Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
Smooth and powerful so far, yes... I'm impressed with how strong the engine is. Even at low speeds it seems to have lots of torque. Not sure about fuel consumption yet. Jaime On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: My experience with Onan says they are super smooth, very powerful, run pretty much forever and drink gas like it was still under a buck a gallon.lol. Is that true about this machine? Mike On Aug 10, 2013 8:36 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb wrote: Is it diesel? Nope. Twin cylinder Onan gasoline engine. Electric clutch for both front and rear PTO, two spool hydraulics, Techumseh transaxle, rock-shaft mounted 3-point hitch is an option. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Smooth and powerful so far, yes... I'm impressed with how strong the engine is. Even at low speeds it seems to have lots of torque. Not sure about fuel consumption yet. These days a 27hp engine might make 16hp with the factory muffler installed, while an old 16hp actually makes 16hp in the tractor. That makes the old engines feel really strong if you're used to the new ones. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
Hi, Researching the web suggested the car can be driven, without causing any further damage, if it's the B2 Servo. This because the B2 only affects the car getting into 1st 2nd gear, 3rd, 4th and reverse are fine. The trick is getting the transmission into 3rd or 4th, one suggestion was to remove the transmission vacuum hose which could help that happen faster. Can anyone tell me where the vacuum hose is located (picture if possible)? Does this make sound reasonable? I am not looking to continue drive without repairing, just trying to find a repair shop who will do the work and get it there without towing. Thanks, Bob ARTICLE: But, things could be worse, the car is drivable when this failure occurs, although it takes some patience. It's worse when cold, and is made worse by how much load you put on it. The object of driving a car with a bad B2 piston is to never give it much load in 1st and 2nd gears. Think of parking on a hill facing down. You want to get the car into 3rd as soon as you can and 3rd and 4th are unaffected by even catastrophicB2 failure. You might even consider pulling the transmission vacuum line so it shifts way much too early into 3rd. I did. Seems to make driving in a car with this problem a little easier. -Original Message- From: Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2013 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!! Thanks to everyone for the quick responses! Tomorrow I am going to see if it's worth trying to fix myself. I have limited time off in the next few weeks and really need this car back in action fast. Otherwise there is a local transmission shop a mile away I used in the past. Armed with the information everyone provided maybe it will only cost a few hundred dollars. My son really loves the car..he is 26 years old and I bought the car two weeks before he was born. He loves the comments he gets from admiring Mercedes Benz enthusiasts so I would love to keep it running! Does that sound reasonable for a transmission shop to charge 2 to 3 hours labor plus parts? Bob BobMessage- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2013 7:58 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!! Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It's broken no doubt about it. Not a big deal to replace, most shops will just tell you the tranny is bad It's possible the B2 band broke or the B2 adjusting screw backed out, but in a 1983 I think a busted piston is far more likely. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors
Yes. PTO driven generators, also known in the business as two bearing generators, are available with both direct drive and gear reduction units. Generac makes these as do a few other companies. They're not cheap nor easy to find, as they were never made in large volumes. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:14 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: This one looks to be a more serious machine, with a more serious price- http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/3965663133.html I wonder if the PTO could realistically be used to turn a back-up generator for the house? OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
they sound like Cicada Killers - they hunt and kill cicadas place an egg in their body and their baby feeds off the cicada. Can't recall if the hornets kill them 1st or not... I think they are called Japanese wasps or something check out -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphecius Larry On 8/10/2013 5:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I went downtown to the West End today (D.C. neighborhood) and passed by a raised garden sited between an apartment bldg. and the sidewalk, about 60' long x 15' deep, with the sidewalk edge 3' above ground slanting upwards at about a 30 degree angle to where it met the building. It was positively SWARMING with large hornets, not around a nest but evenly distributed among the green shrubbery!! These were the scary looking 1.5 inch ones with unearthly ochre and black markings. What struck me was that they weren't venturing out from this habitat and stinging passers by - fortunately. I don't know what the attraction was, as I didn't see any obvious flowers and in any case, aren't they carnivorous?? Would appreciate any insight from all the entomologists out there. Andrew, who is not scared of bees or mud daubers but fears hornets On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: I got a couple mud daubers who have set up shop on my living room window... They love to fill the ground terminals in all the 120v outlets in my garage. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
Most wasps are non threatening to humans - it's the people who freak out and run around trying to kill them. I only try to remove yellow jackets who build nests in the ground - it's too easy to not know they are there and get stung when cutting the grass... the way they swarm it's possible to be stung enough times to be serious... LarryT 91 300D On 8/7/2013 10:43 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: At 11:14 AM -0400 7/30/13, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: The paper wasps are actualy beneficial insects. I have seen them feasting on caterpillars in my vegetable garden. Their nests are affixed to the carport roof; I have never been stung by them (fingers crossed) or by the numerous loud-buzzing carpeneter bees busily drilling holes in the eaves and soffits. I got a couple mud daubers who have set up shop on my living room window... -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
Paper wasps around here are very territorial. They will attack from simply walking too close to an infested car. Mike On Aug 11, 2013 8:56 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Most wasps are non threatening to humans - it's the people who freak out and run around trying to kill them. I only try to remove yellow jackets who build nests in the ground - it's too easy to not know they are there and get stung when cutting the grass... the way they swarm it's possible to be stung enough times to be serious... LarryT 91 300D On 8/7/2013 10:43 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: At 11:14 AM -0400 7/30/13, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: The paper wasps are actualy beneficial insects. I have seen them feasting on caterpillars in my vegetable garden. Their nests are affixed to the carport roof; I have never been stung by them (fingers crossed) or by the numerous loud-buzzing carpeneter bees busily drilling holes in the eaves and soffits. I got a couple mud daubers who have set up shop on my living room window... -MMM- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
Since these were swarming by the dozens, must be something else. From Wikipedia Cicada killers are large, solitary waspshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waspin the family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_%28biology%29 Crabronidaehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crabronidae . On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Paper wasps around here are very territorial. They will attack from simply walking too close to an infested car. Mike On Aug 11, 2013 8:56 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Most wasps are non threatening to humans - it's the people who freak out and run around trying to kill them. I only try to remove yellow jackets who build nests in the ground - it's too easy to not know they are there and get stung when cutting the grass... the way they swarm it's possible to be stung enough times to be serious... LarryT 91 300D On 8/7/2013 10:43 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: At 11:14 AM -0400 7/30/13, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: The paper wasps are actualy beneficial insects. I have seen them feasting on caterpillars in my vegetable garden. Their nests are affixed to the carport roof; I have never been stung by them (fingers crossed) or by the numerous loud-buzzing carpeneter bees busily drilling holes in the eaves and soffits. I got a couple mud daubers who have set up shop on my living room window... -MMM- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] KFC Being Grilled
The Colonel undergoing interrogation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_bNHcwih8k Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] John Deere 318
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Smooth and powerful so far, yes... I'm impressed with how strong the engine is. Even at low speeds it seems to have lots of torque. Not sure about fuel consumption yet. These days a 27hp engine might make 16hp with the factory muffler installed, while an old 16hp actually makes 16hp in the tractor. That makes the old engines feel really strong if you're used to the new ones. Mitch. Another thing we can thank snears for. 3HP saws with 1/3 or 1/2 hp motors. 27hp engines that might make 16hp, and less than that on a Nebraska HP test. DIN HP is real. Nebraska HP rating for tractors is real HP also. Everything else is advertising hype. The 60 DIN HP of a OM616 is real. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] John Deere 318
Very cool! Nice find and sounds like a good price too. D Sent from my iPhone. Mobile Number +1(614)208-6000 On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, This morning I picked up a nice 318 that went up for sale locally for $1500. 610 hours, 50 deck. Recently serviced with all fluids, basic tuneup done, etc. The E320 wagon did admirable job bringing it home too. Overall, I'm very satisfied. I just mowed the lawn in a fraction of the time it took me before. I needs a bit of tuning and adjustments. Service manual CD is on order to get this done next weekend. Next is to find a plow for the winter! Photos are here: http://images.jaimekop.com/2013_08_10_John_Deere_318/ Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dave's hot 300D
I was jealous of Dave's hot 300D with the 6mm elements in the IP. However, earlier today the San Francisco chapter of MBCA toured the Tesla plant in Fremont and I got to test-drive an 'S.' I'm no longer jealous. Jeremy On Aug 10, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: After spending several weekends troubleshooting the acc in the 95 e300 and coming to the result it was a bad pbu, but it wasn't, I just completed the wiring harness replacement. Now it is working great except for vacuum issues. Been messing with that for a while too and with the mitivac diacovered a hole worn in the line from the tee under the crossover pipe to the connection near the drivers fender that runs to the acc. When I replace that I am sure it will work great. Now just need to replace the rear shocks and possibly the links and she will be ready to go. Sent from my iPhone ___ Daveslist mailing list davesl...@okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/daveslist_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
Robert Koziak wrote: Hi, Researching the web suggested the car can be driven, without causing any further damage, if it's the B2 Servo. This because the B2 only affects the car getting into 1st 2nd gear, 3rd, 4th and reverse are fine. The trick is getting the transmission into 3rd or 4th, one suggestion was to remove the transmission vacuum hose which could help that happen faster. Can anyone tell me where the vacuum hose is located (picture if possible)? Does this make sound reasonable? Not to my thinking, but I've never done it. If the shift RPM is controlled by a vacuum signal, wouldn't a total loss of vacuum give you upshifts at maximum RPM when you want minimum RPM? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Nice 72 300SEL
But what's with the front seats? Sort of ruins the whole appeal... http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/mercedes_benz/300sel/1591278.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
Mitch Haley wrote: Not to my thinking, but I've never done it. If the shift RPM is controlled by a vacuum signal, wouldn't a total loss of vacuum give you upshifts at maximum RPM when you want minimum RPM? I think your trans gets its throttle signal from a Bowden cable, and the hose they are talking about is probably to the modulator. Vac loss to the modulator would give maximum shift firmness. I don't know if that would give it any more drive in the gears that depend on the failed B2 band, but it would yank your teeth out when it finally catches 3rd gear. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
When mine failed I found it very difficult to drive, but possible. I'd suggest taking it on a short drive around the neighborhood, assuming you're in a low-traffic area, to see if you feel like it's practical/safe to attempt driving to the shop. The vacuum hose connects to a switch valve at the top of the engine valve cover. The valve is tied into the throttle linkage and has a bunch of vacuum lines connected to it. The line to the transmission runs down and behind the engine. Note that if you disconnect any vacuum lines you will want to plug the open ends (golf tees work well) so that your other vacuum functions (engine shut-off, door locks, etc.) continue to work. Allan Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com writes: Hi, Researching the web suggested the car can be driven, without causing any further damage, if it's the B2 Servo. This because the B2 only affects the car getting into 1st 2nd gear, 3rd, 4th and reverse are fine. The trick is getting the transmission into 3rd or 4th, one suggestion was to remove the transmission vacuum hose which could help that happen faster. Can anyone tell me where the vacuum hose is located (picture if possible)? Does this make sound reasonable? I am not looking to continue drive without repairing, just trying to find a repair shop who will do the work and get it there without towing. Thanks, Bob ARTICLE: But, things could be worse, the car is drivable when this failure occurs, although it takes some patience. It's worse when cold, and is made worse by how much load you put on it. The object of driving a car with a bad B2 piston is to never give it much load in 1st and 2nd gears. Think of parking on a hill facing down. You want to get the car into 3rd as soon as you can and 3rd and 4th are unaffected by even catastrophicB2 failure. You might even consider pulling the transmission vacuum line so it shifts way much too early into 3rd. I did. Seems to make driving in a car with this problem a little easier. -Original Message- From: Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2013 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!! Thanks to everyone for the quick responses! Tomorrow I am going to see if it's worth trying to fix myself. I have limited time off in the next few weeks and really need this car back in action fast. Otherwise there is a local transmission shop a mile away I used in the past. Armed with the information everyone provided maybe it will only cost a few hundred dollars. My son really loves the car..he is 26 years old and I bought the car two weeks before he was born. He loves the comments he gets from admiring Mercedes Benz enthusiasts so I would love to keep it running! Does that sound reasonable for a transmission shop to charge 2 to 3 hours labor plus parts? Bob BobMessage- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2013 7:58 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!! Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It's broken no doubt about it. Not a big deal to replace, most shops will just tell you the tranny is bad It's possible the B2 band broke or the B2 adjusting screw backed out, but in a 1983 I think a busted piston is far more likely. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
Not to my thinking, but I've never done it. If the shift RPM is controlled by a vacuum signal, wouldn't a total loss of vacuum give you upshifts at maximum RPM when you want minimum RPM? On the diesel I thought that the vacuum signal mainly affected the firmness of the shift not the shift point itself. I could be wrong about that though. On my 300D the modulator diaphragm is leaking so I don't get any vacuum signal to the transmission. It shifts very firmly as a result. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net writes: Most wasps are non threatening to humans - it's the people who freak out and run around trying to kill them. I only try to remove yellow jackets who build nests in the ground - it's too easy to not know they are there and get stung when cutting the grass... the way they swarm it's possible to be stung enough times to be serious... I stepped on a yellow jacket nest once, coming down off a ladder that I had set up right on top of the nest (unknowingly). I'm not sure how many times I got stung in the foot, I only felt one flash of pain, but my foot swelled up to the point where I had to wear flip-flops for a couple of days. The wasps were rewarded by a heavy dousing of RAID into their nest entrance. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors
http://www.harborfreight.com/16000-watts-max-15000-watts-rated-tractor-driven-pto-generator-65309.html Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: Yes. PTO driven generators, also known in the business as two bearing generators, are available with both direct drive and gear reduction units. Generac makes these as do a few other companies. They're not cheap nor easy to find, as they were never made in large volumes. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:14 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: This one looks to be a more serious machine, with a more serious price- http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/for/3965663133.html I wonder if the PTO could realistically be used to turn a back-up generator for the house? OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: I think your trans gets its throttle signal from a Bowden cable, and the hose they are talking about is probably to the modulator. Vac loss to the modulator would give maximum shift firmness. I don't know if that would give it any more drive in the gears that depend on the failed B2 band, but it would yank your teeth out when it finally catches 3rd gear. Yes, you're right. I forgot about the cable. -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Why I don't take my car to a mechanic
I started on the front brake job on my 240D today. I went to take the hub off the driver's side rotor and immediately noticed that the job was sabotaged four years ago. One of the five Allen head bolts was completely stripped. These rotors were replaced by my mechanic when I bought the car. He decided to replace a stripped bolt. Nice. Now, if I were in Maine where I have my welder, I would weld on a cheap socket and remove it. Guess I have to transport the hub/rotor assembly up there. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
Allan Streib wrote: I stepped on a yellow jacket nest once, coming down off a ladder that I had set up right on top of the nest (unknowingly). I'm not sure how many times I got stung in the foot, I only felt one flash of pain, but my foot swelled up to the point where I had to wear flip-flops for a couple of days. How about yellow jackets nesting in the attic insulation, chewing the drywall above your bed, dropping on you in your sleep and stinging you? Fortunately they're aggressive enough that the first one in my bed stung me so I didn't have to contend with 50 of them. Another time I got nailed when they nested in a big round hay bale, I managed to clear out before getting stung a second time. The first time I had a big reaction to a yellow jacket sting I was riding my bike flat out, about 25mph, and one got in my jersey. Nailed me 3 times in the chest before I got my bike stopped and pulled my jersey off. Yellow jackets are kill on sight targets. Wasps and hornets I kill only if they nest in car doors or mirrors. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors
Cool. Let's see, $6000 for a used tractor + $1600 for the genhead = $7600 for a 17KW generator, but it will mow the grass as well. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: http://www.harborfreight.com/16000-watts-max-15000-watts-rated-tractor-driven-pto-generator-65309.html -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors
Oops, I was off a few thousand - the tractor is $8000, but only has a 23HP engine, and the 15KW genhead wants 30HP - might have to pass on this one. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:22 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Cool. Let's see, $6000 for a used tractor + $1600 for the genhead = $7600 for a 17KW generator, but it will mow the grass as well. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: http://www.harborfreight.com/16000-watts-max-15000-watts-rated-tractor-driven-pto-generator-65309.html -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors
OK Don wrote: Cool. Let's see, $6000 for a used tractor + $1600 for the genhead = $7600 for a 17KW generator, but it will mow the grass as well. But it won't turn itself on when there's a power failure. OTOH, on one occasion my parents' Generac standby unit didn't either. Lightning took out their transformer, the generator fired up, and 30 seconds later the transfer switch figured the generator hadn't stabilized yet, so it waited for Hell to freeze over before engaging. The worst of both worlds, the generator was burning propane but the lights and refrigerator weren't working. I went out there in the storm, turned the generator off and back on, and the transfer switch engaged properly. But it's made us leery ever since of depending on the thing to do its job when nobody is home. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors
OK Don wrote: Oops, I was off a few thousand - the tractor is $8000, but only has a 23HP engine, and the 15KW genhead wants 30HP - might have to pass on this one. So you only get 12kw out of it. Are you talking about that 57 hour Kubota? That one seemed like a deal for anybody who was considering dropping five figures on a new one. But I'd check and see exactly what a new one would cost you first. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors
That's a Generac! Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: OK Don wrote: Cool. Let's see, $6000 for a used tractor + $1600 for the genhead = $7600 for a 17KW generator, but it will mow the grass as well. But it won't turn itself on when there's a power failure. OTOH, on one occasion my parents' Generac standby unit didn't either. Lightning took out their transformer, the generator fired up, and 30 seconds later the transfer switch figured the generator hadn't stabilized yet, so it waited for Hell to freeze over before engaging. The worst of both worlds, the generator was burning propane but the lights and refrigerator weren't working. I went out there in the storm, turned the generator off and back on, and the transfer switch engaged properly. But it's made us leery ever since of depending on the thing to do its job when nobody is home. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors
So, what is a decent home back-up power generator/transfer switch combo? On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That's a Generac! -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors
OK Don wrote: So, what is a decent home back-up power generator/transfer switch combo? I don't know about best, but Briggs is cheap: http://search.ebay.com/380671444551 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors
Kohler or Onan, but not the consumer grade stuff. If I was going to put in another standby system I would shop around for a decent used commercial system. There are lots of them out there with few hours on them as take outs. I had a 25kW Generac at my last house, but I got it through work as a take out from a very expensive (2.5M) home. Cost me $40 to get it running, courtesy of John, the Aussie guy with the MB shop. He could source the electrical part the engine needed that couldn't be found here in the States. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:44 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: So, what is a decent home back-up power generator/transfer switch combo? On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That's a Generac! -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
Went out for a test drive.as stated on level ground I could coax it into gear and once it hit 3rd and 4th the car ran fine. But it did not work well going up a hill! Definitely symptomatic of the B2 Piston failure so I think I will get away without getting a new transmission thanks to the group. I will visit the Transmission Shop tomorrow morning armed with the problem and solution and see if he will take on the task and how much. Will pass on the results. Bob -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!! Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: I think your trans gets its throttle signal from a Bowden cable, and the hose they are talking about is probably to the modulator. Vac loss to the modulator would give maximum shift firmness. I don't know if that would give it any more drive in the gears that depend on the failed B2 band, but it would yank your teeth out when it finally catches 3rd gear. Yes, you're right. I forgot about the cable. -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
I was putting up some wire fencing on the posts of a horse corral once with one of those staple hammer-puller tools. Unbeknownst to me there was a yellow jacket nest between the post and the surrounding dirt. They took strong exception to the vibration I caused by hammering at the post, and showed me their displeasure by stinging me a few times. A little rotenone powder settled their hash! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere Most wasps are non threatening to humans - it's the people who freak out and run around trying to kill them. I only try to remove yellow jackets who build nests in the ground - it's too easy to not know they are there and get stung when cutting the grass... the way they swarm it's possible to be stung enough times to be serious... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Whaddya Think?
I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car? It's about 20 miles away from me. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?
I would offer him 2-3k On 8/11/2013 4:07 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car? It's about 20 miles away from me. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?
If you want it... can't hurt to ask. But if he says yes you are sorta obligated, at least the way I look at things. Allan Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car? It's about 20 miles away from me. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: The vacuum hose connects to a switch valve at the top of the engine valve cover. The valve is tied into the throttle linkage and has a bunch of vacuum lines connected to it. The line to the transmission runs down and behind the engine. Actually I'm wrong about that... just went out and looked at mine and the vacuum modulator line seems to tee directly off of one of the main lines. I had assume it'd be tied into the throttle-actuated valves somehow. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
Several years ago, I picked up a pitch fork and began feeling a burning sensation on inside of one of my fingers; moved it over a bit on the handle and began feeling same sensation on slightly different area of the finger. Finally looked - I had my finger over a bumble bee (carpenter bee) inside a hole it had bored in the handle; 'kept popping me until moved my finger off 'im. Wilton - Original Message - From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere I was putting up some wire fencing on the posts of a horse corral once with one of those staple hammer-puller tools. Unbeknownst to me there was a yellow jacket nest between the post and the surrounding dirt. They took strong exception to the vibration I caused by hammering at the post, and showed me their displeasure by stinging me a few times. A little rotenone powder settled their hash! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere Most wasps are non threatening to humans - it's the people who freak out and run around trying to kill them. I only try to remove yellow jackets who build nests in the ground - it's too easy to not know they are there and get stung when cutting the grass... the way they swarm it's possible to be stung enough times to be serious... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
Should be hooked to the vacuum valve on the IP. On 8/11/2013 5:03 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: The vacuum hose connects to a switch valve at the top of the engine valve cover. The valve is tied into the throttle linkage and has a bunch of vacuum lines connected to it. The line to the transmission runs down and behind the engine. Actually I'm wrong about that... just went out and looked at mine and the vacuum modulator line seems to tee directly off of one of the main lines. I had assume it'd be tied into the throttle-actuated valves somehow. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?
I was thinking $1500. If he bites, I would do it. There's nothing there that's so bad as to make it a money pit. I'm not taking any bets, however. I think the big deal killer is that it's not currently driveable. That will take it out of a lot of people's consideration unless they're nearby. That is the one thing I'm betting on. Dan On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Allan Streib wrote: If you want it... can't hurt to ask. But if he says yes you are sorta obligated, at least the way I look at things. Allan Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car? It's about 20 miles away from me. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?
I highly doubt he will take it. Usually they have to get 3 or 4 people offering them that sort of money then they start figuring out that's what they will get and take the next offer that comes along. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was thinking $1500. If he bites, I would do it. There's nothing there that's so bad as to make it a money pit. I'm not taking any bets, however. I think the big deal killer is that it's not currently driveable. That will take it out of a lot of people's consideration unless they're nearby. That is the one thing I'm betting on. Dan On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Allan Streib wrote: If you want it... can't hurt to ask. But if he says yes you are sorta obligated, at least the way I look at things. Allan Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car? It's about 20 miles away from me. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '07 R320CDI For Sale
Son's '07 320CDI is for sale in Goldsboro, NC; 254 kmi; nearly all freeway - many trips to Atlanta, Charlotte, etc; torque converter's been chattering occasionally for 150 kmi; ding on left rear door; silver exterior; gray int.; really does BLOW ICE COLD. $12.5 k. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?
Very true. However, this is Dad's old car and Dad isn't around any more, nor does there appear to be any sort of sentiment in his effort to sell. Looks like it's taking up driveway space. I sent him a rather detailed note with my concerns and the justification for my offer. If anything, he shouldn't be offended. You can read between the lines in his very detailed description that deep down he knows this is a project car. Around here it' s worth maybe $5000 if it was in good running condition. Right now you can't move it out of the driveway without hitting it with a shot of ether. And if he is offended, well, TS. Dan On Aug 11, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I highly doubt he will take it. Usually they have to get 3 or 4 people offering them that sort of money then they start figuring out that's what they will get and take the next offer that comes along. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why I don't take my car to a mechanic
Agree completely. My 91 300D only had 100K miles on it -- I assume the rear rotors were replaced at some point although I can't imagine why at such low mileage. It looks like the rubber hose fittings and the bleed valves were worked on using a pair of pliers! The flats on the Hexes are all rounded off - I had hoped to replace the brake fluid but had to get creative - I managed to unscrew the rubber hose (with vice grips) and let some fluid leak from the connection while my pressure bleeder kept pressure on the fluid. Not the preferred method. I found a special socket in my tool box - it is intended to go on a drill and put it on the stud whatever and try to unscrew it while putting pressure on the drill. Haven't tried it yet - if it doesn't break it loose I won't have much left to work with. If I am unsuccessful removing the bleeder I will be left with a scrawny stud kind of thing which I assume wdill need to be drilled out. And if drilling the bleeder out doesn't break it loose and allow it to unscrew I will need to replace the caliper. not many good options BTW, back on 2002 or so, I bought a set of calipers and rotors from a list member. He said they had the same part numbers according to the MB Parts Site and the front stuff fit perfectly - I couldn't be happier with them. But the rears have a different bolt hole placement and the bolts are different.but doesn't matter, perhaps I will sell them on eBay? ;-) The problem is those buggered up fasteners! BTW, I forgot to mention that the hex that attaches the rubber hose to the brake hard pipe that splits near the pineapple.. The hard pipes fittings are buggered also. I cannot imagine what someone was doing back there with such low mileage but they need to buy some decent flare nut wrenches if they want to work on brakes! BTW, i soaked the fittings with PB Blaster in the hope it will help the threads break loose Anyone need a nice pair of rear calipers from a 95 E Class? ;-) If so I can help - Sorry about the long email Larry xdw ;ahoo.com wrote: I started on the front brake job on my 240D today. I went to take the hub off the driver's side rotor and immediately noticed that the job was sabotaged four years ago. One of the five Allen head bolts was completely stripped. These rotors were replaced by my mechanic when I bought the car. He decided to replace a stripped bolt. Nice. Now, if I were in Maine where I have my welder, I would weld on a cheap socket and remove it. Guess I have to transport the hub/rotor assembly up there. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?
at least you'll find outhow negotiable the price really is. It does sound like lot of work -- and these cars are not very easy to work on with very expensive parts. Also consider the cost of labor - even if you can do some yourself, most people can't -- I suggest you add labor and material to do all the work needed -- no matter what, it will only be worth 12-15K if in spectacular condition - they don't seem to bring much more unless _/pristine/_. Also, there are an awful lot of those cars around - If it were me I'd wait for a next generation SL as they look much more modern than the w107 chassis.Not sure about the late 80s but the earlier 450SLs didn't get very good mileag - a consideration in the day of $5/gal gas.unless you're independently wealthy. ;-) Good Luck -- Larry 91 300D On 8/11/2013 6:19 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I was thinking $1500. If he bites, I would do it. There's nothing there that's so bad as to make it a money pit. I'm not taking any bets, however. I think the big deal killer is that it's not currently driveable. That will take it out of a lot of people's consideration unless they're nearby. That is the one thing I'm betting on. Dan On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Allan Streib wrote: If you want it... can't hurt to ask. But if he says yes you are sorta obligated, at least the way I look at things. Allan Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: I should pull a Kleb and offer the guy $1000 for the car? It's about 20 miles away from me. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1725653-fs-1986-560sl.html#post5901291 He'll never get anything close to the $6900 he tossed out. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
in her older years before she came to live with us my Mom used to chase those bees al over her back yard with a piece of paper towel soaked in gasoline - when she found their hole she'd stuff the gas soaked paper towel in the hole. No more problem, At least she didn't light them AFAIK. ;-) LarryT On 8/11/2013 6:05 PM, WILTON wrote: Several years ago, I picked up a pitch fork and began feeling a burning sensation on inside of one of my fingers; moved it over a bit on the handle and began feeling same sensation on slightly different area of the finger. Finally looked - I had my finger over a bumble bee (carpenter bee) inside a hole it had bored in the handle; 'kept popping me until moved my finger off 'im. Wilton - Original Message - From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere I was putting up some wire fencing on the posts of a horse corral once with one of those staple hammer-puller tools. Unbeknownst to me there was a yellow jacket nest between the post and the surrounding dirt. They took strong exception to the vibration I caused by hammering at the post, and showed me their displeasure by stinging me a few times. A little rotenone powder settled their hash! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere Most wasps are non threatening to humans - it's the people who freak out and run around trying to kill them. I only try to remove yellow jackets who build nests in the ground - it's too easy to not know they are there and get stung when cutting the grass... the way they swarm it's possible to be stung enough times to be serious... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
Ahhh reminds me of the good ole days when I could buy Diazanon poison - if I found a Yellow Jacket nest I'd get up early the next morning after marking the nest opening with a rock or brick and then I'd pack the opening full of diazanon crystals. Never had to treat a nest twice. The thing that worries me are African bees. They are so aggressive, sting many times and ill chase people into water. I've heard they circle over people who went in water and wait for the victim to come out. I hear many animals have been attacked by the bees if the grazing animal got too close. I am sure they are in some border states and are gaining more ground every year. I am hoping they never get to Va and stay South !l LARRYT 91 300D On 8/11/2013 5:07 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: I was putting up some wire fencing on the posts of a horse corral once with one of those staple hammer-puller tools. Unbeknownst to me there was a yellow jacket nest between the post and the surrounding dirt. They took strong exception to the vibration I caused by hammering at the post, and showed me their displeasure by stinging me a few times. A little rotenone powder settled their hash! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere Most wasps are non threatening to humans - it's the people who freak out and run around trying to kill them. I only try to remove yellow jackets who build nests in the ground - it's too easy to not know they are there and get stung when cutting the grass... the way they swarm it's possible to be stung enough times to be serious... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?
I don't know why people get offended by lowball offers. If someone make me an offer that is too low, I just say sorry, I can't accept that. It's just an offer... not a personal insult! What does annoy me is if somone says something like would you take $1,500 and then if I say yes, they backpedal and say something like they are still looking around or want to think about it. I now ask are you offering to buy it right now for that price? before I answer. Also if I am buying I don't talk about price until I am ready to actually buy the car. Allan Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: Very true. However, this is Dad's old car and Dad isn't around any more, nor does there appear to be any sort of sentiment in his effort to sell. Looks like it's taking up driveway space. I sent him a rather detailed note with my concerns and the justification for my offer. If anything, he shouldn't be offended. You can read between the lines in his very detailed description that deep down he knows this is a project car. Around here it' s worth maybe $5000 if it was in good running condition. Right now you can't move it out of the driveway without hitting it with a shot of ether. And if he is offended, well, TS. Dan On Aug 11, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I highly doubt he will take it. Usually they have to get 3 or 4 people offering them that sort of money then they start figuring out that's what they will get and take the next offer that comes along. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why I don't take my car to a mechanic
Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net writes: BTW, i soaked the fittings with PB Blaster in the hope it will help the threads break loose I like the ATF and acetone mix myself. I have had very good luck with it. Allan -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '07 R320CDI For Sale
Hm Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:35 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Son's '07 320CDI is for sale in Goldsboro, NC; 254 kmi; nearly all freeway - many trips to Atlanta, Charlotte, etc; torque converter's been chattering occasionally for 150 kmi; ding on left rear door; silver exterior; gray int.; really does BLOW ICE COLD. $12.5 k. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
There's a good chance mine isn't right. The PO had obviously worked on the vacuum plumbing because it's all connected with plastic tee fittings not the proper rubber wye fittings. Anyone have a diagram of how the lines are supposed to connect? Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: Should be hooked to the vacuum valve on the IP. On 8/11/2013 5:03 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: The vacuum hose connects to a switch valve at the top of the engine valve cover. The valve is tied into the throttle linkage and has a bunch of vacuum lines connected to it. The line to the transmission runs down and behind the engine. Actually I'm wrong about that... just went out and looked at mine and the vacuum modulator line seems to tee directly off of one of the main lines. I had assume it'd be tied into the throttle-actuated valves somehow. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why I don't take my car to a mechanic
good suggestion - I'll mix a batch - 50:50 IIRC - right? . On 8/11/2013 7:24 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net writes: BTW, i soaked the fittings with PB Blaster in the hope it will help the threads break loose I like the ATF and acetone mix myself. I have had very good luck with it. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Saw a Passat TDI at church today -- it was a stunning car! Unfortunately it was b1ack or it would have looked better. IMO Silver or while is best for a Mercedes... Has anyone heard any bad news about the Passat TDI? LarryT On 8/10/2013 12:17 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: i'd get a jetta tdi wagon. jaime's dad has one On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I noticed on that new Passat former DIL was driving yesterday, they cut a big rectangular hole into another perfectly good steel top. %( Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI IMO that's a VW mentality that goes way back - at least to the '50s and '60s when the radio speaker was on the driver side - they were trying to make the driver happy because they were usually the decision maker when it came to buying new vehicles one of the VW old timers told me that when I was a teenager working as a mechanics apprentice in the late 60s. (If I had been older I may have figured it out for myself) ;-) Larryt 59 VW beetle (our 1st car) On 8/8/2013 5:21 PM, OK Don wrote: electrical drivers seat and manual passenges seat __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 72 300SEL
The car looks so darned nice until I got to those seats! and - why try to sell it without having those seats repaired? Sheesh... LarryT On 8/11/2013 11:43 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: But what's with the front seats? Sort of ruins the whole appeal... http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/mercedes_benz/300sel/1591278.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB Factory Manuals? (was: Re: sunroof not powering open? - W123)
hi! where can i get my hands on a factory manual for an '85 300D (Cal)? cheers! e On 09/Aug/13 12:24, Dave Cavner wrote: Section 77 of the MB factory manual is very helpful in understanding the what, where and how of the sliding roof assembly. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 72 300SEL
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 19:42:43 -0400 Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: The car looks so darned nice until I got to those seats! and - why try to sell it without having those seats repaired? Sheesh... Yes! Especially for $17.8k! Craig On 8/11/2013 11:43 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: But what's with the front seats? Sort of ruins the whole appeal... http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/mercedes_benz/300sel/1591278.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 117 kmi '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi (awaiting parting out) '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (leaking diesel from somewhere in the engine compartment) Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 72 300SEL
Looks like there are cracks in the finish on the glove compartment too. But overall yeah looks really nice. Web-optimized photos can hide a lot though, you never really know until you see it in person. Allan Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net writes: The car looks so darned nice until I got to those seats! and - why try to sell it without having those seats repaired? Sheesh... LarryT On 8/11/2013 11:43 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: But what's with the front seats? Sort of ruins the whole appeal... http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/mercedes_benz/300sel/1591278.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why I don't take my car to a mechanic
Yeah, it doesn't seem to be very critical. I mix very small amounts as needed and apply it with an eye dropper. I don't try to save the mixture, the acetone evaporates quickly. Allan Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net writes: good suggestion - I'll mix a batch - 50:50 IIRC - right? . On 8/11/2013 7:24 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net writes: BTW, i soaked the fittings with PB Blaster in the hope it will help the threads break loose I like the ATF and acetone mix myself. I have had very good luck with it. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '07 R320CDI For Sale
A twofer? Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '07 R320CDI For Sale Hm Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 5:35 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Son's '07 320CDI is for sale in Goldsboro, NC; 254 kmi; nearly all freeway - many trips to Atlanta, Charlotte, etc; torque converter's been chattering occasionally for 150 kmi; ding on left rear door; silver exterior; gray int.; really does BLOW ICE COLD. $12.5 k. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Standby Generators
Dan, I have a Generac propane standby generator, about 15KW. The engine says Generac on it but I suspect it's really made by someone else. Do you know? By the way, the only time it failed to start was caused by a dead battery. The 100 amp transfer switch is a knife-blade design so I suppose it could stick if it hasn't operated in a long time. There is a manual override but I don't think I'd want to open the box in a bad storm. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors Kohler or Onan, but not the consumer grade stuff. If I was going to put in another standby system I would shop around for a decent used commercial system. There are lots of them out there with few hours on them as take outs. I had a 25kW Generac at my last house, but I got it through work as a take out from a very expensive (2.5M) home. Cost me $40 to get it running, courtesy of John, the Aussie guy with the MB shop. He could source the electrical part the engine needed that couldn't be found here in the States. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:44 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: So, what is a decent home back-up power generator/transfer switch combo? On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That's a Generac! -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think cheapskate?
The M117 engine is pretty good, except that the timing chain guides need to replaced every now and then. This is a KE-jetronic (CIS/E) car, maybe the fuel pump relay going wonky? However it is a reliable system and reasonably simple. Of concern is the 'corrosion' on the engine, looks like it was near nasty stuff, like acid rain. Hate the colour of the interior, I thought they got rid of those colours back in the 70's. Rust! Like an iceberg, you only see the tip of it and rust repair is expensive. Yeah basically if that SL was rust free and had no issues then yeah 6-7k is about right but not in this state, soft top has tear, seats are dried out. Looks to me like it was not loved much. To make this a worthwhile thing, you gotta be able to do the work to get it up to a decent standard yourself. How much is a decent paint job these days? Do you know anything about the KE system? Do you know a good indie who knows these cars? Hendrik who does not own a SL On 12/08/13 08:51, Allan Streib wrote: I don't know why people get offended by lowball offers. If someone make me an offer that is too low, I just say sorry, I can't accept that. It's just an offer... not a personal insult! What does annoy me is if somone says something like would you take $1,500 and then if I say yes, they backpedal and say something like they are still looking around or want to think about it. I now ask are you offering to buy it right now for that price? before I answer. Also if I am buying I don't talk about price until I am ready to actually buy the car. Allan Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com writes: Very true. However, this is Dad's old car and Dad isn't around any more, nor does there appear to be any sort of sentiment in his effort to sell. Looks like it's taking up driveway space. I sent him a rather detailed note with my concerns and the justification for my offer. If anything, he shouldn't be offended. You can read between the lines in his very detailed description that deep down he knows this is a project car. Around here it' s worth maybe $5000 if it was in good running condition. Right now you can't move it out of the driveway without hitting it with a shot of ether. And if he is offended, well, TS. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere
Their range is shown on this map, http://nationalatlas.gov/mld/afrbeep.html On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Ahhh reminds me of the good ole days when I could buy Diazanon poison - if I found a Yellow Jacket nest I'd get up early the next morning after marking the nest opening with a rock or brick and then I'd pack the opening full of diazanon crystals. Never had to treat a nest twice. The thing that worries me are African bees. They are so aggressive, sting many times and ill chase people into water. I've heard they circle over people who went in water and wait for the victim to come out. I hear many animals have been attacked by the bees if the grazing animal got too close. I am sure they are in some border states and are gaining more ground every year. I am hoping they never get to Va and stay South !l LARRYT 91 300D On 8/11/2013 5:07 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: I was putting up some wire fencing on the posts of a horse corral once with one of those staple hammer-puller tools. Unbeknownst to me there was a yellow jacket nest between the post and the surrounding dirt. They took strong exception to the vibration I caused by hammering at the post, and showed me their displeasure by stinging me a few times. A little rotenone powder settled their hash! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**okiebenz.commercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere Most wasps are non threatening to humans - it's the people who freak out and run around trying to kill them. I only try to remove yellow jackets who build nests in the ground - it's too easy to not know they are there and get stung when cutting the grass... the way they swarm it's possible to be stung enough times to be serious... __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Standby Generators
I would have to know more. Is it air cooled or water cooled? Where was it purchased? Model number? In fairness, the one thing that Generac has done right that no one else in the business has done is make a decent product for the consumer market. Their small standby units marketed through Home Despot and Lowe's are actually pretty decent for the money spent, and have a fairly high level of reliability. The other folks, such as Kohler and Onan, have tried to tap this market unsuccessfully for years. They can't make a highly commoditied? product because they're so deeply involved in the commercial market. Trying to make a generator based on price point rather than design is nigh impossible. Kohler's current and recent offerings, in my opinion, are too highly engineered and rely far too much on electronics. Their controls are microprocessor based and use proprietary software and hardware. If something acts up or breaks, you're screwed. Sadly, many consumers don't discover this until it's too late and they're stuck with a very expensive repair bill or a large expensive lawn ornament. Generac is an engineering house rather than a manufacturer. They design stuff themselves and base their production on volume, which is so far from what the others do it's an alien concept. That's why everything says Generac on it - it's someone else's product, like Briggs or Tecumseh, with Generac's exterior design for things like cooling. Case in point is the 25kW unit I got for nothing and fixed for $40. It had a Mitsubishi gas industrial engine that was never marketed in the US. Generac bought the long blocks directly from Mitsubishi and added all the peripheral parts such as fuel, drive and mounting. When the coil in the distributor failed (a system much like GM's HEI) the only fix was an assembly replacement - a new distributor - to the tune of $1600 for the part alone. With travel time, mileage and labor all wrapped up in that repair, it exceeded 50% of the cost of a new unit. The owner bought a new unit and we took the old one back. I did some research and found that the engine was common in Asia and Oceania, so I got a hold of John in Australia and he got me the coil - for a whopping $40 US shipped! This is the risk with the Generac product, but as far as the consumer stuff, parts are common and plentiful, so that's not an issue. Dan On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Dan, I have a Generac propane standby generator, about 15KW. The engine says Generac on it but I suspect it's really made by someone else. Do you know? By the way, the only time it failed to start was caused by a dead battery. The 100 amp transfer switch is a knife-blade design so I suppose it could stick if it hasn't operated in a long time. There is a manual override but I don't think I'd want to open the box in a bad storm. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of diesel law tractors Kohler or Onan, but not the consumer grade stuff. If I was going to put in another standby system I would shop around for a decent used commercial system. There are lots of them out there with few hours on them as take outs. I had a 25kW Generac at my last house, but I got it through work as a take out from a very expensive (2.5M) home. Cost me $40 to get it running, courtesy of John, the Aussie guy with the MB shop. He could source the electrical part the engine needed that couldn't be found here in the States. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:44 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: So, what is a decent home back-up power generator/transfer switch combo? On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That's a Generac! -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think cheapskate?
I have a third generation (yes, that's third!) MB indie in town. The father (still living), two sons and a grandson or two are the business. They have forgotten more than the local stealerships will ever know. When I had my W112 the old man used to get the giggles whenever I brought it in, because he knew the chassis so well and rarely ever saw them. I can deal with all of the issues it has, except paint. and to be honest I would ignore it. From what the guy is describing the car sat for an extended time under a non-breathable cover in a shaded area (probably a car port.) This will almost always result in the failure of the clear coat, leaving it a milky color that won't come out. No fix for that short of a repaint. The interior is scary, but color resolution in digital photos is not all that great, so I wouldn't worry tht it's as bad as it looks. Dan On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: The M117 engine is pretty good, except that the timing chain guides need to replaced every now and then. This is a KE-jetronic (CIS/E) car, maybe the fuel pump relay going wonky? However it is a reliable system and reasonably simple. Of concern is the 'corrosion' on the engine, looks like it was near nasty stuff, like acid rain. Hate the colour of the interior, I thought they got rid of those colours back in the 70's. Rust! Like an iceberg, you only see the tip of it and rust repair is expensive. Yeah basically if that SL was rust free and had no issues then yeah 6-7k is about right but not in this state, soft top has tear, seats are dried out. Looks to me like it was not loved much. To make this a worthwhile thing, you gotta be able to do the work to get it up to a decent standard yourself. How much is a decent paint job these days? Do you know anything about the KE system? Do you know a good indie who knows these cars? Hendrik who does not own a SL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 72 300SEL
I had a national MBCA concours-winning tobacco brown 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan, with cognac leather interior. Sold it to a credit card company for $13K back in the late 90s. It had a s/r as well. I love maroon, however, way more than brown. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 19:42:43 -0400 Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: The car looks so darned nice until I got to those seats! and - why try to sell it without having those seats repaired? Sheesh... Yes! Especially for $17.8k! Craig On 8/11/2013 11:43 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: But what's with the front seats? Sort of ruins the whole appeal... http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/mercedes_benz/300sel/1591278.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 117 kmi '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi (awaiting parting out) '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (leaking diesel from somewhere in the engine compartment) Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 72 300SEL
Andrew wrote: I had a national MBCA concours-winning tobacco brown 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan... Did you enjoy that 3.5? I have always heard that was one of the better fast engines made. Over-square is the term Stu Ritter gave that engine. High rev? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADDED Automatic Transmission issue 1983 300D 195K. Shifts in Reverse but issue with Forward. Help!!!
I'd look for an indie Mercedes shop first, there's a better chance that they have done a B2 replacement than a generic tranny shop. If you can find a tranny shop that specializes in MB and BMW, then that's even better (we had one in Norman, OK). On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: I will visit the Transmission Shop tomorrow morning armed with the problem and solution and see if he will take on the task and how much. Will pass on the results. Bob -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
No, but you do need to specify which one - the 2012 and later or the earlier ones - complete re-design for 2012. IIRC, you can get the TDI with either a normal auto tranny or the DSG dual clutch tranny. IMHO, the DSG is just too cool. Really like mine. I wouldn't say it is stunning - I'd say it's OK. The CC borders on stunning, but then it's a CL knock-off. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Saw a Passat TDI at church today -- it was a stunning car! Unfortunately it was b1ack or it would have looked better. IMO Silver or while is best for a Mercedes... Has anyone heard any bad news about the Passat TDI? LarryT -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think cheapskate?
Well that sounds good then, guess all you can do is put your hat in the ring and see what happens, personally I would prefer a 420SL, 560 is overkilll for places with speed limits. Hendrik who has the lowly 6 banger family truck On 12/08/13 10:19, Dan Penoff wrote: I have a third generation (yes, that's third!) MB indie in town. The father (still living), two sons and a grandson or two are the business. They have forgotten more than the local stealerships will ever know. When I had my W112 the old man used to get the giggles whenever I brought it in, because he knew the chassis so well and rarely ever saw them. I can deal with all of the issues it has, except paint. and to be honest I would ignore it. From what the guy is describing the car sat for an extended time under a non-breathable cover in a shaded area (probably a car port.) This will almost always result in the failure of the clear coat, leaving it a milky color that won't come out. No fix for that short of a repaint. The interior is scary, but color resolution in digital photos is not all that great, so I wouldn't worry tht it's as bad as it looks. Dan On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: The M117 engine is pretty good, except that the timing chain guides need to replaced every now and then. This is a KE-jetronic (CIS/E) car, maybe the fuel pump relay going wonky? However it is a reliable system and reasonably simple. Of concern is the 'corrosion' on the engine, looks like it was near nasty stuff, like acid rain. Hate the colour of the interior, I thought they got rid of those colours back in the 70's. Rust! Like an iceberg, you only see the tip of it and rust repair is expensive. Yeah basically if that SL was rust free and had no issues then yeah 6-7k is about right but not in this state, soft top has tear, seats are dried out. Looks to me like it was not loved much. To make this a worthwhile thing, you gotta be able to do the work to get it up to a decent standard yourself. How much is a decent paint job these days? Do you know anything about the KE system? Do you know a good indie who knows these cars? Hendrik who does not own a SL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 72 300SEL 3.5
Pick of the litter, unless you can afford to buy and maintain a 6.3. The M116 is a short stroke motor, which tend to rely on revs for power, http://www.w116.org/library/autocar7202 Hendrik who has always fancied a 3.5 On 12/08/13 10:42, Mountain Man wrote: Andrew wrote: I had a national MBCA concours-winning tobacco brown 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan... Did you enjoy that 3.5? I have always heard that was one of the better fast engines made. Over-square is the term Stu Ritter gave that engine. High rev? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:12:32 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The CC Cruise Control? borders on stunning, but then it's a CL Craig's List? knock-off. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
The VW CC - their coupe, top-of-the-line. http://www.vw.com/en/models/cc/gallery.html Mercedes CL550, etc. - http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/legacy/vehicles/class?class=CLbodystyle=CPE On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:12:32 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The CC Cruise Control? borders on stunning, but then it's a CL Craig's List? knock-off. Craig -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Standby Generators
It's an air cooled two cylinder model (13 kW NG, 15 kW LP). I think the model number is 04390-3. I bought it in late 2005 or early 2006 through an electrician as part of a remodel/addition job to my 1854 house near Raleigh NC. It cost about $3500 as I recall. I have a sub-panel (fed from the transfer switch) that powers most of the house. Ironically, the very frequent power outages almost totally stopped after I got the generator. Thanks for all the insight on these things. The controls on mine are quite primitive but they work well enough. The speed control is a simple mechanical governor and the voltage regulator looks analog. Nothing that would intimidate a shade-tree mechanic. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Standby Generators I would have to know more. Is it air cooled or water cooled? Where was it purchased? Model number? In fairness, the one thing that Generac has done right that no one else in the business has done is make a decent product for the consumer market. Their small standby units marketed through Home Despot and Lowe's are actually pretty decent for the money spent, and have a fairly high level of reliability. The other folks, such as Kohler and Onan, have tried to tap this market unsuccessfully for years. They can't make a highly commoditied? product because they're so deeply involved in the commercial market. Trying to make a generator based on price point rather than design is nigh impossible. Kohler's current and recent offerings, in my opinion, are too highly engineered and rely far too much on electronics. Their controls are microprocessor based and use proprietary software and hardware. If something acts up or breaks, you're screwed. Sadly, many consumers don't discover this until it's too late and they're stuck with a very expensive repair bill or a large expensive lawn ornament. Generac is an engineering house rather than a manufacturer. They design stuff themselves and base their production on volume, which is so far from what the others do it's an alien concept. That's why everything says Generac on it - it's someone else's product, like Briggs or Tecumseh, with Generac's exterior design for things like cooling. Case in point is the 25kW unit I got for nothing and fixed for $40. It had a Mitsubishi gas industrial engine that was never marketed in the US. Generac bought the long blocks directly from Mitsubishi and added all the peripheral parts such as fuel, drive and mounting. When the coil in the distributor failed (a system much like GM's HEI) the only fix was an assembly replacement - a new distributor - to the tune of $1600 for the part alone. With travel time, mileage and labor all wrapped up in that repair, it exceeded 50% of the cost of a new unit. The owner bought a new unit and we took the old one back. I did some research and found that the engine was common in Asia and Oceania, so I got a hold of John in Australia and he got me the coil - for a whopping $40 US shipped! This is the risk with the Generac product, but as far as the consumer stuff, parts are common and plentiful, so that's not an issue. Dan --- On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Dan, I have a Generac propane standby generator, about 15KW. The engine says Generac on it but I suspect it's really made by someone else. Do you know? By the way, the only time it failed to start was caused by a dead battery. The 100 amp transfer switch is a knife-blade design so I suppose it could stick if it hasn't operated in a long time. There is a manual override but I don't think I'd want to open the box in a bad storm. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Factory Manuals?
I have the 123 CDs somewhere, I guess that would cover the 85? --R On 8/11/13 7:50 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: hi! where can i get my hands on a factory manual for an '85 300D (Cal)? cheers! e On 09/Aug/13 12:24, Dave Cavner wrote: Section 77 of the MB factory manual is very helpful in understanding the what, where and how of the sliding roof assembly. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 72 300SEL
It was very quick and responsive, and the air suspension was awesome. It had a Crane breakerless ignition; starting the car was like flipping a light switch. IIRC I had to replace the trigger points and air bags (to pass inspection) but nothing else of a major nature. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Andrew wrote: I had a national MBCA concours-winning tobacco brown 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan... Did you enjoy that 3.5? I have always heard that was one of the better fast engines made. Over-square is the term Stu Ritter gave that engine. High rev? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Finally, a photo of my 240D
What's the diff between avocado and pea soup green? The taste! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jabba key parts
Wait a minute here, how many keys did you give me when I bought the 300CD?? Let me think, was it 1? You got every key _I_ got with it! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice 72 300SEL
How did it win a Concours with an aftermarket ignition? Allan Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: It was very quick and responsive, and the air suspension was awesome. It had a Crane breakerless ignition; starting the car was like flipping a light switch. IIRC I had to replace the trigger points and air bags (to pass inspection) but nothing else of a major nature. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Andrew wrote: I had a national MBCA concours-winning tobacco brown 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan... Did you enjoy that 3.5? I have always heard that was one of the better fast engines made. Over-square is the term Stu Ritter gave that engine. High rev? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Standby Generators
Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com writes: Ironically, the very frequent power outages almost totally stopped after I got the generator. Sounds like the rule that if you have a spare part on hand, that part will never fail! Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
