Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
Have you stopped and asked yourself WHY the sprinkler system hasn't worked in years, WHY the fountain is broken and has been used as an open air bathroom and garbage receptacle, WHY drugs are freely bought and sold in and around the park? Could the answer possibly be that the city, i.e.. the maintenance department and police department, have not cleaned/patrolled the park? Given the past history of the park and the lack of care to maintain and keep the vagrants and drug dealers out of there, what makes you think that the dogs will make a difference in how the city maintains the park? The problems that exist in the park will not be solved by the dogs! On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Hinge wrote: The sprinkler system that your organization installed hasn't worked in years. The dog park is exactly what is needed, because it's main use for the past 7 years that I've lived adjacent to it is a place where drugs are bought and sold, street people use it as a open air bathroom, and the fountain is broken and used as a garbage receptacle. The dog park will breath life into Liberty Square Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@... wrote: As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes! Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park Historical Society [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
If the park is such a valued and cherished area of the Historical Society (I use that term very loosely) how come none of it members are patrolling it and cleaning it like other organizations do for the other green spaces in the city? I regularly patrol/clean up a green space by my home and I don't belong to any association. Sometimes if you want things done right you have to do them yourselves Your argument is flawed, has very little merit. By no means will the WHOLE park be consumed by a dog park. That's silly. The dog beach is not open to animals during the day. Yappy Hour is once/twice a week. Have you ever been to a dog park? You talk as if they're filled with feces and just plain dirty. In 25yrs of owning dogs and bringing them to dog parks, I have yet to see that You assume the dog owners who want this are lazy. Have you ever walked in AP at 7am? Do it, no one is lazy. Dog parks are not intended to be a shit/piss fest or for exercise, they are for socialization, like a bar or coffee shop for humans (you should try one sometime) And for your society to install things and expect others to maintain them is in fact LAZY Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatk...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: Robert Thoman byline4...@optonline.net Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 06:55:21 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park Have you stopped and asked yourself WHY the sprinkler system hasn't worked in years, WHY the fountain is broken and has been used as an open air bathroom and garbage receptacle, WHY drugs are freely bought and sold in and around the park? Could the answer possibly be that the city, i.e.. the maintenance department and police department, have not cleaned/patrolled the park? Given the past history of the park and the lack of care to maintain and keep the vagrants and drug dealers out of there, what makes you think that the dogs will make a difference in how the city maintains the park? The problems that exist in the park will not be solved by the dogs! On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Hinge wrote: The sprinkler system that your organization installed hasn't worked in years. The dog park is exactly what is needed, because it's main use for the past 7 years that I've lived adjacent to it is a place where drugs are bought and sold, street people use it as a open air bathroom, and the fountain is broken and used as a garbage receptacle. The dog park will breath life into Liberty Square Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@... wrote: As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes! Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park Historical Society [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
The city does a great job of keeping the park clean. And the city has quiet a fewother problem areas that need police attention. The park is ignored by the general public for some very simple reasons. First off, there's nor a single park bench there. Secondly, because it's so unused by the general public, the street people who spend time in it scare people away. And that's exactly why the dog loving community will bring new life to the park. An empty park invites trouble. Now, the park will have a reason to attract people. More people will make the park less attractive for misuse. I'm sorry, but your organization is completely out of touch with the reality of dog parks, and their benefits. If you are going to have a negative opinion about something you obviously know nothing about, then I suggest you do some research and educate yourselves. Like I said, you should go and visit the dog park in Oceanport. It's big, beautiful, and clean, and it attracts a wonderful community of people. Library Square Park, as it stands today attracts nobody. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@... wrote: Have you stopped and asked yourself WHY the sprinkler system hasn't worked in years, WHY the fountain is broken and has been used as an open air bathroom and garbage receptacle, WHY drugs are freely bought and sold in and around the park? Could the answer possibly be that the city, i.e.. the maintenance department and police department, have not cleaned/patrolled the park? Given the past history of the park and the lack of care to maintain and keep the vagrants and drug dealers out of there, what makes you think that the dogs will make a difference in how the city maintains the park? The problems that exist in the park will not be solved by the dogs! On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Hinge wrote: The sprinkler system that your organization installed hasn't worked in years. The dog park is exactly what is needed, because it's main use for the past 7 years that I've lived adjacent to it is a place where drugs are bought and sold, street people use it as a open air bathroom, and the fountain is broken and used as a garbage receptacle. The dog park will breath life into Liberty Square Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@ wrote: As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes! Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park Historical Society [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
I am on the fence about the dog park in Library Sq but I will give it a chance. I guess its selfishness since only a few of us dog owners use it now. I walk my little guy off the leash across streets etc. He probably wont want to go into the penned area but I will give it a chance and see what sort of control other owners have over their dogs. I believe in leash laws but your dog should be trained off leash as well. Many of the seniors from Phillips Seaview walk their dogs in LS. It is such a beautiful place and yes, I wish the fountain and lights would have held up. I know a great deal of money was spent there. BTW, city maintenance does a great job. What I am wondering about is its placement. Is it going to be the whole triangle on the east side bordering Heck? There are plaques and monuments there. I let Ray and Tony's two sons run freely there when we walk Louie. But, let's give it a chance. It's a pilot program. Most dog owners are great, but I hope we do not get folks who breed pit bulls and really do not care or train them. That's not a knock against pits, I know lovely ones and there are no bad dogs, only bad owners. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: The city does a great job of keeping the park clean. And the city has quiet a fewother problem areas that need police attention. The park is ignored by the general public for some very simple reasons. First off, there's nor a single park bench there. Secondly, because it's so unused by the general public, the street people who spend time in it scare people away. And that's exactly why the dog loving community will bring new life to the park. An empty park invites trouble. Now, the park will have a reason to attract people. More people will make the park less attractive for misuse. I'm sorry, but your organization is completely out of touch with the reality of dog parks, and their benefits. If you are going to have a negative opinion about something you obviously know nothing about, then I suggest you do some research and educate yourselves. Like I said, you should go and visit the dog park in Oceanport. It's big, beautiful, and clean, and it attracts a wonderful community of people. Library Square Park, as it stands today attracts nobody. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@ wrote: Have you stopped and asked yourself WHY the sprinkler system hasn't worked in years, WHY the fountain is broken and has been used as an open air bathroom and garbage receptacle, WHY drugs are freely bought and sold in and around the park? Could the answer possibly be that the city, i.e.. the maintenance department and police department, have not cleaned/patrolled the park? Given the past history of the park and the lack of care to maintain and keep the vagrants and drug dealers out of there, what makes you think that the dogs will make a difference in how the city maintains the park? The problems that exist in the park will not be solved by the dogs! On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Hinge wrote: The sprinkler system that your organization installed hasn't worked in years. The dog park is exactly what is needed, because it's main use for the past 7 years that I've lived adjacent to it is a place where drugs are bought and sold, street people use it as a open air bathroom, and the fountain is broken and used as a garbage receptacle. The dog park will breath life into Liberty Square Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@ wrote: As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
The park as a space is a failure in current day Asbury Park. It's not a destination for anyone, it's an avoidance. The value of the park (or any park for that matter) is for the people who have the right to use it as a public space and with its current reputation, it's not very welcoming. Currently and for a long while it hasn't been a great space... when something doesn't work it needs to be fixed. The layout of the park wont change and the entire space is remaining as a park. So a part of the lawn won't be there... what part of the population will that upset? Now instead there will be a great reason for people to want to spend time there. Asbury Park is a great community for dogs and dog owners... being that not only the animals, but the people who own them, are an important part of the community they should absolutely have a right to the space. Progress and preservation don't need to always be enemies. The give and take here is fairly simple. Give the dogs and their owners a great public space and they'll give back to the community by making a space a wonderful place to spend time. The park's historical glory will only return when the people come to cherish the space again. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@... wrote: Have you stopped and asked yourself WHY the sprinkler system hasn't worked in years, WHY the fountain is broken and has been used as an open air bathroom and garbage receptacle, WHY drugs are freely bought and sold in and around the park? Could the answer possibly be that the city, i.e.. the maintenance department and police department, have not cleaned/patrolled the park? Given the past history of the park and the lack of care to maintain and keep the vagrants and drug dealers out of there, what makes you think that the dogs will make a difference in how the city maintains the park? The problems that exist in the park will not be solved by the dogs! On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:51 PM, Hinge wrote: The sprinkler system that your organization installed hasn't worked in years. The dog park is exactly what is needed, because it's main use for the past 7 years that I've lived adjacent to it is a place where drugs are bought and sold, street people use it as a open air bathroom, and the fountain is broken and used as a garbage receptacle. The dog park will breath life into Liberty Square Park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
suggestion: Seasonal special public works employees - kind of like special cops I had the fund of driving my mother in law's car back from florida a few weeks ago - ALONE. I took advantage of it - I stopped in Savannah at night, woke up early and took a 3 hour self-guided tour of the squares. Each square about the size of library park. At 6:30 am - there were a few folks sleeping or hanging out in the the parks - by 9 am, I saw many what I would guess were type of job corp people with rakes, leaf blowers etc cleaning up the leaves etc - early in the morning, it may not be what you expect when you here about Savannah - but they seemed to be putting people to work. Mind you, there were still a few people sleeping on the benches around noon when I headed out. The city once again I read is looking for programs or has programs and funding to put kids or adults to work. WELL - nothing wrong with learning about trees, shrubs, grass, installing sprinklers etc. You can train some kids or adults and it;s a JOB. Special Park employee. Take some of the cash from the parking authority. On Sprinklers, I get all my stuff from sprinklerwarehouse.com saved a ton of cash on parts and installation/repair. A guy hit me $375 once for a valve that I picked up for $81.00 and did it myself (plus fixed the kooky tie in he did so if goes again I can replace it in 3 minutes). It's pretty basic - water line into valve and long as there is power for the timers. The heads are cheap. And if someone was able to raise $60k, well good for them. At least the money went ot a cause - now to figure out how ti maintain it and enhance even more. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
my dog was attacked by a pit last week - my apparent drug dealing neighbors here in OT. My dog on my yard - off leash and their maniac that can only walk at night - apparently got off his leash (a chain). My dog more or less unhurt (just scared ) trip to Asbury Vet neighbor comes over next day to tell me that it wasn't their dog's fault - my dog was off a leash. I had a tenant that had what turned out 3 little pit puppies in one year they chewed through a wood door with glass panels and attacked a neighbor's kid. I do believe as well the owner is part of the problem. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
My pitbull is a therapy dog...lives w/two shihtzu's who terrorize him. He's actually an American Staffordshire. Everyone around here knows him. He used to put on a show for people at the green space at 5th and Locust and Bridge.he'd climb the trees. Six feet up or so. Then he blew out both knees. 9K later, he doesn't climb trees anymore. Just goes to hospitals and plays with my little nieces. I've owned pits for 18yrs. They are not for everyone. In the wrong hands they can cause problems, mainly backyard breeders and music videos have hurt the breed. As many pitbulls as there are in Asbury, I have rarely come across any aggressive ones. I could go on for days advocating for them, but in the same breath I understand ones reservations. Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatk...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 00:31:39 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park my dog was attacked by a pit last week - my apparent drug dealing neighbors here in OT. My dog on my yard - off leash and their maniac that can only walk at night - apparently got off his leash (a chain). My dog more or less unhurt (just scared ) trip to Asbury Vet neighbor comes over next day to tell me that it wasn't their dog's fault - my dog was off a leash. I had a tenant that had what turned out 3 little pit puppies in one year they chewed through a wood door with glass panels and attacked a neighbor's kid. I do believe as well the owner is part of the problem. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
its already a dog park - for Louie --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburysteve@... wrote: Councilwoman Sue Henderson put forth a proposal at last night's City Council Meeting to create a Dog Park in a portion of Library Square Park located at Asbury, Grand 1st Avenues and Heck Street. Local resident Rachel Hirschfeld, one of Asbury Park's great dog ambassadors, made the presentation. The City Council passed a resolution to try it out. Only in Asbury Park! Steve Herman, 805 6th ave, AP [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
The sprinkler system that your organization installed hasn't worked in years. The dog park is exactly what is needed, because it's main use for the past 7 years that I've lived adjacent to it is a place where drugs are bought and sold, street people use it as a open air bathroom, and the fountain is broken and used as a garbage receptical. The dog park will breath life into Liberty Square Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thoman byline4336@... wrote: As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes! Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park Historical Society Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park
Also, dogs aren't permitted at the beach area from May until Sept. We dog owners will do our own cleaning up, exactly the way it's done at The Wolf Hill dog park in Oceanport. Your organization should take a field trip there to see how clean and beautiful it is. It would probably change your mind completely. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: You mad? Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatkins@... -Original Message- From: Robert Thoman byline4336@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:21:47 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Cc: Dolly Sterneskydsternesky@...; Teddy ChomkoChomkoT@...; TROPRJ@... TroppoliTROPRJ@...; jimhenry100@... HenryJimHenry100@...; Antic Haysales@...; cmorrissette@... Morrissettecmorrissette@...; davidsobotka@... Sobotkadavidsobotka@... Subject: [AsburyPark] Dog Park As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes! Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park Historical Society [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park YMCA
Dear Mr. Thoman; Library Park is truly a beautiful park and lovely setting; however, it doesn't seem to the serve the community as a whole since it is all too often occupied by those who vandalize that which you have worked so hard to improve. It actually might be best for the preservation of its partial beauty to host the canine community and its owners in the lovely oasis so that just through their abundant presence more citizens will take notice and will enjoy the park; as well, mischievous conduct will be deterred. I personally thought the Grand Ave religious organizations fine Churches would get more involved with Library Park; however, that does not seem to be so, given that most special occasion photo ops occur on the boardwalk. Just curious, i watched the slicing of original relief on the Young Mens Christian building this past weekend recently purchased by johnny mac co., does the historic society have an opinion or suggest control on what can be destroyed on such a historic building? Thanks for your patience to my obvious lack of knowledge of your efforts. Kindly, Reggie On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Hinge wrote: Also, dogs aren't permitted at the beach area from May until Sept. We dog owners will do our own cleaning up, exactly the way it's done at The Wolf Hill dog park in Oceanport. Your organization should take a field trip there to see how clean and beautiful it is. It would probably change your mind completely. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: You mad? Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatkins@... -Original Message- From: Robert Thoman byline4336@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:21:47 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Cc: Dolly Sterneskydsternesky@...; Teddy ChomkoChomkoT@...; TROPRJ@... TroppoliTROPRJ@...; jimhenry100@... HenryJimHenry100@...; Antic Haysales@...; cmorrissette@... Morrissettecmorrissette@...; davidsobotka@... Sobotkadavidsobotka@... Subject: [AsburyPark] Dog Park As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes! Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park Historical Society [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Dog Park YMCA
Cameras. Your dog poops and only you and your dog are there. You give that funny look around, don't pick it up cause your too lazy and think no one saw it and walk away. The Poop Cam gets you. I've seen people on dog beach walk away from their dog's poop - but a majority pick it up. Make sure all dogs have a license. Can't even get into the WB on doggie days without a WB Dog id I think. Other then a few paranoid dog owners every now and then, most of the dog owners I met on the beach are a great bunch as are their dogs. They should also consider making dog beach or a smaller section of it a full day instead of cutting it off @ 9 am. It's a great PR bit as well. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, \Reggie\ Regine Flimlin regineflimlin@... wrote: Dear Mr. Thoman; Library Park is truly a beautiful park and lovely setting; however, it doesn't seem to the serve the community as a whole since it is all too often occupied by those who vandalize that which you have worked so hard to improve. It actually might be best for the preservation of its partial beauty to host the canine community and its owners in the lovely oasis so that just through their abundant presence more citizens will take notice and will enjoy the park; as well, mischievous conduct will be deterred. I personally thought the Grand Ave religious organizations fine Churches would get more involved with Library Park; however, that does not seem to be so, given that most special occasion photo ops occur on the boardwalk. Just curious, i watched the slicing of original relief on the Young Mens Christian building this past weekend recently purchased by johnny mac co., does the historic society have an opinion or suggest control on what can be destroyed on such a historic building? Thanks for your patience to my obvious lack of knowledge of your efforts. Kindly, Reggie On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Hinge wrote: Also, dogs aren't permitted at the beach area from May until Sept. We dog owners will do our own cleaning up, exactly the way it's done at The Wolf Hill dog park in Oceanport. Your organization should take a field trip there to see how clean and beautiful it is. It would probably change your mind completely. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: You mad? Thank you, C. Brian Watkins cbrianwatkins@ -Original Message- From: Robert Thoman byline4336@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:21:47 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Cc: Dolly Sterneskydsternesky@; Teddy ChomkoChomkoT@; TROPRJ@ TroppoliTROPRJ@; jimhenry100@ HenryJimHenry100@; Antic Haysales@; cmorrissette@ Morrissettecmorrissette@; davidsobotka@ Sobotkadavidsobotka@ Subject: [AsburyPark] Dog Park As a member of the Asbury Park Historical Society, I among the majority of others on the Board of Directors, listened to Rachel Hirchfeld's presentation to the Board a few months ago touting the virtues of having a dog park located in a section of Library Park. Having spent in excess of $60,000 dollars to bring the park back to its former glory which included restoration of the fountain, putting in a sprinkling system to water the many hedges and plants and trees we planted, we informed Ms Hirchfeld that as a group we were not in favor of setting aside a portion of the park for the dogs of Asbury since there already is a portion of the beach set aside for the dog's socialization as she called it. The park historically was intended for the use of the people of Asbury, not for its canine population. We are vehemently opposed to turning this historical property over to those who view it as a dumping grounds for the use of dog-owners and their pets who, perhaps, are too lazy to walk their pets to the beach area! We wanted to know who would be responsible for cleaning up the dog-droppings, maintaining the set-aside area, paying for the installation of fences around the designated area, etc. Ms. Hirchfeld said that would be determined as plans for the dog area progressed and invited us to appoint members of the historical society to the planning board. Teddy Chomko and I volunteered to serve on that committee, but as of today, we have not heard a word from the committee. Now, it seems, the plans for the dog part have have been approved by the council to try it out. Thanks again, Asbury Park City Council, for including the Historical Society in the decision making process!! Even though we were instrumental in bringing the park back from oblivion, you have chosen to ignore our work and our wishes! Sincerely, Robert Thoman, member of the Executive Board, Asbury Park Historical Society [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park, Europe the future
Yep ... good post. Upward and onward. The lifeguards are much busier now than five years ago ... BG ... what did the Captain bark at me once when I was on the beach about two years ago in July ... ASBURY IS BACK! BG. Yep it is ... if all we can do know is cry about some copper panels on some buidling ... this is good ... if this is the main issue this week ... BG. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Dave dsher4@... wrote: With all due respect to Hinge and Werner (both of whom i respect for their posts, intelligence, knowledge and passion about the town, particularly werner who is extremely knowledgable on a number of topics), it is important that we realize that Asbury is not continental Europe and that ironically is a good thing. While gorgeous in architecture and history, the socialistic aspects of Europe have effectively brought the continent to its knees in a terrible financial crisis that in many ways is far worse than the housing situation that we went through here. The crisis in that content will continue to plague them for years to come and while all of us love Europe for its splendor, it is unfortunately a great place to visit but one who's future is troubled by its financial situation which will be an albatross for years to come. I too wish that Asbury could be completely restored to its former splendor. However, i am also aware that i have to balance that desire with the pragmatic aspects of the current and the future. Both in regard to economics and social change. While historic theatre's are romantic and whimsical to think about, we live in a world of iPod's and Facebook. Sometimes change is scary but it is a part of moving forward in history. Just like Asbury was transformative in its beginning, it should be so again. When reading the history books, the town was forward thinking with indoor air conditioning in the paramount or a train line over sunset bridge that took patrons downtown for shopping. in the 1920's this was futuristic stuff. We need to think about what is forward thinking now and attempt to tie it appropriately to our past. One size does not fit all. I for one think the town is on a very promising path of resurgence. Asbury has done extremely well though a brutal economic downturn. With no help from a very failed redevelopment plan, the town has found a way to claw itself further along house by house, business by business. Crime is obviously a very serious problem and one that needs to be addressed. So where do we go from here. Importantly, the economy is starting to rebound and the housing market has found its bottom although their is likely to be a shallow upturn rather than a resurgence. As werner has talked about i think the town's resurgence has its roots in music and entertainment. I'm glad bamboozle is coming to Asbury and anything we can do to promote both music and entertainment should be applauded how can we blend the past and the future? While i agree with Werner that the loss of some of the historical treasures are a tragedy, i also realize that the economic realities made it so. that being said, i think the historical artifacts and building that are left such as convention hall or the beautiful casino building should be brought back to their historical glory. This is an enormous economic undertaking and needs to be considered in light of reformation in the context of a return on invested capital. Even back in the 1920's, the architects of the buildings did not think they were going to be built for beauty alone without form of purpose. I am a bit discouraged regarding the posts i read on this site. I find that every post is castigating madison marquette for all of their transgressions. I want to say that i have zero affiliation with madison marquette and only have spoken to their representatives over an errant vodka soda one summer evening. i agree they have made some mistakes but as a homeowner in this town i am thrilled that they are here, undertaking an enormous monetary investment and trying to bring the town back in spite of its challenges. I know that given the circumstances most people would have cut bait at this point considering the investment and I for one am glad MM has not. I'm not sure what the alternative is. It's always easy to criticize but always more difficult to offer solutions. I'm not sure if anyone from Madison marquette reads this board. Or if any of the more involved citizens of Asbury would be willing to get involved. I think it would be a great idea to bring together an ad hoc group to discuss potential improvements to the redevelopment and or town under the concept of cooperation and not attack... effectively a brain storming group where no idea was stupid and attacks on the past, future or status quo were avoided in lieu of ideas about what could be better. With an
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bartender Mix-Off
Thanks for letting me know. That's too bad- my bartender friend was looking forward to competing again. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, joeybea...@yahoo.com joeybearnj@... wrote: I called MM and they are not having it this year. It was a surprise to me as well. Joey Schweigert 1306 Monroe Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bartender Mix-Off
I called MM and they are not having it this year. It was a surprise to me as well. Joey Schweigert 1306 Monroe Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park High's football team
My lasy sentence was cut off..it should have read Our city can be proud of kids like Corey who turned it aound in the classroom and made a difference on the field. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mkdown13 mkdown13@... wrote: Just wanted to put this out there for the AP Group I think we all agree that Asbury Park is a city in transition and that many improvements are needed on a number of fronts. But some times we get so focused on which restaurants are opening and closing, crime, the parking issues, the city government, etc, that we miss little news stories that highlight some of the good things that happen in town. On Saturday, Asbury Park High's football team beat Florence 42-18 to win the Group 1 championship our team may be smaller than most others it plays against and usually outnumbered, but the heart, soul, and passion of this team is incredible (it was especially touching to see the kids holding up the photo of John Key their coach who was killed earlier this season out of love and respect for someone who tried to make a difference with these kids). Our city can be proud of kids like Corey who turned it around in the classroom and made a difference on the field. http://www.app.com/article/20111203/NJSPORTS0110/312030047/Goodson-makes-up-missed-time Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park High's football team
The team is OFFICIALLY a CNJ Group 1 dynasty I didn't miss a home game this year, got to 1 away game. I have watched their games since they won the first one with Coach Don, and I didn't think this years team would do it, but man did they look crisp against a good Florence team Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: mkdown13 mkdow...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:19:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park High's football team My lasy sentence was cut off..it should have read Our city can be proud of kids like Corey who turned it aound in the classroom and made a difference on the field. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mkdown13 mkdown13@... wrote: Just wanted to put this out there for the AP Group I think we all agree that Asbury Park is a city in transition and that many improvements are needed on a number of fronts. But some times we get so focused on which restaurants are opening and closing, crime, the parking issues, the city government, etc, that we miss little news stories that highlight some of the good things that happen in town. On Saturday, Asbury Park High's football team beat Florence 42-18 to win the Group 1 championship our team may be smaller than most others it plays against and usually outnumbered, but the heart, soul, and passion of this team is incredible (it was especially touching to see the kids holding up the photo of John Key their coach who was killed earlier this season out of love and respect for someone who tried to make a difference with these kids). Our city can be proud of kids like Corey who turned it around in the classroom and made a difference on the field. http://www.app.com/article/20111203/NJSPORTS0110/312030047/Goodson-makes-up-missed-time [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
Yeah, I had parts stolen off my bike a few years ago. Last night, a neighbor of mine who constantly makes the mistake of locking her bike to a telephone pole also had her front wheel stolen, and it's her only transportation. What can be done about this? Obviously parents aren't wondering where their kids are getting all of their bikes and bike parts. Maybe the city should require everybody to register their bikes, just like they do with dog licenses. If a kid is caught riding a bike without a sticker, impound it. If it's found to be stolen, arrest the little shit heads. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Huge problem right now? That's what they told me 3yrs ago when I had 3bikes stolen in 8days (recovered 2 of the 3, one bike the following day in front of my house, and my vintage rat rod 5 MONTHS LATER) A teacher in APHS who lives down the street from, has told us on several occasions these kids consider any bike in AP theirs. She also told us 90% of the bikes we see these kids on are stolen I have had a kid tell me to my face while on my vintage 1970 ross apollo that he was gonna take that shit right from me Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:05:48 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park bicycle thieves Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
One measure we, (as the potential victims) can take is to make sure we write down the bikes serial numbers I have all of my bikes serial numbers along with corresponding pictures of them as well I would never leave a bike locked up outside of a fence on your property, 2 of ours were locked up to our deck prior to having our fence put up, we came home to find a cut lock and no bikes The police keep great records of bikes reported stolen, and its a THICK book The one thing I will say, is if you see a kid riding your stolen bike, they will give it back quickly if you approach them Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hing...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:17:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves Yeah, I had parts stolen off my bike a few years ago. Last night, a neighbor of mine who constantly makes the mistake of locking her bike to a telephone pole also had her front wheel stolen, and it's her only transportation. What can be done about this? Obviously parents aren't wondering where their kids are getting all of their bikes and bike parts. Maybe the city should require everybody to register their bikes, just like they do with dog licenses. If a kid is caught riding a bike without a sticker, impound it. If it's found to be stolen, arrest the little shit heads. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Huge problem right now? That's what they told me 3yrs ago when I had 3bikes stolen in 8days (recovered 2 of the 3, one bike the following day in front of my house, and my vintage rat rod 5 MONTHS LATER) A teacher in APHS who lives down the street from, has told us on several occasions these kids consider any bike in AP theirs. She also told us 90% of the bikes we see these kids on are stolen I have had a kid tell me to my face while on my vintage 1970 ross apollo that he was gonna take that shit right from me Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:05:48 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park bicycle thieves Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
Doesn't it all come back to inattentive parenting? If you kid has 10 bikes in their backyard and you don't question you child about it, then something is wrong. I see boys riding girls bikes and big kids riding bikes that are way to small for them all the time. One time when I was working at Second Life Bikes, and kid came in with a bike freshly painted with black spray paint. I asked him where he got it. He said it was sitting on the curb, so he just took it. I told him that a spray painted bike is a tell-tale sign of it being stolen. He acted nervous and would not look me in the eye. Repeat that over and over in our city. Parents are casting a blind eye to their kids unlawful behavior. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: One measure we, (as the potential victims) can take is to make sure we write down the bikes serial numbers I have all of my bikes serial numbers along with corresponding pictures of them as well I would never leave a bike locked up outside of a fence on your property, 2 of ours were locked up to our deck prior to having our fence put up, we came home to find a cut lock and no bikes The police keep great records of bikes reported stolen, and its a THICK book The one thing I will say, is if you see a kid riding your stolen bike, they will give it back quickly if you approach them Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:17:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves Yeah, I had parts stolen off my bike a few years ago. Last night, a neighbor of mine who constantly makes the mistake of locking her bike to a telephone pole also had her front wheel stolen, and it's her only transportation. What can be done about this? Obviously parents aren't wondering where their kids are getting all of their bikes and bike parts. Maybe the city should require everybody to register their bikes, just like they do with dog licenses. If a kid is caught riding a bike without a sticker, impound it. If it's found to be stolen, arrest the little shit heads. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Huge problem right now? That's what they told me 3yrs ago when I had 3bikes stolen in 8days (recovered 2 of the 3, one bike the following day in front of my house, and my vintage rat rod 5 MONTHS LATER) A teacher in APHS who lives down the street from, has told us on several occasions these kids consider any bike in AP theirs. She also told us 90% of the bikes we see these kids on are stolen I have had a kid tell me to my face while on my vintage 1970 ross apollo that he was gonna take that shit right from me Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:05:48 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park bicycle thieves Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
You basically hit the nail on the head The parenting in our city (or lack thereof) I truly believe is the root cause of many many social problems in AP, from education in schools to crime and everything in between Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hing...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:54:53 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves Doesn't it all come back to inattentive parenting? If you kid has 10 bikes in their backyard and you don't question you child about it, then something is wrong. I see boys riding girls bikes and big kids riding bikes that are way to small for them all the time. One time when I was working at Second Life Bikes, and kid came in with a bike freshly painted with black spray paint. I asked him where he got it. He said it was sitting on the curb, so he just took it. I told him that a spray painted bike is a tell-tale sign of it being stolen. He acted nervous and would not look me in the eye. Repeat that over and over in our city. Parents are casting a blind eye to their kids unlawful behavior. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: One measure we, (as the potential victims) can take is to make sure we write down the bikes serial numbers I have all of my bikes serial numbers along with corresponding pictures of them as well I would never leave a bike locked up outside of a fence on your property, 2 of ours were locked up to our deck prior to having our fence put up, we came home to find a cut lock and no bikes The police keep great records of bikes reported stolen, and its a THICK book The one thing I will say, is if you see a kid riding your stolen bike, they will give it back quickly if you approach them Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:17:25 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves Yeah, I had parts stolen off my bike a few years ago. Last night, a neighbor of mine who constantly makes the mistake of locking her bike to a telephone pole also had her front wheel stolen, and it's her only transportation. What can be done about this? Obviously parents aren't wondering where their kids are getting all of their bikes and bike parts. Maybe the city should require everybody to register their bikes, just like they do with dog licenses. If a kid is caught riding a bike without a sticker, impound it. If it's found to be stolen, arrest the little shit heads. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: Huge problem right now? That's what they told me 3yrs ago when I had 3bikes stolen in 8days (recovered 2 of the 3, one bike the following day in front of my house, and my vintage rat rod 5 MONTHS LATER) A teacher in APHS who lives down the street from, has told us on several occasions these kids consider any bike in AP theirs. She also told us 90% of the bikes we see these kids on are stolen I have had a kid tell me to my face while on my vintage 1970 ross apollo that he was gonna take that shit right from me Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@ Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:05:48 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park bicycle thieves Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. be nice to run a hidden wire to a decoy bike and shock the f$ckers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Huge problem right now? That's what they told me 3yrs ago when I had 3bikes stolen in 8days (recovered 2 of the 3, one bike the following day in front of my house, and my vintage rat rod 5 MONTHS LATER) A teacher in APHS who lives down the street from, has told us on several occasions these kids consider any bike in AP theirs. She also told us 90% of the bikes we see these kids on are stolen I have had a kid tell me to my face while on my vintage 1970 ross apollo that he was gonna take that shit right from me That happened to me on the BW after fireworks a couple of years ago. I told him no problem, you can have it, just bend over and I'll stick the bike up your ass. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
H :) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. be nice to run a hidden wire to a decoy bike and shock the f$ckers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park bicycle thieves
Look at these animales chopping down a tree to get a bike. http://youtu.be/PcV4LVhSRLg --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: H :) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Last night at 7 pm I surprised a would be bicycle thief who was in the process of trying to steal my bicycle seat/seat post. This happened in broad daylight. I was leaving my apt with my dog when this little shit heard us coming down the stairs, and I saw him with his hands on my bike. He ran away before I could see his face, but I did see him join a group of three other kids on BMX bikes, and they all sped away. I called the APPD and they confirmed that this is a huge problem in AP right now. That being said, be vigilant about anything you leave outside of your homes. be nice to run a hidden wire to a decoy bike and shock the f$ckers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park historical society pushes to salvage Baronet Theater artifacts
Interesting, thanks for posting. Did anyone go inside during 2006 when it was open? Seems like if extensive renovations were done in 2005-2006, that, in four years, it wouldn't have fallen apart... Cathryn. From the article: During the two decades under then-owners Walter Burns and Maurice Roberson, the theater opened intermittently starting in 1986. Developers Dennis Dubrow and Patrick Fasano bought the theater in December 2005 and reopened it for the summer after extensive renovations in July 2006. The following summer Fasano and Dubrow sold it to the cityâs master redeveloper. The theater never opened again. Years of decay took its toll on the art deco building that stood neglected and underutilized while the city limped along in a stalled oceanfront redevelopment. I liked the Baronet because it was the oldest theater in town, Crawford said. It was just a nice comfortable theater. The Baronet, Stine said, is one of many historically significant buildings the city continues to lose to redevelopment and neglect. This has been an ongoing problem in the city for decades actually â demolition through neglect, Stine said. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: _Asbury Park historical society pushes to salvage Baronet Theater artifacts | NJ.com_ (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/asbury_park_historical_society.html) _http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/asbury_park_historical_society.htm l_ (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/asbury_park_historical_society.html) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Roastery for Christmas Gifts.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Paul Vail vai...@... wrote: I love plugging the Asbury Park Roastery. thanks for the reminder http://asburyparkroastery.com/our_coffees.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park 14 Winston-Salem Yet to Score
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update: Blue Bishops advance at Pop Warner Super Bowl, 14-0 SARAH WEBSTER STAFF WRITER � December 7, 2008 LAKE BUENA VISTA, FLA � T Are you reporting from down in Florida? ): Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
In YOUR country? What are we, chopped liver? Yes, Germany was first and Queen Victoria introduced it to the Brits through her German husband Prince Albert, later introduced into the United States, during the Victorian period. However the customs of Christmas evolved, the overcommercialization of one of the Churches most sacred days cannot be overemphasized. For me, Good Friday, is the most sacred of all Holy Days. For God so gave the world, His only begotten Son. Holy Thursday, Good Friday and Easter Sunday, ring true for me, followed by Pentecost. No need to argue over who started what, because like a child, I still believe in Santa Claus or the very idea of him. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting historical perspective about other parts of the world. In my country, a christmas tree has been accepted as a part of the American celebration. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. There has historically been opposition to the custom of the Christmas tree because of its alleged pagan origins. Thus, Oliver Cromwell preached against the heathen traditions of Christmas carols and decorated trees. As pastor Henry Schwan of Cleveland OH in 1851 decorating what was likely the first Christmas tree in an American church. His parishioners condemned the idea as a Pagan practice. There are various legends regarding the origin of the Christmas tree, often relating to Saint Boniface. Thus, in one version, Boniface disrupted a pagan child sacrifice at an oak tree, flattening the oak with a blow of his fist. A small fir sprang up in place of the oak, which Boniface told the pagans represented Christ.[1] In some accounts, Martin Luther is credited with adding lights and decoration to fir branches traditionally hung from ceilings.[2] Condemnation of the Christmas tree as pagan has been based on a passage in Jeremiah, Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. (Jeremiah 10:2-4, KJV). Christmas traditions in general have often been associated with paganism in 19th century scholarship. Robert Chambers in his 1832 Book of Days notes that the festivities of Christmas originally derived from the Roman Saturnalia , had afterwards been intermingled with the ceremonies observed by the British Druids at the period of winter-solstice, and at a subsequent period became incorporated with the grim mythology of the ancient Saxons. Two popular observances belonging to Christmas are more especially derived from the worship of our pagan ancestorsthe hanging up of the mistletoe and the burning of the Yule log. Regarding the Christmas tree itself, Chambers notes that it seems to be a very ancient custom in Germany, and is probably a remnant of the splendid and fanciful pageants of the middle ages. Other traditions relating to Christmas that may derive from Germanic pagan practices include the Christmas ham, Yule Goat, stuffing stockings, elements of Santa Claus and his nocturnal ride through the sky, and elements of Alpine folklore.[3] There are also some accounts that place the earliest Christmas trees in the Baltic (variously Estonia or Lativa), while in actuality the custom was introduced there in the 1920s. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
...And on the 12th Day of Christmas, the Cajuns and the Creoles, officially roll out that other season; Mardi Gras and culminates on Ash Wednesday! Laissez La Bon Ton Rouler! No fooling! Mardi Gras begins on the 12th Night of Christmas and ends at midnight on Fat Tuesday and all Catholics, hung over or not, go to Mass and received their ashes! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm I am not sure where this news aired from, but my first question would be: Should we really be out there singing: On the First Day of Christmas, Ma-Tola-Gave-To-Us, a Christmas Tree inside the Car-Rou- Sel? Shouldn't this be a CITY activity, not a DEVELOPER activity? Happy Festival of Lights, Tommy! Yep, I get it. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 ASBURY PARK Madison Marquette will hold this year's holiday tree lighting at 6 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 30, at the Convention Hall Arcade on the boardwalk. Earlier at 3 p.m. Sunday, a free screening of the 1954 movie White Christmas'' with Bing Crosby will be shown in the Paramount Theatre, followed by a performance of Tim McLoone and the Shirleys outside the arcade from 5 to 6 p.m. Madison Marquette's marketing director, Courtney Johnson, said the boardwalk's holiday bazaar officially starts Friday, Nov. 28, with all stores open from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday through Monday and live performances throughout the month. This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands will be sold in the Carousel and the arcade will feature a concierge greeting booth and a 100 Fabulous Gifts'' shop featuring gifts from all the shops on the boardwalk. For more information, call (732) 897-8810. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In YOUR country? Yes Sharon this is where I was born and live. Is it not my country? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
No problem, with it being your country, but our is more collective since, you're speaking to ALL of us, I hope! We're not foreigners, you know. Don't get me started! I hope ALL of you enjoy the Holiday tomorrow in OUR City by the Sea! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: In YOUR country? Yes Sharon this is where I was born and live. Is it not my country? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
On Friday night at 6 in the Grand Arcade between Paramount and CH there will be a performance by the NJ Rock n Roll Chorus. Try to find the nice young lady from Howell singing 1st Soprano. I imagine they will be singing Christmas songs, but they just recorded an a copella verson of Born to Run. Considering the venue, I'm guessing they will sneak it in. I hope you enjoy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 ASBURY PARK Madison Marquette will hold this year's holiday tree lighting at 6 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 30, at the Convention Hall Arcade on the boardwalk. Earlier at 3 p.m. Sunday, a free screening of the 1954 movie White Christmas'' with Bing Crosby will be shown in the Paramount Theatre, followed by a performance of Tim McLoone and the Shirleys outside the arcade from 5 to 6 p.m. Madison Marquette's marketing director, Courtney Johnson, said the boardwalk's holiday bazaar officially starts Friday, Nov. 28, with all stores open from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday through Monday and live performances throughout the month. This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands will be sold in the Carousel and the arcade will feature a concierge greeting booth and a 100 Fabulous Gifts'' shop featuring gifts from all the shops on the boardwalk. For more information, call (732) 897-8810. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. There has historically been opposition to the custom of the Christmas tree because of its alleged pagan origins. Thus, Oliver Cromwell preached against the heathen traditions of Christmas carols and decorated trees. As pastor Henry Schwan of Cleveland OH in 1851 decorating what was likely the first Christmas tree in an American church. His parishioners condemned the idea as a Pagan practice. There are various legends regarding the origin of the Christmas tree, often relating to Saint Boniface. Thus, in one version, Boniface disrupted a pagan child sacrifice at an oak tree, flattening the oak with a blow of his fist. A small fir sprang up in place of the oak, which Boniface told the pagans represented Christ.[1] In some accounts, Martin Luther is credited with adding lights and decoration to fir branches traditionally hung from ceilings.[2] Condemnation of the Christmas tree as pagan has been based on a passage in Jeremiah, Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. (Jeremiah 10:2-4, KJV). Christmas traditions in general have often been associated with paganism in 19th century scholarship. Robert Chambers in his 1832 Book of Days notes that the festivities of Christmas originally derived from the Roman Saturnalia , had afterwards been intermingled with the ceremonies observed by the British Druids at the period of winter-solstice, and at a subsequent period became incorporated with the grim mythology of the ancient Saxons. Two popular observances belonging to Christmas are more especially derived from the worship of our pagan ancestorsthe hanging up of the mistletoe and the burning of the Yule log. Regarding the Christmas tree itself, Chambers notes that it seems to be a very ancient custom in Germany, and is probably a remnant of the splendid and fanciful pageants of the middle ages. Other traditions relating to Christmas that may derive from Germanic pagan practices include the Christmas ham, Yule Goat, stuffing stockings, elements of Santa Claus and his nocturnal ride through the sky, and elements of Alpine folklore.[3] There are also some accounts that place the earliest Christmas trees in the Baltic (variously Estonia or Lativa), while in actuality the custom was introduced there in the 1920s. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
Yes - Christmas Trees. You see, Christmas is also a cultural part of America. A recognized federal holiday. Many Jews who are proud of their American Culture take part fully in the American tradition of Christmas, without the religious part of the celebration. They wouldn't dream of casting an insult by changing the name of Christmas. Better to be inclusive and be part of the American holiday. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
Interesting historical perspective about other parts of the world. In my country, a christmas tree has been accepted as a part of the American celebration. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. There has historically been opposition to the custom of the Christmas tree because of its alleged pagan origins. Thus, Oliver Cromwell preached against the heathen traditions of Christmas carols and decorated trees. As pastor Henry Schwan of Cleveland OH in 1851 decorating what was likely the first Christmas tree in an American church. His parishioners condemned the idea as a Pagan practice. There are various legends regarding the origin of the Christmas tree, often relating to Saint Boniface. Thus, in one version, Boniface disrupted a pagan child sacrifice at an oak tree, flattening the oak with a blow of his fist. A small fir sprang up in place of the oak, which Boniface told the pagans represented Christ.[1] In some accounts, Martin Luther is credited with adding lights and decoration to fir branches traditionally hung from ceilings.[2] Condemnation of the Christmas tree as pagan has been based on a passage in Jeremiah, Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. (Jeremiah 10:2-4, KJV). Christmas traditions in general have often been associated with paganism in 19th century scholarship. Robert Chambers in his 1832 Book of Days notes that the festivities of Christmas originally derived from the Roman Saturnalia , had afterwards been intermingled with the ceremonies observed by the British Druids at the period of winter-solstice, and at a subsequent period became incorporated with the grim mythology of the ancient Saxons. Two popular observances belonging to Christmas are more especially derived from the worship of our pagan ancestorsthe hanging up of the mistletoe and the burning of the Yule log. Regarding the Christmas tree itself, Chambers notes that it seems to be a very ancient custom in Germany, and is probably a remnant of the splendid and fanciful pageants of the middle ages. Other traditions relating to Christmas that may derive from Germanic pagan practices include the Christmas ham, Yule Goat, stuffing stockings, elements of Santa Claus and his nocturnal ride through the sky, and elements of Alpine folklore.[3] There are also some accounts that place the earliest Christmas trees in the Baltic (variously Estonia or Lativa), while in actuality the custom was introduced there in the 1920s. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- Christmas is good for the Jews who are in the retail and manufacturing business so yes it's a jewish holiday Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
And can't a manufacturer/merchant call his product what he wants to call them? On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
They do all the time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah_bush On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:05 PM, justifiedright wrote: Yes - Christmas Trees. You see, Christmas is also a cultural part of America. A recognized federal holiday. Many Jews who are proud of their American Culture take part fully in the American tradition of Christmas, without the religious part of the celebration. They wouldn't dream of casting an insult by changing the name of Christmas. Better to be inclusive and be part of the American holiday. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
I assume your question is to Jack since the seller is calling them Christmas trees and Jack wonders why he doesn't change it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And can't a manufacturer/merchant call his product what he wants to call them? On Nov 25, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Jack Pitzer wrote: But, don't some Jewish people have trees in their homes, just because they like them? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps it would be a good move, from a marketing perspective, to just call them Holiday trees, wreaths, and garlands If you think about the overwhelming retail aspect of Christmas, I doubt that people who are trolling around the mall are thinking about the baby jesus when they are surrounded by decorations. Actually, if there were a Jesus, and he were alive today, he'd probably want to collect royalties from all the merchandise sold in his name. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
Hmmm I am not sure where this news aired from, but my first question would be: Should we really be out there singing: On the First Day of Christmas, Ma-Tola-Gave-To-Us, a Christmas Tree inside the Car-Rou- Sel? Shouldn't this be a CITY activity, not a DEVELOPER activity? Happy Festival of Lights, Tommy! Yep, I get it. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 ASBURY PARK Madison Marquette will hold this year's holiday tree lighting at 6 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 30, at the Convention Hall Arcade on the boardwalk. Earlier at 3 p.m. Sunday, a free screening of the 1954 movie White Christmas'' with Bing Crosby will be shown in the Paramount Theatre, followed by a performance of Tim McLoone and the Shirleys outside the arcade from 5 to 6 p.m. Madison Marquette's marketing director, Courtney Johnson, said the boardwalk's holiday bazaar officially starts Friday, Nov. 28, with all stores open from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday through Monday and live performances throughout the month. This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands will be sold in the Carousel and the arcade will feature a concierge greeting booth and a 100 Fabulous Gifts'' shop featuring gifts from all the shops on the boardwalk. For more information, call (732) 897-8810. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm I am not sure where this news aired from, but my first question would be: Should we really be out there singing: On the First Day of Christmas, Ma-Tola-Gave-To-Us, a Christmas Tree inside the Car-Rou- Sel? it's on the owner's property, not public. It's the season and real smart they can turn the arcade into a shopping/entertainment center - in December. And it should be good for downtown, who has to learn and take advantage of the boardwalk draw and feed off of it. That's FREE marketing for the downtown and the rest of the city. Learn to capitalize on it. A guy once had a pizzeria. He first complained that McDonalds moved across the street (must of meant he was in a good spot, right). He thought it would hurt his business. In the long run, his business increased and he gained additional parking from the lot and additional traffic get it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
Yep, Oak, I get it... I lost site of the ownership. Man, I was just trying to stand on Tommy's side for once! Thank you for putting the ownership into perspective. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: Hmmm I am not sure where this news aired from, but my first question would be: Should we really be out there singing: On the First Day of Christmas, Ma-Tola-Gave-To-Us, a Christmas Tree inside the Car- Rou- Sel? it's on the owner's property, not public. It's the season and real smart they can turn the arcade into a shopping/entertainment center - in December. And it should be good for downtown, who has to learn and take advantage of the boardwalk draw and feed off of it. That's FREE marketing for the downtown and the rest of the city. Learn to capitalize on it. A guy once had a pizzeria. He first complained that McDonalds moved across the street (must of meant he was in a good spot, right). He thought it would hurt his business. In the long run, his business increased and he gained additional parking from the lot and additional traffic get it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
Why cant they turn one of those parking lots into a rink? Ive seen temporary rinks go up with no problem. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Wow. Super cool. Wouldn't it be a great treat if we had a winter skating rink? Maybe where the hay maze currently sits? Of course, it makes me wonder how many people still have ice skates. I don't, but I'd buy some if we had a skating rink a few blocks from where I live. I suggested this last year similar to the temporary ice rink that is set up in Bryant Park every year. I suggested Bradley Park/Atlantic Square but yes, there are green spaces. Costs a pretty penny. MM should think of it. Put it right where the pool club is supposed to go. But we cannot even get MM to pay what it owes already. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Remember AP once was going to build a minor leauge stadium... Going to build. The operative words. I kind of recall the arguments against it who would come what if it didn't work why the ocean front (the wind, the rain etc...) the traffic waste of space Wasn't it supposed to be around the empress? Tom? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
Yes! Didn't you take the trip to Trenton to see his new Arena going up? But nooo! AP wouldn't go with him, as the developer. Everything he built was golden! Trenton still has the same mayor! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: H... Wasn't there a place in AP called The Casino where Ice Skating happened? DUH- Before Fishman (BF) I brought Ron Berman the owner of Ron Berman Development and the owner of a NJ Ice Hockey Team to Asbury Park for an inspection of the Casino. Along came his Planner/Engineer who declared that the building could definitely be saved and restored. The plan was to make it the home base for the Hockey team. Ice skating on the Oceanfront...Fancy that. Well After Fishman (AF) it was declared tha the Casino was beyond salvation..This, by exactly the same Planner/Engineer that a Year earlier had said it could be saved. Had Ron Berman been part of the team the Casino would today be a major attraction. :-( Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! Didn't you take the trip to Trenton to see his new Arena going up? But nooo! AP wouldn't go with him, as the developer. Everything he built was golden! Trenton still has the same mayor! = I don't think I did, Not needed, I had already seen all of Mr. Bermans projects privately with him while getting him interested in Asbury Park. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: H... Wasn't there a place in AP called The Casino where Ice Skating happened? DUH- Before Fishman (BF) I brought Ron Berman the owner of Ron Berman Development and the owner of a NJ Ice Hockey Team to Asbury Park for an inspection of the Casino. Along came his Planner/Engineer who declared that the building could definitely be saved and restored. The plan was to make it the home base for the Hockey team. Ice skating on the Oceanfront...Fancy that. Well After Fishman (AF) it was declared tha the Casino was beyond salvation..This, by exactly the same Planner/Engineer that a Year earlier had said it could be saved. Had Ron Berman been part of the team the Casino would today be a major attraction. :-( Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
Wow. Super cool. Wouldn't it be a great treat if we had a winter skating rink? Maybe where the hay maze currently sits? Of course, it makes me wonder how many people still have ice skates. I don't, but I'd buy some if we had a skating rink a few blocks from where I live. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Park had its share of winter sports, such as skating and ice- boating. Wesley, Sunset and Deal Lakes came in for their quoto of patronage. Oen or two families who expected to winter in the south, were so much fascinated with the fine skating upon the lakes, that when last seen, they thought in all probability they would put off their flight for another season. (may each year find them detained by the same pleasant sport). The elctric lights entirely encircling Sunset and Wesley Lakes make the the favorites for evening sport, where the merry laugh of the skaters rings out on the clear air, making music until quite a late hour. The condition of the ice depends much upon the wind in this locality, and great anxiety is felt that it may remain in a westerly direction From The Torch, January 1891. Life seemed a little simple back then... wonder if the men were cursing those lights who dreaming about how women may look in a couple pieces of string sitting on a beach... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
H... Wasn't there a place in AP called The Casino where Ice Skating happened? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Super cool. Wouldn't it be a great treat if we had a winter skating rink? Maybe where the hay maze currently sits? Of course, it makes me wonder how many people still have ice skates. I don't, but I'd buy some if we had a skating rink a few blocks from where I live. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: The Park had its share of winter sports, such as skating and ice- boating. Wesley, Sunset and Deal Lakes came in for their quoto of patronage. Oen or two families who expected to winter in the south, were so much fascinated with the fine skating upon the lakes, that when last seen, they thought in all probability they would put off their flight for another season. (may each year find them detained by the same pleasant sport). The elctric lights entirely encircling Sunset and Wesley Lakes make the the favorites for evening sport, where the merry laugh of the skaters rings out on the clear air, making music until quite a late hour. The condition of the ice depends much upon the wind in this locality, and great anxiety is felt that it may remain in a westerly direction From The Torch, January 1891. Life seemed a little simple back then... wonder if the men were cursing those lights who dreaming about how women may look in a couple pieces of string sitting on a beach... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H... Wasn't there a place in AP called The Casino where Ice Skating happened? DUH- Before Fishman (BF) I brought Ron Berman the owner of Ron Berman Development and the owner of a NJ Ice Hockey Team to Asbury Park for an inspection of the Casino. Along came his Planner/Engineer who declared that the building could definitely be saved and restored. The plan was to make it the home base for the Hockey team. Ice skating on the Oceanfront...Fancy that. Well After Fishman (AF) it was declared tha the Casino was beyond salvation..This, by exactly the same Planner/Engineer that a Year earlier had said it could be saved. Had Ron Berman been part of the team the Casino would today be a major attraction. :-( Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DUH- Apparently there are professionals who work for their client... Years back, some people got out of leases because the buildings they were in were had structural defects.. The Casino and CH were two of them Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Flexes Political Muscle
You're a piece of work! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope you enjoy this post-election analysis that focuses on Asbury Park. Brim will enjoy it the most. Nice job, Michael. http://tinyurl.com/5dgbt9 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Flexes Political Muscle
Your modesty is appealing Michael, but Democrat voter turnout in Asbury Park is ultimately your responsibility. You deserve to have the credit. Job very well done. Besides, if Democrat voter turnout had been small, you know I'd be blowing you up right now ;-) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Tommy, but it was more than just me! Michael From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of justifiedright Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:28 AM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Asbury Park Flexes Political Muscle Hope you enjoy this post-election analysis that focuses on Asbury Park. Brim will enjoy it the most. Nice job, Michael. http://tinyurl.com/5dgbt9 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park v Howell
Howell - 20. Asbury Park - 12. Great game. They may play again in a post season game in AP; I'll let you all know if it happends. After the 1st kick-off there were 4 officials on the field, and they were going to keep time there. The coach of AP objected and wanted official time kept on the scoreboard, which takes an official off the field. It's his right to insist, but it does take a pair of eyes away. The next play when there was 3 officials, there was a Howell TD. Looked to me like he was out of bounds (AP players all pointing to the spot I saw), and ironically, the official keeping time would have been in position to catch it were he down there. Howell was leading 14-0 right before the half. Ran some plays when he could have sat on it (probably trying to get kids plays). Lost the ball and AP scored. Very exciting. Late in the forth it was 14-12 with Howell drinving. 4th down and 8 to go at mid field. Most would have punted. Howell completed a pass play for the 1st that eventually led to a TD. Game ended exciting too, with AP driving. Could have tied the game. Pass intercepted by Howell with short time left. This is Howard Cosell signing off Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park v Howell
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howell - 20. Asbury Park - 12. This is Howard Cosell signing off Of course you're tying in his real education as an attorney... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park v Howell
Don't have a clue! One of Neptune's former players is playing for Marlboro. Don't know which team was discontinued. I did attend Neptune's Homecoming last Saturday. The Class of 1976, was being honored. I notice Asbury Park Pop Warner kids out on the street with buckets, asking for donations. What's up with that? 3 of my kids live in Neptune, which is why I know. Received a call during the Marlboro game that the parents from Marlboro were fighting with the refs! When I was coaching they were doing the same thing, (80's)! Overzealous parents complaining that their kids weren't getting into the game! What can I say? No sportsmanship? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very intriguing Pop Warner game on Sunday afternoon at 4:30 if you are interested. PLEASE READ THIS (particularly the bottom!): Don't know if you've heard about Asbury Park's Pop Warner this year. At one point in the season, not only was every team at every level (mighty might, jr pee wee, pee wee, jr midget and midget) undefeated, BUT EVERY GAME AT EVERY LEVEL WAS A SHUT OUT. Wow. Not sure if that's even changed. For some reason, many kids from Neptune are playing for Asbury. Neptune's program seems decimated. I heard they had to drop one level completely, and when the mighty might team I coach in Howell went to play them, Neptune forfieted for not having enough players. Anyone know what's up with that? Sharon?? Anyway, Howell also has an undefeated team (not sure if it is pee wee or jr midget). They happen to be playing an Asbury team on Sunday. I'll be spotting the game for the announcer. The announcer will be Mike Clark, who graduated APHS with me and coaches with me here in Howell. HOWELL WILL BE PACKED WITH FANS! They moved this game from Saturday because Saturday is Howell Day and the fear was so many people were going to the game that Howell Day would be a bust. Accordingly, to keep Howells 12th man off the field, the Asbury Park kids are going to need many people to come cheer for them, so pass this around and come if you can. Show some Asbury spirit and come support the kids. Everyone's welcome. Should be fun and a great game. Here's where: Howell Pop Warner Complex GSP (N)/(S) Exit 98 Route 138 West, which turns into Interstate 195 West. Continue 2 miles to Exit 31A, Monmouth County Route 547 South. Go 1000 feet to the traffic light and turn right onto Old Tavern Road. The complex will be approx. 500 feet after the railroad crossing, across from the Law Enforcement Center, and Library. Route 9 (Optional) (N)/(S) to Aldrich Road East, and continue to the end. At the yield sign, bear right on Windler Road, and continue 500 feet to Oak Glen Road, turn left. Around the 1st curve, turns into Old Tavern Road. Proceed ½ miles, and just past Preventorium Road, field will be on the right, across from Law Enforcement Center. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park v Howell
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, Howell also has an undefeated team (not sure if it is pee wee or jr midget). They happen to be playing an Asbury team on Sunday. $20 on AP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park v Howell
No thank you --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Anyway, Howell also has an undefeated team (not sure if it is pee wee or jr midget). They happen to be playing an Asbury team on Sunday. $20 on AP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
I don't think it's wrong to be critical of the way the system was implemented.This is a system, which people have shown quite a bit of confusion in using - one that had at least one local town (Belmar) eliminate the system for that very reason. The meters also run a good 5 hours longer than any of the nearby towns. I think those two points are definitely worth discussing and debating. dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True I don't get that. The city buys these units and then MM opens free lots. The city should explain to us tax payers The lots will not be free but MM cannot charge to park there until they recieve COs. The city asked MM to open them up free in the interim to help the parking situation. Some of you are too critical even when the city tries to do something good. Damend ifyou do and damned if you don't. The parking meters are good for this city. The implementation was not perfect. People hate change. They will learn to use the system. Parking is never free. There is always a cost. Time for people to grow up. Its not your uncle's AP anymore. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
I have to agree with Gary. The parking meters would be good for the city if they were properly implemented, but they weren't. It was confusing. And it's even more confusing that you can park in a lot for free, but you can also park in a confusing paid parking space , potentially screw up and wind up with a $26 ticket. This whole situation is just bad PR for AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's wrong to be critical of the way the system was implemented.This is a system, which people have shown quite a bit of confusion in using - one that had at least one local town (Belmar) eliminate the system for that very reason. The meters also run a good 5 hours longer than any of the nearby towns. I think those two points are definitely worth discussing and debating. dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, nnjallans1@ wrote: True I don't get that. The city buys these units and then MM opens free lots. The city should explain to us tax payers The lots will not be free but MM cannot charge to park there until they recieve COs. The city asked MM to open them up free in the interim to help the parking situation. Some of you are too critical even when the city tries to do something good. Damend ifyou do and damned if you don't. The parking meters are good for this city. The implementation was not perfect. People hate change. They will learn to use the system. Parking is never free. There is always a cost. Time for people to grow up. Its not your uncle's AP anymore. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True I don't get that. The city buys these units and then MM opens free lots. The city should explain to us tax payers The lots will not be free but MM cannot charge to park there until they recieve COs. The city asked MM to open them up free in the interim to help the parking situation. Some of you are too critical even when the city tries to do something good. Damend ifyou do and damned if you don't. The parking meters are good for this city. The implementation was not perfect. People hate change. They will learn to use the system. Parking is never free. There is always a cost. Time for people to grow up. Its not your uncle's AP anymore. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
Who approved this system? Did the PEOPLE know? How many other issues go under the radar? Where did those parking lots come form? They were filled to capacity, but I didn't see any signs with price, entry or whatever it takes to get into one of these lots, in addition to the one over on Kingsley? and Ocean Ave. by the Casino. I don't know this Asbury Park. Oh and upon exiting this lot, they think THEY have the right of way! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas where you really have to look quite a distance to find the machine to pay. Jack Pitzer wrote: To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs perhaps 12 by 18 inches directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs perhaps 12 by 18 inches directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs perhaps 12 by 18 inches directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas where you really have to look quite a distance to find the machine to pay. Jack Pitzer wrote: To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS • COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU • AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK — City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs — perhaps 12 by 18 inches — directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
This system works in NY. However there are a few signs per block that give direction. If so many tickets are. Being issued then the problem is how the city launched this Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:00:11 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas where you really have to look quite a distance to find the machine to pay. Jack Pitzer wrote: To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS • COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU • AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK — City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs — perhaps 12 by 18 inches — directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
The city failed with this parking system on so many different levels. First off, they should've waited till next summer, or until more of the renovation is complete. Secondly, it's confusing people left and right. And if you park too far away from the machines, and don't know that you have to pay to park, and didn't note the space number, you have to walk all the way back to your car. Strike 2. Finally, there is no communication between the city and MM, because MM has free lots at the SP, Casino and the Wonder Bar. People seems to be parking in those, rather then use the pay spaces. I'd do the same thing. Nobody is watching those lots. This is already generating lots of brand new bad publicity for our city. It should. If you get a $26 ticket because the system is confusing, you are gonna tell all your friends about it. I think the city should cancel all of those tickets that were issued and fix things. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This system works in NY. However there are a few signs per block that give direction. If so many tickets are. Being issued then the problem is how the city launched this Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:00:11 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas where you really have to look quite a distance to find the machine to pay. Jack Pitzer wrote: To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs perhaps 12 by 18 inches directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
True I don't get that. The city buys these units and then MM opens free lots. The city should explain to us tax payers Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:14:20 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets The city failed with this parking system on so many different levels. First off, they should've waited till next summer, or until more of the renovation is complete. Secondly, it's confusing people left and right. And if you park too far away from the machines, and don't know that you have to pay to park, and didn't note the space number, you have to walk all the way back to your car. Strike 2. Finally, there is no communication between the city and MM, because MM has free lots at the SP, Casino and the Wonder Bar. People seems to be parking in those, rather then use the pay spaces. I'd do the same thing. Nobody is watching those lots. This is already generating lots of brand new bad publicity for our city. It should. If you get a $26 ticket because the system is confusing, you are gonna tell all your friends about it. I think the city should cancel all of those tickets that were issued and fix things. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This system works in NY. However there are a few signs per block that give direction. If so many tickets are. Being issued then the problem is how the city launched this Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:00:11 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Belmar actually tried a parking meter system like that a year or two but removed it in favor of the old system of one meter per space because too many people complained about not understanding where they should be paying for their spot. New signs would definitely be helpful as there are areas where you really have to look quite a distance to find the machine to pay. Jack Pitzer wrote: To top it all off, not only are people getting ticketed all over, but they are confused by the new parking system. A parking system should not require a learning curve. Also, why pay when you can park in the new lot's that MM built which aren't being monitored at all? Tons of people are, behind the WB, across from the SP and by the Casino. Makes no sense at all, and we are paying the price for it. This parking fiasco is a terrible way for AP to end an otherwise positive summer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Better than a speed trap, huh? I get it, don't you? Greetings From Asbury Park! Park here and get an instant discount of $26.00! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets Larger signs ordered to acclimate beachfront visitors to pay stations BY NANCY SHIELDS � COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU � AUGUST 30, 2008 ASBURY PARK � City officials Friday said they will order and post larger signs � perhaps 12 by 18 inches � directing people to the new beachfront pay stations at each intersection, where they can pay for the newly numbered parking spot they parked in. Police have issued hundreds of parking tickets since Asbury Park began enforcing metered parking on the beachfront two weeks ago. The cost of a ticket for not paying to park is $26. Yahoo! Groups Links
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park court swamped by parking tickets
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True I don't get that. The city buys these units and then MM opens free lots. The city should explain to us tax payers Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Well, tonight and the other day, the free lots were filled by the WB/ Tonight, I paid .80 to park by north beach. Went to Teak in Red Bank last night. Parked for free. I think it ended at six pm the fees. I only had one ticket in red b - parking in a stall backward - uts illegal in RB. Make that 2 - I read ended someone. Years ago, the lot behind the pony and the old triangle lot were privately owned and the city had meters. Lots of things could be done - like making one of those lots or portions of employee parking only or better yet - don't let the employees drive in. The pay stations are hard to read at night unless they are under a street light. I was at the one tonight at the north corner of the sunset ave pav/ 6th ave. The person on front of me couldn;t pay cuase the machine was having troublr ccepting her paper money. They were trying to pay 2.50 for five hours. It's not just AP, unless the pay stations are in enclosed garage or lot, its hard to know how to, if you and how much. But, I think its a great idea. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: water park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two times my post wound up in a completely unrelated category, I dont know why this is happening... The fixtrues were up this weekend. Big watering can, hose nosel, and faucet. Colorful, larger than life things. I think they will be a hit with kids. Looks to be almost done, but they obviously missed out on this summer... maybe they can get a weekend or two of use in September though. realized now that there were posts in there also titled Water Park so it was tacking it on as a response to those posts... problem solved... back to the water park on 2nd ave now. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Magic
I know what you mean. My boys never forget the night I took them to Asbury in the winter and we spent the night throwing snowballs at Tillie. Memories. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was at the Stone Pony with my kid Wed night and the Fireworks on the beach were awsome. Thank you Asbury Park. I love sharing moments like that with my kids. Its a memory you never forget. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Boardwalk and Olympic Baseball in article....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting commentary in this article the other day. ... as a follow-up to that previous post about that- the writer must not have been in AP recently - or for a long time, but while in Bejing, SOMETHING reminded him AP. I sent him an email to find out what. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Hotel and Conference Center......
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple interesting notes. 1. Anyone ever see the concepts of the BW on diplay at North Beach? By GP ARchitects Then this one - the Asbury PArk Hotel and Conference Center http://www.diguiseppe.com/design/images/projects/hotels/Asbury% 20Park/Title%20Page%20-%20Asbury%20Park.html Is this a current concept or a previous one? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Art: Fourth Avenue and Main Street
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda Griggs (http://lindagriggs.com http://lindagriggs.com ) obtained permission from the property owner of the old fueling station on the corner of Main Street and Fourth Avenue to create a mural. Here are some pictures of Linda's work in progress, these pictures have been provided to me by Linda with permission to post them. Please note that the mural is removeable and may disappear at any time, so, grab your own photos quickly! Linda will continue enhancing the mural for as long as it remains: BEFORE: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2712037116/ AFTER: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2712037014/ After AFTER With Detail: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2711224747/ I'll be sure to get my camera and get some shots of this beautiful mural! Excellent work!!! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Art: Fourth Avenue and Main Street
It's beautiful, like the artist! Thanks, Linda --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linda Griggs (http://lindagriggs.com http://lindagriggs.com ) obtained permission from the property owner of the old fueling station on the corner of Main Street and Fourth Avenue to create a mural. Here are some pictures of Linda's work in progress, these pictures have been provided to me by Linda with permission to post them. Please note that the mural is removeable and may disappear at any time, so, grab your own photos quickly! Linda will continue enhancing the mural for as long as it remains: BEFORE: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2712037116/ AFTER: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2712037014/ After AFTER With Detail: [Asbury Art, 4th. Ave. and Main] http://www.flickr.com/photos/dapaw/2711224747/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
There are places that protect scenic and historic views. Didn't anyone think of that before putting up those shacks? I've always appreciated when I have good photo opportunities. That fortune teller place is known around the world and certainly should have been protected. Its changed for the worse. It used to be a white building and the one nextdoor (bandstand) was orange. A great classic Asbury image from the boardwalk. Now its blue with a yellow building behind it as viewed looking NW. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your point about taking that picture is a good one. People from all over the world who are Bruce fans come to Asbury to take pictures like the one you mentioned. I met one of these people once in Germany, and she has a photo album with a pic of her standing next to Madam Marie's. An entire side of that building is now obscured by a shipping container. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap newbeetoap@ wrote: That was my impression too, they are awful. This was brought up here before they were even put in. Seems really cheap and tasteless. They block the views down the street too. Madam Marie is really squeezed in now so I cant get a good classic picture anymore. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap wonderwomanator@ wrote: I'm going to Rant so be prepared folks! I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping containers painted white as storefronts? My God they are hideous!!! They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers whatever it may be is too much. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
That was my impression too, they are awful. This was brought up here before they were even put in. Seems really cheap and tasteless. They block the views down the street too. Madam Marie is really squeezed in now so I cant get a good classic picture anymore. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to Rant so be prepared folks! I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping containers painted white as storefronts? My God they are hideous!!! They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers whatever it may be is too much. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
Your point about taking that picture is a good one. People from all over the world who are Bruce fans come to Asbury to take pictures like the one you mentioned. I met one of these people once in Germany, and she has a photo album with a pic of her standing next to Madam Marie's. An entire side of that building is now obscured by a shipping container. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was my impression too, they are awful. This was brought up here before they were even put in. Seems really cheap and tasteless. They block the views down the street too. Madam Marie is really squeezed in now so I cant get a good classic picture anymore. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap wonderwomanator@ wrote: I'm going to Rant so be prepared folks! I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping containers painted white as storefronts? My God they are hideous!!! They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers whatever it may be is too much. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap wonderwomanator@ wrote: I am a City Planner by education. I took many classes on Architecture and Urban Design . They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) As a city planner what are your thoughts on having anything in those spaces, regardless of how they look? I'm sure you know the history and reasoning behind the flared streets between Ocean and Kingsley that correspond to those spaces. Is it worth it lose that air flow and those sightlines in order to gain whatever rent they're making on those containers? That's another point altogether! I think that the thought that went into the initial design of the street plan was visionary. You have to admit that the wide streets at the oceanside do allow some great circulation to the uppper blocks in town,(of which I'm a beneficiary!) If you compare Asbury design to say the obstruction of the oceanfront in Long Branch you can see what extreme building conveysthe beach is only for some people...for example. You raise some good points. I had only been thinking about the facade factor when I initially posted. Open spaces between the pavillions does make sense if you are keeping with historical design standards. It makes additional sense if you keep in mind environmental problems of today. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
- in Long Branch you can see what extreme building conveysthe beach is only for some people...for example. While the shops in LB (and AP) may be for some people - the beaches aren't and won't be. I've sat in the middle of Pier village on the beach - and it's probably the most diversified beach in M county. And if you want to see how the women from South America wear a bikini - that's the place to go. Drive through Sea Bright - now that's really excluding some people. And I'm one of the some (unless some other one invites me...then I have to decide if I realy feel like being proper all day...or if I want to hear about someone else s problems...) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping containers painted white as storefronts? My God they are hideous!!! They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers whatever it may be is too much. David Rockwell's latest design phase. Xanadu has a similar look. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a City Planner by education. I took many classes on Architecture and Urban Design . They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which are looking great by the way) As a city planner what are your thoughts on having anything in those spaces, regardless of how they look? I'm sure you know the history and reasoning behind the flared streets between Ocean and Kingsley that correspond to those spaces. Is it worth it lose that air flow and those sightlines in order to gain whatever rent they're making on those containers? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever see a jewish kid selling xmas trees and homemade wreaths? From whom do you think the goyum buy their crosses from? Priest: 100 crucifixes please Vendor: mit or mitout the jesuses? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
I was in Israel about 10 years ago on business. We visited the old city of Jerusalem on our day off. A large part of it kind of reminded me of Collingswood Auction. There were little shops run by Christians, Jews, and Muslims, and they were all selling each others icons. Didn't see many Buddahs or Kalis, though... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Ever see a jewish kid selling xmas trees and homemade wreaths? From whom do you think the goyum buy their crosses from? Priest: 100 crucifixes please Vendor: mit or mitout the jesuses? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \ From whom do you think the goyum buy their crosses from? Priest: 100 crucifixes please Vendor: mit or mitout the jesuses? The funny part of the xmas trees was my firend's brother went to Brooklyn to buy a trailer of trees. When they delivered them and started unbundeling them, they weren't exactly full. So we took wire and sold 2 for 1 tie them together for one good tree and the rest we chopped up and made grave blankets or wreaths. Things you can't learn in school. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park ?
Self-interested speculation?... quality rather than quantity...? Perhaps Asbury Park, Asbury Partners and MM need a history lesson. from the Chicago Plan website ... there was too much ugliness and squalor. The planners blamed this condition on uncontrolled development and self-interested speculation. The Plan maintains that the issue facing Chicago is no longer expansion but conservation, quality rather than quantity of life. Time and again, it declares that a city's social, cultural, and financial well-being are inseparable. The constant struggle of civilization is to know and to attain the highest good, it states, and the city which brings about the best conditions of life becomes the most prosperous. Lack of planning had wasted time, effort, and money, - (Note that last line) Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park ?
First people said no one will come to Asbury. Now its there is grid lock because too many people are coming to Asbury. My coworkers who visited asbury could not believe all the events that were going on. Yup they had to drive around to find parking near North Beach, but they also paid $150/cple
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park ?
(Con't) they paid $150/cple to eat at Salt Water. They loved it and raved about how much asbury has progressed. They are planning on going back this weekend. I like the way the pavilions look. Could they be better? Sure. Am I going to complain..nope. The people are coming and everyone is having a good time. Isn't that what the boardwalk is supposed to present? A good time. Did anyone try the Cuban sandwiches? They are great!
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John Lorenzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has gotten too crowded TOO fast! Bikes are now banned after 12 Noon I just got bike from my night time trip to ralph's. A cop told two people with dogs to leave and a kid on a bike I think after 9 pm it should be ok A couple signs on what IS coming next should be splurged on. A nice big waterpark sign, some temp lighting om the closed buildings would help as well. Lot of people still have no idea waht is going on. Also, this is summer. If you already have an operating business on the BW, BE OPEN at night. A boardwalk business is not meant to be open from 10-5pm. It's a BOARDWALK. It;s SUMMER, Be open to at least 10 pm. Even it's DEAD. There were 20 people playing golf. 20 x 5 = $100. 100 x 10 hours - $1,000. Get it? Surprised MM hasn't put in SOH = standard operating hours. I would. I did it when I was there - regardless of weather i the summer. We could do more biz when we went real nuts and reopened from 11pm - 2am. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
I absolutely agree that bikes should be allowed after 9 pm, but only on weekdays. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John Lorenzo johnmenc@ wrote: It has gotten too crowded TOO fast! Bikes are now banned after 12 Noon I just got bike from my night time trip to ralph's. A cop told two people with dogs to leave and a kid on a bike I think after 9 pm it should be ok A couple signs on what IS coming next should be splurged on. A nice big waterpark sign, some temp lighting om the closed buildings would help as well. Lot of people still have no idea waht is going on. Also, this is summer. If you already have an operating business on the BW, BE OPEN at night. A boardwalk business is not meant to be open from 10-5pm. It's a BOARDWALK. It;s SUMMER, Be open to at least 10 pm. Even it's DEAD. There were 20 people playing golf. 20 x 5 = $100. 100 x 10 hours - $1,000. Get it? Surprised MM hasn't put in SOH = standard operating hours. I would. I did it when I was there - regardless of weather i the summer. We could do more biz when we went real nuts and reopened from 11pm - 2am. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
In a message dated 7/14/2008 9:49:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surprised MM hasn't put in SOH = standard operating hours. I would. I did it when I was there - regardless of weather i the summer. SOH are S.O.P. even at Collingwood Flea Market. **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112)
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SOH are S.O.P. even at Collingwood Flea Market. did that as well. Ever see a jewish kid selling xmas trees and homemade wreaths? I need pickles. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
In a message dated 7/14/2008 9:49:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surprised MM hasn't put in SOH = standard operating hours. Coincidentally, I ran into two out-of-town friends around 6 tonight. The were on Sunset, headed to the boardwalk. When I mentioned the crods and parking situation this past weekend, they were skeptical because they work weekends and can only do the boards on week nights. Based on your report of the closed shops tonight, I doubt they'll be any less skeptical. Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle. -- Michelangelo **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112)
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park on the MOVE
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at 8 30 ralphs, pottery, style was closing around 9, eddie ice cream, cuban were open - as were salt water, biggies, tooles and b. bar. not bad actually - more then ever opened. And Im sure once the bars are open on the bw, there will be alot more peopleand stores open. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe Monmouth doesn't do well enough to spend on such an attraction. One that may not give back much. Guess who owned a piece of M Mall along with Vornado REalty trust - one of the largest in the world - Kushner. I believe it was recently sold - the mall. I believe of the brooklyn/deal boys. I have to learn that when someone says I'm looking for something big...like Monmouth Mall to believe them. Even if it's a kid. A kid who as sent out to learn the ropes. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards
Glenn, You're absolutely right! Why doesn't the hypocrisy of it all, NOT surprise me? At the 110th Anniversary, thing, the Carousel was used for the cake, but still, no carousel in the city, except in our minds, which I lost a long time ago! My mind, that is! Well, the snow is falling and AP schools are open, as usual! Seems they'd give these kids ONE snow day, since they haven't had any all year! As far as the Chamber, it's just a popularity contest, as far as I'm concerned. Name me one member, no 2, that live here! A lot of what goes on here, is just so window dressing! Too many restaurants, with no real business, here. Well, at least Tommy is consistent, with being a Republican; seems he owns an oil business, here! Read it in the paper. Weldon's pensions suspended. Have mixed feelings over that. His firemen's pension, shouldn't have been involved. Seems he earned that. He still has his family. Sorry folks, they shouldn't have to pay for his mistakes. Alright, I've donned my flame-retardant, suit. Flame, away! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uhm, CAROUSEL Awards? Hve any of these people noticed that there is not ONE Carousel left? Just my two cents. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards Winners _The Coaster » Blog Archive » Asbury Park Chamber Names Carousel Awards Winners_ (http://thecoaster.net/wordpress/?p=2178) Thursday, February 21, 2008, 1:33 pm Madison Marquette, who has taken the lead in the retail and entertainment segment of Asbury Parkâs beachfront redevelopment, will be honored with the Economic Development Award by the Asbury Park Chamber of Commerce at the Carousel Awards Dinner April 10. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
