Re: [newbie-it] sendmail envelope_from

2003-07-21 Thread Giuseppe Ferruzzi
* Arwan - ha scritto:
 
 Famme vede'... in .muttrc non c'e'. In /etc/mutt/Muttrc c'e' questo.
 
 # set envelope_from=no
 
 con tanto di commento davanti.

Allora coincide, se in .muttrc non c'è e non è settato di default
in /etc/Muttrc, pure da me è così, strano invece che Syd lo ha
invece settato con yes che in questo modo a me mutt non mi connette.

  Poi usi con sendmail submit.cf o sendmail.cf ?
 
 ... ho fatto provve con entrambi, ma alla fine non
 ricordo cosa ho scelto... Dove posso controllare per darti l'informazione?

Qui ti sei risposta da sola come fare nella fine della tua mail ;)

  Inoltre mi dici al prompt dei comandi che localhost hai ?
  dovresti avere come penso 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  è così ?
 
 Penso di si', ... tieni conto che sia io che syd abbiamo il
 localhost modificato per quanto riguarda il solo utilizzo di mutt. Il
 mio e' VecchioStregone.it, quello di syd, se non retto, vladimir o
 qualcosa di simile.

Si ho notato gli header riportati in questa mia risposta e confermo il tuo
localhost.

  Infine dato che usi la versione 1.4i di Mutt hai notato quando posponi e poi 
  richiami con m il messaggio posposto se perdi la riga relativa all'header 
  X-Mailer nel messaggio così richiamato ?
 
 No, non ho visto... aspe' che controllo con questa mail.
 Ah, dimenticavo. Ho brutalmente eliminato la riga con X mailer... non
 so se si veda poi qualcosa, usando il comendo h. Ho controllato ed
 effettivamente le mie mail non hanno X mailre, bensi' una riga con
 mail agent.
 
  Io ho questo difetto, lo avevo 
  risolto con versioni di sviluppo di mutt ma purtroppo quelle versioni non
  funzionano bene come la 1.4.1 che ho io, a parte il particolare suddetto.

Qui da me invece pure se utilizzo user agent avviene lo stesso, è un bug
confermatomi anche da Syd che installando la mia versione 
ha notato lo stesso difetto.

 Cmq se non erro la 1.4 ha dei bug di sicurezza, ma non so quali.

Io l'ho letto invece sul sito di redhat ma relativamente alla 1.4i la 1.4.1
che ho io è stata corretta in parte da una patch. Comunque non vedo l'ora che 
esca una nuova versione. 

  Concludo con quest'ultima domanda:
  In .muttrc come hai settato la riga relativa a sendmail ?
  Io ho questa:
  set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -oi -oem -f [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 set sendmail=/usr/bin/sendmail -Am -f [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  ti chiedo questo perchè tu a differenza di me e Syd hai un header
  in meno nelle mail che ricevo ...

 Non so se quel pizzico di
 diversita' causi questo, ne' so dirti quali siano le eventuali
 differenze tra le nostre impostazioni.
  
  Come vedi non è presente la versione di sendmail e il Submit questo mi fa 
  pensare che forse stai utilizzando sendmai.cf al posto di submit.cf oppure usi 
  una versione più vecchia della nostra, lo credo ma non ne sono sicuro, dovrai 
  confermarmelo tu.
 
 Non trovo l'opzione per verificare la versione corrente di sandmail

Se avevi rpm bastava rpm -q sendmail ;)

 in compenso ho scoperto che l'opzione -Am (ho verificato ora sul man) indica 
 l'utilizzo di sendmail.cf.

Questo era quello che mi interessava brava Arwan, ciò spiega la mancanza di un 
headers rispetto a me e Syd che usiamo invece submit.cf, allora tu dovresti 
avere un'ultima versione di sendmail. Se utilizzerai allora Submit.cf che è 
molto facile configurare te lo assicuro, dovrai togliere -Am da set sendmail in 
.muttrc ed automaticamente sendmail userà per default submit.cf e ti verrà 
aggiunto un headers in più con la specifica della versione di sendmail, 
quell'header che adesso a te manca ;)

  Grazie per la collaborazione Arwan. 
 
 Prego! Una volta tanto che posso ricambiare... 



Ciao, Giuseppe.

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R: [newbie-it] Alleggerire KDE

2003-07-21 Thread Enrico Piccinini
Ciao,
sulle 
 differenze tra le versioni home e professional di quella 
 schifezza di SO.
 
Sicuramente la differenza più grossa è che con il XPHome non hai il
supporto per agganciare un PC ad un dominio = anche la gestione di
alcuni servizi di rete ti viene a mancare. Tutto questo te lo ritrovi
invece sotto XP Pro.

Enrico




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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di 
 Alessandro Piaser
 Inviato: venerdì 18 luglio 2003 0.10
 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Oggetto: Re: [newbie-it] Alleggerire KDE
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Enrico Piccinini
 
 Ciao,
 
  che xp hai? home o professional? xkè se vuoi fare un 
 paragone, fallo 
  col professional (è quello meno lontano da un sistema decente).
 
 Il confronto l'ho fatto con XP Professional.
 
 Ache se è un po' OT qualcuno mi darebbe maggiori lumi sulle 
 differenze tra le versioni home e professional di quella 
 schifezza di SO. Qualcsa di tecnico, ma non troppo. Grazie
 
 Bye
 
 Alessandro
 
 
 
 
 




[newbie-it] Togliere servizi inutili (2a parte)

2003-07-21 Thread kua79
Come mi avevate suggerito sono andato nella cartella /etc/rc.d/rc5.d ed
ho killato i servizi che non mi servono, del tipo...
S97rhnsd
S90canna
S26apmd
...
Però all'avvio mi esce ancora questo mess di caricamento
 Inizializzazione della tastiera USB[OK]
 Inizializzazione del mouse USB [OK]
Ma io non ho ne tastiera ne mouse USB !!!
Dove posso andare a toglierli?
Grazie ciao Davide



[newbie-it] Audio

2003-07-21 Thread Eraser Head
Ciao a tutti!

Volevo farvi una domanda: non esiste un modo per far eseguire al caro 
linux più suoni contemporaneamente?
Ad esempio, non è possibile ascoltare degli mp3 e intanto sentire anche 
gli oh-oh di licq? Senza che si blocchino a vicenda, e senza che quando 
finisce il primo mp3 mi arrivano gli oh-oh tutti insieme e 
l'esecuzione degli mp3 si fermi?

Se con winzozz questo è possibile, deve pur essere possibile anche con 
linux, no?

Grazie a tutti!

   Chiara


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If you ask me, well I think not,
unless we watch these bigots rot.

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Re: [newbie-it] sendmail envelope_from

2003-07-21 Thread Arwan -
Deve aver avuto molto sonno, perche' il lunedì 21 luglio 2003, alle 10:18, Giuseppe 
Ferruzzi ha scritto:

   Poi usi con sendmail submit.cf o sendmail.cf ?
  
  ... ho fatto provve con entrambi, ma alla fine non
  ricordo cosa ho scelto... Dove posso controllare per darti l'informazione?
 
 Qui ti sei risposta da sola come fare nella fine della tua mail ;)


Infatti :-) Ma ero di fretta e non sono tornata indietro a
correggere.

 Si ho notato gli header riportati in questa mia risposta e confermo il tuo
 localhost.

E funzia anche l'individuazione delle mail in risposta ale mie con i
colori... ;-)
Troppo bello.

  Non trovo l'opzione per verificare la versione corrente di sandmail
 
 Se avevi rpm bastava rpm -q sendmail ;)


ehm... come piu' di qualcuno qui sono slackizzata. Inutile che dica
chi e' il colpevole!
(btw se guardi tra gli headers c'e' scritto)
 
 Questo era quello che mi interessava brava Arwan, ciò spiega la mancanza di un 
 headers rispetto a me e Syd che usiamo invece submit.cf, allora tu dovresti 
 avere un'ultima versione di sendmail. 

Assai probabile, da quanto ricordo.

Alla prossima,

Arwan
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 So many different suns
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Re: [newbie-it]mutt a colori [era: sendmail envelope_from]

2003-07-21 Thread Giuseppe Ferruzzi
* Arwan - ha scritto:
 
 E funzia anche l'individuazione delle mail in risposta ale mie con i
 colori... ;-)
 Troppo bello.

Qui intendi che individui, fra migliaia di messaggi, a colori i messaggi 
nell'indice relativi alle sole risposte a te indirizzate ? Se è così è 
interessante.
Ultimamente sono un po' svogliato  ;)  quale comando hai inserito in 
.muttrc per ottenere questo effetto ? A proposito tu li vedi a colori
gli smileys ?
Un'altra cosa ancora, sono alla ricerca della espressione in .muttrc che 
permette di cambiare ad una risposta l'oggetto alla mail, ma allo stessso 
tempo il vecchio oggetto non viene cancellato come sembra ma viene inserito 
in automatico di seguito al nuovo con la scritta era: il vecchio messaggio. 
Hai trovato niente in merito ? So che è un comando reply_regexp modificato 
da quello attuale che utilizziamo.

Ciao, Giuseppe.

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Re: [newbie-it] ifup e ifdown solo da root?

2003-07-21 Thread Antonello






Salve amici non vi ho dimenticato... parto per una piccola vacanza in bungalow...
Ci risentiamo per darvi mie notizie fra circa sei giorni...
Ok?
Un saluto. Antonello.

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Subject: Re: [newbie-it] ifup e ifdown solo da root?
Prova a fare questa verifica, vai su...Impostazioni di sistema -- Rete (Se non sei Root ti chiederà la Pass)Scusa ma non trovo il percorso che dici. "Impostazioni di sistema"sarebbe Centro di controllo mandrake"?Ho cercato sui centri di controllo di kde e gnome (che non conoscomolto bene) ma non trovo nulla che mi permetta le operazioni che dici.biss [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Penso che Davide abbia azzeccato il problema, ovviamente lui usa come me RH e non Mdk, comunque se sei un po avvezzo alla riga di comando potrai evitare di perderti tra le finestre del tuo wm, devi solo modificare  il file di configurazione ifcfg-ppp0 che in RH si trova in  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.  In questa directory apri ifcfg-ppp0 con un editor come pico con i diritti di  root: # pico ifcfg.ppp0 modifica o aggiungi la seguente riga USERCTL=yes Ripristina gli eventuali diritti dei file se li hai cambiati con quelli di  default perchè non hai bisogno di essere root per avviare ifup e ifdown almeno non con RH (considera che gli script ifup e ifdown in RH sono presenti  in etc/sysconfig/netwrk-scripts come link simbolico a /sbin/ifup e /sbin/ifdown con diritti 755 ossia possono essere solo letti ed eseguiti se non si è root ma questo basta per connettere e disconnettere se non si è root mentre per ifcfg-ppp0 i diritti sono 644 ossia il dispositivo ppp0 è reso disponibile a tutti gli user del tuo sistema locale). Una volta che il tutto funziona puoi evitare di specificare la relativa path se  la aggiungi in .bash-profile. Allora è sufficiente scrivere da shell solo  ifup ppp0 o ifdown ppp0 per connettere e disconnettere il tuo ISP.  Potrai semplificare ancora creandoti inoltre due alias a questi comandi da  inserire all'inizio in .bashrc. Quindi per connettere da shell pigiando solo il tasto  $ u invio  dovrai aggiungere in .bashrc la seguente riga: alias u="ifup ppp0"  mentre per disconnettere:  $ d invio  dovrai aggiungere: alias d="ifdown ppp0"  Ciao, Giuseppe. Azz! Compl.. Giuseppe! Sempre Superdisponibile come al solito! :)Come puoi vedere ti ha spegato tutto per filo e per segno cmq io tirispondo alla domanda che mi hai fatto "su in alto"...Scusa ma non trovo il percorso che dici. "Impostazioni di sistema"sarebbe Centro di controllo mandrake"?No, Impostazioni di sistema non è nel centro di controllo, ma nel menùdella barra in basso a sinistra. Tanto per intenderci quel menù che inWindozz è chiamato "Avvio" o "Start".Il menù principale o come lo vuoi chiamare... Dentro lì cerca la voce"Rete" che dovrebbe essere sotto "Impostazioni di Sistema".Poi mi spiace ma di preciso non so dirti... non ho sottomano unaMadrakke per provare.Oppure la soluzione di Giuseppe è valida ed intuitiva! Basta editare/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0 e settare USERCTL=yes !!L'unico problema è che non so confermati se il percorso sia corretto...Ora RH e Mdk non sono più così simili come una volta.Fammi sapere!!Sciau by Davide. 







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Re: [newbie-it] Togliere servizi inutili (2a parte)

2003-07-21 Thread Giuseppe Ferruzzi
* kua79 ha scritto:
 Come mi avevate suggerito sono andato nella cartella /etc/rc.d/rc5.d ed
 ho killato i servizi che non mi servono, del tipo...
 S97rhnsd
 S90canna
 S26apmd
 ...
 Però all'avvio mi esce ancora questo mess di caricamento
  Inizializzazione della tastiera USB [OK]
  Inizializzazione del mouse USB  [OK]
 Ma io non ho ne tastiera ne mouse USB !!!
 Dove posso andare a toglierli?
 Grazie ciao Davide

Nella directory /etc/rc.d/rc5.d ci puoi arrivare graficamente con questo 
comando che ti da lo stesso elenco servizi che puoi disattivare e a fianco
trovi anche una breve descrizione a cosa servono:
# redhat-config-services
ma da qui non potrai togliere ugualmente quello che chiedi. Le indicazioni
della tastiera e del mouse che trovi inizializzate al boot sono ininfluenti 
fanno parte della configurazione standard USB/ PS2 di RH. Personalmente non 
disturba, di certo è che questo fatto non appesantisce il tuo sistema. 
Inoltre non mi sembra un'ottima idea aver tolto il demone rhnsd che serve a 
fare il check di eventuali aggiornamenti resi disponibili sul server RHN con 
l'applet sulla barra che ti allerta.
Se comunque pensi che questo demone possa creare problemi puoi 
ucciderlo con il seguente comando da root utilizzando 'su -' :
# service rhnsd stop
e verificare ...
invece per riavviare 
# service rhnsd start
con questo sistema puoi uccidere molti altri demoni se pensi che ti diano 
fastidio ;) Ovviamente quando riaccenderai il computer questi servizi ti si
riattiveranno. 


Ciao, Giuseppe.

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[newbie] xfce4-rc2 rpms that Todd wrote.

2003-07-21 Thread Brooks3J
Ok, Joe, if you're still up, I need your help.  I downloaded the rpm packages for 
xfce4-rc2 that Todd was kind enough to create and I have them all in a file called 
xfce4-rc2 as per Todd's directions.  The question is:  what do I do now?  Is there a 
way to install all of the packages with one command?  Or do I have to install them one 
at a time?

Thanks

Jack




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Re: [newbie] xfce4-rc2 rpms that Todd wrote.

2003-07-21 Thread Eric Huff
If you add the dir they are in to your rpm sources (this can be done in
mcc if need be) you can install them all at once.

mcc (at cli) then software -- software sources -- add -- borwse
(don't worry about hdlist).  Then install by repository or something
like that.

For the last round, there were 4 that had to be installed in order, so
don't forget to do those first (if that's still a rule.)

eric

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 02:21:28 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, Joe, if you're still up, I need your help.  I downloaded the rpm
 packages for xfce4-rc2 that Todd was kind enough to create and I have
 them all in a file called xfce4-rc2 as per Todd's directions.  The
 question is:  what do I do now?  Is there a way to install all of the
 packages with one command?  Or do I have to install them one at a
 time?
 
 Thanks
 
 Jack

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Re: [newbie] xfce4-rc2 rpms that Todd wrote.

2003-07-21 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 16:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, Joe, if you're still up, I need your help.  I downloaded the rpm packages for 
 xfce4-rc2 that Todd was kind enough to create and I have them all in a file called 
 xfce4-rc2 as per Todd's directions.  The question is:  what do I do now?  Is there a 
 way to install all of the packages with one command?  Or do I have to install them 
 one at a time?
 
 Thanks
 
 Jack

You COULD open a terminal in that directory and type:

rpm -ivh --force --nodeps *.rpm

...but I'd advise doing it by the listed sequence on his website.

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[newbie] gnupg

2003-07-21 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
Hi

Does anybody on here know how to set the default key server in gnupg and
how to then set the key server option to auto-key-retrieve.

If you could talk me through it assuming no prior knowledge other than that
I know how to use vi!

John

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Re: [newbie] xfce4-rc2 rpms that Todd wrote.

2003-07-21 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 02:21:28 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 Ok, Joe, if you're still up, I need your help.  I downloaded the rpm
 packages for xfce4-rc2 that Todd was kind enough to create and I have
 them all in a file called xfce4-rc2 as per Todd's directions.  The
 question is:  what do I do now?  Is there a way to install all of the
 packages with one command?  Or do I have to install them one at a
 time?

in that directory, urpmi *.rpm
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Re: [newbie] mozilla toolbar and KDE / gnome font size problems

2003-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 20 Jul 2003 11:07 pm, JoeHill wrote:
LO On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 22:53:30 +0100

 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  Actually, we did solve that one.  I sent the person a section
  from my moz bookmark file, and he edited it and put it into his
  own.  I'm pleased to say it worked fine.

 Anne is our resident Mozilla *expert*, she'll have Mozilla makin ya
 coffee before ya know it!

 But I told her about the about:config trick, so she owes me... a
 smooch?

LOL - no expert, but I like Moz as a browser.  I like the left-hand 
panel for search and bookmarks, I like the F9 to switch it in and 
out, and I like its configurability.

Joe, remind me about that one.  This is probably something that you 
and I should put together for the TWiki pages, since it is so useful.

Anne

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Re: [newbie] OT - Spyware

2003-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 21 Jul 2003 1:41 am, Chris wrote:
 On Sunday 20 July 2003 07:30 pm, JoeHill wrote:

 Thanks Joe, I just fwd this to the other list.  Seems every time I
 post to this list I get queries about setting up Linux and getting
 rid of Windows. Whats a really good site or two to send them to
 that will answer some of there questions and fears about setting up
 a Linux system.  And thanks for the hint on chkrootkit, just
 installed and ran it, found nothing.

And while you're at it, why not tell them about our TWiki site, 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome, and in particular 
the NewbieFriendly page 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NewbieFriendly

Anne

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Re: [newbie] Adobe Acrobat on Linux?

2003-07-21 Thread QingHua Wang
You can go to the website of Acrobat and find there a version for Unix(Linux).
This version works well. Sometime some special symbols can not be displayed 
correctly with xpdf, but they have no problems with Acrobat reader. HTH.

Qinghua



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RE: [newbie] Gnome vs. KDE

2003-07-21 Thread Frankie
Yeah, I will go along with Stephens critique.. :-)

However I see photos of a boat on your page, so you must
have something
going for you... I am a boat nut and spend many hours a
month reading
the iboats.com forum posts.

Anyone that likes boats and fishing can't be all bad.  :-)

I only own one photo of myself, and if you want to (can't
imagine why)
you can see it at the below site under about us.

rgds

Franki
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On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 08:39, JoeHill wrote:

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RE: [newbie] MS is at it again...

2003-07-21 Thread Frankie
This is why you are nearly always better off buying clone
PC's for
desktops.. all the clones my wholesalers supply OEM CD's...

As for laptops, a much harder concern.. I can however order
laptops
from several places with No OS at all, and then order a copy
of XP
or 2000 OEM to go with it... which solves the problem.
(not the problem that the end user wants windows, but the
problem of
getting them what they paid for.)


regards

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Subject: Re: [newbie] MS is at it again...


On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:40:56 -0700
Erylon Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 I hate MS as much as the next guy (I don't run it at all
at home,
 although it is available via dual boot), but this is
really the fault
 of the pc maker/distributors.  I haven't seen a single pc
in the past
 couple of years that actually came with a real install
disk.

I thoght of that as soon as I posted it! Good point!

Buut, PC distributors should be selling computers with
install
disks, and who will make them do that?

Darn personal responsibility! I guess it's me...

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Re: [newbie] OT - Spyware

2003-07-21 Thread Inhabitant of Zion
 
   8:29pm  up 29 days,  2:45,  6 users,  load average: 0.43, 0.20, 0.12
 

Personally I think that is really cool. I guess it must be some sort of
cron job? Skimming off some of the O/P from uptime?

Wish I knew how to do that!

John

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Re: [newbie] test

2003-07-21 Thread Damian Gatabria
El lun, 21-07-2003 a las 02:38, JoeHill escribió:
 On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 01:06:11 -0400
 Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Rolling on the floor laughing my mail server off.


 LOL
 
 that happened to me the other night. see thread Postfix and POP3.
 
 hey, would it be possible to link to a post? nh...

..i missed that thread! i gotta go check the archives! :oP



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Re: [newbie] my site(self advt)

2003-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 21 Jul 2003 1:51 am, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
 I have uploaded on 19th Jul 2003, with some more useful info for
 linux newbies. have a look at http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/. any
 comments welcome.

Hi, LV.  There's a lot of good stuff there.  I'll put a link onto the 
TWiki pages.  The link to Hints seems to be broken, though?

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Re: [newbie] VI vs. Emacs (was Gnome vs. KDE)

2003-07-21 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 20 July 2003 02:05 pm, Brooks Family wrote:
 Hi all.  I've got Mandrake 9.1 and I'm currently using Gnome2.2 for my
 desktop.  However, I've noticed that there are a lot more things that
 seem to be written for KDE (themes, applications, etc.). What makes KDE
 so much more popular than Gnome?

Well now you've gone and done it.  You might as well have asked Which is 
better: VI or Emacs?
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Re: [newbie] OT - Spyware

2003-07-21 Thread Chris
On Monday 21 July 2003 04:12 am, Anne Wilson wrote:

Will do Anne, and thanks


 And while you're at it, why not tell them about our TWiki site,
 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome, and in particular
 the NewbieFriendly page
 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NewbieFriendly

 Anne

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Re: [newbie] VI vs. Emacs (was Gnome vs. KDE)

2003-07-21 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 07:35:12 -0400
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 You might as well have asked Which is 
 better: VI or Emacs?

ok, i want you to go home, forget you ever said that, and pray for your
immortal soul. you have uttered the question that must not be uttered.

may god have mercy on you and protect you.

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Re: [newbie] xfce4-rc2 rpms that Todd wrote.

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 02:21:28AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, Joe, if you're still up, I need your help.  I downloaded the rpm packages for 
 xfce4-rc2 that Todd was kind enough to create and I have them all in a file called 
 xfce4-rc2 as per Todd's directions.  The question is:  what do I do now?  Is there a 
 way to install all of the packages with one command?  Or do I have to install them 
 one at a time?

I would just install the first four that require a certain sequence
manually with:

rpm -ivh libxxx.rpm

Then I'd move those 4 to a subdirectory and then do:

rpm -ivh *.rpm

to install the rest. Unless, of course, you don't want to install all
the packages. For example, I no longer use the iconbox or file mangler
and I think a lot of people probably don't, too.

Or, add them as a urpmi source like Eric or Joe suggested.

HTH,
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Re: [newbie] Process that just *will not die*!

2003-07-21 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 20:45, JoeHill wrote:
 Ok, gmplayer is running in the background.
 
 I have tried to kill it with signal 9 as root, I don't know what else to
 do except reboot. 
 
 Help me Obi Wan! (or Stephen...)

(If it's running and you didn't run it, do all of this from the term)

killall -KILL gmplayer
killall -KILL gconfd-2
oaf-slay
bonobo-slay

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Re: [newbie] kword crash help sought

2003-07-21 Thread Andrei Raevsky
Hi,

I could start konqueror without any problems.  Then I tried kword and
exactly the same thing happened.

I then tried something else.  Clicking on a *.kwd file from konqueror.  No
associated application was found and I was given the dialog box to choose
application to open the file with.

Does that make any sense?!

thanks!

 On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 10:58, Andrei Raevsky wrote:
 Hi,

 When I try to load kword from the command line I get this:

 QUOTE
 $ kword
 Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2
 koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in
 kword's desktop file. Check your installation !
 Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy
 UNQUOTE

 I usually use Windowmaker, but I noticed that KDE seemed to have lost
 some of the links from the bottom task and is generally messed up.
 This is true for *all* users.

 Kmail and kppp work just fine (thanks God!).

 This might have been caused by a recent data loss on my ext3
 filesystem suring shutdown.

 What should I do?  Reinstall all of KDE?  Make a complete upgrade from
 Mdk9 to Mdk9.1?  I do not really need Kword (I use OpenOffice which
 works fine) but I do use plenty of KDE apps and the kmail/kppp pair is
 vital for me.

 And what's a MimeType on kword's dektop file anyway?

 Thanks!

 Andrei

 Andrei;
 I just caught this post in the other group, but will give a go at it
 here: What about trying this - fire up Konqueror before any other KDE
 applications - THEN after Konq is started, try to fire up KWord...

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RE: [newbie] Process that just *will not die*!

2003-07-21 Thread Frankie
killall -9 gmplayer


regards

Franki
http://htmlfixit.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles
A Edwards
Sent: Monday, 21 July 2003 8:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Process that just *will not die*!


On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 06:45:55 -0400
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have tried to kill it with signal 9 as root, I don't
know what else
 to do except reboot.


Have you tried with
killall gmplayer


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[newbie] Playing/Running content from Mozilla

2003-07-21 Thread Tango Echo
Hi all,

I recently discovered how to install a few extra
plugins for Mozilla including Real Player and Java. 
This is great - still trying to make the full move
from Windows. I also have discovered MPlayer (in place
of Ogle...).  My question is: How can one play WMV
files and other content right from Mozilla?  I
installed mplayerplug but that didnt' seem to work. 
Since Mozplugger appears more powerful (you can link
office files, etc) I figured I'd try that... Office
files such as .doc open fine.  But still cannot
automatically open wmv.

If I download the wmv files and open them in MPlayer,
they play fine.  The problem appears to be in the
linking of mozilla and mplayer?  Any tips or advice
you guys can offer will be greatly appeciated.  Thanks!

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Re: [newbie] Recommended A4 Scanners for MDK91? - Decision Made!!

2003-07-21 Thread Peter Stokes
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:58, Peter Stokes wrote:
 Hi
 
 My old parallel port scanner is a no no with MDK according to all the
 docs I have read and I did try it without success. So on to buying a new
 one.
 
 I have USB 2 interface and have heard that USB scanners work well with
 xsane etc, but which one to buy?
 
 Some recommendations would be welcomed as most/all of the scanners do
 not have linux compatible notices on the box (some day this may happen).
 
 Thanks
 
 Peter
 
 
 

First, thanks to all of the respondants, and yes I will put this on the
twiki if it is not already there.

I looked at the ones suggested and then at a few of the USB sites. The
end result was to go with an Epson 1260. This arrived new and shiny and
worked right out of the box as expected from previous mails.

The main reason for going for this one was

1) It was available new in the UK for approx £75 delivered by dabs.com
(no personal interest, but have good experience with them)

2) It was recommended (as was the 1250) on the list

3) Epson have actually got their finger out to support under Linux and
deserve the credit/benefit.

There we go, a happy Linux user complete with scanner.

All the best

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Re: [newbie] kword crash help sought

2003-07-21 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 23:16, Andrei Raevsky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I could start konqueror without any problems.  Then I tried kword and
 exactly the same thing happened.
 
 I then tried something else.  Clicking on a *.kwd file from konqueror.  No
 associated application was found and I was given the dialog box to choose
 application to open the file with.
 
 Does that make any sense?!
 
 thanks!

Something's fishy.
What about blowing out the prefs file for KWord and trying again?
~/home/yournamehere/.kde/share/apps/koshell/globalconfig

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[newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
Will post on the amavis list if my subscription request ever gets
approved.

I get an unknown result when using trophie with amavisd-new:

Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]: (03623-01) Using
Trophie: (built-in interface)
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]: (03623-01) Trophie:
Connecting to socket  /var/run/trophie
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]: (03623-01) Trophie:
Sending /var/amavis/amavis-20030721T084656-03623/parts/\n to UNIX socket
/var/run/trophie
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]: (03623-01) Trophie
result: -4
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]: (03623-01) Trophie
FAILED - unknown status: -4

Using:

Trophie 1.12
VSAPI version 6.510-1002
Pattern Version 589

Amavisd-new-20030616

Postfix 2.0.6 (mdk 9.1)

Amavisd running as user vscan group amavis, as is trophie.

I have clamav working ok with this.

I did hit the amavis archives and found reference to this problem on a
red hat install.

Any ideas?

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Re: [newbie] Recommended A4 Scanners for MDK91? - Decision Made!!

2003-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 21 Jul 2003 2:07 pm, Peter Stokes wrote:
 First, thanks to all of the respondants, and yes I will put this on
 the twiki if it is not already there.

 I looked at the ones suggested and then at a few of the USB sites.
 The end result was to go with an Epson 1260. This arrived new and
 shiny and worked right out of the box as expected from previous
 mails.

 The main reason for going for this one was

 1) It was available new in the UK for approx £75 delivered by
 dabs.com (no personal interest, but have good experience with them)

 2) It was recommended (as was the 1250) on the list

 3) Epson have actually got their finger out to support under Linux
 and deserve the credit/benefit.

 There we go, a happy Linux user complete with scanner.

 All the best

 Peter

One happy user.  Glad we could help

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Re: [newbie] VI vs. Emacs (was Gnome vs. KDE)

2003-07-21 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 21:35, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Sunday 20 July 2003 02:05 pm, Brooks Family wrote:
  Hi all.  I've got Mandrake 9.1 and I'm currently using Gnome2.2 for my
  desktop.  However, I've noticed that there are a lot more things that
  seem to be written for KDE (themes, applications, etc.). What makes KDE
  so much more popular than Gnome?
 
 Well now you've gone and done it.  You might as well have asked Which is 
 better: VI or Emacs?

...or pico

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[newbie] ip tables and ip masq

2003-07-21 Thread L.V.Gandhi
In a PC with modem, which is to act as masq server, I have already installed 
iptables. However starting its daemon during startup was disabled by me. Now 
I have followed IP-masquerade howto. I made rc.firewall-2.4 , put it in 
/etc/rc.d and firewall-2.4 in /etc/rc.d/init.d/. Now when I ran 
rc.firewall-2.4 in command line, I get errors many modules are already 
running. Further gateway ip address of eth0, I can ping. When masq server is 
connected to internet, I can ping its dynamically allocated ip address. But I 
can't ping its dns server by its number also. Why. How to make masq work.
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Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up

2003-07-21 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday July 20 2003 01:23 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
 Agreed that will  set Bill's default route to the dialup
 connection, but I know it is possible to have the default route
 configured for the DSL and to have it switch automatically when
 he uses dial up.

 I just wish I can remember how I did it :-(

 derek

  For the short time I had both DSL and Dialup, IIRC, I had to 
completely disconnect DSL. Unplug the cable from the internal NIC, 
unplug the digital line from the DSL 'modem'. Then use an analog 
phone filter to hook the digital phone line to the dialup modem (an 
external serial 56K). IOW, neither dialup or DSL would work if the 
other was left hooked up at all.
-- 
Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas

 On Sunday 20 Jul 2003 6:16 pm, Frankie wrote:
  Try this
 
  in /etc/sysconfig/network
 
  Add this line:
 
  GATEWAYDEV=ppp0
 
  if there is an entry for GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
 
  remove it.
 
 
  Then type:
 
  service network restart
 
  then try kppp again.
 
 
  regards
 
  Franki
  http://htmlfixit.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill
  Winegarden
  Sent: Monday, 21 July 2003 12:40 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up
 
 
  Hi Derek,
  Thanks for the info, however that option is already in
  there. Here are
  the entries in /etc/ppp/options:
 
  lock
  noauth
  noipdefault
  usepeerdns
 
  Maybe they will jog your memory. Perhaps you could check
  yours and see if
  there is a difference.
 
  tia,
  Bill W.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] broadband screws up dial up
 
   On Sunday 20 Jul 2003 3:46 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote:
Hi,
New problem to consider. Mandrake 9.1. Default
 
  installation. I
 
originally set up my dial up connection (on a supported
 
  winmodem) and I
  was
 
able to retrieve email and surf, no problem. Then my son
 
  set up a
  broadband
 
connection to his DSL line. Wow, what a difference!
This morning I awoke and his DSL connection has
 
  changed somehow so I
 
just disconnected the cable and used KPPP for my dialup.
The application will dial up my provider and connect
 
  but email and
  web
 
browsers won't connect to this connection now. What do I
 
  have to do to
  get
 
my dial up connectivity back?
   
tia,
Bill W.
  
   I know I have been through this one because my laptop
 
  happily switches the
 
   default route between dialup and cable, but I cannot quite
 
  remember what I
 
   did.
  
   Try putting the option
   noipdefault
   in /etc/ppp/options
  
  
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RE: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question

2003-07-21 Thread Frankie
well lets start at the beginning..

Does trend filescan work by itself? (meaning without
trophie).
In amavis.conf you can set the scanner used as primary and
again as secondary..

If you comment out all others accept Trend for primary.. if
you use
filescan as primary scanner, does it work as expected??

If memory serves.. this:

 ### http://www.trendmicro.com/
  ['Trend Micro FileScanner', ['/etc/iscan/vscan','vscan'],
'-a {}', [0], qr/Found virus/, qr/Found virus (.+)
in/ ],

Should be the only uncommented entry in @av_scanners
for this test.

Also turn up the log level in amavis.conf
$log_level = 5;

That will give you as much detail as possible..



regards

Franki




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Todd Slater
Sent: Monday, 21 July 2003 9:27 PM
To: Mandrake Newbie
Subject: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question


Will post on the amavis list if my subscription request ever
gets
approved.

I get an unknown result when using trophie with amavisd-new:

Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]:
(03623-01) Using
Trophie: (built-in interface)
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]:
(03623-01) Trophie:
Connecting to socket  /var/run/trophie
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]:
(03623-01) Trophie:
Sending /var/amavis/amavis-20030721T084656-03623/parts/\n to
UNIX socket
/var/run/trophie
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]:
(03623-01) Trophie
result: -4
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]:
(03623-01) Trophie
FAILED - unknown status: -4

Using:

Trophie 1.12
VSAPI version 6.510-1002
Pattern Version 589

Amavisd-new-20030616

Postfix 2.0.6 (mdk 9.1)

Amavisd running as user vscan group amavis, as is trophie.

I have clamav working ok with this.

I did hit the amavis archives and found reference to this
problem on a
red hat install.

Any ideas?

Todd


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RE: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question

2003-07-21 Thread Frankie
Incidently, I am running mandrake 9.0 on my mail server and
had no problem
getting trophie to compile on it..
I have not updated my engine yet.. but I doubt that will
make any diff..
maybe I will try it tomorrow and see if it works.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# trophie -v
Initializing: VSAPI version 6.150-1001
Initializing: Pattern version 589 (pattern number 48987)
Socket path : /var/run/trophie
Timeout : 300 seconds
Running as user : amavis
Socket group: amavis
Max processes   : 20
PID file: /var/run/trophie.pid
Trophie version : 1.12
Cleanup : VSAPI cleaned up and terminated
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]#


regards

Franki

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Sent: Monday, 21 July 2003 9:27 PM
To: Mandrake Newbie
Subject: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question


Will post on the amavis list if my subscription request ever
gets
approved.

I get an unknown result when using trophie with amavisd-new:

Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]:
(03623-01) Using
Trophie: (built-in interface)
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]:
(03623-01) Trophie:
Connecting to socket  /var/run/trophie
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]:
(03623-01) Trophie:
Sending /var/amavis/amavis-20030721T084656-03623/parts/\n to
UNIX socket
/var/run/trophie
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]:
(03623-01) Trophie
result: -4
Jul 21 08:46:56 idea.matc.tec.oh.us amavisd[3623]:
(03623-01) Trophie
FAILED - unknown status: -4

Using:

Trophie 1.12
VSAPI version 6.510-1002
Pattern Version 589

Amavisd-new-20030616

Postfix 2.0.6 (mdk 9.1)

Amavisd running as user vscan group amavis, as is trophie.

I have clamav working ok with this.

I did hit the amavis archives and found reference to this
problem on a
red hat install.

Any ideas?

Todd


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[newbie] Screen saver disappears

2003-07-21 Thread Burrows, Scott
Hi all,

Running MDK 9.1 and KDE here.

I downloaded a screen saver (The Matrix - very nice), the instructions said
to copy the file KMatrix.desktop to
/usr/share/applnk-mdk/.hidden/ScreenSavers.  Also copy the file
kmatrix.kss to /usr/bin.

It all works fine.  When I look at the sceensavers available for using its
listed there as expected.

The problem is whenever I install software whether from doing an Update or
from downloading new stuff the KMatrix.desktop file dissappears and the
saver no longer shows up in the list.

I can solve this by recopying the file there again but why does it
disappear?

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Re: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
Looks like  we have about the same except for uid and gid.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tslater]# trophie -v
Initializing: VSAPI version 6.510-1002
Initializing: Pattern version 589 (pattern number 54450)
Socket path : /var/run/trophie
Timeout : 300 seconds
Running as user : vscan
Socket group: amavis
Max processes   : 20
PID file: /var/run/trophie.pid
Trophie version : 1.12
Cleanup : VSAPI cleaned up and terminated

[EMAIL PROTECTED] iscan]# ./vscan -v
Virus Scanner v3.1, VSAPI v6.510-1002
Trend Micro Inc. 1996,1997
Pattern version 589
Pattern number 54450
No scan target specified!! do nothing.

Todd

On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 10:49:36PM +0800, Frankie wrote:
 Incidently, I am running mandrake 9.0 on my mail server and
 had no problem
 getting trophie to compile on it..
 I have not updated my engine yet.. but I doubt that will
 make any diff..
 maybe I will try it tomorrow and see if it works.
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# trophie -v
 Initializing: VSAPI version 6.150-1001
 Initializing: Pattern version 589 (pattern number 48987)
 Socket path : /var/run/trophie
 Timeout : 300 seconds
 Running as user : amavis
 Socket group: amavis
 Max processes   : 20
 PID file: /var/run/trophie.pid
 Trophie version : 1.12
 Cleanup : VSAPI cleaned up and terminated
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]#

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Re: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
Hi Franki,

On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 10:45:02PM +0800, Frankie wrote:
 well lets start at the beginning..
 
 Does trend filescan work by itself? (meaning without
 trophie).

Yes.

 In amavis.conf you can set the scanner used as primary and
 again as secondary..
 
 If you comment out all others accept Trend for primary.. if
 you use
 filescan as primary scanner, does it work as expected??

Yes, Trend as the only primary works.

Using Trophie as the only primary with no backups returns the same error.

Using Trophie with trend as a backup catches the virus, but Trophie
still fails.

 If memory serves.. this:
 
  ### http://www.trendmicro.com/
   ['Trend Micro FileScanner', ['/etc/iscan/vscan','vscan'],
 '-a {}', [0], qr/Found virus/, qr/Found virus (.+)
 in/ ],
 
 Should be the only uncommented entry in @av_scanners
 for this test.
 
 Also turn up the log level in amavis.conf
 $log_level = 5;
 
 That will give you as much detail as possible..

After setting log_level to 5, I don't see anything new regarding
Trophie--it still says unknown code (-4).

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[newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Grant
I was following the Gnome vs. KDE thread and decided to try XFce4.  I've
downloaded and installed all the required rpm's in the correct order plus a
few others.  I also followed the instructions on the download page to add an
XFce4 entry to KDM, and I put the startup script outlined under My startup
script in my /usr/bin directory.  But when I select XFce4 from KDM I end up
in IceWM.  Does anyone have any advice for me?  Thanks!

- Grant


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[newbie] interesting facts about kernel2.6

2003-07-21 Thread Frankie
Hi guys,

I was just reading up on the 2.6 kernel at:

http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html

And one of the new changes is that in order to use cdrw's
you will no longer have to use scsi emulation..

IDE CD/RW drives can now be written to directly through the
real IDE disk driver, a much cleaner implementation than
before. (Previously, it was required to also use a special
SCSI-emulating driver which was confusing and often
difficult.)

That's gonna make newbie usage much simplier.

There is a ton of other cool changes too, you guys should
read up on this and see what is comming.


regards


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[newbie] sound server

2003-07-21 Thread Curt Tresenriter
A message keeps popping up telling me the sound server has been
suspended but I was still getting sounds.
Today:
 I get:
 Error while initializing sound driver.
device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory)
The sound server will continue using the null output device.

xmms won't recognize the URL I entered yesterday to stream a radio
station - hitting the play button opens the files list - I choose one
(MP3) hit ok, but it doesn't show in the xmms window and nothing will
play.

Realplayer says 'cannot open audio device another application may be
using it'
The first message has been occurring over the last few days - the rest
just this am after the power went down and the UPS didn't give me any
time to shut down.
Did the file system integrity check - everything started ok except
sound.

I'm lost. Where do I start??
Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-21 Thread Graham Watkins
ed tharp wrote:
lawyers and university professors and the NEA are not ruining the world,
corporate greed is a serious problem itself.


while Corporations are an entity they do not have feelings or
emotions. they (the Corp). exist only as a group of papers. they are run
by people, who for the most part, are trying to make it look as tho they
are both following the rules to play and work fair and make a
profit. IMHO, as I see it, the real problem is that a Corporations
right to exist trumps an individuals right to exist, legally.  

According to Roger Scruton, whose lectures I attended many years ago, a 
corporation has the status of a person in law.  This strikes me as 
unfortunate as a corporation, while possessing similar appetites, lacks 
many of the moral characteristics of a person - occasional inclinations 
towards altruism, any sense of fairness - above all, it completely lacks 
a sense of shame. It can, however, afford more and better legal help 
than the average regular person.

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Re: [newbie] interesting facts about kernel2.6

2003-07-21 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday July 21 2003 11:36 am, Frankie wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I was just reading up on the 2.6 kernel at:

 http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html

   and
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10587

  Linux appears to be on track with massive revisions and 
significant advances to be delivered to all of us within about 
another six months or so, when it's ready.

I suspect that'll 1stQ, next year

 And one of the new changes is that in order to use cdrw's
 you will no longer have to use scsi emulation..

 IDE CD/RW drives can now be written to directly through the
 real IDE disk driver, a much cleaner implementation than
 before. (Previously, it was required to also use a special
 SCSI-emulating driver which was confusing and often
 difficult.)

 That's gonna make newbie usage much simplier.

 There is a ton of other cool changes too, you guys should
 read up on this and see what is comming.

   Subscribe to LKML, filter '[PATCH]' posts to trash and read the 
rest by titles by interest. Makes it manageable.  Or just check the 
archive every once in awhile at 
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelr=1w=2

 In any event, 2.6 is about six months or more away. Longer than 
that as the default kernel in a major distro.  It'll then just be a 
.0 kernel, probly not quite mature. Still, I'd advise the 
adventurous to test it in the meantime. It will require other 
updates, gcc (downgraded compiler options), modutils, initrd   
and backward compatibility to 2.4 kernels will be touch an go for a 
while.  2.6 looks to be a /contrib option in 9.2 ... a test kernel.
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RE: [newbie] interesting facts about kernel2.6

2003-07-21 Thread Frankie
Some cool things summarised from the below url for people
that might not
want to wade though it.. (I only picked the onces cool to
me.)
http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html

- Ability to natively mount cifs filesystems (smb extended
for 2000, XP+ systems)
- No more scsi emulation for CDRW stuff.
- Ability to run a virtual linux inside linux for testing..
linux on linux.
- Much beter hardware support.
- Much much better sound support.
- Bluetooth.
- much more reliable NFS (ver4).
- full software-suspend-to-disk functionality for the Linux
user on the go.
- Hyperthreading (for the latest P4's).
- improved support: webcams, radio and TV adapters, and
digital video recorders.
- built-in support for Digital Video Broadcasting (DVB)
hardware. (tivo like functionality)
- Support for systems with multiple AGP cards.
- 2.6 now supports Windows' Logical Disk Manager (aka
Dynamic Disks)
- mount a NTFS volume read/write. (write still experimental,
but much better.)

Thats all the stuff you may not have heard.. its also
apparently faster and more responsive.

I can't wait..

Having said all that, from reading this article. I have
trouble with the idea that 2.6 would work
on a 9.0 or 9.1 system.. there are some fundamental changes
in the underlying structure of 2.6
that would require some changes to a 9.1 system before it
would work properly.

Anyway, I got all excited about this and had to share,, I am
seeing someone about this problem
and I hope to be able to restrain myself in future. :-)



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RE: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question

2003-07-21 Thread Frankie
hmmm, you might want to try running amavis-new as root (as a
test)

and also in debug mode.. I think its just:

amavis --debug

Try that as root and see what happens.

You'll see alot of stuff on STDOUT, including  the
initialisaton
of trophie and any other related daemons, (like clamd or
spamassassin).

Its possible that you have a permission problem..

Are you running amavis as vscam:amavis???

Were any errors reported when you compiled trophie??
I remember explicitly defining user and group to
amavis:amavis when I
compiled trophie, and when I forgot to do that the first
time I had
problems.



regards


Franki

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Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question


Looks like  we have about the same except for uid and gid.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tslater]# trophie -v
Initializing: VSAPI version 6.510-1002
Initializing: Pattern version 589 (pattern number 54450)
Socket path : /var/run/trophie
Timeout : 300 seconds
Running as user : vscan
Socket group: amavis
Max processes   : 20
PID file: /var/run/trophie.pid
Trophie version : 1.12
Cleanup : VSAPI cleaned up and terminated

[EMAIL PROTECTED] iscan]# ./vscan -v
Virus Scanner v3.1, VSAPI v6.510-1002
Trend Micro Inc. 1996,1997
Pattern version 589
Pattern number 54450
No scan target specified!! do nothing.

Todd

On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 10:49:36PM +0800, Frankie wrote:
 Incidently, I am running mandrake 9.0 on my mail server
and
 had no problem
 getting trophie to compile on it..
 I have not updated my engine yet.. but I doubt that will
 make any diff..
 maybe I will try it tomorrow and see if it works.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# trophie -v
 Initializing: VSAPI version 6.150-1001
 Initializing: Pattern version 589 (pattern number
48987)
 Socket path : /var/run/trophie
 Timeout : 300 seconds
 Running as user : amavis
 Socket group: amavis
 Max processes   : 20
 PID file: /var/run/trophie.pid
 Trophie version : 1.12
 Cleanup : VSAPI cleaned up and terminated
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]#

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Re: [newbie] Process that just *will not die*!

2003-07-21 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:13:20 +0800
Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 killall -9 gmplayer

sort of like, kill 'em all, let PID sort 'em out...

:)
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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-21 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:47:37 +0100
Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 According to Roger Scruton, whose lectures I attended many years ago,
 a corporation has the status of a person in law.  This strikes me as 
 unfortunate as a corporation, while possessing similar appetites,
 lacks many of the moral characteristics of a person - occasional
 inclinations towards altruism, any sense of fairness - above all, it
 completely lacks a sense of shame. It can, however, afford more and
 better legal help than the average regular person.

Give that man a CIGAR!

If the corporation is protected by the law, it is *bound* by it, ie. it
kills, it is charged with murder and the company officers go to *jail*.

If they pollute, they are charged with criminal negligence and the
corporate officers go to *jail*.

If they steal millions from honest shareholders and pensioners, the
company  officers go to *jail*.

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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 09:14:42AM -0700, Grant wrote:
 I was following the Gnome vs. KDE thread and decided to try XFce4.  I've
 downloaded and installed all the required rpm's in the correct order plus a
 few others.  I also followed the instructions on the download page to add an
 XFce4 entry to KDM, and I put the startup script outlined under My startup
 script in my /usr/bin directory.  But when I select XFce4 from KDM I end up
 in IceWM.  Does anyone have any advice for me?  Thanks!

Grant,

You can ignore the My startup script and use XFcd4's script, which is
at /usr/local/bin/startxfce4. So, you'd have to edit
/etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 (or whatever number you gave it) to point
to that script in both the exec lines.

Note that NAME in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 is case-sensitive in that
you need to use the same thing in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc. So, if
it's XFce4 in the first it needs to be that in the second.

Clear as mud? As an alternative, if you want to use the my startup
script, did you make it executable? (chmod +x scriptname)

Let us know how you get along.

Cheers,
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[newbie] Promise Fasttrack 376 and mdk 9.1

2003-07-21 Thread Andris Maziks
Hi,

May be someone can help with some information how-to get Promise Fasttrack 376 Raid 
controller work under mdk 9.1 
This is last thing which doesn't work for me on my Asus P4PE mainboard

Thanks in advance

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Re: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
Yeah, I thought it was possibly a permissions problem. I set up amavis
to run as vscan.amavis, same with clamd, same with trophie, which is
what I don't understand. Does vscan need to be vscan.amavis too?

When I run amavisd debug it doesn't say anything other than that it
found the internal scanner (trophie).

No errors compiling trophie, I did the same thing the first time by not
specifying the users and got a permission denied error, so I know *that*
was a permissions problem. But, I did a make clean and verified that it
runs as vscan.amavis.

Todd

On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 01:24:35AM +0800, Frankie wrote:
 hmmm, you might want to try running amavis-new as root (as a
 test)
 
 and also in debug mode.. I think its just:
 
 amavis --debug
 
 Try that as root and see what happens.
 
 You'll see alot of stuff on STDOUT, including  the
 initialisaton
 of trophie and any other related daemons, (like clamd or
 spamassassin).
 
 Its possible that you have a permission problem..
 
 Are you running amavis as vscam:amavis???
 
 Were any errors reported when you compiled trophie??
 I remember explicitly defining user and group to
 amavis:amavis when I
 compiled trophie, and when I forgot to do that the first
 time I had
 problems.
 
 
 
 regards
 
 
 Franki

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Re: [newbie] VI vs. Emacs (was Gnome vs. KDE)

2003-07-21 Thread JoeHill
On 21 Jul 2003 23:06:24 +1000
Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 ..or pico

loove pico!

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Re: [newbie] martian source in syslog

2003-07-21 Thread Sharrea
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:29, Sharrea wrote:
 Recently I got a satellite internet connection which uses a PCI Telemann
 Skymedia 200DPA card.  It was working fine until a few days ago when
 suddenly all packets received via this card are dropped by the kernel
 with the 'martian source' messages in syslog:

 Jul 20 09:22:40 tbird kernel: martian source 203.109.204.173 from
 210.55.24.8, on dev sm200d
 Jul 20 09:22:40 tbird kernel: ll header:
 ff:55:01:bc:90:00:00:90:bc:01:55:ff:08:00

 So obviously the kernel does not know where to route the packets to.  No
 settings were changed and my firewall rules are the same as when the
 connection was working.  Besides, this also happens with no firewall
 running.

 I still use a dialup 56K modem to upload (dynamic IP), so only download
 via satellite.  When the sat. card's driver is loaded this what ifconfig
 shows for these two devices:

snip

 Does anyone know how I tell the kernel that this device is supposed to
 receive packets from the internet?  I've spent two days fiddling with
 problem and I'm at a loss as to what to try next... and I've not much
 hair left to pull out ;)   ANY help would be very much appreciated.

Just thought I'd let everyone know in case it happens to someone else:  the 
answer was to issue the command (as root user):

echo 0  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/rp_filter

Thanks to Nic on the NZLUG mailing list.

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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Brooks3J
Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 So, you'd have to edit
/etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 (or whatever number you gave it) to point
to that script in both the exec lines.


Todd,
  When I installed everything (I think) I did not get the above file (certainly not in 
the above location anyway).  Did I do something wrong?  Also, how do I modify scripts? 
 If I open the file I can read it but it doesn't let me change anything.

Thanks for your time
Jack

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RE: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Grant

 On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 09:14:42AM -0700, Grant wrote:
  I was following the Gnome vs. KDE thread and decided to try XFce4.  I've
  downloaded and installed all the required rpm's in the correct
 order plus a
  few others.  I also followed the instructions on the download
 page to add an
  XFce4 entry to KDM, and I put the startup script outlined under
 My startup
  script in my /usr/bin directory.  But when I select XFce4 from
 KDM I end up
  in IceWM.  Does anyone have any advice for me?  Thanks!

 Grant,

 You can ignore the My startup script and use XFcd4's script, which is
 at /usr/local/bin/startxfce4. So, you'd have to edit
 /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 (or whatever number you gave it) to point
 to that script in both the exec lines.

 Note that NAME in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 is case-sensitive in that
 you need to use the same thing in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc. So, if
 it's XFce4 in the first it needs to be that in the second.

 Clear as mud? As an alternative, if you want to use the my startup
 script, did you make it executable? (chmod +x scriptname)

 Let us know how you get along.

 Cheers,
 Todd

Todd, thanks so much.  The key info for me was making the file executable
(so that's why those filenames are green).  I've installed all the packages
and am currently using your startup script.  What should my script look like
if I want to turn everything on and take it for a ride?  I don't seem to
have the default startup script under /usr/local/bin .  Thanks!

- Grant


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RE: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question

2003-07-21 Thread Frankie
well I can't specify with any certaintly what your problem
is..

but when i did it on mdk9.0,
I have amavis-new, and trophie running as amavis.amavis
It worked straight off the bat once I did that.
Have you asked the trophie developer what the -4 error is??
Is it mentioned on his site?
I still think its some sort of permissions thing.


rgds

Franki



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Behalf Of Todd Slater
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 4:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] ATTN Franki: amavis + trophie question


Yeah, I thought it was possibly a permissions problem. I set
up amavis
to run as vscan.amavis, same with clamd, same with trophie,
which is
what I don't understand. Does vscan need to be vscan.amavis
too?

When I run amavisd debug it doesn't say anything other
than that it
found the internal scanner (trophie).

No errors compiling trophie, I did the same thing the first
time by not
specifying the users and got a permission denied error, so I
know *that*
was a permissions problem. But, I did a make clean and
verified that it
runs as vscan.amavis.

Todd

On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 01:24:35AM +0800, Frankie wrote:
 hmmm, you might want to try running amavis-new as root (as
a
 test)

 and also in debug mode.. I think its just:

 amavis --debug

 Try that as root and see what happens.

 You'll see alot of stuff on STDOUT, including  the
 initialisaton
 of trophie and any other related daemons, (like clamd or
 spamassassin).

 Its possible that you have a permission problem..

 Are you running amavis as vscam:amavis???

 Were any errors reported when you compiled trophie??
 I remember explicitly defining user and group to
 amavis:amavis when I
 compiled trophie, and when I forgot to do that the first
 time I had
 problems.



 regards


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Re: [newbie] VI vs. Emacs (was Gnome vs. KDE)

2003-07-21 Thread Anders Lind
 
 loove pico!

If you love pico you will absolutely adore Nano since it is
also Free Software

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Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.

2003-07-21 Thread Daryl Johnson
On Monday 21 Jul 2003 8:54 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:47:37 +0100

 Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  According to Roger Scruton, whose lectures I attended many years ago,
  a corporation has the status of a person in law.  This strikes me as
  unfortunate as a corporation, while possessing similar appetites,
  lacks many of the moral characteristics of a person - occasional
  inclinations towards altruism, any sense of fairness - above all, it
  completely lacks a sense of shame. It can, however, afford more and
  better legal help than the average regular person.

 Give that man a CIGAR!

 If the corporation is protected by the law, it is *bound* by it, ie. it
 kills, it is charged with murder and the company officers go to *jail*.

 If they pollute, they are charged with criminal negligence and the
 corporate officers go to *jail*.

 If they steal millions from honest shareholders and pensioners, the
 company  officers go to *jail*.

And yet when millions of punters swap, copy and give away legitimate works 
protected by copyright it isn't seen as theft at all.

I'm prepared to get as excitable as the next person about excessive profits 
and ripping off punters.  There is a legitimate argument to be made from 
economics that when the prices are too high there is something rotten 
somewhere.

HOWEVER, the fact remains that too many people have been getting on some very 
high horses having somehow levitated themselves into the saddle.  They sure 
didn't climb there step by logical step.  Breach of copyright is theft.  The 
Millenium Act isn't the answer but then again two wrongs never did make a 
right eh?

regards

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Re: [newbie] martian source in syslog

2003-07-21 Thread Sharrea
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:19, Sharrea wrote:
 Just thought I'd let everyone know in case it happens to someone else: 
 the answer was to issue the command (as root user):

 echo 0  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/rp_filter

Oops, forgot to mention:  see kernel docs-
Configure.help from line 5220

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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 03:46:16PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  So, you'd have to edit
 /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 (or whatever number you gave it) to point
 to that script in both the exec lines.
 
 
 Todd,
   When I installed everything (I think) I did not get the above file (certainly not 
 in the above location anyway).  Did I do something wrong?  Also, how do I modify 
 scripts?  If I open the file I can read it but it doesn't let me change anything.
 
 Thanks for your time
 Jack

Jack, that is if you want to add an XFce4 entry to KDM, the graphical
login manager. If you don't want to do that, you can ignore it. 

You *can* use the startup script I provided, but I really think 
/usr/local/bin/startxfce4 is better. If you save it as .xsession
(backup your old .xsession if you have one) and choose Default in KDM,
it will execute the .xsession script. It has to be executable (chmod u+x
.xsession)

If you just log in via command line, you can execute
/usr/local/bin/startxfce4 to start xfce4.

I can't really help with GDM.

As far as modifying scripts, it must be a permission issue. Who owns the
script you want to modify? If you're talking about something system-wide
you most likely have to be root to modify it.

Todd

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Re: [newbie] VI vs. Emacs (was Gnome vs. KDE)

2003-07-21 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:33:24 +0200
Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 If you love pico you will absolutely adore Nano since it is
 also Free Software

Isn't it pretty much the same? or are there additional features?

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[newbie] opening port 8080

2003-07-21 Thread Russ Rollins
Wondering if anyone could assist me in opening port 8080 to the outside
world. Currently running Manrdake 9.1 in msec 4, I've added 8080 to the
firewall port allowances (through Mandrake CC) and netstat shows
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:80800.0.0.0:*  
LISTEN

I can't think of anything  else I need to modify in order for this port
to available to the world. I can clearly see port 80 and serve pages
from it, but not with 8080. What am I missing?

TIA,
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Re: [newbie] XFce4 newbie problems

2003-07-21 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:37:34 -0700
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 09:14:42AM -0700, Grant wrote:
   I was following the Gnome vs. KDE thread and decided to try XFce4.
I've
   downloaded and installed all the required rpm's in the correct
  order plus a
   few others.  I also followed the instructions on the download
  page to add an
   XFce4 entry to KDM, and I put the startup script outlined under
  My startup
   script in my /usr/bin directory.  But when I select XFce4 from
  KDM I end up
   in IceWM.  Does anyone have any advice for me?  Thanks!
 
  Grant,
 
  You can ignore the My startup script and use XFcd4's script, which
  is at /usr/local/bin/startxfce4. So, you'd have to edit
  /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 (or whatever number you gave it) to
  point to that script in both the exec lines.
 
  Note that NAME in /etc/X11/wmsession.d/19xfce4 is case-sensitive in
  that you need to use the same thing in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.
  So, if it's XFce4 in the first it needs to be that in the second.
 
  Clear as mud? As an alternative, if you want to use the my startup
  script, did you make it executable? (chmod +x scriptname)
 
  Let us know how you get along.
 
  Cheers,
  Todd
 
 Todd, thanks so much.  The key info for me was making the file
 executable(so that's why those filenames are green).  I've installed
 all the packages and am currently using your startup script.  What
 should my script look like if I want to turn everything on and take it
 for a ride?  I don't seem to have the default startup script under
 /usr/local/bin .  Thanks!
 
 - Grant

Glad it's working. You don't have startxfce4 in /usr/local/bin?

Really all you need is:

xfce-mcs-manager 
xfwm4 --daemon
xftaskbar4 
xfdesktop 
exec xfce4-panel

I'm back to using the taskbar now instead of the iconbox; you can run
them both at the same time I suppose.

Most everything else is a panel plugin or available through setup.
Right-click the panel to add a new item or set the properties of the
various packages.

Cheers,
Todd

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Re: [newbie] VI vs. Emacs (was Gnome vs. KDE)

2003-07-21 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 05:49, JoeHill wrote:
 On 21 Jul 2003 23:06:24 +1000
 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  ..or pico
 
 loove pico!

Sure ya ain't got the munchies and you're thinking of PICANTE?

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Re: [newbie] Process that just *will not die*!

2003-07-21 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 08:10, Chris wrote:
 On Monday 21 July 2003 08:04 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 20:45, JoeHill wrote:
   Ok, gmplayer is running in the background.
  
   I have tried to kill it with signal 9 as root, I don't know what else to
   do except reboot.
  
   Help me Obi Wan! (or Stephen...)
 
  (If it's running and you didn't run it, do all of this from the term)
 
  killall -KILL gmplayer
  killall -KILL gconfd-2
  oaf-slay
  bonobo-slay
 
 wouldn't a kill -15 process # do the same thing?

I just like typing the word kill over and over again. Makes me feel
really good.

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Re: [newbie] VI vs. Emacs (was Gnome vs. KDE)

2003-07-21 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 21 July 2003 05:35 pm, JoeHill wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:33:24 +0200

 Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
  If you love pico you will absolutely adore Nano since it is
  also Free Software

 Isn't it pretty much the same? or are there additional features?

Nano is free, pico is distributed under the pine license which is not free as 
defined by the FSF.
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Re: [newbie] Process that just *will not die*!

2003-07-21 Thread Chris
On Monday 21 July 2003 08:04 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 20:45, JoeHill wrote:
  Ok, gmplayer is running in the background.
 
  I have tried to kill it with signal 9 as root, I don't know what else to
  do except reboot.
 
  Help me Obi Wan! (or Stephen...)

 (If it's running and you didn't run it, do all of this from the term)

 killall -KILL gmplayer
 killall -KILL gconfd-2
 oaf-slay
 bonobo-slay

wouldn't a kill -15 process # do the same thing?

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