[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: Ha-Ha-- i figured someone was going to say that! all the emphasis with the TMers on hovering and flying around through the air is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Enlightenment is not what you think. Hey, Pete, mind if I rephrase your one-liner? Enlightenment just is. What you think *about* it is not what you think. I'm more than open to the possibility of altered states of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Phonology for Fairy Field Flyers: minimal pair

2009-01-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: Minimal pair From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In phonology, minimal pairs are pairs of words or phrases in a particular language, which differ in only one phonological element, such as a phone, phoneme, toneme

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: bravo monkey! chatter, chatter, chatter. are you done playing with your banana, and have decided to begin chattering again? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: ED, I have noticed

[FairfieldLife] The World according to Monsant

2009-01-28 Thread nablusoss1008
Description This Friday Evening, Jan. 30th at 8pm in Dalby Hall the Sustainable Club Presents: The World According to Monsanto! Monsanto is the world leader in genetically modified organisms (GMOs), as well as one of the most controversial corporations in industrial history. This century-old

[FairfieldLife] UFO-star, Costa Rica 3. January 2009

2009-01-28 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LrOkAmNLwMfeature=related

[FairfieldLife] Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
Consider this an Edg-like rap, in the tradition of determining whether anyone here on FFL is interested in the odd things I am, and wants to swap stories. It's also a rap addressing ED's complaint that nobody ever talks about their spiritual experiences. I recently posted a rap about Lucid

[FairfieldLife] Memories grow sweeter with time?

2009-01-28 Thread cardemaister
In Finnish we say Aika kultaa muistot. (Time guilds memories.)[1] Just checked that out, the corresponding English expression seems to be Memories grow sweeter with time. My memories seem to grow more bitter and depressing. Almost everything I can recall from my past life during this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A reply to Vaj about Mantras, Religion, etc.

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:17 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: So, what specifically did MMY say concerning the vibration of the mantras? that they were life supporting is about all i recall. that by repeating the mantra silently like any other thought, the mind trasnscends until it reaches its

Re: [FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:20 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: Ha-Ha-- i figured someone was going to say that! all the emphasis with the TMers on hovering and flying around through the air is the attempt by the ego to hold

Re: [FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2009, at 3:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: Ha-Ha-- i figured someone was going to say that! all the emphasis with the TMers on hovering

Re: [FairfieldLife] OffWorld annhilates Vaj and Cardemeister---------was/// TM puja is religious

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:01 PM, off_world_beings wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: What I'm inter- ested in is whether anyone on FFL has had experiences of this sort, and wants to rap about them. No experts, no dogma, just rappin'...trying to figure things out. The Rama fellow I studied with for many

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: What I'm inter- ested in is whether anyone on FFL has had experiences of this sort, and wants to rap about them. No experts, no dogma, just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
I've had a number of bizarre dreams over the years, but of course they typically don't seem strange while dreaming, it's only in the waking state that they seem strange. One odd dream was with my root teacher, who's a master of dream yoga and sleep. We were on retreat and I had brought a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: In the dream state you're not a hampered by time, you can even play dreams in reverse or examine individual dream elements. Once one could shatter the constructs of the dreams, you could reduce it to a bare presence, even

Re: [FairfieldLife] My first MM's!

2009-01-28 Thread Kirk
Hahaahahha - Original Message - From: cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] My first MM's! Just bought my first package of MM's ever. They been available here in East-of-Sweden,

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread raunchydog
Excellent, Peter. It's exactly the map of the territory Maharishi has been telling grasshopper, identifying for years with the weeds he's been smokin'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Enlightenment is not what you think because: You can not get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2009, at 8:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: But did you ever encounter teachings in the dream plane that just don't map to the waking state at all? I've had that experience many times, and it's always fascinating. The teaching itself was always clear as a bell *in* the dream plane.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Memories grow sweeter with time?

2009-01-28 Thread Kirk
No, it is from ones own imperfect intentions. If you perfect your good intentions you will come to expect nothing but good things. In time, you will look back and see only good. Be proactive and shape your destiny. This of course sounds easier than it is. So take some time to get used to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Kirk
I was fascinated with lucid dreaming and read the classic book when I was about ten years old. I tried to do it a few times. I have had many intermeditation dreams which were very much awake at the same time. I have never and do not now practice any sort of dream meditation or structure as I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: A number of the things I'd previously described simply cannot be done (as they were done in the dream) in the waking state, but they almost always will have some waking or meditative state counterpart that I had to realize or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Larry
I don't know if this qualifies as Lucid Dreaming or not - but about 1-2 times per month I will find myself in a frustrating dream. I attempt to salvage the dream by removing the frustration, but eventually just decide to end it and wake up. Example: Just last night I dreamt I was on a jet flight

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: --you say, to paraphrase: (according to MMY, those are good words). But You can not get enlightened are your words, not his. He didn't often use the E word (if ever) in the context of a progression from CC - BC - UC; but he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2009, at 9:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Not only does it have the advantage of expanding the realm of possibilities of what the mind can conceive, but also expanding the possibility of what it can believe. Exactly. This applies to experience of witnessing the siddhis being performed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
I am far from an expert on all this myself, and thus can't say whether this is a legitimate example of Lucid Dreaming or not. Sounds like it, if you intentionally changed the direction of the dream, even if you didn't have the sensation of waking up in the dream. On the other hand, if I'm ever

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Duveyoung
Turq, I find it strange that you are being somewhat pro lucid dreaming when I compare that to your POV about oogabooganess in general. I've but dabbled with lucid dreaming, so I can't go toe to toe with you, but I can ask questions of you that should clarify some things for me if you honestly

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
agreed-- really well said dr. pete. enlightenment is real, viable and experienced-- just not by -thinking- raunchydog, i don't get your comments at all- care to clarify please? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Excellent, Peter. It's exactly the map of

[FairfieldLife] Re: My first MM's!

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
surely you were able to buy Smarties previously? (similar candy made in the UK, only with as i recall, a matte finish shell vs. MMs gloss shell) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote: Just bought my first package of MM's ever. They been available here in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread raunchydog
Jumping in. I've never had any instruction on how to control lucid dreams, have no intention intention to do so, but find that I can if I want to. If lucid dreaming spontaneously occurs, it sometimes happens in the dome during rest after program. If I had a particularly blissful program, during

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: agreed-- really well said dr. pete. enlightenment is real, viable and experienced-- just not by -thinking- raunchydog, i don't get your comments at all- care to clarify please? Just jiving Peter. It's an analogy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Turq, I find it strange that you are being somewhat pro lucid dreaming when I compare that to your POV about oogabooganess in general. Edg, I have *no problem* with oogabooganess. I have a problem with *unexamined*

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Larry
Hey Edg, I'll have to check again tonight, but when I floated thru your office the other night, I thot for sure one of those stautues was a bust. Speaking of busts, those old Playboys you've got stashed away are a hoot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Turq,

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: --you say, to paraphrase: (according to MMY, those are good words). But You can not get enlightened are your words, not his. He didn't often use the E

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Peter
You can not get enlightened. This is very true. In waking state there is an experience of an individuality; a private psychological self. In waking state there is a mistaken notion that this individuality will get enlightened; that it will have some sort of enlightened experience. But the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Duveyoung
No busts over here. Wanna try another guess? Playboys? Here? As if. Real sex is how I roll. What I do think you DO know is why you posted this. And, if you could expound on that, hey, we'd all be agog if it were done with clarity. I'm an easy target here for this kind of teasing, but far

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
lol-- i got as far as the grasshopper living among the weeds and then got lost... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: agreed-- really well said dr. pete. enlightenment is real,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Peter
--- On Wed, 1/28/09, boo_lives boo_li...@yahoo.com wrote: From: boo_lives boo_li...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 12:27 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM puja is religious, as are other elements of TM practice

2009-01-28 Thread I am the eternal
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:13 PM, grate. swan no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Yes but if you really really feel it in your gut, its true. That's how I roll. And if God talks to you, its slam dunk true. I'm sorry. I was looking over another planet. Did you summon me? Incidently, quite a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Peter
Me, EnlightenDawn and Raunch sit around, smoking grasshopper weed and engage in mental tantric practices between the domes. Oh, by the way, many years ago I walked between the domes when everybody was flying. Oh my God! I almost got electrocuted! The energy exchange between the domes was mind

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Larry
On the long-shot that I was correct about the bust(s), then I could finally tell my Mom my one year at MIU paid off because it expanding my 'hunch power' If I was way off, I fall back on gentle ribbing. Since you caught me on both accounts, I apologize and won't do it again. --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:27 PM, boo_lives wrote: That a (shocking small) percentage of long term sidhas have had from here to here advaita experiences doesn't prove anything about what MMY really taught and nurtured in his followers. Reality is from here to here, people in every spiritual movt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
Don't worry, we've set the blade extra low on the akashic landmower. On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:40 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: lol-- i got as far as the grasshopper living among the weeds and then got lost...

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: You can not get enlightened. This is very true. In waking state there is an experience of an individuality; a private psychological self. In waking state there is a mistaken notion that this individuality will get

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
and you know this, monkey, from your VAST EXPERIENCE with TM, right??? lets see, 4 years worth according to you, several decades ago...yup, qualifies for a banana... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:27 PM, boo_lives wrote: That a

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: It is amazing that more people are not Realized in the TMO. One reason, as you imply, is that Maharishi was way too successful in creating a waking state model that explained enlightenment. People have become trapped in

[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: More defications of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Arhata Osho
The general public cares 'shit' about enlightenment compared to love and 'economic survival'.  Interesting to see the excitement over this word here! Rare is it to see any group, especially Christian, evolved enough to inquire about this 'type of salvation'. Seems Christians would like to hear

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: If you played poker in the astral with your buddies, and they all said the next day that they had had the same experience and considered it true to say we were actually in each other's presense, actually had really

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:27 PM, boo_lives wrote: That a (shocking small) percentage of long term sidhas have had from here to here advaita experiences doesn't prove anything about what MMY really taught and nurtured in his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2009, at 1:02 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: and you know this, monkey, from your VAST EXPERIENCE with TM, right??? lets see, 4 years worth according to you, several decades ago...yup, qualifies for a banana... Four years? Not according to me!

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread yifuxero
--Thx raunch. I like you. Short of defining them, it's easier to say that Neo-Advaitins focus solely on Being or whatever term they use (perhaps the Self); but without giving an account of their transition through the relative layers of existence and diminishing the importance of everything

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Arhata Osho
Men who extol 'enlightenment talk' are rarely not on 'hallucinogenics' and never have adequate personal love experience worth talking about. Arhata http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/ --- On Wed, 1/28/09, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: enlightened_dawn11

[FairfieldLife] Re: A reply to Vaj about Mantras, Religion, etc.

2009-01-28 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: So, what specifically did MMY say concerning the vibration of the mantras? that they were life supporting is about all i recall. that by repeating the mantra silently like any other thought, the mind

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: various manifestations of the sidhis themselves. they produced

[FairfieldLife] US Civil Engineers rate the US infrastructure a D

2009-01-28 Thread I am the eternal
I was hoping that The One would get us to bite the bullet and replace and build out our crumbling infrastructure but he's going to do very little, most of it tax cuts ,which are a very good idea because they act quickly, and symbols. What little his stimulus bill will do beyond tax cuts is aimed

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 1:02 PM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: and you know this, monkey, from your VAST EXPERIENCE with TM, right??? lets see, 4 years worth according to you, several decades ago...yup, qualifies for a banana...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:18 PM, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: So we never leave the dream world. We lived a dream world in the TMO and we left to live in an even dreamier world? I'm going back to the Self.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Consider this an Edg-like rap, in the tradition of determining whether anyone here on FFL is interested in the odd things I am, and wants to swap stories. It's also a rap addressing ED's complaint that nobody ever talks

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
On Jan 28, 2009, at 1:23 PM, boo_lives wrote: Of course you nailed that one right on the head--and let's not forget that these are now coached advaita experiences ever since MMY presided over the course dredging for moods. People are being encouraged to moodmake their own projected

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
c'mon monkey, you're just making shit up to fit your prejudices-- the reason no one tells you anything except the crumbs you can find scampering under the table is that you're too full of yourself to even hear it. have a banana and stfu. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Memories grow sweeter with time?

2009-01-28 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:56 AM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: In Finnish we say Aika kultaa muistot. (Time guilds memories.)[1] Just checked that out, the corresponding English expression seems to be Memories grow sweeter with time. My memories seem to grow more bitter and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A reply to Vaj about Mantras, Religion, etc.

2009-01-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:34 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: So, what specifically did MMY say concerning the vibration of the mantras? that they were life supporting is about all i recall. that by repeating the mantra silently like any other thought, the mind trasnscends until it reaches its ground

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Jumping in. I've never had any instruction on how to control lucid dreams, have no intention intention to do so, but find that I can if I want to. If lucid dreaming spontaneously occurs, it sometimes happens in the dome

Re: [FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:35 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: various

[FairfieldLife] The Ramayana

2009-01-28 Thread John
To All: In this book, we find a story of a race of monkeys who helped Rama defeat Ravana and his ilk. Since this story is supposedly millions of years old, is it possible that these monkies were the Neanderthals that existed eons of years ago? Or, from the level of symbolism, do these

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Consider this an Edg-like rap, in the tradition of determining whether anyone here on FFL is interested in the odd things I am, and wants to swap

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: You can not get enlightened. This is very true. In waking state there is an experience of an individuality; a private psychological

[FairfieldLife] With no job and 5 kids, 'better to end our lives,' man wrote

2009-01-28 Thread I am the eternal
Sorry to butt in on y'all's lucid dreaming, but... http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/28/family.dead.california/index.html http://tinyurl.com/d8javj

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:35 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:35 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Ramayana

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: To All: In this book, we find a story of a race of monkeys who helped Rama defeat Ravana and his ilk. Since this story is supposedly millions of years old, is it possible that these monkies were the Neanderthals that existed

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Ramayana

2009-01-28 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: To All: In this book, we find a story of a race of monkeys who helped Rama defeat Ravana and his ilk. Since this story is supposedly millions of years old, is it possible that these monkies were the Neanderthals that existed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 28, 2009, at 1:51 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:35 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:35 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: Of course you nailed that one right on the head--and let's not forget that these are now *coached* advaita experiences ever since MMY presided over the course dredging for moods. People are being encouraged to moodmake

[FairfieldLife] WILL OBAMA EXECUTIVE ORDER TRIP UP ROVE?*

2009-01-28 Thread Arhata Osho
  When Conyers subpoenaed Rove last year, Bush lawyers invoked executive immunity to stop Rove from testifying. But now Bush is no longer president. = Hi Team! *? 2 ALL: WILL OBAMA EXECUTIVE ORDER TRIP UP ROVE?* The Attorney General and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:23 PM, boo_lives boo_li...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Could you say more about the script - I'm curious what flavor of enlightenment experience has gotten the approval. Is it still going on now that mmy is gone?

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:35 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield 1st Fridays Art Walk 5th Annual Film Expo

2009-01-28 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.fairfieldartwalk.org . http://www.fairfieldartwalk.org/components/com_acajoom/templates/default/tpl0_underban.jpg 1 http://www.fairfieldartwalk.org/components/com_acajoom/templates/default/tpl0_spacer.gif Rick February 2009 Fairfield 1st Fridays Art Walk 5th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: The Rama fellow I studied with for many years taught Lucid Dreaming. He taught it in the context of Tibetan Dream Yoga, but the techniques were the same as those I've later found in Native American shamanism and other disciplines. The Tibetan connection is that in that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Ramayana

2009-01-28 Thread guyfawkes91
Or, from the level of symbolism, do these monkies actually represent certain humans who have not learned to develop their consciousness, or those who have not reached the true human potential? JR It's a fairy story, grow up.

[FairfieldLife] unpopular names crime: (cause and effect?)

2009-01-28 Thread yifuxero
from Yahoo news: Boys With Unpopular Names More Likely to Break Law Buzz Up Send livescience.com – 2 hrs 25 mins agoBoys in the United States with common names like Michael and David are less likely to commit crimes than those named Ernest or Ivan. David E. Kalist and Daniel Y.

[FairfieldLife] Paul Mc Cartney, the TMO

2009-01-28 Thread Paul Mason
TMO issues aside, I would love to hear Paul McCartney Mike Love duet on 'Back in the USSR' - also to hear Paul Horn blow some airy flute what about Ringo Paul working together again, that would be nice. Someone compared the Paul concert to George's concert in England. If it is a fraction as

Re: [FairfieldLife] US Civil Engineers rate the US infrastructure a D

2009-01-28 Thread Bhairitu
I am the eternal wrote: I was hoping that The One would get us to bite the bullet and replace and build out our crumbling infrastructure but he's going to do very little, most of it tax cuts ,which are a very good idea because they act quickly, and symbols. What little his stimulus bill will

[FairfieldLife] You´re in the Movies

2009-01-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Fairfield 1st Fridays Art Walk 5th Annual Film Expo - February 6th 7th, 2009 Plan to attend the Fairfield 1st Fridays Art Walk 5th Annual Film Expo February 6th 7th. Bring your family and friends and join the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Bhairitu
ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: enlightenment is that state of consciousness in which a person no longer identifies with, and gets lost in, the objects of perception. This sounds like the I don't care anymore

Re: [FairfieldLife] You´re in the Movies

2009-01-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 28, 2009, at 2:40 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: It´s very funny. At the bottom of the ad it says, ¨Camera included. Burt Reynolds sold separately.¨ I love it! Sal

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
your posts in that regard are hilarious to me (and boring)! i don't know anyone by either of the names you mentioned-- let's see: i am a blonde female with an indian sounding name, who may be a man, who doesn't meditate, but pretends to in order to argue with you, who posts in chat rooms, who

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Ramayana

2009-01-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
nope, i refer to you as a monkey king because monkeys chatter, chatter, chatter about subjects they know nothing about, like you do. i don't personally care if you, (or anyone else here), agrees, disagrees with, believes or even concerns themselves with what i post. you are the one with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I recently posted a rap about Lucid Dreaming. It is pasted in at the bottom of this post. What I'm inter- ested in is whether anyone on FFL has had experiences of this sort, and wants to rap about them. No experts, no

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: your posts in that regard are hilarious to me (and boring)! i don't know anyone by either of the names you mentioned-- let's see: i am a blonde female with an indian sounding name, who may be a man, who doesn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread Vaj
Thanks for taking the time to openly respond to this question. Your openness is appreciated. On Jan 28, 2009, at 3:12 PM, I am the eternal wrote: Been there, done that, plan to go back and do it again. There is no script given to the IA CPs. There is no script. However TMO people will

[FairfieldLife] Monkeys vs Meat (Re: Mantras, Religion and finally a statement . . .)

2009-01-28 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: I know that. I am asking what results were produced in you. ok- long hops during the flying sutra-- stuff that i couldn't have accomplished athletically, seeing inside my body-- tendons, ligaments, muscles,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Call for Lucid Dreaming stories

2009-01-28 Thread ruthsimplicity
Here is an interesting article on lucid dreaming and the blurred lines between awake and sleep: http://www.lucidity.com/SleepAndCognition.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] unpopular names crime: (cause and effect?

2009-01-28 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:33 PM, yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com wrote: from Yahoo news: Boys With Unpopular Names More Likely to Break Law Buzz Up Send livescience.com – 2 hrs 25 mins agoBoys in the United States with common names like Michael and David are less likely to commit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Paul Mc Cartney, the TM

2009-01-28 Thread I am the eternal
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Paul Mason premanandp...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: TMO issues aside, I would love to hear Paul McCartney Mike Love duet on 'Back in the USSR' - also to hear Paul Horn blow some airy flute what about Ringo Paul working together again, that would be nice. Someone

[FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of enlightenment

2009-01-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: lol-- i got as far as the grasshopper living among the weeds and then got lost... So did the grasshopper. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In

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