[Mailman-Users] Re: lots of bounces after server move

2024-06-26 Thread Jim Dory
On 6/25/24 15:32, Dmitri Maziuk wrote: On 6/25/24 12:51, Jim Dory wrote: 2. SMTP: Reverse DNS doesn't match SMTP Banner (The SMTP banner issued by your email server did not contain the hostname we resolved for your server’s IP address.) #2 - Reverse DNS - I have PTR records set for both

[Mailman-Users] Re: lots of bounces after server move

2024-06-25 Thread Jim Dory
On 6/25/24 09:13, Carl Zwanzig wrote: Just to be sure, I would try your host's name in one of the DNS/email test pages, such as https://mxtoolbox.com/emailhealth/ (there are others). Thanks Carl, a very good resource. I put in compute.nomekennelclub.com and it shows nomekennelclub.com in

[Mailman-Users] Re: lots of bounces after server move

2024-06-24 Thread Jim Dory
On 6/24/24 17:16, Jim Dory wrote: I have not done anything yet. Under Privacy Options/Sender Filters, I have for dmarc_moderation_action : Munge, dmarc_quarantine_moderation_action as Yes, dmarc_none_moderation_action is No, and the rest is blank. I don't really understand any

[Mailman-Users] Re: lots of bounces after server move

2024-06-24 Thread Jim Dory
I have not done anything yet. Under Privacy Options/Sender Filters, I have for dmarc_moderation_action : Munge, dmarc_quarantine_moderation_action as Yes, dmarc_none_moderation_action is No, and the rest is blank. I don't really understand any of that but I think I set them so on advice.

[Mailman-Users] Re: lots of bounces after server move

2024-06-24 Thread Jim Dory
On 6/24/24 15:40, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Hi Jim, Not an expert here, but a thought comes to mind. When you moved to a new domain name, did you update your DMARC, DKIM, and SPF records? (Whichever you use, if any.) Maybe the recipients think the new server is not authorized to send on your

[Mailman-Users] Re: lots of bounces after server move

2024-06-24 Thread Jim Dory
Thank you Mark and Dmitri, On 6/24/24 13:08, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 6/24/24 12:13, Jim Dory wrote: I just had my hosting company move our mailing list to an updated server. Now I'm suddenly getting a lot of bounces of the sort: 550 5.4.1 Recipient address rejected: Access denied This one

[Mailman-Users] lots of bounces after server move

2024-06-24 Thread Jim Dory
t;550 5.4.1 recipient address rejected" (a local company's employees mostly) thanks for the help. /jim -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.

[Mailman-Users] Re: Need help diagnosing an intermittent DMARC mung failure

2024-04-20 Thread Jim P. via Mailman-Users
On Sat, 2024-04-20 at 20:08 -0500, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Are there any log entries, or debugging, that could be enabled / > turned up to help diagnose this? The vette log should have info about the dmarc lookups or lack of dmarc for a domain

[Mailman-Users] Re: Need help diagnosing an intermittent DMARC mung failure

2024-04-20 Thread Jim P. via Mailman-Users
at_sign = email.rfind('@') if at_sign < 1: return False Are you able to reliably dig the sender's DMARC record over and over in a loop to test the reliability of the sender's DNS, perhaps even testing each of their nameservers ind

[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

2023-12-13 Thread Jim Dory
On 12/13/23 17:07, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 12/13/23 17:48, Jim Dory wrote: My bad.. rather than Bad Request error (oiy, my memory), the actual error when enabling the RECAPTCHA strings is this:     Bug in Mailman version   We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster

[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

2023-12-13 Thread Jim Dory
On 12/13/23 12:08, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 12/13/23 10:00, Jim Dory wrote: As for listinfo.html, I see 2 pertinent files. on under ../en/templates (this list is just english) and under ../lists/[name of our list]/ . The templates version includes a few lines of captcha which the lists version

[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

2023-12-13 Thread Jim Dory
On 12/13/23 01:04, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Jim Dory writes: > I've started getting these spamming attacks again so thought I > would dive into trying this recaptcha. I got the keys for V2 > recaptcha from google and put the 2 lines at the bottom of the > mm_cfg.py with

[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

2023-12-12 Thread Jim Dory
On 10/24/23 06:04, David L. Dewey wrote: Quoting Jim Dory (ja...@dorydesign.com): On 10/23/23 17:38, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2023, dde...@cyberthugs.com wrote: .. Implementing the google captcha solution to Mailman a week or so ago stopped it dead. For now... Hi

[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

2023-10-23 Thread Jim Dory
On 10/23/23 17:38, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2023, dde...@cyberthugs.com wrote: .. Implementing the google captcha solution to Mailman a week or so ago stopped it dead. For now... Hi Jim, Interesting, and thanks for posting. Can you please describe, briefly

[Mailman-Users] spamming

2023-10-23 Thread Jim Dory
ers, which are available in the reply-to headers. Don't know if there's anything I can do. Anyone else dealing with this? thanks. Jim -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python

[Mailman-Users] Re: Python 2.7.15, etc, vs Python3...

2023-07-17 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
this project: https://github.com/jaredmauch/mailman2-python3/ -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.o

[Mailman-Users] Re: Yahoo blocking their emails

2023-03-09 Thread Jim Dory
On 3/9/23 16:54, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 3/9/23 11:24, annette carter wrote: Please help. Where do I go to stop Yahoo and all of it's associated ISPs from blacklisting my subscribers, please? See these FAQ articles: https://wiki.list.org/x/17891458 https://wiki.list.org/x/17891477

[Mailman-Users] Re: User receiving mail, but not subscribed

2021-08-17 Thread Jim Dory
k. She is out of the office for the rest of the week so will have to wait and see. There's over 1500 subscribers so probably best to search on her corporation's domain - that may return maybe around a couple dozen or so - rather than digest subscribers which are probably a ton. thank

[Mailman-Users] Re: User receiving mail, but not subscribed

2021-08-16 Thread Jim Dory
On 8/16/21 11:10 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 8/16/2021 10:30 AM, Jim Dory wrote: I've asked her to run it by the IT department of her corporation, but thought I would ask here in case there is something I need to do instead. I thought that the "on behalf of listname-requ...@domai

[Mailman-Users] Re: User receiving mail, but not subscribed

2021-08-16 Thread Jim Dory
this person contacts her IT dept. to try and figure this out. Thanks for the reply!   /jim -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3

[Mailman-Users] User receiving mail, but not subscribed

2021-08-16 Thread Jim Dory
@domain.com" was pretty unusual, or something I don't usually see anyway. thanks, Jim -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/m

[Mailman-Users] Re: AT RBL again

2021-03-30 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
g MTAs? > > > > Almost certainly. > > Any suggestions/recommendations? Vultr, RamNode, and HostUS are solid ones. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-user

[Mailman-Users] Re: unwanted auto removal of subscribers

2021-03-18 Thread Jim Dory
On 3/18/21 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 3/18/21 12:35 PM, Jim Dory wrote: Anyway - after 3 weeks of no bounces, I just got a bunch of GCI email users automatically unsubscribed from the list, with this message: "... has been removed from Nome-announce. (disabled address)" My bo

[Mailman-Users] unwanted auto removal of subscribers

2021-03-18 Thread Jim Dory
ounce. (disabled address)" My bounce score threshold is set at 50.0, and the bounce_info_stale_after is 4. Number of days bounce-you-are-disabled is 7. So I know it has been more than a week since any bounces. I'm wondering about this - if I have a setting wrong, or what.

[Mailman-Users] Re: mail delivery failed on my email [SOLVED]

2021-03-03 Thread Jim Dory
Ok, I started a ticket with the hosting service and they found a misconfigure in the mail routing. I'm not exactly clear on the issue but since the server name has changed a few times and we migrated it once or twice - plus my inexperience - something got borked. Here is what the tech guy said:

[Mailman-Users] Re: mail delivery failed on my email

2021-03-02 Thread Jim Dory
On 3/2/21 7:46 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 3/2/21 5:10 PM, Jim Dory wrote:   I just tried to send a message and got this: "A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: pipe to |/usr/local/c

[Mailman-Users] mail delivery failed on my email

2021-03-02 Thread Jim Dory
I manage a list through CPanel v. 94.0.2 and I also have server access (from our paid host). Mailman v.2.1.33-2.cp1186.  I just tried to send a message and got this: "A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-20 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Sun, 2020-09-20 at 23:40 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > > On Sun, 2020-09-20 at 18:23 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > I imagine ARC support is something Jim Popovitch would like to have. > > > You imagine w

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-20 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
; fairly easy to port (I'm pretty sure the underlying libraries are 2/3 > compatible). (Ports are fair game because we're talking "future", and > I imagine ARC support is something Jim Popovitch would like to have.) You imagine wrong. I see ARC as a piece of the delivery ph

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-17 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 14:56 -0400, Brian Carpenter wrote: > On 9/17/20 2:27 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 14:15 -0400, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > Absolutely not. I'm intrigued by the idea of mailman-core (1/3 of mm3) > > with a ligh

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-17 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 14:15 -0400, Brian Carpenter wrote: > On 9/17/20 1:45 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > That's kind of my point. mm2 works for me and my use, I'd much rather > > prefer to keep it working than to rip it out and replace it, including > > inst

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-17 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 09:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 9/17/20 8:04 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 07:54 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > Forward to where? > > > > Oh the irony of you asking that question. :) If we go bac

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-17 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 07:54 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 9/17/20 7:36 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > Here's my POV, if mm2 can (and it appears to me that it > > can somewhat easily) be fixed to use py3 then all the installed bases of > > mm2 don't have to l

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-17 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
save some $$, by not having to significantly change their Mailman installation or server size, etc. What I'm trying to do is provide a painless (or, at least a less painful) path forward for all those existing Mailman sites that don't want to deal with all the same issues that are appearing over o

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-17 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 18:47 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > > On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 02:34 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > > You don't need to have a title, an @mailman email address, or a commit &

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-16 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
by a teacher or professor criticizing their child. > "Manage just the new features" sounds like a terrible deal for the > vast majority of admins and subscribers, and a very bad look for GNU > Mailman. Let GNU Mailman, the

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-15 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Tue, 2020-09-15 at 21:11 -0400, Brian Carpenter wrote: > On 9/15/20 8:18 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > A small group, including myself, are planning to present a proposal. We > > are in the early stage of defining what that will involve, but we are > >

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-15 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Tue, 2020-09-15 at 16:51 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 9/15/20 12:41 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I demanded nothing. I was told by Mark that I would need to apply for > > all those perks (sans the Cabal seat) when all I offered to do was > > suppor

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-15 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Wed, 2020-09-16 at 03:51 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > > > I personally think that you, Stephen, are digging high and low to find > > any reason for Mailman2 to not continue forward under the Mailman > > umbrella. >

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-15 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Tue, 2020-09-15 at 08:45 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 9/15/20 4:40 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I'd use the new MM3 archive of this list to link to your posts, but > > interacting with it is an abysmal time waste. At a minimum someone > > should put B

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-15 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Tue, 2020-09-15 at 16:10 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > > > See Stephens previous comments about how there was no way he could > > or would work with anyone working on mm2 because it was against his > > object

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-13 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Sun, 2020-09-13 at 09:16 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 9/13/20 9:01 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > What I want to hear from the Cabal is that there is support and > > appreciation for efforts by others to carry on with mm2 in any direction &g

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-13 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Sun, 2020-09-13 at 15:36 +, Mark Sapiro wrote: > OK, I'm back and more or less caught up so I'm ready to continue this > discussion. > > In his initial post in this thread, Jim suggests that he and others want to > join the Mailman Coders team on Launchpad in

[Mailman-Users] Re: Apache/mailman2 on RHEL8.2

2020-09-09 Thread Jim Tittsler
On 2020-09-09 7:35 a.m., Steven Jones wrote: I get the default page OK but when I follow the link, "List administrators, you can visit the list admin overview page to find the management interface for your list." I get, Not Found Are there virtual domains involved on that server? Is the

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-30 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
uys, what's really going on here? > > I don't know. I can tell you I'm done with Jim. You'll have to ask > him about what he thinks is going on. I'm more than happy to detail it. Stephen and Mark want to move on, and get away from mm2, they want everyone else to follow them to mm3. T

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-29 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
mailman team > doesn't want new members working on old code, and that's the way it sounds, > just say so and give the blessing for a code fork. I'd love to hear RMS's opinion of that. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailma

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-28 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Sat, 2020-08-29 at 03:53 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > > > Again with the "Jim's team". Those other guys, that other group, them > > folks That's nauseating to hear from you Stephen. > > I use the word

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-27 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 10:05 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 8/27/20 3:29 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > There is sooo much to respond to, but in order to stay on focus... > > Brian, you fail to identify the problem, in fact you mischaracterized > > it

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-27 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 09:30 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 8/27/20 3:41 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 17:41 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > The question for you is what benefit there is to anyone in having > > > M

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-27 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
nary line in the sand. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-27 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
ct certainly doesn't want to encourage new > installations of Mailman 2. Again, Do you mean the Mailman3 Project at mailman3.org and on the MM3- org mailinglists? If so, fine, move on. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-u

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-27 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
active > Jim's team turns out to be. Again with the "Jim's team". Those other guys, that other group, them folks That's nauseating to hear from you Stephen. > I think Jim should very much take this to heart, as well as thinking > about the fact that we get several CVEs a

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-27 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
and you want the developers to keep > supporting it. Absolutely not. We see life in MM2 and want the gatekeepers out of the way. > That pressure can/does hinder the work on Mailman 3. That is imaginary or self-contrived pressure. -Jim P. --

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-26 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Wed, 2020-08-26 at 20:25 -0400, Brian Carpenter wrote: > On 8/26/20 7:02 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I'm not sure where you think money comes into this, unless you are > > admitting that moving to mm3 requires expensive consulting contracts. > > I've tur

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-26 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
f the Mailman Team. There is absolutely no reason against, and there are certainly several examples for, having 2 or more active development branches in an open source (or closed source for that matter) project. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing lis

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-08-26 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Wed, 2020-08-26 at 23:52 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > > > A couple of days ago, over on the MAILOP mailinglist, there was a > > long thread titled 'Mailman confirmation email denial of service'. > > *sigh* The pric

[Mailman-Users] mailman v2.x

2020-08-26 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
Hi Folks, A couple of days ago, over on the MAILOP mailinglist, there was a long thread titled 'Mailman confirmation email denial of service'. This detailed some of the problems we've all seen with Mailman subscription spam. The Mailman team has addressed a lot of these problems with ReCAPTCHA

[Mailman-Users] Re: Upgrading from 2.1.12

2020-07-23 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
ate this from the current Centos VM to an > > > Ubuntu > > > > EC2 instance > > > > > > You have choices. Basically, there are Debian/Ubuntu packages for both > > > Mailman 2.1 and Mailman 3, but I don't necessarily recommend them. I > > > pref

Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project (was: Handling Munged From Addresses)

2020-03-03 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 17:18 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 3/2/20 1:55 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > There are plenty of people who are still happy with pipermail and some > > of the other search options (Google, htdig, etc) What benefit does a > > REST

Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project (was: Handling Munged From Addresses)

2020-03-02 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 10:54 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 3/2/20 8:56 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > Barry's roadmap > > for Python2 -> Python3 seems to counter the narrative that MM2 is ill- > > advised to be ported to Python3 (btw, that was pos

Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project (was: Handling Munged From Addresses)

2020-03-02 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 17:17 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users writes: > > > Interestingly enough, here's a roadmap on exactly how to do it: :) > > Jim, you're not helping. Stephen, thank you for taking the time to respond. Although I wo

Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project

2020-02-29 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 10:46 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/29/20 7:02 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > If > > a CSF/CSS is identified in Mailman v2.1.30 in May-2020, what will be > > done to address it? > > I'd say it depend on the details of ho

Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project (was: Handling Munged From Addresses)

2020-02-29 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Thu, 2020-02-27 at 14:51 -0500, Bill Cole wrote: > On 27 Feb 2020, at 14:24, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > Personally, I'd like to see the GNU Mailman project have a formal > > Mailman 2.3 release that supports Python3, I feel that there would be > &

Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project

2020-02-29 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
ve that people will continue installing Mailman 2 for > quite some time (even if it might be more convenient for *us* if > everybody would switch to Mailman 3 ;-). > > Steve Steve, given your comments above, please expand upon this scenario: If a CSF/CSS is identified in Mailman v2.1.30

Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project

2020-02-28 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 10:07 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/28/20 6:17 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 19:52 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > Brian Carpenter writes: > > > > > > > I have hired a profession

Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project

2020-02-28 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
. Nobody has huge amounts of time to put into work on Mailman > right now That frightens me a bit. > AFAIK, but I expect we will be willing to cooperate on any > Mailman features or fixes your developer needs in the REST interface > "in good time". > > I'm going to be

[Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project (was: Handling Munged From Addresses)

2020-02-27 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
omething so popular and established. Personally, I'd like to see the GNU Mailman project have a formal Mailman 2.3 release that supports Python3, I feel that there would be a lot of support for that. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Use

Re: [Mailman-Users] Handling Munged From Addresses

2020-02-27 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Thu, 2020-02-27 at 10:23 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 2/27/20 10:05 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I've been wondering if we should change that to something like this: > > > > From: Jane Doe (jane@domain.tld) via Listname > > > > We sp

Re: [Mailman-Users] Handling Munged From Addresses

2020-02-27 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
that to something like this: From: Jane Doe (jane@domain.tld) via Listname This would be better for mobile email clients which can't/don't easily display reply-to or other headers. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@

Re: [Mailman-Users] Apache subscription Referer rules

2020-01-14 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Tue, 2020-01-14 at 00:19 -0500, Bill Cole wrote: > On 10 Jan 2020, at 10:52, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > (I think I asked this a few months back, but I couldn't locate any > > emails on it) > > > > What is the Apache rule syntax for

[Mailman-Users] Apache subscription Referer rules

2020-01-10 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
(I think I asked this a few months back, but I couldn't locate any emails on it) What is the Apache rule syntax for rejecting subscription linking that doesn't come from the same domain/site? tia, -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] msg marked as spam 554 5.7.1 [P4]

2020-01-06 Thread Jim Dory
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 7:21 PM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > > I'd need to see that > message's full header to debug that fully, but it sounds like GCI is > generally not doing a great job here. > > > Ok - just for curiosity sake, here is full header. I've

Re: [Mailman-Users] msg marked as spam 554 5.7.1 [P4]

2020-01-05 Thread Jim Dory
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:56 AM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Jim Dory writes: > > > > Sometimes I do get this: host mx1.arandomserver.com [198.252.100.64] > > SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: > >

[Mailman-Users] msg marked as spam 554 5.7.1 [P4]

2020-01-03 Thread Jim Dory
.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message The link in the messages is https://www.codepublishing.com/AK/Nome/ . I can post more of the header if need be. Could it be that GCI needs to whitelist or something?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 11:06 -0500, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 16:59 +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > > Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users > > : > > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 16:59 +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > > Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 16:47 Uhr schrieb Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users > : > > On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 10:17 -0500, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > > Is there a timeline for that? Mailman 2.x requires python

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 Ready?

2019-11-25 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
ython2. HOWEVER, Redhat, Debian, etc., *will* still be maintaining Python2 throughout the lifecycles of their releases that contain Python2. So, for Debian 10 (Buster) that is well past 2022 (which is the LTS end-data for Debian 9). Stop being scared by the Python team's misleading messaging.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Do sender filters apply to subscription requests?

2019-09-18 Thread Jim Ziobro
On 9/17/2019 1:37 PM, Kevin Bowen wrote: Hello, One of my instance's lists is apparently getting spammed with subscription requests from addresses outside my org. In sender filters, for reject_these_nonmembers I put ^(?!.*(example)\.com$) [actual domain redacted], but the requests still get

[Mailman-Users] Messages delivered out of order and delayed

2019-09-13 Thread Jim Ziobro
Indeed email is not a synchronous messaging channel.  But most email clients will sort incoming messages by header Date thus undo the effects of out-of-order delivery.  Even if you send out two messages in a row to j...@gmail.com there is no guarantee that both messages go to the same

Re: [Mailman-Users] Need assistance configuring Mailman version 2.1.15 on RHEL7

2019-07-19 Thread Jim Ziobro
updates to mm-handler are on: http://sw.ziobro.info/mm-handler/ Ciao, //Z\\ Jim Ziobro -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Re: [Mailman-Users] English (USA)

2019-07-09 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
ed in Debian/Ubuntu releases for at least the next 5 years. - -Jim P. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE3RmV4WutJ2KyCS2zPcxbabkKGJ8FAl0klKgACgkQPcxbabkK GJ8mTxAAnR5TkcCIKNFP1zc5LGimgZYx9vOo25X7cheu72pwCSfCdEioSNrxb+Zs sWF8bRbjFLioOEZ7GipmSP4Ez7gl1jqyjJ39KcqIJNyTKcnPaUzsNx4cNcoF

Re: [Mailman-Users] English (USA)

2019-07-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 14:17 -0700, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > On 7/8/2019 1:51 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I just keep getting reminded that we specifically support USA English > > and we offer no other English l

Re: [Mailman-Users] English (USA)

2019-07-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 13:32 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 7/8/19 1:00 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > > Just to be clear, I'm not proposing changes to any po strings, rather > > just the labels. The end

Re: [Mailman-Users] English (USA)

2019-07-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 12:46 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 7/8/19 12:15 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > > > > Now I'm confused. :-) I know about the differences in UK and US English > > are in general (colo

Re: [Mailman-Users] English (USA)

2019-07-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 21:06 +0200, Christian F Buser wrote: > Hi Jim > > I do not know about where the English (US) and English (UK) languages differ > in Mailman. But in school, half a century ago, I learnt (learned) about the &

[Mailman-Users] English (USA)

2019-07-08 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
a patch to convert it to just "English" be welcomed? - -Jim P. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE3RmV4WutJ2KyCS2zPcxbabkKGJ8FAl0jfwAACgkQPcxbabkK GJ/flhAAgwOWRK83sSLjOrU1T5myc9RDCVrbCeFTZaR++AuvYlQUun1QKysaue4L uEUiOU5gqSkLmamXfDvXExQfX1yuwWvz0Ea1OB94GofRtar5UsUuAV

Re: [Mailman-Users] What to do about SPF rejection?

2019-06-17 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
d into v2.1.29, specifically to address for such idiotic policies. https://code.launchpad.net/~jimpop/mailman/dmarc-moderation-addresses/+merge/359963 -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-06-06 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
but that claims it's already installed, yet the error occurs. what i > found you want to install is the package "python-dev". > python-dev should only be necessary if you are building Mailman from source. If you are installing from PPA/apt/rpm/dpkg/etc you should only need python-d

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-06-06 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
-properties-common" which may need to be installed on your system. hth. - -Jim P. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEECPbAhaBWEfiXj/kxdRlcPb헹ᐔॳ耀⠤䇔数 fkWqsw//RNCXQJ0BX/3SaNuNtdcၔ掽뀘媹였耬탦�ꂏ僁⍈� owdiovTqyAe7lnmHYSCIIr01h7BGh1Y2N4cQztzYZORꄮ萊㲘Ⱶ╹ dcpJv2nYTRiPYdsRgxEMYrsoBR1MjykNOOMI6Ts5Pl8rhJI7KbMq

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrading mm 2.1.26 on Ubuntu 18.04 to 2.1.29

2019-06-06 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
'list' > is the owner of Mailman's data/aliases.db file. You can change this by > `chown daemon data/aliases.db` but you need to ensure that that file is > still group 'list' and group writable for Mailman to be able to update > it as lists

Re: [Mailman-Users] Restrict archives to Administrator

2019-04-18 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
> receiving (and can locally archive) the posts. > > > It's a hack of Jim Popovitch's code which restricts archive access to > > unmoderated subscribers. > > Ditto. > > The only scenario where either of these restrictions makes sense to me > (given my own expe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Now that Python 2 is dead in 2020 what are people's plans with mailman2?

2019-04-10 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
tly every time I looked it seemed like all the focus was everything but the email reflector bits. -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.o

[Mailman-Users] FetchMail feed into Mailman

2019-03-26 Thread Jim Ziobro
FetchMail injects messages into the local mail system via SMTP.   I see it also supports LMTP.  So I guess you would not need a local mail system with Mailman3.  But why not setup standard Mailman under your favorite mail system and let FetchMail do what it does best?  It is a widely supported

Re: [Mailman-Users] Delivery errors and spam grading

2019-03-19 Thread Jim Dory
igest so it didn't ping his phone for every message rolling in. (Some of us know how to filter that, but most users may not). So I probably will not disable it. /jim -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Delivery errors and spam grading

2019-03-18 Thread Jim Dory
On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:39 AM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > > (You probably should > also disable the Digestable option in [Digest options] > I'm also receiving several bounces back for errors such as: "SMTP error from remote mail server after end of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderating if keywords mentioned?

2019-02-22 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
at in his email), or use something like SpamAssassin and specify the SpamAssassin header like so: X-Spam-Status:.*LIKELY_SPAM_BODY Or as Mark also stated, you can write a custom SpamAssassin rule to add headers for your own body matches

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderating if keywords mentioned?

2019-02-22 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
t; Spam Filters. Set a regex for whatever you want to catch, set the action to Hold. Ex: Subject: .*[Oo]ut.*[Oo]ffice.* hth, -Jim P. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-us

[Mailman-Users] Anti Spam to stop list attacks

2019-01-20 Thread Jim Ziobro
g sent to those addresses are junk.  I learned a lot by using that trick. Ciao, //Z\\ Jim Ziobro On 1/19/2019 4:58 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote: One of my forums has suddenly been inundated with posts to the list by non-subscribers, most of which seem to be coming from some homosexual list som

[Mailman-Users] mm-handler same as postfix-to-mailman.py

2019-01-04 Thread Jim Ziobro
I have some ideas for Mailman2.  I'll follow up. Ciao, //Z\\ Jim Ziobro -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http:/

[Mailman-Users] Translation (Localization) of mail addresses?

2018-12-05 Thread Jim Ziobro
Are there any plans to support changing of mail interface addresses for other languages? In MTA/Utils.py I find:  ('admin', 'bounces', 'confirm', 'join', 'leave', 'owner', 'request', 'subscribe', 'unsubscribe'):  Should the Italian mail extensions be something like:     gestire rimbalzi

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