Hi Cameron,
This has now been corrected. Walter made mouthpieces in batches using
hand made cutters. Each batch was slightly different, despite his skills on
the lathe. Cutters would wear, tolerance might be slightly off from batch
to batch. We have designed and built a semi-automated t
I made a typo: I should have written if your mouthpiece goes in further
than .75" (not .5") that might be too far.
Sorry!
KB
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Yes, Tina, if you purchase a Lawson lead-pipe, you can get a Lawson
mouthpiece that will fit perfectly and match the acoustic. We ream our
receivers
to the standard 0 Morse taper and make our mouthpiece shanks with the same
taper. This is the generally accepted standard, at least in the U
I'd like to invite everyone to my Lecture/Demonstration/Recital at The
University of New Hampshire.
Monday, May 4, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Johnson Theater, Paul Creative Arts Center
25 College Ave.
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For those of you in the Greater Boston/New England area, I'll be doing a
master class at Boston University tomorrow, Saturday April 11, 2009, 10 AM -
12 PM.
College of Fine Arts Auditorium
855 Commonwealth Ave., Boston, MA
Focus will be on fundamentals and using your practice time t
William, I'm glad you caught that. I'm not a computer pro and I clammed. I
confused operating system with programming language. Our new LIPUX is a
programming language. Perhaps when our company expands with our anticipated
success, you might consider us in your future?
KB
In a messa
Hey Carl,
I suppose there might be a correlation between this and perfect pitch. So
far, we have only been able to test, as I mentioned with the sound color at
the hand in the bell, imperfect pitch.
As to natural horns, I have run some tests late last night on a conch shell,
English coac
Hey Herb,
YES! And you will demonstrate every 100,000th of an inch of the entire
Lexicon for us at KBHC!
See you in June!
KB
In a message dated 4/2/2009 1:01:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu writes:
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date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:27:34 -0700 (PDT)
Mark -
Sid does not play the horn any more. He is retired here in Sugar Hill and
coaches Little League Fast Pitch Girls Softball. He's still got some "stuff"
in his arm, but he wore out his lip years ago. He and Prof. IMG hang out
from time to time but they always get in fights since Sid
Steve!!!
You actually hit on an important part of this research! I had no idea
others were so involved in this sort of thing. Part of the software package
is
the "Musical And Scientific Hornalgorhythmitator" or MASH for short.
To be exact, it takes approximately 4,584 samples to do the
Sorry, Jerry. I can't come to Mccomb as it conflicts w/KBHC.
We are planning, though, to make a "home version" of the program for
consumers. The problem is writing it to work on PC and Mac as this is written
in a
special new programming language we developed especially for horn players
Yes, but very indirectly.
KB
In a message dated 4/2/2009 1:01:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu writes:
message: 3
date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:54:55 -0500
from: "Bill Gross"
subject: RE: [Hornlist] New Acoustical Testing of the Horn
Sid Fitch wasn't involved i
Dear Hornlisters,
I am very excited about the news I will convey to you here and now!
Bruce Lawson and I have been working on this for some time and finally,
today, made a major breakthrough in the acoustic analysis of the horn!
Bruce has written new software, called SoundStill, that can
6:17:26 EDT
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Confucius say: "Herb who sub in youth orchestra Foster learning amongst
young players."
HF wrote: << I often wonder what the audience thinks of my white beard and
hair when I fill in the horn section in the mostly Chinese youth orchestra.
>>
**Feeling the pinch at the grocery
Dear Daniel,
Thank you for your interest and questions.
Our current "Classical" Model 804C is our version of a medium belled horn.
This model made in red brass or yellow brass with yellow brass or ambronze
bell flare would be what many European players would like. We have several
over t
Dear Horn Listers:
Please allow me this opportunity to invite those of you attending the NEHW
at Ithaca College this weekend to visit the Lawson Horns / Kendall Betts Horn
Camp exhibits in room 3304 in the Whalen Center.
I will have the full inventory of Lawson demonstration models, mouthpi
Yes and no, I agree and disagree completely with what everyone has said.
Seriously, if you value your instrument, you should keep it properly
lubricated including the rotors. What you use is not as important as how often
you
use it. I recommend petroleum based products including the recen
I've seen everything from 2 to 36 mics on symphonic recording sessions.
I've done them in concert halls, ballrooms, small and large studios. The most
realistic sound as to what was going on came from the engineers/producers who
used less mics.
As to idiots, the music business is full of t
Jeremy wrote:
In Kendall's example, he was doing it for a jingle. I suppose the recording
engineer could be spared his life for the travesty of auto-tuning a horn
player, but only this once.
Actually, he auto-tuned everybody that day. Even the trombones were in
tune! I still wonder if w
Thanks for your input, Jeremy.
I must respectfully disagree, though, with your assertion that hacks can't
make "good" recordings. I've heard and worked with many so-called "artists"
both pop and classical whose live playing or singing did not live up to their
recordings. I've been on man
I heard that yelled at Ormandy a few times followed by a direct object.
KB
In a message dated 2/23/2009 1:02:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu writes:
date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:49:48 -0600
from: Richard
subject: [Hornlist] Recording story
Joe Scarpelli r
Bob, are you sure about this? The Coleman recording is on RCA Victor -
LSC-2982. It's coupled with 3 other works, all by Coleman. I have that LP.
I
don't have the Schoenberg recording but I do recall it was on Columbia. I
never bought it because I once asked John DeLancie about it and
I never heard this story about Mason, directly or personally but if it came
from Fred Hinger, there must be truth in it. In the old days of recording
the orchestra would play until someone clammed, not necessarily a horn player.
If the conductor didn't hear it, you, as a player were suppos
Dear Horn Listers,
I just received word that Mason Jones passed away last night. He was 89
years old. I'll post details as I get them.
Mason Jones
1919-2009
Principal Horn, Philadelphia Orchestra, 1938-1942, 1946-1978 (Personnel
Manager, 1963-1982)
Principal Horn, US Marine Band, 1942-194
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I do a lot of "doubling" on old horns, mellophones, valved post horn, WTube,
etc. The best course is to get the appropriate mouthpiece for the
particular instrument and have a competent mouthpiece maker cut threads on the
"doubling" cup on which your regular horn screw rim will fit. Has wo
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Subj: Re: RIP Arthur Goldstein
I'm greatly saddened to learn of Art Goldstein's passing. Regrettably, I
never met him but I knew him through s
Dear Hornlorn,
I spoke to the Professor yesterday by short-wave radio as his phone is now
tapped by the FBI. He is in Illinois where he is changing his driver's
license (he's using the address of Geyer's old shop, now demolished and
replaced
with the 164 story office/residential tower h
Dear Horn Community,
My teacher, Prof. I.M. Gestopftmitscheist, manufactures and bottles his own
secret formula valve oil as well as # 5 Duralene White Machine Oil at "The
World's Largest Valve Oil Factory" in Bad Corner, NH. The valve oil is
triple
refined odorless kerosene based wit
Ward Fearn made and patented wooden mouthpieces back in the 50's-60's. The
basis of his patent was that they changed the sound. To my ears, it was
darker, but all of the cups were the very deep, convex funnel type copied from
old Kruspe/Dell'Osa mouthpieces popular back then which tended t
Lenny of Laredo writes:
The ol' desert island question with a twist:
If you could only have 5 recordings of the Mozart concertos (all 4) which
artist would you choose?
This doesn't mean they are "the best", just your favorites for some reason.
So far I have 3 on my list:
Dennis Brain
Au
Jen wrote:
I was especially impressed by the white gloves they include with every horn.
I guess that is in case you decide you need to commit a crime with the
horn, the CSI's will never be able to prove it was yours due to the lack of
fingerprints?
In this case, CSI means "CLAM SCENE
Yeah, I knew this would be confusing to write about. Bar is the bar line.
To clarify, I was speaking of the final note of the phrase, but the final
note of a phrase is not always strong, because sometimes, the music following
takes up where that leaves off. Another general rule, and usu
As taught by Tabuteau, DeLancie, Fearn, etc. and examined to a great degree
in Dr. Thurmond's book:
General rules:
Pick ups are strong, downbeats are weak, the following notes of the bar (or
beat) go "up" through the last beat (or end of the subdivision), to the
weakened downbeat of the n
No, Hans, they have been laying out loud clams on Easter gigs!!! Speaking
of "red eggs," how's the food in China? Oh, I'm confused, that should be
"dead eggs," the hundred year old variety!
KB
Prof. IMG is working on his new, expanded and revised, high tech (with
acoustical spectrum a
Hey, Hans,
Haven't you heard? This is how we hold elections now in the USA! Wait
until November and see what happens!
KB
Registered voter in the "first in the nation" state of NH
PS: With all these candidates for IHS AC, maybe we need to implement a
"primary" or "caucus" and form an "el
Lenny's correct in today's world but in the old days, the Anborg was the
cheaper, and quite viable, alternative to the Sansone. In fact, Sansone and
Anborg used the same parts makers in Italy for valves, etc. I don't know what
screw ring they used but I'm sure it was something. Alloys were
Hey Luke,
You should be fine to replace one with a used one. Plane all four down as
necessary so the tread depths match within 1/32nd." If you can't do that,
then don't worry about it. Do check the depths after each run. If one goes
sooner than the others, replace the whole set with new
Reminds me of a band arrangement of Till Eulenspiegel I played years ago on
a band job. Greatly abridged, of course, but the worse was the horn solo had
been transfigured for old Eb mellophone. It was in Eb concert, and played
ON the beat! The last three notes were in the baritone part.
HORN TRASH
By Kenny B.
There is much to be said about the trashing of the horn. I will give you
some thoughts on the subject now and you will be able to read about these in
greater detail upon the publication of my soon to be completed book on the
subject. I have not decided on the t
I have gone to these horns, exclusively, as I am now 60 and my arm just
isn't what it used to be. They are lighter than a single F, even with the A
valve, and much lighter than a double. They also have excellent aerodynamics.
I
kicked a 42 yard field goal with one recently. My legs ar
First off, I wish to sincerely thank Paul Navarro for joining this
discussion.
I've always been fascinated with the history and evolution of our
instrument, the players, teachers and makers, and we are fortunate in this day
and age
to have a resource such as this list to discuss all aspe
OK, I'll rephrase my statement:
Can the intonation, response and sound of a Conn 8D be altered to suit a
particular player's desire to play better? Yes, it can! Do I despise bad
sounds from a French horn? I most certainly do! Do I want to hear good horn
playing from people? Yes, I do
We use pitch, as do/did many makers. It's a compound of roofing tar and
rosin. Yamaha uses hydroforming and some makers use ice. Lead and cerrobase
are long gone, TTBOMK. I'm experimenting with plastics now, but I have yet to
find the magic combination. Pitch is messy, dangerous to han
Ken, to clarify:
Actually, 3 Kruspes were assayed, all owned by Caswell Neal, well known L.A.
amateur and Kruspe collector (he owned 26 Kruspes at one point). One was
done by Cas and two by Walter. All three horns were from the 1930's. Dave
Weiner's story of earlier was true of one of
Geyer did work for Wunderlich and there was a definite connection with
Schmidt, expecially for parts, in that shop. If Paul Navarro is on the list,
I
think he knows the history well as he apprenticed with Geyer as did others
including Lowell Greer and Ron Pinc.
KB
In a message dated
Dave, no need for puzzles here. The whole thing is a clear as the view from
Mt. Washington, assuming it's not snowing. Conn copied the Kruspe Horner
Model and experimented with the tapers with the assistance of professionals at
the time. Wrap and general dimensions got copied verbatim.
>From what I know, Horner worked exclusively with Kruspe. Maybe they knew
Schmidt? Hard to say. There was a predecessor model, the "Fritz" that Kruspe
made, and the Horner model is similar to that. I think all the German makers
of the time got patents for double horn designs and built th
Kruspe pipes are long F horn tapers as well. The main difference is that
the Kruspe pipes I've seen had more "bumps" or "bubbles," (wider or narrower
spots in the taper) than the Schmidt or 8D pipe.. Why, I don't know but in
general those can have an effect on both sound and response. If
Actually, the 8D leadpipe is copied from the Schmidt, as are many others
including Geyer, Reynolds, King, Olds, Holton, generic Allied, etc. It's a
long, gradual F horn taper. It's probably a better pipe than the Kruspe pipes
in
regard to intonation but both have upper register problems.
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Dear Horn Listers,
Please allow me this opportunity to inform you of the publication of a new
book, I Found My Horn, by British journalist and amateur horn player, Jasper
Rees. This is an autobiographical account of Jasper's return to horn playing
after a 22 year hiatus. The title comes
Well, one of the meanings of "dampen" is "To soundproof." Remember, we're
using English, here!
Happy Clamsaa!
KB
In a message dated 12/25/2007 1:00:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:36:31 -0500
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Actually, you could use plastic steel or braising solder to fill in the
pits. Then grind the daylights out of it followed by lots of buffing to get
it
smooth. On a NS horn, it might look OK. On a brass horn, I think it would
resemble a smooth patch. Maybe I'll try on a junker and let
I can agree with most of what's been said on this subject so I'm not quoting
the posts.
The old cellulose lacquers had about a 5% dampening effect. The harder,
heavier epoxy based finishes used by Conn and most major manufacturers today
has
about a 15% dampening effect. That stuff is us
Steve, you forgot to mention trying the good, custom leadpipes on the really
expensive but ruined horn after you tape up the holes.
I certainly agree that a valve job is the first step in improving an
instrument, if the valves are shot. It might not be the only step, though.
KB
Steve
Good point, Ken! That's precisely why we offer a 30 day trial period with
our leadpipes. In the past year, I've made and sent out pipes for Conn 8D's,
Holton 179 and 180, Alex 103, Berg, Kruspe, Atkinson, Paxman, Jiracek and
Yamaha 667V and 668 horns. All types of players, too, from ama
Hello Howard,
It has to do with your air pressure/air volume ratio. Loud=lots of
volume+lots of pressure. Soft=little volume+lots of pressure, sometimes even
more
than in F. That's about all I can explain here. As I've mentioned to you,
you
should come to camp and I'll help you with
I'm curious to know what your criteria is for judging a leadpipe? What
would you consider that makes a certain pipe better, not just different? I
make
pipes that have a better scale and respond quicker, especially on the Bb
horn, on a Conn 8D, any Conn 8D. Would folks consider that bet
I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Rider's thoughts. I would like to add a few
of my own.
The most important aspect of a rim is your personal comfort. Even if a rim
sounds better or gives you more flexibility, if it feels uncomfortable, it's
probably not right for you.
Many players start f
Besides you, Hans, I can only think of one: Mason Jones.
KB
In a message dated 11/27/2007 1:01:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But how about the many high class professional (full time) players who never
altered their horns, but had a descant at hand for special
Yes, Walt, we all enjoyed getting to know and working with Cecilia at camp.
I'm surprised to hear that her camera survived that particular performance,
as the Prof. hit an Ab above high C, or so people said. He doesn't have
capped teeth, you know, just two steel plates, like that guy in
Yes, discussing MUSIC has a place on this list. The subject breached was
ELLIOT CARTER!
Reminds me of a story about Sir Thomas Beecham. He was being interviewed by
the BBC. The interviewer asked "Sir Thomas, do you ever perform the music
of Arnold Schoenberg?" He replied "No. But I st
Personally, I don't care much for Elliot Carter's music. Valve oil and it's
related subjects are more interesting. Anybody agree?
KB
Peter H. writes:
am always struck by how little interest this sort of thing seems to generate
on this (memphis) list (as opposed to carrying instrument
So much for our "Global Economy." huh? It's d**n difficult to ship a horn
internationally but no problem for containers of lead painted toys (or some
that had "date rape drug" ingredients in them), kilos of illicit drugs, pirated
DVD's, CD's and software to get into the US and other count
Actually, registered mail has a tracking # and makes them more accountable.
We are all still talking about the lesser of all evils, I'm afraid.
KB
Jeremy writes:
Sure FedEx and UPS cut some corners from time to time, but at least they
have the accountability of a tracking number which i
I'm sending this to both lists as it seems to have migrated.
Due to many problems over the years with UPS, in particular two that have
happened since moving the shop to NH, Lawson Horns is no longer shipping by
UPS. The "last straw" was when UPS opened to box to see if the horn (valued
a
Dr. David Steinhorn, a fine amateur hornist with an upper register problem
at the time, and I did some in depth studies some years ago at the University
of MN hospital. We used a bronchoscope designed to investigate lung disease
in infants. It went up the nose, which was filled with lada
Years ago when I was with the Philadelphia Orchestra we were doing a July 4
Concert at the old Robin Hood Dell. Andre Kostalanetz was conducting and of
course, the program was ending with the 1812 Overture. They had two fake
cannons made out of plywood rigged with fireworks on either side
> this
>> repertoire was recorded by both horn players and trumpet players.
>> I would
>> like to know what's the highest note recorded by a horn player?
>>
>> I know that some of that pieces are really high, like Zelenka
>> Capricci,
>> Bach
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But the freedom feeling up there
. no conductors
Reminds me of the story about the bus trip during the ASOL (American
Symphony Orchestra League) convention in San Francisco some years
I've played them both. Not bad pieces, either. On the program with the
one in Eb, I played the Brandenburg 2 solo horn part (you know the one the
trumpet players stole from us) on the second half. It seemed easy, and low,
by
comparison. It's all relative, as they say, I guess.
KB
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Speaking of viola, just to stir up an old joke. The local music store is on
fire, every thing has been pulled to safety except a saxophone, a viola and
an electric guitar. You only have time to save
We will. Just as soon as the last drop is used. Then I'll start using
lanolin on my slides but what for valve oil? Biosene? Corn oil?
KB
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It sure would be great if we
could all lose our depen
Play in a classical music Garage Band. See the world.
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I don't know about how they do this in CA, Hans, but here in Yankeeland, we
call Mayflower Van Lines or rent a U-Haul and do-it-ourselves. Of course,
with gas now approaching "old world" prices, it's getting much more expensive
to
move, so it's probably better to just leave them be except
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All this makes me wonder...are there any good (grade 6
and up) works that have been written for horn and wind
ensemble? Not arrangements, but original works. And
not Str
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Good post about teaching.
As to Bjork, I did think it was a bit bizarre. If they were putting on,
then it was funny. Somehow, I think they were serious. I just thought the
music was crap. As to accounting for taste, maybe this is a right coast/left
coast thing? As to pop music, I ha
Matthew,
Well, you won't change my mind about Bjork. Big time nothing in my book. I
don't know this other band you mention. I'll check it out if I have time.
Your conductor probably thinks ornaments are only on Christmas trees, so
don't worry about it. Just make sure yours are legal.
Elegia fuer Naturhorn, Hermann Baumann
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Richard Burdick wrote:
>I am working on a list of compositions written since 1900 for
>the natural horn. So far the list is quite short.
*
$75 a week! How many hours of instruction do they get?
I teach HS and younger for free at my home. Some of them can't even afford
a horn so I give them refurbished ex-school single F's to play on. Most
parents take interest, which I agree is a good idea, and some don't. Some
would
if
So, you want to be a "pro." Here's what I recommend:
1. Pick 5 or 6 schools that look good to you and apply for scholarships to
them.
2. Go the one that gives you the a free ride. A BM in performance is a
useless degree and has the lowest academic standing so don't pay for it. If
you
I wouldn't use lanolin on the slides. Mixing animal fat with petroleum is
not a good idea. You'll end up with a white slimy mess which eventually will
gum up your valves. Get some wheel bearing grease. A $1.79 tub will last
you a lifetime.
KB
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the day off.
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Yes, if you swallow it or inhale a huge amount of fumes for an extend
I heartily second the motion!
May you have another 100 Long Calls, Hans!
Kendall Betts
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Dear friends of the Horn!
Let me congratulate Prof. Hans Pizka to his 65 years on earth.
I hope he keeps his s
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In a message dated 2/8/2007 1:13:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Fred B commented on what Tony S said on TV:
That must have been the A&E version - the original HBO version was:
"You = $^!&*%# lie like I $^!&*%# play the $^!&*%# french horn."
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In a message dated 2/4/2007 2:45:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
by the way Kendell, I don't think failing to be rich
has anything to do with itmore likely the resent
they did not choose the Horn!! HA
Thanks for your opinion, AU, Matthaw.
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In a message dated 2/3/2007 5:34:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So my questions are as follows: Is this a legitimate college-level (music
education) program?
<< Yes. IMO, it's more than enough. >>
Should I be required to memorize this piece?
<< No >>
Does any
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