Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-10 Thread Brian W.

I'll speculate its like this.  On a full t1, 1536 megabits are actually
usable out of the 1544 on the circuit. Capital B is the byte symbol, and
there are 8 bits in a byte, so 1536 divided by 8=192

Brian

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, whatshakin wrote:

> Please explain how you got this: 1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Arun Upadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:34 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router
> 
> 
> > 
> >   Hi Priscilla
> >I found the solution.
> > 
> > Here it is:
> >  1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec
> >   Router begins to forward at the rate of 64KB/sec
> > means it is tranfering at the rate of 3 packets/sec
> > i.e it will take 1/3 sec. or 333 ms to transfer one
> > packet.
> > 
> >  Now it's getting packets at the rate of 5000
> > packets/sec i.e one packet in every 1/5000 sec. or
> > 1000/5000 = .2 ms
> > so it will get 500 packets in 500x.2=100 ms
> > 
> >  So by the time router will forward first packet in
> > 333ms, it's buffer will be full.
> > 
> >   Thanks for your help.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Oops. I was multiplying 512 bits times 5000 bits per
> > > second. I guess I lost
> > > a digit. Sorry.
> > >
> > > Now it's a much more interesting problem!
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 06:22 PM 10/10/00, Brian wrote:
> > > >On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > > >Can anybody please help in solving this
> > > problem?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >A router is connected to a T1 line which has
> > > the
> > > > > >maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins
> > > to
> > > > > >forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per
> > > second,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that
> > > to bits it's 512 bits.
> > > > > 5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000
> > > bits per second, which
> > > > is a
> > > > > lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing
> > > will be needed at all. You
> > > > > could have just one buffer and no packets should
> > > ever get dropped.
> > > >
> > > >Priscilla,
> > > >
> > > >How did you come up with 560,000 bits per second?
> > > Can you break that down
> > > >for me, I know I must be doing something wrong:
> > > >
> > > >64bytes * 8 = 512 bits
> > > >512 bits * 5000 packets = 256 bits
> > > >
> > > >brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >there are 500 buffers available.
> > > > >
> > > > > How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are
> > > 64 bytes also?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Approximately how
> > > > > >long before the link is complelety saturated,
> > > the
> > > > > >buffers are full and the router begins to
> > > discard.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are trying to get help with questions
> > > like this that appear on the
> > > > > CCIE written test and practice exams, you will
> > > want to give us an example
> > > > > of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For
> > > example, if the offered load
> > > > > to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link
> > > could handle, 500 buffers
> > > > > would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I
> > > think? Comments anyone?)
> > > > >
> > > > > In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant
> > > rate, so much more
> > > > difficult
> > > > > math and queuing theory is required, and that
> > > goes beyond the research and
> > > > > thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >  Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Arun
> > > > > >
> > > > > >=
> > > > > >Arun Upadhyay
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RE: 2500 router password recovery

2000-10-10 Thread Taylor, Don



Sounds 
like you're suffering from the older HyperTerminal where the break sequence 
didn't work properly. Get the new version from http://hilgraeve.com/htpe/download.html. 
It works fine.
 
- 
Don

  -Original Message-From: Robert McIntire 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:25 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 2500 router password 
  recovery
  I'm working with a used 2514 router with an unknown enable 
  password.  I've tried the standard break technique but can't abort the 
  boot sequence.  I believe that break may be disabled.  I'm using Win 
  NT 4 and hyperterminal to connect to the console port and am able to connect 
  and SHOW VERSION.   I am getting terminal feedback.  
  I've used CTRL-BREAK AND CTRL-SHFT-6  to no avail.  How can I 
  access ROMMON mode and change the password?  Is there a jumper on the 
  system board that can be used to circumvent the password and access the router 
  for configuration?
          Any advice is 
  appreciated,  Thanks


Re: 2500 router password recovery

2000-10-10 Thread Jay Hennigan

On 10 Oct 2000 23:27:27 -0400, Robert McIntire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:I'm working with a used 2514 router with an unknown enable password.  =
:I've tried the standard break technique but can't abort the boot =
:sequence.  I believe that break may be disabled.  I'm using Win NT 4 and =
:hyperterminal to connect to the console port and am able to connect and =
:SHOW VERSION.   I am getting terminal feedback.  I've used CTRL-BREAK =
:AND CTRL-SHFT-6  to no avail.  How can I access ROMMON mode and change =
:the password?  Is there a jumper on the system board that can be used to =
:circumvent the password and access the router for configuration?
:Any advice is appreciated,  Thanks

This is almost certainly your terminal emulator and not the router. 

Download a freeware terminal program such as Teraterm.  The BREAK sequence
in Hyperterminal is buggy and inconsistent from version to version.  

The shareware program CRT is also quite good.  

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HSRP question --help

2000-10-10 Thread Zhang Jin

Dear group,

tomorrow  I will take the BCSMN exam.Only 1 question confused me,that
is:
in RSM module,when I configure HSRP as follows:

interface vlan vlannumber
ip address ipaddress subnet_mask
standby groupid preempt
standby ip ipaddress

question is whether should I make the vannumber=groupid?

Please reply me ASAP.

thank you!

dean

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Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-10 Thread whatshakin

Please explain how you got this: 1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec

- Original Message - 
From: Arun Upadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router


> 
>   Hi Priscilla
>I found the solution.
> 
> Here it is:
>  1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec
>   Router begins to forward at the rate of 64KB/sec
> means it is tranfering at the rate of 3 packets/sec
> i.e it will take 1/3 sec. or 333 ms to transfer one
> packet.
> 
>  Now it's getting packets at the rate of 5000
> packets/sec i.e one packet in every 1/5000 sec. or
> 1000/5000 = .2 ms
> so it will get 500 packets in 500x.2=100 ms
> 
>  So by the time router will forward first packet in
> 333ms, it's buffer will be full.
> 
>   Thanks for your help.
> 
> 
> --- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oops. I was multiplying 512 bits times 5000 bits per
> > second. I guess I lost
> > a digit. Sorry.
> >
> > Now it's a much more interesting problem!
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 06:22 PM 10/10/00, Brian wrote:
> > >On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > >Can anybody please help in solving this
> > problem?
> > > > >
> > > > >A router is connected to a T1 line which has
> > the
> > > > >maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins
> > to
> > > > >forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per
> > second,
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that
> > to bits it's 512 bits.
> > > > 5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000
> > bits per second, which
> > > is a
> > > > lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing
> > will be needed at all. You
> > > > could have just one buffer and no packets should
> > ever get dropped.
> > >
> > >Priscilla,
> > >
> > >How did you come up with 560,000 bits per second?
> > Can you break that down
> > >for me, I know I must be doing something wrong:
> > >
> > >64bytes * 8 = 512 bits
> > >512 bits * 5000 packets = 256 bits
> > >
> > >brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >there are 500 buffers available.
> > > >
> > > > How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are
> > 64 bytes also?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Approximately how
> > > > >long before the link is complelety saturated,
> > the
> > > > >buffers are full and the router begins to
> > discard.
> > > >
> > > > If you are trying to get help with questions
> > like this that appear on the
> > > > CCIE written test and practice exams, you will
> > want to give us an example
> > > > of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For
> > example, if the offered load
> > > > to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link
> > could handle, 500 buffers
> > > > would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I
> > think? Comments anyone?)
> > > >
> > > > In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant
> > rate, so much more
> > > difficult
> > > > math and queuing theory is required, and that
> > goes beyond the research and
> > > > thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)
> > > >
> > > > Priscilla
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >  Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Arun
> > > > >
> > > > >=
> > > > >Arun Upadhyay
> > > > >SE Engineering
> > > > >MCSE CCNA CNA
> > > > >
> > > >
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Re: 2500 router password recovery

2000-10-10 Thread Tom Lisa

The problem is probably with the version of hyperterm you're using.  Get
teraterm or get update from MS site and control-break should then work.


"George H. York" wrote:

> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/index.shtml
> You will find everything you need here.
> Good Luck,
> George H. York
> CNE, CCNA
>
> Robert McIntire wrote:
>
> > I'm working with a used 2514 router with an unknown enable password.
> > I've tried the standard break technique but can't abort the boot
> > sequence.  I believe that break may be disabled.  I'm using Win NT 4
> > and hyperterminal to connect to the console port and am able to
> > connect and SHOW VERSION.   I am getting terminal feedback.  I've used
> > CTRL-BREAK AND CTRL-SHFT-6  to no avail.  How can I access ROMMON mode
> > and change the password?  Is there a jumper on the system board that
> > can be used to circumvent the password and access the router for
> > configuration?Any advice is appreciated,  Thanks
>
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Re: challenge problem

2000-10-10 Thread David Chandler

Have you checked for clocking issues between the Router and the DSU?  (garbage-in
garbage-out)  I have seen that issue many times.  Check the DSU's config vs a
known good config.

Are the errors also being seen on the carrier's frame-switch interface?  The guys
who test the circuit do not ussually have access to that info They just test
from their test point to your csu...

Good Luck

Dave



Brian wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Fred Flinstone wrote:
>
> > ok here it goes
> >
> > we have a customer we manage that is incurring CRC'c, input errors etc on
> > there serial interface.
>
> new install or working install?
>
> >
> > 1. stress tested the circuit many times from the frame cloud through the csu
> > as good
>
> What type of loopbacks did you do? (different loopbacks only go thru
> different parts of circuitry in a csu)
>
> > 2.  tries verious cables
> > 3. there are no interface modules i believe its a 2500 something router but
> > i can check
>
> if its a 2500, and you suspect possible serial port problem you can always
> try the other serial port for good measure, although hardware failure is
> probably low on the list I would say.
>
> > 4. the only times crc's cross the link (verified by a protocol analyzer) is
> > when we telnet from our management platform to the site...even if i just
> > enter one character in the telnet session crc's increment
>
> Are you seeing carrier transitions on one end and interface resets on the
> other?
>
> > 5. if you telnet from a neighboring router or dial in this produces no crc's
> > what so ever.
> > -
> > we have 3rd level engineers looking at this  i bet if you find an answer I
> > could get you a nice paying job...:)   (well maybe)
> > -
> > any help would be appreiciated
>
> Brian
>
> > -
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RE: challenge problem

2000-10-10 Thread Fenech, William J

Have you tried putting a hard-loop on the output of the CSU (that is, 
disconnecting the CSU from the Router and putting a looping plug into
the port that the Router had been jacked into)?

Bill

-Original Message-
From: Fred Flinstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: challenge problem


ok here it goes

we have a customer we manage that is incurring CRC'c, input errors etc on 
there serial interface.

1. stress tested the circuit many times from the frame cloud through the csu

as good
2.  tries verious cables
3. there are no interface modules i believe its a 2500 something router but 
i can check
4. the only times crc's cross the link (verified by a protocol analyzer) is 
when we telnet from our management platform to the site...even if i just 
enter one character in the telnet session crc's increment
5. if you telnet from a neighboring router or dial in this produces no crc's

what so ever.
-
we have 3rd level engineers looking at this  i bet if you find an answer I 
could get you a nice paying job...:)   (well maybe)
-
any help would be appreiciated
-
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Re: Internet traffic monitoring software

2000-10-10 Thread George H. York

http://www.websense.com/index.cfm

You didn't give us much info to go on, but this URL product works with
MANY different vendors, etc.

Jim Bond wrote:

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Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-10 Thread Arun Upadhyay


  Hi Priscilla 
   I found the solution.

Here it is:
 1.544Mbps = 192KB/sec
  Router begins to forward at the rate of 64KB/sec
means it is tranfering at the rate of 3 packets/sec
i.e it will take 1/3 sec. or 333 ms to transfer one
packet.

 Now it's getting packets at the rate of 5000
packets/sec i.e one packet in every 1/5000 sec. or
1000/5000 = .2 ms
so it will get 500 packets in 500x.2=100 ms

 So by the time router will forward first packet in
333ms, it's buffer will be full.

  Thanks for your help.

  
--- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oops. I was multiplying 512 bits times 5000 bits per
> second. I guess I lost 
> a digit. Sorry.
> 
> Now it's a much more interesting problem!
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> At 06:22 PM 10/10/00, Brian wrote:
> >On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >
> > > At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
> > > >Can anybody please help in solving this
> problem?
> > > >
> > > >A router is connected to a T1 line which has
> the
> > > >maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins
> to
> > > >forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per
> second,
> > >
> > > Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that
> to bits it's 512 bits.
> > > 5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000
> bits per second, which 
> > is a
> > > lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing
> will be needed at all. You
> > > could have just one buffer and no packets should
> ever get dropped.
> >
> >Priscilla,
> >
> >How did you come up with 560,000 bits per second? 
> Can you break that down
> >for me, I know I must be doing something wrong:
> >
> >64bytes * 8 = 512 bits
> >512 bits * 5000 packets = 256 bits
> >
> >brian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >there are 500 buffers available.
> > >
> > > How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are
> 64 bytes also?
> > >
> > >
> > > >Approximately how
> > > >long before the link is complelety saturated,
> the
> > > >buffers are full and the router begins to
> discard.
> > >
> > > If you are trying to get help with questions
> like this that appear on the
> > > CCIE written test and practice exams, you will
> want to give us an example
> > > of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For
> example, if the offered load
> > > to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link
> could handle, 500 buffers
> > > would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I
> think? Comments anyone?)
> > >
> > > In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant
> rate, so much more 
> > difficult
> > > math and queuing theory is required, and that
> goes beyond the research and
> > > thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)
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Re: 2500 router password recovery

2000-10-10 Thread George H. York

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/index.shtml
You will find everything you need here.
Good Luck,
George H. York
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Robert McIntire wrote:

> I'm working with a used 2514 router with an unknown enable password.
> I've tried the standard break technique but can't abort the boot
> sequence.  I believe that break may be disabled.  I'm using Win NT 4
> and hyperterminal to connect to the console port and am able to
> connect and SHOW VERSION.   I am getting terminal feedback.  I've used
> CTRL-BREAK AND CTRL-SHFT-6  to no avail.  How can I access ROMMON mode
> and change the password?  Is there a jumper on the system board that
> can be used to circumvent the password and access the router for
> configuration?Any advice is appreciated,  Thanks

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Re: ISL VLANS on a router - bridged?

2000-10-10 Thread Erick B.

Interesting question. 

My thinking is that because they are on 2 different
physical interfaces the VLANs / trunks remain seperate
unless bridged together. I may be wrong but it's
defiantly something to play with and see what happens.


--- Jay Hennigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On a switch, if a unique VLAN ID appears on more
> than one trunked
> interface, that VLAN is part of the same layer 2
> network and broadcast
> domain across all interfaces where it appears, based
> on the VLAN number.  
> 
> Is this also true on a router?  That is, if I have
> the following 
> configuration, what happens?  Do VLAN 2 on switches
> connected to 
> both interfaces see each other?  
> 
> interface FastEthernet0/0.2
>  description VLAN 2 to switch A
>  encapsulation isl 2
>  ip address 192.168.1.254 255.255.255.0
>  no ip redirects
>  no ip directed-broadcast
> 
> interface FastEthernet0/1.2
>  description VLAN 2 to switch B
>  encapsulation isl 2
>  ip address 192.168.2.254 255.255.255.0
>  no ip redirects
>  no ip directed-broadcast
> 
> Two separate subinterfaces of two separate physical
> interfaces connected 
> to two different LANs, but with the same ISL
> encapsulation "color".  Are 
> they bridged?  Would the IP address ranges both
> appear on both LANs?  
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> Can't find this in CCO anywhere.


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2500 router password recovery

2000-10-10 Thread Robert McIntire



I'm working with a used 2514 router with an unknown enable 
password.  I've tried the standard break technique but can't abort the boot 
sequence.  I believe that break may be disabled.  I'm using Win NT 4 
and hyperterminal to connect to the console port and am able to connect and SHOW 
VERSION.   I am getting terminal feedback.  I've used 
CTRL-BREAK AND CTRL-SHFT-6  to no avail.  How can I access ROMMON mode 
and change the password?  Is there a jumper on the system board that can be 
used to circumvent the password and access the router for 
configuration?
        Any advice is 
appreciated,  Thanks


Re: challenge problem

2000-10-10 Thread Brian

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Fred Flinstone wrote:

> ok here it goes
> 
> we have a customer we manage that is incurring CRC'c, input errors etc on 
> there serial interface.

new install or working install?

> 
> 1. stress tested the circuit many times from the frame cloud through the csu 
> as good

What type of loopbacks did you do? (different loopbacks only go thru
different parts of circuitry in a csu)

> 2.  tries verious cables
> 3. there are no interface modules i believe its a 2500 something router but 
> i can check

if its a 2500, and you suspect possible serial port problem you can always
try the other serial port for good measure, although hardware failure is
probably low on the list I would say.

> 4. the only times crc's cross the link (verified by a protocol analyzer) is 
> when we telnet from our management platform to the site...even if i just 
> enter one character in the telnet session crc's increment

Are you seeing carrier transitions on one end and interface resets on the
other?


> 5. if you telnet from a neighboring router or dial in this produces no crc's 
> what so ever.
> -
> we have 3rd level engineers looking at this  i bet if you find an answer I 
> could get you a nice paying job...:)   (well maybe)
> -
> any help would be appreiciated

Brian

> -
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October 25 Halifax

2000-10-10 Thread Dan

I have Oct 25 in Halifax if anyone wants it

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Re: Question

2000-10-10 Thread whatshakin

How big are the buffers in question?

- Original Message - 
From: Arun Upadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:01 PM
Subject: Question


> Can anybody please help in solving this problem?
> 
> A router is connected to a T1 line which has the
> maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins to
> forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per second,
> there are 500 buffers available. Approximately how
> long before the link is complelety saturated, the
> buffers are full and the router begins to discard.
> 
> 
>  Thanks.
> 
>  Arun
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challenge problem

2000-10-10 Thread Fred Flinstone

ok here it goes

we have a customer we manage that is incurring CRC'c, input errors etc on 
there serial interface.

1. stress tested the circuit many times from the frame cloud through the csu 
as good
2.  tries verious cables
3. there are no interface modules i believe its a 2500 something router but 
i can check
4. the only times crc's cross the link (verified by a protocol analyzer) is 
when we telnet from our management platform to the site...even if i just 
enter one character in the telnet session crc's increment
5. if you telnet from a neighboring router or dial in this produces no crc's 
what so ever.
-
we have 3rd level engineers looking at this  i bet if you find an answer I 
could get you a nice paying job...:)   (well maybe)
-
any help would be appreiciated
-
thanks...kyle
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Do You have used CCNP 2.0 CBT

2000-10-10 Thread manoj kumar

  Hi,
I am from India and am pursuing my CCNP.
DO you have used CCNP 2.0 CBT or Video's ? 
I am willing to purchace them.
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Re: Frame Relay problem

2000-10-10 Thread Charles Ryan

Try setting encapsulation to "frame-relay ietf" and LMI type to "ansi" or
"ansi annex d"

-Chuck

- Original Message -
From: "Hans Stout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:24 PM
Subject: Frame Relay problem


> Hi colleagues,
>
> I have a problem with my frame relay connection; the serial interface is
> up/down, and when I debug the serial interface, I can see that the
interface
> is constantly trying to restart:23w5d:
>
> Serial5/0: attempting to restart:
> --More--
> 23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 4, yourseen 0, DTE down
> --More--
> 23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 5, yourseen 0, DTE down
>
> What could be the reason for this ? I'll add the output for the sh int:
>
>
> Serial5/0 is up, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is M4T
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set
>   Keepalive set (10 sec)
>   LMI enq sent  240, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
>   LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
>   LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
>   FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
>   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts
0
>   Last input 05:47:09, output 00:00:02, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:54
>   Queueing strategy: fifo
>   Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>  0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
>  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>  0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
>  354 packets output, 4649 bytes, 0 underruns
>  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 80 interface resets
>  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
>  80 carrier transitions DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=u
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
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Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Oops. I was multiplying 512 bits times 5000 bits per second. I guess I lost 
a digit. Sorry.

Now it's a much more interesting problem!

Priscilla

At 06:22 PM 10/10/00, Brian wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>
> > At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
> > >Can anybody please help in solving this problem?
> > >
> > >A router is connected to a T1 line which has the
> > >maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins to
> > >forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per second,
> >
> > Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that to bits it's 512 bits.
> > 5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000 bits per second, which 
> is a
> > lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing will be needed at all. You
> > could have just one buffer and no packets should ever get dropped.
>
>Priscilla,
>
>How did you come up with 560,000 bits per second?  Can you break that down
>for me, I know I must be doing something wrong:
>
>64bytes * 8 = 512 bits
>512 bits * 5000 packets = 256 bits
>
>brian
>
>
>
>
> >
> > >there are 500 buffers available.
> >
> > How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are 64 bytes also?
> >
> >
> > >Approximately how
> > >long before the link is complelety saturated, the
> > >buffers are full and the router begins to discard.
> >
> > If you are trying to get help with questions like this that appear on the
> > CCIE written test and practice exams, you will want to give us an example
> > of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For example, if the offered load
> > to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link could handle, 500 buffers
> > would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I think? Comments anyone?)
> >
> > In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant rate, so much more 
> difficult
> > math and queuing theory is required, and that goes beyond the research and
> > thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> >
> >
> > >  Thanks.
> > >
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Revisit of Out of Office reply problem

2000-10-10 Thread Paul Borghese

Hi everyone,

I finally got the precedence: bulk header installed on the e-mail
messages for this group.  This header, according to some suggestions,
may stop Out of Office replies.  So, let's keep our fingers crossed. 
Two messages I sent tonight only generated one Out of Office reply -- so
it may be working to limit the problem.

Of course I am wondering how many people out there have software that
blocks precedence:bulk messages as being from spammers.

Keep me posted!

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Re: Frame Relay problem

2000-10-10 Thread jason yee

You might want to check the LMI type follow by the
encapsulation type to see if it is ok 


also set keepalive to zero to see if the interface
comes up if not you got a back interface


suaveguru24
--- Hans Stout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi colleagues,
> 
> I have a problem with my frame relay connection; the
> serial interface is 
> up/down, and when I debug the serial interface, I
> can see that the interface 
> is constantly trying to restart:23w5d:
> 
> Serial5/0: attempting to restart:
> --More--
> 23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 4, yourseen 0,
> DTE down
> --More--
> 23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 5, yourseen 0,
> DTE down
> 
> What could be the reason for this ? I'll add the
> output for the sh int:
> 
> 
> Serial5/0 is up, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is M4T
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not
> set
>   Keepalive set (10 sec)
>   LMI enq sent  240, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd
> 0, DTE LMI down
>   LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
>   LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
>   FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
>   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0,
> interface broadcasts 0
>   Last input 05:47:09, output 00:00:02, output hang
> never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters
> 00:39:54
>   Queueing strategy: fifo
>   Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0
> drops
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>  0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
>  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0
> throttles
>  0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0
> ignored, 0 abort
>  354 packets output, 4649 bytes, 0 underruns
>  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 80 interface
> resets
>  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers
> swapped out
>  80 carrier transitions DCD=up  DSR=up 
> DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=u
> 
> Thanks for your help in advance.
> 
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Re: BGP full routes

2000-10-10 Thread Brian W.

My company just upgraded its net facing routers to 128 megs for this very
reason.  

Brian

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Ya Wen wrote:

> Hi, is there anybody who is using a Cisco 3620 router with 64MB to
> handle BGP4 with full Internet routing table? I am currently multihoming
> to two ISPs using two Cisco 3620s and planning to run BGP4 with them.
> But the maximum DRAM a 3620 can handle is 64MB. There is no way I could
> upgrade it to be 128MB unless I change to two bigger boxes. But before I
> do that, I just want to check and see if 64MB is  sufficient of handling
> all the Internet routing table.
> 
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Re: ISL VLANS on a router - bridged?

2000-10-10 Thread Jay Hennigan

On 10 Oct 2000 17:04:53 -0400, Joseph Ezerski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:I am not sure, but logic seems to dictate that both interfaces belong to the
:same layer 2 network.  The way I am picturing it is like this:
:
:In any regular layer 2 switched network, you can have many devices of the
:same type.  You could have many clients or servers, or printers or even
:routers.  So why wouldn't the same hold true for your scenario? Now, when
:you bring it up to layer 3, you definitly have two distinct subnets working.
:The differnece would lie in how your end users are configured, ie- Which
:interface IP do you assign as their default gateway...
:
:Sorry for the oversimplification.  It's my first day on the list and I am
:trying to get involved.

What troubles me is that I tend to think of the fast ethernet interfaces
as separate physical circuits, and as such having a subinterface on two 
of them with the same encapsulation ID should imply that they are indeed
different circuits.  In a router, the syntax is much like that used with 
frame-relay interfaces, "encapsulation ISL [identifier]", rather than as
seen on a switch, "VLAN [identifier].  

If I have two frame-relay interfaces that go to different circuits but 
both of them have a DLCI 16, they aren't bridged at layer 2.  If I have
two ethernet interfaces and both have IPX encapsulation SNAP, they are
not bridged.  From a configuration standpoint, it would make logical 
sense that the ISL "encapsulation color ID' would follow that of other 
sub-interfaces.  Yet from a switch standpoint, the VLAN ID should imply
that they're connected.  

Still confused, and don't have the gear to test in the lab.  

:-Original Message-
:From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
:Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:47 PM
:To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:Subject: ISL VLANS on a router - bridged?
:
:
:On a switch, if a unique VLAN ID appears on more than one trunked
:interface, that VLAN is part of the same layer 2 network and broadcast
:domain across all interfaces where it appears, based on the VLAN number.  
:
:Is this also true on a router?  That is, if I have the following 
:configuration, what happens?  Do VLAN 2 on switches connected to 
:both interfaces see each other?  
:
:interface FastEthernet0/0.2
: description VLAN 2 to switch A
: encapsulation isl 2
: ip address 192.168.1.254 255.255.255.0
: no ip redirects
: no ip directed-broadcast
:
:interface FastEthernet0/1.2
: description VLAN 2 to switch B
: encapsulation isl 2
: ip address 192.168.2.254 255.255.255.0
: no ip redirects
: no ip directed-broadcast
:
:Two separate subinterfaces of two separate physical interfaces connected 
:to two different LANs, but with the same ISL encapsulation "color".  Are 
:they bridged?  Would the IP address ranges both appear on both LANs?  
:
:Can't find this in CCO anywhere.


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Re: Router / Switch Simulation for BCMSN (Switching Exam)

2000-10-10 Thread Francisco Muniz

There's a CIM for LAN Switching as well. I don't know how good is it, as
I haven't used it. I'm supposed to get them soon, though, so I'll let
you know. The address is www.cisco.com/go/cim
What is working for DI like? I may go work there.

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Re: Password encryption decoder

2000-10-10 Thread Daniel

I don't think that you are using the software correctly.  I just tried the
Boson software with the following passwords and they turned out fine:

password 7 100F295A41522C4D464C63
Real password - !@#$%^&*()

password 7 153645235A0D6A
Real password - D.O>G!

The help button in the Boson Software states the following:

When a Cisco Level 7 encrypted password is entered, this
program will decrypt it to its clear test form.  Cisco Level 7
encrypted passwords look like:

password 7 052b010a2f580033

The encrypted password is the text that appears after the
"password 7 ", this is all you need to enter.


Daniel


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> Hello,
>
> Boson doesn't work most of the time if you have multiple components
> type 5 password ( like a char, a punctuation, and a number ).  It gives
> wrong one or two char.
>
> For type 7 (secret) password, it's to my believe it's hashed, meaning
> one-way encryption, you can't decode it back, unless you brute force it.
>
> Please correct me if i'm wrong.
>
> At 03:21 11/10/2000, you wrote:
> >The Boson software works great for most password decryption.  Do you know
of
> >any software that will decrypt enable secret passwords?  The Boson
software
> >will not do it.
> >
> >Daniel
> >
> >
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> > > William,
> > >
> > > Try www.boson.com  They have a free set of utilties that includes a
tftp
> > > server, syslog server, and password decoder.
> > >
> > > Don Barnhill
> > > MCSE,ASE,CCNP,CCDA
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Plantier, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> > > Subject: Password encryption decoder
> > >
> > >
> > > Where can I find the Password encryption decoder for Cisco encrypted
> > > passwords?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
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Re: BGP full routes

2000-10-10 Thread Brian

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Ya Wen wrote:

> Hi, is there anybody who is using a Cisco 3620 router with 64MB to
> handle BGP4 with full Internet routing table? I am currently multihoming
> to two ISPs using two Cisco 3620s and planning to run BGP4 with them.

that should work.64MB is getting tight though.  Don't try to run
CEF or soft-in.

> But the maximum DRAM a 3620 can handle is 64MB. There is no way I could
> upgrade it to be 128MB unless I change to two bigger boxes. But before I
> do that, I just want to check and see if 64MB is  sufficient of handling
> all the Internet routing table.

will probably just be tight but workable.  The good news is all your
modules and config will plug nicely into a 3640/3660.

Brian


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Re: MAX. VLAN's

2000-10-10 Thread jenny . mcleod



I willingly bow to your more recent information :-)
The CLSC manual is dated 1997, so it wouldn't surprise me if all the figures in
it (not just the 19xxs) have been superseded by later software versions.
JMcL
-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 11/10/2000 08:40 am
---


"Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 10/10/2000 11:57:21 am


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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:  Re: MAX. VLAN's



on a 19xx, Enterprise IOS yields a bit more than 4 vlans...

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca1900/prodlit/s1928_ov.htm

Up to 1024 port-based VLANs with ISL trunking (Enterprise Edition only)

Up to 64 ATM Emulated LANs (ELANs) (Enterprise Edition only)

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP

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Subject: Re: MAX. VLAN's


>
>
> According to my CLSC manual, a Cat 5000 can support up to 250 *active*
VLANs,
> and up to 1000 all up.  A Cat 3000 supports 64 VLANs, and a Cisco 7000
router
> supports 255 VLANs.  The Cat 1900 and Cat 2820 support up to 4 VLANs.  The
> hardware covered in the CLSC course was outdated even when I took the
course, so
> I don't have figures for any of the newer models - I expect it would be on
CCO
> somewhere though (but I'm too lazy to check :-)
>
> JMcL
> -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 10/10/2000
09:03 am
> ---
>
>
> "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 10/10/2000 07:23:18 am
>
> Please respond to "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA)
> Subject:  Re: MAX. VLAN's
>
>
>
> According to the IOS Switching services books, it's 1000 Vlans if you are
> using ISL encapsulation.  No limit is mentioned for 802.10 or per-model.
>
> Anybody got a more definitive answer on this?
>
>
> Original Message Follows
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> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:34:14 +0530
>
> Friends,
>
> I hv a question.
>
> Can anyone tell me What is the MAX. no. of vlan's can be created using a
> switch/switches . Is there any limitation to it or it is model specific.
> What is the max no. of switches we can have per VLAN.
>
> thanx
> HP
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RE: Password encryption decoder

2000-10-10 Thread Taylor, Don
Title: RE: Password encryption decoder





It can't be done. Cisco uses the MD5 algorithm for their secret passwords, which is a one-way hash. The hash is stored and when a password is entered, it's run through the algorithm. If the gibberish created matches the stored hash, access is granted. The *actual* password is never stored on the system.

- Don


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The Boson software works great for most password decryption.  Do you know of
any software that will decrypt enable secret passwords?  The Boson software
will not do it.


Daniel



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> William,
>
> Try www.boson.com  They have a free set of utilties that includes a tftp
> server, syslog server, and password decoder.
>
> Don Barnhill
> MCSE,ASE,CCNP,CCDA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Plantier, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:13 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Password encryption decoder
>
>
> Where can I find the Password encryption decoder for Cisco encrypted
> passwords?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wm. Spencer Plantier
> LAN Engineer
> (919) 474-1300 ext 0873 Office
> (919) 474-1056 Fax
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Re: CCIE question about buffers being used up on router

2000-10-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 12:01 PM 10/10/00, Arun Upadhyay wrote:
>Can anybody please help in solving this problem?
>
>A router is connected to a T1 line which has the
>maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins to
>forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per second,

Do you mean 64-byte packets? If you convert that to bits it's 512 bits. 
5000 packets of that size per second is 560,000 bits per second, which is a 
lot less than 1.544 Mbps so not much buffereing will be needed at all. You 
could have just one buffer and no packets should ever get dropped.

>there are 500 buffers available.

How big are the buffers? Can we assume they are 64 bytes also?


>Approximately how
>long before the link is complelety saturated, the
>buffers are full and the router begins to discard.

If you are trying to get help with questions like this that appear on the 
CCIE written test and practice exams, you will want to give us an example 
of where the WAN link is oversubscribed. For example, if the offered load 
to the WAN link is 110% more than the WAN link could handle, 500 buffers 
would get used up in about 5000 packet times. (I think? Comments anyone?)

In reality, packets don't arrive at a constant rate, so much more difficult 
math and queuing theory is required, and that goes beyond the research and 
thinking I'm willing to do right now. &;-)

Priscilla



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Re: Password encryption decoder

2000-10-10 Thread Paul Borghese

Actually you have it backwards.  The type 5 passwords are derived from a
one-way hash function using the MD5 hashing algorithm.  The router takes the
password you give and run the password through the same algorithm.  If the
hash value matches what is in the configuration, the password is accepted.

The algorithm is sufficiently complicated that even knowing the hashed
value, it would be computationally hard (but not impossible) to generate a
password that would create the value.  But a corollary to all of this is
that the Cisco router does not "know" the original password!  So this
encryption scheme can not be used where the Cisco Router needs to present
the original password (such as when the router initiates an ISND call using
chap authentication.)

The other two types of encryption are type 0 and type 7.  Type 0 is no
encryption and the password is stored using plain-text in the configuration.
Someone looking over the configuration will quickly learn the password.
Type 7 is only moderately better as the password is XOR against a constant.
So the hacker would need run the same computation to derive the password.

Ok so what about the enable password and enable secret.  Originally we only
had the enable password that was using the type 7 encryption.  This password
could be quickly compromised by dumpster divers that know the constant value
(not very hard to find).

Therefore, Cisco came up with the new format using the MD5 hashing
algorithm.  This new password was called "enable secret" to keep the "enable
password" available in the configuration for backwards compatibility.  If
both are maintained in a configuration, the enable secret is used and enable
password is ignored.  Only if the router is using a version of the IOS (now
very old) that does not understand the enable secret will the enable
password be used.

This is also why when you run the interactive setup command the program
complains if you use the same password for enable secret and enable
password.  Using the same password for both allows dumpster divers to gain
access to your router.

Hope this helps!

Take care,

Paul Borghese


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Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Password encryption decoder


> Hello,
>
> Boson doesn't work most of the time if you have multiple components
> type 5 password ( like a char, a punctuation, and a number ).  It gives
> wrong one or two char.
>
> For type 7 (secret) password, it's to my believe it's hashed, meaning
> one-way encryption, you can't decode it back, unless you brute force it.
>
> Please correct me if i'm wrong.
>
> At 03:21 11/10/2000, you wrote:
> >The Boson software works great for most password decryption.  Do you know
of
> >any software that will decrypt enable secret passwords?  The Boson
software
> >will not do it.
> >
> >Daniel



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RE: Password encryption decoder

2000-10-10 Thread Joseph Ezerski

I beleive the enable password encryption is only 40 bit, so if you can get a
copy of the string you should be able to use any standard 40 bit password
cracker.

Also, if it is a matter of recovering a forgotten password and you have
physical access to the router, cisco.com has outlined a procedure to reset
the password through ROMMON mode.  You'll have to search the website,
though..

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Password encryption decoder


The Boson software works great for most password decryption.  Do you know of
any software that will decrypt enable secret passwords?  The Boson software
will not do it.

Daniel


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> William,
>
> Try www.boson.com  They have a free set of utilties that includes a tftp
> server, syslog server, and password decoder.
>
> Don Barnhill
> MCSE,ASE,CCNP,CCDA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Plantier, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:13 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Password encryption decoder
>
>
> Where can I find the Password encryption decoder for Cisco encrypted
> passwords?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wm. Spencer Plantier
> LAN Engineer
> (919) 474-1300 ext 0873 Office
> (919) 474-1056 Fax
> (919)696-8848 Cell
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Re: Password encryption decoder

2000-10-10 Thread Leonard Ong

Hello,

Boson doesn't work most of the time if you have multiple components
type 5 password ( like a char, a punctuation, and a number ).  It gives
wrong one or two char.

For type 7 (secret) password, it's to my believe it's hashed, meaning
one-way encryption, you can't decode it back, unless you brute force it.

Please correct me if i'm wrong.

At 03:21 11/10/2000, you wrote:
>The Boson software works great for most password decryption.  Do you know of
>any software that will decrypt enable secret passwords?  The Boson software
>will not do it.
>
>Daniel
>
>
>""Barnhill, Don"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > William,
> >
> > Try www.boson.com  They have a free set of utilties that includes a tftp
> > server, syslog server, and password decoder.
> >
> > Don Barnhill
> > MCSE,ASE,CCNP,CCDA
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Plantier, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:13 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Password encryption decoder
> >
> >
> > Where can I find the Password encryption decoder for Cisco encrypted
> > passwords?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Wm. Spencer Plantier
> > LAN Engineer
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Re: Password encryption decoder

2000-10-10 Thread Paul Borghese

Try http://www.l0pht.com/~kingpin/pilot.html

It is a program that will decript a Cisco type 7 password using a palm
pilot.  The scheme is really simple since it is just an XOR against a
constant.

Paul Borghese


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Subject: Re: Password encryption decoder


> The Boson software works great for most password decryption.  Do you know
of
> any software that will decrypt enable secret passwords?  The Boson
software
> will not do it.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> ""Barnhill, Don"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > William,
> >
> > Try www.boson.com  They have a free set of utilties that includes a tftp
> > server, syslog server, and password decoder.
> >
> > Don Barnhill
> > MCSE,ASE,CCNP,CCDA
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Plantier, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:13 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Password encryption decoder
> >
> >
> > Where can I find the Password encryption decoder for Cisco encrypted
> > passwords?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Wm. Spencer Plantier
> > LAN Engineer
> > (919) 474-1300 ext 0873 Office
> > (919) 474-1056 Fax
> > (919)696-8848 Cell
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RE: BGP full routes

2000-10-10 Thread Craig Johnson

As long as you leave synchronization off, it should be fine.  The routing
table really only takes up about 12 megs, so unless you have DS3's on this
router, you should be ok.

Craig

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Subject: BGP full routes


Hi, is there anybody who is using a Cisco 3620 router with 64MB to
handle BGP4 with full Internet routing table? I am currently multihoming
to two ISPs using two Cisco 3620s and planning to run BGP4 with them.
But the maximum DRAM a 3620 can handle is 64MB. There is no way I could
upgrade it to be 128MB unless I change to two bigger boxes. But before I
do that, I just want to check and see if 64MB is  sufficient of handling
all the Internet routing table.

Thanks very much!

-Ya

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RE: ISL VLANS on a router - bridged?

2000-10-10 Thread Joseph Ezerski

I am not sure, but logic seems to dictate that both interfaces belong to the
same layer 2 network.  The way I am picturing it is like this:

In any regular layer 2 switched network, you can have many devices of the
same type.  You could have many clients or servers, or printers or even
routers.  So why wouldn't the same hold true for your scenario? Now, when
you bring it up to layer 3, you definitly have two distinct subnets working.
The differnece would lie in how your end users are configured, ie- Which
interface IP do you assign as their default gateway...

Sorry for the oversimplification.  It's my first day on the list and I am
trying to get involved.

Joseph Ezerski
LMKI Communications

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Subject: ISL VLANS on a router - bridged?


On a switch, if a unique VLAN ID appears on more than one trunked
interface, that VLAN is part of the same layer 2 network and broadcast
domain across all interfaces where it appears, based on the VLAN number.  

Is this also true on a router?  That is, if I have the following 
configuration, what happens?  Do VLAN 2 on switches connected to 
both interfaces see each other?  

interface FastEthernet0/0.2
 description VLAN 2 to switch A
 encapsulation isl 2
 ip address 192.168.1.254 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 no ip directed-broadcast

interface FastEthernet0/1.2
 description VLAN 2 to switch B
 encapsulation isl 2
 ip address 192.168.2.254 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 no ip directed-broadcast

Two separate subinterfaces of two separate physical interfaces connected 
to two different LANs, but with the same ISL encapsulation "color".  Are 
they bridged?  Would the IP address ranges both appear on both LANs?  

Can't find this in CCO anywhere.

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RE: BGP full routes

2000-10-10 Thread Marshal Schoener

NO WAY :-)

  Good luck!!!

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To: Cisco GroupStudy
Subject: BGP full routes


Hi, is there anybody who is using a Cisco 3620 router with 64MB to
handle BGP4 with full Internet routing table? I am currently multihoming
to two ISPs using two Cisco 3620s and planning to run BGP4 with them.
But the maximum DRAM a 3620 can handle is 64MB. There is no way I could
upgrade it to be 128MB unless I change to two bigger boxes. But before I
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RE: CISCO SWITCH

2000-10-10 Thread Lance Hubbard

What if the world blows up?.

The Autoswitch is a very simple device utilizing simple physical relays and 
voltage censors.  I have never seen one die.

Cheers,

Lance


>From: "Tim Harkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Tim Harkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: CISCO SWITCH
>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:24:05 EDT
>
>What happens  if the Autoswitch fails?  Ahh, the joys of fault tolerance:)
>
>
>Original Message Follows
>From: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Lance Hubbard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: CISCO SWITCH
>Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 15:57:36 PDT
>
>Shore Microsystems makes a "Autoswitch", which dual homes to two
>Access-layer ethernet switches.  Workstations are plugged into the
>autoswitch, which uses a voltage censor to detect link failure from either
>of the Access-layer ethernet switches.  The autoswitch then uses physical
>relays to "autoswitch" the workstation connectivity to the alternate
>Access-layer ethernet switch.  The autoswitch is able to perform this
>failover in mere hundredths of a second.behold..
>
>switchswitch
>  \   /
>   \ /
>Autoswitch
>|
>|
>Workstation
>
>cheers,
>
>Lance
>
>>From: "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: CISCO SWITCH
>>Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:20:04 CDT
>>
>>A better solution is a Switch with built-in failover.  I.e. redundant 
>>Power
>>supplies/Pocessor Cards.  Equipment doesn't fail often, and with hot-swap
>>and hot-spare technologies, you can take it off of your worry list.
>>
>>NOTE:  Please disregard this message if you work in a Nuclear Power Plant,
>>or Weapons of Mass Destruction Facility.
>>
>>
>>Original Message Follows
>>From: "Iohan Reyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Iohan Reyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Pushkar Shirolkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: CISCO SWITCH
>>Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:40:42 -0400
>>
>>Ummm...I don't understand how you can provide a switch failover solution 
>>at
>>the access layer.  So, if you have a 24-port switch, with theoretically 24
>>workstations plugged into it, you want it to failover to another switch if
>>it fails?  You'd have to physically unplug all those cables and plug them
>>into the new switch!  Or maybe you can have two NICs at each workstation
>>plug each of them into two separate switcheswhat mechanism would you
>>use
>>to do the failover then - Spanning-Tree, RIP?
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>>Pushkar Shirolkar
>>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:36 AM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: CISCO SWITCH
>>
>>
>>hi,
>>thanx for the reply .
>>but i want the switch failover solution .. not the backbone failover ..
>>what
>>if the switch itself fails .. does it failover to another switch ... does
>>it
>>have any specific failover port ?
>>
>>Pushkar
>>
>>Bob Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> > 3524xl series has some redundancy functions to it if you are refering 
>>to
>> > backbone failover problems.  ie using 2 gbic cards to different 
>>backbone
>> > connections and such.
>> >
>> > Also has the router IOS built in which has it's own pro's and con's
>>associated
>> > to it.
>> >
>> > Pushkar Shirolkar wrote:
>> >
>> > > hi,
>> > >
>> > > i have a requirement that says that i need to have a redundant cisco
>>switch
>> > > .. i.e. there is a LAN and the if the switch fails .. the other 
>>switch
>> > > should take over. this is possible in the cisco 6000 series of
>>switches
>>...
>> > > but is there some lower end solution .. that costs less and also my
>> > > requirement of ports on the switch is also less ... say about 24 
>>ports
>>...
>> > > is there any product available which does so .. in 3500 or 2900 
>>series
>>?
>> > > like using ISL (inter-switch link) .. but for the lower end switches
>>...
>> > >
>> > > Please reply ASAP
>> > >
>> > > thanx
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RE: CCDA?

2000-10-10 Thread William E Gragido

Yes, study those case studies in detail!  They are tedious

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> 
> 
> hi anyone 
> 
> got any tips on CCDA?
> 
> jASON
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Re: 2501 Question, remote access

2000-10-10 Thread Daniel

ML

I would set up a modem with access to the console port.  The AUX port is
good, but what if you damage you configuration?  What if you need to break a
password?  There are security reasons why you may not want to do this, but
if you take the necessary precautions, you should be fine.  The following
links to the Cisco Web site should provide you with all of the information
that you need.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/50.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/76/9.html

I also use a specific MultiTech modem that is designed to be connected to
Cisco routers.  The proper initialization strings are burned is as default
settings.  That way, the modem never looses its initialization strings.  If
it does, the modem is broken, and you replace it with a new one.


Here is a great excerpt from one of those links.

Console Port Issues
There are several advantages to connecting a modem to the console port of a
router instead of the AUX port; however, the disadvantages are significant.
  Advantages of connecting a modem on the console port:
a.. Passwords can be recovered remotely. You may still need someone
on-site with the router to toggle the power, but aside from that, it's
identical to being there with the router.
b.. It is a convenient method of attaching a second modem to a router
without async ports. This is beneficial if you need to access the router for
configuration or management while leaving the AUX port free for
dial-on-demand routing (DDR).
c.. Some routers (for example, Cisco 1600s) do not have AUX ports. If
you want to connect a modem to the router and leave the serial port(s) free
for other connections, the console is the only option.

  Disadvantages of connecting a modem on the console port:
a.. The console port does not support RS232 modem control (data set
ready/Data Carrier Detect (DSR/DCD), data terminal ready (DTR). Therefore,
when the EXEC session terminates (logout), the modem connection will not
drop automatically; the user will need to manually disconnect the session.
b.. More seriously, if the modem connection should drop, the EXEC
session will not automatically reset. This can present a security hole, in
that a subsequent call into that modem will be able to access the console
without entering a password. The hole can be made smaller by setting a tight
exec-timeout on the line. However, if security is important, it is
recommended to use a modem that can provide a password prompt.
c.. Unlike other async lines, the console port does not support hardware
(Clear to Send/Ready to Send (CTS/RTS) flow control. It is recommended to
use no flow control. If data overruns are encountered, however, software
(XON/XOFF) flow control may be enabled.
d.. The console ports on most systems only support speeds of up to 9600
bps.
e.. The console port lacks reverse telnet capability. If the modem loses
its stored initialization string, the only remedy is to physically
disconnect the modem from the router and attach it to another device (such
as an AUX port or a PC) to reinitialize. If a modem on an AUX port loses its
initialization string, you can use reverse telnet remotely to correct the
problem.
f.. A console port cannot be used for dial-on-demand routing; it has no
corresponding async interface.

Sincerely,

Daniel


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> 2501.  In other words I need to set up an analog line and then dial into
the
> router.  This router has one Ethernet and two serial ports.  My thought is
I
> cant do it but maybe there is a way.
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> ML
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RE: SmartCertify CBT software for study

2000-10-10 Thread Marshal Schoener
Title: SmartCertify CBT software for study



I 
completely agree.
I 
tried using the CBT for the CCNA, and I couldnt get passed all the damn 
clicking.
It 
just doesnt have enough info.
Read 
books :-)
 
I put 
the CBT aside after 3 days and read the Cisco Press book and passed the test 
;-)
   Good luck!

  -Original Message-From: Vijay Ramcharan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:40 
  PMTo: 'Taylor, Don'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
  SmartCertify CBT software for study
  I 
  would strongly advise you to take the salesperson's words with few grains of 
  salt.  I've purchased their old MCSE 4.0 cbt ($1000) with all the 
  bells and whistles of hands on exercises.  I ended up setting the CBT 
  aside and buying another for $150 from New Riders that helped me through the 
  MS exams.  There is just not enough detail on the material that it's 
  supposed to teach you.  I also bought the ACRC CBT from them last year 
  (again with all the bells and whistles) and was sorely disappointed and even 
  more upset that I had wasted another grand.  I thought that there would 
  have been improvements in the CBT material.  Anyway, I've learned my 
  lesson.  I use books only now.
  Way 
  too much clicking (I guess that's what they call it interactive) and very 
  disappointing hands on (I shudder to put that term on their 
  exercises)
  Vijay Ramcharan 
  CCNP, CCDP, MCSE 
  
-Original Message-From: Taylor, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 
1:03 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: SmartCertify 
CBT software for study
Does anyone out there have experience/opinions on 
SmartCertify's (www.smartcertify.com) CBT offerings? I'm looking at possibly 
purchasing their Cisco IMCR package, which, I'm told, leads one through all 
sorts of theory about routing/switching (to fill in any gaps your current 
education left), information about the routers themselves (how the backplane 
operates, etc.), and includes a section that simulates IOS configuration of 
everything from setting the hostname to configuring BGP and IOS upgrades. 
Not only that, but the salesman told me they guarantee that you'll be ready 
for and PASS your CCIE lab (not written - he was specific) once you can work 
your way through the whole CBT.
I was a bit skeptical, but he was insistent, so I'm 
interested in checking it out. But for such a magical product I was 
expecting the price to be on the order of $5 - $10K. Turns out it's only 
$1499. A guarantee like that for the price of a router is just too good to 
ignore, so I wanted to get some feedback from anyone that knows anything 
about these.
Thanks! 
- Don 


BGP full routes

2000-10-10 Thread Ya Wen

Hi, is there anybody who is using a Cisco 3620 router with 64MB to
handle BGP4 with full Internet routing table? I am currently multihoming
to two ISPs using two Cisco 3620s and planning to run BGP4 with them.
But the maximum DRAM a 3620 can handle is 64MB. There is no way I could
upgrade it to be 128MB unless I change to two bigger boxes. But before I
do that, I just want to check and see if 64MB is  sufficient of handling
all the Internet routing table.

Thanks very much!

-Ya

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RE: Cannot connect to pix thru console.

2000-10-10 Thread Bernard

This is a feature of PIX.
No one can telnet to it unless explicitly allowed.
You need a command "telnet x.x.x.x 255.255.255.255" in your PIX.


Bernard



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Sent: 10/10/2000 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Cannot connect to pix thru console.

On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Rajeev Karamchand wrote:

> Hi Group.
> 
> I cannot connect to the pix thru console. After reboot
> everything is fine. Any Clues

I have seen this behavior with routers, but normally it would output an
error message to the console.  Perhaps their was not enough memory
available for the console session...

Brian


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Re: Password encryption decoder

2000-10-10 Thread Daniel

The Boson software works great for most password decryption.  Do you know of
any software that will decrypt enable secret passwords?  The Boson software
will not do it.

Daniel


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Trunk question

2000-10-10 Thread Jeff Walzer

I have a question concerning trunk ports.

I am about to install two 2924M XL switches with the GBIC modules (both
slots are filled). I plan to connect both switches in parallel using the
GBICs for redundancy. I also need to connect to a 3640. I assume that both
the GBIC interfaces and a port on the switch will be trunk ports? Is this
possible?

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RE: SmartCertify CBT software for study

2000-10-10 Thread Deloso, Elmer G (WPNSTA Yorktown)
Title: SmartCertify CBT software for study



Don't 
believe the salesman. If I had to do it again I wouldn't waste 
my
money 
on CBT. I've used their MCSE and ICRC products and I think 
it's
a 
waste of time and money. Dealing with them is like buying from a used car 
salesman ( my personal experience).There is no way in the world you'll get near 
CCNP with sims unless you augment them with real 
hands-on experience.
My 2 
cents.
 
Elmer

  -Original Message-From: Taylor, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 
  1:03 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: SmartCertify 
  CBT software for study
  Does anyone out there have experience/opinions on 
  SmartCertify's (www.smartcertify.com) CBT offerings? I'm looking at possibly 
  purchasing their Cisco IMCR package, which, I'm told, leads one through all 
  sorts of theory about routing/switching (to fill in any gaps your current 
  education left), information about the routers themselves (how the backplane 
  operates, etc.), and includes a section that simulates IOS configuration of 
  everything from setting the hostname to configuring BGP and IOS upgrades. Not 
  only that, but the salesman told me they guarantee that you'll be ready for 
  and PASS your CCIE lab (not written - he was specific) once you can work your 
  way through the whole CBT.
  I was a bit skeptical, but he was insistent, so I'm interested 
  in checking it out. But for such a magical product I was expecting the price 
  to be on the order of $5 - $10K. Turns out it's only $1499. A guarantee like 
  that for the price of a router is just too good to ignore, so I wanted to get 
  some feedback from anyone that knows anything about these.
  Thanks! 
  - Don 


ISL VLANS on a router - bridged?

2000-10-10 Thread Jay Hennigan

On a switch, if a unique VLAN ID appears on more than one trunked
interface, that VLAN is part of the same layer 2 network and broadcast
domain across all interfaces where it appears, based on the VLAN number.  

Is this also true on a router?  That is, if I have the following 
configuration, what happens?  Do VLAN 2 on switches connected to 
both interfaces see each other?  

interface FastEthernet0/0.2
 description VLAN 2 to switch A
 encapsulation isl 2
 ip address 192.168.1.254 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 no ip directed-broadcast

interface FastEthernet0/1.2
 description VLAN 2 to switch B
 encapsulation isl 2
 ip address 192.168.2.254 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 no ip directed-broadcast

Two separate subinterfaces of two separate physical interfaces connected 
to two different LANs, but with the same ISL encapsulation "color".  Are 
they bridged?  Would the IP address ranges both appear on both LANs?  

Can't find this in CCO anywhere.

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RE: SmartCertify CBT software for study

2000-10-10 Thread Vijay Ramcharan
Title: SmartCertify CBT software for study



I 
would strongly advise you to take the salesperson's words with few grains of 
salt.  I've purchased their old MCSE 4.0 cbt ($1000) with all the 
bells and whistles of hands on exercises.  I ended up setting the CBT aside 
and buying another for $150 from New Riders that helped me through the MS 
exams.  There is just not enough detail on the material that it's supposed 
to teach you.  I also bought the ACRC CBT from them last year (again with 
all the bells and whistles) and was sorely disappointed and even more upset that 
I had wasted another grand.  I thought that there would have been 
improvements in the CBT material.  Anyway, I've learned my lesson.  I 
use books only now.
Way 
too much clicking (I guess that's what they call it interactive) and very 
disappointing hands on (I shudder to put that term on their 
exercises)
Vijay Ramcharan CCNP, CCDP, MCSE 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 
  1:03 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: SmartCertify 
  CBT software for study
  Does anyone out there have experience/opinions on 
  SmartCertify's (www.smartcertify.com) CBT offerings? I'm looking at possibly 
  purchasing their Cisco IMCR package, which, I'm told, leads one through all 
  sorts of theory about routing/switching (to fill in any gaps your current 
  education left), information about the routers themselves (how the backplane 
  operates, etc.), and includes a section that simulates IOS configuration of 
  everything from setting the hostname to configuring BGP and IOS upgrades. Not 
  only that, but the salesman told me they guarantee that you'll be ready for 
  and PASS your CCIE lab (not written - he was specific) once you can work your 
  way through the whole CBT.
  I was a bit skeptical, but he was insistent, so I'm interested 
  in checking it out. But for such a magical product I was expecting the price 
  to be on the order of $5 - $10K. Turns out it's only $1499. A guarantee like 
  that for the price of a router is just too good to ignore, so I wanted to get 
  some feedback from anyone that knows anything about these.
  Thanks! 
  - Don 


CBT recommendation for CCNP ?

2000-10-10 Thread Inamul H

Hello All:

I am looking for good CBT or video traning for
CCNP. Would any one recommend good company but not very
expensive like knowledge net which cost u $ 1600
US per course ?
Thank u in advance.

Inamul
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RE:

2000-10-10 Thread Chris Lemagie

Actually Rik is correct, you are not able to address two interfaces within
the same Cisco router chassis on the same IP subnet unless you use HSRP.

Chris Lemagie
Systems Engineer
Cisco Systems
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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On Behalf Of
Lowell Sharrah
Sent:   Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re:

what are you guys talking about?  of course you can have two or more routers
sharing the same ip subnet.  ever here of a backbone?

>>> "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/10/00 03:52PM >>>
can we see the config on that one
i cant get it to work
Duck
  Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
8rv8ve$vp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8rv8ve$vp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Just one minor correction Of course you can have multiple router ports
on a single subnet!!
  Why couldn't you?!?!?  I just happen to have that implemented here... it's
called hhhmmm..
  a backbone!!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
No, 2 router ports cannot be on the same subnet.  You can, however,
setup HSRP (Hot-Standby Router Protocol), which will give you the redundancy
you need.  This requires 2 routers but gives you complete router redundancy
and not just port/link redundancy.  Search for HSRP on www.cisco.com.

Rik

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Subject: stupid questions



Hi,

Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of routers on
same
network & have redundancy between them?

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RE: Frame Relay problem

2000-10-10 Thread Winchester, Derek S.

Well it's not mentioned if this is a current connection or a new install. If
this is a current connections and looking at the counters it looks like you
cleared it you might not want to change the lmi type. If this is a new
connection then I would try the auto detect feature or find out the correct
lmi

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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:06 PM
To: Stull, Cory; 'Hans Stout'
Cc: 'ciscostudygroup'
Subject: RE: Frame Relay problem


I'm not seeing any LMI responses from the frame-relay switch in the
interface statistics.

You will most likely have to change your LMI type from CISCO (default) to
ANSI.

Chris Lemagie
Systems Engineer
Cisco Systems
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Sent:   Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:13 AM
To: 'Hans Stout'
Cc: 'ciscostudygroup'
Subject:RE: Frame Relay problem

timing or incorrect lmi type..  If its a newer ios with autosensing lmi then
it is probably a timing or circuit issue...  Is it a T1 and did you set your
timeslots?

-Original Message-
From: Hans Stout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frame Relay problem


Hi colleagues,

I have a problem with my frame relay connection; the serial interface is
up/down, and when I debug the serial interface, I can see that the interface

is constantly trying to restart:23w5d:

Serial5/0: attempting to restart:
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 4, yourseen 0, DTE down
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 5, yourseen 0, DTE down

What could be the reason for this ? I'll add the output for the sh int:


Serial5/0 is up, line protocol is down
  Hardware is M4T
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  240, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 0
  Last input 05:47:09, output 00:00:02, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:54
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 354 packets output, 4649 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 80 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 80 carrier transitions DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=u

Thanks for your help in advance.

Georg

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Re: stupid questions

2000-10-10 Thread Ed

There is one way to do this.  You can create a Bridge Group Virtual
Interface (BVI) .  Please see the following URL to get you started:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/inte
r_c/icdlanin.htm

You can search cisco's website for more details.
It is not perfect by any means but it might get done what you are after.
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> Hi,
>
> I am sorry..the question went wrong...I want to connect the two ethernet
> ports of one router on same network  & have redundancy between them
>
> regards
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Traister, Blake (SBCI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:19 AM
> To: 'Kedar Deshpande'
> Subject: RE: stupid questions
>
>
> Im a little confused with the exact question.  I have gone back through
the
> thread to avoid the rude and sarcastic posts...
>
> Basically, the answer is yes.  HSRP will let you do this.  I am assuming
> that each router is the front part of a path to the same destination...we
do
> a combination of hsrp and eigrp to assure redundancy and load
balancing
>
> I hope this answers your question
> Blake
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kedar Deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 4:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: stupid questions
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of routers on same
> network & have redundancy between them?
>
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Re: Catalyst 6509 supervisor engine with MSFC

2000-10-10 Thread Paul Werner

> I got a Catalyst switch with supervisor engine 1A with MSFC. 
Without  configration, notice there is route shown below. Why 
is that so? What do
> 
> EOBC0/6 meant?
> 
> C127.0.0.0/8 is directly connected, EOBC0/6

I can't say with 100% certainty, since I don't have a 6509 
handy :-), but I have a few ideas.  The CAT5k uses a similar 
syntax to describe the bus connection going to the RSFC. In 
this particular case, it represents an Ethernet on board 
controller located at bus number 0, device number 6.  This can 
be verified with the "show eobc" command after 12.07 code, or 
possibly using the "show interface" command on your RSFC for 
CAT5ks.  I believe that the virtual interface for the CAT5ks is 
an IBC0 (interface bus controller 0).

This is not documented very well in the product DOCs.  Also, if 
you ever get a status on other than up/up, you may have a 
problem where the RSFC/MSFC meets the Switching Engine.  I had 
an RSFC go bad and it gave an up/down indication on the "show 
interfaces" command on the RSFC.

HTH,

Paul Werner

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Re:

2000-10-10 Thread vr4drvr .

read more carefully--they are referring to multiple router ports from the 
same router.  lets save the sarcasm...


>From: "Lowell Sharrah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Lowell Sharrah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re:
>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:26:22 -0400
>
>what are you guys talking about?  of course you can have two or more 
>routers sharing the same ip subnet.  ever here of a backbone?
>
> >>> "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/10/00 03:52PM >>>
>can we see the config on that one
>i cant get it to work
>Duck
>   Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>8rv8ve$vp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8rv8ve$vp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>   Just one minor correction Of course you can have multiple router 
>ports on a single subnet!!
>   Why couldn't you?!?!?  I just happen to have that implemented here... 
>it's called hhhmmm..
>   a backbone!!
> ""Guyler, Rik [EESUS]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> No, 2 router ports cannot be on the same subnet.  You can, however, 
>setup HSRP (Hot-Standby Router Protocol), which will give you the 
>redundancy you need.  This requires 2 routers but gives you complete router 
>redundancy and not just port/link redundancy.  Search for HSRP on 
>www.cisco.com.
>
> Rik
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kedar Deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: stupid questions
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of routers on 
>same
> network & have redundancy between them?
>
> regards,
>
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Question

2000-10-10 Thread Arun Upadhyay

Can anybody please help in solving this problem?

A router is connected to a T1 line which has the
maximum speed of 1.544mbps. The router begins to
forward 64bkps packet at 5000 packets per second,
there are 500 buffers available. Approximately how
long before the link is complelety saturated, the
buffers are full and the router begins to discard.


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RE: Frame Relay problem

2000-10-10 Thread Guyler, Rik [EESUS]
Title: RE: Frame Relay problem





Hmm...well, you don't give us a config or show version so we don't know for sure what the LMI settings are or what the IOS version is.  However, by the show interface you provided, it looks as if LMI is to blame.

Newer IOS autosenses the LMI type, but still, I don't trust it.  If you have an older IOS or you have a newer IOS that is "autosensing", I would hard code the LMI type.  Also, since IOS sets the LMI type to Cisco by default, when/if you hard code it, you might try setting to use ANSI LMI.

Good luck!


Rik Guyler


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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frame Relay problem



Hi colleagues,


I have a problem with my frame relay connection; the serial interface is 
up/down, and when I debug the serial interface, I can see that the interface 
is constantly trying to restart:23w5d:


Serial5/0: attempting to restart:
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 4, yourseen 0, DTE down
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 5, yourseen 0, DTE down


What could be the reason for this ? I'll add the output for the sh int:



Serial5/0 is up, line protocol is down
  Hardware is M4T
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  240, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 0
  Last input 05:47:09, output 00:00:02, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:54
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 354 packets output, 4649 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 80 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 80 carrier transitions DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=u


Thanks for your help in advance.


Georg


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RE: 2501 Question, remote access

2000-10-10 Thread Ejay Hire

Sure you can do this.  Buuy a Us robotics 56k external modem, and one of the 
console cable adapters that says "modem" on it.  Set the Dip switches on the 
modem to Auto-answer and use DTR for signaling.  Connect it to the Aux port 
and enable logins on AUX.

Good Luck!

(Cisco Search Keywords: Dial Backup AUX MODEM)


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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:33:38 -0600

I currently have access via a frame link but this router is 2000 miles away 
and if that link goes down I want to be able to dial into the router to 
access it for configuration purposes.

Thanks

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For network access, or configuration?
The answer is yes to both questions.

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Subject: 2501 Question, remote access
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:06:24 -0600

This may sound dumb, but is there a way for me to setup remote access to a
2501.  In other words I need to set up an analog line and then dial into the
router.  This router has one Ethernet and two serial ports.  My thought is I
cant do it but maybe there is a way.

Thanks,
ML


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SmartCertify CBT software for study

2000-10-10 Thread Taylor, Don
Title: SmartCertify CBT software for study





Does anyone out there have experience/opinions on SmartCertify's (www.smartcertify.com) CBT offerings? I'm looking at possibly purchasing their Cisco IMCR package, which, I'm told, leads one through all sorts of theory about routing/switching (to fill in any gaps your current education left), information about the routers themselves (how the backplane operates, etc.), and includes a section that simulates IOS configuration of everything from setting the hostname to configuring BGP and IOS upgrades. Not only that, but the salesman told me they guarantee that you'll be ready for and PASS your CCIE lab (not written - he was specific) once you can work your way through the whole CBT.

I was a bit skeptical, but he was insistent, so I'm interested in checking it out. But for such a magical product I was expecting the price to be on the order of $5 - $10K. Turns out it's only $1499. A guarantee like that for the price of a router is just too good to ignore, so I wanted to get some feedback from anyone that knows anything about these.

Thanks!


- Don





Re:

2000-10-10 Thread Lowell Sharrah

what are you guys talking about?  of course you can have two or more routers sharing 
the same ip subnet.  ever here of a backbone?

>>> "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/10/00 03:52PM >>>
can we see the config on that one 
i cant get it to work
Duck
  Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8rv8ve$vp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8rv8ve$vp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Just one minor correction Of course you can have multiple router ports on a 
single subnet!!
  Why couldn't you?!?!?  I just happen to have that implemented here... it's 
called hhhmmm..
  a backbone!!
""Guyler, Rik [EESUS]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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No, 2 router ports cannot be on the same subnet.  You can, however, setup HSRP 
(Hot-Standby Router Protocol), which will give you the redundancy you need.  This 
requires 2 routers but gives you complete router redundancy and not just port/link 
redundancy.  Search for HSRP on www.cisco.com.

Rik 

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Hi, 

Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of routers on same 
network & have redundancy between them? 

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CCIE written

2000-10-10 Thread Winchester, Derek S.

After a brief layoff I am going to attempt to make a jump to the main Goal
of CCIE. Could someone who has taken the written provide me with a checklist
of sorts to ease my study. Most of my studying will be from the white
papers, but I am open to book suggestions. I am in the mist of preparing for
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RE: Frame Relay problem

2000-10-10 Thread Winchester, Derek S.

Looks like you are not receiving any LMI. The problem is either with your CO
or your CSU. Check you physical connections and then call the CO to see if
they can tell you if they are having any problems

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-Original Message-
From: Hans Stout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frame Relay problem


Hi colleagues,

I have a problem with my frame relay connection; the serial interface is 
up/down, and when I debug the serial interface, I can see that the interface

is constantly trying to restart:23w5d:

Serial5/0: attempting to restart:
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 4, yourseen 0, DTE down
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 5, yourseen 0, DTE down

What could be the reason for this ? I'll add the output for the sh int:


Serial5/0 is up, line protocol is down
  Hardware is M4T
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  240, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 0
  Last input 05:47:09, output 00:00:02, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:54
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 354 packets output, 4649 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 80 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 80 carrier transitions DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=u

Thanks for your help in advance.

Georg

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RE: Frame Relay problem

2000-10-10 Thread Chris Lemagie

I'm not seeing any LMI responses from the frame-relay switch in the
interface statistics.

You will most likely have to change your LMI type from CISCO (default) to
ANSI.

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Cc: 'ciscostudygroup'
Subject:RE: Frame Relay problem

timing or incorrect lmi type..  If its a newer ios with autosensing lmi then
it is probably a timing or circuit issue...  Is it a T1 and did you set your
timeslots?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frame Relay problem


Hi colleagues,

I have a problem with my frame relay connection; the serial interface is
up/down, and when I debug the serial interface, I can see that the interface

is constantly trying to restart:23w5d:

Serial5/0: attempting to restart:
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 4, yourseen 0, DTE down
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 5, yourseen 0, DTE down

What could be the reason for this ? I'll add the output for the sh int:


Serial5/0 is up, line protocol is down
  Hardware is M4T
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  240, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 0
  Last input 05:47:09, output 00:00:02, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:54
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 354 packets output, 4649 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 80 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 80 carrier transitions DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=u

Thanks for your help in advance.

Georg

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Re: ATM... Why not STM? (just for fun)

2000-10-10 Thread Lauren Child



Michael Bray wrote:
> 
> So to clarify, would you agree with the statement that the PHY layer is
> synchronous, but the ATM layer is Asynchronous?
> 

hmmm nope - the ATM layer is where the blank cells are put in, so
actually its still synchronous, its just that the data coming into it
can be asynchronous.

Actually you can run (synchronous) ATM over an Asynchronous link, as
long as nothing else is using it, its deterministic, and the the stats
of the link are within the required stats for the QoS, hence you can
actually transmit ATM over point to point ethernet (if you *really*
wanted to) :)

Im not sure what happenned to ATM ethernet though, I havent heard
anything on it for ages - there was a CIF forum at one stage (Cells In
Frames).

The synchronisation for ATM is done at the ATM layer, and because of
that, theres always something to send, so you can make full use of a
synchronous physical layer as well, hence the high speed links.

TTFN
Lauren

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Re: FW: Port list

2000-10-10 Thread Eric Mwambaji



If you analyze traffic during a download you will see
tons of ICMP replies. Restrict access to ip address
for www.napster.com and server.napster.com. Napster
also requires unrestricted sock 4 and 5 to work. I
hope you can use this in some way.

Eric
MCSE,CCNA


--- "Brian W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Because napster is a peer to peer and not server
> based network, my guess
> would be that ip address blocking would do you no
> good.
> 
>   Brian
> 
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Barnhill, Don wrote:
> 
> > Javier,
> > 
> > Also, You may be able to block Napster by denying
> it by ip address or
> > addresses, depending on how many they have.  As
> far as MP3's go, there are
> > so many sites on the net that it will probably be
> impossible to block them
> > all.
> > 
> > Don Barnhill
> > MCSE,ASE,CCNP,CCDA
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Barnhill, Don 
> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 4:04 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Port list
> > 
> > 
> > Javier,
> > 
> > I dont know the exact port #'s that they use, but
> they easiest way (and
> > probably best way) to control access is to deny
> everything except the ports
> > that you want to use.  Such as 80 (http), 443
> (SHTTP), 53 (udp dns), 21 and
> > 20 (ftp).
> > 
> > Also, if I am correct, Napter runs over port 80
> (http) and you can't block
> > it at the router without cutting of web access.
> > 
> > Don Barnhill
> > MCSE,ASE,CCNP,CCDA
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
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> > Subject: Port list
> > 
> > 
> > Hi
> > 
> > I need to deny access to ICQ and NAPSTER.
> > 
> > Which ports must I close in my PIX Fw ?
> > 
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RE: stupid questions

2000-10-10 Thread Kedar Deshpande

Hi,

I am sorry..the question went wrong...I want to connect the two ethernet
ports of one router on same network  & have redundancy between them

regards

-Original Message-
From: Traister, Blake (SBCI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:19 AM
To: 'Kedar Deshpande'
Subject: RE: stupid questions


Im a little confused with the exact question.  I have gone back through the
thread to avoid the rude and sarcastic posts...

Basically, the answer is yes.  HSRP will let you do this.  I am assuming
that each router is the front part of a path to the same destination...we do
a combination of hsrp and eigrp to assure redundancy and load balancing

I hope this answers your question
Blake

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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 4:58 PM
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Hi,

Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of routers on same
network & have redundancy between them?

regards,


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Re: 2501 Question, remote access

2000-10-10 Thread Brian W.

The aux port is typically used for this..

Brian

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Mark wrote:

> This may sound dumb, but is there a way for me to setup remote access to a
> 2501.  In other words I need to set up an analog line and then dial into the
> router.  This router has one Ethernet and two serial ports.  My thought is I
> cant do it but maybe there is a way.
> 
> Thanks,
> ML
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RE: Frame Relay problem

2000-10-10 Thread Stull, Cory

timing or incorrect lmi type..  If its a newer ios with autosensing lmi then
it is probably a timing or circuit issue...  Is it a T1 and did you set your
timeslots?

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frame Relay problem


Hi colleagues,

I have a problem with my frame relay connection; the serial interface is 
up/down, and when I debug the serial interface, I can see that the interface

is constantly trying to restart:23w5d:

Serial5/0: attempting to restart:
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 4, yourseen 0, DTE down
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 5, yourseen 0, DTE down

What could be the reason for this ? I'll add the output for the sh int:


Serial5/0 is up, line protocol is down
  Hardware is M4T
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  240, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 0
  Last input 05:47:09, output 00:00:02, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:54
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 354 packets output, 4649 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 80 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 80 carrier transitions DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=u

Thanks for your help in advance.

Georg

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RE:

2000-10-10 Thread Dave Hennen

This is not a direct answer to your question, but I recently upgraded a
couple of 2500s from 11.1 to 12.0 and in the process I was asked if I wanted
to erase the flash.  I think the procedure will ask this if you try to copy
tftp flash an image that will not fit into the free space on the flash.
Maybe you are trying to do something similar...

daveh

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How do you erase the flash on 2505 router.  I have used the "del
flash:" and erase flash:xxx" commands, but I keep getting the
following error 

%Error deleting flash:/igs-d-l.103-17.bin (Device is read-only).

The files are rw.

Thanks,

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No Subject

2000-10-10 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr




can we see the config on that one 
i cant get it to work
Duck

  Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
  message 8rv8ve$vp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8rv8ve$vp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Just one minor correction Of course you can 
  have multiple router ports on a single subnet!!
  Why couldn't you?!?!?  I just happen to have 
  that implemented here... it's called hhhmmm..
  a backbone!!
  
""Guyler, Rik [EESUS]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
No, 2 router ports cannot be on the same subnet.  You 
can, however, setup HSRP (Hot-Standby Router Protocol), which will give you 
the redundancy you need.  This requires 2 routers but gives you 
complete router redundancy and not just port/link redundancy.  Search 
for HSRP on www.cisco.com.
Rik 
-Original Message- From: 
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: stupid 
questions 
Hi, 
Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of 
routers on same network & have redundancy 
between them? 
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Re: stupid questions

2000-10-10 Thread Donald B Johnson Jr

no
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Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: stupid questions


> This is hsrp you are describing..
>
> Brian
>
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Kedar Deshpande wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of routers on
same
> > network & have redundancy between them?
> >
> > regards,
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Re: 2501 Question, remote access

2000-10-10 Thread Brian

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Mark wrote:

> This may sound dumb, but is there a way for me to setup remote access to a
> 2501.  In other words I need to set up an analog line and then dial into the
> router.  This router has one Ethernet and two serial ports.  My thought is I
> cant do it but maybe there is a way.

yes you can use the Aux port on the 2501 to gain remote access.

Brian


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RE: Password encryption decoder

2000-10-10 Thread Barnhill, Don

William,

Try www.boson.com  They have a free set of utilties that includes a tftp
server, syslog server, and password decoder.

Don Barnhill
MCSE,ASE,CCNP,CCDA

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Where can I find the Password encryption decoder for Cisco encrypted
passwords?

Thanks

Wm. Spencer Plantier
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RE:

2000-10-10 Thread Stull, Cory

You will have to ctrl-c when you boot up and boot into monitor mode..  You
can't delete the image when you booted off of it..  In other words you can't
have the operating system delete itself...

Cory

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How do you erase the flash on 2505 router.  I have used the "del
flash:" and erase flash:xxx" commands, but I keep getting the
following error 

%Error deleting flash:/igs-d-l.103-17.bin (Device is read-only).

The files are rw.

Thanks,

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Re: 2501 Question, remote access

2000-10-10 Thread Ejay Hire

For network access, or configuration?
The answer is yes to both questions.

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Subject: 2501 Question, remote access
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:06:24 -0600

This may sound dumb, but is there a way for me to setup remote access to a
2501.  In other words I need to set up an analog line and then dial into the
router.  This router has one Ethernet and two serial ports.  My thought is I
cant do it but maybe there is a way.

Thanks,
ML


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Frame Relay problem

2000-10-10 Thread Hans Stout

Hi colleagues,

I have a problem with my frame relay connection; the serial interface is 
up/down, and when I debug the serial interface, I can see that the interface 
is constantly trying to restart:23w5d:

Serial5/0: attempting to restart:
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 4, yourseen 0, DTE down
--More--
23w5d: Serial5/0(out): StEnq, myseq 5, yourseen 0, DTE down

What could be the reason for this ? I'll add the output for the sh int:


Serial5/0 is up, line protocol is down
  Hardware is M4T
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 16, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  240, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 0
  Last input 05:47:09, output 00:00:02, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:54
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 354 packets output, 4649 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 80 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 80 carrier transitions DCD=up  DSR=up  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=u

Thanks for your help in advance.

Georg

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RE: Erasing Flash

2000-10-10 Thread Miller, Nathan (AZ15)

The router is protecting itself by not allowing you to erase the IOS that it
it currently running.  Change your config register to 0x2101 and reboot.
You will then be in boot mode (running the mini ios from the boot ROM) and
will be able to erase the flash.
Nathan  

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How do you erase the flash on 2505 router.  I have used the "del
flash:" and erase flash:xxx" commands, but I keep getting the
following error 

%Error deleting flash:/igs-d-l.103-17.bin (Device is read-only).

The files are rw.

Thanks,

Stan Rossetti


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Re:stupid questions

2000-10-10 Thread Ed Williams

My apologies... I didn't see the same router clause...
You are correct.


>From: "Chris Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re:stupid questions
>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:42:00 -0400
>
>A single router cannot have 2 ports on the same subnet and active, at least 
>from my experience. If you try to put 2 ports on the same router on the 
>same subnet the router gives an error to the effect that the IP address 
>overlaps with the address on such and such.
>
>If you have accomplished this I would like to know how. Why would you have 
>2 ports on the same router connected to the same subnet anyway??
>   "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>8rv8ve$vp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8rv8ve$vp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>   Just one minor correction Of course you can have multiple router 
>ports on a single subnet!!
>   Why couldn't you?!?!?  I just happen to have that implemented here... 
>it's called hhhmmm..
>   a backbone!!
> ""Guyler, Rik [EESUS]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> No, 2 router ports cannot be on the same subnet.  You can, however, 
>setup HSRP (Hot-Standby Router Protocol), which will give you the 
>redundancy you need.  This requires 2 routers but gives you complete router 
>redundancy and not just port/link redundancy.  Search for HSRP on 
>www.cisco.com.
>
> Rik
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: stupid questions
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of routers on 
>same
> network & have redundancy between them?
>
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Re: MCRI! MCRI! MCRI!

2000-10-10 Thread eric.rogers

YES, there is the actual course book from Cisco. Picked one up from Ebay back in July. 
Perhaps the CEMS class manual now covers it???

Eric


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>Are there any books geared for Managing Cisco Routed Internetworks
>(MCRI 640-443)?? I've browsed Cisco's website along with Amazon.com
>and can't seem to find a book geared for this test. Any help is
>greatly appreciated!! Thanks!
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RE:

2000-10-10 Thread Craig Johnson

2500's are weird like that.  Boot into rom mode (0x2101 i think) and you can
delete them.  Or if you do a copy tftp flash to upgrade, it'll reboot
automatically for you and will delete the flash for you then copy the new
one over.  Hope that helps.

Craig Johnson, CCNP, CCDP

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How do you erase the flash on 2505 router.  I have used the "del
flash:" and erase flash:xxx" commands, but I keep getting the
following error

%Error deleting flash:/igs-d-l.103-17.bin (Device is read-only).

The files are rw.

Thanks,

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Password encryption decoder

2000-10-10 Thread Plantier, William

Where can I find the Password encryption decoder for Cisco encrypted
passwords?

Thanks

Wm. Spencer Plantier
LAN Engineer
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RE: CISCO SWITCH

2000-10-10 Thread Brian W.

Alteon also makes a product that I believe does this type of failover.

Brian


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RE: stupid questions

2000-10-10 Thread Guyler, Rik [EESUS]
Title: RE: stupid questions



Yes, I 
originally read the question this way (ports from the same router), although I 
believe the first language of the original poster is not English, so it's hard 
to say exactly what he/she was asking.
 
Frank, 
I'm not offended or anything by your response, so don't take this the wrong way, 
but please don't be so sarcastic with your replies.  I'm spending time 
during my day as you are to help where needed and learn as I 
can.
 
BTW - 
I think I've heard of this backbone thingy a time or two!  
:-}
 
Rik, 
CCNP

  -Original Message-From: McCallum, Robert 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 
  10, 2000 11:15 AMTo: 'Frank'; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: stupid 
  questions
  Yes 
  Frank you are right here.  BUT the original question was can you have 2 
  Ethernet ports on the SAME router in the SAME subnet.  Which from this 
  question Rik is perfectly correct.
  
-Original Message-From: Frank 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 10 October 2000 
15:24To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: stupid 
questions
Just one minor correction Of course you can 
have multiple router ports on a single subnet!!
Why couldn't you?!?!?  I just happen to 
have that implemented here... it's called hhhmmm..
a backbone!!

  ""Guyler, Rik [EESUS]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
  message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  No, 2 router ports cannot be on the same subnet.  You 
  can, however, setup HSRP (Hot-Standby Router Protocol), which will give 
  you the redundancy you need.  This requires 2 routers but gives you 
  complete router redundancy and not just port/link redundancy.  Search 
  for HSRP on www.cisco.com.
  Rik 
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  Kedar Deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: stupid 
  questions 
  Hi, 
  Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of 
  routers on same network & have redundancy 
  between them? 
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Re: Remote Network Connectivity

2000-10-10 Thread Brian W.

Is each site connected to the other 2, so it is a full mesh?  In this
case, it should flow automatically.

Brian

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Hitesh Pathak (CSD-BBYRO-RTSG) wrote:

> Friends,
> 
> Need ur help...
> 
> I hv my 3 sites connected with each other via leased lines. Now let's say my
> link between r1 & r3 goes down & I want my traffic from r3 to reach to r1
> thru r2. My network is running EIGRP. I am not able to ping to my router r1
> from r3 (via r2) when my link between r1 & r3 goes down. Do I need to define
> any ip route command . how can I resolve this issue. What additional
> commands do I need to configuredo I need to set some proirity for link .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> r1-r2
> 
> 
>   r3
> 
> 
> thanx
> HP
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Re: your mail

2000-10-10 Thread Brian W.

My company's experience is that the power specs are grossly
overrated.  For a 12008 with dual dc supplies, we us a 25 amp circuit with
a 20 amp breaker for each power supply.  Regarding dc powered 7206s, we
have done 6 on a pair of 20 amp circuits, and 8 on 30.

Brian

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Could anyone out there help me with the following issues? I am trying to
> find out the power rfequirements for our systems.
> 
> 1 - How much (48 Volts) DC current is needed for each of fully loaded
> GSR12016 router, 6509 Switch and 7200 router? (6509 and 7200 with redundent
> power supply   modules) (On cisco site they say 60 A max. for GSR but on
> another site it lists 50 A max. for each power entry module. Now do all
> power modules cosume the rated power all the time or some of them use while
> others do not?)
> 
> 2 - Can we give the power to active and redundent power modules from  same
> DC power source?
> 
> 3 - Do active and redundent power modules use the specified power
> simultaneously? i.e. Does a fully loaded GSR12016 dissipate 200A power (50
> A per power entry module)? or it uses 100 A power at any time. (active
> power modules consume power while redundent modules dont consume).
> 
> In our environment we have one 480 A 48 V DC power source (4 x 120 A
> modules). That means that if one of the source DC supply modules fail we
> still have 360 A of power available. Do you think we are safe in connecting
> 3 x 7200 routers, 1 x 6509 switch and 1 x GSR12016 router to this single DC
> current source? All of the 7200 and 6509 have redundent power modules and
> we plan to connect all modules to this same source. Please suugest us of
> the best practice for the power connections if you think what we plan is
> not correct. Is it a good practice to rate the DC lines at 50 A maximum for
> each DC power entry module for GSR12016 even if the GSR is not fully
> loaded?
> 
> thanks,
> sohail
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2501 Question, remote access

2000-10-10 Thread Mark

This may sound dumb, but is there a way for me to setup remote access to a
2501.  In other words I need to set up an analog line and then dial into the
router.  This router has one Ethernet and two serial ports.  My thought is I
cant do it but maybe there is a way.

Thanks,
ML


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RE: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Jin Tam

I am originating this from my AS. Yes, it is register with ARIN. I am
advertising other providers address to UUNet and it is not stripped.
 -Original Message-
From:   Dave Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Verizon BGP

I've never heard of this practice either. An ISP will generally advertise
his own address space or PI space.
Never that belonging to another provider. Which AS are you supposed to use
to originate the addresses from?
Do you use a private AS number and strip it off upstream?

Dave Humphrey

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Subject: Re: Verizon BGP


Elver, you obviuosly do not work at UUNET or you are not aware of your
company's BGP policies. I've set up multihoming at customer sites before
with UUNET and other ISP's
In my opinion if an ISP will not allow you to advertise another ISP's
address space for the purpose of multi-homing then use another ISP


[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brian,
>
> At UUNet we DO NOT advertise other ISPs IPs.  We will advertise the
> customer's IPs if they own them (acquired from Arin, as mentioned by
Jason).
> By the way, Jason's explanation looks accurate.
>
> Elver
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:15 AM
> To: Jason T. Carnevale
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Verizon BGP
>
>
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jason T. Carnevale wrote:
>
> > The problem is not that Verizon can not advertise another providers IP
> > space it is that Venison by policy DOES NOT route other provider's IP
> > space. What is trying to be accomplished here is that Jin Tam is
> > trying to dual home his site, which is normal. Verizon requires that a
> > customer get their own IP space from Arin to do this. Verizon is well
> > aware of the longest match rule, but to route one ISPs address space
> > to multiple ISPs, (even if it is a more specific route) is asking for
> > global routing problems, which is why Verizon and other providers do
> > not allow this. You will also find that large ISPs do not except BGP
>
> not true, just about any major backbone provider will do this for you.
>
> > routes more specific than /21. I would refer to Internet Routing
>
> some large ISP's yes.  Most large NSP's no.  Who am I talking
> about?  Well, lets say you have a /24 from a provider, and want it
> announced from your new provider.who will do this for you?  At
> least:  UUnet, Qwest, Global Crossing, ATT, Sprint, Cable and
> Wireless.
>
> A large ISP shouldn't care, if the case is legit.I mean, if a
> customer comes to you, and needs his /24 dual homed for redundancy, help
> him out.  If you don't someone else will.  Now I am not saying lets all
> get together and dump on the global table, but its not fair that companies
> like UUnet for example, blatently leak MASSIVE routes into the global
> table, routes that don't need to be there at all, routes that accomplish
> nothing (specifics of a larger UUnet aggregate to a single homed UUnet
> customer).  I mean, you have to make a buck too.  If UUnet cleaned up its
> routes alone, it would reduce the GLOBAL table by about 1/2%.  A single
> companyreducing the memory consumption of every global router in
> the world, by doing nothing more than cleaning up its routes..that
> would equate to actual dollars saved.
>
> Sorry for the rant.  Bottom line, if an NSP won't announce your /24, go
> somewhere else that will.there are plenty of options...and my
> god, most of them are better options than verizon.
>
>
> > Architectures for more information on setting up a dual homed BGP
> > session with your ISP. I also must state that people that respond to
> > these types of posts should not assume all the facts are presented by
> > the poster and with that in mind should not assume that the parties
> > involved are high school idiots. Just my 2 cents.
>
> well.I just don't think the point is valid.  If Verizon announces
> the more specific route.what has happened?  One entry has been
> added to the table.  If the user gets there own space, and verizon
> announces, what has happened?  One entry has been added to the
> table...Now I know, that more than likely a user dual homing is going
> to have a half dozen or more specifics, which could be replaced by a
> single ARIN allocation.  But does verizon take that into consideration?  I
> mean, its possible your other provider did actually give you a /21 for
> example.and that your space is contigious, and that by going to
> ARIN you save the world nothing.
>
> Also, what do you mean exactly that to route ones ISP space to another ISP
> can cause global routing problems?  I mean, so long as its do

No Subject

2000-10-10 Thread Rossetti, Stan

How do you erase the flash on 2505 router.  I have used the "del
flash:" and erase flash:xxx" commands, but I keep getting the
following error 

%Error deleting flash:/igs-d-l.103-17.bin (Device is read-only).

The files are rw.

Thanks,

Stan Rossetti


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Re: Token Ring Book

2000-10-10 Thread Igor

I attempted to read 'Understanding Data
Communications'
by Gilbert. 
That book is a nightmarish mish-mash of jumbled
information. 
It is just like the picture of the author
on the back flap, completely out of focus.

Regards,

Igor

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> would try www.half.com and see
> if it is listed there.
> 
> Would running around in a circle suffice for that
> price ;-).
> 
> --
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> Technical Support Engineer
> Juniper Networks
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> possible) on token ring
> : (FDDI too wouldn't hurt)?
> :
> : I found a couple books on amazon. Token-Ring
> Networks by Gilbert Held (only
> : $185 for a 309 page book) sticks out. At more than
> $.50 per page, I expect
> : it to open up, dance a jig, and read itself to me.
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Re: cisco IOS CLI emulation for bay

2000-10-10 Thread J K

Mike what are you trying to do on a bay ? Maybe i can help you . You said 
you will pay $$$ for a program that translates cisco to bay . I have a 
better idea. you tell me what you want to do with the Nortel/Bay router and 
i will tell you how to do it for 175 an hour ..Or you can buy my cisco Ios 
to Bay crapos for 1000.00 even . What a deal . quick everyone jump this 
while supplies last ..

2cents ok kill me


>From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: cisco IOS CLI emulation for bay
>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:00:33 -0400
>
>>I have heard that there is an emulation software package that
>>emulates a cisco IOS CLI on a bay router. If this is true where can
>>I get it. I am in desperate need, and will pay $$$ for it.
>>
>>
>>Mike C.
>>CCNA
>
>
>Afraid not.  There are similarities between CLI and BCC, but they are
>quite different under the hood.  Any of the operator interfaces to
>Bay RS map to a strict MIB-based model internally, while Cisco does
>not.
>
>A slight soapbox here -- always remember to be clear, when speaking
>of "CLI," if you mean the commands executed from user or privileged
>mode, or the configuration language.  They really aren't the same
>thing.
>
>
>
>--
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>***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not
>directly to me***
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Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

There may be some truth in both sides.

As part of a multihoming strategy, it is perfectly reasonable for ISP 
1 to advertise space associated with ISP2, when the space being 
advertised is a subset of the ISP 2's allocation, and  ISP 1 learns 
about the prefix(es) from a mutual customer.

It is also perfectly reasonable that ISP 1 would not accept the 
advertisement, or possibly accept it but not export it, unless there 
is some coordination between ISP 1 and ISP 2 that ISP 2 accepts the 
idea of part of its space being advertised.  This might be 
coordinated by personal contact of routing engineers in both ISPs 
(and the customer if the customer understands routing at this level), 
or by having all parties register consistent routing policies in the 
routing registry system.

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Passed CID

2000-10-10 Thread Nanbo, Kuniaki

Hello.

I passed CID today on my first attempt.
The score was 77%.

I didn't feel it was so vague, because I prepared enough, I think.

I prepared with Cisco Internetnetwok Design from CiscoPress,
and Boson CID Practice test #1,#2.

Boson CID #1 was very useful , but #2 was too easy and 
simple to prepare.
Questions in #1 require pretty deep knowledge and 
I could make my knowleade deep by studying and answering
to the questions.

Next, I will take CCIE written exam.


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Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread ccie10

You need to have a public ASN before you can do this. Arin is very strict
when giving out IP addresses and granting an organization their own block of
IP's is extremely difficult to justify. Also they will not issue less than a
/20. I don't know to many companies that would qualify for even a fraction
of this space. If you have a public ASN then there is no reason that your
ISP should not advertise out your other blocks of addresses. The only thing
wrong with this scenario is that the global routing table will grow
exponentially with all those more specific /24's being advertised in
addition to aggregates

- Original Message -
From: "Dave Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: Verizon BGP


> I've never heard of this practice either. An ISP will generally advertise
his own address space or PI space.
> Never that belonging to another provider. Which AS are you supposed to use
to originate the addresses from?
> Do you use a private AS number and strip it off upstream?
>
> Dave Humphrey
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 10 October 2000 15:00
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Verizon BGP
>
>
> Elver, you obviuosly do not work at UUNET or you are not aware of your
> company's BGP policies. I've set up multihoming at customer sites before
> with UUNET and other ISP's
> In my opinion if an ISP will not allow you to advertise another ISP's
> address space for the purpose of multi-homing then use another ISP
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Brian,
> >
> > At UUNet we DO NOT advertise other ISPs IPs.  We will advertise the
> > customer's IPs if they own them (acquired from Arin, as mentioned by
> Jason).
> > By the way, Jason's explanation looks accurate.
> >
> > Elver
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:15 AM
> > To: Jason T. Carnevale
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Verizon BGP
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jason T. Carnevale wrote:
> >
> > > The problem is not that Verizon can not advertise another providers IP
> > > space it is that Venison by policy DOES NOT route other provider's IP
> > > space. What is trying to be accomplished here is that Jin Tam is
> > > trying to dual home his site, which is normal. Verizon requires that a
> > > customer get their own IP space from Arin to do this. Verizon is well
> > > aware of the longest match rule, but to route one ISPs address space
> > > to multiple ISPs, (even if it is a more specific route) is asking for
> > > global routing problems, which is why Verizon and other providers do
> > > not allow this. You will also find that large ISPs do not except BGP
> >
> > not true, just about any major backbone provider will do this for you.
> >
> > > routes more specific than /21. I would refer to Internet Routing
> >
> > some large ISP's yes.  Most large NSP's no.  Who am I talking
> > about?  Well, lets say you have a /24 from a provider, and want it
> > announced from your new provider.who will do this for you?  At
> > least:  UUnet, Qwest, Global Crossing, ATT, Sprint, Cable and
> > Wireless.
> >
> > A large ISP shouldn't care, if the case is legit.I mean, if a
> > customer comes to you, and needs his /24 dual homed for redundancy, help
> > him out.  If you don't someone else will.  Now I am not saying lets all
> > get together and dump on the global table, but its not fair that
companies
> > like UUnet for example, blatently leak MASSIVE routes into the global
> > table, routes that don't need to be there at all, routes that accomplish
> > nothing (specifics of a larger UUnet aggregate to a single homed UUnet
> > customer).  I mean, you have to make a buck too.  If UUnet cleaned up
its
> > routes alone, it would reduce the GLOBAL table by about 1/2%.  A single
> > companyreducing the memory consumption of every global router in
> > the world, by doing nothing more than cleaning up its routes..that
> > would equate to actual dollars saved.
> >
> > Sorry for the rant.  Bottom line, if an NSP won't announce your /24, go
> > somewhere else that will.there are plenty of options...and
my
> > god, most of them are better options than verizon.
> >
> >
> > > Architectures for more information on setting up a dual homed BGP
> > > session with your ISP. I also must state that people that respond to
> > > these types of posts should not assume all the facts are presented by
> > > the poster and with that in mind should not assume that the parties
> > > involved are high school idiots. Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > well.I just don't think the point is valid.  If Verizon
announces
> > the more specific route.what has happened?  One entry has been
> > added to the table.  If the user gets there own sp

RE: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Jin Tam

I am peering with UUNet and Verizon and I am advertising Verizons and
UUNet's address through UUNet and it does show up as a /24s. UUNet had a
static route for my /24 and I asked them to remove it and they did. So, now
my routes for my /24s show up as /24s. Verizon's engineers not only could
not figure out what I was trying to do but also pointed the finger in every
direction. I've talked with 5 engineers and 1 manager. Now, they want me to
talk to the BGP team which and I quote, "have banker hours." They said I
have to set the metric higher than UUNets then they said that I am pointing
the address at Null0. It is not their business what I do with that traffic
once it gets in and yes I do have more specific routes for the block. The
problem had nothing to do with the metrics since I removed the advertisement
through UUNet. I called UUNet and talked to a junior engineer, he took down
what I wanted to achieve and took it to a senior engineer and got my BGP
route advertised in 5 minutes. Verizon will no longer be one of our
providers by the end of this week.

 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Verizon BGP

Elver, you obviuosly do not work at UUNET or you are not aware of your
company's BGP policies. I've set up multihoming at customer sites before
with UUNET and other ISP's
In my opinion if an ISP will not allow you to advertise another ISP's
address space for the purpose of multi-homing then use another ISP


[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brian,
>
> At UUNet we DO NOT advertise other ISPs IPs.  We will advertise the
> customer's IPs if they own them (acquired from Arin, as mentioned by
Jason).
> By the way, Jason's explanation looks accurate.
>
> Elver
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:15 AM
> To: Jason T. Carnevale
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Verizon BGP
>
>
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jason T. Carnevale wrote:
>
> > The problem is not that Verizon can not advertise another providers IP
> > space it is that Venison by policy DOES NOT route other provider's IP
> > space. What is trying to be accomplished here is that Jin Tam is
> > trying to dual home his site, which is normal. Verizon requires that a
> > customer get their own IP space from Arin to do this. Verizon is well
> > aware of the longest match rule, but to route one ISPs address space
> > to multiple ISPs, (even if it is a more specific route) is asking for
> > global routing problems, which is why Verizon and other providers do
> > not allow this. You will also find that large ISPs do not except BGP
>
> not true, just about any major backbone provider will do this for you.
>
> > routes more specific than /21. I would refer to Internet Routing
>
> some large ISP's yes.  Most large NSP's no.  Who am I talking
> about?  Well, lets say you have a /24 from a provider, and want it
> announced from your new provider.who will do this for you?  At
> least:  UUnet, Qwest, Global Crossing, ATT, Sprint, Cable and
> Wireless.
>
> A large ISP shouldn't care, if the case is legit.I mean, if a
> customer comes to you, and needs his /24 dual homed for redundancy, help
> him out.  If you don't someone else will.  Now I am not saying lets all
> get together and dump on the global table, but its not fair that companies
> like UUnet for example, blatently leak MASSIVE routes into the global
> table, routes that don't need to be there at all, routes that accomplish
> nothing (specifics of a larger UUnet aggregate to a single homed UUnet
> customer).  I mean, you have to make a buck too.  If UUnet cleaned up its
> routes alone, it would reduce the GLOBAL table by about 1/2%.  A single
> companyreducing the memory consumption of every global router in
> the world, by doing nothing more than cleaning up its routes..that
> would equate to actual dollars saved.
>
> Sorry for the rant.  Bottom line, if an NSP won't announce your /24, go
> somewhere else that will.there are plenty of options...and my
> god, most of them are better options than verizon.
>
>
> > Architectures for more information on setting up a dual homed BGP
> > session with your ISP. I also must state that people that respond to
> > these types of posts should not assume all the facts are presented by
> > the poster and with that in mind should not assume that the parties
> > involved are high school idiots. Just my 2 cents.
>
> well.I just don't think the point is valid.  If Verizon announces
> the more specific route.what has happened?  One entry has been
> added to the table.  If the user gets there own space, and verizon
> announces, what has happened?  One entry has been added to the
> table...Now I know, that more than likely a user dual homing is going
> to have a half dozen or mor

RE: stupid questions

2000-10-10 Thread McCallum, Robert
Title: RE: stupid questions



Yes 
Frank you are right here.  BUT the original question was can you have 2 
Ethernet ports on the SAME router in the SAME subnet.  Which from this 
question Rik is perfectly correct.

  -Original Message-From: Frank 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 10 October 2000 
  15:24To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: stupid 
  questions
  Just one minor correction Of course you can 
  have multiple router ports on a single subnet!!
  Why couldn't you?!?!?  I just happen to have 
  that implemented here... it's called hhhmmm..
  a backbone!!
  
""Guyler, Rik [EESUS]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
No, 2 router ports cannot be on the same subnet.  You 
can, however, setup HSRP (Hot-Standby Router Protocol), which will give you 
the redundancy you need.  This requires 2 routers but gives you 
complete router redundancy and not just port/link redundancy.  Search 
for HSRP on www.cisco.com.
Rik 
-Original Message- From: 
Kedar Deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: stupid 
questions 
Hi, 
Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of 
routers on same network & have redundancy 
between them? 
regards, 
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RE: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Dave Humphrey

I've never heard of this practice either. An ISP will generally advertise his own 
address space or PI space.
Never that belonging to another provider. Which AS are you supposed to use to 
originate the addresses from?
Do you use a private AS number and strip it off upstream?

Dave Humphrey

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 October 2000 15:00
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Subject: Re: Verizon BGP


Elver, you obviuosly do not work at UUNET or you are not aware of your
company's BGP policies. I've set up multihoming at customer sites before
with UUNET and other ISP's
In my opinion if an ISP will not allow you to advertise another ISP's
address space for the purpose of multi-homing then use another ISP


[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brian,
>
> At UUNet we DO NOT advertise other ISPs IPs.  We will advertise the
> customer's IPs if they own them (acquired from Arin, as mentioned by
Jason).
> By the way, Jason's explanation looks accurate.
>
> Elver
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:15 AM
> To: Jason T. Carnevale
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Verizon BGP
>
>
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jason T. Carnevale wrote:
>
> > The problem is not that Verizon can not advertise another providers IP
> > space it is that Venison by policy DOES NOT route other provider's IP
> > space. What is trying to be accomplished here is that Jin Tam is
> > trying to dual home his site, which is normal. Verizon requires that a
> > customer get their own IP space from Arin to do this. Verizon is well
> > aware of the longest match rule, but to route one ISPs address space
> > to multiple ISPs, (even if it is a more specific route) is asking for
> > global routing problems, which is why Verizon and other providers do
> > not allow this. You will also find that large ISPs do not except BGP
>
> not true, just about any major backbone provider will do this for you.
>
> > routes more specific than /21. I would refer to Internet Routing
>
> some large ISP's yes.  Most large NSP's no.  Who am I talking
> about?  Well, lets say you have a /24 from a provider, and want it
> announced from your new provider.who will do this for you?  At
> least:  UUnet, Qwest, Global Crossing, ATT, Sprint, Cable and
> Wireless.
>
> A large ISP shouldn't care, if the case is legit.I mean, if a
> customer comes to you, and needs his /24 dual homed for redundancy, help
> him out.  If you don't someone else will.  Now I am not saying lets all
> get together and dump on the global table, but its not fair that companies
> like UUnet for example, blatently leak MASSIVE routes into the global
> table, routes that don't need to be there at all, routes that accomplish
> nothing (specifics of a larger UUnet aggregate to a single homed UUnet
> customer).  I mean, you have to make a buck too.  If UUnet cleaned up its
> routes alone, it would reduce the GLOBAL table by about 1/2%.  A single
> companyreducing the memory consumption of every global router in
> the world, by doing nothing more than cleaning up its routes..that
> would equate to actual dollars saved.
>
> Sorry for the rant.  Bottom line, if an NSP won't announce your /24, go
> somewhere else that will.there are plenty of options...and my
> god, most of them are better options than verizon.
>
>
> > Architectures for more information on setting up a dual homed BGP
> > session with your ISP. I also must state that people that respond to
> > these types of posts should not assume all the facts are presented by
> > the poster and with that in mind should not assume that the parties
> > involved are high school idiots. Just my 2 cents.
>
> well.I just don't think the point is valid.  If Verizon announces
> the more specific route.what has happened?  One entry has been
> added to the table.  If the user gets there own space, and verizon
> announces, what has happened?  One entry has been added to the
> table...Now I know, that more than likely a user dual homing is going
> to have a half dozen or more specifics, which could be replaced by a
> single ARIN allocation.  But does verizon take that into consideration?  I
> mean, its possible your other provider did actually give you a /21 for
> example.and that your space is contigious, and that by going to
> ARIN you save the world nothing.
>
> Also, what do you mean exactly that to route ones ISP space to another ISP
> can cause global routing problems?  I mean, so long as its done properly
> you should be ok, this is a design consideration of BGP.
>
> Once again, sorry for the long rant.
>
> Brian
>
>
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jin Tam wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone here peer with Verizon or work for the NOC. These guys are
> >
> > > telling me that I can't advertise an address 

Re: cisco IOS CLI emulation for bay

2000-10-10 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>I have heard that there is an emulation software package that 
>emulates a cisco IOS CLI on a bay router. If this is true where can 
>I get it. I am in desperate need, and will pay $$$ for it.
>
>
>Mike C.
>CCNA


Afraid not.  There are similarities between CLI and BCC, but they are 
quite different under the hood.  Any of the operator interfaces to 
Bay RS map to a strict MIB-based model internally, while Cisco does 
not.

A slight soapbox here -- always remember to be clear, when speaking 
of "CLI," if you mean the commands executed from user or privileged 
mode, or the configuration language.  They really aren't the same 
thing.



-- 
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***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not 
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Re: Cannot connect to pix thru console.

2000-10-10 Thread Brian

On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Rajeev Karamchand wrote:

> Hi Group.
> 
> I cannot connect to the pix thru console. After reboot
> everything is fine. Any Clues

I have seen this behavior with routers, but normally it would output an
error message to the console.  Perhaps their was not enough memory
available for the console session...

Brian


> 
> 
> regards
> rajeev
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Verizon BGP

2000-10-10 Thread Frank

HHHm.
I'm currently multihomed between UUNet and AT&T.  Now, I'm actually
advertising
UUNet's address space to AT&T, but looking through the BGP feed from UUNet,
I can pick out a ton of address space that you claim to originate, but isn't
actually
yours.  I actually, almost had the reverse config if AT&T's DS3 and OC-x
pricing
hadn't been so high, and I was told that it wouldn't be a problem.

I'll just pick out one, and let you do the rest of your homework.
How do you explain 12.96.91.0 which is actually AT&T, but you claim
to originate  While I know this used to be UUNet's policy, times have
obviously changed.
""Sena, Elver"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brian,
>
> It seems that you know something that no one in my engineering group
knows.
> I do work for UUNet as an Engineer not an SE and my group has been told
that
>
> 1) We do not advertise IPs unless they are owned by the customer.
> 2) If we advertise them (IPs not own by the customer), it will only
> be in our WAN portion of the web.  We will NOTadvertise it to our
> peers.
>
> As I said, you must know something I don't know and I DON'T mean to
question
> what you just said.  I will definitely research it within the company.
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Elver
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 9:30 AM
> To: Sena, Elver
> Cc: Jason T. Carnevale; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Verizon BGP
>
>
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Sena, Elver wrote:
>
> > Brian,
> >
> > At UUNet we DO NOT advertise other ISPs IPs.  We will advertise the
> > customer's IPs if they own them (acquired from Arin, as mentioned by
> Jason).
> > By the way, Jason's explanation looks accurate.
>
> Elver,
>
> I hate to tell this to an actual employee of the company, but "that not
> true.".  I know of at least 20 or so ISP's with UUnet transit, and
> non-portable address space from many other providers like Sprint, CW, etc,
> and you all announce it.  I personally have been a UUnet transit customer
> since 1995, we have multiple T1's and a DS3 with you all, and you all
> announce even /24's we have from other provider.  For example, head over
> to nitrous.digex.net (or the looking glass of your choice) and pop in
> "207.138.69.0".  You will see that about a half of dozen NSP's, including
> UUnet, are letting us announce this block thru them, yet it is
> non-portable space from Global Crossing.
>
> This is standard UUnet practice by the way, I am not some special case, I
> am going to take a guess and assume you probably just work for Worldcom
> and are not a UUnet SE.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> >
> > Elver
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:15 AM
> > To: Jason T. Carnevale
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Verizon BGP
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jason T. Carnevale wrote:
> >
> > > The problem is not that Verizon can not advertise another providers IP
> > > space it is that Venison by policy DOES NOT route other provider's IP
> > > space. What is trying to be accomplished here is that Jin Tam is
> > > trying to dual home his site, which is normal. Verizon requires that a
> > > customer get their own IP space from Arin to do this. Verizon is well
> > > aware of the longest match rule, but to route one ISPs address space
> > > to multiple ISPs, (even if it is a more specific route) is asking for
> > > global routing problems, which is why Verizon and other providers do
> > > not allow this. You will also find that large ISPs do not except BGP
> >
> > not true, just about any major backbone provider will do this for you.
> >
> > > routes more specific than /21. I would refer to Internet Routing
> >
> > some large ISP's yes.  Most large NSP's no.  Who am I talking
> > about?  Well, lets say you have a /24 from a provider, and want it
> > announced from your new provider.who will do this for you?  At
> > least:  UUnet, Qwest, Global Crossing, ATT, Sprint, Cable and
> > Wireless.
> >
> > A large ISP shouldn't care, if the case is legit.I mean, if a
> > customer comes to you, and needs his /24 dual homed for redundancy, help
> > him out.  If you don't someone else will.  Now I am not saying lets all
> > get together and dump on the global table, but its not fair that
companies
> > like UUnet for example, blatently leak MASSIVE routes into the global
> > table, routes that don't need to be there at all, routes that accomplish
> > nothing (specifics of a larger UUnet aggregate to a single homed UUnet
> > customer).  I mean, you have to make a buck too.  If UUnet cleaned up
its
> > routes alone, it would reduce the GLOBAL table by about 1/2%.  A single
> > companyreducing the memory consumption of every global router in
> > the world, by doing nothing more than cleaning up its routes..that
> > would equa

MCRI! MCRI! MCRI!

2000-10-10 Thread info

Are there any books geared for Managing Cisco Routed Internetworks
(MCRI 640-443)?? I've browsed Cisco's website along with Amazon.com
and can't seem to find a book geared for this test. Any help is
greatly appreciated!! Thanks!


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Re: stupid questions

2000-10-10 Thread Frank
Title: RE: stupid questions



Just one minor correction Of course you can 
have multiple router ports on a single subnet!!
Why couldn't you?!?!?  I just happen to have 
that implemented here... it's called hhhmmm..
a backbone!!

  ""Guyler, Rik [EESUS]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
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  No, 2 router ports cannot be on the same subnet.  You 
  can, however, setup HSRP (Hot-Standby Router Protocol), which will give you 
  the redundancy you need.  This requires 2 routers but gives you complete 
  router redundancy and not just port/link redundancy.  Search for HSRP on 
  www.cisco.com.
  Rik 
  -Original Message- From: Kedar 
  Deshpande [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: stupid 
  questions 
  Hi, 
  Is there any way that we can connect two ethernet ports of 
  routers on same network & have redundancy between 
  them? 
  regards, 
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