Re: [newbie-it] stampa con Gimp
Il dom, 2001-12-23 alle 15:20, Daniele Morabito ha scritto: Hei provato con lpr -Plp0 Saluti Giovanni Mazzamati Non mi riesce di ottenere nessuna stampa anche con i tuoi suggerimenti Ma non accade proprio nulla? Pensavo di avere lo stesso problema, in realtà succedeva che mi compariva l'immagina in questione con la barra di progresso printing che andava via via colmandosi, mentre in realtà il processo di stampa vero e prorpio partiva *al termine* di questa fase; inoltre ci sono noti problemi riguardo le stampanti con la 8.1 (noti i problemi, le soluzioni più o meno...); io ho una Stylus Photo 810 connessa a una porta USB (la parallela da ancor più problemi) e sono a volte costretto a staccare e riattaccare lo spinotto perchè capita che il sistema operativo a volte cessi di vedermi il device /dev/usb/lp0... Dovresti provare a far partire Configurazione WWW CUPS (nel Menù sotto Stampa) con il quale controllare l'effettivo stato della stampante, che potrebbe risultare spenta o dare lo stesso problema di device non rilevato, come succede a me. Questa soluzione è stata adottata anche da altri utenti, a quanto mi risulta. Spero di essere stato utile, ciao! Corrado
[newbie-it] nessun oggetto
Salve a tutti sono Alberto dalla Sicilia. Ho un piccolo problema con linux mandrake 8.1 Mi spiego ho un pc un modem adsl e un mac Il pc ha 2 schede di rete una per collegare il modem adsl e l'altra per collegare il mac. A questo punto ho configurato il Linux per pppoe e collegarsi a internet tramite il modem adsl! Tutto ok! Il mac vede anche Linux! Il problema nasce quando cerco di navigare col mac! Infatti non ci riesco Ho configurtato tutto cosi': eth0 10.0.0.10 e ci ho collegato il modem adsl eth1 192.168.0.1 e ci ho attaccato il mac Al mac ho dato 192.168.0.2 Ma adesso il problema é: Che defaltgateway devo settare sul mac? e sul linux? E come si convince linux a fare da router per il mac? E sopratutto da dove devo settare tutte queste belle cose su linux? Non ci capisco molto ; ( Al primo che rispondera' correttamente alla mia richiesta e permettera' il corretto funzionamento della mia minirete verra' recapitata a casa la mucca Carolina ; ) Grazie. Ciao
Re: [newbie] A bit dangerous
I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the startup screen. doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): YEs, time for a forum article This time, I thought, HOWTO make windows unbootable Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Real Player Plugin
Dennis Herndon wrote: I have installed the RealPlayer Plugin into Netscape 6.2 for Linux. When I go to my work site (npr.org) to listen to a real-audio file, I keep getting an error that says that I have some conflict with the audio being opened. Audio does work, I have the KDE startup and exit music, I can play CD audio as well. I also have play audio from various games. In this multi-user environment, what else should I check for to see what could be taking away the audio from Real Player? I'm using LM 8.1 and I think the RealPlayer is from the 7.2 cdrom, because I had problems installing RP 8.0. I can't offer you a fix for this but I have found that certain games which use the sound, e.g Ltris or LBreakout (even if you switch of sound in these games) tend to grab the soundcard and then not let it go when I've finished - not a very technical description I admit. I can only get it back for playing audio if I reboot the machine. You may find that if you start Realplayer before using any of these that it will work. Oh, and try switching off the system sounds as well - they may be doing the same thing. I'm sure that there are people in this list that could offer more sophisticated and technical advice whereby you can have both game/system sounds and audio. Personally I find the former a luxury that I can live without. Graham Watkins Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
I installed the Java runtime environment and it was easy to do and works fine. And now the Konqueror browser runs Applets too (better than IE 5.1 under OS X does, I might add, which is the only OS X browser so far to support Java). But why doesn't Mandrake Linux install the Java runtime environment to start with? Surely everybody wants to use it, right? doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): Doug ; Try Star Office 6.0 Beta (it's a Beta but very stable!) at www.sun.com or better yet, try Openoffice at www.openoffice.org get the 641b version for Linux and/or Windows. Includes full compatibility for MS Office XP ! and it's totally FREE ! In Either case, make sure that you get a Java Runtime Environment package running before you install the office suite. You'll want j2re - 1.3.1 for either Windows or Linux. Get that at www.java.sun.com We've been using it at the office for months without a problem on 37 PC's. Lanman P.S. Merry Christmas ! On Monday 24 December 2001 12:22 pm, you wrote: What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for: Spreadsheets Word Processing PowerPoint Presentations What do people think of Hancom Office at http://www.hancom.com. That package looks unbelievable for $49! How about the office stuff that is included with KDE? Kpresenter does not seem to be PowerPoint compatible, right? doug Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
What does openoffice want to know during installation about the Java runtime environment. I can't figure it out... doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): Doug ; Try Star Office 6.0 Beta (it's a Beta but very stable!) at www.sun.com or better yet, try Openoffice at www.openoffice.org get the 641b version for Linux and/or Windows. Includes full compatibility for MS Office XP ! and it's totally FREE ! In Either case, make sure that you get a Java Runtime Environment package running before you install the office suite. You'll want j2re - 1.3.1 for either Windows or Linux. Get that at www.java.sun.com We've been using it at the office for months without a problem on 37 PC's. Lanman P.S. Merry Christmas ! On Monday 24 December 2001 12:22 pm, you wrote: What office suites do people recommend? I need to be compatible with Microsoft Office to at least *some* extent for: Spreadsheets Word Processing PowerPoint Presentations What do people think of Hancom Office at http://www.hancom.com. That package looks unbelievable for $49! How about the office stuff that is included with KDE? Kpresenter does not seem to be PowerPoint compatible, right? doug Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Spam
Has anyone had experience with spam filters - I am thinking of those routines which will identify spammed messages and send relevant data to the growing spam filter servers? I have had a cursory look at spamassassin and mailscanner but have not got either running successfully. Having had this new account for two weeks only, I am now starting to receive spam and would like to do my bit to reduce this annoying menace. Any help would be much appreciated. Regards -- Alan Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coming to you from a Microsoft - free zone Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: Cannot send email to list..?
Merry Christmas to all, especially Civileme, Sridhar, Ed, Tom and all of you helpful people ! Who can help Mick (a fellow-newbie in need) ? - He had a hard time setting up his new linux-mandrake-system, and I've tried to help him to the best of my ability. After some hazzles he succeeded to get his linux-box up and running, but now he somehow can't post to this list ??? - I wrote to Mick as follows : Well Mick, I'm not sure, but it seems that it's the Mandrake-server that refuses to accept your mail ? Anyway, I can see that you are using some mailer called Microsoft Outlook Express. As far as I know, that mailer is better known as a virus propagator and trojan horse dispenser, so maybe the folks at Mandrake have taken their precautions - eh ? Furthermore, I can see that your mail is in html-format. - Most people on our list prefer to receive mail in plain text - not that I think it matters much ? Mick, I'm in no way a mail-guru, so the right place to ask your question is the list. However, it seems that you are unable to do that right now ! - Accordingly I'll put it there for you. Help Mick anyone ??? Mick wrote: Hello Kaj, Have you ever come across this before. As of a day or two ago, I can no longer post to the newbie list on Mandrake. My emails are constantly being returned as errors. I called my ISP and asked them to look into the matter. I can recieve email from the list, so I am still subscribed to it. I am including the latest error message from my ISP if it'll help. I can also send and recieve email from everyone else in my address book, but not 'to' the 'Newbie' list! I even tried using my wifes machine to post to the list, still nothing. Even more annoying, is the fact that since I have tried to setup a network and Connection Sharing configuration in 'Control Center' and failed, I can no longer recieve email or reach a web address using my Linux box! I don't suppose there is an undo button?? I have tried to quit the network connection between my box and the wifes computer, but this has not helped. It seems there are settings set on my Linux box that is stopping it from using an ordinary Internet connection using it's own modem. If you can advise, please send it my way, if not hey here goes another install! Merry Christmas. Mick Here's the error message: Sorry, your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could not be delivered. The specific error is: The 'To' address [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rejected by the remote server. This is permanent error, and the message will not be retried any further. === Original Message Follows === Received: from therese (206.135.73.24) by MAIL (MailMax 4. 8. 2. 0) with ESMTP id 67640780 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:59:24 -0800 PST Message-ID: 002c01c18c40$896863c0$fd00a8c0@therese From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:02:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Just a test. Mick --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META content=3Dtext/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type META content=3DMSHTML 5.00.2614.3500 name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Hi,/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Just a test./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Mick/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220-- === End Original Message === *** This message was automatically generated by the MailMAX Error Responder *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A bit dangerous?
On Monday, December 24, 2001, at 08:30 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: Not really. But then again Mac OS 9 does the same thing. You can click on any partition on the Desktop and then choose Initialize from the Special Menu and without a single word or warning the partition is initialized! doug Well thats not true at all. First of all Mac OS 9 won't let you initialize the startup partition/disk at all. You have to boot from another volume/CD to do that. This is the prompt you get The disk 'USS ENTERPRISE' could not be erased, because it is the startup disk, which contains the active system software. Next when you go to initialize a volume which you CAN format you get this warning Completely erase 'DEEP SPACE NINE' (ATA Bus 0 Dev 0, v3.2.5)? So as you can see you get warnings whenever you go to format a disk or drive for any reason under Mac OS 9. Where did you get the without a single word or warning the partition is initialized from? --- Linux is Luke. FreeBSD is Yoda. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Has our list-server got X-MAS hiccups ?
Merry Christmas to all, especially Civileme, Sridhar, Ed, Tom and all of you helpful people ! Who can help Mick (a fellow-newbie in need) ? - He had a hard time setting up his new linux-mandrake-system, and I've tried to help him to the best of my ability. After some hazzles he succeeded to get his linux-box up and running, but now he somehow can't post to this list ??? - I wrote to Mick as follows : Well Mick, I'm not sure, but it seems that it's the Mandrake-server that refuses to accept your mail ? Anyway, I can see that you are using some mailer called Microsoft Outlook Express. As far as I know, that mailer is better known as a virus propagator and trojan horse dispenser, so maybe the folks at Mandrake have taken their precautions - eh ? Furthermore, I can see that your mail is in html-format. - Most people on our list prefer to receive mail in plain text - not that I think it matters much ? Mick, I'm in no way a mail-guru, so the right place to ask your question is the list. However, it seems that you are unable to do that right now ! - Accordingly I'll put it there for you. Help Mick anyone ??? Mick wrote: Hello Kaj, Have you ever come across this before. As of a day or two ago, I can no longer post to the newbie list on Mandrake. My emails are constantly being returned as errors. I called my ISP and asked them to look into the matter. I can recieve email from the list, so I am still subscribed to it. I am including the latest error message from my ISP if it'll help. I can also send and recieve email from everyone else in my address book, but not 'to' the 'Newbie' list! I even tried using my wifes machine to post to the list, still nothing. Even more annoying, is the fact that since I have tried to setup a network and Connection Sharing configuration in 'Control Center' and failed, I can no longer recieve email or reach a web address using my Linux box! I don't suppose there is an undo button?? I have tried to quit the network connection between my box and the wifes computer, but this has not helped. It seems there are settings set on my Linux box that is stopping it from using an ordinary Internet connection using it's own modem. If you can advise, please send it my way, if not hey here goes another install! Merry Christmas. Mick Here's the error message: Sorry, your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could not be delivered. The specific error is: The 'To' address [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rejected by the remote server. This is permanent error, and the message will not be retried any further. === Original Message Follows === Received: from therese (206.135.73.24) by MAIL (MailMax 4. 8. 2. 0) with ESMTP id 67640780 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:59:24 -0800 PST Message-ID: 002c01c18c40$896863c0$fd00a8c0@therese From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:02:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Just a test. Mick --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META content=3Dtext/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type META content=3DMSHTML 5.00.2614.3500 name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Hi,/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Just a test./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Mick/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220-- === End Original Message === *** This message was automatically generated by the MailMAX Error Responder *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is an anti-virus mandatory ?
For a workstation you shouldn't need antivirus software - it's normally only necessary for servers where people are uploading stuff like Word documents (e.g. someone using MS Word on a virtual drive could in theory infect their files on that drive). A virus, in the strict sense of the word, can't do much, if anything, on a Linux system. As someone (on this list?) pointed out, to infect a linux box with a classic e-mail ploy, you'd have to do something like this: Dear user, Please copy the attached file foo to your home directory, or better still, if you have root priveleges, somewhere like /usr/bin. Then type chmod a+x foo. Hit return, type ./foo and hit return again. There are a few worms that can get into a Linux system, but again you should only be worried if you're running a server - for normal workstation purposes, it's enough to set security on Mandrake to medium. Robin [ © ª N ª ® i º JØË ]¹ wrote: Mandrake-group: I wonder whether · an antivirus is mandatory for Mandrake and, if positive, · which one is recommended. Is there any good open source antivirus (for workstations) ? Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Ø©Eªnº - þªT®iª - NØsT®ª] Tuesday, December 25, 2001, 0:02:34 [Islas Canarias, GMT]. end of file Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:25:10 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Thanks, Steven. Well, everybody seems quite psyched abotu OpenOffice and StarOffice. I will give those a try. Nobody seems to mention Hancom Office. Has anybody tried them? Of course free is nice, but I am not a fanatic about not purchasing software - particularly if it is nice. I think the success of Linux will depend on people being able to support themselves by developing it, and developing applications for it. I've never tried Hancom, simply because once I tried StarOffice (started w/5.0 and have used them all up to my present 6.0), I didn't look any further. Even 5.x was able to flawlessly open and edit a 55 page Excel budget document, and then when necessary (for less *enlightened* workers) convert *back* to Excel format for sharing purposes. Word docs have been no problem at all and most (though some have been problematic) PowerPoint presentations have worked also!! I think you'll be impressed. If you have a dial-up connection, you may wish to *buy* the disc from Sun (only a few dollars, much lass than the $49 hancom wants), or if you use broadband the download is absolutely free, though you must register (also totally free). Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Cannot send email to list..?
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 13:03:56 +0100, Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Merry Christmas to all, especially Civileme, Sridhar, Ed, Tom and all of you helpful people ! Thanks! Same to you. Mick wrote: Hello Kaj, Have you ever come across this before. As of a day or two ago, I can no longer post to the newbie list on Mandrake. My emails are constantly being returned as errors. I called my ISP and asked them to look into the matter. I can recieve email from the list, so I am still subscribed to it. I am including the latest error message from my ISP if it'll help. I can also send and recieve email from everyone else in my address book, but not 'to' the 'Newbie' list! I even tried using my wifes machine to post to the list, still nothing. The newbie list's address was probably blacklisted by the ISP. This is often triggered when the list server continuously tries to send messsages to a full mailbox (any box held on the ISP's servers). Mick will have to try to clear things up with the ISP. Even more annoying, is the fact that since I have tried to setup a network and Connection Sharing configuration in 'Control Center' and failed, I can no longer recieve email or reach a web address using my Linux box! I don't suppose there is an undo button?? I have tried to quit the network connection between my box and the wifes computer, but this has not helped. It seems there are settings set on my Linux box that is stopping it from using an ordinary Internet connection using it's own modem. If you can advise, please send it my way, if not hey here goes another install! Sorry, don't know this one. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Windows 2000, Users Zilch. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
MandrakeSoft has a policy of not supplying closed-source software. In the download edition, the only exception to this rule (out of necessity) is Netscape 4. On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 18:44:09 +0900, Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed the Java runtime environment and it was easy to do and works fine. And now the Konqueror browser runs Applets too (better than IE 5.1 under OS X does, I might add, which is the only OS X browser so far to support Java). But why doesn't Mandrake Linux install the Java runtime environment to start with? Surely everybody wants to use it, right? doug -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Technically, Windows is an 'operating system,' which means that it supplies your computer with the basic commands that it needs to suddenly, with no warning whatsoever, stop operating. -- Dave Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:44 am, you wrote: I installed the Java runtime environment and it was easy to do and works fine. And now the Konqueror browser runs Applets too (better than IE 5.1 under OS X does, I might add, which is the only OS X browser so far to support Java). But why doesn't Mandrake Linux install the Java runtime environment to start with? Surely everybody wants to use it, right? Its possibly a licensing issue. Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 7.2 ISO's
Hi, I still have them here if you still need them - but I don't have a server where you can download them, what snailmail address do you have ? On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:11, you wrote: Hi Guys, I'm looking for an old copy of the 7.2 ISO's. I've tried repeatedly to install 8.0 and 8.1 on my antique beast(133/64MB), however it will only install w/ the 2.2 kernel (it WILL NOT boot the 2.4 worth crap). Now I can get it to install and boot 2.2 but as most of the packages have been optimized for 2.4, as has the install, it does not work that well. If anyone knows where I can grab a copy of 7.2 I would greatly appreciate it. Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Stephen Kitchener Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore
On Monday 24 December 2001 20:15, you wrote: I went to Control Center Boot Boot Config, but Windows was already there. Clicking on Modify for that entry didn't really seem to indicate anything wrong - it was still specified as being on the second partition, which is where it is... doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): On Monday 24 December 2001 12:28, you wrote: Hmmm... Mandrake Linux 8.1 is working fine, but if I restart the machine and choose windows at the startup screen, my Windows 2000 parition won't load. Any suggestions as to what I might try? Thanks, Doug Lerner, Tokyo I think you just need to give the lilo a little more help. Go into the Mandrake Control Center, (icon on the KDE Desktop or the start button K configurationotherMandrake Control Center. Give your root password, Then click on the + sign on Boot then boot config. Check the screen over to familiarize yourself with what is there, and then click on the box in the upper right that says configure. It will pop up a screen with the boot loader choice you saw at install, click ok, then in the next screen click on add and you will have a choice of linux or windows, choosing windows takes you into the setup screen for your windows stuff and from there it should be self explanatory. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Now I don't know what to tell you if lilo won't boot it, maybe windows doesn't like being second. Wiser heads must now help. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM problem
just edit the hidden file ~/.kde/share/config/kscdrc (The ~ means it is in your home directory) Where it says CDDevice=/dev/cdrom change that to /dev/hdc It should be OK then The CD-RW comes up as SCSI because Linux CD burning apps can ONLY use SCI devices, so your kernel emulates SCSI on your IDE drive. Hope that helps derek On Tuesday 25 December 2001 03:51, Barbara Pfieffer wrote: I have 2 cdroms, a DVD and a CD burner. When I first installed 8.1, I could play music cds on the DVD drive. Harddrake currently reports the drives as: DVD /dev/hdc CD burner /dev/hdd but it also reports the burner again as /dev/scd0. I have nothing SCSI in my computer. When I try to play a music cd now, it tells me to make sure I have access permissions to /dev/cdrom In /dev I currently have: lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 16 Dec 24 15:14 cdrom - ../cdroms/cdrom0 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 13 Dec 24 15:14 cdrom0 - cdroms/cdrom0 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 13 Dec 24 15:14 cdrom1 - cdroms/cdrom1 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 13 Dec 24 15:14 cdrom3 - cdroms/cdrom3 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 13 Dec 24 15:14 cdrom4 - cdroms/cdrom4 cdroms: total 0 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 9 11:48 ./ drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31 1969 ../ lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 33 Dec 31 1969 cdrom0 - ../ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd brw---1 bjp cdrom 11, 0 Dec 2 09:54 cdrom1 brw---1 bjp cdrom 11, 0 Dec 9 11:48 cdrom3 brw---1 bjp cdrom 11, 0 Nov 24 16:36 cdrom4 What's going on and how can I get my music playing again? Thanks! Barbara Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
Maybe if they make an exception for Netscape, another good exception would be Java... doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): MandrakeSoft has a policy of not supplying closed-source software. In the download edition, the only exception to this rule (out of necessity) is Netscape 4. On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 18:44:09 +0900, Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed the Java runtime environment and it was easy to do and works fine. And now the Konqueror browser runs Applets too (better than IE 5.1 under OS X does, I might add, which is the only OS X browser so far to support Java). But why doesn't Mandrake Linux install the Java runtime environment to start with? Surely everybody wants to use it, right? doug -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Technically, Windows is an 'operating system,' which means that it supplies your computer with the basic commands that it needs to suddenly, with no warning whatsoever, stop operating. -- Dave Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CDROM problem
At 09:51 PM 12/24/2001 -0600, Barbara Pfieffer wrote: I have 2 cdroms, a DVD and a CD burner. When I first installed 8.1, I could play music cds on the DVD drive. Harddrake currently reports the drives as: DVD /dev/hdc CD burner /dev/hdd but it also reports the burner again as /dev/scd0. I have nothing SCSI in my computer. If your CD burner is an IDE drive then the ide-scsi driver is loaded so that it'll work with CD burning programs under Linux. That's why it's installed as /dev/scd0. There should be a symbolic link to /dev/cdrom# also. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dependency tree
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 18:53:06 -0600 Michael Viron [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: just like that? but what if it can't find them? then what? you're still the same place you were before. In the dark without a clue as to why. no thanks. I'd rather know why something isn't working and then learn and know how to fix it rather then let the software do all my thinking for me. urpmi is not a graphical based client. This means that any error messages will get dumped to the screen, which means that you'll see them. I can't imagine why it wouldn't be able to find the dependency rpms for you, since it has access to the ftp copies of the install (ie, all 2 - 3,000 rpms), unless perhaps it is a not a standard Mandrake rpm. Michael Michael, it could be that it's just me being anal. I have been known to get that way from time to time. For me at least being a dialup connection as yet I just don't put that much trust into something that is at the mercy of a modem connection. If, on the other hand I had a hard connection like a full-time LAN connection or cable that might make the difference. however, you have peaked my curiosity in getting to know this utlility. I'll have to look into this a bit more. see what you've started now? :P -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 9:05am up 9 days, 54 min, 2 users, load average: 0.18, 0.65, 0.41 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] is an anti-virus mandatory ?
hi robin. is there a detailed description as to what each mandrake security level entails (e.g. what settings are changed)? also, is there a way to change the level easily after installation? thx and happy holidays! :) At 14:39 01/12/25 +0200, you wrote: There are a few worms that can get into a Linux system, but again you should only be worried if you're running a server - for normal workstation purposes, it's enough to set security on Mandrake to medium. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 7.2 ISO's
Thanks, that's just what I needed :) On Tue, 2001-12-25 at 00:28, Grant Fraser wrote: http://linux.unige.ch/install/mandrake/7.2/iso/ http://www.planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/7.2/iso/i586/8.1/ On Monday 24 December 2001 20:11, you wrote: Hi Guys, I'm looking for an old copy of the 7.2 ISO's. I've tried repeatedly to install 8.0 and 8.1 on my antique beast(133/64MB), however it will only install w/ the 2.2 kernel (it WILL NOT boot the 2.4 worth crap). Now I can get it to install and boot 2.2 but as most of the packages have been optimized for 2.4, as has the install, it does not work that well. If anyone knows where I can grab a copy of 7.2 I would greatly appreciate it. Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 24 December 2001 20:11, you wrote: Hi Guys, I'm looking for an old copy of the 7.2 ISO's. I've tried repeatedly to install 8.0 and 8.1 on my antique beast(133/64MB), however it will only install w/ the 2.2 kernel (it WILL NOT boot the 2.4 worth crap). Now I can get it to install and boot 2.2 but as most of the packages have been optimized for 2.4, as has the install, it does not work that well. If anyone knows where I can grab a copy of 7.2 I would greatly appreciate it. Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Themes and Window Managers (was Re: [newbie] Unable to install: Kernel Panic)
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 15:19:39 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: On Monday 24 December 2001 02:35 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: ok...but what does one do when you get the theme and it doesn't have a themerc file in the tarball? theme no good...waste time...get frustrated cause theme no work. the one single thing I absolutely HATE about kde-2.x. the renowned theme support of the KDE desktop sucks in any version above kde-1.1.2. I just don't get it. The why of or the theme for that matter. Well, how do you really feel Mark? ; My solution is to get Mandrake rpms. There's a how-to for the tarballs, but it's been too long and I don't remember where or what install'in .tgz themes involves. I seem to remember they're all sort'a different. Anyhow, best places for themes are Penguin Liberation Front http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/linux/plf/ Texstar http://www.pclinuxonline.com Painless, just install the rpm's and they show up under the Control Center | Look'n Feel options. Like most, I really like Liquid, but I use it with System++ decorations and different colors. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas, USA Aaaah...thank you Tom! that did the trick. as always...you're my hero. I noticed though that this theme doesn't seem to have an rc file. Or, does it and I've missed it somehow. And how exactly does one become a member of the P.L.F.? Because I want to sign up and serve my Penguin! -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 10:05am up 9 days, 1:55, 2 users, load average: 0.30, 0.31, 0.34 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Please....
I read and reply to these emails on a palm pilot please use text email only thank you... _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
Michael Scottaline wrote: On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:25:10 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Thanks, Steven. Well, everybody seems quite psyched abotu OpenOffice and StarOffice. I will give those a try. Nobody seems to mention Hancom Office. Has anybody tried them? Of course free is nice, but I am not a fanatic about not purchasing software - particularly if it is nice. I think the success of Linux will depend on people being able to support themselves by developing it, and developing applications for it. I've never tried Hancom, simply because once I tried StarOffice (started w/5.0 and have used them all up to my present 6.0), I didn't look any further. Even 5.x was able to flawlessly open and edit a 55 page Excel budget document, and then when necessary (for less *enlightened* workers) convert *back* to Excel format for sharing purposes. Word docs have been no problem at all and most (though some have been problematic) PowerPoint presentations have worked also!! I think you'll be impressed. If you have a dial-up connection, you may wish to *buy* the disc from Sun (only a few dollars, much lass than the $49 hancom wants), or if you use broadband the download is absolutely free, though you must register (also totally free). Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Actually, we wrote to Hancom and tried to get a demo for the 8.1 release, but they weren't yet ready. I will take a look in the next week or so. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Has our list-server got X-MAS hiccups ?
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 07:13, you wrote: Merry Christmas to all, especially Civileme, Sridhar, Ed, Tom and all of you helpful people ! Who can help Mick (a fellow-newbie in need) ? - He had a hard time setting up his new linux-mandrake-system, and I've tried to help him to the best of my ability. After some hazzles he succeeded to get his linux-box up and running, but now he somehow can't post to this list ??? - I wrote to Mick as follows : Well Mick, I'm not sure, but it seems that it's the Mandrake-server that refuses to accept your mail ? Anyway, I can see that you are using some mailer called Microsoft Outlook Express. As far as I know, that mailer is better known as a virus propagator and trojan horse dispenser, so maybe the folks at Mandrake have taken their precautions - eh ? Furthermore, I can see that your mail is in html-format. - Most people on our list prefer to receive mail in plain text - not that I think it matters much ? Mick, I'm in no way a mail-guru, so the right place to ask your question is the list. However, it seems that you are unable to do that right now ! - Accordingly I'll put it there for you. Help Mick anyone ??? big snip You might try just resubscribing to the list. Turn off the html format first and then subscribe. Some times some of us have been lost in a shuffle or reboot of the server or something and subscribing again fixes it. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gateway/router help update
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:26:38 -0800 ajax [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: routing tables. My only problem now is that when I restart the network or reboot I lose my changes to my routing table. Is there any way to stop this? What config file would this be in? Thanks ajax, In order for you to keep the routing rules you're telling the firewall to use while it's running you will have to code the rules in a bash script and have it run at startup. this script can be as plain and simple as a series of commands that you would enter on the command line in a terminal, or as complex as a fule blown dynamic bash program script. the choice is yours and also depends upon your coding abilities and application needs. If it's just some static rules that you want to install each time the firewall is started up then simply code this commands into a simple bash script and save the file to /etc/rc.d/init.d, chmod it to 755 and then add a line to the end of /etc/rc.local reading something like this: /etc/rc.d/init.d/extra-chains -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 9:05am up 9 days, 54 min, 2 users, load average: 0.18, 0.65, 0.41 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Cannot send email to list..?
Kaj Haulrich wrote: Merry Christmas to all, especially Civileme, Sridhar, Ed, Tom and all of you helpful people ! Who can help Mick (a fellow-newbie in need) ? - He had a hard time setting up his new linux-mandrake-system, and I've tried to help him to the best of my ability. After some hazzles he succeeded to get his linux-box up and running, but now he somehow can't post to this list ??? - I wrote to Mick as follows : Well Mick, I'm not sure, but it seems that it's the Mandrake-server that refuses to accept your mail ? Anyway, I can see that you are using some mailer called Microsoft Outlook Express. As far as I know, that mailer is better known as a virus propagator and trojan horse dispenser, so maybe the folks at Mandrake have taken their precautions - eh ? Furthermore, I can see that your mail is in html-format. - Most people on our list prefer to receive mail in plain text - not that I think it matters much ? Mick, I'm in no way a mail-guru, so the right place to ask your question is the list. However, it seems that you are unable to do that right now ! - Accordingly I'll put it there for you. Help Mick anyone ??? Mick wrote: Hello Kaj, Have you ever come across this before. As of a day or two ago, I can no longer post to the newbie list on Mandrake. My emails are constantly being returned as errors. I called my ISP and asked them to look into the matter. I can recieve email from the list, so I am still subscribed to it. I am including the latest error message from my ISP if it'll help. I can also send and recieve email from everyone else in my address book, but not 'to' the 'Newbie' list! I even tried using my wifes machine to post to the list, still nothing. Even more annoying, is the fact that since I have tried to setup a network and Connection Sharing configuration in 'Control Center' and failed, I can no longer recieve email or reach a web address using my Linux box! I don't suppose there is an undo button?? I have tried to quit the network connection between my box and the wifes computer, but this has not helped. It seems there are settings set on my Linux box that is stopping it from using an ordinary Internet connection using it's own modem. If you can advise, please send it my way, if not hey here goes another install! Merry Christmas. Mick Here's the error message: Sorry, your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] could not be delivered. The specific error is: The 'To' address [EMAIL PROTECTED] was rejected by the remote server. This is permanent error, and the message will not be retried any further. === Original Message Follows === Received: from therese (206.135.73.24) by MAIL (MailMax 4. 8. 2. 0) with ESMTP id 67640780 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:59:24 -0800 PST Message-ID: 002c01c18c40$896863c0$fd00a8c0@therese From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 22:02:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Just a test. Mick --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META content=3Dtext/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type META content=3DMSHTML 5.00.2614.3500 name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Hi,/FONT/DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Just a test./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Mick/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_0029_01C18BFD.7A8C8220-- === End Original Message === *** This message was automatically generated by the MailMAX Er For network connection sharing, 1. eth0 should be your local network connection 2. On connected computers, dhcp protocol should be set Get an address automatically Under Network NeighborhoodTCP/IPPropertiesIP Address 3. On connected computers the gateway _must_ be set to 192.168.0.1 4. eth1 should be connnected to the internet by whatever means you use as standard unless you use a modem. Default gateway device should be eth1 or ppp0 as appropriate. Now nexbie mail might be rejected if the subscriber's email is not correct, but usually with a confirmation message allowing non-subscribers to post anyway. Your rejection is quite odd. While we have had other users request information on rejecting Outlook from their servers entirely because the viruses like SirCam are eating up too much space and bandwidth, I don't think we have implemented our own advice on our servers. Civileme QA Team Want to buy your Pack or
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 11:44, you wrote: But why doesn't Mandrake Linux install the Java runtime environment to start with? Probably because it is not free (in the FSF sense of the word), but a proprietary product licensed at no charge (for now) by Sun. Surely everybody wants to use it, right? ^^^ Not really, it's the first thing I switch off whenever I install a browser on any OS. Bandwidth is precious and costly down here and the fewer silly pieces of eye-candy I have clogging it up, the better. Of course I am not entirely consistent in this. My addiction to doonesbury.com finally made me cave in and install Flash! -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n nx dmnstrtn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: MandrakeSoft has a policy of not supplying closed-source software. In the download edition, the only exception to this rule (out of necessity) is Netscape 4. Just out of curiosity, why 4.* not 6.*? I installed Netscape 6.2 on our office machine (partly so Windows users could use something familiar, partly because of KMail's all-or-nothing policy about deleting mail from the POP server). It's a bit of a RAM-eater, but quite nice apart from that, and much better than that horrible buggy 6.0. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
Doug Lerner wrote: I installed the Java runtime environment and it was easy to do and works fine. And now the Konqueror browser runs Applets too (better than IE 5.1 under OS X does, I might add, which is the only OS X browser so far to support Java). But why doesn't Mandrake Linux install the Java runtime environment to start with? Surely everybody wants to use it, right? doug Yes, and everyone with an NVidia card probably wants to use the NVidia drivers, but both have license agrements that make them non-free software. With the exception of Netscape 4.7x, we don't have very many sins like that on the downloadable edition, and we have excised other items that hgave licensing problems, like pine, a very popular mailer, and parts of some video display programs like xawtv and AKtion. Netscape will go as soon as we have a viable substitute, and a free software equivalewnt of Java will be included as soon as one is available. MAndrakesoft is committed to free software. All the Mandrake Tools are licensed under the GNU GEneral Public License and source is available. Find another major distro that does that! For information on free software licenses and what they mean, go to www.fsf.org. Consider this: Once upon a time, the European Cernter for Nuclear Research wrote a program to allow the use of hypertext transfers across the internet, and the University of Indiana Urbana Campus also prepared some client software for it, among others. It was all government-funded research, so the results were all public domain and were collectively called Mosaic. One company took Mosaic and added a few features to make a very popular commercial browser (at the time) called Netscape. NAother made an enhancement and offered the browser with its internet service, That one was able to sell its version to a company called microsoft for a generous percentage of gross sales. Meanwhile, some people patched and patched again the server side of Mosaic, putting their patches and its source under the GPL. It was very patchy after a while, and being the punsters they are and thinking part of the fun is the name of the software, they called it Apache. The point is that all had their beginnings in free software, actually public domain. One became a closed commercial product which was actually sold, another became an instrument whereby a very rich corporation illegally extinguished competition, and the third just about owns the internet and has continued intensive development without any client lists changing hands or pop-up ads being added Guess which one is free software in the fsf definition? So anyway Java has an unpalatable license and is closed source, which is considered a _bad_ thing by free software efforts. If we cannot see the source, we can't audit for security flaws or maintain the software. If we can't see the source, then we can't protect people from backdoors or booby traps or stability bugs written into the code. As I said, projects are underway to provide a free alternative to Java, and it is there our hope lies. Now the commercial distribution, with demos on CD of real commercial software has StarOffice (with real links to our menus) and Java (several versions) which you can load, but you do have to click on license agreements. We even offer NVidia drivers which really work with full acceleration, but only off the commercial CDs, because they are closed source or partially so and have licenses that make them non-free software. Civileme Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Has our list-server got X-MAS hiccups ?
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 07:13, Kaj typed: Have you ever come across this before. As of a day or two ago, I can no longer post to the newbie list on Mandrake. My emails are constantly being returned as errors. I called my ISP and asked them to look into the matter. I can receive email from the list, so I am still subscribed to it. I am including the latest error message from my ISP if it'll help. I can also send and receive email from everyone else in my address book, but not 'to' the 'Newbie' list! I even tried using my wifes machine to post to the list, still nothing. -- Tue Dec 25 11:23:34 2001 61degF and cloudy Happy holidays Y'all I had this problem just last week...I could not post to newbie , although I could receive OK...and I could not resub as the MDK server refused to accept anything from me Other people in my address book received my messages OK it seemed but then I discovered that anyone on AOL was not getting them either. My problem turned out to beas I was fooling with Kmail I misspelled worldnet in the from line as wroldnet but the reply to address was spelled correctly. most ISP's do not check to see if a sender uses a valid addressbut evidently AOL and newbie does? as they rejected my messages.I suppose that is a anti spam thing? double check those spellings, I overlooked that one a dozen times...also look for a random period that you finger may have put in by itself? like the tester once said (paraphrased)those tiny viruses get their sharp little claws into my keyboard -- Olly P. Biloxi Mississippi Linux MDK 8.0 and Kmail 2.1.1 ATX Plll 600mhz Asus CUBX ...384m PC133ram 11:37am up 58 min, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A bit dangerous
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote: I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the startup screen. Maybe, post your lilo.conf Also explain which drine/partition windows is on. We might see something, else its difficult to help Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:44 am, Doug Lerner wrote: I installed the Java runtime environment and it was easy to do and works fine. And now the Konqueror browser runs Applets too (better than IE 5.1 under OS X does, I might add, which is the only OS X browser so far to support Java). But why doesn't Mandrake Linux install the Java runtime environment to start with? Surely everybody wants to use it, right? doug Mandrake does install java (rpm -qa kaffe) If you go to this link http://www.kaffe.org/ you'll see that Kaffe is free as in beer, but more importantly, free as in speech. The other versions of java you can d/l (eg, Sun, Blackdown) are not and are not supplied with the fully open source Mandrake versions (eg, d/l edition). I believe there's probly licensing issues invloved to. 'Course every rule has an exception, so Netscape while closed source is currently included, but probly won't be as soon as Mozilla reaches version 1.0. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Setting Samba acts like DOMAIN for local intranet.
Hi, Before, I setup Samba for my local intranet. At that time, I setup at workgroup mode an now I want to setup at DOMAIN mode. It mean everyone on my local network (using Windows) MUST log on to this server. I don't know where do I start (I never try this before). Do I have to setup my Linux SERVER act like DOMAIN controller first? How do I write down on smb.cfg file(global declaration)? Or if you can please send me a sample of smb.cfg file. Thank you Tuan Ps. I know how to setup windows clients access to domain. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore
Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 24 December 2001 20:15, you wrote: I went to Control Center Boot Boot Config, but Windows was already there. Clicking on Modify for that entry didn't really seem to indicate anything wrong - it was still specified as being on the second partition, which is where it is... doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): On Monday 24 December 2001 12:28, you wrote: Hmmm... Mandrake Linux 8.1 is working fine, but if I restart the machine and choose windows at the startup screen, my Windows 2000 parition won't load. Any suggestions as to what I might try? Thanks, Doug Lerner, Tokyo I think you just need to give the lilo a little more help. Go into the Mandrake Control Center, (icon on the KDE Desktop or the start button K configurationotherMandrake Control Center. Give your root password, Then click on the + sign on Boot then boot config. Check the screen over to familiarize yourself with what is there, and then click on the box in the upper right that says configure. It will pop up a screen with the boot loader choice you saw at install, click ok, then in the next screen click on add and you will have a choice of linux or windows, choosing windows takes you into the setup screen for your windows stuff and from there it should be self explanatory. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Now I don't know what to tell you if lilo won't boot it, maybe windows doesn't like being second. Wiser heads must now help. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com You are addressing a windows issue Win2K has its own bootloader, which will boot various windows versions. While we mormally have no problem with this, it seems to break down once a non-windows partition has been encountered in the chain. In other words, if you want it to work, dump linux, reinstall w2k to that first partition, copy over your data, then install Mandrake in the second position. This will work handily. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OCR and Voice recognition software
I am looking for a good set of Optical Character Recognition and voice recognition software for Linux, and possibly FreeBSD. I am using a HP 5300C scanner, and a mic thru the sound card. Thanks Bob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
robin wrote: Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: MandrakeSoft has a policy of not supplying closed-source software. In the download edition, the only exception to this rule (out of necessity) is Netscape 4. Just out of curiosity, why 4.* not 6.*? I installed Netscape 6.2 on our office machine (partly so Windows users could use something familiar, partly because of KMail's all-or-nothing policy about deleting mail from the POP server). It's a bit of a RAM-eater, but quite nice apart from that, and much better than that horrible buggy 6.0. Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, 6 is pretty much the same as Mozilla, with fewer bugs in Mozilla and no pop-up ads or links to sell your secrets by AOL, plus it takes up a huge amount of space and we are already 3cds full, and Java is separable, not supplied as part of the package, and finally we have no agreement to distribute it. It isn't even on the Commercial CDs last I looked. Netscape is there because we need a java-enabled browser compatible with most sites. No one is really building sites to be Netscape 6 compatible (5% market share) though they still try to be compatible most times with netscape 4. The future belongs to Konqueror and/or Mozilla or the various gecko engine browsers like Galeon, insofar as free software goes. Opera and Netscape 6 are not free and will probably find a place on the commercial CDs if there is adequate demand. We do occasional browser polls on Mandrakeforum to gauge such demand, so it might be a good idea if you go there occasionally. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Internet Connection and NIC's
Ok. I am up and running on the internet under my linux machine. A friend gave me an internal hardware modem and i can now dial up and surf. But i wasnt until i removed the nic in my machine. It kept wanting to port out thought the nic to get to the internet. i would like to reinstall it and start a home network but could not get around this problem. Can anyone tell me how i can configure it to support both connections? I'm running LM 8.1 Thanks, roy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Themes and Window Managers (was Re: [newbie] Unable to install: Kernel Panic)
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 10:40 am, Mark Weaver wrote: On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 15:19:39 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Penguin Liberation Front http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/linux/plf/ Texstar http://www.pclinuxonline.com Painless, just install the rpm's and they show up under the Control Center | Look'n Feel options. Like most, I really like Liquid, but I use it with System++ decorations and different colors. Aaaah...thank you Tom! that did the trick. as always...you're my hero. Kind words, tho I'm sure some in these parts regard me as the village idiot ; I noticed though that this theme doesn't seem to have an rc file. Or, does it and I've missed it somehow. I dunno, didn't even look, I just really like Mosfet's Liquid, and Guillaume made it painless (Texstar too, MOF, I believe it's Tex's rpm I'm usin). And how exactly does one become a member of the P.L.F.? Because I want to sign up and serve my Penguin! Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] He's the one to contact. But I don't think he's any kind of zealous movement leader, just one of the Mandrake folks makin some stuff that can't be included in Mandrake due to evil lincensing/copywrite/closed source issues available to us peasants ; If you can cypher French, trim his PLF URL back a bit and visit his home page. eg, http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/ -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas, USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Internet Connection and NIC's
Quite likely to be an Interrupt conflict. Try seeing if you can force it in the BIOS or maybe the modem has jumpers to select IRQ. derek On Tuesday 25 December 2001 21:38, you wrote: Ok. I am up and running on the internet under my linux machine. A friend gave me an internal hardware modem and i can now dial up and surf. But i wasnt until i removed the nic in my machine. It kept wanting to port out thought the nic to get to the internet. i would like to reinstall it and start a home network but could not get around this problem. Can anyone tell me how i can configure it to support both connections? I'm running LM 8.1 Thanks, roy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting Samba acts like DOMAIN for local intranet.
It's actually smb.conf, not smb.cfg. In order to run samba as a Primary Domain Controller (PDC) you must: 1. Be running samba 2.2.x or later on the linux server 2. Have accounts for all users in your company on the linux PDC, or appropriate lines in /etc/samba/smbusers As for setting it up, try taking a look at http://www.samba.org for step-by-step instructions and / or the file /etc/samba/smb.conf (which contains all the stuff (albeit commented out) that you need for a samba-based PDC). You can also send questions regarding specific problems to the list, of course. Although we don't mind helping you, you need to do a little research / setup yourself first. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 01:29 PM 12/25/2001 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Before, I setup Samba for my local intranet. At that time, I setup at workgroup mode an now I want to setup at DOMAIN mode. It mean everyone on my local network (using Windows) MUST log on to this server. I don't know where do I start (I never try this before). Do I have to setup my Linux SERVER act like DOMAIN controller first? How do I write down on smb.cfg file(global declaration)? Or if you can please send me a sample of smb.cfg file. Thank you Tuan Ps. I know how to setup windows clients access to domain. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
What do people think about free vs commercial software in general? I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a great, loyal customer base. Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software supported and updated? doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): MAndrakesoft is committed to free software. All the Mandrake Tools are licensed under the GNU GEneral Public License and source is available. Find another major distro that does that! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OCR and Voice recognition software
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 17:14, you wrote: I am looking for a good set of Optical Character Recognition and voice recognition software for Linux, and possibly FreeBSD. I am using a HP 5300C scanner, and a mic thru the sound card. Thanks Bob see the sane web page; http://www.mostang.com/sane/ This is probably as good as it gets in any scanning for a desktop. Your 5300c is supported HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): You are addressing a windows issue Win2K has its own bootloader, which will boot various windows versions. While we mormally have no problem with this, it seems to break down once a non-windows partition has been encountered in the chain. In other words, if you want it to work, dump linux, reinstall w2k to that first partition, copy over your data, then install Mandrake in the second position. This will work handily. Civileme I *strongly* suggest this be given as a warning in the installer! doug Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OCR and Voice recognition software
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 17:14, you wrote: I am looking for a good set of Optical Character Recognition and voice recognition software for Linux, and possibly FreeBSD. I am using a HP 5300C scanner, and a mic thru the sound card. Thanks Bob Didn't finish my sentence. the HP 5300C is supported by using the 5200C drivers, so I have heard. I have the 5200C. HTH -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites? Now OT
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 19:17, you wrote: What do people think about free vs commercial software in general? I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a great, loyal customer base. Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software supported and updated? doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): MAndrakesoft is committed to free software. All the Mandrake Tools are licensed under the GNU GEneral Public License and source is available. Find another major distro that does that! Nothing wrong with it until it becomes the only game in town, or you have to update at an exorbitant fee every other year. With the open source programs you can see what's going on under the hood, tinker with it , fix it, or if your like me, break it. And you don't have to pay to reinstall it. The argument has always been that you can't make money with free software. What is software? It is a string of letters and symbols that in effect write a formula for a machine to operate from. I submit that folks have been making a comfortable living by selling their services using the formulas necessary to make air conditioning work, heating systems, internal combustion engines and on and on. All these things are based on public domain mathematics and formulas, but they are packaged and sold to people who want the benefits but don't have the time, knowledge or skills, or all three to make use of the formulas in a useful or productive manner. Intellectual content is ludicrous because, what the mind of one man can concieve of another can too. Case in point Edison and Tesla. Money and deciet won out. The more intelegent person was Tesla IMHO, but the formulas for the electron flows that were developed are used world wide and are free, and a lot of people make a living using them. Closed source is fine because it gives an edge to someone as a starter, but patent laws and copyright laws need to change, because the closed source community is willing to sue at the drop of a hat when someone comes out with a program or process that looks even remotely like what they do even though the thoughts behind the new process may be totally original to the individual presenting them. So you get a multimillion dollar company suing Joe Schmo and guess who will win, the money every time. You've stolen my property! Bah Humbug, ideas are no man's property. MandrakeSoft and some of the others are making a pretty fair run at making money on freesoftware because they are packaging it and presenting it in a manner that someone like me can relate to and finds useful, and they are not charging make me and my company officers filthy rich prices. $100 for an upgrade! Fixing something that should never have been broken in the first place! Thievery I call it. This is my own opinion and totally unsolicited by anyone, : ) -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Open Source (was Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites? Now OT)
This is an interesting discussion. I agree with some of your points, but am not convinced by others. For example, if a company hires a dozen programmers and they spend a year creating and tweaking and debugging code, even if you think the company has no right to the *idea* (I am not convinced of that though), surely they have the right to the code itself, if they so choose? Otherwise somebody could just repackage it with much less effort and no development costs and make profit on the other company's investments. As far as $100 for an upgrade being expensive or not - I guess it depends on what the upgrade is... doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): On Tuesday 25 December 2001 19:17, you wrote: What do people think about free vs commercial software in general? I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a great, loyal customer base. Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software supported and updated? doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): MAndrakesoft is committed to free software. All the Mandrake Tools are licensed under the GNU GEneral Public License and source is available. Find another major distro that does that! Nothing wrong with it until it becomes the only game in town, or you have to update at an exorbitant fee every other year. With the open source programs you can see what's going on under the hood, tinker with it , fix it, or if your like me, break it. And you don't have to pay to reinstall it. The argument has always been that you can't make money with free software. What is software? It is a string of letters and symbols that in effect write a formula for a machine to operate from. I submit that folks have been making a comfortable living by selling their services using the formulas necessary to make air conditioning work, heating systems, internal combustion engines and on and on. All these things are based on public domain mathematics and formulas, but they are packaged and sold to people who want the benefits but don't have the time, knowledge or skills, or all three to make use of the formulas in a useful or productive manner. Intellectual content is ludicrous because, what the mind of one man can concieve of another can too. Case in point Edison and Tesla. Money and deciet won out. The more intelegent person was Tesla IMHO, but the formulas for the electron flows that were developed are used world wide and are free, and a lot of people make a living using them. Closed source is fine because it gives an edge to someone as a starter, but patent laws and copyright laws need to change, because the closed source community is willing to sue at the drop of a hat when someone comes out with a program or process that looks even remotely like what they do even though the thoughts behind the new process may be totally original to the individual presenting them. So you get a multimillion dollar company suing Joe Schmo and guess who will win, the money every time. You've stolen my property! Bah Humbug, ideas are no man's property. MandrakeSoft and some of the others are making a pretty fair run at making money on freesoftware because they are packaging it and presenting it in a manner that someone like me can relate to and finds useful, and they are not charging make me and my company officers filthy rich prices. $100 for an upgrade! Fixing something that should never have been broken in the first place! Thievery I call it. This is my own opinion and totally unsolicited by anyone, : ) -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?
This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over with both Windows and Linux? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/jp106.klt lba32 prompt timeout=50 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount failsafe read-only other=/dev/hda2 label=windows table=/dev/hda Thanks, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote: I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the startup screen. Maybe, post your lilo.conf Also explain which drine/partition windows is on. We might see something, else its difficult to help Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?
hi, just curious, did you do something special with the way you partitioned your harddisk? your linux boot image points out to hda5 which is the first logical partition but your windows entry points out to hda2. i know that this is normal on some circumstances especially if the disk is a product of Ghost or something similar but here in the office 9 windows pc broke down due to some problem with Ghost. as i have said, this is just to satisfy my curiosity and no help is included ;-) ciao! Doug Lerner wrote: This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over with both Windows and Linux? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/jp106.klt lba32 prompt timeout=50 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount failsafe read-only other=/dev/hda2 label=windows table=/dev/hda Thanks, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote: I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the startup screen. Maybe, post your lilo.conf Also explain which drine/partition windows is on. We might see something, else its difficult to help Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Programming, an artform that fights back. = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower ADB Avenue cor. Poveda St. Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kmail dictionary
Where is the point of storage kmail dictionary for backup purposes. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re[2]: Off topic? How things are going with Linux...
Doug Lerner, Mandrake-group: Invest your $ on Apple, and your endevour/project will die under the Apple-boot. Do you know any linux hacker who works on apples ? None. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Ø©Eªnº - þªT®iª - NØsT®ª] Tuesday, December 25, 2001, 1:38:27 [Islas Canarias, GMT]. Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió [25/12/2001, 1:18]: DL Some people say a lot of Linux people are leaving Linux for DL OS X. Have you heard anything about that? I use OS X in my DL daily work, and it is nice, but I am also interested in Linux DL for (1) less dependency on one company (Apple) and (2) cost DL (you can have lots of machines relatively inexpensively) and DL also Linux seems faster than either Windows or OS X. DL Of course the polished application base of both Mac and DL Windows is still better. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] scanners
I've got some Christmas dough burning a hole in my pocket. Can someone suggest a good, reasonably-priced scanner that will work well in Mandrake 8.0 and 8.1? Happy Holidays, SW Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re[2]: Off topic? How things are going with Linux...
None at all? :-) doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): Doug Lerner, Mandrake-group: Invest your $ on Apple, and your endevour/project will die under the Apple-boot. Do you know any linux hacker who works on apples ? None. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [oe§Eªnº - ï¨T®iª - NØsT?¨] Tuesday, December 25, 2001, 1:38:27 [Islas Canarias, GMT]. Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió [25/12/2001, 1:18]: DL Some people say a lot of Linux people are leaving Linux for DL OS X. Have you heard anything about that? I use OS X in my DL daily work, and it is nice, but I am also interested in Linux DL for (1) less dependency on one company (Apple) and (2) cost DL (you can have lots of machines relatively inexpensively) and DL also Linux seems faster than either Windows or OS X. DL Of course the polished application base of both Mac and DL Windows is still better. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?
Hi, No - I didn't do anything special. I started out with two partitions on my hard drive. The first one contained Windows 98 and the second contained Windows 2000. I decided to keep the Win 2000 partition so I clicked on the first partition, deleted it and then pressed auto- allocate. When I did that the Mandrake installer allocated Linux partitions to the area left by the first partition. If the Installer had said something like Warning: if you want to keep Windows make sure to keep it in the first partition I would have kept the Windows 98 and deleted the Windows 2000 partition. doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): hi, just curious, did you do something special with the way you partitioned your harddisk? your linux boot image points out to hda5 which is the first logical partition but your windows entry points out to hda2. i know that this is normal on some circumstances especially if the disk is a product of Ghost or something similar but here in the office 9 windows pc broke down due to some problem with Ghost. as i have said, this is just to satisfy my curiosity and no help is included ;-) ciao! Doug Lerner wrote: This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over with both Windows and Linux? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/jp106.klt lba32 prompt timeout=50 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount failsafe read-only other=/dev/hda2 label=windows table=/dev/hda Thanks, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote: I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the startup screen. Maybe, post your lilo.conf Also explain which drine/partition windows is on. We might see something, else its difficult to help Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Programming, an artform that fights back. = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower ADB Avenue cor. Poveda St. Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?
Doug, Check your address header. You are sending two copies of your mesages to the list. Your windows partition is at hda2 - the second partition on the primary hard drive. That's going to cause a problem. Windows insists that it be the first partition. Changing lilo.conf won't help. The only reliable way to set up a dual (or higher) boot setup with Windows is to install Windows first, let it format the whole drive and then grab as much of the free space as appropriate during the Mandrake install. If you've got bunches of stuff on the Windows partition, you may want to borrow another drive and copy the Win to that. Then reinstall Windows, reformatting the drive FAT32, copy your files back to that drive, make sure you've defragmented the drive and then reinstall Mandrake, having DiskDrake take the total space you need from the Windows partition,setting up your /, /boot, /home, swap, etc. partitions. Most of the stuff I've seen on dual booting does point this out - including the Mandrake documentation. I'm sure that doesn't make you feel any better at this point, however. Good luck. Terry Smith Hatchville, MA On Tue, 2001-12-25 at 20:21, Doug Lerner wrote: This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over with both Windows and Linux? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/jp106.klt lba32 prompt timeout=50 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount failsafe read-only other=/dev/hda2 label=windows table=/dev/hda Thanks, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote: I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the startup screen. Maybe, post your lilo.conf Also explain which drine/partition windows is on. We might see something, else its difficult to help Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com =_1009329671-11608-1600 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wrong Choice of Monitor while installation
This can actually be kind of fun. I changed video boards to an openGL compatible board so I could run Tux Racer. I really screwed up and could not really see on my monitor once Linux booted up. In fact it would not launch X-windows. So I had to actually run XF86config to redo the monitor and video board. So log in as root and run the config file to change your settings. Once it is saved, you should be good to go. Chandresh Prakash wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to this mailing list and I recently tried to install Mandrake 7.2 on my Windows 2000 machine I mistakenly chose the wrong monitor and now everything will work fine till the booting of linux is over and I am not able to see anything. Can anyone pls help me . I am really feeling very helpless. Many Thanx in Advance, Chandresh Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Open Source (was Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites? Now OT)
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 20:08, you wrote: This is an interesting discussion. I agree with some of your points, but am not convinced by others. For example, if a company hires a dozen programmers and they spend a year creating and tweaking and debugging code, even if you think the company has no right to the *idea* (I am not convinced of that though), surely they have the right to the code itself, if they so choose? Otherwise somebody could just repackage it with much less effort and no development costs and make profit on the other company's investments. As far as $100 for an upgrade being expensive or not - I guess it depends on what the upgrade is... doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): On Tuesday 25 December 2001 19:17, you wrote: What do people think about free vs commercial software in general? I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a great, loyal customer base. Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software supported and updated? doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): MAndrakesoft is committed to free software. All the Mandrake Tools are licensed under the GNU GEneral Public License and source is available. Find another major distro that does that! Nothing wrong with it until it becomes the only game in town, or you have to update at an exorbitant fee every other year. With the open source programs you can see what's going on under the hood, tinker with it , fix it, or if your like me, break it. And you don't have to pay to reinstall it. The argument has always been that you can't make money with free software. What is software? It is a string of letters and symbols that in effect write a formula for a machine to operate from. I submit that folks have been making a comfortable living by selling their services using the formulas necessary to make air conditioning work, heating systems, internal combustion engines and on and on. All these things are based on public domain mathematics and formulas, but they are packaged and sold to people who want the benefits but don't have the time, knowledge or skills, or all three to make use of the formulas in a useful or productive manner. Intellectual content is ludicrous because, what the mind of one man can concieve of another can too. Case in point Edison and Tesla. Money and deciet won out. The more intelegent person was Tesla IMHO, but the formulas for the electron flows that were developed are used world wide and are free, and a lot of people make a living using them. Closed source is fine because it gives an edge to someone as a starter, but patent laws and copyright laws need to change, because the closed source community is willing to sue at the drop of a hat when someone comes out with a program or process that looks even remotely like what they do even though the thoughts behind the new process may be totally original to the individual presenting them. So you get a multimillion dollar company suing Joe Schmo and guess who will win, the money every time. You've stolen my property! Bah Humbug, ideas are no man's property. MandrakeSoft and some of the others are making a pretty fair run at making money on freesoftware because they are packaging it and presenting it in a manner that someone like me can relate to and finds useful, and they are not charging make me and my company officers filthy rich prices. $100 for an upgrade! Fixing something that should never have been broken in the first place! Thievery I call it. This is my own opinion and totally unsolicited by anyone, : ) -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Just to add my $1000 worth . . . In my stupider days, I needed an OCR package to convert faxes and submitted articles for my international publication. I was using win 3.1. Well, I bought my first OCR Professional package for a cool grand a) because I needed it and b) because all the reviews raved about it. I installed the package, and it didn't work as advertised. There was no recourse: buyer beware! Within a month, an upgrade became available for only $199! Well, I snapped that one up fast! It didn't work much better. So, I learned how to type -- it was faster and much more accurate than these professional packages. So it went for most of the software I bought for Win, including a very famous relational database package. The support, if you could afford it, basically told me It's your problem: you bought it. I solved my own problems with workarounds, including encrypting passwords as fake dll's . . . sigh! Thievery? Too polite a word! Extortion -- a little too harsh. (Btw: If you're interested in how copyright came about, check back into the book industry's history. It's no wonder why England's Penguin Books would not allow their books to
Re: [newbie] Windows won't start - any suggestions?
hmmnn... i remember that somebody already mentioned that windows stops checking for partitions on the first non-recognized partition and in your case that will be the first partition occupied by linux. but in my meager understanding, lilo was supposed to point to the bootable partition so windows should identify the second partition as the 'first partition' relatively. I know windows 'need' to be on one of the primary partitions of the first drive so that's another dead end. this is the part when i shut up and let others with experience come in. ;-) ciao! Doug Lerner wrote: Hi, No - I didn't do anything special. I started out with two partitions on my hard drive. The first one contained Windows 98 and the second contained Windows 2000. I decided to keep the Win 2000 partition so I clicked on the first partition, deleted it and then pressed auto- allocate. When I did that the Mandrake installer allocated Linux partitions to the area left by the first partition. If the Installer had said something like Warning: if you want to keep Windows make sure to keep it in the first partition I would have kept the Windows 98 and deleted the Windows 2000 partition. doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): hi, just curious, did you do something special with the way you partitioned your harddisk? your linux boot image points out to hda5 which is the first logical partition but your windows entry points out to hda2. i know that this is normal on some circumstances especially if the disk is a product of Ghost or something similar but here in the office 9 windows pc broke down due to some problem with Ghost. as i have said, this is just to satisfy my curiosity and no help is included ;-) ciao! Doug Lerner wrote: This is my lilo.conf. I am not familiar with lilo. Does anybody see anything I might try before trying the more radical idea of starting over with both Windows and Linux? boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b vga=normal default=linux keytable=/boot/jp106.klt lba32 prompt timeout=50 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=failsafe root=/dev/hda5 append= devfs=mount failsafe read-only other=/dev/hda2 label=windows table=/dev/hda Thanks, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tuesday, December 25, 2001): On Tuesday 25 December 2001 04:07 am, you wrote: I would actually like to figure out how make Windows *bootable* again. It doesn't seem to boot even if I choose the Windows option from the startup screen. Maybe, post your lilo.conf Also explain which drine/partition windows is on. We might see something, else its difficult to help Gerald Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Programming, an artform that fights back. = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower ADB Avenue cor. Poveda St. Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Programming, an artform that fights back. = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower ADB Avenue cor. Poveda St. Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore
Well, obviously everybody in the world except for me knew that Windows will not run from the 2nd partition. I will just re-install. The Windows installation is new anyway and I have no real data that is lost. I *do* think a warning in the installer would be a good idea though! doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): On Monday 24 December 2001 09:28, you wrote: Hmmm... Mandrake Linux 8.1 is working fine, but if I restart the machine and choose windows at the startup screen, my Windows 2000 parition won't load. Any suggestions as to what I might try? Thanks, Doug Lerner, Tokyo I had that happen a couple of times (once with NT4.0 and once with W2K). The following assumes that your W2K partition is the first one on your harddrive, and that what probably happened is that lilo was written to the drive's mbr and overwrote the winders bootloader, and that although lilo picked up on the windows installation the windows installation is refusing to boot from anything but it's own loader. If you've installed W2K on the second partition, then it ain't gonna work, Winblows loader wants to be on the first partition. Linux has no such preferences, and lilo will work from any partition. My solution has been to use the NT bootloader to load lilo, which I install on the first partiton of my linux installation. I can't be sure that is what has happened to you, but if it is, it's recoverable, but an extreme hassle involving re-installing Win from the install disks to recover the mbr, after installing lilo on the first partition dedicated to linux (NOT on a partition before W2K), and after making absolutely certain that the linux boot disk works! If you determine that is the problem, the instructions for using the NT (W2K is the same) bootloader are here: http://morse.colorado.edu/itplab/ipv6/dualboot.html And, this method is less than optimal if you use reiserfs, because if reiser goes down its journaling filesystem will recover linux, but you'll have to go through the process of redirecting the winders loader to lilo again. I don't know about ext3, but to be safe you might want to use ext2. e. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] New
Hi, I am new to this mail listing, I dont realy think this mail listing is going to help me but I though I would try any ways. I have been having some troble getting my sound card and my network browsing to work. I am writting this from windows since I can get my e-mail working ether. I wanted to ask a question too. I heard of this program called wine. Can it realy let me play games like star craft on linux? Well I hope this listing helps me make the big step from windows to linux! Thanks all :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] sound blaster audigy
Hi all, I received a new sound blaster audigy for christmas! I'd say yay! except I can't seem to get it working in linux. sndconfig tells me that the card is currently unsupported. I've tried searching the archives and the web but can't seem to find much out. Does anyone out there know if it is supported, or how (and IF) I can get it working? TIA, --Gina Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New
Thanks for the vote of confidence. There are many people on this list who can help you help yourself. Most questions can be answered with a Google search. I.e. mandrake 8.1 brand of sound card There are lots of instructions on networking as well. It would help to know what you consider a network. Just like if I were to help you bake cookies I would need to know what kind of cookies you were looking for. As for wine, Transgaming is best but you have to pay. Everything else works with varying degrees of success. Search the message archives. On Tuesday 25 December 2001 19:53, you wrote: Hi, I am new to this mail listing, I dont realy think this mail listing is going to help me but I though I would try any ways. I have been having some troble getting my sound card and my network browsing to work. I am writting this from windows since I can get my e-mail working ether. I wanted to ask a question too. I heard of this program called wine. Can it realy let me play games like star craft on linux? Well I hope this listing helps me make the big step from windows to linux! Thanks all :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 21:53:22 -0600 Ricky Parks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am new to this mail listing, I dont realy think this mail listing is going to help me but I though I would try any ways. I have been having some troble getting my sound card and my network browsing to work. I am writting this from windows since I can get my e-mail working ether. I wanted to ask a question too. I heard of this program called wine. Can it realy let me play games like star craft on linux? Well I hope this listing helps me make the big step from windows to linux! Thanks all :) what makes you think this list wont help you? this can help in more ways than one ;-) to play games for windows, you are better-off with WineX which is wine with DirectX support. I have been able to run counterstrike in it and starcraft to some degree. for a better howto go to the mandrakeuser.org board as there is a never-dying thread about compiling winex... here is the link: http://mandrakeuser.org/mub/viewtopic.php?topic=3005forum=8106 and check out the board also as it holds a great deal of information from users. ciao! -- Programming, an artform that fights back. === Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower ADB Ave. cor. Poveda St., Ortigas Center, Pasig City, Philippines 1605 Tel no: (632) 6383070 loc 75 === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
Doug Lerner wrote: What do people think about free vs commercial software in general? I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a great, loyal customer base. Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software supported and updated? doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): MAndrakesoft is committed to free software. All the Mandrake Tools are licensed under the GNU GEneral Public License and source is available. Well, commercial software for a specific purpose is OK. We are attempting to prove that alternative business models that do not restrict technical information _are_ viable. The linux distros that follow heavily commercial models are SuSE with a proprietary installer, Caldera with per-seat licensing, and to a much smaller extent, RedHat. Debian is pretty much GPL, as is Connectiva, and I have no idea about Slackware, As for my own feeling. I could be working for more money somewhere else as a developer or system administrator. I am with Mandrakesoft instead because I think technical information belongs to the human race as a whole. There is too much potential for a corporation to keep something secret, or to buy out developments and restrict them because current technology hasn't been milked dry yet. I personally know of an engine with two moving parts, no pollution, constant torque from 0 to 1rpm, and 40 km/l kerosene and virtually no pollution. It was bought by a major manufactutrer and promptly disappeared. There are disease cures that are unprofitable to produce and so are squelched, as well. Somewhere, technically savvy people needed to take a stand and show that profit motive is not necessarily related to progress... That people also work for love of the art and an inner sense of accomplishment. As to the actions of Microsoft and its predatory practices, I find them the worst example of what is motivated by profit, something obscene and reprehensible. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 21:53:22 -0600 Ricky Parks [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Hi, I am new to this mail listing, I dont realy think this mail listing is going to help me but I though I would try any ways. I have been having some troble getting my sound card and my network browsing to work. I am writting this from windows since I can get my e-mail working ether. I wanted to ask a question too. I heard of this program called wine. Can it realy let me play games like star craft on linux? Well I hope this listing helps me make the big step from windows to linux! Thanks all :) well, to get your sound card working you can use Mandrake Control Center-hardware-hardware, then find your sound card amongst the other pieces of hardware listed there and run the configuration wizard for your particular sound card. that sould take care of that one. As far as network browsing... could you be a little more specific as to what kind of network browsing you're refering to? would that be on a LAN or the internet type? are you connecting to the internet through a LAN or a modem dialup? It matters because the setups are a bit different. As for Wine and your games... well, once you've mastered getting configuring your sound card, getting connected to the internet and getting your email running you'll be ready to tackle setting up and running Wine. It's not that it's particularly difficult as it requires a bit of familiarity with the system that you're asking to run programs that are foriegn to the OS. Namely running games that were made for windows on a Linux machine. -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 11:05pm up 9 days, 14:54, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore
Doug Lerner wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): You are addressing a windows issue Win2K has its own bootloader, which will boot various windows versions. While we mormally have no problem with this, it seems to break down once a non-windows partition has been encountered in the chain. In other words, if you want it to work, dump linux, reinstall w2k to that first partition, copy over your data, then install Mandrake in the second position. This will work handily. Civileme I *strongly* suggest this be given as a warning in the installer! doug Do you think anyone would read it? I had to deal with an expert who could not find the Update button just days ago. He was so used to OK on the right and Cancel on the left that he missed that it was install and Update. Yes, I will pass that suggestion to the install team. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Off topic? How things are going with Linux...
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:18:12 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Some people say a lot of Linux people are leaving Linux for OS X. Have you heard anything about that? I use OS X in my daily work, and it is nice, but I am also interested in Linux for (1) less dependency on one company (Apple) and (2) cost (you can have lots of machines relatively inexpensively) and also Linux seems faster than either Windows or OS X. Of course the polished application base of both Mac and Windows is still better. doug thats the most disgusting, vile fabrication I've ever heard. what on earth would ever cause a Linux developer to want to do something So haneously atrocious? the very thought is just plain gross! -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 11:05pm up 9 days, 14:54, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:23:41 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): You are addressing a windows issue Win2K has its own bootloader, which will boot various windows versions. While we mormally have no problem with this, it seems to break down once a non-windows partition has been encountered in the chain. In other words, if you want it to work, dump linux, reinstall w2k to that first partition, copy over your data, then install Mandrake in the second position. This will work handily. Civileme I *strongly* suggest this be given as a warning in the installer! doug actually, I believe it is mentioned. you've just got to read a bit. then again, the installation has become so much more automagically easier since I started eons ago with redhat where you actually had to read the install manuals before doing anything, make a boot floppy with rawrite, and then boot the floppy and so on. Not like now where you can simply place the cd in the tray and boot the cd. Of course, unless you choose expert mode and actually do the partitioning yourself you can't tell the installer where you want to place the installation of Linux. And that requires some reading that is in the documentation. Last I checked everything that a guy/girl needed to know about a Mandrake install cohabitating with other OS's is well documented and readily available on the net. Especially at the MandrakeSoft website/forums/Expert... etc. course I like one of the solutions best. Just place the Cd in the tray and tell it to install after booting the Cd. totally wipes and partitions the drive completely erradicating ALL traces of Windows. :) but thats just me and not everyone wants to be windows free. -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 11:05pm up 9 days, 14:54, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:50:43 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Well, obviously everybody in the world except for me knew that Windows will not run from the 2nd partition. I will just re-install. The Windows installation is new anyway and I have no real data that is lost. I *do* think a warning in the installer would be a good idea though! it's *in* the *documentation* that you must *read* -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 11:05pm up 9 days, 14:54, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 23:52:03 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: MandrakeSoft has a policy of not supplying closed-source software. In the download edition, the only exception to this rule (out of necessity) is Netscape 4. i thought netscape was open source software? -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 11:05pm up 9 days, 14:54, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 23:27:47 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Maybe if they make an exception for Netscape, another good exception would be Java... how's that? -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 11:05pm up 9 days, 14:54, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New
Ricky Parks wrote: Hi, I am new to this mail listing, I dont realy think this mail listing is going to help me but I though I would try any ways. I have been having some troble getting my sound card and my network browsing to work. I am writting this from windows since I can get my e-mail working ether. I wanted to ask a question too. I heard of this program called wine. Can it realy let me play games like star craft on linux? Well I hope this listing helps me make the big step from windows to linux! Thanks all :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Yes, code weavers wine will work fine with StarCraft and some other DirectX games. As to your sound card and network setup Hmmm network is probably configuration, but sound card is more likely unsupported hardware or something like the Dell version of the Aureal (Turtle Beach) sound cards which never had any drivers but windows drivers made especially for Dell (since it was different from the standard TBS cards marketed for other systems). Email should be relatively easy again as long as you have internet connectivity. You do have to get used to having several different mailer programs and possibly to giving them information you can get from your ISP. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows dual-boot after the fact?
Just out of curiosity along this thread, is there any point in trying to fiddle with a slave drive with Win98 on it to get it to dual-boot? I placed the drive off of my old computer onto the new (Linux-only) one to get the data off of it. However Linux has not been as nice as expected about compatability with Windoze-designed programs, so the option to dual-boot has become a possibility again. What I'm gathering from this thread is that this is a dead duck, however. TIA, David Reynolds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:15:02 -0800 Grant Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the vote of confidence. snip There are many people on this list who can help you help yourself. Most questions can be answered with a Google search. I.e. mandrake 8.1 brand of sound card There are lots of instructions on networking as well. It would help to know what you consider a network. Just like if I were to help you bake cookies I would need to know what kind of cookies you were looking for. As for wine, Transgaming is best but you have to pay. Everything else works with varying degrees of success. Search the message archives. snip only the pre-built binaries have fees. you can download the source and compile your own. i have and it works. ciao! -- Programming, an artform that fights back. === Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer 25/F Equitable-PCI Tower ADB Ave. cor. Poveda St., Ortigas Center, Pasig City, Philippines 1605 Tel no: (632) 6383070 loc 75 === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
A very interesting take on it, Civil-san. I myself hope for a good mix. The company I work for is quite decent, provides EXCELLENT support for the specialized software we sell and our customers love us and become friends. But it is expensive because it just takes a lot of time to upkeep and develop new features for, and it is not a mass-market item. So it remains proprietary. Actually, it is sort of a proprietary/open mix because the add-on scripts we provide are all open source. doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): Doug Lerner wrote: What do people think about free vs commercial software in general? I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a great, loyal customer base. Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software supported and updated? doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): MAndrakesoft is committed to free software. All the Mandrake Tools are licensed under the GNU GEneral Public License and source is available. Well, commercial software for a specific purpose is OK. We are attempting to prove that alternative business models that do not restrict technical information _are_ viable. The linux distros that follow heavily commercial models are SuSE with a proprietary installer, Caldera with per-seat licensing, and to a much smaller extent, RedHat. Debian is pretty much GPL, as is Connectiva, and I have no idea about Slackware, As for my own feeling. I could be working for more money somewhere else as a developer or system administrator. I am with Mandrakesoft instead because I think technical information belongs to the human race as a whole. There is too much potential for a corporation to keep something secret, or to buy out developments and restrict them because current technology hasn't been milked dry yet. I personally know of an engine with two moving parts, no pollution, constant torque from 0 to 1rpm, and 40 km/l kerosene and virtually no pollution. It was bought by a major manufactutrer and promptly disappeared. There are disease cures that are unprofitable to produce and so are squelched, as well. Somewhere, technically savvy people needed to take a stand and show that profit motive is not necessarily related to progress... That people also work for love of the art and an inner sense of accomplishment. As to the actions of Microsoft and its predatory practices, I find them the worst example of what is motivated by profit, something obscene and reprehensible. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore
Actually, that is not true. It is not in the documentation. When I was installing I followed along with the documentation. The step in question is at: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/doc/81/en/user.html/ formatpartitions.html That section does not include a single word about being careful of Windows partitions. Again, I do think it is important to include (in both the documentation and the installer) at least one warning line like: Warning: Windows partitions must be in the first partition in order to boot from Linux. doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:50:43 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Well, obviously everybody in the world except for me knew that Windows will not run from the 2nd partition. I will just re-install. The Windows installation is new anyway and I have no real data that is lost. I *do* think a warning in the installer would be a good idea though! it's *in* the *documentation* that you must *read* -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 11:05pm up 9 days, 14:54, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Off topic? How things are going with Linux...
Well, like I said it was just one thing I heard in one report. I don't know or even think it is true, if for no other reason than sheer cost! doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:18:12 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Some people say a lot of Linux people are leaving Linux for OS X. Have you heard anything about that? I use OS X in my daily work, and it is nice, but I am also interested in Linux for (1) less dependency on one company (Apple) and (2) cost (you can have lots of machines relatively inexpensively) and also Linux seems faster than either Windows or OS X. Of course the polished application base of both Mac and Windows is still better. doug thats the most disgusting, vile fabrication I've ever heard. what on earth would ever cause a Linux developer to want to do something So haneously atrocious? the very thought is just plain gross! -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 11:05pm up 9 days, 14:54, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 23:27, you wrote: Doug Lerner wrote: What do people think about free vs commercial software in general? I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a great, loyal customer base. Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software supported and updated? doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): MAndrakesoft is committed to free software. All the Mandrake Tools are licensed under the GNU GEneral Public License and source is available. Well, commercial software for a specific purpose is OK. We are attempting to prove that alternative business models that do not restrict technical information _are_ viable. The linux distros that follow heavily commercial models are SuSE with a proprietary installer, Caldera with per-seat licensing, and to a much smaller extent, RedHat. Debian is pretty much GPL, as is Connectiva, and I have no idea about Slackware, As for my own feeling. I could be working for more money somewhere else as a developer or system administrator. I am with Mandrakesoft instead because I think technical information belongs to the human race as a whole. There is too much potential for a corporation to keep something secret, or to buy out developments and restrict them because current technology hasn't been milked dry yet. I personally know of an engine with two moving parts, no pollution, constant torque from 0 to 1rpm, and 40 km/l kerosene and virtually no pollution. It was bought by a major manufactutrer and promptly disappeared. There are disease cures that are unprofitable to produce and so are squelched, as well. Somewhere, technically savvy people needed to take a stand and show that profit motive is not necessarily related to progress... That people also work for love of the art and an inner sense of accomplishment. As to the actions of Microsoft and its predatory practices, I find them the worst example of what is motivated by profit, something obscene and reprehensible. Civileme Exactly! -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spam
On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:47:10 + Alan Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: Has anyone had experience with spam filters - I am thinking of those routines which will identify spammed messages and send relevant data to the growing spam filter servers? I have had a cursory look at spamassassin and mailscanner but have not got either running successfully. Having had this new account for two weeks only, I am now starting to receive spam and would like to do my bit to reduce this annoying menace. Any help would be much appreciated. Regards -- Ala Alan, I've found _the_ two most effective means of de-spamming your mail on a Linux machine is procmail and the header_check feature in Postfix/Sendmail. when filtering from the MTA it's quite powerful. Whether filtering on the client side with procmail, or filtering on the server side with your local MTA, (that would be the mailserver right there on your Linux machine) both methods will require you to do some research and reading before you can actually implement the filtering scheme. ONce you've gotten this underway though killing spam becomes somewhat of a onesided game. you 100 spammers 0 know what I mean? -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 11:05pm up 9 days, 14:54, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 22:53, Ricky Parks typed: Hi, I am new to this mail listing, I don't really think this mail listing is going to help me but I though I would try any ways. I have been having some trouble getting my sound card and my network browsing to work. I am writting this from windows since I can get my e-mail working ether. I wanted to ask a question too. I heard of this program called wine. Can it realy let me play games like star craft on linux? Well I hope this listing helps me make the big step from windows to linux! Thanks all :) - Tue Dec 25 22:22:11 2001 Yep Ricky...I am positive this list can and will help you...it is the best source of information I have found ,and is populated with the most knowledgable people (the actual users of this operating system). In order to get help though, there are some things you must dotake each problem one at a time, and read all you can find about that specific thingthen attempt to accomplish the task. when you run astray. post to this list with a specific question...including the information needed to understand what you are working with...version, program, what trouble you are having...what hardware you are trying to run it on...etc Only then can anyone look into the crystal ball and help. I cannot address wine as I don't use it...but some like it... don't give up...this stuff will work. good luck. -- Olly P. Biloxi Mississippi Linux MDK 8.0 and Kmail 2.1.1 ATX Plll 600mhz Asus CUBX ...384m PC133ram I don't know who my grandfather was; I am much more concerned to know what his grandson will be. -- Abraham Lincoln 10:35pm up 2:02, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Open Source (was Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites? Now OT)
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:30:18 +0900 Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: A little common sense can apply here. Certainly there are some examples that are obvious. For example, the letter a is obviously public domain. But C code that actually does something useful and was created with the effort of a developer - that is obviously different, isn't it? Dirt anybody can find in the ground. It doesn't mean that a beautiful clay pot that somebody creates then belongs to everybody, does it? doug Ed! I think he just called your code dirt!! -- daRcmaTTeR - If at first you don't succeed do what your wife told you to do the first time! Registered Linux User 182496 Mandrake 8.1 - 11:05pm up 9 days, 14:54, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Recommended office suites?
The whole point of the existance of multiple GNU/Linux distros is to offer the user choice over what they want. Each distro has its own philosophy, and is made to suit the needs of a particular audience. There _are_ distros that bundle a lot of closed source tools alongside open source ones -- Mandrake Linux just isn't one of them. I personally prefer Mandrake this way, because I have great respect for the free software community. If I wasn't using Mandrake, I would probably be using Debian. On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:17:26 +0900, Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do people think about free vs commercial software in general? I myself don't object to commercial software. In fact, I work for a company that makes very high-quality commercial software with a great, loyal customer base. Surely there is nothing wrong with paying to have software supported and updated? doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wednesday, December 26, 2001): MAndrakesoft is committed to free software. All the Mandrake Tools are licensed under the GNU GEneral Public License and source is available. Find another major distro that does that! -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Hey, that is an implementation issue, not a design issue, so that's the point where I don't care all that much any more. I'd not be all that likely to use this feature (I still do zcat file.tar.gz | tar xvf - instead of using tar zxvf file.tar.gz, because I'm an old-fashioned old fogey. I don't need my tar-files auto-mounted for me). -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RAID question-ATA133 hard disc and hard discs connection
Hi Civileme Merry Christmas Thanks for your competent advice and time spent. I would only consider true RAID, hardware RAID in practical use. In parallel, I would not skip software RAID to envisage my knowledge in this respect. Maybe in some days late it will replace hardware RAID. B.R. Stephen At 12:43 PM 12/23/2001 -0900, you wrote: On Sat, 2001-12-22 at 23:04, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi All People, Merry X'mas I have some further RAID questions to ask : 1) Can ATA-133 hard drive be used on RAID controller available on market such RAID 0, 1, 0+1 etc. with cable for ATA100/ATA133. No special designed controller is needed ? Yes, but there is no support for the fake hardware RAID in 8.1. Read support is sort-of there to allow compatibility with reading a Windows RAID but there is no support for using the software RAID in the PROM on the RAID controller that is actually a BIOS extenstion. You folks don't know you are paying $30-60 extra to a hardware vendor for a BIOS extension PROM? Or that the software in there is protected by kaw from reverse engineering so that being compatible with the WinRAID controller is at the mercy of whatever scraps of infor the manufacturer will give us? Do yourselves a favor. Don't buy the fake RAID unless you really need it for windows. Even then, real hardware RAID is preferable and available here: http://www.arcoide.com/ And for info on the open source RAID project to provide some compatibility with the WinRAIDs, go here: http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/pdcraid/ If you want to know which controllers support full 133 cable speed, check this: http://www.linux-ide.org/chipsets.html Of course you can use a 133 drive on a lesser controller--no harm done. You just cannot get full speed out of it. Finally, if you are considering buying new IDE equipment, be aware of which of it is actively supporting linux by checking here: http://www.linux-ide.org/endorsements.html In particular, one of the brands not listed is a source of continuing problems just to get the disk geometry right and should never, ever be used above ATA / 33 on any machine though they rate themselves for 66, 100 and 133 without the hardware on board the drive to meet the standard. And if you ask them they will tell you in no uncertain terms that they don't support linux. Linux has its own software RAID which covers modes 0, 1, 4, and 5, 3 is best left to real hardware. For most linices, the drivers are the same, right out of the kernel, plain vanilla and written to the _standards_ defined by the hardware manufacturers. More than one hardware manufacturer meets those standards with a combination of corner-curring dodges on the hareware and their own third-party drivers (for windows) to make up for the deficiencies of the hardware. Naturally they work only with windows because no one who is economizing will see any cost-effectiveness in writing for a system that has only 5% market share on desktops,(and the folks who use servers for real business buy something else anyway). One even offers a detection service direct to windows users to pre-warn you when your drive is about to fail. You can search under Data Lifeguard to find it, but it works only with Windows. We have a similar feature by activating the SMART technology on your drives, but just local to your computer. Now, insofar as ATA/xx is concerned, sometimes the highest possible xx is not a good idea. Before 8.2, I will issue another versiuon of drakopt to run the tests to find the best speed for your drives. There are many cases where a higher speed _reduces_ performance because the noise causes more repeat requests, and there are many situations where ATA/66 actually outperforms ATA/100 on an individual machine, and some cases where ATA/33 outperforms ATA/66 (most severe I saw was a WD200AB on a MaxData computer set up by RH to run ATA/66 which provided 1.86Mb/s. At ATA/33 with optimizing settings determined by DrakOpt, it was getting 9.62 Mb/s.) Remember that higher speeds mean smaller signals in terms of total charge, and the energy in these signals are now small compared with a secondary cosmic ray. Please, I have answered this question enough. Next time someone else answer with a link to the archives pointing to this or any of the other articles. Civileme 2) RAID 0 If I have 6 discs and the controller has only 2 channels. How to make connection ? 1 master and 2 slaves for each channel ? Or need a controller with at least 3 channels 3) RAID 1 a) Question same as RAID 0, about discs connection : in order to achieve two concurrent separate reads per mirrored pair or two duplicate writes per mirrored pair ? b) What does it mean One Write or two Reads possible per mirrored pair 4) RAID 3 to my understanding : being very high read and write data transfer rate a) Controller design is fairly complex : is it awailable on market ? Not ordered made component ? b)
Fw: [newbie] Internet Connection and NIC's
PLS check /proc/pci - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Connection and NIC's Quite likely to be an Interrupt conflict. Try seeing if you can force it in the BIOS or maybe the modem has jumpers to select IRQ. derek On Tuesday 25 December 2001 21:38, you wrote: Ok. I am up and running on the internet under my linux machine. A friend gave me an internal hardware modem and i can now dial up and surf. But i wasnt until i removed the nic in my machine. It kept wanting to port out thought the nic to get to the internet. i would like to reinstall it and start a home network but could not get around this problem. Can anyone tell me how i can configure it to support both connections? I'm running LM 8.1 Thanks, roy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com message.footer Description: Binary data Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Windows partition won't load anymore
On Wednesday 26 December 2001 13:34, you wrote: I *do* think a warning in the installer would be a good idea though! it's *in* the *documentation* that you must *read* Well, that can be endlessly discussed. There are two kinds of people: those who read the docs and those who don't. My experience tells me that the second group is way bigger than the first. If you are a car manufacturer, you can write in the docs that you should at least press the clutch or set the gear to neutral before starting the engine. But the best solution is to put a switch on the gearbox so that it is simply impossible to start the engine with a gear. So, you're right, people *should* read the docs, but as many don't, there *should* be a warning. Pascal Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re[2]: is an anti-virus mandatory ?
Hi Joe (???), Here's an article that's in response to those claims made by Anti-Virus companies. http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/anti-virus.html Keep reading and learning about linux and you'll start to understand why it is so much more secure than Winders. /curtis --**--**--** Current Linux kernel 2.4.13-12mdk uptime: 1 day 7 hours 49 minutes. On Tue, 2001-12-25 at 18:29, [ © ª N ª ® i º JØË ]¹ wrote: Robin, Mandrake-group: Thank you for your comments. I do not know much about linux. I am a fisheries biologist and have been stuck to msoft for years. I have several gigabytes of compressed articles, data analyses, mathematical simulations, references, etc. on MSoft file formats. Bad. I am trying to, gradually, migrate to linux (I choose Mandrake out of several distributions I tested). The virus issue is of great concern to me. Profesionally, *I am* those files (years of work). I have read some viruses could attack linux systems and more are expected to come. I do not know well the internals of linux but, can you be sure of ... say ... a macro virus (such as those which destroy the MSWord .doc format+contents) is impossible to make for a linux system running ... say ... StarOffice ? Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Ø©Eªnº - þªT®iª - NØsT®ª] Wednesday, December 26, 2001, 2:20:11 [Islas Canarias, GMT]. robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió [25/12/2001, 12:39]: r For a workstation you shouldn't need antivirus software - it's normally r only necessary for servers where people are uploading stuff like Word r documents (e.g. someone using MS Word on a virtual drive could in theory r infect their files on that drive). r A virus, in the strict sense of the word, can't do much, if anything, on r a Linux system. As someone (on this list?) pointed out, to infect a r linux box with a classic e-mail ploy, you'd have to do something like this: r Dear user, r Please copy the attached file foo to your home directory, or better r still, if you have root priveleges, somewhere like /usr/bin. Then type r chmod a+x foo. Hit return, type ./foo and hit return again. r There are a few worms that can get into a Linux system, but again you r should only be worried if you're running a server - for normal r workstation purposes, it's enough to set security on Mandrake to medium. r Robin r [ © ª N ª ® i º JØË ]¹ wrote: Mandrake-group: I wonder whether · an antivirus is mandatory for Mandrake and, if positive, · which one is recommended. Is there any good open source antivirus (for workstations) ? Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Ø©Eªnº - þªT®iª - NØsT®ª] Tuesday, December 25, 2001, 0:02:34 [Islas Canarias, GMT]. --**--**--** Current Linux kernel 2.4.13-12mdk uptime: 1 day 7 hours 49 minutes. end of file Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com end of file Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
