[AsburyPark] Re: Governor Corzine's Anti Crime Roll Out; Pt. 3 in Camden
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: We need funding to help get the funding to have our City covered in this program we need camberas in AP Michael Brim no question about it we need cameras, the uez doesnt have funds? here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it was on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! dec 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a waste of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we should all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually got for these half ass events, my take without the facts, just made a couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then budget the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy the cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs of these events, thank you Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Cost of Events
Good Point, I hope we can get these cost figures. Transparency is key to good government in New Jersey. Since we had the past corruption problems, Asbury Park has to double its efforts in its open access to information. I'm curious, as you know, about the Mayor's Ball. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim mwbnj@ wrote: FYI: We need funding to help get the funding to have our City covered in this program we need camberas in AP Michael Brim no question about it we need cameras, the uez doesnt have funds? here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it was on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! dec 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a waste of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we should all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually got for these half ass events, my take without the facts, just made a couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then budget the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy the cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs of these events, thank you Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Cost of Events
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Point, I hope we can get these cost figures. Transparency is key to good government in New Jersey. I'll put up $100 towards the cost of YOUR cameras if someone produces how dollars are allocated to what: UEZ: amount collected (business breakdown), how spent, where, how much towards admin. Grant money: same as above, all sources. Other donations: same as above Recreation: same as above. Include amounts contributed bu schools, if any. others: beach ops which I know does the best they can Housing: grants, programs, coah,u name it. Call it the $100 challenge. Anyone can put it up to add to the kitty. Make it accessible on line and near live and there might be a bonus. Show the city and state taxpayers the money, AP. Note: We'll even leave abbott accountability out of the equation. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] more spingsteen and AP : MAGIC
Magic, the title of Springsteen's album will earn Bruce some nice money. Magic, how AP manages to make money disappear. That's it for the day. Work to do. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Cost of Events
Don't forget those Green Acres Grants and Historic Preservation Grants. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: Good Point, I hope we can get these cost figures. Transparency is key to good government in New Jersey. I'll put up $100 towards the cost of YOUR cameras if someone produces how dollars are allocated to what: UEZ: amount collected (business breakdown), how spent, where, how much towards admin. Grant money: same as above, all sources. Other donations: same as above Recreation: same as above. Include amounts contributed bu schools, if any. others: beach ops which I know does the best they can Housing: grants, programs, coah,u name it. Call it the $100 challenge. Anyone can put it up to add to the kitty. Make it accessible on line and near live and there might be a bonus. Show the city and state taxpayers the money, AP. Note: We'll even leave abbott accountability out of the equation. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Recreation
You guys are really funny thanks for the laughs. The bottom line is could they have spent less money the answer is yes. Could they have used the money more wisely yes but, the money was there and the people were hollering about no recreation and the water spouts and the pool at the boys and girls club where not everyone could swim at was not enough. So they got rid of the accident waiting to happen pool (hole in the ground filled with garbage) and restored it to a safe water park. So let's take on the next project that the kids can enjoy and make sure we get more for our money. Anybody remember a pogo stick? Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation
Anybody remember a pogo stick? denise is the only repsonse I got for the who should get money in AP: Pop Warner. Who needs the pogo stick? Between the 5 of us, I bet we'd all chip in. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: recreation
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommy? The fight against computer/video games is an endless battle. I start out by standing next to them mimicing the sound of the keyboard (clackity clackity clackity clackity). Then I move to sarcasm: Cool kids have human friends. Always ends the same way, with me yelling Off! Now! We keep them busy with sports music and CCD. I hate September to June, because we are on a 7 day per week schedule (no joke). Each day we have a kid going somewhere. We stop it all for the summer. No comittments. Just go out and have fun. As they are growing I know there is going to come a point when they will be able to hang with their friends more than me (starting to happen now), so I'm fitting in as much as I can right now. We are at the point where when we go places as a family, my two older ones are asking Can't I just go over so and so's house until you guys get back? No. Get in the car. My daughter is a teenager. I figure once she gets a license, I'm toast. I make her hang with me now - like it or not. She's usually pretty good about it once we get where we are going and I pull the ipod out of her ear. She's a great kid. So good she suckered us into having the 3 boys. Thought they'd be as easy as her. As they say, NOT! Still fun though. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency
I went to Jewell Marketings website. I think I found out why the idea of a hundred banjo players was marketed for the Apple Festival. Mr. Jewell teaches banjos. Not only are we paying them for marketing, were paying for them to have a banjo bash. One last note, Jewell Marketing is from Fair Haven. Gilmour is a council member from there or was one. Is that how we pick talent? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it was on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! dec 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a waste of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we should all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually got for these half ass events, my take without the facts, just made a couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then budget the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy the cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs of these events, thank you Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency
What is the job of Jewell? PR or running events? If we hired them for PR, looking at the website, we hired the wrong company. However, if their role is only to stage these events, then I guess we are getting what we pay for. I thing the city needs a PR firm. - Original Message From: rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:35:34 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency I went to Jewell Marketings website. I think I found out why the idea of a hundred banjo players was marketed for the Apple Festival. Mr. Jewell teaches banjos. Not only are we paying them for marketing, were paying for them to have a banjo bash. One last note, Jewell Marketing is from Fair Haven. Gilmour is a council member from there or was one. Is that how we pick talent? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it was on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! dec 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a waste of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we should all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually got for these half ass events, my take without the facts, just made a couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then budget the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy the cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs of these events, thank you Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658
[AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency
I thing the city needs a PR firm. I could think of a few people who think we know it all and can do it. Send the check, please. We'll even buy some stuff for recreation, with our names plastered on it. If I were them, I would of gone back to the old slogan Jewell of the Jersey Shore. Then I'd bring in Jewell, the singer, http://www.jeweljk.com/ in the Paramount. For the summer '08. She can sing. As soon as Werner hits the lottery, I'll book her. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Governor Corzine's Anti Crime Roll Out; Pt. 3 in Camden
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: We need funding to help get the funding to have our City covered in this program we need camberas in AP Michael Brim Morris, Johnson Associates, a subsidiary of The Birdsall Services Group was awarded a consulting contract to provide a digital video surveillance system for Camden. MJA is located in Eatontown. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Governor Corzine's Anti Crime Roll Out; Pt. 3 in Camden
Let's all start contacting the folks Tommy listed in the post addressed to me. I'll bump it up so you can check it out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim mwbnj@ wrote: FYI: We need funding to help get the funding to have our City covered in this program we need camberas in AP Michael Brim Morris, Johnson Associates, a subsidiary of The Birdsall Services Group was awarded a consulting contract to provide a digital video surveillance system for Camden. MJA is located in Eatontown. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: For Jack
Bump --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Ran into Johna Karpinski again and told her of you again. She has some funding initiatives going for your park there. She told me to give you her number. She works at Conover: 732-897-9200 x 127. You two will work well together. 2. In today's paper, Corzine, Milgram (atty geneneral) and Fuentes (state police) announced a new anti-crime initiative, that included $$$ for cameras. I know this issue is your passion. I think you should call each of their offices asap. Tell them where you live and that you want cameras for AP. Ask how you can make that happen. Don't hesitate. I'd help with the calls, but those folks aren't exactly my peeps ;-). There is someone in Corzine's office that I'm pretty sure would throw the phone if you mentioned me (don't ask). Here's a list of folks I think you should have help you with the calls: - Assemblyman Sean Kean. He did that Press Conference about a month ago here in AP as he is seeking money for cameras. He's running for Senator - great incentive to help you now. - Councilman Keady. He's working on it with Sean. - Deputy Mayor Bruno. My estimation is he is more involved with the D party than Keady. Wouldn't hurt to have him call with you. - Campaign Headquartes of Villapiano, Napolitano and Pirnot in Ocean Township. They are Democrats running for Senate and Assembly respectively. Great incentive to help you right now. If you get him on the phone, tell Johnny Napolitano I said if he doesn't help you I won't let him pose for publicity pictures with me anymore. Caveat: Elections a few weeks away. Everyone's busy. Expect a slowed response from candidates, but keep on them. You make it happen, I'll nominate you for a public service plaque. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: For Jack
Here's one thing to think about. I wonder if the City is dragging their feet on this because people perceive there to be a lull in crime at the moment. That's the wrong attitude to take. We still have problems here that need to be strongly combated. We can't wait for another incident like what happened in Newark to happen here. Outsiders still fear AP, and the surveillence system will help to quell those fears, and change things for the better in the city. As for a lull in crime...i'm not sure if that's the case. I think we still have drug dealers riding around on bicycles. As long as drugs are in this town, so are gangs, and so are the guns. And the knife wielding bicyclist is something we can not tolerate. Last night, I saw 2 police cars racing down 1st Ave. at high speed, so something must've been going on. Finally, there is something i've been thinking about lately. Yes, it's about Library Square Park, so bear with me. I'm beginning to think that the local drug lords might have enlisted some kids to do the vandalizing there. By vandalizing the fountain, they turned out the lights. Since the fountain went dark, i've seen an increase in discarded drug bags around the fountain. Coincidence? Maybe. I also think it's terrible that the city is ignoring the lighting in the park. The central area is completely dark at night. This needs to change --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bump --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: 1. Ran into Johna Karpinski again and told her of you again. She has some funding initiatives going for your park there. She told me to give you her number. She works at Conover: 732-897-9200 x 127. You two will work well together. 2. In today's paper, Corzine, Milgram (atty geneneral) and Fuentes (state police) announced a new anti-crime initiative, that included $$$ for cameras. I know this issue is your passion. I think you should call each of their offices asap. Tell them where you live and that you want cameras for AP. Ask how you can make that happen. Don't hesitate. I'd help with the calls, but those folks aren't exactly my peeps ;-). There is someone in Corzine's office that I'm pretty sure would throw the phone if you mentioned me (don't ask). Here's a list of folks I think you should have help you with the calls: - Assemblyman Sean Kean. He did that Press Conference about a month ago here in AP as he is seeking money for cameras. He's running for Senator - great incentive to help you now. - Councilman Keady. He's working on it with Sean. - Deputy Mayor Bruno. My estimation is he is more involved with the D party than Keady. Wouldn't hurt to have him call with you. - Campaign Headquartes of Villapiano, Napolitano and Pirnot in Ocean Township. They are Democrats running for Senate and Assembly respectively. Great incentive to help you right now. If you get him on the phone, tell Johnny Napolitano I said if he doesn't help you I won't let him pose for publicity pictures with me anymore. Caveat: Elections a few weeks away. Everyone's busy. Expect a slowed response from candidates, but keep on them. You make it happen, I'll nominate you for a public service plaque. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] paramount
Facade of Paramount Theatre to be restored by November Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/11/07 BY NANCY SHIELDS STAFF WRITER ASBURY PARK Larry Potter and his Landmark Studio crew out of Pittstown, Hunterdon County, hope to finish up the first phase of their restoration work on the Paramount Theatre facade by early November. Madison Marquette, the lead developer of the entertainment portion of the city's beachfront plan, brought Potter to Asbury Park to first work on the ornamental ceiling of the 1,500-seat theater in April. By June, Potter started on the south side of the 1929 building's facade where his workers are repairing and replacing stone blocks on the corners and restoring numerous decorative copper and terra cotta ornamentation including copper sailing ships and lanterns. We're trying to get this (south) elevation and arcade in good shape, Potter said. The theater, part of the Convention Hall arena and arcade complex designed by architects Warren and Wetmore, was placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1979. Potter is taking apart a 12-foot sailing ship with three masts on the south roof. Another 12-foot ship, which looks like it is slowing sinking, awaits him on the north side, and two smaller ships are on the theater's west side. The copper is in very good shape, Potter said. The way we're pulling it apart is very important on how it goes back together. Madison Marquette also has begun renovations of the Casino and power plant at the southern end of the boardwalk and is following a plan to renovate the boardwalk pavilions. The work at the Paramount includes reglazing the colorful terra cotta designs of sea horses and sea monsters, and restoring three types of lanterns sconces, barrel lamps and ship lamps. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thing the city needs a PR firm. I could think of a few people who think we know it all and can do it. Send the check, please. We'll even buy some stuff for recreation, with our names plastered on it. If I were them, I would of gone back to the old slogan Jewell of the Jersey Shore. Then I'd bring in Jewell, the singer, http://www.jeweljk.com/ in the Paramount. For the summer '08. She can sing. As soon as Werner hits the lottery, I'll book her. I'd fix the AC in Convention Hall and bring in Antiques Roadshow. There has to be someone in AP with connections to this show. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] PR - Cole Porter included AP in a song
Is it an earthquake or simply a shock? Is it the good turtle soup or merely the mock? Is it a cocktail, this feeling of joy? Or is what I feel the real mccoy? Is it for all time or simply a lark? Is it granada I see or only asbury park? Is it a fancy not worth thinking of? Or is it at long last love? Is it an earthquake, or simply a shock? Is it the good turtle soup, or is it merely the mock? Is it a cocktail, this feeling of joy? Or is what I feel the real mccoy? Is it for all time or simply a lark? Is it granada I see or only asbury park? Is it a fancy, not worth thinking of? Or is it at long long long last love? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] NYC Big Time PR
October 11, 2007 City's Virtues to Be Sold in New Global Ad Campaign By PATRICK McGEEHAN New York City has historically relied on its own magnetism to draw visitors from around the country and the world. But now, the home of Madison Avenue is going to try advertising itself in a big, broad way. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg unveiled the city's first global advertising campaign yesterday in Times Square. The campaign, which carries the theme This is New York City, includes a television ad that will be the first to promote the city to potential visitors who live overseas. It is the latest weapon aimed at hitting the mayor's target of increasing the number of visitors to 50 million a year by 2015. Last year, the city drew 43.8 million visitors, more than in any previous year, according to NYC Company, the city's tourism promotion agency. To reach that goal, NYC Company plans to place billboards in cities across America and Europe and to broadcast its new commercial in Britain, Ireland and Spain, on local TV stations in Philadelphia and Boston, and on the History Channel. George Fertitta, the chief executive of NYC Company, said the ad placements would be worth about $30 million, but would cost the agency less than $5 million in cash because many of them were arranged through trades. The city's contract with Cemusa, a provider of bus shelters and other structures, gives it hundreds of billboards that it can swap for advertising space on the streets of several European cities. Much of the money for the campaign is coming from the city budget. When he set his tourism target a couple of years ago, Mr. Bloomberg pledged to increase spending on tourism promotion by $15 million a year. Historically, NYC Company received most of its funds from hotel operators and other companies in the travel and tourism industries. The agency organized promotions but had never created a comprehensive campaign on a par with New York State's long-running I Love New York ads. Mr. Bloomberg said yesterday that it was time to recognize how important tourism is to the city's economy and to try to increase it at a time when a weak dollar is making the city more affordable to foreigners. People are shocked to find that what they thought was a very expensive city isn't all that expensive, Mr. Bloomberg said. Mr. Bloomberg said the city was competing for tourist dollars against other destinations, like Las Vegas, that spend far more. The Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority has an annual marketing budget of $127 million, about $86 million of which goes toward advertising around the world, according to Vince Alberta, a spokesman for the authority. Las Vegas, which uses the slogan What happens here stays here, also has a big goal. It hopes to attract 43 million visitors annually by the end of the decade, Mr. Alberta said. In contrast to Las Vegas's attractions, what New York has to offer is more difficult to summarize, city officials said. Daniel Doctoroff, the deputy mayor for economic development, recounted the difficulty that the writer E. B. White had in defining the city in his 1949 essay Here is New York. White called it a concentrate of art and commerce and sport and religion and entertainment and finance. But Mr. Doctoroff said, How do you turn that into a marketing campaign? He said the officials decided that in order to get at New York's core, you simply have to let New York speak for itself. So the theme of the ads is simply This is New York City, and the ads combine images of the city like the Statue of Liberty, Yankee Stadium and the Brooklyn Bridge with animated symbols meant to spark a viewer's imagination. This is targeted to the excitement of New York City, Mr. Bloomberg said. It's a lot more upbeat than just `I Love New York.' Mr. Fertitta of NYC Company said the ads were intended to allow people to see the extraordinary abundance of the city. We don't need to come up with a real slogan that's designed to convince somebody of something. The TV ad is set to a remix of Ella Fitzgerald's rendition of Take the A Train. The music and the animation were intended to have you feel it yourself, said Kevin Roddy, the executive creative director of BBH, the agency that made the ads. New York is such an active city, Mr. Roddy said. We wanted to do advertising that did something. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency
Did they do a show from convention hall once before? - Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:55:15 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thing the city needs a PR firm. I could think of a few people who think we know it all and can do it. Send the check, please. We'll even buy some stuff for recreation, with our names plastered on it. If I were them, I would of gone back to the old slogan Jewell of the Jersey Shore. Then I'd bring in Jewell, the singer, http://www.jeweljk. com/ in the Paramount. For the summer '08. She can sing. As soon as Werner hits the lottery, I'll book her. I'd fix the AC in Convention Hall and bring in Antiques Roadshow. There has to be someone in AP with connections to this show. Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did they do a show from convention hall once before? they did two small shows in the paramount,over two years, it had quite a few of the people you see on tv but not all, it was a scaled down version, really good, kate melina and some charitys were the ones that brought it here, monmouth university filmed it, guesing im going to be close 2000 and 2001, have it in the hall in the fall or winter and you do not have to fix the ac, this past weeks antique show at the hall was very nice for the first one, im sure something they will build on and make it biggger and better in the future - Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:55:15 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: I thing the city needs a PR firm. I could think of a few people who think we know it all and can do it. Send the check, please. We'll even buy some stuff for recreation, with our names plastered on it. If I were them, I would of gone back to the old slogan Jewell of the Jersey Shore. Then I'd bring in Jewell, the singer, http://www.jeweljk. com/ in the Paramount. For the summer '08. She can sing. As soon as Werner hits the lottery, I'll book her. I'd fix the AC in Convention Hall and bring in Antiques Roadshow. There has to be someone in AP with connections to this show. __ __ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR
See, it's a matter of taste. Maybe I'm too old school to assimilate to things like Pier Village. All I can say is that of course some people will flock to something like that, because it's all they know anymore. But compared to a earlier time in our culture, Pier Village is an abomination. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that it's attractive in any way. I find it sad that the next few generations will accept our strip mall culture and things like Pier Village as the best our culture can offer. But that's just me. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: October 11, 2007 City's Virtues to Be Sold in New Global Ad Campaign By PATRICK McGEEHAN I worked on Madison ave for a short period next NYC Comp offices. Pier Village created a destination. How many times has my daughter hit me up or blown her paycheck at Pier - Greek to me, Sawa, Nirvanna or Jenna Molly or michael angleos...for the new kids, Pier V is hot. They are waiting for AP to lure them in, other then the Pony. Does the downtown bring in the 16-20 year olds? No - at least what I see. There is no draw for them. So will they be drawn here 4 years, 7 or 10 years from now - when things may be more built up?? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Transparency
Hasn't Jewell Marketing had an office in Asbury Park for several years? Maybe that's how (or why) they were chosen. On Oct 11, 2007, at 9:35 AM, rook782 wrote: I went to Jewell Marketings website. I think I found out why the idea of a hundred banjo players was marketed for the Apple Festival. Mr. Jewell teaches banjos. Not only are we paying them for marketing, were paying for them to have a banjo bash. One last note, Jewell Marketing is from Fair Haven. Gilmour is a council member from there or was one. Is that how we pick talent? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here is a stupid idea, lets have no more bs events, chef puff, no cake,unattended arts festival, apple festival attended because it was on a saturday night on cookman, great event for the kids, not!!! dec 15th winter carnival, what is this going to be 110 santa clauses looking at the lights and trees put up every year? talk about a waste of money this series was the biggest rip off going, one day we should all get an acounting of who made what and what the city actually got for these half ass events, my take without the facts, just made a couple of people tons of money, if im wrong someone please supply this group with the costs etc. and i will apologize, lets stop the crap and use this money for the cameras, if not this year then budget the money were going to save, by not having these events and buy the cameras out of nest years budget, again i wish someone perhaps councilman keady who posts here will ask for and give us the costs of these events, thank you
[AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kids and alot of others like the summer crowds there.Waiting on line for AVE/le Club, being told u can't sit in that chair cost it costs $300 for a bottle or looking at people willing to pluck down $10-$20 to valet the car or waiting an hour to go to the turning point. It's destination, not for everyone. And yea, people complain who live in the cardboxes about the crowds, the music which gets killed at 10 outside at Sawa. Just give the sand and water. No towel, No $20 lounge. Just a clean beach with no waves. Somone once had a t-shirt in Italian transated: Clean Air Fresh Water and (I can't put the last line) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
Hinge, You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. __ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
[AsburyPark] Re: Transparency
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't Jewell Marketing had an office in Asbury Park for several years? What came first, the chicken or the egg? Better PR to PR your PR. Something like that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: October 11, 2007 City's Virtues to Be Sold in New Global Ad Campaign By PATRICK McGEEHAN I worked on Madison ave for a short period next NYC Comp offices. Pier Village created a destination. How many times has my daughter hit me up or blown her paycheck at Pier - Greek to me, Sawa, Nirvanna or Jenna Molly or michael angleos...for the new kids, Pier V is hot. They are waiting for AP to lure them in, other then the Pony. Does the downtown bring in the 16-20 year olds? No - at least what I see. There is no draw for them. So will they be drawn here 4 years, 7 or 10 years from now - when things may be more built up?? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Follow The Leader
I was not shocked or surprised to hear of the high numbers of New Jersey Residents who have fled the State. I contribute this Great Escape to three very simple things. The highest taxes in the country, the most corrupt officials in the country and the mass development using abusive condemnation and eminent domain. When you tax the people out, rob the people out and throw the people out of their homes and businesses, what did you expect would happen? These three problems are controlled by 120 elected officials sent to Trenton, by the very same people who later wake up and start packing to move. Those of us who have not started boxing up our possessions as of yet, have an opportunity to do something to fix the problem. On November 6 send all 120 incumbents back to private life by voting for some new Senate Assembly people who are dedicated to lower spending, smaller government, less taxes, honest Government and development without the use of eminent domain for private developer gain. May God have mercy on New Jersey. KEVIN BROWN --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerseyans leave at alarming rate Outflow is damaging economy Wednesday, October 10, 2007 BY JOE DONOHUE Star-Ledger Staff Residents are leaving New Jersey at three times the rate they were just five years ago, a trend that is already doing real damage to the state's economy and budget coffers, a new Rutgers University report shows. The exodus is so bad, the study says, it could lead to an overall drop in the state's population as soon as next year. The population outflow is real, is approaching worrisome dimensions, and is exerting a small but increasingly negative impact on the New Jersey economy, said the study by Rutgers economists James Hughes and Joseph Seneca. Last year alone, the loss of people cost the state economy about $10 billion in income, and about $680 million in state budget revenue. While the economists said they are certain the exodus is growing, they are less sure of why. Possible reasons include high housing costs and the state's generally high cost of living. Society in general also is increasingly mobile, they said. Seneca said state leaders need a broad agenda to reverse the slide. The solutions, he said, should include a further reduction in the highest-in-the-nation property tax burden, more investments in infrastructure, science and technology and new policies to restore business confidence. These trends are not going to be reversed overnight, Seneca said. In their study, Seneca and Hughes reviewed Census and Internal Revenue Service data between 2002 and 2006. They found the gap between the number of people leaving the state and new arrivals has more than tripled. In 2002, the gap was 23,759. By last year, it had jumped to 72,547. Only three other states -- California, Louisiana and New York -- showed bigger losses. Florida, Pennsylvania and North Carolina held the most appeal for New Jerseyans, according to the study, which is available at www.policy.rutgers.edu. The trend could lead to an actual reduction in the state's population as early as 2008, the study says. Annual population growth fell from 79,184 in 2002 to 21,410 last year. There has been a sharp deceleration of population growth in New Jersey starting in 2002 and persisting since then, the report said. This has been primarily caused by the sharp acceleration in the number of New Jerseyans moving to other states. The slump in the housing market could slow the exodus: Basically, if you can't sell your house, you can't move, the report said. And in the long run, other states may lose their allure because of their own rising expenses and congestion. William Dressel, executive director of the New Jersey State League of Municipalities, said called the study bad news. It has profound implications not only for the state but local governments. A decline in population not only would hurt the state's economy and budget, but could cost New Jersey another congressional seat and curtail population-based federal aid, he said. Assembly Minority Leader Alex DeCroce (R-Morris) said it is no coincidence the exodus swelled during a period in which Democrats raised state taxes more per capita than any other state. The average property tax bill jumped 29 percent to $6,170, also a national high. People just can't handle it anymore. You can't simply tax your way out of a problem, said DeCroce, who called for deeper budget cuts at all levels of government. Philip Kirschner, president of New Jersey Business and Industry Association, said the exodus of more than 231,000 people over five years is alarming and signals the need for new state policies. When people vote with their feet, I think you have to take that very seriously and see what we can try to do to limit that, he said. While economists ponder
[AsburyPark] We reap what we sow...
We Reap What We Sow!! Body: The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Com. My confession: I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are: Christmas trees. It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, Merry Christmas to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If people want a crche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away. I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat. Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship Nick and Jessica and we aren't allowed to worship God as we understand Him? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where Nick and Jessica came from and where the America we knew went to. In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking. Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her How could God let something like this happen? (regarding Katrina) Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone? In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK. Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage t heir self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK. Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with WE REAP WHAT WE SOW. Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace. Are you laughing? Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it. Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us. Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in. My Best Regards. Honestly and respectfully, Ben Stein ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR
Don't forget that for years malls were the coolest thing, but plenty of towns are moving back to the downtown approach now. There are many malls around the country that are closing or becoming different than they once were (see Seaview Square as a local example). The idea of things like Pier Village may be destination bound, but it also could be a fad like the malls were. And as far as people leaving New Jersey, I wonder if that takes account for all of the immigrants moving into the state because it just might balance things out. After a short trip back to Virginia, I can say that from VA to NJ everything is starting to look the same. There are chain restaurants, mini-outdoor malls, and everything wherever you go. New Jersey is not the only place losing an identity. The major chains are on a mission to remove local identity from the country and they are largely succeeding. So, why are these people leaving to? I'd say for lower mortgages. Outside our borders doesn't really offer more or look different than Jersey - just may be a little cheaper, that's all. On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Hinge wrote: See, it's a matter of taste. Maybe I'm too old school to assimilate to things like Pier Village. All I can say is that of course some people will flock to something like that, because it's all they know anymore. But compared to a earlier time in our culture, Pier Village is an abomination. Nobody will ever be able to convince me that it's attractive in any way. I find it sad that the next few generations will accept our strip mall culture and things like Pier Village as the best our culture can offer. But that's just me. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: October 11, 2007 City's Virtues to Be Sold in New Global Ad Campaign By PATRICK McGEEHAN I worked on Madison ave for a short period next NYC Comp offices. Pier Village created a destination. How many times has my daughter hit me up or blown her paycheck at Pier - Greek to me, Sawa, Nirvanna or Jenna Molly or michael angleos...for the new kids, Pier V is hot. They are waiting for AP to lure them in, other then the Pony. Does the downtown bring in the 16-20 year olds? No - at least what I see. There is no draw for them. So will they be drawn here 4 years, 7 or 10 years from now - when things may be more built up??
[AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR
The major chains are on a mission to remove local identity from the country and they are largely succeeding. Again, where local governments have ordinances that control grwoth, design etc. So, why are these people leaving to? I'd say for lower mortgages. TAXES. At least you have a few years in other places, like Indiana, befreo all the people from NJ start bithcing they dont have garbage pick up or have to take their own recycling or not enough police. Where will we all wind up? NJ moves to PA, PA hates NJ people, so they move to Ohio or VA or Upstate NY. Move to Dallas or Houston, then those people move to Austin.. or Mexico and the mexicans get so pissed becasue we build home depots and everything right across the border and move there, etc... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] reason to move part 2
we were heading to PA friday night working our way out of ocean twp on west park ave, going past the highschool as the traffic was heading into the fball game. No one directing traffic. As I toot along, a women decides to pull out and bash into me in her SUV. And kept on going. Call the police. My question: How come no ones is directing traffic? A: We do, after the game. As I continue to bitch I am told you should both drive more carefully. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR
Again, where local governments have ordinances that control grwoth, design etc. Take Tinton Falls for example. They approved building a Home Depot in an area where there are already 2 or 3 Home Depots less then a few short miles away. Ridiculous. We don't need it, but they let it happen anyhow. More green space disappears with orange in it's place. And what happened to American manufacturing. Gone. Terrible. Recently I watched The War on PBS and it really showed how much America has lost since then in terms of manufacturing. We taught the world how to built quality things, and then gave it away. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Celebrate New Jersey, Redux
In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:30:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May God have mercy on New Jersey. I Celebrate New Jersey: -- -- Caveat lector: 1000's of words and dozens of links within the links. Not for the faint-hearted or fact-allergic. 2007 Reasons to Celebrate NJ! (as released, 4,850 - words that is): _http://www.celebratenj.com/jersey_top.html_ (http://www.celebratenj.com/jersey_top.html) NJ is second only to California among all state, based on number of cities in the top 100 best places to live in the U.S.A. _http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2007/states/AL.html_ (http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2007/states/AL.html) And much more previously posted -- _Click here: AsburyPark : Message: Re: Radio Nowhere_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30048) (http://www.celebratenj.com/jersey_top.html) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR
In a message dated 10/11/2007 1:06:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where will we all wind up? NJ moves to PA, PA hates NJ people, so they move to Ohio or VA or Upstate NY. Move to Dallas or Houston, then those people move to Austin.. or Mexico and the mexicans get so pissed becasue we build home depots and everything right across the border and move there, etc... What doesn't get as much play in the media is the number of people who move back to the Northeast after having left for greener pastures. Another matter of taste, I guess. Like my relatives who moved back to NNJ cities because moves to Florida, (then to Ocean County's retirement sterility) didn't measure up to their expectations. They missed their old neighborhoods, friends, families, and city services. Others I know of have moved back, or plan to, from Arizona and from Las Vegas. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Cost of Events
In a message dated 10/11/2007 8:23:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Point, I hope we can get these cost figures. Transparency is key to good government in New Jersey. I'll put up $100 towards the cost of YOUR cameras if someone produces how dollars are allocated to what: Good Citizenship posts from Rook and Oakdorf. Inspires me to buy Janet Reno's new Song of America CD set. Really! Tavis had her on last night. _Click here: Amazon.com: Song of America: Music: Various Artists,Janet Reno,Ed Pettersen,David Macias,Bob Olhsson_ (http://www.amazon.com/Song-America-Various-Artists/dp/B000T3GK8O/ref=dp_return_2/102-6896512-3656910?ie=UTF8n=5174; s=musicqid=1192118979sr=8-1) Questions are the Answer. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. - Original Message From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review Hinge, You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. __ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
You're right Allan, it'll definitely appeal to certain groups because it's a safe location. I doubt it brings many to other points in Long Branch though. They've kind of created their own little suburb within the town. On Oct 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Allan Peterson wrote: All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. - Original Message From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review Hinge, You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. __ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR
Our downtown offers nothing for that group (people with expendable incomes). First we need the downtown to be open more often - Original Message From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:29:26 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: NYC Big Time PR --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: October 11, 2007 City's Virtues to Be Sold in New Global Ad Campaign By PATRICK McGEEHAN I worked on Madison ave for a short period next NYC Comp offices. Pier Village created a destination. How many times has my daughter hit me up or blown her paycheck at Pier - Greek to me, Sawa, Nirvanna or Jenna Molly or michael angleos...for the new kids, Pier V is hot. They are waiting for AP to lure them in, other then the Pony. Does the downtown bring in the 16-20 year olds? No - at least what I see. There is no draw for them. So will they be drawn here 4 years, 7 or 10 years from now - when things may be more built up?? Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
It's my opinion Allan, and I have friends who share the same opinion. That's the bottom line. It might not be the popular opinion, but I'm not going to keep my thoughts to myself when I have one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. - Original Message From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review Hinge, You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. - Original Message From: Hinge hinge98@ To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. __ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Downtown Marketing
I always wondered why we don't have any major signs telling people traveling on Main to turn into the downtown district. A lot of tourists going up and down the coast might not even know this area exists and just keep on going straight to somewhere else to spend their money. Really, for a few well placed signs, think how much traffic would be diverted into the district and down along the ocean. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: PR - Cole Porter included AP in a song
Covered by Sinatra, too. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it an earthquake or simply a shock? Is it the good turtle soup or merely the mock? Is it a cocktail, this feeling of joy? Or is what I feel the real mccoy? Is it for all time or simply a lark? Is it granada I see or only asbury park? Is it a fancy not worth thinking of? Or is it at long last love? Is it an earthquake, or simply a shock? Is it the good turtle soup, or is it merely the mock? Is it a cocktail, this feeling of joy? Or is what I feel the real mccoy? Is it for all time or simply a lark? Is it granada I see or only asbury park? Is it a fancy, not worth thinking of? Or is it at long long long last love? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
as one restaraunt guy in Pier V. was overheard saying to a worker = ...people don't come here because the foodthey are paying for the view He's successful despite himself. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
Hinge, I wonder if the majority of arts related people all feel the same way about Pier Village. My friends hate it as well. Of course, I also remember the old Long Branch boardwalk and stuff. I know that plays a role in how I feel about Pier Village, but mainly it's the fact that I think it's horribly ugly. On Oct 11, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Hinge wrote: It's my opinion Allan, and I have friends who share the same opinion. That's the bottom line. It might not be the popular opinion, but I'm not going to keep my thoughts to myself when I have one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. - Original Message From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review Hinge, You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. - Original Message From: Hinge hinge98@ To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. __ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 __ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right Allan, it'll definitely appeal to certain groups because it's a safe location. I doubt it brings many to other points in Long Branch though. They've kind of created their own little suburb within the town. Well it does bring people into other parts of town. Right down Broadway, thus the effort to get Broadway up and running. Kind of like if AP/Neptune cleaned up Asbury ave and Springwood - 2 gateways to the shore. 33 is now nearing completion and now its a matter of time for some of those properties to get cleaned up some more. Then the entire stretch of 35 from the circle to the belmar bridge. Go to Florida. Drive rt 1 from Ft. Lauderdale to S. Beach and keep on going. Drive through ft. meyers. orlando. Granted you can't see the ocean any more - but at least what you can see is clean. I rather see a couple nice strips or neighborhod centers with big green patches then 4 miles of half-ass buildings with broken cars, barbed wire fences and crap all over. Chelsea ave in long branch had to rank right up there with one of the worst street in monmouth county that had nice old large victorians chopped up. They made an attempt to bring the two sides of ocean ave together. theres plenty more growth left in long branch and asbury. start by enforcing clean and safe streets, housing violations and crime. Start with education. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Bullets strike house, garage in Asbury Park
Ok folks, read below carefully, and then think back to posts describing the technology of surveillence cameras installed in Newark and East Orange. These cameras have microphones on them that are directional, and can move the camera to focus on the area where the gunshots originated. This time, nobody was hit. The police have no description. The don't know where the shots were fired from. 8 spent shell casings. That could've been 8 dead people. Meanwhile, we have to wait for paperwork and bureacracy to go thru the motions. And people outside of Asbury will start condemming us once again. Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/11/07 BY MICHELLE SAHN Post Comment ASBURY PARK Police are trying to determine if someone fired a gun randomly or if that person was deliberately aiming at two boys when bullets struck a house and a garage on Church Street early this morning. No one was injured in the incident. Around 1 a.m., at least one bullet struck a house on the 600 block of Church Street and four more struck a garage on the same property, said Capt. David Kelso. He said police are trying to determine if the shooting was random or if two boys who were in the area at the time were the targets of the shooter. Kelso said police believe the shooter was on the street - not in a vehicle - but police have no description of that person. Police recovered eight spent shell casings, he said. Anyone with information is asked to call Detective Sgt. Randall Hill or Detective April Bird at (732) 775-4025. Information can also be left anonymously on the department's tip line at 1-800-799-8280. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
In a message dated 10/11/2007 3:02:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if the majority of arts related people all feel the same way about Pier Village. My friends hate it as well. Of course, I also remember the old Long Branch boardwalk and stuff. I know that plays a role in how I feel about Pier Village, but mainly it's the fact that I think it's horribly ugly. Anyone else out there agree with me that Max's hot dogs just don't taste as good as they did when Max's joint was on the LB boards? Maybe it was the saltwater spray and mist coming in from their old porch/deck that made a difference. Maybe it's just me. The Windmill's dogs and Cali burgers don't make it anymore either. Bring back Skee-Ball. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] PR - Cole Porter included AP in a song
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RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Recreation
Actually when I was a kid in Long Branch I was our block's pogo stick champion! The sad thing is now kids never go out to play---Every night we played dodge ball, hit the bat, hide and seek, jingle jump or had handmade go karts with no brakes we would ride to the bottom of the hill. That was such great fun! After walking to St Michaels Church on Sunday we would go to Takanassee Lake and with a stick, string, cork and a safety pin look for worms so we could spend the day fishing! Other days we would stick our little thumbs out and secretly hitchike to the Long Branch Boardwalk to play pinball. Sometimes we would explore the grounds of monmouth College or ride our bikes to Elberon Train Station for candy. I have such great memories of those days!No matter where we were the one important thing was Never Be Late For Dinner or you were in big trouble! From: "oakdorf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comTo: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: RecreationDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:32:01 - Anybody remember a pogo stick? denise is the only repsonse I got for the who should get money in AP:Pop Warner.Who needs the pogo stick?Between the 5 of us, I bet we'd all chip in. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park nj real estate United state flag Asbury park nj Asbury park real estate United state travel Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[AsburyPark] Re: PR - Cole Porter included AP in a song
Well, we are talking about events long before my time. You know...you're time. ;-) /snickers //runs away --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Covered by Sinatra, too. He sung it, Cole wrote it. How'd you think I would even know of it if it was not for Ol Blue Eyes? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Celebrate New Jersey, Redux
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:30:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May God have mercy on New Jersey. I Celebrate New Jersey: A wise elder once said upon your death you will be in the Kingdom of whom you celebrate and venerate. As for me and my house we will worship the Lord. As for this clown, he will stay in New Jersey in his next life. He who celebrate a dieing thing shall die in it's celebration. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: PR - Cole Porter included AP in a song
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Covered by Sinatra, too. He sung it, Cole wrote it. How'd you think I would even know of it if it was not for Ol Blue Eyes? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation
Debbie, I didn't know I had a sister! I did virtually all the same things you did. Your post brought back memories. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Celebrate New Jersey, Redux
Feste the Clown:He is but mad yet, madonna; and the fool shall look to the madman. But indeed words are very rascals since bonds disgraced them. Viola.Thy reason, man?Feste the Clown. Troth, sir, I can yield you none without words; and words are grown so false, I am loath to prove reason with them. Viola.This fellow is wise enough to play the fool; And to do that well craves a kind of wit: This is a practise As full of labour as a wise man's art For folly that he wisely shows is fit; But wise men, folly-fall'n, quite taint their wit.Twelfth Night = In a message dated 10/11/2007 4:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:30:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May God have mercy on New Jersey. I Celebrate New Jersey: A wise elder once said upon your death you will be in the Kingdom of whom you celebrate and venerate. As for me and my house we will worship the Lord. As for this clown, he will stay in New Jersey in his next life. He who celebrate a dieing thing shall die in it's celebration.
[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debbie, I didn't know I had a sister! I did virtually all the same things you did. Your post brought back memories. better all get out of our mid-life crisis real soon otherwise we'll be fighting over who gets an ocean view at Asbury Towers. How many of you are still using a pc vs. a mac. Took me a long time til one night I was at the apple store with my daughter and she pointed at the pc guy on a poster and laughed. Now I just need an mac computer case to carry it to work and I can dump this old pc. I should have the mud puddle picture tomorrow. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation
Mac all the way --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Debbie, I didn't know I had a sister! I did virtually all the same things you did. Your post brought back memories. better all get out of our mid-life crisis real soon otherwise we'll be fighting over who gets an ocean view at Asbury Towers. How many of you are still using a pc vs. a mac. Took me a long time til one night I was at the apple store with my daughter and she pointed at the pc guy on a poster and laughed. Now I just need an mac computer case to carry it to work and I can dump this old pc. I should have the mud puddle picture tomorrow. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Debbie, I didn't know I had a sister! I did virtually all the same things you did. Your post brought back memories. better all get out of our mid-life crisis real soon otherwise we'll be fighting over who gets an ocean view at Asbury Towers. How many of you are still using a pc vs. a mac. = Why choose? I've got both :-) Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Coaster Article About Regionalizing Asbury Park Fire Services With Others
Chief Keddy, Reidy and Bruno favor the move. This is great news. We should all get behind this effort. Consolidating fire services is absolutely necessary for this city to do in order to right itself from the budget deficits. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Celebrate New Jersey, Redux
aptly put by someone tagged Machinegun Message Mario. I guess the political experiment failed and you have decided to decend upon the good posters here. One thing was proven, in your absence it was peaceful here. LOL a fossor insania KB --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feste the Clown:He is but mad yet, madonna; and the fool shall look to the madman. But indeed words are very rascals since bonds disgraced them. Viola.Thy reason, man?Feste the Clown. Troth, sir, I can yield you none without words; and words are grown so false, I am loath to prove reason with them. Viola.This fellow is wise enough to play the fool; And to do that well craves a kind of wit: This is a practise As full of labour as a wise man's art For folly that he wisely shows is fit; But wise men, folly-fall'n, quite taint their wit.Twelfth Night = In a message dated 10/11/2007 4:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark% 40yahoogroups.com , MarioAPNJ@ wrote: In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:30:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jerseykev@ writes: May God have mercy on New Jersey. I Celebrate New Jersey: A wise elder once said upon your death you will be in the Kingdom of whom you celebrate and venerate. As for me and my house we will worship the Lord. As for this clown, he will stay in New Jersey in his next life. He who celebrate a dieing thing shall die in it's celebration. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Bullets strike house, garage in Asbury Park
Bump. This is important stuff. We need to put the pressure on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok folks, read below carefully, and then think back to posts describing the technology of surveillence cameras installed in Newark and East Orange. These cameras have microphones on them that are directional, and can move the camera to focus on the area where the gunshots originated. This time, nobody was hit. The police have no description. The don't know where the shots were fired from. 8 spent shell casings. That could've been 8 dead people. Meanwhile, we have to wait for paperwork and bureacracy to go thru the motions. And people outside of Asbury will start condemming us once again. Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/11/07 BY MICHELLE SAHN Post Comment ASBURY PARK Police are trying to determine if someone fired a gun randomly or if that person was deliberately aiming at two boys when bullets struck a house and a garage on Church Street early this morning. No one was injured in the incident. Around 1 a.m., at least one bullet struck a house on the 600 block of Church Street and four more struck a garage on the same property, said Capt. David Kelso. He said police are trying to determine if the shooting was random or if two boys who were in the area at the time were the targets of the shooter. Kelso said police believe the shooter was on the street - not in a vehicle - but police have no description of that person. Police recovered eight spent shell casings, he said. Anyone with information is asked to call Detective Sgt. Randall Hill or Detective April Bird at (732) 775-4025. Information can also be left anonymously on the department's tip line at 1-800-799-8280. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. What was there before drew many more people, Kid's World and The Pier were a bigger magnet than Pier Village. You also didn't see the code enforcement officer's ex felon defunct Police Officer working as a manager where a liquor lisence was in the old days. I also hear this official's wife is also working there as well. Pier Village was built while it's owner Joe Barry, was in Federal Pen for bribing an elected official. Now out making millions. Pier Village is an embarrassment to Long Branchers. Unfortunately, like wounded knee it may take close to a century to find out just how unconstitutional it all really was. To The Lakota Nation To pOletown and to those in Long Branch who suffered. ci' ami Rafferty's should be a great success. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
collecting what? They have abatements and our taxes just went up more than 150%. It is an economic failure. KB --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. - Original Message From: Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review Hinge, You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. - Original Message From: Hinge hinge98@ To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. __ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 __ __ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
My dog is named Lakota! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. - Original Message From: Hinge hinge98@ To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. I loved it. The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly with dignity. Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the lack of parking annoying. When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. What was there before drew many more people, Kid's World and The Pier were a bigger magnet than Pier Village. You also didn't see the code enforcement officer's ex felon defunct Police Officer working as a manager where a liquor lisence was in the old days. I also hear this official's wife is also working there as well. Pier Village was built while it's owner Joe Barry, was in Federal Pen for bribing an elected official. Now out making millions. Pier Village is an embarrassment to Long Branchers. Unfortunately, like wounded knee it may take close to a century to find out just how unconstitutional it all really was. To The Lakota Nation To pOletown and to those in Long Branch who suffered. ci' ami Rafferty's should be a great success. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
My dog is called Kicking Bird. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dog is named Lakota! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many of you are still using a pc vs. a mac. pc since most programs including special ones are windows based. I don't like either. don't use explorer or outlook express anymore. use firefox and thunderbird, but some applications still require explorer. someday soon it will all be open platforms (Linux) and less buggy. That goes for mac too. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Follow The Leader
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- and the armory is a perfect exmample. Purchased right, lots of politics, lots of PRIVATE money supported by a person with interests in the sport. === And just think, Asbury Park had Ron Berman, a developer from Trenton, with a track record of historic property rehab wanting to develop the Casino. He owns a Minor League hockey team (Trenton Titans ?) and would have had them in play in the Casino Arena. Lost opportunity because of Weldon's 'Dealing' Werner Werner, The people in charge now, want everything their way! I saw the arena, wehn it was a hole in the ground! Met the mayor of Trenton and had a great time. Trenton is thriving, Jersey City is thriving, Asbury Park; holding on, for dear life! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stoner: It's Make-Believe Ballroom Time
The pleasure is all mine! This think-tank of a group, is a real world, eye-opener! I leave myself, wide open, because I genuinely believe and dream a world, where everyone lives in a town, called Perfect! I just finished reading about what kids really do now, and I see them evolving into wide loads, if you know what I mean! As much as I love the grandkids, I can't wait for them to leave, so that I can run this disk-cleaner, that wipes face-book and those other wierd sites and their cookies, OFF of my hard drive and if I hear Soulja Boy, ONE more time, I'll RETCH! Hinge: JUST SAY NO! You cracked me up, because I know most of the young people who starred in CLERKS and MALL-RATS! Before the movies, I always thought they should have been on Second City, or SNL! Man, do the screen-play, no, write the book, first! I wasn't a perfect parent, none of us are, you know. I learned as I went along and when I saw myself becoming my mother, I did just the opposite! It worked! I never wanted to be a MU-MU wearing mom! My Grandma wore them and I hated the look! Me? I wear the I can wear you outdoors, pajamas! They look like pantsuits, except the waist is elasticized! A modern version of the what? MU-MU! I look like I'm on my way to yoga, class! Oh man, teen drinking, has been going on since Roman Times, I guess! One afternoon, after being released from school, just after lunch, instead of going home, I went to my friends, who were a set of fraternal twins, home and into the basement we went, to play records and what else? DRINK! Drinking for us, (16), was Creme de Cocoa, Anisette or Creme de Menthe! Cordials! It's what nice girls drank in polite company. Drinking was part of my French Culture. At 2 weeks old, at my christening, I was given a sip of pink Champagne! I gave the same to my kids, at theirs! Just to wet their lips! It is a tradition and wine served at meals were no big deal! Here in NJ, I would NEVER do these things! Now, I could land in jail! I'm talking about the mid-60's, when all this occurred. My children never had to sneak alcohol and when they reached legal age, here, in NJ, didn't even bother with it. We lived on a hill, that had hair-pin turns, so no drinking and driving either! I had heard of too many cars, not making those curves, killing several people, up there. You only have to tell me once! If we DO get the surveillance cameras, ALL crime will go down, so I wonder just how relevant it is to the authorities? Job security, you know! I saw the Mounties on patrol on Channel 4! Yes, AP made the nightly news and the 2 Dobbins, were walking up Cookman Ave. Now, really! What's the purpose? Oh God, I feel the taser, already! Okay, enough! With her eye-brows raised, she said, COMMENTS? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharon, thank you. Now that I've basked in that glow for an hour or so, it's time to quickly pass the baton to one of the others on your honor roll. Zeus is known to throw his thunderbolts at mortals hanging out at Club Olympus too long. By Jove, grab it someone. Sharon writes: Frank D, ...Hinge... Werner and Maureen...Dan and short salespro, Tikkun Olam Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Celebrate New Jersey, Redux
In a message dated 10/11/2007 7:12:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: aptly put by someone tagged Machinegun Message Mario. No,...the words are Shakespeare's. You chose to call me a clown for my appreciation of life in New Jeresy, and for not parroting your complaints about it. I responded with Feste's words, the fellow wise enough to play the fool.BTW: Who is the unnamed wise elder whose words you failed to attribute, but which you applied to me as one whose death will be appropriate to one who celebrates a dieing [sic] thing?[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing was proven, in your absence it was peaceful here. LOL Feste the Clown: Truly, sir, and pleasure will be paid, one time or anotherAnd thus the whirligig of time brings in his [responses]. In a message dated 10/11/2007 7:12:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: aptly put by someone tagged Machinegun Message Mario. I guess the political experiment failed and you have decided to decend upon the good posters here. One thing was proven, in your absence it was peaceful here. LOL a fossor insania KB --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com , Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feste the Clown: He is but mad yet, madonna; and the fool shall look to the madman. But indeed words are very rascals since bonds disgraced them. Viola. Thy reason, man? Feste the Clown. Troth, sir, I can yield you none without words; and words are grown so false, I am loath to prove reason with them. Viola. This fellow is wise enough to play the fool; And to do that well craves a kind of wit: This is a practise As full of labour as a wise man's art For folly that he wisely shows is fit; But wise men, folly-fall'n, quite taint their wit. Twelfth Night = In a message dated 10/11/2007 4:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark% 40yahoogroups.com , MarioAPNJ@ wrote: In a message dated 10/11/2007 11:30:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jerseykev@ writes: May God have mercy on New Jersey. I Celebrate New Jersey:
