Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
Store them as PNG (.png). Lossless On 27/09/10 10:43 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
I agree with you assessment On 27/09/10 11:09 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/09/27 02:00, Joshua Juran wrote: I originally objected to the traffic light colors because the functions in question have nothing to do with traffic signals I can see a correlation. Green = Go (big, continue working in the window) Yellow = Pause (minimize, continue working in the window later) Red = Stop (close, no further work in that window) But then I have my own way of seeing things. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
I don't have a digital camera... I meant once you download onto your computer, save them as png in Preview or Photoshop, or whatever. PNG retains pixel info, and have also replaced GIF format On 27/09/10 11:11 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: Store them as PNG (.png). Lossless Your camera will do that? What's the brand? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
I've always understood that jpegs continually lose pixels every time you save them. On 27/09/10 11:13 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: On Sep 27, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). That only happens once. There's no *generational* loss as with analog copies. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
Just call the 'traffic-lights' a kind of 'paraphrase' of the real deal. They are a brilliant adaptation, close enough. Simple, elegant. If MS came up with that they would make them octagons and about 4 times larger. On 27/09/10 11:46 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/09/27 02:00, Joshua Juran wrote: I originally objected to the traffic light colors because the functions in question have nothing to do with traffic signals I can see a correlation. Green = Go (big, continue working in the window) Yellow = Pause (minimize, continue working in the window later) Red = Stop (close, no further work in that window) But then I have my own way of seeing things. If I was required to invent a rationalization I might use that one. But in actuality, red is a temporary condition until the light turns green, at which point you leave the signalled area and that traffic light is no longer part of your environment. With Apple's widgets, green just moves and resizes the window, whereas red removes it from your environment. Also, there's only two possible actions: stop and go. Yellow/amber is just a warning that red is approaching -- you're still going to stop or go, though now it's your call. Another point is that the title bar widgets are controls, whereas the traffic lights are signals. Controls are the (GUI) means by which you pass instructions to the computer; traffic signals give *you* instructions. I agree that the colors are aesthetically pleasing, but they don't function similarly to the traffic light on which they're presumably based. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
Do you mean Win7. I've not seen it... I do have WinXP SP2 sandboxed on 2 Macs (via Virtual PC 7). Instead of those ugly squares with totally unappealing icons, I might have at least suggested the red, yellow green from their logo, keeping the flag shapes. On 27/09/10 12:58 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: On 27/09/10 09:40PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: Just call the 'traffic-lights' a kind of 'paraphrase' of the real deal. They are a brilliant adaptation, close enough. Simple, elegant. If MS came up with that they would make them octagons and about 4 times larger. They did, but they used squares. Oh, and technically, only the red one should be an octagon. ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
I only need WinXP to check my site designs in IE6/7... I do that locally... I don't venture online with XP. There's no point. On 27/09/10 2:11 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: On 27/09/10 10:09PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: Do you mean Win7. I've not seen it... I do have WinXP SP2 sandboxed on 2 Macs (via Virtual PC 7). Instead of those ugly squares with totally unappealing icons, I might have at least suggested the red, yellow green from their logo, keeping the flag shapes. Yes. Either in Win2K or WinXP the minimize/maximize/close icons gained color (they used to be a uniform gray) with the close icon being reddish orange. I can't remember what the other colors were as it has been 2.5 years since I've had to use Windoze. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
I didn't mean that it did, only that I have seen XP and not Win 7 On 27/09/10 2:50 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: On 27/09/10 11:15PDT, Bill Chapman wrote: I only need WinXP to check my site designs in IE6/7... I do that locally... I don't venture online with XP. There's no point. The minimize/maximize/close icons are at the top right of an open window in Windows. It has absolutely nothing to do with going online. See: http://tinyurl.com/36a5jqs That link also answers the question on the minimize maximize icon's color. In Vista it looks like the square buttons became more rectangular. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
Call them Apple's version of traffic lights... moving through windows is 'traffic'... right? Kids get the idea... adults want to nit-pick ; ) On 27/09/10 3:16 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-09-27 9:46 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: I agree that the colors are aesthetically pleasing, but they don't function similarly to the traffic light on which they're presumably based. I am somewhat lost in this thread because my children have always referred to the Apple traffic lights. Kids say the darn dist things as someone once said. What should we call them ? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
The vertical traffic lights make sense... they keep the window from getting too wide On 26/09/10 1:48 PM, Steven wrote: I understand the need for the operating system elements to change over time, but, like the tab bar on the Safari 4 Beta, the vertical traffic lights are a mistake. They don't match any other part of the operating system, or any other operating system for that matter. Every other operating major operating system ever made has had the window buttons placed horizontally along the top of the window, because that's the logical place for them as there is already a title taking up part of that space. There is no title bar in the new iTunes design, presumably because they expect everyone to know what iTunes looks like. While that may work for one unique and well known application, they couldn't possibly get rid of the title bar system wide, so I figure this design is doomed. I'm fine with new features and appearances making their way into the operating system, but only when they make sense. Steven On Sep 26, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Midnight rider wrote: This is not a mistake, because i don't want to stick with the OS X theme for too long. the transition to OS X from OS 9 was a big deal for many people in terms of the UI, but people got over it as it is the way the next generation of Os's will look. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
try 'whether' On 26/09/10 5:33 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-09-25 6:38 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: 'Weather'? On 24/09/10 6:57 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-09-24 12:19 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: I've been using FruitMenu, Xounds and WindowshadeX, since Jaguar days; I'll keep using them until Apple gets its head out of its butt and put the functionality back into the Mac OS. The same here. Apple has simply allowed third party software developers to make a few bucks weather we like it or not. Yes, such as weather the storm of unsanity haxies... -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
Sloppy On 26/09/10 6:05 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-09-26 3:47 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: try 'whether' wheather this or weather that : just a joke me friend : what's the harm -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
Fair enough On 26/09/10 9:04 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-09-26 5:35 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: Sloppy On 26/09/10 6:05 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-09-26 3:47 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: try 'whether' wheather this or weather that : just a joke me friend : what's the harm Little things in life can really be up setting and in the end not worth it. Believe me from a guy that has survived several heart attacks. ⌦ ⌫ Life is like a roller coaster, enjoy it while it lasts ;) ⌦ ⌫ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Printing to PDF
PDFs can be created directly out of programs like Adobe Illustrator. I use QuarkXPress as my page layout software, not Illustrator. I always use Adobe Acrobat Professional to create PDFs, taking the long way around (first saving as a Postscript file via Quark, then going through Acrobat Distiller. Professionals don't use Microsoft word for layout, btw. It's unreliable and very limited. On 24/09/10 11:22 AM, Tina K. wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:52:47 -0400, N.Shani wrote: My issue is with print-to-PDF: there zero (0) selection options - even when page set-up is configured, the print-to-PDF seems to completely ignore it, and any output requested as smaller than letter size (in appearance, say 6x9) will end-up as letter size. That doesn't sound like Adobe at all now does it? ;-) I may be wrong but I believe that to format PDFs it takes a full blown PDF creation app such as Acrobat Pro (not Reader) to control how a PDF displays. I've never created one from scratch so I don't even know if overall size is an option but they do all seem to be about the same size. Would selecting the data you want to save and invoking the Services TextEdit New Window Containing Selection service work for you? Or the free text editor Bean.app also has a Paste Selection into Current Document service that might (?) give you more control. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
'Weather'? On 24/09/10 6:57 PM, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-09-24 12:19 PM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: I've been using FruitMenu, Xounds and WindowshadeX, since Jaguar days; I'll keep using them until Apple gets its head out of its butt and put the functionality back into the Mac OS. The same here. Apple has simply allowed third party software developers to make a few bucks weather we like it or not. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
I was referring to the menu bars, etc... I like Tiger, Leopard the way Apple designed them... for the background, I use the default Leopard/Tiger images. In my case, it's psychological... signaling my better-late-than-never entry into the modern Mac era (in Jan 2008). When I was on 7-8 I used that mid-gray for quite awhile, and then switched to the medium blue/green. I think I switched to the Tiger swoosh on my PM 8600 even before I got OS X machines. On 23/09/10 3:17 PM, Tina K. wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:47:57 -0400, Bill Chapman wrote: As a graphic designer, working on subtle desktops is an advantage. I don't need any distracting colours competing for attention. I used to use a solid medium grey desktop until it became so mind numbing that it ended up being a distraction in itself. Now I use a pretty desktop that makes me happy and I use full screen windows when working on something so that I can focus on it. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
A penny for your thoughts... I guess somebody owes you one cent ; ) On 23/09/10 11:39 PM, epic93d...@gmail.com wrote: Just gonna throw my two cents in... I prefer no gui. I tend to find that the mouse slows me down too much... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Printing to PDF
It's Adobe Acrobat Professional, actually... and for complete control of your output, you should convert the original document to a Postscript (.ps) file first, then open in Acrobat Distiller... then set up your parameters. On 24/09/10 10:07 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: On 24/09/10 04:52PDT, N.Shani wrote: Dan, I was referring to print-to-PDF, not to a physical printer. I have no problem configuring my Brother printer with the page set-up selection as you indicated. My issue is with print-to-PDF: there zero (0) selection options - even when page set-up is configured, the print-to-PDF seems to completely ignore it, and any output requested as smaller than letter size (in appearance, say 6x9) will end-up as letter size. I think to make custom-sized PDFs, you still need to use Adobe Acrobat itself. The various print-to-PDF options are intended for simple, basic documents. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
I used to include Classic with Tiger/Panther... but it was butt-ugly on my OS X machines. On 24/09/10 7:00 PM, Midnight rider wrote: iTunes 10 works for me, but the thing that you guys call a Nightmare UI is the same way people felt about switching over to OS X on the days of classic for their UI. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
I have A-Dock, it's a 256Mb file (Stuffit)... anybody want it, send me an email On 24/09/10 7:45 PM, Elliott Price wrote: If anyone finds A-Dock, post a link! That sounds like a handy OS9 hack, I always miss the dock when I use my machines running OS9. Icon shortcuts on the desktop? Tacky... Navigating apps from the Apple menu? Tedious. Although, I remember when that was the cool way to access your apps ;) -Elliott On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Steven wrote: When combined with A-Dock, an implementation of the OS X dock for OS 8 and OS 9, it actually provides a somewhat convincing appearance -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
Yeah, Ive got all those blue background swooshes... Jaguar, Tiger, whatever... googled them. Even use the Tiger version on my Power Mac 8600. Guys, try DragThing if you don't like OS X dock. Used that on my pre-OS X machines from the get-go (1996). You can customize its look... at least you can with the old versions... I like both Tiger/ Leo and haven't bothered with OS X DragThing On 23/09/10 12:13 PM, Ashgrove wrote: On Sep 23, 11:39 am, Elliott Pricecallmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: I hope that in 10.7 they switch away from the pink backgrounds. I miss the old blue swooshes. They were so elegant, and really made Macs pop. Even the new aluminum and black Macs look a lot more classy with the 10.4 blue swoosh, rather then the dumb pink aurora. It's interesting to see how different things bother (or attract) different people. In my case, I love almost everything about the new slate look (love the name, very appropriate, Elliott). Even the so- debated new iTunes look --after the initial WTF moment, I find it the most unobtrusive iTunes skin ever. I keep my Dock very, very full, and very minimized, so the 3D works better for me than a long rectangle at the bottom of my screen. You can have the blue swooshes back, you know. Just copy them from a Tiger-running computer. I get bored very quickly with the supplied set of desktop backgrounds that every OS comes with, and get my own anyway. Same with screensavers --I use Electric Sheep, which is way, way cool. Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
You can get the 'old blue swooshes'... just google 'em. I actually use the Tiger swoosh on my Power Mac 8600 and also on my B/W G3 Panther, G3 iMac Panther, and G3 iBook Panther Try DragThing dock... I still use it on my 8600 On 23/09/10 11:39 AM, Elliott Price wrote: That's cool! I do miss the bright blue accents from the older systems. 10.5 and 10.6 (And especially iTunes 10) are a little on the monochromatic grey side... I don't know why they still call it aqua since the only aqua elements left are the traffic light buttons, and the out of place blue scroll bars. Slate might be a better name. The one element I miss the most from 10.4 is the dock. I really hate that weird, glassy dock. I loved the elegance and simplicity of the old dock (and the fact that it had boundaries - It feels like the 10.5-6 dock is trying to throw your icons onto your desktop!) I use Tinkertool to disable the 3D dock on all my computers running 10.5 and 10.6 - And all my family's computers running it too. I hope that in 10.7 they switch away from the pink backgrounds. I miss the old blue swooshes. They were so elegant, and really made Macs pop. Even the new aluminum and black Macs look a lot more classy with the 10.4 blue swoosh, rather then the dumb pink aurora. -Elliott On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:35 PM, Steven wrote: That appears to be a very early version, all Panther except for the Spotlight icon. The version I was referring to is more like the final Tiger menu bar, except with the blue Spotlight icon and a matching spot on the opposite side covering the Apple logo. Apparently it has become incredibly hard to find any pictures of the Tiger pre release version. The closest I can find is a video of Dashboard from the Apple site in mid 2004 (via the Internet Archive): http://web.archive.org/web/20040814085431/www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/theater/dashboard.html By the way, I love that the calculator in that video is displaying 1,337. Steven On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Elliott Price wrote: Hmm! http://betaworld.forcedperfect.net/macos104_8a162/ I do actually like the glossy Spotlight icon. The shipping version didn't have the stripes in the menubar anymore. :) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com mailto:imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
As a graphic designer, working on subtle desktops is an advantage. I don't need any distracting colours competing for attention. On 23/09/10 2:21 PM, Midnight rider wrote: Apple always for some reason has managed to get back to it's classic monochromic themes. THe Platimun theme and the Leo/SL theme are both greyish and depressing. Only the leo and SL themes look a little more futuristic. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
I'm happy with the Tiger, Leopard etc stuff... the way Apple does things... Adobe rocks too, and QuarkXPress 8 is a lot like Adobe CS4 stuff re UI, a big leap forward for Quark , very cool now to work with On 23/09/10 3:00 PM, Midnight rider wrote: I understand you too. I am a computer expert, but since I maintain a website, i do have to do alot of stuff on Apache, adoe flashbuilder and photoshop. I have to know alot of stuff on graphics design too. My style is: Metallic, transparent, and shining blue with the glossy effects like the menu bar in tiger. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
Yeah, good old Conflict Catcher... saved my bacon many, many times back in the day. I also miss those sounds in 9, especially the 'clacking' when scrolling down a menu... I guess Apple decided they were too low-class, or something, for the snotty, shiny new kid on the block (OS X). On 22/09/10 11:06 PM, Joshua Juran wrote: When I became a Mac owner (circa System 6), I believed that more INITs equaled more awesome. During my Mac OS 8.1 days I bought Conflict Catcher, and on OS 9 I've simply been picky about what goes in my System Folder. I haven't used any OS X hacks at all since I'm practically paranoid about stability. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: considering a used iMac
I didn't write that... I said I have 12 On 21/09/10 11:44 AM, Elliott Price wrote: 16? 28? Sorry to say, but I have about 36... Not all of them are super-collectible, but if we're just talking quantity I think I have you guys beat. :) -Elliott On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: That was just my line of iMacs. Here's my entire list of 16: And John Carmonne, I know you have 28, please don't rub it into my face about your collection -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: considering a used iMac
Good idea for another reality show. You guys should post those numbers on PCWorld... and watch the Mac-bashers have a field day. Any topic with the word 'Apple' in it draws PC fanboiz and Fandroids like bees to honey. On 21/09/10 10:05 PM, Ashgrove wrote: On Sep 21, 9:02 pm, Clark Martincm...@sonic.net wrote: I know I can be beat but my collection weighs in at 54. And that's not including two Newtons And I thought I was in bad shape and needed to go on rehab... I am a mere Mac hoarder wannabe. I salute you guys. F -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: considering a used iMac
Nah, you can never have too many Macs... well if you have more than 2 of the same type, maybe. Check my lineup: • Mac Quadra 610 25MHz MacOS 8.6 (my first Mac, secondhand 1996... all my Macs are secondhand btw) • Power Mac 7200 90MHz MacOS 8.6 • Power Mac 7600 120MHz (I think) MacOS 8.6 • Power Mac 8600 300MHz MacOS 8.6 (on my LAN, still in use... I'm a designer and my Wacom tablet, scanner and printer are SCSI) • G3 iMac 350MHz Panther (Bondi or Blueberry, not sure) • G3 Blue White Panther/Classic 400MHz • G3 iBook 300MHz Panther/Classic (Bondi or Blueberry) • G4 Titanium Powerbook 1.6GHz Leopard (on my LAN) • G4 QuickSilver 800 MHz Tiger (on my LAN) • G5 Dual 2GHz Leopard (on my LAN) I'm no where near the aficionados that you guys here are... I don't tinker with old machines at all. They were all (excepting the iBook) purchased as upgrades to my production as a designer, and all great in their day. On 20/09/10 9:33 PM, Jim Scott wrote: On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Ashgrove wrote: If all works out, my line of iMacs should be happy. In fact, I have 5 iMacs, and one eMac that could be considered an iMac. eMac G4 700 iMac G5 1.8 20 iMac G3 350 iMac G3 600 iMac G3 233 original Bondi Blue iMac G4 1.25 Interesting collection. I see that a lot of us suffer from TTMS (Too Many Macs Syndrome). I'm still envious of that 20 screen. And Jim got himself this year a 27 model, the rascal... ;-) Actually, Felix, I got my 27-inch 3.06 GHz iMac on October 22, 2009, only a couple of days after they were announced. That's not quite a year ago, and it's already been superseded by a newer, improved version. But it's still got that ginormous LED-backlit 27-inch screen which makes almost two of my still-under-AppleCare 20-inch Aluminum 2.4 GHz iMac. Yep, Felix, that's called piling on. Heh-heh. :^) And, let's see, I've got 3 Pismos, 2 Clamshells (with great batteries), 17 G3 iMacs from 233 to 700 MHz waiting for new owners through my Macs for Kids giveaway program, 2 G5 iMacs rescued from the angry capacitor gods, and iPods, iPads ... well, the symptoms just never seem to stop or even go into remission, happy to say. And my wife's still using that Mac Mini I bought from you several years ago. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: considering a used iMac
I must say I am nothing if not humbled... you most certainly will sit at our Lord's (Steve Jobs') right hand for eternity. The catch is that Mr. Carmonne will sit in his LAP lol On 20/09/10 11:06 PM, Midnight rider wrote: That was just my line of iMacs. Here's my entire list of 16: And John Carmonne, I know you have 28, please don't rub it into my face about your collection Power Mac 6100/60 OS 9.1 500MB HDD Powerbook 540c Motorola 68030 33Mhz Powerbook 530cs PowerPC 603e 100Mhz Power Mac G3 Gossamer 233Mhz iMac G3 Bondi Blue 233Mhz Power Mac G3 BW 300Mhz iMac G3 Indigo 350Mhz (With BLUE LED fan inside of it, i made the mod myself!!!) Power Mac G4 Sawtooth (My main system) 2GB RAM, Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB, 14TB HDD Array, 80GB Main and 320GB Backup, OS X 10.5.8, and dell 23 screen with a 20 dell to the left of it. Power Mac G4 Sawtooth (#2, My main computer's sidekick) Power Mac G4 Cube 450Mhz OS X 10.4.11 with 22 Cinema ADC Display =) (With clear case to see internals, I made this mod too..) iMac G3 Graphite 600Mhz with green LED fan inside (I made this mod too!!!) eMac G4 700Mhz iMac G4 1.25GHz iMac G5 1.8Ghz 20 Macbook Pro Mid-2010 with Core i7 processor Macs I used to have: iBook G3 Clamshell Tangerine 300Mhz (Sold it to get iBook G4 which i later traded to get my G5 iMac) iBook G4 12 1.33ghz (traded to get my G5 iMac) Power Mac 7200/120 (Died during power surge during a storm, may it rest in peace) Power Mac G4 Quicksilver Dual 1.0ghz (PSU blew up, never came to replace it and sold parts to Peter Haas. I still have the case, though. =( ) Apple I (I don't care if anybody doesn't believe me, but i had one and it worked. Sold it for money to get my iMac G4, G4 cube, Sawtooth #2, and my MBP. I sold it for $4000. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
I have a Quicksilver G4 800MHz with 1Gb RAM... it can only support 1.5Gb ram... isn't this model newer than the sawtooth? On 19/09/10 10:04 AM, Midnight rider wrote: I do put leopard on every G4 mac I have regardless of it's clock speed. I have a tip for you: If you are going to put leopard on a 450Mhz dual G4, go for it, it'll run like a 900Mhz G4. I have Leopard running on a 400Mhz sawtooth (that i upgraded to 533Mhz using OF), and Leopard runs good on it, just as long as: -You have a GOOD video card supported under Quartz Extreme and Core Image that is at least 64MB or above... -You have a decent amount of RAM, (even a G4 sawtooth will struggle under 1GB, go for 2GB!) -Get system updates -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ADC monitor plugged into G5 iMac
Apple Store On 14/09/10 2:23 PM, Midnight rider wrote: So where can i got myself one of those Mini-DVi adapters? i hae a VGA one and a TV one but none are DVi... -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !
I have Virtual PC 7 installed on 2 Macs. Here is confirmation that Macs can be infected: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828574 On 08/09/10 12:08 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com mailto:salum...@gmail.com wrote: Virus on your Mac? You're SO wrong, Wallace. Of course it's perfectly possible, say, if you have a cold and sneeze on it... -- __ Either you lost the thread or misread my response to someone else's problem. I in myexperience am not wrong. If Windows is ON a Mac That part of the HD can be infected. Never saw any Mac OS with any sort of code infection. Nor heard of any credible report of one in the wild. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com mailto:fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Intel macbook ubuntu and windows issues.
Hey, wait a minute... I purchased a second hand G5 Power Mac Dual 2Gb about 5 months ago. The sound is awful tinny, but aside from that it's a whole lot better than my other Macs. How were you shafted? On 26/08/10 2:09 PM, Tina K. wrote: Alexander Blok wrote: I feel shafted... If you really want to feel shafted, purchase a dual G5 Power Mac right before Apples makes the Intel announcement… Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Intel macbook ubuntu and windows issues.
Okay... I thought you meant that you were screwed at the time you bought it. Re Intel, you can't blame Apple for moving their technology ahead, just as they moved to OSX from previous versions. Personally I'm able to use CS4 suite (except for PPro and Ae) on my PPC macs. I've always been 'behind the curve' due mainly to budget restrictions, so legacy Macs are fine with me, especially since every Mac I purchased was second hand. On 26/08/10 3:17 PM, Tina K. wrote: Bill Chapman wrote: Hey, wait a minute... I purchased a second hand G5 Power Mac Dual 2Gb about 5 months ago. The sound is awful tinny, but aside from that it's a whole lot better than my other Macs. How were you shafted? Moi? Well I haven't been counting but let's see: There is Snow Leopard. Logic/Express. Chrome. Soundbooth. CS5. (likely) Firefox 4. (probably) the next version of iLife (the current version requires Intel for some features). And many more titles that I can't think of at the moment as well as even more to come. Apple can't wait to distance itself from the PowerPC architecture and become the Think Less Differently About Your Desktop And Notebook Computers company. I would even venture to say that comparing Leopard to Vista is a fair comparison, but I digress. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Intel macbook ubuntu and windows issues.
Yeah, I'd almost buy brand new just to get the box haha On 26/08/10 5:54 PM, Tina K. wrote: Bill Chapman wrote: Okay... I thought you meant that you were screwed at the time you bought it. Re Intel, you can't blame Apple for moving their technology ahead, just as they moved to OSX from previous versions. Personally I'm able to use CS4 suite (except for PPro and Ae) on my PPC macs. I've always been 'behind the curve' due mainly to budget restrictions, so legacy Macs are fine with me, especially since every Mac I purchased was second hand. I don't blame Apple a bit for going to the x86 platform, their hand was forced by a lack of suitable G5s for notebooks. But I do think they were too quick to pull the plug on supporting PPC, Tiger, and so forth. On the Windows side developers are still supporting XP which is about nine years old now, but in Apple land four years seems to be the lifespan of an OS. I have budget restrictions too, I usually purchase 'new' Macs that have just been discontinued or sometimes refurbs. Someday I'd like to buy just one Mac on the day it was released but that day doesn't seem to be on the horizon yet. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: External Drive
FYI Quark 8 is a way different re interface than earlier versions... it mimics adobe modern interfaces, is very appealing. And it is far superior to InDesign re building Flash output; can do most of what Flash itself does right inside Quark... great if you're more of a print designer than web designer, since you won't have to learn Flash itself Kathy K wrote: It looks like Freehand might be OK—there is an updater that is supposed to remedy how Freehand starts up. Quark, though it's unfortunate that I've spent $ on this software, I'd just as soon let it go. I really don't like Quark. Future clients will just have to deal with that. ;-) If I end up with an issue with CS2, then maybe I can get by with just an InDesign upgrade for now until I can upgrade the whole suite. ($799 to upgrade to CS5 from CS3.) On Jun 1, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Run Vzel wrote: Kathy K k...@spotart.net mailto:k...@spotart.net May 31 12:09PM -0700 wrote: I don't have loads of $ to spend, and also need to know that my graphics software is going to be compatible with the OS upgrade. (Adobe CS3, and InDesign CS2, Quark 7, Freehand MXa—yes, the suite needs upgrading and yes I'm still attached to Freehand.) CS3 will be alright in 10.5, CS2 will break, Quark 7—don’t know, Freehand—don’t know. Run -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com mailto:imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: External Drive
Yeah, go to http://8.quark.com/, you can download a free trial. You can upgrade from your earlier version of Quark. Take a look at what they can do re Flash... a lot of great info links on their site. The thing about InDesign is that their conversion to web layout from any given page layout is pretty much limited to simple 'brochure' type layouts, according to reviews, while Quark 8 has tons of interactivity functions. http://8.quark.com/design_across_media.html Check out how you can integrate with PS and other adobe apps http://8.quark.com/cs_integration/ Don't forget, you can get Q8 several hundred dollars cheaper when you upgrade from an earlier version (assuming you paid for it haha) Earlier you said ...because I know that I won't get around to backing things up on CDs and DVDs. I have an external OWC Mercury Elite-AL Pro hard drive, 1Tb... I just drag-drop files I'm working on to it at least 2-3 times a day. No sweat. You just have to kind of scare yourself and get into the habit of backing up. About 3-4 months ago my G4 QuickSilver hd died on me... but, all I lost was a ton of emails, since I've been backing up my stuff all along, since 1996... I have over 200 CDs and DVDs with all my graphic work done over the years... all of that is also on my external hard drive, making it a snap to find any file really quickly, a real time saver compared to rifling through a ton of CDs. I also have a network of macs available since I have deadlines and can't afford to have a mac die... the day the G4 died, I promptly went out and got a G5 tower second hand and it's been great, really powerful. So, I didn't miss a beat... I was busy designing a 40-page web site and have that all backed up incIuding on my G4 Titanium Powerbook, ready to step in at any time. I buy all my macs (12 and counting) second hand and never throw any out. Those legacy macs can be really useful... my Wacom tablet, printer and scanner are unusable in OS X but I have an old mac on my network which runs then on Mac OS 8.6 Kathy K wrote: I might have to look at that—but I haven't used Quark much in the last year. In fact, I just did some work in Quark from existing files and could hardly remember any shortcuts or anything. On Jun 3, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: FYI Quark 8 is a way different re interface than earlier versions... it mimics adobe modern interfaces, is very appealing. And it is far superior to InDesign re building Flash output; can do most of what Flash itself does right inside Quark... great if you're more of a print designer than web designer, since you won't have to learn Flash itself -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
Okay, by iStuff I guess I really mean handhelds... I should refer to iPods, iPhones, etc as iHandHelds, I suppose... just 'stuff' to me, toys... I never really got into Apple mice that much... I had severe tennis-elbow issues when I first got into computers (1996) and switched to the fantastic Kensington TurboMouse early on and used that exclusively for years on my ADB macs. Since getting into OSX I use Logitech Marble Mouse. ./aal wrote: not flaming, just observing..btw if you got a G5 you have iStuff, you have an iMac I have a bondi iMac myself and as earlier posts in the thread show, you any choice in mice you want, as long as it is the only one Steve said to sell with it. how they expect computer labs to fill a room with iMacs+wireless mice is beyond me seems they would offer a wired mouse option, but that would dent their bottom line -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
./aal wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:28 PM, ./aal aalh...@gmail.com wrote: Btw, kind of odd to run into an 'McBasher' on this forum... that guy should pack up and move to pcworld haha Who's McBashing? I never said they were wrong to buy Mac's, no reason to be defensive and insecure. I like Macs, they run Linux great (as OSX shows) I like my computers to be personal, what I choose, instead of what Steve Jobs tells me I need. My taste informs me about what I want. If you want to group me in with the mac faithful, go ahead... but to infer that I buy stuff only on Steve's say-so is really off the mark... so in fact you are actually flaming, like those trolls who say that people who buy Macs are automatically stupid and can't make rational decisions. Btw I've never purchased a brand-new mac, nor do I have any iStuff, including so much as an iPod. I have 12 macs (since 1996) and just 2 months ago got my first G5 at 1/10 the cost of the original price. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
Ashgrove wrote: On Apr 22, 8:37 pm, ./aal aalh...@gmail.com wrote: Carrie, for style and status same reason they bought the macs The person who ordered them had more dollars than sense Well, at least they had the sense to buy Macs. The wireless mice were an unfortunate idea, but getting PCs and installing WIndows 7, or Vista, or any flavor of creamy Linux would have meant investing that money in a bigger IT department... Felix Yeah, about 10 years ago a friend ran his own print shop, and was an expert with pc and mac (had computer engineer degree, ran his own server, etc) and said that 'behind the scenes, Windows is a mess' Btw, kind of odd to run into an 'McBasher' on this forum... that guy should pack up and move to pcworld haha -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: What else to do with your old machines
Harsh... gut a Mac?? Christian Wacker wrote: I still enjoy the idea of turning mine into a NAS. I've just got to wait for it to die... I can't kill a living Mac. (On a side note, an eMac with a blown logic board makes a great trash can when gutted.) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
Yeah, I saw that wiki page several months ago... the colours are way off on my displays. I also saw another page where the guy had the two side-by-side, and mine looked closer to Bondi... but you simply cannot judge an on-screen color with the actual machine. The specs tell the official story of course. My argument addresses the fact that Apple called a turquoise/green blue colour 'blueberry'... blueberries are not blue/green, they are PURPLE or maybe even closer to INDIGO, at least up here in Toronto. Btw, I also have the G3 BlueWhite and the blue/green iBook. But it's impossible to decide which colour is which Elliott Price wrote: Ok - For the record, here's a link to a color comparison list on Wikipedia. It's not entirely accurate, but you can see the difference between the colors, along with their names. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IMac_G3_flavors.jpg I also have photos of a Bondi and a Blueberry next to each other, but I'm having trouble finding them... -Elliott Price Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services hobbittech.com/quoit On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: Until someone shows up with an actual Blueberry model and puts it side-by-side, I'm calling this one Bondi... it's a light turquoise, and who the hell as ever seen turquoise (green/blue) blueberries anyway...THEY'RE PURPLE -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: What else to do with your old machines
There are a lot of kick-ass custom cases out there as you probably know... wish I had more space Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: [But think of this, does anyone even care enough about an old PC case to save it at all] I would save an Alienware case Had not thought of that. But I have a hard time visualizing anyone throwing one away. I could be wrong but I believe Alienware started out in the '90s making Amiga clones. Those were the days. I would still like to have a Drakken. Just because. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
I have an early G3 iMac, Bondi or Blueberry, I'm not sure... slot-loading 4Gb HD 256Mb RAM 350MHz Had OS 9.1 if I remember correctly (got it secondhand about 5-6 years ago) which I upped to 9.2.2 at first, and then 2 years ago loaded Panther (OSX 10.3.9). Also have the same-era G3 Clamshell laptop (so-called 'toilet seat' haha) with roughly same specs... replaced those with G4 and G5 machines over the last 2 years, but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view, I swap them on and off my 4-mac lan (which includes my trusty Power Mac 8600 MacOS 8.6) occasionally. All secondhand don't need brand new, never did. joshuallen wrote: It's a slot loader with a 20GB hard drive and 256 MB of RAM. I can't say if it's a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive. It's the model that has the door on the back to accept an airport card or to swap out the RAM, and 2 firewire ports. I suspect that the HD and RAM must have been upgrades. I figured out how to partition it using the full install disk of OS 9 the guy gave me, and then I reinstalled to OS X.1. I figured maybe it was necessary, maybe not, but either way, I'd have an extra partition if I wanted to do a dual boot or anything. I'm starting to get the hang of OSX now, and it runs pretty well on this machine. I wish I could upgrade to take advantage of the software out there, but I don't think it's in the cards, unless I see something pop up on craigslist. On Apr 20, 10:49 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 4/20/10 2:41 PM, Elliott Price wrote: With the first-generation G3 Macs, there were some drive addressing problems that prevented it to boot from OSX if it wasn't on the first 8Gb of the disk. This is my understanding of it, I may be wrong about why, but those models definitely have that restriction. I *think* it was only the G3 minitower, the G3 desktop, and maybe the Bondi iMac. If the HD is under 8Gb, then there's no problem. I believe it applies to all tray loader iMacs which includes the next generation after the Bondi. And that group DID include a tangerine model. I was thinking there wasn't a tangerine in the tray loader clan which made me skip the 8Gb issue. You're right, that is a potential issue. To the OP, does your new toy have a tray loader or slot loader optical drive. If you have a tray loader then you do need to partition the HD with a slightly less than 8Gb partition at the beginning of the HD to install OS X onto. If you have a slot loader then you don't need to partition the drive. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
Ikea shelves... I store my unused old Macs on shelves http://www.ikea.com/us/en/ Gerald Uhlan wrote: Huh? What does that mean, Ikea'd? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
Anything goes these days, eh... I'm into writing ad-type stuff... I just coined that... you can use it haha Gerald Uhlan wrote: Oh. Never heard of Ikea being used as a verb to mean shelve. Thanks for the clarification. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Ikea shelves... I store my unused old Macs on shelves http://www.ikea.com/us/en/ Gerald Uhlan wrote: Huh? What does that mean, Ikea'd? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
Absolutely... I still have every Mac I've ever bought... all in plain view... since 1996 I have 12, including a Mac Classic which I got for $10 and never used it. It currently sits on a top shelf keeping an eye on me haha Jason Trunzo wrote: I pictured them set out on coffee tables or desks but not used at all just like the fake laptops and tv's that Ikea uses in their displays. And if you did mean that, I get it - cuz that stuff is too cool to box away you gotta leave it out for all the world to see even if you're not using it! On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Gerald Uhlan wrote: Oh. Never heard of Ikea being used as a verb to mean shelve. Thanks for the clarification. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Ikea shelves... I store my unused old Macs on shelves http://www.ikea.com/us/en/ Gerald Uhlan wrote: Huh? What does that mean, Ikea'd? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
Even the boxes are too cool to throw away... I can't understand why people throw those out... I still have my long-dead AppleVision 1710 display in its original box (in a closet since I'm cramped here) Jason Trunzo wrote: I pictured them set out on coffee tables or desks but not used at all just like the fake laptops and tv's that Ikea uses in their displays. And if you did mean that, I get it - cuz that stuff is too cool to box away you gotta leave it out for all the world to see even if you're not using it! On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Gerald Uhlan wrote: Oh. Never heard of Ikea being used as a verb to mean shelve. Thanks for the clarification. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Ikea shelves... I store my unused old Macs on shelves http://www.ikea.com/us/en/ Gerald Uhlan wrote: Huh? What does that mean, Ikea'd? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
Thanks for the important info Elliott Just hooked up the G3 iMac. It has 128Mb RAM 350MHz I have a 5.86Gb Panther partition and a 500Mb Classic partition I still maintain that the Blueberry iMac should be purple, like actual blueberries This one is turquoise... my Clamshell G3 is way darker Elliott Price wrote: If the WD 500Gb is a full size IDE HD, (and not a laptop drive, or SATA,) then yes. It's really easy to swap drives in the G4 towers. Just make sure the cable settings are correct (Master/Slave). -Elliott On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com mailto:pagew...@interlog.com wrote: It has a slot, no tray... it might be 6GB drive now that I think of it... I haven't hooked it up in awhile I don't have nearly the room to hook up any more computers... besides, those old ones are way too slow as compared to my G4 Titanium PB (1.6GHz, the fastest G4 Apple ever made) and my G5 Dual 2.0GHz. In fact I've just shelved my G3 B/W tower/Panther... I'm swapping it out and replacing it with my (currently) dead G4 Quicksilver 800MHz/Tiger as soon as I get another HD. Btw, would I be able to install a Western Digital Caviar GP 500GB hd drive on the G4?... I'm no techie Thanks Clark Martin wrote: On 4/21/10 5:48 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I have an early G3 iMac, Bondi or Blueberry, I'm not sure... slot-loading 4Gb HD 256Mb RAM 350MHz Had OS 9.1 if I remember correctly (got it secondhand about 5-6 years ago) which I upped to 9.2.2 at first, and then 2 years ago loaded Panther (OSX 10.3.9). Also have the same-era G3 Clamshell laptop (so-called 'toilet seat' haha) with roughly same specs... replaced those with G4 and G5 machines over the last 2 years, but still have the G3s Ikea'd in plain view, I swap them on and off my 4-mac lan (which includes my trusty Power Mac 8600 MacOS 8.6) occasionally. All secondhand don't need brand new, never did. That info is confused. 4Gb HD implies a tray loader (unless someone downgraded the drive. But 350 MHz implies slot loader. Last year I got a tangerine clamshell. I always liked the look of that model. It was very different in a industry of sameness. You can always get a 8 port switch, cheap, so you can have all the computers on the net at once. I've got a 16 port gigabit switch, 24 port 10/100 switch, 16 port 10MBps hub and assorted other little ones hooking everything up. And three wireless APs for the laptops and such. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com mailto:imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:imaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
Until someone shows up with an actual Blueberry model and puts it side-by-side, I'm calling this one Bondi... it's a light turquoise, and who the hell as ever seen turquoise (green/blue) blueberries anyway...THEY'RE PURPLE Ashgrove wrote: I have never been able to get those darned colors right. I have a blue- violet trayloader myself, and I can't determine if it is Bondi, Grape, or Blueberry. It has a Revision A logic board --it says so on the very logic board--, but apparently somebody upgraded it with a 333Mhz processor. It works, faithfully, but it has so far resisted all my attempts to install some flavor of Linux in it. Apparently it thinks that Panther and OS 9 are the best, and who am I to contradict it? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Old G3
You know how to keep boxes? Fold 'em haha... or even just get out the box cutter and keep the front Yeah, my first Mac was the Quadra 610 68000/25Mhz/68Mb RAM... the so-called 'pizza box'. It's still here, under the tv, with my 7200 and 7600 Gerald Uhlan wrote: Because they don't have the room to store them. I sure don't. Just like I don't have any place to store or display my old Macs. (I even had an original 68K Macintosh!) So, they all go to the thrift store. Only old one I've kept is my Snow G3, as it is still serviceable, but having a devil of a time finding a place to put it. Just upgraded to a G4 iLamp, and I'm thinking of using the G3 out in the shed as a glorified mp3 player. Still would have to find a place to put it in there, and hooked up to the stereo. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: Even the boxes are too cool to throw away... I can't understand why people throw those out... I still have my long-dead AppleVision 1710 display in its original box (in a closet since I'm cramped here) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Keynote files
I googled 'keynote file wrong format message' and got people with same problem: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1890548tstart=0 Did you change your dock icon to '09 version Another issue with Keynote '09 is that you can't output to Flash, unlike '08 version. I keep both '08 and '09 on board Stuart wrote: Thanks Linda, Am trying to open in same app as they were created in - iWork 09 Keynote - also tried with ext w/o - no joy. ;-( On Apr 14, 7:01 am, macinore...@mac.com wrote: On Apr 13, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Stuart wrote: I have some important Keynote files which will not open - message shown is 'not a valid format' Anyone know what might be the problem - or better, a fix? Have you installed a newer version of Keynote? Also, is the extension correct? Hope it gets fixed - I know the feeling , and it's not fun! Linda aloha, or -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/imaclist To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac refurb as an independent business opportunity?
I wonder how fast WE are... back in 1993, when I first started learning about computers (before I had one) I saw a program which, in one scene, had a cartoon of a big rock sitting on a chair in front of a computer and the narrator was describing how TO A COMPUTER (of the day, of course), EACH KEYSTROKE a human would make would seem like SEVEN YEARS! Kasey Smith wrote: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Malcolm O'Brien malcolmo2...@hotmail.com wrote: Tell him you know someone whose first computer had 1K of RAM. Yes! One *K*. (In some locales Timex) Sinclair ZX81. My second computer had 3.5K of RAM and featured a whopping 22 characters across the screen. Commodore VIC-20. But the Volkscomputer, the Commodore 64 had a full 64K of RAM and a processor (6502) that smoked at 1MHz. What about the 6MHz Texas Instruments Ti-86, or the 2MHz Ti-82 ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade Help Required
Thanks Cyrus, my G5 is also Dual 2.0GHz... yeah I'm totally excited about getting such a powerhouse (499.00CDN) although I'll have to wait a bit since I need to grab an apple dvi to adc adapter for my flat-panel display. In the meantime i can continue merrily along on my ti g4 powerbook (1.6GHz, Leopard)... my g4 tower hd died yesterday...I'm in the middle of a 40+ page web site design... good thing I back up to an external hd 2-3 times a day, and disks regularly. Cyrus Griffin wrote: Agreed. Leopard really takes advantage of the power those G5 towers have. It ran great on our dual 2.0Ghz G5. Runs smooth as butter :) -Elliott On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:00 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: No. Run Leopard. Its kernel is faster and there is more software available for it. - Dan. At 11:36 PM -0500 2/19/2010, Bill Chapman wrote: I just got a ppc G5 tower (Dual 2.0GHz ) today...you're saying Tiger is better on G5 than Leopard? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade Help Required
Yeah, one of these days... if for nothing more than to have it as an emergency backup... also I'll stay with tiger there so i can keep classic around. Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: Thanks Cyrus, my G5 is also Dual 2.0GHz... yeah I'm totally excited about getting such a powerhouse (499.00CDN) although I'll have to wait a bit since I need to grab an apple dvi to adc adapter for my flat-panel display. In the meantime i can continue merrily along on my ti g4 powerbook (1.6GHz, Leopard)... my g4 tower hd died yesterday...I'm in the middle of a 40+ page web site design... good thing I back up to an external hd 2-3 times a day, and disks regularly. New HD for the G4 then? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade Help Required
I have no idea... it might not even be the hard drive, although Friday morning it booted up at first and then when i started up dreamweaver the mac started to make a repeating noise and wouldn't progress...I tried a restart and got the question mark flashing (and interchanging with the old mac os logo). Tried starting up with the original tiger disks, but no hd found. Then started up with DiskWarrior 4... same thing, hd found. I'm not a techie so it could be something else as far as I know Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: Yeah, one of these days... if for nothing more than to have it as an emergency backup... also I'll stay with tiger there so i can keep classic around. Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: Thanks Cyrus, my G5 is also Dual 2.0GHz... yeah I'm totally excited about getting such a powerhouse (499.00CDN) although I'll have to wait a bit since I need to grab an apple dvi to adc adapter for my flat-panel display. In the meantime i can continue merrily along on my ti g4 powerbook (1.6GHz, Leopard)... my g4 tower hd died yesterday...I'm in the middle of a 40+ page web site design... good thing I back up to an external hd 2-3 times a day, and disks regularly. New HD for the G4 then? Just curious, but what kind of hard drive was it that died? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade Help Required
I'm a graphic artist currently designing web sites... you gave me info re VPC7,which is currently running well on my ti pb on leopard...I can't wait to try vpc on the g5 Christian Wacker wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: I just got a ppc G5 tower (Dual 2.0GHz ) today...you're saying Tiger is better on G5 than Leopard? With a Dual 2.0GHZ G5, you can easily run Leopard. I would even recommend it if you plan on doing anything besides just web browsing. (and even then, you'll be better off using the latest version that can run on it) Running Tiger is like... well... putting on a shirt from the 70's because some girl said you looked good in it the first time you wore it. It was good then, but there are better things out there for you now. Just my 2 cents. -Christian. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade Help Required
Thanks, Kasey, but my G4 tower has been unplugged, moved up an Ikea shelf and supplanted by my 'new' G5 which is awaiting a dvi-to-adc connector (ordered today from the apple store.ca) for my apple 17 flat panel cinema adc display. I'm not going to fool around with the damaged g4 anytime soon... i'm hard at work building a 40+ page web site on my pb, and once the connector arrives i'll dive into configuring that, or at least try to run the display from the pb, which has a dvi connector Kasey Smith wrote: Flip the side down and look at the top of the hard drive, and was it makeing the clunk, ca-clunk, ca-clunk noise? On Feb 20, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: I have no idea... it might not even be the hard drive, although Friday morning it booted up at first and then when i started up dreamweaver the mac started to make a repeating noise and wouldn't progress...I tried a restart and got the question mark flashing (and interchanging with the old mac os logo). Tried starting up with the original tiger disks, but no hd found. Then started up with DiskWarrior 4... same thing, hd found. I'm not a techie so it could be something else as far as I know Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: Yeah, one of these days... if for nothing more than to have it as an emergency backup... also I'll stay with tiger there so i can keep classic around. Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: Thanks Cyrus, my G5 is also Dual 2.0GHz... yeah I'm totally excited about getting such a powerhouse (499.00CDN) although I'll have to wait a bit since I need to grab an apple dvi to adc adapter for my flat-panel display. In the meantime i can continue merrily along on my ti g4 powerbook (1.6GHz, Leopard)... my g4 tower hd died yesterday...I'm in the middle of a 40+ page web site design... good thing I back up to an external hd 2-3 times a day, and disks regularly. New HD for the G4 then? Just curious, but what kind of hard drive was it that died? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrade Help Required
I just got a ppc G5 tower (Dual 2.0GHz ) today...you're saying Tiger is better on G5 than Leopard? Kasey Smith wrote: Um, 10.4.1, 10.4.2, all the way to 10.4.11 you can run Leo on that too but Tiger is better :) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: best unix-like system for my imac?
Ever notice how it's a penny for your thoughts, yet you put in your two-cents? Someone is making a penny on the deal! -Steven Wright Caleb S. Cupples wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 13:58 +, epic93d...@gmail.com wrote: Well, just to put in my two cents... I've used CRUX, ubuntu, fedora, and DSL linux. I've used ubuntu for about four years now, and it has been by far the easiest to use. Right after you install ubuntu, you can select drivers to install. If you have a reasonably recent machine you should be able to get everything you need. Codecs? Install them from the application manager Java? Ditto Flash? Same way as windows Ubuntu is very easy to use, but remember, there is no version of Adobe Flash for PowerPC Linux. Also, if you rely on things like Flip4Mac's Windows Media plugin, there are no versions of the Windows Media codecs for PowerPC Linux. Sun Java, see above. I am a die-hard Linux user, and have it on most of my daily-use machines (Exceptions are the G5 and the Power Macintosh 6500/250). There are limitations, though, and that's all I have to say on the subject. I personally love it on my PowerBook G3s, my iMac and my beige G3, not to mention my various PCs. Best *nix for someone who wants to tinker, go with any Linux distro with a PPC build. Best one for someone who wants it to just work? OS X. Just my $0.02, Caleb -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
'sleep while booting up'... yeah right sounds like this guy is pranking... Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Weird hard drive noises
You said you're new to mac?... fyi re keyboards and such, on usb-macs they're 'hot-pluggable', so don't panic if you start up without a keyboard or mouse attached which is what i do occasionally (i have a 4-mac lan, and every few months swap in my G3 iMac in place of my G4 powerbook and also switch back 'mid-stream' to a traditional mouse when i need more control of the cursor than what i get from my logitech marblemouse trackball and am too lazy to fire up my old pm 8600 which has my wacom tablet) Mike Styer wrote: No problem Bill. Anyway, I was sleeping it because I had te urge to use it, started it up and then realized that I didn't have a keyboard for it at the moment :) anyway, does anyone know why the HD might rev up during sleep mode? BTW, I just checked in system profiler and it is actually a Maxtor 10 GB drive. The person who I bought it from must have upgraded the HD before I bought it on eBay. I wonder why it acts strange during sleep mode sometimes... One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: It just sounded suspicious. My bad. To be more clear, I mean that the finder and GUI are still loading. I do nit mean that I am trying to sleep while on the apple logo or somthing like that. One mans trash is another mans treasure. In my case, this happens to be with old Macs :) On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: 'sleep while booting up'... yeah right sounds like this guy is pranking... Clark Martin wrote: On 2/14/10 3:34 PM, Mike Styer wrote: Sometimes I will sleep my iMac G3 350mHz 10.3 panther and it will sleep fine for a few seconds. But the hard drive will then rev up, coast, and then repeat. I think this only happens when I sleep it while it is booting up. Does anyone have any idea why this nights happen? Why are you sleeping it (or trying to) during boot? How are you sleeping it? When the HD is waking is the power light pulsing? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Indigo iMac DV 600 stops at a white screen
If you think Graphite is hard to nail down re colour, try to distiguish between Blueberry and Bondi! To me the Apple Gods should have named Indigo as Blueberry... where I come from blueberries are purple, not aqua... Kevin Avery wrote: Sorry I called this thing indigo or blue, I stand corrected, it is Graphite. Sorry, it looked sort of blue to me. And the guy that gave it to me told me it was a DV model. My mistake for not verifying it before posting. I apologize. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Google dropping support for older browsers in 2010
I've heard mention of IE7 being more of a 'shuffle' forward (from IE6) rather than a 'step'... although you'd think that at least security would be a little better. IE8 was really much faster, at least to install, on my VPC/WinXP; I was disappointed at having to dump it (due to pages rendering blank). My issue re IE6/7 involves lack of support for transparent PNGs. I don't know if IE8 has support yet. And unfortunately, IE still has 62% of the market: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/02/ie8-chrome-have-most-momentum-in-browser-wars.ars?utm_source=Ars+Technica+Newsletterutm_campaign=8453abf144-February_5_2010_Newsletterutm_medium=email Gorka L Martinez Mezo wrote: While the computers are usually closed by the IT department, Firefox reigns in my area. Unfortunately, hospital specific software (laboratory results and Radiology apps) only work on IE, so to use these we have to switch to IE. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Google dropping support for older browsers in 2010
Yeah, Firefox for one is climbing rapidly re market share on pcs... and my sites designed (Dreamweaver CS4; I'm not a programmer per se) on mac look the same on winxp in Safari, Firefox, etc. And from what I've seen re IE8 screenshots of my pages (I tried using IE8 on my G4 Powerbook running Leopard and VPC 7, but could only bring up blank pages although it actually loaded sites) at least the layouts are identical, and fonts are better rendered than in 6 and 7. I just feel better including IE6/7 at this time. Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 3, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: As a web site designer I'm still throwing condcoms at 1E6/7. The latest stats (Jan2010) show that IE6 still has 20.07% market share (IE7 has 17.1%, and IE8 has 22.31%). It's plummeting fast. You may feel 'free at last', but I saw an article recently where MS announced they would be supporting IE6 until 2014: http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-to-continue-ie6-support-until-2014/ I wonder whether that policy will change now, after the Great Chinese Hole was found. I would be foolhardy to ignore IE6 at this point, as much as I would like to... It depends. If you have to be open to all comers, then yeah, you're stuck; after all, you were just able to give up the IE4 stuff what, last week? 8-P For sites where you can reasonably demand that the users change, it's becoming very easy to drop it (and all you have to to is point to the recent googlehacking to get bosses to sign on!). What I'm tired of is websites still demanding that ONLY IE is allowed, particularly public-facing ones...like the AZ Board of Medicine. http://www.azmd.gov/ Go to their Physician Search page to see HTML atrocity. I've contacted them and their official response to Mac users is essentially 'GFY, got to the library and use a real computer' -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Google dropping support for older browsers in 2010
Thanks for the important info, Gorka. Many institutions are like your hospital I'm certain. The problem is that the older the browser, the less secure... those ie versions are full of holes, and on top of that eventually those will 'break' as the web pushes tech ever more forward... then people will have to upgrade or be left out. But I don't blame companies for not upgrading every time the latest greatest comes out; after all it's really expensive, especially in man hours, when a lot of people have to get used to a new 'environment'. You might want to mention the Firefox and Opera browsers to somebody there who has some clout... they work great on Windows as well as Mac, and they certainly must be more secure than anything MS is currently throwing at Windows users. Actually, Firefox has been cannibalizing IE market share, at an ever -increasing rate of speed, over the past few months from what I understand. Gorka L Martinez Mezo wrote: As a web site designer I'm still throwing condcoms at 1E6/7. The latest stats (Jan2010) show that IE6 still has 20.07% market share (IE7 has 17.1%, and IE8 has 22.31%). You may feel 'free at last', but I saw an article recently where MS announced they would be supporting IE6 until 2014: http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-to-continue-ie6-support-until-2014/ I would be foolhardy to ignore IE6 at this point, as much as I would like to... In my hospital until last year most computers (and we have many!) were using IE 6. Now many have been upgraded to IE7, but older models are still running with IE6. All computers use Windows XP Professional and there are no plans to move to Windows 7 in a near future. There a few older machines with Win 2000 or even Win 98, but disappearing fast. Gorka from Spain -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: John Doe's eMac
That happened to me when I won an eBay bid on a Powerbook last year. What I did was contact the seller through eBay and he told me how to change that... I forget what he told me, but it worked. Ramon Pubill wrote: I am posting on behalf of my 73 year old dad. He's beginning to get concerned that his new eMac has John Doe's eMac when we use the computer tab for finder windows. We just bought this eMac off eBay, it really doesn't belong to a guy called John Doe. So I created a new account on my dad's name, hoping it would fix that but No; the computer is still John Doe's eMac and we want to be able to change it. I am only familiar with some commands in Terminal so if it requires the use of such tool, I will use it with a lot of caution and need to be walked through please. We do not have OS disk at all, so if it requires a system re-install (which I hope it doesn't) then we might be out of luck. I am sure other people who buy used Mac have seen this before. I had an old G3 that was Bob's G3 but it didn't bother me; so I left it alone, used it for 2 years no problem. If it helps at all, our setup is: eMac 1.25Ghz OS 10.4.11 512MB RAM Thanks!! On behalf of: R. Pubill -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: John Doe's eMac
That's for local network ID I think... I call this computer 'Quicksilver' on my LAN; that's what it says in the sharing pane. Otherwise my system refers to 'bill's computer' Not sure, but System PreferencesAccountsPassword might be a clue... if it says John Doe there then it looks like the name is editable there I'd google the issue Mike wrote: It's easier than that, no need for terminal use! Fire up system preferences, and clock the sharing bit, and at the top is a text box for you to enter the computer name in. I think On 26 Dec 2009, at 10:37, Ramon Pubill claupub...@gmail.com wrote: I am posting on behalf of my 73 year old dad. He's beginning to get concerned that his new eMac has John Doe's eMac when we use the computer tab for finder windows. We just bought this eMac off eBay, it really doesn't belong to a guy called John Doe. So I created a new account on my dad's name, hoping it would fix that but No; the computer is still John Doe's eMac and we want to be able to change it. I am only familiar with some commands in Terminal so if it requires the use of such tool, I will use it with a lot of caution and need to be walked through please. We do not have OS disk at all, so if it requires a system re-install (which I hope it doesn't) then we might be out of luck. I am sure other people who buy used Mac have seen this before. I had an old G3 that was Bob's G3 but it didn't bother me; so I left it alone, used it for 2 years no problem. If it helps at all, our setup is: eMac 1.25Ghz OS 10.4.11 512MB RAM Thanks!! On behalf of: R. Pubill -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: John Doe's eMac
I didn't say it was the network name; I understand that in this case the
main purpose for naming the computer is to identify it to other
computers on the network ('Other computers on your local subnet can
access your computer at Quicksilver.local' is what it says on this
computer underneath the text box you mentioned).
But the fellow with the 'John Doe' issue needs to be using 'Accounts' to
deal with his problem, doesn't he?... my 'home' name 'billchapman', not
Quicksilver... I think that's what he has an issue with... the 'Finder'
panel
Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Dec 27, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Bill Chapman wrote:
That's for local network ID I think... I call this computer
'Quicksilver' on my LAN; that's what it says in the sharing pane.
Otherwise my system refers to 'bill's computer'
In the sharing there's a place to change the name of the computer,
it's not the network name but the text box in the first panel of the
sharing pane.
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Re: 10.4 causing problems with the wifi (again)
I don't know if this relates to your situation, but I'm about to install Virtual PC (with WinXP) on my OS X ppc and my info says that there is a way to have Win successfully join my wired mac lan. I'm on dsl. Christian Wacker wrote: I gave up on that, and have my iMac connected through a seperate router, problem solved. apparantly the telephone's own routers can't handle both a PC and a Mac, but can handle four PCs fine. I'll start another post with my other question. On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Christian Wacker wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 7:02 PM -0600 12/11/2009, Christian Wacker wrote: upgraded my iMac G3 to 10.4, and now i've got constant WiFi problems (again) I try to connect to the WiFi, using my netgear WG111V2, and it crashes the box. the box is ? The Internet Router\WiFi box, my iMac runs great at the moment, but it seems to like killing my internet. If your computer can crash your router you need a better router. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: 10.4 causing problems with the wifi (again)
Christian, thanks for the info... I'm really excited about having win on my mac altho I'm a die-hard machead... I need win to test my website designs in ie 6-7 (somebody kill those, please!... oh, wait... ie 8 and win 7 are on that case) on xp, although browsershots.org is really helpful, to a point... the ms learning curve will seem less intimidating if it's sandboxed in my mac backyard... i do have some experience in xp though. Christian Wacker wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: I don't know if this relates to your situation, but I'm about to install Virtual PC (with WinXP) on my OS X ppc and my info says that there is a way to have Win successfully join my wired mac lan. I'm on dsl. When you install the Virtual PC app, it will add a virtual Lan device to the system, allowing it to share your connection to your DSL, Windows will use this virtual connection, along with the special software on your Mac to connect it to your current LAN, and it will see the internet as if it was it's own machine. (I do alot of virtualization, and my virtual systems are always able to connect to the internet with the V-Lan connections) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: 10.4 causing problems with the wifi (again)
Yeah, the min speed on a mac for reasonable VPC 7.0.3 performance with WinXP pro is 700MHz.. my Quicksilver is 800mhz... if it's too slow (but nothing was slower for me than my first mac, a 25MHz Quadra 610) I'll load VPC up on my 1.6GHz titanium powerbook Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 12, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: (It will be interesting to see if a 350mhz PPC can run windows 7 as well as my 3.2ghz DualCore AMD system) No it won't be interesting at all, unless by 'interesting' and 'run as well as' you mean 'enormously boring' and 'because it takes four days to boot up'. ;-) It will run Windows 7 (if at all) about as well as a Pentium 166 would (if at all). As a general rule VPC ran about as fast as a real PC of roughly half the clock speed of the Mac. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Running a Tiger Beta on my G3?
I found there's a big difference between Panther and Tiger... or do you mean in the beta versions of each. Aside from that why not get Tiger full version off ebay... why screw around with betas; or maybe that's the point here? Elliott Price wrote: I agree, but I wouldn't think it would be that different. Like the OSX beta had the apple in the middle of the bar... That would be cool to run. But 10.4 betas can't be much different from the released version, there isn't even that much of a difference between 10.3 and 10.4. 10.4 is actually very stable; even on older and unsupported Macs. I rarely had/have any issues with it. Especially 10.4.11. 512 should work very well. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Dec 10, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Christian Wacker wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: What's the point of running a beta when the real version is released? It's neat to see how software progresses. I have 120gb of Windows betas and applications of the sort, and I find it interesting to see an OS evolve from one stage to the next It probably won't be that different, and probably a lot more glitchy. It probably can't be much worse than it already is =P Yeah, it'll run pretty well, considering. It also depends on how much RAM you have, the more the better. (10.4 will run on 92Mb, but NOT well at all... 128 is the minimum for decent performance.) So 512 will work well? -Christian -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Camera won't upload to iMac G5
I have no idea about your problem, but just out of curiosity, why are you running (Tiger) 10.4.6 and not Tiger 10.4.11? Just wondering... Melvyn Edith Halbert wrote: Recently I have been unable to import photos from my digital camera (Canon PowerShot S80) to my iMac G5 running 10.4.6. Formerly, the process was automatic: When I connected the camera via its USB cable, Canon's CameraWindow program would open and the camera screen would soon show that it was ready to transfer the new (or all) photos stored on the camera's SD card. Now I have to open CameraWindow manually from Applications, and after some delay it tells me No camera was found. I called Canon's help line and tried a number of things suggested by a very knowledgeable representative (he was not afraid of Macs!). First he asked if I was using the genuine Canon USB cable with no intervening hub -- yes, I was. Next I demonstrated that iPhoto also does not see the camera. Then I tried to open Image Capture manually; its icon bounced in the Dock for a while but all it did was freeze the computer. The rep then suggested I try another computer. As soon as I connected the camera to my wife's iMac Core 2 Duo (running 10.5.8), iPhoto opened, offered to import photos from the camera, and did so successfully. When I closed iPhoto and opened Image Capture manually, it also volunteered to import photos. These tests convinced me and the Canon rep that nothing was wrong with the camera, but there was a problem with the iMac G5. He could not help me further. On my own I have tried the following: Removed recently-installed third-party software on this iMac (specifically Perian, Flip4Mac, DefaultFolder X); stopped Classic; closed every open application; relaunched the Finder; and trashed the CameraWindow preferences -- all without effect. Then I disconnected all external devices (every USB cable except for the camera and the keyboard, all FireWire cables, and even the Ethernet cable) -- no effect. Short of re-installing Mac OS X, I'm out of ideas. Any suggestions? Could my recent installation of Adobe's latest version of Flash Player be relevant? [Please, no comments about the perils of using an old version of Mac OS X -- for almost three years, camera imports have been trouble-free under this OS.] -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
Anyone know how to install OS 8.6 (yeah, I know) on a G3 iMac slot load 350MHz? Robert Esposito wrote: You do not need XPostFacto. You need the correct Firmware upgrade and then a clean install. I have successfully done tis to iMac G3 400MHz and Panther plus iMac G4 600MHz and Tiger. I don't like Tiger on a G3 iMac. It works but slower than I would like. Panther seems faster for the G3 iMac but you give up many Tiger upgrades for the improved performance that Panther gives on the G3. On Nov 22, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Art wrote: On Nov 22, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I've installed Panther 10.3.9 on my slot-loading G3 iMac and my G3 iBook, without XPostFacto4... but I think you need that to install Tiger Don't think so -- I've had Tiger on my iMac DV SE400 forever but never even heard of XPostFacto prior to this thread. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: G3 Imac and OS X
That's true; I've installed Panther 10.3.9 on my slot-loading G3 iMac and my G3 iBook, without XPostFacto4... but I think you need that to install Tiger Bill Jim Scott wrote: On Nov 21, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Tom Coradeschi wrote: At 12:29 PM -0800 11/21/2009, Jasiu wrote: I know that there is something that I need to download before attempting to install OS 10.3 on a slot loading G3 Imac. But I don't have the link, can anyone help? Thanks There's a firmware update, can't give you the list readily, but somewhere on apple's website. You will also need XPostFacto to trick the installer into letting you install OSX on that machine, I am pretty sure. You can download it from http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Framework.cfm The 4.l.9f1 firmware update, as I said earlier, is available from Apple. All that is needed is to go online using OS 9.x, then use the Software Update control panel to see what updates are available. Of course, you should check first in Apple System ProfilerProduction informationBoot ROM version. The 4.l.9f1 firmware update may be installed already. It is not necessary to use XPostFacto to install OS X on ANY slot-loading G3 iMac. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Tiger install on Lime (333 MHz) iMac
I got Tiger CDs (with 9.2.2) in early 2008 off eBay (Canada)... they had plenty at the time I think my final bid was about $80.00 There are bids for Tiger full install (with 9.2.2) going on right now in fact Kasey Smith wrote: Tray Loaders can only boot from the hard drive and the CD drive. That's why i didn't suggest it. Anyway, just pull the drive and put it in a *PowerPC* computer that can boot from DVD and go from there. (If you do intel, it will either A)not boot the DVD or B) install an intel-specific version of OSX) On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Gary Fortman wrote: Do you have a way to install Tiger without the CDs? Pull the HD and attach it to a Mac that can run Tiger and has a DVD drive and do the install there. Another possibility is to use a USB DVD drive but that is iffy. Only some Macs can boot from USB. I've had a slot loading iMac boot OS 9 from USB but not OS X. I don't know about a tray loader though. On Nov 12, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: Yes, but it requires Tiger CDs, which are kind of rare. It will work though if you can get your hands on a set On Nov 12, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Elliott Price wrote: Xpost facto is another option; if you don't want to pull the HD. It'll install 10.4 on unsupported machines. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Nov 11, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: I just installed Tiger on my Blueberry iMac by pulling its hard drive, putting it in my PowerMac, installing Tiger, and then putting the hard drive back in. You might want to know that Dashboard is slow on these, but still useable. On Nov 11, 2009, at 11:34 AM, ./aal wrote: And please people, trim your quotes. There were four copies of the footer here. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com mailto:imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: atheist insult?
ditto here... my inbox is choking Kasey Smith wrote: i agree... no one cares On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Tom Coradeschi wrote: Don't you all have lives? Please go live them and stop filling my inbox with this drivel. -- tom coradeschi tc...@skylands.ibmwr.org -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: atheist insult?
'boogie man'... you mean Steve Ballmer? lol Dan wrote: At 3:17 PM -0800 11/12/2009, Dennis Faulkner wrote, html stripped: Personally, I feel middle of the road on religion Gods come and go as cultures change. Only the Boogie Man is forever. End of OT thread please. - Dan. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: .....Upgrading G3 memory
Some G3s, like the b/w tower, shipped with OS 8.6 Yeah, I'd like to get 8.6 on my old G3s but can't even with PostFacto4. Po-en Tsai wrote: On 9/11/2009, at 2:43 PM, Ernie Chorny wrote: Thomas - My 450 MHz slot loader DVD iMac G3 will recognize either of my two 512 mb memory modules in either slot but if both of them are put in (in any order) it won't boot until I press the button on the side with the little triangle on it - then it comes up fine and I can check that it shows 1 gb of ram memory. I'm running OS 8.6 - like to hear if anyone has a solution. Ernie Uh, OS 8.6 is super ancient - Why don't you upgrade? I'm pretty sure it [OS 8.6] doesn't support a full GB. Anyway, how did you get 8.6 on your 450MHz G3? The minimum is the shipping OS, which, for your iMac is OS 9... /Thanks,/ /Po-en Tsai/ / / /-- eMac G4 1GHz running OSX 10.5, Superdrive, 60gb HDD with 1GB ram. Super speedy! iMac G3 Indigo 350 MHz, running OSX 10.4, 10.3 and OS 9.2.2, 80gb HDD with 768MB ram. Rather Fast!/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Loading Problems
I just went to msnbc.msn and the page loaded in 4-5 seconds... you must be on dial-up. I'm on DSL, using Safari 4.0.3 on a G4 800MHz 40Gb running Tiger 10.4.11 Dan wrote: At 7:32 AM -0800 11/5/2009, Thunder 1 wrote: On Oct 31, 8:25 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 3:05 PM -0700 10/31/2009, Thunder 1 wrote: iMac C2Duo with 2GB RAM Has anyone else had a problem getting msnbc sites to load? [snip] If you could provide the actual URLs involved, and a traceroute to 'em, we could take a look. [top posting corrected] Here ya go, Dan. This is just a sample of the problem msnbc site. Every msnbc page either takes forever to load or simply puts me do sleep waiting for it. Let me know what you come up with please. BTW, I'm using Safari 4.0.3 Every msnbc page? There must be a million pages there. Ok. Today, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ loads in about 40 seconds. I see one (blocked) flash item. And there are TWO pop-under windows. One of those windows is empty and the other is filled with broken graphics icons (web server failed to provide the image). Safari's Activity window shows half a dozen graphics never loaded, on the main page. If I disable ClickToFlash, and reload that page, it never finishes loading. Looks like typical MS crapland to me. The page layout is rather poor. It's wider than my browser window - and widens more each time I enlarge the window. heh. Just noticed a section on that page called Resource Guide. At first thought, I figured it was links to background information on the stories. Nope -- it's all advertising. LOL IMO, there are better places to get your news on the 'net. You don't need your news filtered thru MS goggles and craplets. NBC should be embarrassed.. - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I manage without Classic?
I entered the modern mac era january 2008 with a G4 tower running Panther 10.3.9 which I soon upgraded to Tiger 10.4.11. I, too wanted to retain Classic so I didn't get a G5. I also have a G3 B/W running Panther and Mac OS 9.2.2. Also a G4 Powerbook 1.6GHz running Leopard 10.5.8. My main production Mac is an old PowerPC 8600 running MacOS 8.6 The G4 Tiger machine is the one I spend 95% of my time on. Three other Macs are on my LAN and I use DSL. As a matter of fact you might want to hang onto your G3 as a back-up Mac. A savvy user will have at least 2 working macs. I work in web and graphic design so it's wise to be able to cover one's behind in case of disaster. You don't need to buy a new mac; I've always bought second-hand, two off eBay. Judith Rosenbaum wrote: Dear List: I'm considering the purchase of a G5 with Leopard installed; however, since I'll be upgrading from a G3 running OSX.2.8, I'd like to know what problems I'd be facing if I don't have Classic on the new(er) machine. My needs are simple: I mainly use Office, browse the Net, download and crop photos. No music, no videos. I don't need a 20 or 24 screen, or Intel - just an newer OS that will bring me into this century. My G3 is having issues (I back up often) so I'm more than ready to replace it. I know that this has been addressed before, but I have been unable to locate the e-mails that I so carefully printed and filed. I'm sorry for the redundant question, but please know that I appreciate your help. Regards, Judith Rosenbaum --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Cooling issues with my iMac G3 blueberry
Re the grooves on the underside for carrying the G3 iMac... when I got my iMac about 5 years ago and had to take it on the bus, and then carry it a couple of blocks, I improvised by folding a couple of store brochures on the underside of the handle and that saved my fingers. It's a slot-loader, and thanks to you guys I'll be extra careful when transfering the mac on and off the shelf (I whip it out every few months for nostalgia reasons). Christian Wacker wrote: It is a cooling issue, but I think I can live with it unless I absolutely need to keep my iMac on for more than 4 hours (by that time I would probably be found walking in slow motion to keep up with the speed of this ancient machine) I am still too used to my fancy PC desktop where I can do 15 things at once and still see no lag... on this iMac... playing a song and opening gMail can be hazardous. I agree that the handles on these slotloaders are terrible. The only reason I never use it is that our IT guy at school has gotten rid of most of them, and i've seen him drop more than one and retain the handle in his hand. My tray loader has one of the sturdiest handles I've ever seen, wish I could get one of those on my desktop PC... yet the grooves on the underside seem to gouge into your hand after about 10 minutes of carrying it... i'm going to do some expiramenting later this week with the clearance inside the bugger, and see if I could mount a fan on the underside of the system, right on the processor (I hope that little black heatsink is the processor) and make a duct that goes up the side to just force it cooler. thanks for the help -Christian On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, but I agree the slot-loader's handles seem much more flimsy. It's probably because they nixed those handy little vents above the handle area. Anyways, getting back on topic, from what I can see it looks like it should be easy to cut away that hand-sheild part. Mounting a fan in it, however... might be more difficult. You might be able (If you have the right tools) to cut out a hole so that the fan will sit on some plastic tabs or something, and screw into them. Like, cut it in a square just the size of the fan, with the corners cut so that the fan screw holes meet the plastic. That's what I would try to do (If I was going to start hacking up one of those cute little guys... which I probably wouldn't) -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Sep 30, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Jim Scott wrote: On Sep 30, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Clark Martin wrote: Elliott Price wrote: It would seem like the handle isn't sturdy enough... But it is. I have four G3 iMacs and never had any problems with the handle. Also, just FYI - That part under the handle, that keeps your hand out of the CRT is part of the colored plastic, it won't come off unless you cut it out of the rest of the case. I've shlepped around a couple of hundred G3 iMacs many (too many) times each. I've never had a problem with the handle. Well, I've had the handle on a couple of slot-loading G3 iMacs come off as I was lifting/carrying them. It was one of those slow-motion moments each time, feeling the weight suddenly go away and then watching the iMac descend to the concrete and crack into smithereens. Except that once my right foot got in the way first. Yeah, ouch! Early G3 iMacs, the tray-loaders, have a really strong and almost break-proof handle design. The slot-loaders have a very flimsy design, with only four screws holding the handle to the case. After my two accidents, I always look at the areas where each of the four clear plastic screw studs on the handle are located. If there is any cracking, hazing or other sign that even one stud is about to let go, I pick up and carry the slot-loader by the bottom of the case. Yes, the clear plastic handle also has some small plastic studs around the periphery that are melted where they penetrate the colored top case. But that's a poor excuse for attachment, and every iMac I've touched (hundreds) in the last couple of years has long since had those studs popped loose so that you can see as well as feel the whole handle assembly flex when you lift the iMac. Bad design for lifting, even though Apple's intent was to create more ventilation area around the handle than in the fan-cooled tray-loaders (to stay on-topic, sort of). Jim Scott --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to
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I got Tiger off eBay for about half the original price. You can't get original discs for old mac software from apple or apple stores Nestamicky wrote: On 9/24/09 12:45 AM, williamd wrote: Really? All i can ever find there are the latest os and apps. Snow Leopard, Snow Leopard, Snow Leopard... ah the hell with it. I feel your pain, Bill. It's not easy to find old stuff on their website. And really frustrating. At times Google is more useful when searching. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: PRAM Battery replacement in a G3 iMac BlueBerry?
Go to OWC (Other World Computing)... they have batteries and pretty much everything else re Macs, new and legacy. They're legit; I've bought stuff there before. I think mac uses Tadiran pram batteries. http://eshop.macsales.com/Search/Search.cfm?Ntt=pram%20batteryNtk=PrimaryN=0Ns=P_Popularity%7c1 -artzy65 Christian Wacker wrote: Hey everyone. Thanks to you all for helping me with my dumb questions about my iMac, and i've only got one left. I've got the Wireless solved. I have the system slated to be upgraded later today. I have almost everything set up just right... just one problem my PRAM battery is shot. What battery do I need? (I was told it needs a 1\2AA 3.6v battery) and where does it go? (how do I open this system up?) Thanks in advance, and I apologize for my annoyances I may have caused, --Christian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
