[BAROQUE-LUTE] Hobach Sinfonia Etc in Pll-Wn RM 4138 (olim Mf 2005)

2020-01-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Does any one know if the other instrumental parts of the Sinfonia (on page 46 of this MS) survive? And their whereabouts? And, even better if they have a band set they could scan or post a link to? -- I had, at first, thought it might be a solo piece and the title referred

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: In Venetiis , Paris Weiss Ms II online

2020-01-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Many thanks Markus Best wishes for 2020 Martyn On Saturday, 4 January 2020, 23:38:24 GMT, Markus Lutz wrote: Dear friends, I noticed some minutes ago, that the "In Venetiis" Weiss manuscript now is finally online: [1]https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52511501b B

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ask about using wood for fingerboard as ribs

2019-11-27 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Yes - And finish it with Stand Oil (ie linseed Oil which has already partly oxidised - NB not the modern chemically altered stand oil used nowadays by artists), This gives a fine satin sheen finish on the wood and dries hard but remains flexible. MH On Wednesday, 27 November 2019

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Wenzel Ludwig Edler von Radolt

2019-08-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you for this Bernhard, Yes indeed, Von Radolt has interesting things to say to us. An earlier FoMRHI joint paper explores his instructions: Comm 737 Von Radolts instructions to lute players (,,,1701). [1]https://www.fomrhi.org/uploads/bulletins/Fomrhi-044.pdf This paper has

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Johann Christian Hoffmann, 14 course swan-neck lute in Leipzig

2018-02-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear David, Yes indeed. And to add to your guesstimate about lutes, the number of extant mandoras/gallicons is only about 70 made between 1688 and 1780 (most are listed Dieter Kirsch 'La mandora au XVIII siecle'). Although their geographical area of production (and common use) was q

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Johann Christian Hoffmann, 14 course swan-neck lute in Leipzing

2018-02-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
At 12:21 + 13/2/18, Martyn Hodgson wrote:    Two other well known lutesby Johann Christian in the Brussels    collection are fairly deep too, having a depth greaterthan half the    width (roughly 0.57):    Leipzig 1716 eleven course (M 1559): body length 495;width 323; depth    185 Â

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Johann Christian Hoffmann, 14 course swan-neck lute in Leipzing

2018-02-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Two other well known lutes by Johann Christian in the Brussels collection are fairly deep too, having a depth greater than half the width (roughly 0.57): Leipzig 1716 eleven course (M 1559): body length 495; width 323; depth 185 Leipzig 1730 thirteen course with bass rider (M 3188

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - life after death....

2018-02-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
___ From: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" To: VihuelaList Cc: Martyn Hodgson Sent: Monday, 12 February 2018, 21:44 Subject: MS CZ- Bm D 189 - the Last Post Dear Martyn I am sorry to have denied you the opportunity to fully reply to my message of 31 Jan and its various

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Regarding: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - weathering the storm!

2018-02-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
ut, to quickly pre-empt another red herring in the offing, I'm obliged to mention that the mandore and the mandora are actually two entirely different instruments... - Forwarded Message - From: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - a fresh tack! 2

2018-02-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - a fresh tack! 2 From: Martyn Hodgson <[4]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: "[5]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <[6]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; VihuelaList <[7]vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Baroque Lu

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Further to Re: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - a fresh tack! 2

2018-02-09 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Is this a correct statement of your position? regards Martyn PS I copy this to the 'Baroque Lute' list since the mandora is a lute instrument - and a baroque lute to boot! === == - Forwarded

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack!

2018-01-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica, As you now know, I haven't yet replied to your latest open mailings since these had both ended by saying that you 'were going to leave it for now' and I therefore took this as meaning I might soon expect something further. Accordingly, not wishing to respond in a pi

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Even more to yet moRe: re. Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson To: Monica Hall ; VihuelaList ; Baroque Lute List Sent: Sunday, 14 January 2018, 16:35 Subject: Even more to yet more: re. Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing Dear Monica, = I've thought

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Yet more Re: [VIHUELAR) Re: Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica. My responses are interposed below in bold, new roman and italic for clear differentiation (sadly, though, not in my preferred typeface for the others on the list version which only goes to them in standard typeface and no spacing but, from what Wayne tells me, it'll reac

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica, Comments on D 189 Moravske zemske muzeum We briefly discussed this interesting MS some four years ago - partly in the context of the placement of the octave strings on the fourth (and fifth) course of the five course guitar. I also recall posting something on Wayne's

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Anthony Bailes paper in "The Lute" - and my holiday work

2017-10-09 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Andreas, Henry is a shadowy figure to me amongst guitarists active in Paris at the time - do you have any information about him?. His Methode must have been reasonably popular since it's the 3rd edition and up against a great deal of competition in Paris at the time (1826) - and

[BAROQUE-LUTE] [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re : [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re : [BAROQUE-LUTE] Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
an's weak metaphors for which I also apologise. Best wishes Anthony [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone Le vendredi, fà ©vrier 3, 2017, 4:52 PM, Martyn Hodgson <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> a à ©crit : Dear Anthony, I may well have misundersto

[BAROQUE-LUTE] [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re : [BAROQUE-LUTE] Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Anthony, I may well have misunderstood the point you make 'and the extra diameter beyond the bridge behaving similarly to loading, but as though the loading were more of the same material' - surely the physical characteristics of a string largely determine the sound - else w

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Once again Mimmo, many thanks for all your efforts and for taking the trouble to listen to us out here! I much liked your old loaded gut and I still have some on various lutes (including the 6th course of a large theorbo where it smooths the transition to the long basses). Close to t

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
_ From: Mimmo To: Martyn Hodgson Cc: Matthew Daillie ; Martin Shepherd ; "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017, 12:39 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Thanks Martyn, I mean more predominant fundamental and less sust

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Mimmo, Thank you for your continuing efforts in manufacturing these strings. I agree with much of what has been said: - especially with Martin Shepherd about the unfortunate influence rose pluckers have had on stringing often leading to high tensions of overwound strings in the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms 5038 in Norway, ca 1830?

2016-01-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
ave passed on works from their own youth. MH __________ From: G. C. To: Martyn Hodgson Cc: AJN ; "chriswi...@yahoo.com" ; "theoj89...@aol.com" ; "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Sent: Sunday

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms 5038 in Norway, ca 1830?

2016-01-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Henning has written about this book - I've no reason to doubt it. [1]http://folk.uio.no/henninho/Gitar.html MH __ From: AJN To: kalei...@gmail.com; chriswi...@yahoo.com Cc: theoj89...@aol.com; baroque-lute@cs.d

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms 5038 in Norway, ca 1830?

2016-01-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
The book first belonged to Johanne Christine Hertzberg (1708 - 1801) and in my view was mostly compiled around 1740/50 but contains some works from late seventeenth century French sources. The music is also very similar to that by Nathanael Diesel in the large MS compilation held in

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Big Edlingers

2013-07-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Sterling, Further to your note about the very largest of German Dm lutes, we might also recognise that they may have had the so-called German theorbo tuning ie with the first course at a nominal d' which could thus bear the increased stress of such a string length. Instruments

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Big Edlingers

2013-07-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
the sort of pitch which might have been used historically on a particular sized instrument. Martyn __ From: sterling price To: Martyn Hodgson ; baroque lute list Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013, 9:21 Subject: R

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Big Edlingers

2013-07-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
It all depends on how often you're prepared to replace the highest pitched course (ie the first string): at modern pitch A440 with a 76cm fingered string length, e'flat would be the highest I would normally expect ie nominal f' at A392 (a whole tone under usual modern pitch). Indeed,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pierre Gaultier in 1720! Old "early music"?

2013-05-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
or vibrato MH From: Mathias Roesel To: baroque-lute mailing-list Cc: Lute List Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 19:34 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pierre Gaultier in 1720! Old "early music"? I do not own a copy of RA-BAn Ms. 236.R - 13769, but the incipits (thx,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Thomas Mace and Cozen-German

2012-11-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I think it means a cousin from the same family. Mace might then be describing a relative MH --- On Mon, 5/11/12, Peter Steur wrote: From: Peter Steur Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Thomas Mace and Cozen-German To: "Baroque Lute" Date: Monday, 5 November, 2012, 8:43

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 'Baroque lute' songs

2012-08-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Mathias, Thanks for this. Italian 7/8 course lutes are distinctly different to the mandoras/gallichons found in German speaking lands in the 18th century in a number of significant respects. Noteably: 1. Length of neck - mandoras in original state have room for 9 tied

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 'Baroque lute' songs

2012-08-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Matthias, I agree with much of what you say. However regarding the observation that ' One may reasonably argue whether this is an accompaniment or an instrumental arrangement as there is no extra voice part. Instead, the lyrics are written beneath the tablature which incl

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Kleinknecht vid

2012-08-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Excellent - as you say a much neglected work and one requiring much panache and affet which you provide. I wonder if it's an arrangement of a keyboard sonata? I'm not aware of any relevant research - are you? Martyn --- On Tue, 28/8/12, Christopher Wilke wrote: From: Chr

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 'Baroque lute' songs

2012-08-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Bill, There are indeed a few sources for songs accompanied by lute: one such which is readily vailable (tho' 18th century) is Beyer's 1760 setting of some Gellert odes. See this: [1]http://petrucci.mus.auth.gr/imglnks/usimg/c/c2/IMSLP204541-PMLP34546 6-Gellert.pdf And

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Fasch concerto

2012-08-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Fasch is a fairly well known composer who wrote works in a variety of forms and instrumentation. His concerto in Dm is in the large Dresden collection (Mus.Ms. 2423.v.1) scored in four parts with lute: two violins, viola, Lluto, cembalo/basso (unfigured). Note that the lute is

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Visee in Res. 1106

2012-06-23 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Visee in Res. 1106 To: "Richard Stone" Date: Saturday, 23 June, 2012, 14:52 Dear Richard, I have a good(ish) photocopy of Res 1106 (only the faint piece on f.81 is hard to decipher) but not a pdf version.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Arpeggio question

2012-05-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--1386533404-137319751-1337257701=:5336 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris,   A couple of years (or so) ago I asked about the chords in a Preludio for Tiorbas In NB 17706. There are small numbers (either a 2 or a 3) below some chordal p

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Mouton's "campanella" technique

2012-04-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Von Radolt also employs this technique in his 'Der Aller Treueeste Freindin...' (Vienna 1701) - see the paper with relevant translation and commentary by Bill Samson and me in FoMRHI Quarterly some years ago (digital copies available - search FoMRHI). And I've recall at least one o

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: JF Daube

2012-04-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Re works by J F Daube, as well as the lute works, there is at least one piece by him which includes mandora: a sonata for violin and mandora from his 'Musical Dilettante: A Treatise on Composition (Vienna, 1773 )'. This work was aimed at amateurs and especially aristocratic dilett

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pre-judgement (or wishful thinking) was Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
nking) was Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD To: "Martyn Hodgson" Cc: "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Tuesday, 20 March, 2012, 12:52 Dear Martyn I must appologize for not having seen your message; I actually wrote a subpart to my mail to Ed (on su

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Stringing in relation to lute size [WasRe: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
ed on a large bass lute and brought being both up to their relative pitches rgds M --- On Sun, 18/3/12, William Samson wrote: From: William Samson Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD To: "Martyn Hodgson" , "baroque-lu

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
instrument. rgds Martyn --- On Sun, 18/3/12, William Samson wrote: From: William Samson Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD To: "Martyn Hodgson" , "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Sunday, 18 March, 2012, 9:22 Hi Mart

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Pre-judgement (or wishful thinking) was Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Anthony, I agree with most of what you write below. There is, however, one elephant-in-the-room issue which, I think, goes to the heart of the matter, viz: how much our individual pre-judgements/prejudices may influence our choices in spite of the evidence. A particular, a

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Anthony, There's no reason why such bass gut strings shouldn't work almost as well on a small lute as on a bigger one: simply the overall pitching will be higher (ie in both cases the highest string will be pulled up as close as possible to breaking stress). Martyn ---

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: What lutes for 17th century French music was: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von Martyn Hodgson > Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Maerz 2012 13:39 > An: baroque-lute mailing-list; Mathias Roesel > Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: What lutes for 17th century French music was: Ne

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: What lutes for 17th century French music was: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
e@cs.dartmouth.edu>,"Edward Martin" ><[7][6]e...@gamutstrings.com>Date: Friday, 16 March, 2012, 8:33 Hi >Martyn, Do you know what the string length of the Wenger is? >Bill From: Martyn Hodgson <[1][8][7]hodgsonmar...@yah

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: What lutes for 17th century French music was: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
options - you can go for the free version which has occasional ads between tracks, or the paid version that is ad-free. Being a Scotsman I put up with the ads! Best wishes, Bill From: Martyn Hodgson <[3][2]hodgsonmar...@ya

[BAROQUE-LUTE] What lutes for 17th century French music was: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
on wrote: From: William Samson Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD To: "Martyn Hodgson" , "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" , "Edward Martin" Date: Friday, 16 March, 2012, 8:33 Hi Martyn, Do you know what the s

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ne Anthony Bailes CD

2012-03-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Edward, Thank you for this notice: in fact this CD has been out in Europe for over a year. Unfortunately, as Anthony Bailes later agreed (see letters in Lute News from No 94, August 2010 on), the large Wenger lute used on the recording (if indeed it was built as a lute and

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Incorrect again Howard - he does not say those who use tastini are 'prominent' players as you do (from where do you get this), but that they are foolish. MH --- On Fri, 6/1/12, howard posner wrote: From: howard posner Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to wor

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Date: Friday, 6 January, 2012, 16:38 On Jan 6, 2012, at 1:57 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: > Equal temperament was used on lutes from the 16th century onwards Except by Gerle (1532) And the Dowlands (1610) And Ganassi (1543) And Mersenne (1636) And anyone who read their b

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Equal temperament was used on lutes from the 16th century onwards (much contemporary comment/evidence). This is because the same fret spaces are obliged to fit both chromatic and diatonic intervals. However, some mid 17th century French style lute music might allow a particular mea

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Male alto in Lute songs? wasTransposing lute tablature on sight

2011-12-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
"Baroque lute Dmth" , "lute mailing list list" Date: Friday, 2 December, 2011, 18:28 On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: > As David Hill points out (have you bothered > to read his paper?) the voice generally expected when the songs

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Male alto in Lute songs? [wasTransposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392]]

2011-12-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
ange? Martyn --- On Fri, 2/12/11, howard posner wrote: From: howard posner Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392] To: "Baroque lute Dmth" Date: Friday, 2 December, 2011, 15:21 On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:29 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: > Have you

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392]

2011-12-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
/11, howard posner wrote: From: howard posner Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392] To: "Baroque lute Dmth" Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 21:14 On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: > We've

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392]

2011-12-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Re: A=392] To: "Baroque lute Dmth" Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 16:06 On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: > why would you wish to transpose the lute part at all? I can claim no particular great expertise on the subject of transposition motivation, bu

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Male alto in Lute songs? [wasTransposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392]]

2011-12-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Re: A=392] To: "Baroque Lute List (E-mail)" Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 10:22 On 1 December 2011 11:08, Martyn Hodgson <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Further to this, all the sopranos and tenors I have worked with have found the early lute s

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392]

2011-12-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
David, Further to this, all the sopranos and tenors I have worked with have found the early lute song repertoire well within their comfortable range: why would you wish to transpose the lute part at all? Martyn --- On Thu, 1/12/11, Martyn Hodgson wrote: From: Martyn

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392]

2011-12-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
uot; Date: Wednesday, 30 November, 2011, 15:39 On 30 November 2011 16:12, Martyn Hodgson <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > What you actually wrote was 'Transposing lute song (intabulated parts) > isn't that hard for an experienced player'.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392]

2011-11-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
[was Re: A=392] To: "Martyn Hodgson" Cc: "Baroque Lute List (E-mail)" , "David van Ooijen" Date: Wednesday, 30 November, 2011, 15:45 Just to jump in the fray. My wife is aprofessional musician, as many of you are, and I asked here if sh

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392]

2011-11-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
to other players. Perhaps you might address this? Many thanks, MH --- On Wed, 30/11/11, David van Ooijen wrote: From: David van Ooijen Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 To: "Baroque Lute List (E-mail)" Date: Wednesday, 30 November, 2011, 14:07

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392

2011-11-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 To: "David van Ooijen" Date: Wednesday, 30 November, 2011, 13:46 Thank you for this. I think the same general query applies to modern players too - what evidence have you for your assertio

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392

2011-11-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Jonas, My message was a reply to an earlier one from David Van Oijan not from you! Best wishes Martyn --- On Wed, 30/11/11, Jonas Larsson wrote: From: Jonas Larsson Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 To: "Martyn Hodgson" Cc: "Ba

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392

2011-11-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 To: "David van Ooijen" Date: Wednesday, 30 November, 2011, 10:18 Thank you for this. So, if I understand you right, the early lute players could all transpose tablature on sight - have you an

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392

2011-11-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
first etc. regards Martyn --- On Wed, 30/11/11, William Samson wrote: From: William Samson Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 To: "Martyn Hodgson" Cc: "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Wednesday, 30 November, 2011, 8:35 I sometimes wo

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392

2011-11-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
ursed with 'perfect' (modern) pitch.. Martyn --- On Tue, 29/11/11, Anthony Hind wrote: From: Anthony Hind Subject: Re : [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 To: "Martyn Hodgson" Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 12:11 I was rather thinking of a sing

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392

2011-11-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Anthony, Unless outside their range, won't singers simply transpose to fit with the key/pitch of the accompaniment rather than the band having to change instruments? regards Martyn --- On Tue, 29/11/11, Anthony Hind wrote: From: Anthony Hind Subject: [BARO

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Angelique music?

2011-11-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Baines has good photos of some instruments (looks a bit like a late theorboed German lute). Its tablature looks like conventional lute tablature of the period with, of course, extra basses. MH --- On Sat, 5/11/11, Stuart Walsh wrote: From: Stuart Walsh Subject: [B

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D# Minor Suite: fretting implications

2011-11-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
For true intonation the size of a chromatic semitone is different to a diatonic semitone: so that, for example, the interval C# to D is larger than Db to D. Advocates of unequal temperament fretting on the lute will therefore presumably need to decide which key they are in..

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Rob, The (single) basses of theorbos (and archlutes) are generally much closer than even 12mm - some extant are less than 10mm! - and one is able to navigate these. I suspect habit lays down neural pathways in the brain which enable us to change from one instrument to another

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
rally in the mid 140s. Perhaps reflecting local tastes? - but too small a sample to draw any clear conclusions. Martyn --- On Tue, 4/10/11, William Samson wrote: From: William Samson Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele To: "Martyn Hodgson" , "

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Infidele

2011-10-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Rob, It is a stretch but I do think the low A (ie 13th) is meant: the BL MS is very clear and there are no signs of an a on the 6th course being altered to a 6 (as we sometimes find elsewhere). I think there are two factors here: 1. Clearly much depends on how one dispose

[BAROQUE-LUTE] correction to Re: Further to: PS to Re: v Radolt's lutes again

2011-09-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
cornet-ton but sounding bflat'' at tief-cammerton - or to look at it another way from a lute perspective: the first (very small) lute plays a Dm chord at cornet-ton but sounding Gm at tief-cammerton.' MH --- On Sun, 25/9/11, Martyn Hodgson wrote: From: Martyn H

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Further to: PS to Re: v Radolt's lutes again

2011-09-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
r Pearcy wrote: From: Christopher Pearcy Subject: RE: Further to: PS to Fw: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: v Radolt's lutes again To: "Martyn Hodgson" , "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" , "lute.cor...@sunrise.ch" Date: Saturday, 24 September,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] PS to Re: v Radolt's lutes again

2011-09-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
For f'' read f' . MH --- On Sat, 24/9/11, Martyn Hodgson wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: v Radolt's lutes again To: "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" , "lute.cor...@sunrise.ch" , "

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: v Radolt's lutes again

2011-09-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
strument the usual advice might be best: tune it so that the first course is as close to breaking as practical (ie without breaking too frequently). MH .--- On Fri, 23/9/11, Christopher Pearcy wrote: From: Christopher Pearcy Subject: RE: [BAROQUE-LUTE] v Radolt's lut

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: v Radolt's lutes again

2011-09-23 Thread Martyn Hodgson
See the paper by Bill Samson and myself (FoMRHI Comm 737 - available from the FoMRHI archives) about Von Radolt's instructions. Regarding the sizes of the lutes, the instructions suggest various sizes of 11 course lutes lute ranging from approx 54cm string length (Radolt's very sma

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: La belle / O stelle homicide

2011-08-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Mathias, When you say the lute was tuned in A (Old tuning), I think you may mean that it looks to be so if we take the vocal part staff notation as indicating a particular fixed pitch. There's enough evidence to suppose that in many domestic contexts the voice accomodated to t

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
11, howard posner wrote: From: howard posner Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo To: "Lute Dmth" , "baroque Lutelist" Date: Thursday, 11 August, 2011, 15:39 On Aug 11, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: > this > ma

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
folios of music for solo theorbo. Thus a theorbo in nominal D, as you seem to advocate, isn't specified for this solo music. MH From: Taco Walstra Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo To: "Martyn Hodgson" , "'baroque Lutelist'"

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo To: "Taco Walstra" Date: Thursday, 11 August, 2011, 11:16 There are non-English sources which describe theorbos with only the first course an octave down - see the late Bob Spenc

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Much depends on your technique and whether you play close to the bridge (as the Old Ones generally seemed to have done) or up to the rose. However whatever tension you decide upon, with such a small instrument why don't you follow historical practice and only lower the first course

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Odp: Re: another portrait of S.L. Weiss?

2011-07-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
p: Re: another portrait of S.L. Weiss? To: "Martyn Hodgson" Cc: "BAROQUE-LUTE" Date: Monday, 11 July, 2011, 9:56 Interesting point, Martyn. I don't have the picture to hand. How many strings or tuning pegs are shown? I still think the four-string gal

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Odp: Re: another portrait of S.L. Weiss?

2011-07-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Good point Rob, but, if we're thinking of one of the pictures, I recall it seems to show a large lute with a single neck. Whilst this could, of course, be the engraver's own fancy it might suggest the performer is playing a gallichon (large continuo type).. Mar

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss concerto

2011-07-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
might have expected to hear... MH --- On Sat, 2/7/11, David van Ooijen wrote: From: David van Ooijen Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss concerto To: "baroque lute list" Date: Saturday, 2 July, 2011, 8:38 On 2 July 2011 09:07, Martyn Hodgson <[1]ho

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss concerto

2011-07-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I'm particularly impressed how the basses of the lute overshadow the cello in the tuttis... MH --- On Sat, 2/7/11, Ed Durbrow wrote: From: Ed Durbrow Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss concerto To: "Daniel Shoskes" , "baroque lute list" Date: Saturday,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Top luthiers of 11-courser?

2011-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
assume any conformity. Incidentally, 68 +/- 2cm is a range of 66 to 70cm. MH --- On Tue, 31/5/11, David R wrote: From: David R Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Top luthiers of 11-courser? To: "Martyn Hodgson" Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: T

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Top luthiers of 11-courser?

2011-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
luthiers of 11-courser? To: "Martyn Hodgson" Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 31 May, 2011, 16:51 On May 31, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: >Also see my correspondance with Bailes in recent issues of Lute News on >the si

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Top luthiers of 11-courser?

2011-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
) recently converted to an 11 course lute with a string length around 76cm on a CD of French lute music from around 1670, he conceded that 'As Martyn Hodgson quite rightly points out in his letter in the last issue of Lute News (No 94), a lute the size of the Wenger should not fin

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc

2011-03-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Friday, 25 March, 2011, 0:18 I think Christopher makes some interesting points. I'll comment below. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Wilke" <[1][1]chriswi...@yahoo.com> To: "Martyn Hodgson" <[2][2]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk&

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc

2011-03-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
> From: Edward Martin <[1]e...@gamutstrings.com><= br /> > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc &g= t; To: "Martyn Hodgson" <[2]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>, "Baroque lute Dm= th" > <[3]baroque-lute@

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc

2011-03-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
ct: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc To: "Martyn Hodgson" , "Baroque lute Dmth" Date: Wednesday, 23 March, 2011, 22:29 Dear Martyn and all, I had some correspondence with Tim Crawford 15 years ago, and I was asking him about the notes

[BAROQUE-LUTE] PS to: Jacques de Saint-Luc

2011-03-23 Thread Martyn Hodgson
e speculation of two individuals with the same, or similar,names. The players are Jacques Vandeville oboe and Daniel Fournier lute (and theorbo!). MH --- On Wed, 23/3/11, Martyn Hodgson wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson Subject: Jacques de Saint-Luc To: "Baroque lute Dmth"

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques de Saint-Luc

2011-03-23 Thread Martyn Hodgson
The dates of this composer are generally given as 1616 - 1710 which seems a phenomenal life span for the time and even more so when his extant lute works seem to be in the style of the early decades of the 18th century (even down to fashionable doubling of the top and bottom line b

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Other de Gallots....

2011-03-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Indeed Monica. Do we know if Henri Francois de G was Gallot d'Angleterre or is this just my febrile speculation? MH --- On Sun, 20/3/11, Monica Hall wrote: From: Monica Hall Subject: [LUTE] Re: Other de Gallots To: "Martyn Hodgson"

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: polonaises 'per il Gallichona'

2011-01-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--0-1146046691-1296292639=:55291 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Further to my last, I thought you both might like to see an example from the collection 'Tre Serenata / Per il Gallichona'  Dresden 2701.   Mandora/gallichon in gu

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: polonaises

2011-01-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Quite a lot for mandora - if you count this as a 'lute' MH --- On Sat, 29/1/11, Roman Turovsky wrote: From: Roman Turovsky Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] polonaises To: "BAROQUE-LUTE" Date: Saturday, 29 January, 2011, 5:25 A question to the Collective Wisdom: Wha

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700

2010-11-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
No attachments --- On Tue, 30/11/10, ro...@rolfhamre.com wrote: From: ro...@rolfhamre.com Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700 To: l...@manassero.net, tade...@mac.com Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 30 November, 201

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss duets for lute and harpsichord

2010-11-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I have a copy of the Salzburg Lautencodex Ms III 25 which contains these Weiss works (mostly for liutho, violino and basso but only the lute tablature survives). Other composers include: Meckh, Block(Bloch), Lauf(f)ensteiner, Bohr. I have no evidence that the Weiss pieces in this

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Wenzel von Radolt AND recording errors

2010-11-09 Thread Martyn Hodgson
ugh I > >>> > find the violin to be a bit too forward > in the > >>> recorded mix. They > >>> > definitely did not follow Radolt's > explicit > >>> instruction that "the > >>> > soprano part th

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Wenzel von Radolt

2010-11-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
osers' works at the time. MH --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Christopher Wilke wrote: From: Christopher Wilke Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Wenzel von Radolt To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, "Edward Martin" , "Martyn Hodgson" , "Bernd Haegem

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