[VIHUELA] Re: Mersenne reference

2020-02-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
[1]MERHU2_5_TEXT MERHU2_5_TEXT On Wednesday, 5 February 2020, 10:02:49 GMT, Monica Hall wrote: I just wondered whether any kind soul familiar with Mersenne's monumental work could Identify which Book/Chapter/page number in Harmonie universelle. the following quote

[VIHUELA] Re: Stradivarius sstringing instructions

2019-06-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
there were no bourdons on the 4th and 5th courses. The 4th and 5th courses were re-entrant with high octave strings - instead of being aA d'd they were tuned a'a d" d'. This came as rather a surprise to me. As ever Monica > On 26 June 2019 at 09:10 Martyn Hodgson <[1]hodg

[VIHUELA] Re: Stradivarius sstringing instructions

2019-06-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica, Have a look at FoMRHI Comm 663 (Bulletin 41, October 1985) in which I report on two early sources of recorded violin string diameters (Tartini's and Riccati's) and their application to Strad's instructions for the chitarra tiorbata. Here's the link

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee

2019-06-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Why are the first five open (unstopped) basses thought to be at the lower octave? - is the source absolutely clear and wholly unambiguous about this (I've not yet seen the EM article myself)? Leaving aside the length of the long basses required to extend the range down to contrabass

[VIHUELA] Re: Temperaments & Fretting on Early Guitars

2019-05-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Edward, The problem with employing an unequal temperament on the five course guitar is the prevalence of sliding chord shapes employed on every fret in much of the extant repertoire - ie Alfabeto. This has also been pointed out in previous communications and papers. M.H.

[VIHUELA] Re: London visit

2019-04-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Jocelyn, Good that you're coming over next month. I don't usually attend Lute Soc meetings (too far from the Yorkshire Dales for a grand day out!) but I'll try to make that on 11th May. regards, Martyn On Tuesday, 2 April 2019, 02:34:22 BST, Nelson, Jocelyn wrote:

[VIHUELA] Early six course Spanish guitaRe: fretting and stringing

2019-01-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
string guitars and there's some evidence to support the use of overwound on the lowest courses of the six course Spanish instrument. Is there any evidence for the use of just plain (perhaps loaded) gut strings on the fourth and fifth courses of these instruments? Martyn Hodgson

[VIHUELA] Early six course Spanish guitaRe: fretting and stringing

2019-01-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
string guitars and there's some evidence to support the use of overwound on the lowest courses of the six course Spanish instrument. Is there any evidence for the use of just plain (perhaps loaded) gut strings on the fourth and fifth courses of these instruments? Martyn Hodgson

[VIHUELA] Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - life after death....

2018-02-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
uot;mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> To: VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Cc: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Monday, 12 February 2018, 21:44 Subject: MS CZ- Bm D 189 - the Last Post Dear Martyn I am sorry to have denied you

[VIHUELA] Re: Regarding: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - weathering the storm!

2018-02-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
sage you see fit to send. I may query this with Wayne if you persist. As ever Monica == From: Martyn Hodgson <[5]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: "[6]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <[7]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>;

[VIHUELA] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - a fresh tack! 2

2018-02-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; Baroque Lute List <baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2018, 10:07 Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (

[VIHUELA] Re: Further to Re: Moravsky MS (CZ. Brno D 189) - a fresh tack! 2

2018-02-09 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Baroque Lute List <baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Friday, 9 February 2018, 14:26 Subject: Fu

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack! 2

2018-01-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
outh.edu" <mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Cc: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Monday, 29 January 2018, 20:28 Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack! Obviously it will take me some ti

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky MS (CZ Brno D189) - a fresh tack!

2018-01-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Baroque Lute List <baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, 29 January 2018, 17:01

[VIHUELA] Re: Even more to yet moRe: re. Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Baroque Lute List <baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Sunday, 14 January 2018, 16:

[VIHUELA] Re: Moravsky Manuscript AND five course guitar stringing

2018-01-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; "dshos...@mac.com" <dshos...@mac.com> Cc: VihuelaList <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Baroque Lute Lis

[VIHUELA] Re: Notation software recommendations

2017-07-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Jocelyn, One of the difficulties I personally find with these typesetting softwares is the length of time it takes to actually input the music (either staff notation or tablature), and I generally simply write out (staff notation) parts for the ensemble - often full/short

[VIHUELA] Re: Vihuela technique: dos dedos and dedillo

2017-07-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
, as far as I can see, the Old Ones tell us little of the minutae of the dedillo stroke. MH __ From: Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr> To: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc:

[VIHUELA] Vihuela technique: dos dedos and dedillo

2017-07-09 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Reading the English language summary (in Lute News 117) of the early journals of the Sociedad de la Vihuela 'Hispanica Lyra', I was again struck by the different right hand plucking techniques evidently reasonably common and widespread in sixteenth century Spain. Principally the

[VIHUELA] Re: Diesel

2016-10-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Stuart, There appears to be no contemporaneous evidence of precisely how Diesel strung his guitar. From consideration of the music, voice leading, period of composition etc, I believe Diesel used a mandora like stringing - ie octaves on the fourth and fifths but with the low bass

[VIHUELA] Re: Diesel

2016-10-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Sorry, I sent you the full search link - here is the direct link [1]Prinsesse Charlotte Amalies nodesamling Prinsesse Charlotte Amalies nodesamling Martyn - Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: Eduard Agullo &

[VIHUELA] Re: Diesel

2016-10-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Eduard, Thanks for this: my ancient photocopies (half size!) have become increasingly difficult to read so this is welcome. A useful summary of these books was presented by David Lyons' paper in the 1975 JLSA ' Nathanael Diesel, guitar tutor to a royal lady'. The lady being

[VIHUELA] Re: Donald Gill's arrangements for 4-course guitaRe: Corrente by Foscarini

2016-05-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
There are more of such in Donald's recent kind donation to the Lute Soc. He was v keen on transcribing stuff for small guitars and mandores. Jil Segerman has just completed an inventory rgds M __ From: WALSH

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit

2014-06-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Martyn Hodgson Verzonden: woensdag 25 juni 2014 10:59 Aan: Monica Hall; Braig, Eugene CC: Vihuelalist Onderwerp: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit Well yes... though if papers are presented, but not disseminated

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit

2014-06-24 Thread Martyn Hodgson
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[4][4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens WALSH STUART Verzonden: dinsdag 24 juni 2014 11:54 Aan: Martyn Hodgson; Vihuela Dmth Onderwerp: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit On 24/06/2014 09:25, Martyn Hodgson wrote: A A - Forwarded

[VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2

2014-05-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Yes it is interesting. But it's surely not a 'very large' instrument: in fact, it looks relatively smaller than the picture of a vihuela played by Orpheus in Milan's collection. Perhaps you mean it's bigger than most vihuelas played nowadays - but isn't that perhaps because of a

[VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2

2014-05-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
_may_ be vihuelas too). Martyn __ From: Braig, Eugene brai...@osu.edu To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, 13 May

[VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2

2014-05-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Martyn Hodgson Verzonden: dinsdag 13 mei 2014 14:27 Aan: Lex Eisenhardt; 'Vihuelalist' Onderwerp: [VIHUELA] Re: Lorimer's bibliography? (ISBN 0-9618527-1-2 I agree with you about sizes of 5 course guitars but not about your preferred tuning for de Murcia's solo music: in my view

[VIHUELA] Re: Matteis

2013-11-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
To: 'Martyn Hodgson' hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; 'Monica Hall' mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; 'WALSH STUART' s.wa...@ntlworld.com Cc: 'Vihuelalist' vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 16:51 Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Matteis For an on-line article by Roland Jackson, about all sorts

[VIHUELA] Re: Matteis

2013-11-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- Original Message - From: [1]Martyn Hodgson To: [2]Monica Hall Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Matteis Page no in 1682 original plse

[VIHUELA] Re: Matheo Bezon

2013-06-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thanks Monica, Interesting - but even more so if I could open the 'pictures' which give the various illustrations and examples. I've left clicked on the boxes and clicked 'open picture' but nothing. Any thoughts regards Martyn From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk

[VIHUELA] Re: Pepys manuscripts

2013-05-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
---1019788788-1762414116-1369227185=:13167 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Monica,   Somwhere I have a photocopy of the Morelli songs from  the Cambridge Ms.  (Magdalen College, Pepys Library (Cmc) MS 2803 - Songs, arranged for bass

[VIHUELA] Re: Instrumental music with alfabeto

2013-05-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Sonata di Chittarra, e Violino, con il suo Basso Continuo (from Granata Soavi Concenti... 1659) - mixed tablature guitar ie with alfabeto as well as 'Italian' tablature notation And, of course, the numerous books of alfabeto settings of known tunes (eg Ricci Scuola d'intavolatura,

[VIHUELA] Re: Early romantic guitaRe: string height

2013-04-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
...@gmail.com wrote: From: Azalais azal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Early romantic guitaRe: string height To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Saturday, 20 April, 2013, 19:46 It varies by instrument. On some I have gut frets and on some metal

[VIHUELA] Re: Early romantic guitaRe: string height

2013-04-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
...@gmail.com wrote: From: Azalais azal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Early romantic guitaRe: string height To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Saturday, 20 April, 2013, 19:46 It varies by instrument. On some I have gut frets and on some metal

[VIHUELA] Early romantic guitaRe: string height

2013-04-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I'd be grateful if players of the early six string guitar (say, 1800 - 1830) could let me know what string height they find best on the instrument. To be specific: by string height I mean the distance required to depress the string to the fingerboard (not to the top of the fret -

[VIHUELA] Re: Fuenllana

2013-01-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Well, Orphenica Lyra is 1554 and I'd not think he'd be much younger than around 30 for such a prestigious (and large - ie expensive) publication. So I'd put his date of birth around 1520. I suspect the c 1500 - 1579 means that 1500 is a guess but 1579 is evidenced. 1579 also fits

[VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar?

2012-12-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
...@gmail.com wrote: From: Simen Omang donoma...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: EugeneBraig brai...@osu.edu, Vihuela Dmth vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday, 3 December

[VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar?

2012-11-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Eugene, I also find Strizich more complicated than necessary and really only useful for academics interested in the period guitar who don't actually play the instrument - are there any? And I agree with what you're saying below: ie to transcribe the tablature into staff

[VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar?

2012-11-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar? To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Date: Thursday, 22 November, 2012, 15:17 Dear Monica, I think you've misunderstood my point about fellow

[VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar?

2012-11-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Stuart, As mentioned in our recent exchange on a Losy sarabande: these French chaconnes are good examples of the sort of idiomatic arrangement to be expected from a decent professional musician at the time. Judging from 5 course guitar music in some (amateur?) compiled MSs

[VIHUELA] Re: Losy (Logi) sarabande?

2012-11-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Losy (Logi) sarabande? To: WALSH STUART s.wa...@ntlworld.com Date: Wednesday, 7 November, 2012, 8:51 Dear Stuart, I'm not suggesting that these Losy guitar pieces were originally composed

[VIHUELA] Re: Losy (Logi) sarabande?

2012-11-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: From: WALSH STUART s.wa...@ntlworld.com Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Losy (Logi) sarabande? To: Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com Cc: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk, Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 6

[VIHUELA] Re: Losy (Logi) sarabande?

2012-11-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
...@yahoo.com Cc: Martyn Hodgson [3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; Monica Hall [4]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk; Vihuelalist [5]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 9:20 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Losy (Logi) sarabande? No, not to be confused with a tiny mandore. Of course it's

[VIHUELA] Losy Rondeau

2012-11-07 Thread Martyn Hodgson
instruments. The lute has a few extra low basses but both versions are fairly close. It fits on both instruments very well ('tho it's an easy piece technically anyway) so no conclusion about which version came first are obvious.. Martyn --- On Tue, 6/11/12, Martyn Hodgson

[VIHUELA] Re: Losy (Logi) sarabande?

2012-11-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Losy (Logi) sarabande? To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 6 November, 2012, 13:19 Well - I hadn't thought

[VIHUELA] Re: G chord on Baroque Guitar

2012-09-14 Thread Martyn Hodgson
September 2012 17:04, Martyn Hodgson [1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: To reduce to absurdity: if we eliminate, say, all thirds from a chord 'Absurdity' another word for 'power chords' or for the music in which these chords commonly are used? ;-) David - not waiting

[VIHUELA] Re: G chord on Baroque Guitar

2012-09-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Message - From: RALPH MAIER To: Monica Hall Cc: Martyn Hodgson ; Vihuelalist Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: G chord on Baroque Guitar Interesting thread. Just a thought, and I'm obviously

[VIHUELA] Re: G chord on Baroque Guitar

2012-09-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
This is also a very good and practical point. M --- On Mon, 10/9/12, Natasha Miles natasha.mi...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: From: Natasha Miles natasha.mi...@hotmail.co.uk Subject: RE: [VIHUELA] Re: G chord on Baroque Guitar To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk

[VIHUELA] Re: G chord on Baroque Guitar

2012-09-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica, When you write 'The point is that the alfabeto chords (and other chords) are arranged in the way that most conveniently fits them on to the guitar fingerboard. The order of the notes and which ones are doubled is determined by practical considerations not by what

[VIHUELA] Recording wizardry and Re: Schickhardt and Fibiger arrangements

2012-07-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Stuart, Well, I have Kristian Buhl-Mortensen's recent CD of these suites and very tasteful they are too. But I'm a wee bit bothered that the balance between guitar, bass viol and hapsichord is only possible through the wizardry of modern recording technology! In practice I

[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] 5 course guitar - partial strums To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Date: Friday, 1 June, 2012, 8:08 Dear Monica, Just to test the envelope a little, a couple of observations arising from

[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
the 5th course, that they didn't even bother to put a dot there if it would make a dissonance, they just assumed you wouldn't include it in the strum. On May 31, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Various 5 course guitar tablature sources ask for partial strums in which only

[VIHUELA] Re: 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-06-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
, they just assumed you wouldn't include it in the strum. On May 31, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Various 5 course guitar tablature sources ask for partial strums in which only some of the courses are to be strummed; unstrummed courses being indicated by dots (although

[VIHUELA] 5 course guitar - partial strums

2012-05-31 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Various 5 course guitar tablature sources ask for partial strums in which only some of the courses are to be strummed; unstrummed courses being indicated by dots (although the practice may, of course, be more widespread than suggested only by the tablatures with these dots).

[VIHUELA] Re: Monica's Webpage

2012-04-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Well, I did Rob - but I sent my thanks and congrats just to her! But so the web knows - thanks again Monica. and thanks Rob fr yr time too Martyn --- On Thu, 5/4/12, Braig, Eugene brai...@osu.edu wrote: From: Braig, Eugene brai...@osu.edu Subject:

[VIHUELA] Re: Caccini's instrument

2011-12-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
and theorboes - should all this be on the vihuela list?! On 19/12/2011 16:05, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Dear Stewart I agree with almost everything you write (especially about RD's Musicall Banquet!) - I noticed it after sending and wondered who, if any, would spot

[VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo

2011-12-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Eloy, I'm very much with Monica on this: what little evidence we have (such as Millioni) suggests a certain refinement in strumming (... in this way the music will be rendered more sweetly.). And the iconography ( not much to go on I confess) seem to predominate with people

[VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo

2011-12-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
/1600/1/Miles11MPhil.pdf cud __ From: Martyn Hodgson [2]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Eloy Cruz [3]eloyc...@gmail.com Cc: Vihuelalist [4]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:41 AM

[VIHUELA] PROTOCOL OF EMAILS (again...)

2011-12-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, 17 December, 2011, 15:35 Ah - I think I know what's happening - you've got the wrong end of the stick: I am glad

[VIHUELA] Caccini's instrument {was Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-18 Thread Martyn Hodgson
... --- On Sun, 18/12/11, Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl wrote: From: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk

[VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Martyn --- On Fri, 16/12/11, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar

[VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-17 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: [VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, 17 December, 2011, 8:58

[VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you for this Eloy. But, of course, it might be said that 6 guitars, percussion and conch shell is already excessive. The question is: what evidence do we have that such instruments, and in such numbers, were expected by JG de Padilla and his auditors in contemporary

[VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
{was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, 15 December, 2011, 20:17 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:25 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Strumming

[VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, 16 December, 2011, 14:08 I thought one of the significant points of the period was a transition

[VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu, Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl Date: Wednesday, 14 December, 2011, 15:44 - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson [1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk To: Lex

[VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-15 Thread Martyn Hodgson
wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday

[VIHUELA] Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-14 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Lex, Much as I deprecate the high lervels of banging and thrashing about produced by some guitar continuo players these days, I see no reason to suppose that strumming should be generally eschewed ('It seems unlikely however that a chordal style, continuously including all

[VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu, Eloy Cruz eloyc...@gmail.com Date: Monday, 12 December, 2011, 15:31 On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:49:05 + (GMT), Martyn Hodgson wrote Indeed - this supplements what I wrote below - thank you

[VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday

[VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson [6][6]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist [7][7]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu, Lex Eisenhardt [8][8]eisenha...@planet.nl, R. Mattes [9][9]r...@mh-freiburg.de Date: Monday, 12

[VIHUELA] Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
wishes, Lex - Original Message - From: wikla [1]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi To: Martyn Hodgson [2]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist [3]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu; Lex Eisenhardt [4]eisenha...@planet.nl Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Agazzari

[VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
, 12/12/11, eisen...@planet.nl eisen...@planet.nl wrote: From: eisen...@planet.nl eisen...@planet.nl Subject: RE: Return to earlier question: {was Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Vihuelalist vihuela

[VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
r...@mh-freiburg.de wrote: From: R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu, eisen...@planet.nl Date

[VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
at the moment - can you? Martyn --- On Mon, 12/12/11, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar

[VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}

2011-12-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
/12/11, Monica Hall [1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall [2]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Return to earlier question: {was Re: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]} To: Martyn Hodgson [3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc

[VIHUELA] Re: Capona?

2011-12-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I suppose it could be said that the guitar would be covered by his etc... Also note he only mentions the 'chitarrino' (small 4 course instrument?) in his list of embellishing instruments and omits the larger (5 course) guitar. This, I suggest, implies that the guitar does

[VIHUELA] Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]

2011-12-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
...@planet.nl wrote: From: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Capona? To: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Sunday, 11 December, 2011, 10:03 I suppose it could be said that the guitar would

[VIHUELA] Re: hand plucking position (wasGuitar bridges)

2011-12-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Lex, I agree with Chris: thumb-out does not inhibite playing through both strings of a double course. Neither need (or should) the thumb and finger ends meet using thumb-out as you suppose: the thumb is slightly forward of the fingers. Probably the best historic

[VIHUELA] Re: hand plucking position (wasGuitar bridges)

2011-12-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
...@planet.nl wrote: From: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: hand plucking position (wasGuitar bridges) To: vl vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Sunday, 4 December, 2011, 9:34 Hi Martyn, I agree

[VIHUELA] Re: hand plucking position (wasGuitar bridges)

2011-12-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Ones would have generally expected. Martyn --- On Sun, 4/12/11, Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl wrote: From: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: hand plucking position (wasGuitar bridges) To: vl vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martyn Hodgson

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar stringing (again - sigh) was Re: Guitar bridges

2011-11-30 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar stringing (again - sigh) was Re: Guitar bridges To: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl Date: Wednesday, 30 November, 2011, 13:53 Thanks for this Lex. One of my guitars does have

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges

2011-11-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
wrote: From: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges To: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 9:41 Eh, I'll try. If you make a normal loop and keep some 10 cms extra

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges

2011-11-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges To: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 14:10 Hmmm .. we agree that it makes plucking just the lower of the octave pair easier if one wishes

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar bridges

2011-11-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica, As far as I can see, the evidence from extant instruments seems to be that slotted bridges were often employed in the 17th century, especially by French makers; Italian makers seemingly preferring a bridge with individual string holes (tho' there are exceptions).

[VIHUELA] Re: Carre 'Anche' - etc.........

2011-09-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Hello you two, I've been away a couple of days: can you kindly remind me of the principal issue in this latest exchange? It surely can't be that you aim to base an entire case on Carre's book rgds Martyn From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk To: Lex Eisenhardt

[VIHUELA] Re: Carre 'Anche' - etc.........

2011-09-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
. I'm still holding mine for the revelation of the principal issue.. MH From: Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday

[VIHUELA] Re: Passing dissonances (was Marini, Granata etc)

2011-05-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
dissonances (was Marini, Granata etc) To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011, 14:49 Well - I'm not sure that there is any point in reviving this discussion - especially as I disagree with most of what

[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar culture and habits?

2011-05-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
But my dear Arto - there really is no problem between debating conflicting views and 'friendship' - you can have both. It's only when personal abuse appears (as it did in some Lute list exchanges a number of years ago) that we ought to throw in the towel. However, I do agree

[VIHUELA] Re: Passing dissonances (was Marini, Granata etc)

2011-05-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica, On going through my backlog of messages, I see you sent a couple further to our discussion Marini's Scherzi 1622 whilst I was away. In general I think we seem to agree on many points, except: 1. I can find no prohibition to employing an instrument to play the

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar continuo example

2011-05-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Hello Monica, I've just returned from an extended Easter break and am catching up with emails, but this is more interesting than most Pitch standards come first to mind when thinking of any reason why the guitar part and the keyboard part should be a tone higher than

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar continuo example

2011-05-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Ralf, Prima la musica is a very reputable small publishing firm (one man I think - Brian Clark) producing limited runs of specialist early music editions. I'd guess the ARR tag is used, as by other commercial publishers, to try and ensure they are paid a royalty when anyone

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar continuo example

2011-05-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
-5graysinnsquare.co.uk/news/index.cfm?id=1391 regards Martyn --- On Tue, 10/5/11, R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de wrote: From: R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar continuo example To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk, Rockford Mjos rm

[VIHUELA] Re: Guitar continuo example

2011-05-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I believe they (Ex-Cathedra dir. Jeff Skidmore) did use the edition not, of course, expecting all the subsequent trouble. Mh --- On Tue, 10/5/11, R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de wrote: From: R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar continuo example To: Martyn Hodgson

[VIHUELA] Re: Passing dissonances (was Marini, Granata etc)

2011-04-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
chord) yrs ttcod Martyn --- On Wed, 27/4/11, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Passing dissonances (was Marini, Granata etc) To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela

[VIHUELA] Re: Passing dissonances (was Marini, Granata etc)

2011-04-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Monica, Well, here I can certainly agree with you: Gmin with Gmaj seems crackers. But out of interest could you give me the specific example quoted? Are we sure it's not S Stubbs thinking it ought to be Gm? rgds Martyn --- On Thu, 28/4/11, Monica Hall

[VIHUELA] Re: Composition of short songs in early 17th century Italy - was Marini - was Grenerin

2011-04-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Italy - was Marini - was Grenerin To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday, 25 April, 2011, 18:18 Dear Martyn It really is easier just think of it as an Fmajor chord held over a G which is anticipating

[VIHUELA] Re: Composition of short songs in early 17th century Italy - was Marini - was Grenerin

2011-04-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
you believe? regards Martyn --- On Tue, 26/4/11, Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl wrote: From: Lex Eisenhardt eisenha...@planet.nl Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Composition of short songs in early 17th century Italy - was Marini - was Grenerin To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar

[VIHUELA] Passing dissonances (was Marini, Granata etc)

2011-04-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- was Grenerin To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Vihuelalist vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 26 April, 2011, 13:17 Dear Martyn, The F major chord against the note d is simply a 65 chord on a bass F That is exactly what I said. It is the first

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