Re: [MBZ] parking/driving/fog lights
No conspiracy; it was just the typical misunderstood statistical study. The original only attempted to determine the efficacy of DRL at dusk, which in the Nordic countries happens for a greater proportion of the day than it does here far below the artic circle, and probably a fair bit more than the more populous areas of Canada. Of course our wonderful politicians, particularly those who view the populace as a set of problems that need to be managed, were quick to require them by law so that they can send letters to all of their constituents explaining how they're making their lives better and safer. YMMV. ...Kevin Jeff Zedic said: We have had the DRLs here in Canada since 1994. The reasoning at the time was a satudy doe in Sweden that showed a 50% or higher drop in the chance of being in a collision with your headlights on. This wasn't some conspiracy with the bulb manufacturers Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [MBZ] parking/driving/fog lights
Yes, this would also explain the Army's experiments with fitting a row of bright lights on top of desert tanks to make them more visible to the enemy.. ...Kevin ernest breakfield said: while traveling in the Deserts, it's clear that vehicles with headlights on are much more visible even/especially on the brightest of days. it's a recommended practice at many parks in the Deserts. cheers! e Levi Smith wrote: However, if the sun is out and the day is quite clear and I'm on a divided highway I don't have much doubt that the headlights aren't going to make much difference. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners
I liked the pair of 100watters on my old truck, had them aimed right at the windshield of oncoming cars to cross at 100ft, when the Bimmer drivers (who all seem to like to leave the aux lights on all the time, aimed too high) got a shot of those they felt my pain. Those lights would throw a tightly focused beam at least a mile on the beach. --R (oops, my bad) David Brodbeck wrote: Many fog lights are quite bright indeed; my J.C. Whitney catalog lists 55 watt models, which makes them as bright as a standard low-beam headlamp. I think having 220 watts of lights on is an excessive amount of glare if your goal is simply to make yourself visible.
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
ernest breakfield wrote: daytime use of running lights (what you and many Amerikuns call parking lights I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you would be a bit more circumspect. Roger Ellingson/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] W126 300SD power seats almost done!
Hi, Dennis. I didn't realize you were referring to the color of the seat and not the color code on the wiring! DUH! My dad says that he can't distinguish the color of the new seats with the old ones, and this was with the old passenger's seat still in place. Noone else has looked at the seats since we started the job. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners
To make matters worse, some of these lights are tinted blue, which creates even more scattering and glare than a normal headlamp. Funny you should talk about glarethose DOT lamps are such total shitthe other day I was sitting in traffic and compred the beam pattern from my 124 Euro lights to the latest POS Merikan car next to me..I have this nice cutoff in the beam pattern and the USDOT lamp is a big smear all over tha back of the vehicle in front. I think that THIS beam pattern, as well as a lack of proper aiming, is the reason for the dazzle . My step father can no longer drive at night because there's so much glare from other people's headlights, that he can't see anything. He's 74. It's not just the riced out boy racers. Everyone has their stupid fog/driving amps on 24/7 and they STILL can't see what they're doing. I know that I don't have any glare problems when I'm driving at night in the UK. I still wonder why the USDOT wants us all to be blind at night! I think they've based their syandard on some 50 year old nonsense..AGAIN! Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners
Jeff Zedic wrote: I know that I don't have any glare problems when I'm driving at night in the UK. I still wonder why the USDOT wants us all to be blind at night! I think they've based their syandard on some 50 year old nonsense..AGAIN! That's pretty much it. They claim the European pattern is not optimal for the U.S. because it doesn't throw enough light upward to light overhead freeway signs. I suspect European highways have overhead signs as well, though, and they don't seem to have any problems. Mostly I suspect it's bureaucratic inertia. The problem has in some ways gotten worse since they started allowing aero headlights. At least with the old sealed-beams you knew what you were getting. Now beam patterns are all over the map, with some cars having acceptable ones and others being abysmal. (All of them meet the letter of the rather loose DOT specification, of course.) Now they're collecting glare complains about HID lights, with the idea they might have to do something to about those. I suspect the problem could be solved with a decent beam pattern, but I don't know if they're seriously examining that option or not.
Re: [MBZ] HID beam patterns
Now they're collecting glare complains about HID lights, with the idea they might have to do something to about those. I suspect the problem could be solved with a decent beam pattern, but I don't know if they're seriously examining that option or not. The HID headlights in my car (Bi-Xenons) have precisely the same beam pattern as any Euro headlight. And every single German car I've owned (12) has had Euro lights so I'm quite familiar with them. Except my two Beetles and two KGs. I think the worst lights for beam control are Ford trucks and Saturns. RLE
Re: [MBZ] HID beam patterns
The HID headlamps bother me even in the daytime, and especially off-axis. I see them as very purple, and they are demon bright -- enough that I have to look away even in daylight. I'm bothered by cars in the daylight on the other side of a divided highway, for instance. I suspect the real solution is to filter off the near-uv emission (the high blue end) that extends beyond the typical human vision range. Some of us see that, and the output on those lamps is very very bright in the blue and near-uv range. Beam pattern is secondary, unless they are the old single beam type, where they are indeed high beam only. The Euro MB pattern is really cool -- the beam sweeps away from the opposing traffic dramatically, easily visible on a garage wall. That helps, Peter
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
I prefer the term Merkins, myself. On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you would be a bit more circumspect. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Differences between '82 and 84-85 OM617s?
Not sure if anyone's mentioned it yet, but the '85 Cal-spec OM617 sitting in my garage (waiting for a vehicle) has a completely different intake and exhaust manifold setup, so the downpipe would need to be modified, if run in an earlier vehicle (or just swap over all those parts from the early car). Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
[MBZ] Don's cars, was Class system
Nope - still have it. My wife didn't want to sell it, and found $$ to pay for the heat pump. The PBU was working for several weeks, then decided to do it's own thing again - sometimes cold, sometimes hot - will turn it's self on after you've pushed the off button, etc. I've re-soldered the PBU once already, but the fix didn't last all that long. I bought another one from you, that I'm going to re solder, treat the switches with deoxit, etc. before installing. This time I'm going to remove the old solder and replace with new instead of just melting the old like I did last time. I will be selling the SLC once I get the interior put together a bit more - I have just too many cars now, it's not quite as much fun to drive as I remembered, and it burns gasoline. I need to make room for the 190D 5 speed that I'll find someday I'll be up this Sunday to get those wheels --- On 11/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have not sold it yet? What sort if intermittant ACC problem are you having? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Another divided Enzo
Ouch. Seems those Enzo's always split in half when encountering trees and the such - wonder if that's a design feature? Gets the engine away from the passengers? Not that it did him much good --- On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.kommersant.com/p725048/Suleiman_Kerimov/ ___ -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Another divided Enzo
In related news, Carrera GT meets telephone pole in NY: http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31654 Tom
Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners
David, David Brodbeck wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: back to the point; since fog lights are additional light sources and aimed lower than headlights, fogs shouldn't cause any more dazzle, and use of them does help increase conspicuity (especially those of a different color). Regardless of where they're aimed, they still represent two more white-hot bulb filaments, which oncoming drivers have to look at. actually, any *decent* light has a shield that prevents you from seeing the filament, and (again, assuming a quality lamp) the light emanating from that lamp should be controlled such that the light is cast onto the ground. no driver should never be able to see the filament. any decent Fog Lamp has a beam pattern that's already even shorter and lower than the Low Beam and should make it even less of an issue than even the standard Low Beams. of course, more simply, just don't look at the silly things!;-p That was my point. Many fog lights are quite bright indeed; my J.C. Whitney catalog lists 55 watt models, which makes them as bright as a standard low-beam headlamp. heh, this may be one of the reasons for our different perspectives; i confess i wouldn't expect that anything out of a JC Sh*tney catalog could qualify as an example of a quality lamp.;-) I think having 220 watts of lights on is an excessive amount of glare if your goal is simply to make yourself visible. Even if they're aimed properly, the bulbs still create a very bright sight picture for oncoming drivers. let's clarify again; the key is the beam pattern, not the wattage. i've got more light wattage running full-time from larger (6.25 dia.) lamps on my motorcycle, and they're aimed so they're not an issue to oncoming traffic. sadly it's still not enough to keep people from not seeing me. i've also run significantly hotter bulbs in H4 lamps and they cast much less glare than low/stock quality DOT 35W low beams. decent quality lamps cast their light towards the ground (where it's supposed to be), and wouldn't be found objectionable by any standard i would consider reasonable. i would wholeheartedly agree that there are far too many poor-quailty lamps out there on vehicles of all makes and price points, but the issue isn't the power, it's the beam pattern control. While this isn't going to blind anyone during the day, it's unnecessary, and the same person will probably run them constantly at night as well, where it's much more troublesome. conjecture and/or already addressed; no further comment. To make matters worse, some of these lights are tinted blue, which creates even more scattering and glare than a normal headlamp. i completely agree; the misguided perception that blue lights are somehow better seems to be related to the advent of the early HIDs, which were imitated with cheap copies that pushed the blue tint as somehow being more effective, or in too many cases, just a matter of style. it would appear many of the people using these don't know/care that the blue light emanating from their lamps may give them the impression of being brighter, but in actuality probably impairs their visual acuity. (doesn't anyone remember how Blue-Blocker sunglasses would help improve detail? now people are paying extra to accessorize their vehicles with blue light... does anyone else find this odd?) Actually, that's exactly what you said: you wrote: I believe this is because it could cause confusion about whether your car is in motion or parked. did you mean to say something other than what you actually wrote? please feel free to clarify. You're taking me out of context. That was part of a discussion about why some states have laws prohibiting such things. But you seem more interested in finding nits to pick than in debating the actual topic at hand. you might need to go back and look at what you sent; you posted that in the context of: states where it's illegal to drive with only your parking lights on..., which you later said: I didn't say *I* believed people might be confused by them. I said I thought that was the rationale behind the law. what you posted seemed to be exactly what you later said you didn't say; that's why i invited you to clarify your apparent contradiction. clarification with the intent of better understand each other isn't usually a big deal for most people i deal with in a rational discussion. i was just trying to have a conversation on a topic of mutual interest; yet somehow you seem to find my paying attention to what you actually said and asking for clarification to avoid misunderstanding as justification for your being rude. frankly, it would appear you're incapable and/or disinterested in having the sort of discussion i'd hoped. your manner has made it much less likely i'd be interested in paying attention to you any longer, so we
[MBZ] 1987 300SDL FOR SALE
All, I am putting my car up for sale. The details are listed below, including information from the data card along with my own personal notes: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300SDL VIN: WDBCB25D8HA329743 Mileage: 249,340 Paint Code: 623 [Light Ivory] Interior Code: 273 [Brazil] Additional Options: 412 [electric sliding roof with tilting device] 446 [Info Not Available] 461 [instrument with mileage reading and English lettering] 491 [US version] 506 [outside rear view mirror, left and right, heated (right electrically adjustable)] 519 [radio Mexico Grand Prix, electronic (U.S.A.)] 524 [paint coat preservation] 531 [automatic antenna] 543 [sun visor with vanity mirror, illuminated] 551 [anti-theft warning system] 588 [code 581 and 584] 581 [automatic climate control] 584 [electric window lifters (front and rear doors)] 592 [heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane, band filter] 600 [headlamp wiper/washer] 611 [courtesy lamps for front and rear doors] 639 [code 634 and 636] 634 [elimination of first aid box] 636 [elimination of warning triangle] 640 [15-hole light alloy rims] 673 [high-capacity battery] 227 [ashtray and cigar lighter in the rear, illuminated] 240 [outside temperature indicator] 241 [left front seat electrically adjustable with memory feature] 242 [right front seat electrically adjustable with memory feature] 807 [change of model year, the last figure shows the new model year] 877 [reading lamp in the rear] I bought the car as a second owner in March of 2003 with 180,126 miles from Classic Performance Auto in Raleigh, NC. The original owner purchased the car in New Bern, NC and the car has been in North Carolina ever since. Since then, it has been meticulously cared for under my supervision and exclusively repaired at Classic Performance Auto by the same mechanic. As some of you may remember, back in December of 2004, the car suffered from a blown head gasket and a cracked cylinder head. The cylinder head was replaced with a newer version purchased from Potomac German Auto. Once the cylinder head arrived, it was sent out to be lightly machined, tested, magnafluxed, etc. Once the head was prepared and deemed to be in satisfactory condition, the work was done by Classic Performance Auto. Since then, the car has performed flawlessly with the newer version cylinder head. Around February of 2005, the car was involved in a low speed accident in a shopping center. The Mazda MPV, driven by an underinsured Mexican immigrant, struck the front passenger side of the car at roughly 15MPH. All of the resulting damage was localized to the section before the front tire on the passenger side. The SDL sustained minimal damage, with no damage to the inside of the engine compartment, hood or uni-body. Damaged parts included the passenger side headlight, front bumper, and front passenger side fender. With all of the parts assessed at dealer prices and labor rates estimated at top dollar, the car was deemed a loss by the insurance company. The car was fixed immediately following the accident and has performed flawlessly ever since. As far as maintenance is concerned, every oil change has been done in 3000 mile intervals and only Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15W-40 has been used (with no snake oil additives). The coolant, air filter, transmission filter, main fuel filter, inline fuel filter, brake fluid, power steering fluid, power steering filter have all been changed at regular intervals using German products and lubricants when available. This includes exclusive use of Mercedes, Knecht, Mann and Heingst products. The following maintenance tasks have been performed recently: fuel filter change (main and inline), transmission filter change and fill, power steering filter change and fill (with ATF as specified in the book), brake system flush and bleeding, new thermostat, coolant flush and fill, 6 new glow plugs. As far as the mechanical qualities of the car, the engine is a solid performing 603 motor with no problems at all. The EGR valve has been blocked by a custom made metal plate and both ARV valves have been disconnected from the vacuum circuit using a Mercedes 2-way vacuum fitting; a common performance modification among Mercedes diesel enthusiasts. Of course, the trap oxidizer was long gone before I purchased the car. The engine uses no oil as the oil level stays the same for the duration 3000 miles. The engine leaks no oil except a slight seepage of oil from the bottom seal of the injection pump. The transmission is in great shape and shifts flawlessly. The transmission does not leak any fluid and the filter has been changed at regular intervals. The kick down switch function works perfect as well. The shifter linkage bushings were recently changed to provide a firm shift of the gear selector lever. Aesthetically, the car is in great shape. Being a 'North Carolina native' the car has no rust whatsoever. The paint is original and in great shape for its age, as I
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
hi Roger! if you think i can't make fun of a group that we're a part of, then we have very different senses of humor, and/or you're too easily offended/demeaned, and/or you don't understand the freedoms of expression and the right to not necessarily blindly agree with government that our (arguably great) country was founded on. aside from that, it *certainly* isn't that big a deal. i don't believe the fact that i've been here (and on the previous incarnation of this list) for years (whether you've noticed or not) doesn't really have any bearing on the matter. i guess you can (and perhaps will) feel insulted and demeaned if you choose to, but it's not meant that way. regardless, i honor, respect and support your right to do so, as much as my right to make fun of myself.;-) cheers! e '85 300D Berkeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: daytime use of running lights (what you and many Amerikuns call parking lights I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you would be a bit more circumspect. Roger Ellingson/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL FOR SALE
Asking $3,500. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tarek Elshenawy Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:37 PM To: 'Banned List'; 'Mercedes Discussion List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL FOR SALE All, I am putting my car up for sale. The details are listed below, including information from the data card along with my own personal notes: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300SDL VIN: WDBCB25D8HA329743 Mileage: 249,340 Paint Code: 623 [Light Ivory] Interior Code: 273 [Brazil] Additional Options: 412 [electric sliding roof with tilting device] 446 [Info Not Available] 461 [instrument with mileage reading and English lettering] 491 [US version] 506 [outside rear view mirror, left and right, heated (right electrically adjustable)] 519 [radio Mexico Grand Prix, electronic (U.S.A.)] 524 [paint coat preservation] 531 [automatic antenna] 543 [sun visor with vanity mirror, illuminated] 551 [anti-theft warning system] 588 [code 581 and 584] 581 [automatic climate control] 584 [electric window lifters (front and rear doors)] 592 [heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane, band filter] 600 [headlamp wiper/washer] 611 [courtesy lamps for front and rear doors] 639 [code 634 and 636] 634 [elimination of first aid box] 636 [elimination of warning triangle] 640 [15-hole light alloy rims] 673 [high-capacity battery] 227 [ashtray and cigar lighter in the rear, illuminated] 240 [outside temperature indicator] 241 [left front seat electrically adjustable with memory feature] 242 [right front seat electrically adjustable with memory feature] 807 [change of model year, the last figure shows the new model year] 877 [reading lamp in the rear] I bought the car as a second owner in March of 2003 with 180,126 miles from Classic Performance Auto in Raleigh, NC. The original owner purchased the car in New Bern, NC and the car has been in North Carolina ever since. Since then, it has been meticulously cared for under my supervision and exclusively repaired at Classic Performance Auto by the same mechanic. As some of you may remember, back in December of 2004, the car suffered from a blown head gasket and a cracked cylinder head. The cylinder head was replaced with a newer version purchased from Potomac German Auto. Once the cylinder head arrived, it was sent out to be lightly machined, tested, magnafluxed, etc. Once the head was prepared and deemed to be in satisfactory condition, the work was done by Classic Performance Auto. Since then, the car has performed flawlessly with the newer version cylinder head. Around February of 2005, the car was involved in a low speed accident in a shopping center. The Mazda MPV, driven by an underinsured Mexican immigrant, struck the front passenger side of the car at roughly 15MPH. All of the resulting damage was localized to the section before the front tire on the passenger side. The SDL sustained minimal damage, with no damage to the inside of the engine compartment, hood or uni-body. Damaged parts included the passenger side headlight, front bumper, and front passenger side fender. With all of the parts assessed at dealer prices and labor rates estimated at top dollar, the car was deemed a loss by the insurance company. The car was fixed immediately following the accident and has performed flawlessly ever since. As far as maintenance is concerned, every oil change has been done in 3000 mile intervals and only Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15W-40 has been used (with no snake oil additives). The coolant, air filter, transmission filter, main fuel filter, inline fuel filter, brake fluid, power steering fluid, power steering filter have all been changed at regular intervals using German products and lubricants when available. This includes exclusive use of Mercedes, Knecht, Mann and Heingst products. The following maintenance tasks have been performed recently: fuel filter change (main and inline), transmission filter change and fill, power steering filter change and fill (with ATF as specified in the book), brake system flush and bleeding, new thermostat, coolant flush and fill, 6 new glow plugs. As far as the mechanical qualities of the car, the engine is a solid performing 603 motor with no problems at all. The EGR valve has been blocked by a custom made metal plate and both ARV valves have been disconnected from the vacuum circuit using a Mercedes 2-way vacuum fitting; a common performance modification among Mercedes diesel enthusiasts. Of course, the trap oxidizer was long gone before I purchased the car. The engine uses no oil as the oil level stays the same for the duration 3000 miles. The engine leaks no oil except a slight seepage of oil from the bottom seal of the injection pump. The transmission is in great shape and shifts flawlessly. The transmission does not leak any fluid and the filter has been changed at regular intervals. The kick down switch function works perfect as well. The
Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners
of course, more simply, just don't look at the silly things! That is difficult to do, and half of the definition of 'glare' is the reduction in contrast of the _entire_ visual field due to scatter in the optics. (That would be your eye, and the windshield.) Dodge trucks and Subarus have the worst always-on fog lights IMHO. They're like baby high beams. I hate having anybody have headlights on until you can actually see the road better with them than without. That would be much later than most turn them on. Once there are headlights on in the area, things like pedestrians, deer, and dogs become almost invisible, yet I can barely see the effect of my lights on the ground. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Don's cars, was Class system
switches with deoxit, etc. before installing. This time I'm going to remove the old solder and replace with new instead of just melting the old like I did last time. If you didn't add any new solder during the resoldering, you didn't do it right. It's not so much the new solder that helps, it's the new flux you get with it. Reheating old crystalline oxidized joints is an exercise in futility. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Trim adhesive
1. What is the proper adhesive to use to replace these pieces? I've tried weatherstrip adhesive, and Shoe Goo. Not very good results over time with either. 3. Is it real wood? Yes. 4. If I get lazy and don't re-apply these pieces, is there a market for them? Only if they're not cracked, and if you also remove the aluminum backing from the dash and send it along too. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] parking/driving/fog lights
Since about 1993 we have had a law in Oz that motorbikes have to have their headlights wired to come on when the ignition is turned on. Since the mid-70's in the States. I know I got stopped by the cops in high school in about '77 or '78, on my '73 Honda that didn't have it wired on automatically. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Don's cars, was Class system
Ah, so now he tells me... On 11/27/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you didn't add any new solder during the resoldering, you didn't do it right. It's not so much the new solder that helps, it's the new flux you get with it. Reheating old crystalline oxidized joints is an exercise in futility. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Funny boo boo among MB owners
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I disagree. I think headlights should be left on at all times, as it helps other drivers see your car even in daylight, preventing people from pulling out too early, etc. Headlights are not bright enough to cause visibility problems for other drivers unless it is dark enough that they are needed anyways. When I buy a car that isn't wired to leave the headlights on at all times when the ignition is on, I wire up a relay so that they are. High quality optics, such as in the Hella H4 2D1 bulbs on my 240D do not glare in other drivers eyes, but they improve the visibility of the vehicle. If you can't see pedestrians, deer, and dogs over other drivers lights perhaps you should buy a set of H4s as well... Tyler On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:14 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: That is difficult to do, and half of the definition of 'glare' is the reduction in contrast of the _entire_ visual field due to scatter in the optics. (That would be your eye, and the windshield.) Dodge trucks and Subarus have the worst always-on fog lights IMHO. They're like baby high beams. I hate having anybody have headlights on until you can actually see the road better with them than without. That would be much later than most turn them on. Once there are headlights on in the area, things like pedestrians, deer, and dogs become almost invisible, yet I can barely see the effect of my lights on the ground. -- Jim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFa6yBt178NxI/higRApoWAKCU1AXlnjiQBCBj9j5uEdcAQjk8KgCeKFIH w5WtYlS1IAjr0HZC+9FVN8Y= =tGn8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [MBZ] Don's cars, was Class system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Actually, if any significant amount of old solder is left, you didn't do it right. The old solder should be removed with a solder wick or vacuum (both available at radio shack) and replaced entirely. I would also use a small amount of non-corrosive liquid flux in addition to brand new flux core solder for a good connection that will last at least as long again as the factory one did. Tyler On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:15 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: If you didn't add any new solder during the resoldering, you didn't do it right. It's not so much the new solder that helps, it's the new flux you get with it. Reheating old crystalline oxidized joints is an exercise in futility. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFa61Jt178NxI/higRAqPiAJsHG+/E6yZ5ktiTt78/4XgCVc0DwACeJkty tPFPTFLV+JcoyszEpAbYGVk= =qC01 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: daytime use of running lights (what you and many Amerikuns call parking lights I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you would be a bit more circumspect. I think it is entirely appropriate to poke fun at the folks in the USA that think they alone are Americans. What about Canada? And Mexico? They are both even in _North_ America. What about all of central and south America? They should all qualify for the term American just as much as people from Japan, China, Korea, etc. can all be called Asian. America is a _continent_ not a country!! So if Ernest uses self-imposed miss-label in a less than flattering fasion, I think it is eminently suitable. -- Philip, a proud patriot of the USA
Re: [MBZ] Another divided Enzo
OK Don wrote: Ouch. Seems those Enzo's always split in half when encountering trees and the such - wonder if that's a design feature? Gets the engine away from the passengers? Not that it did him much good --- I suspect they're following the same design theory as Indy and F1 cars. The idea is to put the driver in a very strong pod, then design the car so that all the other pieces will fly off and dissipate energy in an accident. It's pretty common to see racing accidents involving those cars where the whole back half of the car will come off and the engine will go cartwheeling down the course, but the driver will be relatively uninjured.
Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist
Gents, Two a week ago i had addressed to the mercedeslist.com forum a very simple question about a problem with the Ke-jetronic system in my W124/300E - 91 and received a very small feedback, near nothing. Maybe i'm asking at the wrong place - never knows, but i would like to ask to this gentlemen maillist subscribers if anybody knows a specific maillist about Bosch Ke-jetronic ignition systems, where maybe i can get some help to get rid off the ignition issues i'm facing with this car. Thank you all, RSalles Original message: Hello, My 300E/91 has a very strange problem, after a month or so coming back from the indy: a) Cold or warm, the rpm rises to 1300/1400 rpm by 12 sec., and after that the rpm returns to normal cycle (750rpm). b) Un-pluging a two-wire connector at the idle control valve this symptom stops: no high rpm is observed when the motor is warm. c) Is the auxiliary air valve different than the idle air control valve, or two different names for the same part number? d) Where could the fault be: 1- In a thermo-time switch (must be replaced to be sure?) Where exactly is it in the M103? 2- The fault could be in the ECU? How can it be tested only for this problem? Too many questions, and too basic also, but a really DIY'fer must start with something :) A helping hand would be very appreciated, mostly by the lack of Indy's around my town. TIA, RSalles
Re: [MBZ] Don's cars, was Class system
Yup - I can attest to the accuracy of that statement! I've un-earthed my trusty Paladin solder sucker - will attack the PBU soon! If you didn't add any new solder during the resoldering, you didn't do it right. It's not so much the new solder that helps, it's the new flux you get with it. Reheating old crystalline oxidized joints is an exercise in futility. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
Yeah Phillip.What you said. Mike New York - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: daytime use of running lights (what you and many Amerikuns call parking lights I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you would be a bit more circumspect. I think it is entirely appropriate to poke fun at the folks in the USA that think they alone are Americans. What about Canada? And Mexico? They are both even in _North_ America. What about all of central and south America? They should all qualify for the term American just as much as people from Japan, China, Korea, etc. can all be called Asian. America is a _continent_ not a country!! So if Ernest uses self-imposed miss-label in a less than flattering fasion, I think it is eminently suitable. -- Philip, a proud patriot of the USA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clutch shudder
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:44:09 -0600 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will also need to have the flywheel resurfaced flat. And the dimension 'a' adjusted to spec. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL FOR SALE
That's a pretty good price for your SDL! I've got just over a third of that (roughly 1600) into my '83 300SD, and I anticipate putting a few hundred more into it for shocks and brakes. i'm sure it will need guide rod bushings or a ball joint or two in time due to its odometer mileage. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Xenon
Beam pattern is secondary, unless they are the old single beam type, where they are indeed high beam only. The single beam types are of course low beam only. My '01's original low beam only lamps were updated to bi-xenons which requires a replacement of the entire lamp assembly at some cost but has proven to be money well spent. Your problems with these oncoming lights compels me to ask if you have been examined for early cataracts. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Xenon
Cataracts cause white fog glare, the Xenon lamps cause me to close my eyes in pain. It's hard to describe -- they are so bright they cause afterimage spots in the daytime for me. And for a young (25 years old) friend, also all three of my brothers. I do see bee violet as pale yellow, though -- bright spots on certain flowers -- so I suspect people who see more of the blue end of the spectrum than normal are blinded by those damned lights. Note that I see VERY bright purple/blue glare off axis from them, not white. At night I have to close my eyes, or at least squint, it's too painful to keep then open when a car with xenons goes past the other way. And believe me, I CAN tell -- I can spot a car with HID headlights more than a mile away. Aircraft landing lights aren't as bright! Peter
[MBZ] 300d FLYWHEEL
Does anyone have access to a loose 300D OM617 flywheel - I'm looking for the dimension 'a' amd the casting no at th eback . I have a casting no of 6170320001 with a 19.5 mm recess dimension 'a'. Not sure if its an original 300D flywheel or perhaps it's a M110 flywheel! PEter
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
I'm sure the last thing a Canadian wants to be called is an American. (We're the imperialistic scum of the earth, don't you know?) Those in Mexico just aim for US citizenship, and everyone south of that has their own country name. American is just a leftover common term no one else wanted, so we got t because it's easier that saying Citizen of the United States of America There are no Asians, Africans or Europeans that designate sovereign citizenship status of a particualr country. (No wonder we're considered such arrogant bastards) Austrailia is the obvious exception, of course. _ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=WLMTAG
Re: [MBZ] 300D 5-speed
I have seen these 5 speed transmissions, sometimes rebuilt ones, on ebay.de I would like to know if anyone has done a conversion. I'd love to have a 300D 2.5 5 speed. What fun. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k tom savage wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: what's the problem? Le probleme est elle est en France, alors. 300 euro pesos is a pretty nice price for something so desirable and unobtanium on this side of the pond. Tom With only one 5-speed ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL FOR SALE
Seems underpriced to me but then again, it has history that would scare away most potential buyers who don't know the value of these cars. On 11/28/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a pretty good price for your SDL! I've got just over a third of that (roughly 1600) into my '83 300SD, and I anticipate putting a few hundred more into it for shocks and brakes. i'm sure it will need guide rod bushings or a ball joint or two in time due to its odometer mileage. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist
The Bosch Fuel Injection and Enigine Management book by Probst (http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Fuel-Injection-Engine-Management/dp/0837603005/sr=8-1/qid=1164721835/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-4223530-6188429?ie=UTF8s=books) is good - and will help you understand what parts are for what. You will need the tools that David listed as well. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed?
I've noticed on a couple lists I'm on lately that tensions seem to be running high in the last week or so. I refer obviously to the headlight debacle that for once I'm going to stay completely out of except to say there are some pretty harsh posts there. Someday I hope to learn how to only ever post stuff I wouldn't mind somebody else saying to my mother... Someday. Did nobody else get enough turkey and good cheer? Curt - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 28 14:02:40 2006 Received: from smtp2.williams.com ([151.142.221.60]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp3Xk-0006K1-PI for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:02:40 + Received: from unknown (HELO wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM) ([172.31.6.11]) by smtp2.williams.com with ESMTP; 28 Nov 2006 07:59:46 -0600 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AQAAA+k= X-IronPort-AV: i=4.09,469,1157346000; d=scan'208; a=54982646:sNHT30249168 Received: from wmshoumb01.WILLIAMS.COM ([172.31.41.244]) by wmshoubh01.WILLIAMS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 28 Nov 2006 07:59:46 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 07:59:45 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist Thread-Index: AccSvUC9wtQ/IFLcQp++oWB9fxQbXgAN0w1g From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2006 13:59:46.0067 (UTC) FILETIME=[76142E30:01C712F5] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:02:41 - I would start my troubleshooting by making absolutely sure that all the vacuum leaks are fixed. This is the cause of hunting rpm 90 percent of the time. I just fixed this problem on my granddaughter's Taurus last weekend. I found a vacuum leak at the EGR valve rubber elbow. I would suggest a mechanic's stethoscope or WD-40 to find the leak. Don't forget the oil filler cap and the oil dipstick seals as sources of leaks. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist ... One really basic, but important, item to look for is false air. Any vacuum leak that lets air into the intake without going through the airflow meter will cause idle problems. Common culprits are the bellows at the ends of the intake pipe and the injector seals, but any of the vacuum hoses can cause problems.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed?
We had a great time here. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:57 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed? I've noticed on a couple lists I'm on lately that tensions seem to be running high in the last week or so. I refer obviously to the headlight debacle that for once I'm going to stay completely out of except to say there are some pretty harsh posts there. Someday I hope to learn how to only ever post stuff I wouldn't mind somebody else saying to my mother... Someday. Did nobody else get enough turkey and good cheer? Curt - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist
Along with Tom P's suggestions about finding/fixing vacuum leaks, make sure the ignition system is 100% perfect before tinkering with the settings on the injection system. Often people jump to the fuel delivery system when the ignition system is at fault. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist I would start my troubleshooting by making absolutely sure that all the vacuum leaks are fixed. This is the cause of hunting rpm 90 percent of the time. I just fixed this problem on my granddaughter's Taurus last weekend. I found a vacuum leak at the EGR valve rubber elbow. I would suggest a mechanic's stethoscope or WD-40 to find the leak. Don't forget the oil filler cap and the oil dipstick seals as sources of leaks. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist ... One really basic, but important, item to look for is false air. Any vacuum leak that lets air into the intake without going through the airflow meter will cause idle problems. Common culprits are the bellows at the ends of the intake pipe and the injector seals, but any of the vacuum hoses can cause problems. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.17/553 - Release Date: 11/27/2006
Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed?
Some people figure if someone has a different view than theirs it's either a personal attack on them or the person is stupid and wrong. These same people become bold when sitting at a key board interacting with people they will, most likely, never see face to face. I will enjoy the big pile of money I earned while I worked making 'lectricity so all y'all could enjoy your time with food, friends and family. Didn't get too much turkey initially, but I will enjoy the turkey tamales I made with the leftover bird. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:57 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed? I've noticed on a couple lists I'm on lately that tensions seem to be running high in the last week or so. I refer obviously to the headlight debacle that for once I'm going to stay completely out of except to say there are some pretty harsh posts there. Someday I hope to learn how to only ever post stuff I wouldn't mind somebody else saying to my mother... Someday. Did nobody else get enough turkey and good cheer? Curt - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed?
Thanks for the 'lectricity. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed? Some people figure if someone has a different view than theirs it's either a personal attack on them or the person is stupid and wrong. These same people become bold when sitting at a key board interacting with people they will, most likely, never see face to face. I will enjoy the big pile of money I earned while I worked making 'lectricity so all y'all could enjoy your time with food, friends and family. Didn't get too much turkey initially, but I will enjoy the turkey tamales I made with the leftover bird. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:57 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed? I've noticed on a couple lists I'm on lately that tensions seem to be running high in the last week or so. I refer obviously to the headlight debacle that for once I'm going to stay completely out of except to say there are some pretty harsh posts there. Someday I hope to learn how to only ever post stuff I wouldn't mind somebody else saying to my mother... Someday. Did nobody else get enough turkey and good cheer? Curt - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
A friend at work just bought the above car and wants to change the oil. The oil drain plug takes an allen(hex)wrench. He asked me what size it takes and I don't know. Anyone have the answer? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
A friend at work just bought the above car and wants to change the oil. The oil drain plug takes an allen(hex)wrench. He asked me what size it takes and I don't know. Anyone have the answer? I forget offhand. But these cars can have the oil sucked out the dipstick tube by a 'Topsider' or other similar doodad available at marine supply shops. Much less messy, though the cartridge oil filter is still a problem. (Unlike on the diesels.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist
the kids are all right here. vacuum, vacuum, vacuum. system gets old and leaky and messed up and makes the CIS-E go nuts. so with the ignition gone nuts, people start to look to the ignition for the solution. but it ain't the first place to look, but maybe the last place to look. slight vacuum problems can cause huge problems for CIS-E. It's a nice system, when it works, but isn't everything nice when it works? On 11/28/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Along with Tom P's suggestions about finding/fixing vacuum leaks, make sure the ignition system is 100% perfect before tinkering with the settings on the injection system. Often people jump to the fuel delivery system when the ignition system is at fault. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist I would start my troubleshooting by making absolutely sure that all the vacuum leaks are fixed. This is the cause of hunting rpm 90 percent of the time. I just fixed this problem on my granddaughter's Taurus last weekend. I found a vacuum leak at the EGR valve rubber elbow. I would suggest a mechanic's stethoscope or WD-40 to find the leak. Don't forget the oil filler cap and the oil dipstick seals as sources of leaks. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist ... One really basic, but important, item to look for is false air. Any vacuum leak that lets air into the intake without going through the airflow meter will cause idle problems. Common culprits are the bellows at the ends of the intake pipe and the injector seals, but any of the vacuum hoses can cause problems. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.17/553 - Release Date: 11/27/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] lights (was: Re: Funny boo boo among MB owners)
Jim Cathey wrote: of course, more simply, just don't look at the silly things! That is difficult to do, and half of the definition of 'glare' is the reduction in contrast of the _entire_ visual field due to scatter in the optics. (That would be your eye, and the windshield.) i don't find it difficult to look at the road instead of oncoming lights,... why would it be difficult? it's not like my eyes are drawn to overly bright lights. you touch on an interesting point, though; the windshield. i notice while most people will clean the bugs off of the outside, many people don't bother to keep both the outside and the *inside* as clean as it should be, and even non-smokers will find a build-up of glare-producing haze on the inside in surprisingly short order. obviously, it's worse for smokers... (maybe this is another reason i don't have the problems with this that some others seem to have; i keep both the screens i'm looking through and the lamps pretty clean.) Dodge trucks and Subarus have the worst always-on fog lights IMHO. They're like baby high beams. the Chevy and GMC trucks seem pretty awful as well, on 2 counts; their lamps seem to be more of a driving lamp pattern so i notice far too much glare off of them for what Fog Lights are supposed to do... also it seems they have a real problem keeping them working; a surprisingly high percentage of them on the road that have only one lamp lit. (more interesting is that most of the ads i see for them have those lamps completely disabled. apparently the advertising agency doesn't like the way they look on camera?!) I hate having anybody have headlights on until you can actually see the road better with them than without. That would be much later than most turn them on. Once there are headlights on in the area, things like pedestrians, deer, and dogs become almost invisible, yet I can barely see the effect of my lights on the ground. agreed; i'll use the running(/parking) lights in the cars until i can see the effect of headlights on the ground. (motorcycling is a different story.) cheers! e
[MBZ] OT Junkyard ECMs
I am in need of some computers and wiring harness from various cars to test my OBDII device. Unfortunately with all the other stuff in my life I have not had time to go to junk yard and get the parts myself. Does anyone know of a place to order the parts and have them shipped? Specifically I need: ECM from 1997-2002 Ford Tarus with wiring harness, especially OBDII connector. ECM from 1997 or newer GM vehicle with wiring harness, especially OBDII connector. ECM from 1997 or newer VW with wiring harness, especially OBDII connector. ECM and harness from one of these cars, http://64.78.43.239/can/vehicles.htm If anyone knows where I can order these ECMs or if someone on the list wants to sell them to me, please let me know. Trampas
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
I was quite surprised when a Mexican pointed out to me, Hey, we are Americans too! So if North and South Americans are Americans, then what are residents of the USA? USA-ers? USers? Users? (that would be Canadians with their pot law! - laugh! no flame!)...Seriously, aside from American, what specifically identifies a USA person? CM Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and many Amerikuns call parking lights I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you would be a bit more circumspect. I think it is entirely appropriate to poke fun at the folks in the USA that think they alone are Americans. What about Canada? And Mexico? They are both even in _North_ America. What about all of central and south America? They should all qualify for the term American just as much as people from Japan, China, Korea, etc. can all be called Asian. America is a _continent_ not a country!! So if Ernest uses self-imposed miss-label in a less than flattering fasion, I think it is eminently suitable. -- Philip, a proud patriot of the USA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 28 18:27:08 2006 Received: from web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.69.31]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp7fg-0003fz-GT for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:27:08 + Received: (qmail 78140 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Nov 2006 18:24:13 - X-YMail-OSG: DS9n_rUVM1lXN539IqQpG3OmS6MeA2uU.96_qeIjRDfzOeJco_3mpxzvscevppfcrQAq5faxkQPIFz9Leccxf5PJef5n8bfQfuWck2ozEbViYWLNWS61wUD_JCqkOxVhMHqKBfV8bIdnTE4- Received: from [24.123.111.98] by web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:24:13 PST Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:24:13 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:27:08 - can you just lower the turkey into the cooling towers for a quick-boiled turkey? CM Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people figure if someone has a different view than theirs it's either a personal attack on them or the person is stupid and wrong. These same people become bold when sitting at a key board interacting with people they will, most likely, never see face to face. I will enjoy the big pile of money I earned while I worked making 'lectricity so all y'all could enjoy your time with food, friends and family. Didn't get too much turkey initially, but I will enjoy the turkey tamales I made with the leftover bird. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:57 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Has anybody noticed? I've noticed on a couple lists I'm on lately that tensions seem to be running high in the last week or so. I refer obviously to the headlight debacle that for once I'm going to stay completely out of except to say there are some pretty harsh posts there. Someday I hope to learn how to only ever post stuff I wouldn't mind somebody else saying to my mother... Someday. Did nobody else get enough turkey and good cheer? Curt - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
Well I guess not knowing what to call himself would be a good way to tell.You set yourself up for that one...LOL US Citizen would be what I say. Mike - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS I was quite surprised when a Mexican pointed out to me, Hey, we are Americans too! So if North and South Americans are Americans, then what are residents of the USA? USA-ers? USers? Users? (that would be Canadians with their pot law! - laugh! no flame!)...Seriously, aside from American, what specifically identifies a USA person? CM Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and many Amerikuns call parking lights I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you would be a bit more circumspect. I think it is entirely appropriate to poke fun at the folks in the USA that think they alone are Americans. What about Canada? And Mexico? They are both even in _North_ America. What about all of central and south America? They should all qualify for the term American just as much as people from Japan, China, Korea, etc. can all be called Asian. America is a _continent_ not a country!! So if Ernest uses self-imposed miss-label in a less than flattering fasion, I think it is eminently suitable. -- Philip, a proud patriot of the USA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
Heh heh, I like Users...says it all. On 11/28/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if North and South Americans are Americans, then what are residents of the USA? USA-ers? USers? Users? (that would be Canadians with their pot law! - laugh! no flame!)...Seriously, aside from American, what specifically identifies a USA person? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist
OK Don wrote: The Bosch Fuel Injection and Enigine Management book by Probst (http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Fuel-Injection-Engine-Management/dp/0837603005/sr=8-1/qid=1164721835/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-4223530-6188429?ie=UTF8s=books) is good - and will help you understand what parts are for what. You will need the tools that David listed as well. That's an excellent book. This is actually a pretty simple fuel injection system, so don't let it intimidate you. I think the key things to remember are: 1. Do all the normal ignition tune up stuff before you try to troubleshoot the fuel injection. Spark plugs, wires, distributor cap. Also replace all the vacuum hoses if they're old and cracked. Make sure the valves are adjusted right if your engine doesn't have hydraulic valve lifters. 2. Test, *then* adjust. Never touch any adjustment without verifying the components are good, first. For example, trying to adjust the base mixture when the real problem is incorrect fuel pressure will only make the car run worse. When people get into trouble with K-Jetronic, it's usually because they try to compensate for some other problem by tweaking it a little. 3. If something really *is* off, don't be afraid to fix it. For example, if the book says the airflow sensor plate needs to be centered, and yours isn't, center it. Small stuff can make a big difference in the way this system runs, and almost all of the possible repairs are simple. Idle problems, in particular, often don't have any one cause. For example, I had an idle problem on my VW Cabriolet, and there was no one thing I did that fixed it. It gradually got better as I went through the whole system and set everything right. This can be kind of frustrating, but it's also satisfying when you finally get it. Very few indys work on K-Jet much anymore. With a little effort you'll probably have a better grasp of how it works than your mechanic does, and you'll save yourself a bundle on diagnostic fees.
Re: [MBZ] lights
ernest breakfield wrote: i don't find it difficult to look at the road instead of oncoming lights,... why would it be difficult? it's not like my eyes are drawn to overly bright lights. I find it helps to deliberately look towards the right shoulder when going past cars with HID lamps, fog lamps, or their high-beams on, at night. It helps to avoid those afterimage spots. Still haven't found a good solution for SUVs tailgating me, though. Someone needs to invent an *outside* rear view mirror that's dimmable. you touch on an interesting point, though; the windshield. i notice while most people will clean the bugs off of the outside, many people don't bother to keep both the outside and the *inside* as clean as it should be, and even non-smokers will find a build-up of glare-producing haze on the inside in surprisingly short order. obviously, it's worse for smokers... (maybe this is another reason i don't have the problems with this that some others seem to have; i keep both the screens i'm looking through and the lamps pretty clean.) After a while stone pings and windshield wiper scratches become a problem, too. Not much help for those except a new windshield.
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
It's true that US Americans are, on the average, ignorant of anything beyond the USA. But that is mostly due to our geography. I drove 17 hours from Kansas City to Greeneville, SC. There are regional differences, but pretty much the same. 897 miles...1,440 km. Now Barcelona, Spain to Prague, Czech Republic is 1,679 km. Not sure the route...but probably, Spain, France, Germany, Czech Republic...maybe through Switzerland if a southern route is taken. In Switzerland alone 4 languages are spoke (German, French, Italian, Romansch)...Europeans are forced to think beyond their borders. We are not. I firmly believe (OK, here is where I will get banned for being a Nazi - FYI I am NOT A NAZI) that different peoples IN GENERAL have different characteristics and national qualities. Americans are FRIENDLY - probably the friendliest people in the world (some Euros interpret this as insincerity) and Americans are also very can-do people...positive, DIY, independent (sometimes to a fault). Germans have described this as the ability to cut through paperwork. Well, my 2 cents. Chris (who is so non-American, I only take a shower once a week. My German penpals found that to be totally normal) dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q) what specifically identifies a USA person? A) Ignorance and disinterest of anything and anyplace outside of the USA. -Dave Walton On 11/28/06, Christopher McCann wrote: I was quite surprised when a Mexican pointed out to me, Hey, we are Americans too! So if North and South Americans are Americans, then what are residents of the USA? USA-ers? USers? Users? (that would be Canadians with their pot law! - laugh! no flame!)...Seriously, aside from American, what specifically identifies a USA person? CM Fmiser wrote: rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and many Amerikuns call parking lights I find your continued use of the term Amerikuns insulting and demeaning. You may think it's oh-so-trendy looking down at the common herd but I find it a bit much. I would think that as a newish contributor to this list, you would be a bit more circumspect. I think it is entirely appropriate to poke fun at the folks in the USA that think they alone are Americans. What about Canada? And Mexico? They are both even in _North_ America. What about all of central and south America? They should all qualify for the term American just as much as people from Japan, China, Korea, etc. can all be called Asian. America is a _continent_ not a country!! So if Ernest uses self-imposed miss-label in a less than flattering fasion, I think it is eminently suitable. -- Philip, a proud patriot of the USA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 28 20:23:09 2006 Received: from noodle.rightsock.com ([69.36.241.36] helo=mordred.punk.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gp9Tw-gD-PK for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:23:08 + Received: from mordred.punk.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mordred.punk.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id kASKK47Z077728 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mordred.punk.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id kASKK4Zf077727 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kevin) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:20:04 -0800 From:
Re: [MBZ] SLS suspension fluid substitutes
Yeah, good idea! There's one of them on every corner!Isn't Citroen the stuff they put in fruitcake to make it taste bad? At 04:10 PM 11/25/2006, you wrote: There's a Pentosin substitue but I can't be exact on the number of it. You can definitely get the correct stuff from your local Citroen dealer though. The SLS is licenced by MB from them. Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
In my case this is complicated a little by the fact that my glasses have a bit of a chromic aberration -- bright blue objects aren't focused to the same point as other colors, causing them to have an out-of-focus 'halo' around them. I hope you are working with an Opthalmologist on this and not an Optometrist. I have just gone through this recently with my new lenses. The first try produced just about what you describe and so my Doc re-examined me and modified the prescription a bit and the night vision problem is gone. No more halos or that out-of-focus feeling. RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] Tension? Naaah.
Someday I hope to learn how to only ever post stuff I wouldn't mind somebody else saying to my mother... Someday. If she drives an elderly diesel MB, frets about her ALDA, oil leaks, flex disks, driveshaft bearings, CV joints and vacuum leaks, that might work. Otherwise, consider it all normal, more or less. RLE
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
As JimC noted, MBs are designed to have their oil removed by suction thru the dipstick tube. I read recently in a MB publication the MB engineers started designing this system in the mid 70s and it's perfected now - *all* the oil comes out thru the dipstick leaving none - as it is meant to. Good luck -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug A friend at work just bought the above car and wants to change the oil. The oil drain plug takes an allen(hex)wrench. He asked me what size it takes and I don't know. Anyone have the answer? I forget offhand. But these cars can have the oil sucked out the dipstick tube by a 'Topsider' or other similar doodad available at marine supply shops. Much less messy, though the cartridge oil filter is still a problem. (Unlike on the diesels.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/555 - Release Date: 11/27/2006
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
LarryT - except for cars with oil coolers, which don't drain back to the engine sump. Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug As JimC noted, MBs are designed to have their oil removed by suction thru the dipstick tube. I read recently in a MB publication the MB engineers started designing this system in the mid 70s and it's perfected now - *all* the oil comes out thru the dipstick leaving none - as it is meant to. Good luck -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug A friend at work just bought the above car and wants to change the oil. The oil drain plug takes an allen(hex)wrench. He asked me what size it takes and I don't know. Anyone have the answer? I forget offhand. But these cars can have the oil sucked out the dipstick tube by a 'Topsider' or other similar doodad available at marine supply shops. Much less messy, though the cartridge oil filter is still a problem. (Unlike on the diesels.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist
Yeah I'm working my way through the Probst book at the moment, however to test a jetronic system you need a fuel pressure test kit with two gauges to see the difference between the fuel pressures in the system. - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist OK Don wrote: The Bosch Fuel Injection and Enigine Management book by Probst (http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Fuel-Injection-Engine-Management/dp/0837603005/sr=8-1/qid=1164721835/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-4223530-6188429?ie=UTF8s=books) is good - and will help you understand what parts are for what. You will need the tools that David listed as well. That's an excellent book. This is actually a pretty simple fuel injection system, so don't let it intimidate you. I think the key things to remember are: 1. Do all the normal ignition tune up stuff before you try to troubleshoot the fuel injection. Spark plugs, wires, distributor cap. Also replace all the vacuum hoses if they're old and cracked. Make sure SNIPPED
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Thanks for all the replies concerning the oil sucker. My question asked what size allen wrench the oil drain plug requires. Does anyone have the answer? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Duff Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug Thanks for all the replies concerning the oil sucker. My question asked what size allen wrench the oil drain plug requires. Does anyone have the answer? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Alan, From all my experience on a variety of MB's, the Oil Drain Plug is a 13mm hex, not an Allen wrench. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 28, 2006, at 3:38 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy
[MBZ] OT Mazda RX7
My Brother is looking at a 1984 Mazda RX7 with 42K miles. It looks really nice. I know nothing about these cars. Does anyone have any experience with these. The car is on ebay. My brother does not do ANY maintenance, so if this requires constant tinkering it might not be the car for him. By the way, this is really just going to be a Sunday drive kind of car - not a daily driver. It will be in the garage most of the time. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you are working with an Opthalmologist on this and not an Optometrist. I have just gone through this recently with my new lenses. The first try produced just about what you describe and so my Doc re-examined me and modified the prescription a bit and the night vision problem is gone. No more halos or that out-of-focus feeling. I think my mistake was going to a chain store to have them made. I've not really been happy with the results, but getting another pair made is a significant expense so I've been putting up with them. I think part of the problem is just that they used a lens material I've never had before, and it seems to produce lenses with a much smaller sweet spot where things are really clear than I'm used to. The anti-glare coating was also a big mistake. I won't be talked into that again.
Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist
Hendrik Riessen wrote: Yeah I'm working my way through the Probst book at the moment, however to test a jetronic system you need a fuel pressure test kit with two gauges to see the difference between the fuel pressures in the system. Actually, one gauge and a valve will work. The valve lets you isolate the control pressure regulator from the system. Close it and you read system pressure, open it and you read control pressure. J.C. Whitney sells a CIS gauge set that has all the adapters you need. I'm generally pretty skeptical of J.C. Whitney stuff but this seems pretty well made (in the U.S.A., no less.) It even includes a bleed valve for purging air out of the gauge lines.
Re: [MBZ] Glasses
the real solution - buy frames from third-world countries (i got mine from india for $4) and have the most awesome lenses fit here. The price works out the same. $200 for a frame? you've GOT to be kidding. On 11/28/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you are working with an Opthalmologist on this and not an Optometrist. I have just gone through this recently with my new lenses. The first try produced just about what you describe and so my Doc re-examined me and modified the prescription a bit and the night vision problem is gone. No more halos or that out-of-focus feeling. I think my mistake was going to a chain store to have them made. I've not really been happy with the results, but getting another pair made is a significant expense so I've been putting up with them. I think part of the problem is just that they used a lens material I've never had before, and it seems to produce lenses with a much smaller sweet spot where things are really clear than I'm used to. The anti-glare coating was also a big mistake. I won't be talked into that again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] OT Mazda RX7
too old for a rotary engine - they have the habit of breaking a lot, and that was long before Mazda really got the wankel right. On 11/28/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Brother is looking at a 1984 Mazda RX7 with 42K miles. It looks really nice. I know nothing about these cars. Does anyone have any experience with these. The car is on ebay. My brother does not do ANY maintenance, so if this requires constant tinkering it might not be the car for him. By the way, this is really just going to be a Sunday drive kind of car - not a daily driver. It will be in the garage most of the time. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
The easier answer, is that you buy the set and crawl under with the strip of them and the ratchet. A set often does not cost a whole lot more than buying the couple you need. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug Alan, From all my experience on a variety of MB's, the Oil Drain Plug is a 13mm hex, not an Allen wrench. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 28, 2006, at 3:38 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another seat repair question
Have any of you folks given up on the spring box and gone to foam? The driver's side seat in my old 115 was a bit the worse for wear and I tore it apart last summer and rebuilt it somewhat. The springs seemed intact so I just changed out padding etc. I debated looking for a new horsehair pad (Rusty has them I think) but decided to follow some of the other examples seen on the net and do it myself. I used a leftover piece of carpet tied to the spring frame to protect the softer material and then added some of the fibrous material recommended on one of the net sites. It looks ok but I would say it is a bit hard. Probably no worse than the original setup but still hard on the rear at least in comparison to the bucket seats in my F150 Supercrew. Maybe I just need to add a bit more of the fibrous material as it has packed down a bit. However, I begin to wonder if the answer is to remove the metal springs and build a seat out of foam. I know the general belief around here seems to be to keep things pretty original. Anyone done it and prepared to admit it? Randy
Re: [MBZ] Mazda RX7
My Brother is looking at a 1984 Mazda RX7 with 42K miles. It looks really nice. Is this the same brother that is also buying a woody wagon? :-) I know nothing about these cars. Does anyone have any experience with these. I spun one once. It gripped tenaciously until it suddenly decided to let go. Others have reported them to be similarly unpredictable. Also, the Wankel engine really likes to rev. Driven at low revs, its a dog. Not my choice for a cruiser. It IS fun to drive--but having fun means lots of shifting and lots of engine noise. They are also notoriously inefficient with fuel. If he wants a cool-looking GT that's reliable and fun to drive, I'd suggest an old Toyota Celica Supra. Lots of torque, smooth and reliable. If he wants a sports car, I'd suggest a Toyota MR 2 or a Miata. The RX7, in my mind, was neither a GT, which to my mind means a flexible, torquey engine and a good combination between a comfortable ride and decent handling, nor a sports car, which to my mind means great agility and lots of road feel and an eager (if less powerful than GT-class) engine. -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
