Pagination (should be basic)

2002-09-30 Thread Russ

All,

I'm trying to understand how to do simple pagination--that is, return a
list of results or enter a page and only present the first X results.

Likewise, I'd like to be able to present the next set of results (from
x*2 to x*3), etc.

Thank you for any assistance/pointers.

Russ

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Re: Pagination (should be basic)

2002-09-30 Thread Nick de Voil

Russ

 I'm trying to understand how to do simple pagination

This is called a next-n interface. There are quite a few web resources on
this if you do a search.

Basically you need to do a CFQUERY... CACHEDWITHIN... to get the data
efficiently, then display it on the page using variables to keep track of
what the numbers of the first and last rows to display for the current
page in the query are, using CFLOOP QUERY=... STARTROW=... ENDROW...

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Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX

2002-09-30 Thread Nick de Voil

I'm looking at this Verity doc

http://www.verity.com/pdf/white_papers/MK0348a_Discovery_WP.pdf

and I like the look of the THESAURUS, TYPO and SOUNDEX evidence operators.

Are these available via CF? If not, what do I have to do to get them and
what does it cost?

Thanks

Nick

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RE: Ben's J2EE Book

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

I totally disagree.. getting it 'connected' is the easy part.  The actual
movement and animation (for which Flash is designed) is the difficult part.
Flash is one of those progs which you need to be [a] a good designer [b] a
good animator.  If you are neither then stay clear of Flash or you will just
be producing the same old crap.

I think a proper 'Spectrum of Participants' :-) is required for these Rich
Client movies as one single CF developer aint gonna blow things out of the
water with poor Flash skills and a little DB connectivity.

Flash is an animation/loose design tool
CF is a Server Scripting Environment

The divide is huge.

N

Though I would love to see someones reaction to this course who is a
complete novice to Flash scripting etc..






-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 04:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


Hi, Raymond.

Thanks for the news.  Sounds perfect.
Once I figure out that I can program the Flash/CF Interface
(i.e., make money with it!), then I'll figure out how to make it look
great...
that's really the easiest part.

The only questions now are:

1.  Is this an online course or will I have to travel to a class to attend?
2.  Is there a cost or is this free course?
3.  Got a time-frame for when the course will be ready? 1-3 months, 3-6
months?

Rick



-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 7:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


Ok, I'm told I can talk freely...

Folks, I've only looked at the first 6 units, but what I see so far I
love. It is a very NON ART Flash AS type class. All of the things I
learned were not things that required even the tiniest amount of
artistic ability. What I did learn was to use form type controls and
action script, which are things that are very useful for web
applications. This is like the DREAM class for tech geeks. It is
_exactly_ in line with what I want as a developer.

Oh - and as far as I can see - there is no tweening. ;)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 3:00 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


 Neil, let check and see what I can share. All I feel
 comfortable saying
 right now is that I am _extremely_ happy with what I've seen of the
 course - and I do not like 'art junk'. I'll get back with
 more info if I
 can.

 ==
 =
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 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  From: Neil Robertson-Ravo =TMM=
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:36 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book
 
 




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ColdFusion MX service won't start at boot

2002-09-30 Thread Aidan Whitehall

Tried to install CFMX on a fresh development box at home and hit
problems. Posted the following to the Macromedia Forums but haven't had
any response so far. Any ideas? TIA
===

The ColdFusion MX service isn't starting. I've read the numerous other
posts on this and have tried the steps below. I suspect the problem is
due to (6). Any ideas why the initial set up appears to have gone wrong
and (more importantly) how to fix it? TIA

System setup:
Completely fresh installation of Windows 2000 Professional, running IIS
5.0.
No Service Packs installed.
ColdFusion 5 not previously installed.
IIS works find, able to browse .html and .asp pages without problems.


(1) Opening the CFAdmin page displays a 500 Internal Server Error.

(2) Trying to start the ColdFusion MX service manually returned
Service-specific Error 2.

(3) I wiped the machine, did a complete reinstall and didn't install any
Service Packs (several threads suggest there are problems with W2K SP3
and CFMX). CFMX service still doesn't start.

(4) I altered the Recovery settings for the service to Restart the
Service for both first and second fail. Trying to start the service
returns the Service-specific Error 2 message.

(5) Confirmed that, as per Sean Corfield's blog at
http://www.corfield.org/blog/2002_07_01_archive.html
checked that jvm.config doesn't pass corrupt arguments and that the line
says:
# Arguments to VM
java.args=-DJINTEGRA_NATIVE_MODE -DJINTEGRA_PREFETCH_ENUMS -Xmx512m

(6) In Internet Services Manager | Home Directory | Configuration the
cfc, .cfm, .cfml and .jsp extensions are mapped to
  C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll
However, this path doesn't exist. The closest folder to the one
referenced is at
  C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\
which contains just two files, jrunwin32.dll and wsconfig.log. Should I
just change the mapping for the 4 extensions above to the
jrunwin32.dll file instead?

(7) Read the page To configure IIS for ColdFusion MX in Windows at
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/cfmxdocs/Installing_ColdFusion_MX/config
uring4.jsp#1118876
Running
 c:\cfusionmx\runtime\jre\bin\java -cp c:\cfusionmx\runtime\lib -jar
c:\cfusionmx\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar -ws IIS -site 0 -map
cfm,.cfc,.cfml,.jsp -v
from the command prompt returns
 os.name: Windows 2000
 os.version: 5.0
 os.arch: x86
 platform: intel-win
 web server: IIS
 File C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR
file
 C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted
 FindServers(): attempting connect to port 2901 on host 127.0.0.1
 Could not connect to any JRun servers on host localhost.
 Confirm that the JRun server is started.
The JRunScripts virtual directories weren't automatically created. Is
this because the initial installation went wrong? (although it appeared
to complete fine)

(8) Looked at Task Manager | Processes and jrun.exe is listed with a PID
of 488. Does that mean that JRun really is running? 


Referring URL 1: http://www.corfield.org/blog/2002_07_01_archive.html
Referring URL 2:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/cfmxdocs/Installing_ColdFusion_MX/config
uring4.jsp#1118876

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RE: ColdFusion MX service won't start at boot

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

Did you have a beta installed at some stage?  Check the registry for the
keys which start the services and verify they are pointing to the correct
folder for the CF services.

N

-Original Message-
From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 09:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ColdFusion MX service won't start at boot


Tried to install CFMX on a fresh development box at home and hit
problems. Posted the following to the Macromedia Forums but haven't had
any response so far. Any ideas? TIA
===

The ColdFusion MX service isn't starting. I've read the numerous other
posts on this and have tried the steps below. I suspect the problem is
due to (6). Any ideas why the initial set up appears to have gone wrong
and (more importantly) how to fix it? TIA

System setup:
Completely fresh installation of Windows 2000 Professional, running IIS
5.0.
No Service Packs installed.
ColdFusion 5 not previously installed.
IIS works find, able to browse .html and .asp pages without problems.


(1) Opening the CFAdmin page displays a 500 Internal Server Error.

(2) Trying to start the ColdFusion MX service manually returned
Service-specific Error 2.

(3) I wiped the machine, did a complete reinstall and didn't install any
Service Packs (several threads suggest there are problems with W2K SP3
and CFMX). CFMX service still doesn't start.

(4) I altered the Recovery settings for the service to Restart the
Service for both first and second fail. Trying to start the service
returns the Service-specific Error 2 message.

(5) Confirmed that, as per Sean Corfield's blog at
http://www.corfield.org/blog/2002_07_01_archive.html
checked that jvm.config doesn't pass corrupt arguments and that the line
says:
# Arguments to VM
java.args=-DJINTEGRA_NATIVE_MODE -DJINTEGRA_PREFETCH_ENUMS -Xmx512m

(6) In Internet Services Manager | Home Directory | Configuration the
cfc, .cfm, .cfml and .jsp extensions are mapped to
  C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll
However, this path doesn't exist. The closest folder to the one
referenced is at
  C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\
which contains just two files, jrunwin32.dll and wsconfig.log. Should I
just change the mapping for the 4 extensions above to the
jrunwin32.dll file instead?

(7) Read the page To configure IIS for ColdFusion MX in Windows at
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/cfmxdocs/Installing_ColdFusion_MX/config
uring4.jsp#1118876
Running
 c:\cfusionmx\runtime\jre\bin\java -cp c:\cfusionmx\runtime\lib -jar
c:\cfusionmx\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar -ws IIS -site 0 -map
cfm,.cfc,.cfml,.jsp -v
from the command prompt returns
 os.name: Windows 2000
 os.version: 5.0
 os.arch: x86
 platform: intel-win
 web server: IIS
 File C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR
file
 C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted
 FindServers(): attempting connect to port 2901 on host 127.0.0.1
 Could not connect to any JRun servers on host localhost.
 Confirm that the JRun server is started.
The JRunScripts virtual directories weren't automatically created. Is
this because the initial installation went wrong? (although it appeared
to complete fine)

(8) Looked at Task Manager | Processes and jrun.exe is listed with a PID
of 488. Does that mean that JRun really is running? 


Referring URL 1: http://www.corfield.org/blog/2002_07_01_archive.html
Referring URL 2:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/cfmxdocs/Installing_ColdFusion_MX/config
uring4.jsp#1118876

-- 
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Macromedia ColdFusion Developer
Fairbanks Environmental +44 (0)1695 51775



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RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...

2002-09-30 Thread Benoit Hediard

Sorry, I come back to the original thread problem : CFC scopes.
Here are some more details one CFCs scopes and UDFs.

When you excecute a CFMODULE, the only scopes still available in the
CFMODULE script are 'attributes' + request/url/form, so you have to
re-include UDF Lib.
Which means that UDF Lib scope (from the calling script) is not available in
a script executed by CFMODULE.

When you execute a CFC (or a custom tags), it should be the same.
The only scopes still available in the CFC script are 'arguments' +
request/url/form, but there is a problem : UDF Lib scope from the calling
script is still available in the CFC (???).
This is not logical.
CFC should not be able to access UDF Lib scope from the calling script, it
should behave like the CFMODULE.
UDF have by default the no prefix scope, so I thought they would behave
like no prefix variables.
(and if I want a UDF function during all my request, then I put it in the
request scope)

So for me, this is a bug (a non-consistent behaviour).
Don't you think?

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com

-Message d'origine-
De : Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : dimanche 29 septembre 2002 21:06
À : CF-Talk
Objet : RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...



 For what reason? I've jumped in mid-thread here, but I'm
 really keen to get
 some good nitty-gritty low-down on the pros/cons/appropriate
 contexts for
 custom tags/UDFs/CFCs.

 I've had access to CF5 for a while, but most of my clients
 have been stuck
 on CF4.5 hosts, so I've not really got into the habit of
 UDFs. Now MX and
 CFCs are here, I feel I should dive into the whole lot
 knowing the practical
 differences and arguments for each method.

 You mentioned typing the extra reference for CFCs (i.e.
 myCFC.isEmail(...)
 as opposed to isEmail() for a UDF). Beyond that - which is
 obviously down to
 the kind of personal preference that's not worth debating -
 why would a CFC
 set of methods as opposed to a UDF library be not bad per
 se, just maybe
 not appropriate? What's the not appropriate bit, in
 performance/architecture terms, not personal
 preference/coding style terms?


Dave mentioned a collection of UDFs called Math that would serve as a
library. On a _completely_
personal level (ie, not performance, security, etc), I tend to think the
methods of a CFC should be
more tightly coupled - ie, have more of a reason then being together
than just being mathematical.

As a purely personal preference - that is why I wouldn't think it's
appropriate. Yes, I know it's a very
wishy-washy response - but as I said, it's a personal feeling. Also,
with CFCs being such a new beast,
what makes sense now and what makes sense 3 years from now will most
likely be somewhat different.

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UDF Vs CFC (was RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...)

2002-09-30 Thread Benoit Hediard

I agree with you Raymond.
But it is true that is more personal preference/coding style terms than
performance/architecture terms.

This are my personal rules :
CUSTOM TAGS (ColdFusion Taglibs)
- custom tags encapsulates presentation logic they always output content
(usually HTML),
- custom tags usually do not call the model or controller layer,
- custom tags are only used by the presentation layer (page or pagelet
scripts).
 They are used for presentation logic encapsulation.

USER DEFINED FUNCTIONS (UDF)
- user defined functions encapsulate generic logic and rarely output content
(except for string formatting purposes),
- user defined functions do not call the model or controller layer,
- user defined functions are used in any layer (view, controller or model).
 They are used generic logic/function encapsulation.

COLDFUSION COMPONENTS (CFC)
- components encapsulate business/data access application logic and never
output content,
- components are called by the view layer only to read data,
- components are called by the controller layer to create/update/delete
data.
 They are used for business logic encapsulation.

.. I've put some examples here
http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/patterns/part3.htm

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com


-Message d'origine-
De : Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : dimanche 29 septembre 2002 21:06
À : CF-Talk
Objet : RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...



 For what reason? I've jumped in mid-thread here, but I'm
 really keen to get
 some good nitty-gritty low-down on the pros/cons/appropriate
 contexts for
 custom tags/UDFs/CFCs.

 I've had access to CF5 for a while, but most of my clients
 have been stuck
 on CF4.5 hosts, so I've not really got into the habit of
 UDFs. Now MX and
 CFCs are here, I feel I should dive into the whole lot
 knowing the practical
 differences and arguments for each method.

 You mentioned typing the extra reference for CFCs (i.e.
 myCFC.isEmail(...)
 as opposed to isEmail() for a UDF). Beyond that - which is
 obviously down to
 the kind of personal preference that's not worth debating -
 why would a CFC
 set of methods as opposed to a UDF library be not bad per
 se, just maybe
 not appropriate? What's the not appropriate bit, in
 performance/architecture terms, not personal
 preference/coding style terms?


Dave mentioned a collection of UDFs called Math that would serve as a
library. On a _completely_
personal level (ie, not performance, security, etc), I tend to think the
methods of a CFC should be
more tightly coupled - ie, have more of a reason then being together
than just being mathematical.

As a purely personal preference - that is why I wouldn't think it's
appropriate. Yes, I know it's a very
wishy-washy response - but as I said, it's a personal feeling. Also,
with CFCs being such a new beast,
what makes sense now and what makes sense 3 years from now will most
likely be somewhat different.

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RE: more cfstoredproc issues ...

2002-09-30 Thread Adrian Lynch

Whenever I right an SP I use..

CREATE PROCEDURE someSP

@somthing AS int,
@somethingelse AS varchar(50)

I don't know if not using the AS is ok or not but give it a go, see if it
fixes it

Ade

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 02:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: more cfstoredproc issues ... 


Argh!

I have a stored procedure with parameters as:

CREATE   PROCEDURE tap_adLibUpdate
@LibraryID int,
@Ident int,
@UpdatedDate datetime,
@PageFileName varchar(15) = NULL,
@ArchivePath varchar(15) = NULL,
@Scheduled bit = 0,
@RestoreID int = NULL,
@UpdateError varchar(8000) = NULL
AS

and I'm using this code in CF:

cfstoredproc procedure=tap_adLibUpdate datasource=#request.tap.dsn#
username=#request.tap.dsnusr# password=#request.tap.dsnpwd#
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=LibraryID
value=#variables.PageID#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=Ident value=#Request.User.ID#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=UpdatedDate
value=#CreateODBCDate(Now())# cfsqltype=cf_sql_timestamp
!--- indicates the file name for a top level container -- file
extension
may change although file name is consistent ---
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=PageFileName
value=#variables.tempfilename# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
null=#yesnoformat(not rspage.istoplevelcontainer)#
!--- archive path indicates where restoring content is being
restored from
--
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=ArchivePath
value=#variables.archivepath# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
null=#yesnoformat(not request.tap.archivecontent)#
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=Scheduled value=0
cfsqltype=cf_sql_bit
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=restoreid
value=#variables.restoreid#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
null=#yesnoformat(IsDate(attributes.RestoreFromDate))#
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=UpdateError
value=#variables.errormessage# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
cfprocresult name=rsupdate resultset=1
/cfstoredproc

and I'm getting this error:

[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Procedure 'tap_adLibUpdate'
expects parameter '@LibraryID', which was not supplied.

I know that the LibraryID parameter is defined in the cfprocparam tags. I
know that none of it was misspelled. I know that the value of
variables.PageID is an integer. What I don't know is why I'm getting an
error message that tells me exactly what the problem is not.

Anybody have any ideas?

Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

new epoch
www.turnkey.to
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RE: ColdFusion MX service won't start at boot

2002-09-30 Thread Aidan Whitehall

 Did you have a beta installed at some stage?  Check the registry for
the
 keys which start the services and verify they are pointing to the
correct
 folder for the CF services.

It was a *completely* fresh install of everything, starting with wiping
the partition and reformatting with NTFS. After having installed Windows
2000 Professional, I installed IIS, then CFMX.

Thanks for the reply, Neil. Can you read the following (taken from the
original post) - I think it's the most likely reason for the problem:


 (6) In Internet Services Manager | Home Directory | Configuration the
 cfc, .cfm, .cfml and .jsp extensions are mapped to
   C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll
 However, this path doesn't exist. The closest folder to the one
 referenced is at
   C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\
 which contains just two files, jrunwin32.dll and wsconfig.log. Should
I
 just change the mapping for the 4 extensions above to the
 jrunwin32.dll file instead?


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RE: ColdFusion MX service won't start at boot

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

Yep, that is more than likely your problem.  I know there are some issued
with the installer as well.  it may be worth swinging my MM.com to check it
this is a documented one.

N

-Original Message-
From: Aidan Whitehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 11:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX service won't start at boot


 Did you have a beta installed at some stage?  Check the registry for
the
 keys which start the services and verify they are pointing to the
correct
 folder for the CF services.

It was a *completely* fresh install of everything, starting with wiping
the partition and reformatting with NTFS. After having installed Windows
2000 Professional, I installed IIS, then CFMX.

Thanks for the reply, Neil. Can you read the following (taken from the
original post) - I think it's the most likely reason for the problem:


 (6) In Internet Services Manager | Home Directory | Configuration the
 cfc, .cfm, .cfml and .jsp extensions are mapped to
   C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll
 However, this path doesn't exist. The closest folder to the one
 referenced is at
   C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\
 which contains just two files, jrunwin32.dll and wsconfig.log. Should
I
 just change the mapping for the 4 extensions above to the
 jrunwin32.dll file instead?


-- 
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Macromedia ColdFusion Developer
Fairbanks Environmental +44 (0)1695 51775



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RE: more cfstoredproc issues ...

2002-09-30 Thread Adams, Stephen

**
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YOu can comment out the call to the stored procedure and then output all the
variables you are passing, then use a CFABORT to stop the page this way
you'll be sure the correct variables are being passed. Or for testing
purposes hard-code a value in the LibraryID cfprocparam tag, if it does get
passed in correctly then you will know that the problem is the stored
procedure and not your CF.



-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 02:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: more cfstoredproc issues ... 


Argh!

I have a stored procedure with parameters as:

CREATE   PROCEDURE tap_adLibUpdate
@LibraryID int,
@Ident int,
@UpdatedDate datetime,
@PageFileName varchar(15) = NULL,
@ArchivePath varchar(15) = NULL,
@Scheduled bit = 0,
@RestoreID int = NULL,
@UpdateError varchar(8000) = NULL
AS

and I'm using this code in CF:

cfstoredproc procedure=tap_adLibUpdate datasource=#request.tap.dsn#
username=#request.tap.dsnusr# password=#request.tap.dsnpwd#
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=LibraryID
value=#variables.PageID#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=Ident value=#Request.User.ID#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=UpdatedDate
value=#CreateODBCDate(Now())# cfsqltype=cf_sql_timestamp
!--- indicates the file name for a top level container -- file
extension
may change although file name is consistent ---
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=PageFileName
value=#variables.tempfilename# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
null=#yesnoformat(not rspage.istoplevelcontainer)#
!--- archive path indicates where restoring content is being
restored from
--
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=ArchivePath
value=#variables.archivepath# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
null=#yesnoformat(not request.tap.archivecontent)#
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=Scheduled value=0
cfsqltype=cf_sql_bit
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=restoreid
value=#variables.restoreid#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
null=#yesnoformat(IsDate(attributes.RestoreFromDate))#
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=UpdateError
value=#variables.errormessage# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
cfprocresult name=rsupdate resultset=1
/cfstoredproc

and I'm getting this error:

[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Procedure 'tap_adLibUpdate'
expects parameter '@LibraryID', which was not supplied.

I know that the LibraryID parameter is defined in the cfprocparam tags. I
know that none of it was misspelled. I know that the value of
variables.PageID is an integer. What I don't know is why I'm getting an
error message that tells me exactly what the problem is not.

Anybody have any ideas?

Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

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RE: Ben's J2EE Book

2002-09-30 Thread Rick Faircloth

I guess it depends on what experience your bring to Flash as to what
is easy and what is hard.  I've been doing digital video production for
years,
which involves creating timeline-based graphics animation, as well as some
3-D animation, so graphics creation is more natural for me.

When I first looked at Flash years ago, as a possible tool for
graphics/animation,
I thought it was an interesting tool, but lacked a place in my sphere of
work where
the effort required to produce the animation would be worth it.  I have no
doubt that
I can produce satisfactory Flash from a graphics perspective, but I'm more
interested
in its use as a single-page application interface.  Designing the interface,
for me, really
is the simple part.  The problem is, all I bring to Flash ActionScript is
Cold Fusion
programming knowledge, and I'm not finding the experience with one helpful
with the other.

When I started CF, I had some great tutorials that introduced me to it, but
with Flash AS,
I haven't found the tutorials that have helped me put it all together,
yet.

Sounds like MM is getting ready to address those like me who need some AS
help,
similar to their built-in tutorials for the animation that come with the
Flash program.
Just a few basic lessons and tutorials like those in the Flash Help menu
would go a long
way.  It's just frustrating for the tutorials to come in the form of here's
a sample app you
can study and learn how to use AS scripting.

I'm just looking for a tutorial to walk me through getting some info, say
typical calendar info,
like date, time, event, location, description, whatever, in and out of a
flash movie.  I can't understand
the Flash AS just by looking at it.  That's no way for a novice to learn.
And I don't want to study
everything there is to know about AS before I even make a decision as to
whether or not Flash MX
is worth the investment of time and money...

As to producing the same old crap, I'm not looking to rock the world
with new creative genius,
I just want a new way to build business apps for my clients that are easier
for them to use,
and therefore easier to sell.  Most of my clients wouldn't care if the Flash
movie had a white background
and no animation, as long as they didn't have to jump around everywhere on
HTML pages to allow
processing of information.  Flash is trying to become a tool for
functionality, as opposed to visual creativity.
I don't that think that people would buy more pets just because the Pet
Market presentation includes moving
graphics.  It's the one-page shopping/purchasing that would intrigue
customers.

Flash has great potential for use in my work, but not if I can't figure out
how to use it...

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


I totally disagree.. getting it 'connected' is the easy part.  The actual
movement and animation (for which Flash is designed) is the difficult part.
Flash is one of those progs which you need to be [a] a good designer [b] a
good animator.  If you are neither then stay clear of Flash or you will just
be producing the same old crap.

I think a proper 'Spectrum of Participants' :-) is required for these Rich
Client movies as one single CF developer aint gonna blow things out of the
water with poor Flash skills and a little DB connectivity.

Flash is an animation/loose design tool
CF is a Server Scripting Environment

The divide is huge.

N

Though I would love to see someones reaction to this course who is a
complete novice to Flash scripting etc..






-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 04:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


Hi, Raymond.

Thanks for the news.  Sounds perfect.
Once I figure out that I can program the Flash/CF Interface
(i.e., make money with it!), then I'll figure out how to make it look
great...
that's really the easiest part.

The only questions now are:

1.  Is this an online course or will I have to travel to a class to attend?
2.  Is there a cost or is this free course?
3.  Got a time-frame for when the course will be ready? 1-3 months, 3-6
months?

Rick



-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 7:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


Ok, I'm told I can talk freely...

Folks, I've only looked at the first 6 units, but what I see so far I
love. It is a very NON ART Flash AS type class. All of the things I
learned were not things that required even the tiniest amount of
artistic ability. What I did learn was to use form type controls and
action script, which are things that are very useful for web
applications. This is like the DREAM class for tech geeks. It is
_exactly_ in line with what I want as a developer.

Oh - and as far as I can see - there is no tweening. ;)


RE: more cfstoredproc issues ...

2002-09-30 Thread Joshua Tipton

I do not know if this may be the underlying cause of the error but I do know
that if sql is your database you cannot use timestamp as the datatype  when
you are passing in a date time field.  It has to be CF_SQL_DATE.  There was
a disscusion about this on here last week but I think the person having the
problem was using CFMX and M$SQL.  Hope this helps you out and that I didnt
misunderstand that whole think last week.

Josh

-Original Message-
From: Adams, Stephen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 7:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: more cfstoredproc issues ...


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Please refer to the disclaimer beneath this message
**

YOu can comment out the call to the stored procedure and then output all the
variables you are passing, then use a CFABORT to stop the page this way
you'll be sure the correct variables are being passed. Or for testing
purposes hard-code a value in the LibraryID cfprocparam tag, if it does get
passed in correctly then you will know that the problem is the stored
procedure and not your CF.



-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 02:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: more cfstoredproc issues ...


Argh!

I have a stored procedure with parameters as:

CREATE   PROCEDURE tap_adLibUpdate
@LibraryID int,
@Ident int,
@UpdatedDate datetime,
@PageFileName varchar(15) = NULL,
@ArchivePath varchar(15) = NULL,
@Scheduled bit = 0,
@RestoreID int = NULL,
@UpdateError varchar(8000) = NULL
AS

and I'm using this code in CF:

cfstoredproc procedure=tap_adLibUpdate datasource=#request.tap.dsn#
username=#request.tap.dsnusr# password=#request.tap.dsnpwd#
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=LibraryID
value=#variables.PageID#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=Ident value=#Request.User.ID#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=UpdatedDate
value=#CreateODBCDate(Now())# cfsqltype=cf_sql_timestamp
!--- indicates the file name for a top level container -- file
extension
may change although file name is consistent ---
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=PageFileName
value=#variables.tempfilename# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
null=#yesnoformat(not rspage.istoplevelcontainer)#
!--- archive path indicates where restoring content is being
restored from
--
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=ArchivePath
value=#variables.archivepath# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
null=#yesnoformat(not request.tap.archivecontent)#
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=Scheduled value=0
cfsqltype=cf_sql_bit
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=restoreid
value=#variables.restoreid#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
null=#yesnoformat(IsDate(attributes.RestoreFromDate))#
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=UpdateError
value=#variables.errormessage# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
cfprocresult name=rsupdate resultset=1
/cfstoredproc

and I'm getting this error:

[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Procedure 'tap_adLibUpdate'
expects parameter '@LibraryID', which was not supplied.

I know that the LibraryID parameter is defined in the cfprocparam tags. I
know that none of it was misspelled. I know that the value of
variables.PageID is an integer. What I don't know is why I'm getting an
error message that tells me exactly what the problem is not.

Anybody have any ideas?

Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

new epoch
www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046



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RE: Ben's J2EE Book

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

I can relate to what you state but if all you are looking for is to create
new business models and rich clients via a Flash UI then maybe a different
approach is in order from MM.  It seems a little overkill to use an
expensive app which has a certain purpose for something so trivial.

if you are only going to use 2% of Flash it seems a waste... and I think
alot of CF'ers are in the same boat.   I myself prefer Lingo for good
animation stuff...its a lot more powerful IMHO.

N



-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 12:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


I guess it depends on what experience your bring to Flash as to what
is easy and what is hard.  I've been doing digital video production for
years,
which involves creating timeline-based graphics animation, as well as some
3-D animation, so graphics creation is more natural for me.

When I first looked at Flash years ago, as a possible tool for
graphics/animation,
I thought it was an interesting tool, but lacked a place in my sphere of
work where
the effort required to produce the animation would be worth it.  I have no
doubt that
I can produce satisfactory Flash from a graphics perspective, but I'm more
interested
in its use as a single-page application interface.  Designing the interface,
for me, really
is the simple part.  The problem is, all I bring to Flash ActionScript is
Cold Fusion
programming knowledge, and I'm not finding the experience with one helpful
with the other.

When I started CF, I had some great tutorials that introduced me to it, but
with Flash AS,
I haven't found the tutorials that have helped me put it all together,
yet.

Sounds like MM is getting ready to address those like me who need some AS
help,
similar to their built-in tutorials for the animation that come with the
Flash program.
Just a few basic lessons and tutorials like those in the Flash Help menu
would go a long
way.  It's just frustrating for the tutorials to come in the form of here's
a sample app you
can study and learn how to use AS scripting.

I'm just looking for a tutorial to walk me through getting some info, say
typical calendar info,
like date, time, event, location, description, whatever, in and out of a
flash movie.  I can't understand
the Flash AS just by looking at it.  That's no way for a novice to learn.
And I don't want to study
everything there is to know about AS before I even make a decision as to
whether or not Flash MX
is worth the investment of time and money...

As to producing the same old crap, I'm not looking to rock the world
with new creative genius,
I just want a new way to build business apps for my clients that are easier
for them to use,
and therefore easier to sell.  Most of my clients wouldn't care if the Flash
movie had a white background
and no animation, as long as they didn't have to jump around everywhere on
HTML pages to allow
processing of information.  Flash is trying to become a tool for
functionality, as opposed to visual creativity.
I don't that think that people would buy more pets just because the Pet
Market presentation includes moving
graphics.  It's the one-page shopping/purchasing that would intrigue
customers.

Flash has great potential for use in my work, but not if I can't figure out
how to use it...

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


I totally disagree.. getting it 'connected' is the easy part.  The actual
movement and animation (for which Flash is designed) is the difficult part.
Flash is one of those progs which you need to be [a] a good designer [b] a
good animator.  If you are neither then stay clear of Flash or you will just
be producing the same old crap.

I think a proper 'Spectrum of Participants' :-) is required for these Rich
Client movies as one single CF developer aint gonna blow things out of the
water with poor Flash skills and a little DB connectivity.

Flash is an animation/loose design tool
CF is a Server Scripting Environment

The divide is huge.

N

Though I would love to see someones reaction to this course who is a
complete novice to Flash scripting etc..






-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 04:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


Hi, Raymond.

Thanks for the news.  Sounds perfect.
Once I figure out that I can program the Flash/CF Interface
(i.e., make money with it!), then I'll figure out how to make it look
great...
that's really the easiest part.

The only questions now are:

1.  Is this an online course or will I have to travel to a class to attend?
2.  Is there a cost or is this free course?
3.  Got a time-frame for when the course will be ready? 1-3 months, 3-6
months?

Rick



-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 7:51 PM
To: 

Re: UDF Vs CFC (was RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...)

2002-09-30 Thread Gyrus

Benoit, thanks for the summary of your rules-of-thumb for CF modularisation.
I'll check out your site later. For now, could you clear up some terminology
for this no-CS-background designer-turned-coder? ;-)

I can hazard good guesses, but what do you mean by view, controller and
model layers?

Also, I know the idea of business rules from relational DB design - am I
right in saying you're using business logic here in a similar sense, to
apply to the CF application? That is, it refers to procedures and functions
mostly specific to the current application?

If this is so, am I right in saying that, given your personal rules,
cflib.org for sharing UDFs is useful, but cfczone.org for sharing CFC's is
less useful? I know it's fine to use CFC's for generic functions and
cfczone.org will probably become as useful as cflib.org, I'm just trying to
gauge the meaning of your rules with this analogy. If you use CFCs for
business logic encapsulation, they may not be very portable - unless I'm
taking the term business logic in a too narrow sense.

- Gyrus


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- Original Message -
From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:26 AM
Subject: UDF Vs CFC (was RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...)


 I agree with you Raymond.
 But it is true that is more personal preference/coding style terms than
 performance/architecture terms.

 This are my personal rules :
 CUSTOM TAGS (ColdFusion Taglibs)
 - custom tags encapsulates presentation logic they always output content
 (usually HTML),
 - custom tags usually do not call the model or controller layer,
 - custom tags are only used by the presentation layer (page or pagelet
 scripts).
  They are used for presentation logic encapsulation.

 USER DEFINED FUNCTIONS (UDF)
 - user defined functions encapsulate generic logic and rarely output
content
 (except for string formatting purposes),
 - user defined functions do not call the model or controller layer,
 - user defined functions are used in any layer (view, controller or
model).
  They are used generic logic/function encapsulation.

 COLDFUSION COMPONENTS (CFC)
 - components encapsulate business/data access application logic and never
 output content,
 - components are called by the view layer only to read data,
 - components are called by the controller layer to create/update/delete
 data.
  They are used for business logic encapsulation.

 .. I've put some examples here
 http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/patterns/part3.htm

 Benoit Hediard
 www.benorama.com

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RE: Ben's J2EE Book

2002-09-30 Thread Rick Faircloth

I guess that exactly where I'm coming from.
I have little interest in Flash's animation capability.
But my browser/Internet-based application customers
have expressed confusion when I try to convert them from
software applications which utilize basically a one-page
interface to multiple-page processing with HTML-CF apps.
It's a little disconcerting for them to jump around.

With a tool that would allow the basics of add, view,
update, delete info using a single interface, I'd have a much
easier time convincing clients to allow me to build browser-based,
Internet-connected apps for as opposed to using multiple pieces
of software and manual work to accomplish their business tasks.
Many of them want their information accessible by the public on the
Internet anyway, so it's a perfect match.

For me, it's that 2% of new Flash information processing ability that
will make it worth the price and effort, not it's animation producing
ability.
I'd be interested in it, even if it wouldn't animate at all.  That's why
I've spent
the last several years saying No to Flash until Flash database
connectivity came along...

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 7:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


I can relate to what you state but if all you are looking for is to create
new business models and rich clients via a Flash UI then maybe a different
approach is in order from MM.  It seems a little overkill to use an
expensive app which has a certain purpose for something so trivial.

if you are only going to use 2% of Flash it seems a waste... and I think
alot of CF'ers are in the same boat.   I myself prefer Lingo for good
animation stuff...its a lot more powerful IMHO.

N



-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 12:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


I guess it depends on what experience your bring to Flash as to what
is easy and what is hard.  I've been doing digital video production for
years,
which involves creating timeline-based graphics animation, as well as some
3-D animation, so graphics creation is more natural for me.

When I first looked at Flash years ago, as a possible tool for
graphics/animation,
I thought it was an interesting tool, but lacked a place in my sphere of
work where
the effort required to produce the animation would be worth it.  I have no
doubt that
I can produce satisfactory Flash from a graphics perspective, but I'm more
interested
in its use as a single-page application interface.  Designing the interface,
for me, really
is the simple part.  The problem is, all I bring to Flash ActionScript is
Cold Fusion
programming knowledge, and I'm not finding the experience with one helpful
with the other.

When I started CF, I had some great tutorials that introduced me to it, but
with Flash AS,
I haven't found the tutorials that have helped me put it all together,
yet.

Sounds like MM is getting ready to address those like me who need some AS
help,
similar to their built-in tutorials for the animation that come with the
Flash program.
Just a few basic lessons and tutorials like those in the Flash Help menu
would go a long
way.  It's just frustrating for the tutorials to come in the form of here's
a sample app you
can study and learn how to use AS scripting.

I'm just looking for a tutorial to walk me through getting some info, say
typical calendar info,
like date, time, event, location, description, whatever, in and out of a
flash movie.  I can't understand
the Flash AS just by looking at it.  That's no way for a novice to learn.
And I don't want to study
everything there is to know about AS before I even make a decision as to
whether or not Flash MX
is worth the investment of time and money...

As to producing the same old crap, I'm not looking to rock the world
with new creative genius,
I just want a new way to build business apps for my clients that are easier
for them to use,
and therefore easier to sell.  Most of my clients wouldn't care if the Flash
movie had a white background
and no animation, as long as they didn't have to jump around everywhere on
HTML pages to allow
processing of information.  Flash is trying to become a tool for
functionality, as opposed to visual creativity.
I don't that think that people would buy more pets just because the Pet
Market presentation includes moving
graphics.  It's the one-page shopping/purchasing that would intrigue
customers.

Flash has great potential for use in my work, but not if I can't figure out
how to use it...

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book


I totally disagree.. getting it 'connected' is the easy part.  The actual
movement and animation (for which Flash is designed) is the difficult part.
Flash is one of those progs which you need to be 

Re: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX

2002-09-30 Thread Nick de Voil

OK, I RTFM'ed and in Developing ColdFusion MX Applications with CFML I
find this:

THESAURUS Expands the search to include the word that you enter and its
synonyms. Collections do not have a thesaurus by default; to use this
feature you must build one.

SOUNDEX Expands the search to include the word that you enter and one or
more words that sound like, or whose letter pattern is similar to, the
word specified. Collections do not have sound-alike indexes by default; to
use this feature you must build sound-alike indexes.

What I don't see anywhere is - just how do I build a thesaurus or a
sound-alike index?

Thanks

Nick

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RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX

2002-09-30 Thread Raymond Camden

They are available - you don't need to do anything special to use them -
you just use them. (Although I believe you have to use type=explicit
in your cfsearch tag.) I'm not sure what the cost to performance is -
most likely more than a simple search, but probably not bad.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX
 
 
 I'm looking at this Verity doc
 
 http://www.verity.com/pdf/white_papers/MK0348a_Discovery_WP.pdf
 
 and I like the look of the THESAURUS, TYPO and SOUNDEX 
 evidence operators.
 
 Are these available via CF? If not, what do I have to do to 
 get them and
 what does it cost?


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Retry - Extracting filename of cfchart generated jpg

2002-09-30 Thread Dave Wilson

Hi all,

I asked this last week with no response so thought I'd give it another go.

Does anyone know if there is a way of determining the filename of a
dynamically generated chart using cfchart (programmatically of course).
Basically I've set cfchart to cache to disk and want to be able to capture
the file in order to copy it to an user's personal directory if they chose
to save the chart for later use (in writing custom reports).

I've already figured a roundabout workaround involving cfhttp parsing the
page for the filename. Ideally I'd like to simply extract the filename at
initial runtim of cfchart.

any help appreciated,
Dave

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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Raymond Camden

FYI, info from the course outline. This MAY change before the course is
actually released...


Developing Rich Internet Applications with Macromedia Flash and
ColdFusion MX  is a 3-day class designed to teach experienced ColdFusion
developers how to create powerful internet applications that take
advantage of the flexibility of Flash MX, the ease of connectivity of
Flash Remoting and the data manipulation power of ColdFusion MX.   It is
a task-based course that introduces the student to creating rich
interfaces using pre-build components in Flash that manipulate dynamic
data received from ColdFusion 

Unit 1:  Introducing the Course
Unit 2: Introducing the Macromedia Flash MX Interface
Unit 3: ActionScript Fundamentals
Unit 4: Working with Flash MX UI Components
Unit 5. Creating Web Services with ColdFusion Components
Unit 6: Using Flash Remoting to Retrieve Dynamic Data
Unit 7: Using the DataGrid Component
Unit 8: Persisting Data on Client and Server
Unit 9: Working with Movie Clips in Flash
Unit 10: Reusability: Creating MovieClips from Groups of Elements

p.s. I can confirm that it's very task based. Again, there isn't any
crap like, Use this nice shade of red in the background to match the
colour of the setting sun. It's very focused on things that can apply
to a web application.

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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

Thanks Ray,

this does seem to be quite extensive and does teach the fundamentals of
Flash as well... excellent.   

It does miss the point of Animation, but I suppose its out of scope.

- Neil

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 13:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


FYI, info from the course outline. This MAY change before the course is
actually released...


Developing Rich Internet Applications with Macromedia Flash and
ColdFusion MX  is a 3-day class designed to teach experienced ColdFusion
developers how to create powerful internet applications that take
advantage of the flexibility of Flash MX, the ease of connectivity of
Flash Remoting and the data manipulation power of ColdFusion MX.   It is
a task-based course that introduces the student to creating rich
interfaces using pre-build components in Flash that manipulate dynamic
data received from ColdFusion 

Unit 1:  Introducing the Course
Unit 2: Introducing the Macromedia Flash MX Interface
Unit 3: ActionScript Fundamentals
Unit 4: Working with Flash MX UI Components
Unit 5. Creating Web Services with ColdFusion Components
Unit 6: Using Flash Remoting to Retrieve Dynamic Data
Unit 7: Using the DataGrid Component
Unit 8: Persisting Data on Client and Server
Unit 9: Working with Movie Clips in Flash
Unit 10: Reusability: Creating MovieClips from Groups of Elements

p.s. I can confirm that it's very task based. Again, there isn't any
crap like, Use this nice shade of red in the background to match the
colour of the setting sun. It's very focused on things that can apply
to a web application.

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RE: CFMAIL problems

2002-09-30 Thread Everett, Al

Did you check to see if any of their customers are in the database twice?

 -Original Message-
 From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:24 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFMAIL problems
 
 
 A client is reporting a problem where PDF bulletins being 
 mailed out are
 being delivered twice to some of their customers. I'm still 
 trying to get to
 the root of the problem - which I can't replicate on my local 
 test system -
 but I thought I'd ask: if I can't find any obvious code 
 problems (and I
 can't so far), what are the possibilities?
 
 They're running CF 4.5 SP2 on a Solaris box, their mailing 
 list runs to only
 around 160 people, and the PDF attachments are are 150KB. 
 Could this just be
 a CFMAIL limitation problem? I know it isn't that robust, and 
 that upgrading
 to MX or getting something like iMS was going to be a 
 possible necessity as
 the list expanded, but I didn't expect it to choke on this 
 small volume.
 
 Obviously I want to guage the situation well before being 
 confident it's not
 a code problem, and recommend that the client splash out more money!
 
 TIA,
 
 - Gyrus
 
 
 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 work: http://www.tengai.co.uk
 play: http://www.norlonto.net
 - PGP key available
 
 
 
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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Raymond Camden

Thing is - I can't imagine when I'd want to use animation when
developing Flash apps for web components. Maybe my view is too limited -
but I see myself using simple components and forms 99% of the time. I
can't imagine needing something flying across the screen. That's for the
black beret wearing art freaks. (And yes, I'm JUST joking. ;)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:57 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR
 
 
 Thanks Ray,
 
 this does seem to be quite extensive and does teach the 
 fundamentals of
 Flash as well... excellent.   
 
 It does miss the point of Animation, but I suppose its out of scope.
 
 - Neil
 


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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Candace Cottrell

rofl @ beret wearing art freaks...

When this class comes out, I am definitely THERE. Simon, is Branden
Hall teaching this one? Or is the info still fairly limited ?

TIA

Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
937-641-4293 
http://www.childrensdayton.org

 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/30/2002 9:02:31 AM 
Thing is - I can't imagine when I'd want to use animation when
developing Flash apps for web components. Maybe my view is too limited
-
but I see myself using simple components and forms 99% of the time. I
can't imagine needing something flying across the screen. That's for
the
black beret wearing art freaks. (And yes, I'm JUST joking. ;)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:57 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR
 
 
 Thanks Ray,
 
 this does seem to be quite extensive and does teach the 
 fundamentals of
 Flash as well... excellent.   
 
 It does miss the point of Animation, but I suppose its out of scope.
 
 - Neil
 



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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

True, True, but maybe MM should have built or released an app / tool just
for this purpose.  It doesnt make sense to use an app like Flash for
something so trivial, when HTML would suffice.  

Surely thats the gain?  If you use Flash you get all the bells and whistles
which eludes HTML etc

There is no logic in just using it for the sake of using it (and because you
can!).  If you are going to use it then use ir properly.  Its like buying CF
and only using it to output Hello World! on a page.

N

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 14:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


Thing is - I can't imagine when I'd want to use animation when
developing Flash apps for web components. Maybe my view is too limited -
but I see myself using simple components and forms 99% of the time. I
can't imagine needing something flying across the screen. That's for the
black beret wearing art freaks. (And yes, I'm JUST joking. ;)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:57 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR
 
 
 Thanks Ray,
 
 this does seem to be quite extensive and does teach the 
 fundamentals of
 Flash as well... excellent.   
 
 It does miss the point of Animation, but I suppose its out of scope.
 
 - Neil
 



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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Rick Faircloth

Hi, Ray, and thanks for the info.

Sounds like MM is address the potential that Flash has for
revolutionizing the way Internet-based apps are developed.
It will really bridge the gap between software-based apps and
browser-based apps.  From my view...forget the animation.
Keeping the complication of animation inside, and requiring
the continued use of the timeline interface will continue to drive
away potential app builders.  (Maybe a version that moves away
from the timeline perspective, and focuses on app pages, instead?)

I'm glad to see this is coming, but really wish that the info was
available online for me to work through on my own.  I like to learn
things on my own, at my pace and time, instead of having to go to
the time and expense of attending a class.  (Some of us are *very small*
businesses without the couple thousand needed to attend a class)
Besides, the materials that class attenders will take away from the class
will probably be sufficient for self-study, anyway.  (Some people are never
satisfied, huh?)

How can it be in this age of information on the 'Net that MM, which promotes
tools to be used in creating online training, is still selling travel and
attend
classes???  Turn them into online tutorials, charge for them (less, I hope),
and turn the info loose!

I do understand, however, that training is another
profit-channel for MM, just like books for Ben...  ;o)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


FYI, info from the course outline. This MAY change before the course is
actually released...


Developing Rich Internet Applications with Macromedia Flash and
ColdFusion MX  is a 3-day class designed to teach experienced ColdFusion
developers how to create powerful internet applications that take
advantage of the flexibility of Flash MX, the ease of connectivity of
Flash Remoting and the data manipulation power of ColdFusion MX.   It is
a task-based course that introduces the student to creating rich
interfaces using pre-build components in Flash that manipulate dynamic
data received from ColdFusion

Unit 1:  Introducing the Course
Unit 2: Introducing the Macromedia Flash MX Interface
Unit 3: ActionScript Fundamentals
Unit 4: Working with Flash MX UI Components
Unit 5. Creating Web Services with ColdFusion Components
Unit 6: Using Flash Remoting to Retrieve Dynamic Data
Unit 7: Using the DataGrid Component
Unit 8: Persisting Data on Client and Server
Unit 9: Working with Movie Clips in Flash
Unit 10: Reusability: Creating MovieClips from Groups of Elements

p.s. I can confirm that it's very task based. Again, there isn't any
crap like, Use this nice shade of red in the background to match the
colour of the setting sun. It's very focused on things that can apply
to a web application.

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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

I'm glad to see this is coming, but really wish that the info was
available online for me to work through on my own

here herethis is crucial.

N

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 14:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


Hi, Ray, and thanks for the info.

Sounds like MM is address the potential that Flash has for
revolutionizing the way Internet-based apps are developed.
It will really bridge the gap between software-based apps and
browser-based apps.  From my view...forget the animation.
Keeping the complication of animation inside, and requiring
the continued use of the timeline interface will continue to drive
away potential app builders.  (Maybe a version that moves away
from the timeline perspective, and focuses on app pages, instead?)

I'm glad to see this is coming, but really wish that the info was
available online for me to work through on my own.  I like to learn
things on my own, at my pace and time, instead of having to go to
the time and expense of attending a class.  (Some of us are *very small*
businesses without the couple thousand needed to attend a class)
Besides, the materials that class attenders will take away from the class
will probably be sufficient for self-study, anyway.  (Some people are never
satisfied, huh?)

How can it be in this age of information on the 'Net that MM, which promotes
tools to be used in creating online training, is still selling travel and
attend
classes???  Turn them into online tutorials, charge for them (less, I hope),
and turn the info loose!

I do understand, however, that training is another
profit-channel for MM, just like books for Ben...  ;o)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


FYI, info from the course outline. This MAY change before the course is
actually released...


Developing Rich Internet Applications with Macromedia Flash and
ColdFusion MX  is a 3-day class designed to teach experienced ColdFusion
developers how to create powerful internet applications that take
advantage of the flexibility of Flash MX, the ease of connectivity of
Flash Remoting and the data manipulation power of ColdFusion MX.   It is
a task-based course that introduces the student to creating rich
interfaces using pre-build components in Flash that manipulate dynamic
data received from ColdFusion

Unit 1:  Introducing the Course
Unit 2: Introducing the Macromedia Flash MX Interface
Unit 3: ActionScript Fundamentals
Unit 4: Working with Flash MX UI Components
Unit 5. Creating Web Services with ColdFusion Components
Unit 6: Using Flash Remoting to Retrieve Dynamic Data
Unit 7: Using the DataGrid Component
Unit 8: Persisting Data on Client and Server
Unit 9: Working with Movie Clips in Flash
Unit 10: Reusability: Creating MovieClips from Groups of Elements

p.s. I can confirm that it's very task based. Again, there isn't any
crap like, Use this nice shade of red in the background to match the
colour of the setting sun. It's very focused on things that can apply
to a web application.

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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Rick Faircloth

I agree, Ray - I've had no use for Flash, even though I appreciate
some of the animation it's produced.  It's been an interesting
*diversion* from the best uses of the Internet, and it's current
use on the 'Net testifies to that perspective.  It's basically an
advertiser's tool...and advertisers are always looking for anything
different to try to attract attention.

But for the main work of the Internet, presenting and manipulating
data, it's had no place.  I beleive apps should look good, but
Flash is just overkill for creating asthetically appealing sites.
Most clients aren't interesting in paying for that kind of eye-candy.

My work would be like yours, a few reusable graphics templates,
basic components and forms, and I'm working 99% of the time.
Probably never use any animation...Same reason I never use
DHTML to make a photo fly onto the screen instead of just having
it appear...

Thanks for your interest in making Flash MX, especially AS,
accessible to the unwashed masses.

Rick



-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


Thing is - I can't imagine when I'd want to use animation when
developing Flash apps for web components. Maybe my view is too limited -
but I see myself using simple components and forms 99% of the time. I
can't imagine needing something flying across the screen. That's for the
black beret wearing art freaks. (And yes, I'm JUST joking. ;)

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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo IM : morpheus

My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:57 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


 Thanks Ray,

 this does seem to be quite extensive and does teach the
 fundamentals of
 Flash as well... excellent.

 It does miss the point of Animation, but I suppose its out of scope.

 - Neil




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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Raymond Camden

Trivial? Have you used DHTML lately? (grin). There are many things that
Flash can do that one could do in DHTML - however the fact that you have
99% less cross-platform headaches would make even simple stuff better in
Flash I think. I think Flash has more bells and whistles than just
animation. Certainly being able to tie in remoting to a flash app, even
one that is a simple form, adds a level of sophistication that you can't
get in DHTML. I know you can do server pings with DHTML, but this is
normally done via IFRAME, layer hacks.

I'm not a Flash guru, so I'll stop there. Maybe I'll never use Flash to
it's full potential - but I can say I'd _much_ rather use Flash now that
I've got a good handle on it. All the books I've seen in the past tried
to make me learn the animation crap that I'll just never have a use for.
The course focused on things that made me see that I really can use
Flash in my apps - right now.

P.S. Yes, I work for Macromedia (well, not for much longer), so I'm
probably biased. I just want people here to know that I'm not just
saying this because I work for the company. I really have gained a
_much_ bigger appreciation for what Flash can do for me as a 'coder
geek'. If anyone thinks its out of place for a MACR employee to tout
Flash... well... sorry. ;)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:09 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR
 
 
 True, True, but maybe MM should have built or released an app 
 / tool just
 for this purpose.  It doesnt make sense to use an app like Flash for
 something so trivial, when HTML would suffice.  
 
 Surely thats the gain?  If you use Flash you get all the 
 bells and whistles
 which eludes HTML etc
 
 There is no logic in just using it for the sake of using it 
 (and because you
 can!).  If you are going to use it then use ir properly.  Its 
 like buying CF
 and only using it to output Hello World! on a page.
 
 N
 


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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Raymond Camden

 Thanks for your interest in making Flash MX, especially AS,
 accessible to the unwashed masses.

Well, I certainly can't take credit for any of this. There are some very
good people in our education department. In this case they wrote
something that is EXTREMELY dead on for the coders. Sorry if I sound
like a fan-boy or marketer, I just can't stop raving about this new
class. I would recommend it to anyone.

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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

C'mon! :-)  you really cant be serious?  you are trying to compare Flash to
DHTML?!  Flash is an infinitely superior in everyway !!!

I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it linking to a DB
for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML and no I am not
anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the business benefit
(development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
developed in normal HTML.

What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of Participants'
(sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running.  It is a complex
combination of designers/aniimators and developers to get things working in
any decent shape or formhas this been defined?  I have seen some docs,
but I have not read 100% into them as of yet so I am open for more pointers.

N

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 14:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


Trivial? Have you used DHTML lately? (grin). There are many things that
Flash can do that one could do in DHTML - however the fact that you have
99% less cross-platform headaches would make even simple stuff better in
Flash I think. I think Flash has more bells and whistles than just
animation. Certainly being able to tie in remoting to a flash app, even
one that is a simple form, adds a level of sophistication that you can't
get in DHTML. I know you can do server pings with DHTML, but this is
normally done via IFRAME, layer hacks.

I'm not a Flash guru, so I'll stop there. Maybe I'll never use Flash to
it's full potential - but I can say I'd _much_ rather use Flash now that
I've got a good handle on it. All the books I've seen in the past tried
to make me learn the animation crap that I'll just never have a use for.
The course focused on things that made me see that I really can use
Flash in my apps - right now.

P.S. Yes, I work for Macromedia (well, not for much longer), so I'm
probably biased. I just want people here to know that I'm not just
saying this because I work for the company. I really have gained a
_much_ bigger appreciation for what Flash can do for me as a 'coder
geek'. If anyone thinks its out of place for a MACR employee to tout
Flash... well... sorry. ;)

===
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:09 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR
 
 
 True, True, but maybe MM should have built or released an app 
 / tool just
 for this purpose.  It doesnt make sense to use an app like Flash for
 something so trivial, when HTML would suffice.  
 
 Surely thats the gain?  If you use Flash you get all the 
 bells and whistles
 which eludes HTML etc
 
 There is no logic in just using it for the sake of using it 
 (and because you
 can!).  If you are going to use it then use ir properly.  Its 
 like buying CF
 and only using it to output Hello World! on a page.
 
 N
 



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New course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Candace Cottrell

Would you say using Flash as an interface tool and CF as the back end
tool would force us to separate logic from presentation?


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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Dave Wilson

Just read up on this thread. Glad to See MM are addressing the issue full
on, however I am wondering if they may also be addressing the issue of
training accomplished Flash Developers in the art of Application development
with CF?

The main problem which I have encountered is not in learning how to
integrate CF and Flash. I've been toying with this idea since Generator beta
release. However the problem usually lies in finding competent flash
designers to work alongside in developing the applications. I'd do it all
myself, but my graphic and flash skills are too limited to create the kind
of interfaces which I tend to visualise.

An example of the kind of thing I'm attempting to achieve with flash/CF
would be similar to the vehicle workshop screens found in most modern
driving games e.g. Colin Mc Crae II etc, for configuring new vehicle options
etc.

Just my 2c
Dave

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Sent: 30 September 2002 14:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


 Thanks for your interest in making Flash MX, especially AS,
 accessible to the unwashed masses.

Well, I certainly can't take credit for any of this. There are some very
good people in our education department. In this case they wrote
something that is EXTREMELY dead on for the coders. Sorry if I sound
like a fan-boy or marketer, I just can't stop raving about this new
class. I would recommend it to anyone.

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RE: New course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

No, as a certain degree of 'logic' will have to be contained within the
movie itself.



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Sent: 30 September 2002 14:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New course to be offered by MACR


Would you say using Flash as an interface tool and CF as the back end
tool would force us to separate logic from presentation?


Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
937-641-4293 
http://www.childrensdayton.org

 
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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Raymond Camden

 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it 
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML 
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the 
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

Ah, well, when I said 'simple' forms, I did mean something a bit more
than static forms.

 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of 
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running.  It is a complex
 combination of designers/aniimators and developers to get 
 things working in
 any decent shape or formhas this been defined?  I have 
 seen some docs,
 but I have not read 100% into them as of yet so I am open for 
 more pointers.
 

This is a good question. My opinion (and let me stress, it's MY opinion,
not official MACR policy) that there is some things that the art freak
could do in CFML. For example - simple CFCs. This is because CFML is so
dang easy. The art freak doesn't need to be a code guru to do some very
nice things in CFML that will help extend their Flash apps. I think the
reverse applies. I don't think I'll ever be a Flash guru - but there are
things that I can learn that will be very useful to my web application
development. Certainly I'd hire the art freak to take my flash form and
make it prettier - if I needed it. Ditto on the reverse side. If the art
freak had issues doing complex SQL, they would let the DBA or CFML coder
take over. 

I guess I'm saying I think the course will make me more useful as a
developer. In ways, it's almost like having a _very_ extendible form of
HTML at my finger tips. Once I got past the ... I don't know, not wierd,
but just different feel of the Flash editor, it all came down to simple
rules and action script - and any CFML person can learn AS.

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RE: more cfstoredproc issues ...

2002-09-30 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

Thanks for the suggestion josh. I didn't think I had used any cf_sql_date
flags... I did a search and replace on wwwroot including subfolders just to
be sure and it didn't replace anything, so...

 I do not know if this may be the underlying cause of the
 error but I do know
 that if sql is your database you cannot use timestamp as
 the datatype  when
 you are passing in a date time field.  It has to be
 CF_SQL_DATE.  There was
 a disscusion about this on here last week but I think the
 person having the
 problem was using CFMX and M$SQL.  Hope this helps you out
 and that I didnt
 misunderstand that whole think last week.

 Josh

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RE: New course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Ben Forta

Less force and more encourage, I'd say.

--- Ben



-Original Message-
From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New course to be offered by MACR


Would you say using Flash as an interface tool and CF as the back end
tool would force us to separate logic from presentation?


Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
937-641-4293 
http://www.childrensdayton.org

 
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RE: New course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

I still dont think its anywhere near what it needs to be.



-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 14:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New course to be offered by MACR


Less force and more encourage, I'd say.

--- Ben



-Original Message-
From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New course to be offered by MACR


Would you say using Flash as an interface tool and CF as the back end
tool would force us to separate logic from presentation?


Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
937-641-4293 
http://www.childrensdayton.org

 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: more cfstoredproc issues ...

2002-09-30 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

Figured it was a long shot, but I tried it -- no dice. Thanks for the
suggestion Ade,

 Whenever I right an SP I use..

   CREATE PROCEDURE someSP

   somthing AS int,
   somethingelse AS varchar(50)

 I don't know if not using the AS is ok or not but give it
 a go, see if it fixes it

 Ade


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Flash not updating in Mozilla or Netscape 7

2002-09-30 Thread Thomas Chiverton

Is there a known CF bug with flash graphics not updating correctly in these
browsers, with CFServer 4.5.1 ?

Tom Chiverton
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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

Yep, thanks Ray, and indeed what you are saying is that the path is defined
as you require it - if you need a DBA you source one etc..

I think Flash Remoting and Flash movies have a place in development (take
the Flash Expression Panel :-)  but I think unless the need for having the
full version of Flash is removed, there will always be a sticking point.









-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 14:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it 
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML 
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the 
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

Ah, well, when I said 'simple' forms, I did mean something a bit more
than static forms.

 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of 
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running.  It is a complex
 combination of designers/aniimators and developers to get 
 things working in
 any decent shape or formhas this been defined?  I have 
 seen some docs,
 but I have not read 100% into them as of yet so I am open for 
 more pointers.
 

This is a good question. My opinion (and let me stress, it's MY opinion,
not official MACR policy) that there is some things that the art freak
could do in CFML. For example - simple CFCs. This is because CFML is so
dang easy. The art freak doesn't need to be a code guru to do some very
nice things in CFML that will help extend their Flash apps. I think the
reverse applies. I don't think I'll ever be a Flash guru - but there are
things that I can learn that will be very useful to my web application
development. Certainly I'd hire the art freak to take my flash form and
make it prettier - if I needed it. Ditto on the reverse side. If the art
freak had issues doing complex SQL, they would let the DBA or CFML coder
take over. 

I guess I'm saying I think the course will make me more useful as a
developer. In ways, it's almost like having a _very_ extendible form of
HTML at my finger tips. Once I got past the ... I don't know, not wierd,
but just different feel of the Flash editor, it all came down to simple
rules and action script - and any CFML person can learn AS.

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Running ColdFusion MX as specific user

2002-09-30 Thread Stefan Salzbrunn

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long as that user is a memeber of the administrator group, it seems to
run fine. In CF5 you had to set specific access rights on the registry
and the file system as described in KB 11859, however we cannot find out
how to set those rights in MX.
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Does anyone have any idea which specific rights on registry and/or user
rights for the Win2K user account are necessary to run the service under
non-administrative user account? Are there any drawbacks with this
approach? Generally we like to run services with as little rights as
necessary under secure live-environments.
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RE: Locking

2002-09-30 Thread Robert Shaw

Thanks for the advice, Isaac. One other question, can you see any reason why 
it would be bad to set all my application variables in application.cfm and 
then use an if test to prevents further cfsets? What do you think of this 
technique or are there better ones? My colleague and I are having this 
debate currently.

Rob

It depends how much data is in your application scope and how much of it
will be relevant on any given page... I'm inclined to think that you won't
want to shot-gun it quite that much, although you may not have to go too
much further... Instead of duplicating the entire application scope, try and
figure out what information will be specific to a given request in the
application.cfm, for instance, if this is an app which requires a login and
user session information is stored in the application scope, you might copy
just the user session structure for the current user and not the whole array
or structure containing all logged in users.

For the remaining variables, you might loop through the application
structure and copy only those which are simple values, i.e.

cflock scope=application timeout=30 type=readonly
cfset request.user = application.user[urltoken]
cfloop item = x collection=application
cfif issimplevalue(application[x])
cfset request[x] = application[x]
/cfif
/cfloop
/cflock

I've had good luck with a similar application architecture on CF5.

Isaac
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
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954-776-0046


Hi,
I'm upgrading from CF 4.0.1 to CF 5 and I have read that
locking changed
from 4.0 to 4.5. I'm currently using application variables
and wanted some
thoughts on this:
Does anyone see any issues with moving all of my
application variables to
the request scope in application.cfm using:
cflock SCOPE=Application Timeout=30 Type=Readonly
  cfset request=duplicate(application)
/cflock

So am I correct that this would mean if i had variables
application.foo and
application.foobar they will then be request.foo and
request.foobar?  Would
it be wise to set the request variables in another page
other than
application.cfm since application.cfm is always hit?
OR is there a better way to deal with this? Any
tips/tricks/advice is
appreciated!


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OT (kinda) Unix/CFFILE ?

2002-09-30 Thread Paul Giesenhagen

In our applications, we make use of cffile quite abit, and would like to
know what are the best CHMOD permission settings for the following examples.

Uploading and Deleting Images  /site/images/site_images/ -- To the
site_images directory
Writing Files to /site/ !-- Deleting and writing files

What permissions would you set on these two directories?

Thank You
Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign



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RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX

2002-09-30 Thread Will Swain

Are these available with CF5 too, or are they new to MX?

will

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Sent: 30 September 2002 13:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX


They are available - you don't need to do anything special to use them -
you just use them. (Although I believe you have to use type=explicit
in your cfsearch tag.) I'm not sure what the cost to performance is -
most likely more than a simple search, but probably not bad.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX


 I'm looking at this Verity doc

 http://www.verity.com/pdf/white_papers/MK0348a_Discovery_WP.pdf

 and I like the look of the THESAURUS, TYPO and SOUNDEX
 evidence operators.

 Are these available via CF? If not, what do I have to do to
 get them and
 what does it cost?



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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Rick Faircloth

Personally, I think that once this new paradigm of Flash Remoting
is known by the person with enough vision and skills, new interface tools
will
be created that will do what Flash does in DB connectivity without
the baggage that Flash brings from its beginning as a complicated
and work-intensive graphics tool.

The tool that dumps that complex, heavy Flash animation
baggage and allows adequate graphic design,
but continues to develop one-page browser-based, Internet-enabled
DB-connected app development will win the day and the dollars.

Believe me, I believe in good graphic design...I do graphic design work
for print, web, and video every day.  With print and video, which lack
interactivity, presentation is very important to success.  Graphic design
can make or break a successful video presentation.  But when it comes to the
Internet,
the functionality is what's far more critical.  (Just take a look at many of
the
most successful sites on the Internet and it's amazing how little effort
is obviously put into the design...but the functionality make it
successful.)

If another tool came along that would do what Flash Remoting enables,
without the complicated Flash interface, I jump all over it...but really,
for me,
it's not the Flash interface that's the trouble, as a timeline based video
editor,
it makes sense to me.  Even MM's attempt to get coders to think of the
frames as states makes sense.  Creating graphics with Flash is simple...
It's just the AS that I haven't found training wheels for, yet.

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


Yep, thanks Ray, and indeed what you are saying is that the path is defined
as you require it - if you need a DBA you source one etc..

I think Flash Remoting and Flash movies have a place in development (take
the Flash Expression Panel :-)  but I think unless the need for having the
full version of Flash is removed, there will always be a sticking point.









-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 14:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR


 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

Ah, well, when I said 'simple' forms, I did mean something a bit more
than static forms.

 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running.  It is a complex
 combination of designers/aniimators and developers to get
 things working in
 any decent shape or formhas this been defined?  I have
 seen some docs,
 but I have not read 100% into them as of yet so I am open for
 more pointers.


This is a good question. My opinion (and let me stress, it's MY opinion,
not official MACR policy) that there is some things that the art freak
could do in CFML. For example - simple CFCs. This is because CFML is so
dang easy. The art freak doesn't need to be a code guru to do some very
nice things in CFML that will help extend their Flash apps. I think the
reverse applies. I don't think I'll ever be a Flash guru - but there are
things that I can learn that will be very useful to my web application
development. Certainly I'd hire the art freak to take my flash form and
make it prettier - if I needed it. Ditto on the reverse side. If the art
freak had issues doing complex SQL, they would let the DBA or CFML coder
take over.

I guess I'm saying I think the course will make me more useful as a
developer. In ways, it's almost like having a _very_ extendible form of
HTML at my finger tips. Once I got past the ... I don't know, not wierd,
but just different feel of the Flash editor, it all came down to simple
rules and action script - and any CFML person can learn AS.

===
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo IM : morpheus

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RE: UDF Vs CFC (was RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...)

2002-09-30 Thread Benoit Hediard

I can hazard good guesses, but what do you mean by view, controller and
 model layers?

Ooops... sorry.
It refers to the MVC pattern : Model View Controller.
- View : the presentation layer (there is usually a HTML-based view layer
generated by CFML pages),
- Controller : the application flow control, it receives request from the
View layer, executes application logic, calls the model layer and returns
the response to the View layer,
(in web app, it usually handles data posted by forms and then redirect to a
page)
- Model : the application business logic and data access layer (done with
CFCs in ColdfusionMX).

As for cfczone.org Vs udflib.org, it is true that they are going to overlapp
in some area.
All the 'udflib' functions might be encapsulated into CFCs and put on
'cfczone'...
And this is probably what is going to happen.

In our case, all our CFCs are linked to our application (and therefore to
our business logic) and could not be put or could not come from 'cfczone'.
All our UDFs are not linked to our application and are coming from 'udflib'.

But, in some cases CFCs might be more appropriate than UDF to encapsulate
generic logic : when you need to have an object-oriented logic.
Indeed, the advantage of CFCs over UDFs is their ability to have (or
simulate) an 'object-oriented/object-based' behaviour.
For example, CFC are great to be used as wrapper of existing java classes
(it keeps the object behaviour of the java class and hide its complexity).
With CFC, you can manipulate objects that are persistent during the
request :
- create an object,
- call object.method1(),
- call object.method2()...
The object keep his state/properties in between each calls.
With UDF, you can't really have this kind of approach.


So, for generic logic encapsulation, I would use :
- UDF / udflib.org for procedural logic (functions),
- CFC / cfczone.org for object-oriented logic.

But, again, this is in my opinion, so I prefer to stop here otherwise it is
going to be another never-ending thread... ;)
This is really a matter of personal preference/coding style.


Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com

-Message d'origine-
De : Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : lundi 30 septembre 2002 14:03
À : CF-Talk
Objet : Re: UDF Vs CFC (was RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...)


Benoit, thanks for the summary of your rules-of-thumb for CF modularisation.
I'll check out your site later. For now, could you clear up some terminology
for this no-CS-background designer-turned-coder? ;-)

I can hazard good guesses, but what do you mean by view, controller and
model layers?

Also, I know the idea of business rules from relational DB design - am I
right in saying you're using business logic here in a similar sense, to
apply to the CF application? That is, it refers to procedures and functions
mostly specific to the current application?

If this is so, am I right in saying that, given your personal rules,
cflib.org for sharing UDFs is useful, but cfczone.org for sharing CFC's is
less useful? I know it's fine to use CFC's for generic functions and
cfczone.org will probably become as useful as cflib.org, I'm just trying to
gauge the meaning of your rules with this analogy. If you use CFCs for
business logic encapsulation, they may not be very portable - unless I'm
taking the term business logic in a too narrow sense.

- Gyrus


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- Original Message -
From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:26 AM
Subject: UDF Vs CFC (was RE: So many problems with CFC scopes...)


 I agree with you Raymond.
 But it is true that is more personal preference/coding style terms than
 performance/architecture terms.

 This are my personal rules :
 CUSTOM TAGS (ColdFusion Taglibs)
 - custom tags encapsulates presentation logic they always output content
 (usually HTML),
 - custom tags usually do not call the model or controller layer,
 - custom tags are only used by the presentation layer (page or pagelet
 scripts).
  They are used for presentation logic encapsulation.

 USER DEFINED FUNCTIONS (UDF)
 - user defined functions encapsulate generic logic and rarely output
content
 (except for string formatting purposes),
 - user defined functions do not call the model or controller layer,
 - user defined functions are used in any layer (view, controller or
model).
  They are used generic logic/function encapsulation.

 COLDFUSION COMPONENTS (CFC)
 - components encapsulate business/data access application logic and never
 output content,
 - components are called by the view layer only to read data,
 - components are called by the controller layer to create/update/delete
 data.
  They are used for business logic encapsulation.

 .. I've put some examples here
 http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/patterns/part3.htm

 Benoit Hediard
 

RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX

2002-09-30 Thread Raymond Camden

They were in CF5 as well.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:13 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX
 
 
 Are these available with CF5 too, or are they new to MX?
 
 will
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 30 September 2002 13:29
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX
 
 
 They are available - you don't need to do anything special to 
 use them -
 you just use them. (Although I believe you have to use type=explicit
 in your cfsearch tag.) I'm not sure what the cost to performance is -
 most likely more than a simple search, but probably not bad.
 
 ==
 =
 Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Hire
 
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yahoo IM : morpheus
 
 My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:11 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX
 
 
  I'm looking at this Verity doc
 
  http://www.verity.com/pdf/white_papers/MK0348a_Discovery_WP.pdf
 
  and I like the look of the THESAURUS, TYPO and SOUNDEX
  evidence operators.
 
  Are these available via CF? If not, what do I have to do to
  get them and
  what does it cost?
 
 
 
 
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Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Mike Chambers

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 

 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it 
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML 
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the 
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction,
then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely,
the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
the data view (or to submit data, etc). 

btw, that workflow requires no animation. I have been working with Flash
for about 4 years now, and I dont think i have done any animation for
about 2 years. All of my Flash applications consists of one Frame which
a bunch of components, and data going back and forth from Flash and the
server.


 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of 
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running. 

For what its worth, here is my workflow.

1. create functionality of movie using ActionScript and components.
2. send it to a designer to make it look pretty.

btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the developing
in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a
bunch of code that maintains client state across page views.

mike chambers

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Reverse PDF tools

2002-09-30 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG

Ok... I know I can take HTML or other doc formats and automate the process
of converting them into PDF format.  Does anyone know of a tool that can do
the reverse?  I need to unpack a PDF page into source images and text.
Anyone?

-mk


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RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Raymond Camden

 
 If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no 
 interaction,
 then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
 interacts with that data in any way, then there are 
 advantages. Namely,
 the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
 the data view (or to submit data, etc). 

I disagree. Things like the datasheet component are very useful for
displaying data. I think any case where you have a large or complex
amount of data to display could use Flash to make the UI easier to
handle.

Of course, you may have meant interaction to mean sorting or filtering
of some kind. I took interaction to mean editing.

-ray


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RE: Help attaching a dynamic pdf to an email

2002-09-30 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum

It's been a few years since I had to work with FDFs so forgive me if my info
is a bit off, but...  my understanding is that you don't need to attach the
PDF, just the FDF.  Note the line in the FDF that begins with /F.  It
indicates a URL from where the PDF can be downloaded.  What should happen is
that the recipient opens the FDF, Acrobat sees that /F bit and downloads the
indicated PDF, filling in the fields as indicated in the FDF.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Adam Sokolic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:51 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Help attaching a dynamic pdf to an email


 I'm attempting to generate a pdf through fields in a database (this part I
 have working fine) and then take that pdf file and attach it to an email.
 I'm using the Max Paperno tutorial to accomplish this, so the code reads:

 CFHEADER NAME=Content-Disposition VALUE=inline; filename=gift.fdf
 CFCONTENT TYPE=application/vnd.fdf
 cfinclude template=gift.fdf

 And all my variables fill in.  However when, I then go to attach
 the file to
 an email (using cfmail with a cfmailparam tag) it attaches the
 original pdf
 which shows the cf variable names instead of the actaual dynamic data.

 My fdf file reads as:
 cfoutput
 %FDF-1.2
 %âãÏÓ
 1 0 obj
 
 /FDF  /Fields [  /V (#expdate#)/T (expdate)  /V (#serialnum#)/T
 (serialnum)
  /V (#clubrenewal.username#)/T (username) ]
 /F (http://www.gostarpower.com/club/coupon/gift.pdf)/ID [
 592d65d9f72506dde1135c341d9fdab93b3abd4eb0b65949c24c7ebb37fb1f7f
 ] 
 
 endobj
 trailer
 
 /Root 1 0 R

 
 %%EOF /cfoutput

 I know that activepdf would most likely accomplish this, but I'm
 not at the
 point of wanting to spend $$ on it.

 Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you,
 Adam M. Sokolic

 STAR POWER Systems, Inc.
 Web Developer
 Boulder, CO

 Phone:303-209-0219 or 1-800-635-6750 x219
 Fax: 303-449-4222

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RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX

2002-09-30 Thread Will Swain

lovely...thanks Ray

w

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Sent: 30 September 2002 15:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX


They were in CF5 as well.

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RE: Reverse PDF tools

2002-09-30 Thread Haggerty, Mike

If you are looking to do this manually, I like to use Adobe Illustrator to
change the PDF to EPS, save the images and then resize / output them in
Photoshop.

I have no idea of what tool you would use to automate this process.

M

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Reverse PDF tools


Ok... I know I can take HTML or other doc formats and automate the process
of converting them into PDF format.  Does anyone know of a tool that can do
the reverse?  I need to unpack a PDF page into source images and text.
Anyone?

-mk



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RE: Running ColdFusion MX as specific user

2002-09-30 Thread Dave Watts

 I am trying to get ColdFusion MX to run under a specific
 user account. As long as that user is a memeber of the 
 administrator group, it seems to run fine. In CF5 you had 
 to set specific access rights on the registry and the file 
 system as described in KB 11859, however we cannot find out
 how to set those rights in MX.
 
 Does anyone have any idea which specific rights on registry 
 and/or user rights for the Win2K user account are necessary 
 to run the service under non-administrative user account? 
 Are there any drawbacks with this approach? Generally we 
 like to run services with as little rights as necessary 
 under secure live-environments.

It's been my experience that this is easier to set up with CF MX than with
previous versions of CF. I've done this more than once already. I'm
currently running CF MX with a user account which is a member of the Users
group, and nothing else changed about the account except that I had to grant
it the Log on as a service right. I could probably tighten this a little
more, but haven't tried yet.

On the filesystem, I allowed this account RWXD on the contents of \CFusionMX
(I suspect this could be tightened considerably in places) and read rights
to the web root directory (I'm using CF MX through IIS). I didn't have to
change any registry rights, and I don't think CF MX uses the registry for
anything any more, by default, except for client variables - and I turned
that off already. If you did want to use client variables in the registry, I
think the new key is
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Macromedia\coldfusion\currentversion\clients.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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CFQUERY: All employees who haven't entered data...

2002-09-30 Thread Angel Stewart

Hey all,

Is there a simple SQL statement that would allow me to select all the
employees...or all the EmpIds that are NOT in the Master table..

So I have tblEmployees and tblMaster. 

Basically I want to display all the bad bad people that did not enter
their time for a specific period...an exception report.

I can do this easily without factoring a time period, but once I put the
Time Period in..it no longer works..

Without Time Period:

CFQUERY Name=GetExceptions datasource=#DSN#

SELECT tblEmployees.EmpName, tblEmployees.DeptID
FROM tblEmployees LEFT JOIN tblMaster ON tblEmployees.ID =
tblMaster.empid
WHERE tblMaster.empid Is Null
/CFQUERY

This just shows Employees who have never entered time at all. That isn't
exactly what I want.

With Time Period

CFQUERY Name=GetExceptions datasource=#DSN#

SELECT tblEmployees.EmpName, tblEmployees.DeptID
FROM tblEmployees LEFT JOIN tblMaster ON tblEmployees.ID =
tblMaster.empid
WHERE 
tblMaster.startdate = #CreateODBCDate(enddate)#
AND tblMaster.startdate = #CreateODBCDate(startdate)#
AND tblMaster.empid Is Null
/CFQUERY

I want this to show Employees that haven't entered time for a specific
period...

I know my SQL is confused somewhere along the line...can anyone help?

-Angel

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error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's wrong?

2002-09-30 Thread Adams, Stephen

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Can anyone see what's wrong with this:

cfscript
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
(IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
}
Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND
(IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
session.BusinessOnly = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
Else {
session.ResidentsAndBusiness = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
/cfscript

This is the error I keep getting:

Error Diagnostic Information
Just in time compilation error 
Invalid parser construct found on line 67 at position 79. ColdFusion was
looking at the following text:{Invalid expression format. The usual cause is
an error in the expression structure. 
The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFSCRIPT tag occupying
document position (66:3) to (66:12).



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RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course t o be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

so you are using an animation tool and doing no an animation?  I may just be
a tad blinkered, but its like using IE to browser text files and not
HTML

doesnt make sense...



-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 15:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to
be offered by MACR


 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) 

 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it 
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML 
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the 
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction,
then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely,
the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
the data view (or to submit data, etc). 

btw, that workflow requires no animation. I have been working with Flash
for about 4 years now, and I dont think i have done any animation for
about 2 years. All of my Flash applications consists of one Frame which
a bunch of components, and data going back and forth from Flash and the
server.


 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of 
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running. 

For what its worth, here is my workflow.

1. create functionality of movie using ActionScript and components.
2. send it to a designer to make it look pretty.

btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the developing
in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a
bunch of code that maintains client state across page views.

mike chambers

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Slightly OT: Altering access tables in CF...

2002-09-30 Thread Yager, Brian T Contractor/Sverdrup

I am getting an error when I try to alter an Access table in CF.  Has anyone had
any success doing this?  

Thanks,

Brian Yager
President - North AL Cold Fusion Users Group
http://www.nacfug.com
Sr. Systems Analyst
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RE: Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme

Let me just say that I'm very excited about this class. My background is
interface design, but it's the code side that I want to sit down and learn.
A code-centric class will be extremely welcome. I'll be looking forward to
the announcement.

Animation vs programming is a non-issue. For web sites we have a variety of
coders and designers working together to create a single product. Flash
interfaces will be the same.

Sign me up!

Kevin Graeme


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RE: Reverse PDF tools

2002-09-30 Thread Hugo Ahlenius

Using the ghostscript you should be able to dump each page to a graphical
file format (of your choice).

To get the text - you can use the xpdf kit (which includes a pdftotext)
util.

But I don't think you can get to HTML easily though... :(

Adobe has such a service though:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/access_simple_form.html





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RE: CFQUERY: All employees who haven't entered data...

2002-09-30 Thread Everett, Al

Use a subquery:

CFQUERY Name=GetExceptions datasource=#DSN#
SELECT tblEmployees.EmpName, tblEmployees.DeptID
FROM tblEmployees
WHERE tblEmployees.ID NOT IN (
SELECT tblMaster.empid
FROM tblMaster
WHERE tblMaster.startdate =
#CreateODBCDate(enddate)#
AND tblMaster.startdate =
#CreateODBCDate(startdate)#
)
/CFQUERY

 Is there a simple SQL statement that would allow me to select all the
 employees...or all the EmpIds that are NOT in the Master table..
 
 So I have tblEmployees and tblMaster. 
 
 Basically I want to display all the bad bad people that did not enter
 their time for a specific period...an exception report.
 
 I can do this easily without factoring a time period, but 
 once I put the
 Time Period in..it no longer works..
 
 Without Time Period:
 
 CFQUERY Name=GetExceptions datasource=#DSN#
 
   SELECT tblEmployees.EmpName, tblEmployees.DeptID
   FROM tblEmployees LEFT JOIN tblMaster ON tblEmployees.ID =
 tblMaster.empid
   WHERE tblMaster.empid Is Null
 /CFQUERY
 
 This just shows Employees who have never entered time at all. 
 That isn't
 exactly what I want.
 
 With Time Period
 
 CFQUERY Name=GetExceptions datasource=#DSN#
 
   SELECT tblEmployees.EmpName, tblEmployees.DeptID
   FROM tblEmployees LEFT JOIN tblMaster ON tblEmployees.ID =
 tblMaster.empid
   WHERE 
   tblMaster.startdate = #CreateODBCDate(enddate)#
   AND tblMaster.startdate = #CreateODBCDate(startdate)#
   AND tblMaster.empid Is Null
 /CFQUERY
 
 I want this to show Employees that haven't entered time for a specific
 period...
 
 I know my SQL is confused somewhere along the line...can anyone help?
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Re: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's wrong?

2002-09-30 Thread Jerry Johnson

And which line is line 67?

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Can anyone see what's wrong with this:

cfscript
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
(IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
}
Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND
(IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
session.BusinessOnly = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
Else {
session.ResidentsAndBusiness = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
/cfscript

This is the error I keep getting:

Error Diagnostic Information
Just in time compilation error 
Invalid parser construct found on line 67 at position 79. ColdFusion was
looking at the following text:{Invalid expression format. The usual cause is
an error in the expression structure. 
The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFSCRIPT tag occupying
document position (66:3) to (66:12).



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RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Rick Faircloth

Hi, Mike.

Your work sounds exactly like what I'm trying to make happen.
Any resources you would point me to, to get an Intermediate CF coder
familiar enough with Flash Remoting, especially ActionScript, to
create some one-page apps?

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to
be offered by MACR


 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction,
then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely,
the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
the data view (or to submit data, etc).

btw, that workflow requires no animation. I have been working with Flash
for about 4 years now, and I dont think i have done any animation for
about 2 years. All of my Flash applications consists of one Frame which
a bunch of components, and data going back and forth from Flash and the
server.


 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running.

For what its worth, here is my workflow.

1. create functionality of movie using ActionScript and components.
2. send it to a designer to make it look pretty.

btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the developing
in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a
bunch of code that maintains client state across page views.

mike chambers

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RE: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's wr ong?

2002-09-30 Thread Adams, Stephen

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Subject: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's
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Can anyone see what's wrong with this:

cfscript
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
(IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
}
Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND
(IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
session.BusinessOnly = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
Else {
session.ResidentsAndBusiness = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
/cfscript

This is the error I keep getting:

Error Diagnostic Information
Just in time compilation error 
Invalid parser construct found on line 67 at position 79. ColdFusion was
looking at the following text:{Invalid expression format. The usual cause is
an error in the expression structure. 
The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFSCRIPT tag occupying
document position (66:3) to (66:12).



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Re: Slightly OT: Altering access tables in CF...

2002-09-30 Thread Randell B Adkins

Yes

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/02 10:57AM 
I am getting an error when I try to alter an Access table in CF.  Has
anyone had
any success doing this?  

Thanks,

Brian Yager
President - North AL Cold Fusion Users Group
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RE: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's wrong?

2002-09-30 Thread Bryan F. Hogan

Below is the corrected code, you had a few extra (s in front of your
isdefined

cfscript
   If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND IsDefined(Form.residents))
{
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
   }
   Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents) AND
IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
session.BusinessOnly = 'yes';
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
   }
   Else {
session.ResidentsAndBusiness = 'yes';
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
   }
 /cfscript



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Can anyone see what's wrong with this:

cfscript
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
(IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
}
Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND
(IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
session.BusinessOnly = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
Else {
session.ResidentsAndBusiness = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
/cfscript

This is the error I keep getting:

Error Diagnostic Information
Just in time compilation error
Invalid parser construct found on line 67 at position 79. ColdFusion was
looking at the following text:{Invalid expression format. The usual cause is
an error in the expression structure.
The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFSCRIPT tag occupying
document position (66:3) to (66:12).



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Adding two fields and displaying in a third

2002-09-30 Thread Thane Sherrington

I'm writing a form that allows a person to fill in the mileage and meal 
expense, and then displays the total in a third field.  I'm using this in 
the meals expense field:

input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float 
required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5 
onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#)+eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.CostOfMeals#Line#);

But the third field evaluates to [object][object].  How do I get this to 
add up?

T

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Re: CFQUERY: All employees who haven't entered data...

2002-09-30 Thread Alex

use subquery.
either NOT IN or WHERE NOT EXISTS

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Angel Stewart wrote:

 Hey all,

 Is there a simple SQL statement that would allow me to select all the
 employees...or all the EmpIds that are NOT in the Master table..

 So I have tblEmployees and tblMaster.

 Basically I want to display all the bad bad people that did not enter
 their time for a specific period...an exception report.

 I can do this easily without factoring a time period, but once I put the
 Time Period in..it no longer works..

 Without Time Period:

 CFQUERY Name=GetExceptions datasource=#DSN#

   SELECT tblEmployees.EmpName, tblEmployees.DeptID
   FROM tblEmployees LEFT JOIN tblMaster ON tblEmployees.ID =
 tblMaster.empid
   WHERE tblMaster.empid Is Null
 /CFQUERY

 This just shows Employees who have never entered time at all. That isn't
 exactly what I want.

 With Time Period

 CFQUERY Name=GetExceptions datasource=#DSN#

   SELECT tblEmployees.EmpName, tblEmployees.DeptID
   FROM tblEmployees LEFT JOIN tblMaster ON tblEmployees.ID =
 tblMaster.empid
   WHERE
   tblMaster.startdate = #CreateODBCDate(enddate)#
   AND tblMaster.startdate = #CreateODBCDate(startdate)#
   AND tblMaster.empid Is Null
 /CFQUERY

 I want this to show Employees that haven't entered time for a specific
 period...

 I know my SQL is confused somewhere along the line...can anyone help?

 -Angel

 
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RE: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's wrong?

2002-09-30 Thread Bryan F. Hogan

P.S.

Your if and else if should look like this.

if (not isdefined('form.business_types') and isdefined('form.residents'))

not like

if (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND (IsDefined(Form.residents))

You where closing your if statement and then trying to continue it, hope
that makes since.

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Can anyone see what's wrong with this:

cfscript
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
(IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
}
Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND
(IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
session.BusinessOnly = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
Else {
session.ResidentsAndBusiness = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
/cfscript

This is the error I keep getting:

Error Diagnostic Information
Just in time compilation error
Invalid parser construct found on line 67 at position 79. ColdFusion was
looking at the following text:{Invalid expression format. The usual cause is
an error in the expression structure.
The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFSCRIPT tag occupying
document position (66:3) to (66:12).



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RE: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's wrong?

2002-09-30 Thread Ben Doom

: Can anyone see what's wrong with this:
:
: cfscript
:   If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
: (IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
:   session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
:   }

On the next line, you're closing the if clause and then trying to and
another.  Should read:
else if ((not IsDefined(form.residents)) and
(IsDefined(form.business_type))) {

:   Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND
: (IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
:   session.BusinessOnly = yes;
:   session.ListOfBusiness =
: #Form.business_types#;
:   }
:   Else {
:   session.ResidentsAndBusiness = yes;
:   session.ListOfBusiness =
: #Form.business_types#;
:   }
:   /cfscript
:
: This is the error I keep getting:
:
: Error Diagnostic Information
: Just in time compilation error
: Invalid parser construct found on line 67 at position 79. ColdFusion was
: looking at the following text:{Invalid expression format. The
: usual cause is
: an error in the expression structure.
: The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFSCRIPT tag occupying
: document position (66:3) to (66:12).
:
:
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RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course t o be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Rick Faircloth

Neil, do you see any advantage to one-page data presentation and
maintenance interfaces as opposed to multiple-page interfaces?

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course
t o be offered by MACR


so you are using an animation tool and doing no an animation?  I may just be
a tad blinkered, but its like using IE to browser text files and not
HTML

doesnt make sense...



-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 15:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to
be offered by MACR


 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction,
then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely,
the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
the data view (or to submit data, etc).

btw, that workflow requires no animation. I have been working with Flash
for about 4 years now, and I dont think i have done any animation for
about 2 years. All of my Flash applications consists of one Frame which
a bunch of components, and data going back and forth from Flash and the
server.


 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running.

For what its worth, here is my workflow.

1. create functionality of movie using ActionScript and components.
2. send it to a designer to make it look pretty.

btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the developing
in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a
bunch of code that maintains client state across page views.

mike chambers

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RE: more cfstoredproc issues ...

2002-09-30 Thread Costas Piliotis

Dude...  In your cfprocparam tag, you write this:
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=LibraryID

You should write:
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=@LibraryID

AFAIK, you need the @ symobol.  Also, the word AS is unnecessary...  You
don't need it for any variable declaration in a stored proc.

-Original Message-
From: S.Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 6:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: more cfstoredproc issues ... 


Argh!

I have a stored procedure with parameters as:

CREATE   PROCEDURE tap_adLibUpdate
@LibraryID int,
@Ident int,
@UpdatedDate datetime,
@PageFileName varchar(15) = NULL,
@ArchivePath varchar(15) = NULL,
@Scheduled bit = 0,
@RestoreID int = NULL,
@UpdateError varchar(8000) = NULL
AS

and I'm using this code in CF:

cfstoredproc procedure=tap_adLibUpdate datasource=#request.tap.dsn#
username=#request.tap.dsnusr# password=#request.tap.dsnpwd#
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=LibraryID
value=#variables.PageID# cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=Ident value=#Request.User.ID#
cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=UpdatedDate
value=#CreateODBCDate(Now())# cfsqltype=cf_sql_timestamp
!--- indicates the file name for a top level container -- file
extension may change although file name is consistent ---
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=PageFileName
value=#variables.tempfilename# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
null=#yesnoformat(not rspage.istoplevelcontainer)#
!--- archive path indicates where restoring content is being
restored from
--
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=ArchivePath
value=#variables.archivepath# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
null=#yesnoformat(not request.tap.archivecontent)#
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=Scheduled value=0
cfsqltype=cf_sql_bit
cfprocparam type=in dbvarname=restoreid
value=#variables.restoreid# cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
null=#yesnoformat(IsDate(attributes.RestoreFromDate))#
cfprocparam type=In dbvarname=UpdateError
value=#variables.errormessage# cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
cfprocresult name=rsupdate resultset=1
/cfstoredproc

and I'm getting this error:

[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Procedure 'tap_adLibUpdate'
expects parameter '@LibraryID', which was not supplied.

I know that the LibraryID parameter is defined in the cfprocparam tags. I
know that none of it was misspelled. I know that the value of
variables.PageID is an integer. What I don't know is why I'm getting an
error message that tells me exactly what the problem is not.

Anybody have any ideas?

Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

new epoch
www.turnkey.to
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RE: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's wrong?

2002-09-30 Thread Mike Townend

It could be that your if's are not using one bracket set for the entire
check..

i.e.

You haveif () AND () {

Try changing them to  if (() AND ()) {

And see if that helps...

HTH



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Can anyone see what's wrong with this:

cfscript
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
(IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
}
Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND
(IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
session.BusinessOnly = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
Else {
session.ResidentsAndBusiness = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
/cfscript

This is the error I keep getting:

Error Diagnostic Information
Just in time compilation error 
Invalid parser construct found on line 67 at position 79. ColdFusion was
looking at the following text:{Invalid expression format. The usual
cause is an error in the expression structure. 
The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFSCRIPT tag occupying
document position (66:3) to (66:12).



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Re: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's wrong?

2002-09-30 Thread Jochem van Dieten

Comment inline:

cfscript
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
// ( removed
   session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
// Don't you need quotes around this yes?
   }
Else {
   If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND 
(IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
// ( removed
 session.BusinessOnly = yes;
// Don't you need quotes around this yes?
 session.ListOfBusiness = Form.business_types;
 }
   Else {
 session.ResidentsAndBusiness = yes;
// Don't you need quotes around this yes?
 session.ListOfBusiness = Form.business_types;
 }
   }
/cfscript

Jochem

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RE: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's wr ong?

2002-09-30 Thread Adams, Stephen

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Thanks Bryan, it's working fine now.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 16:02
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's
wrong?


Below is the corrected code, you had a few extra (s in front of your
isdefined

cfscript
   If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND IsDefined(Form.residents))
{
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
   }
   Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents) AND
IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
session.BusinessOnly = 'yes';
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
   }
   Else {
session.ResidentsAndBusiness = 'yes';
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
   }
 /cfscript



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To: CF-Talk
Subject: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's
wrong?


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Can anyone see what's wrong with this:

cfscript
If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
(IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
}
Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND
(IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
session.BusinessOnly = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
Else {
session.ResidentsAndBusiness = yes;
session.ListOfBusiness =
#Form.business_types#;
}
/cfscript

This is the error I keep getting:

Error Diagnostic Information
Just in time compilation error
Invalid parser construct found on line 67 at position 79. ColdFusion was
looking at the following text:{Invalid expression format. The usual cause is
an error in the expression structure.
The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFSCRIPT tag occupying
document position (66:3) to (66:12).



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RE: Adding two fields and displaying in a third

2002-09-30 Thread Turetsky, Seth

thane,
it's trying to concatenate them instead of adding, try something like this(forcing the 
values into numbers then adding them):

input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float 
required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5 
onchange= 
var num1=new Number(eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#));
var num2=new Number(eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.CostOfMeals#Line#));
window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value = num1 + num2;

hth
-seth

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From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Adding two fields and displaying in a third


I'm writing a form that allows a person to fill in the mileage and meal 
expense, and then displays the total in a third field.  I'm using this in 
the meals expense field:

input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float 
required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5 
onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#)+eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.CostOfMeals#Line#);

But the third field evaluates to [object][object].  How do I get this to 
add up?

T


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Re: CFMAIL problems

2002-09-30 Thread Gyrus

- Original Message -
From: Everett, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Did you check to see if any of their customers are in the database twice?
---

Thanks for the idea, but no, there don't appear to be any duplicate customer
accounts in the DB. Still waiting for a peek at the server logs - the client
is quite a major insurance company, and they keep their servers very much
hidden from mere sub-contractors like myself!

- Gyrus


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Re: Reverse PDF tools

2002-09-30 Thread I-Lin Kuo

http://pdftohtml.sourceforge.net/

I haven't had a chance to try it, though.

--- Mark A. Kruger - CFG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Ok... I know I can take HTML or other doc formats
 and automate the process
 of converting them into PDF format.  Does anyone
 know of a tool that can do
 the reverse?  I need to unpack a PDF page into
 source images and text.
 Anyone?
 
 -mk
 
 


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RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course t o be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

It depends, yeah sure its 'cool', but do you really gain from using a flash
movie?  sure, you get the movie in the browser window and you dont have to
reload the page persay - but you still have to load the information into the
movie and this effectively is your page load.

Multiple Page operations are simply by design, jeez if it was so cool to
keep the user on one screen then you could expect to see it within your OS
wouldnt you!?

N

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 16:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course
t o be offered by MACR


Neil, do you see any advantage to one-page data presentation and
maintenance interfaces as opposed to multiple-page interfaces?

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course
t o be offered by MACR


so you are using an animation tool and doing no an animation?  I may just be
a tad blinkered, but its like using IE to browser text files and not
HTML

doesnt make sense...



-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 15:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to
be offered by MACR


 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction,
then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely,
the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
the data view (or to submit data, etc).

btw, that workflow requires no animation. I have been working with Flash
for about 4 years now, and I dont think i have done any animation for
about 2 years. All of my Flash applications consists of one Frame which
a bunch of components, and data going back and forth from Flash and the
server.


 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running.

For what its worth, here is my workflow.

1. create functionality of movie using ActionScript and components.
2. send it to a designer to make it look pretty.

btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the developing
in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a
bunch of code that maintains client state across page views.

mike chambers

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: Adding two fields and displaying in a third

2002-09-30 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum

 onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval
 (window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#)+eval(window.document.
 ExpenseForm.CostOfMeals#Line#);

Add .value to the end of the 2 fields you're trying to add, as in:

...=eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#.value)+...
  ^^

BTW, why are you using eval()?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Adding two fields and displaying in a third


 I'm writing a form that allows a person to fill in the mileage and meal
 expense, and then displays the total in a third field.  I'm using this in
 the meals expense field:

 input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float
 required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5
 onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval
 (window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#)+eval(window.document.E
xpenseForm.CostOfMeals#Line#);

 But the third field evaluates to [object][object].  How do I get this to
 add up?

 T

 
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RE: Adding two fields and displaying in a third

2002-09-30 Thread Turetsky, Seth

forgot the .values on the end of each var, that's why it was putting in [object], 
should work now.

-Original Message-
From: Turetsky, Seth 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:19 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Adding two fields and displaying in a third


thane,
it's trying to concatenate them instead of adding, try something like this(forcing the 
values into numbers then adding them):

input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float 
required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5 
onchange= 
var num1=new Number(eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#.value);
var num2=new Number(eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.CostOfMeals#Line#.value);
window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value = num1 + num2;

hth
-seth

-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Adding two fields and displaying in a third


I'm writing a form that allows a person to fill in the mileage and meal 
expense, and then displays the total in a third field.  I'm using this in 
the meals expense field:

input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float 
required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5 
onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#)+eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.CostOfMeals#Line#);

But the third field evaluates to [object][object].  How do I get this to 
add up?

T


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RE: Adding two fields and displaying in a third

2002-09-30 Thread Pascal Peters

You didn't get the value, but the object:

input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float 
required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5 
onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval(windo
w.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#.value)+eval(window.document.Expense
Form.CostOfMeals#Line#.value);
-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: maandag 30 september 2002 17:04
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Adding two fields and displaying in a third


I'm writing a form that allows a person to fill in the mileage and meal 
expense, and then displays the total in a third field.  I'm using this
in 
the meals expense field:

input type=Text name=CostOfMeals#Line# value=0 validate=float 
required=Yes size=5 maxlength=5 
onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval(windo
w.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#)+eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.C
ostOfMeals#Line#);

But the third field evaluates to [object][object].  How do I get this to

add up?

T


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RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course t o be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

Oh and to add...you have a look at all the examples and SOTD etc.. and you
see how many are cool, and have aninamation etc (I woudl say 100%) this
is where the npower lies, but not everyone has this power..  funky and cool
sells apps, there is nothing wrong with that, but on a whole; its beyond the
reach of even the advanced CF'er with jackshit Flash skills (AS/Anim etc..)

maybe I will take a trip to Degobah and see what I can learn..

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 16:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course
t o be offered by MACR


Neil, do you see any advantage to one-page data presentation and
maintenance interfaces as opposed to multiple-page interfaces?

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course
t o be offered by MACR


so you are using an animation tool and doing no an animation?  I may just be
a tad blinkered, but its like using IE to browser text files and not
HTML

doesnt make sense...



-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 15:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to
be offered by MACR


 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction,
then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely,
the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
the data view (or to submit data, etc).

btw, that workflow requires no animation. I have been working with Flash
for about 4 years now, and I dont think i have done any animation for
about 2 years. All of my Flash applications consists of one Frame which
a bunch of components, and data going back and forth from Flash and the
server.


 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running.

For what its worth, here is my workflow.

1. create functionality of movie using ActionScript and components.
2. send it to a designer to make it look pretty.

btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the developing
in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a
bunch of code that maintains client state across page views.

mike chambers

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: Locking

2002-09-30 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

Again, I've had good experiences with this technique...

Here's an example:

cflock scope=application type=readonly timeout=30
  cfparam name=url.getappudf type=boolean
default=#yesnoformat(isdeinfed('application.udf'))#
  cfif url.getappudfcfset request.udf =
duplicate(application.udf)/cfif
/cflock

cfif not url.getappudf
cfset request.udf = structnew()
cfinclude template=mylibrary.cfm
cflock scope=application type=exclusive timeout=30
cfset application.udf = duplicate(request.udf)
/cflock
/cfif

Within the mylibrary.cfm file, all my user-defined functions are coppied
into the request.udf structure. This allows me to cache them in the
application scope, which ( and I've never done any load testing on this )
I've heard helps to reduce some of the load for subsequent page requests. I
would expect this to be the case for a lot of things -- for instance, if you
can't use a cached query for something, or if you want more control over the
result-set, you can cache a query by storing it in the application scope and
use something like the syntax above to determine whether the application
should connect to the db for the data. Subsequent page requests will then be
able to retreive the recordset from the copy cached in the application scope
which is almost always faster than connecting to a database.

The reason for the url variable is to allow you ( as the developer ) to
easily refresh the cached data by adding a url variable to the query string
in your browser, although I wouldn't recommend placing it in links or forms
-- users who know about the flag may be apt to over-use it, thus limiting
the usefullness of your caching scheme. Or for that matter, they may not
even be aware of it and simply continually refreshing pages which contain
the flag.


S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046

 Thanks for the advice, Isaac. One other question, can you see any reason
 why
 it would be bad to set all my application variables in application.cfm and
 then use an if test to prevents further cfsets? What do you think of this
 technique or are there better ones? My colleague and I are having this
 debate currently.

 Rob

 It depends how much data is in your application scope and how much of
 it
 will be relevant on any given page... I'm inclined to think that you won't
 want to shot-gun it quite that much, although you may not have to go too
 much further... Instead of duplicating the entire application scope, try
 and
 figure out what information will be specific to a given request in the
 application.cfm, for instance, if this is an app which requires a login
 and
 user session information is stored in the application scope, you might
 copy
 just the user session structure for the current user and not the whole
 array
 or structure containing all logged in users.

 For the remaining variables, you might loop through the application
 structure and copy only those which are simple values, i.e.

 cflock scope=application timeout=30 type=readonly
   cfset request.user = application.user[urltoken]
   cfloop item = x collection=application
   cfif issimplevalue(application[x])
   cfset request[x] = application[x]
   /cfif
   /cfloop
 /cflock

 I've had good luck with a similar application architecture on CF5.

 Isaac
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
 www.turnkey.to
 954-776-0046


Hi,
I'm upgrading from CF 4.0.1 to CF 5 and I have read that
locking changed
from 4.0 to 4.5. I'm currently using application variables
and wanted some
thoughts on this:
Does anyone see any issues with moving all of my
application variables to
the request scope in application.cfm using:
cflock SCOPE=Application Timeout=30 Type=Readonly
  cfset request=duplicate(application)
/cflock

So am I correct that this would mean if i had variables
application.foo and
application.foobar they will then be request.foo and
request.foobar?  Would
it be wise to set the request variables in another page
other than
application.cfm since application.cfm is always hit?
OR is there a better way to deal with this? Any
tips/tricks/advice is
appreciated!

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Using the Verity Engine on non-cf apps

2002-09-30 Thread Bruce Sorge

If you have CFMX and .net apps running on the same server, is it possible to use the 
K2 Verity engine on the .net apps, or does this require one to purchase and install 
the K2 product?

Thanks,

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RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX

2002-09-30 Thread Adam Reynolds

Ray,
This is gonna get very verity focused.

In principle can I create my own 'locales' for use with my own file sets. In
effect I could copy the english locale, then create a new local called
'awkwardcustomer'. Reverse engineer the vdk20.syd (the english thesaurus
file) using
mksyd -locale locale -dump -syd custom_thesaurus -f control_file

Edit the control file adding my extra thesaurus bits I want, then remake the
syd file using
mksyd -locale locale -f control_file -syd custom_thesaurus

or am I going about this completely wrong?

Adam



 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 30 September 2002 15:18
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX


 They were in CF5 as well.

 ===
 Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Hire

 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yahoo IM : morpheus

 My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda

  -Original Message-
  From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:13 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX
 
 
  Are these available with CF5 too, or are they new to MX?
 
  will
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 30 September 2002 13:29
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX
 
 
  They are available - you don't need to do anything special to
  use them -
  you just use them. (Although I believe you have to use type=explicit
  in your cfsearch tag.) I'm not sure what the cost to performance is -
  most likely more than a simple search, but probably not bad.
 
  ==
  =
  Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Hire
 
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  My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:11 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Verity operators - THESAURUS, TYPO, SOUNDEX
  
  
   I'm looking at this Verity doc
  
   http://www.verity.com/pdf/white_papers/MK0348a_Discovery_WP.pdf
  
   and I like the look of the THESAURUS, TYPO and SOUNDEX
   evidence operators.
  
   Are these available via CF? If not, what do I have to do to
   get them and
   what does it cost?
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

 If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction,
 then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
 interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely,
 the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
 the data view (or to submit data, etc).

Depending on the browser, it doesn't need to refresh the entire page now --
and espcially less so with the advance of a standard DOM from the w3c ...
Admittedly, there's less issue with browser inconsistency with Flash --
well, now that NS 7 supports MX anyway.

 btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the developing
 in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a
 bunch of code that maintains client state across page views.

Until the user hits their f5 key.


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2002-09-30 Thread Rebecca _Becky_ Brewer

Hi all,

I'm having this fun problem with a CFGRAPH tag in CF 5 that's driving
me a bit crazy this morning.  My code is calculating the sales average
for the users' state vs. the national sales average for the same time
period, and assigning these to local variables named #salesAvg# and #allSalesAvg#.

The problem is that the values displayed in my CFGRAPH image (using the
Flash format) and on the actual page do not match for the #allSalesAvg#
value.  The graph is showing 78.26 (which is incorrect), but the text
label I have further down on the page is showing 78.27 (which is the
correct value).

Has anyone had any similar problems with the accuracy of the CFGRAPH
tag?  Any decent solutions to this, or am I better off hard-coding the
value for the national sales until we move up to CFMX and CFCHART-ing?

TIA,
Becky
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RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course t o be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Ben Forta

Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense.

I just needed a form with side by side list boxes, make a selection in
one and the second is populated with selections that change based on
what was selected in the first. Try doing that simply and easily in HTML
(without screen refreshes).

Flash, ColdFusion CFCs, and Flash Remoting make it a no brainer.

Did I use animation? Nope. Did I need the timeline? Nope. In fact, I
don't even have it open - I used a single frame and a single layer.

There is legitimate use for Flash beyond animation.

--- Ben



-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course
t o be offered by MACR


so you are using an animation tool and doing no an animation?  I may
just be a tad blinkered, but its like using IE to browser text files and
not HTML

doesnt make sense...



-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 15:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to
be offered by MACR


 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML 
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the 
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction,
then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely,
the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
the data view (or to submit data, etc). 

btw, that workflow requires no animation. I have been working with Flash
for about 4 years now, and I dont think i have done any animation for
about 2 years. All of my Flash applications consists of one Frame which
a bunch of components, and data going back and forth from Flash and the
server.


 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running. 

For what its worth, here is my workflow.

1. create functionality of movie using ActionScript and components. 2.
send it to a designer to make it look pretty.

btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the developing
in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a
bunch of code that maintains client state across page views.

mike chambers

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RE: CFLOCATION to external sites - failure

2002-09-30 Thread Cornillon, Matthieu

Hi, all.  I'm afraid that this isn't the problem.  The addresses are indeed
fully qualified.  I have rewritten the CFLOCATION tag several times from
scratch to be sure I have no typos.  I have cut and pasted the exact URL
string from the CFLOCATION url attribute to a browser's address bar (on the
server itself) and have successfully reached the site.

Still a mystery...

Matthieu

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From: Dave Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 11:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFLOCATION to external sites - failure


Ahhh, cheers Jochem. Then the problem is the client resolving the url's.
Well I'd taken it for granted that the url's in the db were all fully
qualified, i.e. including http:// etc as Mike had suggested, but it's
starting to sound like Mike is correct, unless the client machine is having
extraneous networking problems (more unlikely).

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 September 2002 16:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFLOCATION to external sites - failure


Dave Wilson wrote:
 I'm not sure exactly how cflocation works. Whether it (as you say) sends
the
 redirect instruction to the client, leaving the dns resolution up to the
 client machine. Or. It is all handled on the server side.

cflocation sends an HTTP 302 Found statuscode to the browser together
with a header with the new location (see RFC 2616 or the list archive
for past discussions). Effectively, it is nothing but:
cfheader statuscode=302
cfheader name=location value=fully qualified URL

Jochem



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Problems with CFGRAPH accuracy

2002-09-30 Thread Rebecca _Becky_ Brewer

Hi all,

I'm having this fun problem with a CFGRAPH tag in CF 5 that's driving
me a bit crazy this morning.  My code is calculating the sales average
for the users' state vs. the national sales average for the same time
period, and assigning these to local variables named #salesAvg# and #allSalesAvg#.

The problem is that the values displayed in my CFGRAPH image (using the
Flash format) and on the actual page do not match for the #allSalesAvg#
value.  The graph is showing 78.26 (which is incorrect), but the text
label I have further down on the page is showing 78.27 (which is the
correct value).

Has anyone had any similar problems with the accuracy of the CFGRAPH
tag?  Any decent solutions to this, or am I better off hard-coding the
value for the national sales until we move up to CFMX and CFCHART-ing?

TIA,
Becky
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RE: Flash for data views

2002-09-30 Thread Ben Johnson

All,
I've been doing Flash apps for a while now and I wanted to put
in a couple cents to this thread about my experience.  I would like to
agree with Ray and Mike on a lot of their points.  Flash does not
necessarily equal more time.  It has a learning curve no doubt, but so
does HTML/CFML.  If you were a Visual Basic programmer, you might say
why should I build this application in ColdFusion when it would take me
half the time in Visual Basic?  We do Flash MX applications exclusively
at my company and our project bids are not higher than the HTML
equivalent and we usually offer more because the Flash interface simply
offers more than HTML/DHTML ever could.

As for animation, I can thankfully say that I have had to do almost zero
tweening in my Flash history.  It simply doesn't apply to applications
for the most part.  Everything is more event based and states are
managed with AS.  Personally, I used the Flash authoring tool like
Visual Basic studio.  If you think of it in that light, it makes much
more sense.  Most of the time, I forget that there's even a timeline in
Flash.

As for the Macromedia course, however, I would disagree on a few points.
I haven't looked at the course so please correct me if I'm wrong on any
of this.  The course seems to give a good introduction to Flash but the
one serious problem Flash has is that it has no application framework or
standardized methodology for building applications.  For example, Flash
Remoting is great but it won't help you if you can't easily route calls
and callbacks within your application.  There was some work done on this
with the Pet Market application, but there's definitely some quirky
stuff within that application.

Ray or Mike, are there any plans for any official methodology or app
framework from Macromedia?



Ben Johnson
Information Architect
www.architekture.com
[p] 720.934.2179
 


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RE: Adding two fields and displaying in a third

2002-09-30 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 11:22 AM 9/30/02 -0400, Mosh Teitelbaum wrote:
  onchange=window.document.ExpenseForm.TotalAmount#Line#.value=eval
  (window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#)+eval(window.document.
  ExpenseForm.CostOfMeals#Line#);

Add .value to the end of the 2 fields you're trying to add, as in:

 ...=eval(window.document.ExpenseForm.Mileage#Line#.value)+...
   ^^

Shoot.  Thanks. :)


BTW, why are you using eval()?

I thought I had to in order to get Javascript to treat as numbers instead 
of text.

T

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COM help

2002-09-30 Thread Brian Ferrigno

I need help tracking down an error in using CFOBJECT to create a csv file
from an excel spreadsheet. 

I am using CF to open up an excel spreadsheet and then trying to turn the
data into a csv file. The code i'm using works fine the first time the
application is launched but on subsequent tries nothing happens. According
to the company hosting my site COM is causing the CF service to fail then it
has to be restarted. I'm listing the code i'm using below. 

Is this an issue with a patch needing to be installed or a problem with the
code below? Any help would much appreciated. Thanks.


-Brian


Stats
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IIS
Windows 2K server

Code


cftry
cfobject 
action=CONNECT 
class=Excel.Application 
name=objExcel 
type=COM
  cfcatch
cftry
cfobject 
action=CREATE 
class=Excel.Application 
name=objExcel 
type=COM 
  cfcatch type=Object
  Cannot create Excel Object
  cfabort
  /cfcatch
/cftry
  /cfcatch
/cftry

cftry

cfscript

// this code will open up the excel spread sheet and then save it as a CSV
file.

// HTML file path
ExcelFilePath = #attributes.excelFileIn#;

// Destination path for new Word document
// We leave off the extension since we'll declare the file type later on
CSVFilePath = #attributes.CSVFileOut#;

// Open Word in the background
objExcel.Visible = false;  

// Disable alerts such as: 'Save this document?'
objExcel.DisplayAlerts = false;   

// Get the 'Documents' collection
objBooks = objExcel.workbooks;  

// Open the HTML document
objBook = objBooks.Open(ExcelFilePath);  

// Get the sheets collection 
objSheets = objBook.WorkSheets;

// Get the first sheet 
objSheet = objSheets.Item(Val(1));   

// Get a named sheet 
objSheet = objSheets.Item(#attribtues.sheetName#);   


/* Save it as a new document -- the extension will automatically
   be appended based on the file type we choose.
   Some of the file types to convert to:
   1 = .xls
   3 = .txt (tab delimetered
   6 = .csv
*/
objSheet.SaveAs(CSVFilePath, Val(6));  
  
// The next line would convert it to RTF instead
// objSpreadSheet.SaveAs(CSVFilePath,Val(6));  
  
// Close the document
objBook.Close();

// Quit Word
objExcel.Quit();

if (attribtues.showConfirmation EQ 1) {
writeOutput(font size=-1
face=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serifbFile Created:/b
#attributes.CSVFileOut# bfrom file:/b
#attributes.excelFileIn#p/font);
}
/cfscript

  cfcatch
  !--- error creating file ---
  font face=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif size=-1there was
an error creating your new CSV filesfrom your Excel Spreadsheet/font
  /cfcatch
/cftry
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RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course t o be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Raymond Camden

 Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense.
 
 I just needed a form with side by side list boxes, make a selection in
 one and the second is populated with selections that change based on
 what was selected in the first. Try doing that simply and 
 easily in HTML
 (without screen refreshes).
 
 Flash, ColdFusion CFCs, and Flash Remoting make it a no brainer.
 
 Did I use animation? Nope. Did I need the timeline? Nope. In fact, I
 don't even have it open - I used a single frame and a single layer.
 
 There is legitimate use for Flash beyond animation.
 

I just released a custom tag to do this - and I would have much rather
done it in Flash. Since it's so easy to pass stuff in to Flash via code
(ie, not remoting), I'm surprised no one has released a generic flash
movie for this scenario that is controllable via CFML. Even a newbie
like myself could write this rather quickly. (Of course, gotta find the
time. ;)

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Setting a VARIANT_BOOL COM attribute from CF

2002-09-30 Thread Brian Panulla

I'm trying to use a VC++ COM object that has some VARIANT_BOOL attributes 
from ColdFusion via CFOBJECT. No matter what value I set the attribute to 
(1, 1.0, -1, -1.0, 0, true), it's always FALSE. Double/Int/Float parameters 
and methods work just fine.

Is this a variable typing/casting issue? Anyone have any ideas what to try?

Brian


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Re: error with a piece of cfscript code and I can't see what's wrong?

2002-09-30 Thread S . Isaac Dealey

You've either got an extra ( before the 2nd IsDefined(form.residents) or
are missing a ) after it...

If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
 (IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
session.ResidentsOnly = yes;


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 Can anyone see what's wrong with this:

 cfscript
   If (NOT IsDefined(Form.business_types) AND
 (IsDefined(Form.residents)) {
   session.ResidentsOnly = yes;
   }
   Else If (NOT IsDefined(Form.residents)) AND
 (IsDefined(Form.business_type)) {
   session.BusinessOnly = yes;
   session.ListOfBusiness =
 #Form.business_types#;
   }
   Else {
   session.ResidentsAndBusiness = yes;
   session.ListOfBusiness =
 #Form.business_types#;
   }
   /cfscript

 This is the error I keep getting:

 Error Diagnostic Information
 Just in time compilation error
 Invalid parser construct found on line 67 at position 79. ColdFusion was
 looking at the following text:{Invalid expression format. The usual cause
 is
 an error in the expression structure.
 The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFSCRIPT tag occupying
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RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course t o be offered by MACR

2002-09-30 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

OK then, will I get a super discount on Flash from MM - say 98% as I am only
going to use 2% of its features?

:-)  nah, didnt think so..

N



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From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 16:38
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course
t o be offered by MACR


Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense.

I just needed a form with side by side list boxes, make a selection in
one and the second is populated with selections that change based on
what was selected in the first. Try doing that simply and easily in HTML
(without screen refreshes).

Flash, ColdFusion CFCs, and Flash Remoting make it a no brainer.

Did I use animation? Nope. Did I need the timeline? Nope. In fact, I
don't even have it open - I used a single frame and a single layer.

There is legitimate use for Flash beyond animation.

--- Ben



-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course
t o be offered by MACR


so you are using an animation tool and doing no an animation?  I may
just be a tad blinkered, but its like using IE to browser text files and
not HTML

doesnt make sense...



-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 September 2002 15:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Flash for data views : WAS Ben's J2EE Book, now new course to
be offered by MACR


 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)

 I like Flash, dont get me wrong, but if all you are doing it
 linking to a DB
 for a static form or grid etc, then you may as well use HTML 
 and no I am not
 anti Flash Remoting - far from it, I just dont see the 
 business benefit
 (development time = cost) of using say Flash for things which could be
 developed in normal HTML.

If all you are doing is presenting data to the user with no interaction,
then there is not much advantage to using Flash. However, if the users
interacts with that data in any way, then there are advantages. Namely,
the fact that the entire page will not need to be refreshed to update
the data view (or to submit data, etc). 

btw, that workflow requires no animation. I have been working with Flash
for about 4 years now, and I dont think i have done any animation for
about 2 years. All of my Flash applications consists of one Frame which
a bunch of components, and data going back and forth from Flash and the
server.


 What I am driving at is this : there is no real 'Spectrum of
 Participants'
 (sorry Ray) of how to get a movie up and running. 

For what its worth, here is my workflow.

1. create functionality of movie using ActionScript and components. 2.
send it to a designer to make it look pretty.

btw, as far as time and costs, in a lot of cases i think the developing
in Flash is easier / faster than in HTML since I don't have to write a
bunch of code that maintains client state across page views.

mike chambers

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