Lovely Sunday morning here at the Kotla Cricket Grounds in New Delhi,
and we're all waiting for the Captains of the two teams to come on to
the field for the toss. The 50,000 strong crowd is eagerly waiting for
the match to begin, and excitement in the stands has risen to a fever
pitch in anti
> On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 08:03:41PM +0530, Gora Mohanty wrote:
>> A round of thanks please to our election officer, Jyoti
>> Bhargava. I will follow up with minutes of the AGBM, but
>>
>> The 5 posts were filled unanimously in the following manner:
>>
>> President: Kishore Bhargava - nominated by
Congratulations Executives
Hope u guys keep up the good work
> -Original Message-
> From: kamal_dave_advoc...@yahoo.com
> Sent: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:20:00 -0700 (PDT)
> To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Fw: ILUG-D Elections on May 3 - Resul
Dear Executive Body,
Good luck to you.
Kamal Dave
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Linux Lingam wrote:
> dear all,
>
> best wishes and good cheer to all for their new or renewed
> posts.
>
> regards
> niyam
>
> > The 5 posts were filled unanimously in the following
> manner:
> >
> > President: Kishore
rote:
From: Priya Kumar
Subject: Re: [ilugd] [Freed] Fw: ILUG-D Elections on May 3 - Results
To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list"
Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 1:22 AM
i THINJK
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Linux Lingam wrote:
> dear all,
>
> best wishes and good cheer
i THINJK
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Linux Lingam wrote:
> dear all,
>
> best wishes and good cheer to all for their new or renewed posts.
>
> regards
> niyam
>
> > The 5 posts were filled unanimously in the following manner:
> >
> > President: Kishore Bhargava - nominated by Andrew Lynn
> >
dear all,
best wishes and good cheer to all for their new or renewed posts.
regards
niyam
> The 5 posts were filled unanimously in the following manner:
>
> President: Kishore Bhargava - nominated by Andrew Lynn
> Vice President: Andrew Lynn - self-nominated
> Treasurer: Tirveni Yadav - nominate
er.. 5:30pm is what we agreed on.
regards
niyam
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> Hi,
> We will be having the planing meeting for all
> volunteers for Freed.in 2009 as per the details
> below. If you want to be part of Freed.in 2009,
> you should be at this meeting, as it
Hi,
We are making reservations at the location for 15 people,
and there are currently 10 signed up on the Wiki page at
http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/Main/OpenMokoMeet
One important thing that I forgot to mention is that the
place apparently has a dress code: full pants, and shoes. Mos
Addition :-
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 13:31, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:04:07 +0530
> abhishek jain wrote:
> [...]
>> I will also be there, i live in east delhi and would not like to go alone,
>> anyone else going from nearby,
> [...]
>
> I have added a page on the ILUG-D Wiki at
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:23:19 +0530
Dhiraj Gaur wrote:
> Well that is precisely i never wanted to do. i.e. remember one more username
> password .
[...]
Well, surely that is *your* problem?
Viewing the Wiki is open to all, but editing cannot be open
without getting tonnes of spam. As a practical
Well that is precisely i never wanted to do. i.e. remember one more username
password .
Anyways I have added there.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:50:55 +0530
> Dhiraj Gaur wrote:
>
> > HI
> > I am not registered at Twiki so please add my name ther
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:50:55 +0530
Dhiraj Gaur wrote:
> HI
> I am not registered at Twiki so please add my name there.
[...]
It is a public Wiki. You can register yourself via the
"Register" link on a blue background towards the top of
the left-hand sidebar.
Regards,
Gora
_
HI
I am not registered at Twiki so please add my name there.
Regards
Dhiraj Gaur
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> Hi,
> As there is growing interest from people in coming to
> this meeting, and as it is on a Sat., it might make sense
> to make reservations at the pub. In
Hi,
As there is growing interest from people in coming to
this meeting, and as it is on a Sat., it might make sense
to make reservations at the pub. In order to do that, we
will need to have an estimate of the number of people
planning to attend. So, please add your name at the
bottom of the Wiki
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:04:07 +0530
abhishek jain wrote:
[...]
> I will also be there, i live in east delhi and would not like to go alone,
> anyone else going from nearby,
[...]
I have added a page on the ILUG-D Wiki at
http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/Main/OpenMokoMeet
where people can
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Puneet Goel wrote:
> I will also be there.
>
> good initiative.
>
> Thanks
> Puneet
> 9811005370
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Dhiraj Gaur
> wrote:
>
I will also be there, i live in east delhi and would not like to go alone,
anyone else going from nearby,
I will also be there.
good initiative.
Thanks
Puneet
9811005370
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Dhiraj Gaur wrote:
> Count me In, I ll be there for sure.
>
> Regards
>
> Dhiraj gaur
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:15 PM, shirish wrote:
>
> > Reply in-line :-
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:
Count me In, I ll be there for sure.
Regards
Dhiraj gaur
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:15 PM, shirish wrote:
> Reply in-line :-
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:58, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hi all,
>
> > Some people interested in the OpenMoko are planning to
> > meet up at the new micro-bre
Reply in-line :-
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:58, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> Hi,
Hi all,
> Some people interested in the OpenMoko are planning to
> meet up at the new micro-brewery in Gurgaon on the 31st
> of Jan., the Sat. after the coming one. Everyone is
> welcome to attend, especially people inte
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> The permissions on the Wiki have now been fixed,
> and one should be able to view all pages without
> needing to register. Of course, you will need to
> register in order to edit pages.
>
> Documents of immedi
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> We have been contacted by an organisation called
> the G.I.S.S. committee, which is dedicated to the
> distribution of free media through FOSS streaming
> technologies. [snip]
sounds interesting.
> Thus, they wer
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:13:10 +0530
"manoj sinal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Gora,
>
> please explain the schedule of events clearly.
[...]
Sorry, the meeting is 3-5pm as it said in the subject line,
and the header, and not 1-5pm as in the schedule. Is that
what you meant?
Th
2008/8/6 Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello all,
> Sorry for the short period of notice, but we will have an
> ILUG-Delhi meeting from 3-5pm, Sun., 10th Aug., at Sarai,
+1 for me.
--
Regards,
Sudev Barar
Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there.
PS: I know most of
-Original Message-
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.org] On Behalf Of Raj Mathur
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:42 AM
To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
Cc: Freed.in managers
Subject: Re: [Freed-managers] [ilugd] ILUG-D/Freed workshop programme, and
funding
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H! Gora,
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Let me now make the counter-arguments that I should have raised
> at the meeting. For the moment, I will put on my Sarai hat, and
> ask hard questions of you all:
> (a) As per my original proposal, say 8-10
Gora Mohanty wrote:
> o Some photos from the event were taken by Kishore Bhargava,
> who will be posting them online, and announcing the same
> soon. Anyone else who took photos is also requested to make
> them available online.
As promised by Gora:
http://www.kishorebhargava.com/ga
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 01:02:43 +0530
"Prakhar Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Various directions have been put up on the wiki.
> kindly check:
> http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/InderprasthaWorkshop
[...]
Thanks for doing this. I have also added the address, and a
WikiMapia
>This
>location acquires greater significance when seen from the point of view of
>industries and corporate houses for the NCR, looking for fresh pass out >for
>recruitment.
Assuming that this is not a cut&paste job from the website, I'm not sure this
is of any great relevance to the issue at ha
Various directions have been put up on the wiki.
kindly check:
http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/InderprasthaWorkshop
IPEC Location (going by address would be rather difficult):
IPEC is situated in the Delhi NCR. It offers a comfortable and convenient
approach from Noida, Delhi
On Wednesday 04 Jun 2008, Gora Mohanty wrote:
> [snip]
> o Sahibabad is just across the Delhi-Haryana border, and quite
> easily accessible. However, we are trying to arrange rides
> for anyone interested. Please sign up at
Shirley you mean, Delhi-UP border? Or is this a different Sahibabad?
Thanks.
I will have a look on these tools.
-Ravi
On Jan 29, 2008 12:07 PM, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Does anyone know which is a good Open-Source based Online Trouble Ticket
> > Management System?
> >
> > It should have the follo
On Tuesday 29 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone know which is a good Open-Source based Online Trouble Ticket
> Management System?
>
> It should have the following.
> - MySQL/php based
> - Separate Login for each client
> - Separate login for each Support executive
> - Client should b
dear all,
[snip]
> There was recently a
> sprint by the django community. About a 100 people all around the
> world participated. The main group was in Chicago, with other smaller
> groups in other cities and many individuals sitting in their homes.
> It was all done over IRC. IRC can be used in tw
> Please do
> remember that Freed.in is what the community wants it
> to be, so if you do not like the change of focus, please
> be at the meeting, and make yourselves heard.
This focus on "what the community wants", in my opinion, does not
always work. There are things which need to be driven by
--- "Pushp ..." wrote:
[snip...]
> * Sorry for wasting your precious time by
> interfering in
> between.Mysincere appologies to all if u find this
> mail a
> CRAP.
You seem to have used a HTML format and set all text
within your email to be bold. Kindly avoid that in
future. Great to know th
On 28-Dec-07, at 7:13 PM, Raj Mathur wrote:
>>> IRC is inelegant for a participatory meet.
>>
>> BS - it works just fine
>
> Thanks for volunteering to sit in at the meet and relay messages
> between
> the local and the IRC participants :)
Is this intended to be a joke? If so, it is in very po
On Friday 28 Dec 2007, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On 28-Dec-07, at 5:34 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:
> > IRC is inelegant for a participatory meet.
>
> BS - it works just fine
Thanks for volunteering to sit in at the meet and relay messages between
the local and the IRC participants :)
Regards,
-- R
On 28-Dec-07, at 5:34 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:
> IRC is inelegant for a participatory meet.
BS - it works just fine
--
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate, NRC-FOSS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/
_
On Dec 28, 2007 2:16 PM, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 13:49 +0530, Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote:
> [...]
> > I am wondering if it will be possible to participate via
> > IRC. That would be great though.
> [...]
>
> We can certainly try that, though it ha
On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 13:49 +0530, Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote:
[...]
> I am wondering if it will be possible to participate via
> IRC. That would be great though.
[...]
We can certainly try that, though it has not worked well in
the past. Maybe, if we specifically allocate time for IRC
Hi,
On Dec 28, 2007 12:11 PM, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Looking at the recent interest in the direction taken
> by Freed.in, I thought that it would be useful to have
> an ILUG-Delhi meeting as soon as possible. Please do
> remember that Freed.in is what the community wants
dear gora,
On Dec 28, 2007 12:11 PM, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Here are the details:
>Event: ILUG-Delhi meeting
>Date:Sun., Dec. 30th
>Time:15:00 (3.00pm)
>Agenda:
> o Direction, and scope for Freed.in
> o Specific plans for
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 13:45 +0530, Saurabh Nanda wrote:
> > 1. Free knowledge!
> >a. Using free formats e.g. ODF, PDF, etc.
> >b. Using non-free formats e.g. .DOC, etc.
>
> > 1a. Free knowledge using free formats
> > i. Using free tools - e.g. OOo
> > ii. Using non-free tools - e.g
Hullo,
--- Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>o Have fewer tracks, and more focussed,
> higher-quality
> talks.
+1
I was overwhelmed by the number of talks there were
this year, which is not always a bad thing :)
Are the presentations up someplace yet, btw?
>
> 4. We will act
On 14/09/2007, Gora Mohanty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I imagine people have seen this on the ILUG-D list.
> Can someone make it on Sat.? I am sorry, but this
> Sat. is impossible for me.
>
I am blocked up to 15/;30 at Faridabad so can not make it Saturday.
--
Regards,
Sudev Barar
See you a
--- Samrat Mitra wrote:
> i would love to join this mailing list to enhance my
> knowledge
That'll happen with a better probability value on
ILUG-D, ILUG-C or GLUG-BOM mailing list. Freed list
has very low traffic because, people don't use it.
Subscribe to the above mailing lists. :)
--
http://
Hi all,
Freed Preparations are heating up , There has been high deman among
present volunteers for a sperate mailing list for freed volunteers,
Which is going to be functional from now at
http://frodo.hserus.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freed-volunteers
Please everybody who wanted to be a part o
hi,
am posting here as i cant find the mailing list address for freed.
1. shouldnt there be a link to the mailing list on the home page?
2. why are odf and plain text not on the accepted formats for papers?
3. unless there is really and speaker called 'test', kindly remove
the guy's name from th
Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> when i took up the practice of law, I was advised: 'if you have no
> facts and a weak case, abuse your opponent'.
Really? I, on the other hand, was taught to rely on the logical analysis of
facts and evidence.
> I think we'll stop here.
Yeah, ok
On 10-May-07, at 5:25 PM, PJ wrote:
> You, on the other hand, keep doing the internet equivalent of
>
>
> La La La - I can't hear you - La La La
>
when i took up the practice of law, I was advised: 'if you have no
facts and a weak case, abuse your opponent'. I think we'll stop here.
--
re
PJ wrote:
> Maybe the proprietary OSX UI layer would count, since it wraps a BSD based
> system. But I'm not sure it really matters, since it is just a wrapper, so
> you could do the same to a GPL based system. I'll only really worry about
> usurping if Apple becomes dominant, rather than the 2nd t
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> facts please.
[snip]
> again, show one
[snip]
> again - facts please
I don't think this is leading anywhere useful.
I and others have already spoonfed you with enough facts along with the
reasoning behind them.
You, on the other hand, keep doing the internet equiva
Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind your
> theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too many
> people throw the "BSD networking stack" as an example whenever this
> discussion comes up, but are at a lo
> You are being deliberately dense here, which makes rational discussion hard.
>
> For:
>
> FTP
>
> read:
>
> The implementation of the FTP protocol in the software named ftp.exe on win98
> for
> example.
>
>> and how did that affect the FTP protocol?
>
> It did not (AFAIK) and I did not cl
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> FTP is software? I always thought it was a protocol
>
Sigh. Frederick, I know you're smarter than this.
You are being deliberately dense here, which makes rational discussion hard.
For:
FTP
read:
The implementation of the FTP protocol in the software named ft
> > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> >> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind
> >> your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too
> >> many people throw the "BSD networking stack" as an example whenever
> >> this discussi
Quoting PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >
> > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind
> > > your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk.
Quoting PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > so, in short, your statement that many important BSD projects are in
> > danger is not based on any factual knowledge or research.
>
> I've told you a principle that has been shown to hold true (viz. danger o
Quoting Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Raj Mathur wrote:
> > On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind
> >> your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too
> >> many
Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> > [snip]
> > I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind
> > your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too
> > many people throw the "BSD networking
Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> so, in short, your statement that many important BSD projects are in
> danger is not based on any factual knowledge or research.
I've told you a principle that has been shown to hold true (viz. danger of BSD
projects being usurped for all projects
Raj Mathur wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
>> [snip]
>> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind
>> your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too
>> many people throw the "BSD networking stack" as an example whenever
On 09-May-07, at 7:15 PM, Raj Mathur wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
>> [snip]
>> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind
>> your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too
>> many people throw the "BSD networking s
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 18:15, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> [snip]
> I have a feeling that Kenneth is just asking for some facts behind
> your theory of how BSD code is being abused by M$ and its ilk. Too
> many people throw the "BSD networking stack" as an example whenever
> this discussion comes
On 09-May-07, at 5:34 PM, PJ wrote:
>> name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky
>> and talented developers because we have already established that bsd
>> +luck+talent != danger)
>
> Sure.
>
> I just need a list of names of projects that are important && that
> will be
PJ wrote:
> Kenneth Gonsalves writes:
>
>> name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky
>> and talented developers because we have already established that bsd
>> +luck+talent != danger)
>
>
> 2. Use your clairvoyance to figure out which project is going to be unlucky
On 09-May-07, at 1:49 PM, PJ wrote:
> > Other less-established but important projects under any BSD style
> > licence are
> > still at risk.
Kenneth Gonsalves writes:
> name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky
> and talented developers because we have already estab
On 09-May-07, at 1:49 PM, PJ wrote:
> Other less-established but important projects under any BSD style
> licence are
> still at risk.
name some. or name at least one or two (stick to those without lucky
and talented developers because we have already established that bsd
+luck+talent != da
> On 09-May-07, at 10:38 AM, PJ wrote:
>
> > BSD style licencing is better than most, but such licences have had a
> > role in helping MS Windows to its current position (which is why Bill
> > Gates favours them).
Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> and which is why apache is running
On 09-May-07, at 10:38 AM, PJ wrote:
> BSD style licencing is better than most, but such licences have had a
> role in helping MS Windows to its current position (which is why Bill
> Gates favours them).
and which is why apache is running rings around IIS - please mix in a
few facts also into
> Kenneth Gonsalves writes:
> > in short, people who use BSD licenses are talented and lucky - I
> > could live with that
PJ writes:
> Not relying on luck in the first place would seem wiser.
I would also suggest that the hall-of-shame type of sites; spam;
viruses and evil botnets are a conseq
Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> in short, people who use BSD licenses are talented and lucky - I
> could live with that
Not relying on luck in the first place would seem wiser.
PJ
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On 07-May-07, at 10:13 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> All you guys are fucking imbeciles.
>
> My goodness. Such a perfect example of looking into a mirror.
more like a microsoft marketing slogan - eye-catching, grammaticaly
correct but contributes nothing to the discussion
--
regar
On 07-May-07, at 9:55 PM, PJ wrote:
>> Incidently how come things like apache
>> and postgresql are surviving inspite of bsd style licenses - not
>> to speak about
>> perl, php, python etc etc. Or are the authors of all these morons
>> who dont
>> understand what is freedom?
>
> The authors o
On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:31:24 +0530, Pankaj kaushal
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> All you guys are fucking imbeciles.
My goodness. Such a perfect example of looking into a mirror.
manoj
--
It's bad enough that life is a rat-race, but why do the rats always have
to win?
Manoj Sri
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> as far as I am concerned, both gpl and bsd style licenses have their place. I
> would reserve gpl for really innovative code (and there is very little of
> that)
> and keep bsd style licenses for the rest.
I understand your reasoning though your conclusion is fall
All you guys are fucking imbeciles.
P.
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On Monday 07 May 2007 11:27, Anant Narayanan wrote:
> [snip]
> When someone makes minor changes to BSD-licensed code it is unlikely
> that they are going to make millions of dollars out of it. If they
> are, chances are that they've made significant ch
On Monday 07 May 2007 11:36, Anant Narayanan wrote:
> [snip]
> Anything is excess is bad, and in a world where "good" is a relative
> term, it is not tough to interpret FSF's actions as monopolistic.
> Basically you could say that the FSF is the Microsoft of the other
> side :)
I fail to see the s
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> as far as I am concerned, both gpl and bsd style licenses have their place. I
> would reserve gpl for really innovative code (and there is very little of
> that)
> and keep bsd style licenses for the rest. Incidently how come things like
> apache
> and postgresql are su
PJ wrote:
> The GPL compatible licences are designed to preserve freedom for the users.
> The BSD style licences have helped Microsoft take away freedom from the users.
I disagree. Something licensed under the BSD license always remains free
and the source code open to all. It is only when changes
Quoting Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Well, in software,
> >> there are several known examples where Microsoft has taken BSD code,
> altered
> >> it, and tried to lock users in to their way of doing things so that they
> can
> >> exploit them forever after. To an extent they have succe
Quoting PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I would not agree that Freedel has been on a reasonable footing.
> > Edition 2 was a bit of a flop.
>
> Why do you say that?
i wasnt there, but was told that especially on the second day attendance was
extremely thin. If I was misinformed, my apologies
regar
Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> GPL has redefined the word "freedom". True freedom means that anyone can
> do whatever they want with code. Hence the BSD style licenses are truly
> "free". GPL-like freedom, on the other hand is "forced freedom". Forced
> freedom, IMHO, is as good
> On 5/5/07, PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The GPL [...] has a restriction that is designed to prevent
> > non-sharing of code.
Shakthi Kannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How?
I am unsure if that was a rhetorical question.
> GPL has four freedoms:
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw
Thanks for the responses all. Lots of threads, lots of
people, I'm going to mix and match responses here.
Mine begin inline, with a ==
PJ:
.. I am unsure of your objection. Logically, being
freed doesn't mean that you
are forever free. You still run the risk of being
enslaved again...
== We haven
On 06/05/07, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2007 02:05:40 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya said:
> > Anant Narayanan wrote:
> Well, in software, there are several known examples where Microsoft
eeer no [OT] or {WayOT] tag there??
Important stuff this and refre
On Sun, 06 May 2007 02:05:40 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya said:
> Anant Narayanan wrote:
Well, in software, there are several known examples where Microsoft
has taken BSD code, altered it, and tried to lock users in to their
way of doing things so that they can exploit them forever a
Anant Narayanan wrote:
>>> Well, in software,
>>> there are several known examples where Microsoft has taken BSD code, altered
>>> it, and tried to lock users in to their way of doing things so that they can
>>> exploit them forever after. To an extent they have succeeded more than
>>> failed.
>>
>> Well, in software,
>> there are several known examples where Microsoft has taken BSD code, altered
>> it, and tried to lock users in to their way of doing things so that they can
>> exploit them forever after. To an extent they have succeeded more than
>> failed.
>
> This is the reason why GPL
Hi,
Not sure if this is going off-topic. Anyways, my thoughts below:
On 5/5/07, PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Me and some others regard the extra freedom of the BSD style licences as being
> analogous to the granting freedom to a plantation holder to own slaves,
Isn't that cruel?
> The GPL, f
I wrote:
> > > I'm interested in the free as in freedom part of what ILUGD is
> > about. The
> > impression I get is that ILUGD tends to be heavily focussed on the
> > free as
> > in freedom part.
Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in which case you have to focus on FOSS - regardl
On 05-May-07, at 3:25 PM, PJ wrote:
> Good point Kenneth.
>
> I don't know if the (constitutional type) of rules of ILUGD say that
> ILUGD should be about Linux rather than GNU/Linux.
>
> I choose to use the label GNU/Linux (if I can remember to) because
> for me
> the concept of freedom embodi
Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Note that I am not saying that it is obligatory for anybody present to answer
these queries.
> I am only saying that we are not rebuffed with a canned "you should have been
at the meeting"
> answer.
>
You're quite right. A canned response like th
Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 05-May-07, at 11:31 AM, PJ wrote:
>
> > Anyway, attend the meetings if you have an interest in the
> > reasoning behind
> > ilugd decisions - it's open to all GNU/Linux users, we welcome
> > inputs, and all
> > proposals can be questioned/mod
Sudev Barar wrote:
> Yep, one of the LUGD-Bang guys. Howdy.
Hey, Sudev. How are ya? ;)
> FREED : My take is that it can be one or the other. Domain
> availability was one not so smal consideration.
One thing that escapes me. Do we absolutely need to have a separate
domain for the event? A separ
> Of course you have every right to discuss any decision on the mailing list,
> and even dispute it for that matter. However, I hope you realise that it is
> difficult to cater to every demand on this list. For example, it took me
> nearly two hours to prepare the minutes that you describe as too t
On 05/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Anyway, attend the meetings if you have an interest in the reasoning
> >> behind
> >> ilugd decisions - it's open to all GNU/Linux users, we welcome inputs,
> >> and all
> >> proposals can be questioned/modified etc.
> >
> > I would att
> Viksit Gaur wrote:
>> Hullo,
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out what this name embodies.
>>
>> "Freed" elicits, atleast in me, notions of a bunch of
>> previously subjugated people now unshackled by
>> something. Not necessarily with respect to FOSS. It
>> could be a revolt, a coup de etat or whatev
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