Re: [newbie-it] partizioni
osvaldo wrote: ciao a tutti, volevo chiedervi un consiglio: mi sono comprato un HD 20G nuovo volevo partizionare l'HD in due, in modo da poter utilizzare su una met mandrake e sull'altra provare qualche altra distribuzione (mi hanno regalato suse)...immagino che sia possibile...no? i miei dubbi riguardano la scrittura il boot dei vari sistemi operativi installati (w98, mandr ed, eventualmente, suse)... Il grub di Mandrake-7.[1o2] e` tranquillamente in grado di gestirti tutti i sistemi operativi che vuoi. Gli ho fatto gestire w98 e NT su un disco e tre distro Linux sull'altro. Non so che versione di lilo abbia SuSE (o se usi anche lei grub) se e` lilo-21.4 o precedente, avrai problemi (dovuti al BIOS) a avviare piu` distribuzioni su un disco da 20G. In quel caso lascia il controllo al grub di Mandrake che non risente (come lilo-21.5) di questa limitazione del BIOS. Non conosco boot magic. ciao, Andrea PS non hai problemi di spazio. comunque tieni presente che la partizione di swap puo` (senza accorgimenti particolari) essere la stessa per tutte le distro Linux che installi.
[newbie-it] configurazione masterizzatore
Ho recentemente installato Mandrake 7.2 su un Pentium III 450. Al termine dell'installazione il sistema vedeve regolarmente il masterizzatore ide Waitec e l'altro cdrom utilizzato per la lettura. Dopo aver settato la scheda audio Sb 16 (non riconosciuta automaticamente ma manualmente utilizzando soundconfig ) il sistema mi segnala che è cambiato qualcosa nella configurazione e non vede più il masterizzatore impedendomi dientrare e settare opportunamenteX-Cd-Roast. Cosa può essere successo ? Premetto che sono un principiante e non ho la minima idea su come risolvere il problema. Un grazie anticipato. Adolfo
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dopo un black-out il mio sistema linux mdrk 7.2 non sia avvia pi dicendo /dev/hda6:unexpected inconsistency, run fsck manually (i.e.,without-a or-p options) e ora ?che f?
[newbie-it] Tradurre
Ciao a tutti! Mi sarebbe utile un'applicazione in grado di effettuare traduzioni da una lingua all'altra su testi completi, non singole parole; cosa posso trovare per il Pinguino? Grazie Corrado
[newbie-it] Funzionamento kmid.
Ciao, ho un problema con l'uso di kmid, un tool per ascoltare file midi. Quando cerco di sentirne uno mi compare una finestra con su scritto Couldn't open /dev/sequencer Probably there is another program using it Se faccio ps -ux tra gli altri processi attivi compaiono ... alberto661 0.0 2.4 6672 3184 ?S08:24 0:00 kaudioserver alberto662 0.0 3.1 6580 4052 ?S08:24 0:00 kwmsound alberto671 0.2 2.3 6692 3044 ?S08:24 0:05 maudio -media 0 ... Suggerimenti ? Grazie anticipate, Alberto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Leaving
Hi folks, I have to leave the list. I've had a lot of fun here, and learnt a big lot, but the amount of mail we all generate is becoming too much for me to handle. THanks for all the help and advice, and keep it Linux! Paul
[newbie] Matlab
Hello! In my jod there is Matlab for Linux, other persons in my office use with RedHat 6.2 7.0 and SUSE 6.4 7.0, I use LM 7.2 and i cann't use matlab. When i try to use sumilink appears the message /usr/local/matlab/bin/lnx86/matlab: can't resolve symbol 'dlopen' Help me M.C. Manuel Moises Miranda Velasco. CICESE research center Ensenada Mexico.
RE: [newbie] local lan problem
No, i cannot ping from either of the win 98 machines to the linux box, nor from linux to the windows machines but i can ping from one windows machine to another one fine. Ian K. Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Istvan Bereti Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] local lan problem Hi, Can you ping from the win98 the network card of the Linux? ping ipaddr. And also vica - versa... BR, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fireman71 Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] local lan problem Trying to setup a linux machine as a firewall and web server on a lan for a friend of mine. He also wants the linux machine to handle IP masqing. Installed LM7.1 on a HP Vectra series 5 machine that he had purchased off the internet to use specifically for Linux. We then put a realtek 8029 PCI network card in, installed LM7.1 and all appeared to be good in the world, until Trying to access anything on the local net is impossible. 100% packet loss, etc, etc. Currently on the lan there are two other machines both running windows 98 and then the LM7.1 machine. Both of the windows machines can see and talk to each other fine but they cant see the linux box. I double and triple checked all the system settings and everything seemed to be fine. Drakconf detected the network card, linuxconf showed that all the values i had entered for IP Addy, netmask, etc were fine. Thinking this might have been caused by a bad cable we tried three other cables with no results and also tried every free spot on the hub with a known good cable from one of the windows machines just to make sure that there wasnt a bad connection or something in the hub. During bootup it shows that eth0 is starting up ok and ifconfig reports that everything seems to be there and working fine as far as i can tell. I am completely lost at what to do to fix this problem and would appreciate any and all advice. One thing i did notice was that when the cable was unplugged from the network card in the linux box or the hub the light on the card showing that the network connection was present went off as you would expect it to. When we plugged the cable back into the hub or the card it returned just like everything was working normally. On the hub side the light never did come on showing that there was a connection. The hub is listed as being *nix compatable and I am using a similar realtek 8029 card in another linux machine at my own home with no problems. Linux machine info in case this helps... HP Vectra Series 5 P133 CPU 16M RAM 2.5Gig HD Realtek 8029 SB AWE16 Generic noname (as far as i can find) SVGA video card Fresh install of Linux Mandrake 7.1 Many thanks in advance, Ian K. Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
have you checked out this? http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Tutorial/CDburner/ Its for 7.2 but the principal is the same. In fact I also suggest that you update to 7.2. It is truly a beautiful thing ;-) Abe Vic wrote: I can't find it, is there anyone on this list who can find this info please. I am asking all subscribers who might have a clue please. Thank you and much appreciuated to those woh can give me the into On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 16 January 2001 09:23 pm, Vic wrote: Ok I concede. how I do to get this dangbusted stupid cd recorder to work??? Is there a kludge or a hack?? Please just tell me what to type and I will do it. I am using mandrake 7.0-2 Yes, I'm afraid there is a kludge with 7.0, solved with 7.1 and perfected with 7.2. there was a fix/tutorial on Mandrakes web page, but it's no longer there. Best I can remember it had to do with the needed "append=ide-scsi" linked wrong. Is that broken and can't use cdrecorder? I have a Plextor W8432T and kernel 2.2.14-15mdk will it work or am I screwed? no, if you can find the fix, that's the best damn CD-RW with any OS. I have AMD K6 400 64Mb sysram I can mount the drive on /dev/hdd as a cdrom, but I already have a cdrom so thats no good as a recorder. that's the way to do it. My Cdrom is hdc, my Plex 8432t is hdd. Here's the deal, search for the 7.0-CDRW fix, it's just a simple 'ln -s something havin to do with linking the hdd as ide to hdd as scuzzy, scd0 Sorry, I just can't remember. Try the mailing list archives, or email Mandrake. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] Help with Matlab
Hello! In my jod there is Matlab 5.1 for Linux, other persons in my office use with RedHat 6.2 7.0 and SUSE 6.4 7.0, I use LM 7.2 and i cann't use matlab. When i try to use sumilink appears the message /usr/local/matlab/bin/lnx86/matlab: can't resolve symbol 'dlopen' Help me M.C. Manuel Moises Miranda Velasco. CICESE research center Ensenada Mexico. .
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Re: [newbie] Leaving
Bya Paul. Come back soon! Paul wrote: Hi folks, I have to leave the list. I've had a lot of fun here, and learnt a big lot, but the amount of mail we all generate is becoming too much for me to handle. THanks for all the help and advice, and keep it Linux! Paul
Re: [newbie] Piece of )(*(*^ Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:17:21 -0600, Vic said: I'm getting ()*(*^% off.!! this is not a challenge it is an impossibility!! Same f@#$@#$% ing trash over and over again. Vic, Settle down, take a few deep breaths, and short walk in the woods, But not neccasarily in that order. My next few comments are not intended to be demeaning - ok? I'm getting on a bit now but I, like you, am learning more and more everyday I climb into Linux as you will too. It's important to take one step at a time at this early stage. It's also important to readup as much as you can - there is an emense volume of info out there. There are several very good websites to look thru and two of the best (my view) are: http://www.Linuxnewbie.org and http://www.MandrakeUser.org Both of these sites have heaps of very helpful information on them. and you should take the time to peruse them - ok? = Right then. I've come late into this thread, I haven't been following your tribulations, but it would appear you are have difficulty getting your cdrom(s) recognised. Question #1 - which distribution are you using? Question #2 - How many CDROM drives do you have? Question #3 - are you able to READ from either drive yet? I'm happy to try and help you from here (16 hours into your future), however Tom Brinkman is one of the most useful help utilities you have right nor right here on the list - take note on EVERYTHING he has to say regardless of the subject - you'll run into these things I promise!! (Apoligies to Tom!!) Email me direct if you wish - I'll try to help. Cheers John -- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)
Re: [newbie] Piece of )(*(*^ Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:17:21 -0600, Vic said: I'm getting ()*(*^% off.!! this is not a challenge it is an impossibility!! Same f@#$@#$% ing trash over and over again. Vic, Settle down, take a few deep breaths, and short walk in the woods, But not neccasarily in that order. My next few comments are not intended to be demeaning - ok? I'm getting on a bit now but I, like you, am learning more and more everyday I climb into Linux as you will too. It's important to take one step at a time at this early stage. It's also important to readup as much as you can - there is an emense volume of info out there. There are several very good websites to look thru and two of the best (my view) are: http://www.Linuxnewbie.org and http://www.MandrakeUser.org Both of these sites have heaps of very helpful information on them. and you should take the time to peruse them - ok? = Right then. I've come late into this thread, I haven't been following your tribulations, but it would appear you are have difficulty getting your cdrom(s) recognised. Question #1 - which distribution are you using? Question #2 - How many CDROM drives do you have? Question #3 - are you able to READ from either drive yet? I'm happy to try and help you from here (16 hours into your future), however Tom Brinkman is one of the most useful help utilities you have right nor right here on the list - take note on EVERYTHING he has to say regardless of the subject - you'll run into these things I promise!! (Apoligies to Tom!!) Email me direct if you wish - I'll try to help. Cheers John -- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)
Re: [newbie] Piece of )(*(*^ Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:17:21 -0600, Vic said: I'm getting ()*(*^% off.!! this is not a challenge it is an impossibility!! Same f@#$@#$% ing trash over and over again. Vic, Settle down, take a few deep breaths, and short walk in the woods, But not neccasarily in that order. My next few comments are not intended to be demeaning - ok? I'm getting on a bit now but I, like you, am learning more and more everyday I climb into Linux as you will too. It's important to take one step at a time at this early stage. It's also important to readup as much as you can - there is an emense volume of info out there. There are several very good websites to look thru and two of the best (my view) are: http://www.Linuxnewbie.org and http://www.MandrakeUser.org Both of these sites have heaps of very helpful information on them. and you should take the time to peruse them - ok? = Right then. I've come late into this thread, I haven't been following your tribulations, but it would appear you are have difficulty getting your cdrom(s) recognised. Question #1 - which distribution are you using? Question #2 - How many CDROM drives do you have? Question #3 - are you able to READ from either drive yet? I'm happy to try and help you from here (16 hours into your future), however Tom Brinkman is one of the most useful help utilities you have right nor right here on the list - take note on EVERYTHING he has to say regardless of the subject - you'll run into these things I promise!! (Apoligies to Tom!!) Email me direct if you wish - I'll try to help. Cheers John -- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)
Re: [newbie] Piece of )(*(*^ Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:17:21 -0600, Vic said: I'm getting ()*(*^% off.!! this is not a challenge it is an impossibility!! Same f@#$@#$% ing trash over and over again. Vic, Settle down, take a few deep breaths, and short walk in the woods, But not neccasarily in that order. My next few comments are not intended to be demeaning - ok? I'm getting on a bit now but I, like you, am learning more and more everyday I climb into Linux as you will too. It's important to take one step at a time at this early stage. It's also important to readup as much as you can - there is an emense volume of info out there. There are several very good websites to look thru and two of the best (my view) are: http://www.Linuxnewbie.org and http://www.MandrakeUser.org Both of these sites have heaps of very helpful information on them. and you should take the time to peruse them - ok? = Right then. I've come late into this thread, I haven't been following your tribulations, but it would appear you are have difficulty getting your cdrom(s) recognised. Question #1 - which distribution are you using? Question #2 - How many CDROM drives do you have? Question #3 - are you able to READ from either drive yet? I'm happy to try and help you from here (16 hours into your future), however Tom Brinkman is one of the most useful help utilities you have right nor right here on the list - take note on EVERYTHING he has to say regardless of the subject - you'll run into these things I promise!! (Apoligies to Tom!!) Email me direct if you wish - I'll try to help. Cheers John -- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)
Re: [newbie] Piece of )(*(*^ Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:17:21 -0600, Vic said: I'm getting ()*(*^% off.!! this is not a challenge it is an impossibility!! Same f@#$@#$% ing trash over and over again. Vic, Settle down, take a few deep breaths, and short walk in the woods, But not neccasarily in that order. My next few comments are not intended to be demeaning - ok? I'm getting on a bit now but I, like you, am learning more and more everyday I climb into Linux as you will too. It's important to take one step at a time at this early stage. It's also important to readup as much as you can - there is an emense volume of info out there. There are several very good websites to look thru and two of the best (my view) are: http://www.Linuxnewbie.org and http://www.MandrakeUser.org Both of these sites have heaps of very helpful information on them. and you should take the time to peruse them - ok? = Right then. I've come late into this thread, I haven't been following your tribulations, but it would appear you are have difficulty getting your cdrom(s) recognised. Question #1 - which distribution are you using? Question #2 - How many CDROM drives do you have? Question #3 - are you able to READ from either drive yet? I'm happy to try and help you from here (16 hours into your future), however Tom Brinkman is one of the most useful help utilities you have right nor right here on the list - take note on EVERYTHING he has to say regardless of the subject - you'll run into these things I promise!! (Apoligies to Tom!!) Email me direct if you wish - I'll try to help. Cheers John -- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)
Re: [newbie] Piece of )(*(*^ Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On 17 Jan 2001 22:30:31 NZDT, John Rye said: Four Times he did !! FOUR times!! My apologies for your indulgencences John -- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)
[newbie] Sendmail/PHP/Apache
Greetings salutations newbie, Hi... trying to run php/apache/sendmail together in the form of using a phpfunction called mail() which uses sendmail to send mail to a specified address. Apache is working, PHP is working, Sendmail is working (separately), since apache is running as user/grp nobody i tried executing the script as nobody as it would from the website and got the following response: Can't create transcript file ./xff0H9mP200670: Permission denied anyone got any solutions to my problem... if I run the script as root it works, but not when I run it as nobody... -- May the lilys of peace rest in your armpits, Mattias Quote of the day: "MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years of careful development." (By [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [newbie] KDE or Gnome
Tom; You did read my entire post , right? Did you catch the rest of my message? Please don't make assumptions about my preferences. As I stated, it is the most similar to Windows, and therefore more likely to cause tension with first-timers. Once they gain a level of confidence with Linux and KDE, they'll be more likely to try the other desktop environments and experiment on their own. You are interested in promoting Linux aren't you? It certainly is a nice improvement and change from Windows! I'd like to see a lot more people using it, that's for sure! I just offerred the suggestion that KDE would make it easier for new Linux users to make the transition. So, far, I've managed to switch about 137 users (Including all the staff at the office I work at), and KDE made it a lot easier to do that. If it got the job done, I wouldn't care if they were permanently working in a console, but KDE get's the job done nicely. Personally, I don't use it if I don't have to. I trust that clears this misunderstanding up? Please don't make judgements or assumptions about people you know nothing about. Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "Tom Brinkman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE or Gnome On Tuesday 16 January 2001 07:52 pm, Dan LaBine wrote: Just a thought here, but wouldn't it be incredibly wise of us to suggest and promote KDE as a prefferred desktop environment? Don't get me wrong, I don't actually have a preference of my own, == from the looks of your header it's apparent you do: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_000_0067_01C07FFE.3F86E640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Please don't post using HTML. There's another issue here too. The biggest reason to use Linux, prob'ly has to be it's safety when properly used. Connecting to the Internet with any M$ product is akin to goin skippin in the wind naked. No matter what you do, posting and receiving email, newsgroups, surfing the web, you'd be better off with security set to 'welcome to crackers', running as 'root', with no firewall or sentry on the net while using Linux. 'Specially if you insist on using anything but plain text. Ever hear of a Linux user catching the 'I love you' virus? Nope? 'Nough said. == FWIW, desktop windows are on the same level as politics and religion, and Ford/Chevy/Toyota as far as 'which' goes. On that note, after using Red Hat/AfterStep for a while, I tried a few other distros, mainly Slack. I don't remember the WM, it might've also been afterstep. Then (I was dual booting then too), I d/l'd phatlinux which runs on a Windoze partition in a loopback (one big ol' file). At the time Phat was Mandrake 6.0 with KDE. I soon sent for the 'real' Mandrake 6.0 CD's, slapped a second HDD in, and have been runnin Mandrake/KDE ever since. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] modules dont get installed
hiho, im running into strange things here, i compiled a 2.4.0 kernel, then made "make dep", "make bzImage", "make modules" and "make modules_install". upon "make modules_install" i can see linux entering all the modules dirs in /usr/src/linux/drivers/ telling me "nothing to be done for modules_install". and thats the point.linux builds all the modules..but i doesnt install them in the corresponding directories ! can somebody give a hint on this ?.i ve compiled kernels several times now...this isnt the first one, but there has never happened a thing like this..cant imagine what i could have done wrong--- greetings --quay -- -Quaylar- Icq# 30932448 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Knowledge is power
Re: [newbie] KDE or Gnome
Correction; LEAST Likely to cause tension with first-timers. My Bad! Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "Dan LaBine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE or Gnome Tom; You did read my entire post , right? Did you catch the rest of my message? Please don't make assumptions about my preferences. As I stated, it is the most similar to Windows, and therefore more likely to cause tension with first-timers. Once they gain a level of confidence with Linux and KDE, they'll be more likely to try the other desktop environments and experiment on their own. You are interested in promoting Linux aren't you? It certainly is a nice improvement and change from Windows! I'd like to see a lot more people using it, that's for sure! I just offerred the suggestion that KDE would make it easier for new Linux users to make the transition. So, far, I've managed to switch about 137 users (Including all the staff at the office I work at), and KDE made it a lot easier to do that. If it got the job done, I wouldn't care if they were permanently working in a console, but KDE get's the job done nicely. Personally, I don't use it if I don't have to. I trust that clears this misunderstanding up? Please don't make judgements or assumptions about people you know nothing about. Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "Tom Brinkman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE or Gnome On Tuesday 16 January 2001 07:52 pm, Dan LaBine wrote: Just a thought here, but wouldn't it be incredibly wise of us to suggest and promote KDE as a prefferred desktop environment? Don't get me wrong, I don't actually have a preference of my own, == from the looks of your header it's apparent you do: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_000_0067_01C07FFE.3F86E640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Please don't post using HTML. There's another issue here too. The biggest reason to use Linux, prob'ly has to be it's safety when properly used. Connecting to the Internet with any M$ product is akin to goin skippin in the wind naked. No matter what you do, posting and receiving email, newsgroups, surfing the web, you'd be better off with security set to 'welcome to crackers', running as 'root', with no firewall or sentry on the net while using Linux. 'Specially if you insist on using anything but plain text. Ever hear of a Linux user catching the 'I love you' virus? Nope? 'Nough said. == FWIW, desktop windows are on the same level as politics and religion, and Ford/Chevy/Toyota as far as 'which' goes. On that note, after using Red Hat/AfterStep for a while, I tried a few other distros, mainly Slack. I don't remember the WM, it might've also been afterstep. Then (I was dual booting then too), I d/l'd phatlinux which runs on a Windoze partition in a loopback (one big ol' file). At the time Phat was Mandrake 6.0 with KDE. I soon sent for the 'real' Mandrake 6.0 CD's, slapped a second HDD in, and have been runnin Mandrake/KDE ever since. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] Slow computer with MD 7.2
Hi all! I have just download the MD 7.2 and installed it om my computer. It's a Asus AV7, AMD 1000MHz, 256MB Ram, 3 Harddrives. I magages to get the ATA100 to work, but it s l o w. It takes log time before the program starts and it takes log time to start the computer. I did run MD 6 or 7 before, but my grafic card wasn't supported (asus 7100, gefore2 MX). And tha was working fine, exept for I just got 640*480 :-) Any suggestions? Regards Niklas Blomquist
Re: [newbie] I'm completely lost
Ralph , can't help right now , but i'll try to e-mail tonight (17/01/01) with help. Meantime send info on your system. Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ralph Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:29 AM Subject: [newbie] I'm completely lost I've been tinkering with this Linux for some time, but I still don't understand it at all. I've read the posts on this message board (All 150+) every day, but everyone's completely out of my league with their responses. I have Mandrake Linux (I think 6.2). I managed to get it up and running, I can even connect to the internet. I have no idea how I did it. I am trying to get my sound card and NIC card to work. I downloaded some files that are supposed to be the drivers. They're in tar.gz format. I've gunzipped them, and even tarred them. I have a bunch of files now, and I have no idea what to do with them. There's an Adobe PDF with one of them. I downloaded the latest version of Acrobat to read it. It makes no sense. When I log out of KDE (Or any other GUI) I often lose my mouse. The cursor goes to the extreme upper right corner, and I can't do squat after that. All I can do is hit Reset. The computer's not locked up, but it won't let me do anything when I return to the GUI. I would imagine there was a command that could be executed which would activate the mouse again. Is there anyone out there willing to do some one-on-one tutoring, and help someone who's really really trying?
Re: [newbie] I'm completely lost
Steve; Here's a few things to try. I haven't been following your thread (conversation topic) enough to know everything you've tried, but here goes. If we look at the basics, your problem may be video-related. Assuming that this is the case, check your video card itself, and see if it has jumpers on it to enable/disable IRQ. Having done that, check your BIOS to confirm that the setting in the BIOS is the same as the jumper on your video card. If your card doesn't have a jumper for the IRQ, try assigning one in the BIOS. If it's already assigned in the BIOS, disable it. In other words, try a few different combinations. Also, check to see if "Plu 'n' Play is enabled in your BIOS (PnP/PCI Configuration). If so, disable it. That can make a big difference by itself. If possible could you please send me a list of your hardware? Video card, Monitor, mouse, motherboard, ram and CPU? That would help a lot. One last thing, Have you considered upgrading to Linux-Mandrake 7.2? You can download it for free from their web-site, but a high-speed connection is reccommended. Get back to me on this. Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "Steve Maytum" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] I'm completely lost Ralph , can't help right now , but i'll try to e-mail tonight (17/01/01) with help. Meantime send info on your system. Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ralph Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:29 AM Subject: [newbie] I'm completely lost I've been tinkering with this Linux for some time, but I still don't understand it at all. I've read the posts on this message board (All 150+) every day, but everyone's completely out of my league with their responses. I have Mandrake Linux (I think 6.2). I managed to get it up and running , I can even connect to the internet. I have no idea how I did it. I am trying to get my sound card and NIC card to work. I downloaded some files that are supposed to be the drivers. They're in tar.gz format. I've gunzipped them, and even tarred them. I have a bunch of files now, and I have no idea what to do with them. There's an Adobe PDF with one of them. I downloaded the latest version of Acrobat to read it. It makes no sense. When I log out of KDE (Or any other GUI) I often lose my mouse. The cursor goes to the extreme upper right corner, and I can't do squat after that. All I can do is hit Reset. The computer's not locked up, but it won't let me do anything when I return to the GUI. I would imagine there was a command that could be executed which would activate the mouse again. Is there anyone out there willing to do some one-on-one tutoring, and help someone who's really really trying?
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Tuesday 16 January 2001 22:23, you wrote: Ok I concede. how I do to get this dangbusted stupid cd recorder to work??? Is there a kludge or a hack?? Please just tell me what to type and I will do it. I am using mandrake 7.0-2 Is that broken and can't use cdrecorder? I have a Plextor W8432T and kernel 2.2.14-15mdk will it work or am I screwed? I have AMD K6 400 64Mb sysram I can mount the drive on /dev/hdd as a cdrom, but I already have a cdrom so thats no good as a recorder. Do all of the following as root add a line that looks like append=" hdd=ide-scsi" to the correct stanza in /etc/lilo.conf then execute /sbin/lilo next add the following lines to the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local modprobe ide-scsi modprob sg now reboot, you should be able to access your cdwriter on /dev/scd0 if this works, edit your /etc/fstab to reflect this, and try writing a cd. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] x3270
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 01:43, you wrote: On Wednesday 17 January 2001 12:00 am, Carl Lafferty wrote: A friend of mine not on the list yet (she teaches a great deal of the time) has some problems with x3270. on my 7.2 install I can use it to connect just fine but everytime she tries to run it it says "internal reconfiguration error" It works on my 7.2 install, If she is having problems try uninstalling x3270 reinstalling it, something might be missing. If that does not work, try rebuilding the binary rpm from the source rpm and reinstalling that one. It might be some sort of library mismatch. Me either and i don't even know her. What's a 'x3270' ? Sort of like an xterm, but it emulates a tn3270 for IBM big iron boxes. OK, I did a google on it out'a curiousity, and their homepage says if you don't know what it is ... you don't need one http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/7814/ . damn this list is fun ; -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] pppd Not Working
At 16-01-2001 +1300, you wrote: Hi! Just installed LM 7.2 but can't get the pppd working. How do I set it up? Under Windows 2000 the modem is in COM4. In LM 7.2 it is /dev/modem. Is this right? FYI, com4 in Win2K is /dev/ttyS3 in Linux, it is Big S.
Re: [newbie] Halt Command
At 16-01-2001 +1300, you wrote: Hi! Running LM 7.2. The system reboots ok but when I issue the 'halt' command it hangs up and errors/segmentation faults appear. What is causing this? Thanks! IIRC, the command is : shutdown -h now for immediate shutdown.
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 05:30, you wrote: Thank you, but I just installed the cdrecorder, and not during install. kudzu then came up on the next boot, saw your cd-redorder and offered to configure it? Civileme I did the scsi link, what I need to know Ii guess is how do I load the ide-scsi module and make it connect to the scsi chain what is already present that supports the zip drive which is scsi. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Dennis Myers wrote: Vic , take a look at the tutorial on the Linux-Mandrake site, the one that deals with cdwriters. If you have'nt already. I think the scsi link needs to be made and some errors corrected that were done on install. Not yours but the OS. Sorry if you have already done this then I am at a lose as to the problem. -- Dennis M. Registered Linux user #180842
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 06:57, you wrote: I can't find it, is there anyone on this list who can find this info please. I am asking all subscribers who might have a clue please. Thank you and much appreciuated to those woh can give me the into Vic-- let's see ls -l /dev/cd* cat /boot/grub/menu.lst cat /etc/lilo.conf cat /proc/modules #after you have modprobed in ide-scsi cat /etc/fstab And try booting with the CDROM disconected using modprobe and scanbus And try booting with the ZIP disconnected using modprobe and scanbus Then get back to us Civileme
RE: [newbie] VPN Client software
FWIW, A company called Netmax makes a Linux based VPN out of the box. They clain it can be up and running in about 15mins. It cost $499 :( But if you can get work to pay for it it may be worth the money. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] VPN Client software Maybe nobody else here has been able to both figure out the how to's and get it to work? That wouldn't be too surprising on a Newbie list. FWIW, I have successfully setup VPN on NT Servers, and clients on Win/95, Win/98 (1 machine unsuccessful, even reloaded - I refuse to pay M$ $245 to help, screw that machine), and Win/2000. With Linux, I tried to read the VPN how to and mini how to a week ago, figuring to use it to connect to a site I was having problems connecting to with a Win/98 machine, and after a few hours of reading, decided I didn't have the time to get Linux VPN capability as complex as it looked. Maybe its just that the M$ stuff is simplistic or something, options wise, but it was nowhere near as daunting to figure out how to set it up. If anyone actually gets a Linux VPN client to connect and work on an NT Server, please post what software versions are running and what options are set to on the server and client so as to provide a trail of crumbs for those of us unable to sort it all out and make sense of it. It makes me feel better that it wasn't just me. Sorry I had no solution to offer... BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:53 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] VPN Client software I've been beating my head against this one for a while. No one here has responded to my VPN questions. My problem is that I have to connect to a VPN server running W2K. Consequently, it's my impression that I have to do PPTP because that's how MS VPN server operates. Check out: www.freeswan.org http://neurosis.hungry.com/~ben/software/pptp.html and of course the VPN HOW-TOs If you can, let me know if you get this working... -Original Message- From: Wignall, Mark T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] VPN Client software Greets Penguin-Pals! Looking for something similar to NT2000's built in feature to VPN to our corporate network. Commercia/Share/Freeware are all fine. I'm NOT looking to do ssh/PPTP if I don't have to. I also, don't want to run linux masquerading if I don't have to as both my machines at home NT and Linux, each have their own static IP's, so don't see the need. Can any of you guru's out there help me out? TIA, __ Mark T. Wignall MES Database Administrator Xerox Corporation Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (503) 685-3071 (Office) (503) 703-9383 (Cell) (503) 599-6213 (Pager)
[newbie] Partition Query
The following is my /dev/hda partition layout: Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 527 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart End BlocksId System /dev/hda1 * 1 192 1542208+6 FAT16 /dev/hda2 193527 2690887+5 Extended /dev/hda5 193287 763056- 6 FAT16 /dev/hda6 288319 257008+6 FAT16 /dev/hda7 320421 819283+ 83 Linux /dev/hda8 422527 851413+ 83 Linux The drive was/is set as win95, sharedata0, sharedata1, user2 and user3. eg: c:\ d:\ e:\ /usr2/usr3 I had need to use Windows for the first time in several months!! and noted during the boot that Drive E had an error. Drive E should have been the partition I called sharedata1 above but this chunk was assigned to Drive F. Somewhat confused, I went looking about for a chunk of non-partitioned drive-space - nothing came to light until I gave up and returned to Linux and ran the Linux fdisk util which gave me table above. How is that /dev/hda1 'looks normal', /dev/hda2 appears to contain all of the other /dev/hdax's. Is there a way of setting this up so that the first 3 partitions are all FAT16 and the other two are Linux partitions, hopefully without losing /usr2 and /usr3. I have no problem losing the Windows stuff, but I have a great deal of valuable data in the 2 usr chunks, which are 'inside' of an 'extended' partition, and no sensible backup media/system for Linux (yet) Cheers John -- Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" (The UNIX Programmers' Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972)
Re: [newbie] Is the Korn shell freeware?
that's what I was talking about. thanks Tom. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 16 January 2001 07:39 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: I'm a little ignorant here but very curious. What is the "korn shell"? http://www.kornshell.com/ excerpt "The KornShell language was designed and developed by David G. Korn at ATT Bell Laboratories. It is an interactive command language that provides access to the UNIX system and to many other systems, on the many different computers and workstations on which it is implemented. The KornShell language is also a complete, powerful, high-level programming language for writing applications, often more easily and quickly than with other high-level languages. This makes it especially suitable for prototyping. There are two other widely used shells, the Bourne shell developed by Steven Bourne at ATT Bell Laboratories, and the C shell developed by Bill Joy at the University of California. ksh has the best features of both, plus many new features of its own. Thus ksh can do much to enhance your productivity and the quality of your work, both in interacting with the system, and in programming. ksh programs are easier to write, and are more concise and readable than programs written in a lower level language such as C. . " bash (Bourne Again SHell) is still the standard tho ;
Re: [newbie] Is the Korn shell freeware?
Um...thankyou, but I'm very familiar with "what" a shell is having been an avid Linux user for 2 years now. Maybe I should have been a little more clear in my query. What is a "Korn" shell? As in, what is this particular shell program like and what are it's attributes? How does it perform and behave and stack up against Konsole, xterm, and so on? -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, [X-UNKNOWN] Peña Arellano Fabian Erasmo wrote: Hi, I don't know much either, but I can tell you what I know. A shell is the command interpreter people use to tell Linux to do things. When we see the "shell" prompt: [fabian@axolotl fabian]$ we know the system is waiting for the user to tell it to do something. Different shells have different sets of commands, but share many of them as well. I guess some shells are better than others to acomplish certain tasks. Linux-Mandrake has several shells a user can pick up from as his/her defaul shell. You can see the bash a user has in Userdrake -- Options -- Preferences; or by typing "echo $SHELL" without the quotes in the "shell prompt". The Korn shell is one out of the many shells there are, but is not included --as far as I know-- in the Mandrake 7.2 installation. I recall reading that for know the most of the linux distributions include the Bash shell as the default one. This is not much information, but you can read that in any book about Linux or Unix. Greetings from Mexico. Fabian. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Mark Weaver wrote: I'm a little ignorant here but very curious. What is the "korn shell"?
[newbie] win2K and ML7.2
Hi, I wanna know if somebody could install win2K and LM7.2 on the same hard disk. I couldn't yet. I made the following: (30 HB HD) 1- I partition the disc in one FAT32 unit, and leave the rest of the disc free 2- I installed win2K on this partition (FAT32) , without any other extra option (Is there any option not to install the win2K boot manager?) 3- I installed LM7.2 on the rest of the disc , without any other extra option than lilo boot manager 4- I thought the lilo must work well and lilo would overwrite the W2K boot manager, but it didn't happen. My matchine started with a black screen with the "S" in each part of the screen. How can I install these Systems in the same hard disc?
RE: [newbie] dual boot help
Boot with you Linux boot disk. That will get you into 7.2. Then, as root open the console. Goto /boot/grub and type ./install.sh You may have to change the permissions too. If that is the case, just use chmod to modify the permissions. This will restore the boot loader. Problem solved! Oh, and BTW Lin4Win Is a waste of time. Hope this helps! Chris Kelly --- Men are from Earth Women are from Earth Deal with it... -Original Message- From: Michael Cooke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] dual boot help I've been struggling with a dual boot installation of second gen win98 and Mandrake7.2. I understand that 7.2 may be a beta release? Anyhow, when I have the dual boot setup and have Mandrake Linux 7.2 running happily - The windows 98se is frought with problems - applications freezing or not starting, games not playing, cdr being unreliable..etc. I'm an end-user: so I use McAffe utilities on windows98se - and Windows gets better! Unfortunately, now Lilo isn't working and I now no longer can boot into Linux Mandrake -only windows- on restart. Should I be using the Lin4Win product and allow Windows to monopolize my machine? (333mhz intel P2, 128mg ram, 6 and 18 gig hardrives) Is another version of Windows friendlier with Lilo and Linux? Is there a way I can make a boot floppy to access my Linux partition now I no longer can boot to it? (I do need widows to run many programs I've become very accustomed to: Dreamweaver, photoshop, illustrator, flash...) Thank you for help and advice. Mike Cooke = __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Leaving
sorry to see you go Paul - come back and visit every now and then ! philomena Paul wrote: Hi folks, I have to leave the list. I've had a lot of fun here, and learnt a big lot, but the amount of mail we all generate is becoming too much for me to handle. THanks for all the help and advice, and keep it Linux! Paul
Re: [newbie] Intalation Problem
cesar sosa wrote: Hi, this message is in Spanish because I don't speak English verry well, if you don't have some one who speak spanish, just tell me and I'll try my best with my english. Hola, Soy un usuario nuevo de Linux y acabo de comprar Linux Mandrake 7.2. Al llegar a casa, no pude esperar a instalarlo y empeze la instalacion. Todo iba bien, pero al llegar a la parte de las particiones, algo salio mal. No paso nada malo, solo no quiere hacer las particiones (quiero hacer las particiones de manera que Linux y Windows convivan en el mismo disco duro). Cuando prosegui, seleccione la opcion de hacer las particiones sin borrar el disco duro y alli fue cuando salio el siguiente mensage. Fallo el particionado: El cambiador de tamao FAT no puede manejar su particion, Ocurrio el error siguiente: can't locate object method "new" via pacage "resize_fat::main" at /usr/bin/perl/instal/instal-interactive.pm line 108 Como datos adicionales --Cuando vi que eso fallo, fui a la opccion de avanzados, pero temi hacer algo mal ya que soy un nuevo usuario y regrese al menu de particiones otravez. Cuando seleccione la opcion de particiones sin borrar dico duro (despues de haber ido a la opcion de avanzados), la computadora empezo a medir los limites de el OS de Windows y despues salio un mensage que decia "Advertencia!" y algo de que tenia que correr el ScanDisck antes de empezar a particionar y la instalacion se trabo aun despues de que corri Scan Disck. --Tengo en mi poder el Quick Restore de mi computadora. --Mi disco duro (C:) tiene una capacidad de 25.2 Gb Gracias por leer mi carta, espero puedan resolver mi problema. _ Do You Yahoo!? Obtenga su direccin de correo-e gratis @yahoo.com en http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com HOla! Lo que pasa que antes de que pedes hacer un particion de Linux es necesario que corras scandisk y Defrag pues windows algunas veces deja espacio entre el disco duro que esta siendo usado. Al defragmentar tu disco duro entonces las zonas libres podran ser identificadas por linux y ahi es donde podra crear los partitions que necesita. Para poder hacer esto antes tienes que hacer resize el partition de windows. Y asignar lo que vas a dejar que linux use. Por ejemplo en mi disco duro de 13 Gb 5 gb los separe para linux. Tuve que seleccionar el partition de windows (pues es el unico que tenia) y despues lo hice resize y seleccione cuanto queria que linux usara. Despues necesitas seleccionar lo que separaste para linux y haz click en auto select asi linux puede seleccionarlos partitions que va a crear automaticamente.Espero que no este muy confuso estas instrucciones. Suerte!
[newbie] KDE2 for Mandrake 7.1
Hi, I'm a new user ... and i'd like to know where can I get the KDE2 for Mandrake 7.1 ? Thanks, C.Logrado
Re: [newbie] RealPlayer 7 or 8 -- which is better?
I haven't seen one bit of difference! -s On Wednesday 17 January 2001 04:28 am, you wrote: Dear friends: This would seem to be a no-brainer: one should certainly prefer RealPlayer 8 to RealPlayer 7. However, what puzzles me is the size of the file. The Real 7 for Linux rpm is 6.5 megs in size, while the Real 8 Linux rpm is only 4.8 megs in size. Both are for Red Hat glibc 2.1 and both were downloaded from RealPlayer. Can someone explain this, please. Is there anything missing in Real 8 that would make one want to keep Real 7? Thanks so much. Benjamin
[newbie] ftp passwords
What's up with these ftp download sites that claim to be public, then can't download from cause of a derned ole' password request? Is there some Linux-community secret handshake that I haven't heard about yet? -s
RE: [newbie] VPN Client software
$499 would be outrageous for a VPN client... In my opinion that should be as standard as a mail and news reader that comes with your distribution, or just plain built-in kernel support that comes along with ppp and etc... -Original Message- From: Steve Gulick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 6:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] VPN Client software FWIW, A company called Netmax makes a Linux based VPN out of the box. They clain it can be up and running in about 15mins. It cost $499 :( But if you can get work to pay for it it may be worth the money. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Currey Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] VPN Client software Maybe nobody else here has been able to both figure out the how to's and get it to work? That wouldn't be too surprising on a Newbie list. FWIW, I have successfully setup VPN on NT Servers, and clients on Win/95, Win/98 (1 machine unsuccessful, even reloaded - I refuse to pay M$ $245 to help, screw that machine), and Win/2000. With Linux, I tried to read the VPN how to and mini how to a week ago, figuring to use it to connect to a site I was having problems connecting to with a Win/98 machine, and after a few hours of reading, decided I didn't have the time to get Linux VPN capability as complex as it looked. Maybe its just that the M$ stuff is simplistic or something, options wise, but it was nowhere near as daunting to figure out how to set it up. If anyone actually gets a Linux VPN client to connect and work on an NT Server, please post what software versions are running and what options are set to on the server and client so as to provide a trail of crumbs for those of us unable to sort it all out and make sense of it. It makes me feel better that it wasn't just me. Sorry I had no solution to offer... BobC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:53 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] VPN Client software I've been beating my head against this one for a while. No one here has responded to my VPN questions. My problem is that I have to connect to a VPN server running W2K. Consequently, it's my impression that I have to do PPTP because that's how MS VPN server operates. Check out: www.freeswan.org http://neurosis.hungry.com/~ben/software/pptp.html and of course the VPN HOW-TOs If you can, let me know if you get this working... -Original Message- From: Wignall, Mark T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] VPN Client software Greets Penguin-Pals! Looking for something similar to NT2000's built in feature to VPN to our corporate network. Commercia/Share/Freeware are all fine. I'm NOT looking to do ssh/PPTP if I don't have to. I also, don't want to run linux masquerading if I don't have to as both my machines at home NT and Linux, each have their own static IP's, so don't see the need. Can any of you guru's out there help me out? TIA, __ Mark T. Wignall MES Database Administrator Xerox Corporation Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (503) 685-3071 (Office) (503) 703-9383 (Cell) (503) 599-6213 (Pager)
RE: [newbie] KDE or Gnome
Abe and Mark, this is an example of what I was talking about in the "Mandrakesoft CEO defend Linux" thread. The community is divided. Some think Linux existence is to vanquish Microsoft (i.e.to be a viable replacement for the MS Desktop among the masses, not among folks like Abe, et al.), others see Linux existing in it's own space and not really a competitor to MS. Dan, yes that would be nice, probabaly something along the lines of "Check out KDE if your a newbie coming from MS", or "Check out GNOME if your a newbie coming from MAC". But it will take more than window managers "to kick the financial crap out of Microsoft." We need 3rd party vendors to support Linux as well. -Original Message-From: Dan LaBine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:53 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] KDE or Gnome Just a thought here, but wouldn't it be incredibly wise of us to suggest and promote KDE as a prefferred desktop environment? Don't get me wrong, I don't actually have a preference of my own, but if we want Linux to kick the financial crap out of Microshaft, we're going to have to make it as easy as possible for all the "Former" windows users we can find. KDE seems to be the most similar to Windows, and therefore the least painful. I don't think it should be a war, but rather a question of choice. Imagine getting on the phone to Bill gates and ordering a custom Desktop for Windows! Yeah, that'll be the sameday that lawyers and politicians start telling the truth, gas drops to $0.10 per gallon, and warp drives have been around for 50 years! Just my $0.02 Dan LaBineRegistered Linux User #190712
Re: [newbie] KDE or Gnome
Mark, You're absolutely right about that! My company is in the process of becoming established in Quebec, Canada, where we already have about 200 programmers ready to start writing fresh apps SPECIFICALLY for Linux. I've been working on this little project for about 6 months now, and one of the main reasons is because like a lot of people, I'm fed up with MS. I firmly beleive in the whole Linux movement (?). It's about time for a change. If MS had a more reliable and flexible operating system, and applications, I might be less inclined to "jump into the fray". Such not being the case, I'm all over Linux like "White on Rice"! P.S., we've been pre-loading Mandrake for about 3-4 months now on about 24% of our new PC's. In my line of work, you do your homework or you're out of business. I knew this whole thing with MS was coming. I'm sorry that others don't see that Linux should end up dominating the O/S market, because in the final analysis, this could end up generating a huge whack of jobs, and income for those who never considered it before. I like to see people get ahead. Anyway, I'm done rambling. For Now! Dan LaBineRegistered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: Mark Johnson To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:46 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] KDE or Gnome Abe and Mark, this is an example of what I was talking about in the "Mandrakesoft CEO defend Linux" thread. The community is divided. Some think Linux existence is to vanquish Microsoft (i.e.to be a viable replacement for the MS Desktop among the masses, not among folks like Abe, et al.), others see Linux existing in it's own space and not really a competitor to MS. Dan, yes that would be nice, probabaly something along the lines of "Check out KDE if your a newbie coming from MS", or "Check out GNOME if your a newbie coming from MAC". But it will take more than window managers "to kick the financial crap out of Microsoft." We need 3rd party vendors to support Linux as well. -Original Message-From: Dan LaBine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 7:53 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] KDE or Gnome Just a thought here, but wouldn't it be incredibly wise of us to suggest and promote KDE as a prefferred desktop environment? Don't get me wrong, I don't actually have a preference of my own, but if we want Linux to kick the financial crap out of Microshaft, we're going to have to make it as easy as possible for all the "Former" windows users we can find. KDE seems to be the most similar to Windows, and therefore the least painful. I don't think it should be a war, but rather a question of choice. Imagine getting on the phone to Bill gates and ordering a custom Desktop for Windows! Yeah, that'll be the sameday that lawyers and politicians start telling the truth, gas drops to $0.10 per gallon, and warp drives have been around for 50 years! Just my $0.02 Dan LaBineRegistered Linux User #190712
Re: [newbie] win2K and ML7.2
At 09:31 17.01.2001 -0300, you wrote: Hi, I wanna know if somebody could install win2K and LM7.2 on the same hard disk. I couldn't yet. I made the following: (30 HB HD) 1- I partition the disc in one FAT32 unit, and leave the rest of the disc free 2- I installed win2K on this partition (FAT32) , without any other extra option (Is there any option not to install the win2K boot manager?) 3- I installed LM7.2 on the rest of the disc , without any other extra option than lilo boot manager 4- I thought the lilo must work well and lilo would overwrite the W2K boot manager, but it didn't happen. My matchine started with a black screen with the "S" in each part of the screen. How can I install these Systems in the same hard disc? emilio, look at this websiteshould help u although it is out of the suse support db, i managed to get my dual boot system working with it : http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/nt2.html hth, --quay
[newbie] glide V3 libraries
Hi, I'm under the impression that I cannot play 3dfx-based games on my LM 7.2 system unless I download and compile the 2.4 kernel. Is this true? I have installed the Glide V3 and Device 3dfx libraries, yet Unreal Tournament is unable to locate the Glide drivers. It exits with a segfault. I have tried to do "insmod 3dfx" to load /dev/3dfx (as root), but it says the module is not there. So there is no /dev/3dfx, even though the device 3dfx package is supposed to be installed already. Mandrake tech support will not help, even though I registered with them. The information at Lokigames is discouraging at best, because it implies that 3dfx will not work unless I install the 2.4 kernel and several other packages, including some sources. Is there any easy way around this? Thanks, Chris
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
Dennis Myers wrote: The tutorial is still there, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 16 January 2001 09:23 pm, Vic wrote: Ok I concede. how I do to get this dangbusted stupid cd recorder to work??? Is there a kludge or a hack?? Please just tell me what to type and I will do it. I am using mandrake 7.0-2 Yes, I'm afraid there is a kludge with 7.0, solved with 7.1 and perfected with 7.2. there was a fix/tutorial on Mandrakes web page, but it's no longer there. Best I can remember it had to do with the needed "append=ide-scsi" linked wrong. The line would be : append="hdx=ide-scsi" added to the lilo.conf I believe. I will go through my notes at home and see if I can confirm the location, unless someone else can jump in here and confirm or correct. There I go again, left out the fact that the above hdx should be what ever your cdrom is shown as in linux in your case it looks like hdd. Then from a root console type "lilo" without the quotes. This should get the link available so that when you do the scsi link to cdrom in the tutorial things will connect, we hope. -- Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
Hmm ok this time with both commands I got: [root@kittypuss ntr]# HardDrake bash: HardDrake: command not found [root@kittypuss ntr]# harddrake harddrake: error in loading shared libraries: harddrake: undefined symbol: s_ignore [root@kittypuss ntr]# I'm using mandrake 7.0-2 On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Dennis Myers wrote: Sorry, I forget sometimes to be exact. you should type "HardDrake" without the quotes, and in root command line. The command is case sensitive. Vic wrote: I typed harddrake and it did 'command not found' what I do now? On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Dennis Myers wrote: The tutorial is very good and is not based on whether the cdwriter was in place during install or installed later. Did harddrake detect it? if so then check the tutorial and make the entries as root that the tutorial calls for. It may just solve your problems. Luck, On Wednesday 17 January 2001 04:30 am, you wrote: Thank you, -- Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
Yes, but it was useless because kudzu configuring it did nothing to connect it to the file system as a recorder. On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, civileme wrote: On Wednesday 17 January 2001 05:30, you wrote: Thank you, but I just installed the cdrecorder, and not during install. kudzu then came up on the next boot, saw your cd-redorder and offered to configure it? Civileme I did the scsi link, what I need to know Ii guess is how do I load the ide-scsi module and make it connect to the scsi chain what is already present that supports the zip drive which is scsi. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Dennis Myers wrote: Vic , take a look at the tutorial on the Linux-Mandrake site, the one that deals with cdwriters. If you have'nt already. I think the scsi link needs to be made and some errors corrected that were done on install. Not yours but the OS. Sorry if you have already done this then I am at a lose as to the problem. -- Dennis M. Registered Linux user #180842
[newbie] USB scanner support
greetings. i'm working on getting my USB scanner to work. so far i have managed to break a few things =) so i guess that is progress. my first question -- so i know i've got something to work with. are the modules to support a USB scanner built into the mdk kernal? i am using 7.2 this is the only USB device i have, so i don't have any other hardware to plug in. thanks much. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
Duplicate entry 'append' near line 17 in file /etc/lilo.conf what this mean? my lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux prompt timeout=50 message=/boot/message other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="65532k" append="hdd=ide-scsi" read-only On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, A V Flinsch wrote: Do all of the following as root add a line that looks like append=" hdd=ide-scsi" to the correct stanza in /etc/lilo.conf then execute /sbin/lilo next add the following lines to the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local modprobe ide-scsi modprob sg now reboot, you should be able to access your cdwriter on /dev/scd0 if this works, edit your /etc/fstab to reflect this, and try writing a cd. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:12:43 AM 1/15/01 I personally don't like this solution, but it's yet another way for Linux (and Mandrake) to gain market share (at the expense of becoming more like M$). I believe that if anyone is stupid enough not to understand the already very user-friendly Mandrake Drakx, then they shouldn't be using Linux at all. What do everyone else here think? i agree, but i will add one other thing -- i have done stupid things on my computer and killed it because i was ignorant (but i learn best by crashing my system). i willing do stupid things because i can fdisk start over. so i would change that ro read: anyone stupid enuf not to understand Drakx, or stupid enuf not to be prepaired for a total crash (back ups and install CDs), shouldn't be using Linux. for example, here were i work we just paid $250 an hour to try to extract data from a hard drive that was underwater. why? because most of it wasn't backed up, and the back ups they did have were on tape. right next to the computer. under water. a clear example of people not smart enuf to use linux. =) i'm prepaired for my computer to crash everytime i look at it.=) Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
Yes sir, it is a Plextor drive On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vic...this is Kit...are you sure the drive is LINUX compatible...?? this could be the problem Vic wrote: Thank you for trying I can't find anything to type. I just saw a bunch of distorted stuff with variables and numbers that did not make any sense Please someone tell me WHAT this MEANS??? Its too hard and I can't fix it. I type modprobe ide-scsi and it is worthless because it does nothing to fix my terrible horrible rotten condemning problem that is crippling my ability to operate my machine. cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.8.1 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jörg Schilling Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) * 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) 'IOMEGA ' 'ZIP 250 ' 'H.41' Removable Disk 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * Still does nothing and means nothing I can't make it change even if I hold a gun to its monitor. I would blow its tube out if I had a gun I am so damn upset right now. -- === http://www.KompuKit.com === Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Designer: http://www.kompukit.com/kitdesigns Personal WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
Sorry dude I can't upgrade until I burn the 7.2 image On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, abe wrote: have you checked out this? http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Tutorial/CDburner/ Its for 7.2 but the principal is the same. In fact I also suggest that you update to 7.2. It is truly a beautiful thing ;-) Abe Vic wrote: I can't find it, is there anyone on this list who can find this info please. I am asking all subscribers who might have a clue please. Thank you and much appreciuated to those woh can give me the into On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 16 January 2001 09:23 pm, Vic wrote: Ok I concede. how I do to get this dangbusted stupid cd recorder to work??? Is there a kludge or a hack?? Please just tell me what to type and I will do it. I am using mandrake 7.0-2 Yes, I'm afraid there is a kludge with 7.0, solved with 7.1 and perfected with 7.2. there was a fix/tutorial on Mandrakes web page, but it's no longer there. Best I can remember it had to do with the needed "append=ide-scsi" linked wrong. Is that broken and can't use cdrecorder? I have a Plextor W8432T and kernel 2.2.14-15mdk will it work or am I screwed? no, if you can find the fix, that's the best damn CD-RW with any OS. I have AMD K6 400 64Mb sysram I can mount the drive on /dev/hdd as a cdrom, but I already have a cdrom so thats no good as a recorder. that's the way to do it. My Cdrom is hdc, my Plex 8432t is hdd. Here's the deal, search for the 7.0-CDRW fix, it's just a simple 'ln -s something havin to do with linking the hdd as ide to hdd as scuzzy, scd0 Sorry, I just can't remember. Try the mailing list archives, or email Mandrake. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie]
Hi everyone, I'm trying to get my sound blaster live X-gamer working. I got some ideas from some people here yesterday to try and went home last night and really went nuts on trying to get it to work. I even yanked my network card and swapped slots with it to see if that helped. Anyway, here is a website with the screen dump of the error that sndconfig gives me... http://ariesplanet.tripod.com/sndconfig_screenshot.htm (I only did this in a KDE environment to get the screen capture. I did it logged in as root like you're supposed to without X) If anyone knows anything about this I'd be grateful to hear what you have to say. --Matt
[newbie]
I have on-board sound card CMl8330 and it doesn't work with Linux Mandrake 7.2. Where could i download drivers for it and how should i install them? Thank you
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 08:20 am, Dennis Myers wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 16 January 2001 09:23 pm, Vic wrote: Ok I concede. how I do to get this dangbusted stupid cd recorder to work??? Is there a kludge or a hack?? Please just tell me what to type and I will do it. I am using mandrake 7.0-2 Yes, I'm afraid there is a kludge with 7.0, solved with 7.1 and perfected with 7.2. there was a fix/tutorial on Mandrakes web page, but it's no longer there. Best I can remember it had to do with the needed "append=ide-scsi" linked wrong. The line would be : append="hdx=ide-scsi" added to the lilo.conf I believe. I will go through my notes at home and see if I can confirm the location, unless someone else can jump in here and confirm or correct. Correct, but there was an additional problem with 7.0. IIRC, even tho the ide-scsi line was properly implemented, the hd* or the /cdrom2 was improperly, or not even linked to /dev/scd0. Again, IIRC, the fix was to delete the offending link and then to create a new correct link. The tutorial use to reflect this, but since 7.0 is getting almost ancient, the tutorial no longer reflects the needed link fix for 7.0. It's got to be in the ML archives somewhere. If I'm the only one that remembers it this way, I'll try to hunt up the fix, but I can't get to it right now. 'Course a sure fix would be to upgrade to 7.2 ;) -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Patch
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 01:45 am, s wrote: When I try to patch something, I get an error about patch being an unknown command. So I figured it must be an app I need. I do a search and find only a gnu patch utility that is provided on a $70 cd. Is everyone out there patching kernels, drivers, etc. using this patch or is there another one? Is this something that should be included with our distro? What? Where? How? Who? When? You should already have 'patch' on your CD's, but if you don't you can get it by ftp. I have patch-2.5.4-8mdk -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] ping IP
Hey Guys! ok I have set up a Mandrake corp 7.1 and all seems to be fine. I have 2 network cards in the box and they booth were found. I have one set to my DSL line. Internet works fine.. the other one I have set to 192.168.0.100. I can ping 192.168.0.100 from the local box. I cant ping from another (windows) box on the same network. Netmasks are the same. Any ideas? Sincerely, Dan Belkie hostinghouse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hostinghouse.com ***We are now giving away free .com domains names!*** _
Re: [newbie] KDE2 for Mandrake 7.1
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 05:18 am, Cristiano de Lima Logrado wrote: I'm a new user ... and i'd like to know where can I get the KDE2 for Mandrake 7.1 ? Please opost with plain text. There's a list of cooker mirrors here: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 Don't use the cooker rpms. The 7.x compatible KDE 2.1 beta2 rpms are in the /unsupported/i586/kde2.1/ directory. You'll need all the rpms in this dir (56mb). D/L them them into a dir by themselves and install all at once using 'rpm -Uvh *'. The author of these rpms, Chris Molnar, advocates using 'urpmi *.rpm' Depending on your Mandrake version/install, you may get some failed dependencies. You'll then need to d/l those to the dir you create above, and try the 'rpm -Uvh *' (or urmpi) again till the upgrade is successful. Then immediately run 'rpm --rebuilddb' followed with 'update-menus -v' Logout and back into your desktop. Done. YMMV ;) -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
Ok, what is the url for 7.0-2 tutorial? Thankx On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Dennis Myers wrote: The tutorial is still there, Tom Brinkman wrote:
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
Vic wrote: Duplicate entry 'append' near line 17 in file /etc/lilo.conf what this mean? my lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux prompt timeout=50 message=/boot/message other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="65532k" append="hdd=ide-scsi" read-only It means you have two append lines, you should edit it to read append="mem=65532k, hdd=ide-scsi" and delete the second append line completely. On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, A V Flinsch wrote: Do all of the following as root add a line that looks like append=" hdd=ide-scsi" to the correct stanza in /etc/lilo.conf then execute /sbin/lilo next add the following lines to the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local modprobe ide-scsi modprob sg now reboot, you should be able to access your cdwriter on /dev/scd0 if this works, edit your /etc/fstab to reflect this, and try writing a cd. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) -- Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843
[newbie] I found it! CD-RW problem solved
I was composing a long letter to the list asking for help, listing all the steps I had done. (I'll include it anyways as it may help someone else in the same boat) Just before posting, I noticed that the instructions for creating the link from /dev/cdrom to /dev/scd0 differed on www.mandrakeuser.org from what I had read in all the previous locations. The command that finally worked was: ln -sf /dev/scd0 /dev/cdrom Whereas the command that had not worked was: cd /dev rm cdrom ln -s scd0 cdrom The only difference I can see in the commands is the -sf rather than -s, although the second command requests confirmation. Any ideas here, or are they the same? Is this CD-RW problem something that can be automated since LM does pick up that my hdc is a cd-rw? Once again, thanks to the list for all the info that is of so much help. THe following is the text I was going to send: I have been using Mandrake since 7.0, and have upgraded to 7.1, and recently to 7.2, and have been thoroughly impressed with Linux. I have also tried Peanut, Phatlinux, Red Hat, Caldera, and some mini-distros. Here is my problem. I just traded in my cd-rom for a cd-rw, :) , but am not able to access it in LInux. I have been reading all the HOW-TO's and FAQ's, and have been following the threads on this list. I have been able to get LM to recognize my LG CD-RW as a scsi device: cdrecord -scanbus Linux sg driver version: 2.1.39 Using libscg version 'schily-0.1' scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'LG ' 'CD-RW CED-8080B ' '1.06' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * I have the following ines in /etc/modules.conf: alias net-pf-4 ipx pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start alias usb-interface usb-uhci alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc alias block-major-11 scsi_hostadapter pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 /proc/parport/0/irq alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi alias sound-slot-0 sb options sound dmabuf=1 alias midi opl3 options opl3 io=0x388 options sb io=0x220 irq=7 dma=1 mpu_io=0x330 options ide-cd ignore=hdc# tell the ide-cd module to ignore hdc alias scd0 sr_mod# load sr_mod upon access of scd0 I had added the recommended 3 additional lines, but then my cdrom was not recognized. I had appended them to the bottom of the file: #pre-install ide-scsi modprobe imm# uncomment for some ZIP drives only pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sg pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sr_mod pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd # load ide-cd before ide-scsi cat /etc/fstab returns: /dev/hda3 / ext2 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_c2 vfat user,exec,umask=0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0 ls -l /dev/scd* returns: brw-rw1 pmurphy cdwriter 11, 0 Sep 27 03:31 /dev/scd0 brw-rw1 pmurphy cdwriter 11, 1 Sep 27 03:31 /dev/scd1 brw-rw1 pmurphy cdwriter 11, 2 Sep 27 03:31 /dev/scd2 brw-rw1 pmurphy cdwriter 11, 3 Sep 27 03:31 /dev/scd3 brw-rw1 pmurphy cdwriter 11, 4 Sep 27 03:31 /dev/scd4 brw-rw1 pmurphy cdwriter 11, 5 Sep 27 03:31 /dev/scd5 brw-rw1 pmurphy cdwriter 11, 6 Sep 27 03:31 /dev/scd6 brw-rw1 pmurphy cdwriter 11, 7 Sep 27 03:31 /dev/scd7 -- Phil Murphy Nanaimo, BC, Canada Registered Linux User 197338 1980 Yamaha XS1100SG
RE: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM
yes it is does that mean I cant use it, or have to do somethign different ... -Original Message- From: abe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM is it perchance a cdrw? Allton Paul wrote: tried it, first umount'ed and then mount'ed and still got "Input/Output error" -Original Message- From: Jim Warwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 6:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM have you tried to mount the cdrom? mnt cdrom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Allton Paul Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] Disappearing memory... and non accessilble CD-ROM I am experiencing "have 256Mb, linux only sees 64Mb" syndrome. I've tried adding append="mem=256M" in lilo.conf and restarted, but to no avail. Is there anything else I can do, it's horrible using 64Mb. Also .. despite using the cdrom for installation, when I'm actually in linux I cannot access it. I get Input/Output errors. http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions -- -- Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt InterScan_Disclaimer.txtType: Plain Text (text/plain) Encoding: 7bit The information in this email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee(s). Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not an intended recipient, you must not read, use or disseminate the information contained in the email. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of The Capital Markets Company. http://www.capco.com ***
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Adrian Smith wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:12:43 AM 1/15/01 I personally don't like this solution, but it's yet another way for Linux (and Mandrake) to gain market share (at the expense of becoming more like M$). I believe that if anyone is stupid enough not to understand the already very user-friendly Mandrake Drakx, then they shouldn't be using Linux at all. What do everyone else here think? Adrian, For egotistical reasons I am tempted to agree with you, but I think in the real world that's a poor way to look at the problems here. Everyone had to learn somehow, but just because you and I learned in the school of hard knocks doesn't mean everyone has to. There is no reason to need an advanced degree in comp sci to use a computer. If you want the computer to be a tool it has to be usable by those that need it. If you want it to be an ego trip for the cognoscenti then what you say is true. The Drake tools are very good and easy to use for those of us with more than a smattering of technical knowledge. But without better documentation they are a huge barrier for the average user. Some of the problems I see with Mandrake are trying to use the server install instead of workstation, (I wiped out 3 gigs of webpages, graphics files, and programs on ide2) probably 20 installs before I figured out a reasonable partitioning scheme, multiple development programs an libraries which just take space and are not usable for most users, multiple programs which are extraneous for the majority of users (i.e. text editors, mail programs, web tools, system monitors, and sound/video multimedia programs). I would like to see a documentation link on the splash screen as you open the installation program. Ideally it could be in pdf format and open a pdf client that would give simple steps to the installation process. This could also define terms and give examples of what is necessary for a minimum install, as well as provide warnings about terminal (as in kill your computer) problems. Some examples could be: 1) install linux prior to WIN2K, 2) do not use 'server' installation on a dual boot computer, (or one with data you would like to keep), 3) known unreconcilable hardware problems (windmodems, incompatible peripherals) 4) The steps necessary to create a dual boot machine. I did a portion of my Master's work on usability problems. Much of it based on my long, difficult, and destructive attempts at learning linux. Fortunately I have several computers and don't have to take the chance at destroying my workstation to experiment, most of the computing population doesn't have that advantage. Linux isn't easy but it will have to become easier if it is to become a standard in the business community, and amongst the computing public. Most people don't want to experiment, they would like to use their computer to surf the web, write the odd letter, track their checkbook, and keep records. There is no reason to make things difficult (or impossible) for Joe User. The past 20 years is littered with good ideas, hardware and software that didn't take that unnecessary difficulty into account -- Jim -- James Mellema, MA CRNA -- Linux User # 71650 ICQ #19685870
[newbie] Mandrake 7.2 Setup Hangs
I boot from the cd and I get all the way through the kernel booting up and then it check for SCSI devices(i have none). Then it says Starting ...Please Wait and doesn't do anything. I have tried installing on another computer and it works fine. I have taken out all hardware but nothing works
Re: [newbie] Patch
Thanks for the info. rpmpackager doesn't show it and can't find it. When I try to download it from rpmfind I get one of the d*** password requests again. What's up with that? Are only certain people allowed to download from these places? I checked around the site and the faq and nothing said about passwords, registering or anything. *I'm getting soo frustrated.* -s On Wednesday 17 January 2001 05:26 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 17 January 2001 01:45 am, s wrote: When I try to patch something, I get an error about patch being an unknown command. So I figured it must be an app I need. I do a search and find only a gnu patch utility that is provided on a $70 cd. Is everyone out there patching kernels, drivers, etc. using this patch or is there another one? Is this something that should be included with our distro? What? Where? How? Who? When? You should already have 'patch' on your CD's, but if you don't you can get it by ftp. I have patch-2.5.4-8mdk
Re: [newbie] Ghost Mailspool
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:48:19 -0500 (EST), you wrote: Where are you telling it to go when you download the mail from the server? -- Mark Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:51:06 Hi MarkThe Kmail is setup to go to ~/Mail and that dir does exist..this is default and I did not attempt to redirect it... The netscape mail ~/nsmailsame data applies. these are two different mail programs so my problem must be something that is applicable to both? it seems to be downloading but not saving? It will save newsgroups in PAN but I did notice a couple of times when all the data was gone, and then mysteriously reappeared? but I am unfamiliar as to how all these programs function as I have never had a modem that actually does Linux until recently. An old time user of "Forte agent" I was trying to not compare PAN in its present infancy and am overlooking small things until I get a clue on what is what.. I am guessing, the mail should go directly to the program element directory that requested the download?...and not go to /var/ like maybe fetchmail would?...I can't try it in fetchmail for when I tried to set it up the fetchmailconf crashed and is now jammed If I command "fetchmail" or "fetchmailconf" I get a error message: fetchmail: couldn't find canonical DNS name of postoffice.worldnet.att.net `umask 077; fetchmail --configdump --no syslog /tmp/fetchmailconf.4010' run failure, status 2816.unknown error while running fetchmail --configdump. The above translates to me as it errored running conf and it errored again trying to dump? I have found no log entrys? But this occurred when I was trying to set up fetchmail after the two GUI mailprograms wouldn't saveand may not be related or perhaps yes? One other thing .I noticed is while in PAN I get errors of socket problems.(remember my total operating time with this program equals less than one hour) I think these sockets would also be used in the other programs although they don't say anything as PAN does? Do you think my whole problem might be sticky sockets? Thanks for responding Olly P Biloxi
Re: [newbie] Permission to mounted drives?
in /etc/fstab ypu can enter a umask setting to set the permissions for the drive, for some reason the umask figure is the permissions you want taken from 777 (in numeric form) so if you set umask to equal 777 the permisions for the drive would be 0 all round however since root can lock itself out of files (but always with the ability to unlock itself) i don't know if this will give you what you want since it might prevent root access, but i think you can also set a user and group for the drive, i have seen these options in linuxconf along with umask so setting user and group to root and umask to 666 should work i guess, i 'm sure someone will say if i am wrong -at least, i hope they will!- i have a feeling that setting permmisions for the mount point doesn't actually do anything once a drive is mounted on that directory bascule On Wednesday 17 January 2001 1:18 am, you wrote: I am using Mandrake 7.2 on a multi boot machine. I am trying to only allow the root user to access 2 of my windows 98 partitions. I have security set to medium. The only way I seem to be able to stop access to these drives is by going to High security (pain in the arse, then no one but root can access any of the mnt drives) or unmount the drives. I've used linuxconf to try to change the settings, but it doesn't seem to take affect. Also, I've logged in in console mode and used the chmod command to change it (chmod 700 win_c). It acts like it's working, but then when I log back as a user I can still access them? I've set linuxconf to not mount the drives at boot, and that works, but I would like to mount them in case I need to access a file on them, I'm just a little paranoid because I have a dsl connection and want to limit access just in case someone gets in. Thanks in advance, DJW Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
[newbie] Re: Burning CD - not from ISO
Greetings! Tell me if I'm wrong, but I thought something you want to avoid is something you don't want to do. Of course, I only learnt English :-) I was asking for the directory structure/files of CD1 because I already downloaded some files (about 250 MB); methinks I have almost all I need for the base system, I'm just putting them in the wrong place. Ardavan
Re: [newbie] Dual Boot
AL wrote: Installed LM 7.2 on secondary master hard drive. When booting up the only available os to boot is linux. Windows 2000 (installed in primary master hard drive) is NOT available in the boot menu. List members previously suggested that LM 7.2 will automatically detect Win2000. How do I include Win2000 in the boot menu that LM has installed? Thanks for your help. (I thought installing LM would be simple :-((( ) ALtry out the methods in the article below: http://www.maximumlinux.com/howtos/howto/2000_05_23/os_steps1-3.html -- Alan
Re: [newbie] Leaving
Paul wrote: Hi folks, I have to leave the list. I've had a lot of fun here, and learnt a big lot, but the amount of mail we all generate is becoming too much for me to handle. THanks for all the help and advice, and keep it Linux! Paul Paulsorry to hear that, pop in on AIM and say hello every once in a while. -- Alan
[newbie] How does one uncompress files?
I am having problems understanding how to uncompress programs or files.Is there a doc that would explain rpm and other de-compression tools?
Re: [newbie] x3270
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 17 January 2001 12:00 am, Carl Lafferty wrote: A friend of mine not on the list yet (she teaches a great deal of the time) has some problems with x3270. on my 7.2 install I can use it to connect just fine but everytime she tries to run it it says "internal reconfiguration error" I have no clue (she is 120 miles away) Me either and i don't even know her. What's a 'x3270' ? OK, I did a google on it out'a curiousity, and their homepage says if you don't know what it is ... you don't need one http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/7814/ . damn this list is fun ; Toma 3270 is an IBM terminal and the x3270 program emulates a 3270 terminal on a linux box. They're pretty much on the mark when they say "if you don't know what it is ... you don't need one". :-) -- Alan
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
Vic wrote: Duplicate entry 'append' near line 17 in file /etc/lilo.conf what this mean? my lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux prompt timeout=50 message=/boot/message other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="65532k" append="hdd=ide-scsi" read-only On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, A V Flinsch wrote: Do all of the following as root add a line that looks like append=" hdd=ide-scsi" to the correct stanza in /etc/lilo.conf then execute /sbin/lilo next add the following lines to the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local modprobe ide-scsi modprob sg now reboot, you should be able to access your cdwriter on /dev/scd0 if this works, edit your /etc/fstab to reflect this, and try writing a cd. Vicyou have 2 append lines that need to merged into one single line, like this: append="65532k hdd=ide-scsi" (only one set of quotes and a single space between arguments) -- Alan
RE: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
-Original Message- From: James Mellema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux I would like to see a documentation link on the splash screen as you open the installation program. Ideally it could be in pdf format and open a pdf client that would give simple steps to the installation process. This could also define terms and give examples of what is necessary for a minimum install, as well as provide warnings about terminal (as in kill your computer) problems. Some examples could be: I think this is a wonderful idea too, but why PDF? I'd rather HMTL or plain text... I did a portion of my Master's work on usability problems. Much of it based on my long, difficult, and destructive attempts at learning linux. Wow, do you have anything published that I could read on this subject. I very interested in this sort of thing. It seems that one thing MS and Apple have is a dedicated group that help solve usability problems that are not so closely tied to the techy/developer mentality. I don't know for sure but I don't think this is true for the KDE, GNOME, etc. groups (correct me if I'm wrong), my impression is that there is some gathering of ideas from the community about usability issues, but the ideas come from and are processed by folks higher-up on the computer food chain instead of from the middle or lower regions. See, while Linux is a wonderful thing, the fact that you must pour over HOW-TOs which many times are quite obscure and post many emails to lists and press on for months in this mode to get your sound card to work (for example) speaks to the fact that Linux is a hobbyist OS. But, that said, it is getting better all the time. Just recently my wife has shown some interest in installing Linux because she wants to see what the gimp is like since she is a web developer. And though I am a little apprehensive about this venture, it will be when folks like her reach a critical mass that some usablility innovation will show up in the OS.
[newbie] Ping Onur!!!
Hey dude. Guess what?! I got them NVidia drivers loaded!!! I can't believe it. I can play Chromiun and Gltron now. I need to adjust my fonts now. They are all a little smaller, but success on a day that I was becoming so frustrated. I wasn't getting sh*t done. No luck with glibc 2.2, everything I tried to download was asking for a d*mn password, and my default windows manager changed without warning and I couldn't get it back. But yaho. I deleted that windowmanager that kept coming up, and I found a mirror site where I could get that patch utility and (best of all) I Got Them Nvidia Drivers loaded on this i815 mobo The key is this patch for the 2.4.0 kernel for the nvidia driver kernel. I configured agpgart as a module when setting up 2.4.0 and now... Success Thanks for all your help. -s
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Very well said, I will vote for you for vice-President next go around, sorry already committed to someone else on the list for prez. OK, I'll be quiet again. James Mellema wrote: Adrian Smith wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:12:43 AM 1/15/01 I personally don't like this solution, but it's yet another way for Linux (and Mandrake) to gain market share (at the expense of becoming more like M$). I believe that if anyone is stupid enough not to understand the already very user-friendly Mandrake Drakx, then they shouldn't be using Linux at all. What do everyone else here think? Adrian, For egotistical reasons I am tempted to agree with you, but I think in the real world that's a poor way to look at the problems here. Everyone had to learn somehow, but just because you and I learned in the school of hard knocks doesn't mean everyone has to. There is no reason to need an advanced degree in comp sci to use a computer. If you want the computer to be a tool it has to be usable by those that need it. If you want it to be an ego trip for the cognoscenti then what you say is true. The Drake tools are very good and easy to use for those of us with more than a smattering of technical knowledge. But without better documentation they are a huge barrier for the average user. Some of the problems I see with Mandrake are trying to use the server install instead of workstation, (I wiped out 3 gigs of webpages, graphics files, and programs on ide2) probably 20 installs before I figured out a reasonable partitioning scheme, multiple development programs an libraries which just take space and are not usable for most users, multiple programs which are extraneous for the majority of users (i.e. text editors, mail programs, web tools, system monitors, and sound/video multimedia programs). I would like to see a documentation link on the splash screen as you open the installation program. Ideally it could be in pdf format and open a pdf client that would give simple steps to the installation process. This could also define terms and give examples of what is necessary for a minimum install, as well as provide warnings about terminal (as in kill your computer) problems. Some examples could be: 1) install linux prior to WIN2K, 2) do not use 'server' installation on a dual boot computer, (or one with data you would like to keep), 3) known unreconcilable hardware problems (windmodems, incompatible peripherals) 4) The steps necessary to create a dual boot machine. I did a portion of my Master's work on usability problems. Much of it based on my long, difficult, and destructive attempts at learning linux. Fortunately I have several computers and don't have to take the chance at destroying my workstation to experiment, most of the computing population doesn't have that advantage. Linux isn't easy but it will have to become easier if it is to become a standard in the business community, and amongst the computing public. Most people don't want to experiment, they would like to use their computer to surf the web, write the odd letter, track their checkbook, and keep records. There is no reason to make things difficult (or impossible) for Joe User. The past 20 years is littered with good ideas, hardware and software that didn't take that unnecessary difficulty into account -- Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843
Re: [newbie] win2K and ML7.2
Emilio Correa wrote: Hi, I wanna know if somebody could install win2K and LM7.2 on the same hard disk. I couldn't yet. I made the following: (30 HB HD) 1- I partition the disc in one FAT32 unit, and leave the rest of the disc free 2- I installed win2K on this partition (FAT32) , without any other extra option (Is there any option not to install the win2K boot manager?) 3- I installed LM7.2 on the rest of the disc , without any other extra option than lilo boot manager 4- I thought the lilo must work well and lilo would overwrite the W2K boot manager, but it didn't happen. My matchine started with a black screen with the "S" in each part of the screen. How can I install these Systems in the same hard disc? Emiliocheck out the methods used in the article below: http://www.maximumlinux.com/howtos/howto/2000_05_23/os_steps1-3.html -- Alan
Re: [newbie] ping IP
You got me on that one Dan ! Er,..Sorry Dr. D. ! Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "Dan Belkie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: [newbie] ping IP Hey Guys! ok I have set up a Mandrake corp 7.1 and all seems to be fine. I have 2 network cards in the box and they booth were found. I have one set to my DSL line. Internet works fine.. the other one I have set to 192.168.0.100. I can ping 192.168.0.100 from the local box. I cant ping from another (windows) box on the same network. Netmasks are the same. Any ideas? Sincerely, Dan Belkie hostinghouse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hostinghouse.com ***We are now giving away free .com domains names!*** _
Re: [newbie] Slow computer with MD 7.2
hey, I'll tell you what I do to make mandrake really scream. 1. HDparm. Read this article. http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/272 That oughta get your hard drive going as bit faster. 2. recompile the kernel and get rid of everything you don't use. If you've never done this, email me personally and I'll write you a step by step. You can simply change the cpu optimizations to PPro and rebuild your current kernel if you don't want to change anything drastic. This will make your machine quite a bit faster. I gained 15 fps in quake3 simply by recompiling. 3. Download .src.rpms of all your favorite programs from the linux/mandrake/7.2/SRPMS/ directory on one of the mirrors fo 7.s and recompile them. 4. recompile X if you can. Doing this speeded up my system comsiderably. 5. Use a windowmanager that is small and light eg. Windowmaker, Blackbox, raw sawfish, I'm sure others fall into that catagory but I haven't used them yet ;-) Good luck and feel free to write me off the list if you have any really indepth questions. Abe "Blomquist, Niklas" wrote: Hi all! I have just download the MD 7.2 and installed it om my computer. It's a Asus AV7, AMD 1000MHz, 256MB Ram, 3 Harddrives. I magages to get the ATA100 to work, but it s l o w. It takes log time before the program starts and it takes log time to start the computer. I did run MD 6 or 7 before, but my grafic card wasn't supported (asus 7100, gefore2 MX). And tha was working fine, exept for I just got 640*480 :-) Any suggestions? Regards Niklas Blomquist
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Right On James! Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "James Mellema" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux Adrian Smith wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:12:43 AM 1/15/01 I personally don't like this solution, but it's yet another way for Linux (and Mandrake) to gain market share (at the expense of becoming more like M$). I believe that if anyone is stupid enough not to understand the already very user-friendly Mandrake Drakx, then they shouldn't be using Linux at all. What do everyone else here think? Adrian, For egotistical reasons I am tempted to agree with you, but I think in the real world that's a poor way to look at the problems here. Everyone had to learn somehow, but just because you and I learned in the school of hard knocks doesn't mean everyone has to. There is no reason to need an advanced degree in comp sci to use a computer. If you want the computer to be a tool it has to be usable by those that need it. If you want it to be an ego trip for the cognoscenti then what you say is true. The Drake tools are very good and easy to use for those of us with more than a smattering of technical knowledge. But without better documentation they are a huge barrier for the average user. Some of the problems I see with Mandrake are trying to use the server install instead of workstation, (I wiped out 3 gigs of webpages, graphics files, and programs on ide2) probably 20 installs before I figured out a reasonable partitioning scheme, multiple development programs an libraries which just take space and are not usable for most users, multiple programs which are extraneous for the majority of users (i.e. text editors, mail programs, web tools, system monitors, and sound/video multimedia programs). I would like to see a documentation link on the splash screen as you open the installation program. Ideally it could be in pdf format and open a pdf client that would give simple steps to the installation process. This could also define terms and give examples of what is necessary for a minimum install, as well as provide warnings about terminal (as in kill your computer) problems. Some examples could be: 1) install linux prior to WIN2K, 2) do not use 'server' installation on a dual boot computer, (or one with data you would like to keep), 3) known unreconcilable hardware problems (windmodems, incompatible peripherals) 4) The steps necessary to create a dual boot machine. I did a portion of my Master's work on usability problems. Much of it based on my long, difficult, and destructive attempts at learning linux. Fortunately I have several computers and don't have to take the chance at destroying my workstation to experiment, most of the computing population doesn't have that advantage. Linux isn't easy but it will have to become easier if it is to become a standard in the business community, and amongst the computing public. Most people don't want to experiment, they would like to use their computer to surf the web, write the odd letter, track their checkbook, and keep records. There is no reason to make things difficult (or impossible) for Joe User. The past 20 years is littered with good ideas, hardware and software that didn't take that unnecessary difficulty into account -- Jim -- James Mellema, MA CRNA -- Linux User # 71650 ICQ #19685870
[newbie] Adding memory to 7.1
I want to add another 128 megs of RAM to my 7.1 (kernel 2.4.0.0-13mdk) system and was wondering if there is anything special I need to do or look out for. Most directions imply that added RAM hould be auto detected on reboot, or change the setting in LILO or GRUB. Is this all that is needed? Thank you, Victor
Re: [newbie] ping IP
Ha ha ha Hey Dan! Ok well I guess I keep playing! Sincerely, Dan Belkie hostinghouse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hostinghouse.com ***We are now giving away free .com domains names!*** _ - Original Message - From: "Dan LaBine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] ping IP You got me on that one Dan ! Er,..Sorry Dr. D. ! Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "Dan Belkie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: [newbie] ping IP Hey Guys! ok I have set up a Mandrake corp 7.1 and all seems to be fine. I have 2 network cards in the box and they booth were found. I have one set to my DSL line. Internet works fine.. the other one I have set to 192.168.0.100. I can ping 192.168.0.100 from the local box. I cant ping from another (windows) box on the same network. Netmasks are the same. Any ideas? Sincerely, Dan Belkie hostinghouse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hostinghouse.com ***We are now giving away free .com domains names!*** _
Re: [newbie] glide V3 libraries
you are using X 4.01 aren't you. Glide doesn't work with X 4.01. You have to use opengl as your renderer. Go to /usr/local/games/ut/System and edit UnrealTournament.ini. Here is what it should look like [Engine.Engine] GameRenderDevice=OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice WindowedRenderDevice=OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice RenderDevice=OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice THen scroll down to the openGL subsection and make sure that the setting look good for your hardware. [OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice] UseGammaExtension=1 UseModulatedGamma=0 OpenGLLibName=libGL.so MinDepthBits=16 MaxLogUOverV=8 MaxLogVOverU=8 UseMultiTexture=1 UsePalette=1 UseAlphaPalette=0 ShareLists=0 AlwaysMipmap=0 DoPrecache=0 Translucency=True VolumetricLighting=True ShinySurfaces=True Coronas=True HighDetailActors=True DetailTextures=True UseTrilinear=False this is an opengl section for a geforce2 card. You'll need to make these changes for sure: UseTNT=0 UseS3TC=0 OpenGLLibName=libGL.so should point to libMesaVoodoo or something. I don't remember off hand. Good luck! Abe Chris wrote: Hi, I'm under the impression that I cannot play 3dfx-based games on my LM 7.2 system unless I download and compile the 2.4 kernel. Is this true? I have installed the Glide V3 and Device 3dfx libraries, yet Unreal Tournament is unable to locate the Glide drivers. It exits with a segfault. I have tried to do "insmod 3dfx" to load /dev/3dfx (as root), but it says the module is not there. So there is no /dev/3dfx, even though the device 3dfx package is supposed to be installed already. Mandrake tech support will not help, even though I registered with them. The information at Lokigames is discouraging at best, because it implies that 3dfx will not work unless I install the 2.4 kernel and several other packages, including some sources. Is there any easy way around this? Thanks, Chris
Re: [newbie] modules dont get installed
I just found this in a ng submitted but not signed by a Roger, it may (or may not) be what you need, but I think it's worth looking into: "another one that didn't read the readme file! (i didn't either lol :) you may need the new modutils package (i had mdk 7.2 for which i upgraded my modutils package to the currect which is 2.4.*) goto the ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/utilities/ (or similar url) and d/l the modutils tar.gz. make it into an rpm: rpm -ta modutils*tar.gz and will make an rpm in the /usr/src/RPM (or similar dir -- i have a 686 so i benefit from compiling my own stuff instaed of using 586 stuff--a slight gain). All modules miraculously worked after i did this. also, make sure you did cp your 'System.map' and stuff to the /boot diri usually do a 'make install' after i do 'make dep, make clean, make bzImage'. after that, and you did also a 'make modules make modules_install' to right? *note: remove/rename your /lib/modules/2.4.0 or else it wont write any more new modules into the /2.4.0 dir...rename it to 2.4.0-old or something." HTH, -s On Wednesday 17 January 2001 10:17 am, you wrote: hiho, im running into strange things here, i compiled a 2.4.0 kernel, then made "make dep", "make bzImage", "make modules" and "make modules_install". upon "make modules_install" i can see linux entering all the modules dirs in /usr/src/linux/drivers/ telling me "nothing to be done for modules_install". and thats the point.linux builds all the modules..but i doesnt install them in the corresponding directories ! can somebody give a hint on this ?.i ve compiled kernels several times now...this isnt the first one, but there has never happened a thing like this..cant imagine what i could have done wrong--- greetings --quay -- -Quaylar- Icq# 30932448 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Knowledge is power
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Hear! hear! Bang on the money! Dan LaBine Registered Linux User #190712 - Original Message - From: "Dennis Myers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux Very well said, I will vote for you for vice-President next go around, sorry already committed to someone else on the list for prez. OK, I'll be quiet again. James Mellema wrote: Adrian Smith wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:12:43 AM 1/15/01 I personally don't like this solution, but it's yet another way for Linux (and Mandrake) to gain market share (at the expense of becoming more like M$). I believe that if anyone is stupid enough not to understand the already very user-friendly Mandrake Drakx, then they shouldn't be using Linux at all. What do everyone else here think? Adrian, For egotistical reasons I am tempted to agree with you, but I think in the real world that's a poor way to look at the problems here. Everyone had to learn somehow, but just because you and I learned in the school of hard knocks doesn't mean everyone has to. There is no reason to need an advanced degree in comp sci to use a computer. If you want the computer to be a tool it has to be usable by those that need it. If you want it to be an ego trip for the cognoscenti then what you say is true. The Drake tools are very good and easy to use for those of us with more than a smattering of technical knowledge. But without better documentation they are a huge barrier for the average user. Some of the problems I see with Mandrake are trying to use the server install instead of workstation, (I wiped out 3 gigs of webpages, graphics files, and programs on ide2) probably 20 installs before I figured out a reasonable partitioning scheme, multiple development programs an libraries which just take space and are not usable for most users, multiple programs which are extraneous for the majority of users (i.e. text editors, mail programs, web tools, system monitors, and sound/video multimedia programs). I would like to see a documentation link on the splash screen as you open the installation program. Ideally it could be in pdf format and open a pdf client that would give simple steps to the installation process. This could also define terms and give examples of what is necessary for a minimum install, as well as provide warnings about terminal (as in kill your computer) problems. Some examples could be: 1) install linux prior to WIN2K, 2) do not use 'server' installation on a dual boot computer, (or one with data you would like to keep), 3) known unreconcilable hardware problems (windmodems, incompatible peripherals) 4) The steps necessary to create a dual boot machine. I did a portion of my Master's work on usability problems. Much of it based on my long, difficult, and destructive attempts at learning linux. Fortunately I have several computers and don't have to take the chance at destroying my workstation to experiment, most of the computing population doesn't have that advantage. Linux isn't easy but it will have to become easier if it is to become a standard in the business community, and amongst the computing public. Most people don't want to experiment, they would like to use their computer to surf the web, write the odd letter, track their checkbook, and keep records. There is no reason to make things difficult (or impossible) for Joe User. The past 20 years is littered with good ideas, hardware and software that didn't take that unnecessary difficulty into account -- Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843
Re: [newbie] Broken? bad wiring? bug?? Help please.
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 10:49 am, Vic wrote: Ok, what is the url for 7.0-2 tutorial? Tom Brinkman wrote: It's not there anymore for 7.02. I believe you said you have a cdrom (hdc) and a cd-rw (hdd) on the second ide. That is the same as my setup. what is your output from 'ls -l /dev/cdro*' ? -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
[newbie] Where is the 'compress' (*.Z) command on Mandrake 7.2 ?
Need this to uncompress a .tar.Z file and it's nowhere to be found. I'm not talking about gzip, zip, unzip, nor bzip2, but plain old 'compress.' Anyone have it on their Mandrake 7.2 distribution? If not, where can I download it? Thanks. =Keith __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Adding memory to 7.1
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday 17 January 2001 01:58 pm, Victor Richardson wrote: I want to add another 128 megs of RAM to my 7.1 (kernel 2.4.0.0-13mdk) system and was wondering if there is anything special I need to do or look out for. Most directions imply that added RAM hould be auto detected on reboot, or change the setting in LILO or GRUB. If your motherboard/bios is correctly reporting ram now (ie, you don't need an 'append=xxxM' in lilo/grub), then Linux wiil see the added ram as long as your bios does. So watch the bios screen during boot to see if it reports the new total ram installed. Your motherboard docs prob'ly recommend slots to use for multiple sticks of ram, so check there first. Sometimes even if your MoBo sees it and lilo shows it on bootup, it doesn't show up in the Control Centerinformationmemory. I still had to do the append="mem=256M" to get it to show up under Control Center and subsequently see an increase in speed on the screen. Don't know why that is cause I was in 7.2 and KDE2.0 then 2.1beta??? So just in case, check in Control Center after you put in the new stick. -- Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843
Re: [newbie] KDE or Gnome
i may as well jump in also. =) i like Enlightenment as user. not the fastest nor best for using less memory, but i'm all about the eye candy. KDE as root, as it's easier to get around... lots of tools... more "dummy proof" in my mind, and when i'm root i want to do what i need to do get out before i break something. =) Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
opps... i mean, Hi James (wasn't trying to call you a name or something) =) my fingers sometimes i don't think they listen to my brain. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Adrian Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1:47:01 PM 1/17/01 Hi Jame. i assume you are responding to the paragraph you quoted. if this is so, then Sridhar wrote that, not me (Adrian). tho i do agree with him.
Re: [newbie] Where is the 'compress' (*.Z) command on Mandrake 7.2 ?
use tar. "man tar" - Original Message - From: "Keith Christian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: [newbie] Where is the 'compress' (*.Z) command on Mandrake 7.2 ? Need this to uncompress a .tar.Z file and it's nowhere to be found. I'm not talking about gzip, zip, unzip, nor bzip2, but plain old 'compress.' Anyone have it on their Mandrake 7.2 distribution? If not, where can I download it? Thanks. =Keith __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] How does one uncompress files?
http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/tar/tar_toc.html will tell you a lot. Tar will take care of *.tar and *.gz files, *.sh are normally shell scripts, you would run these scripts. For instance if you had a file named install.sh, you would run this script by typing "./install.sh" without the quotes of course. I do think there are several GUI interfaces for these packages, but I prefer the ol' command line. I think you can even handle these type files in Konqueror, never tried. Fred - Original Message - From: pogo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] How does one uncompress files? Fred All of them. Tar, gz and sh. Are they internal commands or have a program like winzip.?Can you do it from the gui or do you have to go to the dos? - Original Message - From: Fred Schroeder To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] How does one uncompress files? rpm is not really a compression tool, but a package manager, but anyway you can find more information on it at www.rpm.org most of the compressed files are also tarred, most of the time you can uncompress them and untar them at the same time with "tar -zxvf filename" But you can type "man tar" at the command line to get more details. Which files are you needing help with? Fred - Original Message - From: pogo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: [newbie] How does one uncompress files? I am having problems understanding how to uncompress programs or files.Is there a doc that would explain rpm and other de-compression tools?
Re: [newbie] How does one uncompress files?
Fred All of them. Tar, gz and sh. Are they internal commands or have a program like winzip.?Can you do it from the gui or do you have to go to the dos? - Original Message - From: Fred Schroeder To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] How does one uncompress files? rpm is not really a compression tool, but a package manager, but anyway you can find more information on it at www.rpm.org most of the compressed files are also tarred, most of the time you can uncompress them and untar them at the same time with "tar -zxvf filename" But you can type "man tar" at the command line to get more details. Which files are you needing help with? Fred - Original Message - From: pogo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: [newbie] How does one uncompress files? I am having problems understanding how to uncompress programs or files.Is there a doc that would explain rpm and other de-compression tools?
Re: [newbie] Mandrakesoft CEO defends Linux
Hi Jame. i assume you are responding to the paragraph you quoted. if this is so, then Sridhar wrote that, not me (Adrian). tho i do agree with him. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Mellema [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:58:51 AM 1/17/01 Adrian Smith wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:12:43 AM 1/15/01 I personally don't like this solution, but it's yet another way for Linux (and Mandrake) to gain market share (at the expense of becoming more like M$). I believe that if anyone is stupid enough not to understand the already very user-friendly Mandrake Drakx, then they shouldn't be using Linux at all. What do everyone else here think? Adrian, For egotistical reasons I am tempted to agree with you, but I think in the real world that's a poor way to look at the problems here. Everyone had to learn somehow, but just because you and I learned in the school of hard knocks doesn't mean everyone has to. There is no reason to need an advanced degree in comp sci to use a computer. If you want the computer to be a tool it has to be usable by those that need it. If you want it to be an ego trip for the cognoscenti then what you say is true. The Drake tools are very good and easy to use for those of us with more than a smattering of technical knowledge. But without better documentation they are a huge barrier for the average user. Some of the problems I see with Mandrake are trying to use the server install instead of workstation, (I wiped out 3 gigs of webpages, graphics files, and programs on ide2) probably 20 installs before I figured out a reasonable partitioning scheme, multiple development programs an libraries which just take space and are not usable for most users, multiple programs which are extraneous for the majority of users (i.e. text editors, mail programs, web tools, system monitors, and sound/video multimedia programs). I would like to see a documentation link on the splash screen as you open the installation program. Ideally it could be in pdf format and open a pdf client that would give simple steps to the installation process. This could also define terms and give examples of what is necessary for a minimum install, as well as provide warnings about terminal (as in kill your computer) problems. Some examples could be: 1) install linux prior to WIN2K, 2) do not use 'server' installation on a dual boot computer, (or one with data you would like to keep), 3) known unreconcilable hardware problems (windmodems, incompatible peripherals) 4) The steps necessary to create a dual boot machine. I did a portion of my Master's work on usability problems. Much of it based on my long, difficult, and destructive attempts at learning linux. Fortunately I have several computers and don't have to take the chance at destroying my workstation to experiment, most of the computing population doesn't have that advantage. Linux isn't easy but it will have to become easier if it is to become a standard in the business community, and amongst the computing public. Most people don't want to experiment, they would like to use their computer to surf the web, write the odd letter, track their checkbook, and keep records. There is no reason to make things difficult (or impossible) for Joe User. The past 20 years is littered with good ideas, hardware and software that didn't take that unnecessary difficulty into account -- Jim -- James Mellema, MA CRNA -- Linux User # 71650 ICQ #19685870
Re: [newbie] Patch
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 08:37 pm, you wrote: On Wednesday 17 January 2001 06:16 am, s wrote: Thanks for the info. rpmpackager doesn't show it and can't find it. When I try to download it from rpmfind I get one of the d*** password requests again. What's up with that? Are only certain people allowed to download from these places? I checked around the site and the faq and nothing said about passwords, registering or anything. *I'm getting soo frustrated.* What are you tryin to d/l it with? Some sites use login = anonymous, password = your_email_address. This is mostly so they can block you out if you misbehave. Most all d/l apps including the CL ftp utilities have provisions for sending user/passwd. You have to check the app or utility you're using. Konqueror I guess. I click on it when browsing in konqueror and sometimes it works, but sometimes it don't. Right click, save as sometimes. I've tried the email as password thing. Are you saying I need to get some kind of downloader? -s
[newbie] local unix-win microlan
hiho, im trying to set up a unix-win microlan (how it is called in the mandrakeuser.org-guide) and ive followed the steps as described in the guide at mentioned adress: unix side : ethernet card is recognized eth0 modules are loaded without probs local ip adress configured by ifconfig to 192.168.0.1 route add -net 192.168.0.0 eth0 . set win and unix machine entries in the /etc/hosts file win2k side properties for local connection : TCP/IP : 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 (unix side too) set DNS of my isp and entered the unix box as gateway so far everything seems to be ok..but i cant ping the machines...neither win from unix nor unix from win.always reaches a timeout, has somebody a point regarding this i might have missed ? furthermore id have a question regarding the difference between ip masq/proxy/micro lan: ip masq howto tells me that if one uses ip masq the server would NOT act as a proxy and the clients would be DIRECTLY connected to the internet through the server, although for the external network all clients would have the ip of the server. so how is this meant ?..what is the difference to the proxy server then ? and can i also do connection sharing without masq but only the "win/unix microlan" ? would be glad if somebody can bring some light into this, cause id really like to "understand" what im doing ;) regards, --quay -- -Quaylar- Icq# 30932448 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Knowledge is power
Re: [newbie] Where is the 'compress' (*.Z) command on Mandrake 7.2 ?
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 03:47 pm, Keith Christian wrote: Need this to uncompress a .tar.Z file and it's nowhere to be found. I'm not talking about gzip, zip, unzip, nor bzip2, but plain old 'compress.' Anyone have it on their Mandrake 7.2 distribution? If not, where can I download it? Archiver handles .tar.Z files. Just click on it, Archiver will come up and show you what's contained, then you can extract to a location of your choice. I imagine you could do the same with 'tar' on a CL, but I don't really know. I've used Archiver exclusively for some time. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
