Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread Cyclone Wehner
> take any Madonna album - ANY of them - hell take ALL of them together >> you won't come up with 6 total songs that she composed herself I think you have to give credit differently - she's a pop stylist. It's normal now for pop artists to use producers. Sure it's a shame - but the artists lose o

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
plus - and this is my big argument against Madonna's talent (or where it lies) if you take a look at Bowie's top two albums from the mid to late 70s - Low and Heroes take a look at the writing credits - on Low - 8 out of 11 are Bowie and only Bowie on Heroes - 6 out of 10 are Bowie and only B

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread Greg Earle
[Forgot to include this followup in my last post ... d'oh] On Nov 16, 2005, at 4:25 PM, Jason Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do seem to remember [Bowie] taking a good few heavy hits in both the dance and rock press in the UK for his flirtations with A Guy Called Gerald and Drum and Bass i

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread Greg Earle
On Nov 16, 2005, at 3:57 PM, robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hmmm if you saw a 50 year old bloke dancing around to a disco record he'd made cos that was the fad of the day you might think that slightly odd too. No, I'd think that was Alexander Robotnick at Fuse-In ... :-) On Nov 16, 2005, at

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread Robert Taylor
I dunno - I am quite happy to level the same criticism to wrinkly old leatherpantses like Bono! -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 23:09 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. And to add to that, if Madonna has become more

RE: (313) Madonna

2005-11-17 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
Wow! Just got in this morning and noticed that madonna still can manages to fire up some discussion! Great:-) I just happen to like her new track... And Kylie rocks to! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Kjell Alinge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 17 november 2005 01:50 A

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread Kent Williams
HAY QUIT MAKIN FUN OF ME! On 11/16/05, robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hmmm if you saw a 50 year old bloke dancing around to a disco record > he'd made cos that was the fad of the day you might think that slightly > odd too. >

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread Jason Brunton
Yeah you're right- I'm off to bed! Jason On 17 Nov 2005, at 00:24, diana potts wrote: you guys are great, really. but this is almost as bad as 100 emails at the end of the day on jeff mills. for the record: one of the last things I needed in my life was images of Madonna dry h*mping almos

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread Jason Brunton
I do seem to remember him taking a good few heavy hits in both the dance and rock press in the UK for his flirtations with A Guy Called Gerald and Drum and Bass in general (and rightly so as it was utter tosh) and many of those comments did revolve around him being "too old"to really unde

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread diana potts
you guys are great, really. but this is almost as bad as 100 emails at the end of the day on jeff mills. for the record: one of the last things I needed in my life was images of Madonna dry h*mping almost EVERYTHING in site.(see video) --- robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Perhaps. B

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread robin
Perhaps. But there's a lot of sexism in the way Madonna is described as "old" they don't say those things in relation to Bowie, who's also delved into dance styles... If you survey the popular press, you pick it up. you might be right. but bowie isn't cavorting around on a stage having

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-17 Thread Cyclone Wehner
> >To: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. >Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:57 AM > > > hmmm if you saw a 50 year old bloke dancing around to a disco record > he'd made cos that was the fad of the day you might think that slig

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread robin
hmmm if you saw a 50 year old bloke dancing around to a disco record he'd made cos that was the fad of the day you might think that slightly odd too. it's not a sexism thing at all. anyway...this is 313 robin... On 16 Nov 2005, at 23:09, Cyclone Wehner wrote: And to add to that, if Madon

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
"Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/16/2005 01:30:06 PM: > On Wed, November 16, 2005 5:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Is that why Madonna claimed to have invented vogueing? > > youll definitely have to point me to where she claims that, ive never seen > or heard of th

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Cyclone Wehner
And to add to that, if Madonna has become more conservative, I think it's more the effect of wealth, not age. I am glad to see her defy her age - agism is another weapon used against women, 'the old expiry date', and the more women who don't 'act their age' the better. > I don't think you can not

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I don't think you can not acknowledge what she did in the sphere of gender politics and the representation of women, she was a subversive. That is an integral part of what she is. The feminists in the academy were terrified of Madonna when she first came along - she changed the paradigm of feminism

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Cyclone Wehner
The Madonna album is fun, I can remember when Stuart Price was playing Tasmania and a Virgin rep here was like, Who does he think he is, Madonna?, when he blew out interviews then came Darkdancer... he preempted the nu 80s electro. Good luck to him, I enjoy his production, things like that Sta

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread David Beattie
--- "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i dont like BT. Cheers mate ;-) BT

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread marsel
while you're talking about Madonna I received the new Kyllie calender today!! - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. On Wed

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, November 16, 2005 7:50 pm, robin wrote: > must be a cultural difference or something but i can't beleive you're > honestly arguing for madonna's corner. > > in the UK that bland electro-pop that she's peddling is what fills the > charts (and has done for a few yearssugarbabes, libertyX

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread robin
except of course for the fact that bjork is listened to by maybe 1/10th of the size audience that madonna is, if that. madonna getting relatively underground electronic music played on pop radio stations is something that bjork certainly isnt pulling off (not to take anything from her of cour

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, November 16, 2005 5:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is that why Madonna claimed to have invented vogueing? youll definitely have to point me to where she claims that, ive never seen or heard of that. > I think Björk has exposed so many more people to a new way of listening to > music >

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread fab.
i prefer audion and the 154 - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:22 PM Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. On Wed, November 16, 2005 3:12 pm, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Madonna

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2005-11-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Is that why Madonna claimed to have invented vogueing? I think Björk has exposed so many more people to a new way of listening to music The difference between Björk and Madonna can be seen first in the writing credits - Björk is the lone writer on the majority of her songs (see my previous pos

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
ll comes > up with something new to keep her into the spotlights... > > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: woensdag 16 november 2005 15:51 > Aan: Blaauw, Martijn de > CC: 313@hyperreal.org > Onderwerp: Re

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Robert Taylor
Not now! -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 16:51 To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. You would though, wouldn't you Rob? On 16 Nov 2005, at 16:45, Robert Taylor wrote: >

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2005-11-16 Thread robin
hahaha i stole a copy of that from the newspaper shop i worked at. my mates mum caught us with it. welcome back 154! :) robin... On 16 Nov 2005, at 15:04, Peteri, Jochem wrote: i once bought a playboy which featured some pics of her. She's actually quite ... hairy...

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Martin Dust
: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 16:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. On Wed, November 16, 2005 4:32 pm, Robert Taylor wrote: I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of culture vulture - just read that she wa

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Robert Taylor
;; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Sorry, was something I had to get off my chest - I loved her til Like A Prayer. But now she really gets on my wick. There's something about her that really grates. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Robert Taylor
l.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. On Wed, November 16, 2005 4:32 pm, Robert Taylor wrote: > > I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of > culture vulture - just read that she wants to 'do' krumping after watching > the Dave LaChappelle doc on it - h

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, November 16, 2005 4:32 pm, Robert Taylor wrote: > > I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of > culture vulture - just read that she wants to 'do' krumping after watching > the Dave LaChappelle doc on it - he refused, so she recruited one of the > dancers. She exp

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Peteri, Jochem
: Peteri, Jochem; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. i can totally picture you dancing in (stylishly) ripped t-shirt and acidwash jeans, singing along to "holiday"...not much changed since then i hope -Original Message- From: "Peteri, Jochem" <[EMAIL P

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Peteri, Jochem
and im still wearing your underwear groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: Kelly, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 17:37 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. >ps Madonna... > >I went to a con

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Kelly, Stephen
>ps Madonna... > >I went to a concert by her in 1987, >at the age of 13 in Rotterdam i was only 13 when i went to my first 154 concert.. i also have his playboy issue..

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Robert Taylor
ve for her - she's a ruthless explotative hasbeen -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 16:22 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. how is it possible to n

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread J.T.
i can totally picture you dancing in (stylishly) ripped t-shirt and acidwash jeans, singing along to "holiday"...not much changed since then i hope -Original Message- From: "Peteri, Jochem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Nov 16, 2005 10:39 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, November 16, 2005 3:12 pm, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > > Madonna produced by Jacques-Lu-Cont! Radical! > > (Ok, you're right. It's not right that I'm dissing it and I've not even > heard it. I'll listen to it, then *diss* it :) > > Have we really come to talking about this people?!? how is it po

RE: (313) Madonna../Manuel Gottsching

2005-11-16 Thread Peteri, Jochem
: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna../Manuel Gottsching >id like to point out that im really enjoying mr gottschings latest release "die mulde" eh?! missed that one, you got a link>?? think theres some new prins thomas thing out on bear called "gottsching&q

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Peteri, Jochem
and look what happened to you mr server-saver groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 16:38 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. ps Madonna... I went to a concert by her in 1987, at the

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread marsel
ps Madonna... I went to a concert by her in 1987, at the age of 13 in Rotterdam

RE: (313) Madonna../Manuel Gottsching

2005-11-16 Thread alex . bond
>id like to point out that im really enjoying mr gottschings latest release "die mulde" eh?! missed that one, you got a link>?? think theres some new prins thomas thing out on bear called "gottsching" - dunno what its like, might be alright. him and lindstrom have re-done e2e4 as well apparentl

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Peteri, Jochem
5 16:21 To: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Weeelll, Madonna is from Bay City, which is near(ish) Detroit - I think she lived there for a while too -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 15:13 To: 313@hyperreal.org S

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Errr, there was a big to do on the list about her 2001 tour when they first collaborated. On Wed, November 16, 2005 9:12 am, Odeluga, Ken said: > Madonna produced by Jacques-Lu-Cont! Radical! > > (Ok, you're right. It's not right that I'm dissing it and I've not even heard it. I'll listen to it, t

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Robert Taylor
Weeelll, Madonna is from Bay City, which is near(ish) Detroit - I think she lived there for a while too -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2005 15:13 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Madonna produced by Jacques-Lu-Cont

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread alex . bond
>Have we really come to talking about this people?!? looks like it. I never started it I'd like to add. altho I did provide the FACTS. I've tried all manner of topics today: gay dwarves as ear plugs rhythm is rhythm secret hidden message in music from captain birdseye fish-fingers none of them

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread /0
for them when i get home > > woo! > > groet, > > Jochem, > Servicedesk ICT > > > -Original Message- > From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 16:01 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. > > >

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Madonna produced by Jacques-Lu-Cont! Radical! (Ok, you're right. It's not right that I'm dissing it and I've not even heard it. I'll listen to it, then *diss* it :) Have we really come to talking about this people?!? K

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Peteri, Jochem
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 16:01 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Madonna.. excuse me? ripping off abba is something new? this track is not only using a VERY catchy loop but it also sounds like madonna is reinterpreting madonna...same old, same old btw, the

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread fab.
- From: "Blaauw, Martijn de " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:53 PM Subject: RE: (313) Madonna.. Nah, didn't like Abba that much...it's nice to see that she still comes up with something new to keep her into the spotlights...

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread alex . bond
>glad to see the same people here as when i left : ) >howdy partners, the 154 is back ! OH BOY! HOLA 154! GOT ANY JOKES??? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in t

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Martin Dust
The album is full of music ear worms and is very European...not as good as Ray Of Light - but I'm no fan to start with... On 16 Nov 2005, at 14:50, Ian Cheshire wrote: nothing to do with the abba sample then ;) Turns the Koko club in Camden into a throbing houseclub: http://www.nme.com/new

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Blaauw, Martijn de
e CC: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: (313) Madonna.. nothing to do with the abba sample then ;) > Turns the Koko club in Camden into a throbing houseclub: > > http://www.nme.com/news/madonna/21519 > > I quite like her new tune...it's very80's > > Martijn >

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Ian Cheshire
nothing to do with the abba sample then ;) > Turns the Koko club in Camden into a throbing houseclub: > > http://www.nme.com/news/madonna/21519 > > I quite like her new tune...it's very80's > > Martijn > > > > www.midnightbeats.de www.kube72.com www.detroitimpression.com

RE: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Peteri, Jochem
glad to see the same people here as when i left : ) howdy partners, the 154 is back ! ghehehe groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 november 2005 15:44 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Madonna

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread alex . bond
> 'jacques le cont' produced her new lp I think. >as in les rythmes digitales? interesting yeah, that one Matt! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individu

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Wed, November 16, 2005 8:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > 'jacques le cont' produced her new lp I think. as in les rythmes digitales? interesting -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mk

Re: (313) Madonna..

2005-11-16 Thread alex . bond
>I quite like her new tune...it's very80's 'jacques le cont' produced her new lp I think. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business c

RE: (313) Madonna but no techno

2004-05-07 Thread Andy Kellman
"But how many bob Segar records can you have on one top 10 list." You can never have enough.

Re: (313) Madonna but no techno

2004-05-07 Thread Derek Plaslaiko.
On Fri, 7 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > its not remotely a Detroit record. But how many bob Segar records can you > have on one top 10 list. > i'd have to say anything under 8 would be criminal. derek.

Re: (313) Madonna but no techno

2004-05-07 Thread yussel
its not remotely a Detroit record. But how many bob Segar records can you have on one top 10 list. On Fri, 7 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >they didn't put any techno among the 10 > > yeah, that's a major oversight but they did say they were just looking at > R&B and rock > > >Madon

Re: (313) Madonna again

2003-05-13 Thread ::\)
TED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: Re: (313) Madonna again > RIGHT after she started this, someone hacked her website and replaced it > with "heres what the f*ck I think im doing" and put up links to her whole > album > >

Re: (313) Madonna again

2003-05-13 Thread ::\)
, Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tom Robbins/Magic Feet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:02 AM Subject: RE: (313) Madonna again > > I'd be well chuffed to d/l the madonna album to fin

Re: (313) Madonna again

2003-05-13 Thread Martin
I bet Guy wishes he could get some X minutes of silence... Martin Dust 13/5/03 3:33 PM Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For those who haven't followed the link she basically posted a 'dummy' > version of her rather bad American Life track. When played, the dummy > track had madonna saying "wtf do you

Re: (313) Madonna again

2003-05-13 Thread Michael Lees
For those who haven't followed the link she basically posted a 'dummy' version of her rather bad American Life track. When played, the dummy track had madonna saying "wtf do you think you're doing?" followed by x minutes of silence. I do find the following response highly amusing :D http://ww

RE: (313) Madonna again

2003-05-13 Thread Langsman, Marc
3 3:55 PM > To: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) Madonna again > > > > Ah damn, if they'd only let her pass by unnoticed then it > would keep her out of the limelight. This was basically a > stunt to keep her name in the papers - do

Re: (313) Madonna again

2003-05-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Ah damn, if they'd only let her pass by unnoticed then it would keep her out of the limelight. This was basically a stunt to keep her name in the papers - does anyone actually think that she believes this is going to cause anyone to have guilt over downloading her songs? Now she's the source for o

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-05 Thread Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
> Someone actually wrote to me offlist, saying it's unethical to post about a non-techno Detroit artist, and I take that point, and felt momentarily chastised I don't think you should feel chastised, Cyclone - this is the 313 list, not a solely Detroit techno list. Eminem, MC5, White Stripes, they

RE: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-05 Thread Alex Bates
no you didnt but a lot of people who like techno would like it to be like that ab -Original Message- From: a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:22 PM To: Alex Bates Cc: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit > why does it need to stay 'reserved

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-05 Thread a
om: a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 12:53 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit for techno to reach a wider audience in the US and beyond we need Why must techno reach a wider audience? On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 02:29 Atlantic/Reykjavik, Cyclone Weh

RE: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-05 Thread Alex Bates
why does it need to stay 'reserved for the cool people'??? how long is a piece of string? ab -Original Message- From: a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 12:53 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit > for techno to reach a wider audie

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-05 Thread Cyclone Wehner
al.org> >Subject: Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit >Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 1:22 PM > >> for techno to reach a wider audience in the US and beyond we need > > Why must techno reach a wider audience? > > > > On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 02:29 Atlantic/Reykjavik, Cyclone W

(313) Duck and Cover... was RE: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-05 Thread Southern Outpost
Oh boy... I'm running for cover on this one, gonna have to inform my isp that I might be receiving a hell of alot of email in the next few days... Out, Patrick. -Original Message- From: a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 5 May 2003 1:23 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re:

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-05 Thread a
for techno to reach a wider audience in the US and beyond we need Why must techno reach a wider audience? On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 02:29 Atlantic/Reykjavik, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Someone actually wrote to me offlist, saying it's unethical to post about a non-techno Detroit artist, and

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-05 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Someone actually wrote to me offlist, saying it's unethical to post about a non-techno Detroit artist, and I take that point, and felt momentarily chastised, but, then again, I feel that in order for techno to reach a wider audience in the US and beyond we need to see it as part of a wider music cu

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-04 Thread Kookie
My dorm room was 2 doors down from her supposed room when she went to UofM freshman year. On the topic of the last time she was in Detroit, it was 2 summers ago. I remember it being the night of Lifefest and being mad because I had to work the Madonna show at the Palace. HBO aired it live. -

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-04 Thread Kent williams
Heh, well when was the last time Madonna was IN the Detroit area, and what the hell has she ever done for Detroit? She moved to New York before a lot of 313 subscribers were born... She's my age for gawdsakes (45) though I'll give it up to her for being in better shape than me. Musically my opini

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-04 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk
Rochester...Northern (slightly east) suburb. jeff At 10:43 AM 5/4/2003, you wrote: This is an left of centre question, but been listening to Madonna's latest. Madonna to me is still a Detroit girl - posh UK accent aside. But I wondered, where exa

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-04 Thread Cyclone Wehner
D]> >To: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit >Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 2:11 AM > >> This is an left of centre question, but been listening to Madonna's latest. >> Madonna to me is still a Detroit g

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-04 Thread Tom Churchill
> This is an left of centre question, but been listening to Madonna's latest. > Madonna to me is still a Detroit girl - posh UK accent aside. But I > wondered, where exactly was she from in Detroit? No idea I'm afraid, but on the subject of Madonna, the inimitable Julie Burchill laid into her in f

Re: (313) Madonna - Detroit

2003-05-04 Thread Carissa Tintinalli
Madonna grew up in Rochester, which is a suburb about 20 minutes north of Detroit. She also lived in Ann Arbor for a year when she attended U of M as a dance major. From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: (313) Madonna - Detroit Date: Mon, 05 May

RE: [313] madonna

2001-08-30 Thread daweed
August 28, 2001 7:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] madonna > > > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I don't know if it was in this list or in techno.ca, but I remember a > long > > discussion thread

Re: [313] madonna

2001-08-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner
It was available locally in Aus - both mixes. Cheers CW >at least one of the slater remixes was available on a commercial cd single. >i think it was british but could have been e.u. or japan. > >brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

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2001-08-29 Thread armin holzgethan
it made me laugh when i first read it so here it is: "i'm trying to put the soul that's missing into electronic music" madonna - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTE

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2001-08-29 Thread Brian Dillard
Subject: Re: [313] madonna On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't know if it was in this list or in techno.ca, but I remember a long > discussion thread about 2 years ago, when Luke Slater remixed Madonna... back > then a lot of people said Luke had sold out. it se

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2001-08-29 Thread FC3 Richards
3@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] madonna > > Ray of Light.. techno-y??? Try TRANCE. > I *heart* Madonna, but I recall her saying, "IM doing something no one has > > ever done before." With her Ray of Light album. Which is bs. Your right.. > being th

Re: [313] madonna

2001-08-29 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Luke did those remixes and Madonna approved them, he didn't expect her to. His idea was to "slaughter" her voice or something. I think this goes back to the gender argument. From reading her interviews, eg Mixmag of about a year ago, Madonna listens to music the way a lot of women of her generation

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2001-08-28 Thread jkessler
I don't think you can say that Madonna grew up in Detroit exactly. She grew up in a suburb somewhere outside of Detroit, and relocated to NY when she was very young, like 18 or something. And yes, she was involved in the sort of "avant- garde" dance music culture that was happening in NY in the

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2001-08-28 Thread Hans Veneman
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 05:12:54PM +, M Elliot-Knight wrote: > Yeah Bjork! Going to get her new album today...anyone know if it's on vinyl > and are rmxs planned? This is from bjork.com: Matthew Herbert is producing a trio of remixes of pagan poetry : a version with a mysterious fairground

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2001-08-28 Thread M Elliot-Knight
Yeah Bjork! Going to get her new album today...anyone know if it's on vinyl and are rmxs planned? MEK From: Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sean Deason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] madonna Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:46:57 -0400 At 8:36 AM -0

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2001-08-28 Thread Lorie R
Ray of Light.. techno-y??? Try TRANCE. I *heart* Madonna, but I recall her saying, "IM doing something no one has ever done before." With her Ray of Light album. Which is bs. Your right.. being that she grew up in Detroit, she should know and acknowledge detroit techno and its roots. =) F

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2001-08-28 Thread daweed
You are right, two completely diferent situations... but my point is, does techno need of pop stars to be promoted... do we want to get out of the underground that way ? (or even get out at all) Mensaje citado por: Jussi Lehtonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot

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2001-08-28 Thread Jussi Lehtonen
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't know if it was in this list or in techno.ca, but I remember a long > discussion thread about 2 years ago, when Luke Slater remixed Madonna... back > then a lot of people said Luke had sold out. it seems things are different > today Yes, it w

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2001-08-28 Thread daweed
I don't know if it was in this list or in techno.ca, but I remember a long discussion thread about 2 years ago, when Luke Slater remixed Madonna... back then a lot of people said Luke had sold out. it seems things are different today I also remember a discussion about UR / Sony affair.. Mensaj

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2001-08-28 Thread Dan Sicko
At 8:36 AM -0400 8/28/01, Sean Deason wrote: since we're on the unlikely subject of Madonna; I like the last 2 albums very much. in fact the Ray of Light album would make a great William Orbit album if Madonna would just stop singing all over the music :^) but it annoys me that since she *so* "el

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2001-08-28 Thread dj revolver
She may be too concerned with producing superstar commercial pop music than promoting the world's ultimate groove "detroit techno". But I agree, that would be a great album "Back to Detroit" - remixed or produced by Detroit techno artists. From: Sean Deason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'alex'

Re: [313] Madonna (313 and Broadcast Media)

2000-09-26 Thread Glyph1001
In a message dated 9/25/00 1:48:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I second Gwendal's sentiment. I just finished listening to Music and the hex hector remix of that track. Could someone tell me what the big deal is? Seems to me that any modern pop artist can throw some "electronica" in the

Re: [313] Madonna (313 and Broadcast Media)

2000-09-25 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Hmmm. I like it as I liked Sandwiches, reminds me of that. Don't tempt me to get into an ideological debate on why I think Madonna is a musical innovator. I think you're too harsh on Madonna myself and take away from her own input (she is a female and what do they know about production, tsk, tsk?

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2000-09-25 Thread .. -
I second Gwendal's sentiment. I just finished listening to Music and the hex hector remix of that track. Could someone tell me what the big deal is? Seems to me that any modern pop artist can throw some "electronica" in the mix to "update" their sound. What I don't understand is how people

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2000-09-25 Thread Gwendal Cobert
Sorry, my question was "is the Madonna LP really good ?" I should be more careful when asking things... Gwendal > > There must be about 2 or 3 songs from her entire collective > > that I can > > _stand_, but I heard tons of praise on said LP, and the > > Mirwais track was > > great... is it r

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2000-09-25 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
> Talking about which... > > > Even some of > > those reviewing Madonna's new record don't have a clue about > > what it is she > > is doing and it is her most adventurous work in some time. > > > There must be about 2 or 3 songs from her entire collective > that I can > _stand_, but

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