up to other alternatives. I am totally 'sold' on LDN and will take it for the rest of my life, but I feel it would be foolish to believe that this is the end of all my cancer concerns, I'm sure we all understand cancers potential to 'cloak' its activities and I therefore fully intend to become conversant in as many treatments as possible. I hope you will welcome my input as much as I shall yours! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS colour
The one you buy in Holland and Barrett is yellow anyway, and that is only 3ppm, but I understood pale yellow is ok, only other colours i.e. Red, purple etc., are bad. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Faith Gagne Date: 24/06/2008 22:27:36 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour I was advised not to ingest it if it turned yellow. Faith G.
Re: CSCS colour
Mine is crystal clear and I guess that is what I prefer. You have to wonder why they make yellow instead of clear. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: Re: CSCS colour The one you buy in Holland and Barrett is yellow anyway, and that is only 3ppm, but I understood pale yellow is ok, only other colours i.e. Red, purple etc., are bad. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Faith Gagne Date: 24/06/2008 22:27:36 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour I was advised not to ingest it if it turned yellow. Faith G.
Re: CSCS colour
I would prefer mine to be clear and the first couple of batches were. I am puzzled as to why these aren't. It has to be the water I suppose, or something that's got into the water. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Faith Gagne Date: 24/06/2008 22:37:53 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour Mine is crystal clear and I guess that is what I prefer. You have to wonder why they make yellow instead of clear. Faith G.
Re: CSfloaters
On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:27 AM, michelle hamel wrote: Hi I was wondering if I could get the whole formulae to get rid of floaters. The amounts of CS Dr. Christophers and MS. This would be a big help -:) Michelle I haven't used this but here is a former post, I cannot add any clarification- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Date: December 13, 2006 7:21:06 PM PST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: floaters in the eyes Not a real recipe, Peter. Using CS as the liquid, I dissolve a tsp of MSM in about an ounce of CS and add about 15 drops of the tincture. Put it in one of those 1 oz dropper containers that artificial tears come in. You pry the top off. Google for online Dr Christopher formulas or visit your health food store. The number of drops depends on how lucky the punk feels today (my first batch was 8 drops of the good Dr's mix). BTW, my floaters were like heavy cargo nets used in shipping. I feared they were going to take over! Been 4 or 5 years now and all is well. Chuck -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBlood vessel health - Vit C and corn
On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Dee wrote: Yes but the C he was first having was in a food form and 'bio transformed' by a culture of Saccharomyces cerevisia. The second form was just ascorbic acid, but you may well be right about the lysine. It is just that other forms of blood thinners, for want of a better word, seem to have the same effect. Dee It's possible to overlook the obvious. My husband had 2 eye hemorrhages. The first was when he was breaking up a concrete patio with a sledge hammer. He also took a capsule of 140,000 Cayenne pepper the same day. Which would you blame? The second bleed was when I was doing some heavy lifting and bending. He hasn't had another one for a long time. There are herb combinations like Dr. Christopher's formula and also ones with lutein, bilberry, etc. that can be taken internally. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS colour
I have found that my batch has a yellow tint if the time is to slow and the taste is usually bitter...in my case it was because the water was not that warm ...I find that 12 ppm with out a starter should take around 3 hrs with pre warmed distilled water ...also I use the same batch jar always ...for 3 years now ...and tap water to rinse will guaratee me a yellow batch ...even if it is wiped ..I always use alcohol to clean if I feel it necessary ...this may help someone ... - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:40 PM Subject: Re: CSCS colour I would prefer mine to be clear and the first couple of batches were. I am puzzled as to why these aren't. It has to be the water I suppose, or something that's got into the water. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Faith Gagne Date: 24/06/2008 22:37:53 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour Mine is crystal clear and I guess that is what I prefer. You have to wonder why they make yellow instead of clear. Faith G.
Re: CSCS colour
I did have that trouble with another generator and I couldn't figure it out either. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:40 PM Subject: Re: CSCS colour I would prefer mine to be clear and the first couple of batches were. I am puzzled as to why these aren't. It has to be the water I suppose, or something that's got into the water. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Faith Gagne Date: 24/06/2008 22:37:53 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS colour Mine is crystal clear and I guess that is what I prefer. You have to wonder why they make yellow instead of clear. Faith G.
Re: CSAny experience here with kidney cancer and CS?
On Jun 24, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Faith Gagne wrote: Hi Nancy. And what is LDN? Thanks. Faith G Here are websites where you can read about LDN, it is an off-label use of a prescription drug to boost the immune system by increasing secretion of endorphins in the body during sleep- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_cancer/ http://www.ldn4cancer.com/ http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/ http://www.webspawner.com/users/ldnforcancer/index.html Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS colour
On 6/24/2008 5:40:39 PM, Dee (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: I would prefer mine to be clear and the first couple of batches were. I am puzzled as to why these aren't. It has to be the water I suppose, or something that's got into the water. Dee I'd wager that you cleaned your container. That's the source of more contamination than any other thing. Chuck Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. One says, I've lost my electron. The other says, Are you sure? The first replies, Yes,I'm positive... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:16 PM
CSSkin blemishes
OK CS'ers -- here's a mystery. Last week I finished up a two-week round of antibiotics (doxycycline hyclate) which I took as a prophylactic response to being bitten by a Lyme tick. This week I am experiencing a rash of some type appearing on my upper fore-arms and the back of my hands. The rash consists of small red bumps -- like tiny blisters -- and they are continuing to manifest. They don't itch (well, maybe just a little bit, but negligible). The skin around them appears to be dry and flaky regardless of application of moisturizer. New bumps appear every day, the older ones don't appear to be going away. What the heck's going on with me Could this be a delayed reaction to the antibiotics? Anyone have any ideas? MA
CSRe: LDN Floaters MSM-CS Snoring silver-digest Digest V2008 #383
1. LDN In response to LDN ... low dose naltrexone I assume that this would be contra-indicated in those who are taking opiate or opioid medications for pain? Those with chronic pain conditions could find themselves in a world of hurt should LDN be sufficient to trigger acute abstinence syndrome. 2. Floaters ... You might try N-Acetyl-Carnosine eye drops. Quite effective for cataracts. 3. MSM - CS ... great combination for snoring. It works on me anyway. MSM is already patented for snoring ... I use a nasal mist sprayer ... one of those nice ones that come with the Source Naturals CS nasal spray. Just add MSM ... make sure it dissolves. best regards, JD Kalloco
Re: CSRe: LDN Floaters MSM-CS Snoring silver-digest Digest V2008 #383
Wow. thank you for that information. Faith G. - Original Message - From: JD Kalloco To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:01 PM Subject: CSRe: LDN Floaters MSM-CS Snoring silver-digest Digest V2008 #383 1. LDN In response to LDN ... low dose naltrexone I assume that this would be contra-indicated in those who are taking opiate or opioid medications for pain? Those with chronic pain conditions could find themselves in a world of hurt should LDN be sufficient to trigger acute abstinence syndrome. 2. Floaters ... You might try N-Acetyl-Carnosine eye drops. Quite effective for cataracts. 3. MSM - CS ... great combination for snoring. It works on me anyway. MSM is already patented for snoring ... I use a nasal mist sprayer ... one of those nice ones that come with the Source Naturals CS nasal spray. Just add MSM ... make sure it dissolves. best regards, JD Kalloco
CSfloaters
Hi Chuck, Thanks for the reply on your recipe for the elimination of floaters. I have a couple of questions for you 1. How many drops of this solution in each eye 2. How many times a day did you apply the solution 3. How long did it take for the floaters to leave 4. Lastly, how did you pick the quantity of 1 tsp. of MSM I appreciate your kind reply...It's nice to see clearly. -:) Michelle
Re: CSfloaters
I had severe eye floaters, so much so that I feared an onset of blindness. My ophthalmologist was not much help, other than explaining that they consisted of junk buildup due to poor drainage. I came across some MSM drops on the net that helped somewhat. Further research led me to Dr Christopher's eyewash formula that contains eyebright, cayenne and other stuff. It comes as a tincture. Eventually, I devised the formula that I've used for years now: In an ounce ofcolloidal silver, dissolve a teaspoon of MSM granuals. add a teaspoon of DMSO and 15 drops of Dr Christophers Eyebright formula. I use one or two drops in each eye daily. It stings a bit due to the cayenne, but that passes quickly. The improvements appeared within a few days. I picked a teapoon of MSM/per oz of base liquid to achieve a saturated solution or close to it. MSM will soften skin and tissue. I figured it would help the permeability of the eyeball to pass detritus. CS keeps everything sterile. DMSO helps the formula to penetrate. Christopher's drops do what they do. I never told my opthamologist about my drops. He's been wondering why my eyes have not deteriorated over the years. Chuck This tagline isn't really very witty and it runs on and on and you'd probably be much happier reading some other tagline. Most of them aren't half as depressing as this one. Don't say I didn't warn you. On 6/24/2008 9:39:02 PM, michelle hamel (mham...@embarqmail.com) wrote: Hi Chuck, Thanks for the reply on your recipe for the elimination of floaters. I have a couple of questions for you 1. How many drops of this solution in each eye 2. How many times a day did you apply the solution 3. How long did it take for the floaters to leave 4. Lastly, how did you pick the quantity of 1 tsp. of MSM I appreciate your kind reply...It's nice to see clearly. -:) Michelle No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:16 PM
Re: CSSkin blemishes
That is what happens when you take Doxy and go in the sun. I had it a few times, before I found out about CS.Marshalee On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:46 PM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: OK CS'ers -- here's a mystery. Last week I finished up a two-week round of antibiotics (doxycycline hyclate) which I took as a prophylactic response to being bitten by a Lyme tick. This week I am experiencing a rash of some type appearing on my upper fore-arms and the back of my hands. The rash consists of small red bumps -- like tiny blisters -- and they are continuing to manifest. They don't itch (well, maybe just a little bit, but negligible). The skin around them appears to be dry and flaky regardless of application of moisturizer. New bumps appear every day, the older ones don't appear to be going away. What the heck's going on with me Could this be a delayed reaction to the antibiotics? Anyone have any ideas? MA
Re: CSRe: LDN Floaters MSM-CS Snoring silver-digest Digest V2008 #383
On Jun 24, 2008, at 5:01 PM, JD Kalloco wrote: LDN In response to LDN ... low dose naltrexone I assume that this would be contra-indicated in those who are taking opiate or opioid medications for pain? Those with chronic pain conditions could find themselves in a world of hurt should LDN be sufficient to trigger acute abstinence syndrome. Correct, you would not want to take opiates and LDN at the same time, they would cancel each other out. This information is on the LDN websites. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
