Re: OTC sand colic preventive

2015-01-22 Thread Carol Makosky
This message is from: Carol Makosky We are not that desperate yet. Fresh caught pan fish, but I have to omit we will pick up a fresh road killed deer on occasion if not too badly destroyed & the right time of the year. On 1/22/15, 7:43 AM, Steve McIlree wrote: This message is from: Steve M

Re: OTC sand colic preventive

2015-01-22 Thread Steve McIlree
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Carol Makosky wrote my husband is about to leave for the morning to pull our supper out of a 30 some inch deep hole & I have the frying pan all ready ​ Fried gopher, AGAIN? ; >)​ ​ -- Steve It is the mark of an educa

RE: OTC sand colic preventive

2015-01-22 Thread Tammy Hooper
This message is from: "Tammy Hooper" Even though we are in the mountains there is sand everywhere in AZ. When we first moved here with our two Fjords from the Pacific Northwest I have learned to make things safer. Like mentioned about the orange Metamucil mix I buy a supplement called psyllium

OTC sand colic preventive

2015-01-22 Thread Carol Makosky
This message is from: Carol Makosky Hi, I saved this from the "List" a few years ago since we too live in sand country. Try Orange Sugar Free Metamucil or the cheaper version Equate from Wally World. 1/4 cup twice per day mixed dry in his food and provide plenty of fresh water for drinking.

Re: Mineral Oil/Fall Colic

2011-09-20 Thread Robin Churchill
rning. > From: rjrfj...@verizon.net > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Subject: Re: Mineral Oil > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:32:26 -0700 > > This message is from: "Jo Wilgus" > > > > Did the Vet say what the cause of the colics are?  Does he colic at t

RE: Mineral Oil/Fall Colic

2011-09-19 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: Karen McCarthy Jo, My old guy Sven 127-B was one who exhibited a 'fall colic pattern'. He passed away at age 28 1/2 in Nov 2006 - of severe colic. The last 5 years of his life he was on a ration of TDI-10 and timothy pellets made into a mush 2 x a day. He was i

Colic advice

2008-06-13 Thread Sarah Clarke
This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am seconding the advice to get her moving.  Not intense, but the horse gut wants the horse to walk around to keep the gut contents moving.  In terms of colic risk factors a horse that can wander in it's enclosure it better o

Re: Colic advice/ beet pulp

2008-06-13 Thread KateSeidel
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been giving them a handful of beet pulp for about a year, just to mix their supplements into (per the advice of Beth Valentine, draft horse nutritional "expert". The vet suggested making it even wetter than it is (actually leaving it soupy rat

Re: [?? Probable Spam] Colic advice

2008-06-13 Thread Warren Stockwell
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > She has a week of reduced rations - but I neglected to ask the vet how long > I should wait before starting to exercise her again? > > Kate > with Joe and very thankfully, with Della I would think you want to keep her moving to keep t

Re: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Colic advice/ beet pulp

2008-06-13 Thread Warren Stockwell
This message is from: "Warren Stockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I totally agree I use beet pulp here and it is a bit of an inconvenience. but a lot less than standing with a sick horse waiting for the vet to come ( which takes them for ever )! It also makes the hay go farther. I use about 3 lbs. les

Re: Colic advice

2008-06-12 Thread Reena Giola
This message is from: "Reena Giola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am sorry to hear about Della but glad that it got sorted out and she is home doing better Reena and Gus -- This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday, Della Ree

Re: Colic advice

2008-06-12 Thread MorrisShadowMT
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Kate I feed very wet beet pulp year round. It is a great way to make sure that your horse gets more liquids in either hot or cold weather when they are more likely to drink less. Since I have done this for many years now. I have not had

Colic advice

2008-06-12 Thread KateSeidel
On Monday, Della Ree started to colic (our temps shot up to the 100's and apparently she stopped drinking water). She had a very hard large colon impaction and did not respond to oil, water and walking, so off we went to the equine hospital. Three days and many, many liters of IV fl

RE: sand colic prevention routine-Southern Cal.

2008-04-28 Thread Robin Churchill
s from: "Sharon" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>This message is from: Robin Churchill > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do any of you who > live in dry places have specific regimens that you > follow or that your vet > has advised for prevention of sand colic? >>

RE: sand colic prevention routine-Southern Cal.

2008-04-28 Thread Sharon
This message is from: "Sharon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>This message is from: Robin Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do any of you who live in dry places have specific regimens that you follow or that your vet has advised for prevention of sand colic? >> Hi, I l

Re: Prevention of sand colic?

2008-04-26 Thread revivant
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Robin, I have lived in the California desert with my Fjords for many years in a VERY sandy environment. I feed psyllium religiously to prevent sand colic. I have tried various kinds of psyllium products over the years, but have settled on a powdered

Prevention of sand colic?

2008-04-24 Thread Robin Churchill
This message is from: Robin Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do any of you who live in dry places have specific regimens that you follow or that your vet has advised for prevention of sand colic? In southwest Fl, winter is our dry season but we have had two summers with much less rainfal

RE: sand colic and psyllium ( from the Cherry Hill website)

2007-12-27 Thread Gail Russell
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All of our vets use this procedure for testing feces. They take a plastic exam glove (the transparent ones). They put a ball of feces in the glove, add water, and then tie off the glove at the "wrist end". Shake, and then look at the fing

RE: about colic

2007-02-22 Thread Rose or Murph
This message is from: "Rose or Murph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the info Steve. It was between 12-15 hours in to the colic when we had the tap done followed by euthanizing. In my heart I could tell it was the end because I knew this horse so well as he was not responding to

Re: about colic

2007-02-21 Thread Steve A White
s have its limitations. For example, early in the course of a colic episode there might not be any changes to the abdominal fluid yet, giving you a false sense that everything is ok. Or if you wait too long to look for changes to show up then you might be too late for surgery to help. The tap do

colic in winter/wood chewing

2007-02-21 Thread Beaver Dam Farm
e he proceeded to sire some of the most beautiful Fjords in America. -- Malcolm is now at another breeding farm in CA. The other serious incident we had was the imported yearling filly with the abscess that got into her spine. She had to be put down. I talked about this a week or so ago. As to colic

about colic

2007-02-19 Thread Rose or Murph
This message is from: "Rose or Murph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> About 10 years ago I had to euthanize my very wonderful appaloosa gelding due to colic. I was fortunate to get help right away, and know very quickly what my options were, resulting in less suffering for my horse. I have al

Re: the colic surgery expenses for the colt

2007-02-17 Thread FjordAmy
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/16/2007 3:19:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to suggest to the forum that ALL the donated money goes toward the vet bill for Catherine's colt, not just half. When I donate money for t he

Re: the colic surgery expenses for the colt

2007-02-16 Thread LCForward
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello to everyone on the forum, I would like to suggest to the forum that ALL the donated money goes toward the vet bill for Catherine's colt, not just half. When I donate money for t he colt's expenses, I would rather all my donation go to the vet

RE: posts on colic and insurance

2007-02-15 Thread Robin Churchill
This message is from: Robin Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I haven't had time to read everyone's posts this week but agree with the info about colic. Colic can be a bellyache or a surgical emergency and it is sometimes difficult to tell which. I had had Ooruk and Ulyssa at home

Re: animal losses and colic prevention

2007-02-15 Thread Genie Dethloff
This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Cheryl and I'm glad your dog made it and is happy even with a lost leg. As far as the Pfizer colic insurance goes, here is what you have to consider. If you plan to feed daily wormer anyway, then buying it through y

animal losses and colic prevention

2007-02-15 Thread CHERYL GARNICA
cked out; no problems with my 3. My vet is offering the Pfizzer colic program, which I turned down the prior year. After reading this, thinking of calling her back now to see if I could add it on to my preventive care plan. Question: the Pffizer plan covers colic only; wondering if mon

Anne's Colic post

2007-02-15 Thread
This message is from: "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have to agree with Anne Appleby's post about colic. Time is of the essence, and it can happen even with the very best of care. If I see a Fjord not eating and there is food available I immediately phone the vet, grabbing the ban

Colic colt

2007-02-14 Thread fjords
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, Please let me state that the ownership of this little guy is in my hands and he will not be going anywhere but back to our barn for a long time. It is the goal of Oregon Fjord Club to EDUCATE in this matter. OFC hopes that if the family

Paying for colic surgery

2007-02-14 Thread Robin Churchill
This message is from: Robin Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think that for a number of people putting out $10,000 unexpectedly for colic surgery would be difficult. However for a fairly reasonable yearly premium, surgical insurance that will cover usually $7500 to $10,000 depending on wh

Re: RE:Rough weekend / colic

2007-02-13 Thread jerrell friz
This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Catherine wrote, For new horse owners... Colic is something you want to prevent at all costs. ALL HORSE OWNERS Spend the money on good feed and good pa

RE:Rough weekend / colic

2007-02-13 Thread fjords
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For new horse owners... Colic is something you want to prevent at all costs. Spend the money on good feed and good pasture management, theses two things can help prevent colic and save you money in the long run. Horse insurance will help when a hor

Re: Aand Colic

2006-08-30 Thread Robin Churchill
y. Here is Florida, the soil is sandy and sand colic is a concern. I feed my fjords only a tiny amount of a low starch feed with timothy or orchard grass hay, sometimes supplemented with the local grass hay if any that is decent is available. YOu can try to find some hay that is good quality

Re: Sand Colic

2006-08-30 Thread Sarah Clarke
ry one, This message comes from Finland and asks for advice. I bought a 16 year old fjord gelding 6 months ago, who was terrible overweigh. I have tried to have him on diet with lots of exercise and a bit less hay but normal feed otherwise. A week ago he got a serious sand colic and I was advize

Aand Colic

2006-08-30 Thread Anne Salo
but normal feed otherwise. A week ago he got a serious sand colic and I was advized to have a muzzel on him untill winter time. It is still 3-4 months to winter even here in Finland and I am afraid my gelding will be really depressed by that time. Even now he only stands and looks around in his dry lo

colic

2005-07-18 Thread WHUPDDU
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MY mare coliced. on fathers day. We have had two colic surgery's since then. She seems okay now. He removed her colon on the second surgery because he said she had twice the amount of colon for a horse her size. He was surprised we have not had

re: winter colic

2005-01-18 Thread David McWethy
This message is from: "David McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good post, Brian or Ursula. I know you both have good horse common sense, so it could be either. This advice should be posted every year, to help be sure people are doing the best horse care, and preventable coli

Winter Colic

2005-01-17 Thread Ursula & Brian Jensen
increased chance of colic during cold weather. The horses will usually drink less water in a cold spell and can dehydrate to the point of colic. We have heated stock tanks and they still drink less when it is really cold. As it warms up you will notice their water consumption returns to a

Re: colic

2004-12-06 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Sandra, I am praying that Loki is OK. What dewormer did you use? One with the Praziquantel for tapes? Just wondering. It would be good to know. I would bet it has something to do with the wormer. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, our first

Re: colic

2004-12-05 Thread Tamara Rousso
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We're thinking of you & Loki, Sandra. Please keep us posted. Best wishes, Tamara Fallbrook CA On Sunday, December 5, 2004, at 07:08 PM, sandra church wrote: This message is from: "sandra church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi-many listers hav

colic

2004-12-05 Thread sandra church
This message is from: "sandra church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi-many listers have requested prayers for their fjords...now it's my turn.  Loki refused his "dinner" tonight so that was my first clue that something wasn't right.  So while my husband watched him, I ran to the house to call my vet & he w

Fw: Colic

2004-11-24 Thread Susan Felix
This message is from: "Susan Felix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: Susan Felix Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 5:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Colic You might want to try 1/2 cup of bran and lots of water and wheat germ oil. I have used t

RE: Sonny Colic

2004-11-24 Thread Carole Cox
November 24, 2004 1:08 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Sonny Colic This message is from: "Mark Knuth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have owned Sonny, 5 year old gelding, since June. He is typical of the Fjords as I've learned and lives to eat. I try to behave and not o

Sonny Colic

2004-11-24 Thread Mark Knuth
, but I am scared to death! I do not want him to suffer again. He had never had colic before so I must have done something. Too much Moorglo or the hay was moldy. Give me any advice you might have or any experience with this. I know I just have to not feed him too much for one thing. That s

winter colic

2004-01-30 Thread Philis B. Anderson
This message is from: "Philis B. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello everybody, A report from cold, windy, blowing a gale Grand Marais, Minnesota. Just wanted to say that we've had two horses in this area colic this winter. The reasonnot enough water intake. One o

Re: foal colic

2002-10-31 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peg there are so many old wives tales about alfalfa. Of course I would not feed rich food to a horse during a colic and I am not sure what you mean by "depressed". My big boy has always had "lie downs&quo

foal colic

2002-10-31 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Deb - I don't recall whether you have used a pro-biotic with your foal. It is marketed under many names, and is specifically for aiding digestion. The one we use is Dyna-Pro, and the first thing we do if we susp

Re: foal colic

2002-10-30 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alfalfa, good quality, has a slightly laxative effect. Lots of old wives (husbands)tales about alfalfa but I fed free choice to my thoroughbred mare before and after delivery of my huge Charley. He is now going on twenty three and has had it

Re: foal colic

2002-10-30 Thread Warren Stockwell
rta - Original Message - From: "Debbie Shade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: foal colic > This message is from: "Debbie Shade" <[EMAIL PRO

foal colic

2002-10-23 Thread GreenMeadowFarm1
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Debbie, Green Meadow has been in the Morgan breeding business for over twenty years now. A few years ago, I discussed a situation such as yours with a fellow Morgan breeder whose foal continued to colic. We found this filly to have encysted

Re: foal colic

2002-10-22 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debbie, It could be an adhesion of the small intestine. This is a result sometimes after colic surgery, especially with foals. This is when a piece of intestine will stick to another piece of intestine, an organ, or the body wall. When this scar forms

Re: foal colic

2002-10-22 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Deb, since he "eats well" could he be over loading a not too healthy system? Are there softer finer or special foods he could be on?Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563

foal colic

2002-10-22 Thread Debbie Shade
This message is from: "Debbie Shade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To anyone with any ideas, I'm looking for any suggestions, or sources of information for my non fjord foal whom continues to colic. A brief update: colic at 4 weeks- resolves after a week at clinic (they think it wa

Re: colt colic

2002-10-16 Thread Debbie Shade
This message is from: "Debbie Shade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, Thank you for the email. My colt is currently doing fine, its been 9 days without any problems. YEAH! The thing that keeps us going is he is the picture of health and very strong, and he has a fabulous mom. This is what I feel has

Re: Enteritis/colic

2001-03-05 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > just lost a horse with a colic they suspect was caused by a virus > and today one of her other horses is colicking with the same type of > symptoms. Misha, I don't know of any viral causes of colic. Plenty of bacterial causes though. I

Enteritis/colic

2001-03-05 Thread sfjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey does anyone remember a few weeks ago when we were talking about the geldings that died of a colic that was virally related. One of my firends just lost a horse with a colic they suspect was caused by a virus and today one of her other horses is

Re: Colic prevention ?

2001-01-01 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Steve, believe it or not even though there are not answers that very fact should ease some of our guilt re the horses we have lost. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]

Colic prevention ?

2001-01-01 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many people have talked about colic "prevention" lately (myself included), but maybe we should use the term "risk reduction" instead. It seems that some of you people are surprised when your horse colics and you have been doing

Re: Colic, feeding, worming, etc.

2000-12-31 Thread Reena
This message is from: "Reena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Nancy Hotovy" Without a necropsy it is impossible to be positive about what really happened to your horse - however sometimes necropsy's done (even at a university) do not tell why. It is very frustrating but true. To all: I too, went

Colic, feeding, worming, etc.

2000-12-31 Thread Nancy Hotovy
This message is from: Nancy Hotovy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello - I just hung up from talking to Lisa Pedersen a few hours ago and she convinced me to tell the following story. I promise to keep it short. Our stallion, Anvil's Torbjorn had colic surgery in 1991. I was in the barn work

Re: Burt & Colic

2000-12-29 Thread bsimonson
have poured over countless articles and journals reading about what could have potentially been the cause. I have a Horseman's Vet Encyclopedia and have been reading through it like mad. When I read through the section on shock and the section on colic, I was astounded to see how the symptom

Re: Saddles and heat bumps and colic

2000-12-19 Thread Ralph Delgado
This message is from: "Ralph Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you guys should look into synergist saddles. i got one and both i and my horses loveit! they fit it to your horse. denise delgado _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explo

Colic

2000-12-17 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Ann glad to see you back for awhile. Gives me a chance to ask you why you have not videos of your work with Wez? Or have you? That lovely shoulder in canter for instance. My big Charley used to have "lie downs" and by the time the Vet wo

Re: Saddles and heat bumps and colic

2000-12-16 Thread Don & Jane Brackett
This message is from: Don & Jane Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ortho flex saddles. Yes they do fit the Fjords well if the trees are made by ortho flex. I found that some of the english saddles (UK series) do not fit like the others. I have an endurance ortho flex that fits alot like the western

Re: Saddles and heat bumps and colic

2000-12-16 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, Karen, I do like the Ortho-Felx, but they aren't perfect either! If you do find an older used one, be careful that the flexible panels aren't too long for your fjord's back. They now have shortened their panels, really improved them. You

Re: Saddles and heat bumps and colic

2000-12-15 Thread Karen McCarthy
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Sue, It sounds to me, like your saddle is too narrow for the horse. Fitting saddles to Fjords is a challenge. The best fit that I have been able to find is an Orthoflex saddle. Yes, Alis

Re: Saddles and heat bumps and colic

2000-12-15 Thread Alison Bakken
This message is from: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Sue, It sounds to me, like your saddle is too narrow for the horse. Fitting saddles to Fjords is a challenge. The best fit that I have been able to find is an Orthflex saddle. Alison Bakken in deep freeze Alberta

Re: Saddles and heat bumps and colic

2000-12-13 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Where are these white patches located? Obviously there was more pressure at these points. if it was just the pad there would be a larger area of white if pressure was even under the saddle. While the plastic bubble "air ride' thing in the PC

Saddles and heat bumps and colic

2000-12-13 Thread Sue Harrison
suggestions? Re storms recent bout with colic it turns out he had worms. We had wormed in August but apparently he was reinfested. This time we used Eqvalen as opposed to Strongid T. Apparently worms and cold water do not mix. We are having another stool sample tested in January. Hope we can kee

Re: colic

2000-11-26 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Check the archives for lots of information and discussions of colic http://www.eScribe.com/pets/fjordhorse/ The user name is again "fjordhorse" and the password is again "fjords_rule". The problem with cold water

Re: colic

2000-09-12 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The best thing is before anything is done (surgery or euth.) > insurance > company. I've done this even after midnight sometimes (they have > pagers). That way they don't think you're up to something. > I realized after I sent this message that I left

Re: colic and insurance

2000-09-12 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I know many vets will not agree with this, but the horses that I > have > experience with that had been on the Strongid C daily program came > in my barn > all alike: dull coat with long hair, poor tone and blood and fecal > tests that > indicated a

Re: colic

2000-09-12 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gail, once a horse has a history of colic, no matter how light,most > insurance companies will not insure. That hasn't been my experience. I think it depends on how carefully your vet words it on the form. I know they are definitely af

Re: colic and insurance

2000-09-12 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debby, Next to pinworms, bots are the least of your worries. I wouldn't worry to much about them. You are right about not deworming thru the winter. Parasite activity is low at this time. Of course it depends on the winter. It was mild here last year.

Re: colic

2000-09-12 Thread whitedvm
> Then the > company yanked the insurance (or refused to renew..not sure) and she > colicked and died. Yes, this can happen depending on the cause of the colic. But I have had clients get the insurance renewed after colic surgery too. Just depends on the company I guess > >

Re: colic and insurance

2000-09-12 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily strongid with twice yearly ivermectin for > bots > is what the Strongid company reccommends. > > What do you think, Dr. Steve? > Yes, I think this is the best way. Steve White Waterloo, NE

Re: colic

2000-09-12 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can't put your horse > down > without forfeiting, they don't care if your horse suffers, Most of the adjusters I've worked with are not that heartless. If the vet feels that the horse is suffering, they can go ahead and euthanize. The best thing is

Re: colic and insurance

2000-09-12 Thread Debby Stai
This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is one of the reasons I went ahead and took my guys off of the daily wormer, give their insides time off from day after day of internal insecticide. I'd been told before that worming once a month with Ivermectin, granted bots are season

Re: colic and insurance

2000-09-12 Thread OLSENELAIN
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know many vets will not agree with this, but the horses that I have experience with that had been on the Strongid C daily program came in my barn all alike: dull coat with long hair, poor tone and blood and fecal tests that indicated a WORM LOAD despite

Re: colic and insurance

2000-09-12 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I purchase liquid EQVALAN (Ivervectin) from my vet in a 100 ml bottle which would be ten doses. I think worming with ivermection MONTHLY might not be such a good thing...alternating with Strongid paste every 6-8 weeks might be a better idea.

Re: colic

2000-09-12 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So, mortality insurance is a lousy deal if the horse doesn't die on the first round It would be interesting to know how often this happens. Must be a similar danger with founder. When I get some time I may look into it, but the "cons" ar

Re: colic

2000-09-12 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes they can refuse to reinsure when the premium is due if you report colic. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores

Re: colic and insurance

2000-09-12 Thread Debby Stai
This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Its a liquid ivermectin for horses, an approximate ten dose vial, that you just squirt in their mouths, doesn't take much, doesn't taste bad, yes, I did taste it. We have a QH whos terrible about putting stuff in his mouth, except apples and tr

Re: colic

2000-09-12 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:49 AM 9/12/2000 -0700, you wrote: >This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Gail, once a horse has a history of colic, no matter how light,most >insurance companies will not insure.

Re: colic and insurance

2000-09-12 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thank goodness for the tendose liquid wormer for horses from >the vet or the cost would be terrible. What is that? Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

colic and insurance

2000-09-12 Thread Debby Stai
have been dosing with Ivermectin monthly since we've been here, thank goodness for the tendose liquid wormer for horses from the vet or the cost would be terrible. Gail mentioned the colic insurance that goes along with feeding the daily wormer which is a really good point. If you buy mortality

Re: colic

2000-09-12 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gail, once a horse has a history of colic, no matter how light,most insurance companies will not insure. Surgery for my Howdie was estimated at $1800 if he died afterwards and $6000 up if he survived. I am glad you did t

Re: colic

2000-09-12 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /steve wrote: It's just a matter of figuring out what's causing >the pain and treating it accordingly (which isn't always easy). > Got home and looked up colic and digestive tract anatomy in my "Veterinary

Re: colic

2000-09-12 Thread finally r farm
This message is from: "finally r farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, Steve...you asked about opinions and stories about colic.. A pet peeve of mine is that when there is anything wrong with a horse between the front legs and the hind legs it is called colic! We all know that t

Re: colic

2000-09-11 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeri, > A pet > peeve of mine is that when there is anything wrong with a horse > between the > front legs and the hind legs it is called colic! We all know that > there is > far more going than just one thing - Colic. Colic is just

Re: another colic theory

2000-09-10 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Annette, My huge Trakehner has what I call "lying down spells" and the Vet would get exasperated with me because by the time I discovered Charlie and the Vet got here Charley would be up eating. I got so I could sense one of these coming on b

another colic theory

2000-09-10 Thread Annette Johnson
This message is from: "Annette Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We have an older quarter horse mare who is prone to colic. One common denominator we've found in her episodes is a sudden drop in barometric pressure. On a Colorado winter day, the drop is easy to notice because t

Re: Colic

2000-09-08 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nancy, I, too, see the colics come in spurts. I won't have one for a couple of weeks, then boom several in a row. After a cold spell, I will start to see some too. Like you said, I think they get a little chill and don't drink enough water. In the sprin

Re: Colic: TTeam methods

2000-09-07 Thread Karen McCarthy
to the ear and belly stuff, he kind of just ignores it. The others really relax though. My Trakehner gelding turns into jello. I have been through 2 really strong bouts of colic w/ 2 different horses. Got w/ my vet ASAP, and both times, they said to keep the horse as relaxed as possible

Colic

2000-09-07 Thread Nancy Hotovy
This message is from: Nancy Hotovy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve - Have been reading all the colic info recently. I work for a Veterinary clinic that does many colic surgeries and although I am NOT a veterinarian, I observe and help out. What causes colic is very much debated at our clini

Re: Colic: things to do while waiting for the vet

2000-09-07 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> I have also >> gotten rid >> of headaches on myself by rubbing my ears, and working the tips. > >Working the tips? Jean, I'm envisioning you having ears like Spock on >Star Trek. Well, Spock always was my hero on Star Trek..I think I ha

Re: Colic: things to do while waiting for the vet

2000-09-07 Thread whitedvm
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1. VITAL SIGNS: take temperature, pulse and respiration. Note gum > color This brings up a good point. Do these things before your horse gets sick on different occasions. That way you know what the horses normal heart rate, respiration, temperature, an

Colic and the frustration it brings...

2000-09-07 Thread Ingrid Ivic
ry not to beat yourself up too much. I've been in this situation before, it happend years ago and it still feels pretty awful some days. The "could-have's and should-have's" that come to mind are many. Good to let the bad feelings out...I cried buckets here. Dealing wi

Colic: things to do while waiting for the vet

2000-09-07 Thread Jean Ernest
roach the flank, work gently because this area is often tight and distended in colic. usually after about four passes from elbow to flank, gas will be released. REPEAT THESE STEPS UNTIL YOUR VET ARRIVES OR UNTIL SIGNS OF DISCOMFORT ARE RELIEVED. TT.E.A.M. WORK ON THE EARS IS USEFULL FOR ALL ILL

Re: colic

2000-09-07 Thread J20038
after i used it. She had colic before i used it. Linda

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