[newbie] Virus problems
Increasingly, members of this list are being accused of sending virused emails. I know that some of you have no choice but to use windows for part of your life, but PLEASE, if you do, check that you are clean. Our addresses are being picked up from somewhere, and more and more clues point to someone who uses linux mailing lists. The warning I received this morning was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is having LILO/GRUB on the MBR harmful to XP?
Guy Rouillier wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 00:13:59 -0500 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what I need. On the first primary partition (C: to Windows),WinNT/2K/XP will always put ntldr and ntdetect.com in the root. The waySystem Commander handles this is to create backup directories for each version, e.g., c:\sc\win2k and c:\sc\winxp. It copies the startup files into these backup directories, and then when you ask to boot a particular version, it copies the set of files in that directory into c:\, then tells the operating system to boot. Appreciate any options you can think of. I still have System Commander, I have never used system commander. I have used windows to boot mandrake. I cannot remember how it was done, basically you have to create a new entry for booting Mandrake in windblows equivelant of /etc/lilo.conf, but it's not worth he hastle. Easiest way is to remove system commander, slap your Windblows Install CD of whichever windblows OS you want to use to load for all the win OS( in your case either NT,or W2K, or XP) run it to fix MBR Then proceed to install Mandrake and let it put lilo in the mbr(it does no harm whatsoever) and use Lilo to boot mandrake, and chain load onto Windblows for the 3 Win OS's. that way you don't have to mess about much. Any time you want to change an OS it's easy. My MSI motherboard doesn't think mandrake is a virus. But you say, MSI motherboard. This MB has a virus checker in the BIOS what makes this happen ? That is the question ? My MSI mobo has both a bios and a boot sector virus checker and neither interfere with lilo and my mandrake boots. It's odd that you are having this problem, is there a genuine virus in there ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] unable to ping to/from my windoze box]
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 04:29, Anne Wilson wrote: [...snip] I'm not sure what's gone before, Merlin, but here's my thoughts. Assuming you're using 9.2? Try kdesu That brings up konqueror with root priveleges, I believe. You should then be able to right-click /etc/hosts and edit it. HTH Hi Anne, No, I'm using 9.0 - and it didn't work; it said No command specified. Must be some new addition I guess. -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] unable to ping to/from my windoze box]
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 07:58, Steve Kaufman wrote: [...snip] As a newbie this command intrigued me so I played with it and the way to use it is 'kdesu kedit /etc/hosts' and it will then prompt you for root password and when you put it in it should open the file in edit and you can then save it. yes, that worked - thanks Steve. So now I'm back to the original problem. I was able to edit my /etc/hosts file so it now reads: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.10laptop.workgroup laptop 192.168.0.20cel2gthai.workgroup cel2gthai But the problem is still the same as before: If I set the NIC to auto in DrakeConnect it hangs on bringing up ETH0 when booting, and I can't ping to/from the laptop. If I set it to 192.168.0.20, then the machines can ping, but the internet doesn't work. And I haven't even got to the stage of getting Samba sorted yet... -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Whats happinging
Imgot this security warning can any one tell me what this means Have I been hacked ? TIA smitty From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 4 12:14:08 2004 Received: (qmail 2200 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2004 12:14:08 - Received: from dsl081-053-247.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO slowbox.com) ([64.81.53.247]) (envelope-sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mail7.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 4 Feb 2004 12:14:08 - Received: by slowbox.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id A4EA7A0582; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 07:13:05 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [msec] *** Security Check on slowbox.com, Wed Feb 4 04:13:05 PST 2004 *** Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 07:13:05 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root) X-Evolution-Source: pop://[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Security Warning: These files belonging to packages are modified on the system : - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/fonts.cache-1 - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/menu - /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives/fonts.cache-1 Security Warning: These config files belonging to packages are modified on the system : - /etc/X11/fs/config - /etc/cups/classes.conf - /etc/cups/printers.conf - /etc/host.conf - /etc/info-dir - /etc/inittab - /etc/login.defs - /etc/modules - /etc/modules.conf - /etc/mtools.conf - /etc/pam.d/system-auth - /etc/printcap - /etc/sane.d/dll.conf - /etc/shells - /etc/shorewall/interfaces - /etc/shorewall/policy - /etc/shorewall/zones - /etc/ssl/webmin/miniserv.pem - /etc/sysconfig/bootsplash - /etc/sysconfig/harddrake2/previous_hw - /etc/sysconfig/msec - /etc/sysconfig/usb - /etc/sysctl.conf - /etc/syslog.conf - /etc/xml/catalog - /usr/share/config/kdeglobals - /usr/share/config/kdesktoprc - /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc - /usr/share/config/konquerorrc - /usr/share/sgml/docbook/xmlcatalog These are the ports listening on your machine : Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp0 0 localhost:32768 *:* LISTEN 2074/xinetd tcp0 0 *:sunrpc*:* LISTEN 1013/portmap tcp0 0 *:1 *:* LISTEN 2635/perl tcp0 0 *:x11 *:* LISTEN 1993/X tcp0 0 *:ipp *:* LISTEN 2198/cupsd tcp0 0 *:socks *:* LISTEN 2541/socks5 tcp0 0 localhost:smtp *:* LISTEN 2474/master udp0 0 *:1 *:* 2635/perl udp0 0 *:32802 *:* 3962/xmms udp0 0 *:32803 *:* 3962/xmms udp0 0 localhost:domain*:* 2025/tmdns udp0 0 224.0.0.251:5353*:* 2025/tmdns udp0 0 slowbox.com:5353*:* 2025/tmdns udp0 0 localhost:5353 *:* 2025/tmdns udp0 0 *:sunrpc*:* 1013/portmap udp0 0 *:ipp *:* 2198/cupsd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] real player codecs in plf mplayer?
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 18:01:17 -0800 aronsmith disseminated the following: Tried claws but can't get it to open a link love the spellchecker tho. Highlight the link w/ yer mouse, then middle click on your browser window. Presto! -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 07:57:50 up 19:43, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.35, 0.73 +++ Linux 2.4.22-21mdk i686 +++ I believe what I said yesterday ... I don't know what I said, er, but I know what I think, and ... well, I assume it's what I said.-- Donald Rumsfeld Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whats happinging
Aron; First of all, it would be a better idea to send the file as a text file, and , in light of all the viruses going around, it would also be a good idea to let people know that you attached the file to the email. Considering the nature of the text, and the size of the file, you probably could have copied and pasted the info directly into your email. God! Now i sound like a List Nazi ! Grin! As to the info inn the file, it it normal info. The first section called Security Warning is only telling you that the files have been modified which could be something as simple as a package that you upgraded. The second section is just telling you that an assorted list of services on your system are listening for connections, or in other words, that they're ready, running, and listening for requests from other PC's. Now keep in mind that if this particular box doesn't need some of the services that are listed here, you should shut them down, and possibly remove them from the system, and of course, if this system is directly connected to your internet connection, and you don't have a firewall in place, then yes, you're asking for trouble. If you'd like to know what ports are actually being seen by anyone or anything on the Internet, browse over to http://scan.sygate.com; and run a quick scan. That will give you a pretty thorough report on what ports under 1025 are open and visible to the Internet. Hope this helps? Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/4/2004 at 4:52 AM aronsmith wrote: Imgot this security warning can any one tell me what this means Have I been hacked ? TIA smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ide task - not cyncing
If you sometimes get warning messages on bootup, Ide task - not cyncing kernel panic killing interrupts handler- not syncing what does it actually signify ? what should I be looking for ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Updated
Updated rpms for 9.2 now available bookcase-0.8.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm sylpheed-0.9.9-0.1mdk.i586.rpm libnspr4-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm libnspr4-devel-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm libnss3-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm libnss3-devel-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-devel-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-dom-inspector-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmail-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmime-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-irc-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-js-debugger-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-mail-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm *Note: This release is patched to hopefully fix the issues seen with enigmail Charles -- This land is full of trousers! this land is full of mausers! And pussycats to eat them when the sun goes down! -- Firesign Theater -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 Registered Linux user #182463 Machine: BigBoy #184142 *http://www.eslrahc.com* -- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
Anne Wilson wrote: Increasingly, members of this list are being accused of sending virused emails. I know that some of you have no choice but to use windows for part of your life, but PLEASE, if you do, check that you are clean. Our addresses are being picked up from somewhere, and more and more clues point to someone who uses linux mailing lists. The warning I received this morning was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not necessary to use Windows to have your address appear in the From header of a virus - all that is necessary is for your email address to be in the address book of someone who has an infected computer. Same goes for spam - I've had mails ostensibly from myself offering the usual viagra, organ enlargement etc. Sir Robin -- Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. - Winston Churchill Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 2.6: The Speed Demon
For those of you struggling to get 2.6 up and running, and those who are lukewarm on the subject, check out what you're missing (as am I): http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Feb/gee20040203023723.htm -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 08:36:52 up 20:22, 5 users, load average: 0.22, 0.09, 0.10 +++ Linux 2.4.22-21mdk i686 +++ In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than just ideals to be valued - they may be essential to survival-- Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Suggestions for an email program that can be used from Linux and WIN 2000
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 01:15, Steve Kaufman wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 03 February 2004 11:53, Steve Kaufman wrote: Thx for the replies, from Dave, Guy and Anne on this. Will look at this slowly. Of course it never fails for the first time in my life I actually bought a mail program (Increimail) a couple of months ago and not it looks like I will have to scrap it. Since you've paid for it, why not try their tech support before you give in. If they're clued up they should be able to tell you what format the mail is saved in, and whether it's possible to save it to a folder that can be used by your linux mail package. Hmm - you're right. Although the program is visually the same, linux saves Mozilla mail as mbox files - I've no idea what formats /imm and .imh are. If you want to explore the idea further, though, sign up for Mozilla Chat - hitting the Chatzilla button takes you to a page saying that it is for developers only, but directs you to another page, whose name I can quite remember, but it ends in azine. If you ask a question there about the possibility of reading through both OSs you are likely to get an answer from one of the developers. I found them very helpful when I had a tech. query. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] unable to ping to/from my windoze box]
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 11:20, Merlin Zener wrote: On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 04:29, Anne Wilson wrote: [...snip] I'm not sure what's gone before, Merlin, but here's my thoughts. Assuming you're using 9.2? Try kdesu That brings up konqueror with root priveleges, I believe. You should then be able to right-click /etc/hosts and edit it. HTH Hi Anne, No, I'm using 9.0 - and it didn't work; it said No command specified. Must be some new addition I guess. In 9.0 you should have File Manager - Super User Mode. Using that you can open /etc/host with kedit, kwrite or any other editor and save the amended file, because you need the root password to access FM-SUMode. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 13:32, robin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Increasingly, members of this list are being accused of sending virused emails. I know that some of you have no choice but to use windows for part of your life, but PLEASE, if you do, check that you are clean. Our addresses are being picked up from somewhere, and more and more clues point to someone who uses linux mailing lists. The warning I received this morning was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not necessary to use Windows to have your address appear in the From header of a virus - all that is necessary is for your email address to be in the address book of someone who has an infected computer. Same goes for spam - I've had mails ostensibly from myself offering the usual viagra, organ enlargement etc. Sir Robin Agreed, Robin, but I ask myself who would have an addressbook with the names of a number of people from a linux mailing list? It could be coincidence, but working on the principle that two is coincidence, three, just possibly, more than that - probably not Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] 2.6: The Speed Demon
I have to agree, when my system was running with the 2.6 kernel, it was significantly faster than the 2.4, that was just using the desktop. Tony. -Original Message- From: JoeHill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 1:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] 2.6: The Speed Demon For those of you struggling to get 2.6 up and running, and those who are lukewarm on the subject, check out what you're missing (as am I): http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Feb/gee20040203023723.htm -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 08:36:52 up 20:22, 5 users, load average: 0.22, 0.09, 0.10 +++ Linux 2.4.22-21mdk i686 +++ In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than just ideals to be valued - they may be essential to survival-- Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mydoom is a spoofer
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 12:34 am, Erylon Hines wrote: The fact that Chevron is sending bounces to the forged From address only underscores their own cluelessness. If you tell me that they left the virus complete and attached to the bounce, then their journey to the moron side is complete. I can attest to the fact that disney.com pulls that little gem. Well, what should one expect from a Mickey Mouse company like that. Okay, that is bad but I couldn't resist. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Wireless bridging question
A fairly simple question but I haven't found a straight answer yet: Is it necessary for the wireless card to be an access point or can I bridge wlan0 (in ad-hoc mode) to eth0 as I would two normal ethernet nic's?? Thanks, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mydoom is a spoofer
Bryan your just Goofy. -Original Message- From: Bryan Phinney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mydoom is a spoofer On Wednesday 04 February 2004 12:34 am, Erylon Hines wrote: The fact that Chevron is sending bounces to the forged From address only underscores their own cluelessness. If you tell me that they left the virus complete and attached to the bounce, then their journey to the moron side is complete. I can attest to the fact that disney.com pulls that little gem. Well, what should one expect from a Mickey Mouse company like that. Okay, that is bad but I couldn't resist. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whats happinging
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 05:09, Lanman wrote: Aron; First of all, it would be a better idea to send the file as a text file, and , in light of all the viruses going around, it would also be a good idea to let people know that you attached the file to the email. Considering the nature of the text, and the size of the file, you probably could have copied and pasted the info directly into your email. God! Now i sound like a List Nazi ! Grin! My goof :( As to the info inn the file, it it normal info. The first section called Security Warning is only telling you that the files have been modified which could be something as simple as a package that you upgraded. The second section is just telling you that an assorted list of services on your system are listening for connections, or in other words, that they're ready, running, and listening for requests from other PC's. Now keep in mind that if this particular box doesn't need some of the services that are listed here, you should shut them down, and possibly remove them from the system, and of course, if this system is directly connected to your internet connection, and you don't have a firewall in place, then yes, you're asking for trouble. I do have shorewall running . Any Idea what services I can get rid of? TIA smitty If you'd like to know what ports are actually being seen by anyone or anything on the Internet, browse over to http://scan.sygate.com; and run a quick scan. That will give you a pretty thorough report on what ports under 1025 are open and visible to the Internet. Hope this helps? Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/4/2004 at 4:52 AM aronsmith wrote: Imgot this security warning can any one tell me what this means Have I been hacked ? TIA smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updated
Uytkownik Charles A Edwards napisa: Updated rpms for 9.2 now available bookcase-0.8.1-0.1mdk.i586.rpm sylpheed-0.9.9-0.1mdk.i586.rpm libnspr4-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm libnspr4-devel-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm libnss3-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm libnss3-devel-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-devel-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-dom-inspector-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmail-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmime-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-irc-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-js-debugger-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-mail-1.6-4.5mdk.i586.rpm *Note: This release is patched to hopefully fix the issues seen with enigmail Charles I hate to disappoint you, Charles, but it happened to me AGAIN. Well... I found something. It looks that the new enigmail GUI is incompatible with mozilla-1.4's (and 1.6's) classic and modern themes. To workaround it, I installed LittleMozilla theme from mozdev.org. The theme is rahter cheesy, but it's better than losing 80% of the window. Another thing is that gtk-theme-switch and gtk-theme-switch in contrib appears to be buggy. When I try to run switch, the message appears: GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 186 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed. Another weird thing is that seems that it is set to theme 4Missy (???) by default. And when I try to change theme to Default, another happy message appears: Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 440 (gtk_entry_set_text): assertion `text != NULL' failed. When I try to fight with it again (or try switch2), the variants of these messages appear. And I am uncertain where exactly this bug report should go. Mandrake? Gnome? Can somebody give me a hint? Wojciech Podgrni Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.6: The Speed Demon
JoeHill wrote: For those of you struggling to get 2.6 up and running, and those who are lukewarm on the subject, check out what you're missing (as am I): http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Feb/gee20040203023723.htm Interesting, though it seems to be saying that the main advantages are for high-end servers. Any comments on the desktop end? I've heard from many places that 2.6 won't support 3D acceleration, but nVidia's latest Linux drivers claim to be 2.6-compatible. Anyone got them working? Incidentally, don't try using the latest nVidia drivers with the 2.4 kernel that comes with Mdk 9.2 - you'll get a black screen. Sir Robin -- Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. - Winston Churchill Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU temperatures and cooling issues + memory
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 05:03 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: No mine is a heat transfer problem that I want to improve.I think the 7CM fan provides enough volume of air but the heat is not being transfered quickly enough to the airflow. That's why I am considering a copper base heatsink, but it's nice to hear from people who have experienced these things ahead of me. I've never used a copper based heatsink. It seems to me these heatsinks have a terribly difficult job to do, the cpu which is only about 10 mm square generates a lot of heat and that has to be whipped away pronto through solid metal. I guess the fins have to be really cold to generate a cross flow of heat energy. It's incredible it works at all. If your interested to know more about the two heatsinks I mention above just type the model number into google. John IME, case air flow is much more important than the cpu heatsink/fan used, or whether it's copper or aluminum. The main reason to use thermal grease instead of a thermal pad, is the pads deteriorate over time. The hotter the cpu, the faster they fail. I've even seen some that were burned to a crisp. My current cpu is an XP 3000+, default is 2166Mhz. I had it oc'd to 2366Mhz and 1.75Vcore for several months, solid as a rock. Usin an el cheap $5 Speeze aluminum cooler that came bundled with the cpu/ motherboard. At 100% load it never got over 48C. Generic thermal grease, I've never used the kiddie popular expensive stuff like Artic Silver. Unfortunately the system became very unstable. I had to underclock it to 1.4Ghz and it'd still error, freeze, lockup, or random reboot itself. I endured that for quite a while till I settled on the (Aopen) motherboard as the culprit. First component I've ever ruined in many years of oc'ing to the max. When I bought a new (Asus) motherboard, I included a $30 K7 Volocano+ Xaser Edition (p/n A1725) solid copper cooler with a 80x80x25 mm fan on it with the order. It comes with an optional fan speed control which I didn't use. Running the fan at 100% rpm all the time. I also keep fan bios settings at 100% as I did with the previous motherboard. I used the grease that came with the Volcano. This is the first time I've ever used anything but a cheap generic cooler. It's also the first copper one. The cpu is now oc'd to 2250Mhz (13x173FSB), 1.67 Vcore and at 100% load the cpu never gets over 48C. IOW's the same damn temps I got with the cheap aluminum cooler. Case is still cooled as it was before, it's open on both sides and on top. Necessary as it's against an outside wall in a cubby hole underneath the (booth style) table and seats I have in my travel trailer. For cooling, the most important requisite is to keep case temp at room temp. Any decent cooler will do, as long as it's firmly and squarely in contact with the greased cpu die. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updated
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 15:35:35 +0100 Wojciech Podgórni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 186 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed. Another weird thing is that seems that it is set to theme 4Missy (???) by default. And when I try to change theme to Default, another happy message appears: Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 440 (gtk_entry_set_text): assertion `text != NULL' failed. This is classic gtk1.2 and gtk++2 infighting. Mozilla is now gtk2 and will only support gtk2 themes. Some of the WM's and the corresponding themes they make use of are gtk1.2 based. If you have xfce4 installed can you boot to it and see if you get the same behaviour. Charles -- For I perceive that behind this seemingly unrelated sequence of events, there lurks a singular, sinister attitude of mind. Whose? MINE! HA-HA! - Mandrake Linux 10.0 on PurpleDragon 2.6.2-0.rc2.1.tmb.2mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [newbie] 2.6: The Speed Demon
I never used the Nvidia drivers as they did not have the drivers at the time. I am going to put beta2 on tonight and I will let you know tomorrow. Tony. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 2.6: The Speed Demon JoeHill wrote: For those of you struggling to get 2.6 up and running, and those who are lukewarm on the subject, check out what you're missing (as am I): http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Feb/gee20040203023723.htm Interesting, though it seems to be saying that the main advantages are for high-end servers. Any comments on the desktop end? I've heard from many places that 2.6 won't support 3D acceleration, but nVidia's latest Linux drivers claim to be 2.6-compatible. Anyone got them working? Incidentally, don't try using the latest nVidia drivers with the 2.4 kernel that comes with Mdk 9.2 - you'll get a black screen. Sir Robin -- Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. - Winston Churchill Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
robin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Increasingly, members of this list are being accused of sending virused emails. I know that some of you have no choice but to use windows for part of your life, but PLEASE, if you do, check that you are clean. Our addresses are being picked up from somewhere, and more and more clues point to someone who uses linux mailing lists. The warning I received this morning was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not necessary to use Windows to have your address appear in the From header of a virus - all that is necessary is for your email address to be in the address book of someone who has an infected computer. Same goes for spam - I've had mails ostensibly from myself offering the usual viagra, organ enlargement etc. Sir Robin You too. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whats happinging
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 05:09, Lanman wrote: Aron; First of all, it would be a better idea to send the file as a text file, and , in light of all the viruses going around, it would also be a good idea to let people know that you attached the file to the email. Considering the nature of the text, and the size of the file, you probably could have copied and pasted the info directly into your email. God! Now i sound like a List Nazi ! Grin! As to the info inn the file, it it normal info. The first section called Security Warning is only telling you that the files have been modified which could be something as simple as a package that you upgraded. The second section is just telling you that an assorted list of services on your system are listening for connections, or in other words, that they're ready, running, and listening for requests from other PC's. Now keep in mind that if this particular box doesn't need some of the services that are listed here, you should shut them down, and possibly remove them from the system, and of course, if this system is directly connected to your Internet connection, and you don't have a firewall in place, then yes, you're asking for trouble. If you'd like to know what ports are actually being seen by anyone or anything on the Internet, browse over to http://scan.sygate.com; and run a quick scan. That will give you a pretty thorough report on what ports under 1025 are open and visible to the Internet. Got it bookmarked thanks (I'm gonna have to get serious about security gonna get the separate firewall up in the next day or so (2 firewalls any reason to?.. not to? Hope this helps? Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/4/2004 at 4:52 AM aronsmith wrote: Imgot this security warning can any one tell me what this means Have I been hacked ? TIA smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 07:07, John Richard Smith wrote: robin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Increasingly, members of this list are being accused of sending virused emails. I know that some of you have no choice but to use windows for part of your life, but PLEASE, if you do, check that you are clean. Our addresses are being picked up from somewhere, and more and more clues point to someone who uses linux mailing lists. The warning I received this morning was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not necessary to use Windows to have your address appear in the From header of a virus - all that is necessary is for your email address to be in the address book of someone who has an infected computer. Same goes for spam - I've had mails ostensibly from myself offering the usual viagra, organ enlargement etc. Sir Robin You too. John Im starting to get them too. smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.6: The Speed Demon
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 08:13 am, robin wrote: http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Feb/gee20040203023723.h tm Interesting, though it seems to be saying that the main advantages are for high-end servers. Any comments on the desktop end? I see very little speed difference, and I'm using the sup'd up tmb versions, 2.6.2-0.rc2.1.tmb.2mdk MOF, my hdparm -t numbers are lower under 2.6.x, 47 down to 40mb/s. Biggest changes for desktops are increased hardware support. ide-scsi is no longer used, all CD drives are now scsci driven. On my board (Asus A7V600), ACPI and APIC now want to be enabled, but I do have better IRQ routing. Sound is sometimes a little tinny an ragged, but I believe thats due to newer Alsa versions in 2.6.x kernels. 2.4.x kernels didn't really start to jell till 2.4.13. I suspect 2.6.x wont need that many versions to mature. Linus has said so! ;)I agree with JoeHill tho, those that can run 2.6.x now, should. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU temperatures and cooling issues + memory
Tom Brinkman wrote: Unfortunately the system became very unstable. I had to underclock it to 1.4Ghz and it'd still error, freeze, lockup, or random reboot itself. I endured that for quite a while till I settled on the (Aopen) motherboard as the culprit. First component I've ever ruined in many years of oc'ing to the max. When I bought a new (Asus) motherboard, I included a $30 K7 Volocano+ Xaser Edition (p/n A1725) solid copper cooler with a 80x80x25 mm fan on it with the order. It comes with an optional fan speed control which I didn't use. Running the fan at 100% rpm all the time. I also keep fan bios settings at 100% as I did with the previous motherboard. I used the grease that came with the Volcano. This is the first time I've ever used anything but a cheap generic cooler. It's also the first copper one. The cpu is now oc'd to 2250Mhz (13x173FSB), 1.67 Vcore and at 100% load the cpu never gets over 48C. IOW's the same damn temps I got with the cheap aluminum cooler. Case is still cooled as it was before, it's open on both sides and on top. Necessary as it's against an outside wall in a cubby hole underneath the (booth style) table and seats I have in my travel trailer. For cooling, the most important requisite is to keep case temp at room temp. Any decent cooler will do, as long as it's firmly and squarely in contact with the greased cpu die. That is so interesting Tom, I had wondered whether most of this attention to make and model would be mostly hype. I currently have an all ally evercool ND15-715CA it has a 70mm fan controlled by bios. I think the airflow seems good. No reason to think it is getting trapped. The only thing about this heatsink that has me questioning it is the power of the retention spring clip itself. Compared to other makes and models I've fitted before, the retention clips are too easy to fit to the cpu. No, I hear you say, so what. Well the heatsink , if you notice carefully, sits in situe on 4 small rubber grommits about 3mm each in diameter.So the heatsink has to be held really firmly against them to make the heatsink BED down flush onto the cpu. If insufficient pressure is exerted by the retention clip there might be a possibility of the heatsink not fitting flush onto the cpu. I know, the heatsink paste ought to take care of it but maybe not enough ? It's only a thought. I already have both the case sides off , don't make much difference though, about -1C is all I get overall on the case temperature. Case airflow is in at the front low down under the harddrives and out either through the PSU, or a vent in the rear of the case undet the PSU. Entirely conventional in layout. I have no means of removing the top. I don't know what else I can do without getting surgical . The computer sits on my bench beside me which means about as good a spot as I will get for general room airflow. So what I'm reading from your experience seems to suggest I ought to be getting better general temperatures than I am getting, but with the one possiblity of the strength of the retention clips , I cannot see what I'm doing differently from you and yet I would feel more comfortable if my cpu temps were held well withing the 40 to 48 range under all load conditions. Hmm. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Updated
Uytkownik Charles A Edwards napisa: On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 15:35:35 +0100 Wojciech Podgrni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 186 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed. Another weird thing is that seems that it is set to theme 4Missy (???) by default. And when I try to change theme to Default, another happy message appears: Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkentry.c: line 440 (gtk_entry_set_text): assertion `text != NULL' failed. This is classic gtk1.2 and gtk++2 infighting. Mozilla is now gtk2 and will only support gtk2 themes. Some of the WM's and the corresponding themes they make use of are gtk1.2 based. If you have xfce4 installed can you boot to it and see if you get the same behaviour. Charles I got the same behaviour there. It looks like ~/.gtkrc* files are to blame. When I deleted all of them, I got a lot nicer Modern/Classical view (only Decrypt icon dead now) and now I am going to cease experimenting with GTK themes (I set in GNOME to Galaxy theme - it is GTK 1.2 for Gnome 2). Now I've got another question - how to import GPG keys to Mozilla 1.6? It seems like I've lost one during transition (now I have only THAWTE key and cannot choose anything else). It seems like EnigMail is the most troubling part of Mozilla-1.6 package for me... :( Wojciech Podgrni smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:52:58 +, Anne Wilson wrote On Wednesday 04 February 2004 13:32, robin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Increasingly, members of this list are being accused of sending virused emails. I know that some of you have no choice but to use windows for part of your life, but PLEASE, if you do, check that you are clean. Our addresses are being picked up from somewhere, and more and more clues point to someone who uses linux mailing lists. The warning I received this morning was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not necessary to use Windows to have your address appear in the From header of a virus - all that is necessary is for your email address to be in the address book of someone who has an infected computer. Same goes for spam - I've had mails ostensibly from myself offering the usual viagra, organ enlargement etc. Sir Robin Agreed, Robin, but I ask myself who would have an addressbook with the names of a number of people from a linux mailing list? It could be coincidence, but working on the principle that two is coincidence, three, just possibly, more than that - probably not From my experience, this virus isn't just scanning address books and flailing away. It's mixing and matching so if it finds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in an infected computer, it's going to fake [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mandrake.com. Given the odds (and a huge address book), sooner or later some of these composed addresses are going to start resulting in real addresses. At least that's how it appears to me, judging from all the failed attempts in my mail server logs. Besides, anyone using outlook with the 'copy all emails to addresse book' setting will quickly get a collection of linux mailing list addresses the first time they receive a forwarded email from a linux friend (like a tech tip, or a buy-sell note). Some people like it that way, other's don't even realize they're filling up their address book with strangers. So it's very easy for a non-linux person to load up their address book with linux mailing list addresses. The thing that bothers me most about this virus is: - Not the virus itself. It was quickly added to my filters, never to be seen again. - Not the faked addresses. They are rejected (NOT BOUNCED) by my mail server and never returned. No, the thing that's most annoying is the continual stream of bounce replies from mail servers that feel the best solution to an unknown user is to send it back (to the faked sender) in full with comments. This is not the correct way to deal with mail, particularily when it's virus initiated. Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
Scott said: From my experience, this virus isn't just scanning address books and flailing away. It's mixing and matching so if it finds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in an infected computer, it's going to fake [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mandrake.com. Given the odds (and a huge address book), sooner or later some of these composed addresses are going to start resulting in real addresses. At least that's how it appears to me, judging from all the failed attempts in my mail server logs. Yes, that's exactly what is happening I manage a couple of domains and I'm getting mail adressed to people who do not and have never existed. The thing that bothers me most about this virus is: - Not the virus itself. It was quickly added to my filters, never to be seen again. - Not the faked addresses. They are rejected (NOT BOUNCED) by my mail server and never returned. No, the thing that's most annoying is the continual stream of bounce replies from mail servers that feel the best solution to an unknown user is to send it back (to the faked sender) in full with comments. This is not the correct way to deal with mail, particularily when it's virus initiated. Exactly my sentiments, I'm getting so many bounce messages now it's getting beyond a joke. ___ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problem with connecting to the Internet
Dear All I have installed Mandrake 9.2 on my computer. The reason because I have done that was that I wanted a more reliable operating system than MS Windows, which has caused me a lot of troubles. However, I am quite sad because I cannot make my DSL modem (Alcatel Speedtouch Manta USB) connecting to the Internet. I have tried thousands of ways, the ones suggested in the howtos online. If there is somebody here that has been successful with connecting that modem to the Internet, I respectfully ask him/her for help. Thank you a lot in advance! Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Virus problems
The problem we have though is that if the person was daft enough to have opened up the email attachment and been infected, they won't have a clue about how to fix it, or even if they are infected. I can't believe a regular list user to be that naive. -Original Message- From: Lexx /Sigil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Virus problems Scott said: From my experience, this virus isn't just scanning address books and flailing away. It's mixing and matching so if it finds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in an infected computer, it's going to fake [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mandrake.com. Given the odds (and a huge address book), sooner or later some of these composed addresses are going to start resulting in real addresses. At least that's how it appears to me, judging from all the failed attempts in my mail server logs. Yes, that's exactly what is happening I manage a couple of domains and I'm getting mail adressed to people who do not and have never existed. The thing that bothers me most about this virus is: - Not the virus itself. It was quickly added to my filters, never to be seen again. - Not the faked addresses. They are rejected (NOT BOUNCED) by my mail server and never returned. No, the thing that's most annoying is the continual stream of bounce replies from mail servers that feel the best solution to an unknown user is to send it back (to the faked sender) in full with comments. This is not the correct way to deal with mail, particularily when it's virus initiated. Exactly my sentiments, I'm getting so many bounce messages now it's getting beyond a joke. ___ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:05:31 - Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: I can't believe a regular list user to be that naive. That's the point, it may not be a list member. Remember, 'six degrees of separation' ;-) -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 12:11:31 up 23:56, 5 users, load average: 0.31, 0.14, 0.06 +++ Linux 2.4.22-21mdk i686 +++ If those in charge of our society - politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television - can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.-- Howard Zinn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Virus problems
lol, that's what I meant, I can't believe that it is a regular list member. Tony. -Original Message- From: JoeHill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Virus problems On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:05:31 - Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: I can't believe a regular list user to be that naive. That's the point, it may not be a list member. Remember, 'six degrees of separation' ;-) -- JoeHill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org +++ 12:11:31 up 23:56, 5 users, load average: 0.31, 0.14, 0.06 +++ Linux 2.4.22-21mdk i686 +++ If those in charge of our society - politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television - can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.-- Howard Zinn -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Virus problems
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:05:31 -, Tony S. Sykes wrote The problem we have though is that if the person was daft enough to have opened up the email attachment and been infected, they won't have a clue about how to fix it, or even if they are infected. I can't believe a regular list user to be that naive. Well, you really can't fault the end user. It doesn't take a degree in computer literacy to switch the on button and send mail. Nor should it. Those days are gone and with good riddance. Eventually the software will become smart enough to keep up with daftest of users. Although, I don't think my parents will ever stop believing everything they read on the net... But the bounced viruses is not just an end user or an MS problem. This is a Linux problem as well. I haven't kept track, but most of the 'undeliverable' bounced emails I get from other mail servers are coming from other Linux mail servers (or at least non-MS servers). I myself would be one of those servers if I hadn't recently come to terms with the problem. It doesn't matter that this time it's the result of an MS virus. I've found that spammers are using this same technique more and more (which is what prompted me to change prior to this). It's far easier to get your mail server config wrong, than it is to get a working mail server up and running. After all, bouncing an unknown user doesn't seem like a bad thing, until you get 60 bounces from xyz.com claiming you sent them an email to an unknown user. I don't know what the solution is, but there's an awful lot of bandwidth going to waste on bounced email these days. and talk about bounced email ;) -Original Message- From: Lexx /Sigil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Virus problems Scott said: From my experience, this virus isn't just scanning address books and flailing away. It's mixing and matching so if it finds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in an infected computer, it's going to fake [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mandrake.com. Given the odds (and a huge address book), sooner or later some of these composed addresses are going to start resulting in real addresses. At least that's how it appears to me, judging from all the failed attempts in my mail server logs. Yes, that's exactly what is happening I manage a couple of domains and I'm getting mail adressed to people who do not and have never existed. The thing that bothers me most about this virus is: - Not the virus itself. It was quickly added to my filters, never to be seen again. - Not the faked addresses. They are rejected (NOT BOUNCED) by my mail server and never returned. No, the thing that's most annoying is the continual stream of bounce replies from mail servers that feel the best solution to an unknown user is to send it back (to the faked sender) in full with comments. This is not the correct way to deal with mail, particularily when it's virus initiated. Exactly my sentiments, I'm getting so many bounce messages now it's getting beyond a joke. Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whats happinging
On 2/4/2004 at 7:21 AM aronsmith wrote: Got it bookmarked thanks (I'm gonna have to get serious about security gonna get the separate firewall up in the next day or so (2 firewalls any reason to?.. not to? *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Aron; Using two firewalls usually causes problems with file sharing, etc., so I wouldn't bother with 2 firewalls if I were you. If you put up a firewall box in front of the server, remember to shut down the firewall ( Shorewall ) that's running on the server. As far as services that you can shut down are concerned, you'll need to send me a list of the services that are running on it now, and the services that you need. By the way, is this box being used as a server or workstation ? That answer can go a long way to helping us decide what to leave running and what to shut down. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU temperatures and cooling issues + memory
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 09:47 am, John Richard Smith wrote: The only thing about this heatsink that has me questioning it is the power of the retention spring clip itself. Compared to other makes and models I've fitted before, the retention clips are too easy to fit to the cpu. I'd question that also. Every heatsink I've fitted to an AMD needed the aid of a flat blade screw driver to force the remaining clip to engage. While making sure the heatsink is square with the die. The AMD pads on the cpu only aid in this after the HS/fan are fitted. Which is the reason oem's and manufacturers favor the pad. Less likely to cause damage the cpu during inept heatsink installation. Weaker retention clips can be used. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Disappearing Menu Icons
Hi All, I seem to be losing menu icons. I have been getting segmentation faults in KDE (3.1 under Mandrake 9.2). Could this be the cause? If I rerun the setup (repair) then they come back but will be lost rather quickly. Any ideas? Also, any ideas on what causes segmentation faults? My first guess is bad RAM, it's been a little flaky. Thanks! Travis Crook Visions Beyond Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 2.6: The Speed Demon
On Wednesday 04 Feb 2004 1:40 pm, JoeHill wrote: For those of you struggling to get 2.6 up and running, and those who are lukewarm on the subject, check out what you're missing (as am I): http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Feb/gee20040203023723.htm Can anyone help with a question on 2.6? I have ReiserFS on all my partitions. Half the reason for wanting 2.6 is the capability bits in the filesystems. If I install 2.6 on my spare partition will the 2.4 FS and the 2.6 FS be compatible, and will I have the capability bits when running in 2.6? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 12:41 pm, Littlefish Operator wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:05:31 -, Tony S. Sykes wrote Well, you really can't fault the end user. It doesn't take a degree in computer literacy to switch the on button and send mail. Nor should it. Those days are gone and with good riddance. Eventually the software will become smart enough to keep up with daftest of users. Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whats happinging
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 10:23, Lanman wrote: On 2/4/2004 at 7:21 AM aronsmith wrote: any reason to?.. not to? *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Aron; Using two firewalls usually causes problems with file sharing, etc., so I wouldn't bother with 2 firewalls if I were you. If you put up a firewall box in front of the server, remember to shut down the firewall ( Shorewall ) that's running on the server. As far as services that you can shut down are concerned, you'll need to send me a list of the services that are running on it now, and the services that you need. By the way, is this box being used as a server or workstation ? That answer can go a long way to helping us decide what to leave running and what to shut down. Lanman = The old box will just be used as a firewall the workstation will be a seperate box i had an old 500mhz compaq that I had stripped the am and drives out of so I bought 3 Nics at the surplus shop All 3Coms I have downloadd IPcop and with 128Mg Ram (probably overkill) should make a nice firewall Also want to be able to put my laptop on line also (old Dell 500 win XP ) Thinking kinda like this DSL | | oldbox(firewall) | hub | ---___|__ | | | (Workstation) laptop spare (slimserver? Do you think that would do it? thanks smitty __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing KDevelop 3
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 01:03, Charlie Mahan wrote: You did it right but you're looking for newer packages than you'll find on the 9.2 mirrors. So read this: http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-10/msg02567.php and good luck to ya! (-: Downloaded the rpm and did a rpm -Uvh the.rpm = loads of conflicts Crossed my fingers, closed my eyes and did a rpm -Uvh --force the.rpm and it worked :D Thanks again Charlie. Best regards Sren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
I haven´t been in Windows for a while and if i was i never logined to my this yahoo account that is dedicated to mailing list such as this (actually right now only this mailing list). The only email address i have in the address book is of this mailing list and it is not on the server but just on my PC. However i just received two emails about returned emails form me with virus attachments. I don´t know what can be understood from this. Regards, Ramin On February 4, 2004 04:36 am, Anne Wilson wrote: Increasingly, members of this list are being accused of sending virused emails. I know that some of you have no choice but to use windows for part of your life, but PLEASE, if you do, check that you are clean. Our addresses are being picked up from somewhere, and more and more clues point to someone who uses linux mailing lists. The warning I received this morning was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anne -- Linux user #310496 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing KDevelop 3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday 04 February 2004 12:00 pm, Søren Neigaard wrote: On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 01:03, Charlie Mahan wrote: You did it right but you're looking for newer packages than you'll find on the 9.2 mirrors. So read this: http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-10/msg02567.php and good luck to ya! (-: Downloaded the rpm and did a rpm -Uvh the.rpm = loads of conflicts Crossed my fingers, closed my eyes and did a rpm -Uvh --force the.rpm and it worked :D Thanks again Charlie. Best regards Søren You're very welcome. Are we havin' fun yet? g Warm regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586 kernel 2.4.25-0.pre7.2mdk 12:34:04 up 18:21, 1 user, load average: 0.98, 0.82, 0.90 Let the worthy citizens of Chicago get their liquor the best way they can. I'm sick of the job. It's a thankless one and full of grief. -- Al Capone -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAIUl7ZqvqlrLPr5YRAppJAJ9aFCxhfxuXXAqlcDI+BK77SZ+w+ACfdkHm gCr5HwsfrInTGGeyTLHd11I= =WM75 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 19:27, Ramin wrote: I haven´t been in Windows for a while and if i was i never logined to my this yahoo account that is dedicated to mailing list such as this (actually right now only this mailing list). The only email address i have in the address book is of this mailing list and it is not on the server but just on my PC. However i just received two emails about returned emails form me with virus attachments. I don´t know what can be understood from this. Regards, Ramin Ramin, quoted from the expert list conversation on this point: quote Scott said: From my experience, this virus isn't just scanning address books and flailing away. It's mixing and matching so if it finds [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in an infected computer, it's going to fake [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] mandrake.com. Given the odds (and a huge address book), sooner or later some of these composed addresses are going to start resulting in real addresses. At least that's how it appears to me, judging from all the failed attempts in my mail server logs. Yes, that's exactly what is happening I manage a couple of domains and I'm getting mail adressed to people who do not and have never existed. /quote Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whats happinging
On 2/4/2004 at 10:52 AM aronsmith wrote: Thinking kinda like this DSL | | oldbox(firewall) | hub | ---___|__ | | | (Workstation) laptop spare (slimserver? Do you think that would do it? thanks smitty *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Aron; IPCOP or Smoothwall 2.0 should be fine. I don't know if IPCOP allows you to do remote management of the firewall, but Smoothwall does. Unless you're planning on running a separate web-server, the third NIC isn't needed at all. 128MB ram isn't what I'd call overkill, but then I'm a RAM hog so I'd start at 256MB's and I wouldn't look back. I probably go through 50 or 60 GB's of ram each month, just to give you an idea of what I mean. Are you hosting any sites, domains, or email servers? If not then we can start shutting down services as soon as you want to. Make up a list of the services which are currently running on your PC and email it to me off-list. Otherwise, sounds like you're Good to Go ! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU temperatures and cooling issues + memory
On Wednesday 04 Feb 2004 3:47 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: That is so interesting Tom, I had wondered whether most of this attention to make and model would be mostly hype. I currently have an all ally evercool ND15-715CA it has a 70mm fan controlled by bios. I think the airflow seems good. No reason to think it is getting trapped. The only thing about this heatsink that has me questioning it is the power of the retention spring clip itself. Compared to other makes and models I've fitted before, the retention clips are too easy to fit to the cpu. No, I hear you say, so what. Well the heatsink , if you notice carefully, sits in situe on 4 small rubber grommits about 3mm each in diameter.So the heatsink has to be held really firmly against them to make the heatsink BED down flush onto the cpu. If insufficient pressure is exerted by the retention clip there might be a possibility of the heatsink not fitting flush onto the cpu. I know, the heatsink paste ought to take care of it but maybe not enough ? It's only a thought. I already have both the case sides off , don't make much difference though, about -1C is all I get overall on the case temperature. Case airflow is in at the front low down under the harddrives and out either through the PSU, or a vent in the rear of the case undet the PSU. Entirely conventional in layout. I have no means of removing the top. I don't know what else I can do without getting surgical . The computer sits on my bench beside me which means about as good a spot as I will get for general room airflow. So what I'm reading from your experience seems to suggest I ought to be getting better general temperatures than I am getting, but with the one possiblity of the strength of the retention clips , I cannot see what I'm doing differently from you and yet I would feel more comfortable if my cpu temps were held well withing the 40 to 48 range under all load conditions. Hmm. John John I agree with what Tom is saying. But a CPU that isn't overvolted or overclocked should be OK at an idle temperature of 48C. I would still suspect a PSU issue. Its worth checking by borrowing someone else's just to rule this out. Modern PC components draw massive amounts of current in surges. If your PSU lets the voltage drop slightly too much when this happens (ie not matching the ATX standard of -+5% tolerance) then you get system instability. Just my $0.02. Robert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is having LILO/GRUB on the MBR harmful to XP?
On Wednesday 04 Feb 2004 4:59 am, Guy Rouillier wrote: Robert, mind if I piggyback on this question? I have a new AMD64 laptop, and it came with XP Home (of course!) I want to put XP-64 as well as Mandrake 32-bit and 64-bit. Can lilo or grub handle copying files before starting to boot Windows versions? Here's the rub: all versions of Windows derived from NT have two critical startup files: ntldr and ntdetect.com. These are incompatible between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions, so I need the boot mechanism to copy in the right versions from backup directories before kicking off the boot process. System Commander does this, and I just learned the hard way that BootMagic (comes with Partition Magic) does *not* gr. Seeing as I have to start all over, I thought I'd try doing it with grub. Thanks. Greg, If I read your question right you want to quad boot your machine? That is an interesting idea :-) Might be difficult to manage booting into the 2 Windows partitions though. (Not sure really). I think you might have to move this question to the expert mailing list if you get stuck :-) It would be difficult for Lilo/Grub to see the windows files you refer to as the Windows partitions wouldn't be mounted by Linux at that point. Robert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XCDRoast goes belly up!
Ramin wrote: Have you tried the followings: 1- delete the .xcdroast directory from your home directory and run xcdroast set-up again? And if it does not help: 2- uninstall xcdroast and reinstall it. Hello again, sorry for the delay in responding. I think I've sorted it. It would appear that a somewhat careless general update on my part left me with an alpha version incompatible with the (also updated) mkisofs and cdrecord. I can't explain exactly how it happened - possibly I incorporated some cooker sites in my urpmi setup - a definite mistake given my limited knowledge, skills and patience. I took off everything and got hold of the earlier versions using rpmfind. Had to do it this way as urpmi seems to be broken. Anyway XCDroast is now reading and writing CDs again. Hurrah! John Richard Smith wrote: Did you run something by way of a configuration programme recently ? anyway, in a terminal, cat /etc/lilo.conf cat /etc/fstab cat /etc/modules.conf cdrecord -scanbus and report. It was the last command you listed that showed me I was then running an experimental version of cdrecord and this put me on the right track. Thanks for the advice folks -- Graham Watkins On the whole, I preferred cats to women because cats seldom if ever used the word relationship.(Kinky Friedman - Greenwich Killing Time) Registered Linux user number 265254 http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Get DJBDNS to compile
Hi I am trying to compile the DJBDNS (aka TinyDNS) package to try out. However I get some linking errors about lack of 'errno'. Isn't that in the standard gcc libraries to translate system call error numbers?? Maybe this package doesn't include the correct libraries for the GNU C compiler?? Barfs at the the linker stage when compiling the daemon-tools package which the main package is dependent on: == Linking ./src/* into ./compile... Compiling everything in ./compile... ./load envdir unix.a byte.a envdir.o(.text+0xd5): In function `main': : undefined reference to `errno' envdir.o(.text+0x1b3): In function `main': : undefined reference to `errno' envdir.o(.text+0x1cd): In function `main': : undefined reference to `errno' unix.a(openreadclose.o)(.text+0x3f): In function `openreadclose': : undefined reference to `errno' unix.a(pathexec_run.o)(.text+0xf2): In function `pathexec_run': : undefined reference to `errno' unix.a(pathexec_run.o)(.text+0x169): more undefined references to `errno' follow collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [envdir] Error 1 Copying commands into ./command... cp: cannot stat `compile/svscan': No such file or directory === I am just following the instructions to the letter and not trying to be clever :-) Any ideas? Maybe I misconfigured my compiled kernel or something? Cheers Robert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] k3b update to 0.11?
Greetings, I am wondering if any k3b users here have tried to upgrade to the latest release 0.11? I found a binary package for Mdk9.2 here: http://www.k3b.org/ but, when I try to install, urpmi tells me there is conflicting file in the package, libk3b1-0.9-10mdk. Now, the only libk3b1-0.11 package I can find is, libk3b1-0.11.1-3mdk.alpha.rpm, which is a cooker package. I know full well that it is taboo to use cooker stuff on a non-cooker installation, but, I will ask anyway. ;-) Is it OK to install this libk3b1-0.11 package? It looks to me like k3b is the only thing using this lib package. Urpmi tells me that it can be installed. Should I just leave well enough alone? Am I tempting fate and trying to break my system? Please advise. TIA for any help. Best regards to all. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 9.2~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CPU temperatures and cooling issues + memory
Robert Walker wrote: On Wednesday 04 Feb 2004 3:47 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: That is so interesting Tom, I had wondered whether most of this attention to make and model would be mostly hype. I currently have an all ally evercool ND15-715CA it has a 70mm fan controlled by bios. I think the airflow seems good. No reason to think it is getting trapped. The only thing about this heatsink that has me questioning it is the power of the retention spring clip itself. Compared to other makes and models I've fitted before, the retention clips are too easy to fit to the cpu. No, I hear you say, so what. Well the heatsink , if you notice carefully, sits in situe on 4 small rubber grommits about 3mm each in diameter.So the heatsink has to be held really firmly against them to make the heatsink BED down flush onto the cpu. If insufficient pressure is exerted by the retention clip there might be a possibility of the heatsink not fitting flush onto the cpu. I know, the heatsink paste ought to take care of it but maybe not enough ? It's only a thought. I already have both the case sides off , don't make much difference though, about -1C is all I get overall on the case temperature. Case airflow is in at the front low down under the harddrives and out either through the PSU, or a vent in the rear of the case undet the PSU. Entirely conventional in layout. I have no means of removing the top. I don't know what else I can do without getting surgical . The computer sits on my bench beside me which means about as good a spot as I will get for general room airflow. So what I'm reading from your experience seems to suggest I ought to be getting better general temperatures than I am getting, but with the one possiblity of the strength of the retention clips , I cannot see what I'm doing differently from you and yet I would feel more comfortable if my cpu temps were held well withing the 40 to 48 range under all load conditions. Hmm. John John I agree with what Tom is saying. But a CPU that isn't overvolted or overclocked should be OK at an idle temperature of 48C. I would still suspect a PSU issue. Its worth checking by borrowing someone else's just to rule this out. Modern PC components draw massive amounts of current in surges. If your PSU lets the voltage drop slightly too much when this happens (ie not matching the ATX standard of -+5% tolerance) then you get system instability. Just my $0.02. Robert I don't suppose there is a way of testing that in some way. Could I set up a test rig to record power surges in overload use, or something. to hell if it surges and siezes up. as long as I've some stats to analise and present a case, if only to myself. gkrellm does running voltages, but I find reading them near impossible. Sensors does one time reports I can read, but not running voltages. I don't mind condeming equipement, but I don't like, condeming without reason. I've got spare PSU's that's no problem, but what is there to say the replacement is not just as bad ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] k3b update to 0.11?
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 15:46:46 -0300 Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I just leave well enough alone? Am I tempting fate and trying to break my system? Please advise. If using a gui I, myself, prefer either x-cd-roast or eroaster. After having my fstab scrambled by k3b several releases ago I never touched it again. With that preamble out of the way, if you can wait until tomorrow I will rebuild for 9.2 and upload to my site k3b-0.11.1-4mdk, which will be actual mdk rpms and not the wanna-bes that is on the k3b site. Charles -- I'm pretending that we're all watching PHIL SILVERS instead of RICARDO MONTALBAN! - Mandrake Linux 10.0 on PurpleDragon 2.6.2-0.rc2.1.tmb.2mdkenterprise http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Whats happinging
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 19:52, aronsmith wrote: The old box will just be used as a firewall the workstation will be a seperate box i had an old 500mhz compaq that I had stripped the am and drives out of so I bought 3 Nics at the surplus shop All 3Coms I have downloadd IPcop and with 128Mg Ram (probably overkill) should make a nice firewall Also want to be able to put my laptop on line also (old Dell 500 win XP ) Thinking kinda like this DSL | | oldbox(firewall) | hub | ---___|__ | | | (Workstation) laptop spare (slimserver? Do you think that would do it? I've got a similar setup you're proposing here except that I'm using smoothwall and a P166 32M box. No big deal there's not that much difference between ipcop and smoothwall. I gather it was more a social matter than anything else that caused the fork. 128 m ram is nice, that way you will not need a HDwatch your logs though, they tend to grow. I installed on an old 300M HD and clean it out once a month, if I wait longer it's full. What might get you flustered is that you've 3 same nic's so it'll be hard to differentiate between them during installation. I solved it by using 3 very different ones for red, green and orange( a realtek, nec and 3com). I suppose if it really starts to get messy you could put each one in, one after the other and reboot/re-install every time to solve that, at the worst. Keep yer eyes on the mac adresses i.e. have them jotted down before you start installingthat'll help:) Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] kde3.2
Rather than wait for 3.2 rpms for M9.2, I thought I'd give konstruct a try. It worked well for me for koffice 1.3. However I want to be able to uninstall and return to my current config if I need/want to. According to the README after installation one has to issue: export QTDIR=~/kde3.2 export KDEDIRS=~/kde3.2 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/kde3.2/lib export PATH=~/kde3.2/bin:$PATH export KDEHOME=~/.kdetest to get 3.2 to start instead of 3.1. OK The output of env tells me only my current QTDIR. How do I findout what my current KDEDIRS and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are? TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update?
Hoyt; Does Lookout Express make this signature thing difficult? The same quote seems to appear at the top of most of your emails. Glenn On Tuesday 03 February 2004 20:42, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 18:12 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update? On Tuesday 03 February 2004 09:49 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip I'm using the cpu moniter applet and the modem lights applet to monitor things. The cpu is very inactive hardly works, except when installing a program then it fills the entire monitor. The moden lights indicates that the server is responding and sending information but there are no messages to advise me what is going on (I dont know what message 109 means or 180 17 or etc.). The major problem is that either some program times out and decides that it isnt going to get the rpm and a message appears that tells me that install cant read the sig. Cant open the rpm, which hasnt been downloaded because it quit before downloading. So I click continue and install and maybe it will download the rpm, maybe not but it finally does. I suspect the server is very busy but nothing tells me that it is, why doesnt the program switch servers if it is busy. This is possible because there are a lot of servers around the world. As you can tell I am flustered. Regards; Hoyt Hoyt: About monitoring your modem: If you are using dialup, and if you connect via kppp, then you can see a graphical display of line activity by clicking on the kppp ditty in the taskbar and selecting Details. (Not the complete authoritative response you need, I know, but it does beat hell out of staring at those lights.) -- cmg Amen! I'm done now but I discovered this on the last 9 updates. Thanks I need all the suggestions. Hoyt -- 17:47:22 up 3 days, 7:48, running Mandrake Linux 9.2, kernel 2.4.22-26mdk on an Intel P4 1.8 Registered Linux user #324360 You are not a fool just because you have done something foolish -- only if the folly of it escapes you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde3.2
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 02:20 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote: The output of env tells me only my current QTDIR. How do I findout what my current KDEDIRS and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are? If it is not in the output of your env, it isn't set at all and the program default will rule. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 12:12 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:05:31 - Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: I can't believe a regular list user to be that naive. That's the point, it may not be a list member. Remember, 'six degrees of separation' ;-) If I understand this correctly, you're saying that this mess isn't Bill Gates' fault, Kevin Bacon is the real culprit. Chris Fox is starting to get to you, isn't he? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] k3b update to 0.11?
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 01:46 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I am wondering if any k3b users here have tried to upgrade to the latest release 0.11? I have. But I am using 9.1 so I didn't have any dependency problems moving up to .11. I found a binary package for Mdk9.2 here: http://www.k3b.org/ but, when I try to install, urpmi tells me there is conflicting file in the package, libk3b1-0.9-10mdk. You might want to try the 9.1 package at http://nzlinux.orcon.net.nz/rpms/k3b-0.11.1-1.i586.rpm and see if it works better for you. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde3.2
OK, but how would I unset the changes I have to make to get kde3.2 to work (if I want to go back to 3.1 or change to any rpms that might get released). P On Thursday 05 February 2004 01:01 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2004 02:20 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote: The output of env tells me only my current QTDIR. How do I findout what my current KDEDIRS and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are? If it is not in the output of your env, it isn't set at all and the program default will rule. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde3.2
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 04:05 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote: OK, but how would I unset the changes I have to make to get kde3.2 to work (if I want to go back to 3.1 or change to any rpms that might get released). P On Thursday 05 February 2004 01:01 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2004 02:20 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote: The output of env tells me only my current QTDIR. How do I findout what my current KDEDIRS and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are? If it is not in the output of your env, it isn't set at all and the program default will rule. I would create a shell script that started each environment that includes the export statements to load the correct environment variables. Call the first one kde32 #//bin/bash #Script to start KDE3.2 export KDEDIR=~/.kde32 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=blahblah startkde and one for 3.1.3 #//bin/bash #Script to start KDE3.1.3 export KDEDIR=~/.kde export LD_LIBRARY_PATH= startkde Obviously, expand and modify as appropriate to your circumstance. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2004 12:12 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:05:31 - Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: I can't believe a regular list user to be that naive. That's the point, it may not be a list member. Remember, 'six degrees of separation' ;-) If I understand this correctly, you're saying that this mess isn't Bill Gates' fault, Kevin Bacon is the real culprit. Chris Fox is starting to get to you, isn't he? -- cmg Linux variant of MyDoom http://www.livejournal.com/users/solri/186769.html (just kidding) Sir Robin -- Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. - Winston Churchill Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cds in software manager
Hi Everyone, I recently did another LM 9.1 install but when I went to MCC software installer, there was no cd1, cd2, cd3 in the sources. I'm embarassed to say I don't know how to add them. Ideas? Thanks, Bill W. longtime lurker Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 09:18 pm, robin wrote: Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2004 12:12 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:05:31 - Tony S. Sykes disseminated the following: I can't believe a regular list user to be that naive. That's the point, it may not be a list member. Remember, 'six degrees of separation' ;-) If I understand this correctly, you're saying that this mess isn't Bill Gates' fault, Kevin Bacon is the real culprit. Chris Fox is starting to get to you, isn't he? -- cmg Linux variant of MyDoom http://www.livejournal.com/users/solri/186769.html (just kidding) Sir Robin Now that's funny. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Installing 9.2 need Buslogic.o
List, I am trying to install 9.2 on my old box, set it up for my mom. This machine has a buslogic BT930 scsi controller with a huge 2.9 gig Seagate drive and a teac cd516s cdrom drive hooked up to it. I have a Maxtor 12gig drive hooked up as well. That is where my linux install will go. When the system boots, the floppy using two different images cdrom.img and hd_cdrom.img neither shows the Buslogic.o driver that I need. Where can I get that file? I linux googled and searched the archives but to no avail. Thanks, Terry -- I used to have a signature, but I lost it. My new one is: IIRC CRS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cdrecord NOT! revisited...oops
Well here I am replying to my own posts. (remember as long as I don't ask myself questions and then answer them I'm.. ok right!) I apparently resolved the issue, but re-examining the man page to cdrecord and choosing the -ignsize option. I burned, I see files, I happy!!! Cheers to all, Terry On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 10:09, Terence Golightly wrote: On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 08:14, Terence Golightly wrote: List, Below is an alias of the command I used in an attempt to burn the mdk 9.2 install cd iso. When I used mkcd on previous attempts to burn an iso ooops that should read cdrecord or biso alias. Sorry to discs of questionable quality I got the error at the bottom as well. Question: What caused the failure? If it needs to use overburn, I looked at the cdrecord man page, but I didn't see a note on overburn; is that part of the driveropts or a separate 'dashed' CL parameter? Or.. Is it somehow related to the buffer being full 10704 times? Thanks, Terry My new sig: IIRC CRS alias biso='cdrecord -v -eject driveropts=burnfree speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -dao' [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ biso Mandrake92-cd1-inst.i586.iso Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' Driveropts: 'burnfree' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'CD-R PX-W1210A' Revision : '1.01' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1190112 = 1162 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 651 MB Total size: 748 MB (74:10.80) = 333810 sectors Lout start: 749 MB (74:12/60) = 333810 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3) ATIP start of lead in: -11634 (97:26/66) ATIP start of lead out: 359846 (79:59/71) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 3 Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation Blocks total: 359846 Blocks current: 359846 Blocks remaining: 26036 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is OFF. Turning BURN-Free on Performing OPC... Sending CUE sheet... Writing pregap for track 1 at -150 Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 651 of 651 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 94%] 4.1x. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 683642880/683642880 (333810 sectors). Writing time: 1176.565s Average write speed 3.8x. Min drive buffer fill was 94% Fixating... Fixating time:2.803s cdrecord: fifo had 10769 puts and 10769 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 10704 times full, min fill was 98%. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ ls -la /mnt/cdrom total 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ mkcd --checkdisc /dev/scd0 9.2-download.md5sums.asc mkcd: mkcd: Checking the disc FAILED (computed d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e expected ) ERROR: Checking the disc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISOs]$ __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- I used to have a signature, but I lost it. My new one is: IIRC CRS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Getting the last 10 changed files
Dear All I would like to get a list of the last 10 changed files on my computer. Is that possible? If so, how? Thank you a lot in advance! Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Printing to print server not working
I am trying to print to my d-link Router/printserver and can't see to get it to work. I am running MD9.2 and using a D-Ling DI-713P the P means that it is a router with a printer port. Under windows I just set up a port and put in the router base address and print to it. No problem. I tried the CUPS setup and it goes all the way through. I put in that it was an LPR printer and gave it the ip address but don't have a quename to give it. I tried MCC add a printer but it can't see the printer so it won't let me go farther. Also read a lot of man pages about lpr and print and other stuff like that. Tried those things to no avail. If anyone can give me a hint on what to do I would appreciate it. Have done the google think and don't seem to find anything. The d-link sit was not much help either although I did fine one thing where it said to put in the ip address and lp so I'm not that lp was the que name ot what. I have switched back to my doze system so I can't test that right now. Will tomorrow so I thought I would just drop this out to you helpfull people and see what other ideas people have. By the way the printer I have attached to it is a HP Laserjet IIIP. TIA Steve Linux user number 344404 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] unable to ping to/from my windoze box]
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 04:31 am, Merlin Zener wrote: So now I'm back to the original problem. I was able to edit my /etc/hosts file so it now reads: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 192.168.0.10laptop.workgroup laptop 192.168.0.20 cel2gthai.workgroup cel2gthai But the problem is still the same as before: If I set the NIC to auto in DrakeConnect it hangs on bringing up ETH0 when booting, and I can't ping to/from the laptop. If I set it to 192.168.0.20, then the machines can ping, but the internet doesn't work. And I haven't even got to the stage of getting Samba sorted yet... -- Merlin Zener eth0 hanging usually means your machine is looking for a DNS server on a LAN. You have dial-up--right? Give the machine a static IP. The problem with no internet (you actually can dial-out and connect but can get no farther than that--correct?), would be with your /etc/resolv.conf You need something like this as the only line in /etc/resolv.conf search workgroup nameofyourisp.com local For good measure, your /etc/sysconfig/networkshould look something like this, and nothing else, at least for now: HOSTNAME=cel2gthai .workgroup NETWORKING=yes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cds in software manager
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 10:06 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi Everyone, I recently did another LM 9.1 install but when I went to MCC software installer, there was no cd1, cd2, cd3 in the sources. I'm embarassed to say I don't know how to add them. Ideas? As root at the command line, type 'urpmi.addmedia --distrib /mnt/cdrom' after placing cd1 in the drive. This will add all 3 cd's to your sources in one fell swoop. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde 3.2
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 11:48 pm, anton wrote: Hi all, Are there going to be any brave souls that attempt some rpms of 3.2 for mdk 9.2, or will we have to wait for 10? Okay, the cooker SRPM for QT built cleanly on my 9.2 box. This is the first step to getting this done. I will move on, but I cannot promise that it will work out in the end. If (a big if) I get them all built, I still don't have a place to host them though. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cds in software manager
Hi Greg, Many thanks. I had to add a little bit to the command...from the help file. The command that finally worked for me was... urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom For some reason it demanded the 'removable://' but you definitely pointed the way. Thanks again, Bill W. On Wednesday 04 February 2004 08:04 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2004 10:06 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi Everyone, I recently did another LM 9.1 install but when I went to MCC software installer, there was no cd1, cd2, cd3 in the sources. I'm embarassed to say I don't know how to add them. Ideas? As root at the command line, type 'urpmi.addmedia --distrib /mnt/cdrom' after placing cd1 in the drive. This will add all 3 cd's to your sources in one fell swoop. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cds in software manager
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 11:41 pm, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi Greg, Many thanks. I had to add a little bit to the command...from the help file. The command that finally worked for me was... urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom For some reason it demanded the 'removable://' but you definitely pointed the way. Oops, sorry. I knew that, but my fingers were having trouble keeping up with my brain. Glad you found the answer though. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting the last 10 changed files
On 02/05/2004 04:11 AM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I would like to get a list of the last 10 changed files on my computer. Is that possible? If so, how? Thank you a lot in advance! That would be a very slow process, I think: cd / ls -lRt | head -n 10 But if you mean to do this on your home dir, that might not take too long. Another Paul -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? http://www.nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Thunderbird 0.5a/20031217 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] hdlist.cz
Hi, Can anyone tell me what this file is known as. I.e, what would Cooker gurus (Sir Charles, etc) say that they had just updated... Cheers Anton -=-=- ... Once ... in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew, and we were forced to live on nothing but food and water for days. -- W. C. Fields, My Little Chickadee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
