Hello Steve Lamb,
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:59:23 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Sunday, January 23, 2000, 8:59:23 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Steve Lamb wrote:
Steve> Saturday, January 22, 2000, 4:10:31 PM, tracer wrote:
>> It wasnt meant as a joke though as I use the PC often at
t's a lenghthy procedure , but obviously something is
AVK>> left behind;-(
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same so while
the files present get installed, the registry normally gets problems...
In a way Ie4 was the same, once in, extreemly difficult to clean the registry up.
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Hello Steve Lamb,
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:13:32 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Sunday, January 23, 2000, 3:13:32 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Steve Lamb wrote:
Steve> Saturday, January 22, 2000, 1:58:34 AM, tracer wrote:
>> What about white on blue?
Steve> My experience is w
selectable item from a list? (g)
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g was import of my old mail and that was my
stupid mistake...
Admittedly I am not using the Bat in anyway upto its max but its does
what I want in most ways.
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Steve> implemented, *MUST* be removed and, damned all to hell, some people think is a
Steve> really swell idea. No doubt they want bright pink text on a yellow
Steve> background, with blink, as well. Geez.
What about white on blue?
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not be so important. But it is here,
Jast> and I'd prefer if sir tracer would trim his mails a little and put a line
Jast> after the quotes . . . please?
Spmeone told me that one really should have a separator line as a
feature of the bat when quoting, or a blank line.
Anyway,
MS that you need to apply
bandages to fix it
Angel> Just general info: I use Opera AWA IE... different browsers for different
"jobs" :D But
Angel> Netscape is my default.
Angel> Regards,
Angel> ~~~Angel ...your RDR
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ll, my apologies to all!, but my
Thomas> ticker is just a ticker. I don't have a virtual folder behind it. :-(
I donot see it either
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d so far???
have you ever counted them ???
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Hello Allie Martin,
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 05:56:11 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 21, 2000, 5:56:11 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Allie Martin wrote:
Allie> On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:52:26 +0700, tracer wrote:
(snip)
\>>>> X-News gives a reformat facility. Age
interested, well, contact me on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Marck> accounts / folders. I really find it hard to understand why so many
Marck> folks here "hate that ticker" then bemoan the lack of virtual folders.
So what about making it a box instead of a scrolling bar?
I dislike the scroll as I want to see more the
and had
my own code in a few hours.
Agent may not be the best, it sure ismt what it could be BUT it doesnt
cause me any problems
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the needs of its users - not vice versa.
It as always depends on what the user wants who requests, how many
others want the features, how mych work, ie economical to do it, and
if others would object.
Anyway, havent we made enough dead horses(g)?
I would prefer to see V2 before we ask for any
> replying later. If it's a low number, the message gets marked upon my
Fred> reading, and I have to unmark it.
Fred> Comments?
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It also would include a mailbox on the USA server.
At present I am in the process of testing various email programs to
see what works and doesnt. MS stuff works (outlook), Netscape doesnt,
The bat I will be trying out
essages could be marked that need
Thomas> relpies. I haven't heard whether this will be available in v2, but
Thomas> think not.
I would like to get the option to set flags, maybe more then one, especially
as with the sorting one then should be able to sort all t
expand threads and jump read
Tom> messages though. If there's another way, I'd love someone to mention
Tom> it.
My messages are sorted in received order and as they are filtered into
their various folders, normally they are near each other.
Tom> -tom!
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you already have it downloaded I would just install the whole
thing as one never knows what other undocumented changed have been
made...
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Christopher> Too long lines is one of them. But there are plenty of others, and
Christopher> plenty of lacking features (like Base64 and Quoted Printable support
Christopher> for 8 bit characters, code pages converting). I'm still using it, but
Christopher> only
en as an archaic form
Tom> of something that essentially means "hack". "Kludge" does not, and
Tom> never has, meant "header" on the internet.
maybe in Russia ALL headers are hacked??(g)
Tom>
the software. All I want is something that is good at
Tom> handling mail, both incoming and outgoing, both reading and writing.
I agree but its no use trying to try to cause huge changes to bat V1
while we donot know whats in V2
tive" work-around suggestion (like e.g. manually or via QT
Marck> modifying the subject to reflect the routing) before wielding the big
Marck> old cull-hammer.
If I forward it has at the far bottom WHO forwarded it so whats the
problem???
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as> My sincere objection. ;-)
It can be optional...
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Hello Oleg Zalyalov,
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:32:52 +0400 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 2:32:52 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Oleg Zalyalov wrote:
Oleg> Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Oleg> Wednesday, January 19, 2000, tracer wrote to Nick Danger abou
working with a 1.2 gb drive (even if the bios doesnt agree
with it). Even still has a years warantee left...
I unstalled his sw.
Even THAT old thing is fast enough to run ofice 97 without user
complaints about speed..
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tra
e long
SL>> run.
Thomas> Make a constructive suggestion. ;-)
If its broken donot copy it (g)
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in this case. You have to wait those 10 minutes. No other
Oleg> solution possible.
find another isp?
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his, you have a usable
quite nice external editor... It can generate or attach to the bodies...
It has good spell checking capabilities..
It was made to interact with cmpqwk and their own emailer so not really
surprising it may work with other email programs if desired.
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Hello Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer,
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:02:32 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 5:02:32 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote:
Clemens> Hello tracer,
Clemens> Sunday, January 16, 2000
change the
passwords as a precaution. Its a potential reason so why not take care
of it.
Tom> -tom!
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Jast> Hope that was clear ;-D
Send it to whoever makes the next help file
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appened here first thing I would do is change
passwords and see if it still happens...
Anything is possible with Thais running computers
One good reason we are always busy (g).
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:37:50 +0400 GMT your local time,
which was Monday, January 17, 2000, 3:37:50 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Oleg Zalyalov wrote:
Oleg> Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Oleg> Monday, January 17, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to tracer about
Oleg&
ess, website etc etc which one can add for different
usages.
Now what the most easy and eficient way is to use them, no idea as
with many folders and multiple accounts a changed form means one my
have to check every (!) folder/account and every address book entry.
There must be a better way to adm
Hello Thomas Fernandez,
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:06:01 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was Monday, January 17, 2000, 3:06:01 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Thomas> Hi tracer,
Thomas> On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:33:28 +0700GMT (17/01/2000, 11:33 +0800GMT),
Thomas> tra
ething new with TB... and especially the Editor,
>> every single day. :o)
Allie> BTW, did you all notice as well that the block type selection may be
Allie> done by left-clicking in the status bar where the block type is displayed.
Allie> Each click toggles the block selection. :)
- skip prompt
Nick>- adjust automatically
Nick> I'm not sure what all that means... haven't seen any documentation on
Nick> it. What you were referring to... I've never seen any mention of that
Nick> either?
No idea what it does but similar tricks are possible in
Hello Allie Martin,
On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:12:14 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was Monday, January 17, 2000, 9:12:14 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Allie Martin wrote:
Allie> On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:57:39 +0700, tracer wrote:
>> But, how often do you download files which are present
is any system in the results I see but
if its the compiler, not much I can do except retire the program!
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akes supposed to ignore obvious mistakes in email formats or
compensate for it.
Most of my own programs did as otherwise everytime they hit a problem
I had to go and fix it manually...
It shouldnt be that much work to let the bat ignore this error and
then one can advertise the bat as working with Nov
from two mail servers (isp) on Bat.
Lone-Wolf> Any advice? Can't find any error messages in the "Help" file.
Lone-Wolf> Regards,
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Allie> interesting indeed. :)
I am using it, just make sure not to download mail with it (g)
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:43:36 + GMT your local time,
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Mark Aston wrote:
Mark> Hi tracer,
Mark> Just a quick question about your autoexec.bat entry to clean
Mark> C:\Windows\Temp, I maybe c
the index cards.
There seem to be less but they are still there...
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nybody habe experience with a good, free, secure, little
HWH>> Remote Program for using Win95 over IP-Internet.
Lionel> VNC, from att labs: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/
recommended but its a potential security loophole.
Lionel> Didn't try it personally, though.
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one I wrote
myself...
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ven those which were encrypted, so TB! is not so bad after all:-)
Bad?
Look what frontpage leaves behind
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as you are paying for time on the net, I
want throughput to be as close to my maximum as I can. So I tend to
dump things I want , web AND ftp just on the list of things to get and
it will just go and do it while I do other things.
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#x27;d be hard pressed to find a better editor than the one we have, and
Nick> the price is right. :o)
You may laugh but I never started to look around what COULD be run
unmtil we had the request for the external editor.
Ok it should be an option but personally I donot mind
Nick> Nick
n % thats its wise to do so
Clemens> Best regards, Clemens
Clemens> written with TheBat! 1.38e
Clemens> on Windows 98, 4 10
Clemens> Build A
Clemens> on Sunday, January 16, 2000 at 11:36:41 AM
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e two separate
Nick> folders for TBUDL and TBBETA unread mail. I may combine the two, as the
Nick> traffic on TBBETA doesn't seem to be that heavy.
Nick> You are right though... it's a lot easier than all those keystrokes.
What it needs is a BUTTON with settings
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t
loned...
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Hello Allie Martin,
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 07:57:02 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was Saturday, January 15, 2000, 7:57:02 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Allie Martin wrote:
Allie> On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:36:23 +0700, tracer wrote:
Allie> [..snip..]
>> I can also recommend Reget ( I t
..
Other interesting thing one can use is Mr Cool, problem though is that
in the cases I WANT to use it, servers complain and the bat doesnt
combine the pieces of program emailed to me.. Eudora would..
Marck> Cheers,
Marck> Marck
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Hello Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer,
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:17:33 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 14, 2000, 11:17:33 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote:
Clemens> Hello tracer,
Clemens> Thursday, January 13, 2000
our Harddisk, delete it, try again.
Syafril> HTH
But, they shouldnt be created.
I remember seening those things ages ago, all going to my c:\temp
directory which I also use as temp for unarchiving things so it was
spotted as soon as it happened from way back.
As however I autoclean that directory a
ot; here
Steve> means removing the entries marked "Deleted" from the database. All mail is
Steve> filed in the inbox *before* it is filtered. It is then filtered and, if
Steve> needed, marked as deleted.
Correct
Best regards,
accounts with the same
names as before in the same place...
If deleted you likely lost the data. Unless you have a program like
Tiramisu and know how to use it..
Its floating around on the net, a website from Fosi likely has it.
tracer
Using t
s in the Bat in their active
folders or are part of them archived. I just wonder how long it takes
to open the BAT.
With an amount of mail like this you need some partial archiving
method so how do you handle that?
Marck> Cheers,
Marck> Marck
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may loose some spam (as its one of my spam checks) but who
minds...
I tend to zap mail which hasnt got @ in sender and receiver.
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Hello Szendrõ István,
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:16:16 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 14, 2000, 5:16:16 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Szendrõ István wrote:
Szendrõ> Hello tracer,
Szendrõ> Thursday, January 13, 2000, 1:33:43 AM, you wrote:
>>>> Maybe even a te
Hello Steve Lamb,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:49:08 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 14, 2000, 1:49:08 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Steve Lamb wrote:
Steve> Thursday, January 13, 2000, 10:25:48 AM, tracer wrote:
>> Ok, Stefan... a minor cosmetic bug (g)
Steve> V
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The> The Desk... Solutions for Strategic Questions
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Hello Steve Lamb,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:37:33 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 14, 2000, 12:37:33 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Steve Lamb wrote:
Steve> Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:14:17 AM, tracer wrote:
>> Ok, maybe you can explain it, whats the use of a differe
Hello Steve Lamb,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:35:58 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, January 14, 2000, 12:35:58 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Steve Lamb wrote:
Steve> Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:08:40 AM, tracer wrote:
>> didnt have..). Ok, I had the write the things but it mad
nix style editors you mention. I'm not sure of the terminology,
Nick> but what I'm getting at is... what "good" editor do you know of that will
Nick> have a decent GUI to make it easy for us less technical people to use?
http://www.dcyber.com
have a look.
It may come close
nd up with too much
caffeine..
As said I had a good day, good Italian Lunch while sorting his machine
(oops, computer ) out!!
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Claudius> With best regards,
Claudius> Claudius Regn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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thing more than binary extractors (I think that is about
Steve> right). That leaves a 50 email clients, 20 news clients all implementing
Steve> their own editor in their own way. That means to go through them all I have
Steve> t
Hello tracer,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:39:02 +0700 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 13, 2000, 11:39:02 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
tracer wrote:
>>>> There are a lot of BETTER methods -- OLE,
AVK>>> No, don't say OLE is better a method;-) Do you *rea
is it called High colour if it hasnt got any (g)
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> Since the received header is always going to be there, e is always going
Steve> to be there. ;)
correct, as one of the filters I use is if it has NO @, I zap it as
spam...
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en RIT claimed that in TB 2.0 it will be possible to use
Alex> external editor, it became not interesting for me to continue work in
Alex> this field...
If the Bat supports MAPI I can use GATOR, I just checked it, it has a
mail button but that means it att
emens> when you might need it ...
I can tell you when you need it, thats a certainty...
Guranteed when you damage the original(g)
Clemens> Best regards, Clemens
Clemens> written with TheBat! 1.38e
Clemens> on Windows 98, 4 10
Clemens> Build A
Clemens> on Thursday, January 13
Delphi DDE was implemented on very high (and easy for use
>> by programmer) level...
Alexander> That's a perfect point, I've been making it for months already;-)
I agree...
Alexander> á ×ÏÚ... É ÎÙÎÅ ÔÁÍ (pardon for speaking Russian;-))
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tracer
Using th
ts all the time, opens heaps of loopholes etc.
Security wise its a night mare and I am surprised they havent taken Ms
yet to court in the USA about it.
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:03:14 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 13, 2000, 11:03:14 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Januk Aggarwal wrote:
Januk> Hello tracer,
Januk> Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 7:19:51 PM, you wrote:
Steve>>> ACDe
ex> only one reason for RITLabs programmers to support DDE in The Bat! --
Alex> in Delphi DDE was implemented on very high (and easy for use by
Alex> programmer) level...
Agreed and thats a very good reason (g)
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a bit like Steve (g).
Anyway, agreed...
I get html news/mail, and in most cases I read it online as the full
articles are on the web anyway.
I donot need the pictures downloaded in my mail
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;-)
Correct but how much difference it will make depends on many things
like processor, OS and hard disks.
And if its wise to do it depends on what ram it is, potential
upgrading plans etc.
In some cases it might be better in the long run to upgrade
the system...
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e RITLABS programmers are they will not be able
Steve> to build a spell checker as good as a team of programmers who have dedicated
Steve> themselves to building nothing but a spell checker.
100% correct
Steve> <http://metalab.unc.edu/kevina/kspell/>
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Using
you suggest we'll all say "NO" distinctly and
Alexander> clearly! I hope further that everyone here (or at least the majority) will
express
Alexander> their *dislike* for your idea.
Agreed Alex (with you (g))
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having passed my filters to the inbox gets
zapped if I think its rubbish.
Luckily I get very few things I donot really want but even there I
just flag the stuf I may have to read later or search for contents
just 'read' to get them out of the way...
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oblem? Is there a way to stop it?
However painfail it may sound, to me it sounds like a programming bug
so you better describe if it happens to all folders or just some and
whats different about where it happens.
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he email client to read in the temp file and continue with its
>> task.
Alexander> It's not a problem if one could use DDE. A simple script (not a program
even)
Alexander> would help.
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:33:55 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 13, 2000, 2:33:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote:
Clemens> Hello tracer,
Clemens> Wednesday, January 12, 2000
d use DDE. A simple script (not a program even)
>> would help.
Steve> Can one do DDE to a "normal" editor?
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ACDC,
Alexander> practically).
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Not only that, arguing in public rarely leads to a solution anyway...
Angel> Thanks buches, and havea great day! :D
Angel> Regards,
Angel> ~~~Angel
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dots everywhere. The fact is it is blue and
Steve> has been proven as such.
I wouldnt be too sure about that one
I agree its likely not orange with leaf brown polka dots though...
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tracer
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f you expand an
archive to the temp dirs on a reboot they are empty..
With my own way as used before it would do that only once per
day..first boot only and I could skip it if I wanted..
Keith> It appears that you might have hit the nail squarely on the head here,
Keith> tracer. c:\temp had Ba
a downloaded, and it immediately hung with the FETCH error
Keith> Keith
But the Bat on my system IS mentioned as installed software which can
be uninstalled
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Hello Alex Sanyukovitch,
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:50:50 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 9:50:50 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Alex Sanyukovitch wrote:
Alex> Hello tracer,
Alex> Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 7:58:18 AM, you wrote:
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