Restoring iTunes library following clean install of Lion?
Greetings y'all, I am reposting since someone who might have a suggestion could have easily been overwhelmed by the blizzard of recent traffic, and I'm really out of ideas. While using SnowLeopard, I backed up my iTunes library to an external drive and installed Lion via a DVD (HD was completely erased). Upon launching iTunes, it did not prompt for a library. I attempted to copy my backed up folder into /users/userName/music/iTunes/iTunes Media, but receive a message indicating that I do not have access to the hard drive and if I proceed the data won't be visible.(???) I went into disk utility and repaired my permissions but that did not vary the result. I was able to successfully copy my library into .../music. Under iTunes advanced preferences I set the folder to .../music/BackedUpFolder but my content is not visible. I only have the getting started videos and options to search for or purchase music. I could search my external drive, but that would not restore my iPhone content? I seem to recall being able to restore a library from Windows to SnowLeopard this way using an earlier version of iTunes, so perhaps I'm over looking a step? Also strange that I don't have permission to access that folder despite having administrative privileges and the fact that parental controls are disabled? TIA for any suggestions and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Solution to xCode 4.1 won't install on Lion.
Daniel, Thanks for the suggestion. Before reading your post I received an off-list note advising that I go into terminal and enter: killall AlertAll and the install appeared to have completed successfully. Hopefully that iTunesHelper app won't come back to haunt me later. Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Daniel Miller To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:52 AM Subject: RE: xCode 4.1 won't install on Lion. Hi, You need to go into activity Monitor and quit iTunes Helper. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: xCode 4.1 won't install on Lion. Greetings, I installed Lion from DVD and completely erased my HD in the process. I then acquired xCode 4.1 from the Mac app store. During installation I received a message admonishing me to quit iTunes in order to continue the installation. I have a modicum of trouble following this directive because iTunes is not running; I didn't start it, nor can I find any instance of it when I cycle through open apps via command-tab. The install appears to hang at 79%. I restarted and unchecked the restore box, killed off the developer folder and tried again and experienced the identical scenario. I tried starting and quitting iTunes and turning off voiceOver to no avail. Some cursory Googling uncovered a recent bug where the in xCode installation would hang at 999% even though the product was installed. This did not seem applicable because I found no mention of the iTunes dialog, and this was purportedly addressed. As I know that Nick S and others are running xCode on Lion I assume there's a work-around I've not discovered? TIA for any suggestions and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Restoring an iTunes library in Lion and Itunes 10.4?
Greetings y'all, While using SnowLeopard, I backed up my iTunes library to an external drive and installed Lion via a DVD (HD was completely erased). Upon launching iTunes, it did not prompt for a library. I attempted to copy my backed up folder into /users/userName/music/iTunes/iTunes Media, but receive a message indicating that I do not have access to the hard drive and if I proceed the data won't be visible.(???) I went into disk utility and repaired my permissions but that did not vary the result. I was able to successfully copy my library into .../music. Under iTunes advanced preferences I set the folder to .../music/BackedUpFolder but my content is not visible. I only have the getting started videos and options to search for or purchase music. I could search my external drive, but that would not restore my iPhone content? I seem to recall being able to restore a library from Windows to SnowLeopard this way using an earlier version of iTunes, so perhaps I'm over looking a step? Also strange that I don't have permission to access that folder despite having administrative privileges and the fact that parental controls are disabled? TIA for any suggestions and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: updates for Itunes and Iwork
Mary, Lion installed with iTunes 10.3. 10.4 sadly came in via a system update, so you could be selective. I don't know whether the app store would refresh files so as to quoianside with software updates. Since Lion just came out I doubt they altered the install package to include the iTunes update this quickly (if they would even follow this practice at all). Best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Mary Otten To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:00 AM Subject: Re: updates for Itunes and Iwork David, I don't want ITunes 10.4. I want to keep my 10.3, and if that's not possible when upgrading to Lion, then I'll wait until the bug has been fixed. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
xCode 4.1 won't install on Lion.
Greetings, I installed Lion from DVD and completely erased my HD in the process. I then acquired xCode 4.1 from the Mac app store. During installation I received a message admonishing me to quit iTunes in order to continue the installation. I have a modicum of trouble following this directive because iTunes is not running; I didn't start it, nor can I find any instance of it when I cycle through open apps via command-tab. The install appears to hang at 79%. I restarted and unchecked the restore box, killed off the developer folder and tried again and experienced the identical scenario. I tried starting and quitting iTunes and turning off voiceOver to no avail. Some cursory Googling uncovered a recent bug where the in xCode installation would hang at 999% even though the product was installed. This did not seem applicable because I found no mention of the iTunes dialog, and this was purportedly addressed. As I know that Nick S and others are running xCode on Lion I assume there's a work-around I've not discovered? TIA for any suggestions and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Move Addict
Hi Jeff, If you purchased MoveAddict from the App store, the file: moveAddict Preferences.app was probably not included in the package. If you don't have that file you'll need to obtain the installation package supplied at the MoveAddict site and copy that file from the accessibility folder. Then to prevent MoveAddict from starting launch moveAddict Preferences, and locate the applicable option under the startup tab. HTH. Geoff On Jul 16, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: I have found an update in the Mac App Store but, I can't install it until I close Move Adict. Can anybody tell me how I might close it? Thx, Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderating advice - was network problems.
With all due respect, Carolyn, since it was obvious after over 17 hours that I intended to let Mark have the last word, what was your post intended to accomplish other than an attempt to go on your typical power trip and publicly embarrass Mark and me? As Mark implicitly stated in his introductory mod note there was a perception among some (Mark privately told us hundreds, though I'd love to see him produce all those e-mails) that the mod team was excessively negative and intrusive. As I don't believe this perception existed when Cara and me had the primary mod responsibilities, let your ex mod Uncle Geoff give you a little advice which is worth every penny you paid for it smile. There are no right answers, and everyone is bound to make mistakes, but it really helps to not consider the job a power trip and exercise a modicum of judgement. I tried to never lose site of the fact that the list belonged to the subscribers, and that my mod notes also took up band width and hence needed to be posted sparingly. I saw the job as a balancing act to be as unobtrusive as possible while protecting the time investment of subscribers. To that end it was some times necessary to take administrative action, but I got no joy from doing that and tried to only use it as a last resort. Therefore, in the case of off topic threads, I'd usually look at the time stamps. If a certain inteveral had past, I would conclude that the topic died a natural death and accordingly wouldn't consume everyone's time beating a dead horse. This can't be done perfectly, and sometimes new posts would straggle in long after the topic appeared to have died. Some times I would jump in quickly if I saw a potential for strong opinions and flaming, such as someone posting that all blind people want to get everything for free. As for the specifics of this case, I would probably have admonished Mark and me privately. This way I would avoid further wasting everyone's band width and publicly embarrassing anyone. As an ex mod, I knew that my choice to post my comment to Mark was inappropriate, so I'm not sure what a private note would have accomplished other than to state the obvious. This is why I chose not to continue the discussion. My concern remains that when a moderator posts what amounts to a private message, this sets a bad example. I've seen Mark do this several times previously which is why I was driven to express my concern publicly even though I knew better :) -- I was reacting to the below and similar posts where the entire list was advised (for example) of certain administrative actions such as changing a subscribers e-mail address when a private note to the affected party and rest of the mod team would have sufficed. I viewed helping people off list the same way, though I'd keep it on list if the topic might be of general interest. But to address your immediate concern, the topic has long been closed as far as I was concerned, but thanks for the belated suggestion -- now we all continue to realize that you are the all powerful mod smile. Best regards. Geoff On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:04 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hello Mark and Geoff: With all due respect to both of you, Please take this discussion off list. It really is kind of off topic, and not conducive to the resourcefulness we're striving for. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Friendly, Carolyn On Jul 14, 2011, at 2:56 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Geoff, I truly don't understand your apparent hostility towards me nor your desire to publicly insult someone to whom you don't bother to extend the most basic of courtesies. Are you incapable of asking me a question without attacking my character? Geoff, it has been said by those wiser than I, that people tend to view others as they view themselves; something we should all keep in mind before we attack those with whom we have never met. Regardless of the mean-spirited tone of your post, I am certain that you are a nice person who wishes to help others and this is why I have decided to pay you the respect you clearly do not think I deserve by both ignoring your antagonistic remarks and answering your question said answer being the following: The reason I responded to Ed, on-list, is so that other list members would know that a reply was posted. Moreover, it has been my experience that few, if any, tend to reply to network issues for the reasons stated in the post to which I am referring. Some members, who receive few or, in some cases, no replies to a question may take it personally and I, like you, don't want anyone to feel as though they are being ignored, pre-judged, or attacked. That is All. [The Gospel According To Mark, Chapter 221.] (Big Smile) Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler
Re: Network problems
Hi Mark, Other than illustrating your proclivity toward boundless narsisism, what purpose was served by sending this to the list? Best regards. Geoff On Jul 13, 2011, at 4:12 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Ed. Troubleshooting network connectivity issues can be one of the most challenging a support person can face. However, rather than engaging in lengthy email correspondence, please send me your contact telephone number, off-list, and I will endeavor to assist you. Please include the city/state/time zone in which you live and the best time to call. Mark On Jul 13, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello Listers, I am having some issues with seeing my network hard drive. My drive is plugged into a NetGear wireless hub. I can not see the hub or the drive plugged into it with my MacBook Pro. My MBP is running the latest version of the OS. Please help me figure it out. If need be , contact me off list at edworr...@bresnan.net Thanks ED please check out my music at http://soundcloud.com/blinded Follow me on twitter at http://twitter.com/#!/blindworrell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a couple of trackpad commander questions
Hi Donna and others, For me the quickest solution is to make extensive use of the preview pane. I also found it helpful to go into VO utility under navigation and uncheck the box labeled: Automatically interact when using tab key. Though I can interact with the preview pane text by placing a finger on the trackpad while pressing control, I find it more efficient to just press tab and the text is usually read automatically. I can skim through by moving my finger on the trackpad. To reply I press command-r. On high traffic lists such as this one, I turn on threaded view, and can then expand/contract threads via the right and left arrow keys respectively. I absolutely love the trackpad, but one gotcha (at least for me) is that while composing text, my palm hits somewhere on the trackpad and randomly moves my focus. I try to remember to always turn off trackpad commander during any data entry. Of course YMMV, but if you're comfortable with the IOS interface, you'll probably like getting away from the five key vo commands :). Please feel free to contact me off list if necessary. Best regards. Geoff On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:51 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Donna: Well, I had been using the trackpad with some success, particularly for continuous read text. I have had success previously working with mail in the past. But, I just tried to reply to your post using the trackpad to get in place to type, and got all of nowhere. I can interact with scroll area to read from the top of a message, but trying to double-tap on reply to gets me nowhere. Also, I typically interact with my messages list to move down subject lines, and enter on anything I want to read But, on the trackpad, I had to stop interacting with messages just to select yours to try to work with. Either some things are broken/changed, or I need a quick refresher course. I'm guessing it's the latter. But, now you've got me curious. I'll let you know what I find. Carolyn On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Jim, Colin, and all, Not sure why, but this isn't working for me. In fact, I'm having abysmal results with the trackpad commander as a whole. Does anyone seriously use this thing? The only column I can get it to read in mail is the mailbox column, despite swiping left and right and having it tell me I've moved to a different column. Moreover, the text that is spoken when I try and navigate with Trackpad Commander isn't the same as that which is spoken when I use the arrow keys. I've tried all this while interacting and not interacting. If anyone is really using the Trackpad commander, I'd appreciate any pointers. I've used an iphone since the 3gs was released in 2009, so I'm really surprised by this. Best, Donna On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote: According to keyboard help, you are supposed to be able to hold down the the control key and tap to jump to a linked item, such as moving from the messages table in mail to the text. I can get this to accknowledge this gesture in keyboard help, but for some reason, I cannot get it to work in the mail program. Thanks On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Esther, thanks for this info. I knew that there are some gestures that are different from or not present on the iPhone, so I'm sure I'll find the help section very useful. I'm really surprised that there isn't a way to open an email message using the trackpad. that seems like a major oversight, particularly given that this obviously works on the iPhone. It's interesting, too, because doubletapping does work for opening an app. But, at least I know I wasn't missing something, either in regards to this or having all columns of the messages table read (another major oversight imho) Cheers, Donna On Jul 9, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Donna, 1. There's a section in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (Chapter 11 on Using VoiceOver Gestures) that describes using TrackPad Commander. Use VO-H to bring up the help menu and press g to go to the Getting Started Guide and return. Open the web item rotor with VO-U and press g e s to get the two relevant sections (Chapter 11 and Appendix A listing the Commands and Gestures). If you want the list of standard gestures, go directly to Appendix A and navigate to the section on VoiceOver standard gestures. (I'd use VO-U for the web rotor and press s t.) A lot of these will be familiar to you from using the iPhone, but there are some other ones like going to the dock or menu bar (two finger double tap near bottom or top of trackpad), or opening the application or window chooser menus (two finger double tap along left or right sides of the trackpad), and changing how VoiceOver reads text (word, line, sentence, paragraph) by pressing the Command key while your finger touches the trackpad, that are different.
detecting c++ compiler errors in terminal.
Greetings all, Thanks much to Chris, Zack and anyone else who might be willing to spend some time getting me started. I compiled a simple c++ file via the g++ command. Despite receiving no indication of an error, the executable did not reflect my changes. My error may be relevant, so I'll mention it here. I changed an expression in the cout statement from intVar ** 2 to intVar * intVar and then the resulting executable reflected my changes. Other than changing the cout statement, I presume there is a way to know when a newer version does not compile? I did an ls, but there did not appear to be a listing file. TIA for any/all suggestions and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
XCode/C++ integer assignment from console.
Greetings all,
I am getting started with C++ using XCode 4.0.2.
The following was created as a C++ command line tool. The objective of this
main.cpp code was to accept a n integer from the console and display it:
#include iostream
using namespace std;
int main() {
int num;
cout Please enter an integer: ;
cin num;
cout Thanks for typing. You entered: num endl;
}
Upon running this code via command-r I receive the message that output was
generated. The log window appears to stop and prompt me as expected -- I see
the following:
GNU gdb 6.3.50-20050815 (Apple version gdb-1518) (Sat Feb 12 02:52:12 UTC 2011)
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as x86_64-apple-darwin.tty /dev/ttys000
[Switching to process 10756 thread 0x0]
Please enter an integer:
When I enter an integer (e.g. 9) the following text appears:
Please enter an integer: 9
Thanks for typing. You entered: 60106
Program ended with exit code: 0
Initializing num (ie int num = 0;) causes the garbage to disappear , except
that the initialized value is always displayed regardless what I enter in
response to the prompt.
I tried building a unix executable and running it from terminal, but the
results did not vary. An item in Google suggested running debug in standard
debug mode, but from what I can find this may no longer be applicable in xCode
4?
If anyone can offer a suggestion I would be most appreciative. Perhaps there
is another list that is mor appropriate for this type of query?
Best regards.
Geoff
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Re: XCode/C++ integer assignment from console.
Hello Zack,
Thanks so much for looking into this. You indirectly answered one of my
questions -- it's unnecessary to create an xCode project just to build and run
a simple .cpp file (yay!!!).
Having not used Unix except for a very brief period in the early 80s when VI
was a line editor, perhaps you or someone else following this thread can
indulge a few novice questions. I gather VI is better for creating a .cpp file
than the textEdit app? If so, why? What is the process for building and
running from the command line?
Thanks again and best regards.
Geoff
On Jul 5, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
Hi Jeff,
Interesting. I copied and pasted your program, exactly as given, from the
email to a vi editing session and compiled it from the terminal. The output
was what you would expect, i.e. it worked correctly.
I'm not sure why Xcode would give you a different result with such a simple
program, and am afraid I'm just learning to use it myself, so know very
little about it.
Very confused,
Zack.
On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
Greetings all,
I am getting started with C++ using XCode 4.0.2.
The following was created as a C++ command line tool. The objective of this
main.cpp code was to accept a n integer from the console and display it:
#include iostream
using namespace std;
int main() {
int num;
cout Please enter an integer: ;
cin num;
cout Thanks for typing. You entered: num endl;
}
Upon running this code via command-r I receive the message that output was
generated. The log window appears to stop and prompt me as expected -- I
see the following:
GNU gdb 6.3.50-20050815 (Apple version gdb-1518) (Sat Feb 12 02:52:12 UTC
2011)
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as x86_64-apple-darwin.tty /dev/ttys000
[Switching to process 10756 thread 0x0]
Please enter an integer:
When I enter an integer (e.g. 9) the following text appears:
Please enter an integer: 9
Thanks for typing. You entered: 60106
Program ended with exit code: 0
Initializing num (ie int num = 0;) causes the garbage to disappear , except
that the initialized value is always displayed regardless what I enter in
response to the prompt.
I tried building a unix executable and running it from terminal, but the
results did not vary. An item in Google suggested running debug in
standard debug mode, but from what I can find this may no longer be
applicable in xCode 4?
If anyone can offer a suggestion I would be most appreciative. Perhaps
there is another list that is mor appropriate for this type of query?
Best regards.
Geoff
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Compiling C++ in terminal - wasXCode/C++ integer assignment from console.
Making a little progress. I since learned that I should be able to build my
foo executable in terminal by going to the directory and entering:
g++ foo.cpp -o foo.
If I understand correctly assuming a clean compile, I should be able to run the
executable by entering /foo?
If I enter just the command without a slash, I receive the command not found
message, where as when I proceed the command with a slash, it indicates that
the file or directory does not exist.
When I enter vi filename I can see my file, but have not yet ascertained how
to exit the editor and get back to a command prompt?
Again, TIA for any info or documentation you can point me to describing how to
get going with terminal.
Best regards.
Geoff
On Jul 5, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
Hello Zack,
Thanks so much for looking into this. You indirectly answered one of my
questions -- it's unnecessary to create an xCode project just to build and
run a simple .cpp file (yay!!!).
Having not used Unix except for a very brief period in the early 80s when VI
was a line editor, perhaps you or someone else following this thread can
indulge a few novice questions. I gather VI is better for creating a .cpp
file than the textEdit app? If so, why? What is the process for building
and running from the command line?
Thanks again and best regards.
Geoff
On Jul 5, 2011, at 6:08 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
Hi Jeff,
Interesting. I copied and pasted your program, exactly as given, from the
email to a vi editing session and compiled it from the terminal. The output
was what you would expect, i.e. it worked correctly.
I'm not sure why Xcode would give you a different result with such a simple
program, and am afraid I'm just learning to use it myself, so know very
little about it.
Very confused,
Zack.
On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
Greetings all,
I am getting started with C++ using XCode 4.0.2.
The following was created as a C++ command line tool. The objective of
this main.cpp code was to accept a n integer from the console and display
it:
#include iostream
using namespace std;
int main() {
int num;
cout Please enter an integer: ;
cin num;
cout Thanks for typing. You entered: num endl;
}
Upon running this code via command-r I receive the message that output was
generated. The log window appears to stop and prompt me as expected -- I
see the following:
GNU gdb 6.3.50-20050815 (Apple version gdb-1518) (Sat Feb 12 02:52:12 UTC
2011)
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as x86_64-apple-darwin.tty /dev/ttys000
[Switching to process 10756 thread 0x0]
Please enter an integer:
When I enter an integer (e.g. 9) the following text appears:
Please enter an integer: 9
Thanks for typing. You entered: 60106
Program ended with exit code: 0
Initializing num (ie int num = 0;) causes the garbage to disappear , except
that the initialized value is always displayed regardless what I enter in
response to the prompt.
I tried building a unix executable and running it from terminal, but the
results did not vary. An item in Google suggested running debug in
standard debug mode, but from what I can find this may no longer be
applicable in xCode 4?
If anyone can offer a suggestion I would be most appreciative. Perhaps
there is another list that is mor appropriate for this type of query?
Best regards.
Geoff
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Re: Trying to set up growl
Hi Shannon, Me thinks that either you have an old version, or something got fubared during the install process. As Geoff said, all growlable apps automatically register. On my system this list includes: Adium, Growl, moveAddict, Skype, and Pulsar. The fact that Growl is not on your list is the reason for my theory. There was a recent update to Growl which may not be included in other app's installations, so you may want to Google up the Growl site and install (or reinstall) the current version. Best regards. Geoff On Jun 26, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Shannon Dyer wrote: For somr reason, it only shows me one application, which is the twitter client I use. It doesn't allow me to set what notifications i'd like though. It just makes random sounds at me. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Jun 26, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Geoff Shang wrote: On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, Shannon Dyer wrote: I have installed growl. I'm wondering how to set it up and customize it to work with specific applications in specific ways. All of Growl's stuff is in System Preferences. You can set up how it acts by default and how it works with specific applications. Applications that can use Growl will register with it automatically. If you choose the Applications tab in Growl Preferences, you can see each application that has registered with Growl. You can blanket turn on and off all notifications for that application by checking or unchecking the item in the applications list, or select one and press Configure to fine-tune the notification settings for that app. Note: Don't check Hide All Notifications in the general Growl stuff, otherwise you won't get any notifications. I guess that's a good way to temporarily mute it. Let me know if you need more help. HTH, Geoff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Contacting a Mod/Owner
Carolyn already listed the mods, but a more generic answer for GoogleGroups is listname+ow...@googlegroups.com, so you almost had it right except for the missing plus sign between the list name and the word owner. HTH. Geoff On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: I have a question for the list owners, but I cannot for the life a me figure out on the googlegroups page wher3e to go to write you guys. It used to be fairly straight forward, but all a sudden, I dono what Google's done to their web site, but frankly, it's now a mess! Obviously, unlike with Yahoogroups, I cannot just write to listname-ow...@googlegroups.com That bounces, if I try. So... would one of you all please get back with me to address my question off list? I hate clogging the list asking this, but I honestly at this time see no other way. Sorry for the inconvenience. clgillan...@gmail.com Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
DVDRemaster is 90% off in the app store this weekend.
Greetings all, I don't know if this is applicable to all Mac app stores world wide, but in the US, DVD Remaster version 7 which regularly sells for $50 is on sale this weekend for $5. Information in the macvisionaries mail archive indicates that the developer worked with voiceOver users so as to improve accessibility even though the app was already very usable. Though I own this app, I am embarrassed to confess that I can not speak to this from personal experience; I grabbed DR7 a few months ago when the Macupdate promo site featured it for 50% off, but have not yet played with it; should have waited :). This brings me to a question. When an app alters their licensing algorithm and migrates to the app store, will this affect upgrade pricing? The announcement letter stated that they are offering this promotion because the app store can not ascertain whether a previous version is registered, and they wanted to offer an upgrade path to all existing customers. Once moved to the app store, can a vender offer upgrade pricing? If so, I would assume that those who are registered under the old licensing algorithm would be SOL? My question then is whether those who already have the current version should consider repurchasing at this price so as to preserve an upgrade path? Best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Windows opening automatically in Sidebar
Hello Michael, If you're not subscribed to MobileMe you may want to go into finder preferences - sidebar and disable your iDisk. HTH. Geoff On Jun 15, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello everyone, I have a problem that is causing some annoyance. Whenever I go to the Sidebar in Finder and start arrowing through choices there, windows open automatically. This is very annoying, and I am at a loss as to how to solve it. I went into the Finder preferences and the Spring-loaded windows option is unchecked. Does anyone know what else could be the culprit? Thanks in advance, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
My swan song mod note.
Greetings y'all, Please forgive the cross post, but my content is applicable to both lists and only has a couple references specific to VIPhone. I will always be grateful to Cara for entrusting me with the task of assisting her to manage these lists over the last year. As I saw it, my responsibility was to balance the need to stay out of the way as much as possible against curbing the natural proclivities of large groups to descend into complete chaos. Setting limits is never easy for anyone, and yet these lists have so many valuable contributors who have consistently been incredibly generous about sharing their knowledge and time, it seemed important to guide the content such that the commitment necessary to follow them remained a worth while investment. My reasoning was that if control mostly ruled over Chaos, not only would Maxwell Smart and agent 99 remain employed, but people who actually might have a life outside following lists would want to hang around a while hence they would continue to be valuable resources. I did my best, though I sure made my share of mistakes (just ask shameless smile). On June 3rd it became clear that I am not a good fit with the list management team or its apparent new direction. I kept a low profile since then, but today am making it official that I no longer have a role as a list moderator, and as such any opinions I express in the future will be my own entirely. I can no longer advocate from within for VIPhone to become like it's MacVisionaries counterpart and join the mail archive site, but strongly agree with Esther that doing so would reduce redundant traffic and make the learning experience much easier for many who are new to the IOS platform. I can't say how many times I was able to avoid posting to the Macvisionaries list because my topic had been addressed previously. Again, I very much appreciated the opportunity to contribute to this community and everyone's advice and support as many of you really helped me to improve and made my job much easier. Best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Important mod note -- please read -- need everyone's help to combatting clutter.
Greetings all, For those of you on the VIPhone list, this will be an entry from the DORD (department of redundancy department). After having read two posts sent to this list earlier today which I will quote below, I decided that this list might also need a reminder. At this writing, 688 addresses are subscribed to the Macvisionaries list. I strive to avoid cluttering the list with mod notes, but considering our recent growth and over abundance of dubious content (see below) we've reached the point where I must again ask for everyone's help keeping the list traffic manageable. Please bare in mind that the number of subscribers and volume of posts are the primary reasons why this list can not function as a chat group. Simply put, if the clutter reaches a certain point, its reasonable to expect that many subscribers who are willing to help will conclude that the time commitment necessary to follow and contribute to the list is greater than what is possible in their lives. A formula that may illustrate the impact of a post is that if we except that it takes a screen reader user a minimum of five seconds to dispose of a message, even if its just to read the header and hit delete. Multiplying 688 subscribers times five seconds equals an absolute minimum of over 57 minutes of human life consumed by each and every post. We therefore ask that before posting, please take an introspective moment to consider whether your content warrants the time and attention of 974 (and counting) people. Another contributor to excessive list traffic occurs when members who are capable of conducting a modicum of research such as looking on the app store or entering a Google search instead opt to consume everyone's time by posting a question which could have easily been answered in a minute. To be sure we all come to the table with different knowledge and abilities, and I probably speak for the entire list in saying that I would have all the patients in the world with someone who does not yet understand the app store interface asking what an app does, but there is absolutely no excuse for someone who is clearly familiar with the app store app to dump a question on the list asking (for example) the price of an app. Having said that, when posting about an app please try and anticipate questions and include as much information as possible such as the app's description, price, URL, and regions where it's available if known. We are still working on putting formal guidelines together, but in the mean time, I expect newcomers will not initially realize the size of this list hence will believe that an intro post is appropriate. I ask, however that all replies to such posts take place off list unless of course others on the list might benefit from your content. E.G. a message such as hello Joe Blow, Welcome to the list. Lots of wonderful people hang out here. should be sent privately. Can you imagine how overwhelming it would become if all 688 of us post a welcome message like that in response to an introduction? An example of a welcome message that is totally appropriate for public consumption is something like: Hello Joe, when I began using my Mac I found it much easier to use the trackpad and keyboard commanders than remembering these five finger key commands .. Thanks for helping us keep this list directed and worth while for everyone. Below are a small sampling of two posts written today which would have been more aptly sent privately. My intent is not to pick on anyone, but rather to give examples of the kind of content that in the opinion of the list management team and presumably most subscribers does not warrant the time and attention of an extremely large audience. Best regards. Geoff On May 31, 2011, at 4:02 AM, Max wrote: Thank you very much for these tips Anne. I'll play around and see how it goes. On May 31, 2011, at 11:45 AM, joseph wrote: thanks for the info. i downloaded the app but haven't tried it yet. best -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VizWiz
Thanks Ed for bringing this to our attention. Is the app itself slow, or just the answers to your queries. The latter would be expected since it's bound to always involve human intervention (presumably from a volunteer staff). How long does it take on average to get an answer, or does that depend on the question? And the first person who posts: what does this do is getting banned smile. Well I'm half serious; I fully expect at least two posts from people who would rather take up everyone's time than spend a few seconds Googling or perusing the App store. For that reason it might be a good idea to anticipate this and include a description when referencing an app here. Okay, to practice what I preach, here goes: App: VizWiz Category: medical Seller: Jeffrey Bigham Price in US currency: free of charge URL: US app store is http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vizwiz/id439686043?mt=8 Description: VizWiz lets blind users recruit remote sighted workers to help them with visual problems in nearly real-time. Users take a picture with their phone, speak a question, and then receive multiple spoken answers. Best regards, Geoff On May 30, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello listers, just wanted to send a message to all, and say that VizWiz is now up in the US app store. I have played with it a little and my first impression is it is a neat app, but a little slow. Very and simple though, which is nice. ED -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes and cds
I suspect Denise was already aware of this prior to posting. The problem is that I have yet to determine how to play an album in it's intended order. This could really matter for instance in the case of a comedy that was broken into tracks. When listing album contents as you and Ricardo suggest, the tracks appear to be in alphebetical order, which may not actually reflect their placement smile. Best regards. Geoff On May 30, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: Hi, First command-b to show the column browser. Then view/column browser and choose albums. Now, in the playlist you can interact with the playlist browser and brows your tracks by album title. On May 30, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Denise Avant wrote: hello all, i recently ripped five complete cds with itunes. i see the individual songs in my music list. but how are they suppose to come out as albums which is what i wanted. i do not want to have to build a playlist for one of michael jackson's albums. thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: reading threads in mail
Hi Steph, Threads are in a tree view, hence the arrow keys expand them and then you can arrow down to specific messages and tab into the preview pane. Best regards, Geoff On May 26, 2011, at 7:40 AM, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: Hi all. I have just set up my gmail account with my imac. On the whole, I reY like it. However, I'd like to know how to read threads. The can get the threads reY easily, but when I try to tab to the message body, i find get mail instead. How do I read and reply to messages in a thread? Thanks. Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
Greetings, Sadly it seems that a reminder is in order that the number of subscribers and volume of list traffic is not conducive to off topic chat group messages. The discussion of recordings in computer readable format and/or distribution of media playable on the MacOS and IOS platforms are completely on topic and welcome, hence I am not requesting closure of the thread in its entirety. I do ask, however that as a group we please avoid ot chatty posts that add nothing substantive to the discussion of Apple products such as the following two examples. Of course this is applicable to all threads and not this one specifically. Also, a statement that you are aware that your post is inappropriate does not render it acceptable. On the contrary such disclaimers appear to be a declaration of a total lack of intent to work within the guidelines. Best regards, Geoff On May 17, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Isaac Obie wrote: Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren? grin Isaac - On May 17, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Oh I loved 8 track! and I still miss record scratching on my Technics. I best shut up, as I will have the MOD telling me off again :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VO friendly DTV boxes?
Greetings y'all, To quote Shameless, the subject says it all. I'm considering acquiring a tv receiver box. I got one several years ago before the US switch over to the digital frequencies, but the required companion software was marginally usable with JFW. I therefore thought it wouldn't hurt to ask if anyone is using a DTV box successfully with VO and if so could you share the model? TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Virtual viewer in Safari?
Greetings, When I read code examples from URL: http://www.switchonthecode.com/tutorials/an-absolute-beginners-guide-to-iphone-development via JFW and FireFox/MSIE, the lines appear correctly in Jaws's virtual viewer. When I navigate via Safari in OSX 10.6.7, however there is no easy way to copy/paste lines of code or even to easily discern where a line ends. I tried both DOM and group modes and the reader (command-shift-r), but have not yet discovered a way to read lines of code as they are written. When I use the trackpad, only the part of the line under my finger is read. My VO utility setting to announce all punctuation is apparently ignored because characters such as the equal sign are not verbalized as I move over them, but are visible to voiceOver when I use the move right command (right flick or vo-arrow). When I interact, only part of the line is displayed. I attempted to select all and copy to a file in the textEdit application, but the result was also unreadable. I feel as though I must be missing something because many here are using OSX exclusively to navigate the web, yet I repeatedly see examples such as the one illustrated above where tasks are difficult or impossible to perform in Safari which can be done easily in JFW. TIA for any/all suggestions other than my current solution of reading the page in JFW and manually copying lines into xCode. Best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Virtual viewer in Safari?
Hi Tony, Thanks for the note. Frankly it's hard to understand why so many former JFW users claim on this list that they never look back because web navigation (which is becoming increasingly ubiquitous in application dialogs) is totally substandard by any objective analysis. It was challenging, but possible to update my JawBone Jambox in MSIE. Don't even think about attempting this task in Safari. The tables on braille.wunderground.com are so much easier to navigate in Windows. Yes it's possible to ascertain information such as current conditions and records, but the process is far to time consuming. I always book flights on Southwest or peruse my supermarket's weekly adds in Windows for the same reason. Up till now I suspected I was missing something obvious because the only alternative possibility is that this list is completely populated with coo laid drinking cheer leaders who are totally out of touch with reality! I will compose a note to the accessibility team, but suspect web navigation might have been implemented much better had the former switchers afforded themselves a modicum of objectivity rather than focusing on the price of the screen reader (which in the case of web navigation is worth every penny we pay for it). Best regards. Geoff On May 13, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote: Hi Geoff. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but VO in Safari doesn't seem to support the functionality you're referring to. Vo doesn't navigate the document in the word-processor-like style you're used to in JFW. I'm a JFW user as well, and I lament this issue very much for the exact same reason you do, reading/copying code. I wrote to Apple about it and explained this style of web navigation and requested that they make it an option in VO in addition to the other methods already available. I sent the note 2 or 3 days ago, so we'll see what happens. I suggest you do the same. The address is accessibil...@apple.com Tony Hernandez http://dutyofman.net/ Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 12:17 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Virtual viewer in Safari? Greetings, When I read code examples from URL: http://www.switchonthecode.com/tutorials/an-absolute-beginners-guide-to-ipho ne-development via JFW and FireFox/MSIE, the lines appear correctly in Jaws's virtual viewer. When I navigate via Safari in OSX 10.6.7, however there is no easy way to copy/paste lines of code or even to easily discern where a line ends. I tried both DOM and group modes and the reader (command-shift-r), but have not yet discovered a way to read lines of code as they are written. When I use the trackpad, only the part of the line under my finger is read. My VO utility setting to announce all punctuation is apparently ignored because characters such as the equal sign are not verbalized as I move over them, but are visible to voiceOver when I use the move right command (right flick or vo-arrow). When I interact, only part of the line is displayed. I attempted to select all and copy to a file in the textEdit application, but the result was also unreadable. I feel as though I must be missing something because many here are using OSX exclusively to navigate the web, yet I repeatedly see examples such as the one illustrated above where tasks are difficult or impossible to perform in Safari which can be done easily in JFW. TIA for any/all suggestions other than my current solution of reading the page in JFW and manually copying lines into xCode. Best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit
Re: Virtual viewer in Safari
Hi Zack, Thanks for your post. It's reassuring that you use the braille.wunderground.com site daily, but here again perhaps it depends on what you want to read there. How, for example can you quickly ascertain the normal and record temperatures In the JFW virtual viewer I can read the entire forecast followed by these details. In Safari I must read one field at a time, or perhaps get to what I want more quickly via the item chooser. Group mode does not appear to buy me anything there, and the reader is unavailable. I really hope there is a method I'm missing here, but to me sites such as this one are much faster to navigate in Windows. Best regards. Geoff On May 13, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Tony, I do agree, and see the potential usefulness of this sort of knowledge on occasions, such as the one JEff mentions. However, I must disagree with the overall impression that browsing with Safari is less productive than with JFW. It does take some getting used to, but in particular I consider group mode one of the best things that ever happened to accessible web browsing. I check the weather underground site mentioned every day, and find it no less useful with VO than under Jaws. Maybe it's all a matter of what you use the web for, I don't know, or a case of bad page design on some sites. Best, Zack. On May 13, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote: Selection problems like this are part of Geoff's difficulty, as well as mine. Also, while I don't mind using the VO DOM method of navigating, I sometimes do want to have a sense of where one line ends and the next begins for practical reasons. I think it would be quite an improvement if Apple were to add this ability to VO on the web. Tony Hernandez http://dutyofman.net/ Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14) -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 4:59 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Virtual viewer in Safari Hey. I don't experience any problems here with Safari although sometimes it doesn't let me select a word I can't spell or a website within another website that I can't spell and copy it. And sure, I got kinda confused the first time I used Safari with VO. I was used to navigating up and down through a page as opposed to left or right, but now I'm used to it. It just takes a little time I guess. Also about the Auto Forms Mode in JAWS and how VO handles forms, there's another screen reader for Windows called System Access and it lets you type in forms without extra keys as well. I highly doubt that Window-Eyes will develop something like this, as Freedom Science Fiction is famous for suing people for stealing their ideas. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: prismo on the IPhone
To clarify, Sandy posted to the viphone list. I haven't verified, but don't believe she's subscribed to Macvisionaries. I will copy one of her posts below which should help any interested party to get started. Supplemental to Ann's comments, I have no light perception and can report getting some results using Prismo on my 3GS. I'd never depend on it to read a bill or contract, but can often get the gist of a page. Considering the much lower resolution of the 3GS camera, this is very impressive and infinitely better than my results with the SayText, SmartScan or DocScanner apps. Best regards, Geoff Begin forwarded message: From: Sandy Tomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com Date: 13 March 2011 14:04:52 GMT+00:00 To: viph...@googlegroups.com viph...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: An example of Prizmo. Hi Tim, Before I begin, I must apologise for, what I imagine will be, a lengthy reply. First of all, so as to clear the decks, I should say that although I do have a modicum of sight, it only gets in the way when using these scanning apps, so I am working entirely without looking, so, working on that basis, I will tell you what I have done re settings and then describe the method I employ to make a scan. In the settings section of Prizmo, I disable the grid guide. From the home screen of Prizmo I select Text which opens another page, now, on this new page there is a camera option which I choose. I can't quite remember if I did this before entering the camera option or if I did it from the page before, but one of the options on one of the pages is tool bar, double tap that and along the bottom of the page you should find some toggle buttons like flash etc, there is just one button which is not labelled and that is the one you need to double tap to turn on speech command. This will allow you to tell the camera to shoot, you say Take picture! This is important as it means you don't have to tap the screen thereby wobbling the phone. However, if you use this mode, you really need to use the earphone/mic because the speaker seems to default to small speaker and you can't hear what you are doing otherwise. OK, Choose your book. Can I suggest that you practise with something that is easy to scan. So, something with reasonable print if you can ascertain that, something with reasonable paper quality, and something that will sit nice and flat. My thinking is this, too often we start off with scraps of paper or foolscap printed letters etc, in either case, we are demanding too much before we are ready. If you use a normal sized paperback, for example, you won't need to take the phone so far away from your target image because of the larger size. Does that make sense? I have found it much better to get some successes under my belt before pushing things to their limit. I find that if you get a bit of confidence it makes you more likely to succeed with the tougher stuff. Right! Now there is the question of light levels. There are various options with Prizmo re using the flash, the scan I got from my herb book was taken without the flash, but the light level here in my kitchen on this fairly bright Sunday morning is quite good and I reckon this is a whole area for discussion, I.E. how best to proceed assuming a person has no light perception and wants good results. Whether one should use the flash by default or not etc. There are times when the flash could work against you if the surface you are scanning is shiny, for example. With the book open and the page I had chosen to shoot was sitting nice and flat, I double tapped that Camera button, then I hear auto focusing I already have the phone, face down, obviously, in the centre of the page, actually, I tend to try to have the top right of the phone in the centre as that is where the camera is and then, using both hands to hold the phone, I lift it about six inches above the page and say Take picture! If possible I like to hear auto focused just before I give the command, but not actually sure it makes any difference. You will hear the picture taken and you can move. I do find that I get better results if I use both hands to hold the sides of the phone because I have aterrible sense of the flat and I seem to do better with both hands to keep it perfectly horizontal, don't know if I am wxplaining this well, but I do have a firmer hold and keep it more still this way. Pretty much imediately, I touch the bottom right of the screen and double tap the use button. A new page will open, I flick twice to the right to hear next and double tap that. Now I hear Processing, it generally takes about ten seconds, and, if you have been at all successful, you will hear a trill as your scannedpage opens. Sometimes, I do get a notification telling me that no text was extracted, but assuming that doesn't happen, I
AppleMail and vo - was the installation, and uninstallation of applications to the Mac
Hi Kawal and others, The following old post may offer a modicum of clarification. The short answer to your question is that message text is automatically read for me regardless whether the focused mailBox is in threaded view either when I press enter or tab into the preview pane. I believe that using the arrow keys to expand threads is much cleaner than pressing enter and opening windows for all the children, but that's a matter of preference. On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:13 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Annie, My suggestion varies greatly from the advice you've been given so far, but IMHO is much more deficient; Here in the US in the 1960s there was an expression: different strokes for different folks, so I'll offer this for your consideration. First, In the VO utility go into the navigation tab and uncheck the box labeled: Automatically interact when using tab key. Now as you traverse messages you can press right arrow to expand threads. If like me you're tired of hearing the word thread you can alter the verbosity setting for disclosure triangles such that the name is not announced. That way you'll know its a thread when VO identifies it as a triangle -- no need to hear the superfluous word thread every time. As you arrow up and down, VO usually announces the author, subject, etc. If it does not the move right/left commands (vo-arrow keys) reads the fields individually, and you can quickly peruse one specific field such as the sender via vo-up/down arrow commands. To read a message press tab . Since you are no longer automatically interacting with the table of messages or preview pane the tab moves focus to the preview pane and voiceOver usually automatically announces the contents there of regardless whether headings are enabled in mail preferences. If you want to skim read the text or click on any links you may need to interact with the preview pane, but for most things I read and press backspace to delete. Pressing either backspace or shift-tab returns focus to the message list. BTW when a thread is not expanded, backspace will kill it off. You may want to bare in mind, however that many who are uninformed as I was recently will press reply and delete the subject and text with the intent of starting a totally different conversation. What threads messages together though is actually not the subject, but instead is determined by a line that is inserted into message headers. I plan to post a completely unrelated question to the list shortly regarding spell checking. If I did this by using command-r and deleting all the subject and text rather than pressing command-n, my question would have been appended to this thread, so that is the danger when you assume a thread is inapplicable. A recent example is Neil Barnfather's thread regarding keyboard navigation. This generated several other topics such as documentation and Apple in store training, but if I only saw a thread with three hundred or so messages about keyboard navigation and didn't believe the topic was of interest I would have missed several buried threads that were not related because someone apparently attempted to launch a new thread by using either control+r in Outlook or command-r in AppleMail. HTH. Geoff On May 6, 2011, at 2:51 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi Geoff. In your message you say that you've unchecked a box in the Voice Over Utilities category, so wish to know (as I read my messages in threaded view which are displayed as separate windows), if I were to uncheck the box and pressed enter on any message, would the Voice Over read my messages automatically as that doesn't work if my mail is not in threaded view. Kawal. , -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: the installation, and uninstallation of applications to the Mac
Hi Shameless, Can't improve on Jes's excellent description of app installation, but in terms of pulling an email address from a header, there are other ways to skin the cat. In fact I seldom interact with anything in e-mail. Instead, I went into vo utility (VO-f8) - navigation and unchecked the box labeled: Automatically interact when using tab key. This way I can arrow through folders and messages, and when I am in a message header and press tab vo will usually automatically read the preview pane text when it comes into focus. In order to skim a message with the track pad and/or open links by performing the default action (vo-spaceBar or double tap the trackpad) one does need to interact. When I want to pull an email address I press enter from the either the preview pane or message list, back tab to the header and then hit option-right arrow once or twice. When voiceOver reads the email address I press vo-shift-c to copy the last spoken text to the clipboard. You can then use command-v to paste it into your outgoing message. Personally I don't value podcasts very much. the conventional wisdom though is that everyone will tell you to listen to all the ones that Mike A put out on blindCoolTech. I would take any podcast with a grain of salt though because there are often so many ways to skin the cat. For example I recall one podcast suggesting that voiceOver users need to use a setting in appleMail such that all messages in a thread open in separate windows. That approach may work for some voiceOver users, but for me it's much easier to disable the interact on tab key option referenced above and explore threads in a conventional tree view. By all means install growl as it will make life with apps such as Skype and Adium (the Mac client for MSNMessenger, AIM, YahooMessenger etc) easier. Bare in mind that this list is archived. For example, if you wanted a comprehensive list , of MacOS keyboard commands, you can visit the list archive press option-shift-tab to move to the first text box and enter the string from:Esther Snow Leopard shortcut keys. the first result is an item that Esther wrote about 15 months ago. As the above example illustrates, the archive supports searching from a specific sender. There are many other search options available such as wild cards, Boolean expressions or date ranges. While getting started, I had trouble dealing with the vo keyboard commands (especially since many are redundant to keyboard shortcuts requiring fewer keys which are built into SnowLeopard. For me, when I congot into the trackpad commander and configured a more logical layout, things began to take off. Good luck getting started, and congrads on your new toy!! Best regards. Geoff On May 5, 2011, at 12:02 AM, ShamelessFanGirl wrote: Hi all, Subject covers it really. I think I've got this process down, but want confirmation before attempting. How is this done precisely? And on that subject, what do y'all recommend for VO accessibility? Journaling/blogging apps, news aggregators, and/or whatever starter tools you might find useful/interesting. Also, to install Growl or no? And, I know it's been beaten to death, but should I do Skype, or pass? Also, how would one go about selecting an email address from a mail header? Thanks in advance all, and I'm lovingthis thing so far. The switch has been seamless, and iTunes/iPhone management here is a joy. I didn't hate it under Windows, but at least on my Mac, VO is simply more responsive. The system goes from shutdown to ready in no less than fifteen seconds. Haven't timed this yet, but it's definitely no longer than that. Yeah, am in love. :) Twitter: @IndigoCellist Skype: shameless_FanGirl Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My review of Imap Weather Radio
Greetings y'all, I was going to write Sarai off list to express appreciation for her excellent review and thanksgiving that she got through the recent turbulence that recently reigned supreme here in the SouthEastern United States. I started asking so many follow-up questions, however that I changed my mind and decided that others might be able to contribute to and benefit from the discussion, so here goes. If IMAP WeatherRadio indeed gives a loud and timely warning I believe it's worth the cost. So far either the conditions in my area lacked sufficient importance to trigger a major alarm, or the sound emitted would never awaken me from a deep sleep. Yesterday our region got several tornado watches which were extended several times. I saw an alert from ImapWeatherRadio, but if there was any sound at all it was the two tone beep that accompanies a push notification, tipicle of what my phone emits when the FoxNews app sends a breaking news alert, or when AtBat11 informs me that the Cubs lost again. I usually sleep right through those! I went into settings - Notifications and confirmed that both sounds and alerts are enabled for WeatherRadio. Perhaps there needs to be an actual warning in order to receive a loud alert? I also observed that this app inserts an entry into settings, which is now empty, so perhaps they intend add the option of configuring different sounds in a future update. When this app was first discussed, it was stated that one could read text of the conditions and forecast without having to activate ImapWeatherRadio's audio. So far I have not determined how to accomplish this. The IMap dialog seemed to be the most applicable place to look, but none of the visible buttons (play, refreshmap, unlabeled, or Map's time stamp)) appear to cause the app to convey the text portion in a vo accessible manner. I also tried double tapping an area on the screen where I presume the map is displayed, but that only presented the Map settings dialog. This is hardly a deal breaker for me, but the earlier discussion has me thinking I must be missing something obvious. TIA and best regards. Geoff On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi all: I've received questions about the above application, so thought I'd write a review of the application. Unfortunately, I had use of it yesterday. I'm running an iPhone 4, iOS 4.3. Imap Weather Radio is an accessible weather radio application, which can be configured to alert you to any weather event of your choosing. It wil use your GPS to send alerts where ever you are. You can also set the app to alert for 5 locations based on zip, city, state, airport code, etc. Unlike other radio apps which happen to have weather radio stations, Imap wakes up your iOS device, sounds an alarm, and will send audio, and text alerts. From experience, it works, and will send the alerts at the same time as a Midland NOA Weather Radio. Fortunately, there isn't a delay in notifications, wich was one of my concerns with push notification. It was comforting to have this application when I lost all power due to yesterday's storms. The app does activate location tracking, and surprisingly, it doesn't cause to much of a battery drain. Last night, I had Imap, as well as several other apps pushing data pretty hard to my phone. At 5 P.M, I unplugged the phone at 100% battery power. Around 10 P.M. I was down to 49%; that was with a constant stream of data being pushed. Today, I started at 82% at 8 A.M. and I was at 70 % at 6 P.M. This was on a calm day with normal phone use. Not bad, IMO. The app is definitely worth the $9.95. I hope this review helps. Sarai Bucciarelli Personal to win Amazon and other free gift cards, Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible Weather Radio App for iOS devices
Hi Sarai and others, Thanks so much for bringing this app to our attention. One last follow-up question if I may. On the other list I mentioned the WeatherAlert app which will wake you up. That's a good thing, but then it repeats identical warnings such as a thunderstorm or tornado watch every hour day or night unless you disable such alerts completely. Is imapWeather Radio able to filter duplicate alerts? If so, that would place it ahead of MyCast which is asking ten dollars annually for this service and from what I've seen doesn't even offer an accessible way to complete the in-app purchase. Best regards. Geoff On Apr 27, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote: doesn't the weather ap on the iphone work just fine? and you can listen to your local weather radio with tune in radio, which is free. On 2011-04-26, at 11:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Is this the 10 dollar app I just saw in the app store? 10 bucks is a whole lot to pay for just a weather app. Is there a different one I'm not seeing? Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Hotspots
Simon, I'm not clear on how your post varies from what Colin already said? If you are attempting to add new information, you may want to rephrase it. If your intent was to rehashColin's answer, I would suggest that you consider responding privately so as to help minimize the time required for the 658 people subscribed to this list to follow it. I was about to answer Courtney's query, but noticed Colin beat me to the punch with a reply that seemed completely responsive, hence I decided not to waste everyone's time. Best regards. Geoff On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:32 AM, Simon Cavendish wrote: Yes, vo+shift+number of the hot spot, and vo+number to go to the hotspot you have already set. On 31 Mar 2011, at 04:02, Colin M wrote: Hi Courtney! I think you have to add shift to your key stroke! vo+shift+the number and you should be good to go! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 31 Mar 2011, at 03:41, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set hot spots in voiceover with vo plus the number that I want, but it's not saying hot spot saved. Is there a way to enable hot spots in vo, it doesn't seem to be working here? Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Are two drives alike?
Greetings all, Recently a friend found a 500 GB Passport at the Apple store for twice what I paid for my 1TB drive last year. It said that it was for MacOS, but since my MBP has no trouble finding or reading my drive, I didn't see this deal as a bargin exactly. This afternoon I searched the US Amazon site for the string: passport tb and noticed that the prices for the mac drives are consistently higher than their windows counterparts. Two examples follow: Western Digital My Passport SE for Mac 1 TB USB 2.0 Portable External Hard Drive (Silver) $117.27 vs: Western Digital My Passport Essential SE 1 TB USB 3.0/2.0 Ultra Portable External Hard Drive (Black) (Windows) $89.99 I'm not certain whether these products are identical. The color varies, as does the fact that the more expensive drive's description emits the word essential, and does not support USB 3.0 (which may not be applicable for MACOS yet anyway). My older drive came with software that I never use -- is this the only difference between the two drive models? If so, would I care about the software in the MacOS platform? I assume I could se either drive with timeMachine and to store files? TIA for any input and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Extremely Frustrated trying to copy and paste . . .
Hi Mike, I believe a more objective user might put it differently. The sentence I have in mind is that the JFW virtual viewer handles this infinitely better than VO/Safari. I fear that the all too ubiquitous Pollyannaish attitude often seen on this list that voiceOver can do no wrong will result in VI users having inferior functionality in this and other browsing tasks on the MacOS platform for decades to come. Frankly, when I need to copy a large section of text from a web page (E.G. sharing the latest Ann Coulter column I boot up my XP machine!! I suspect Christine was already aware of all suggestions offered in this thread so far prior to authoring her post. the problem is that IMHO the solutions offered are not viable because in many instances such as the one sighted above, there can be hundreds of chunks of text which all need to be copied one at a time, MHO rendering the task impossible. Since there is no feedback given as you use the shift arrow keys, there is no way to limit the selection, hence it's almost easier to select all and cut it down. Much faster to boot up my XP machine and selectively copy what I want n one step. If I'm missing something I'd love to be shown the error of my ways, but Christine has documented what I believe to be a major VO deficiency. Best regards. Geoff On Mar 22, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: This can be a bit tricky, admitedly, the windows screen readers probably handle this a bit better. Interact with the text you want to select, then press control option enter to start selecting. Now move the voiceover cursor to the end of the text you want to select, then press control option enter again. You can press control option F6 to read the text you have selected. At this point, command c will copy the selected text. On Mar 22, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: Hello, everyone. Here I am again, one of the poor souls drifting with shame from the world of Windows into the enlightened precincts of Macdom. It continues to be a rather bumpy newbie ride. Although I have not had any difficulty selecting, copying, and pasting from e-mails and text files, I cannot seem to be able to do it successfully on Web pages. Today, for example, I attempted to copy some text about the pros and cons of nuclear power from a Web site. When I selected, there was no feedback, so I had to estimate. Then, when I pasted the material into first an e-mail, then a text edit file, all I got was imbedded png file and imbedded gif file. I tried searching for the text, but to no avail. I was interacting with the text when I attempted this. I have previously given up when attempting to copy from sites which I had no trouble copying from with my PC. Can anyone explain this new hurdle, and suggest what I must do to leap over it? Thank you. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: hot spot expiry?
Hi Yuma, Perhaps you can clarify your requirement? The way I've used hotspots, closing the associated app renders them inapplicable. When I reopen the app my hotspot again becomes active. Only way I know to save them is via the export preferences menu item in the voiceOver utility. Perhaps you could get beyond the limit of ten by saving several hotspot files and automating which file becomes loaded via scripting? Perhaps others will chime in with a better idea. Best regards. Geoff On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi list, This might be something that's already been answered, but here it goes: Can the hotspots continue to be active when a program closes, and is there a way to save them somewhere? Maybe using keyboard maestro or quickeyes? There are a bunch of hotspots i'd need to have beyond the available digits on the keyboard, and i'd like to save them for later use instead of resetting them at each session. Any help greatly appreciated Yuma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
CopypastePro.
Greetings y'all, I've not been able to get off square one with CopyPaste Pro. VO repeatedly says: system dialog. Interact and no keys have any discernible affect. I turned off all voiceOver verbosity, automatic interaction and cursor/mouse linkage features that I could find, to no avail. It may turn out that this app will be usable once I get past the intro/license key entry dialogs, but without assistance I've not yet ascertained how to accomplish this. I'm open to suggestions if anyone has ideas. Best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Reproducible hang reading a web page.
Greetings, I have the latest Safari update installed on my MBP running 10.6.6. When attempting to read this column via a two finger flick on the trackpad (VO-a on the keyboard), VoiceOver consistently hangs after reading the word: wrangler. I can reproduce this in either group or DOM mode, and clearing the cache didn't help. I have no trouble with this when using JFW12 and Acrobat. If others can verify my observation I will report it to Apple since its proven to be a predictable testcase (at least here). TIA for anyone willing to try this and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Reproducible hang reading a web page.
Hi Bryan and Esther, Thanks for testing at your end. Very strange -- both installation of the click-to-flash plug-in and Safari reader had no impact. Maybe time for another partition whipe? Sounds like its unique to me though. Best regards. Geoff On Mar 15, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hi Geoff, It didn't hang for me when reaching the gnarled ol' wrangler reference. Perhaps VO on your Macbook is offended by the term? grin, Like Esther, I too have Click to Flash installed with the latest Safari and OS. HTH, Bryan On Mar 15, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: I have the latest Safari update installed on my MBP running 10.6.6. When attempting to read this column via a two finger flick on the trackpad (VO-a on the keyboard), VoiceOver consistently hangs after reading the word: wrangler. I can reproduce this in either group or DOM mode, and clearing the cache didn't help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is the disappearance of Voice Over a unique problem, or do others have it, too?
Like others I cannot reproduce the problem. Some times it happens every couple minutes, or I can go a day with only one or two occurrences. Since I recently reformatted my partition and reinstalled snowLeopard, I doubt that repairing permissions would have any affect. I don't recall this being an issue until installing 10.6.5,. For me the latest update made it much worse and rendered browsing in Safari virtually impossible in many instances. Best regards. Geoff On Mar 14, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: Mark and Ricardo, sometimes, I have to keep hitting the Command F5 combo for two or three minutes before VO kicks in. While I truly sympathize with everyone who regularly encounters this problem, I also take a little bit of comfort in the fact that (1) I'm not doing anything wrong and (2) misery keeps company. Mike On 14,Mar,2011, at 8:08 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Yup, Spot on Mark. I also encounter this when navigating quickly through files and folders in the finder. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Mar 14, 2011, at 2:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Mike. I encounter this same problem virtually every time I use Mail. In fact,, just now, while composing this reply to you, VoiceOver just stopped speaking and I had to issue Command+F5 several times to get it speaking again. VoiceOver also dies when entering information into Forms on the web. Most frustrating, to say the least. Mark On Mar 14, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hi everyone, I am using Snow Leopard V 10.6.6 on a Mac Book with 4 GB/RAM. For reasons I do not understand, I occasionally lose Voice Over, especially when I am using Mail. Though the problem is not limited to Mail, Voice Over just seems to unload itself, and the only thing I can do is repeatedly hit Command F5 until VO decides to make an appearance. Its disappearance is apparently random, i.e. I can't make it disappear at will. Has anyone else encountered this problem? If not, what might be causing it? Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. My best to all of you, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Is CopyPaste Pro 3.0 accessible?
The subject says it all. Macupdate has CopyPaste Pro 3.0 on sale. I used a Windows counterpart called Clipmate for years and found it indispensable. I'll probably try this app unless someone already has and advises that it doesn't play nice with voiceOver. Best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: XCode and registering as a developer
When I registered as a developer a couple months ago, I tried physically clicking the continue button, but that didn't help. The only way I found to move to the next screen was to disable VO and have someone select it for me. Hope they fix this eventually. Geoff On Mar 12, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: Hello Paul - I can't speak to the first questions, but with regard to your trouble registering as an Apple Developer I have a couple of thoughts. Can you be more specific about where on the form you are having trouble? I know it used to be difficult to register as a Developer because several of the buttons used to move to the next page in the process do not respond to the standard VO+Spacebar command. A number of folks on this list, myself included, have reported this to accessibil...@apple.com but it sounds like maybe it hasn't been fixed yet. If this is the problem you're having, you might want to try moving the mouse cursor to the VO cursor and clicking the mouse to activate the button. HTH, Bryan On Mar 12, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: I’m having problems registering as a developer. The form seems to require an extension but I don’t have one. Have any of you been able to register? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: radio warning, earthquake, more
And this is mac related because?!?! On Mar 11, 2011, at 2:56 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote: Cheree Heppe here: I was up late and happened to turn on the BBC . There was an 8.6 or 7 earthquake in the ocean and is causing flooding and damage to Japan. There is a tsunami headed toward the Philapines, Hawaii and Japan. Warning has been extended to Australia and South America. The emergency broadcast metwork came on warning that tsunami waves will reach the Oregon and Washington coast by 7:00 a.m. Regards, Cheree Heppe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Reading dictionaries for scriptable apps.
Greetings, I suspect I'll be embarrassed when I learn the solution but I've tried all manners of interacting and exploring for context menus and cannot find a way to quickly skip to a dictionary, or a specific command within. For example, while skype.sdef is open, I interact with the table and expand it to find a level 1 item named: send. Regardless which item in the table is selected, when I tab to and interact with the HTML item my focus is at the very top (Standard Suite). TIA for any/all suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mod note Re: housekeping: set-up for replying to list
Greetings y'all, Not to worry Donna -- I believe this subject came up earlier and long before I began assisting Cara as a mod it was decided for many reasons sited earlier in this thread that the list would function as it presently does. Please take up any/all concerns on individual vs list reply with the moderator team which now consists of Cara, Carolyn and myself as the active and visible members. Geoff On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Personally I like the way the list is set up now. The vast majority of replies that one sends should be going to the list. It's easier to change on those occasions where you want to send something specifically to the sender, since there are fewer of those situations. Best, Donna On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:09 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Alex: I think that would be a great solution. Let me look into it. Thanks very much for your understanding and your great suggestion.. Carolyn H :) On Mar 1, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Alex Hall wrote: Hello, In response to a recent thread about keeping one-line thank-yous and similar content off the list, I would like to make a suggestion. Currently, replying to the sender or replying to all will send a copy of the message to the list. However, some lists I am on are set up so that replying to the sender will do just that, reply only to the sender of the message. To send a message to the list, one must reply to all. This is a great setup as it allows posters to very easily take a conversation off the list and keep it going privately; to do so, one party needs only to reply to sender, instead of reply to all, and the rest of the list will not see the subsequent messages (unless someone copies the list address on a message for some reason). What do people think of setting up this list that way, if possible? -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Registering as an Apple Developer...
Hi David, When I did this recently, I filled out the form correctly, but it didn't accept the fields until I disabled VO. I reported this but presumibly they've not addressed it yet. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 28, 2011, at 1:11 PM, David Hole wrote: Hi. I try to register as an Apple Developer here: http://developer.apple.com/programs/start/register/create.php When I try to type in my phone number, the form won't accept it... It says I need Country Code, Area/City Code, Number, Extension There are different fields for every one of this. How should I type them to get it work? I know only my country-code wich is +47 for Norway... :( Med vennlig hilsen David Hole ! Veni, Vidi, Vici -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Fission selection and play head movement?
Thanks to an answer from Rogue Amoeba, I can respond to my own post. Any attempt on the part of a voiceOver user to explore or interact with the set play head and time selection dialogs causes focus to move out of the input fields, rendering it impossible to enter anything. Every time field consists of four sections: hours, minutes, seconds and hundreds of a second. They are auto set to begin at the hour marker. The tab key moves between sections, and the return key confirms the selection. If the play head value entered exceeds the run time, the play head is placed at the end. I'm not sure what happens in the case of a bad selection. They promised to work on these dialogs, but as long as I enter four fields for the play head, or eight fields in the selection dialog I have no trouble whatsoever, and can verify that I entered my desired values correctly at the selection window. Hope this helps someone. Geoff On Feb 20, 2011, at 12:22 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings y'all, I understand how to move the play head in small increments with the arrow keys and select via i and o, but thought I'd ask whether the faster head movement/selection techniques are accessible in a manner that I missed. When I select tools - select play head I can not locate an edit field or slider control. Ditto for tools - set selection (command-l). The documentation indicates that one can combine the arrow keys with command, control and option for larger increments, however they only seem to duplicate the function of home and end (i.e move to the beginning or end). Is there something I'm missing or is that as good as it gets for this app? TIA for any suggestions and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: system dialog
I too can confirm this. More over, voiceOver is hanging up several times a day and I need to press command-f5 four times to recover. Lastly the Safari busy problem abounds. So, IMHO 10.6.6 is the least stable in my short time running MacOS. Geoff On Feb 21, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Have had this problem a few times. Also Voice over would not speak. So my option was to force shut down the system and reboot. Kawal. On 21 Feb 2011, at 21:09, louie wrote: Hi all, Some times when I go to running applications VO + F1 then VO f1 again I find a system dialog. If I select the system dialog I can't get rid of it. The only way to get rid of it is reboot. Any one having this trouble? If so how did you get rid of the system dialog? louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Fission selection and play head movement?
Greetings y'all, I understand how to move the play head in small increments with the arrow keys and select via i and o, but thought I'd ask whether the faster head movement/selection techniques are accessible in a manner that I missed. When I select tools - select play head I can not locate an edit field or slider control. Ditto for tools - set selection (command-l). The documentation indicates that one can combine the arrow keys with command, control and option for larger increments, however they only seem to duplicate the function of home and end (i.e move to the beginning or end). Is there something I'm missing or is that as good as it gets for this app? TIA for any suggestions and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: creating a root in Navigon - was GPS Apps
Hi Kawal, Thanks -- I've always calculated roots from my current location, but your post provided an excuse to play with the rooting feature. I was unable to reproduce your problem, but perhaps we are taking different steps, or there's a discrepancy between the North America and UK maps. From the initial screen I selected more - route - new route. I then selected add route point and entered an item from my recents list. I did this a second time and now have a route. As is true when I'm navigating from my current GPS position I can see a turn by turn list when my speed profile is set to car or pedestrian with voice announcements. I have not yet determined how to view the entire turn by turn list for saved routes, however because I need to go into simulation, and the completed maneuvers do not appear. If you're creating your route a different way, perhaps you can advise and I can attempt to reproduce it here. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 14, 2011, at 4:17 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Dear Geoff, I in the past have tried to make a pedestrian route to the railway station and although I have put my home address in the App already, when it asks where you want to start from, Let's say my house and I select the railway station, I can't seem to get to the next button and it keeps saying that I have to select where I'd like to go from even though my house adress is in there. Kawal. Sent From My I Phone On 14 Feb 2011, at 12:29 AM, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, Perhaps those who believe Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off people who might otherwise find this app very useful. Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take a technical wizard to ascertain, for example that from the main screen one can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search for a POI to start a business search. VO identifies both of these as buttons. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries
Pulsar updated.
Greetings y'all, RogueAmoeba recently updated AudioHijack and Pulsar. During my preliminary testing it would appear that they did a great job. I can now stream from my XM account once again and the accessibility is great. Sadly with the flash it's probably the only game in town since the Windows counterpart (XAMP Studio) (which was marginally accessible to begin with) hasn't been updated in years. I can't speak for Sirius streaming accounts but would assume that was also addressed. Then again, you know what they say about those who assume? Best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: GPS Apps
Greetings, Perhaps those who believe Navigon's interface to be overly abstruse might consider posting which tasks they would like to perform and what steps they tried rather than a general statement lacking specifics that might scare off people who might otherwise find this app very useful. Many of us who have Navigon are scratching our heads since it does not take a technical wizard to ascertain, for example that from the main screen one can locate an address by selecting enter an address, or select: search for a POI to start a business search. VO identifies both of these as buttons. Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:12 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Kawal: Call me dense. But, I still think there's too much rocket science involved in making Navigon work. I've gotten discouraged with the number of hoops to jump through, just to get directions somewhere. Or, perhaps I'm just too much of a homebody to make it worth my while to work with. I have a secret notion that only wizards and geniuses can really get anywhere using it.:) Carolyn H http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: GPS Apps
Hi Ricardo and Eric, For what it does (and the price) around me is excellent!! The main difference between aroundMe and WhereTo is the number of categories. AroundMe has a total of 18 with a few redundancies such as bars and pubs. If I select the food and drink category in whereTo? here is the list of subcategories under the letter a: Afgan African all you can eat American Argentinean Armenian Asian Australian and Austrian I'll spare the reader (and my fingers) a trip through the rest of the alphabet or rundown of other business categories, but I can't think of one that isn't covered. As I understand it, the initial release of lookAround listed the five nearest points of interest without regard to user category preference, but perhaps a subsequent release rendered their business search feature more useful? Best regards. Geoff On Feb 12, 2011, at 6:58 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Or by contrast compared to the 5 dollar lookaround app by sendero? Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-02-12, at 2:28 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Geoff, I've never used where to. I use around me for my POI needs. I was wondering if you've used around me, and if so, could you compare and contrast the two apps a bit? Around me is free and I find it to be pretty good. I was wondering what one would get for their $3 for where to. Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 12, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I
Re: GPS Apps
Greetings Scott G, Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app named WhereTo? by future tap. It has a list of categories and results which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in maps app where it launches the preferred helper app and sets the desired POI as the destination I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app. The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8 Best regards. Geoff On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in walking mode. My conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a simulation mode might be the problem in that case. Sorry I can't provide more info. Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as they relate to a blind user? How is it for walking routes? What sort of features are available. I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc? How about the walking maps? Do they tend to put you in the middle of parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the sidewalk in front of the building? In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver? I hear it's not that great from a sited engineer friend of mine. He designs GPS receivers though so he might be picky. How well do you find it works? Thanks Scott On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Robert, Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit longer on the iOS platform. hth, Scott On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote: Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one of the apps to be a GPS package. At this point, I have arrived at three possible conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely like Garmin? Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most impressive, yet it is only ever Tomtom and Navigon about which I hear—so is there some drawback to Garmin which prevents it from competing on the same level? I read on the Applevis web site that Garmin is very accessible, as well as Navigon. Any information is welcome—if I have to have multiple solutions, I guess I could do that, but it would be much easier just to depend on one. Finally, does it really matter that much which app I decide to use? Is one essentially as good as the other? Any input would be appreciated—no matter how lengthy (I would even prefer lengthy smile). Thanks, Robert Hooper hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu The Ohio State University 553 Morrill Tower 1900 Cannon Drive Columbus, Ohio 43210 (740) 856-9435 --
Re: Mod note, off topic posts.
Hello Michael, If you or anyone have concerns over the wording or content of mod notes, please direct them to Cara and/or me privately. We value feedback and all opinions, however the list is not the place for discussion of management policy. Your point that the last message was steered on topic is well taken, and perhaps I could have used better examples, however this does not alter our guidelines in terms of off topic postings. If a person knows an item to be off topic, it does not belong here not withstanding an OT warning in the subject. The fact that many here are familiar with other blindness topics in general is irrelevant because the number of subscribers sadly precludes such flexibility. To reiterate, if you or anyone else have concerns, comments, or suggestions please don't hesitate to direct them to the mod team privately. Thanks and best regards. Geoff On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: the last ot post turned into someone giving advice to get an ON topic item rather than a note taker, so i think it was worthwile, not to mention the fact that thi slist is full of people likely to be able to help. The blind guide dog and marriage counseling discussion board is likel to be so full of drama that a meaning ful rsonse could be impossible to find On Feb 9, 2011, at 4:14 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: Greetings y'all, This seems like an apt moment to request everyone's help to please keep posts on topic. Sadly, this list has reached the level of subscriber ship (639 at this writing) where we don't have the flexibility to welcome off topic messages. Marking a post as OT does not render it topical. To illustrate via analogy, if I entered a store waring a sign reading: shop lifter present, I suspect the store owner would still prefer charges if I was caught attempting to plunder the place. The reader may be saying: but I only posted one ot item. I would suggest that if everyone did this even just once a year, we'd find ourselves continuously discussing unrelated topics such as guide dogs or relationships with sighted members of the opposite sex. Between Yahoo and Google groups there are hundreds of lists which are open to more general topics related to blindness. Thanks for your help in keeping this list a great technical resource, and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mod note, off topic posts.
Greetings y'all, This seems like an apt moment to request everyone's help to please keep posts on topic. Sadly, this list has reached the level of subscriber ship (639 at this writing) where we don't have the flexibility to welcome off topic messages. Marking a post as OT does not render it topical. To illustrate via analogy, if I entered a store waring a sign reading: shop lifter present, I suspect the store owner would still prefer charges if I was caught attempting to plunder the place. The reader may be saying: but I only posted one ot item. I would suggest that if everyone did this even just once a year, we'd find ourselves continuously discussing unrelated topics such as guide dogs or relationships with sighted members of the opposite sex. Between Yahoo and Google groups there are hundreds of lists which are open to more general topics related to blindness. Thanks for your help in keeping this list a great technical resource, and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Screwy VMWare key mapping
Hi Lindsay, Not sure if this would also be applicable for VMWare fusion, but if you've not already done so, you might want to go into system preferences - keyboard and check the box labeled: Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function keys. HTH. Geoff On Feb 7, 2011, at 4:50 AM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote: Hello, I'm sorry if this question has been asked time and time again on this list, but I'm trying to figure out the best way to map certain Windows keys on my Macbook using VMWare Fusion with SharpKeys. In particular, what mappings have people figured out for some of the higher F-keys, which appear to be overridden by the volume/mute commands for OSX? Also, is it necessary to hold down the function key whenever one needs to activate the F-keys, or has anyone here found solutions? Thanks in advance! Lindsay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: trouble with xmradio site
Hi Karen, The merger is not Germane to the topic being discussed in this thread. Sarah, thanks for your avocation efforts -- if you know of a contact person pperhaps you can share that here if it would help illustrate to management how Sirius's change to a flashed based page renders it impossible for many customers to use the streaming service they're paying for? Best regards. Geoff On Feb 7, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Granted, I came in on the middle of this thread. I did read the posts here though. No actual link was shared, so I guessed given he subject that you were doing this? www.xmradio.com You likely know that the services have merged. When I tried this using lynx the cat, not the chain or e-links, the page redirected to the Sirius xm page. I got lots of links, including a log in one program highlights, a my account page etc. However many of the links are script buttons. There is html there...sort of, but I am sure if one is using one of the other browsers the page is styled, as in perhaps they are using cascading style sheets, to look rather a mess. Just my take, and if you are going elsewhere let me know. Kare On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Sarah Alawami wrote: I contacted the media relations department regarding this. We'll see what happens. I might blog about this once a decission has been reatched. S On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I tried loading the site in my windows virtual machine. The entire page is flash now, even the log in form is flash instead of html, why someone would create a page like that I have no idea, practicly speaking, it makes no sense whatsoever. Html works fine, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. So, looks like this will not be useable at this point on the mac. On Feb 5, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Brent Harding wrote: Yes, but I use Sirius. I tried Replay AV in Windows, said it couldn't parce the login page. I got a blank page with IE, and flash movie, flash movie end with Firefox on Windows, so that's probably why Safari went blank. I hadn't tried firing up Pulsar yet, but I suspect they switched things up again. - Original Message - From: chad To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 12:17 AM Subject: trouble with xmradio site hi has anyone had trouble with the xmradio site i tried to listen online and got a blank page i sent them a e mail i think there doing maintance also tried it with pulsar and got an error saying could not find the loggin page -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MoveAddict still vaporware.
Hi Rose, The file you should have downloaded is named moveAddict.dmg. It contains an accessibility folder as Esther described earlier. I got it from URL: http://kapeli.com/moveaddict , but if you continue to get a corrupted download from there I would be happy to upload it to sendSpace? Take care. Geoff On Jan 29, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Rose Morales wrote: I didn't get a dmg when I installed MoveAddict. I just got one .app file in my Applications folder. When I run it, MoveAddict crashes. Any suggestions? On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Randy Stegall wrote: Glad you have it working! Randy Stegall kc4...@aol.com Sent from my Mac Mini. On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:09 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Thanks Randy, Esther, and Chuck, I now have it working, though after what amounted to three installs I could have sure done a lot of copying and deleting and saved the five bucks :) I initially attempted to follow Esther's instructions, but cut had no affect. I then hid MoveAddict from both the doc and status menu. This apparently caused a warning to display which precluded going into the dialog. I tried rebooting, to no avail. I then tried the suggestion I received from the support group, which was to launch the terminal app and enter: defaults delete com.kapeli.moveaddict. This time it appeared to be successful (without any additional parms) since it was necessary to reenter my registration. I then took the following steps over both unknown fields: 1. Interact: 2. Even though Mouse is configured to follow VO I pressed vo-command-f5 for good measure. 3. Confirmed that the mouse was in the field (vo-f5). 4. Press the desired shortcut key (i.g. command-x for cut). 5. Stop interacting. As Chuck observed, the fields still show unknown, but I am now able to cut/paste. Best regards. Geoff On Jan 27, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Geoff, What moveAddict tech support told me is that the standard mac key commands for cut and paste are actually in the invisible part of the preferences. Keyboard shortcuts window; Cut keyboard shortcut unknown paste keyboard shortcut unknown when I asked how I enter a key command for cut and paste they said that the default is the standard mac commands! They could at least make these visible using VoiceOver! Talk soon On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, Since the moveAddict support group is apparently ignoring my notes, I decided after reading Esther's post to reinstall moveAddict version 2.24. To that end I deleted both files from the apps folder and the prefferences file com.kapeli.moveaddict.plist from directory /Library/Preferences/ This action cured the problem where moveAddict rendered it impossible to navigate with the arrow keys by causing VO to emit the message one file cut, however, it still does not function. I have the following set in the moveAddictPreferences.appfile: General: Startup Start at login is checked Show in doc not checked Show in menu bar checked. Keyboard shortcuts: Cut keyboard shortcut unknown paste keyboard shortcut unknown I went through all other items in the toolbar but did not alter the defaults as none of the options seemed applicable to my problem. The main issue appears to be that I can not set the cut and paste shortcut keys. I tried pressing command-x an x without the command key but vo emits the character deleted sound and the field is unchanged. I tried interacting and checking for a context menu to no avail. In case they already had the conventional defaults set and supressed the option to alter them I tried cutting and pasting from one folder to another via command-x and command-v but this had no affect. Since I apparently can not count on any support from the auther, I thought I'd check here for any suggestions. TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
Re: MoveAddict still vaporware.
Hi Rose, I've not yet purchased from the Mac app store; did they give you a key, or is it the iOS scheme where the file is specific to your device? If The former, and you have version 2 you would be safe downloading the current version and copying the moveAddict.app and moveAddict preferences.app files to your applications folder,. Overwriting these files would not kill your registration as this information is stored in the property list file (com.kapeli.moveaddict). To reiterate, this is only applicable if the Mac app store did not alter the packaging and like me you still have a key which you can get your hands on. HTH, Geoff On Jan 29, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Rose Morales wrote: Hi Jeff, I downloaded the paid version from the Mac app store. I thought about downloading it directly from the web, but I don't want to have to pay again. And who's to say I wouldn't just get the same .app file instead of the dmg I'm supposed to be getting? I'm still a bit lost. Sorry! Rose On Jan 29, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Hi Rose, The file you should have downloaded is named moveAddict.dmg. It contains an accessibility folder as Esther described earlier. I got it from URL: http://kapeli.com/moveaddict , but if you continue to get a corrupted download from there I would be happy to upload it to sendSpace? Take care. Geoff On Jan 29, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Rose Morales wrote: I didn't get a dmg when I installed MoveAddict. I just got one .app file in my Applications folder. When I run it, MoveAddict crashes. Any suggestions? On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Randy Stegall wrote: Glad you have it working! Randy Stegall kc4...@aol.com Sent from my Mac Mini. On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:09 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Thanks Randy, Esther, and Chuck, I now have it working, though after what amounted to three installs I could have sure done a lot of copying and deleting and saved the five bucks :) I initially attempted to follow Esther's instructions, but cut had no affect. I then hid MoveAddict from both the doc and status menu. This apparently caused a warning to display which precluded going into the dialog. I tried rebooting, to no avail. I then tried the suggestion I received from the support group, which was to launch the terminal app and enter: defaults delete com.kapeli.moveaddict. This time it appeared to be successful (without any additional parms) since it was necessary to reenter my registration. I then took the following steps over both unknown fields: 1. Interact: 2. Even though Mouse is configured to follow VO I pressed vo-command-f5 for good measure. 3. Confirmed that the mouse was in the field (vo-f5). 4. Press the desired shortcut key (i.g. command-x for cut). 5. Stop interacting. As Chuck observed, the fields still show unknown, but I am now able to cut/paste. Best regards. Geoff On Jan 27, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Geoff, What moveAddict tech support told me is that the standard mac key commands for cut and paste are actually in the invisible part of the preferences. Keyboard shortcuts window; Cut keyboard shortcut unknown paste keyboard shortcut unknown when I asked how I enter a key command for cut and paste they said that the default is the standard mac commands! They could at least make these visible using VoiceOver! Talk soon On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, Since the moveAddict support group is apparently ignoring my notes, I decided after reading Esther's post to reinstall moveAddict version 2.24. To that end I deleted both files from the apps folder and the prefferences file com.kapeli.moveaddict.plist from directory /Library/Preferences/ This action cured the problem where moveAddict rendered it impossible to navigate with the arrow keys by causing VO to emit the message one file cut, however, it still does not function. I have the following set in the moveAddictPreferences.appfile: General: Startup Start at login is checked Show in doc not checked Show in menu bar checked. Keyboard shortcuts: Cut keyboard shortcut unknown paste keyboard shortcut unknown I went through all other items in the toolbar but did not alter the defaults as none of the options seemed applicable to my problem. The main issue appears to be that I can not set the cut and paste shortcut keys. I tried pressing command-x an x without the command key but vo emits the character deleted sound and the field is unchanged. I tried interacting and checking for a context menu to no avail. In case they already had the conventional defaults set and supressed the option to alter them I tried cutting and pasting from one folder to another via command-x and command-v but this had no affect. Since I apparently can not count on any support from the auther, I thought I'd check here for any suggestions
Re: MoveAddict still vaporware.
Thanks Randy, Esther, and Chuck, I now have it working, though after what amounted to three installs I could have sure done a lot of copying and deleting and saved the five bucks :) I initially attempted to follow Esther's instructions, but cut had no affect. I then hid MoveAddict from both the doc and status menu. This apparently caused a warning to display which precluded going into the dialog. I tried rebooting, to no avail. I then tried the suggestion I received from the support group, which was to launch the terminal app and enter: defaults delete com.kapeli.moveaddict. This time it appeared to be successful (without any additional parms) since it was necessary to reenter my registration. I then took the following steps over both unknown fields: 1. Interact: 2. Even though Mouse is configured to follow VO I pressed vo-command-f5 for good measure. 3. Confirmed that the mouse was in the field (vo-f5). 4. Press the desired shortcut key (i.g. command-x for cut). 5. Stop interacting. As Chuck observed, the fields still show unknown, but I am now able to cut/paste. Best regards. Geoff On Jan 27, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Geoff, What moveAddict tech support told me is that the standard mac key commands for cut and paste are actually in the invisible part of the preferences. Keyboard shortcuts window; Cut keyboard shortcut unknown paste keyboard shortcut unknown when I asked how I enter a key command for cut and paste they said that the default is the standard mac commands! They could at least make these visible using VoiceOver! Talk soon On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, Since the moveAddict support group is apparently ignoring my notes, I decided after reading Esther's post to reinstall moveAddict version 2.24. To that end I deleted both files from the apps folder and the prefferences file com.kapeli.moveaddict.plist from directory /Library/Preferences/ This action cured the problem where moveAddict rendered it impossible to navigate with the arrow keys by causing VO to emit the message one file cut, however, it still does not function. I have the following set in the moveAddictPreferences.appfile: General: Startup Start at login is checked Show in doc not checked Show in menu bar checked. Keyboard shortcuts: Cut keyboard shortcut unknown paste keyboard shortcut unknown I went through all other items in the toolbar but did not alter the defaults as none of the options seemed applicable to my problem. The main issue appears to be that I can not set the cut and paste shortcut keys. I tried pressing command-x an x without the command key but vo emits the character deleted sound and the field is unchanged. I tried interacting and checking for a context menu to no avail. In case they already had the conventional defaults set and supressed the option to alter them I tried cutting and pasting from one folder to another via command-x and command-v but this had no affect. Since I apparently can not count on any support from the auther, I thought I'd check here for any suggestions. TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning
Greetings Ann and others, Okay, so I gather the reason to get both VUEScan and FineReader is that the former will run the scanner and the latter provides a much better OCR result. Does finereader resolve the orientation? There are eight ways to put a page on the scanner and only one is correct. One would not need to run through all four iterations for the blank side, but for many items which are not always printed lengthwise, it could take as many as four scans to get it right. Mean time, when the orientation is not correct, it takes much longer to recognize, and you end up with a garbage result. So I will probably download VUEScan and see for myself but thought I'd ask here, because if ABBYY cannot determine orientation, I will stick with K1000 for the foreseeable future. Best regards. Geoff all four On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Erik, I can get ABBYY FineReader to recognise my Canon Lide 700F portable USB scanner, but it's a bit fiddly. I find it much easier and more effective to use VueScan to do the scanning and FineReader to do the OCR. VueScan produces beautiful images and FineReader does an almost perfect job with OCR. I set VueScan to produce TIFF files and set TIFF files to always open with ABBYY FineReader. In this way, I launch VueScan, scan as many pages as I need, then FineReader is launched automatically. I've set a shortcut for Convert to Text Document, so all I then have to do is enter the file name and where to put it. It all sounds much more complicated than it really is. I've demonstrated this scanning procedure to very sceptical Windows users and they were impressed by its quality and efficiency. I'll send you my user guide off list so you can see for yourself. cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Safari history no longer updated after Snow leopard reinstall.
Greetings y'all, Last week I reinstalled SnowLeopard and immediately updated to 10.6.6. Since then my Safari history is not maintained; the most recent entry is from he day before I reinstalled. I was kind of surprised that all my files were retained. I don't recall seeing an option to reformat my hard drive and falsely assumed this would occur,; perhaps I did not read the dialogs carefully, but I digress. I checked preferences in both Safari and Webkit but did not find anything applicable. In an attempt to resolve a different issue I ran the disk utility and repaired permissions after having reinstalled. I looked in /Users/USerID/Library/Safari and found two possibly applicable files named: History.plist and HistoryIndex.sk. I opened the plist file but couldn't tell if the values were set correctly, hence didn't want to mess with them. I then looked at permissions, and noticed that the plist file was last updated just before I reinstalled the OS, but the index file's time stamp corresponds to the last time I launched Webkit or Safari. My last step involved a little GIYFing but that has netted me nothing so far. This isn't really a VO issue, but since there is quite a pool of knowledgable people hanging out here I decided to ask if anyone can offer a suggestion. If there are no easy solutions, did I miss a prompt? Is there a way to reformat the drive before reinstalling SnowLeopard? Sorry for those who just experienced one of those dreaded DORD (department of redundancy department) moments as I inadvertently posted this to VIPhone a while ago. TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Gmail via Pop?
Hi Teresa, Using IMAP and filtering list messages into a label I receive all posts (including my own) I assume POP would be applicable at least in terms of the web interface -- since you're not synchronizing labels (aka folders) with your iPhone and/or other computers, however I'm not sure if this will cause them to appear in your in-box or respect what ever filter you defined locally. Geoff On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Anyone tried this? It seems to be working. I'll soon find out if I receive copies of my own messages to the list, too, which I would like. Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari history no longer updated after Snow leopard reinstall.
Hi Carolyn, Thanks much for the suggestion. Sadly private broewsing is *NOT* checked. Good idea though and I had not checked that prior to posting. Geoff On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Geoff: You might check menus, Safari. If private browsing is checked, your surfing history will not be saved. HTH CH On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings y'all, Last week I reinstalled SnowLeopard and immediately updated to 10.6.6. Since then my Safari history is not maintained; the most recent entry is from he day before I reinstalled. I was kind of surprised that all my files were retained. I don't recall seeing an option to reformat my hard drive and falsely assumed this would occur,; perhaps I did not read the dialogs carefully, but I digress. I checked preferences in both Safari and Webkit but did not find anything applicable. In an attempt to resolve a different issue I ran the disk utility and repaired permissions after having reinstalled. I looked in /Users/USerID/Library/Safari and found two possibly applicable files named: History.plist and HistoryIndex.sk. I opened the plist file but couldn't tell if the values were set correctly, hence didn't want to mess with them. I then looked at permissions, and noticed that the plist file was last updated just before I reinstalled the OS, but the index file's time stamp corresponds to the last time I launched Webkit or Safari. My last step involved a little GIYFing but that has netted me nothing so far. This isn't really a VO issue, but since there is quite a pool of knowledgable people hanging out here I decided to ask if anyone can offer a suggestion. If there are no easy solutions, did I miss a prompt? Is there a way to reformat the drive before reinstalling SnowLeopard? Sorry for those who just experienced one of those dreaded DORD (department of redundancy department) moments as I inadvertently posted this to VIPhone a while ago. TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
MoveAddict still vaporware.
Greetings, Since the moveAddict support group is apparently ignoring my notes, I decided after reading Esther's post to reinstall moveAddict version 2.24. To that end I deleted both files from the apps folder and the prefferences file com.kapeli.moveaddict.plist from directory /Library/Preferences/ This action cured the problem where moveAddict rendered it impossible to navigate with the arrow keys by causing VO to emit the message one file cut, however, it still does not function. I have the following set in the moveAddictPreferences.appfile: General: Startup Start at login is checked Show in doc not checked Show in menu bar checked. Keyboard shortcuts: Cut keyboard shortcut unknown paste keyboard shortcut unknown I went through all other items in the toolbar but did not alter the defaults as none of the options seemed applicable to my problem. The main issue appears to be that I can not set the cut and paste shortcut keys. I tried pressing command-x an x without the command key but vo emits the character deleted sound and the field is unchanged. I tried interacting and checking for a context menu to no avail. In case they already had the conventional defaults set and supressed the option to alter them I tried cutting and pasting from one folder to another via command-x and command-v but this had no affect. Since I apparently can not count on any support from the auther, I thought I'd check here for any suggestions. TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Thread/subject agreement - was Re: Solona nearly never available lately
It's always amusing when people admonish the group while committing the vary offense being b#*ched about :) -- After all, anyone can change a subject line, ya know? On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Colin M wrote: Hi there! The subject heading should be changed on this! Thanks Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 27 Jan 2011, at 14:52, brandt wrote: If you can use the mac command line, you're halfway there. Mac's basically unix beautified. Regards, Brandt Steenkamp MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Solona nearly never available lately No I know nothing of unix and I distroyed my last hd in an accident. lol! so that will have to wait. On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:14 PM, brandt wrote: You can get a USB bootable immage from vinux.org.uk If you know anything of unix commands you should be fine. And the only thing you'd want it for anyway is firefox which can be accessed threw the menu with alt/option f1. Regards, Brandt Steenkamp MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:53 PM Subject: Re: Solona nearly never available lately I don't have room on my boot camp partition to be doing that, pluss I don't have any way I don't think to run ubuntu on my mac and I know nothing about lynux. On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:24 AM, brandt wrote: You can run ubuntu in a VM and use webvisum in firefox. The vinux.org.uk version of ubuntu is preconfigured for us VI folks, and free at that. Regards, Brandt Steenkamp MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:37 AM Subject: Re: Solona nearly never available lately Well, let me say this. I did indeed hear that he is ill. I suspect, though, that it wasn't helping the blind that made him sick. Perhaps it was some underlying condition. What ever the case may be, I do hope he gets well. By way of personal reflection, I can't help but wonder what we Mac users can do to effect a software based solution. Sorry, installing windows seems like a cop out to me. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! Skype Name: barefootedray On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Ray,,, the reason Solona is almost never available is because the guy who ran it has been very sick. this was established on another list. this guy dedicated himself to helping blind people to the point where it made him sick. HTH Isaac - Original Message - From: Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:25 PM Subject: Solona nearly never available lately Say, Has anybody here noticed that Solona seems never to be available during the past two months or so? Every single time I log on or tried to use it or just check to see if it's available, it always reports not available. That, I guess, is one of the drawbacks to a human based solution like this, but, just kind of wondering what's going on? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! Skype Name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this
Re: MoveAddict still vaporware.
Randy, Thanks for giving me something to check -- sadly, under system preferences - accounts - UserName - logIn items - the hide items helper box is already checked. On Jan 27, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Randy Stegall wrote: Command x and command v work here. Check the hide checkbox in the login items tab in the accounts system preferences. I did not have to change any of the defaults to get moveaddict to work. Randy Stegall kc4...@aol.com Sent from my Mac Mini. On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, Since the moveAddict support group is apparently ignoring my notes, I decided after reading Esther's post to reinstall moveAddict version 2.24. To that end I deleted both files from the apps folder and the prefferences file com.kapeli.moveaddict.plist from directory /Library/Preferences/ This action cured the problem where moveAddict rendered it impossible to navigate with the arrow keys by causing VO to emit the message one file cut, however, it still does not function. I have the following set in the moveAddictPreferences.appfile: General: Startup Start at login is checked Show in doc not checked Show in menu bar checked. Keyboard shortcuts: Cut keyboard shortcut unknown paste keyboard shortcut unknown I went through all other items in the toolbar but did not alter the defaults as none of the options seemed applicable to my problem. The main issue appears to be that I can not set the cut and paste shortcut keys. I tried pressing command-x an x without the command key but vo emits the character deleted sound and the field is unchanged. I tried interacting and checking for a context menu to no avail. In case they already had the conventional defaults set and supressed the option to alter them I tried cutting and pasting from one folder to another via command-x and command-v but this had no affect. Since I apparently can not count on any support from the auther, I thought I'd check here for any suggestions. TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: scanning
Hi Steph, I too am using tthe tryal version of FineReader express and have never gotten it to work, so this suggestion may be worth every penny you paid for it :). Disclaimer aside, I believe you need to select your scanner in the menu associated with get images from. If your only choice is file then either you don't have a Twane scanner, or the software supporting your scanner is not recognized by ABBYY. Once your scanner is selected, pressing a button such as: convert to text document should activate your scanner. Except on my system where it consistently hangs up even though I have a twane compatible device. Hope you get further than I have so far. Geoff On Jan 27, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: Hi again, Sorry for all the questions but i am a new user. I got abbyy working but can't find a scan button. There are convert options, and a thing to ask where to get the immage from. It is set to file and there are other options in the menu that pops up when i click it. but vo won't read the items. What's the easist way to scan a document? Thanks, Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Installing a program on the Mac
Some disk images, however do not include an install program. In such cases, copy the file with an extention of .app to your applications folder. You can then go into finder, press control-shift-c, locate the volume of the disk image and press command-e to eject it. You can then delete the disk image file. HTH. Geoff On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Normally, you simply open the installer program and follow the prompts. Is there something unique about the program you are attempting to install? Later... On 2011-01-27, at 10:34 PM, denise avant wrote: Hi all Can someone tell e how to install a program on the Mac Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover interacting when collapsing threads in mail message table
Greetings Frank and others, I went into voiceOver utility - navigation and unchecked:automatically interact when using tab key. Now I can use the right and left arrowkeys to expand and contract threads respectivly, and since I retained my preview pane, the tab key usually causes VO to read the highlighted message. HTH. Geoff On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Hmm I think I can expand and collapse with out interacting. Ive been able to do it before. S On Jan 26, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Jane wrote: I haven't found a different way to do it. You have to interact an then collapse. At least for now. Jane On Jan 26, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hello I search the list archive to see if I could find anything about this and didn't come up with anything, so forgive me if this has been asked before. It seems as though voiceover always wants to interact with the table when I collapse a thread. I don't like this much. Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks much --FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Scanning via ABBYY FineReader express.
Greetings, I just installed ABBYY's trial version and reinstalled the software/driver for my HP c7250 AllInOne printer. (Reinstalling cured my insecure startup item problem BTW, but I digress.). I can scan using the HP app, however upon pressing the convert to text button, VO emits the following: system ScanTwain needs attention, and fineReader appears to hang. I located the HP scan app in the status menu via the mouse moves VO cursor option and scanned with the document profile. The scanner whirrs and appears to complete, however the fineReader continues to hang. I force quit the app, but when I restart the ABBYY app but it apparently reissues the message regarding ScanTwain and hangs. All functions within the app result in VO emitting the word: busy. I located the hp scan window and pressed the button indicating that there were no more pages, but this had no affect. HTH for any advice. Maybe time to contact ABBYY? Best regards, Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: defaults delete command - was moveAddict kills tracking.
Greetings, the moveAddict support rep advised that I launch the terminal app and run the following command: defaults delete com.kapeli.moveaddict Reply states: Could not write domain com.kapeli.moveaddict The moveAddict rep asked that I verify that my account had Admin authority and that I entered the command correctly. I confirmed this and resent my email a couple times once a day since then but have not heard back. I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask here if anyone can think of a reason why that command did not work since I apparently have their support group stumped. BTW I'm not impressed -- at least they can reply that they received my emails? TIA and best regards. Geoff On Jan 22, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Interesting, The VO configuration items you referenced match, and I switched to column view. I recently reinstalled the OS and repaired permissions. Still, after launching moveAddict I hear the message one item cut as I arrow through folders, and the highlighted folder does not change. If noone here has any ideas, perhaps it's time to contact their support group. Geoff On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:11 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Geoff, Maybe this is do to your voiceover cursor configuration? I haven't had any of these problems. Or any problems with the app for that matter. I have cursor tracking on, and my mouse cursor is set to follow my voiceover cursor. I am also using column view in the finder. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings all, I'm sure I'm overlooking something because up till now moveAddict's only function (on my machine anyway) is to render it impossible to traverse files and folders in finder. I've been through all options in the prefferences app and have not yet found anything applicable. None of the keyboard shortcuts are identified or obviously configurable, and I did not bother with the buttons. I'm assuming they follow the basic Winblows convention anyway. So I Start moveAddict .app and select three files via command-a I then press command-x to cut them. Next I press command-n followed by command-c. When ever I down arrow to locate my sd card Alex says moveAddict - one item cut. Strange, considering that three items should have been. I can open the sd card (right arrow in list view) but then can not arrow down to select a folder -- the moveAddict message is spoken every time I press down arrow and focus remains on the first folder. The only way I can navigate anything in finder again is to restart my MBP since I can't find or force quit moveAddict. Since others are apparently using this successfully, I'm sure there's a step I'm missing. TIA for any suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Solving captures on the Mac
From what I've seen recently about Soolona's up time I'd advise installing Firefox on a Windows machine so that you can use the Webvisum plug-in. I have the impression that Firefox won't be accessible on the Mac any time soon, but then you probably knew all this before you posted? Geoff On Jan 25, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Conrad Bennett wrote: Can anybody please tell me what is good to use to solve captures on the Mac Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: moveAddict kills tracking.
Interesting, The VO configuration items you referenced match, and I switched to column view. I recently reinstalled the OS and repaired permissions. Still, after launching moveAddict I hear the message one item cut as I arrow through folders, and the highlighted folder does not change. If noone here has any ideas, perhaps it's time to contact their support group. Geoff On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:11 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Geoff, Maybe this is do to your voiceover cursor configuration? I haven't had any of these problems. Or any problems with the app for that matter. I have cursor tracking on, and my mouse cursor is set to follow my voiceover cursor. I am also using column view in the finder. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:42 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings all, I'm sure I'm overlooking something because up till now moveAddict's only function (on my machine anyway) is to render it impossible to traverse files and folders in finder. I've been through all options in the prefferences app and have not yet found anything applicable. None of the keyboard shortcuts are identified or obviously configurable, and I did not bother with the buttons. I'm assuming they follow the basic Winblows convention anyway. So I Start moveAddict .app and select three files via command-a I then press command-x to cut them. Next I press command-n followed by command-c. When ever I down arrow to locate my sd card Alex says moveAddict - one item cut. Strange, considering that three items should have been. I can open the sd card (right arrow in list view) but then can not arrow down to select a folder -- the moveAddict message is spoken every time I press down arrow and focus remains on the first folder. The only way I can navigate anything in finder again is to restart my MBP since I can't find or force quit moveAddict. Since others are apparently using this successfully, I'm sure there's a step I'm missing. TIA for any suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Insecure startup item disabled.
Thanks John and Carolyn, Repairing permissions had no affect. I'm not sure where this item came from; I gather others do not have HP Trap monitor placed in their library/startup items folder? If so, perhaps the installation of my HP all in one driver was the culpret, and I can just delete it and reinstall the driver if doing so adversely affects printing? Best regards. Geoff On Jan 21, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Geoff: Just to add to John's comment: I've been told it's always a good idea to reaper permissions after reinstalling anything. It helps assimilate any updates that might not be congruent with the initial software. Carolyn H On Jan 21, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: Is this an application you need? It sounds almost like an SNMP manager. Apple has been locking down programs that could allow malware to get into the system. Startup items are a good place for this to happen. I suggest trying to run the Repair permissions in the Disk Utility. Let me know if you need some more help. Jon On 20 January 2011 22:25, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, After reinstalling SnowLeopard I receive the following upon system startup: Insecure startup item disabled. “/Library/StartupItems/HP Trap Monitor” has not been started because it does not have the proper security settings. According to my friendly search engin, similar problems were resolved by verifying that the permissions for the folder and all items within were set to: System=Read/Write Admin and everyone = ReadOnly. This solution is not working here and I didn't see anything else that matched the problem as closely. TIA for any other suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Insecure startup item disabled.
Thanks to all who offered advice publicly and privately. Not sure how to follow John's instructions; I selected add, but found no group named wheel or user named system. The only available group was administrators. What next? Maybe reinstall the HP driver? On Jan 21, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Jon Cohn wrote: Yes this is associated with HP printers. I looked at a startup item I had and besides the permissions you need to have the User as system and the group as wheel... On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Thanks John and Carolyn, Repairing permissions had no affect. I'm not sure where this item came from; I gather others do not have HP Trap monitor placed in their library/startup items folder? If so, perhaps the installation of my HP all in one driver was the culpret, and I can just delete it and reinstall the driver if doing so adversely affects printing? Best regards. Geoff On Jan 21, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Geoff: Just to add to John's comment: I've been told it's always a good idea to reaper permissions after reinstalling anything. It helps assimilate any updates that might not be congruent with the initial software. Carolyn H On Jan 21, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: Is this an application you need? It sounds almost like an SNMP manager. Apple has been locking down programs that could allow malware to get into the system. Startup items are a good place for this to happen. I suggest trying to run the Repair permissions in the Disk Utility. Let me know if you need some more help. Jon On 20 January 2011 22:25, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, After reinstalling SnowLeopard I receive the following upon system startup: Insecure startup item disabled. “/Library/StartupItems/HP Trap Monitor” has not been started because it does not have the proper security settings. According to my friendly search engin, similar problems were resolved by verifying that the permissions for the folder and all items within were set to: System=Read/Write Admin and everyone = ReadOnly. This solution is not working here and I didn't see anything else that matched the problem as closely. TIA for any other suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
moveAddict kills tracking.
Greetings all, I'm sure I'm overlooking something because up till now moveAddict's only function (on my machine anyway) is to render it impossible to traverse files and folders in finder. I've been through all options in the prefferences app and have not yet found anything applicable. None of the keyboard shortcuts are identified or obviously configurable, and I did not bother with the buttons. I'm assuming they follow the basic Winblows convention anyway. So I Start moveAddict .app and select three files via command-a I then press command-x to cut them. Next I press command-n followed by command-c. When ever I down arrow to locate my sd card Alex says moveAddict - one item cut. Strange, considering that three items should have been. I can open the sd card (right arrow in list view) but then can not arrow down to select a folder -- the moveAddict message is spoken every time I press down arrow and focus remains on the first folder. The only way I can navigate anything in finder again is to restart my MBP since I can't find or force quit moveAddict. Since others are apparently using this successfully, I'm sure there's a step I'm missing. TIA for any suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Router filtering webkit - wasSafari weirdness.
This AM I reinstalled Snow Leopard and can no longer reproduce the problem. Very strange since it really appeared to be associated with my router. Thanks for everyone's help on this. On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Oh that tells you that you have connectivity end to end so it's some sort of application / firewall issue. Just a guess. On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Thanks, Adding the port number results in a connection, but how does this info help me trouble shoot? Apparently my DLink isn't blocking access, yet I can check for updates when I connect directly to the modem? On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Scott Granados wrote: You need to put an 80 after the telnet so something like telnet mycompany.org 80 the 80 gives you the correct port number. On Jan 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Thanks much for the suggestion Andre, I reset my DLink 655 to factory defaults and confirmed that it is indeed set to DHCP. When I attempt to telnet to http://nightly.webkit.org;, it times out Trying: 208.68.139.89 Needless to say nothing happens when I click on the download the latest nightly build link from webkit.org. As noted before all attempts to check for updates appear to time out and issue the error message documented initially. When I ping the address from windows I receive a reply from a different IP 208.68.143.55, though it also hangs when I attempt to enter that URL from either Mozilla or MSIE. The problem disappears when I remove the router and connect directly to my cable modem. Very strange since until recently I had no problems while attached wirelessly via my DLink 655. Except for the fact that my problem is with access to the webkit site, this is really a network issue, hence is probably OT here. Perhaps if anyone is willing to help you can write me privately, and I will post the solution here in case anyone is curious (assuming I find a solution that is). Best regards. Geoff On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote: Hello Geoff , Check your DNS configuration. Did you set it manually? If so, change it to DHCP and see if it helps. Also, what happens if you do a telnet to the webkit address from the terminal? HTH, André On 18-01-2011 18:23, Geoff Waaler wrote: Okay, I am officially replying to my own post. It's a long story, but to reduce it to the relevant facts, I am able to update webkit when I attach my MBP directly to the cable modem via eathernet. When routers are introduced into the circuit, however, I always experience the symptoms described below. I've seen this both with my Mother's Linksys router and my d-link DIR655 which are both at the latest available firmware levels. There is no filtering configured on either router, and until late December I had no problems updating webkit from either location. While visiting the Apple store I had no difficulty updating Webkit using their hotspot, hence I presume there must be a way to accomplish the task through routerssmile. More over, I wouldn't be the only one posting on this. To reitterate, I have no web filtering active on either device, and as far as I know, only the webkit download and update check sites are affected. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Geoff On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, I'm having varied symptoms browsing on my MBP. Perhaps the two are related -- I'm guessing so. It all started when Webkit randomly hung up. I would press the submit button in a form and then Voiceover would repeatidly announce safari busy and safari ready. Pressing a key did not take and I had to close and reopen the browser. Next, I was unable to update Webkit. Since that problem appeared to be unique to me I erased webkit.app and attempted to download the current build. For several days now I click on the download link and after about 30 seconds I receive the following message: Safari can’t open the page “http://nightly.webkit.org/” because the server where this page is located isn’t responding. I can't load that URL on my XP machine either, but can't imagine that my ISP is blocking it? I'm also having problems displaying other pages. For example, I'm attempting to register at the Apple developer site and it hangs after I press submit. I killed my cookies, but this had no affect. Could not find how to clear any other cache that could be a factor? Is it time to reinstall Snow leopard? Btw, version 10.6.7 is installed, but my problem began before this update was available. TIA for any suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr
Re: Router filtering webkit - wasSafari weirdness.
Thanks much for the suggestion Andre, I reset my DLink 655 to factory defaults and confirmed that it is indeed set to DHCP. When I attempt to telnet to http://nightly.webkit.org;, it times out Trying: 208.68.139.89 Needless to say nothing happens when I click on the download the latest nightly build link from webkit.org. As noted before all attempts to check for updates appear to time out and issue the error message documented initially. When I ping the address from windows I receive a reply from a different IP 208.68.143.55, though it also hangs when I attempt to enter that URL from either Mozilla or MSIE. The problem disappears when I remove the router and connect directly to my cable modem. Very strange since until recently I had no problems while attached wirelessly via my DLink 655. Except for the fact that my problem is with access to the webkit site, this is really a network issue, hence is probably OT here. Perhaps if anyone is willing to help you can write me privately, and I will post the solution here in case anyone is curious (assuming I find a solution that is). Best regards. Geoff On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote: Hello Geoff , Check your DNS configuration. Did you set it manually? If so, change it to DHCP and see if it helps. Also, what happens if you do a telnet to the webkit address from the terminal? HTH, André On 18-01-2011 18:23, Geoff Waaler wrote: Okay, I am officially replying to my own post. It's a long story, but to reduce it to the relevant facts, I am able to update webkit when I attach my MBP directly to the cable modem via eathernet. When routers are introduced into the circuit, however, I always experience the symptoms described below. I've seen this both with my Mother's Linksys router and my d-link DIR655 which are both at the latest available firmware levels. There is no filtering configured on either router, and until late December I had no problems updating webkit from either location. While visiting the Apple store I had no difficulty updating Webkit using their hotspot, hence I presume there must be a way to accomplish the task through routerssmile. More over, I wouldn't be the only one posting on this. To reitterate, I have no web filtering active on either device, and as far as I know, only the webkit download and update check sites are affected. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Geoff On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, I'm having varied symptoms browsing on my MBP. Perhaps the two are related -- I'm guessing so. It all started when Webkit randomly hung up. I would press the submit button in a form and then Voiceover would repeatidly announce safari busy and safari ready. Pressing a key did not take and I had to close and reopen the browser. Next, I was unable to update Webkit. Since that problem appeared to be unique to me I erased webkit.app and attempted to download the current build. For several days now I click on the download link and after about 30 seconds I receive the following message: Safari can’t open the page “http://nightly.webkit.org/” because the server where this page is located isn’t responding. I can't load that URL on my XP machine either, but can't imagine that my ISP is blocking it? I'm also having problems displaying other pages. For example, I'm attempting to register at the Apple developer site and it hangs after I press submit. I killed my cookies, but this had no affect. Could not find how to clear any other cache that could be a factor? Is it time to reinstall Snow leopard? Btw, version 10.6.7 is installed, but my problem began before this update was available. TIA for any suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Router filtering webkit - wasSafari weirdness.
Thanks, Adding the port number results in a connection, but how does this info help me trouble shoot? Apparently my DLink isn't blocking access, yet I can check for updates when I connect directly to the modem? On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Scott Granados wrote: You need to put an 80 after the telnet so something like telnet mycompany.org 80 the 80 gives you the correct port number. On Jan 19, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Thanks much for the suggestion Andre, I reset my DLink 655 to factory defaults and confirmed that it is indeed set to DHCP. When I attempt to telnet to http://nightly.webkit.org;, it times out Trying: 208.68.139.89 Needless to say nothing happens when I click on the download the latest nightly build link from webkit.org. As noted before all attempts to check for updates appear to time out and issue the error message documented initially. When I ping the address from windows I receive a reply from a different IP 208.68.143.55, though it also hangs when I attempt to enter that URL from either Mozilla or MSIE. The problem disappears when I remove the router and connect directly to my cable modem. Very strange since until recently I had no problems while attached wirelessly via my DLink 655. Except for the fact that my problem is with access to the webkit site, this is really a network issue, hence is probably OT here. Perhaps if anyone is willing to help you can write me privately, and I will post the solution here in case anyone is curious (assuming I find a solution that is). Best regards. Geoff On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote: Hello Geoff , Check your DNS configuration. Did you set it manually? If so, change it to DHCP and see if it helps. Also, what happens if you do a telnet to the webkit address from the terminal? HTH, André On 18-01-2011 18:23, Geoff Waaler wrote: Okay, I am officially replying to my own post. It's a long story, but to reduce it to the relevant facts, I am able to update webkit when I attach my MBP directly to the cable modem via eathernet. When routers are introduced into the circuit, however, I always experience the symptoms described below. I've seen this both with my Mother's Linksys router and my d-link DIR655 which are both at the latest available firmware levels. There is no filtering configured on either router, and until late December I had no problems updating webkit from either location. While visiting the Apple store I had no difficulty updating Webkit using their hotspot, hence I presume there must be a way to accomplish the task through routerssmile. More over, I wouldn't be the only one posting on this. To reitterate, I have no web filtering active on either device, and as far as I know, only the webkit download and update check sites are affected. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Geoff On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, I'm having varied symptoms browsing on my MBP. Perhaps the two are related -- I'm guessing so. It all started when Webkit randomly hung up. I would press the submit button in a form and then Voiceover would repeatidly announce safari busy and safari ready. Pressing a key did not take and I had to close and reopen the browser. Next, I was unable to update Webkit. Since that problem appeared to be unique to me I erased webkit.app and attempted to download the current build. For several days now I click on the download link and after about 30 seconds I receive the following message: Safari can’t open the page “http://nightly.webkit.org/” because the server where this page is located isn’t responding. I can't load that URL on my XP machine either, but can't imagine that my ISP is blocking it? I'm also having problems displaying other pages. For example, I'm attempting to register at the Apple developer site and it hangs after I press submit. I killed my cookies, but this had no affect. Could not find how to clear any other cache that could be a factor? Is it time to reinstall Snow leopard? Btw, version 10.6.7 is installed, but my problem began before this update was available. TIA for any suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
Router filtering webkit - wasSafari weirdness.
Okay, I am officially replying to my own post. It's a long story, but to reduce it to the relevant facts, I am able to update webkit when I attach my MBP directly to the cable modem via eathernet. When routers are introduced into the circuit, however, I always experience the symptoms described below. I've seen this both with my Mother's Linksys router and my d-link DIR655 which are both at the latest available firmware levels. There is no filtering configured on either router, and until late December I had no problems updating webkit from either location. While visiting the Apple store I had no difficulty updating Webkit using their hotspot, hence I presume there must be a way to accomplish the task through routers smile. More over, I wouldn't be the only one posting on this. To reitterate, I have no web filtering active on either device, and as far as I know, only the webkit download and update check sites are affected. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Geoff On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, I'm having varied symptoms browsing on my MBP. Perhaps the two are related -- I'm guessing so. It all started when Webkit randomly hung up. I would press the submit button in a form and then Voiceover would repeatidly announce safari busy and safari ready. Pressing a key did not take and I had to close and reopen the browser. Next, I was unable to update Webkit. Since that problem appeared to be unique to me I erased webkit.app and attempted to download the current build. For several days now I click on the download link and after about 30 seconds I receive the following message: Safari can’t open the page “http://nightly.webkit.org/” because the server where this page is located isn’t responding. I can't load that URL on my XP machine either, but can't imagine that my ISP is blocking it? I'm also having problems displaying other pages. For example, I'm attempting to register at the Apple developer site and it hangs after I press submit. I killed my cookies, but this had no affect. Could not find how to clear any other cache that could be a factor? Is it time to reinstall Snow leopard? Btw, version 10.6.7 is installed, but my problem began before this update was available. TIA for any suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Links and urls
Greetings, VO+shift+m is equivalent to the right mouse button in windows, and you'll find a copy link option. HTH. Geoff On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:48 PM, AZ wrote: Hi. How can i copy a url of a link on a page? With Windows and Jaws it was not a problem, i just made a right mouse button click. It worked too when i saved the object as, now i'm wondering how to do this in MacOS X? AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Safari weirdness.
Greetings, I'm having varied symptoms browsing on my MBP. Perhaps the two are related -- I'm guessing so. It all started when Webkit randomly hung up. I would press the submit button in a form and then Voiceover would repeatidly announce safari busy and safari ready. Pressing a key did not take and I had to close and reopen the browser. Next, I was unable to update Webkit. Since that problem appeared to be unique to me I erased webkit.app and attempted to download the current build. For several days now I click on the download link and after about 30 seconds I receive the following message: Safari can’t open the page “http://nightly.webkit.org/” because the server where this page is located isn’t responding. I can't load that URL on my XP machine either, but can't imagine that my ISP is blocking it? I'm also having problems displaying other pages. For example, I'm attempting to register at the Apple developer site and it hangs after I press submit. I killed my cookies, but this had no affect. Could not find how to clear any other cache that could be a factor? Is it time to reinstall Snow leopard? Btw, version 10.6.7 is installed, but my problem began before this update was available. TIA for any suggestions. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mod note -- expressive language.
Greetings y'all, Some may be familiar with George Carlon's routine discussing the seven words you can't say on television (at least here in the US). Recent posts have prompted us to remind you that this list conforms to those rules. We have subscribers of all faiths and ages, hence one can not assume that everyone is comfortable with the use of overly colorful language. As George points out, there are over 400,000 words in the English language, so it shouldn't be overly limiting to ask that posters confine themselves to the 399,993 remaining words. Those who can not will need to be limited to read only access. Thanks and hope everyone's having a good weekend.. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple script editor.
Hi Yuma,
Thanks much for your post, but please forgive a few follow up questions.
I understand that I need to locate errors by searching for color changes
(vo-command-k), but have not yet determined how to configure colors such that
errors will be unique.. The closest applicable VO configuration appears to be
under verbosity - text. I also noticed where fonts can be customized in the
Script Editor prefferences , but none of the items under the formatting tab
list errors.
Under prefferences - edit the use script assistant item is checked, which I
thought would suggest line completions, but perhaps this is more of a clutter
for voiceOver users since I've seen no sign of this occurring? Perhaps xCode
is the better solution.
I understood your example, to copy a parm from a list of possible values,
however was not clear about your suggestion of how to construct a text file?
How would the header strings be helpful? Wouldn't they serve to make me count
more text items to refference them properly smile?
Until I construct my text file, I'll need to cut and paste from the applicable
application dictionary. Which one (if any) should be used for scripting that
is not necessarily application specific? To clarify, yesterday I wanted to
display my hello world message, and thought the command was display prompt,
rather than display dialog. I opened the script editor dictionary, but could
not locate the proper command, so eventially located it in the script reference
manual. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that until I have
the syntax memorized, I'll need to either consult the manual, or construct the
text file you spoke of?
Thanks again for taking the time to respond, and best regards.
Geoff
On Jan 8, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
Hi Jeff,
First off, you have no choice but to keep the library open and switch from
editor to dictionary and refer yourself or copy paste with selections.
As for debugging purposes, sighted people can see that a syntax error
generates a color change where the error is. In the case of us blind users,
one solution is to use the next changed attribute vo shortcut to find where
the bug is. Before this actually becomes relevant, you have to go into the vo
preferences and turn all texts except for error text to one color and error
to any other color, so that you don't have to shuffle through all different
attributes like verb, argument, etc before you get to the error color text.
One more solution is to use xcode instead of the applescript editor and use
xcode's own debugger.
I will track back to the problem of copy pasting.
Here is a snippet from the top of my head to perhaps alleviate the problem:
set list_command to {arg1,arg2,arg3,etc}
display list_command as list with default arg1
On press button
Copy selection
You would compile the script and append it to a shortcut for quick reference.
To make the thing more flexible, you can copy paste all the commands into a
tex file with headers, distinguish the headers with long strings and commands
as singular words.
As you get more versed with commands, you just add them to the text file, and
make an applescript which lists all the commands from the text file by using
the item reference within the document class.
Good luck.
Best
Yuma DX®
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Can't update Webkit.
Greetings, I wonder if this problem is unique to me -- I presume so since Googling didn't shed much light on it. For the past several days when I attempt to check for webkit updates, it presents a progress dialog for about 30 seconds and then shows the following: text Update Error! An error occurred in retrieving update information. Please try again later. cancel update default button. Is anyone else experiencing this,? I'm guessing I can delete the app and download/install the current nightly build, but forget which site to look for the current build? Best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Apple script editor.
Greetings y'all, The help doc indicates that the Editor can assist with syntax, command selection and pin point errors. I have not yet determined how to exploit these features with VoiceOver. First, I mistakenly thought the command was display prompt, and when it was not recognized, went looking for a list of available commands. As I used the VO+arrow keys to treverse the window, I only saw a pop up button where the only available choices appeared to be to tell the current application or 24 other possible applications. VO+right arrowing from there shows an empty list of elements. Is there a way to browse available commands and have your selection entered into the source, or is it necessary to keep the AppleScript reference handy? Next, I attempted to run the following script: set MyText = hello world display dialog MyText resulting in the following: Syntax Error A end of line can’t go after this “”. OKay default button. When I changed line 1 to: set MyText to hello world it presented the expected dialog box, but I could not determine whether it was complaining about the first or second line,, and it wouldn't seem likely that it was treating my first attempt as a one liner with a continuation character? In a two line script, debugging wasn't to difficult, but in the case of a longer one, it would be nice to know exactly where the compiler puked. Finally, I opened the voiceOver dictionary and perused the HTML page showing available objects and commands. Is there a way to select commands from app dictionaries, or is it necessary to manually cut/paste? TIA for any suggestions or pointers to information about using the script editor with VO. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Obtaining battery status - was Using a Macbook/MacBook Pro as Primary Computer?
Hi Az, You can check the battery status by pressing vo-m twice and then two left arrows will get you to the battery status menu. Alternatively, you can use trackpad commander and double tap twice with two fingers near the top and locate the desired status menu on the upper right side of the trackpad. HTH. Geoff On Dec 23, 2010, at 11:49 AM, AZ wrote: Hi. I have my MacBook only two weeks, but i've found it very useful for my working, and i don't know, if it is possible to read the battery state spoken by VoiceOver? How do you know, when to charge? AZ 23.12.2010 20:16, Brianna Snyder writes: Hey list, Thanks to everyone for their input. I like hearing how everyone uses their macBooks, and how they take care of them if it's their main computer. You guys have helped me to see that I can continue to use my Mac as I have been doing, and I don't have to worry about hurting the battery at this point in time. Thanks for all the opinions and suggestions. It all helps. Brianna On Dec 23, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Scott Ford wrote: Hi Brianna, Great questions! I use my MBP exclusively. On the 26th I will have used it for two years. About a month ago my power supply quit working. This was caused by this little plastic clip that is on the computer charging side of the cord. While in my computer bag the plastic part cut into the cord then breaking the insulation, finally causing a short and the power supply. I had heat shrunk the cable before the supply quit working, however it does not appear to have helped. In any case I brought the power supply and MBP in to make sure that the battery was not the problem. The tech ran their diagnostics on the system. In the 18 months I charged the system around 300 times and the the batter checked out fine. Additionally the tech told me that my battery is expected to be charged and discharged 5000 times. Finally he told me that I could glean this information some where in the system and their diagnostics is just faster and provides additional information. I have cut the plastic part off of my new power supply. An interesting note also is that the old power supply had an end that came straight out of the computer and was white plastic just like the old Macbooks. My new power supply has an end on it that is round with a brushed aluminum and clips on in a 90 degree angle I really like my MBP, however I am finding that the hardware is no different than pc hardware. This morning I discovered that the left hinge is failing and the display is rubbing on the body. This is the second time that something like this has occurred. I recommend that you purchase the applecare if you have not already done so. merry Christmas. Sincerely, Scott On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Brianna Snyder wrote: Hi, I just got my MacBook Pro about a month and a half ago. Now that I've started figuring more and more things out, I find myself using the Mac way more than my old Windows desktop. I was just wondering if anyone used their MacBook/MacBook Pro as their main computer? I'd love to, as I love the OS so much more than windows. The only thing stopping me is I don't know how much it hurts the battery to use it every day until it tells me I'm running on reserved battery power, when I charge it, sometimes while still using it. I was just wondering if this could hurt my battery in any way, and under this kind of usage, how long the battery would last until I need to replace it. Sorry for all the questions, I've just been really wondering this for a while. Thanks for all your help, Brianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,
Re: safari questions
Yes Benjamin, I was not clear. Obviously control+a control+c are identical with their command key Mac counterparts, however in the Mac world one can not be selective in their selection with the shift+arrow keys while viewing a web page. Carolyn correctly differentiated what I meant from what I said :) I guess the only workaround is the earlier suggestion to go into reader and selectively paste from the mail composition window. Best regards. Geoff On Dec 17, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com wrote: We're talking about the ability to copy something like an article or collumn of text without having to do select-all and chop later. I think Geoff is saying the method of Vo-Shift-Return to set start and stop selecting wasn't working well for him. I'm not saying VO-Shift-Return works, but Geoff was comparing it with pressing control-a - control-c in MSIE or FireFox, which does not copy something like an article or column of text. My point is Command-A Command-C works exactly the same way in Safari. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari questions
Hi Benjamin, Thanks for providing the text case. My configuration matches yours exactly (I have 10.6.5 installed) but my results vary from what you and Ricardo report in both Safari and the latest Webkit version. When I launch the URL referenced below and navigate to the level 1 heading containing text: Immigration cap overturned by high court judges, I hear nothing as I press the shift-arrow keys. If I act on faith and press command-c, my clipboard contents is not altered,. Sorry for the implication that you did not test before posting, but our results varied so radically, and your initial greeting of say what struck me as kind of hostel and perhaps caused me to become overly emotive. I'd sure like to know what configuration is affecting this. Best regards. Geoff On Dec 17, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: That or you may want to perform a modicum of testing before sending your posts? I _did_ do a modicum of testing. Specifically, I fired up Safari and VoiceOver and tested out the effect of shift-arrow on an existing select all and to start a new selection from a navigation point within a document. Tried with this article for what it's worth: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/dec/17/high-court-overturns-immigration-cap Navigating to the start of the article, you can use shift-arrow to begin the selection and expand it until you've selected the entire article text, then Command-C to copy it. This is with VoiceOver configured with Keyboard focus follows VoiceOver cursor, VoiceOver cursor follows keyboard focus, Insertion point follows VoiceOver cursor, VoiceOver cursor follows insertion point, and Navigate webpages by DOM order. If you're experiencing radically different results, it may well reflect differing configuration. As each line or character is highlighted, VoiceOver reads the text then highlighted. If you contract the selection, it reads the unselected text then unhighlighted. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari questions
Okay, but when a page consists of hundreds of items, one must do this Items times N times rather than pressing control-a - control-c in MSIE or FireFox? I attempted to use the technique described below to copy a long oped column and very quickly gave up and booted up the old Netbook. TIA for any other suggestions. Geoff On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: The answer to bot of these is to interact with the item. You can then read it word by word, or character by character. To select text, interact with the item, then press control option enter at the beginning of what you want to copy. Now move to the end of the text to copy and press control option enter again, then press command c to copy the text. On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Mike or others, One problem I have with surfing the web on the Mac is that I can't copy and paste consistently from websites. I mean that since it moves by item and not by line, I have a hard time copying the text of an item. I also wonder if there is an easier way to read the text within an item rather than navigating to it and doing vo a. Just another of my many wonders as I wander through the land of Mac. Marlaina On Dec 15, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Actually, once you get used to it, it works much better than the windows screen readers. It moves by item rather than by line, I find surfing the web on the mac to be a very enjoyable experience. On Dec 14, 2010, at 9:24 PM, denise avant wrote: hello all, after being an internet explorer user for years and years, i am trying to learn to use safari. what question i have is what the command is for jumping to text on a page once you have landed on the page you need. i'm not finding safari with vo as intuitive as ie is with windoweyes or jfw unfortunately. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
The KillAll command
Greetings, I meant to reply to one of Nic's recent posts, but deleted it. He suggested that if VO goes silent one could enter terminal into spotlight and then enter -- I forget the exact command but believe it was killallall -9 voiceover. I tried this with and without the extra all and also tried inserting a space between the two alls, but only receive a message that no matching processes were found. I'd like to get this right in case I do experience a vo crash. May not have recalled the parm Nic mentioned, but I did use the one he specified (which may not have been -9). TIA for any clarification, and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The KillAll command
Hi Eric and Nic, Thanks much -- the -9 seems to cause a restart, hence appears to have the identical affect of the -hup parm. On Nov 24, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi! True enough. -HUP accomplishes the same thing, though, but of course the parameters mean something different. I always just use -9 to ensure it actually quits, and it's just as efficient in the long-run. And, it's less parameters to type. Regards, ic GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Nov 24, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: the killall command works. -9 will simply force it to quit. I prefer the use of killall -HUP VoiceOver as it forces a reset of voiceover without going through all the issues of restarting it via keystrokes. btw, you must capitalize the V and the O otherwise it will not find the process name. -Eric On Nov 24, 2010, at 1:53 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, I meant to reply to one of Nic's recent posts, but deleted it. He suggested that if VO goes silent one could enter terminal into spotlight and then enter -- I forget the exact command but believe it was killallall -9 voiceover. I tried this with and without the extra all and also tried inserting a space between the two alls, but only receive a message that no matching processes were found. I'd like to get this right in case I do experience a vo crash. May not have recalled the parm Nic mentioned, but I did use the one he specified (which may not have been -9). TIA for any clarification, and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Fun noises alex makes.
But in one area Alex is sorely deficient as compared to Eloquence in that he does not gurhrhrhrhr properly. Hum, clearly time for a high priority growl at the mac accessibility group!! Great discovery Andy!! Geoff On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Andy: In fun, I'll say you obviously don't have enought work to do.:) I'm a big fan of trying to get these speech synthesizers to say funny things. If you type several o's in a row, and put a question mark at the end, he'll sort of sing, though the O is just a waivery repeat. Still, it's amusing the first time. I know it seems a strange thing to waist time on, but some days anything that brings a smile is welcome On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Andy Lane wrote: Hi, Obviously we all know and love that alex breathes like a real person but I noticed something today that I hadn't before, he can say pst. I thought that was so fun I tried a few more noises and only managed to find a few, I found hu and s. I love that Apple included these I certainly don't have anything so human sounding or fun in Neospeech Kate which is the TTS I use at work with zoomtext. Anyway, just wanted to share that incase you didn't know. Also if anyone knows any others I'd love to know them too. Thanks. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com When you come to a fork in the road, It's time to eat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mod note: the oh boy thread and other chat group messages.
Greetings y'all, Personally I prefer a moderating style involving minimal intrusion,, hence kept hoping the Oh boy topic would die on its own because by any reasonable analysis, about 90 percent of it consisted of off topic posts which would be more aptly written to a chat group. Alas, as Paul Harvey opined thousands of times during his 60 years of broadcasts here in the US, self government won't work without self discipline. Therefore since we have 593 subscribers at this writing, I feel compelled to ask that everyone bare this in mind before posting. Do nearly 600 people need to take several seconds to learn that a subscriber intends to try a recommendation, or upload a podcast and provide a link in the future, for example? More over, I would suggest that it's implicit that answers to posts are appreciated, hence considering the volume of traffic and number of subscribers, the best way to show thanks might be to avoid filling everyone's in-box with a one line post and perhaps consider sending a private note instead? So as not to take up even more bandwidth, I'll close here. Best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ot: maby, digest mode?
Karen, A line is appended to the end of every post. Several actually, but the specific one I have in mind is: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. HTH. Geoff On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Wondering if there is one since I am saving far more than I am reading these days. Thanks, Karen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Trackpad Hints in Voiceover
Hi Teresa, If you are using the preview pane you can press tab and the message is often read. I should mention that I turned off the option to automatically interact when pressing tab, hence am not interacting with the message table. If the email is not read you can interact via the two finger flick right. While interacting you can skim read by moving your finger down quickly or commence reading further down. More over you can double tap over links to activate them. Best regards. Geoff On Nov 15, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Hi, all, I'm getting the hang of my new Magic Trackpad with the Mac Mini. I'm now at the stage where I wouldn't mind a little hint here and there to refresh my memory. Does Voiceover provide such a thing? Otherwise, I can keep looking things up in VO help. I would love some contextual hints, though, if possible. (For instance, opening a message in Mail; split-tap doesn't seem to work for some reason.) Etc. Thanks, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: macbook pro and iphone with itunes
Hi Denise, You'll find an option under the iTunes store pull down menu to authorize your MBP. Once this is done you can use the context menu for your iPhone (vo-shift-m) and select transfer purchases. Best regards. Geoff On Nov 12, 2010, at 8:46 AM, denise avant wrote: hello all, i have connected my iphone to my macbook pro. i have an account, and have done a sync of my iphone. however, i have not located my apps under the list of apps. how do i get itunes in mac to list my previously purchased and downloaded apps from my windows days? thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Getting additional information from the Airport status menu
Hello Ray, I have both menu and menu item verbosity set to high. When I arrow to the airport extra menu without simultaneously pressing option vo reports seven items. When I press option-rightArrow to reach this menu, the number of items doubles and there is indeed additional data shown. I do not need to hold down the VO keys once I'm in the status menus as was suggested earlier. HTH. Geoff This doubles when I do and in fact there is additional On Nov 11, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Well, I went in to the universal access menu, then, holding down the option key, I arrowed right till I got to the airport menu. I didn't see any of that stuff. Was I supposed to do anything else or differently? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! Skype Name: barefootedray On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Scott Granados wrote: This seems to work well. You get the transmition type and some speed data. Cool Thanks! On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:37 AM, Esther wrote: Hi Geoff, You wrote in another thread on WiFi stability: begin quote As you probably discovered from ascertaining the ip address, under system prefferences - network, there's a box labeled Show AirPort status in menu bar. When checked, you can see information by either via trackpad commander by double tapping the top with two fingers and locating airport a little right of center near the top, or via the keyboard by pressing vo-m-m and vo-arrow to thae airport menu (yet another illistration why I almost always use trackpad commander, but I digress). Anyway, I read documentation indicating that one can press option-click in order to expose a menu that shows information such as throughput and channel number. I tried routing the mouse pointer, disabling trackpad commander and pressing option-click, however it only brought focus to the application. Perhaps there's another way to simulate an option-click in vo so as to expose this menu? end quote Like many things, this is in the archives smile. See Barry Hadder's tip on extra status menus in SL, which I've pasted in below. http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg08864.html I found an interesting way to get extra airport status information. I wanted to post this because I believe that it is new to sl. Open the status menu with vo-m twice. Hold down the option key as you left or right arrow over the airport menu icon. Now release the option key and arrow down through the menu. This can be done on many of the other menus such as volume, mobileme, etc. In fact, this was not new to Snow Leopard; it also works in Leopard, but is a neat feature. And you can navigate to the status menu bar any way you like, but you should have the Option key pressed before you right or left arrow to the AirPort status menu if you want the additional information displayed. Let us know whether this works for you. Cheers, Esther -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
