Off topic: Syslog Server [7:36360]

2002-02-25 Thread Shane Stockman

I have a sun box with solaris 5.6 which I need to convert into a syslog 
server.I am very new to this and would like to know how to setup the ip 
address and the files so that it does logging.I would like to point some of 
my cisco routers to it.

Thanks


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Re: beta exams [7:36356]

2002-02-25 Thread Theo

Hi,

I've just taken the Remote Access Beta exam. 153 questions in 3 hours.
Results due in 8-12 weeks (according to the Beta exam receipt)


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> anybody given beta exams in here in the past?
> currently the ccnp track exams are in for beta.. today being the last
> day. I was gonna take them when I read that results would be out only
> after 8-12 weeks.
> 140 questions/3 hours. these exams are of a different format too so
> chance of passing is reduced i guess. $50 is the price.
>
> Or is it that cisco sees to it that a certain %age of people who give
> these exams pass out?
> If its so, then chances for somebody well-prepared are pretty good.
> somebody, please guide.
> thx.




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Re: How does repeater work? [7:36323]

2002-02-25 Thread Kevin Cullimore

The classical repeater as described in the first couple of chapters of
nearly every networking/internetworking technologies survey is a little
before my time, but here are some thoughts:

-bridges are often described as multi-port repeaters, leaving the impression
that mere repeaters have but a single port (please note, that the coinage
described might involve distinguishing ingress from egress ports, but that's
hardly clear to the uninitiated). I suppose that an argument might be made
to lend legitimacy to the practice of contrasting the prefix multi with
something other than a term specifically denoting "one" or "single", but I'm
not sure how relevant that will turn out to be as time erodes those cases
without corroborating evidence.

-to the extent that the purpose of the repeater is to extend a LAN, one
might picture a device with two cables (or other data-traversing-friendly
media) attached: one connected to the original network, one connected to the
extension. I'm honestly not sure how else it would function.

-to the extent that the characterization i've provided is accurate, it might
be useful to apply bridging concepts in order to discern the functionality
of the repeater. A bridge accepts packets on a given port and, by charter,
does NOT transmit replicas of those packets on the same (ingress) port. I
therefore picture a repeater as a device that has 2 connections: one to the
original network, one to the LAN extension. If this is the case, I would
presume that the relevant functionality is to perpetuate packets received on
one port to the other. If that is the case, the repeater cannot be said to
create a loop. Note: if a loop already exists, the repeater would perpetuate
that condition, by design.

All: as I mentioned, repeaters ceased to be relevant before my time. If
anyone knows differently about the topics I've alluded to, please post your
dissenting statement.

Thanks,


- Original Message -
From: "mlh" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 3:18 PM
Subject: How does repeater work? [7:36323]


> Could anybody tell me how repeaters work ? I don't understand how repeater
> can regenerate
> the two-way signals from both segment connected to the repeater. Isn't it
> forming a loop?
> Pls forgive me asking the stupid question.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> mlh




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RE: Off topic: Syslog Server [7:36360]

2002-02-25 Thread Georg Pauwen

Hi Shane,

go to:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/intsolns/as5xipmo/sysmgt.htm#xtocid14874

and click on the 'Task 2. Enabling Syslog' link, this gives you a good
overview of the process.

Regards,

Georg


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RE: OSPF - Type 4 [7:36358]

2002-02-25 Thread Georg Pauwen

Hi Venkat,


both type 3 and type 4 are generated by Area Border routers. Type 3
describes routes to networks, also used for aggregating routes. Type 4
describes routes to ASBR. Summary Links (type 3) are identified by the IP
network numbers of the destinations they are pointing at. ASBR Summary Links
(Summary Links type 4) are identified by the RID of the ASBR. That means
that type 3 LSAs cannot carry information regarding the ASBR, and that's why
you need a type 4 LSA to reach the ASBR.
Since a router in stub area must send a packet to the ABR to reach the ASBR,
no matter what the external destination, there is no need to flood type 4
LSAs into a stub area.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Georg


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Fiber optic interface question [7:36366]

2002-02-25 Thread Alejandro Acosta

Hello,
  I am about to purchase a Fiber Optic Interface; because this kind of
cards are pretty expensive I prefer to ask you in order do not buy the wrong
interface.
  Can I connect this two cards: PA-POS-OC3SMI and PA-A3-OC3SMI?. We are
going to use single mode fiber and it is Mid Range.
  
Thanks in advanced.

Alejandro Acosta




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RE: How does repeater work? [7:36323]

2002-02-25 Thread Jim Dixon

You might try whatis.com for an answer.
You might also look for an RFC at the RFC Index for repeater.  A quick
search at ftp://ftp.isi.edu/ietf/1rfc_index.txt
yeilds:
RFC: 1368, 1516, 2108, & 2266 as matching on the word Repeater.

Peter Dyson in his Dictionary of Networking defines it as:

repeater

A simple hardware device that moves all packets from one local-area network
segment to another by regenerating, retiming, and amplifying the electrical
signals.

The main purpose of a repeater is to extend the length of the network
transmission medium beyond the normal maximum cable lengths

Jim

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Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 14:19
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Subject: How does repeater work? [7:36323]


Could anybody tell me how repeaters work ? I don't understand how repeater
can regenerate
the two-way signals from both segment connected to the repeater. Isn't it
forming a loop?
Pls forgive me asking the stupid question.

Thanks in advance.

mlh




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IGP and millisecond convergence time [7:36368]

2002-02-25 Thread bergenpeak

There was a paper published by PacketDesign 1-2 years ago
which suggested that features like MPLS fast-reconvergence
were solving a problem which could be better done by getting
IGP protocols to re-converge faster.   There was some discussion that
IGPs could be updated to support this (much bigger pipes means one
could sending hellos much more periodically; running new forms of SPF
which only re-computed the part of the tree which would change, etc.)

I see that there was an IS-IS ID published in 2000 that discussed
these topics.  The ID has since expired and so I don't know the
real content of what was proposed.  Looks like this work was also
presented at Nanog 20.

It doesn't look like this ID became an RFC.

Anyone have an idea where the technology is around fast reconvergence?
Are folks still thinking that it can be done by IGPs alone or
must we use other mechanisms (MPLS fast-reconvergence, DPT/RPR, etc.)?

Thanks




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VIC-2BRI S/T TE [7:36369]

2002-02-25 Thread murat emel

Hi everybody;

 I configured a Cisco2610 router with VIC-2BRI S/T TE and NM-2V voice
module for VoIP applications.The router runs with IOS c2600-is-mz.121-1
But I could not achived to make voice call with remote site.

Actually I dial my BRI number get the dial tone and dial the remote
sites number (which has FXS with 1750-2V) and achieved conversation
without any problem. But when I tried from FXS to BRI, I could not
achieved. My call comes to Cisco2610 but I can not dial any other digits
and  in 10sc  the call disconnects.

Any quick suggestions... ?

Thanks alot...

 



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VIC-2BRI S/T TE [7:36370]

2002-02-25 Thread murat emel

Hi everybody;

 I configured a Cisco2610 router with VIC-BRI S/T TE and NM-2V voice
module for VoIP applications.The router runs with IOS c2600-is-mz.121-1
But I could not achived to make voice call with remote site.

Actually I dial my BRI number get the dial tone and dial the remote
sites number (which has FXS with 1750-2V) and achieved conversation
without any problem. But when I tried from FXS to BRI, I could not
achieved. My call comes to Cisco2610 but I can not dial any other digits
and  in 10sc  the call disconnects.

 Any quick responses...

Thanks alot.



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TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay

Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco routers
and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i could
do the change automatically to the other active isp.
It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one of
my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp each
one, how to route accross the other good gateway.

Thnx in advance
Yassl




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RE: How does repeater work? [7:36323]

2002-02-25 Thread Mike Dickson

Actually, repeaters are not the same as bridges.  Repeaters operate at layer
1 of the OSI model, bridges at layer 2.  Hubs are multiport repeaters, and
switches are multiport bridges.  Repeaters were used in the days when
Thicknet and Thinnet Ethernet ruled the world, and extend the cable segment.

Mike Dickson
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Subject: Re: How does repeater work? [7:36323]


The classical repeater as described in the first couple of chapters of
nearly every networking/internetworking technologies survey is a little
before my time, but here are some thoughts:

-bridges are often described as multi-port repeaters, leaving the impression
that mere repeaters have but a single port (please note, that the coinage
described might involve distinguishing ingress from egress ports, but that's
hardly clear to the uninitiated). I suppose that an argument might be made
to lend legitimacy to the practice of contrasting the prefix multi with
something other than a term specifically denoting "one" or "single", but I'm
not sure how relevant that will turn out to be as time erodes those cases
without corroborating evidence.

-to the extent that the purpose of the repeater is to extend a LAN, one
might picture a device with two cables (or other data-traversing-friendly
media) attached: one connected to the original network, one connected to the
extension. I'm honestly not sure how else it would function.

-to the extent that the characterization i've provided is accurate, it might
be useful to apply bridging concepts in order to discern the functionality
of the repeater. A bridge accepts packets on a given port and, by charter,
does NOT transmit replicas of those packets on the same (ingress) port. I
therefore picture a repeater as a device that has 2 connections: one to the
original network, one to the LAN extension. If this is the case, I would
presume that the relevant functionality is to perpetuate packets received on
one port to the other. If that is the case, the repeater cannot be said to
create a loop. Note: if a loop already exists, the repeater would perpetuate
that condition, by design.

All: as I mentioned, repeaters ceased to be relevant before my time. If
anyone knows differently about the topics I've alluded to, please post your
dissenting statement.

Thanks,


- Original Message -
From: "mlh"
To:
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 3:18 PM
Subject: How does repeater work? [7:36323]


> Could anybody tell me how repeaters work ? I don't understand how repeater
> can regenerate
> the two-way signals from both segment connected to the repeater. Isn't it
> forming a loop?
> Pls forgive me asking the stupid question.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> mlh




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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Chris Charlebois

Depends alot on what kind of connection you want.  If you are just talking
about outbound access from your site, that isn't a problem.  Setup the two
routers on the same subnet and use HSRP.  Best practive would be to set up
two HSRP address; each router will be primarary for one address and backup
for the other.  That way you can direct traffic over a specific connection
when it's all up, but traffic will failover to one connection if the other
goes down.

If, on the other hand, you want to maintain public services during an outage
(ie, web pages, FTP sites, incoming e-mail), that is a gorilla of a
completly different color.  If you're site is big enough, you could justify
a /19 public address, which can be routed via BGP.  That would solve alot of
you're problems, but it's unlikely that you'd be asking the question if you
had a /19.  Some protocols will allow you to specifiy a backup via DNS (I'm
thinking SMTP), but that only helps with mail.  Otherwise, you're options
are co-locateing the equipment you always want available, or switching both
your WAN connections to the same ISP.  THere is no really easy solution.


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Re: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread sam sneed

You would want to use both HSRP and BGP in this case. HSRP will solve the
problem of changing the default gateway on the clients when a link fails.
BGP will be used for fault tolerance at the ISP side. Here is a sample doc I
got form the cisco site:

http://www.v-man.net/support/pdf/hsrp_bgp.pdf

""Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay""  wrote in message
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> Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco
routers
> and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
> one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
> I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i
could
> do the change automatically to the other active isp.
> It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one
of
> my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
> So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp
each
> one, how to route accross the other good gateway.
>
> Thnx in advance
> Yassl




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RE: VIC-2BRI S/T TE [7:36369]

2002-02-25 Thread Chris Charlebois

My first guess would be lack of DTMF relay, but I'm afraid I don't have
enough information to fully diagnose this.  If there is no DTMF relay
configured, it's possible the secondary dialed digits are not being received
by the 2610.


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RE: OSPF Question [7:36352]

2002-02-25 Thread Georg Pauwen

Hi Hunt,

I did some research and found this:

Hello packets behave differently depending on the network type as described
below.

Point-to-point Network
Neighbor discovery is dynamic
Hello is sent to the multicast address AllSPFRouter (224.0.0.5)
No DR/BDR election 

Broadcast Network
Neighbor discovery is dynamic
Hello is sent to the multicast address AllSPFRouter (224.0.0.5)
DR/BDR election takes place 

NBMA Network
A configuration is required in order to discover the neighbor
Hello is sent unicast to each remote neighbor's IP address
DR/BDR election takes place 
Note that since DR/BDR takes place, you would need at least a connection
from DR/BDR to all the neighbors in order to guarantee the proper operation
in this mode.
DR/BDR sends Hello to all routers
A router is eligible to become DR/BDR (priority different than 0) and it
sends Hello packets only to DR/BDR and those routers that are eligible to
become DR/BDR
A router not eligible to become DR/BDR (priority 0) sends Hello packets only
to DR/BDR

Point-to-Multipoint Network
Point-to-multipoint is considered a collection of point-to-point networks.
Depending on the configuration, neighbor discovery could be dynamic.
ip ospf network point-to-point
Neighbor discovery is dynamic
Hello is sent to the multicast address AllSPFRouter (224.0.0.5)
No DR/BDR election 
In this case the Hello is sent to the multicast address AllSPFRouter and
replicates the packet over each connection. It is important to note that the
connection should be permanent (PVC) and not dynamic (SVC) as this would fail.

ip ospf network point-to-multipoint non-broadcast

A configuration is required in order to discover the neighbor


Hello is unicast to each remote neighbor IP address

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Georg



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Re: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Rob Webber

For the outbound connectivity, use the HSRP track feature. That "watches" an
interface (the WAN link to your ISP). If that interface goes down, the HSRP
priority of that router gets reduced, making the other router (with the good
ISP link) the HSRP primary. HSRP will make it so no changes are required at
your server.

As mentioned if you have Internet facing servers (mail server, web server),
you really need BGP. However many ISPs will now accept advertisements as
small as /24. So if you have a class C of registered addresses (or if you
can get that) you can advertise it to both ISPs via BGP (even if it was
assigned to you by one of the ISPs).

Rob.
CCIE 6922

""Chris Charlebois""  wrote in message
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> Depends alot on what kind of connection you want.  If you are just talking
> about outbound access from your site, that isn't a problem.  Setup the two
> routers on the same subnet and use HSRP.  Best practive would be to set up
> two HSRP address; each router will be primarary for one address and backup
> for the other.  That way you can direct traffic over a specific connection
> when it's all up, but traffic will failover to one connection if the other
> goes down.
>
> If, on the other hand, you want to maintain public services during an
outage
> (ie, web pages, FTP sites, incoming e-mail), that is a gorilla of a
> completly different color.  If you're site is big enough, you could
justify
> a /19 public address, which can be routed via BGP.  That would solve alot
of
> you're problems, but it's unlikely that you'd be asking the question if
you
> had a /19.  Some protocols will allow you to specifiy a backup via DNS
(I'm
> thinking SMTP), but that only helps with mail.  Otherwise, you're options
> are co-locateing the equipment you always want available, or switching
both
> your WAN connections to the same ISP.  THere is no really easy solution.




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Re: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]+ Some details of my net [7:36379]

2002-02-25 Thread Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay

Hello
The mail server have 2 ips one for 65.169.240.  and the second 169.158.32.
network.

This is de configuration havae in my server:.
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=MailServer
#GATEWAY=169.158.32.1
GATEWAY=65.169.240.209

In this moment my gateway is 65.169.240.209, because the other (commented
with #) is down, so i have to do tha manually and restart the network
service
I thanks to you i study how to do it with HSRP. And study how this changes
affects my mail server.


So when 169.158.32.  is down. I have to to manually the change of gateways
""Chris Charlebois""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Depends alot on what kind of connection you want.  If you are just talking
> about outbound access from your site, that isn't a problem.  Setup the two
> routers on the same subnet and use HSRP.  Best practive would be to set up
> two HSRP address; each router will be primarary for one address and backup
> for the other.  That way you can direct traffic over a specific connection
> when it's all up, but traffic will failover to one connection if the other
> goes down.
>
> If, on the other hand, you want to maintain public services during an
outage
> (ie, web pages, FTP sites, incoming e-mail), that is a gorilla of a
> completly different color.  If you're site is big enough, you could
justify
> a /19 public address, which can be routed via BGP.  That would solve alot
of
> you're problems, but it's unlikely that you'd be asking the question if
you
> had a /19.  Some protocols will allow you to specifiy a backup via DNS
(I'm
> thinking SMTP), but that only helps with mail.  Otherwise, you're options
> are co-locateing the equipment you always want available, or switching
both
> your WAN connections to the same ISP.  THere is no really easy solution.




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Re: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Patrick Ramsey

chances are bgp will not be availablefirst..he has to have the address
space...second...if he didn't plan for it before hand, he's probably got a
couple'a 2500's or 2600's Try running bgp on a 2500. (unless of
course he uses the same isp for both connections and they work with him on
setting up redundancy)  But at that point he still would not have his own
asn for bgp...

-Patrick

>>> "sam sneed"  02/25/02 10:46AM >>>
You would want to use both HSRP and BGP in this case. HSRP will solve the
problem of changing the default gateway on the clients when a link fails.
BGP will be used for fault tolerance at the ISP side. Here is a sample doc I
got form the cisco site:

http://www.v-man.net/support/pdf/hsrp_bgp.pdf 

""Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay""  wrote in message
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> Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco
routers
> and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
> one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
> I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i
could
> do the change automatically to the other active isp.
> It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one
of
> my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
> So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp
each
> one, how to route accross the other good gateway.
>
> Thnx in advance
> Yassl
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Re: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]+ Some details of my [7:36381]

2002-02-25 Thread Patrick Ramsey

wow...At this point I hope nobody is scanning archives for ip addresses...

>>> "Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay"  02/25/02 10:56AM >>>
Hello
The mail server have 2 ips one for 65.169.240.  and the second 169.158.32.
network.

This is de configuration havae in my server:.
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=MailServer
#GATEWAY=169.158.32.1
GATEWAY=65.169.240.209

In this moment my gateway is 65.169.240.209, because the other (commented
with #) is down, so i have to do tha manually and restart the network
service
I thanks to you i study how to do it with HSRP. And study how this changes
affects my mail server.


So when 169.158.32.  is down. I have to to manually the change of gateways
""Chris Charlebois""  wrote in message
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> Depends alot on what kind of connection you want.  If you are just talking
> about outbound access from your site, that isn't a problem.  Setup the two
> routers on the same subnet and use HSRP.  Best practive would be to set up
> two HSRP address; each router will be primarary for one address and backup
> for the other.  That way you can direct traffic over a specific connection
> when it's all up, but traffic will failover to one connection if the other
> goes down.
>
> If, on the other hand, you want to maintain public services during an
outage
> (ie, web pages, FTP sites, incoming e-mail), that is a gorilla of a
> completly different color.  If you're site is big enough, you could
justify
> a /19 public address, which can be routed via BGP.  That would solve alot
of
> you're problems, but it's unlikely that you'd be asking the question if
you
> had a /19.  Some protocols will allow you to specifiy a backup via DNS
(I'm
> thinking SMTP), but that only helps with mail.  Otherwise, you're options
> are co-locateing the equipment you always want available, or switching
both
> your WAN connections to the same ISP.  THere is no really easy solution.
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Re: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco routers
>and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
>one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
>I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i could
>do the change automatically to the other active isp.
>It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one of
>my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
>So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp each
>one, how to route accross the other good gateway.
>
>Thnx in advance
>Yassl

Can you run HSRP between the two gateways and tell the servers to use 
the virtual HSRP address as the default gateway?  Assuming one router 
goes to one ISP and the other goes to the other ISP, and the two BGP 
routers are iBGP connected, it should work -- the server shouldn't 
care which router it exits.




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RE: Please help me answer this question [7:36295]

2002-02-25 Thread Hire, Ejay

C.  A firewall has the capability of blocking traffic from certain sites.

A.  This is incorrect because the firewall cannot distinguish between a
SEC-filed Annual report placed on a public internet website and a
Work-in-progress-next-year's-Annual-Report placed on an intranet website on
the same server.


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1. Which of the following customers can probably meet their security
requirements with a simple firewall system?
A. Company ABC wants to make sure customers can see public marketing data
but not proprietary sales figures.
B. University ABC want to make sure students can see but not change their
grades in administrative database.
C. Company XYZ wants to make sure employees do not download software from
unauthorized site.
D. University XYZ wants to make sure that public central software developed
at the university stops working after a period of time if the user does not
pay shareware fees.
=
I think C is right. But some people think A.

What do you think? Why?




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RE: Catlyst 2926T [7:36335]

2002-02-25 Thread Georg Pauwen

Hello Colin,

according to the Cisco site, as long as you have a minimum of 16MB DRAM
(which you have), software release 4.x is fully supported.

Regards,

Georg


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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Bill Carter

HSRP on the Ethernet Interfaces of your 2 routers.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco routers
and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i could
do the change automatically to the other active isp.
It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one of
my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp each
one, how to route accross the other good gateway.

Thnx in advance
Yassl




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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Hire, Ejay

Hi.  

To maintain uninterrupted services even if one of your ISP's Fail, you need
to run BGP.  I created a "basics of BGP" document on [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and I'm posting it here.  I am a consultant looking for work, if you decide
to implement BGP, I would like to help.

---Begin crosspost---

1.  Talk to your ISP's and see if they will let you peer with them.  This
isn't a question that the average helpdesk person is going to be able to
answer, so you may have to work your way up the food chain.  If the answer
is no, then select a new ISP.

2.  Apply for a Autonomous Sytem Number from Arin.  This Requires ARIN
membership ($500 one-time, $30 annual).  If you are not in the continental
US, substitute RIPE or APNIC for ARIN.

3.  Acquire a minimum of a /24 (256 Ip's) from at least one of your ISP's.

4.  Acquire the following information from each of your ISP's.
 4a. Ip Address of the Peer
 4b. AS# of the peer
 4c. Authentiaction (if any)

5.  Provide each of your ISP's with the following info.\
 5a. Your Peer IP address
 5b. Your AS#
 5c. Authentication (if any, not reccomended)
 5d. The Subnets you will be advertising (Some ISP's filter the incoming
advertisements.  Why?  Lookup "Blackhole-ing".)

6.  Configure BGP on your router.  (Imho, preferably cisco.)
 6a.  Assuming you want to do load balancing, (as best as possible)
  6a1.  If you have less than 32 mb of Ram, then accept only each providers
default route.
  6a2.  If you have less than 64 mb of Ram, then accept routes from each
provider with a as-path of 1 hop or less and each providers default route.
  6a3.  If you have more than 64mb of Ram, Accept Full routes from each
provider and let the router select the shortest AS-path.  Monitor your
memory usage and maintain at least 12 mb free at any given time.
 6b.If you have a primary and a secondary link, and want to prefer one
over the other, or want more control over traffic entering and exiting, then
use one of the following stratigies.
  6b1.  As-Prepend to cause the internet to prefer one link or the other
  6b2.  Set the (Cisco Specific) weight on the preferred link
  6b3.  Filter to accept summary routes only from one provider
  6b3.  Use BGP's metrics to reccomend preferences to your ISP's

It Seems like a lot, but really it's not that bad.  If anyone needs help
with this, E-mail me off list.  The ISP I work for is expiring and I will be
glad to help you out.  (As an advisor (free advice), or as a
contractor(Price varies from negotiable to negligible.))

Thanks,
Ejay Hire
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
434-591-4564

... Have router will travel!

---End Crosspost--


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-Original Message-
From: Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco routers
and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i could
do the change automatically to the other active isp.
It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one of
my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp each
one, how to route accross the other good gateway.

Thnx in advance
Yassl




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ciscoworks autodiscovery [7:36386]

2002-02-25 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Hey group,

Anybody run into any problems with autodicovery form ani?

I installed the entire lan management collection, browsed to ciscoworks url,
changed the autodicovery dates/times...Then it asked me if I would like to
go ahead and perform an autodiscovery... wow...how convienant...of course I
would!... and WAHLA!   uhh...  nothing happened... so I thought...maybe
I'll let it sit over the weekend and run through all the different times I
had autodiscovery set up for... and low and behold still nothing!

what gives?  my snmp strings are as follows

*.*.*.*:pub::priv

with pub and priv being substituted for the real deal...

any ideas?  Is there some cheezy setting somewhere I am just missing?

-Patrick



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Re: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Godswill Oletu

HSRP-Hot Standby Router Protocol would be your best bet, BGP might come into
play but it require more complications and coorperations from your both
upstream providers(ISPs). However with HSRP configured on both routers:

Use the Config below as a guide:
FOR ROUTER1 to ISP 1
(Include all DNS, default gateways and specific parameters pointing to
ISP1's networt here)
int serial 0
ip address n.n.n.n n.n.n.n (ISP1's serial interface IP address)
interface Ethernet1
  ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x (inside network)
  standby  priority 105
  standby  preempt
  standby  ip x.x.x.x+z (where z can be a +ve or -ve number, just a free IP
address)
  standby  track Serial0

FOR ROUTER2 to ISP 2
(Include all DNS, default gateways and specific parameters pointing to
ISP2's networt here)

interface serial 0
ip address k.k.k.k k.k.k.k (ISP2's serial interface IP address)
interface Ethernet1
 ip address p.p.p.p p.p.p.p (Inside Network)
 standby  priority 100
 standby  ip x.x.x.x+z (where z can be a +ve or -ve number, just a free IP
address)

NOTE:
Set your inside server's gateway address to x.x.x.x+z .Router2 above will be
the active router thus the router to ISP1.However if ISP one becomes
unavailable, its priority will be reduced from 105 making router two to
become the active router. Because of the preempt command Router1 resumes its
active role whenever it become available again and router2 would then revert
back to be the standy router.

I guess this might help you, you can check Cisco site for more information.
(http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/hsrp_bgp.html)

Enjoy
Godswill Oletu CSS1,CCDP,CCNP.


- Original Message -
From: Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:10 AM
Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


> Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco
routers
> and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
> one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
> I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i
could
> do the change automatically to the other active isp.
> It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one
of
> my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
> So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp
each
> one, how to route accross the other good gateway.
>
> Thnx in advance
> Yassl
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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.

Run HSRP between the two cisco routers and then point your default gateway
to the VIP address.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


-Original Message-
From: Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco routers
and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i could
do the change automatically to the other active isp.
It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one of
my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp each
one, how to route accross the other good gateway.

Thnx in advance
Yassl




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RE: OSPF Question [7:36352]

2002-02-25 Thread s vermill

Hunt Lee wrote:
> 
> I believe someone might have mentioned this already but since
> I'm studying
> it right now I thought I'd ask again...  It would be greatly
> appreciated if
> someone can shed some light on this.
> 
> For OSPF Point-to-MulitPoint Network type, does the OSPF
> packets use
> multicast or unicast?
> 
> My understanding is that Point-to-Multipoint Network type is a
> special
> config of NBMA network in which the network are treated as a
> collection of
> Point-to-Point links.  And since Point-to-Point links always
> use multicast
> (to ALLSPFRouter address 224.0.0.5), I thought Multicast will
> hence use
> Multicast too... however... the TCP / IP Vol1 by Jeff Doyle says
> Point-to-Point links' Updates as well as Hello packets use
> unicast
> 
> Please help...
> 
> Best Regards,
> Hunt Lee
> 
> 

Hunt Lee,

Georg Pauwen has provided an excellent summary.  I'm cutting and pasting
that into a word document for quick reference in the future.  If you have a
couple of routers available, I would recommend turning on 'debug ip packet'
'debug ip ospf adj' 'debug ip ospf hello' and 'debug ip ospf packet'  Shut
and no shut a couple of interfaces here and there.  Do this for all types of
NMBA modes.  You can see where the various traffic types are coming from and
going to (e.g. hellos to 224.0.0.5 on p-t-p and p-t-mp subinterfaces), etc.

Scott




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Cissps [7:36391]

2002-02-25 Thread Chris Sweeting

Is Cissp worth getting?




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Re: Remote Access simple question [7:36213]

2002-02-25 Thread Maverick

Was just going through the same page when this same question also struck
me

verdict.. typo. Look at the screen capture on the following page and you
will see that the correct line numbers are reflected.

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> If I recall correctly, you are right, the answer would be S 3/1.  Perhaps
> it's just a Type-O... It's not like that doesn't ever happen ;-)
>
> Mark
>
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> Subject: Remote Access simple question [7:36213]
>
>
> Q) Which interface is line 97 on a 3640?
> A)Answer is S 2/1.
>
> The answer seems wrong to me. On a 3640, this is how lines are numbered:
>
>
>
> slot0lines 1-32
> slot133-64
> slot265-96
> slot397-128
>
> So, the interface would be S 3/1 rather.
> This question appears on Chapter4/Q6 in the Q&A section of cisco press
> remote access cert.guide
> Thank You




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Ch 7 pg 518 in ccie practical studies - Karl [7:36393]

2002-02-25 Thread Rajesh Kumar

Hi all,

I am quoting here the second paragraph on Pg 518 of CCIE practical
studies book


"Because link-state protocols rely on the use of periodic hellos to
retain neighbor adjacency snapshot routing can be used only with
link-state protocols, such as IGRP and RIP for IP, RIP for IPX, and RTMP
for AT "


Having said link-state protocols and giving examples of distance vector
protocols I am presuming a typo in this.

Can anybody comment on this please?

Thanks
Rajesh




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dialup mac address [7:36394]

2002-02-25 Thread Patrick Ramsey

hey group

I've got a 3640 with a couple'a pri's and two modem banks... I want to give
vendors access to very specific servers through a firewall... (netscreen) 
My original thought was to place the vendor's mac address for it's dialup
adapter in dhcp and assign it the same ip every timethen base the ACL's
to each server on the vendor ip address...

All the searching I have done on the web say dialup adapters have generic
mac addresses, ie 44-45-53-54-00-00 ... How can I get the 3640 to dole out
specfic ip's to vendors?  How do isp's keep up with leases if this is the
case?

-Patrick


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Re: How does repeater work? [7:36323]

2002-02-25 Thread mlh

I cannot agree that bridges are often described as multi-port repeaters.
Actually, hubs are multi-port repeaters.


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To: 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: How does repeater work? [7:36323]


> The classical repeater as described in the first couple of chapters of
> nearly every networking/internetworking technologies survey is a little
> before my time, but here are some thoughts:
>
> -bridges are often described as multi-port repeaters, leaving the
impression
> that mere repeaters have but a single port (please note, that the coinage
> described might involve distinguishing ingress from egress ports, but
that's
> hardly clear to the uninitiated). I suppose that an argument might be made
> to lend legitimacy to the practice of contrasting the prefix multi with
> something other than a term specifically denoting "one" or "single", but
I'm
> not sure how relevant that will turn out to be as time erodes those cases
> without corroborating evidence.
>
> -to the extent that the purpose of the repeater is to extend a LAN, one
> might picture a device with two cables (or other data-traversing-friendly
> media) attached: one connected to the original network, one connected to
the
> extension. I'm honestly not sure how else it would function.
>
> -to the extent that the characterization i've provided is accurate, it
might
> be useful to apply bridging concepts in order to discern the functionality
> of the repeater. A bridge accepts packets on a given port and, by charter,
> does NOT transmit replicas of those packets on the same (ingress) port. I
> therefore picture a repeater as a device that has 2 connections: one to
the
> original network, one to the LAN extension. If this is the case, I would
> presume that the relevant functionality is to perpetuate packets received
on
> one port to the other. If that is the case, the repeater cannot be said to
> create a loop. Note: if a loop already exists, the repeater would
perpetuate
> that condition, by design.
>
> All: as I mentioned, repeaters ceased to be relevant before my time. If
> anyone knows differently about the topics I've alluded to, please post
your
> dissenting statement.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "mlh"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 3:18 PM
> Subject: How does repeater work? [7:36323]
>
>
> > Could anybody tell me how repeaters work ? I don't understand how
repeater
> > can regenerate
> > the two-way signals from both segment connected to the repeater. Isn't
it
> > forming a loop?
> > Pls forgive me asking the stupid question.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > mlh




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VoIP problem [7:36396]

2002-02-25 Thread Patrick Donlon

Hi all

I've a problem with a voice router I'm getting DSP timeout errors on the far
end (egress) router and I was wondering if anyone has any ideas. See the
text below for the error, it appears after the call is disconnected with
"normal call clearing", we use E1s. A reboot will make the problem go away
for a short while and we using 12.2(4)T on a 3640. The call routing is fine
and I can make csim calls from the far end router to my local router and to
my phone no problem, in the other direction I get DSP timeouts.

Cheers

Pat

10w5d: %VTSP-3-DSP_TIMEOUT: DSP timeout on event 0x6: DSP ID=0x1: DSP Disc
(call mode=0)
10w5d: %VTSP-3-DSP_TIMEOUT: DSP timeout on event 0x6: DSP ID=0x1: DSP error
stats (call mode=1658181684), chnl info(1, 0, 0)




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Re: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164]

2002-02-25 Thread Anil Gupte

Yes, that does make sense.  Thanx for the detailed reply.  I did finally use
the following:

conf t
int ethernet0/0
no ip access-list extended secure2
ip access-list extended secure2
deny tcp any any eq 
deny tcp any any eq 139
permit ip any any

int ethernet0/0
ip access-group secure2 out
ip access-group secure2 in

exit
wr

Thanx again,
Anil Gupte


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Petzold" 
To: "Anil Gupte" ; 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164]


> Remember the model OSI model.  IP can have multiple higher level protocols
> running over it.  So IP uses protocol numbers to identify the higher level
> protocol that it should send the data to.  If you do a deny ? on a router
> you will see all the different protocols (eigrp, gre, icmp, ospf, pim,
tcp,
> udp).  Once the IP layer passes the packet up to the transport layer the
> layer 4 protocol has to know which application to send the data to.  So
the
> TCP protocol will send traffic on port 80 to the web server and traffic to
> port 25 to the smtp server.
>
> Layer 7 - Application
> Layer 6 - Presentation
> Layer 5 - Session
> Layer 4 - Transport  Layer 3 - NetworkLayer 2 - Datalink   Layer 1 -
Physical
>
> The first line will not work.  IP is the layer 3 protocol, tcp, udp, icmp,
> etc are layer 4 protocols.  So while tcp and udp have port numbers, ip
> doesn't.  If I want to deny http traffic I must deny tcp port 80 because
> http uses TCP port 80.  The same holds true for UDP.  If I wanted to deny
> snmp traffic I would deny UDP port 161.
>
> If you set the last line to "permit tcp any any" it would allow any tcp
> based traffic but because there is a specific deny all at the end of all
> access-lists, you would deny udp, icmp, eigrp, ospf, etc. The permit ip
any
> any says allow all layer 4 ip protocols.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Anil Gupte
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164]
>
>
> Actually my question was not clear, I think.  My confusion is with the IP
> vs. TCP.  In other words should it not be somthing like:
>
> deny ip any any eq 139
> permit ip any any
>
> Why deny TCP and permit IP as opposed to deny IP and permit IP?
>
> Also, the purpose of these is that I am trying to block some suspicious
> activity on those ports (I think someone may be running an illegal IRC
> server on that port).
>
> Thanx for the reply (and the kid gloves). :-)
> Anil Gupte
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Nawalaniec"
> To: "'Anil Gupte'" ;
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:17 PM
> Subject: RE: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164]
>
>
> > Hi Anil,
> >
> > Sometimes its scaring posting to this group. =)
> >
> > To answer your question,
> > if you don't the permit IP any any command, there is an implicit deny
rule
> > at the end of an access-list, which will drop all traffic that you have
> not
> > allowed through the access-list.
> >
> > The other two deny statements are dropping netbios port 139 and
something
> > that uses port .
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Anil Gupte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 7:59 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Access Lists are a bit mystifying [7:36164]
> >
> >
> > Hi All!
> >
> > I watch this list occassionally (when I have time).  This is my first
post
> > to this list, so be kind. :p)
> >
> > In the access list below:
> > **
> > conf t
> > int ethernet0/0
> > no ip access-list extended secure2
> > ip access-list extended secure2
> > deny tcp any any eq 
> > deny tcp any any eq 139
> > permit ip any any
> >
> > int ethernet0/0
> > ip access-group secure2 out
> > ip access-group secure2 in
> >
> > exit
> > wr
> > **
> > Why is it that you need to deny TCP and permit IP?  Or did I not do this
> > right?
> >
> > Thanx,
> > Anil Gupte




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Microsoft IAS & Cisco Router Authentication [7:36398]

2002-02-25 Thread Coyne Jim

Can anyone point me in the correct direction or send me to a web page that
has information on Microsoft IAS and Cisco routers? I searched the Cisco
site and the only thing I can find is IAS authenticating VPN devices. I am
trying to setup router authentication using Microsoft IAS (RADIUS) so I
don't need to keep two user databases. When I setup IAS I get a username:
and password: prompt, but it never authenticates anyone. I have setup
TACACS+ servers with my lab in the past and did not have any problems. Any
help would be appreciated..



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Aironet 350 WAP Load Balancing [7:36399]

2002-02-25 Thread Maverick

Hi,

Quick question. If I have two Aironet 350 WAP in range of each other, do
they automatically load balance? Any configuration needed.

The release notes seems to imply that this is done automatically

thks

YK




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Gateway/Network Address confusion [7:36400]

2002-02-25 Thread Anil Gupte

Trying to apply what I am learning in the CCNA class, I am running into some
confusion regarding some basic concepts.  I am trying to apply what I
learned to our network which has a few colocated customers to whom I want to
assign ips with subnets.

We have a /23 assigned to us, let us call it 63.142.136.0/23.  We have
broken it up into (assigned on our router's etherne port):

  Internet address is 63.142.136.1/24
  Secondary address 63.142.137.1/24

Also, "show ip route static" shows (among other things):
S   63.142.136.0/23 is directly connected, Null0
S*   0.0.0.0/0 [1/0] via 66.100.223.193

Now here is where my confusion begins.  I want to assign a subnet to a
customer, let us say
63.142.136.32/27 which will be 32 - 63 with 32 being the network address and
63 being the broadcast.  I will then add

ip route 63.142.136.32 255.255.255.224

On his Windows server, do I assign 63.142.136.33 as the default gateway?
and now do I need to add a route to route his subnet to 63.142.136.1?

Am I confused about the Gateway vs. network address?  If I could understand
this, I think I would understand everything about routing. :-)  Well maybe
not, but I sure would feel better about it...

Thanx,
Anil Gupte




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Re: Cissps [7:36391]

2002-02-25 Thread Godswill Oletu

Though it is a paper and ink certification, it seems to be the Security
certification most recruiters know off. If you can't beat them join them. I
have not seem any recruiter naming CSS1 or stuff like that, though that
might be because it is relatively new, however they do not even give the
CCNP+Security specialist good exposure.

Many also consider the CISSP as the security equavilant of CCIE, I really do
not seem the similarities or where both of them have a tie.

Enjoy.
Godswill Oletu

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Subject: Cissps [7:36391]


> Is Cissp worth getting?
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OSPF Point-to-Multipoint Non-Broadcast command [7:36402]

2002-02-25 Thread Tim Booth

Hello,

  As I understand it, Frame-Relay is a NBMA technology. Why isn't it
necessary to specify the non-broadcast command when configuring ip ospf
network point-to-multipoint ? And for that matter, why
does ip ospf network broadcast work with FR? This seems like an answer I
should know...

Kind Regards,
Tim Booth
MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE written
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Re: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]

2002-02-25 Thread Cisco Nuts

Exactly!! No wonder I was thinking how I could have missed it... :-(

Bruce, what's up with this? Any plans for this coming Saturday...


>From: "Kevin Wigle" 
>Reply-To: "Kevin Wigle" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]
>Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:14:27 -0500
>
>guess you didn't want a big turn out since I see it says sent
>Sunday, 24 Feb
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Bruce Evry"
>To:
>Sent: Sunday, 24 February, 2002 10:57
>Subject: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]
>
>
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > After taking the month of January off, we are going to hold the
> > next meeting/luncheon of the Washington DC group this coming Saturday.
> >
> > Saturday, February 23, 2002
> > Time 10 am to 4 pm
> > Place - Bruce's House with newly rebuilt Garage!
> > 1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, MD 20744
> >
> > Please bring Laptops, Snacks, Sodas, Desserts and of course
> > Routers and Switches.
> >
> > This session we will be doing OSPF and IGRP redistribution the
> > hard way. Figure it's about time we kill this thing and nail down the 
>lid
> > to its coffin... :)
> >
> > Speaking of learning Cisco stuff, I want to thank all of you who
> > sent such nice replies to my question about affordable training.
> >
> > I would like to offer interested folks the chance to come visit us
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> >
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> >
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Re: Ch 7 pg 518 in ccie practical studies - Karl [7:36393]

2002-02-25 Thread Scott H.

Should be "snapshot routing can be used only with distance vector protocols,
such as IGRP and RIP."

""Rajesh Kumar""  wrote in message
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>
> I am quoting here the second paragraph on Pg 518 of CCIE practical
> studies book
>
>
> "Because link-state protocols rely on the use of periodic hellos to
> retain neighbor adjacency snapshot routing can be used only with
> link-state protocols, such as IGRP and RIP for IP, RIP for IPX, and RTMP
> for AT "
>
>
> Having said link-state protocols and giving examples of distance vector
> protocols I am presuming a typo in this.
>
> Can anybody comment on this please?
>
> Thanks
> Rajesh




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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Hire, Ejay

Come on guys, Think about it for a minute.  Do you really think the router
is failing, or is his downtime caused by the wan link?  HSRP won't
significantly increase your uptime if the wan link is failing and he has to
manually change his server's IP/default gateway to switch to the other link.

A diferent way to think of it...  If you had a car with no brakes and a
broken tail-light, which would you fix first?

-Ejay


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Run HSRP between the two cisco routers and then point your default gateway
to the VIP address.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco routers
and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i could
do the change automatically to the other active isp.
It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one of
my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp each
one, how to route accross the other good gateway.

Thnx in advance
Yassl




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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Hire, Ejay

Do not say that a 2500 will not work for BGP.  It will work just fine for a
default-only or partial-routes setup, and I'm sure more than one member of
this group has set it up.

-ejay

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chances are bgp will not be availablefirst..he has to have the address
space...second...if he didn't plan for it before hand, he's probably got a
couple'a 2500's or 2600's Try running bgp on a 2500. (unless of
course he uses the same isp for both connections and they work with him on
setting up redundancy)  But at that point he still would not have his own
asn for bgp...

-Patrick

>>> "sam sneed"  02/25/02 10:46AM >>>
You would want to use both HSRP and BGP in this case. HSRP will solve the
problem of changing the default gateway on the clients when a link fails.
BGP will be used for fault tolerance at the ISP side. Here is a sample doc I
got form the cisco site:

http://www.v-man.net/support/pdf/hsrp_bgp.pdf 

""Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay""  wrote in message
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> Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco
routers
> and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
> one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
> I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i
could
> do the change automatically to the other active isp.
> It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one
of
> my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
> So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp
each
> one, how to route accross the other good gateway.
>
> Thnx in advance
> Yassl
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RE: dialup mac address [7:36394]

2002-02-25 Thread Hire, Ejay

You can assign them a specific IP and/or privledges based on username using
radius.

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hey group

I've got a 3640 with a couple'a pri's and two modem banks... I want to give
vendors access to very specific servers through a firewall... (netscreen) 
My original thought was to place the vendor's mac address for it's dialup
adapter in dhcp and assign it the same ip every timethen base the ACL's
to each server on the vendor ip address...

All the searching I have done on the web say dialup adapters have generic
mac addresses, ie 44-45-53-54-00-00 ... How can I get the 3640 to dole out
specfic ip's to vendors?  How do isp's keep up with leases if this is the
case?

-Patrick


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RE: OSPF Point-to-Multipoint Non-Broadcast command [7:36402]

2002-02-25 Thread s vermill

Tim,

The default network type is NBMA for NBMA-type interfaces (e.g. frame relay)
and also for p-t-mp subinterfaces.

As for broadcast, this implies a fully meshed environment, which is
*logically* equivelant to a broadcast environment such as ethernet - 
assuming of course that information is duplicated to every recipient). 
Remember that a DR and BDR are elected in this type of environment just like
ethernet.

I have to look this stuff up every couple of months because it is pretty
confusing.  The terminology isn't exactly intuitive.

Scott

Tim Booth wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>   As I understand it, Frame-Relay is a NBMA technology. Why
> isn't it
> necessary to specify the non-broadcast command when configuring
> ip ospf
> network point-to-multipoint ? And for that
> matter, why
> does ip ospf network broadcast work with FR? This seems like an
> answer I
> should know...
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Tim Booth
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Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]

2002-02-25 Thread nrf

That's for damn sure.



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> cert you have.
>
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> nrf
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>
>
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> > Well in the good old days of the economy, I made more than that even
> before
> > becoming a CCNA.  I would never settle for 50k, even in this econ.,
>
> If you're just a CCNA and you won't settle for 50k now, well then you
might
> be out of work for some time - a very very long time.
>
>
> > especially as a CCIE.  Plus, a CCIE IMO should already have exp., and
lots
> > of it.  Otherwise it defeats the purpose of becoming a CCIE - cisco
> > certified internet EXPERT!
> >
> > --
> > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> >
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> > > A CCNA with little or no experience? Hardly. He's lucky to even land a
> job
> > > right now. I think this intern program is aimed at people new to the
> > field.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > >
> > >
> > > A CCNA makes more than 50k.  And you wouldn't have to pay your company
> to
> > > work for them and get training.  Most companies pay you and pay for
your
> > > training.
> > >
> > > --
> > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >
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intern
> > > > program works like this: you sign up for their CCIE program (which
is
> > not
> > > > cheap I should add) and when you pass your CCIE written/lab (I
vaguely
> > > > remember that the CCIE written pass is all you need), you can work
as
> a
> > > > subcontractor for ICTP. You make substantially   less money than a
> CCIE
> > is
> > > > "worth", (I believe around $50,000, don't quote me on that) but for
> > those
> > > > with little or no experience (i.e., people enrolling in this
program),
> > it
> > > > works out really well. Hopefully Mr. Lee could explain the program
> more
> > in
> > > > detail.
> > > >
> > > > - Sean
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps its a new look on recruiting, they train u, get a slice of
the
> > > > dough for awhile??  Just speculating of course..
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And upon finishing the program, how many years of slavery will we
> > > > > unfortunate ones be indebted to your gracious company? :-)
> > > > > Can you clarify this??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > >Reply-To: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Subject: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:40:20 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >My name is Jason Lee I currently work for ICTP located in anaheim
> > > > > >california
> > > > > >we are currently looking for few candidates to go through our
very
> > > > intense
> > > > > >cisco training, also to note that upon finishing the program CEA
> > (cisco
> > > > > >expert academy)you can be eligible for an internship... we have
> > > > information
> > > > > >session going on every other friday, so if this sounds
interesting
> to
> > > > you,
> > > > > >or if you need a lab to study for the ccie or ccnp please give me
a
> > > call.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Jason Lee
> > > > > >IT specialist
> > > > > >714-783-1083
> > > > > >www.ICTP.com
> > > > > _
> > > > > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
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RE: OSPF - Type 4 [7:36358]

2002-02-25 Thread Dusty Harper

By cisco default type 3 and 4 are flooded into the stub area

If you configure the area as stub no-summary, then the summary
routes are not flooded into the stub.  The stub only needs to know its
internal area routes, and can access everything else via the default
route 0.0.0.0.

The type 4 LSA advertises all ASBRs into other areas (unless the ASBR
exists in the area being flooded).  They point to the Router ID of the
ASBR(s).

-Original Message-
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Subject: OSPF - Type 4 [7:36358]

Hi all,
  
I was wondering what is the use of type 4 LSA
when the reachability to ASBR is possible using
the Type 3 LSA information.

Also I would like to know whether Type 4 is
flooded into a Stub area.

Can someone clarify.


Regards
-Venkat 

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RE: VoIP problem [7:36396]

2002-02-25 Thread Mark Odette II

Pat-
Question: Are both ends identical in Hardware and/or Software??  More
importantly, Are both routers running the same version of IOS?  I've seen
something very similar to this, and it wound up being a compound problem of
buggy version of IOS and a mixture of versions from end to end.

If you can, you might think about rolling back a little on the version of
IOS, to say, 12.2.1, or something like that but verify it won't break
some other feature you're depending on first.

Another wise action would be to go onto CCO and check their BugTraq to see
if they have any known issues with 12.2.4T.

Also, here's a tool that might help with the error message: Error message
Decoder Ring!  It requires CCO access.
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/Errordecoder/home.pl

Hope this helps!

Mark

-Original Message-
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Patrick Donlon
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: VoIP problem [7:36396]


Hi all

I've a problem with a voice router I'm getting DSP timeout errors on the far
end (egress) router and I was wondering if anyone has any ideas. See the
text below for the error, it appears after the call is disconnected with
"normal call clearing", we use E1s. A reboot will make the problem go away
for a short while and we using 12.2(4)T on a 3640. The call routing is fine
and I can make csim calls from the far end router to my local router and to
my phone no problem, in the other direction I get DSP timeouts.

Cheers

Pat

10w5d: %VTSP-3-DSP_TIMEOUT: DSP timeout on event 0x6: DSP ID=0x1: DSP Disc
(call mode=0)
10w5d: %VTSP-3-DSP_TIMEOUT: DSP timeout on event 0x6: DSP ID=0x1: DSP error
stats (call mode=1658181684), chnl info(1, 0, 0)




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Re: Fiber optic interface question [7:36366]

2002-02-25 Thread Rob Webber

I am not completely sure, but I do not believe these two cards will
interoperate. The PA-POS is a packet-over-Sonet module. Thus that box will
look to frame the layer 2 frames as POS frames - and it will use the entire
OC-3 for the one POS connection. The PA-A3 is an ATM module. It is looking
to fill it with ATM 53-byte ATM cells, and it is expecting to divide the
OC-3 bandwidth between whatever SVCs or PVCs have been created.

Just my thoughts - Rob.

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>   I am about to purchase a Fiber Optic Interface; because this kind of
> cards are pretty expensive I prefer to ask you in order do not buy the
wrong
> interface.
>   Can I connect this two cards: PA-POS-OC3SMI and PA-A3-OC3SMI?. We are
> going to use single mode fiber and it is Mid Range.
>
> Thanks in advanced.
>
> Alejandro Acosta




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Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]

2002-02-25 Thread Marc Maxwell

Well, I agree.  But the only thing I can do is try to remain optimistic.  I
relocated to the Bay area just prior to 9/11, the market wasn't great to
begin with but just got worse...*hopefully* with no more major
catastrophes,  consumer confidence and spending will grow...

As far as certs go, I am holding off getting some certs until I get the
required experience to back it up.  I am gauging it as I go.  It takes more
discipline this way but will be more rewarding in the long run and I will be
stronger for it I believe.



- Original Message -
From: "adam lee" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:58 PM
Subject: RE: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]


> Here in the Bay Area you might be unemployed for a long time no matter
what
> cert you have.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> nrf
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 3:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
>
>
> ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Well in the good old days of the economy, I made more than that even
> before
> > becoming a CCNA.  I would never settle for 50k, even in this econ.,
>
> If you're just a CCNA and you won't settle for 50k now, well then you
might
> be out of work for some time - a very very long time.
>
>
> > especially as a CCIE.  Plus, a CCIE IMO should already have exp., and
lots
> > of it.  Otherwise it defeats the purpose of becoming a CCIE - cisco
> > certified internet EXPERT!
> >
> > --
> > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> >
> > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > A CCNA with little or no experience? Hardly. He's lucky to even land a
> job
> > > right now. I think this intern program is aimed at people new to the
> > field.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > >
> > >
> > > A CCNA makes more than 50k.  And you wouldn't have to pay your company
> to
> > > work for them and get training.  Most companies pay you and pay for
your
> > > training.
> > >
> > > --
> > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >
> > > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I've taken some classes at ICTP. From what I gather, their CCIE
intern
> > > > program works like this: you sign up for their CCIE program (which
is
> > not
> > > > cheap I should add) and when you pass your CCIE written/lab (I
vaguely
> > > > remember that the CCIE written pass is all you need), you can work
as
> a
> > > > subcontractor for ICTP. You make substantially   less money than a
> CCIE
> > is
> > > > "worth", (I believe around $50,000, don't quote me on that) but for
> > those
> > > > with little or no experience (i.e., people enrolling in this
program),
> > it
> > > > works out really well. Hopefully Mr. Lee could explain the program
> more
> > in
> > > > detail.
> > > >
> > > > - Sean
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps its a new look on recruiting, they train u, get a slice of
the
> > > > dough for awhile??  Just speculating of course..
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And upon finishing the program, how many years of slavery will we
> > > > > unfortunate ones be indebted to your gracious company? :-)
> > > > > Can you clarify this??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > >Reply-To: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Subject: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:40:20 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >My name is Jason Lee I currently work for ICTP located in anaheim
> > > > > >california
> > > > > >we are currently looking for few candidates to go through our
very
> > > > intense
> > > > > >cisco training, also to note that upon finishing the program CEA
> > (cisco
> > > > > >expert academy)you can be eligible for an internship... we have
> > > > information
> > > > > >session going on every other friday, so if this sounds
interesting
> to
> > > > you,
> > > > > >or if you need a lab to study for the ccie or ccnp please give me
a
> > > call.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Jason Lee
> > > > > >IT specialist
> > > > > >714-783-1083
> > > > > >www.ICTP.com
> > > > > _
> > > > > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
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Re: dialup mac address [7:36394]

2002-02-25 Thread Mohannad Khuffash

Hello,
Without using any AAA server, you nac assign specific IP address by using
dialer pool .


Mohannad Khuffash
PalTel


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>
> I've got a 3640 with a couple'a pri's and two modem banks... I want to
give
> vendors access to very specific servers through a firewall... (netscreen)
> My original thought was to place the vendor's mac address for it's dialup
> adapter in dhcp and assign it the same ip every timethen base the
ACL's
> to each server on the vendor ip address...
>
> All the searching I have done on the web say dialup adapters have generic
> mac addresses, ie 44-45-53-54-00-00 ... How can I get the 3640 to dole out
> specfic ip's to vendors?  How do isp's keep up with leases if this is the
> case?
>
> -Patrick
>
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RE: Please help me answer this question [7:36295]

2002-02-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I think Answer C mentions just one site, not multiple sites. It could be 
done on a single router with a simple ACL that doesn't allow access to the 
host that has the software. So, C is right.

How would you do Answer A with a simple firewall system? If you can answer 
that, then I'll agree with you that A is right, but I bet you can't come up 
with a simple solution to the problem that needs to be solved in A.

And how about Answer B and D? What are your solutions to those problems? 
And are your solutions simple?

This is the sort of thinking that you need for CID. And it is real-world, 
by the way. Let's say that the people who will be implementing and 
maintaining the security system are just barely out of school or just 
recently got their CCNA. There are no software developers or senior network 
engineers to get the system working. A design requirement and priority in 
this case is simplicity.

Of course, "simplicity" is somewhat subjective, and that is a legitimate 
complaint about the question. But it's all relative. If test takers 
actually do the work required to envision actual solutions, they can easily 
determine which one is simplest.

If test takers try to memorize answers or determine answers without much 
analysis, not only will they find the test frustrating and possibly 
unpassable, they will suck as network designers, (to be blunt! ;-)

Priscilla

At 06:24 PM 2/23/02, Russ Kreigh wrote:
>I think A would be right, because C would not be a "simple" solution, ex.
>they would have to maintain a list of unauthorized sites.
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Love Cisco
>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:16 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Please help me answer this question [7:36295]
>
>
>1. Which of the following customers can probably meet their security
>requirements with a simple firewall system?
>A. Company ABC wants to make sure customers can see public marketing data
>but not proprietary sales figures.
>B. University ABC want to make sure students can see but not change their
>grades in administrative database.
>C. Company XYZ wants to make sure employees do not download software from
>unauthorized site.
>D. University XYZ wants to make sure that public central software developed
>at the university stops working after a period of time if the user does not
>pay shareware fees.
>=
>I think C is right. But some people think A.
>
>What do you think? Why?


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RE: dialup mac address [7:36394]

2002-02-25 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Can I assume secure ACS does this?

>>> "Hire, Ejay"  02/25/02 01:24PM >>>
You can assign them a specific IP and/or privledges based on username using
radius.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: dialup mac address [7:36394]


hey group

I've got a 3640 with a couple'a pri's and two modem banks... I want to give
vendors access to very specific servers through a firewall... (netscreen) 
My original thought was to place the vendor's mac address for it's dialup
adapter in dhcp and assign it the same ip every timethen base the ACL's
to each server on the vendor ip address...

All the searching I have done on the web say dialup adapters have generic
mac addresses, ie 44-45-53-54-00-00 ... How can I get the 3640 to dole out
specfic ip's to vendors?  How do isp's keep up with leases if this is the
case?

-Patrick


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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Schneider, Matt

2500 is BGP king

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Do not say that a 2500 will not work for BGP.  It will work just fine for a
default-only or partial-routes setup, and I'm sure more than one member of
this group has set it up.

-ejay

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chances are bgp will not be availablefirst..he has to have the address
space...second...if he didn't plan for it before hand, he's probably got a
couple'a 2500's or 2600's Try running bgp on a 2500. (unless of
course he uses the same isp for both connections and they work with him on
setting up redundancy)  But at that point he still would not have his own
asn for bgp...

-Patrick

>>> "sam sneed"  02/25/02 10:46AM >>>
You would want to use both HSRP and BGP in this case. HSRP will solve the
problem of changing the default gateway on the clients when a link fails.
BGP will be used for fault tolerance at the ISP side. Here is a sample doc I
got form the cisco site:

http://www.v-man.net/support/pdf/hsrp_bgp.pdf 

""Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay""  wrote in message
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> Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco
routers
> and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
> one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
> I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i
could
> do the change automatically to the other active isp.
> It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one
of
> my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
> So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp
each
> one, how to route accross the other good gateway.
>
> Thnx in advance
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CVPN 3005 and Movian [7:36419]

2002-02-25 Thread NetEng

I have setup my concentrator and movian software as it is on cisco's
website. When I try and login I get the error 'Duplicate first packet
detected!'. The only thing I can think of is that I'm inside my network and
am trying to access the concentrator on my DMZ. The regular Cisco client
works ok doing this, so I would think that this client would too?




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Re: How does repeater work? [7:36323]

2002-02-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

If you really read somewhere that a bridge is a multi-port repeater, trash 
that reference. ;-) Bridges (switches) solve different problems than 
repeaters (hubs).

The original repeaters had just two ports (in and out). These repeaters 
were implemented to allow one to get around the limitation that a single 
coaxial-based Ethernet segment could be only 500 meters (10Base5 or Thick 
Ethernet) or 185 meters (10Base2 or Thin Ethernet).

With a repeater you could connect a 500 meter segment to another 500 meter 
segment and not have a problem. The repeater amplified the signal so that 
the signal on one side propagated to the other side. The repeater repeated 
all bits. It didn't understand frames and worked with signals and bits.

Then the engineers figured out that these repeaters could connect more than 
just two segments, and along came the multiport repeater. The multiport 
repeater evolved into a HUB.

A bridge works at the next layer up. A bridge divides up collision domains 
and solves the over-utilization problem. Although it also solves distance 
restrictions, that's not its main intent. A bridge understands frames and 
hence can offer many features. The bridge evolved into a SWITCH.

Priscilla



At 05:34 AM 2/25/02, Kevin Cullimore wrote:
>The classical repeater as described in the first couple of chapters of
>nearly every networking/internetworking technologies survey is a little
>before my time, but here are some thoughts:
>
>-bridges are often described as multi-port repeaters, leaving the impression
>that mere repeaters have but a single port (please note, that the coinage
>described might involve distinguishing ingress from egress ports, but that's
>hardly clear to the uninitiated). I suppose that an argument might be made
>to lend legitimacy to the practice of contrasting the prefix multi with
>something other than a term specifically denoting "one" or "single", but I'm
>not sure how relevant that will turn out to be as time erodes those cases
>without corroborating evidence.
>
>-to the extent that the purpose of the repeater is to extend a LAN, one
>might picture a device with two cables (or other data-traversing-friendly
>media) attached: one connected to the original network, one connected to the
>extension. I'm honestly not sure how else it would function.
>
>-to the extent that the characterization i've provided is accurate, it might
>be useful to apply bridging concepts in order to discern the functionality
>of the repeater. A bridge accepts packets on a given port and, by charter,
>does NOT transmit replicas of those packets on the same (ingress) port. I
>therefore picture a repeater as a device that has 2 connections: one to the
>original network, one to the LAN extension. If this is the case, I would
>presume that the relevant functionality is to perpetuate packets received on
>one port to the other. If that is the case, the repeater cannot be said to
>create a loop. Note: if a loop already exists, the repeater would perpetuate
>that condition, by design.
>
>All: as I mentioned, repeaters ceased to be relevant before my time. If
>anyone knows differently about the topics I've alluded to, please post your
>dissenting statement.
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "mlh"
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 3:18 PM
>Subject: How does repeater work? [7:36323]
>
>
> > Could anybody tell me how repeaters work ? I don't understand how
repeater
> > can regenerate
> > the two-way signals from both segment connected to the repeater. Isn't it
> > forming a loop?
> > Pls forgive me asking the stupid question.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > mlh


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: Gateway/Network Address confusion [7:36400]

2002-02-25 Thread Chris Charlebois

OK, some terminology.  We've got physical networks.  They are bound by
routers.  Anytime a packet goes through a router, it is moving from one
physical network to another. Then you have a logical subnet.  This is what
actually gets addressed.  It is possible to have multiple logical subnets on
one physical network, although not recommended.  Each device can only
directly communicate with other members of the same logical subnet.  A
router would have to "translate" between the two logical subnets.

Now, in the scenario you described, you have two logical subnets on one
physical network (that's what the secondary address does).  Also, the two
logical subnets consume all your address space.

You mentioned partitioning off subnets for customers.  Does this mean each
customer gets a seperate physical network?  And do you need to provision
networks for WAN links?

Here would be one way to do it.  Take the .137.X network off the main router
(Call it R1).  Get a second router (R2) for this customer.  Setup a
point-to-point connection between the two.  Now, R1-E0 has an address of
63.142.136.1/24.  Assign R1-S0 to 63.142.137.1/30 and R2-S0 to
63.142.137.2/30.  This is the WAN connection.  Then on R2-E0, assign address
63.142.137.33/27.  The default gateway for the hosts on this network would
be 63.142.137.33 and the broadcast would be 63.142.137.63.  And on a correct
built network, the hosts (servers) never need to have route add commands.

Now if you are doing this all on one router, you just need to add a
secondary address of 63.142.137.33/27 (this would require you take off the
63.142.137.1/24 address first).  This creates a logical subnet on your
existing physical network.

I hope this made some sense to you.  If you have questions, I'll be lurking
around here somewhere.



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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.

Come on Track the Serial interface! Basic HSRP!

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


-Original Message-
From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:20 PM
To: 'Ladrach, Daniel E.'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Come on guys, Think about it for a minute.  Do you really think the router
is failing, or is his downtime caused by the wan link?  HSRP won't
significantly increase your uptime if the wan link is failing and he has to
manually change his server's IP/default gateway to switch to the other link.

A diferent way to think of it...  If you had a car with no brakes and a
broken tail-light, which would you fix first?

-Ejay


-Original Message-
From: Ladrach, Daniel E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Run HSRP between the two cisco routers and then point your default gateway
to the VIP address.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


-Original Message-
From: Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco routers
and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway of
one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i could
do the change automatically to the other active isp.
It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset one of
my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp each
one, how to route accross the other good gateway.

Thnx in advance
Yassl




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Serial interface problem [7:36423]

2002-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello all:

I have two Cisco 4000-M routers in my home lab with two serial ports on
each. S0 on Router 1 is connected to S0 on Router 2. S1 on Router 1 is
connected to S1 on Router 2. The problem is that the S1 to S1 link comes up
and stays up. The S0 to S0 link comes up but goes down in a few seconds. It
keeps going up and down in this way repeatedly. Could someone please shed
some light?

The routers are connected using DCE to DTE cross connect cables. The DCE
ends of both connections are on Router 2 and it providing clocking at 56000
bits per second. Encapsulation is HDLC although I have tried PPP with the
same problem. I have also tried changing the default keepalive settings on
both end on the S0 to SO link. The IOS is 12.1(12) on both. I have tried
12.1(10) with the same results. I have also tried changing the end where the
clocking is provided with no success. I have switched cables and serial
interface modules but the problem remains.

Config on Router 1:
interface Serial0
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface Serial1
 ip address 2.2.2.1 255.255.255.0
!
Log entries on Router 1:
Feb 25 17:59:41: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
changed state to up
Feb 25 18:00:01: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
changed state to down
Feb 25 18:00:11: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
changed state to up
Feb 25 18:00:31: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
changed state to down

SH IP INTERFACE BRIEF on Router 1:
Interface  IP-Address  OK? Method Status
Protocol
Serial01.1.1.1 YES NVRAM  up
down
Serial12.2.2.1 YES NVRAM  up
up 

R1#sh control serial 0
MK5 unit 0, NIM slot 1, NIM type code 7, NIM version 1
idb = 0x619DACBC, driver structure at 0x619E10C0, regaddr = 0x3C100300
IB at 0x400FB1CC: mode=0x0108, local_addr=0, remote_addr=0
N1=1524, N2=1, scaler=100, T1=1000, T3=2000, TP=1
buffer size 1524
DTE V.35 serial cable attached

DEBUG SERIAL INTERFACE on Router 1
Feb 25 18:26:31: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
changed state to down
Feb 25 18:26:40: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA104
Feb 25 18:26:40: MK5(0): DCD is up.
Feb 25 18:26:40: Serial0: HDLC myseq 16, mineseen 0*, yourseen 16, line up 
Feb 25 18:26:41: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
changed state to up
Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): New serial state = 0x8104
Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): DCD is up.
Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): Deasserting DTR 
Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): Deasserting DTR 
Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): Reset
Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): Asserting DTR 
Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): Deasserting LTST 
Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA105
Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): DCD is up.
Feb 25 18:26:50: Serial0: HDLC myseq 17, mineseen 0*, yourseen 17, line up 
Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA124
Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): DCD is up.
Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA13C
Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): DCD is down.
Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA134
Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): DCD is down.
Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA114
Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): DCD is down.
Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA104
Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): DCD is up.
Feb 25 18:27:00: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA104
Feb 25 18:27:00: MK5(0): DCD is up.
Feb 25 18:27:00: MK5(0): Deasserting DTR 
Feb 25 18:27:00: MK5(0): Deasserting DTR 
Feb 25 18:27:00: MK5(0): Reset
Feb 25 18:27:00: MK5(0): Asserting DTR 
Feb 25 18:27:00: MK5(0): Deasserting LTST 
Feb 25 18:27:00: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA105
Feb 25 18:27:00: MK5(0): DCD is up.
Feb 25 18:27:00: Serial0: HDLC myseq 18, mineseen 0*, yourseen 18, line down

Feb 25 18:27:01: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
changed state to down


Config on router 2:
interface Serial0
 ip address 1.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 clockrate 56000
!
interface Serial1
 ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
 clockrate 56000

Log entries on Router 2:
None

SH IP INTERFACE BRIEF on Router 2:
R2#sh ip int brief
Interface  IP-Address  OK? Method Status
Protocol
Serial01.1.1.2 YES NVRAM  up
down
Serial12.2.2.2 YES NVRAM  up
up  

R2#sh controller s 0
MK5 unit 0, NIM slot 0, NIM type code 7, NIM version 1
idb = 0x44A4, driver structure at 0xABDAB8, regaddr = 0x8000300
IB at 0x6006E64: mode=0x0108, local_addr=0, remote_addr=0
N1=1524, N2=1, scaler=100, T1=1000, T3=2000, TP=1
buffer size 1524
DCE V.35 serial cable attached, clockrate 56000

DEBUG SERIAL INTERFACE on Router 2:
Feb 25 18:30:25: Serial0: HDLC myseq 38, mineseen 0, yourseen 0, line down 
.Feb 25 18:30:26: Serial0: attempting to restart
.Feb 25 18:30:26: MK5(0): Deasserting DSR 
.Feb 25 18:30:26: MK5(0): Deasserting DSR 
.Feb 25 18:30:26: MK5(0): Reset
.Feb 25 18:30:26: MK5(0): Asserting DSR 
.Feb 25 18:30:26: MK5(0): Deasserting LTST 
.Feb 25 18

RE: OSPF - Type 4 [7:36358]

2002-02-25 Thread sohail mir

Type 3 LSA are advertised by all ABR.  Type 4 and 5 LSA are advertised by
ASBR. Type 4 is used to identify the ASBR and Type 5 is used to get
information from the ASBR.

Stub area blocks Type 4 and Type 5 LSA from propagating into that area. Also
Type 4 and Type 5 are not allowed to propagate
within the area also. This includes all redistributed segments.

MS


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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread John Neiberger

I'm not sure I understand your point.  Assume the following topology:

[R1] [R2]
   ||
   ||
   \--/
  |
  [HOST]

The two border routers are R1 and R2 and each have a connection to an
ISP.  HSRP is configured to track the WAN link.  The default gateway on
the host is the HSRP standby ip address.  If either WAN link goes down,
the relevant router--because it is tracking the WAN link--will notify
the other router that it is no longer eligible and the other router will
take over.

Why are you saying that the perceived uptime to the host would not
increase using this method?  As I see it, unless both links go down, the
downtime would be quite minimal.

Thanks,
John 

>>> "Hire, Ejay"  2/25/02 11:24:23 AM >>>
Come on guys, Think about it for a minute.  Do you really think the
router
is failing, or is his downtime caused by the wan link?  HSRP won't
significantly increase your uptime if the wan link is failing and he
has to
manually change his server's IP/default gateway to switch to the other
link.

A diferent way to think of it...  If you had a car with no brakes and
a
broken tail-light, which would you fix first?

-Ejay


-Original Message-
From: Ladrach, Daniel E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Run HSRP between the two cisco routers and then point your default
gateway
to the VIP address.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


-Original Message-
From: Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco
routers
and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway
of
one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i
could
do the change automatically to the other active isp.
It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset
one of
my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp
each
one, how to route accross the other good gateway.

Thnx in advance
Yassl




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RE: Cissps [7:36391]

2002-02-25 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler

As someone who has achieved both certs, I'd have to voice an objection to
the common myth that the CISSP is on the same level as the CCIE; it's not
even close.

The CISSP is well-known (it was listed in some rag as one of the top ten
certs to get this year), but it is entirely theory.  That in itself isn't
bad; but if I were looking to hire someone for a security position, I would
not hire someone who only had their CISSP; I would also be interested in
something
that certifies them on a particular platform (e.g. Checkpoint CCSE).

I agree with Godswill's statement though "If you can't beat them, join
them."
I see a lot more positions requiring a CISSP cert when doing US Gov't work;
but
it seems to be moving more into the mainstream.  I think it's kinda like the
CCNA
three or so years ago; not too many people had it so it was worth $$.  Now
that a lot
of people have the CCNA, it doesn't open as many doors as it used to (and
the $$ aren't
there either) - it won't be too long before the CISSP is in a similar boat;
then there will
be some other cert that everyone has to get...

You gotta love this industry :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Godswill Oletu
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cissps [7:36391]


Though it is a paper and ink certification, it seems to be the Security
certification most recruiters know off. If you can't beat them join them. I
have not seem any recruiter naming CSS1 or stuff like that, though that
might be because it is relatively new, however they do not even give the
CCNP+Security specialist good exposure.

Many also consider the CISSP as the security equavilant of CCIE, I really do
not seem the similarities or where both of them have a tie.

Enjoy.
Godswill Oletu

- Original Message -
From: Chris Sweeting
To:
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:52 AM
Subject: Cissps [7:36391]


> Is Cissp worth getting?
_
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com




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RE: Aironet 350 WAP Load Balancing [7:36399]

2002-02-25 Thread Jeffrey Reed

Assuming the WEP configuration is the same for both access points and all
clients:

-Using different 2.4Ghz channels will facilitate load balancing via two
different 11M channels (more bandwidth).
-Using the same channel will load balance within the same 11M channel.

All of this is done automatically.


Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.

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Maverick
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Aironet 350 WAP Load Balancing [7:36399]

Hi,

Quick question. If I have two Aironet 350 WAP in range of each other, do
they automatically load balance? Any configuration needed.

The release notes seems to imply that this is done automatically

thks

YK




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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Hire, Ejay

Because R1 and R2 are not connected to the same ISP, he has to change his IP
address to use the other connection. (because he isn't using BGP to announce
his netblock reachable through both connections).  HSRP can't change his IP.


I've been thinking about it, and there is a (scrapped together
junkyard-wars) way to make this work.  You can HSRP the two routers and have
the backup router NAT the other ISP's IP to a Ip that is valid for it's
connection.  This is a ugly solution, and only works for SMTP incoming mail
transfers from other servers. (because of DNS's MX record priority feature).
Another strike against it is if one of the links fails, all of the SMTP
sessions in Progress will drop, and the remote (sending) mail server will
have to re-initiate.

...
Isp1 - Ip Range 1.1.1.0/28 (0-15)
Isp2 - Ip Range 2.2.2.0/28 (0-15)
Mail server is configured for the ip of 1.1.1.2, with a default Gateway of
1.1.1.1
Both routers are a member of an HSRP group and listen on 1.1.1.1
R1 is the HSRP primary, tracks the serial link, and preempts.  
R2 is the HSRP backup, and preempts if r1's serial link fails.
R2's ethernet interface is IP nat inside, and the t1 interface is ip nat
outside.  R2 has a single static nat entry that translates 1.1.1.2 to
2.2.2.2..
ip nat inside source static 1.1.1.2 2.2.2.2
The DNS records are configured as follows
domain.com. MX  10  1.1.1.2
domain.com. MX  20  2.2.2.2

Now, Looking at all of the above and understanding that this doesn't fix
clients trying to connect to the server with POP3 or SMTP directly from
outlook or eudora...  Do you think this is a good solution? ... (no)  

BGP is the right answer to this customers needs.

Sadly, I know someone is going to look at this and start pushing it to
customers as a solution.  

-Ejay

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


I'm not sure I understand your point.  Assume the following topology:

[R1] [R2]
   ||
   ||
   \--/
  |
  [HOST]

The two border routers are R1 and R2 and each have a connection to an
ISP.  HSRP is configured to track the WAN link.  The default gateway on
the host is the HSRP standby ip address.  If either WAN link goes down,
the relevant router--because it is tracking the WAN link--will notify
the other router that it is no longer eligible and the other router will
take over.

Why are you saying that the perceived uptime to the host would not
increase using this method?  As I see it, unless both links go down, the
downtime would be quite minimal.

Thanks,
John 

>>> "Hire, Ejay"  2/25/02 11:24:23 AM >>>
Come on guys, Think about it for a minute.  Do you really think the
router
is failing, or is his downtime caused by the wan link?  HSRP won't
significantly increase your uptime if the wan link is failing and he
has to
manually change his server's IP/default gateway to switch to the other
link.

A diferent way to think of it...  If you had a car with no brakes and
a
broken tail-light, which would you fix first?

-Ejay


-Original Message-
From: Ladrach, Daniel E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Run HSRP between the two cisco routers and then point your default
gateway
to the VIP address.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


-Original Message-
From: Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco
routers
and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway
of
one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i
could
do the change automatically to the other active isp.
It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset
one of
my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp
each
one, how to route accross the other good gateway.

Thnx in advance
Yassl




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Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]

2002-02-25 Thread Steven A. Ridder

I'm more than a CCNA.  I was saying that back when I was a CCNA, I wouldn't
have settled for less than 50K.  But you did bring up the good point that in
this economy a CCNA wouldn't get a job at 50K.  I guess that it could be
true.

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> ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
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> > Well in the good old days of the economy, I made more than that even
> before
> > becoming a CCNA.  I would never settle for 50k, even in this econ.,
>
> If you're just a CCNA and you won't settle for 50k now, well then you
might
> be out of work for some time - a very very long time.
>
>
> > especially as a CCIE.  Plus, a CCIE IMO should already have exp., and
lots
> > of it.  Otherwise it defeats the purpose of becoming a CCIE - cisco
> > certified internet EXPERT!
> >
> > --
> > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> >
> > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > A CCNA with little or no experience? Hardly. He's lucky to even land a
> job
> > > right now. I think this intern program is aimed at people new to the
> > field.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > >
> > >
> > > A CCNA makes more than 50k.  And you wouldn't have to pay your company
> to
> > > work for them and get training.  Most companies pay you and pay for
your
> > > training.
> > >
> > > --
> > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >
> > > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I've taken some classes at ICTP. From what I gather, their CCIE
intern
> > > > program works like this: you sign up for their CCIE program (which
is
> > not
> > > > cheap I should add) and when you pass your CCIE written/lab (I
vaguely
> > > > remember that the CCIE written pass is all you need), you can work
as
> a
> > > > subcontractor for ICTP. You make substantially   less money than a
> CCIE
> > is
> > > > "worth", (I believe around $50,000, don't quote me on that) but for
> > those
> > > > with little or no experience (i.e., people enrolling in this
program),
> > it
> > > > works out really well. Hopefully Mr. Lee could explain the program
> more
> > in
> > > > detail.
> > > >
> > > > - Sean
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps its a new look on recruiting, they train u, get a slice of
the
> > > > dough for awhile??  Just speculating of course..
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And upon finishing the program, how many years of slavery will we
> > > > > unfortunate ones be indebted to your gracious company? :-)
> > > > > Can you clarify this??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > >Reply-To: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Subject: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:40:20 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >My name is Jason Lee I currently work for ICTP located in anaheim
> > > > > >california
> > > > > >we are currently looking for few candidates to go through our
very
> > > > intense
> > > > > >cisco training, also to note that upon finishing the program CEA
> > (cisco
> > > > > >expert academy)you can be eligible for an internship... we have
> > > > information
> > > > > >session going on every other friday, so if this sounds
interesting
> to
> > > > you,
> > > > > >or if you need a lab to study for the ccie or ccnp please give me
a
> > > call.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Jason Lee
> > > > > >IT specialist
> > > > > >714-783-1083
> > > > > >www.ICTP.com
> > > > > _
> > > > > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> > > > > http://www.hotmail.com




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Lab this Fri. in RTP [7:36365]

2002-02-25 Thread Richard Newman

Any last minute study suggestions. I've been through all the FatKid and
CCBoot Camp labs twice. There are a couple of areas where I'm shaky which
I'll be concentrating on. What should my focus be in this the last few days
of studing?

Richard




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RE: beta exams [7:36356]

2002-02-25 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

It is interesting that Cisco is doing beta's for the CCNP track, especially
when they've got such lousy exams out there like the CID 3.0 640-025. They
did the beta for that one long ago but nothing ever came of it. My guess is
that the CCNP question pool is such common knowledge at this time that Cisco
wants to update it. You've got all these braindump companies advertising
"real questions, real answers" so that practically anyone can get a CCNP
these days. So, maybe new questions will weed out some of the braindump
companies and prevent "everyone" from getting a CCNP! At least for a couple
of months, anyway!:-)

Shawn K.

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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: beta exams [7:36356]


don't 100% got your questions, but let me try it.  beta exams are usually
under this format, more questions with more time, and it will take longer to
give you the exam result; so, the current production ccnp exams still as is.
to me, reason of providing ccnp beta is interesting, perhaps cisco got
another poll of questions, i guess.

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> anybody given beta exams in here in the past?
> currently the ccnp track exams are in for beta.. today being the last 
> day. I was gonna take them when I read that results would be out only 
> after 8-12 weeks. 140 questions/3 hours. these exams are of a 
> different format too so chance of passing is reduced i guess. $50 is 
> the price.
>
> Or is it that cisco sees to it that a certain %age of people who give 
> these exams pass out? If its so, then chances for somebody 
> well-prepared are pretty good. somebody, please guide.
> thx.




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Re: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Rob Webber

I agree that this configuration - with HSRP and tracking - could work well
for connections that are initiaed outbound. You would not necessarily need
BGP. R1 could do an outbound NAT to whatever IP address space had been
assigned by ISP 1. R2 could do an outbound NAT to whatever IP address space
had been assigned by ISP 2. The return traffic would use the correct ISP
based on that address space - without any BGP.

However if you do need inbound connections - and chances are you do, BGP is
the most realistic way to do it.

BGP on 2500's is fine. If you are only taking the default route its probably
easier on the box than running OSPF.

Rob.

""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> I'm not sure I understand your point.  Assume the following topology:
>
> [R1] [R2]
>||
>||
>\--/
>   |
>   [HOST]
>
> The two border routers are R1 and R2 and each have a connection to an
> ISP.  HSRP is configured to track the WAN link.  The default gateway on
> the host is the HSRP standby ip address.  If either WAN link goes down,
> the relevant router--because it is tracking the WAN link--will notify
> the other router that it is no longer eligible and the other router will
> take over.
>
> Why are you saying that the perceived uptime to the host would not
> increase using this method?  As I see it, unless both links go down, the
> downtime would be quite minimal.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> >>> "Hire, Ejay"  2/25/02 11:24:23 AM >>>
> Come on guys, Think about it for a minute.  Do you really think the
> router
> is failing, or is his downtime caused by the wan link?  HSRP won't
> significantly increase your uptime if the wan link is failing and he
> has to
> manually change his server's IP/default gateway to switch to the other
> link.
>
> A diferent way to think of it...  If you had a car with no brakes and
> a
> broken tail-light, which would you fix first?
>
> -Ejay
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ladrach, Daniel E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]
>
>
> Run HSRP between the two cisco routers and then point your default
> gateway
> to the VIP address.
>
> Daniel Ladrach
> CCNA, CCNP
> WorldCom
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]
>
>
> Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco
> routers
> and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway
> of
> one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
> I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i
> could
> do the change automatically to the other active isp.
> It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset
> one of
> my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
> So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp
> each
> one, how to route accross the other good gateway.
>
> Thnx in advance
> Yassl




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RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread John Neiberger

Gotcha, I was misunderstanding your point.  You do make a good point.  I
once considered HSRP for something like this but changed my mind for
this exact reason.  We then thought about buying a device from either
FatPipe or Radware, but then we ended up using BGP on all of our border
routers instead of on just two of them.

John

>>> "Hire, Ejay"  2/25/02 1:15:58 PM >>>
Because R1 and R2 are not connected to the same ISP, he has to change
his IP
address to use the other connection. (because he isn't using BGP to
announce
his netblock reachable through both connections).  HSRP can't change
his IP.


I've been thinking about it, and there is a (scrapped together
junkyard-wars) way to make this work.  You can HSRP the two routers and
have
the backup router NAT the other ISP's IP to a Ip that is valid for
it's
connection.  This is a ugly solution, and only works for SMTP incoming
mail
transfers from other servers. (because of DNS's MX record priority
feature).
Another strike against it is if one of the links fails, all of the
SMTP
sessions in Progress will drop, and the remote (sending) mail server
will
have to re-initiate.

...
Isp1 - Ip Range 1.1.1.0/28 (0-15)
Isp2 - Ip Range 2.2.2.0/28 (0-15)
Mail server is configured for the ip of 1.1.1.2, with a default Gateway
of
1.1.1.1
Both routers are a member of an HSRP group and listen on 1.1.1.1
R1 is the HSRP primary, tracks the serial link, and preempts.  
R2 is the HSRP backup, and preempts if r1's serial link fails.
R2's ethernet interface is IP nat inside, and the t1 interface is ip
nat
outside.  R2 has a single static nat entry that translates 1.1.1.2 to
2.2.2.2..
ip nat inside source static 1.1.1.2 2.2.2.2
The DNS records are configured as follows
domain.com. MX  10  1.1.1.2
domain.com. MX  20  2.2.2.2

Now, Looking at all of the above and understanding that this doesn't
fix
clients trying to connect to the server with POP3 or SMTP directly
from
outlook or eudora...  Do you think this is a good solution? ... (no)  

BGP is the right answer to this customers needs.

Sadly, I know someone is going to look at this and start pushing it to
customers as a solution.  

-Ejay

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


I'm not sure I understand your point.  Assume the following topology:

[R1] [R2]
   ||
   ||
   \--/
  |
  [HOST]

The two border routers are R1 and R2 and each have a connection to an
ISP.  HSRP is configured to track the WAN link.  The default gateway
on
the host is the HSRP standby ip address.  If either WAN link goes
down,
the relevant router--because it is tracking the WAN link--will notify
the other router that it is no longer eligible and the other router
will
take over.

Why are you saying that the perceived uptime to the host would not
increase using this method?  As I see it, unless both links go down,
the
downtime would be quite minimal.

Thanks,
John 

>>> "Hire, Ejay"  2/25/02 11:24:23 AM >>>
Come on guys, Think about it for a minute.  Do you really think the
router
is failing, or is his downtime caused by the wan link?  HSRP won't
significantly increase your uptime if the wan link is failing and he
has to
manually change his server's IP/default gateway to switch to the other
link.

A diferent way to think of it...  If you had a car with no brakes and
a
broken tail-light, which would you fix first?

-Ejay


-Original Message-
From: Ladrach, Daniel E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Run HSRP between the two cisco routers and then point your default
gateway
to the VIP address.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


-Original Message-
From: Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco
routers
and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the
gateway
of
one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i
could
do the change automatically to the other active isp.
It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset
one of
my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp
each
one, how to route accross the other good gateway.

Thnx in advance
Yassl




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Re

standby int bri0 - Not working? [7:36433]

2002-02-25 Thread Cisco Nuts

Hello,

I have 2 routers Remote and Central connected by 56k links and also isdn 
bri(Lab enviroment)

On Remote, I have the standby command with delay for 5 5 configed. When I 
shut the serial intf. on Remote, the bri does not come up.
But when I shut down the corresponding serial on the Central router, the bri 
does come up on Remote and pings work!!

Just curious as to if this only works the way it is working now or should it 
also work if I shut off the intf. on the Remote router.

Thank you.


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Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]

2002-02-25 Thread ko haag

I can remember in the old days when experience was more important than certs
and having
certs was a plus.

Ko

"Steven A. Ridder" wrote:

> I'm more than a CCNA.  I was saying that back when I was a CCNA, I wouldn't
> have settled for less than 50K.  But you did bring up the good point that
in
> this economy a CCNA wouldn't get a job at 50K.  I guess that it could be
> true.
>
> --
> RFC 1149 Compliant.
>
> ""nrf""  wrote in message
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> > ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
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> > > Well in the good old days of the economy, I made more than that even
> > before
> > > becoming a CCNA.  I would never settle for 50k, even in this econ.,
> >
> > If you're just a CCNA and you won't settle for 50k now, well then you
> might
> > be out of work for some time - a very very long time.
> >
> >
> > > especially as a CCIE.  Plus, a CCIE IMO should already have exp., and
> lots
> > > of it.  Otherwise it defeats the purpose of becoming a CCIE - cisco
> > > certified internet EXPERT!
> > >
> > > --
> > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >
> > > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > A CCNA with little or no experience? Hardly. He's lucky to even land
a
> > job
> > > > right now. I think this intern program is aimed at people new to the
> > > field.
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A CCNA makes more than 50k.  And you wouldn't have to pay your
company
> > to
> > > > work for them and get training.  Most companies pay you and pay for
> your
> > > > training.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > > >
> > > > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > I've taken some classes at ICTP. From what I gather, their CCIE
> intern
> > > > > program works like this: you sign up for their CCIE program (which
> is
> > > not
> > > > > cheap I should add) and when you pass your CCIE written/lab (I
> vaguely
> > > > > remember that the CCIE written pass is all you need), you can work
> as
> > a
> > > > > subcontractor for ICTP. You make substantially   less money than a
> > CCIE
> > > is
> > > > > "worth", (I believe around $50,000, don't quote me on that) but for
> > > those
> > > > > with little or no experience (i.e., people enrolling in this
> program),
> > > it
> > > > > works out really well. Hopefully Mr. Lee could explain the program
> > more
> > > in
> > > > > detail.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Sean
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps its a new look on recruiting, they train u, get a slice of
> the
> > > > > dough for awhile??  Just speculating of course..
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And upon finishing the program, how many years of slavery will we
> > > > > > unfortunate ones be indebted to your gracious company? :-)
> > > > > > Can you clarify this??
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > > >Reply-To: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > >Subject: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:40:20 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >My name is Jason Lee I currently work for ICTP located in
anaheim
> > > > > > >california
> > > > > > >we are currently looking for few candidates to go through our
> very
> > > > > intense
> > > > > > >cisco training, also to note that upon finishing the program CEA
> > > (cisco
> > > > > > >expert academy)you can be eligible for an internship... we have
> > > > > information
> > > > > > >session going on every other friday, so if this sounds
> interesting
> > to
> > > > > you,
> > > > > > >or if you need a lab to study for the ccie or ccnp please give
me
> a
> > > > call.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Jason Lee
> > > > > > >IT specialist
> > > > > > >714-783-1083
> > > > > > >www.ICTP.com
> > > > > > _
> > > > > > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> > > > > > http://www.hotmail.com




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Re: Lab this Fri. in RTP [7:36365]

2002-02-25 Thread Chuck

there's still time.

1) redistribution between any two routing protocols over any topology.

2) route filtering - there is more than one way

3) there is a topic that may be NDA if I say anything specific, but for
which there is a specific CCNP test, and which if you read this and/or the
CCIE list you see all kinds of questions, complaints, concerns.

4) there is one very important topic, but I don't want to say it directly
because I believe it crosses the NDA line. It has been discussed many times
here and over on the CCIE lab list. hope you have covered it. you may want
to check the archives of both lists to see what kinds of things are covered.

Knock 'em dead, pal!

Chuck



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> CCBoot Camp labs twice. There are a couple of areas where I'm shaky which
> I'll be concentrating on. What should my focus be in this the last few
days
> of studing?
>
> Richard




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Re: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]

2002-02-25 Thread Charles Manafa

This solution assumes that the subnet is routable by both providers. If this
is the case, then HSRP is by far the easiest solution.

CM

- Original Message -
From: "John Neiberger" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]


> I'm not sure I understand your point.  Assume the following topology:
>
> [R1] [R2]
>||
>||
>\--/
>   |
>   [HOST]
>
> The two border routers are R1 and R2 and each have a connection to an
> ISP.  HSRP is configured to track the WAN link.  The default gateway on
> the host is the HSRP standby ip address.  If either WAN link goes down,
> the relevant router--because it is tracking the WAN link--will notify
> the other router that it is no longer eligible and the other router will
> take over.
>
> Why are you saying that the perceived uptime to the host would not
> increase using this method?  As I see it, unless both links go down, the
> downtime would be quite minimal.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> >>> "Hire, Ejay"  2/25/02 11:24:23 AM >>>
> Come on guys, Think about it for a minute.  Do you really think the
> router
> is failing, or is his downtime caused by the wan link?  HSRP won't
> significantly increase your uptime if the wan link is failing and he
> has to
> manually change his server's IP/default gateway to switch to the other
> link.
>
> A diferent way to think of it...  If you had a car with no brakes and
> a
> broken tail-light, which would you fix first?
>
> -Ejay
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ladrach, Daniel E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]
>
>
> Run HSRP between the two cisco routers and then point your default
> gateway
> to the VIP address.
>
> Daniel Ladrach
> CCNA, CCNP
> WorldCom
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yassel Omar Izquierdo Souchay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: TWO ISP AND ONE FAILURE [7:36371]
>
>
> Hello i have a frecuent porblem with one of my isp, i have two cisco
> routers
> and each one to different isp. Frequentily i have to change the gateway
> of
> one of my servers, because one isp is failure.
> I want to know if with one of BGP, OSPF, RIP, NAT or other protocol i
> could
> do the change automatically to the other active isp.
> It happening me right now. And when i have to do that i have to reset
> one of
> my servers.. :S. Is a costs operatrion its a mail server.
> So if somebody knows how to resolve between routers with different isp
> each
> one, how to route accross the other good gateway.
>
> Thnx in advance
> Yassl




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RE: Gateway/Network Address confusion [7:36400]

2002-02-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>OK, some terminology.  We've got physical networks.  They are bound by
>routers.  Anytime a packet goes through a router, it is moving from one
>physical network to another. Then you have a logical subnet.  This is what
>actually gets addressed.  It is possible to have multiple logical subnets on
>one physical network, although not recommended.  Each device can only
>directly communicate with other members of the same logical subnet.  A
>router would have to "translate" between the two logical subnets.
>
>Now, in the scenario you described, you have two logical subnets on one
>physical network (that's what the secondary address does).  Also, the two
>logical subnets consume all your address space.

How many illogical subnets share the physical place where Dilbert works? :-)




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RE: standby int bri0 - Not working? [7:36433]

2002-02-25 Thread Nnanna Obuba

It's working 'as advertised'

Nnanna

PS if u issue the command 'no keepalive' on your serial interface, the bri
should kick in

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Hello,

I have 2 routers Remote and Central connected by 56k links and also isdn
bri(Lab enviroment)

On Remote, I have the standby command with delay for 5 5 configed. When I
shut the serial intf. on Remote, the bri does not come up.
But when I shut down the corresponding serial on the Central router, the bri
does come up on Remote and pings work!!

Just curious as to if this only works the way it is working now or should it
also work if I shut off the intf. on the Remote router.

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Re: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]

2002-02-25 Thread Bruce Evry

Dear Kevin and Everyone Else,

Afraid I got caught in a time warp, the message got posted a day
after the meeting. Oh well

We will try once again - This coming Saturday, March 2, 2002.
Time: Noon to 4 PM.
Place: Bruce's House (under construction...)
1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, Maryland 20744

Howard Berkowitz may be making a special guest appearance and we
may get to log into 2 remote CCIE Labs to finally answer the question of
what is the WORST possible way to redistribute OSPF and IGRP!

Everyone is invited. Our group is informal and there are no fees,
dues, or secret handshakes to learn. All you need is an interest in Cisco.
(of course bringing snacks and sodas is always encouraged!)

Bring laptops and gear if you have them. If not bring yourself!

Do try and let me know how many people are coming so I can get an
appropriate amount of food. (my treat but donations are accepted)

Yours Truly - Bruce Evry



On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Kevin Wigle wrote:

> guess you didn't want a big turn out since I see it says sent
> Sunday, 24 Feb
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Evry" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, 24 February, 2002 10:57
> Subject: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]
>
>
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > After taking the month of January off, we are going to hold the
> > next meeting/luncheon of the Washington DC group this coming Saturday.
> >
> > Saturday, February 23, 2002
> > Time 10 am to 4 pm
> > Place - Bruce's House with newly rebuilt Garage!
> > 1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, MD 20744
> >
> > Please bring Laptops, Snacks, Sodas, Desserts and of course
> > Routers and Switches.
> >
> > This session we will be doing OSPF and IGRP redistribution the
> > hard way. Figure it's about time we kill this thing and nail down the lid
> > to its coffin... :)
> >
> > Speaking of learning Cisco stuff, I want to thank all of you who
> > sent such nice replies to my question about affordable training.
> >
> > I would like to offer interested folks the chance to come visit us
> > here at my house for a week and to do total-immersion Cisco Study. This
> > will be geared toward the CCIE Practical Lab.
> >
> > Monday will be about designing your very own lab. Then on Tuesday
> > through Friday you get to build your lab! (and try others as well)
> >
> > Topics covered will include Ethernet, Token Ring, Frame Relay, ISDN, ATM,
> > Voice, along with all our favorite routing protocols, RIP, IGRP, EIGRP,
> > OSPF, and BGP.  Bonus extras include NAT, PAT, HSRP, HTTP, NTP, SMTP, and
> > FOOD!
> >
> > This offer includes room and board for those of you who are out of
> > town. Please contact me for details and pricing. (it'll be reasonable!)
> >
> > Home Phone 301-292-5231
> > Cell Phone 202-262-5324
> > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Yours Truly - Bruce Evry




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Re: standby int bri0 - Not working? [7:36433]

2002-02-25 Thread

It only works when you shutdown the link that does not have the backup 
interface command.  If you disconnect the cable on either router then the 
backup link will come up.  See the first paragraph of the link below.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/129/bri-back-dp.html#TS



>From: "Cisco Nuts" 
>Reply-To: "Cisco Nuts" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: standby int bri0 - Not working? [7:36433]
>Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:44:40 -0500
>
>Hello,
>
>I have 2 routers Remote and Central connected by 56k links and also isdn
>bri(Lab enviroment)
>
>On Remote, I have the standby command with delay for 5 5 configed. When I
>shut the serial intf. on Remote, the bri does not come up.
>But when I shut down the corresponding serial on the Central router, the 
>bri
>does come up on Remote and pings work!!
>
>Just curious as to if this only works the way it is working now or should 
>it
>also work if I shut off the intf. on the Remote router.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
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RE: How does repeater work? [7:36323]

2002-02-25 Thread Brian Zeitz

Sounds like an A+ or Network+ questions to me. But since you ask, check
out www.howstuffworks.com They also have how a cable modem works, DSL,
and even how routers work.




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Re: Serial interface problem [7:36423]

2002-02-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

You are getting very strange results indeed, but what you're tying to do is 
somewhat strange too. It seems that you are tying to get two parallel 
serial links to work:

R1 s0 - s0 R2
R1 s1 - s1 R2

Are you sure that both 4000M routers support two active serial interfaces?

I would start by simplifying the tests.

Does this work?

R1 s0 - s0 R2

If yes, using the exact same cable, see if this works:

R1 s1 - s1 R2

How about this (with the exact same cable):

R1 s0 -- s1 R2

And this:

R1 s1 -- s0 R2

OK, now try all these tests with the other cable. Do they fail? It sure 
seems like it could be a bad cable, although you said you swapped cables...

Once you confirm that single links work, then try the parallel links. If 
they don't work, at least you have some data as to what causes the problem.

My suspicion is that you'll have a problem even on a single link though. 
I'm suspicious of Router 2's Serial 0's receive capabilities.

You say that on Router 1 you're seeing: Serial0: HDLC myseq 18, mineseen 
0*, yourseen 18, line down. This indicates that Router 1 is sending 
keepalives (or at least thinks that it is.) But Router 1 is not seeing ACKs 
from Router 2. Router 1 is seeing (or at least at one point saw) 18 
keepalives from Router 2. So Router 2 can transmit. Maybe Router 2 can't 
receive though, which would explain it's not ACKing.

On Router 2, you're seeing: Serial0: HDLC myseq 42, mineseen 0, yourseen 0, 
line down. This indicates that Router 2 is transmitting keepalives (or at 
least thinks that it is). But Router 2 is not seeing ACKs or keepalives 
from the other side. Could Router 2's Serial 0 interface be bad (unable to 
receive?) A bad cable could also cause this problem.

Sorry, I can't give you more advice. Please let us know what you find out. 
Thanks.

Priscilla

At 02:33 PM 2/25/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello all:
>
>I have two Cisco 4000-M routers in my home lab with two serial ports on
>each. S0 on Router 1 is connected to S0 on Router 2. S1 on Router 1 is
>connected to S1 on Router 2. The problem is that the S1 to S1 link comes up
>and stays up. The S0 to S0 link comes up but goes down in a few seconds. It
>keeps going up and down in this way repeatedly. Could someone please shed
>some light?
>
>The routers are connected using DCE to DTE cross connect cables. The DCE
>ends of both connections are on Router 2 and it providing clocking at 56000
>bits per second. Encapsulation is HDLC although I have tried PPP with the
>same problem. I have also tried changing the default keepalive settings on
>both end on the S0 to SO link. The IOS is 12.1(12) on both. I have tried
>12.1(10) with the same results. I have also tried changing the end where the
>clocking is provided with no success. I have switched cables and serial
>interface modules but the problem remains.
>
>Config on Router 1:
>interface Serial0
>  ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
>!
>interface Serial1
>  ip address 2.2.2.1 255.255.255.0
>!
>Log entries on Router 1:
>Feb 25 17:59:41: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
>changed state to up
>Feb 25 18:00:01: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
>changed state to down
>Feb 25 18:00:11: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
>changed state to up
>Feb 25 18:00:31: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
>changed state to down
>
>SH IP INTERFACE BRIEF on Router 1:
>Interface  IP-Address  OK? Method Status
>Protocol
>Serial01.1.1.1 YES NVRAM  up
>down
>Serial12.2.2.1 YES NVRAM  up
>up
>
>R1#sh control serial 0
>MK5 unit 0, NIM slot 1, NIM type code 7, NIM version 1
>idb = 0x619DACBC, driver structure at 0x619E10C0, regaddr = 0x3C100300
>IB at 0x400FB1CC: mode=0x0108, local_addr=0, remote_addr=0
>N1=1524, N2=1, scaler=100, T1=1000, T3=2000, TP=1
>buffer size 1524
>DTE V.35 serial cable attached
>
>DEBUG SERIAL INTERFACE on Router 1
>Feb 25 18:26:31: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
>changed state to down
>Feb 25 18:26:40: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA104
>Feb 25 18:26:40: MK5(0): DCD is up.
>Feb 25 18:26:40: Serial0: HDLC myseq 16, mineseen 0*, yourseen 16, line up
>Feb 25 18:26:41: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0,
>changed state to up
>Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): New serial state = 0x8104
>Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): DCD is up.
>Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): Deasserting DTR
>Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): Deasserting DTR
>Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): Reset
>Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): Asserting DTR
>Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): Deasserting LTST
>Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA105
>Feb 25 18:26:50: MK5(0): DCD is up.
>Feb 25 18:26:50: Serial0: HDLC myseq 17, mineseen 0*, yourseen 17, line up
>Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA124
>Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): DCD is up.
>Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): New serial state = 0xA13C
>Feb 25 18:26:56: MK5(0): DCD is down.
>Feb 2

Re: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]

2002-02-25 Thread John Neiberger

If Howard is going to be at the meeting, then everyone attending must be
asked the following questions to gain entrance:

1.  What is your name?
2.  What is your quest?
3.  What is your favorite color??   :-)

>>> "Bruce Evry"  2/25/02 3:51:53 PM >>>
Dear Kevin and Everyone Else,

Afraid I got caught in a time warp, the message got posted a
day
after the meeting. Oh well

We will try once again - This coming Saturday, March 2, 2002.
Time: Noon to 4 PM.
Place: Bruce's House (under construction...)
1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, Maryland 20744

Howard Berkowitz may be making a special guest appearance and
we
may get to log into 2 remote CCIE Labs to finally answer the question
of
what is the WORST possible way to redistribute OSPF and IGRP!

Everyone is invited. Our group is informal and there are no
fees,
dues, or secret handshakes to learn. All you need is an interest in
Cisco.
(of course bringing snacks and sodas is always encouraged!)

Bring laptops and gear if you have them. If not bring yourself!

Do try and let me know how many people are coming so I can get
an
appropriate amount of food. (my treat but donations are accepted)

Yours Truly - Bruce Evry



On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Kevin Wigle wrote:

> guess you didn't want a big turn out since I see it says
sent
> Sunday, 24 Feb
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Evry" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, 24 February, 2002 10:57
> Subject: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]
>
>
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > After taking the month of January off, we are going to hold the
> > next meeting/luncheon of the Washington DC group this coming
Saturday.
> >
> > Saturday, February 23, 2002
> > Time 10 am to 4 pm
> > Place - Bruce's House with newly rebuilt Garage!
> > 1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, MD 20744
> >
> > Please bring Laptops, Snacks, Sodas, Desserts and of course
> > Routers and Switches.
> >
> > This session we will be doing OSPF and IGRP redistribution the
> > hard way. Figure it's about time we kill this thing and nail down
the lid
> > to its coffin... :)
> >
> > Speaking of learning Cisco stuff, I want to thank all of you who
> > sent such nice replies to my question about affordable training.
> >
> > I would like to offer interested folks the chance to come visit us
> > here at my house for a week and to do total-immersion Cisco Study.
This
> > will be geared toward the CCIE Practical Lab.
> >
> > Monday will be about designing your very own lab. Then on Tuesday
> > through Friday you get to build your lab! (and try others as well)
> >
> > Topics covered will include Ethernet, Token Ring, Frame Relay,
ISDN, ATM,
> > Voice, along with all our favorite routing protocols, RIP, IGRP,
EIGRP,
> > OSPF, and BGP.  Bonus extras include NAT, PAT, HSRP, HTTP, NTP,
SMTP, and
> > FOOD!
> >
> > This offer includes room and board for those of you who are out of
> > town. Please contact me for details and pricing. (it'll be
reasonable!)
> >
> > Home Phone 301-292-5231
> > Cell Phone 202-262-5324
> > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> > Yours Truly - Bruce Evry




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Re: How does repeater work? [7:36323]

2002-02-25 Thread Kevin Cullimore

My late-night-not-enough-sleep mistake. Sorry. Thanks to you and others for
pointing out the inaccuracies. It's still confusing to contrast repeater
with the prefix multi.
- Original Message -
From: "mlh" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: How does repeater work? [7:36323]


> I cannot agree that bridges are often described as multi-port repeaters.
> Actually, hubs are multi-port repeaters.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Cullimore"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:34 AM
> Subject: Re: How does repeater work? [7:36323]
>
>
> > The classical repeater as described in the first couple of chapters of
> > nearly every networking/internetworking technologies survey is a little
> > before my time, but here are some thoughts:
> >
> > -bridges are often described as multi-port repeaters, leaving the
> impression
> > that mere repeaters have but a single port (please note, that the
coinage
> > described might involve distinguishing ingress from egress ports, but
> that's
> > hardly clear to the uninitiated). I suppose that an argument might be
made
> > to lend legitimacy to the practice of contrasting the prefix multi with
> > something other than a term specifically denoting "one" or "single", but
> I'm
> > not sure how relevant that will turn out to be as time erodes those
cases
> > without corroborating evidence.
> >
> > -to the extent that the purpose of the repeater is to extend a LAN, one
> > might picture a device with two cables (or other
data-traversing-friendly
> > media) attached: one connected to the original network, one connected to
> the
> > extension. I'm honestly not sure how else it would function.
> >
> > -to the extent that the characterization i've provided is accurate, it
> might
> > be useful to apply bridging concepts in order to discern the
functionality
> > of the repeater. A bridge accepts packets on a given port and, by
charter,
> > does NOT transmit replicas of those packets on the same (ingress) port.
I
> > therefore picture a repeater as a device that has 2 connections: one to
> the
> > original network, one to the LAN extension. If this is the case, I would
> > presume that the relevant functionality is to perpetuate packets
received
> on
> > one port to the other. If that is the case, the repeater cannot be said
to
> > create a loop. Note: if a loop already exists, the repeater would
> perpetuate
> > that condition, by design.
> >
> > All: as I mentioned, repeaters ceased to be relevant before my time. If
> > anyone knows differently about the topics I've alluded to, please post
> your
> > dissenting statement.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "mlh"
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 3:18 PM
> > Subject: How does repeater work? [7:36323]
> >
> >
> > > Could anybody tell me how repeaters work ? I don't understand how
> repeater
> > > can regenerate
> > > the two-way signals from both segment connected to the repeater. Isn't
> it
> > > forming a loop?
> > > Pls forgive me asking the stupid question.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > mlh




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RE: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]

2002-02-25 Thread adam lee

I think the experience thing is the way to go.  The market will get better
sooner or later.  I read something yesterday that stated the BA will lag
behind the rest of the country in recovering from the recession.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Marc Maxwell
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]


Well, I agree.  But the only thing I can do is try to remain optimistic.  I
relocated to the Bay area just prior to 9/11, the market wasn't great to
begin with but just got worse...*hopefully* with no more major
catastrophes,  consumer confidence and spending will grow...

As far as certs go, I am holding off getting some certs until I get the
required experience to back it up.  I am gauging it as I go.  It takes more
discipline this way but will be more rewarding in the long run and I will be
stronger for it I believe.



- Original Message -
From: "adam lee"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:58 PM
Subject: RE: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]


> Here in the Bay Area you might be unemployed for a long time no matter
what
> cert you have.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> nrf
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 3:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
>
>
> ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Well in the good old days of the economy, I made more than that even
> before
> > becoming a CCNA.  I would never settle for 50k, even in this econ.,
>
> If you're just a CCNA and you won't settle for 50k now, well then you
might
> be out of work for some time - a very very long time.
>
>
> > especially as a CCIE.  Plus, a CCIE IMO should already have exp., and
lots
> > of it.  Otherwise it defeats the purpose of becoming a CCIE - cisco
> > certified internet EXPERT!
> >
> > --
> > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> >
> > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > A CCNA with little or no experience? Hardly. He's lucky to even land a
> job
> > > right now. I think this intern program is aimed at people new to the
> > field.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > >
> > >
> > > A CCNA makes more than 50k.  And you wouldn't have to pay your company
> to
> > > work for them and get training.  Most companies pay you and pay for
your
> > > training.
> > >
> > > --
> > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >
> > > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I've taken some classes at ICTP. From what I gather, their CCIE
intern
> > > > program works like this: you sign up for their CCIE program (which
is
> > not
> > > > cheap I should add) and when you pass your CCIE written/lab (I
vaguely
> > > > remember that the CCIE written pass is all you need), you can work
as
> a
> > > > subcontractor for ICTP. You make substantially   less money than a
> CCIE
> > is
> > > > "worth", (I believe around $50,000, don't quote me on that) but for
> > those
> > > > with little or no experience (i.e., people enrolling in this
program),
> > it
> > > > works out really well. Hopefully Mr. Lee could explain the program
> more
> > in
> > > > detail.
> > > >
> > > > - Sean
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps its a new look on recruiting, they train u, get a slice of
the
> > > > dough for awhile??  Just speculating of course..
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And upon finishing the program, how many years of slavery will we
> > > > > unfortunate ones be indebted to your gracious company? :-)
> > > > > Can you clarify this??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > >Reply-To: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Subject: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:40:20 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >My name is Jason Lee I currently work for ICTP located in anaheim
> > > > > >california
> > > > > >we are currently looking for few candidates to go through our
very
> > > > intense
> > > > > >cisco training, also to note that upon finishing the program CEA
> > (cisco
> > > > > >expert academy)you can be eligible for an internship... we have
> > > > information
> > > > > >session going on every other friday, so if this sounds
interesting
> to
> > > > you,
> > > > > >or if you need a lab to study fo

Re: Lab this Fri. in RTP [7:36365]

2002-02-25 Thread Steven A. Ridder

As for route filtering, I can only think of distribute lists and wacky
offset lists.  Are there others?

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""Chuck""  wrote in message
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> there's still time.
>
> 1) redistribution between any two routing protocols over any topology.
>
> 2) route filtering - there is more than one way
>
> 3) there is a topic that may be NDA if I say anything specific, but for
> which there is a specific CCNP test, and which if you read this and/or the
> CCIE list you see all kinds of questions, complaints, concerns.
>
> 4) there is one very important topic, but I don't want to say it directly
> because I believe it crosses the NDA line. It has been discussed many
times
> here and over on the CCIE lab list. hope you have covered it. you may want
> to check the archives of both lists to see what kinds of things are
covered.
>
> Knock 'em dead, pal!
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> ""Richard Newman""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Any last minute study suggestions. I've been through all the FatKid and
> > CCBoot Camp labs twice. There are a couple of areas where I'm shaky
which
> > I'll be concentrating on. What should my focus be in this the last few
> days
> > of studing?
> >
> > Richard




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Off Topic - HR 1542 vote Wednesday [7:36446]

2002-02-25 Thread Chuck

My employer internal e-mail is telling me that HR 1542 comes up for a vote
this Wednesday. If you have an opinion one way or another, you may want to
express it to your representative.

HR 1542 would among other things allow RBOCs to enter into the long distance
data market ( not voice, so I'm told ) It is also supposed to open up the
ISP broadband market, which my employer says is dominated by cable companies
and bankrupt CLEC's.

IMHO this would prove among other things a real boon to voice over IP as
well as data only networks, as your customers or your company could now
obtain more or al of their service from a single carrier within any of the
RBOC regions. ( There would still be 3rd party participation across RBOC
boundaries. )

I personally think this is a good idea, but you may disagree. In either
case, let your reps know how you feel.

Chuck




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Re: Lab this Fri. in RTP [7:36365]

2002-02-25 Thread Chuck

sure - route tags, prefix lists, various and sundry route-maps. gotta know
them! after all, if your only tool is a hammer, all your routing tables will
look like you've been nailed ;->

Chuck

""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
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> As for route filtering, I can only think of distribute lists and wacky
> offset lists.  Are there others?
>
> --
>
> RFC 1149 Compliant.
>
>
> ""Chuck""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > there's still time.
> >
> > 1) redistribution between any two routing protocols over any topology.
> >
> > 2) route filtering - there is more than one way
> >
> > 3) there is a topic that may be NDA if I say anything specific, but for
> > which there is a specific CCNP test, and which if you read this and/or
the
> > CCIE list you see all kinds of questions, complaints, concerns.
> >
> > 4) there is one very important topic, but I don't want to say it
directly
> > because I believe it crosses the NDA line. It has been discussed many
> times
> > here and over on the CCIE lab list. hope you have covered it. you may
want
> > to check the archives of both lists to see what kinds of things are
> covered.
> >
> > Knock 'em dead, pal!
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Richard Newman""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Any last minute study suggestions. I've been through all the FatKid
and
> > > CCBoot Camp labs twice. There are a couple of areas where I'm shaky
> which
> > > I'll be concentrating on. What should my focus be in this the last few
> > days
> > > of studing?
> > >
> > > Richard




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Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]

2002-02-25 Thread Washington Rico

Cisco people I would like to know your impression of Foundry Networks.  Are 
they something to worry about?

Regards,
Eric Washington

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Re: ciscoworks autodiscovery [7:36386]

2002-02-25 Thread Sasa Milic

Have you entered seed device(s) ?

Sasa
CCIE No 8635


Patrick Ramsey wrote:
> 
> Hey group,
> 
> Anybody run into any problems with autodicovery form ani?
> 
> I installed the entire lan management collection, browsed to ciscoworks
url,
> changed the autodicovery dates/times...Then it asked me if I would like to
> go ahead and perform an autodiscovery... wow...how convienant...of course I
> would!... and WAHLA!   uhh...  nothing happened... so I thought...maybe
> I'll let it sit over the weekend and run through all the different times I
> had autodiscovery set up for... and low and behold still nothing!
> 
> what gives?  my snmp strings are as follows
> 
> *.*.*.*:pub::priv
> 
> with pub and priv being substituted for the real deal...
> 
> any ideas?  Is there some cheezy setting somewhere I am just missing?
> 
> -Patrick
> 
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Re: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]

2002-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> If Howard is going to be at the meeting, then everyone
> attending must be asked the following questions to gain
> entrance:
> 
> 1.  What is your name?
> 2.  What is your quest?
> 3.  What is your favorite color??   :-)
> 

You, sirrah, will have to buy a shrubbery.

 "Bruce Evry"  2/25/02 3:51:53 PM >>>
> Dear Kevin and Everyone Else,
> 
>   Afraid I got caught in a time warp, the message got posted
>   a
> day
> after the meeting. Oh well
> 
>   We will try once again - This coming Saturday, March 2,
>   2002.
>   Time: Noon to 4 PM.
>   Place: Bruce's House (under construction...)
>   1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, Maryland 20744
> 
>   Howard Berkowitz may be making a special guest appearance
>   and
> we
> may get to log into 2 remote CCIE Labs to finally answer the
> question of
> what is the WORST possible way to redistribute OSPF and
> IGRP!
> 
>   Everyone is invited. Our group is informal and there are no
> fees,
> dues, or secret handshakes to learn. All you need is an
> interest in Cisco.
>   (of course bringing snacks and sodas is always encouraged!)
> 
>   Bring laptops and gear if you have them. If not bring
>   yourself!
> 
>   Do try and let me know how many people are coming so I can
>   get
> an
> appropriate amount of food. (my treat but donations are
> accepted)
> 
>   Yours Truly - Bruce Evry
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Kevin Wigle wrote:
> 
>> guess you didn't want a big turn out since I see it
>> says
> sent
>> Sunday, 24 Feb
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Evry" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, 24 February, 2002 10:57
>> Subject: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]
>>
>>
>> > Dear Friends,
>> >
>> > After taking the month of January off, we are going to
>> > hold the next meeting/luncheon of the Washington DC group
>> > this coming
> Saturday.
>> >
>> > Saturday, February 23, 2002
>> > Time 10 am to 4 pm
>> > Place - Bruce's House with newly rebuilt Garage!
>> > 1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, MD 20744
>> >
>> > Please bring Laptops, Snacks, Sodas, Desserts and of
>> > course
>> > Routers and Switches.
>> >
>> > This session we will be doing OSPF and IGRP
>> > redistribution the hard way. Figure it's about time we
>> > kill this thing and nail down
> the lid
>> > to its coffin... :)
>> >
>> > Speaking of learning Cisco stuff, I want to thank all of
>> > you who sent such nice replies to my question about
>> > affordable training.
>> >
>> > I would like to offer interested folks the chance to come
>> > visit us here at my house for a week and to do
>> > total-immersion Cisco Study.
> This
>> > will be geared toward the CCIE Practical Lab.
>> >
>> > Monday will be about designing your very own lab. Then on
>> > Tuesday through Friday you get to build your lab! (and
>> > try others as well)
>> >
>> > Topics covered will include Ethernet, Token Ring, Frame
>> > Relay,
> ISDN, ATM,
>> > Voice, along with all our favorite routing protocols,
>> > RIP, IGRP,
> EIGRP,
>> > OSPF, and BGP.  Bonus extras include NAT, PAT, HSRP,
>> > HTTP, NTP,
> SMTP, and
>> > FOOD!
>> >
>> > This offer includes room and board for those of you who
>> > are out of town. Please contact me for details and
>> > pricing. (it'll be
> reasonable!)
>> >
>> > Home Phone 301-292-5231
>> > Cell Phone 202-262-5324
>> > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> >
>> > Yours Truly - Bruce Evry
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Re: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]

2002-02-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

And

4. What problem are you trying to solve? ;-)

And don't forget your shrubbery!

Priscilla

At 06:18 PM 2/25/02, John Neiberger wrote:
>If Howard is going to be at the meeting, then everyone attending must be
>asked the following questions to gain entrance:
>
>1.  What is your name?
>2.  What is your quest?
>3.  What is your favorite color??   :-)
>
> >>> "Bruce Evry"  2/25/02 3:51:53 PM >>>
>Dear Kevin and Everyone Else,
>
> Afraid I got caught in a time warp, the message got posted a
>day
>after the meeting. Oh well
>
> We will try once again - This coming Saturday, March 2, 2002.
> Time: Noon to 4 PM.
> Place: Bruce's House (under construction...)
> 1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, Maryland 20744
>
> Howard Berkowitz may be making a special guest appearance and
>we
>may get to log into 2 remote CCIE Labs to finally answer the question
>of
>what is the WORST possible way to redistribute OSPF and IGRP!
>
> Everyone is invited. Our group is informal and there are no
>fees,
>dues, or secret handshakes to learn. All you need is an interest in
>Cisco.
> (of course bringing snacks and sodas is always encouraged!)
>
> Bring laptops and gear if you have them. If not bring yourself!
>
> Do try and let me know how many people are coming so I can get
>an
>appropriate amount of food. (my treat but donations are accepted)
>
> Yours Truly - Bruce Evry
>
>
>
>On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Kevin Wigle wrote:
>
> > guess you didn't want a big turn out since I see it says
>sent
> > Sunday, 24 Feb
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bruce Evry"
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, 24 February, 2002 10:57
> > Subject: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]
> >
> >
> > > Dear Friends,
> > >
> > > After taking the month of January off, we are going to hold the
> > > next meeting/luncheon of the Washington DC group this coming
>Saturday.
> > >
> > > Saturday, February 23, 2002
> > > Time 10 am to 4 pm
> > > Place - Bruce's House with newly rebuilt Garage!
> > > 1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, MD 20744
> > >
> > > Please bring Laptops, Snacks, Sodas, Desserts and of course
> > > Routers and Switches.
> > >
> > > This session we will be doing OSPF and IGRP redistribution the
> > > hard way. Figure it's about time we kill this thing and nail down
>the lid
> > > to its coffin... :)
> > >
> > > Speaking of learning Cisco stuff, I want to thank all of you who
> > > sent such nice replies to my question about affordable training.
> > >
> > > I would like to offer interested folks the chance to come visit us
> > > here at my house for a week and to do total-immersion Cisco Study.
>This
> > > will be geared toward the CCIE Practical Lab.
> > >
> > > Monday will be about designing your very own lab. Then on Tuesday
> > > through Friday you get to build your lab! (and try others as well)
> > >
> > > Topics covered will include Ethernet, Token Ring, Frame Relay,
>ISDN, ATM,
> > > Voice, along with all our favorite routing protocols, RIP, IGRP,
>EIGRP,
> > > OSPF, and BGP.  Bonus extras include NAT, PAT, HSRP, HTTP, NTP,
>SMTP, and
> > > FOOD!
> > >
> > > This offer includes room and board for those of you who are out of
> > > town. Please contact me for details and pricing. (it'll be
>reasonable!)
> > >
> > > Home Phone 301-292-5231
> > > Cell Phone 202-262-5324
> > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Yours Truly - Bruce Evry


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RE: Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]

2002-02-25 Thread Hartnell, George

Depends on what you mean by "worry".

I've got a couple of Foundry's in addition to the Cisco stuff.  Both L2 and
L3.

I like them.  I like the support. And I like the company.

Best, G.

> -Original Message-
> From: Washington Rico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]
> 
> 
> Cisco people I would like to know your impression of Foundry 
> Networks.  Are 
> they something to worry about?
> 
> Regards,
> Eric Washington
> 
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RE: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]

2002-02-25 Thread Dusty Harper

1. Dusty
2. CCIE
3. Blue... no... wait... Green...


(Its only a flesh wound)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]

> If Howard is going to be at the meeting, then everyone
> attending must be asked the following questions to gain
> entrance:
> 
> 1.  What is your name?
> 2.  What is your quest?
> 3.  What is your favorite color??   :-)
> 

You, sirrah, will have to buy a shrubbery.

 "Bruce Evry"  2/25/02 3:51:53 PM >>>
> Dear Kevin and Everyone Else,
> 
>   Afraid I got caught in a time warp, the message got posted
>   a
> day
> after the meeting. Oh well
> 
>   We will try once again - This coming Saturday, March 2,
>   2002.
>   Time: Noon to 4 PM.
>   Place: Bruce's House (under construction...)
>   1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, Maryland 20744
> 
>   Howard Berkowitz may be making a special guest appearance
>   and
> we
> may get to log into 2 remote CCIE Labs to finally answer the
> question of
> what is the WORST possible way to redistribute OSPF and
> IGRP!
> 
>   Everyone is invited. Our group is informal and there are no
> fees,
> dues, or secret handshakes to learn. All you need is an
> interest in Cisco.
>   (of course bringing snacks and sodas is always encouraged!)
> 
>   Bring laptops and gear if you have them. If not bring
>   yourself!
> 
>   Do try and let me know how many people are coming so I can
>   get
> an
> appropriate amount of food. (my treat but donations are
> accepted)
> 
>   Yours Truly - Bruce Evry
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Kevin Wigle wrote:
> 
>> guess you didn't want a big turn out since I see it
>> says
> sent
>> Sunday, 24 Feb
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Evry" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, 24 February, 2002 10:57
>> Subject: Cisco Meeting & Affordable Classes [7:36344]
>>
>>
>> > Dear Friends,
>> >
>> > After taking the month of January off, we are going to
>> > hold the next meeting/luncheon of the Washington DC group
>> > this coming
> Saturday.
>> >
>> > Saturday, February 23, 2002
>> > Time 10 am to 4 pm
>> > Place - Bruce's House with newly rebuilt Garage!
>> > 1607 Thomas Road, Fort Washington, MD 20744
>> >
>> > Please bring Laptops, Snacks, Sodas, Desserts and of
>> > course
>> > Routers and Switches.
>> >
>> > This session we will be doing OSPF and IGRP
>> > redistribution the hard way. Figure it's about time we
>> > kill this thing and nail down
> the lid
>> > to its coffin... :)
>> >
>> > Speaking of learning Cisco stuff, I want to thank all of
>> > you who sent such nice replies to my question about
>> > affordable training.
>> >
>> > I would like to offer interested folks the chance to come
>> > visit us here at my house for a week and to do
>> > total-immersion Cisco Study.
> This
>> > will be geared toward the CCIE Practical Lab.
>> >
>> > Monday will be about designing your very own lab. Then on
>> > Tuesday through Friday you get to build your lab! (and
>> > try others as well)
>> >
>> > Topics covered will include Ethernet, Token Ring, Frame
>> > Relay,
> ISDN, ATM,
>> > Voice, along with all our favorite routing protocols,
>> > RIP, IGRP,
> EIGRP,
>> > OSPF, and BGP.  Bonus extras include NAT, PAT, HSRP,
>> > HTTP, NTP,
> SMTP, and
>> > FOOD!
>> >
>> > This offer includes room and board for those of you who
>> > are out of town. Please contact me for details and
>> > pricing. (it'll be
> reasonable!)
>> >
>> > Home Phone 301-292-5231
>> > Cell Phone 202-262-5324
>> > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> >
>> > Yours Truly - Bruce Evry
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Re: Please help me answer this question [7:36295]

2002-02-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Jul 16, 11:56am, "Priscilla Oppenheimer" wrote:
}
} It sounds like you're trying to pass the CID test. You should have signed 
} an NDA that says that you won't disclose questions on the test.

 This reply isn't aimed at any single person, since several people
did the same thing.

 The original poster did not specify the source of the question.
Therefore, he did not disclose that it is a question on the test, so
unless the reader has already taken the test, they wouldn't know that
it is a question on the test.  Several people responded claiming that
the question came from a test, thus disclosing a question on the test,
thus breaking NDA.  Ironic, isn't it?  Without the whistle blowers,
nobody would have been the wiser.

 I haven't taken any Cisco exams yet (mainly due to lack of time);
but, I have taken Microsoft exams.  I found a couple of questions that
were on Microsoft exams that were exactly the same as some questions in
the official Microsoft study material.  So, without asking the person,
we can't be sure what the source of the question was.

 Another thing I noticed is that all the people replying kept the
question, thus circulating the question more and adding more copies of
it to the archives.

 If you really must be a whistle blower, then it would be best do
directly so you can avoid the above problems.

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RE: Aironet 350 WAP Load Balancing [7:36399]

2002-02-25 Thread Jeffrey Reed

Mark, in a wireless environment, the WAP's talk over the wired network using
SNAP packets, so they don't have to see each other via the wireless
channels. In the case of wireless load balancing, you must have the WAP's
very close with major overlap in the wireless coverage to achieve any load
balancing. In fact, having them sit within a few feet of each other will
assure the best coverage in a load balanced area. The most effective
throughput is using three WAP's sitting on top of each other using channels
1, 6 &11. Again, assuming these are using the same SSID and WEP keys, the
effective throughput (in marketing terms) is 33M. You can achieve similar
results with wireless bridges, which do talk to each other over the wireless
network.

Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 6:55 PM
To: Jeffrey Reed
Subject: Re: Aironet 350 WAP Load Balancing [7:36399]

Am I correct that this only works in a Horizontal environment as you can not
have the same channels overlapping when the WAPs can not see each other?  So
in a vertical/horizontal environment, it really isn't feasible?
- Original Message -
From: "Jeffrey Reed" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: Aironet 350 WAP Load Balancing [7:36399]


> Assuming the WEP configuration is the same for both access points and all
> clients:
>
> -Using different 2.4Ghz channels will facilitate load balancing via two
> different 11M channels (more bandwidth).
> -Using the same channel will load balance within the same 11M channel.
>
> All of this is done automatically.
>
>
> Jeffrey Reed
> Classic Networking, Inc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Maverick
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Aironet 350 WAP Load Balancing [7:36399]
>
> Hi,
>
> Quick question. If I have two Aironet 350 WAP in range of each other, do
> they automatically load balance? Any configuration needed.
>
> The release notes seems to imply that this is done automatically
>
> thks
>
> YK




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Installing new IOS on new flash [7:36457]

2002-02-25 Thread Lan Wong

Hi,

This is my first post so if I did anything incorrectly, please let me know.
I have recently replaced my 8 meg flash with a 16 meg flash memory on a 
2611. Is there a faster way of loading the ios image onto this blank flash 
than using xmodem.

Thanks,

LW



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re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]

2002-02-25 Thread Mike Mandulak

I think that's coming back to being more true again. A cert in a certain
 product is not what the better IT managers look for, systems in general are
 what they want. The proverbial "they" are looking for people that can do
 everything from network, Unix, NT, sniffers, and mainframes, etc. to give
 the higher paying jobs. Moral of the story Diversify.

> - Original Message -
> From: "ko haag" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
>
>
> > I can remember in the old days when experience was more important than
> certs
> > and having
> > certs was a plus.
> >
> > Ko
> >
> > "Steven A. Ridder" wrote:
> >
> > > I'm more than a CCNA.  I was saying that back when I was a CCNA, I
> wouldn't
> > > have settled for less than 50K.  But you did bring up the good point
> that
> > in
> > > this economy a CCNA wouldn't get a job at 50K.  I guess that it could
be
> > > true.
> > >
> > > --
> > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >
> > > ""nrf""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Well in the good old days of the economy, I made more than that
even
> > > > before
> > > > > becoming a CCNA.  I would never settle for 50k, even in this
econ.,
> > > >
> > > > If you're just a CCNA and you won't settle for 50k now, well then
you
> > > might
> > > > be out of work for some time - a very very long time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > especially as a CCIE.  Plus, a CCIE IMO should already have exp.,
> and
> > > lots
> > > > > of it.  Otherwise it defeats the purpose of becoming a CCIE -
cisco
> > > > > certified internet EXPERT!
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > > > >
> > > > > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > A CCNA with little or no experience? Hardly. He's lucky to even
> land
> > a
> > > > job
> > > > > > right now. I think this intern program is aimed at people new to
> the
> > > > > field.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A CCNA makes more than 50k.  And you wouldn't have to pay your
> > company
> > > > to
> > > > > > work for them and get training.  Most companies pay you and pay
> for
> > > your
> > > > > > training.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > I've taken some classes at ICTP. From what I gather, their
CCIE
> > > intern
> > > > > > > program works like this: you sign up for their CCIE program
> (which
> > > is
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > cheap I should add) and when you pass your CCIE written/lab (I
> > > vaguely
> > > > > > > remember that the CCIE written pass is all you need), you can
> work
> > > as
> > > > a
> > > > > > > subcontractor for ICTP. You make substantially   less money
than
> a
> > > > CCIE
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > "worth", (I believe around $50,000, don't quote me on that)
but
> for
> > > > > those
> > > > > > > with little or no experience (i.e., people enrolling in this
> > > program),
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > works out really well. Hopefully Mr. Lee could explain the
> program
> > > > more
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > detail.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Sean
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Perhaps its a new look on recruiting, they train u, get a
slice
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > > dough for awhile??  Just speculating of course..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And upon finishing the program, how many years of slavery
will
> we
> > > > > > > > unfortunate ones be indebted to your gracious company? :-)
> > > > > > > > Can you clarify this??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > >Subject: CISCO INTERNSHIP.CCIE. [7:36091]
> > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:40:20 -0500
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Hi all,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >My name is Jason Lee I currently work for ICTP located in
> > anaheim
> > > > > > > > >california
> > > > > > > > >we are currently looking for few candidates to go through
our
> > > very
> > > > > > > intense
> > > > > > > > >cisco training, 

RE: Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]

2002-02-25 Thread Elijah Savage

I have heard the guys that started Foundry left Cisco, how true that is
I do not know. But I am so surprised that nothing has come of a lawsuit
because the CLI and almost all commands are like Cisco's from what I
have seen of them. I do know one thing about them they are very sturdy
in heat. In the environment they were in we had some Cisco's fail and
Xylan switches fail due to heat; we finally did get ac put in that
janitors closet :) but the Foundry were rock solid in the heat. 

These were Big Iron 8000 by the way. You can go here for a buyers guide
comparison but I do not know how up to date it is.
http://www.networkcomputing.com/ibg/Products?guide_id=2444

Now that is my one bad comment against Cisco for the year :)

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-Original Message-
From: Hartnell, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]

Depends on what you mean by "worry".

I've got a couple of Foundry's in addition to the Cisco stuff.  Both L2
and
L3.

I like them.  I like the support. And I like the company.

Best, G.

> -Original Message-
> From: Washington Rico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]
> 
> 
> Cisco people I would like to know your impression of Foundry 
> Networks.  Are 
> they something to worry about?
> 
> Regards,
> Eric Washington
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Re: Cisco VS Foundry Networks.. [7:36448]

2002-02-25 Thread Erick B.

Worry about in what sense? 

Foundry makes quality gear, etc. They just came out
with their new ASIC (JetCore) and theirs a few
products out based on it. They also have The
FoundryMan Action figure :)

Extreme also makes quality gear, as well as a number
of other major/popular vendors.

I do multi-vendor tech support for a big company and
work on gear from many vendors. I don't have a
preference other then I want exposure to as many
vendors as I can.

Bottom line, is you shouldn't base decisions on a
nameplate or color. Look into the features, hardware
arch., performance, reviews, etc.

Erick B.


--- Washington Rico  wrote:
> Cisco people I would like to know your impression of
> Foundry Networks.  Are 
> they something to worry about?
> 
> Regards,
> Eric Washington


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RE: Should I buy IDS ? [7:36053]

2002-02-25 Thread Jeff

Actually I'm not a big fan of LIDS, I much prefer grsecurity.
It's got some really nice features and its better maintained on alot of
things.

www.grsecurity.net


-jeff



On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Patrick Ramsey wrote:

> www.snort.org
>
> and remember
>
> www.lids.org
>
> :)  Install lids then snort... (unless you are plannign on runnign snort on
> a microsoft platform!  :)  (but that kinda defeats the purpose of
security...)
>
> >>> "Tel Khan"  02/21/02 10:12AM >>>
> Hi,
>
>  Where can i obtain information on SNORT?
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Tel
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