Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:34:36 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Drouhard's post about the GTK2 port of Claws has lead me to a more fundamental question. Has anyone running 9.2 successfully updated their libgtk and all associated libs to 2.4, and if so how? And no, I'm not installing 10.0 for the time being. That wouldn't do it anyway. 10.0 is still 2.2, you need 10.1 to get 2.4. God knows when Mandrake will get around to that for AMD64, so I've been playing around with Gentoo. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re-starting from Linux to MS Windows
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:20:24 +0100 Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, I do need to go to MS Windows, whenever I need to establish, from home, a VPN connection to my work's network. (I have already tried pptp client, under Linux, but with no luck.) Paul, if this is why you are trying to get into Windows, I may be able to help. I have figured out to get Mandrake to VPN into a Microsoft VPN Server, which my employer also uses. Under 9.2 this was trivial. Under 10.0, Mandrake screwed up the packaging. They changed the kernel PPP and MPPE components to those needed by PPP 2.4.2, which is good, but then they included PPP 2.4.1, which is not compatible. If you'd like to get this working, I'd be willing to assist. You'll need to download PPP 2.4.2 and the corresponding PPTP from the pptpclient site. Hopefully you are not running AMD64 (as I am) as that gets even more involved due to a bug in the PPP code that needs to be fixed in both the kernel and in PPP. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re-starting from Linux to MS Windows
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:32:16 +0100 Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guy Rouillier wrote: Unfortunately, I do need to go to MS Windows, whenever I need to establish, from home, a VPN connection to my work's network. (I have already tried pptp client, under Linux, but with no luck.) Paul, if this is why you are trying to get into Windows, I may be able to help. I have figured out to get Mandrake to VPN into a Microsoft VPN Server, which my employer also uses. Under 9.2 this was trivial. Under 10.0, Mandrake screwed up the packaging. They changed the kernel PPP and MPPE components to those needed by PPP 2.4.2, which is good, but then they included PPP 2.4.1, which is not compatible. If you'd like to get this working, I'd be willing to assist. You'll need to download PPP 2.4.2 and the corresponding PPTP from the pptpclient site. Hopefully you are not running AMD64 (as I am) as that gets even more involved due to a bug in the PPP code that needs to be fixed in both the kernel and in PPP. You are very kind, Guy. Thanks. In fact, pptp client works for me up to a certain point: there is problem with the authentication of my username. From the debug: sent [CHAP Response id=0x0 9583b7807730dda2bd09ead7f8cb946e51f6dd93f4cdfa9ba20b 77a91461689ff0cda01c60fcd5bc00, name = unlpsmith] rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x3 9\\003\3777615\000\315t\000\000\003\3777642] LCP terminated by peer (9^CM-^M^@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@^CM-) My username is unl\psmith (and yes, the slash belongs to my username). Yes, this looks very familiar, I'm 99% sure that is how far I got also using the ppp and pptp that Mandrake included with 10.0. If you choose to pursue this (which I would suggest, because you have all the tools you need to VPN into work, including remote desktop if you use that, so it's a waste of time to reboot to Windows if this is the only reason you are doing so), you will need to download ppp 2.4.2 and the corresponding pptp. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Installing WinXP 64 replaced grub MBR
Ack, trying again, this message was returned to me because the subject Get grub mbr back after Windows XP Install was interpreted as a sympa request. I installed the new XP64 beta on my eMachines AMD64 laptop. It reclaimed the MBR from grub. How can I get the grub MBR back on without doing a complete reinstall? Can I start up the install CD, drop to a command prompt, and run grub-install? The Mandrake version that has the grub I need is 32-bit Mandrake 9.2. Thanks. BTW, this laptop has no floppy drive, so I can't boot from that. I have another computer, so I could burn a bootable CD. I think XP takes a backup of the boot sector; perhaps I could just use dd from a command line from the 9.2 install CD? -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing WinXP 64 replaced grub MBR
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:01:47 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guy; Boot from the install CD, press F1 when you see the option, and at the command prompt, type rescue. You'll see a new menu with an option to restore Lilo. It'll take about 2 seconds. Exit the menu with the reboot option and remove the CD from the drive. That should fix things nicely. Lanman and Hoyt, thanks for the pointers, Linux is back. I went the rescue root, which installed lilo. After booting up Linux, I tried grub-install /dev/hda, but it gave me some message like unable to detect BIOS drive for /dev/hda7. /dev/hda7 is where my 9.2 Linux is installed. So I started up the GUI and did it through the Mandrake control center. That reset my menu.lst to a default, but fortunately I was smart enough to back up my real one. Any idea what the GUI is doing differently from grub-install? -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring CD-ROM for both gnome-toaster and Totem
On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 23:39:17 -0400 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2004 11:14 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: In order to use gnome-toaster to burn CDs, I appear to need hdc=ide-scsi in my kernel parms, and then I specify /dev/scd0 as the recording device. I tried without this, setting the device to /dev/cdrom, and gnome-toaster just locked up during power calibration. But with that parm set, I can't use Totem to listen to music CDs. I have a laptop, and Totem is the only thing that has worked for listening to CDs. When I try to start up Totem with hdc=ide-scsi set, Totem crashes with a signal 11 (segfault). This is with Mandrake 10.0 AMD64. The hdc=ide-scsi parameter is ignored on 10.0 even if you include it, but it apparently causes instability in the disk i/o. Can you use a cd burning app other than gnome-toaster like e-roaster or k3b?-- Greg, thank you for the reply. I just spent some (okay, a lot) of time trying eroaster and xcdroast (in addition to gnome-toaster). None of them will recognize the CD recorder if I do not have the hdc=ide-scsi kernel param set. With it set, all 3 recognize the recorder. However, eroaster fails immediately when I try to record - gives me three PyXXX errors that I didn't bother to write down. xcdroast writes okay but then has a heckuva time fixating. Takes a very long time, like 25 seconds, and then leaves the CD recorder in some weird state, seems like it is only partially closed. I tried to do an md5sum and got a read error. Burned a second CD, same result - exact same (bad) md5sum. So I fired up gnome-toaster, and it was giving me power calibration errors. So I rebooted, and this time I could record the CD in gnome-toaster. It fixates in a short time, about 3 seconds. And the md5sum is good. Here's a kicker: the two CDs I burned with xcdroast that gave me a bad md5sum and now giving me good md5sums! Wasted two CDRs - drat. So my results are that with hdc=ide-scsi set, gnome-toaster seems to give the best results. xcdroast apparently works, but leaves the CD writer in some messed up condition. And eroaster doesn't work at all. BTW, gnome-toaster is using cdao - maybe that is why it works. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Configuring CD-ROM for both gnome-toaster and Totem
In order to use gnome-toaster to burn CDs, I appear to need hdc=ide-scsi in my kernel parms, and then I specify /dev/scd0 as the recording device. I tried without this, setting the device to /dev/cdrom, and gnome-toaster just locked up during power calibration. But with that parm set, I can't use Totem to listen to music CDs. I have a laptop, and Totem is the only thing that has worked for listening to CDs. When I try to start up Totem with hdc=ide-scsi set, Totem crashes with a signal 11 (segfault). This is with Mandrake 10.0 AMD64. Can I configure this somehow so that I can use both gnome-toaster and Totem? Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] VPN client
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 21:51:19 +0100 Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guy Rouillier wrote: I am looking for a client. easy to configure, for VPN connections with MS Windows servers. Any ideas? I've had luck with PPTP Client over PPP connecting to an MS VPN server my employer uses. You can find details here: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/. There is a GUI available to help configure a connection. You don't mention what version of Mandrake you are running. If 10.0, be aware that Mandrake (and other distros) messed up their packaging of PPP. They are still including ppp 2.4.1, but the kernel code is only compatible with 2.4.2. So forget the Mandrake packages and download a matching set from the referenced site. Thanks, Guy. I have tried to install it on my computer (running Mandrake 10 with Kernel 2.6.7-2mdk), but I get the message below. Any ideas? Paul -- installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ppp-2.4.2-6mdk.i586.rpm pptp-linux-1.5.0-1.i386.rpm Preparing... ## 1:ppp ## 2:pptp-linux ## error reading information on service /etc/init.d/pptp: No such file or directory error: %post(pptp-linux-1.5.0-1) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 Where did you get these from? The mirrors are still distributing ppp-2.4.1. It appears you found a Mandrake build of 2.4.2, but you don't have a matching Mandrake build of pptp. I see on the pptpclient site that pptp 1.5.0 seems to correspond to ppp 2.4.3. I got a matching set from pptpclient and compiled them myself. Does the site where you found your Mandrake build of 2.4.2 also have a Mandrake RPM for pptp 1.4.0? -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] VPN client
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 21:54:56 +1000 Stephen Kühn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 21:30, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All I am looking for a client. easy to configure, for VPN connections with MS Windows servers. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paul Actually - I prefer VNC to VPN; although, if you're keen on VPN you should check out Sourceforge... I don't see how VNC is going to help. If his employer has a firewall, he is going to have to establish a VPN connection first before he can use VNC. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] VPN client
On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 12:30:46 +0100 Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All I am looking for a client. easy to configure, for VPN connections with MS Windows servers. Any ideas? I've had luck with PPTP Client over PPP connecting to an MS VPN server my employer uses. You can find details here: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/. There is a GUI available to help configure a connection. You don't mention what version of Mandrake you are running. If 10.0, be aware that Mandrake (and other distros) messed up their packaging of PPP. They are still including ppp 2.4.1, but the kernel code is only compatible with 2.4.2. So forget the Mandrake packages and download a matching set from the referenced site. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] VPN client
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 23:12:59 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 22:37:44 -0400 Guy Rouillier disseminated the following: Actually - I prefer VNC to VPN; although, if you're keen on VPN you should check out Sourceforge... I don't see how VNC is going to help. If his employer has a firewall, he is going to have to establish a VPN connection first before he can use VNC. Couldn't you just open the appropriate port on the firewall for the VNC connection (the same as you would do with a VPN) and forward it to the appropriate machine which has access to the shared dirs, etc.? I suppose that would be possible. But if the employer has a VPN, they obviously want their employees to use that, so probably wouldn't be interested in punching holes in their firewalls. If they were, there would be no need for a VPN. I still agree the VPN sol'n is the best though. -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 23:09:52 up 18 days, 15:24, 6 users, load average: 0.10, 0.04, 0.00 +++ One of the most dangerous errors of our time is the belief that human beings are uniquely violent animals, barely restrained from committing atrocities on each other by the constraints of ethics, religion, and the state. -- Eric S. Raymond -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Grub
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:26:32 -0400 Sohail Mamdani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, My primary OS is Fedora Core 2, which I installed on my laptop using the following partitioning scheme. /dev/hda1 : /boot /dev/hda2: / (root partition) /dev/hda3: swap. I just installed Mandrake 10.0 on some free space that I had (about 10 gb, I think) and during the installation, I told the installer to User Free Space, which it appears to have done, creating a new partition called /dev/hda5. I am able to mount this using the mount command within Fedora and see the various files installed. However, I have no idea how to configure Grub so that I can actually boot from this partition. During the install process, I told the installer not to install any bootloader, hoping that I could figure out how to add that Mandrake install to grub's config file. Does anyone have any idea how I can boot from that Mandrake partition? I've included the output from my mount command below: This is actually pretty easy, though it would have been a little easier if you had let Mandrake install a boot loader. Boot up FC2, then as root, go to /boot/grub. You need to edit a file called menu.lst to add an entry for Mandrake. On my AMD64 laptop, I have grub installed on a 32-bit version of Mandrake, then in the menu.lst for that, I have an entry for Mandrake AMD64. Here is how my entry looks for the latter: title linux10 kernel (hd0,7)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.3-9mdk root=/dev/hda8 noapic devfs=mount acpi=off resume=/dev/hda10 splash=silent vga=788 initrd (hd0,7)/boot/initrd-2.6.3-9mdk.img What you need to find, in your *Mandrake* boot directory, are the names of your vmlinuz and initrd files. You also need to figure out the proper partition, remembering that they numbered from zero. For example, notice in my entry that /dev/hda8 is partition hd0,7. Hope this helps. Next time, let it install a boot loader, but tell it to load it in the boot partition, *NOT* the MBR. Then you can simply copy and paste the appropriate entry from the grub/menu.lst file for Mandrake directly into the grub/menu.lst file for FC2. /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /sys type sysfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) /dev/hda5 on /mnt/mandrake type ext3 (rw) sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) Thanks, Sohail Mamdani -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] TV Card recommendation
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:54:50 -0600 Scott Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stay away from ATI all-in-wonder cards (as I've learned). Darn, I was hoping to get one of those for the next computer I build. No chance of that working under Mandrake, eh? Thanks for the heads up. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] PPTP in LM 10
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:49:31 +0500 KLG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Friends, I want to know if anybody has installed PPTP in Mandrake Linux 10. I would be grateful for any help. Regards KL Client or server? If the former, I'm running it on 10.0 for AMD64. Required a kernel and ppp fix that should not affect 32-bit platforms. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Programming Technique
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:41:36 +0300 EE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of things that I have been looking for some time is general programming tutorial-Coding techniques i.e how to arrange code, naming convention, code segmenting, etc. Here is a link the GNU coding standards: http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards.html Until now I did not succeed. Now, after I switched to Linux, I thought may be the Linux gurus might help me finding such tutorial or book? Anybody? -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] amd64 iso???
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:21:12 +0100 (BST) Alastair Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Call me ignorant, but doesn't the ISO distro automatically detect which arch you have? No, AMD64 is an entirely different set of CDs. Every package is recompiled for 64-bit AMD64 instruction set. To the original poster, don't know about the club, but the RC1-level RPMs and iso's can be found at the normal mirror sites. pair, raven and warwick have them (amongst others, but those are the ones I use.) -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] diff/patch usage help
I'm trying to prepare a patch to submit to the kernel PPP people. I'm having trouble figuring out how to generate this properly. As a test, I created two files abc and def, with contents the same as the file names. If I generate a diff using this command: diff -u abc def abc.diff I end up with this diff output: --- abc 2004-06-13 00:22:41.825421456 -0400 +++ def 2004-06-12 00:15:52.0 -0400 @@ -1 +1 @@ -abc +def Running patch abc.diff patches the file abc without a problem, as expected. However, if I now create two subdirectories called from and to, each containing a file called aaa (with different contents) and run diff -u from to sub.diff I end up with this: --- from/aaa2004-06-13 00:27:54.349910512 -0400 +++ to/aaa 2004-06-13 00:28:15.889635976 -0400 @@ -1 +1 @@ -abc +def Now running patch produces this: patch -u -p0 sub.diff patching file to/aaa Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] The diff file looks identical to the one generated for two files in the same directory, but patch is reporting that it is trying to patch the to file instead of the from file. I've googled and looked for mailing lists to no avail. Can someone explain what I've done incorrectly to confuse patch, and how I'm supposed to do this? Thanks much. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] USB Flashdrive
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:54:48 +0300 OOzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a ScanDisk Cruzer mini 256MB USB flash drive. How can I install/mount it. On 10.0, when I put a memory card in a card reader, Mandrake automatically mounts if for me - I don't have to do anything. Check /mnt/removable - that seems to be the default location. Thx -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] ppp/mppe and pptp in 10.0
Under 9.2 (both 32-bit and AMD64 versions), I was able to VPN into a Microsoft server at work using pppd in conjunction with pptp-linux and mppe. Unfortunately, I am not able to get this same combination working under AMD64 10.0 RC1 - haven't tried 10.0 32-bit yet. Has anyone gotten this combination to work in 10.0? I'm suspecting a packaging inconsistency. From what I am able to understand from the pptp-client site, the mppe that is included with 10.0 appears to be compatible with ppp 2.4.2. However, 10.0 is still including 2.4.1. Appreciate any suggestions on getting this to work. Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] recommended way of installing Firefox/Thunderbird?
On Thu, 27 May 2004 11:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Brian Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do those mean -- GTK, GTK2 + XFT? GTK = GIMP Tool Kit. Gnome is written using GTK, as are apps that run on Gnome. XFT: http://www.xfree86.org/current/fonts1.html#2 XFree86 includes two font systems: the core X11 fonts system, which is present in all implementations of X11, and the Xft fonts system, which is not currently distributed with implementations of X11 that are not based on XFree86 but will hopefully be included by them in the future Xft was designed from the start to provide good support for scalable fonts, and do so efficiently. Unlike the core fonts system, it supports features such as anti-aliasing and sub-pixel rasterisation. Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Thu, 27 May 2004 19:08:56 +0100 Mike Coppins wrote: Which build should I use, the GTK or GTK2 + XFT? I use XFT. If you explicitly chose not to install XFT, then use the other one, but most people have it. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player
On Fri, 21 May 2004 08:26:47 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably need an audio cable. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html Derek, thanks for the reply, but I doubt that is it. If you reread my original message, I do here the CD if I use the Totem media player. Only when I try CD Player (gnome) or xmms do I not hear anything. The fact that it works with Totem means the hardware is okay. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player
I've installed 10.0 RC1 AMD64 on my eMachines laptop. Most things are working well. However, I can't figure out how to get sound out of the CD player (gnome.) Linux is using the ALSA sound system. If I run the Totem media player, I do hear sound, and external speakers hooked up to the headphone jack work fine also. I also hear system sounds fine. But neither CD Player nor xmms (with alsa plug-in selected or output) produce any sound (and yes, the CD is playing - I can see the light flickering and the progress bars are moving in both players.) Any ideas how to get this to work? Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] grub error 2: bad file or directory type
This one is driving me batty. I have an AMD64 laptop, and I have 3 different versions of Mandrake installed so I can try out the 64-bit version, plus one 9.2 32-bit that I can fall back on. I started out with 9.2 32-bit and installed grub into the MBR for that. I then installed 9.2 64-bit and 10.0 64-bit into other partitions, telling the installer to put grub into that partition instead of the MBR. Then I just copied the appropriate lines out of boot/grub/menu.lst from each of those 64-bit installations into the menu.lst for the 32-bit install. I was able to successfully boot all three. But of course I couldn't leave well enough alone. Mandrake said they weren't going to support my eMachines laptop, which requires some custom tweaks. So I figured I'd give fedora64 core2 a try, and reformatted my Mandrake 10.0 64-bit partition. Did the same trick of copying lines from fedora menu.lst into Mandrake 32-bit menu.lst, everything worked. Didn't like fedora (really gotten used to Mandrake, and like it.) So I wanted to put 10.0 back into that partition and see if I could tweak the kernel myself for the eMachines. Finally, my problem: I've now installed 10.0 64-bit twice (using same hard-drive install files from the first successful install.) Install finishes fine. But each time I try to boot, it tells me: Error 2. Bad file or directory type I can't find a grub messages file that informs me what it can't find. I searched google and found some hits but none really helped. I'm out of ideas. I'm baffled how reinstalling the exact same files as the first time now produces a non-bootable system. I can still get into 9.2 32-bit and 9.2 64-bit. Here is what my working 9.2 64-bit grub entry looks like: title linux64-nonfb kernel (hd0,8)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda9 noapic devfs=mount acpi=off resume=/dev/hda10 initrd (hd0,8)/boot/initrd.img (kernel line wrapped.) The one that doesn't work looks exactly the same but with different partition numbers. Appreciate all suggestions to get this working again. Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 09:35:12 -0400 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm...you wouldn't by any chance have been on this list before would ya? With a different name? No, sir, I've never used an alias anywhere, on any mailing list or forum I participate in. I take my hits standing up gr. I have been on this list for several years. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:20:02 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you've spent an equal amount of time 'reinstalling Linux releases and upgrading packages' compared to Windows, you are doing something seriously wrong Have you been able to do version upgrades (e.g., 9.2 to 10) and everything continue to work properly? To be honest, I had a great deal of trouble several years ago and haven't tried recently - I just format and install the new version clean. I have seen several posts here recently that claim that is still an issue. That is what I have found time consuming. Not too bad since typically I only install development tools. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:03:21 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 14:58, Guy Rouillier wrote: Hmm, try same with ctrl-ins, shift-ins, again nothing. So which are the clipboard keys? Middle-mouse-click I prefer using a keyboard. So what are the keyboard equivalents? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Mike: The Fourth Dimension is a shambles? Bernie: Nobody ever empties the ashtrays. People are SO inconsiderate. -- Gary Trudeau, Doonesbury -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Checksumming CDs
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:20:10 +1200 John Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone remind me ? I need to compute the md5sum of a cd before I duplicate it If you are doing this from Linux, then dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2k | md5um If you want to validate an .iso file before burning it, then substitute the file name for /dev/cdrom. Thx John -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 19:54:41 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 17 April 2004 19:36, Guy Rouillier wrote: I work with some Unix/Linux diehards. When I asked one for help with my digital camera under LInux, he sheepishly admitted that he uses Windows at home, simply because of device support. Now there he has to be joking. Nothing is simpler than a usb digital camera in linux, and I've just had to sort out a mess caused by windows software for a digital camera. He has a high end camera, 6 Mp with all the fancy features. The software for it under Windows does all sorts of fancy stuff I can't relate to. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAgX1xkFAvMr/nNX8RAlTnAJ9+cvMbeH9j5+pRjyLKn//8+nVG+gCfQJjR Mfll/v/vSW6MWfuumArb6Q0= =bL1U -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Calgary gets smart!
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:19:02 -0700 Erylon Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Admitted, but that doesn't have anything to do with usability, consistency and device support, right? And don't get too comfortable, as soon as Linux gets enough penetration in the desktop market (which I definitely think it will - think of 1.3 billion users in China), the evil-doers will turn their attention on it. They've pretty much ignored it for now since they get so much more bang for the buck from Windows. I work with some Unix/Linux diehards. When I asked one for help with my digital camera under LInux, he sheepishly admitted that he uses Windows at home, simply because of device support. If you had chosen your camera with the intent to use it with Linux, that wouldn't be an issue, now would it? Because I run Linux, I have to think ahead and choose my hardware carefully, and then my hardware works. And I don't care if the bad guys turn their attention to Linux. What you don't seem to understand is that the system architecture is different. Someone's script can't run on my machine without my jumping through very specific hoops to allow it to do so (unless I run as root--in which case Darwinian theory comes into play). The evil-doers have ignored Linux because they can't figure a way to get me to su to a terminal and chmod +x the toy that they've created, and then ./etc. I understand what you are saying, but I don't agree with it. I'm going to pick a camera that does what I want, not one that suits Linux. Besides, the issue I mentioned is with a memory card reader, which would have occurred regardless of which camera I picked. Regarding your comments about the *nix architecture providing protection, true, it does make it harder to exploit. But that's the thing about intrusions - they find holes you don't know about. Obviously, Linux has much fewer of them given the number of publicized intrusions to date. Look, I'm here, I like Linux, I'm finding more tools that make Linux becoming my full time OS more feasible. I just find the winsux-winblows comments irritating. Since Windows 2000, I've found that platform to be very stable and interface design pretty consistent across applications. Ever try to cut and paste from nedit into sylpheed, for example? Why can't everyone agree on something simple like a clipboard, for crying out loud? -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Windows Remoting X'ing
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:01:48 -0500 jeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question for the list, what do I need to send x via ssh to my windows box? cygwin with XFree86 I have a Mandrake 10 server running ssh and x, on my windows xp box, I am running putty with x11 forwarding on. However, I login fine but when I launch x as a normal user I get : [EMAIL PROTECTED] jebba]$ startx Authentication failed - cannot start X server. Perhaps you do not have console ownership?xinit: Server error. But, when I log in as root, and start x. It runs on the server. Hopefully this makes sense? I am still very new to linux. What I'm a doing wrong? -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Run remote gnome-session on local gnome
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:18:43 +0200 Alaa The Great [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:23:36 -0500 Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under Windows, I can run cygwin and create a X session running in a single window, inside which I can run gnome-session on a remote Linux. I like that usage model. I know about and have used vnc, but I prefer do the remote X thing. Is it possible to do the same thing while running gnome on my local Linux system? I tried simply ssh -X-l into a remote box and simply firing up gnome-session, and gnome actually came up, but it got upset that I was already running a window manager, and got totally confused since I had two panels. I had to exit X completely to get it reset. I haven't found a way to confine a remote gnome-session to a single window under Linux. Appreciate any pointers. use Xnest, the nested X server which gives you an X session in a window. urpmi XFree-Xnest Alaa, thanks very much, this looks like what I'm looking for. I'm having a little trouble getting started. Following directions in the man pages, I simply started Xnest with Xnest :1. I got the following when I did this: _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6 _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/emach-mdk64:1 _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6 Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! The window came up, but when I then try to do xterm -display :1 it says: AUDIT: Fri Apr 2 00:29:49 2004: 11711 Xnest: client 1 rejected from local host Xlib: connection to :1.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1 Could you provide a suggestion on what to do next? Don't know if this matters, but the hostname emach-mdk64 is made up - I just put it in /etc/hosts as an alias for localhost. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Run remote gnome-session on local gnome
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 00:35:22 -0500 Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:18:43 +0200 Alaa The Great [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:23:36 -0500 Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under Windows, I can run cygwin and create a X session running in a single window, inside which I can run gnome-session on a remote Linux. I like that usage model. I know about and have used vnc, but I prefer do the remote X thing. Is it possible to do the same thing while running gnome on my local Linux system? I tried simply ssh-X-l into a remote box and simply firing up gnome-session, and gnome actually came up, but it got upset that I was already running a window manager, and got totally confused since I had two panels. I had to exit X completely to get it reset. I haven't found a way to confine a remote gnome-session to a single window under Linux. Appreciate any pointers. use Xnest, the nested X server which gives you an X session in a window. urpmi XFree-Xnest Alaa, thanks very much, this looks like what I'm looking for. I'm having a little trouble getting started. Following directions in the man pages, I simply started Xnest with Xnest :1. I got the following when I did this: _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6 _XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/emach-mdk64:1 _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6 Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! The window came up, but when I then try to do xterm -display :1 it says: AUDIT: Fri Apr 2 00:29:49 2004: 11711 Xnest: client 1 rejected from local host Xlib: connection to :1.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1 Could you provide a suggestion on what to do next? Don't know if this matters, but the hostname emach-mdk64 is made up - I just put it in /etc/hosts as an alias for localhost. Never mind, extensive mining on the web produced the -ac option. Thanks, Xnest is indeed what I wanted. -- Guy Rouillier -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Broken Shift Key
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:53:48 -0700 Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 31 March 2004 20:53, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wednesday 31 March 2004 09:53 pm, Glenn wrote: On Wednesday 31 March 2004 17:28, Charlie wrote: I've got you beat my friend. My IBM keyboard shows 22 July 1988. FInest keyboards I have ever seen... O.K. I admit defeat g Glenn: Wimp. You should have asked Charlie if it survived the beer immersion test. (I have verified that Logitech keyboards won't.) -- cmg Well, I don't know if it would survive that. I haven't tried it. I have two of these old IBM clicker keyboards and I love 'em. I wish I had a dozen more. I have one of those. I actually bought it in '93 from the Easy Options division. I treat it more tenderly than any other component. I can type much faster on it than any other keyboard, and unfortunately, it cannot be replaced. I contracted at IBM for many years - I know a closet with boxes full of them gathering dust. I'm tempted to call the guys back up and ask if I can have about a dozen of them. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Run remote gnome-session on local gnome
Under Windows, I can run cygwin and create a X session running in a single window, inside which I can run gnome-session on a remote Linux. I like that usage model. I know about and have used vnc, but I prefer do the remote X thing. Is it possible to do the same thing while running gnome on my local Linux system? I tried simply ssh -X -l into a remote box and simply firing up gnome-session, and gnome actually came up, but it got upset that I was already running a window manager, and got totally confused since I had two panels. I had to exit X completely to get it reset. I haven't found a way to confine a remote gnome-session to a single window under Linux. Appreciate any pointers. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Lost gnome-panel after installing 4.4.0 XFree86 on 9.2 AMD64
I installed the AMD64 binary version (yes, on an AMD64 system) of XFree86 4.4.0, downloaded from the XFree86.org site. I installed on an eMachines M6805, and I'm pleased to say that I've been able to get the native 1280x800 resolution on the LCD, and I've been able to simultaneously drive an attached monitor at an independent resolution and refresh rate. This laptop uses the ATI 9600 Mobility chip with 64 MB discrete RAM, and I'm running the RC1 Mandrake 9.2 AMD64 release. I'm using the radeon driver. The issue I'm having is with gnome-panel, and unfortunately I don't see a pattern in the problem. The very first time I started up X after installing 4.4.0, both screen had their own panel, and they both worked. I shut down and added Xinerama. When I rebooted, only the CRT had a panel. If I put the mouse on the LCD and hit alt-F1, I get the system menu in the upper right corner of the LCD, and it works. I've verified in /var/log/XFree.0.log that X recognizes the LCD as being the first monitor. If I now comment out Xinerama, when I start X I have *no* gnome-panel at all! Alt-F1 will still pop up the system menu in the upper right corner of the LCD. What can I do to get the panel on the LCD? And where can I find the configuration options for the radeon driver? Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Laptop LCD at 1280x800 on ATI 9600 Radeon Mobili ty
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:00:39 - Sweeney, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guy, Apparently the ATI Linux drivers do support this chip, Graphics Accelerators: ATI Radeon 8500, 9100, 9200, 9500, 9600, 9700, 9800, ATI Mobility 9000, 9600 --- Think this is the one you want From - http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/readme0370.txt I was interested in getting the same Laptop as you... If the driver works could you let us know? :) After *way* too many hours, I have been able to get the ATI driver to run the screen in its native 1280x800 mode. I had to rebuild the ATI-supplied driver. The to configure, I had to run the generic X configuration instead of ATI's fglrxconfig program. The latter will only allow you to choose standard resolutions, i.e., 1024x768. I've only tried this in 32-bit Linux so far. I'm not hopeful about 64-bit Linux, as ATI delivers a precompiled static 32-bit lib that is not rebuilt when you rebuild the driver. Stevie :) -Original Message- From: Guy Rouillier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:21 AM To: Mandrake Newbie Subject: [newbie] 9.2 Laptop LCD at 1280x800 on ATI 9600 Radeon Mobility I've got a new laptop (eMachines M6805 with AMD64) with the stated resolution. It has an ATI Radeon 9600 Mobility chip with 64 MB graphics memory. Unfortunately, ATI has not produced a Linux driver for it, so until I can find one, I'm using ati fbdev, which I assume is a framebuffer device. I discovered by trial and error that the vendor-independent VESA driver also works. With the fbdev, I only have standard monitor options to choose from, so I picked 1024x768. Is it possible to use custom resolutions with frame buffer devices (or the VESA device)? If so, how can I determine the frequencies to use and the appropriate modeline? The owner's manual is woefully lacking in technical details. Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 9.2 Laptop LCD at 1280x800 on ATI 9600 Radeon Mobility
I've got a new laptop (eMachines M6805 with AMD64) with the stated resolution. It has an ATI Radeon 9600 Mobility chip with 64 MB graphics memory. Unfortunately, ATI has not produced a Linux driver for it, so until I can find one, I'm using ati fbdev, which I assume is a framebuffer device. I discovered by trial and error that the vendor-independent VESA driver also works. With the fbdev, I only have standard monitor options to choose from, so I picked 1024x768. Is it possible to use custom resolutions with frame buffer devices (or the VESA device)? If so, how can I determine the frequencies to use and the appropriate modeline? The owner's manual is woefully lacking in technical details. Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GTK2 and Sylpheed Claws WORKS!
Organization: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.8claws (GTK+ 2.2.4; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:20:29 -0800 David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:15:30 -0600 John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well when I type across the screen, it wordwraps at the edge of my window. If I resize the window, it acts accordingly. I don't know why yours just runs of the edge of the screen. And the way to make it not Well, another thing to try is to increase the size of the font. On default, it's at 9 point which is incredibly tiny. Consequently, when composing a new message, the composer thinks I have 110+ character lines when I want 68 or 70 character ones. In 14 point it is readable and it's wrapping at about column 70, according to the ruler. I think the comment I made about wrapping in my previous point should be taken with a grain of salt, if the composer assomes the wrapping point is at the right edge of the composer window it's a moot point anyway, but there doesn't seem to be a configuration setting (or I haven't found it) that tells the composer not to go past column 72, for instance. Tools - Common Preferences - Compose. This is where the wrap settings are kept. On deletion of a message - it seems to have taken a long time for the first message. Maybe it had to do reindexing or some such. Subsequent deletes seem as fast as vanilla sylpheed, but it doesn't seem to just display the next message unless you click with the mouse. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ldm_validate_partition failed
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:50:11 -0500 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 10:56:20PM -0500, Guy Rouillier wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:39:05 -0500 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had something funky happen, probably related to a cd-burning/cache-clearing mishap and/or a power failure. Anyway, when I try to boot, I get endless ldm_validate_partition failed messages. I do a hard reset and boot into nonfb or secure and everything seems normal. Any ideas on how to fix the normal boot? I get this message on an old computer (dual Pentium 233MMX) with an external flash card reader plugged into USB. I normally only have one card in it (it has two slots for different formats) and Linux just doesn't like the missing drive. I've filed several bug reports and tried a half-dozen kernels over the last year, still no luck. Do you have a flash card reader? yes, a sandisk 2-in-1. When I log in normally I get a few of those messages, no big deal. This rebooting, though, seems to go in a loop and it never boots. Do you think the usb card reader is the problem? Strange cause it worked before. Go figure. I have the exact same device (SanDisk 2 in 1 external.) See the bug report here: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1844 (and notice the link to an earlier bug 930 reported a year earlier. Sorry, I have no solution. Strangely, last time I checked, Redhat had a working solution. Don't know why these distro's can't learn from each other. When I'm feeling a little braver and have more sleep I'll see what unplugging the reader and removing the line from /etc/fstab does. Todd -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] insmod reports error because no floppy
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 08:09:57 -0500 Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 08 February 2004 02:45 am, Guy Rouillier wrote: -I just got a new laptop that has no floppy. With both Mandrake 9.2 -32-bit and the AMD64 beta, every time they boot they print out an insmod-error during checking for new hardware because the box has no floppy-disk drive. Everything appears to work fine, so the message is just-a minor irritation. How can I tell the kernel not to look for a floppy-during bootup? The only mention I could find of a floppy in startup-config files was ide-floppy in devfsd(not booted at the moment, I think-that was it.) Can I simply remove that? Thanks. If you've got everything else going the way that you want, why not just turn harddrake off under MCC - services so it won't even check for new hardware? I plug in a USB mouse and compact flash into the built-in memory card reader. If I don't leave harddrake active, those are not detected. I have done that on other installations though. Thanks for the idea. (just don't forget to turn it back on if you do add new hardware) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is having LILO/GRUB on the MBR harmful to XP?
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 19:56:24 +0200 Johan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I suggest grub.. On my drive one there is win 98 - mdk 9.2 - fedora - suse 9.0. On my drive two there is win xp home. Grub handles this effortlessly. I even experimented with to two win systems (up to 3 win systems can be handled) on same drive - that worked fine with the hide/unhide option. This is all in the grub howto.. etc. grub need some close study and I feel sure it can be done. Thanks, I'm going to give it a try! Johan *** On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:17:49 + Robert Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 04 Feb 2004 4:59 am, Guy Rouillier wrote: Robert, mind if I piggyback on this question? I have a new AMD64 laptop, and it came with XP Home (of course!) I want to put XP-64 as well as Mandrake 32-bit and 64-bit. Can lilo or grub handle copying files before starting to boot Windows versions? Here's the rub: all versions of Windows derived from NT have two critical startup files: ntldr and ntdetect.com. These are incompatible between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions, so I need the boot mechanism to copy in the right versions from backup directories before kicking off the boot process. System Commander does this, and I just learned the hard way that BootMagic (comes with Partition Magic) does *not* gr. Seeing as I have to start all over, I thought I'd try doing it with grub. Thanks. Greg, If I read your question right you want to quad boot your machine? That is an interesting idea :-) Might be difficult to manage booting into the 2 Windows partitions though. (Not sure really). I think you might have to move this question to the expert mailing list if you get stuck :-) It would be difficult for Lilo/Grub to see the windows files you refer to as the Windows partitions wouldn't be mounted by Linux at that point. Robert -- Johan Registered Linux User #330034 .. still learning May this be a good day for learning -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GTK2 and Sylpheed Claws WORKS!
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:24:01 -0600 John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the long post, but I am happy right now. I finally got sick and tired of that horrible GTK1 version of Sylpheed. It was really the only app I still used regularly that used it. So I went on a treasure hunt to find a gtk2 port of sylpheed, and guess what I found? Sylpheed-claws's cvs holds a gtk2 branch! I checked it out, compiled it, and tried it. It's even the newest version: 0.9.8. Check my X-Mailer: header. Anyway, I may make an RPM for it once I figure a couple more things out. Here's what you can do to get it yourself: Spell check works too, if you add --enable-aspell to configure. 1. cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/sylp heed-claws login press enter when the password prompt comes up. 2. cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/sylp heed-claws co -r gtk2 sylpheed-claws^^^That is one line 3.change into the sylpheed-claws directory. 4. Open the file configure.ac and change line 63 from AC_CONFIG_HEADERS(config.h) to AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h) 5. Then save it, and run autogen.sh. type make, then become root and type make install. Enjoy your new gtk2 sylpheed-claws John Drouhard -- Thu Feb 5 20:11:30 CST 2004 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Be both a speaker of words and a doer of deeds. -- Homer -- Thu Feb 5 20:23:46 CST 2004 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step. -- Lao Tsu -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is having LILO/GRUB on the MBR harmful to XP?
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 22:23:11 + Robert Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, I have a dual boot Windows XP Pro and MDK 9.2 on my P4-M laptop. I had Windows XP Pro installed as a single NTFS partition (about 36gig). I just resized the Windows partition using the Mandrake partitioning tool (why use Partition Magic?? :-) and made a second partition (native Linux ext-3). I didn't even bother defraging the Windows partition!! I didn't bother with a shared FAT partition as Linux support for reading from NTFS is excellent or a swap partition (the laptop has 1 gig of RAM). I just installed MDK with a Lilo bootloader and it works great. I also have MDK Linux installed on a PC I use as a router/gateway with a cheapo MSI motherboard. This MB has a virus checker in the BIOS which checks the MBR for nasty viri. Unfortunately it thinks Linux is a virus so I just turned it off (its probably only needed by M$ Winblows users anyway :-). So don't worry about using the MBR... budge over Winblows and make room for a real OS :-) Robert Robert, mind if I piggyback on this question? I have a new AMD64 laptop, and it came with XP Home (of course!) I want to put XP-64 as well as Mandrake 32-bit and 64-bit. Can lilo or grub handle copying files before starting to boot Windows versions? Here's the rub: all versions of Windows derived from NT have two critical startup files: ntldr and ntdetect.com. These are incompatible between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions, so I need the boot mechanism to copy in the right versions from backup directories before kicking off the boot process. System Commander does this, and I just learned the hard way that BootMagic (comes with Partition Magic) does *not* gr. Seeing as I have to start all over, I thought I'd try doing it with grub. Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 9.2 RC1 AMD64 on eMachines M6805 notebook: key_b jammed
Anyone tried the above combination? Best Buy had a sale on these I couldn't resist, and the first thing I tried was to install the 64-bit version. It installed okay (some wierdness with this Synaptics touchpad - seems to select things all by itself if the cursor just goes over something.) During bootup, I notice that it says key_b jammed four times. The keyboard and touchpad still work, but I also get an insmod error later (haven't tracked that down yet.) A friend at work ran alsa sound to configure the sound, now the whole system appears to be trashed - won't boot up, gets stuck on detecting new hardware. I'm going to try the Fedora AMD64 beta to see if that fares any better. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Suggestions for an email program that can be used from Linux and WIN 2000
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 17:51:37 -0500 Dave Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 02 February 2004 05:01 pm, Steve Kaufman wrote: Since I am still so new to this linux environment and have not even gotten past the very simplest of things I am still using my win2K system a lot. I would like to be able to read my email from either system especially this list, and be able to see my folders from either system. Does anyone have any suggestions of an email program that I could use to do this? Not sure if this is an option for you (your ISP has to provide it), but IMAP will allow you to keep all your mail (in folders) on the server, so that you can read it from anywhere. The more common protocol, POP, usually has you downloading all your mail to your local system (though most mail systems have an option to leave a copy on the server.) Many Linux mail clients support both POP and IMAP (Evolution, Mozilla Mail and Sylpheed, among many others.) snip Mozilla Thunderbird is the obvious candidate, but to get it set up to work in both environments will take some research and tinkering. Hopefully somebody on the list has done this before. I *believe* there is documentation on how to get Thunderbird to use the same folders from both environments on the Mozilla website. hth = David Steiner www.DavidLSteiner.com Proud Linux User #262493 = -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remove boot splash from lilo.conf
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:35:04 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony S. Sykes wrote: John, Try splash=silent. Tony. Cannot, Had to do it the long way. Add nosplash to append line in lilo.conf move or rename the old initrd file in /boot then, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.21-0.13mdk.img 2.4.21-0.13mdk mke2fs 1.32 (09-Nov-2002) then run lilo and reboot, I think if the current gui boot script didn't reduce my 17 monitor to about 6 and if it gave me 50 lines of script I wouldn't mind using it. But why they couldn't of thought up some decent easy to remember and change switches for the appen= line, like guiboot and txtboot beats me.Anything with splash in it is going to be confused with the initial splash screen for selecting the OS. I changed the message line in lilo.conf to message=/boot/message.txt and created the referenced file with the single line: Tab or ? to list, enter to boot default If you pull up the supplied /boot/message file, you'll see all kinds of ANSI sequences, which is where the GUI boot screen is coming from. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Unresolved symbol for mysqlcc 0.9.4
I downloaded mysqlcc 0.9.4 rpm (the Mandrake i586 version) from Carroll EDU. It installed fine, but when I try to run it, it complains about unresolved symbol _ZN7QActionC1EP7QObjectPKc. How do I go about finding what library this symbol is in, so I can figure out what I need to update? Thanks. I searched google and the mysql site and mailing list to no avail. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mozilla and gaelon hangs
babar haq wrote: Hi I have mandrake 9.2 installed. Both my fav browsers hangs after start up. How to find out that wat going wrong??? konqueror is working fine. Try starting galeon from a command prompt instead of clicking on the icon. Just open a terminal and type galeon (without the double quotes.) You might see a message that gives a clue why they are hanging. I use them both in 9.2. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake 9.2 packaging of gCvs
I'm having difficulty with the Mandrake 9.2 version of gcvs. I installed both it and the version of cvs that come on the distribution. When I try to set preferences, gcvs complains something like alternate cvs does not support gui redirection. I remembered from the last time I used this reading that gcvs needs a special version of cvs that recognizes the --cvsgui option, so that it can capture the output from cvs; the package description actually says this. I looked in the detailed description for the Mandrake version of gcvs and saw no cvs included there So I went onto the wincvs site and downloaded the version of gcvs I found there (the i386 RPM package). Sure enough, it contains its own cvs, which it installs in /usr/local/bin. After installing this version, it works fine. Am I doing something incorrectly, or is this a packaging issue I should submit as a bug? -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Realplayer Probs
Jerry Barton wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 01:05:58 -0800 E. Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinkin' there be sumthin strange about the way 9.2 is handling Mozilla plugins. I just put 9.2 on a test machine, and I could not get the Flashplayer 6 plugin to appear. Both files were installed in the plugins directory, but Helpabout plug-ins didn't show them, and, of course, Flash didn't work. I've installed Flash 6 on several 9.1 machines (the very same files, in fact), and it worked flawlessly. I still had the *.so and *.class files from Flash 5, so I experimented and copied them to the moz plugins directory. Flash worked! I removed them and tried the *.so and *.xpt from known working Flash 6 machines, and they wouldn't work. Smells like a bug, to me. I got flash to work with the plf .rpm but not with the installer from macromedia's site. There's some other file needed but i don't remember what it is. I was unable to get flash working for the longest time. Then, in the course of debugging a different issue, I happened to try starting galeon from a command line. It complained that it was missing library libstdc++-libc6.2 (something like that, sorry, I moved onto other problems since then.) So I hunted around and found that package libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.83mdk (comes on the Mandrake CD) contains this lib. Installed that package, and now flash works in all my browsers. This is the 6.0.79 (whatever) version downloaded directly from the Macromedia site. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Galeon (from eslrahc) and Thunderbird don't play well together
Charles, I was out last week, but read the archives and saw you put a new Galeon up. Thanks. I also have your Mozilla 1.5. I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird for IMAP mail. I'm having some trouble getting these three to play well together, and wanted to check with you before filing a bug on Thunderbird. I can't launch Galeon from an email in Thunderbird - gives me a seg fault, the solution to which I found here: http://galeon.sourceforge.net/support/faq.php So I set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to /usr/lib/mozilla-1.5. This enables me to launch Galeon by clicking a link in an email, and I can also start Galeon from the icon in my task bar. However, with this env variable set, I cannot launch Thunderbird. I'm pretty sure this is a bug in the Thunderbird script, as if this variable is set, Thunderbird looks for both run-mozilla.sh and thunderbird-bin in the directory referenced by MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME. I don't see how that can be right, unless I'm setting MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME incorrectly. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] gnome desktop, menus
John wrote: Hi I have been through all the updates for 9.2 including the menu update. Gnome desktop is nowhere to be found. It was listed during the menu update process(update-menus -v) and is listed in the software database for removal but does not show up as desktop environment. The kde menus are still missing applications including gnome. Kmix is also missing. System volume is full throttle. I changed the menu environment to all applications-Mandrake menu from simiplfied version. Desktop icons are not working after changing menu environment. The menu environment is still to the simplified version. I have probably overlooked some steps here and would appreciate any help. John, Fig provided me with these links when I had this problem a couple days ago. They seem to have worked for me. BTW, I never used update-menus -v, but I did su and bring up Mandrake Control Center and then MenuDrake. All I had to do was hit the Save button, having changed nothing, and that made the menus reappear. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:030 http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:030-1 Use the second one. Thanks John -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Software Media Manager
Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday 26 December 2003 7:25 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: whack Ok, I see what you are talking about, Carroll EDU seems to have an extra contrib directory (that had the anjuta I wanted) that is not part of cooker and appears not to be structured like the others. Under /pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel are both a cooker and a contrib subdirectory. If I look under cooker/i586/Mandrake, I do indeed see a base directory with the files you describe. However, if I look in contrib/i586, there are no subdirectories - all the RPMs are right there (including the two . And I wouldn't expect to find descriptions for those files in ../../cooker/i586/Mandrake/base, since the files in contrib are not even in cooker. But that's exactly where they are Guy. For consistency and ease of coding all of the relevant hdlists are always in /Mandrake/base with only synthesis files in the actual directory. URPMI is coded to look there for the package information it needs to deal with user requests. If you think of it that way it may make more sense because the prime reason for a list of available packages and the information to make it possible to avoid dependency problems is to *install* those packages. That means the list has to be somewhere consistent in the tree structure or it won't be found; then cooker or release become slaughter and re-install and that will never do. (-; What I'm saying is the hdlists should always be where they are (/Mandrake/base) so that urpmi doesn't become too unwieldy. Ok, let me be exact then. I'm ftp'd into Carroll. Here is the full path the the contrib directory I need: /pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/contrib/i586 This directory has the two synthesis files in it. And here is the path to the hdlist.cz to which you referred: /pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base This directory has a whole bunch of hdlist files, plus one called hdlists which describe what they all do. Here is the contents of hdlists: hdlist.cz Mandrake/RPMS Installation CD hdlist.src.cz ../SRPMSInstallation sources hdlist2.cz Mandrake/RPMS2 Contrib CD hdlist2.src.cz ../../contrib/SRPMS Contrib sources hdlist3.cz Mandrake/RPMS3 Jpackage hdlist3.src.cz ../../contrib/jpackage/SRPMSJpackage sources Now, in order to get from this base directory into the contrib/i586 directory would require this navigation: ../../../../contrib/i586 which doesn't fit any of the descriptions from the hdlists I printed out above. Sorry, Charlie, I *do* have a cold, so maybe I'm not thinking clearly, but do you see why I'm still not clear on this? It doesn't look like any of the hdlist files is for that other contrib directory. My pleasure. I hope I was of some help. Absolutely, I would not have gotten this far without your insights. Thanks again. You're very welcome Guy; but I have a question for you. You are free to refuse to answer, it's your choice: Are we havin' fun yet? g I should probably be asking you that gr. I appreciate your continued indulgence. Charlie -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xfce-4.0.2
Charles A Edwards wrote: On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:06:58 -0500 Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles, sorry to send one note after the other. I downloaded your galeon package, and I'm trying to install it. When I do, it complains galeon-1.3.10-3.4mdk.i586 (due to unsatisied mozilla[*][== 1.5]. I interpreted this to mean it wants Mozilla 1.5. Not sure why, as I went to the galeon site and it said this version should work with older Mozilla versions. The version of mozilla that is required is dependent upon the version of mozilla installed on the system when galeon is built. Mozilla-1.5 is also avaiable from my site. There had been reports of problems with it so I removed both it and galeon from the hdlist so urpmi would not auto install them. Both can still be manually dled and installed from the 9.2 page. Thank you, Charles. I downloaded Mozilla 1.5 and it's required libs from your site and was subsequently able to install Galeon. I appreciate your putting these rpms together and sharing them with us. Charles -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Software Media Manager
Charlie, I have anjuta up and running, so this conversation is now just for my knowledge. Please feel free to take as long as you want to reply - no hurry. Charlie Mahan wrote: ../../cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz since the directory we started from was contrib we want the hdlist for that set of packages. I'm with you here. Are you running cooker or 9.2? Cooker packages often don't play well with release compilers etc so I hope you have a reason to want that ajunta package from cooker. Just a word of caution, I always start breaking my install and go full cooker about halfway through a release cycle (or earlier) myself. I've read caveats about cooker several times. anjuta is not in the cooker subdirectory, but in its contrib sibling, both under mandrake-devel. Is that equally as dangerous? The main reason I'm going there is that I'm just getting started with anjuta, and I read on the anjuta site that the new version fixes lots of bugs. Maybe I'd be better off just compiling it myself? /pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base This directory has a whole bunch of hdlist files, plus one called hdlists which describe what they all do. Here is the contents of hdlists: hdlist.cz Mandrake/RPMS Installation CD hdlist.src.cz ../SRPMSInstallation sources hdlist2.cz Mandrake/RPMS2 Contrib CD hdlist2.src.cz ../../contrib/SRPMS Contrib sources hdlist3.cz Mandrake/RPMS3 Jpackage hdlist3.src.cz ../../contrib/jpackage/SRPMSJpackage sources Yeah I see it. The mirrors have a weird directory structure. Release trees are a bit simpler I think. Maybe. I'm still trying to figure out why you're working this backwards. The package manager has to know where the packages are, and the relative path from _there_ to the hdlists, not the other way around, which is what you're doing. The reason I'm looking at it backwards is to convince myself, looking at hdlists above, that hdlist2.cz is the one I need. My reading of the list above is that hdlist2.cz is for this directory: /pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2 which appears to be a symlink to /pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 But the directory I'm interested in is this one: /pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/contrib/i586 I did an eyeball comparison of these two directories and they are very similar but not exactly the same. The version of anjuta is different, and I happened to notice this new file in mandrake-devel that is not in mandrake/9.2: anomy-sanitizer-1.63-7mdk.noarch.rpm If I don't make it back tonight please be patient, or hopefully one of the smart people that read the list will jump in. I hope. I really do need to be horizontal for a few hours. Today actually started Thursday morning. I know that feeling, don't run yourself into the ground. Happy New Year, Charlie. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Software Media Manager
Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 25 December 2003 11:46 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: I'm having difficulty understanding the proper way to configure the Software Media Manager (SMM). I was trying to install the latest Anjuta 1.2.0, and I found it here: ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/contrib/i 586 I started by adding the following to the sources first, as it contained files I needed: ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i58 6 When I did that, it seemed to find the hdlist all by itself. I'm looking at the config for that and it claims the relative path is hdlist.cz. When I click on a file in this directory, I see descriptions for it. It also took a long time for the SMM to download it, I guess because it was downloading all the descriptions. The contrib directory on the mirrors have a synthesis.hdlist.cz file in them. In fact I think part of the reason that people have been getting warnings is there are two, a synthesis.hdlist2.cz plus synthesis.hdlist.cz in the three I browsed. Those files contain the descriptions. There is also an hdlist2.cz in (relative to the contrib tree) ../../i586/Mandrake/base that contains all of the information required if you have the GUI software manager (rpmdrake) set to show all information. That's the large one that takes forever to download. Relative sizes for the two: synthesis.hdlist.cz (in contrib tree) 275.9 KB hdlist2.cz (in base) 15.6 MB Charlie, thanks for the detailed reply. After you pointed it out, I got back on gFtp and went back to Carroll EDU. I do indeed see hdlist.cz in pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 and two sythesis files in pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/contrib/i586. On this particular FTP site I can't find the base directory you identify relative to the mandrake-devel directory. Perhaps because this is a devel directory? In the non-devel contrib directory, I do indeed see a 16 MB hdlist.cz file. When I added the first ftp directory above, I again didn't specify the relative path to synthesis/hdlist. Editing that entry now I see synthesis.hdlist.cz. It finished very fast, and I could see it trying to find an hdlist in multiple locations (and failing, apparently.) I have no descriptions for anything in that directory, though the files themselves show up. See above. Finally, my questions: (1) Am I doing the appropriate thing by specifying the complete directory, or should I just be ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu; and it knows to look in the appropriate subdirectories? You did it correctly, but during most of the day the carroll.aset.psu.edu mirror will often not be available to anonymous ftp transactions. The bandwidth is reserved for the university, and people that have accounts, during business hours. Fortunately for me I'm a night owl, so I usually do this stuff after 10 pm EST. The sub directories are required in the URL unless you're using a command line mirroring app such as rsync to mirror locally. Those kinds of applications use modules on the remote server so the instructions are slightly different. (2) What is the appropriate thing to enter in the relative path to synthesis/hdlist field? How do I know this without someone telling me? For the second ftp directory above (the one that seems to have been added completely, judging from the presence of descriptions), I don't see any hdlist file in the ftp directory (I ftp'd there directly.) Since you asked. (-; You have to specify the directory containing the files/packages that you need. To get to the rest of the information about those files you have to use the actual hdlist and not the synthesis so you have to change directories. The relative path I showed above is changing two directories upward (../../) then following the path to the base directory. But how do you know that hdlist file two directories up (and over in the base case discussed above) has details on the files you are looking at? I tried downloading one of these hdlist files and they are apparently binary, so you can't just browse them. As far as knowing without being told Guy, I suppose there are only a couple of ways; Go snooping on the mirror you selected as your favourite and find the files that you are interested in, then figure out the paths and how to move between them. That's the way I did it lo these many moons ago. Or: Use the automatically configured update_source path that's built for you when you run Mandrake Update as a starting point, and adapt the paths to what you need at present, for the software source you intend to use. The urpmi plain text configuration files are in file:/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg and the lists etcetera are stored locally in file:/var/lib/urpmi/ (3) The install of anjuta found everything on the carroll edu site, and installed okay (anjuta runs.) But when it finished, it said installation failed
Re: [newbie] Software Media Manager
Charlie Mahan wrote: snip Charlie, thanks for the detailed reply. After you pointed it out, I got back on gFtp and went back to Carroll EDU. I do indeed see hdlist.cz in pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 and two sythesis files in pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/contrib/i586. On this particular FTP site I can't find the base directory you identify relative to the mandrake-devel directory. Perhaps because this is a devel directory? In the non-devel contrib directory, I do indeed see a 16 MB hdlist.cz file. There is a base directory in the trees for all releases, including for cooker (mandrake-devel). From the mandrake module on the mirror open i586/Mandrake/base. The mandrake module starts after the: /distributions/ It's where the md5sums, hdlists, and other odds'n'sods are. Click below to see it: ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/base If you use a browser and shorten the URL to leave out the i586 and subsequent parts, then (in Konqueror anyway) click View, View Mode and select Tree View you'll see what I mean more clearly. Click the URL below, set your browser as suggested and then open the contrib directory and browse to the packages. - From there to get to the /base directory use the Up arrow on the navigation bar twice, then open the i586 directory, Mandrake directory, the base directory. What you did manually is the equivalent of the relative path to sub URL I showed before: ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz BTW the line above can be copied and pasted into the appropriate line of the Software Source editor dialogue. Ok, I see what you are talking about, Carroll EDU seems to have an extra contrib directory (that had the anjuta I wanted) that is not part of cooker and appears not to be structured like the others. Under /pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel are both a cooker and a contrib subdirectory. If I look under cooker/i586/Mandrake, I do indeed see a base directory with the files you describe. However, if I look in contrib/i586, there are no subdirectories - all the RPMs are right there (including the two . And I wouldn't expect to find descriptions for those files in ../../cooker/i586/Mandrake/base, since the files in contrib are not even in cooker. My pleasure. I hope I was of some help. Absolutely, I would not have gotten this far without your insights. Thanks again. Charlie -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xfce-4.0.2
Charles A Edwards wrote: Mandrake 9.2 rpm for xfce-4.0.2 are now available from my site. 4.0.2 is a bug-fix release. Changes: * Improve window manager responsiveness * Various bug fixes in file manager, window manager and panel * More 64bit clean up * New translations added: Azerbaijani I have not updated the webpage index yet so you will need to use urpmi. Charles Charles, you had so many great packages at your site, I added it as an update source (the 9.2 part.) I don't see galeon listed, though - might it have gotten left out of hdlist? Thanks for sharing the benefits of your hard work with all of us. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xfce-4.0.2
Charles A Edwards wrote: Mandrake 9.2 rpm for xfce-4.0.2 are now available from my site. 4.0.2 is a bug-fix release. Changes: * Improve window manager responsiveness * Various bug fixes in file manager, window manager and panel * More 64bit clean up * New translations added: Azerbaijani I have not updated the webpage index yet so you will need to use urpmi. Charles Charles, sorry to send one note after the other. I downloaded your galeon package, and I'm trying to install it. When I do, it complains galeon-1.3.10-3.4mdk.i586 (due to unsatisied mozilla[*][== 1.5]. I interpreted this to mean it wants Mozilla 1.5. Not sure why, as I went to the galeon site and it said this version should work with older Mozilla versions. Anyway, I downloaded Mozilla 1.5 and installed it. It runs fine, but I'm still getting the install error on galeon. The new Mozilla installs in /usr/local/mozilla, while 1.4.1 installed to /usr/bin. So I added a symlink in /usr/bin and another in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.5/plugins, but I'm still getting the error when I try to install galeon. Any ideas? -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Software Media Manager
I'm having difficulty understanding the proper way to configure the Software Media Manager (SMM). I was trying to install the latest Anjuta 1.2.0, and I found it here: ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/contrib/i586 I started by adding the following to the sources first, as it contained files I needed: ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 When I did that, it seemed to find the hdlist all by itself. I'm looking at the config for that and it claims the relative path is hdlist.cz. When I click on a file in this directory, I see descriptions for it. It also took a long time for the SMM to download it, I guess because it was downloading all the descriptions. When I added the first ftp directory above, I again didn't specify the relative path to synthesis/hdlist. Editing that entry now I see synthesis.hdlist.cz. It finished very fast, and I could see it trying to find an hdlist in multiple locations (and failing, apparently.) I have no descriptions for anything in that directory, though the files themselves show up. Finally, my questions: (1) Am I doing the appropriate thing by specifying the complete directory, or should I just be ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu; and it knows to look in the appropriate subdirectories? (2) What is the appropriate thing to enter in the relative path to synthesis/hdlist field? How do I know this without someone telling me? For the second ftp directory above (the one that seems to have been added completely, judging from the presence of descriptions), I don't see any hdlist file in the ftp directory (I ftp'd there directly.) (3) The install of anjuta found everything on the carroll edu site, and installed okay (anjuta runs.) But when it finished, it said installation failed, source Carroll EDU has invalid list file format. What does this mean? Note this is the source with the descriptions. (3) I guess I should have asked this first. Is there a HOWTO on SMM? Thanks, as always. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 9.2 Installing many packages trashes menu
I brought this subject up before but the conversation veered off, so I thought I would raise it independently. Each time I install a multitude of packages, my menus seem to get reset to some tiny set. For example, the entire Packaging submenu is missing from Configuration. I tried logging out of X and coming back in, then I tried rebooting the computer entirely. Neither action fixed the menus. I had to start up MenuDrake as root, and do nothing other than hit the Save button. Then the menus reappeared. This doesn't seem to happen when I install a single package, only when I install a bunch at once. Am I doing something wrong, or is this a known issue? -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...
jason pearl wrote: lol probably i used to use the msn part of gaim but i gave up cuz of that problem.. i use aim and yahoo mostly I use gaim for aim+yahoo, and it works well. Not perfectly, unfortunately - many times signon will hang connecting to yahoo when I start up gaim. If I cancel that, immediately go to Tools-Accounts and check the checkbox for yahoo, it will successfully connect. Annoying, but not annoying enough for me to get my lazy self up and file a bug report. gaim releases come so quickly that I'm sure this will be fixed in another couple days. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] smbclient problem on 9.2 solved- It was the NIC
Tom Brinkman wrote: No, I don't intend to use SATA either. By the time I move from ATA/133 (which is just as fast), it'll probly be to PCI Express. For my reasons, search the archive for this list, Google or the lkml. I think you'll find that SATA sux. Driver support in the kernel is just one of the issues. PCI Express is just another backplane bus, like PCI, Microchannel, etc. It is not a hard disk controller, so you'll still need SCSI, SATA or PATA. Thanks for the pointers, though, for the resources that describe Linux's trouble with SATA. I'm currently planning a new system with dual Opterons. I'm tired of paying through the nose for SCSI, so was thinking of going SATA RAID with a set of Western Digital Raptor 74 GB. Does even 2.6 have trouble with SATA? Will hiding it behind a RAID card change the picture at all? 3Ware has Linux drivers. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fyi--thunderbird and url's
Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 01:10:49PM +1300, Sharrea Day wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:20, Todd Slater wrote: with some easy config, thunderbird 0.4 can launch url's. http://www.deftone.com/blogzilla/archives/mozilla_thunderbird_04_released .html Thanks for that Todd... been waiting for this feature! Bit of a bummer that the script copied from the URL wants to use another profile if firebird is already running tho. I changed it to konqueror so I don't have to worry about whether or not firebird is already running. Cheers Sharrea Sharrea, That choose profile is annoying. I use this script which I called /usr/bin/firebird to open links in a new tab. If you prefer, you can substitute new-window. Everything I use that launches URL's calls this script. Todd, I'm having trouble with the script below. I put in some echoes and ran the script from a terminal, and here is what I see: (1) If neither Thunderbird nor Firebird is running, the script successfully starts up Firebird and retrieves the target URL. (2) If *Thunderbird* is running the script thinks that Firebird is running. I guess because they both use the Mozilla rendering engine? (3) If either Thunderbird or Firebird is already running, it goes into the if case and prints out Failed to send command. The target URL is not retrieved. Any ideas? Todd #/bin/bash browserPath=/usr/local/MozillaFirebird/MozillaFirebird url=$@ $browserPath -remote ping() # $? = false if running, true if not if [ $? = 0 ] ; then exec $browserPath -remote openURL($url,new-tab) else $browserPath $url fi exit Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] C/C++ IDE Mandrake 9.2
On the Mandrake 9.2 download installation, does anyone remember the name of the package containing a C/C++ IDE (other than KDevelop)? I saw it a couple days ago when I was installing some other packages and thought to myself Hey, that looks interesting, I'll have to come back and check it out. Of course, now I can't remember the name, and I've tried search by name and by description to no avail. Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fyi--thunderbird and url's
Todd Slater wrote: That choose profile is annoying. I use this script which I called /usr/bin/firebird to open links in a new tab. If you prefer, you can substitute new-window. Everything I use that launches URL's calls this script. Todd, thanks for telling us about the version that fixes that annoying URL problem, AND giving us a solution for the profile problem! I was going to set it up to use Galeon, now I won't have to. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I remove the gui boot screen ?
John Richard Smith wrote: OK I've attatched dscioo21.jpg which is not a particularly sharp image but does to demonstate what I DO NOT WANT. How do I get back to what I want ? John, thanks for posting the image - I *never* would have understood that was what you were seeing. I just spent an hour trying to make that happen under 9.2, and no matter what combinations I tried, I couldn't get the OK messages to come up in that blue Mandrake graphics window. Sorry! -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I remove the gui boot screen ?
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Monday 15 December 2003 02:43 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: GR John, thanks for posting the image - I *never* would have understood GR that was what you were seeing. I just spent an hour trying to make that GR happen under 9.2, and no matter what combinations I tried, I couldn't GR get the OK messages to come up in that blue Mandrake graphics window. GR Sorry! But it will - if you just hit escape during the bootup process, right? I switched to LILO graphics for booting. If I hit escape while the LILO graphics menu is up, it simply switches to the LILO text prompt. If I hit escape after the making a selection from the LILO menu and the kernel has started loading, absolutely nothing happens - the kernel just keeps on loading. It definitely doesn't switch to the blue Mandrake window that John showed. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I remove the gui boot screen ?
Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday 15 December 2003 12:43 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: John Richard Smith wrote: OK I've attatched dscioo21.jpg which is not a particularly sharp image but does to demonstate what I DO NOT WANT. How do I get back to what I want ? John, thanks for posting the image - I *never* would have understood that was what you were seeing. I just spent an hour trying to make that happen under 9.2, and no matter what combinations I tried, I couldn't get the OK messages to come up in that blue Mandrake graphics window. Sorry! Open lilo.conf in the editor of your choice and change the append: splash=quiet to splash=verbose. You'll still get the 'fancy background' but you'll see the messages scroll by. Run lilo -v as super user afterwards. I'm using the version of lilo that comes with 9.2 (22.5.7.2) and it doesn't recognize the splash= option in lilo.conf. The bootsplash package is installed. You can also change the splash themes but that's another project for another post. ie.: When someone asks about it. g Alternative, splash=no gives a full console style boot, black background, boot messages. - -- -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How do I remove the gui boot screen ?
John Richard Smith wrote: I still cannot figure out how to get rid of the gui boot screen and return to my normal vga=791 black and white boot screen. It must be something simple, but what? John, I'm unclear if you are referring to the initial boot menu screen (I saw in later posts you are using LILO) being in graphics mode, or if you mean that you boot directly into the gnome or KDE desktop and would prefer to boot into a text-mode terminal session. If the latter, edit /etc/inittab as root and change the initdefault line to look like this: id:3:initdefault: You can accomplish the same thing using a GUI tool but I don't remember exactly what it is. If you are referring to LILO, I figured out under Redhat at work that if look in /etc/lilo.conf (which is a symlink into /boot), you see the following line: message=/boot/message I simply changed this to message=/boot/message.txt and created that message.txt file to contain something like Select a kernel to boot (tab or ? for list, enter for default). If you bring the original /boot/message up in an editor, you'll see it has all sorts of ANSI sequences that generate the LILO graphic. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Desktop issues, revisited
Bryan Phinney wrote: Well, based on the rest of what you say, you don't sound very converted to me. Bryan, please keep in mind this is a newbie list. I realized when I composed my initial message that I ran the risk of offending those who might perceive me as attacking their child, and I tried the best I could to keep subjective opinions out of my message and only point out things that might make a newbie's experience less pleasant than it could be. Judging from the tone of your reply, I failed, and I apologize for stepping on any toes of developer's of the products I mentioned. I was thinking of responding to the points you raised, but I don't see anything productive coming out of that. I've been tinkering with Linux for about 4 years now, but have been unable to adopt it full time because I haven't been able to assemble tools similar to the ones I've gathered over the years under Win2k and its predecessors. I still try, though, and I'm getting closer. My opinion is that the only way to improve the Linux experience is to point out deficiencies I find. You apparently find that offensive, so we'll just have to disagree. I am a software developer by profession and can contribute to improving open source software (and I do), but I don't have the time to contribute to a dozen different areas. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Desktop issues, revisited
Before I begin, let me start by saying I am a fan of Linux, so the points I raise below are from the converted. Last night I spent an exasperating 6 hrs struggling with numerous issues. I'll submit them as bugs if appropriate. I feel these issues (and many more like them) are impediments to the widespread adoption of Linux as a desktop platform. (1) Way back in April, I appended to an existing bug reporting the ldm_validate_partiion_table issue with removable USB devices (like flash card readers.) See here: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=930. Despite claims on that bug report, I tried numerous later kernels and never got it to work. Imagine my disappointment when I recently installed 9.2 and encountered the same problem. See here: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1844. (2) To connect to some Windows shares, I tried both LinNeighborhood and Gnomba. LinNeighborhood does a good job of finding resources, and mounting was as easy as a double-click. But when I selected a mounted resource and clicked the unmount button, LinNeighborhood crashed. This is repeatable. Gnomba, on the other hand, simply can't locate any resources. I finally figured out that by providing it an IP address range, it could then find resources. But obviously it should be able to do this in normal mode. I finally gave up and just did smbmount2 and smbumount from a command line. BTW, why can any user do smbmount, but only root do mount? Doesn't seem to make sense. (3) I've been trying for a month to connect to a Microsoft VPN server at work. I gave up trying under 9.1, but decided to give it another go with 9.2. I finally got it going (by reading for hours and with the help of some people at work.) But for some reason I have to insmod mppe every time I restart the computer. I only had to insmod ppp_generic one time, so I don't know why mppe won't stick. But obviously a less experienced user would never figure out all this insmoding and other gyrations I had to go through to get this to work. And why won't Mandrake upgrade to PPP 2.4.2? (4) I have to log onto over a dozen Unix servers at work, and use ssh via SecureCRT under Win2K. I realize Linux has ssh available in every terminal, but it's nice not to have to retype [EMAIL PROTECTED] every time, so I figured I'd give GTelnet a try. It remembers the user name and server via a drop down list, but it doesn't remember the protocol for each server, so you have to reselect the protocol every time. This is a usability irritant and would be easy to fix, but the product hasn't been updated in ages. I've given up on it and will just type ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] inside gnome-terminal. (5) While I was installing GTelnet, I figured I would install a bunch of other software I've been meaning to install, like Open Office. After it finished, my menus were completely hosed. Most applications were missing, including Configuration-Packaging. I started up MenuDrake, and it showed everything; it was in total disagreement with the real menus. Don't know how that could be, but all I did was do a Save without changing anything, and the menus were fixed (except I can't get the Office menu to show up for root no matter what I try, even though MenuDrake says its there.) Again, a normal end-user wouldn't know what to do if all his/her menus magically disappeared. (6) I use Mozilla Thunderbird and Firebird for IMAP mail and web browsing, respectively. URLs don't work in Thunderbird; they show as URLs, but if you click them, nothing happens. This issue has been known for at least 6 months. Thunderbird in Windows works just fine. (7) Open Office works okay, looks like the Windows version, but is glacial at loading. The Windows version loads much faster on the same hardware (dual boot.) (8) Actually, the Windows GUI is much more responsive than Gnome under 9.2. I have old, slow hardware (dual Pentium 233 MMX), will be upgrading to dual Opteron soon. But dragging a window around, e.g., under Linux leaves trails for about 1/2 to 1 second. Under Windows, dragging is pretty smooth, and never leaves trails. Lest I come off as a complainer, many things under Linux are done very well. rdesktop is really slick - looks great, faster than Remote Desktop under Windows. gCVS is a great first attempt, though it's missing some basics (like context menus) and hasn't been updated since v1.0 came out in January. gFtp is also well done. But unfortunately the fit and finish on many things is wanting, and those less zealous than the people on this list will find Linux as a desktop frequently exasperating. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux to MS VPN
Guy Rouillier wrote: At work, we are considering replacing CheckPoint SecureRemote VPN with Microsoft VPN that's built in to Windows 2K server versions. To hook up with MS VPN from a Win2K remote system requires no add-on software; everything needed is built into Win2K. Does anyone have any experience with setting up Linux to connect to a MS VPN? From what I gather from the people here at work, MS VPN is a much more straightforward IPSEC VPN implementation than is CheckPoint, but I don't really know much about it. Thanks for any pointers. Answering my own question (for those trolling the archives), a Linux PPTP client can be found here: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/ A member of my team claims to have already used it to connect to a MS VPN. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux to MS VPN
At work, we are considering replacing CheckPoint SecureRemote VPN with Microsoft VPN that's built in to Windows 2K server versions. To hook up with MS VPN from a Win2K remote system requires no add-on software; everything needed is built into Win2K. Does anyone have any experience with setting up Linux to connect to a MS VPN? From what I gather from the people here at work, MS VPN is a much more straightforward IPSEC VPN implementation than is CheckPoint, but I don't really know much about it. Thanks for any pointers. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need Trouble Ticket program recommendation
Tango Echo wrote: Hi all, I searched freshmeat for trouble ticket programs and found quite a handful. I would like your recommendations... Are any of you using a linux/web based support ticket program? Do you know of any good ones in 9.1? Something for an IS department to track problems and search/retrieve later for solutions would be intent here. We use one in our company that was developed by one of our former employees in his own business. See http://www.modernthinking.com. It is web-based and very easy to use. Has good search capabilities. We use it not only for trouble ticketing, but also for our maintenance schedule. Thanks in advance!! __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java Developer Kit???
emim limam wrote: Hhi guys, I need a nice and easy to use Java Developer GUI. Is there any one i can use easily? I am not advance in programming and also linux. So i neet something really easy to configure and use? Like Jcreator. any help and recommendation appreciated. emin There are many from which to choose, and preferences are very individual. I've used both JBuilder (from Borland) and Eclipse and like them both. Eclipse is freely available, and there is a version of JBuilder also available for free download. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [Fwd: Re: [newbie] ssh on Mandrake 9.0]
Thinker wrote: Is there a simpler way to do this? or rather, is there a way to reinstall whatever I have missing using the CD's? Sure, just run the Remove Software tool, uninstall the appropriate RPM, then install it again. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Easy way to update Gaim to 0.70?
Derek Jennings wrote: On Sunday 05 Oct 2003 4:06 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote: I'm running Mandrake 9.1 with Gaim 0.68. I want to update to 0.70 but don't see this as an option currently in the Cooker mirrors I use. Installing the Mandrake 9.1 RPM from the Sourceforge site fails on some needed libraries. Is there a quick easy way to upgrade to 0.70 while maintaining my current settings? Thanks. First of all. If you are running 9.1 then you should **not** be using any Cooker mirrors. Cooker is (or will shortly, briefly be) 9.2 Mixing packages from different releases is a recipe for creating 'dependency hell' Now for Gaim-0.70 There are packages on Texstars download repository Go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and declare a urpmi source for Texstar and you will then be able to see hos packahes in your Mandrake Software Manager GUI. I went to this site and it showed me the following: urpmi.addmedia main ftp://raven.cslab.vt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/9.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://raven.cslab.vt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS with ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz urpmi.addmedia --update updates ftp://raven.cslab.vt.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz I don't use urmpi, but rather the Mandrake GUI, so I added these directly to the Software Sources Manager. Then I went into Install Software, and searched for gaim - no hits. Why aren't I seeing gaim 0.70? Do I need to uninstall 0.68 first? If you have nort done so then declare sources for updates, plf, and contrib too. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FireBird and ThunderBird Interaction
Michael Lothian wrote: Hmm I'm trying to get Thunderbird to open links in Firebird (currently they dpn't do nything when clicked) Anyone know how to do this? Switch to Windows. Links work in Thunderbird there, but unfortunately not in Linux. Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] synching with exchange server
Boulytchev, Vasiliy wrote: Ladies and Gents, Previously on the list, I was forwarded to a Novell Groupwise Client. I am not so sure thats what I need. All I need is a good Linux client to connect to my exchange server to synch up calendar, contacts. Evolution has an add-on to connect to an Exchange server. Not free, though. THANKS! Vasiliy Boulytchev Colorado Information Technologies, Inc. http://www.coinfotech.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] synching with exchange server
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Tuesday 30 September 2003 12:04 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: Boulytchev, Vasiliy wrote: Ladies and Gents, Previously on the list, I was forwarded to a Novell Groupwise Client. I am not so sure thats what I need. All I need is a good Linux client to connect to my exchange server to synch up calendar, contacts. Evolution has an add-on to connect to an Exchange server. Not free, though. I have a copy of that. You have to run it at the server level, IIRC. It does not really allow a client to connect directly to Exchange, acts more like an interface between Evolution and the Exchange Server. It also requires permissions, again IIRC, so you would have to have administrator approval before being able to run it. Otherwise, I would be. I haven't used it, so you may be right. My reading of the blurb about it on the Ximian site, though, is that it works using Outlook Web Access. If your Exchange is already set up for that, then the Evolution connector *should* work without further server configuration. But as I said, I never used it, so I very well could be misinterpreting what they are saying. I think they have a free trial period, so if I get motivated enough, I'll download it and see if I can get it to work, since my employer does have OWA already set up. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Intel |Unveils
I might take a bit of this last one up with you Tom, that be there Winblows thinking... about SMP anyway. I promise there is a marked difference between an SMP machine doing anything in MDK-Linux, and the same machine with out 2 cpus. in Winblows, including W2kp, and XP, if they ain't special SMP aware apps, there ain't no value, but in MDK, everything (when really loading up the box) is faster SMP. the visual difference is roughly the same as going from 128 meg ram to 256 meg ram, as UP vs SMP Sorry, jumping in on this thread late. The above is just routine anti-Microsoft chestbeating. I use both Win2k/XP and Linux, like to think of myself as platform-neutral. Both have strengths and weaknesses. The assertion that Win2k/XP do not take advantage of a second CPU except for rare SMP-specific applications is just plain false. The scheduler in 2k/XP is actually pretty good about exploiting the 2nd CPU even for things as simple as the console. I got my first dual CPU board on a whim when I fried my motherboard, and I'll never go back to a single CPU system - and I run no apps that were specifically written for SMP. Even on my lowly dual 233MMX (waiting for the workstation Opteron boards), Win2k is very responsive about bringing new apps to the foreground. That's what SMP brings to a general desktop - responsiveness. Even if you have some long running process you just started, clicking on some other window will produce immediate action. On a single CPU, such a context switch might take a second or two. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 X server startup/shutdown slow - ReiserFS?
Guy Rouillier wrote: (Not quoting anyone so I can pull the discussion back where I need it...) Ok, so I *should* be okay with ReiserFS on my root partition and ext2 on /boot. So how do I go about figuring out why KDE takes forever to start up X (and never puts up the desktop icons) and gnome can't seem to shut it down (logout five times, eventually (60+ seconds later) I get the logout dialog)? I've looked in ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/X.log.0 (whatever the name is - not on that machine at the moment) and I don't see anything obvious.) I have no trouble running X apps once I'm in. Well, I seem to have found a way to make it happy. Under KDE, for some reason, it installed itself with desktop icons unchecked. I checked this, it immediately showed two icons. Now when I startx into KDE, it no longer shows the clock icon for a couple minutes. To fix gnome, I (1) disabled acpi and (2) turned off auto detection of my Ethernet connection. Don't know which one did the trick, but now when I select the logout menu item, I immediately get the log out dialog. Who knows. One last question. When my keyboard is idle, I hear disk activity about every 10 seconds. Is this normal with ReiserFS? I don't remember hearing this with ext2. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 X server startup/shutdown slow - ReiserFS?
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 16:34, Guy Rouillier wrote: Guy Rouillier wrote: (Not quoting anyone so I can pull the discussion back where I need it...) Ok, so I *should* be okay with ReiserFS on my root partition and ext2 on /boot. So how do I go about figuring out why KDE takes forever to start up X (and never puts up the desktop icons) and gnome can't seem to shut it down (logout five times, eventually (60+ seconds later) I get the logout dialog)? I've looked in ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/X.log.0 (whatever the name is - not on that machine at the moment) and I don't see anything obvious.) I have no trouble running X apps once I'm in. Well, I seem to have found a way to make it happy. Under KDE, for some reason, it installed itself with desktop icons unchecked. I checked this, it immediately showed two icons. Now when I startx into KDE, it no longer shows the clock icon for a couple minutes. To fix gnome, I (1) disabled acpi and (2) turned off auto detection of my Ethernet connection. Don't know which one did the trick, but now when I select the logout menu item, I immediately get the log out dialog. Who knows. One last question. When my keyboard is idle, I hear disk activity about every 10 seconds. Is this normal with ReiserFS? I don't remember hearing this with ext2. Are you logging in as root - because KDE and Gnome will default to NO icons - very bare - the idea being that no one should be operating the system as root anyways... ...just wondering... Yes I was (for setup purposes.) Gnome actually was showing icons, KDE wasn't. If KDE elects not to show icons, it shouldn't then get hung up if they aren't there. Oh, well, everything seems to be fine now (and no, I do not log in as root to do normal work.) -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 X server startup/shutdown slow - ReiserFS?
(Not quoting anyone so I can pull the discussion back where I need it...) Ok, so I *should* be okay with ReiserFS on my root partition and ext2 on /boot. So how do I go about figuring out why KDE takes forever to start up X (and never puts up the desktop icons) and gnome can't seem to shut it down (logout five times, eventually (60+ seconds later) I get the logout dialog)? I've looked in ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/X.log.0 (whatever the name is - not on that machine at the moment) and I don't see anything obvious.) I have no trouble running X apps once I'm in. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 9.1 X server startup/shutdown slow - ReiserFS?
System Commander trashed my hard disk when I attempted to resize my Win2K NTFS partition, so I'm forced to reinstall everything, including Linux on that same drive. This time around, I decided to try out ReiserFS as my root file system. During setup, I configured boot options, but after doing so, the installation program never returned. I rebooted and used drakxconf to install my X server. When I start up X in KDE, it starts up very slowly, and actually never puts up the desktop icons. The cursor remains a clock for several *minutes*, but the system is not locked. I can log off of KDE (back to the boot up terminal session) without a problem. If I start up gnome, it starts up okay, including all the desktop icons. But when I try to log off, it won't. I try to log off about 5 times in a row. Eventually, something will get it to put up the log off dialog. Could this be ReiserFS doing this? Should I switch back to ext2? I played around with XFS in a different installation on this same hardware, and it didn't appear to have any issues (other than the fact that it defaults to read-only.) Thanks for all advice. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 X server startup/shutdown slow - ReiserFS?
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday September 2 2003 09:23 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Tom, What is the reason you make /boot ext3? I do everything reiserfs is this wrong? Thanks, Tony. Because Civileme told me too ;) If you don't know, Civileme was a Mandrake employee who use to be a regular on this list. His job was QA, and as part of that he did extensive file system testing. He recommended XFS or ReiserFS, but cautioned that /boot should be on an ext3 partition. I never did understand exactly why tho, I just trusted his advice. Strange, your original reply hasn't got through to me yet, but Tony's reply to it and your reply to him did. So I'm replying here... I didn't think it relevant but I do indeed have a separate partition for /boot that is 100 MB, formatted ext2. I have a single swap partition that is 500 MB. That should be okay, right? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ssh and run gui apps
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: L.V.Gandhi wrote: I can do remote login using ssh to another host and do cl jobs. But how to login with gui and run gui apps? I do it with my wife's computer all the time. Once connected-- just start the program from the CL as you would do so locally. Want to start Mozilla? Type in mozilla. Want to start xmms? Type in xmms. You get the picture. In order for that to work, a couple things have to happen: (1) the host you are connecting to has to be configured to allow X11 forwarding. This is set up in the sshd config file in /etc (sorry, I'm having system trouble at the moment and don't have it installed, but I think it is called sshd_config.) The default value is no, i.e., do not allow X tunneling. (2) you need to make your ssh connection so as to request X forwarding. With the Linux ssh client, this is done with ssh -X -l userid host. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing on a SCSI system
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 16:41, Erylon Hines wrote: You shouldn't need to make any changes in the SCSI bios. All changes should be made in the system bios--I've done a lot of SCSI installations, and I've never reset the SCSI bios. The first thing I would try is turning off Well, that is not true for Buslogic (nee Mylex) controllers, at least the one I have (BT-948C.) There is a setting in there for bootable CD-ROM, and it must be enabled in order to boot from a CD **if the CD-ROM is SCSI**. Obviously, if the CD-ROM is IDE, this won't matter. In my case, I have a SCSI CD-ROM. The reason is that if the CD-ROM is SCSI attached, the motherboard doesn't know about it, only the SCSI controller does. booting from SCSI and Harddisk in my system bios, choosing CDROM, Floppy, Zip, or whatever. Then try it again. If that works, don't forget to turn it on again at first boot, after install. If that doesn't work, I would make a boot floppy and try starting the install that way. Last, there is always the hard disk install (I have had to do that once, but the system was ide, not scsi). On Friday 25 July 2003 11:54 am, Miark wrote: I have 8.2 on my gateway/firewall machine. I'd like 9.1 on there, but the damn thing won't boot to the CD. If I go into the SCSI bios and monkey with it that the drive is basically hidden, I can boot to CD; but because the hard drive is hidden, I can't install! The comp's bios is set to boot from CD first, but the SCSI always takes over. How do I exit this loop? Miark __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Install Probs on old Compaq
I got Sig 7 on an old Pentium 90 with 48 MB of RAM. Fell back to RedHat 7.1 and it installs and runs fine. Though it still messes up on X configuration - creates a version 4 config file then tries to run it with version 3.3.6. Don't know how it does this, because 7.1 came out long before X v4. JoeHill wrote: Gots me here a Compaq (shudder) Pentium 200, no CD. So I mosey on over and get a network install disk and it works up to the point where it detects the NIC, fine, asks for DHCP, yup, loads the LAN info fine, ie. gateway, DNS, get's an IP, etc. Then when it comes to bringing up interface, it signal 11s, install exited abnormally (duh). the logs show the successful loading of the NIC drivers, etc., then receiver lock-up bug exists -- enabling workaround. it goes through some checks, passes all, then says: receiver lock-up workaround activated. then nada. This is with an Intel Etherexpress Pro/100b NIC. With the 3Com 100BaseTX (Cyclone), go through the same process, only the kernel messages are different, it signal 11s right after: scatter/gather enabled. h/w ckecksums enabled are both NICs just no good, or is there something else I can eliminate first? I replaced the cable, just to be sure. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'M A COMPLETE IDIOT - SHOT ME!
Rosario Balboa wrote: Just following instructions: http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/mandrake/ unfortunately, couldn't install MS Outlook Express. Now my question: If by any chance you add an echo to your .bashrc like this: echo inside .bashrc and other in .bash_profile, echo inside .bash_profile you will get the echo from .bashrc, but never the one from .bash_profile. OK, following someone's comment from the UNABLE TO UPDATE THE PATH VARIABLE I copied .bash_profile into .bashrc 'cause one is executed when login in and the other every time a term is open. Well, you will get a nice crash in your account not being unable lo loggin in anymore. Does anybody understand why this happen? Besides, does anybody know a good place to learn the insides of the bash shell? man bash is a good place to start. Then there are references on the web and books. If you copied *all* of .bash_profile into .bashrc, you are probably getting a recursion problem, because the default .bash_profile includes .bashrc. Thanks, Rosario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'M A COMPLETE IDIOT - SHOT ME!
JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:22:34 -0400 Rosario Balboa [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: not being unable lo loggin in anymore. I'm not sure what you mean here, but I would imagine that there is something in the .bash_profile which is incompatible in .bashrc. as you noted, .bashrc is run when you log in, if there is something generating an error, you may not be able to login. My reading of the man pages for bash is that .bash_profile is run when you login (referred to as a login shell, and .bashrc is run in every other shell interactive shell. I think that is why .bashrc is explicitly invoked inside .bash_profile - because it is not automatically run in the login shell. is there some way you could post your current .bashrc? cheers! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Should I upgrade some or all?
Margot wrote: I'm using Mandrake 9.0, still very much a newbie, feeling my way round gently, getting used to the Linux way of doing things after many years of software from the company whose name shall not be mentioned! I'd like to use newer versions of OpenOffice and Mozilla. In your opinion, which would be easier for a very inexperienced newbie - keep the Mandrake 9.0 that I'm (almost) used to and just upgrade Mozilla and OpenOffice, or upgrade to Mandrake 9.1 as a new instal with the newer Moz and OO included? Don't know about OO, but as far as Mozilla is concerned, I wouldn't let that be a determining factor. Mozilla development moves pretty fast, and any Linux release is inevitably behind. Just go to the Mozilla site and download what you want. Personally, I like the new separated single-purpose browser (Firebird) and email client (Thunderbird). Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4
Mike wrote: I guess I don't need Mozilla now, but I do look forward to 1.5 when Firebird and Thunderbird will be incorporated. What do you mean by incorporated? My understanding was that this split into separate standalone browser and email client was a permanent thing. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Thunderbird and browser, was IMAP trouble (Evolution)
Todd Slater wrote: On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:27:41PM -0400, Guy Rouillier wrote: Todd Slater wrote: So at work I have an IMAP (Groupwise) account. I can open, read, and send with Mozilla, Thunderbird and Kmail. When I try to add the account with Sylpheed I get a segfault. I remember problems with Sylpheed and IMAP but I left the Sylpheed list so I'll go back and investigate. Thing is, I don't really want to use Mozilla or Kmail, and Thunderbird won't work yet as it can't send URL's to a browser. Todd, I don't understand what you are saying here. I've been using Thunderbird from the Minotaur days, currently running a nightly build from 5/31/2003 on Windows and on Linux. After reading your message, I clicked the Write button and typed myself a message, containing only a URL. All my mail is set to go out in text format, and I didn't do anything to the link I typed to force it to be a hyperlink. When that message arrived, the URL was automatically hyperlinked. I clicked it and it opened up my default browser (a featured selling point of Thunderbird, that it brings up your default browser instead of always bringing up Mozilla. Heck, here is the link I typed by hand, see if it hyperlinks for you: http://www.2cpu.com Note that this link is not **showing** as a hyperlink as I'm typing, but it is parsed as a hyperlink when it is received. Guy, maybe they removed this functionality? I wanted to check what version I have (I thought it was a recent nightly) before answering: I'm using one from 6/18/2003. There is no place to specify a browser to use in the options. I thought maybe I didn't have the BROWSER variable set, so I did an export BROWSER=/usr/local/bin/dillo and restarted Thunderbird, still no joy. Does your build have an option to specify browser, or does it just take it from the BROWSER environment variable? Excuse me for a minute while I wipe this egg off my face... there, that's better, I can see the screen again. By searching the bugs list for Mozilla Thunderbird, I found a reference to the todo list here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/todolist.html which says this: We need a linux guru to implement nsIExternalProtocolService::loadUrl for linux. Without this, we don't load http urls (and other non mail urls) in the default browser like we should. I'm not sure what the OS integration hooks are for Linux to implement this routine. It problable depends on the desktop environment being used? (Bryner might have something for this for gnome) And no, it does *not* work for me, even though my BROWSER variable is set. It works in Windows, and everything *else* about Thunderbird in Linux works like the Windows version, so I made an erroneous assumption. My humble apologies, Todd. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IMAP trouble (Evolution)
Todd Slater wrote: So at work I have an IMAP (Groupwise) account. I can open, read, and send with Mozilla, Thunderbird and Kmail. When I try to add the account with Sylpheed I get a segfault. I remember problems with Sylpheed and IMAP but I left the Sylpheed list so I'll go back and investigate. Thing is, I don't really want to use Mozilla or Kmail, and Thunderbird won't work yet as it can't send URL's to a browser. Todd, I don't understand what you are saying here. I've been using Thunderbird from the Minotaur days, currently running a nightly build from 5/31/2003 on Windows and on Linux. After reading your message, I clicked the Write button and typed myself a message, containing only a URL. All my mail is set to go out in text format, and I didn't do anything to the link I typed to force it to be a hyperlink. When that message arrived, the URL was automatically hyperlinked. I clicked it and it opened up my default browser (a featured selling point of Thunderbird, that it brings up your default browser instead of always bringing up Mozilla. Heck, here is the link I typed by hand, see if it hyperlinks for you: http://www.2cpu.com Note that this link is not **showing** as a hyperlink as I'm typing, but it is parsed as a hyperlink when it is received. I've actually stopped using Evolution on Linux and use Thunderbird there now also. I use IMAP, and Thunderbird doesn't seem to have as many problems with it as Evolution. Don't mean to start a jihad - Evolution is fine product - I'll probably try again with 1.4. It is actually faster that Thunderbird. My major problem with Thunderbird is that on my old dual Pentium 233MMX, it is pretty slow. So I tried Evolution yet again (I keep giving it a chance) and it can open and read my folders and mail, but there is no text in the summary window (no from, subject, or date, just a picture of an envelope so I know there are mail messages there). Pretty weird. Have you seen this problem in evolution before? Or I'll be satisfied with a decent, lightweight gui IMAP mail client. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake and VM Ware
Kenneth E. Spress wrote: Alright Now.. Thanks to Andrei for his kind help, I have Vmware and Mandrake Running in a windows xp box (yuck) we know. My question is now that I have this how can i either a.) import media from a NTFS file structure into the Mandrake file structure and what is the best media player to use for Mandrake 8.2 What is option b.)? Don't know if this will work within VmWare - my hardware is not good enough to run it. But from plain old Linux, you can mount the NTFS partition (read-only!) and just copy what you want. Does that not work under VmWare? Thanks Kenneth E. Spress [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RUID # 0462790 Interested in a user friendly ISP that costs less Try ACN Internet http://www.acninc.net/dialuplocations.asp?details=us http://www.acninc.net/innerwindow.asp?theurl=signupinfo.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newer versions of the kernel for 9.1
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday June 9 2003 11:03 am, eric huff wrote: Just curious: What exactly is different about the mm (multimedia, right?) kernel? eric For most users, more advanced/better supermount and the low latency and preempt patches. The cooker ready made rpm should have no problems on older releases. One of the rare times cooker is suitable in this regard. Latest is 2.4.21-0.18mm-mdk on cooker /contrib (RPM2) mirrors. Ok, finally got around to this. Tried to install the mm kernel off the cooker mirror on 9.1, and it failed saying it needed shorewall = 1.3.14-1mdk. So then I downloaded the plain old 2.4.21-0.18mdksmp kernel from one of the regular mirrors (raven.cslab.vt.edu) and installed that. It installed okay, but upon rebooting, I'm still getting the ldm_validate_partition_table messages. So it looks like this version of the kernel does not fix this problem, unfortunately. BTW, I unplugged the USB flash card reader while I was installing the kernel. Was that the correct thing to do? Should I even bother with the mm kernel, or would I get the same result from that? Another strange thing I noticed is that after installing the 18 kernel, in /boot/grub/menu.lst, both the linux-smp entry and the 2421-18smp entry point to version 18 (the former because all the symbolic links were changed to point to 18.) So now there are two sets of SMP entries pointing to 18, and none pointing to 13. This seems like a bug to me. Or is this working as designed? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HTML on Mailing list
Aron Smith wrote: I Found this site that not only gives the reasons not to use HTML but also how to turn it off even if you use (ugh)AOL And that site would be? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newer versions of the kernel for 9.1
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 09 Jun 2003 1:02 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 08 June 2003 11:46 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: Where can I find later versions of the kernel for 9.1? I'm experiencing the ldm_validate_partition_table problem. I've looked on both pbone and rpmfind and neither of them appears to have new versions. pbone actually did have one a couple months ago (which unfortunately did not solve the problem), but now I can't find one there. Thanks. BTW, I searched MandrakeClub and didn't find anything there either. There has not been an official kernal update for 9.1 yet. You would have to try and build your own, or you could also try the Cooker kernel. If you do try the cookwe kernel, make sure you install it without removing your old kernel so you can boot back to it if stuff desn't work. Youcould try the mm kernel (it's on the disks). Why are you wanting this, though? The ldm_validate_partition_table problem only refers to the fact that there isn't a disk in a removable drive - it's harmless. Or is there something else? Thanks all for the replies. I tried a 16 kernel that I had found on pbone, but it does not fix the problem. According to https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=930 this fix is only in versions 17 and later. Anne, you are correct in that this appears to be a nuisance only, and not a malfunction. But it is enough of a nuisance that I'd like to fix it. It causes about a 30-second pause (old hardware 233 MHz dual Pentium MMX) in multiple places during boot-up, then another similar pause when I log on. I'll try Greg's suggestion and see if I can get a later kernel from cooker. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
