On Aug 28, 2008, at 10:31 PM, Sam wrote:
Did he say America is a failure?
nope.
This is what I heard:
Well, it's time for them to own their failure. It's time for us to change
America. And that's why I'm running for president of the United States.
So it's only been a failure for two decades.
I never heard him say that but that might lead to a female pres in four years.
He was only going to serve one term?
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Such a stupid comment I should ignore it, but I wont.
Good comeback Sam. A rapier wit, yours. A real stinger. Crackling!
Well it was. To claim GOP would never choose a black race baiting. It's based
on nothing but your imaginary belief that the GOP is racist. Powell and Rice
prove you wrong.
As I said in another thread, this nomination speaks again to the GOP's
lack of respect for women. They are assuming that Hillary's supporters
will cut and run to *anyone* as long as there's a woman to vote for.
Positions on issues apparently have nothing to do with it.
So they put up an
Sam, I'm not sure what education level you've achieved, but I'll break
it down for you. In the above sentence, 'them' is a pronoun. The
tricky thing with pronouns is that you've got to read them in context
(that's the sentences surrounding it) to know exactly what the pronoun
refers to.
She's hot but not funny.
SNL has been horrible since she started writing
tina fey r0x0rs on many levels.
witty, cool, funny, hip, hot, you name it..
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I'm the optimist; you're the one rant all the time about how miserable this
country is. At least you said it's not a total failure :)
Do you walk around with a frown on your face all day, looking for things to
gripe about?
Just curious.
Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the
state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect,
her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto
occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska's attorney general on
How about the know-what-a-VP-does issue? Here's what she said 3 weeks ago:
But as for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you I still can't
answer that question until somebody answers for me: 'What is it
exactly that the VP does everyday?'
Cut-n-paste error?
Here's the rest:
I'm used to being
Not sure if this will help in your case but it works for back pain and
misalignment.
1) Lie on the floor with a rolled up hand towel under your neck or something
fill the gap your neck makes, put your legs on a chair or couch so your
legs/knees are at right angles. The small of your back
And yet she has more executive experience than the ZERO Obama Biden have
combined.
Your really don't want to go the experience road do you?
What are Barry's accomplishments? Has he ever had a full time job? Besides
Presidential candidate I mean.
Is he a lawyer or a lecturer or a senator? It
The transformation is complete. You've morphed into Dana.
:: rolls eyes :: If it helps you have a good weekend ...
Be honest for just a small minute of your political life:
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1- Hongkong != Beijing
2- one Office != moving entire company
You're evading the point again.
As a large company would you rather set up your headquarters in Beijing because
the infrastructure is far better
than anyplace in the US?
Here are some people working with $130 billion of those
Can you stay focused?
Why are you talking about Reagan? Chinese capitalism started before Reagan went
there. But you just don't want to talk about Barry do you?
Do you think Beijing is a far superior place to start a business than anyplace
in the US because of the infrastructure? Maybe United
These people have to volunteer for his campaign to go so we know they're true
worshipers. I do wonder if it's a way around the campaign finance laws. You
know if you hit your max does working for a ticket count as a contribution? I
know forced volunteering doesn't pay. I kid :)
But your
You're framing a question that doesn't need to be asked. The real
question any company asks is where can deliver the most return to
shareholders? And if the greatest revenue opportunity is in China,
and if having a headquarters there gets that money, then yes.
Again we're not talking about
These people have to volunteer for his campaign to go so we know
they're true worshipers.
I bet the Obama campaign didn't make anyone sign loyalty oaths for
admission to the event.
Probably not but you know it'll be mostly white folk on camera
No, there is no maximum amount of time you
Actually I think it's kind of funny.
Obama is trying to make McCain look like an elitist and McCain is painting
Obama as a pop star.
McCain didn't have a house for five years while serving his country and Obama
has Brittany Spears set designer creating his temple set for the biggest
political
Always blame Bush.
Let's look at the facts and who's involved with the Countrywide Scandal? Hmmm
it's Chris Dodd and an ex Obama Advisor James A. Johnson.
THE REAL SCANDAL
HOW FEDS INVITED THE MORTGAGE MESS
Isn't that Obama's entire foreign policy to have a sit down?
Bush did it and guess what? You need a plan B.
Dude. You don't smell Bush's disastrous foreign policy at play yet
again? Really?
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Actually they were the same as his Clinton visits.
Greenspan wrote a book attacking Bush yet he said this:
He praises President Bush for letting the Fed stay independent of political
pressure, saying he was scrupulous in not trying to interfere with monetary
policy â which he contrasts
Well it is the party that created the KKK.
too truestill, a minority may be too much to swallow by itself as
evidenced by my mother-in-laws recent doctor visit. While in the
waiting room, there were some old farts talking about the upcoming
election. One said, I've been a democrat
I don't think the Democratic party spun off the KKK, but rather it was
a result of the Civil War. Essentially it was, and is, a modern
American insurgency pretty similar to Iraq.
Based on and made up of angry Democrats
Another interesting point is that shows the evolution of the parties.
The
You're right, my bad. It wasn't the Democrat party it was the democrats in the
party.
Glad I cleared that up.
Wrong. Sometimes the lies are so egregious that I know you're just trolling.
Well it is the party that created the KKK.
At least they're not voting for charisma.
It's Obama Biden not Osama bin laden :)
there are people who wont vote for him because his NAME sounds too
much like OSAMA's
yeah. we are in a world where people THAT stupid exist.
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=133#FN45
The passage of the 14th Amendment, much like the 13th Amendment, was also along
partisan lines. In the House, it passed 138 to 36. Of the 134 Republicans in
the House, 128 (96%) voted to provide civil rights to former slaves; of the
That's why Jr. is going to lose. He keeps dwelling on the America sux message.
It doesn't and if he can tell us what he'll do besides make other countries
like us I'll listen.
What does he say?
1) Close the borders to trade to bring more jobs back to the US.
I thought you where into
, 'Beijing looks like a pretty good option.'
-BHOjr
Duped?
Respond to that statement. Is he right or wrong?
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Huh?
That was a direct answer.
Would you prefer?
Definitely WRONG!
Nice way to dodge the question.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/08/21/cnchina121.xml
Not where I want to set up shop
that it is their fastest growing market for several
years straight.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3objectid=3534820
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You missed the point of the question.
McCain was asked how many houses he had and didn't know the answer. I believe
his wife owns them all and most are investments. She probably buys his shoes
too.
The Obama campaign used a three pronged personal attack.
1. He's senile
2. He can't count that
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/26/mob-loan-figure-speaks-at-convention-for-agent-of-hope-and-change/
Mob-loan figure speaks at convention for agent of Hope and Change
Charlie Rangel should really be ticked off after the DNC gave a speaking slot
to Illinois state treasurer Alexi Giannoulias.
You sound more like a dumb blonde than a lady :)
from the moment Michelle Obama began to speak, I realized we were
witnessing something historic -- and unrelated to the fact she is an
African American. Michelle Obama is the first woman to embrace/embody
a post-feminist view of a presidential
If true you'd be able to supply a link or few.
Not possible is it.
Sam wrote:
Sending out vicious lies from the Obama camp TPM. A new low even for you.
When you copied the quotes from:
As usual Sammy, no clue what you're talking about. I didn't copy the
quotes from blahblah.blah, I compiled
Didn't work because all but the first quote were made up as a joke and you
quoted them verbatim, even including the bullets.
Just say your sorry to the group so we can move on
Sam wrote:
If true you'd be able to supply a link or few.
Not possible is it.
www.msnbc.com
www.cnn.com
I didn't realize you wanted me to prove you lied. If you use your secret source
on each quote you randomly found bulleted in the exact order as jetpacks jokes
you'll see they all point to the same location.
to argue that both
McCain
and his campaign staff has not tried to use his Service Record for
political
gain.
2008/8/25 sam morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I didn't realize you wanted me to prove you lied. If you use your
secret
source on each quote you randomly found bulleted in the exact
Though both Obamas have spoken often and in great personal detail of their own
humble beginnings, of Michelle's hardworking blue-collar dad and Barack's
struggling single mom on food stamps, it somehow hasn't sold Sarah. You might
ask if she was a die-hard Clinton supporter. The answer is yes,
Here's one from July 28
Even Cindy's using it.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/mccain-talks-about-pow-experiences/
July 28, 2008, 6:15 pm
McCain Talks About P.O.W. Experiences
By Michael Cooper
BAKERSFIELD, Calif. â For months some nervous Republicans have pressed
Senator John
Did you mis this line?
But he rarely mentions it on the stump.
This is a mis-post.
This thread is solely for when someone notices McCain (or his
campaign) victimizing himself as a former POW.
Just to be clear, if McCain is telling his story in response to a
question about it, or as part of a
No hypocrisy or irony.
The irony is that Curly responded to my statement about respecting MJ's opinion
with a personal attack on my opinion. I guess you missed that.
For you to be correct I would have had to attack his opinion but I didn't. His
insults aren't opinions; they're ignorance, closed
I've presented proof many times, then you disappear and a week later pretend
you never saw it.
You're saying a lot of stuff but providing absolutely no evidence to
support it. How do we know that you're not bs'ing us? Or is it another
case of trust me I know better. In other words show some
At least this slug thinks for himself and doesn't parrot the current
talking points like a good little drone. But then again letting others
do you thinking for you is easier, you ought to know.
I think a child wrote this. Did you lose your thesaurus?
But they were funding and training
I'm talking to Curley.
Sam wrote:
I've presented proof many times
Proof of what? What are we talking about again?
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Question:
What's happened to those non-Iraqi state and non-state actors that
support terrorism since we've invaded Iraq?
Answer:
-
Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, and Hamas are at unprecedented levels of power
and influence both in the region and on the world stage.
WRONG,
Well, if Barry was president at the time he would have had a sit down with SH.
He would have told him to be nice and that would have solved the problem. Would
have worked in '91 too, and Vietnam, Korea etc...
Could this support have been stopped through alternate means, other
than invading a
How could stopping terrorists support be a failure?
Iran and Syria are another part of the Axis of Evil that that had
nothing to do with Iraq.
Because you make another problem way WAY worse.
Do you know any history of Iran?
Your question is exactly why it's critically important to have
So flailing your arms and yelling conspiracy is how you save face when you lose
a discussion.
So how would you have stopped the Butcher of Bagdad?
Certainly, but then they wouldn't have had any justification for
paying Halliburton, or giving away the Iraqi Oil in no-bid contracts.
Could this
Iraq, however, had no AQ presence of any consequence prior to US
invasion.
Did you forget Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was in Iraq?
After invasion, AQ in Iraq was formed and the combat
operations provided AQ with a key training ground for urban combat,
recruiting, and insurgence. AQ was able to
That's your answer? All governments support terrorism?
I guess this topic is over.
Sam wrote:
You still haven't admitted Iraq supported terrorism. Let's hear it.
Ok. Virtually every country in the world, including Iraq pre- and
post- Hussein, supports terrorism. Including the US.
I think he's got more than that. Being one of the few to vote against
the Iraq war showed intelligence and forward-thinking that MANY people
lack.
That vote was in 2002, Obama wasn't in the Senate until 2005.
I'll take that any day over McCain's experience. We *really*
need to get away
You know, this rhetoric about people not dying is vain is so old
the
first time I heard it was riding a dinosaur.
If we fight a war to win but leave as losers what was the point?
And the phrase quit the war instead of of win it is enter campaign
rhetoric from McCain, or radio talk show
your missing my point...
so, does that require on the job experience... i do not think so.
You shouldn't be allowed to vote:)
rest of the country knows, shit, hundreds of thousands of germans
know, and im sure
many more in many other countries, and when they can see that they
have some
I respect your opinion.
My opinion is that if we didn't go to war with Iraq we would have been attacked
again.
We'll never know which one is right
There are many of us that believe that we need a president that will
take those huge amounts of money that currently are being used to
Whaaat?
Are you OD'ing on Kool-aid?
Reality doesn't matter because he's not president yet?
That's having been said, his analysis this week - while consistent
with his support for McCain - misses one oppressively large detail:
Obama is not a President.
You cannot compare a non-president to a
So he didn't say as president he would draw down troops in Iraq and send them
to Afghanistan? Talk to Iran without preconditions?
So if all he can say is a giant group hug will create world peace I guess I
will have to trust he knows what he's talking about.
As a candidate, you can only speak
I just lost a few more IQ points.
Maureen is correct. Its a tired old piece of bs that's been used time
and time again to justify all sorts of crap, especially a lot of real
idiocies during the Vietnam war.
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Why? You've demonstrated the value of your opinions many times (i.e., not
worth
the electrons wasted in reproducing it).
There are people that respect others opinions, myself, and then there are
slugs, like you.
Iraq had nothing to do with AQ.
But they were funding and training
What did he say?
Some of those things really needed to be said. I'm just glad that
somebody said them. I don't care if the speech was prepared. You'd
have to be a fool not to prepare a speech you're going to give in
Berlin in the circumstances. It was a great speech. He stuttered once
or twice
I don't want a transcript; I want to know what he said that moved you so much.
Was there a line he said a fact he mentioned. Tell us what you think he said
that NEEDED to be said.
for the convenience of anyone else coming along --
http://my.barackobama.com/berlinvideo is the full-length video
Can you site any of this or is it too difficult to track the voices in your
head:)
Calling Obama a communist, radical muslim terrorist etc etc. Then
seriously carrying on about black UN helicopters etc., all in the same
conversation makes a pretty good example of an over propagandized
Was he dressed? :)
I think it was more what he needed to show rather than say; and that
was that he could effectively rally hundreds of thousands of
Europeans
behind him and work credibly with European leaders.
He did that.
Thus with a strong foundation established he can return as
Or did he:)
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/07/24/will-media-report-concert-obamas-berlin-speech
Remember back in May when media gushed and fawned over a huge crowd in
Portland, Oregon -- supposedly gathered to hear the words of Democrat
presidential candidate Barack Obama --
Katie Couric of all people has started actually asking real questions. Then the
WaPo realized how flawed his war position is. Is the emperor wearing any
clothes?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/22/eveningnews/main4283623.shtml?source=mostpop_story
Couric: But talking microcosmically,
I'm not sure how accurate you think rating a liberal or conservative can be,
it's an opinion. What's wrong with it anyway, I thought you liked being a
liberal.
Of all the votes, Clinton cast 5 conservative votes and Obama only one.
On social issues, which include immigration, McCain received a
Fannie and Freddie's Enablers
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121659681885068955.html?mod=djemITP
gMoney wrote:
What kind of market regulation are you after? If it's anything beyond
breaking up the Oil monopoly and capping obscene profit taking in the name
of national interests.I
What's not ridiculous to debate is the influence the public has on
elected officials, and that's probably fairly high - moving towards
100% as elections near.
Did you notice who got elected in Germany and France last round?
Since I'm fairly certain that Obama can draw a monster crowd compared
to
I lost a few IQ points reading this ;)
Except for one thing, conservative in France and Germany are the
equivalent of flaming liberals here in the US. In other words its a
very invalid question.
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That's antidotal.
I believe this notion that Bush caused anti-Americanism is naive.
Read:
Anti-Americanism Is Mostly Hype - David Gothard
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121417762529095457.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Here's a blurb.
You would not know from these surveys, of course, that
I would be concerned with every new vaccine; this one is on the market for two
years even though testing ends on 9/30/2009
So far:
8 million got the vaccines
8,000 had reactions
18 died 4 of blood clots (must have been sluts)
38 Guillain-Barre Syndrome
the VAERS reports show that the average
http://www.scdmvonline.com/dmvnew/forms/RG-504.pdf
Page 13
Not sure how they can justify this without providing equal access for
all religions to do the same.
Anyone with $4K can apply.
Not everyone will be approved. So is it still discrimination?
I say yes.
* The guy is black dude from a broken home with a kooky name who was
moved all over as kid. Despite that he graduated at the top of his
class from Harvard - f'ing - Law School. That's no small
accomplishment. It's the pinnacle of professional services: equal or
better than any other
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/report-details-saddams-terrorist-ties/72906/
The report, titled Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi
Documents, finds that:
- The Iraqi Intelligence Service in a 1993 memo to Saddam agreed on a plan to
train commandos from Egyptian Islamic
That's much better than a few places I lived:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park,_Chicago
In the 1960s, as a result of the project, Hyde Park's average income soared by
70%, but its Black population fell by 40%, since the substandard housing for
poorer Blacks and other minorities had been
Your on the right path:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/03/does-anyone-know-what-obama-thinks-any-more/
Does anyone know what Obama thinks any more?
The last frontier of flip-flops approaches for Barack Obama, and even his
surrogates can't seem to guess which way the wind blows on any given
Obama keeping the plan is proof enough it works.
Interesting that you're referencing this opinion piece as straight
news. Especially given that the writer was director of the White
House
Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives from 2002 to 2006.
So
he has an interest in
So many on this list were angry with Bush for this. Crickets when Obama offers
it.
i think its great that the media are making him a rockstar.
finally we have someone we can enjoy listening to!
i love it.
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
--
That's my point.
There's no logic to the liberal mind, only emotion.
'cause it was bush.
cant anyone just understand that... we dont like him... so anything he
tries to do, we poo poo on it...
thats why.
-- tony
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What do you base that belief on? Has Obama done or said anything that would
make him trustworthy?
Are you also saying giving money to religion is acceptable if a member of the
Trinity Unity Church does it as opposed to whatever Bush's religion is?
Because it's easier to believe that Obama's
Nice.
Since I'm all grown-up I'll keep my opinions of you to myself.
again, coming from a prick i dont like, humor isnt humor its arrogance.
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All could be said for Bush in 2000
and the fact that he is NOT a washington professional.
He has no Experience
and the fact that he HAS NOT sent one man to war.
Do you think we were wrong to go in to Afghanistan?
and the fact that he has not been a prick on the world stage.
You're forgetting one key point: Obama isn't using it as an end-to-end
solution.
Neither did Bush.
All he's saying is that charity works.
So did Bush.
Further, there's the political angle that you've gotten wrong: he
isn't courting evangelicals (although that's a side benefit), he's
courting
Suddenly after 20 years. I wonder why.
And for the record, Obama has completely distanced himself from Trinity
United. He goes to another Methodist church now, same as Bush.
David C
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What's the difference between what he said and what Bush said?
It definitely is pandering... but it's not as bad when you actually put it
in context. Here's the rest:
Now, make no mistake, as someone who used to teach constitutional law, I
believe deeply in the separation of church and state,
Great article:
Not a flinch. Not a flicker. Not a hint of shame. By the time he's finished,
Obama will have made the Clintons look scrupulous.
Speaking of which, Charles Krauthammer has labelled Obama for what he really
is - a politician:
Who says it doesn't function well?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/27/AR2008062702631.html
Although this continues to be debated in Washington, there's little debate in
the heartland: The Bush faith-based initiative works. Thirty-five governors --
19 Democrats and
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/01/obama-unveils-plan-to-fund-faith-based-groups/
Barack Obama, in a bold appeal to religious voters, announced Tuesday that he
would expand President Bushâs program to award federal grants to faith-based
groups.
Canadian Health Care We So Envy Lies In Ruins, Its Architect Admits
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=299282509335931
What would drive a man like Castonguay to reconsider his long-held beliefs? Try
a health care system so overburdened that hundreds of thousands in need of
medical
Stop talking about me asshole
pretty hard to be logical and any kind of an extremist actually. Look at
Sam.
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your answer for dealing with those people that can't afford health
care?
2008/6/27 sam morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Canadian Health Care We So Envy Lies In Ruins, Its Architect Admits
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=299282509335931
What would drive a man like
Back in the 1960s, Castonguay chaired a Canadian government committee studying
health reform and recommended that his home province of Quebec â then the
largest and most affluent in the country â adopt government-administered
health care, covering all citizens through tax levies.
The
I usually give Bush around $15 a year.
I gave Rudy $50
anyone else care to make a disclosure?
I gave Bbama $15 dollars so I could get a magnet. Hillary $20 bucks.
Republicans can kiss my cheep ass!
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We know what kind of campaign they're going to run. They're going to try to
make you afraid. They're going to try to make you afraid of me. He's young and
inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?
-BHO Jr
Lt. Col Allen West:
My advice to Senator Obama is to run as
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june08/sbdrilling_06-20.html
Mark Shields:
It was a flip-flop of epic proportions. It was one that he could not
rationalize or justify. His video was unconvincing. He looked like someone who
was being kept as a hostage somewhere he was so absolutely
I like Katz but it's downtown, near CBGBs, which wasn't in Queens.
The others are near Times Square.
Ben's is a Restaurant more than a deli but it's good.
I never tried Carnegie.
I am going to be in NY next week for a few days. For you New Yorkers, which
deli...
Katz, Bens, or Carnegie? (If
Look into my eye's
you are getting sleepy
I think you mean 80% think the country sucks thanks to AP and BS articles like
this.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/6/23/media-to-america-disaster-seen-as-catastrophe-looms.html#
[http://tinyurl.com/6rmhu6]
Dino
It was a stupid question that was meant to deflect the discussion.
I noticed this question was completely ignored.not surprisingly.
This really is the heart of the matter when you hear someone say The
country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles.
Yep, it was founded on Buddhist
Which it isn't, as other have helpfully pointed out.
I did not read any convincing points.
C'mon Sam, quoting from the Declaration, as an example to bolster the
claim that the *Constitution* establishe[d] the United States on
[Judeo-Christian ideas] is dishonest on its face.
I'll always be
I got the impression he was more in agreement with the Hebrew bible while not
happy with the new Testament but believed in Christ.
Overall, from his body of writings, Jefferson definitely favored secular
government. His writings on his personal feelings and religion may have
oscillated, but in
I thought you went to school in WV
Not that there's anything wrong with that:)
I guess it was too advanced for your pointy little head.
btw its Northern Virginia. Some people have no sense of direction.
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