Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Jim Cathey
Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that!

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Curt Raymond
From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID:     CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread dseretakis
From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Canfield
Bad battery or severely corroded battery terminals? Mike On Jul 1, 2013 12:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread dseretakis
So if battery was bad then why wouldn't it even crank with battery charger set 225A start mode. Why did it initially crank with battery charger and now not? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Bad battery or severely corroded battery

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Curt Raymond
Color me amazed. Now he tells people around the office what a wizard I am. -Curt The man, the myth, the office legend Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 13:03:27 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Ground strap engine to body (on the 79 300TD is down above the transmission at back of block)? --R On 7/1/13 12:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread WILTON
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Sure sounds like it to me, maybe an internal short? Last winter my 240D made a weird sound when I tried to start it in the airport parking garage, on the second attempt it started

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Craig
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread dseretakis
., from the assembled gallery as I lowered the hood and jumped back in my Caravan. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Sure sounds like

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Curt Raymond
it free'd up clean it with carb cleaner and use some real cable lube which doesn't attract dirt. -Curt  Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:22:01 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID:     CAC35L

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R On 7/1/13 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Canfield
, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Sure sounds like it to me, maybe an internal short? Last winter my 240D made a weird sound when I tried to start it in the airport parking garage, on the second attempt it started. Then a couple weeks later at work it was a no-go. I jumped out

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Well, at least I don't use Armor All on my vinyl surfaces... On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R On 7/1/13 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Try it on your seats --R On 7/1/13 6:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Well, at least I don't use Armor All on my vinyl surfaces... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Fmiser
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Fmiser
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-01 Thread Fmiser
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Can the turn signal stalk on a 78 240D be repaired-as in, is it eligible to have the detents filed? I'm a bit confused... What detents? And why do you want to file them? What should this repair? I am pretty sure my 1978 W123 turn signal assembly is exactly the

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Canfield
Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish oil

Re: [MBZ] 240D won't burp

2013-06-14 Thread Jim Cathey
I get the air out by cracking open the top hose at the radiator and pouring water in until it's running out over my hand, then I push the hose on. That seems to do it. Try parking with the nose significantly up. Ramps? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 240D won't burp

2013-06-14 Thread WILTON
Pouring coolant into top hose a la Jim works nicely for me, too, but my cars are '87 124 and '91 126. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D

Re: [MBZ] 240D won't burp

2013-06-14 Thread Curt Raymond
Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D won't burp Message-ID: 7a807dca-d50a-11e2-a381-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I get the air out by cracking open the top hose

Re: [MBZ] 240D oil leak

2013-05-30 Thread Dieselhead
Tensioner is not something you take apart as it is under spring pressure. you replace the unit. I have only seen leaks at the oring seal to the head. I can't remember the 616 style, but I think it is the same as older types that is held in with two bolts, one also being half on the exh

Re: [MBZ] 240D oil leak

2013-05-30 Thread Curt Raymond
...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D oil leak Message-ID: a06240805cdcd0f5fd83e@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Tensioner is not something you take apart as it is under spring pressure. you replace the unit. I

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Darren Marshall
Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process of getting on this mailing list? I cannot seem to post questions as my account is still being reviewed (I signed up a week ago) ... any help or insight would be appreciated! Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On May 2,

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread WILTON
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process of getting on this mailing list? I cannot seem to post questions as my account is still being reviewed (I signed up a week ago) ... any help or insight would be appreciated

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Darren Marshall
: [MBZ] 240D Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process of getting on this mailing list? I cannot seem to post questions as my account is still being reviewed (I signed up a week ago) ... any help or insight would be appreciated! Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Max
Your application is rejected. Re-apply in 90 days for final disapproval. ;) Welcome Darren! Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process of getting on this mailing list? I cannot seem to post questions as my account is still being

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Michael Canfield
Is this banned lite? Mike On May 4, 2013 1:26 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Your application is rejected. Re-apply in 90 days for final disapproval. ;) Welcome Darren! Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process of

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread WILTON
Max is trying to be a clown today, Darren; welcome aboard. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Your application is rejected. Re-apply

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Darren Marshall
Ha! Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On May 4, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Your application is rejected. Re-apply in 90 days for final disapproval. ;) Welcome Darren! Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: Wilton, would you

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Max
: Saturday, May 04, 2013 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Your application is rejected. Re-apply in 90 days for final disapproval. ;) Welcome Darren! Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process of getting on this mailing list? I

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread WILTON
If we didn't love ya, Max, I wouldn't say a word. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Usually, much to my family's horror, not much trying

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Benz Hogs
BZT, partially wrong. None are *required* to start or run a 240D, they are required if you wish to have turn signals, wipers, or lights. My first Benz, '83 300SD, had the regulator go bad around dusk during a trip from AR to KS. We spent the night at a motel, called the Kansas City

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 May 2013 13:22:04 -0500 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: BZT, partially wrong. None are *required* to start or run a 240D, they are required if you wish to have turn signals, wipers, or lights. Actually no, not wrong. If you want to CONTINUE to be able to start

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Benz Hogs
Which is why I said partially wrong :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 5/3/2013 1:50 PM, Craig wrote: Actually no, not wrong ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On May 3, 2013 11:50 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: You are correct, though, that once a 240D is started it will continue to run without electricity. I don't know if that is true for more modern diesels Probably a simple inverse function. The more modern they get, the worse they

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I like it best in Dimitri Blue/blue. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Saw a beautiful, spotless 240D in a parking lot a little while ago. Design may be nearly 40 years old, but it still looks mighty good, even in beige/tan! Wilton

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread WILTON
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D I like it best in Dimitri Blue/blue. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Saw a beautiful, spotless 240D in a parking lot a little while ago. Design may be nearly 40 years old

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Message-ID: CAC35L=t9zpfubekpx1ela2wyog91kvcvty1iuuztc3-mali...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I like it best in Dimitri Blue/blue. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread WILTON
Yep, I've pined for my 3-pedal one several times; sorta wish I'da bought it back and fixed it myself. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Me too, I

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Me too, I had a china blue wagon for awhile with the blue interior... In wondering if my 240D is kaput I did some searching for a new one, if I found a 3 pedal 240D in that color combo

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread WILTON
'em in a nice, dry warehouse somewhere - not TOO dry - a Goldilocks warehouse. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D I am pretty sure

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Message-ID: AC3635B473A448E8B7574AD53FBF59BE@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original 'Haven't pined quite THAT much. I'll try to continue to get along with my '91 350SDL and '87 300D. I've even pine sometimes for my '31

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread WILTON
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Message-ID: AC3635B473A448E8B7574AD53FBF59BE@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original 'Haven't pined quite THAT much. I'll try to continue to get along with my '91 350SDL and '87 300D. I've even pine sometimes

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Message-ID: CDC81A71847F4E8CA85E88A755A7E6A6@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Me, too, but my condition would make it REALLY hard for me to drive a stndrd tranny now (Model

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-09 Thread Rich Thomas
ruhroh... --R On 4/8/13 8:05 PM, WILTON wrote: Mr. and Mrs. Banker were amazed by my magic stick. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key is turned to start position. Get all the correct dash lights, have power in the wire going from ignition switch to solenoid when key is in start position. All voltage readings are correct on everything. Everything is tight

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Max Dillon
Wiring diagram, digital multi-meter, basic understanding of direct current electrical theory, and time with the patient... -OR- A friend with identical year/model car you can compare to your car, but that isn't a sure thing if the problem is deeper than crossed wires. -- Max Dillon Charleston

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Dan Penoff
If you have B+ at the solenoid wire then it should work when you reconnect the wire to the solenoid - unless the solenoid has a problem. Dan On Apr 8, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key is turned

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread WILTON
@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key is turned to start position. Get all the correct dash lights, have power in the wire going from ignition switch to solenoid when

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
The solenoid/ starter is new Bosch. Well, 3 months old. And yes Wilton, I have mechanically agitated it. Getting a little frustrating. Bob R On Apr 8, 2013 12:46 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: If you have B+ at the solenoid wire then it should work when you reconnect the wire to the

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Curt Raymond
but not power THROUGH the solenoid its the solenoid... -Curt Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:19:17 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. Message-ID: CAKOy=fx5gyzuhsepxnnf8zyvggzprgonwxyfadhk74z1ttg

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:19:17 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key is turned to start position. Get all the correct dash lights, have power in the wire going from ignition switch to solenoid when key is in start

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Randy Bennell
That was my immediate thought as well. If there is power to the solenoid, it should try to kick in unless the solenoid is bad. Unfortunately, with diesels of this vintage (at least on mine) you can't just turn the key on and off a few times to see if it catches. When the solenoid contacts

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small lug on the solenoid and I can hear clicking at the glow plug relay but nothing happens. Bad solenoid? On Apr 8, 2013 12:56 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:19:17 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Dieselhead
). Wilton - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. Okay...glow light comes on again. So now it's one issuenothing when key is turned

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Fmiser
Bob Rentfro wrote: nothing when key is turned to start position. Get all the correct dash lights, have power in the wire going from ignition switch to solenoid when key is in start position. All voltage readings are correct on everything. Everything is tight and clean. I'm at a

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/04/2013 3:02 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small lug on the solenoid and I can hear clicking at the glow plug relay but nothing happens. Bad solenoid? On Apr 8, 2013 12:56 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Let me suggest that you get one

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
The solenoid came installed on the new Bosch starter I bought three months ago. So what holds that's so annoying on? Is it allen head? On Apr 8, 2013 1:14 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 08/04/2013 3:02 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
Sothis is the first time I've tried to remove a solenoid. It appears that the electrical part comes off and the mechanical part stays on the starter is that correct? Bob R On Apr 8, 2013 1:26 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The solenoid came installed on the new Bosch starter I

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:02:54 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: What happens when you short the top large terminal on the starter (with the large wire that goes to the battery) to the small, middle terminal on the starter? Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
I get it now. Thanks for all the advice, men. Gotta get the pug on the road. Gotta find a solenoid On Apr 8, 2013 1:39 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:02:54 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: What happens when you short the top large terminal on the

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:38:49 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Sothis is the first time I've tried to remove a solenoid. It appears that the electrical part comes off and the mechanical part stays on the starter is that correct? You will first need to remove the starter from the

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:26:38 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The solenoid came installed on the new Bosch starter I bought three months ago. So what holds that's so annoying on? Is it allen head? You bought it new three months ago? What kind of warranty does it have? Can you not

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
I'm working on the warranty thing right now. Oddly enough, I got this starter from Gary. I'm going to get a big dose of his customer service right now. And, as a point of data for everyone, no one sells starter solenoids by them self anymore. Bob R On Apr 8, 2013 2:14 PM, Craig

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread WILTON
I guess you turned in the old starter when you got the new one? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. I'm working

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. I'm working on the warranty thing right now. Oddly enough, I got this starter from Gary. I'm going to get a big dose of his customer service right now. And, as a point of data for everyone, no one sells starter

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Dan Penoff
If you can find a solenoid it will cost almost as much as a complete starter. That's just the way the market is. This solenoid works by pulling in the armature to engage the bendix drive on the starter. When the armature pulls in, a large copper disc on the armature shorts the two large

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
I have removed the starter, but the solenoid back on, packed up and I'm heading over to UPS. Gary provided stellar customer serviceso far. Bob R On Apr 8, 2013 3:27 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: If you can find a solenoid it will cost almost as much as a complete starter. That's

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Dan Penoff
Funny story about starter abuse: Co-worker had a PT Cruiser that had intermittent starting problems, as in it would not crank at random times. Knowing I had a little automotive experience (his words) he asked me if I had any idea as to the problem. Check all of your battery terminals, chassis

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Mountain Man
Bob R wrote: I have removed the starter, but the solenoid back on, packed up and I'm heading over to UPS. Gary provided stellar customer serviceso far. Yes. Our problem was in December. We used hammer on starter for about 10 days and then the problem disappeared. Gary found us a German

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Sorry, I'm late to all this, but I see your post where you mention the problem is the relay... I didn't catch up on all the rest of them yet. But, Being a 1980, this probably has the earlier style relay. You can open these up and clean the contacts. If you hear it clicking, then the solenoid

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread WILTON
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. Funny story about starter abuse: Co-worker had a PT Cruiser that had intermittent starting problems, as in it would not crank at random times. Knowing I had a little automotive

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Dieselhead
An auto electric shop that repairs/rebuilds starters can get them. If you find a source, you want a Bosch. I'm working on the warranty thing right now. Oddly enough, I got this starter from Gary. I'm going to get a big dose of his customer service right now. And, as a point of data for

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Dieselhead
Here is the deal: turn the key to position 2 no glow light. Turn the key to start position, nothing.but I can hear one kinda loud click coming from the fuse bus area. The ignition switch (mechanical and electrical portions) has been replaced. New starter, new cables, line from ignition switch

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Fmiser
Bob Rentfro wrote: Here is the deal: turn the key to position 2 no glow light. Turn the key to start position, nothing.but I can hear one kinda loud click coming from the fuse bus area. The ignition switch (mechanical and electrical portions) has been replaced. New starter, new cables,

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
The previous owner had this car all jacked up. The ignition switch was a disaster so I replaced it. This is a separate problem from the initial problem. I think I have it narrowed down to the glowplug relay now. Its clicking when I turn the key to position three. Bob R On Apr 7, 2013 2:05 PM,

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Did you REPLACE THE FUSE? Those things get wonky easily. --R On 4/7/13 5:07 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: The previous owner had this car all jacked up. The ignition switch was a disaster so I replaced it. This is a separate problem from the initial problem. I think I have it narrowed down to the

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
You mean the big 80 amp one? It looks good I took it off and cleaned around it and put it back in. I think Herr Doktor would be okay with that. Bob R On Apr 7, 2013 2:11 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you REPLACE THE FUSE? Those things get wonky easily. --R

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Max Dillon
Bingo, sounds like your wiring is messed up, AND you've got other issues now complicating the scene. You probably need to start with a wiring diagram, and validate each and every wire connected to the ignition switch and the glow plug relay and the starter. The AC wiring on my '87 wagon had

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-07 Thread Max Dillon
Should click (energize) at position 2, position 3 is the last spring loaded position which energizes the starter? I'm assuming position zero is off, and 1 is the accessory position... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: The

Re: [MBZ] 240D power up

2013-03-12 Thread WILTON
And do some more roller painting? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: [MBZ] 240D power up Hopped in my '78 240D the other day and found that when the key was on

Re: [MBZ] 240D power up

2013-03-12 Thread dseretakis
Ah bodywork. My favorite:) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hopped in my '78 240D the other day and found that when the key was on the aux fan was always on. Odd, its never done that before. So yesterday I took a look and found that

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-18 Thread WILTON
: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? This interests me. Can you send pics? Maybe I should just weld up my own. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2012, at 3:52 PM

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-18 Thread WILTON
Posted Nov 5 when y'all were talking about hitches. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? In 201 when I, bought friend's '81

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-18 Thread Max Dillon
mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon? In 201 when I, bought friend's '81 300D, I stopped by Auto Zone one day to see what sort of trailer hitches they might have - not that they might have one made for an '81 300D, but that I

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread Craig
On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 22:13:37 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:08:48 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: What program did you use to draw that? QCad, a 2-D mechanical drafting program. I wondered if I recognized the type

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.123dapp.com/design#designDownloadDetails --R On 11/9/12 10:21 AM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 22:13:37 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:08:48 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: What program did you use to draw that? QCad,

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-09 Thread Craig
On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 10:30:03 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://www.123dapp.com/design#designDownloadDetails Now I'll have to get virtualbox running so I can run the Windows application Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread John Reames
I still have mine somewhere... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 7, 2012, at 22:38, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Suddenly there were people on eBay who were convinced a 1960s-1970s Benjamin pump up pellet pistol was

Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars

2012-11-08 Thread Jon Agne
@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D on Chasing Classic Cars Chip is like BFF with Wayne. Bob R On Nov 7, 2012 11:53 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody else watch the show Chasing Classic Cars on Velocity Channel

Re: [MBZ] 240D or a toasty AMG

2012-11-08 Thread Rich Thomas
That'll buff right out --R On 11/8/12 1:32 AM, Hendrik Fay wrote: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-C63-AMG-2009-WRECKING-CAR-FOR-PARTS-/140791687171?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessorieshash=item20c7d6a803 Makes that /8 look cheap, however the engine just needs a clean up

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-08 Thread Craig
On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:47:51 -0500 MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: I couldn't figure out how to pass the blinker signal through to the trailer and at the same time send the brake signal through to the other light without using a relay for each brake light signal and one for each blinker

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