Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

+1. Shoulda read the next post before I replied... OK Don via Mercedes October 19, 2017 at 1:02 PM It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours, sproated if you

Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction

Not all bread is created equal. Certainly grocery store white bread (Air and fat) and real bread made with whole grains soaked, cooked or sprouted. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes October 19, 2017 at 12:30 PM Bread is a waistline killer.

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I’ll look and see. The stuff is called “Dave’s” --R Sent from iPhone > On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > 21 grains? I bet you can't name half of them. > > Gotta be careful. It could contain wheat, rye, oats = 99% > 18 others = 1 % > >> On Thu,

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Surely he dispatched the bird first, plucking a live one would be a serious challenge. ;) Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:49 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Our son made and baked his bread while serving in the Peace Corps in Malawi

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Any natural oil or fat is fine so long as you stay within the necessary caloric intake limit. Avoid hydrogenated fats like poison, since in many cases they are. Trans fats are the leading cause of coronary artery disease as far as I can tell. ___

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Tin Man sez: >‎Oil is good, as in... High Fat Low Carb Olive oil, yes.  Butter, YES! Beef tallow, yes Lard, yes.  Vegetable oil, not so much. Please. Watch this Dr.'s videos.  I'm just regurgitating what she is saying.  ‎https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC61A-gdOvrzm4xGsZPMMuOA Rick

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Our son made and baked his bread while serving in the Peace Corps in Malawi - no running water, no electricity - just a well and a charcoal "cooker" thing. Basically a Dutch oven arraingement. He didn't see why he should suffer culinarily - he baked cookies every weekend, learned to pluck and

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Well, if you are THAT lazy, and can[t plan ahead by a day, read the ingrediants - no white flour, 100% whole grains. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to > buy? >

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Either - we do both. The sourdought starter is from the yeast occurring in the iar in our house - who knows what it is? My wifw is now on her second 50 lb. bag of yeast in the last 25 years or so - we keep it in the freezer, pull out a pound or so when needed. It's MUCH less expensive this way.

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OK Don wrote: > Load it up with whole grain flours, > sproated if you wish, little to no oil... Leavening or natural sourdough? Oil is good, as in... High Fat Low Carb. tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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‎The highest I have gone is less than 50 but most days have been around 25-30. That's good!  I went to the cardiologist today and they found nothing from the monitor. I am going back in a couple of weeks for a stress test. More good news!  The wife thinks I am being overboard on the carb

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The highest I have gone is less than 50 but most days have been around 25-30. I went to the cardiologist today and they found nothing from the monitor. I am going back in a couple of weeks for a stress test. The wife thinks I am being overboard on the carb cutting and the cardiologist agreed.

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We have that in some of our local stores, its in the frozen foods aisle. Doesn't taste like much, but it is "bread'... Personally, that's too radical a change for our household, we'd never stick with that, so I find something with no HFCS and does have multi-grains and no sugar added, and then

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‎https://www.foodforlife.com/product/breads/ezekiel-49-flax-sprouted-whole-grain-bread Rick   Original Message   From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy? ‎ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

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Max sez: >‎Find a multi-grain that doesn't have any >high-fructose corn syrup (1st >filter) and then the lowest added sugar / >sugar carbs that you can find. Here ya go.  This is the lowest carb bread I can find. 

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Kaleb sez: >‎If my target is less than 103 per day, then >I should still have plenty of >room in the >carb budget left, correct. Yeah. But if you drop that to 25-40, you'll see a big difference. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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For anybody that thinks its "too hard" I've made it by hand baked in a Coleman oven.I regularly bake bread at camp with no running water. Cleanup is a PITA but the baking isn't hard. One year it was the only bread my dad would eat... -Curt On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 3:23:31 PM EDT,

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On 19/10/2017 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and flour get to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking... -Curt Quite right. My wife routinely makes a nice French

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Bread needs 4 things:FlourWater YeastSalt Anything else is filler and is the problem. Ideally let the yeast and flour get to know each other for 18-24 hours before baking... -Curt On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 3:15:03 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

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I am assuming that if I am shooting for a certain carb number to stay under, even if I eat a sandwich with white bread as long as it comes in under that target I should be fine. So if a piece of bread is day 13 net carbs and I eat a sandwich, depending on what else is on the sandwich we are

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Kaleb, Find a multi-grain that doesn't have any high-fructose corn syrup (1st filter) and then the lowest added sugar / sugar carbs that you can find. Nature Made is a brand around here that is OK and still very inexpensive. Rye breads can also be OK. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Oct

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"For those that are too lazy to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy?" Get a bread maker, make bread in big batches, slice and freeze. Very little actual labor involved and you get better bread for small money. -Curt On Thursday, October 19, 2017, 2:18:53 PM EDT, Kaleb C.

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21 grains? I bet you can't name half of them. Gotta be careful. It could contain wheat, rye, oats = 99% 18 others = 1 % On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Probably most any whole grain/multi-grain. THe more grains the better. >

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Probably most any whole grain/multi-grain.  THe more grains the better.  There's this 21 grain thing I get at Costco, I see it now (for more) at the grocery store.  I'll get the name of it, has a green wrapper.  It is really good, esp toasted. You might look at a bread machine, it takes about

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Trader Joe's Ciabatta and Pugliese white bread are insanely delicious with whipped butter. Lock me away from it. Forget about commercial packaged breads although German Rudischlager black (mostly rye - no wheat) breads are pretty decent, if not particularly tasty. Just aggressively wholesome.

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For those that are not able to make bread what is an acceptable bread to buy? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2017, at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy > good bread, you have to make

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It depends on the bread - they are NOT all created equal. No, you can't buy good bread, you have to make it. Load it up with whole grain flours, sproated if you wish, little to no oil, ad oat meat, flax seed meal, etc. and you will have a filling, high fiber bread with fewer and slowly absorbing

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Bread is a waistline killer. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dan, > I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread > (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also > helps to add

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Dan, I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all about cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt).

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U will get really tight --FT On 10/18/17 6:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Surely on this plan I will loose weight. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

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So you're a carboterian, Roger? My wife is a practicing member, too. Can't pass a loaf of bread without taking a bite -D > On Oct 18, 2017, at 10:23 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well, I guess at this point the only question that remains is, "which >

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Some of them have dual carbs Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2017, at 9:23 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well, I guess at this point the only question that remains is, "which > Mercedes model/year contains the most carbs and which the fewest?" I always >

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Well, I guess at this point the only question that remains is, "which Mercedes model/year contains the most carbs and which the fewest?" I always thought the SLs looked a little fruity while the Unimogs and full size sedans must contain high amounts of sugars and carbs. Knowing the facts about

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Yes, that's my understanding, total carbs count, but sugar carbs are worse, and HFCS moves the needle all the way to evil. Need balance to make sure you still get fibre. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 18, 2017 6:55:12 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"

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Im tracking net carbs. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2017, at 5:58 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb sez: > >> ‎I am thinking that all carbs are not equal. >So maybe if you have more >> carbs of >something that does not contain as >much sugar might be

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Kaleb sez: >‎I am thinking that all carbs are not equal. >So maybe if you have more carbs >of >something that does not contain as >much sugar might be somewhat ok? Look at net carbs. Total carbs minus fiber. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

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I am thinking that all carbs are not equal. So maybe if you have more carbs of something that does not contain as much sugar might be somewhat ok? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2017, at 5:51 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes, that's a little high. > >

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Raisins are way too high in carbs also. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Got some fresh dates at Costco this afternoon. Yikes! They're really high in > carbs! > > Lots of yummy grapes. Already tore into them. Forgot

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Full fat yogurt would be best I believe. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I just try to base it on plate real estate. I use half of what I was > previously. I may still be eating too much at this point, but I’m

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Yes, that's a little high. Ate something the other day, don't recall what, but about twenty carbs total, three of which were sugar, and I thought of Kaleb trying to cut back on carbs but still needing the fibre... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 18, 2017 6:42:13 PM

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Last night when I ate dinner I was not really that hungry. If you cut your portions way down it seems you adjust to the lower amount of food and will be hungry and first but after you get used it, you are not hungry anymore. Cutting carbs also leads to you not being hungry all the time also, or

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I am basically just focused on cutting sweats and high carb starch food. I would love to have some potatoes but so far not eating them. Just doing that will cut the carbs way down. No bread items either. Today I had a taco salad with no beans and did not eat the shell and had 2 eggs and bacon

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Sugars, from the looks of things. 16 grams each. -D > On Oct 18, 2017, at 6:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > What type of carbs, sugars or fibre? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > > On October 18, 2017 5:51:03 PM EDT, Dan--- via

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I have a dead sams membership. Should I get a Costco membership? We finally got one in Tulsa. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dates, Had some this morning. Costco is your friend, and not just for tars. > >

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How about dried cranberries? We get them here either sweetened or unsweetened. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 18, 2017 5:51 PM, "Dan--- via Mercedes" wrote: > Got some fresh dates at Costco this afternoon. Yikes! They're really high > in carbs! > > Lots of yummy

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What type of carbs, sugars or fibre? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 18, 2017 5:51:03 PM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >Got some fresh dates at Costco this afternoon. Yikes! They're really >high in carbs! > >Lots of yummy grapes. Already

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Got some fresh dates at Costco this afternoon. Yikes! They're really high in carbs! Lots of yummy grapes. Already tore into them. Forgot to look for raisins, I was so pumped about the dates. -D > On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > >

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I just try to base it on plate real estate. I use half of what I was previously. I may still be eating too much at this point, but I’m eating less, so that’s a start. I have trained myself to skip meals or change my eating habits in the past without a lot of difficulty, so I’m sure I’ll be

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SWMBette and I both can't taste bitter like SWMBO, so I love the sour taste. I eat one grapefruit per day. Sprinkling sugar? This is the healthy eating channel now, we've got to fix our Karma after the chowda-Q!! - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Curt Raymond

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Portion control is super hard as is keeping yourself from grazing, I just ate a granola bar I really didn't need... I'm finding that running is tightening my core muscles and helping me get full sooner. The only issue I have left there is mental, it bugs me to not clean the plate. I forget

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That’s nothing to fret about Kaleb. You’re in an environment where it’s really difficult to manage what you eat when you’re out and about and your choices are limited. Curt - Totally understood. I’m just starting so I don’t expect the substantial changes to last much longer - I’m sure things

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Alton Brown says you should sprinkle grapefruit with sugar and bake it to convert the sour taste into something better. It sure looked good on the show, I've never tried it... -Curt On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 2:48:53 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

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In another couple of months we’ll have all the strawberries you could want, and cheep, too. This is about 20 minutes from my house: "Over three-quarters of the nation's midwinter strawberries come from Plant City, which is also the home of the Florida Strawberry Festival.” I never understood

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I”m not a big fan. To me they taste kind of bitter. Maybe it’s the ones I bought, who knows? -D > On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > For dried fruit I really like apricots. > > -Curt > > ___

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Cherries are very nice, strawberries are great brain food but hard to find ripe/sweet out of season. At the other end, grapefruit will cut your appetite. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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For dried fruit I really like apricots. -Curt On Wednesday, October 18, 2017, 2:26:13 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Prunes are much the same. I’m trying to find some different fruits to get my sweet tooth fix.  I like figs and raisins.  If anyone has

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I like dates, too. I have had luck with grapes at Costco. It’s so difficult to find ones that are ripe. I don’t understand why people eat the ones with the green stems, as they taste awful. If the stems aren’t brown, they’re not typically ripe. I’ve got a really good farmer’s market in

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Dates,  Had some this morning.  Costco is your friend, and not just for tars. --R On 10/18/17 2:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Prunes are much the same. I’m trying to find some different fruits to get my sweet tooth fix. I like figs and raisins. If anyone has other suggestions,

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Prunes are much the same. I’m trying to find some different fruits to get my sweet tooth fix. I like figs and raisins. If anyone has other suggestions, I’m all ears. -D > On Oct 18, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Good figs are great, moderate figs are