On Friday 29 Oct 2004 00:52, Erylon Hines wrote:
Ann, I didn't see Kaj say that he actually booted up to the log-in screen
and chose to go to Gnome or KDE directly from the drop-down list (I could
have missed it). I think that he may have logged out of kde and logged
back into the Xfce
On Friday 29 Oct 2004 08:53, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Erylon, you are absolutely right. I did exactly that. But now, I
just made a comlete shutdown/restart, logged directly into gnome
and connected the camera. As in KDE it immidiately started to fill
up my screen with an infinete amount of
On Friday 29 October 2004 10:34, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 29 Oct 2004 08:53, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Erylon, you are absolutely right. I did exactly that. But now,
I just made a comlete shutdown/restart, logged directly into
gnome and connected the camera. As in KDE it immidiately
On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing around
in /boot and lilo !
Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident errors.
But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel. So no go
here. Next, I'll
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 22:50, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
Methinks there's something ugly going on between hotplug and udev on
your system...so you might consider disabling both and using devfs as a
service at boot instead.
I'm still using 2.6.1-10 (with udev) and thus can't stat your bugit's
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 08:42, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
Are you running devfs or udev?
It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will then be
disabled.
Mine is udev
Anne
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On Thursday 28 October 2004 09:42, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing
around in /boot and lilo !
Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident
errors. But the camera still
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
I haven't got around to changing to udev yet, so it may not be a factor at
all. I have 2.6.1-12 with supermount, and I'm still seeing the problem.
When kaj ran tail -f /var/log/messages whilst plugging in the camera there
were some strange
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 09:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good folks at
Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : if it ain't broke, don't
fix it. In my experience, every new release fixes some bugs,
introduces new features , but nevertheless
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, mount
the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then reboot to
cool down the CPU. Circumstantial, I think.
doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 10:09, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
From what I've seen until now, I'd eliminate supermount as the culprit.
I take this a new 10.1 install you're talking about as 10.0 used devfs and
keeps it when you upgrade
Yes, this was a clean 10.1 install. I reported the supermount,
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
replies within
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3,
mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over. Then
reboot to cool down the CPU.
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
replies within
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3,
mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the
On Thursday 28 October 2004 12:15, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
replies within
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
However, I can retrieve my photos by booting
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
well, I don't have devfs. According to some bugzilla reports, quite
the opposite is needed. Warly posted something in his notes on
10.1, saying disable devfs, enable udev. Confusing.
BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:12, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 09:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good
folks at Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : if it ain't
broke, don't fix it. In my experience, every new release
fixes
On Thursday 28 October 2004 15:02, Stew Benedict wrote:
snip
Still sounds to me like hotplug and friends. Before I told you
how to disable hotplug with chkconfig, but I didn't mention
stopping the service (service hotplug stop).
It's quite rare in my experience that the kernel itself would
On Thursday 28 October 2004 15:09, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
The kde-mandrake team replied that it is a dupe of another, well
known and fixed bug in kdebase. I wonder if it is true, because it
affects Gnome as well - on my system, that is.
The bug is here :
On Thursday 28 October 2004 02:42 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Well H.J. my palm are WET. I know the feeling of messing
around in /boot and lilo !
Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident
errors. But the camera still
On Thursday 28 October 2004 05:15 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
..there's even smaller which
fit on a credit card CD (50Mb) like the FreeSoftwareFoundation
membership cardhint, hint, nudge, nudge! ;)
Had one for years ;) BTW, did you get the (free to members)
book the Free Software
On Thursday 28 October 2004 16:36, Tom Brinkman wrote:
Had one for years ;) BTW, did you get the (free to members)
book the Free Software Foundation sent out recently, Free
Culture? Interesting reading an I'm only about 10% into the
book.
I have and have gotten as far as you. Just need
On October 28, 2004 02:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
...
That doesn't stop me from wondering, however, why the good folks at
Mandrake don't know the good, ole rule : if it ain't broke, don't
fix it. In my experience, every new release fixes some bugs,
introduces new features , but nevertheless
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 20:51, Tom Brinkman wrote:
IIRC the only anomaly you reported Anne was cpufreq errors in
boot logs. I meant to respond, sorry. I had the same. Cpufreq
is used for laptops to control power usage and heat thru
manipulating processor speed. On a desktop, just
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 10:09, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
I haven't got around to changing to udev yet, so it may not be a factor
at all. I have 2.6.1-12 with supermount, and I'm still seeing the
problem.
When kaj ran tail -f
On Thursday 28 October 2004 19:57, Anne Wilson wrote:
I haven't tried Gnome. I gather that Kaj found the same problem there. If
that had not been so I would have felt that it was definitely kde-related.
Another thing that puzzles me, is that the first time, when I accessed as
root, I could
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:05, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
This looks like the KDE bug that Kaj was pointed to...the gnome part could
be puzzling except: if calling a KDE app. like konq or kedit.
I had gathered he had the same experiences on runlevel 3 but I'm not sure
anymore.
Here's the bug
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Thursday 28 October 2004 19:57, Anne Wilson wrote:
I haven't tried Gnome. I gather that Kaj found the same problem there. If
that had not been so I would have felt that it was definitely kde-related.
Another thing that puzzles me, is that the first time, when I accessed
On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:25, Roy Babin wrote:
Can we please get off of this. It has been going on for days now.
It may not be important to you, but it is to us.
Anne
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Praedor has raised a similar thread in Expert, and Tim Sawchuck pointed to
this cooker thread:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerm=109851321432683w=2
This bit may clear up the Gnome anomaly:
quote
This is a known bug. You can kill the kded and then restart it with
kdeinit kded
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
| On Thursday 28 Oct 2004 19:25, Roy Babin wrote:
| Can we please get off of this. It has been going on for days now.
|
| It may not be important to you, but it is to us.
|
| Anne
And me, because I have an Olympus 750UZ, and I may be
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 00:26, Aron Smith wrote:
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:14 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:40, Rob Blomquist wrote:
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on
(in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its USB
device until hell freezes over or I reboot.
As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied nothing
back from my
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 10:18, John Layt wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on
(in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its
USB device until hell freezes over or I reboot.
As a last resort I
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 10:18, John Layt wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Even in runlevel 3 i can see the process going on
(in /var/log/messages). The system connects/disconnects its
USB device until hell freezes over or I reboot.
As a last resort I
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch, copied
nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available rpms and
tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box.
I have reached the point of considering a switch to some other
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 14:13, Stew Benedict wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch,
copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available
rpms and tried anew. Still staring at my runaway box.
I have
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 14:29, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 14:13, Stew Benedict wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
As a last resort I re-installed 10.1 CE from scratch,
copied nothing back from my backup CDs, updated available
rpms and tried
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 13:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot
again :-/
After a few days' break I came back to this long thread. Out of curiosity I
plugged my FujiFilm FinePix S304 into the one box that I have upgraded to
10.1. I had
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 17:39, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 13:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot
again :-/
After a few days' break I came back to this long thread. Out of
curiosity I plugged my FujiFilm FinePix S304
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 09:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 17:39, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 13:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
I have the feeling this is a kernel bug. Now, I have to reboot
again :-/
After a few days' break I came back to this
On October 27, 2004 10:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
...
The box in question has 10.1OE upgraded late last week from
cooker, running 2.6.8-12 kernel (IIRC). Is there anything else
you would like me to check for correlation?
...
What went wrong with 10.1 ???
Kaj Haulrich.
Just saw this on
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Although I feel sorry for you, Anne (being unable to use your
camera) I'm somehow conforted that I'm not alone !
;-) It's not a big problem - yet! I don't need the camera on that box, but
it certainly tells me not to install on box2 as I
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:52, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
Just saw this on Linux Today: Mandrakeliux 10.1 Official Released
http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004102701526NWMDSW
Might be worth downloading and doing a clean install (you've probably seen
the oft-repeated advice that version
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 19:29, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:33, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Although I feel sorry for you, Anne (being unable to use your
camera) I'm somehow conforted that I'm not alone !
;-) It's not a big problem - yet! I don't need the camera on
that
On October 27, 2004 11:32, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 17:52, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
Just saw this on Linux Today: Mandrakeliux 10.1 Official Released
http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004102701526NWMDSW
Might be worth downloading and doing a clean install (you've
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 19:16, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
Yes, and upgrade _should_ give you exactly the same end result as a clean
install. There should be no difference other than the upgrade being faster
(due to not having to reinstall packages that are already up to date).
But history has
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 02:00 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 19:16, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote:
Yes, and upgrade _should_ give you exactly the same end
result as a clean install. There should be no difference
other than the upgrade being faster (due to not having to
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 21:51, Tom Brinkman wrote:
snip
I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up
problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive into
a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the system
went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk.
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 22:59, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel
2.6.8.1-10 ?
I tried kernel 2.6.3, but it completely borked my ReiserFS.
Kaj Haulrich.
http://ftp.surfnet.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/media/main/
On Wednesday 27 Oct 2004 21:59, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel
2.6.8.1-10 ?
That was on the original download 10.1CE disk
Anne
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On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:20, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 22:59, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Tom, do you have any idea as to where I can fetch kernel
2.6.8.1-10 ?
I tried kernel 2.6.3, but it completely borked my ReiserFS.
Kaj Haulrich.
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 03:59 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up
problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive
into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With 2.6.8.1-12 the
system went crazy, but all is well with -10mdk.
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:41, Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 03:59 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
I know reverting to 2.6.8.1-10 from -12mdk solved boot up
problems checking (Reiser) FS's after I added an SATA drive
into a mix of IDE drives a few weeks ago. With
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Therefore, I wanted to follow Tom's advice and install the
2.6.8.1-10 kernel. Can't find it anywhere, though. Even
rpmfind.net doesn't come up with it.
Maybe I should try the 2.4 kernel for 10.1 ?
Kaj Haulrich.
You could try the
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:41, Tom Brinkman wrote:
-10mdk is the kernel that 10.1 CE was released with. So if
you've got 10.1CE CD's you've got it. I went lookin for -10 on
the mirrors, specifically 'kernel-source' but didn't find it. In
my situation I'm still tryin to figure out why
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:50, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Therefore, I wanted to follow Tom's advice and install the
2.6.8.1-10 kernel. Can't find it anywhere, though. Even
rpmfind.net doesn't come up with it.
Maybe I should try
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Wish me luck.
Kaj Haulrich.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you...as it sounds like a mess on your box
right nowsweaty palms et all, heh?:)
Don't uninstall/re-install too quickly though. Sounds sort of windosy to me to
be a real
On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:06, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Wish me luck.
Kaj Haulrich.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you...as it sounds like a mess
on your box right nowsweaty palms et all, heh?:)
Don't uninstall/re-install too
Hello friends...
Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm :
Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon on my
desktop (be it KDE or Gnome) and I could copy, move, delete and one
thing and another, just as another mass storage medium. I could
even use the
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 14:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Hello friends...
Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm :
Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon on my
desktop (be it KDE or Gnome) and I could copy, move, delete and one
thing and another,
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 19:58, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 14:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Hello friends...
Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm
: Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon
on my desktop (be it KDE or Gnome)
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 20:16, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Thanks, H.J.
Right now I'm a little reluctant to plug in my camera again, because
it makes my 10.1 completely unusable. If nothing else shows up, I
may have to, and will let you know.
lsmod doesn't show anything about a camera.
And
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 19:58, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 14:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Hello friends...
Until I installed 10.1 CE my Olympus C740UZ worked like a charm
: Just plugging it into an USB port popped up a harddisk icon
on my desktop (be it KDE or Gnome)
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Can you decipher that ?
Thanks in advance...
Kaj Haulrich.
Not realy, except that it's disconnecting and reconnecting...but why it's
doing that, dunno:(
Did you try supermount -i disable so as to be sure it's not creating this
muck?
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual result :
my system went completely bezerk. Here I the output
from /var/log/messages :
Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55 kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB
device using address 2
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:40, Rob Blomquist wrote:
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual
result : my system went completely bezerk. Here I the output
from /var/log/messages :
Oct 26 21:05:45 0x50c63c55
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:14, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ???
Kaj Haulrich.
Trust you to find a white raven:(
... ---
Naah, just kidding;)
There's something very wrong on the way this USB device initiates and the
kernel
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:14 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:40, Rob Blomquist wrote:
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 12:13 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
H.J. - Now I dared to connect my camera, but with the usual
result : my system went completely bezerk. Here I the
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 02:50 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:14, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
Ghost in the machine ??? --- Aliens from outer space ???
Kaj Haulrich.
Trust you to find a white raven:(
... ---
Naah, just kidding;)
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