Re: (313) end of the night

[[Konsept_Kollektive] d-JCB]

werd to you Christian and Sean! But here's a few I think are worthy for the 
end of night track or end of set closers:


::69 - Desire [RS]
::Ron Trent - Altered States [Warehouse]
::E-Dancer - Pump The Move [KMS]
::Peter Benisch - Desert White (Joel Mull remix) [I220]
::Radiohead - Idioteche [EMI]
::FPU - Crockett's Theme [Turbo]
::UR - Final Frontier [UR]


d-JCB [Brendan Krotz]
Melbourne. Australia


Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:07:55 -0500
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) end of the night
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

1. mescalinum united - we have arrived
2. jeff mills - step to enchantment
3. christian bloch - pole position (fly mix)
4. 69 - any track off the red rs record
5. acid scout - 45 degrees

Christian Bloch
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Re: (313) end of the night

[::\)]

I rarely DJ, but wtf:

1.) theo parrish - lost keys
2.) herbert - deep inside of me
3.) gramm - type zwei
4.) pepe bradock - deep burnt
5.) taylor deupree - state
6.) sogar - arid (live at batofar)
7.) dietrich schoenemann - stretch

I could go on but I wont.

hurray for digital media



- Original Message - 
From: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: (313) end of the night


 I'm generally typecast as an end-of-the-night (or 10 am, depending) dj,
 although I think of myself as more the 4 am type ...
 
 Anyway, there are a bunch of these over the years.  Some of the best:
 
 Siouxsie and the Banshees - Passenger (llloco-motion mix 12)
 Boiling Point - I Am
 Model 500 - Ocean to Ocean
 Dubtribe Sound System - Do It Now
 Orbital - Impact (or anything on the 'brown album' really)
 Alice Coltrane - Firebird
 
 

RE: (313) end of the night

[Michel Rijnders]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 11:45, Langsman, Marc wrote:
 - Anything MAW with India on the vocal (to finish dem housey sets)

My favorite for finishing of house sets: Frankie Knuckle's Whistle Song

Cheers,
Michel

RE: (313) interesting ...

[Sean Creen]

I heard the Ben Sims mix a while back - it was really good; kind of in his
trademark style, but retaining the depth of the original. I don't think the
release ever surfaced though; not sure why...

Sean.

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) interesting ...


On the subject of Blake Baxter, anyone ever hear what became of the
Sexuality remixes that were meant to come out on Somic Groove?

Stewart


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(313) 808 State

[Mann, Ravinder [CCS]]

Just been reading the Blake Baxter interview on Overloads and there seems to
be an loads of references to 808 State in Detroit techno, so I like to hear
some of thier material - which albums would you readers recomend ?

thanks

RE: (313) 808 State

[Martijn de Blaauw]

Try New Build (their first album, hard to find), Pacific State or Ex:El
M.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 13 december 2002 11:03
Aan: '313'
Onderwerp: (313) 808 State


Just been reading the Blake Baxter interview on Overloads and there seems to
be an loads of references to 808 State in Detroit techno, so I like to hear
some of thier material - which albums would you readers recomend ?

thanks

Re: (313) 808 State

[Toby Frith]

The Quadrastate EP from 88/89 is good - Ex:El from '91 is ok. Some of
their material has dated rather badly though IMHO.



- Original Message -
From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:03 AM
Subject: (313) 808 State


 Just been reading the Blake Baxter interview on Overloads and there seems
to
 be an loads of references to 808 State in Detroit techno, so I like to
hear
 some of thier material - which albums would you readers recomend ?

 thanks

RE: (313) 808 State

[Quest Pond]

I think the 'ninety' album is worth checking out if only for the 'pacific 202' 
track. A classic chill out tracks and a fine example of early ninety's vibe.

Quest

-Original Message-
From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 December 2002 09:15
To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313'
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


Try New Build (their first album, hard to find), Pacific State or Ex:El M.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 13 december 2002 11:03
Aan: '313'
Onderwerp: (313) 808 State


Just been reading the Blake Baxter interview on Overloads and there seems to be 
an loads of references to 808 State in Detroit techno, so I like to hear some 
of thier material - which albums would you readers recomend ?

thanks

Re: (313) 808 State

[Berislav Oremus]

i would say that ex:el is most complete work after that not my kind of 808,
don solaris is by my opinion worst,
in yer face, cubic, pacific state 202 best pieces by them


b.



- Original Message -
From: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '313' 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


 The Quadrastate EP from 88/89 is good - Ex:El from '91 is ok. Some of
 their material has dated rather badly though IMHO.

Re: (313) 808 State

[PositronicCo]

PREAnything they did when Gerald was a member is worth picking up as well 
as 
ALL Geralds early stuff.  They weren't that good after he left imo...

(313) tracks

[Neil Wallace]

Ive posted some tracks at:

http://www.lionhead.com/personal/nwallace/music.html

theyre all quite old and most are in their 'perpetually unfinished'
stage.

Any feedback welcome.

Cheers

neil

RE: (313) 808 State

[Sakari Karipuro]

Martijn de Blaauw wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 Try New Build (their first album, hard to find), Pacific State or Ex:El
 M.

new build was re-released on rephlex few years ago, so it shouldn't be 
too difficult to find.
 
sakke
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 - * time to jack * - 
http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html

(313) Radio Jatkoaika 13.12.2002 (stream)

[Jussi Lehtonen]

http://byrokratia.org/radio

On Friday 13th 19.00 o'clock (+2h GMT/UT) I turned my computer on. I was 
aware of the risks, because related to this day are many frightening 
stories and beliefs. Old grandmothers tell eerie stories at night to scare 
children, but often in the most incomprehensable thoughts there lies a 
seed of truth.
I started to hear tones which, in the ears of unaccustomed listener, 
caused an outburst of madness and dragged my mind beyond this familiar and 
safe world into the midst of abnormal geometry of time and space.
While the light of reason dimmed from my eyes I still managed to read the 
names floating in the air. The names which were imprinted into my memory 
for all times to come and which I now repeatedly yell as my only words 
to the caretaking staff.

Sairwas
Fax
Nurpo
Virasto

Ia! Ia! Techno ftagn!



J

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Re: (313) 808 State

[techno]

you gotta be kidding me, their best stuff (in my opinion) was after he left
Pacific State, Cobra Bora, album 90, album Ex:Cel, ect..

on 12/13/02 5:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 PREAnything they did when Gerald was a member is worth picking up as
 well as 
 ALL Geralds early stuff.  They weren't that good after he left imo...

(313) Berlin tonight: marke B

[Stang Anya]

Just found this and thought some do'nutters on the list would
be interested http://www.oceanclub.de/bm_v4/bm_v4e.html
Quite some line-up, almost tempted to fly over!
Cheers,

Anya

RE: (313) 808 State

[Brendan Nelson]

808 State is basically Pacific 707 - I tend to think of their New
Build-era material as passable but generic early techno, and their post
Ex:El material as noodly, overproduced electronica, but the Pacific
track is an absolute classic. In many ways it is underrated by a lot of
Detroit techno fans, because it was a really early appearance of the
jazz-techno sound that eventually became more widespread after Nation 2
Nation, World 2 World etc, and I don't think it receives its fair dues
in that respect.

If you own Ex:El then you get Pacific but also quite a few tracks which
have dated really badly. If you own State 2 State (a US mini-album
release from just after Ex:El) you get a really nice mix of Pacific, and
a bunch of other tracks that actually haven't dated badly at all.
There's a track on there with the strings from Pacific running over the
Welcome to techno city Cybotron sample! I'd love to have that on
vinyl...

Brendan

| -Original Message-
| From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 13 December 2002 10:05
| To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313'
| Subject: Re: (313) 808 State
| 
| 
| The Quadrastate EP from 88/89 is good - Ex:El from '91 is 
| ok. Some of
| their material has dated rather badly though IMHO.
| 
| 
| 
| - Original Message -
| From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
| Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:03 AM
| Subject: (313) 808 State
| 
| 
|  Just been reading the Blake Baxter interview on Overloads 
| and there seems
| to
|  be an loads of references to 808 State in Detroit techno, 
| so I like to
| hear
|  some of thier material - which albums would you readers recomend ?
| 
|  thanks
| 
| 
| 
| 

(313) Re vapourspace

[techno]

If you like Vapourspace also check out the Mark Gage releases on Probe
record label under the name Cusp.
I bought the first one back in 93.

Re: (313) 808 State

[P dircon]

Personally, in early days  88-89  when 808state included a guy called gerald
they were pretty damn goos ...  He left after the whole pacific state thing
in 1990  after which I thought 808 state were pretty attrocious

p

 808 State is basically Pacific 707 - I tend to think of their New
 Build-era material as passable but generic early techno, and their post
 Ex:El material as noodly, overproduced electronica, but the Pacific
 track is an absolute classic. In many ways it is underrated by a lot of
 Detroit techno fans, because it was a really early appearance of the
 jazz-techno sound that eventually became more widespread after Nation 2
 Nation, World 2 World etc, and I don't think it receives its fair dues
 in that respect.
 
 If you own Ex:El then you get Pacific but also quite a few tracks which
 have dated really badly. If you own State 2 State (a US mini-album
 release from just after Ex:El) you get a really nice mix of Pacific, and
 a bunch of other tracks that actually haven't dated badly at all.
 There's a track on there with the strings from Pacific running over the
 Welcome to techno city Cybotron sample! I'd love to have that on
 vinyl...
 
 Brendan
 
 | -Original Message-
 | From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: 13 December 2002 10:05
 | To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313'
 | Subject: Re: (313) 808 State
 | 
 | 
 | The Quadrastate EP from 88/89 is good - Ex:El from '91 is
 | ok. Some of
 | their material has dated rather badly though IMHO.
 | 
 | 
 | 
 | - Original Message -
 | From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
 | Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:03 AM
 | Subject: (313) 808 State
 | 
 | 
 |  Just been reading the Blake Baxter interview on Overloads
 | and there seems
 | to
 |  be an loads of references to 808 State in Detroit techno,
 | so I like to
 | hear
 |  some of thier material - which albums would you readers recomend ?
 | 
 |  thanks
 | 
 | 
 | 
 | 

RE: (313) 808 State

[Brendan Nelson]

Yeah, I think Gerald actually contributed in quite a major way to
Pacific and got ripped off quite badly by the rest of the group. The
earlier 808 State material is good, but it's not as good as what was
coming out of Detroit and Chicago at that time - for me, it's Pacific
that really differentiated them from the music coming out of the US. 

As the Gerald-less 808 State started trying to come up with new
material, though, it all went horribly wrong, and by the time Gorgeous
came out 808 State records were more useful as frisbees than as things
to actually listen to... (imho!)

Brendan

| -Original Message-
| From: P dircon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 13 December 2002 20:47
| To: Brendan Nelson; Toby Frith; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; 313
| Subject: Re: (313) 808 State
| 
| 
| Personally, in early days  88-89  when 808state included a 
| guy called gerald
| they were pretty damn goos ...  He left after the whole 
| pacific state thing
| in 1990  after which I thought 808 state were pretty attrocious
| 
| p
| 
|  808 State is basically Pacific 707 - I tend to think of their New
|  Build-era material as passable but generic early techno, 
| and their post
|  Ex:El material as noodly, overproduced electronica, but 
| the Pacific
|  track is an absolute classic. In many ways it is underrated 
| by a lot of
|  Detroit techno fans, because it was a really early appearance of the
|  jazz-techno sound that eventually became more widespread 
| after Nation 2
|  Nation, World 2 World etc, and I don't think it receives 
| its fair dues
|  in that respect.
|  
|  If you own Ex:El then you get Pacific but also quite a few 
| tracks which
|  have dated really badly. If you own State 2 State (a US mini-album
|  release from just after Ex:El) you get a really nice mix of 
| Pacific, and
|  a bunch of other tracks that actually haven't dated badly at all.
|  There's a track on there with the strings from Pacific 
| running over the
|  Welcome to techno city Cybotron sample! I'd love to have that on
|  vinyl...
|  
|  Brendan
|  
|  | -Original Message-
|  | From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  | Sent: 13 December 2002 10:05
|  | To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313'
|  | Subject: Re: (313) 808 State
|  | 
|  | 
|  | The Quadrastate EP from 88/89 is good - Ex:El from '91 is
|  | ok. Some of
|  | their material has dated rather badly though IMHO.
|  | 
|  | 
|  | 
|  | - Original Message -
|  | From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  | To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
|  | Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:03 AM
|  | Subject: (313) 808 State
|  | 
|  | 
|  |  Just been reading the Blake Baxter interview on Overloads
|  | and there seems
|  | to
|  |  be an loads of references to 808 State in Detroit techno,
|  | so I like to
|  | hear
|  |  some of thier material - which albums would you readers 
| recomend ?
|  | 
|  |  thanks
|  | 
|  | 
|  | 
|  | 
| 
| 

Re: (313) 808 State

[techno]

on 12/13/02 6:41 AM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you own Ex:El then you get Pacific but also quite a few tracks which
 have dated really badly.

Pacific is not on the album Ex:cel

 If you own State 2 State (a US mini-album
 release from just after Ex:El) you get a really nice mix of Pacific, and
 a bunch of other tracks that actually haven't dated badly at all.
 There's a track on there with the strings from Pacific running over the
 Welcome to techno city Cybotron sample! I'd love to have that on
 vinyl...

Buy the album UTD.90 on Tommy boy if you want Pacific and the track that
samples techno city.
I have the vinyl version, the mastering sounds really great for an LP,
shouldn't be too hard to find on ebay.

RE: (313) 808 State

[Brendan Nelson]

| -Original Message-
| From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 13 December 2002 12:22
| 
| on 12/13/02 6:41 AM, Brendan Nelson at 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
|  If you own Ex:El then you get Pacific but also quite a few 
| tracks which
|  have dated really badly.
| 
| Pacific is not on the album Ex:cel

*slaps head* This all stems from me having copied that album onto a 90
minute tape when it came out, and sticking Pacific on that tape too...

|  If you own State 2 State (a US mini-album
|  release from just after Ex:El) you get a really nice mix of 
| Pacific, and
|  a bunch of other tracks that actually haven't dated badly at all.
|  There's a track on there with the strings from Pacific 
| running over the
|  Welcome to techno city Cybotron sample! I'd love to have that on
|  vinyl...
| 
| Buy the album UTD.90 on Tommy boy if you want Pacific and the 
| track that samples techno city.
| I have the vinyl version, the mastering sounds really great for an LP,
| shouldn't be too hard to find on ebay.

Ah, I wasn't sure if it had even come out on vinyl. I visited the US in
1990 or 1991 and got it on tape - I think the State to State thing
comes from a track on that album, and that it's actually called UTD.90.
I've destroyed too many brain cells in the intervening years, I think! I
lost all my tapes years ago, so will definitely look for it on vinyl -
the track that samples techno city was pretty nice I think (and back
then I didn't know about Cybotron, so presumed it was actually them...)

Brendan

Re: (313) 808 State

[Tristan Watkins]

- Original Message -
From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


 If you own Ex:El then you get Pacific but also quite a few tracks which
 have dated really badly.

Have to agree except for 'Cleo Leo'. That song has always stood out as the
track on Ex:el for me, but no matter how much I try to enjoy 'Oops' or
'Spanish Heart', it just isn't happening. :(

Cubik was a classic at Medusa's in Chicago around '90 and received
consistent play well into '91. Probably the first techno other than New Beat
I ever heard.

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RE: (313) 808 State

[logic7]

Pacific 0101 from the Pacific 12 got loads of play on Detroit radio
(there were 6 remixes of Pacific on that 12, I still have a cassette
version of it). I do remember Gary Chandler playing Cubik from Ex:El back
in '91-92.

Pacific 0101 is still my favorite track of all time. I doubt anything can
replace it.

-Original Message-
From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:03 AM
To: '313'
Subject: (313) 808 State


Just been reading the Blake Baxter interview on Overloads and there seems to
be an loads of references to 808 State in Detroit techno, so I like to hear
some of thier material - which albums would you readers recomend ?

thanks

Re: (313) 808 State

[techno]

on 12/13/02 7:00 AM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ah, I wasn't sure if it had even come out on vinyl. I visited the US in
 1990 or 1991 and got it on tape - I think the State to State thing
 comes from a track on that album, and that it's actually called UTD.90.

UTD.90 was the Tommy Boy version of album 90 with lots of extra tracks and
State to State is the last track from that album.

 I've destroyed too many brain cells in the intervening years, I think! I
 lost all my tapes years ago, so will definitely look for it on vinyl -
 the track that samples techno city was pretty nice I think (and back
 then I didn't know about Cybotron, so presumed it was actually them...)

The track with techno city is called Donkey Doctor.

Re: (313) 808 State

[alex . bond]

Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

btw, while we're on the subject, does anyone know what Gerald's up to?

Last I heard he was living in NYC, but then my mate said he saw him in
London the other day.

Is he still doing his Juicebox thing? Anyone know?

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Re: (313) 808 State

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Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


 btw, while we're on the subject, does anyone know what Gerald's up to?

 Last I heard he was living in NYC, but then my mate said he saw him in
 London the other day.

 Is he still doing his Juicebox thing? Anyone know?

He had quite a few gigs in London around November. Kept missing him though,
so can't report on the music played. At least one night was one of the drum
'n bass nights at The End, so he hasn't given up on that.

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RE: (313) 808 State

[Robert Taylor]

He DJed at a Theory-organised party called Retrovert in London, alongside
Mark Broom and Ben Sims a month or so ago, but I never went in that room so
I can't comment on what he played. I think he is still on a D'n'B tip.

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Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:28 PM
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Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers

 Start of message text 

btw, while we're on the subject, does anyone know what Gerald's up to?

Last I heard he was living in NYC, but then my mate said he saw him in
London the other day.

Is he still doing his Juicebox thing? Anyone know?

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(313) I'm bored, some detroit-mixes please?

[Remco . Doorewaard]

Hi, I0m a little bored at work right now, does anybody have a nice detroit
dj-mix, from themselves or from others in MP3 format?


With some old transmat-classics would be nice (psyche, drama)


Thanks very much, Remco

Re: (313) 808 State

[Niko Tzoukmanis]

speaking of 808 state, i really love them and i like all
of their albums, but 90 is their best in my opinion-
the most detroit related record however is quadrastate.
the music they did from 93 (including the gorgeous
album) takes quite a while to get into, you really should
love them if you intend to buy them, same with their
brand new album 'outpost transmission', released on
circus (!)
i am wondering about many people reducing this band
to pacific, they've done a lot of other anthems, olympic
for example is a great one too !!

- Original Message -
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


 He DJed at a Theory-organised party called Retrovert in London, alongside
 Mark Broom and Ben Sims a month or so ago, but I never went in that room
so
 I can't comment on what he played. I think he is still on a D'n'B tip.

RE: (313) 808 State

[Odeluga, Ken]

Clearly I need to get with some more 808 state stuff - as for myself, I can
barely listen to 'Pacific' anymore (wasn't it 'number one' in the uk? Or am
I in a rare (!) obfuscated and horribly confused, er state. It was
overplayed imo. But there are similar-era things which I could still go home
and put on now with pleasant anticipation (FSOL's 'Papua New Guinea' comes
to mind.)

As for 'Cubik', although I'm not sure if I made the connection at the time,
I now think it's a poor copy of CyberSonik's 'Technarchy'.

These factors, to me indicate a fragile legacy re. 808 State.

But I need to hear much more of their stuff before I beg 'ladies stay dead',
I admit.
k

-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:13 PM
To: Brendan Nelson; Toby Frith; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; 313
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


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From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


 If you own Ex:El then you get Pacific but also quite a few tracks which
 have dated really badly.

Have to agree except for 'Cleo Leo'. That song has always stood out as the
track on Ex:el for me, but no matter how much I try to enjoy 'Oops' or
'Spanish Heart', it just isn't happening. :(

Cubik was a classic at Medusa's in Chicago around '90 and received
consistent play well into '91. Probably the first techno other
than New Beat
I ever heard.

Tristan
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RE: (313) I'm bored, some detroit-mixes please?

[Brendan Nelson]

If you go to http://www.microlovr.com/313party/, my mix on there starts
off fairly fast  modern, but then goes into a sequence of old
transmat/kms tracks... also, there's a mix called my dancefloor at
http://www.sharesite.org/music.html which has some old Detroit stuff too
- juan atkins (as Vision), inner city, MK, etc, but nothing on transmat
I don't think! There's a tracklist though, so you can see for yourself
what's on there :)

Brendan

| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 13 December 2002 13:36
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: (313) I'm bored, some detroit-mixes please?
| 
| 
| Hi, I0m a little bored at work right now, does anybody have a 
| nice detroit
| dj-mix, from themselves or from others in MP3 format?
| 
| 
| With some old transmat-classics would be nice (psyche, drama)
| 
| 
| Thanks very much, Remco
| 
| 
| 

RE: (313) 808 State

[logic7]

Pacific got loads of play in Detroit. Cubik got some play, but died quickly.
Most people know 808 State because of Pacific, that's why they're reduced to
just that track.

Personally, I like Ex:El more than any other album of theirs. If they had
only released instrumental versions of the tracks with the bad crooning on
it... (I was never a bjork or sugarcubes fan)

-Original Message-
From: Niko Tzoukmanis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 8:38 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


speaking of 808 state, i really love them and i like all
of their albums, but 90 is their best in my opinion-
the most detroit related record however is quadrastate.
the music they did from 93 (including the gorgeous
album) takes quite a while to get into, you really should
love them if you intend to buy them, same with their
brand new album 'outpost transmission', released on
circus (!)
i am wondering about many people reducing this band
to pacific, they've done a lot of other anthems, olympic
for example is a great one too !!

- Original Message -
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


 He DJed at a Theory-organised party called Retrovert in London, alongside
 Mark Broom and Ben Sims a month or so ago, but I never went in that room
so
 I can't comment on what he played. I think he is still on a D'n'B tip.

Re: (313) list members music and trance...

[techno]

How about mixing Robert Miles with Aril Brikha?

on 12/12/02 3:50 PM, fabrice Lig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Completely agree with you Aril...Q1.01, Hood tracks,Vapour space (I like to
 finish a set with that or Innercity goodlife/Big fun...), Red Planet stuff,
 its really close to trance border, or completely trance, finaly whats the
 difference, its good tracks and thats the most important...finaly there is
 only tracks we like and other we dislike, depend of our sensibility, our
 taste. If a cheesy trancy tracks or Pure hard Rock track can give some good
 emotions to someone, its good too...I spoke to an Hard Rock fan this year
 and before he told me that I've never imagine we could have emotions on this
 kind of music, of course its different that what we feel on techno music but
 it gives some pleasure to some other people and finaly its the magic of
 music, everyone has a different taste but everyone can find is way...Just
 look how big is the country music in U.S ;-)
 Also, I noticed in another message that we said that 313 is the only place
 where we can find good producers...oh fortunately not...there is lots of
 other place to find some, there is sooo much
 
 And finaly... As we know how much is difficult today to find a good
 distributor for techno vinyls...who will have the good idea to create a 313
 distribution ;-)

Re: (313) 808 State

[dan]

He played at WANG not long ago, mostly deep house, a bit on the 
cheesy side (as was his Jazz style polo-neck), but good 
nonetheless. He was getting a pretty good response at the points when 
I wandered into that room.


Dan

P.S. If anyone on the list likes dub/reggae, I'm running a soundclash 
in London on the 23rd Dec (a proper one with full rig, MCs etc) which 
will be free entry. If anyone wants more details contact me off list, 
apologies for boring everyone else with this OT tangent.







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Re: (313) I'm bored, some detroit-mixes please?

[Fabrizio Nahum]

try www.techno.co.za
my frined Reefz posts his mixes therei heartily reccommend  the 44
minute stay in motor city and comalove mixes

have a nice day
fab.
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:36 PM
Subject: (313) I'm bored, some detroit-mixes please?


 Hi, I0m a little bored at work right now, does anybody have a nice detroit
 dj-mix, from themselves or from others in MP3 format?


 With some old transmat-classics would be nice (psyche, drama)


 Thanks very much, Remco

RE: (313) 808 State

[Brendan Nelson]

It wasn't number one, but it was fairly successful in the charts. I can
listen to it fairly easy, but prefer the versions without the synth-sax
bit (which reminds me a bit of Guru Josh sometimes). Overexposure to the
track is probably what makes it difficult for you to listen to!

It's the same with LFO LFO, which did well in the charts and kind of
suffered as a result - it's a brilliant track, but I never actually play
it out because it's been somewhat overexposed.

Did Cubic predate Technarchy? I wouldn't be surprised if they did copy
it, though - at that time relatively few people in the UK were aware of
what was coming out of the US, so a lot of early UK techno producers did
plagiarise a bit...

Brendan

| -Original Message-
| From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 13 December 2002 13:40
| To: Tristan Watkins; Brendan Nelson; Toby Frith; Mann, Ravinder [CCS];
| 313
| Subject: RE: (313) 808 State
| 
| 
| Clearly I need to get with some more 808 state stuff - as for 
| myself, I can
| barely listen to 'Pacific' anymore (wasn't it 'number one' in 
| the uk? Or am
| I in a rare (!) obfuscated and horribly confused, er state. It was
| overplayed imo. But there are similar-era things which I 
| could still go home
| and put on now with pleasant anticipation (FSOL's 'Papua New 
| Guinea' comes
| to mind.)
| 
| As for 'Cubik', although I'm not sure if I made the 
| connection at the time,
| I now think it's a poor copy of CyberSonik's 'Technarchy'.
| 
| These factors, to me indicate a fragile legacy re. 808 State.
| 
| But I need to hear much more of their stuff before I beg 
| 'ladies stay dead',
| I admit.
| k
| 
| -Original Message-
| From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:13 PM
| To: Brendan Nelson; Toby Frith; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; 313
| Subject: Re: (313) 808 State
| 
| 
| - Original Message -
| From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
| Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:41 PM
| Subject: RE: (313) 808 State
| 
| 
|  If you own Ex:El then you get Pacific but also quite a few 
| tracks which
|  have dated really badly.
| 
| Have to agree except for 'Cleo Leo'. That song has always 
| stood out as the
| track on Ex:el for me, but no matter how much I try to enjoy 
| 'Oops' or
| 'Spanish Heart', it just isn't happening. :(
| 
| Cubik was a classic at Medusa's in Chicago around '90 and received
| consistent play well into '91. Probably the first techno other
| than New Beat
| I ever heard.
| 
| Tristan
| =
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| 
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| 
| 
| 

RE: (313) 808 State

[dan]

PNG? NOW we're talking! Did anyone check Translations? Any opinions?
Does anybody know if PNG got much play in Detroit?

Dan.


overplayed imo. But there are similar-era things which I could still go home
and put on now with pleasant anticipation (FSOL's 'Papua New Guinea' comes
to mind.)

Re: (313) 808 State

[techno]

on 12/13/02 7:43 AM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did Cubic predate Technarchy?

Yes.

Re: (313) 808 State

[Tristan Watkins]

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To: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brendan Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


 As for 'Cubik', although I'm not sure if I made the connection at the
time,
 I now think it's a poor copy of CyberSonik's 'Technarchy'.

It would not surprise me to find out that nearly every song I treasured in
my techno infancy was a rip-off. :)

Tristan
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Re: (313) 808 State

[techno]

on 12/13/02 7:40 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As for 'Cubik', although I'm not sure if I made the connection at the time,
 I now think it's a poor copy of CyberSonik's 'Technarchy'.
 
 These factors, to me indicate a fragile legacy re. 808 State.

that's not the case, cubik was before technarchy, the first release on plus
8 was influinced by uk bleep techno.

RE: (313) 808 State

[Brendan Nelson]

| -Original Message-
| From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 13 December 2002 13:29
| 
| on 12/13/02 7:40 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
|  As for 'Cubik', although I'm not sure if I made the 
| connection at the time,
|  I now think it's a poor copy of CyberSonik's 'Technarchy'.
|  
|  These factors, to me indicate a fragile legacy re. 808 State.
| 
| that's not the case, cubik was before technarchy, the first 
| release on plus 8 was influinced by uk bleep techno.

In which case I'll put my foot right in it and say that Pacific
influenced UR's The Theory... unless The Theory predates Pacific,
which I don't actually think it does!

Brendan

RE: (313) 808 State

[Mann, Ravinder [CCS]]

 overplayed imo. But there are similar-era things which I could still go
 home
 and put on now with pleasant anticipation (FSOL's 'Papua New Guinea' comes
 to mind.)
 
Thanks for all the tips. True about FSOL, I can still go home and
listen most 
of 'Lifeforms' without cringing to much esp the CD single. The same
can be said
about 'Insides' by Orbital which doesnt appear to have aged at all.

Back to 808 who I didnt get into initailly expect for the 'Pacific'
track, I think Ill
give ex:el a listen and see how I get on.

Cheers

Rav

Re: (313) I'm bored, some detroit-mixes please?

[Remco . Doorewaard]

Thank you, I'll listen to them, always nice to hear some new mixes,
especially with nostalgic (for me) music!!!

Re: (313) 808 State

[techno]

on 12/13/02 7:28 AM, techno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 that's not the case, cubik was before technarchy, the first release on plus
 8 was influinced by uk bleep techno.

elements of tone (first + 8 record) was inspired by unique 3 the theme, or
sweet exorcist test tone.
i suspect kenny larkins first record was inspired by a todd terry acid house
track on idlers which also samples mlks'famous speech.

RE: (313) 808 State

[Robert Taylor]

You gotta check out FSOL's earlier incarnation as Mental Cube. Q rocks.

-Original Message-
From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:14 PM
To: 'Odeluga, Ken'; Tristan Watkins; Brendan Nelson; Toby Frith; 313
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


 overplayed imo. But there are similar-era things which I could still go
 home
 and put on now with pleasant anticipation (FSOL's 'Papua New Guinea' comes
 to mind.)
 
Thanks for all the tips. True about FSOL, I can still go home and
listen most 
of 'Lifeforms' without cringing to much esp the CD single. The same
can be said
about 'Insides' by Orbital which doesnt appear to have aged at all.

Back to 808 who I didnt get into initailly expect for the 'Pacific'
track, I think Ill
give ex:el a listen and see how I get on.

Cheers

Rav


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Re: (313) 808 State

[Toby Frith]

Halcyon times for British techno?  Or a sign of worse to come?  Remember,
rave and hardcore were just around the corner. but thank god for Black
Dog!




- Original Message -
From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tristan Watkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


  overplayed imo. But there are similar-era things which I could still go
  home
  and put on now with pleasant anticipation (FSOL's 'Papua New Guinea'
comes
  to mind.)
 
 Thanks for all the tips. True about FSOL, I can still go home and
 listen most
 of 'Lifeforms' without cringing to much esp the CD single. The same
 can be said
 about 'Insides' by Orbital which doesnt appear to have aged at all.

 Back to 808 who I didnt get into initailly expect for the 'Pacific'
 track, I think Ill
 give ex:el a listen and see how I get on.

 Cheers

 Rav

RE: (313) 808 State

[Mann, Ravinder [CCS]]

Well most of the people I knew at that time where into jazz funk, soul, rare 
groove and some of those liked Pacific because of it Jazz tech nature and Im 
sure would like some of the UR x to x output too


 -Original Message-
 From: Brendan Nelson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:05 PM
 To:   techno; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:  RE: (313) 808 State
 
 | -Original Message-
 | From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: 13 December 2002 13:29
 | 
 | on 12/13/02 7:40 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | 
 |  As for 'Cubik', although I'm not sure if I made the 
 | connection at the time,
 |  I now think it's a poor copy of CyberSonik's 'Technarchy'.
 |  
 |  These factors, to me indicate a fragile legacy re. 808 State.
 | 
 | that's not the case, cubik was before technarchy, the first 
 | release on plus 8 was influinced by uk bleep techno.
 
 In which case I'll put my foot right in it and say that Pacific
 influenced UR's The Theory... unless The Theory predates Pacific,
 which I don't actually think it does!
 
 Brendan

Re: (313) 808 State

[techno]

UR was influinced by skizzo.

on 12/13/02 8:05 AM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In which case I'll put my foot right in it and say that Pacific
 influenced UR's The Theory... unless The Theory predates Pacific,
 which I don't actually think it does!
 
 Brendan

Re: (313) 808 State

[Tristan Watkins]

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From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tristan Watkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


  overplayed imo. But there are similar-era things which I could still go
  home
  and put on now with pleasant anticipation (FSOL's 'Papua New Guinea'
comes
  to mind.)
 
 Thanks for all the tips. True about FSOL, I can still go home and
 listen most
 of 'Lifeforms' without cringing to much esp the CD single.

I think the first album 'Accelerator' holds up well today. 'While Others
Cry' is brilliant. For about a decade I've been living an unfulfilled
fantasy, waiting for them to make something for the dancefloor again.
Something tells me I will not live to see that day...

I read an interview with them a few months ago (can't find it for the life
of me) where they said they thought the first album didn't date so well, but
they still enjoy a few songs. They're crazy.

Tristan
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(313) 313 distro

[Collin McKinney]

And finaly... As we know how much is difficult today to find a good 
distributor for techno vinyls...who will have the good idea to create a 313 
distribution ;-)


you think that's hard, try finding stores that want to stock good techno
vinyl ;(

Re: (313) I'm bored, some detroit-mixes please?

[Eric Scuccimarra]

I've got a short 30 minute mix of Detroit techno that I did about 5 years 
ago on my web site at www.skooch.com.


The direct link is:
http://www.skooch.com/sounds/UNTITLED1.MP3

There are a bunch of other mixes on the site in MP3 format in the Online 
Mixes section, naturally.


Eric

At 03:12 PM 12/13/2002 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thank you, I'll listen to them, always nice to hear some new mixes,
especially with nostalgic (for me) music!!!

(313) that time of year...

[Sean Creen]

Its about time for a top ten of 2002. These are in no particular order and
with the proviso that I'm waiting for a package from Submerge which may
nudge one or two out when I get it!

Shifted Phases - The Cosmic Memoirs of the Late Great Rupert J. Rosinthrop
(Tresor)
Transllusion - L.I.F.E. (Rephlex)
Iridite Productions - One More Than One (Iridite)
Underground Resistance - Inspiration (UR)
Model 600 -Update (Metroplex)
Astrobotnia - Astrobotnia #1 (Warp)
Strand - Message 3 (Delsin)
Peel Seamus - Artemis (Delsin)
$tinkworks - Todas Las Noches (Delsin)
Macho Cat Garage - The Muffler Strutt (DownLow)

Delsin had a good year ;-)

Sean.

Re: (313) 808 State

[techno]

make that:
UR was *also* influinced by skizzo.

on 12/13/02 7:42 AM, techno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 UR was influinced by skizzo.
 
 on 12/13/02 8:05 AM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In which case I'll put my foot right in it and say that Pacific
 influenced UR's The Theory... unless The Theory predates Pacific,
 which I don't actually think it does!
 
 Brendan

(313) FSOL (was RE: (313) 808 State)

[Brendan Nelson]

| -Original Message-
| From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 13 December 2002 14:19
| 
| I think the first album 'Accelerator' holds up well today. 

Definitely - as do the Pulse EPs, which I was lucky enough to pick up in
an Edinburgh record shop for about £3 each two years ago! But if you
find the Earth Beat compilation of their pre-FSOL work, pick it up -
everything on there is made for the dancefloor, and although there are
some quite cheesy rave-style tracks (Smart Systems!), there are some
real gems on there.

I have another pre-FSOL EP of theirs under the name Intelligent
Communication - pretty ahead of its time, really, and it has an amazing
wireframe cover!

Brendan

RE: (313) I'm bored, some detroit-mixes please?

[logic7]

http://www.fatcircles.com

my buddy Chris Layne has a good number of mixes there for download (it's not
his site, he spins on the radio show a lot). Some of them are rather large
(117MB!!!) so a broadband connection is highly recommended.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 8:36 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) I'm bored, some detroit-mixes please?


Hi, I0m a little bored at work right now, does anybody have a nice detroit
dj-mix, from themselves or from others in MP3 format?


With some old transmat-classics would be nice (psyche, drama)


Thanks very much, Remco

Re: (313) FSOL (was RE: (313) 808 State)

[Tristan Watkins]

- Original Message -
From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Toby Frith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:19 PM
Subject: (313) FSOL (was RE: (313) 808 State)


 | -Original Message-
 | From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: 13 December 2002 14:19
 |
 | I think the first album 'Accelerator' holds up well today.

 Definitely - as do the Pulse EPs, which I was lucky enough to pick up in
 an Edinburgh record shop for about £3 each two years ago! But if you
 find the Earth Beat compilation of their pre-FSOL work, pick it up -
 everything on there is made for the dancefloor, and although there are
 some quite cheesy rave-style tracks (Smart Systems!), there are some
 real gems on there.

 I have another pre-FSOL EP of theirs under the name Intelligent
 Communication - pretty ahead of its time, really, and it has an amazing
 wireframe cover!


I'll need to check the other early stuff. I love Humanoid's 'Stakker'. That
Flux Trax compilation gathered some gems.

Tristan
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RE: (313) that time of year...

[Cobert, Gwendal]

Nice list - but:
- Astrobotnia was on Rephlex
- you forgot the Metro Area LP, Brinkmann's Soul Center III, the Disco
Nouveau comp, the Peacefrog comps, the Todd Sines EP... ;-)
- makes me want to check out all those Delsin releases though !
Gwendal

 -Original Message-
 From: Sean Creen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:20 PM
 To: 313 mailing list
 Subject: (313) that time of year...
 
 
 Its about time for a top ten of 2002. These are in no 
 particular order and
 with the proviso that I'm waiting for a package from Submerge 
 which may
 nudge one or two out when I get it!
 
 Shifted Phases - The Cosmic Memoirs of the Late Great Rupert 
 J. Rosinthrop
 (Tresor)
 Transllusion - L.I.F.E. (Rephlex)
 Iridite Productions - One More Than One (Iridite)
 Underground Resistance - Inspiration (UR)
 Model 600 -Update (Metroplex)
 Astrobotnia - Astrobotnia #1 (Warp)
 Strand - Message 3 (Delsin)
 Peel Seamus - Artemis (Delsin)
 $tinkworks - Todas Las Noches (Delsin)
 Macho Cat Garage - The Muffler Strutt (DownLow)
 
 Delsin had a good year ;-)
 
 Sean.
 

RE: (313) that time of year...

[Sean Creen]

- Astrobotnia was on Rephlex

Oh yeh; ooops!

Re: (313) interesting ...

[::\)]

there was just one up at teknet last month.


- Original Message -
From: Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: (313) interesting ...


 I heard the Ben Sims mix a while back - it was really good; kind of in his
 trademark style, but retaining the depth of the original. I don't think
the
 release ever surfaced though; not sure why...

 Sean.

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Re: (313) interesting ...


 On the subject of Blake Baxter, anyone ever hear what became of the
 Sexuality remixes that were meant to come out on Somic Groove?

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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Craig Harrison]

Just some additional info on the posts made.

FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST (see
Asus Flow). There's an old compilation out there of all their various
guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key that
they did on Earthbeat.

As for A Guy Called Gerald, he did a response to what happened to him when
he left/was pushed from 808 State, called Specific Hate, in which he uses
samples of the phone message (apparently, he was kicked from 808 State over
the phone), and he whistles the tune from Pacific State all the way through.
Not sure of the label, but I remember it had a Club as the label logo (as in
Hearts, Spades, Diamonds). Voodoo Ray got hammered, but the promo of it had
a great track Blow Your House Down on the flip-side, which was later
hashed into a more thumping version on the Chicago Symphony EP (red vinyl
bootleg-type affair).

As for LFO? Frequencies is probably one of the finest albums of the 90's.
LFO's LFO had a bit of a rough ride though, as Steve Wright ((ex-)BBC
Radio One deejay) claimed at the time that it was the worst record he
had ever heard, but was under strict instructions to play the track, as it
had been placed on the B-list for airing. John Peel still gave them alot
of praise tho at the time, and rightly so. Mark Bell's gone on to do
production work for Bjork's Homogenic and for Depeche Mode too. Varley's
been doing work under G-Man and presents Tony Montana, but the work is a
bit further away from LFO's roots than Varley's production work. Track 4
from the LFO (Leeds Warehouse) 12 is still a most glorious example of how
to put together atmospherics, bleep and base.

Sweet Exorcist's Test One, that can be traced far further back... half of
Sweet Exorcist is Cabarat Voltaire's Richard H. Kirk. The Cabs Body  Soul
LP is probably one of the most underestimated LP's within the early stream
of techno that was coing from the UK in the early 90's. The similarities
between some of the work that Mills did with Waveform Transmissions Vol.1
and X-102 are scarey-close.

And finally... Orbital. If you get chance to dig around, pick up the two
Mutations EP's... the reworking of Chime is fantastic.

 -Original Message-
 From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 13:43
 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


 UR was influinced by skizzo.

 on 12/13/02 8:05 AM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  In which case I'll put my foot right in it and say that Pacific
  influenced UR's The Theory... unless The Theory predates Pacific,
  which I don't actually think it does!
 
  Brendan

Fwd: Re: (313) 808 State

[- BT -]

I thought that Gerald was involved in Pacific State and didnt get credited and thats what lead him to call one of his tracks Specific Hate - or am I misinformed?
Cheers
BT
 
you gotta be kidding me, their best stuff (in my opinion) was after he left 
Pacific State, Cobra Bora, album 90, album Ex:Cel, ect.. 
 
on 12/13/02 5:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
  Anything they did when Gerald was a member is worth picking up as
  well as
  ALL Geralds early stuff.  They weren't that good after he left imo...
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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Brendan Nelson]

| -Original Message-
| From: Craig Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 13 December 2002 14:56
|
| As for A Guy Called Gerald, he did a response to what 
| happened to him when he left/was pushed from 808 State, 
| called Specific Hate, in which he uses samples of the 
| phone message (apparently, he was kicked from 
| 808 State over the phone)...

If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,
another response to the 808 State situation?

| Mark Bell's gone on to do production work for Bjork's 
| Homogenic and for Depeche Mode too. Varley's been doing 
| work under G-Man and presents Tony Montana, but the work 
| is a bit further away from LFO's roots than Varley's production 
| work.

I think you mean than Bell's production work! They basically split up
because Varley was keen on pursuing a more straightforward clubby and
dancey sound than Mark Bell, who was keen to maintain the air of
sparseness and experimentalism in LFO's music. Mark Bell has put out a
huge amount of material under other guises, though, including the
Speedjack EPs on RS, the Lofthouse EP on Planet E, and a bunch of other
stuff. He's working on a new LFO album at the moment.

Brendan

RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Craig Harrison]

I think Voodoo Rage was the name of the EP that Specific Hate came out on,
but memory doesn't serve me too well these days. f it wasn't, it shows one
thing... Gerald wasn't happy. :)

Yeah, I think I got me Varley's and Bell's mixed up. Good to hear about Bell
is doing some work as LFO tho... very good.

 -Original Message-
 From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 14:58
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)


 | -Original Message-
 | From: Craig Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | Sent: 13 December 2002 14:56
 |
 | As for A Guy Called Gerald, he did a response to what
 | happened to him when he left/was pushed from 808 State,
 | called Specific Hate, in which he uses samples of the
 | phone message (apparently, he was kicked from
 | 808 State over the phone)...

 If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,
 another response to the 808 State situation?

 | Mark Bell's gone on to do production work for Bjork's
 | Homogenic and for Depeche Mode too. Varley's been doing
 | work under G-Man and presents Tony Montana, but the work
 | is a bit further away from LFO's roots than Varley's production
 | work.

 I think you mean than Bell's production work! They basically split up
 because Varley was keen on pursuing a more straightforward clubby and
 dancey sound than Mark Bell, who was keen to maintain the air of
 sparseness and experimentalism in LFO's music. Mark Bell has put out a
 huge amount of material under other guises, though, including the
 Speedjack EPs on RS, the Lofthouse EP on Planet E, and a bunch of other
 stuff. He's working on a new LFO album at the moment.

 Brendan

RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Sakari Karipuro]

Craig Harrison wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 Just some additional info on the posts made.
 
 FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST (see
 Asus Flow). 

umm, Humanoid was Brian Dougans solo project. (track was called Stakker 
Humanoid). there were other tracks by Humanoid but i can't remember the 
titles for now.

 There's an old compilation out there of all their various
 guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key that
 they did on Earthbeat.

Humanoid was released on westside records, and my copy is on ZYX..  

there will be compilation of Humanoid tracks on rephlex soon. as well as 
soundtrack for their legendary eurotechno -video will be released on 
rephlex.

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Re: (313) demf in the free press

[::\)]

i'd give up demf this year if it meant Craig and May taking it over and
doing it right.

if carol marvin runs it again, I'll come for the afterparties since demf
itself will probably continue to decline in terms of real techno feel.


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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:46 AM
Subject: (313) demf in the free press



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Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, trip city

[P dircon]

 
 As for A Guy Called Gerald, he did a response to what happened to him when
 he left/was pushed from 808 State, called Specific Hate, in which he uses
 samples of the phone message (apparently, he was kicked from 808 State over
 the phone), and he whistles the tune from Pacific State all the way through.
 Not sure of the label, but I remember it had a Club as the label logo (as in
 Hearts, Spades, Diamonds). Voodoo Ray got hammered, but the promo of it had
 a great track Blow Your House Down on the flip-side, which was later
 hashed into a more thumping version on the Chicago Symphony EP (red vinyl
 bootleg-type affair).

Yeah the original ep was a four track affair.  With 2 great acid tracks and
blow your house down  ..this was sampled for 33 1/3rd queen on nu groove

Originally it was voodoo rage but the tape ran out or something...

Other great gerald tracks...  Let yourself go...  Which was with 808 satet
wikked acid tune...  Rockin ricki  on  eel sessions..  And I got a white
label  called  trip city  which a tape was released along with a bok...  I
tihnk the trip city is bloody hard to get tho...
 
 As for LFO? Frequencies is probably one of the finest albums of the 90's.
 LFO's LFO had a bit of a rough ride though, as Steve Wright ((ex-)BBC
 Radio One deejay) claimed at the time that it was the worst record he
 had ever heard, but was under strict instructions to play the track, as it
 had been placed on the B-list for airing. John Peel still gave them alot
 of praise tho at the time, and rightly so. Mark Bell's gone on to do
 production work for Bjork's Homogenic and for Depeche Mode too. Varley's
 been doing work under G-Man and presents Tony Montana, but the work is a
 bit further away from LFO's roots than Varley's production work. Track 4
 from the LFO (Leeds Warehouse) 12 is still a most glorious example of how
 to put together atmospherics, bleep and base.
 
 Sweet Exorcist's Test One, that can be traced far further back... half of
 Sweet Exorcist is Cabarat Voltaire's Richard H. Kirk. The Cabs Body  Soul
 LP is probably one of the most underestimated LP's within the early stream
 of techno that was coing from the UK in the early 90's. The similarities
 between some of the work that Mills did with Waveform Transmissions Vol.1
 and X-102 are scarey-close.
 
 And finally... Orbital. If you get chance to dig around, pick up the two
 Mutations EP's... the reworking of Chime is fantastic.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 13:43
 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State
 
 
 UR was influinced by skizzo.
 
 on 12/13/02 8:05 AM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In which case I'll put my foot right in it and say that Pacific
 influenced UR's The Theory... unless The Theory predates Pacific,
 which I don't actually think it does!
 
 Brendan
 
 

RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Eric Scuccimarra]

If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage, 
another response to the 808 State situation?


Voodoo Rage was a jungle/DNB remix of Voodoo Ray down on the Black Secret 
Technology album. Great album as far as that genre is concerned, in my opinion.

RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Ex orcist Orbital)

[Robert Taylor]

.

If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,
another response to the 808 State situation?

Believe it or not, it is a sample of Peter Cook from the Bo Duddley sketch
from the British TV show Not Only But Also and he IS saying Voodoo rage!


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RE: (313) 808 State

[Odeluga, Ken]

Alright, I'll give you that. A *rare* case of me being wrong ;o)

Actually, though, do you know the year? 'Technarchy' I know was no later
than 1991.

-Original Message-
From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:25 PM
To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


on 12/13/02 7:43 AM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did Cubic predate Technarchy?

Yes.

RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, trip city

[Robert Taylor]

People should also check out Gerald's Hot Lemonade album.

-Original Message-
From: P dircon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, trip city



 
 As for A Guy Called Gerald, he did a response to what happened to him when
 he left/was pushed from 808 State, called Specific Hate, in which he
uses
 samples of the phone message (apparently, he was kicked from 808 State
over
 the phone), and he whistles the tune from Pacific State all the way
through.
 Not sure of the label, but I remember it had a Club as the label logo (as
in
 Hearts, Spades, Diamonds). Voodoo Ray got hammered, but the promo of it
had
 a great track Blow Your House Down on the flip-side, which was later
 hashed into a more thumping version on the Chicago Symphony EP (red vinyl
 bootleg-type affair).

Yeah the original ep was a four track affair.  With 2 great acid tracks and
blow your house down  ..this was sampled for 33 1/3rd queen on nu groove

Originally it was voodoo rage but the tape ran out or something...

Other great gerald tracks...  Let yourself go...  Which was with 808 satet
wikked acid tune...  Rockin ricki  on  eel sessions..  And I got a white
label  called  trip city  which a tape was released along with a bok...  I
tihnk the trip city is bloody hard to get tho...
 
 As for LFO? Frequencies is probably one of the finest albums of the 90's.
 LFO's LFO had a bit of a rough ride though, as Steve Wright ((ex-)BBC
 Radio One deejay) claimed at the time that it was the worst record
he
 had ever heard, but was under strict instructions to play the track, as it
 had been placed on the B-list for airing. John Peel still gave them alot
 of praise tho at the time, and rightly so. Mark Bell's gone on to do
 production work for Bjork's Homogenic and for Depeche Mode too. Varley's
 been doing work under G-Man and presents Tony Montana, but the work is a
 bit further away from LFO's roots than Varley's production work. Track 4
 from the LFO (Leeds Warehouse) 12 is still a most glorious example of
how
 to put together atmospherics, bleep and base.
 
 Sweet Exorcist's Test One, that can be traced far further back... half
of
 Sweet Exorcist is Cabarat Voltaire's Richard H. Kirk. The Cabs Body 
Soul
 LP is probably one of the most underestimated LP's within the early stream
 of techno that was coing from the UK in the early 90's. The similarities
 between some of the work that Mills did with Waveform Transmissions Vol.1
 and X-102 are scarey-close.
 
 And finally... Orbital. If you get chance to dig around, pick up the two
 Mutations EP's... the reworking of Chime is fantastic.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 13:43
 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State
 
 
 UR was influinced by skizzo.
 
 on 12/13/02 8:05 AM, Brendan Nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In which case I'll put my foot right in it and say that Pacific
 influenced UR's The Theory... unless The Theory predates Pacific,
 which I don't actually think it does!
 
 Brendan
 
 


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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Craig Harrison]

If you get chance, try and look for AST (Art Science Technology) - Asus
Flow. It came out before Stakker was released on Westside (I think). There
are quite a few remix 12's of Humanoid tho.. the Plump DJ's mix that's used
in Wipeout Fusion is a real tasty affair.

I'm still trying to hunt down a copy of the video they did shortly after...
If you see something called Stakker Eurotechno or something like that,
grab it and hold tight. It later got used by Pot Noodle over in the UK.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 15:09
 To: Craig Harrison
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)


 umm, Humanoid was Brian Dougans solo project. (track was called Stakker
 Humanoid). there were other tracks by Humanoid but i can't remember the
 titles for now.

RE: (313) 808 State

[Odeluga, Ken]

You know, we shouldn't be too hard on ourselves (in Europe you mean). A lot
of that hardcore has deep roots in the US industrial movement which
definitely predates even many people on this list! Granted, there were a lot
of Europeans doing the same thing, but I'd say it's quite difficult to draw
a distinct line and be able to say: 'it was *you* what started it!'

Also re. hardcore, remember Generator-era Oldham and his little stable? It's
not like we were marauding Saxons going over and deflowering this lovely
music, it worked both ways  (that Oldham fellow mindful of getting a
kick in the head next time I see him, here ;) what a sterling chap! - err,
joshing.

Dreaming Detroit - Marco Passarani ( someone else) Generaror, 1995,
getting hard, but bloody good -  *and* soulful.
k

-Original Message-
From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:13 PM
To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; 'Odeluga, Ken'; Tristan Watkins; Brendan
Nelson; 313
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


Halcyon times for British techno?  Or a sign of worse to come?  Remember,
rave and hardcore were just around the corner. but thank god for Black
Dog!




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From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tristan Watkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


  overplayed imo. But there are similar-era things which I could still go
  home
  and put on now with pleasant anticipation (FSOL's 'Papua New Guinea'
comes
  to mind.)
 
 Thanks for all the tips. True about FSOL, I can still go home and
 listen most
 of 'Lifeforms' without cringing to much esp the CD single. The same
 can be said
 about 'Insides' by Orbital which doesnt appear to have aged at all.

 Back to 808 who I didnt get into initailly expect for the 'Pacific'
 track, I think Ill
 give ex:el a listen and see how I get on.

 Cheers

 Rav

RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Craig Harrison]

That cleared that one up.

:)

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 15:10
 To: Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)



 If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,
 another response to the 808 State situation?

 Voodoo Rage was a jungle/DNB remix of Voodoo Ray down on the Black Secret
 Technology album. Great album as far as that genre is concerned,
 in my opinion.

Re: (313) 808 State

[Tristan Watkins]

- Original Message -
From: P dircon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED];
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


 Cybersonik  was definitely 1990  I remember being in the shop when it came
 in  on  +8  the future sound of detroit  along with  33 1/3 rd queen  and
 lost entity  bring that beat back I bought them at the same time


Cubik was 1990 as well. really I think the 'which came first' debate is a
bit overblown with these two songs though, as neither bassline is really a
triumph of melodic construction. It was more about the production. I mean,
it's a 2-bar loop, and just think of the countless spawn that imitated, if
not copied it.

Tristan
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RE: (313) 808 State

[Craig Harrison]

If you're looking for the introduction of basslines to UK techno, then
you've got to look at Renegade Soundwave's The Phantom (Its In There)
(1989).

 -Original Message-
 From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 15:29
 To: P dircon; Odeluga, Ken; techno; Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


 - Original Message -
 From: P dircon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:11 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


  Cybersonik  was definitely 1990  I remember being in the shop
 when it came
  in  on  +8  the future sound of detroit  along with  33 1/3 rd
 queen  and
  lost entity  bring that beat back I bought them at the same time


 Cubik was 1990 as well. really I think the 'which came first' debate is a
 bit overblown with these two songs though, as neither bassline is really a
 triumph of melodic construction. It was more about the production. I mean,
 it's a 2-bar loop, and just think of the countless spawn that imitated, if
 not copied it.

 Tristan
 =
 Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com
 Music: http://www.mp313.com
 Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for
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RE: (313) 808 State

[Robert Taylor]

Or Altern8's Infiltrate 202 - watch out for yer bass bins I'm telling yer!

-Original Message-
From: Craig Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:43 PM
To: Tristan Watkins; P dircon; Odeluga, Ken; techno; Brendan Nelson;
313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


If you're looking for the introduction of basslines to UK techno, then
you've got to look at Renegade Soundwave's The Phantom (Its In There)
(1989).

 -Original Message-
 From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 15:29
 To: P dircon; Odeluga, Ken; techno; Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


 - Original Message -
 From: P dircon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:11 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


  Cybersonik  was definitely 1990  I remember being in the shop
 when it came
  in  on  +8  the future sound of detroit  along with  33 1/3 rd
 queen  and
  lost entity  bring that beat back I bought them at the same time


 Cubik was 1990 as well. really I think the 'which came first' debate is a
 bit overblown with these two songs though, as neither bassline is really a
 triumph of melodic construction. It was more about the production. I mean,
 it's a 2-bar loop, and just think of the countless spawn that imitated, if
 not copied it.

 Tristan
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 Music: http://www.mp313.com
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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Sakari Karipuro]

Craig Harrison wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 I'm still trying to hunt down a copy of the video they did shortly after...
 If you see something called Stakker Eurotechno or something like that,
 grab it and hold tight. It later got used by Pot Noodle over in the UK.

i've seen it, thanks to a fellow listmember; but as i mentioned, the 
soundtrack for that video will be released on rephlex in the near 
future. 
 
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RE: (313) 808 State

[Craig Harrison]

Hehe - knew Mark Archer pretty well (I was at Uni and lived in Stafford for
a few years after). He used to get all the Transmat tracks through Network,
but worse still was the fact that he had 2 copies of Techno : The New Dance
Sound Of Detroit, and the only way that he would give me one was if I got
him a 12 copy of Summertime (yes... that Will Smith person). Also went
around his house while he was doing a remix of a Michelle Gayle
(ex-Eastenders) track, but said that he wasn't enjoying it... only after
hearing the vocal that they'd sent him could you understand why. Never heard
singing so bad.

Never met Chris Peat (knowingly at least). I know that his brother did some
time for dealing tho.

It summed it all up when Mark was asked to respond to what the tabloids were
saying at the time, and that Stafford was Techno City... he said.. the
only thing techno about Stafford is the lifts in the local shopping centre.

BTW. If anyone is interested, http://www.aeonflux.co.uk - it's playing most
of the artists mentioned (LFO, 808 State, Sweet Exorcist, A Guy Called
Gerald (Blow Your House Down is on there too). Scroll down a bit on the
main page, and you'll see the artists on the play list.

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A man who know's what he knows, and knows what he doesn't know, is the sign
of a man who knows.


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 15:40
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Tristan Watkins; P dircon; Odeluga, Ken;
 techno; Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


 Or Altern8's Infiltrate 202 - watch out for yer bass bins I'm
 telling yer!

 -Original Message-
 From: Craig Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:43 PM
 To: Tristan Watkins; P dircon; Odeluga, Ken; techno; Brendan Nelson;
 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 808 State


 If you're looking for the introduction of basslines to UK techno, then
 you've got to look at Renegade Soundwave's The Phantom (Its In There)
 (1989).

  -Original Message-
  From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 13 December 2002 15:29
  To: P dircon; Odeluga, Ken; techno; Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) 808 State
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: P dircon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:11 PM
  Subject: Re: (313) 808 State
 
 
   Cybersonik  was definitely 1990  I remember being in the shop
  when it came
   in  on  +8  the future sound of detroit  along with  33 1/3 rd
  queen  and
   lost entity  bring that beat back I bought them at the same time
 
 
  Cubik was 1990 as well. really I think the 'which came first'
 debate is a
  bit overblown with these two songs though, as neither bassline
 is really a
  triumph of melodic construction. It was more about the
 production. I mean,
  it's a 2-bar loop, and just think of the countless spawn that
 imitated, if
  not copied it.
 
  Tristan
  =
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  Music: http://www.mp313.com
  Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for
  a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
 
 


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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Craig Harrison]

Ahh, my apologies.

/me keeps eyes open. :)

Dscaper
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 -Original Message-
 From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 15:54
 To: Craig Harrison
 Cc: 313
 Subject: RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)


 Craig Harrison wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

  I'm still trying to hunt down a copy of the video they did
 shortly after...
  If you see something called Stakker Eurotechno or something like that,
  grab it and hold tight. It later got used by Pot Noodle over in the UK.

 i've seen it, thanks to a fellow listmember; but as i mentioned, the
 soundtrack for that video will be released on rephlex in the near
 future.

 sakke
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 http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html

RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Sakari Karipuro]

Craig Harrison wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 If you get chance, try and look for AST (Art Science Technology) - Asus
 Flow. It came out before Stakker was released on Westside (I think). 

ok gotta keep my eye on this one.

 There
 are quite a few remix 12's of Humanoid tho.. the Plump DJ's mix that's used
 in Wipeout Fusion is a real tasty affair.

i dunno, i've only heard just few mixes of stakker humanoid; all of them 
from '88! :) (12 i have has 3, original, radio edit and the omen mix) 
and i recently heard from a friend this really strange edit on beatbox 
records. 


sakke
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http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html

Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Oscillate]

In a message dated 12/13/02 10:28:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,

another response to the 808 State situation? 

The reason why it's Voodoo Ray as opposed to Voodoo Rage was because Gerald's 
sampler ran out of time and cut off the last syllable.  True story.

pw

Re: (313) 808 State

[Dan Sicko]

On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, techno wrote:

 UR was influinced by skizzo.

LOL -- now there's a genre for you.  The Belgians trying to cling to days
of New Beat.

RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Craig Harrison]

Well I never.

Don't let anybody say that you don't learn something new here everyday. :)

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 December 2002 16:07
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)



 In a message dated 12/13/02 10:28:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  If I remember correctly, wasn't Voodoo Ray originally Voodoo Rage,

 another response to the 808 State situation? 

 The reason why it's Voodoo Ray as opposed to Voodoo Rage was
 because Gerald's
 sampler ran out of time and cut off the last syllable.  True story.

 pw

Re: (313) 808 State

[Adam]

Dont forget about Rob Gordon's 1989 Unique 3 - The Theme on 10 Records



Craig Harrison wrote:

If you're looking for the introduction of basslines to UK techno, then
you've got to look at Renegade Soundwave's The Phantom (Its In There)
(1989).



-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 December 2002 15:29
To: P dircon; Odeluga, Ken; techno; Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State


- Original Message -
From: P dircon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED];
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State




Cybersonik  was definitely 1990  I remember being in the shop


when it came


in  on  +8  the future sound of detroit  along with  33 1/3 rd


queen  and


lost entity  bring that beat back I bought them at the same time



Cubik was 1990 as well. really I think the 'which came first' debate is a
bit overblown with these two songs though, as neither bassline is really a
triumph of melodic construction. It was more about the production. I mean,
it's a 2-bar loop, and just think of the countless spawn that imitated, if
not copied it.

Tristan
=
Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com
Music: http://www.mp313.com
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for
a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com

Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Gerald]

Craig Harrison wrote:
 
 Just some additional info on the posts made.
 
 FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST (see
 Asus Flow). There's an old compilation out there of all their various
 guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key that
 they did on Earthbeat.

That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises. I was
into all of those when they came out, and luckily enough i have them all
on vinyl. Stakker - Humanoid, Mental Cube - Q, and AST - Esus Flow.
Funny, but i never checked who the writers were of any of them. I just
liked the sound at the time. 

G

Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, SweetExorcist Orbital)

[Gerald]

Sakari Karipuro wrote:
 
 Craig Harrison wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:
 i dunno, i've only heard just few mixes of stakker humanoid; all of them
 from '88! :) (12 i have has 3, original, radio edit and the omen mix)
 and i recently heard from a friend this really strange edit on beatbox
 records.

I remember seeing a remix called the Snowball mix (or something like
that), and if i remember correctly it was a downtempo, dubby kinda mix.
Don't know if this is the one you're talking about though.

Cheers!

G

Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Fabrizio Nahum]

 That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises.

Dont forget Amorphous Androgynous



- Original Message -
From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
Exorcist  Orbital)


 Craig Harrison wrote:
 
  Just some additional info on the posts made.
 
  FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST
(see
  Asus Flow). There's an old compilation out there of all their various
  guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key
that
  they did on Earthbeat.

 That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises. I was
 into all of those when they came out, and luckily enough i have them all
 on vinyl. Stakker - Humanoid, Mental Cube - Q, and AST - Esus Flow.
 Funny, but i never checked who the writers were of any of them. I just
 liked the sound at the time.

 G

Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Gerald]

Yeah, i remembered that one. 

Gorgeous album that i still like to listen to.

Fabrizio Nahum wrote:
 
 
  That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises.
 
 Dont forget Amorphous Androgynous
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:24 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)
 
  Craig Harrison wrote:
  
   Just some additional info on the posts made.
  
   FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST
 (see
   Asus Flow). There's an old compilation out there of all their various
   guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key
 that
   they did on Earthbeat.
 
  That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises. I was
  into all of those when they came out, and luckily enough i have them all
  on vinyl. Stakker - Humanoid, Mental Cube - Q, and AST - Esus Flow.
  Funny, but i never checked who the writers were of any of them. I just
  liked the sound at the time.
 
  G
 

(313) Top 19 of 2002

[Tristan Watkins]

I've got a top 19, with one slot open for once I've finished shopping this
year. Not terribly [313] throughout, but some [313] goodies. I'm becomming a
wuss, it would seem. Only 4 techno records made the cut.

1. Ola Jagun  The Ancestral Rhythms - Oda Oya (The Rebirth Version) -
Spiritual Life Music [SLM-389]

2. Convextion - Spiced Tea - Down Low [dLVEXT1]

3. Iz  Diz's - Mouth (Brad Peep's Remix for friends) - Classic [CMC65RMX]

4. Classic Man - Lounge Sessions ep - Natural Resource [NR-002]

5. Neon Phusion - It's Another EP - Laws of Motion [LM025]

6. MOS feat. Aroy Dee - Utilities #2 - Rushhour Records [RH006]

7. Rednose Distrikt - N.Y. Boom Domu Remixes - Rushhour Records [RH 009]

8. Kuniyuki - Precious Hall - Natural Resource [NR-004]

9. Joseph Malik - Take It All In and Check it All Out b/w Futuristica -
Compost Records [COMPOST 103-1]

10. Recloose - Ain't Changin' - PLanet E [PE65266]

11. V/A - Detroit Beatdown Volume One - Third Ear Recordings [3E/LP 001]

12. Focus - Marvin Is One - Versatile Records [VER032]

13. Russ Gabriel - Flip Down to Break - Emoticon [emot 011]

14. Theo Parrish - Solitary Flight - Sound Signature [SS016]

15. Incognito - Skin on My Skin (Pepe Braddock's Brad Peep Remix) - Talkin'
Loud [588 970-1]

16. Los Hermanos - Birth of 3000 b/w Son Dos - UR [LH-1]

17. Surgeon - Screw the Roses - Counterbalance [CBX008]

18. Pepe Bradock - The Forbidden Fruit EP - Atavisme [ATA002]

19. DJ Jazzy Jeff - Rock Wit U Feat. Erro (Yoruba Soul Mix) - BBE
[BBEBG12007]

I strongly suspect the Visioneers 2nd 7 will come in at #20.

Tristan
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Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Klaas-Jan Jongsma]

At 18:25 +0100 13-12-2002, Fabrizio Nahum wrote:

 

 That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises.


Dont forget Amorphous Androgynous


In the latest Future Music was an interview with FSOL, thy said they 
are releasing a new Amorphous Androgynous album...


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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Ex orcist Orbital)

[Robert Taylor]

The new one is a mixed bag - great sitar playing, incredible production but
godawful prog-rock singing from Cobain himself - extremely self-indulgent
stuff - but it's no surprise from someone who has been holed up in his
studio for three years drinking his own urine.

-Original Message-
From: Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:32 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Cc: Fabrizio Nahum
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
Exorcist  Orbital)


Yeah, i remembered that one. 

Gorgeous album that i still like to listen to.

Fabrizio Nahum wrote:
 
 
  That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises.
 
 Dont forget Amorphous Androgynous
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:24 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
 Exorcist  Orbital)
 
  Craig Harrison wrote:
  
   Just some additional info on the posts made.
  
   FSOL's took the Stakker theme from one of their previous projects, AST
 (see
   Asus Flow). There's an old compilation out there of all their various
   guises, such as Yage, Mental Cube, Stakker... basically everything key
 that
   they did on Earthbeat.
 
  That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises. I was
  into all of those when they came out, and luckily enough i have them all
  on vinyl. Stakker - Humanoid, Mental Cube - Q, and AST - Esus Flow.
  Funny, but i never checked who the writers were of any of them. I just
  liked the sound at the time.
 
  G
 


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Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, SweetExorcist Orbital)

[Sakari Karipuro]

Gerald wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 Sakari Karipuro wrote:
  
  and i recently heard from a friend this really strange edit on beatbox
  records.
 
 I remember seeing a remix called the Snowball mix (or something like
 that), and if i remember correctly it was a downtempo, dubby kinda mix.
 Don't know if this is the one you're talking about though.

nope i'm sure it isn't that one; the mix was definitely sort of 
cut'n'paste (on reel-to-reel) job between original mix and the omen 
mix, mostly with pieces of the track without 303, and it was just a 
little bit faster than the omen mix (probably because of reel-to-reel, 
vinyl pressing, etc). i called my friend and he said that the a-side has 
original mix and the strange mix on b-side is the other mix. forgot to 
ask the year though, but definitely '88/'89 era. 
 
oh, and everyone, please remember; Humanoid is the artist, Stakker 
Humanoid is the track name :) 


sakke
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http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html

Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Sakari Karipuro]

Gerald wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises. I was
 into all of those when they came out, and luckily enough i have them all
 on vinyl. 

there's of course amorphous androgynous whose first album tales of 
ephidrina is excellent. released in '93.. :)

sakke
-- 
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http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html

Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Exorcist Orbital)

[Sakari Karipuro]

Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 At 18:25 +0100 13-12-2002, Fabrizio Nahum wrote:
   
   That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises.
 
 Dont forget Amorphous Androgynous
 
 In the latest Future Music was an interview with FSOL, thy said they 
 are releasing a new Amorphous Androgynous album...

Isness was released in europe as The Future Sound of London but in US 
it was released as Amorphous Androgynous, or was it the other way 
around. strange stuff indeed.
 
juno had it btw under The Future Sound of London presents Amorphous 
Androgynous.

sakke
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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Ex orcist Orbital)

[Robert Taylor]

Er...I have it and it's definitely Amorphous Androgynous, rather than FSOL.

-Original Message-
From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:41 PM
To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma
Cc: Fabrizio Nahum; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
Exorcist  Orbital)


Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 At 18:25 +0100 13-12-2002, Fabrizio Nahum wrote:
   
   That's freakin' weird. I never knew that FSOL had so many guises.
 
 Dont forget Amorphous Androgynous
 
 In the latest Future Music was an interview with FSOL, thy said they 
 are releasing a new Amorphous Androgynous album...

Isness was released in europe as The Future Sound of London but in US 
it was released as Amorphous Androgynous, or was it the other way 
around. strange stuff indeed.
 
juno had it btw under The Future Sound of London presents Amorphous 
Androgynous.

sakke
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Re: (313) end of the night

[Gerald]

::) wrote:
 
 I rarely DJ, but wtf:
 
 4.) pepe bradock - deep burnt

This get's my vote as well!

+ i'll throw in one more for good measure.

Kraftwerk - Spacelab

:)

G

(313) Dec.26 Sweet Beats

[dj revolver]

Sweet Beats Party. Thursday Dec 26th, 2002 (boxing day) at the Loop in 
Windsor located at the corner of Chatham and Pitt upstairs.


Featuring DJ's Cool- Aid Chemist, bt basher, Ian Hind, and DJ Revolver.

9 pm- ? / $5 cover








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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Ex orcist Orbital)

[Sakari Karipuro]

Robert Taylor wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 Er...I have it and it's definitely Amorphous Androgynous, rather than FSOL.

review:
http://www.releasemagazine.net/Onrecord/orfsolti.htm

with cover pic with FSOL text
http://www.rewireviews.com/FSOLIsness.asp

cleopatra (their us label) tells about the misprint, refers to The 
Future Sound of London
http://www.cleorecs.com/ 

sakke
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RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet Ex orcist Orbital)

[Robert Taylor]

Mine must be misprint then!
Perhaps it's worth a bit.

-Original Message-
From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:57 PM
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; Fabrizio Nahum; 313
Subject: RE: (313) 808 State (and A Guy Called Gerald, FSOL, LFO, Sweet
Ex orcist  Orbital)


Robert Taylor wrote on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 about following:

 Er...I have it and it's definitely Amorphous Androgynous, rather than
FSOL.

review:
http://www.releasemagazine.net/Onrecord/orfsolti.htm

with cover pic with FSOL text
http://www.rewireviews.com/FSOLIsness.asp

cleopatra (their us label) tells about the misprint, refers to The 
Future Sound of London
http://www.cleorecs.com/ 

sakke
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Re: (313) demf in the free press

[diana potts]

Well, we all know what happens when we give it to Pop
Culture

(all those that still haven't been paid put your hands
in the air and say 'hellz yeah')

--- rob buse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf13_20021213.htm
 
 

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