Re: [IMPC] [VOTE] Graduate Apache Jena as a Top Level Project

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: This is a call for vote to graduate the Apache Jena podling from Apache Incubator to be a top level project. +1, binding, mentor cheers! - Leo (doing a little celebration dance)

Re: [VOTE] Release Jena LARQ 1.0.0-incubating

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Paolo Castagna castagna.li...@googlemail.com wrote: here is a vote on a release for Apache Jena LARQ module: jena-larq-1.0.0-incubating. ... Proposed files and structure to merge with existing dist/ area:

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
(dropped infra@) On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: I'm exceedingly sorry here that the IPMC as a whole let you down by not turning into these issues and dealing with them at the outset. Me too. Personally, I have no objection to including mutant

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like I wasn't clear enough. The proposal is for the following release artifacts: (1) A source-only tar (2) A source+binary dependencies convenience tar (3) A binary tar This is instead of: (1) A source-only

Re: Multi-licensed dependencies

2012-03-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:42 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 March 2012 18:43, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: On Mar 29, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Personally, I agree with Roy.  Perhaps it might seem a little odd to include the text of e.g. the GPLv2 in one of

Re: Binary dependencies in source releases (Was: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.5-incubating, RC0)

2012-03-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Let's decouple this thread from the specific issue of the ManifoldCF release. There's a long tradition of Apache releases like the ones ManifoldCF is producing, so turning this suddenly into a blocker is IMHO bad

Re: [VOTE] Release Jena Fuseki 0.2.1-incubating

2012-03-21 Thread Leo Simons
+1 from me. Can we get 2 more IPMC votes? (Checked KEYS, signatures, LICENSEs, NOTICEs, license headers. Built source release, watched maven download the internet. Ran compiled source and binary distribution and played with web interface. Almost remembered how to write SPARQL. Etc. All looks

Re: Jena mentors (Was: [VOTE] Release Jena Fuseki 0.2.1-incubating)

2012-03-21 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: Can we get 2 more IPMC votes? On a related note, who are currently mentoring Jena? The status page [1] doesn't show. The Jena team page [2

Re: [VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC-5)

2012-03-08 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: The Jena PPMC has voted to release  Apache Jena TDB 0.9.0-incubating and we would now be grateful if members of IPMC would review and vote for this release. +1 from me. cheers, Leo

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Accumulo to TLP

2012-03-08 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Billie J Rinaldi billie.j.rina...@ugov.gov wrote: Please vote on recommending the graduation of Apache Accumulo with the following resolution to the ASF Board. +1 from me. Well done, that was pretty fast :) Is it right that your PMC roster doesn't have apache

Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports

2012-03-08 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, Jukka this is sounding so timid :). You know, I think I'll break rank and tell you what I really think. You may want to sit down first. You [1] did a *kick ass* job on the last report. Kick. Ass. [2]. Kapow! As well as spending the time to look through and digest it all beforehand

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-02-29 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Leo, are you out there? Hmm? Oh, this again... Having company names or trademarks in java namespaces is a pretty stupid convention. It gets us mess like this... There is no policy that incubating java projects must

Re: [VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC-4)

2012-02-26 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: The Jena PPMC has voted to release  Apache Jena TDB 0.9.0-incubating and we would now be grateful if members of IPMC would review and vote for this release. +1 from me. (justification: 1) I do not consider unintuitive

Re: [VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC2)

2012-02-12 Thread Leo Simons
(back from holiday, still catching up, just replied on jena-dev, but for the record since this is a [VOTE]...) On 8 February 2012 13:03, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: The Jena PPMC has voted to release  Apache Jena TDB 0.9.0-incubating and we would now be grateful if members of IPMC

small, reversible steps

2012-02-12 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, TL;DR Small steps! Less friction! Lazy consensus! Reversible change! Meritocracy! YAY :-D History Use small reversible steps is a powerful idea when evolving things, like when evolving a software architecture. It's an idea that was made popular @ apache by

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-10 Thread Leo Simons
+1 - Leo On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: In the interest of moving the current discussion matters forward, please VOTE on this recommendation to the board by the IPMC. I'll leave the VOTE open for at least the next 72 hours: [ ]

Re: February report review

2012-02-10 Thread Leo Simons
+1 I'd also suggest that the below is a partial answer to the board's questions to the IPMC on how it would improve oversight so it should probably go in our report. cheers, Leo On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Sam

Re: Incubator, or Incubation?

2012-02-02 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, I just wanted to chime in with a +1 for the general direction. I think there's actually a lot of work to do to iron out how to reorganize things. Before digging in, I suggest we abstract out a little bit to see if we have consensus on the overall goals and desired end state before

Re: [names] Public Review

2012-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
Hey Robert, Thanks for this; it was obviously a lot of work! I like the word picks, flow and style of this guide a lot. There's a lot to read here and some new stuff to learn for me -- I confess I've been ignoring as much about trademarks as I can until a time comes up when I actually have a need

Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-30 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:

[RT] Community over policy, and similar thoughts

2012-01-16 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, I started writing this e-mail in November or so. My normal approach with stuff like this is wait for a non-contentious quiet period before starting a new thread, to maximize the chance the words will be read for what they say rather than interpreted in the context of some heated

Re: [RT] Community over policy, and similar thoughts

2012-01-16 Thread Leo Simons
Hey Don, Thanks for your reply. You are quite right, of course. I hope I am also right at the same time :-). Maybe I can clarify... On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Like Apache, But Sexier...LABS?  I can totally see that.  Anyone want to start an Apache

Thoughts about reporting (was: Re: [RT] Community over policy...)

2012-01-16 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: snip/ We may also have semantic gaps.  Leo's [RT] may be presuming that a podling's board report[sic] is merely a bureaucratic requirement. snip/ Hmm :-) And so the threads collide... ...I guess I'll allow it. But since

Re: Q. Forks without concensus?; A. anytime / depends / never without agreement

2012-01-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote:  If there is a community and that community doesn't want Apache to fork the code that they created, then we will not fork that code at Apache.  If the original developers of the code do not want their license changed,

Re: Forks without concensus?

2012-01-03 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, (Pff. I like replying in-line but this is a hard e-mail to reply to in-line so I will top post.) If I understand your policy question: will apache allow an incubating community to show up and start a project when they are forking another project? I'd say, in general, yes, probably, if

Re: [VOTE] Bloodhound to join the Incubator

2012-01-03 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, I felt I had to take a look at this. Like Ralph I was very concerned when I saw Ethan's e-mail. Thanks a lot for writing it Ethan, and thanks for writing it with so much detail. I just read all the e-mail about bloodhound I could find (that I had pretty much ignored when I saw other

Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator

2011-12-21 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, I had to think about this a bunch. We don't have anything like this at apache today. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 15:30, Raju Bitter rajubit...@googlemail.com wrote: (..) Adobe Flex is quite different from most Apache

Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator

2011-12-20 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I would like to propose Flex to be an Apache Incubator project. Here's a link to the proposal: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal Pasted inline: = Apache Flex Proposal = == Abstract == Apache Flex is an

Re: [VOTE] Release jena-2.7.0-incubating (RC1)

2011-12-20 Thread Leo Simons
*bump*. We have 2 +1s from mentors already, so at a minimum we need just one more binding vote to do this release. Anyone have time to do the review? thanks! Leo On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: Please vote on releasing the following as  Apache Jena

Re: Voting time period can be shortened ? (was: [VOTE] Release Kafka 0.7.0-incubating)

2011-11-30 Thread Leo Simons
Yupyup. I thought I'd add a little background rant here, that I wrote for the jena podling a bit ago. Purely optional reading but maybe illuminating for some. cheerio, - Leo On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Benson Margulies

[DISCUSS] how to add many committers to a new project (was: Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-13 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: +1 binding.  Given the sheer number of committers involved in this podling there will be some work to do trying to gel a coherent development community out of the group.  While I am optimistic, I am reminded

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: As the discussions on the OpenOfficeProposal threads seem to be winding down, I would like to initiate the vote to accept OpenOffice.org as an Apache Incubator project. +1 from me (binding). cheers, Leo

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Leo Simons
+1 and welcome on board. cheers, Leo On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Jonathan Hsieh j...@cloudera.com wrote: [  ] +1 Accept Flume for incubation [  ] +0 Indifferent to Flume incubation [  ]  -1 Reject Flume for incubation ... = Flume - A Distributed Log Collection System = == Abstract ==

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Leo Simons
+1! cheers, Leo On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:39 AM, arv...@cloudera.com arv...@cloudera.com wrote: As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop as an Apache Incubator project. The proposal discussion thread and

OOo mirroring (was: Re: A little OOo history)

2011-06-07 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: 30 downloads per day or per month? 52TB per month is still a lot... per day. Look at this chart: http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer.html TL;DR: these bandwidth numbers are not actually that

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-07 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:58 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Since this is a large download, I wonder whether the quoted numbers are impacted at all by timeouts, abandoned downloads attempts, etc.  In other words, is it counting the HTTP GET's?  Or the successful downloads?  That may

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Just remember, we haven't yet even voted on whether or not to accept the podling. These are decisions the podling should be making. Are you ready to call for a vote? :) Whoah! Please don't call for a vote -- I would much

Re: I think individuals need SGAs

2010-12-02 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, I definitely understand the reasoning. Hmm. I think the way to look at it is, it depends, but do whatever is needed to allow apache liberal rights to sublicense all the IP to it's users. The second way to look at it is that logic and legal stuff are not always as closely connected as

Re: Setting up the Jena podling

2010-12-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit up to my eyes in OpenNLP. Can one of you get the initial status page going? On it. - Leo - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Clarification about SGA versus CCLA

2010-11-28 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote: I think of a CCLA as a combination of an SGA to cover the software grant plus an acknowledgement that people in the company are going to work on Apache projects, whether on their own time or company

Re: [VOTE] Accept Jena into the incubator

2010-11-21 Thread Leo Simons
+1 obviously! - Leo On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: +1 binding On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: Lacking a lot of binding votes... +1 binding On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Ross Gardler

Re: [PROPOSAL] Zeta Components - Further comments?

2010-04-22 Thread Leo Simons
On 4/22/10 10:21 AM, Tobias Schlitt wrote: I updated the proposal to reflect the objections regarding the infrastructure. Our questions regarding the import of our SVN history has been cleared. Are there further comments, suggestions, objections? Very nicely written proposal, well done! Looks

Re: [PROPOSAL] Whirr Project

2010-04-22 Thread Leo Simons
On 4/15/10 10:42 PM, Tom White wrote: I would like to propose Whirr as an incubator proposal. Whirr will be a set of libraries for running cloud services, such as Hadoop or Cassandra. The initial code (for Hadoop) is hosted as a Hadoop contrib module, but I believe it would flourish as its own

Re: [VOTE] Subversion podling for graduation

2010-02-12 Thread Leo Simons
+1 - Leo On 2/12/10 4:08 AM, Greg Stein wrote: Hello all, I started a discussion thread a week-ish ago to seek out issues for Subversion's graduation. The couple bits that were raised[1] have been handled, I believe. So with that said, I am unaware of any potential showstoppers, and would

Re: Discussion: graduating Subversion

2010-01-26 Thread Leo Simons
On 1/26/10 6:00 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com wrote: Before calling for a vote to graduate Subversion, I figured it prudent to have a discussion first. I believe Subversion is quite ready (and has been, but the holidays and whatnot kept

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Shindig as an Apache Top Level Project

2010-01-14 Thread Leo Simons
On 1/14/10 11:41 AM, Vincent Siveton wrote: I would like to start an official vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Shindig as a Top Level Project to the Board. +1! - Leo - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

The incubator is here to help projects

2009-12-13 Thread Leo Simons
Hey folks, The incubator is here to help. It is about education. It is about teaching podlings how to work here at apache, about showing people what to be aware of. The incubator is *not* here to assess or judge or dictate or lecture or draft policy or go on long rants about The One True

Re: [PROPOSAL] Validation incubator for JSR-303 Bean Validation

2009-12-11 Thread Leo Simons
On 12/11/09 1:14 AM, Donald Woods wrote: I would like to present an incubator proposal for a new Validation podling, which would be a JSR-303 Bean Validation follow-on to the existing Apache Commons Validation 1.x project, but based on a new incoming codebase with a software grant from Agimatec

Re: [PROPOSAL] OpenCMIS incubator for Content Mangement Interoperability Services (CMIS)

2009-12-11 Thread Leo Simons
Heya OpenCMIS folks, Since it looks like you aren't currently supported by a champion or mentor [1], I thought I'd fill in a small part and inject some warm fuzzies... *Thanks* for open sourcing your project and *thanks* for considering doing it at apache. Its always a lot of effort to go

Re: How documentation != code, and how to do policy (was: Re: Publishing api docs for Subversion)

2009-12-08 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: this is also the case for Nightly Builds, accessible by the public; Legally they are publishing to the public (i.e. opposite of 'for private use') and bound by licenses and agreements. And finally, from Copyright law

Re: OSS Java AAC Decoder?

2009-12-07 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Branko Čibej br...@xbc.nu wrote: Todd Volkert wrote: Does anyone on this list know of an existing open source pure-Java Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) library?  If not, are there any audiophiles on this list that would be interested in incubating such a project

How documentation != code, and how to do policy (was: Re: Publishing api docs for Subversion)

2009-12-05 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, I wasn't going to say anything but since this is dragging on... On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: Would we permit someone to mirror other files from trunk on the website? Yes, definitely. Most projects publish their websites by pushing files into

Re: Question for mentors: crediting the original project?

2009-12-01 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Ross Gardler ross.gard...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/12/1 Scott Wilson scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com: On http://incubator.apache.org/wookie/ is it possible to add somewhere that the original development was funded by the European Commission through the

Re: [VOTE] release Apache VCL 2.1

2009-11-24 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Josh Thompson josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu wrote: The Apache VCL community voted on and approved a proposal to release Apache VCL 2.1.  We would like to request the endorsement of the Incubator PMC to publish this release. The release artifact, sums, and

Re: JavaHL package namespace / migration / compatability

2009-11-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote: As Hyrum suggests, we can use org.apache.subversion.* if we want to create a new (better) Java interface within our versioning rules - but

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Pivot

2009-11-17 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: The Apache Pivot community feels that it is ready to graduate into the Apache Pivot top-level project. +1 from me! cheers, Leo - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [Discussion] Graduation of Pivot Podling

2009-11-16 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, I've checked in on Pivot now and again and reviewing recent activities, I think its definitely ready to leave the nest! I will be happy to vote +1 when it comes to a vote. cheers, Leo On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: The feeling among the

Re: Review-Then-Commit

2009-11-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Matthieu Riou matth...@offthelip.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote: As Martijn alluded to, I think we'd need some more context as to why and how they use RTC. Yes, sorry for the lack of details. The context is

Re: Two other issues to discuss for Subversion

2009-11-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: There are two other issues to discuss for the Subversion podling: * moving the mailing lists directly to @subversion.apache.org * placing the source code at /subversion/ rather than /incubator/subversion/ We are hoping to

Re: Side Discussion; Mentorship [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-10 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:23 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Greg Stein wrote: Sponsors  * Champion: Greg Stein Cool  * Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel Rall Once again, caution against committers == mentors (== 'project

Re: Insanity (of the release process)

2009-11-10 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:07, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Leo Simons wrote: Here's what I understand: 1) Apache rule: all apache releases must be made by PMCs 2) Apache rule: a release needs at least

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.2

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
+1, nice work folks! cheers, Leo On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache Cassandra 0.4.2. We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this release. Cassandra is a

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0 (RC-5)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
+1 from me! cheers, Leo On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nicholas Gallardo nickgalla...@yahoo.com wrote: The Wink community has voted on and approved the release of Wink 1.0 (RC-5).  We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this release. Details of the Wink

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: PS: +1 to start incubation obviously. The record is 2 weeks set for MerlinDeveloper back in 2003...you have 9 days left to try and beat it Hey, you

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings how to work here at Apache. So what are you teaching with e-mails like this, Greg? When you disagree with someone, SHOUT a bit and write a long rant? Or

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0 (RC-5)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo nlgal...@us.ibm.com wrote: Thanks Leo, your input is much appreciated. In addition to this +1, we received a +1 from Kevan Miller in the Wink community vote. Is that vote transportable here? If so, then we just need one more +1 to release

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote: To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole.  The IPMC as a whole has only two roles: approving a proposal and recommending graduation Also,

Re: Insanity (of the release process)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: Also, to be clear, as an IPMC member I spend quite a bit of time with projects where I am not a mentor, casting (binding) votes on things like

Re: Insanity (of the release process)

2009-11-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:16, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: ... Not merit, just binding vote. I agree that it sucks, but it is not something where the incubator has gone awry, it has _always_ been messed up like

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-08 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 14:44, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: All of the existing tags/branches of svn use a tweaked Apache Software License, v1.1, and generally have a file header claims a copyright by CollabNet. trunk is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Libcloud Project

2009-10-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote: I would like to propose incubating the existing Libcloud project to join the ASF Cool! I will try to make the time to help out a little; I'm interested in this space :) cheers, Leo

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0

2009-10-27 Thread Leo Simons
Yo. Looking pretty cool! Sorry, but, few tidbits inline... On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo nlgal...@us.ibm.com wrote: The Wink community voted on and approved the release of Apache Wink 1.0. We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this release.

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0

2009-10-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Bryant Luk bryant@gmail.com wrote: The source release has a LICENSE and a NOTICE file that indicates it contains a bunch of stuff it does not actually contain. AFAICS it should simply have a LICENSE that is just the Apache License and a NOTICE file that has

Re: [VOTE] Release Wink 1.0

2009-10-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Bryant Luk bryant@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the links.  One general comment I have is that I understand this is part of the incubation process (and no offense intended to Leo since obviously taking energy and time for this) but if I can't look and see if

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-rc2

2009-09-16 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: I'm curious though, when you say ...which makes me whinge just enough to not give a +1, is that hypothetical, or is there feedback that we could

Re: [VOTE] Accept Aries proposal for incubation

2009-09-16 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:32 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: After much thought, I am

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-rc2

2009-09-14 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 08:52 +0100, sebb wrote: The source archive contains 3 files that are not in SVN: Cli.tokens CliLexer.java CliParser.java These are generated files. Either store the files in SVN and release

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-rc2

2009-09-14 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: I'm curious though, when you say ...which makes me whinge just enough to not give a +1, is that hypothetical, or is there feedback that we could incorporate so that you would actually vote for our release? Nah, it means

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Empire-db 2.0.5-incubating (rc5)

2009-09-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Francis De Brabandere franci...@gmail.com wrote: I added myself a while ago to the keys in our repo/trunk/tools/KEYS.txt. Should we move that file to trunk and publish it in the dist? I would say so. The advantage of having the KEYS file also in the /dist/ is

Re: Review of cassandra NOTICE and LICENSE requested.

2009-09-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:28 PM, sebbseb...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/09/2009, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: ... Does the release actually *include* JUnit, or is that only used for testing? If so, then it should not be the in the NOTICE file, nor in the binary release. Even if it is

minimal NOTICE files (was: Re: Review of cassandra...)

2009-09-09 Thread Leo Simons
(dropped cassandra-dev) On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, sebbseb...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/09/2009, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: Even if it is not in the release I believe there is nothing wrong with  putting an acknowledgment in the NOTICE file. (putting terms in the  LICENSE file

Re: minimal NOTICE files (was: Re: Review of cassandra...)

2009-09-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Leo Simonsm...@leosimons.com wrote: (dropped cassandra-dev) On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, sebbseb...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/09/2009, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: Even if it is not in the release I believe there is nothing wrong with  putting

Re: Review of cassandra NOTICE and LICENSE requested.

2009-09-09 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM, sebbseb...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/09/2009, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:28 PM, sebbseb...@gmail.com wrote: Does the release actually *include* JUnit, or is that only used for testing? If so, then it should

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.1-BETA2

2009-09-08 Thread Leo Simons
be xoauth_public_key   - [SHINDIG-1107 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1107] -   Clean up shindig dependencies   - [SHINDIG-1135 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1135] -   Bump ehcache to 1.6.1 -- cheers, Leo Simons -- http://lsimons.wordpress.com

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jeremy Hugheshugh...@apache.org wrote: We appreciate any feedback and comments on the proposal. * Any chance of one or two of the other ASF members involved also stepping up as a mentor? * Projects that consist of groups of components often have some problems

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Guillaume Nodetgno...@gmail.com wrote: We have in this proposal a lot of people who are not felix committers and who are not even apache committers at all. They want to work on some code and create a community around it.  The way the ASF works means that the

Re: incorrect terminology: lead developers

2009-08-11 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Greg Browngkbr...@mac.com wrote: If I can attempt to summarize, there is a difference between the *concept* of a leader and the *title* of a leader here at ASF (please correct me if I am wrong). Correct! You missed the rationale in the summary, though :-) *

Re: XAP?

2009-08-10 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Jukka Zittingjukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: So who's going to do what about XAP? I tried understanding the related threads, but I couldn't figure out why it's so complicated. If it were up to me, I'd simply follow [1]. In fact, unless someone takes some action

Making some thrift releases

2009-08-04 Thread Leo Simons
Hey thrift folks, Someone just pointed out http://incubator.apache.org/thrift/download/ I'm afraid that's not exactly what we'd like to see. Can you please spend some time reviewing the pages at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html ? It would be really good if

Re: [Proposal][Vote] Traffic Server

2009-07-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Leif Hedstroml...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: As you know, we've been preparing our proposal to submit Traffic Server to the Incubator for a few weeks now. With the help from our champion (thanks Doug!), and the entire Incubator community, it's my pleasure to submit a

Re: Community readiness-when does it show?

2009-06-24 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: If a community meets all the criteria, but hasn't discovered a new committer (or two) by itself, is the community ready for graduation? Potentially, yes. Likely, no :-) If not, how can we—mentors— nudge the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.0 (RC4)

2009-06-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Ian Bostoni...@tfd.co.uk wrote: Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. ... Proposed release:

Re: [Proposal] Traffic Server

2009-06-18 Thread Leo Simons
Hi, We already got two new mentors signed up (thanks to your posts to the httpd devel list I think). So, we're up to three now, how many do we need to be considered for a vote? 3 mentors is usually considered enough :) Is there anything else missing? Nope, it looks like you have your ducks

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.2 RC3

2009-06-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Todd Volkerttvolk...@gmail.com wrote: The Pivot community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Apache Pivot 1.2 Release Candidate 3. We would now like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the artifacts on the Pivot download page.

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-25 Thread Leo Simons
On May 23, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Santiago Gala wrote: Is it that we have identified a new issue that actually affects _all_ Maven based releases, not just Shindig? No not necessarily. You can use maven to produce binary releases that have all the required legal details inside of them; it just

Re: [PROPOSAL] Graduate Apache Sling as Top Level Project

2009-05-25 Thread Leo Simons
On May 25, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote: The Sling podling has voted on asking the Incubator PMC to support its graduation as a top level project. Enthousiastically and confidently +1. All the best! - Leo smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0

2009-05-23 Thread Leo Simons
On May 21, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Upayavira wrote: I am a mentor for Shindig, but I am aware of a weaknesses of mine as a mentor is that I'm not that knowledgeable or experienced with the release process at Apache, and therefore have not followed this thread in detail, which I really should have. It

Re: Sending CouchDB Software Grant?

2008-03-01 Thread Leo Simons
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Re: TripleSoup and CouchDB

2008-02-23 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 21, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Now that CouchDB has been brought into the Incubator, is there anything that the old TripleSoup project would have to offer? Hmmmh? Like what? TripleSoup code is mostly in C, for serving up triples, using an apache module for HTTP/REST.

Re: Subversion vs other source control systems

2008-02-17 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 17, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Most of the use cases mentioned so far for git, including some where people are using it on top of SVN with ASF projects, run counter to ASF principles. Let me fix that: Use case: work on apache project while on plane

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