Tommy, Thanks! I too, can't quite be in the mix, per se, as far as
The Black Experience. I wasn't raised in the ghetto and had never
heard the word, attributed to Blacks, until the riots of the 60's! I
was so naive, I didn't know the projects, were public housing, or
that public housing, was for
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't even dignify this, with an answer! It was rich whites, who
forced new Irish immigrants, to go to war and the Irish in turn,
took their frustration out on New York Blacks, including Black
children from an orphanage!
I thought English, is and has been, the language, all along!
As far as minorities being the new majority, Blacks of African
Descent should be paid Reparations, for the 450 years of UN-paid, FREE
labor, sale of thier relatives, the rape of its' women and the
injustice, of having to catch up, for
I can't even dignify this, with an answer! It was rich whites, who
forced new Irish immigrants, to go to war and the Irish in turn,
took their frustration out on New York Blacks, including Black
children from an orphanage! Are you proud, that the Irish lynched
us, as you say? I wouldn't brag on
? Are they still African American?
- Original Message
From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:30:46 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
For what it's worth, it's not blacks it's African Americans. And
it's
MOVE ON, I challenge you, to live like this; deprived, depressed
and disgusted!
How about taking the opportunity to better one's own condition and
that of their family by using all the resources available to them to
get ahead?
My kids want a huge on the ocean, boats and fancy cars. I busted
Assimilation, anyone?
I bravo this column. Enjoy:
__
The Politically Incorrect Americanism of Alba, Pacino, and Arnold
By Mary Katharine Ham
Tuesday, June 19, 2007
Hablas Espanol?
Jessica Alba doesn't. Is there anything wrong with that? Apparently
so.
I recently did some research involving the hispanic community in the
US. When you ask what their aspirations are the number one answer by
a wide margin is learning english. They recognize that English in
this country is the key to success. However many don't have the
opportunity to
Securing our borders is aboslutely critical - we should do whatever
it takes. But Tom let's be serious about the 12+ million people who
are here. You gloss over it as so many do below by talking about the
70k felons we could start with. That's a rounding error in terms of
trying to arrest
You can't deport them in a day. You can deport them through
attrition over time. There's never been a reason why we can't
offered by the soft liners (since you find such labels helpful).
I'm not concerned that there is no opportunity for them in Mexico.
I'm concerned about perserving
ok - so how would you go about deporting them over time.
Specifically. What will it cost? What do you mean by attrition - as
they die they don't get replaced??? What does that mean?
Your statement is exactly the kind of statement that says nothing and
means nothing, which is why over 80%
By attrition I mean catch them in usual course. I'm not
suggesting a hunt (except for the ones with felony convictions).
All that needs to be done is enforce the existing laws, the ones
that have been on the books since the 1980;s, which the President
refuses to do.
When we catch them
Tommy,
Like most people, you've missed a very important point that gets
glossed over.
What about the people that hire the illegals? They are the ones that
have been driving the demand for years.
Can you honestly blame a person who comes to this country with the
promise of work from people who are
Respectfully Jack I don't think I missed that point. Go back to
yesterday's post between Dan the Man and me. He suggested we start
to severely punish the employers. I asked When can we start?
I'm all for punishing the employers. The problem is those laws are
on the books, but President
I'm not sure his stance on immigration even makes the top ten list as
to why his approval rating is at 29%...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Respectfully Jack I don't think I missed that point. Go back to
yesterday's post between Dan the Man and
Oh, so you want them gone but over the next 20-40 years. Remember
we're talking 12+ million people here who in your scenario need to
commit some sort of offense to hit the system. Until then we'll
just continue as is? You're clearly not making a realistic case and
if this is your best
---the reason why the undocumented make it here. They work.
Being here undocumented, the don't get any handouts per se. They
work, pay their rent, but their own food. The ones with kids here and
a wife, oyu see them on the weekend walking with them, palying with
them, oding laundry together. A
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
The do the jobs that no one else will is a myth that for some
reason is easily accepted. It shouldn't be. There is no job in
America where the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have nothing against that (and personally
love Spanish food); however, I do think America would be better off
having an official language as I do see many problems for the country
in the next 5-10 years and I don't
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I do think this is a bit different than past migrations to the US
which were more diverse and more of a melting pot with English as
the common denominator vs. today's spanish-language dominant
immigration. I've
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
That ferry ride getting to you?
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not concerned that there is no opportunity for them in Mexico.
I'm concerned about perserving opportunity for poor Blacks in
America.
Give me a break! Whatever problems/obstacles there are for poor
blacks
I, for one, am completely against an official language.
Language and culture are forever linked. I don't see anybody trying to make
English the
official language of the Chinatowns and Little Italy's of America. I'd hate to
live in a country
without any ethnic culture. I happen to like the
For what it's worth, it's not blacks it's African Americans. And it's not
Mexicans it's
hispanic. Many of the hispanic people in our country come from other places
other then
Mexico.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
The problem most Americans have is that we speak only English. That
is unless our parents or grandparents lived with us and taught us,
instead of using it to talk behind our back. So I speak Hebrew,
Russian, Polish and that jibberish known as Yiddish. I still have the
info of where my
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lets not forget the costs to the poor Black community that can't get
a good wage because of our lack of enforcement. That's a huge cost
not only in terms of real dollars, but also to our domestic
tranquility when
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
That
The youth of Asbury aren't working because they are not being given jobs to
work at.
There is little to no opportunity for youth jobs in our city.
You know what I think Asbury could use? A jobs program modeled after FDR's
Civilian
Conservation Corps.
Put the kids to work cleaning up and
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The youth of Asbury aren't working because they are not being given
jobs to work at.
There is little to no opportunity for youth jobs in our city.
You know what I think Asbury could use? A jobs program modeled after
FDR's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The youth of Asbury aren't working because they are not being given
jobs to work at.
Now there's a problem.
GIVEN JOBS.
How about learning how to prepare for a job?
-Like School.
-Go out door knocking Do you have any job
Good point.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote:
The youth of Asbury aren't working because they are not being given
jobs to work at.
Now there's a problem.
GIVEN JOBS.
How about learning
Say if one comes from Jamaica? Are they still African American?
- Original Message
From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:30:46 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
For what it's worth, it's not blacks
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Oh, so you want them gone but over the next 20-40 years. Remember
we're talking 12+ million people here who in your scenario need to
commit some sort of offense to hit the system. Until then we'll
just continue as
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You must cut your own lawn.
Cute answer, and an excellent way of avoiding the numbers I posted.
Nice job.
??? Is Jerry Falwell supplying those statistics?
No. If I recall correctly, those numbers come from the Hispanic
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just like the Anglos,
didn't like the German influx, and together they hated the Irish,
then
all three started to hate Jews, Italians and other darker
Europeans,
us Americans are adopting the same attitude to the Latinos.
Wow...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@
wrote:
Oh, so you want them gone but over the next 20-40 years.
Remember
we're talking 12+ million people here who in your scenario
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My daughter teaches kindergarten in public school in Sunset
Park Brooklyn, the headquarters for Mexicans in NYC. Every Mexican kid
is bilingual while most of their parents do not speak English. Anytime
parent participation
There. Did that move the discussion forward?
Sure did. Like my example of bringing an undcoumented tenant to court
for non-payment of rent. Why didn't he pay his rent? Because he was
able to find an ttorney to sue his former employer for workers comp,
claiming a back injury. He told me
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Calling me a racist is the same tactic George Bush is using to
divert attention from his amnesty program. I guess you and he are
two peas in a pod then.
I must have missed where I called you a racist in my post.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
See my recent post to Asbury Couple about reconquista. That line in
Bobby may have been news to you but them. They want Texas back.
You willing to let them take it?
I never really liked Texas to begin with.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Meanwhile, some other well meaning people from central and south
America who applied to come to America legally, who aren't looking for
handouts, can't get in.
There. Did that move the discussion forward?
Tom,
I was just trying to jab one in your side by comparing you to George
Bush ;-)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
Calling me a racist is the same tactic George Bush is using to
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
ok - so how would you go about deporting them over time.
Your statement is exactly the kind of statement that says nothing and
means nothing, which is why over 80% of American's don't believe
deporting 12+ million
Maureen. Re: The point here is that the police are finally arresting
and publishing the names of johns. This is the best tactic they could
take. Every guy who thought about coming to Asbury Park to score with a
prostitute is going to think twice about it. You dry up the business and
the supply
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
No one is suggesting that people be encouraged to enter the country
illegally.
Yes they are. Many cities are declaring themselves sanctuary
cities
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I appreciate and thank you for your comments on illegal aliens. It
creates a permenant underclass and jobs, that teenagers used to look
forward to having, in the summer, no longer exists! With all of the
high tech jobs,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Draft Riots of the Civil War. America always finds someone to
do
the jobs that no one else will.
The do the jobs that no one else will is a myth that for some
reason is easily accepted. It shouldn't be. There is no
On Jun 17, 2007, at 10:58 PM, justifiedright wrote:
The answer was assimilation. I don't recall them demanding any
street signs, applicaitions or 411 calls in yiddish.
Once again, I'll stand beside Tommy on an issue most people probably
wouldn't believe a liberal would stand beside a
In a message dated 6/15/2007 11:24:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No one is suggesting that people be encouraged to enter the country
illegally. However, this country, including its government, citizens
and business leaders, have to stop being two-faced on the
The point here is that the police are finally arresting and publishing the
names of johns. This is the best tactic they could take. Every guy who thought
about coming to Asbury Park to score with a prostitute is going to think twice
about it.
You dry up the business and the supply goes
I think they should make these guys do communtity service and have them clean
up the
area's where the pro's do their business. And they should where bright orange
vests with
the word JOHN on the back of it.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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--- In
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd pay more for a meal, but I'm willing to make the investment.
Mexicans stay in my book.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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If the Judge inquired of the immigration status of each defendant, and
notifed Homeland Security of anyone who is illegally here, I'm thinking
we would be rid of a great many of those in that article who were
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No one is suggesting that people be encouraged to enter the country
illegally.
Yes they are. Many cities are declaring themselves sanctuary
cities were the police and judges are instructed not to ask about
immigration
living wage??
Many live here making good $.
Union? They have their own. Everyone wants $15 PER HOUR, CASH. Cleaning
ladies want even more. There is no such thing as a $10 hour guy any
more. If you do find one, you need 2, cause they work HALF as hard.
So you take your tenant to court, later
Best news I've heard in a long time!
This should be a weekly event in AP.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
18 men arrested for soliciting sex in Asbury Park
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/14/07
BY MICHELLE SAHN
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ASBURY PARK
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
18 men arrested for soliciting sex in Asbury Park
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/14/07
BY MICHELLE SAHN
Heard this was coming down. My hat is tipped to the 77-year old. Never
give up.
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If the Judge inquired of the immigration status of each defendant, and
notifed Homeland Security of anyone who is illegally here, I'm thinking
we would be rid of a great many of those in that article who were
arrested.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the Judge inquired of the immigration status of each defendant, and
notifed Homeland Security of anyone who is illegally here, I'm thinking
we would be rid of a great many of those in that article who were
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
If the Judge inquired of the immigration status of each
defendant, and
notifed Homeland Security of anyone who is illegally here, I'm
thinking
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