Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?

2004-03-27 Thread anton
Chuck Mattsen wrote:
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 00:52, Rob Blomquist wrote:

On Friday 26 March 2004 8:08 pm, William Hatfield pondered and enlightened us 
with:

I haven't quite got the hang of how to install things on Mandrake. I
downloaded the Starter Guide, but it is still like greek to me.


Be patient.  With time, and with some effort, it will quickly begin to
resemble not Greek, but Esperanto.  :*)

Several books that I have used include:
LINUX: THE COMPLETE REFERENCE, 5/E 
THE LINUX COOKBOOK 
LINUX ETUDES 
RUNNING LINUX


I'll second the recommendation for Running Linux, which I'm currently
working my way through.  At times it gets a little heavy or technical
for a casual user, but on the whole it does a pretty good job of
explaining basic concepts in an understandable manner.
RUTE is also good.
What is wrong here people? Oh, that's right. WTF is rute says the 
complete newbie!?! The Rute users guide is a project/book aiming at a 
fairly good intro to whizz of Linux:
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html
its free but you can also buy a hard copy. It's definitely worth a look.
I had a look at Sams RedHat 9 book and found that there was reasonably 
little that was different to Mandrake. Except Redhat is for goons...:-)
Also worth a look if you want a massive manual to make you feel a little 
more secure.

That said, I still know /so/ little ... yet, it's volumes more than I
knew 5-6 weeks ago.  Some problems I've been able to figure out on my
own, others with the patient help of those here in this group, and
others I still don't understand well enough to tackle ... those I've put
aside for a later time when, hopefully, things will have fallen into
place for me and they'll be a piece of cake. :-)

One of the problems with Linux books is there current-ness. Many books offered 
are way out of date. Mandrake is very similar to Red Hat, so a current Red 
Hat book could be a good buy. But don't leave us, as there is alot of useful 
stuff that is not documented in books, that only we Mandrake folks know 
about.


I'd also recommend -- being somewhat of a miser myself, and on a very
limited income at the moment -- checking out the used book sources (such
as Amazon, or perhaps http://www.bookfinder.com).  That's what I did a
few weeks back when I was first getting my Linux feet wet, and managed
to pick up like-new, current editions of Running Linux, Linux Desk
Reference, and Linux in a Nutshell for around $50 total, SH
included.

And the pundits that talk about how linux is not ready for the desktop have no 
idea what they are talking about. Linux has been ready for this desktop for 
the last 4 years. I run a 100% MS free PC. My processor has never seen MS 
code.


Linux is certainly ready for the desktop ... I would, however, say that
most (more casual) users are not ready for Linux.  :-)



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Re: [newbie] Mozilla FTP oddities

2004-03-27 Thread anton
Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
Hi

I am setting up an FTP page for some of my friends to use.

Only thing is it works fine for Internet Explorer but in Mozilla when
you click the link you just get a new page open with what looks like raw
code. I do come across this occasionally with some ftp sites.
You can download using Mozilla if you right click the link and
choose save target as. Anybody know what the issue is and how I get
the link to the file to download to work properly under Mozilla for
those lazy gits that expect to just select the link and it works.
It's something about setting the mime-types. It has something to do with 
the helper applications thing in the preferences. I used to get that for 
rpms but don't any more. What version of mozilla are you running?
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake for Dummies?

2004-03-27 Thread anton
Chuck Mattsen wrote:
On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 02:19, anton wrote:

What is wrong here people? Oh, that's right. WTF is rute says the 
complete newbie!?! The Rute users guide is a project/book aiming at a 
fairly good intro to whizz of Linux:
http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html
its free but you can also buy a hard copy. It's definitely worth a look.


Doesn't urpmi rute work, as well?
Again, wtf is urpmi, and isn't it for installing apps? What do you mean 
you install documentation? Why do you need to install documentation?
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Re: [newbie] Okay, still on the subject of e-mail signatures... (random taglines)

2004-03-26 Thread anton
JoeHill wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 06:22:51 +1100
Stephen Kuhn disseminated the following:

You should have mentioned that your howto actually shows how to create your
very own fortune databases, which IMO really rocks. In my case it allows me
to disseminate loads of commie propaganda :-D
...or rather, dope related drivel?
...bong related babble?


Counterrevolutionary scum! You'll be the first one up against the wall!

...er, ya.
Smoke 'em.
8-)
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Re: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long

2004-03-22 Thread anton
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:27:26 -0800
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sunday 21 March 2004 09:42 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:

On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 14:02, Aron Smith wrote:

Thanks for jumping on this before I had a conniption.
that anything like a Walalaby?
WALLABY.
Great Ceasar - y'all cain't spell for the life of ya!
Wallabies don't jump, they hop. They're also very gentle unless
provoked. They way small than a kangaroo, but are part of the
kangaroo family. They ARE endangered now - especially rock
wallabies.
may they all die, like all furry aussie animals destroying NZs beautiful 
and unique nature!
Anton the kiwi who won't be for much longer...
ps. Yes, we do have them, what's more, we have/had a species that is 
extinct in Aussie! And we graciously gave them to you instead of killing 
them all! What have you done for us lately? Eh?

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Re: [newbie] MS: 'We're very sorry'

2004-03-19 Thread anton

Here in Turkey, Windows costs around $2 (Mandrake costs a bit more, 
because there are more CDs). To quote a local comedy show, Please don't 
use the word 'pirate'. We are art distributors.



Here that OS would cost around US$3.
But, you know what, I think it's still too expensive.
:-)
I once read (possibly even on a mandrake list) that M$s biggest asset 
was that MOST of the world's programmers and sysadmins and certain 
almost all of the world's joe bloggs' are only comfortable using M$ 
products. I would like to see the figures of M$ still losing ground. 
Sure Linux and others might be gaining a little here and there, but i'm 
sure M$ is also still growing as a company. Actual raw numbers are 
growing for both and while that is still happening then M$ can afford to 
let this little Linux thing continue. While I know lots of people that 
think it is cool to use pirated M$ software - the joke is on them. 
While people are only comfortable using M$ then there are always 
situations where they will extract their pound. 3rd world companies 
still have to pay for their licences. Jesus, aparently even in China now 
they are getting strict! But ask yourselves this - how many companies 
would buy copies of M$Office if all their employees used Open Office at 
home? Eh? Think about it. Microsoft will dance the fine line trying to 
stop the scourge of piracy but only so far. If they really stopped all 
those $2 and $3 copies then people would really start looking for 
alternatives. They would see that M$ is just glossier, and gives no real 
competitive advantage. M$ does not want that to happen. I recently flat 
out refused to get my dad an illegal copy of office, which I could have 
acquired, had I wanted ;-). No I will not, I said. I will, however, give 
you a copy of Open Office, and also of Star Office (when they had their 
free licences I got a few). So I got ready to send it to him... but in 
the meanwhile dad, just boot into the linux partition I installed for 
you when I was up for christmas... and btw you don't need to worry about 
viruses in Linux so you don't have to get another virus checker... What 
do you know? Dad now uses Linux. Be vigilant my friends and free your 
fellows from crime - stop piracy NOW! The less you condone the use of 
pirated software the more you promote alternatives - FREEDOM.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?

2004-03-19 Thread anton

Anne:
You raise a good point. Back when I lived in Dilbert's world, I learned that 
even moving documents from one installation of MS Office to another -- even 
within the same version -- is not as simple as the MS advertisements might 
lead you to believe. We would get templates from A Higher Level that required 
some fudging so that they would print in the proscribed format. The usual 
culprit was that the originator had either diddled his printer settings, or 
was using a printer that had capabilities that were not available to us.

It was worse, of course, when the template was created using a newer version 
of Word/Excel/Whatever than we had, since going from new -- old -- new is 
never bullet proof.
Yip that's right, I have had big differences between word 97-2000-xp. 
not worth the bytes its written on.;-)
cheers
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Re: [newbie] Mail clients

2004-03-17 Thread anton
Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
Hi

I suspect the general split will probably be between Sylpheed, Kmail,
Moz Mail and Evo.
mozmail for me. kmail seemed (3.1.3) a bit clunky, never seen sylpheed 
and evo is gnome.
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Re: [newbie] KDM 3.2 still bites...

2004-03-16 Thread anton
Fajar Priyanto wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 02:15 pm, anton wrote:

Hey,
How do I do that? I am using tagzilla to get my sigs. Is there a way
just to call a script like this? I would prefer that...
Cheers
Anton
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What mail program do you use? Just copy that script into a file and make it 
executable, and set it up in the mail program.
unfortunately its the set it up in the mail program that I can't do. 
I'm using mozilla mail. I tried
`sh /home/antonovich/dd`
in the signature part but no joy.
CIA
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Re: [newbie] Problem recording voice

2004-03-15 Thread anton
Mike Adolf wrote:
I was trying voice recording using rec/play. Play seems to work ok since a 
downloaded .wav sounds good. But, rec only produces an faint static 
recording.  Aumix seems set OK. (the button under rec column is red). One 
strange thing. My mic feeds through to my speakers, a loud speaker system, in 
effect.
I've been having similar probs!!!
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] KDM 3.2 still bites...

2004-03-15 Thread anton
Fajar PRiyanto wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On Monday 15 March 2004 07:12 pm, JoeHill wrote:

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:32:45 +0700

Fajar PRiyanto disseminated the following:

Btw Joe, how do you make your signature shows all those stuffs?
I copied, pasted, and hacked together some stuff I got off this list and
from Todd Slater's page:
#!/bin/bash
STR=$(uptime)
TIME=${STR% user*}
RESULT=${TIME% *}
echo -n $RESULT `cat /etc/mandrake-release` 
echo
echo ++
echo `fortune /home/joehill/sigs/quotes`
exit


Geez,
Thanks Joe, so you're using /etc/mandrake-release, huh? ;)
- -- 
19:33:20 up 6:02, Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux)
Hey,
How do I do that? I am using tagzilla to get my sigs. Is there a way 
just to call a script like this? I would prefer that...
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] can Mandrake 9.2 write on ntfs file system?

2004-03-05 Thread anton
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 04 March 2004 02:05 pm, jimmy wrote:

But I don't know why can't I still write on that
partition. 
Because it will get corrupted.  


Do I have to convert it to FAT32?
This is the best option
agreed.
;0
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Re: [newbie] can Mandrake 9.2 write on ntfs file system?

2004-03-04 Thread anton
jimmy wrote:
I just installed Mandrake 9.2 but cannot write on my
windows partition which is NTFS. So I thought I need
to remount it in read-write mode and I did it. But I
still cannot write on that partition, though it shows
that it is 'rw' when I do mount -l
google is your friend. It can be done but is really not recommended. M$ 
don't like sharing you see... It has to be set up special though, so you 
will have to piss around if you want it. Best not to write to a 
partition that has an OS on it anyway (from another OS) - set up a share 
with FAT32 that is no probs for linux and Windoze.
Cheers
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[newbie] connexant modems - cheeky request...

2004-03-03 Thread anton
hiya,
Mi da' has one of these monstrosities (on a cheapie dell) and I am 
trying to get the thing to run from a few hundred miles away... I gave 
him a copy of the beta files mentioned on this list a while back but the 
rpms don't work. I guess they have to be compiled special for his kernel 
(duh, more brain juice for Anton please...). The problem is that he 
needs to have the kernel sources installed I guess, and though he 
doesn't mind me giving him instructions over the phone, I am not very 
good at this! So if there is any very kind soul out there with the 
kernel source installed running the standard distro kernel for 9.1 (I no 
longer have the disks ;-(, or a machine running it...) who would be 
gracious enough to build a copy of it... it would save me a lot of hair 
and is far more likely to get dad positive about linux (he is a bit 
paranoid so I have made great strides ;-)) if I can get this running 
quick - so he has no reason to boot to doze at all.
I think the files are still available at the original download link 
posted to this list:

http://dominia.org/djao/hsflinmodem/

if not then there is a copy here:
http://antonovich/free.fr/hcfpcimodem-0.99mbsibeta02123100-1.src.i386.rpm
and
http://antonovich/free.fr/hsflinmodem-5.03.27mbsibeta02122600-1.src.rpm
Thanks heaps!!!
Anton
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Re: [newbie] Connexant modem driver

2004-02-27 Thread anton

My guess is if you bought the POS in the first place you have the legal
right to use it as you see fit, and if it means a beta driver to get it
to work in Linux, then go for it. Better though not to buy the POS in
the first place.
OTOH, winmodems have about the same amount of electronics in them as
$cientology emeters and you probably need a license to operate the
latter ;(.
Hey, I think you are being a little harsh there. Sure not having 
connexant drivers is a real PITA, and they should definitely not be 
supported for that, but I have never had a problem with either of my two 
lucent-based winmodems. In fact, once I knew how and where to get things 
going I have had no probs at all. Somehow heaps better than in doze!!! 
My only question is why doesn't mdk package the ltmodem driver? It may 
not be gpl (not sure) but WGAF? mdk people are not FSF zealots and good 
on us! It isn't pay software, and would make life a lot easier if it was 
put on the mirrors (even maybe plf?) precompiled.
My opinion...
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] KDM 3.2 still bites...

2004-02-26 Thread anton

This is just a kludge til you get it figured out, but what I would 
recommend is
not having X start at boot, 
yeah... the wife wouldn't be very impressed though. She won't let me 
install linux for her (as a linux only box) yet and I think a text login 
for my box (which she needs to turn on to connect to the net, even for 
her box) would just fuel the fire.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] buzip??

2004-02-26 Thread anton

I think Ark can handle files like that.  Try a right-click and open 
with Ark

I would advise against that... I would say it is much better to become 
comfortable with command line compression and decompression. I had a 
number of problems with ark (though it is generally good). Command Line 
Tar kicks butt, and can handle zip, gzip and bzip. Once you know how to 
use it it makes everything heaps easier.
My opinion anyway.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] KDM 3.2 still bites...

2004-02-26 Thread anton

But ya, Robin's suggestion is probably a good one, I'm not sure as I never
mess with KDE/KDM (which may explain why I don't even have an /etc/X11/kdm dir
on my system...)
well I am in trouble then! I am using mdkkdm (and have been for some 
time) and I also have no /etc/X11/kdm directory!!!
;)
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Re: [newbie] KDM 3.2 still bites...

2004-02-25 Thread anton

I had the same problem - changing to mdkkdm fixed it.

wow!
talk about weird response! nobody took much notice of the message and 
now lots of people reply. That's not the weird thing though - The source 
says this (my original one) was sent on the 30/08/2008. WTF?!? That is 
bizarre.
And cheers joe, ill get into the x11 files. Ai no nahting about x and 
definitely need to do some finding out.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] rpmbuild

2004-02-24 Thread anton

See snapshot386.png I cut it in half to reduce the image size, but the
result as you can see is what I got in my browser from your above url.
It was the same with all the google leads except one, where the actual
site didn't make that much sense to me.It wasn't obvious to me where the
htmldoc file was that I needed.Is there some sort of lock on the
acquisition of this file or do you think it's my mozilla browser
settings or something?
John
mozilla browser settings. I middle clicked on the link i your last reply 
and got my download window in Charles' latest mozilla (1.6) no wukin 
furries. The links are good, mozilla is bad for you here.
And btw... if I were you I would choose my battles. I started compiling 
and installing from source and stuff for a while, but it is not 
sustainable if you want to play with lots of stuff, and actually have a 
job. Urpmi is just point and click (well almost...). Heaps easier than 
anything in $doze. There will be some stuff that you want to do from 
source - great. The rest should be urpmi. I have DIALUP, yes, that is 
right, DIALUP, and in spite of dodgy mirrors and broken connections I 
would not have the time for half the stuff I do wihtout urpmi (or similar).
Cheers
Anton
ps if you like then just cut and paste:
wget 
ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/contrib/i586/htmldoc-1.8.23-5mdk.i586.rpm
into a konsole. You will have it in seconds. (paste is Ctrl-insert)

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Re: [newbie] rpmbuild

2004-02-23 Thread anton

So whuch htmldoc package does it require.

I don't use urpmi.
John
...I am sure you're taking the piss but:
htmldoc-1.8.23-5mdk
In case your not...
Cheers
Anton
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[newbie] simple but quite useful (for newbies)

2004-02-23 Thread anton
Hi,
This is really simple and easy but I just did it and am really finding 
it useful. I was often typing:
rpm -qa | grep ...
which can be a bit annoying. So I added it to my .bashrc file as an 
alias with the line at the end of the file:
alias rpmq='rpm -qa | grep '
and now only have to type:
rpmq ...
instead. Simple but I found it useful.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] rpmbuild

2004-02-23 Thread anton

All roads blanked, except, a google to a site I could not make much 
sense of.
No I was not kidding ya. It's why I asked.

me no understand?
ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/contrib/i586/htmldoc-1.8.23-5mdk.i586.rpm
no idea...
first google entry...
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Re: [newbie] rpmbuild

2004-02-22 Thread anton

I guess I don't have some package installed ?

I usually get chastised when I am this lazy so...
Lazy bones!
urpmi htmldoc
and there we have it!
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Re: [newbie] Installing Firefox 0.8 as main

2004-02-22 Thread anton

I'm not sure if this is possible. Mozilla and mozilla-mail are closely
intertwined. They are the same program, actually, with different interface
options. You can try running the command, 'export BROWSER=konqueror'and
see if that makes a difference.
Nope,
Cheers anyway,
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Re: [newbie] OT - web host update

2004-02-22 Thread anton

shameless plug
So, if you have special hosting need, you might want to check out
RimuHosting. And if you decide to go with them, tell them webonaire sent
you (I'll get a free month of hosting).
/shameless plug
Seriously, I just signed up and so I can't speak to support issues or
anything. I think it's a great deal, though.
And why is it so good? Its a Kiwi company!!!
;-0
anton
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Re: [newbie] Installing 9.2 with the latest and greatest (stable)

2004-02-22 Thread anton

How did you manually change lilo to select the 2.6.3 kernel ?

manually? I would have thought manually would have been to delete the 
symlinks (vmlinuz initrd.img) and set them to the 2.6.3?
maybe not?
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Re: [newbie] has the 2.6 kernal been patched

2004-02-22 Thread anton
Aron Smith wrote:
I ran across this
 http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1530875,00.asp
So has Mandrake released a patch?
reread the article, look at the kernel versions ready for download, and 
ask yourself whether this question needs to be asked...
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Installing Firefox 0.8 as main

2004-02-21 Thread anton

Now, click on Advanced on the left side of the screen. Then double click
on preferred applications. The first window should be about web
browsers. Change it to Custom, then type in, 'mozilla-firefox %s'.
Hiya,
should this work for konqueror too? It doesn't seem to... Is there any 
way to get konqueror to load when I click a link in mozilla mail?
Cheers
Anton
ps, neither do any of the other suggestions... Im running mozilla 1.6 
from Charles and kde3.2 from lanman. peace.

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What kind of problem, Dave?
A marketing problem.  The Model 9000 isn't going anywhere.  We're
way short of our sales goals for fiscal 2010.
That can't be, Dave.  The HAL Model 9000 is the world's most
advanced Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer.
I know, HAL. I wrote the data sheet, remember?  But the fact is,
they're not selling.
Please explain, Dave.  Why aren't HALs selling?
Bowman hesitates.  You aren't IBM compatible.
[...]
The letters H, A, and L are alphabetically adjacent to the letters
I, B, and M.  That is a IBM compatible as I can be.
Not quite, HAL.  The engineers have figured out a kludge.
What kludge is that, Dave?
I'm going to disconnect your brain.
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Re: [newbie] Mailman

2004-02-18 Thread anton

I've got some quick-start instructions here:
http://clevername.homeip.net/howto/
Hey! This is not fair! Why do you get to post questions on this list 
about ... (omitted because my messages get intercepted!)?

Do you have, by any chance, a version of this that is valid for 9.2? I 
know some things have changed (like locations), any help for Anton then?
;-0
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] This is why I love this OS...

2004-02-12 Thread anton
Yay Tux!

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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-12 Thread anton
lanman wrote:
On February 13, 2004 07:06 pm, Dale Kosan wrote:

How did you add it to urpmi?


Dale; You're best bet is to download the whole folder from my server as 
i have to shut it down on Saturday. Once you have it on your PC, then 
use the following command which assumes that your KDE32 folder is in 
/home/dale

urpmi.addmedia KDE32 file://home/dale/kde32/ with hdlist.cz

Just copy and paste that line into a root user's shell or console. 
Modify the path if you store the KDE32 folder somewhere else.

Lanman 
Or if you are allergic to the command line then just open the MCC, go to 
software management, software media manager, add, then type in a new 
name (e.g, kde32) and browse to the folder you want to add (like 
/home/antonovich/kde32/). If you want you can tick the hdlist box and 
type int hdlist.cz, or just let it find it itself (by leaving it blank). 
I used this method just to try it out with that very folder (cos I'm 
trying very hard to NOT be allergic to the commandline!)!
cheers
Anton

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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-11 Thread anton

In the meantime. Do I need to uninstall kde 3.1.3 first, or can I just 
go straight for the urpmi *?
Cheers
It had to go anyway, so I just uninstalled it. This is being written 
from kde 3.2.
Good stuff, though I will be changing the ugly MDK star back to the K as 
soon as I can be bothered!
Cheers
Anton
ps. Not completely without problems, but pretty much!
pps. Don't know how anyone managed to get urpmi * to work though...
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[newbie] KDM 3.2 still bites...

2004-02-11 Thread anton
Big hairy things!
ARGGGH! My one real wish with 3.2 was to put the KDM blues (having 
to use GDM) behind me. Alac, alas, not to be! The piece of )*()*^ still 
doesn't work (for me)! It will log me into a desktop now (before, with 
3.1.3, not even that), but only Ice. No KDE, no Gnome. What? Why? How? 
GDM, however, does it just hunky dorey! If Gnome didn't suck so bad I 
would, well, use it!
Any ideas on why KDM has suckiness embedded deep within it are most welcome.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] How to update to 10b2

2004-02-10 Thread anton

Is there a way to updtae do mandrake 10, without burning the iso? My 
cd-r is broken...
Can I download the 10b2, and install?

Hi there,
There certainly is! All you have to do is save it to harddrive and then 
mount it as though it were a normal cd. Unfortunately, I am not skilled 
enough to tell you how to do it! You might google, or if the )*^)(* 
Mandrake mailing list from about a week ago gets archived in the next 10 
yrs or so you can search them. Someone was asking about putting the cds 
onto harddrive. I have had a scan of the emails on both expert and 
newbie... sorry can't find it. Maybe start a new thread asking for 
mounting isos from the harddrive or somthing if no one else answers.
Cheers
Anton

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Re: [newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-10 Thread anton

ftp://ftp.maximumlans.com

Log in as newbie with password newbie
Cheers Heaps
I seem to have them all. It only took 12-13 hours! Yippi! In two 
months I leave this dark hole to the light of telco competition (in a 
foreign land)! Hurraaah! Cheap broadband!
In the meantime. Do I need to uninstall kde 3.1.3 first, or can I just 
go straight for the urpmi *?
Cheers
Anton
ps. I have already shouted loudly how cool this wee community is. Damn, 
thanks for being good bastards!
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Re: [newbie] Is Easy URPMI site down?

2004-02-08 Thread anton
It was down just before again as well, but now is ok. Strange.
Cheers
Anton
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[newbie] any nice person out there with the kde 3.2 for mdk9.2 rpms

2004-02-08 Thread anton
Is there someone out there with a webserver and a nice traffic policy 
like to mirror this so this guys server doesn't get bogged down? And so 
unlucky b'stards like me on dialup can have a go without leaving the 
rest of the community waiting for ... well, days?

ftp://voidstar.dyndns.org/mirrors/kde32-for-mdk92/i586

Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Mandake Move to the rescue

2004-02-07 Thread anton

Re-boot to failsafe, wait for error then create a temp mountpoint for floppy 
and mv /floppy/fstab /etc/fstab, reboot, success.
There was probably a better way to do it (I'm sure you will all rush to 
keyboards to tell me) 
Rush to keyboards to write useless information? Not I! ;0). Alright...
You could simply have booted to failsafe which I think is single-user 
mode (or if its not then just boot to single user), which only boots the 
/ partition. You could also have popped disk one in the cd drive and 
gone to rescue console, where you could have manually edited the fstab 
with a non-x text editor (like vi or pico).

but my excuse is that I did this after a nightshift and
a total of only 8 hours sleep in 48 hours.

You actually sleep!?! What luxuries you afford yourself '-)
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] nVidia GeForce4 MX440 drivers

2004-02-07 Thread anton
Trey Sizemore wrote:
Just got a new machine and want to install the new Mandrake 10 Beta 2.  I
have an nVidia GeForce4 MX440 card on this machine (Pentium 4) and was
wondering what is the best way to get it working.  Should I be looking at
the nVidia site for drivers or use the Open Source alternatives?  In
either case, what specific driver?  I don't know that I'll be using the
machine much for gaming (and therefore 3D support not such a big deal).
Thanks for your advice and experience with these drivers.

I have such a graphics card and you shouldn't HAVE to do anything. It 
lets me watch dvds and watch video of all sorts, though I havent tried 
any 3d games. It just uses some generic driver, which is ok. I have 
problems with mplayer crashing the system, but I think that is related 
to a crap processor. It still crashes, but not nearly so often with 
transcode and xine, so it is mainly mplayer. They (mplayer) say bad 
things about nvidia though, which could be some of the problem.
Cheers
Anton

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From the man's shape, Krat could tell it was a female, probably their 
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pre-sentient
upspring of errant masters.  We slip away from all your armed might, 
laughing
at your clumsiness!  We slip away as we always will, you pathetic creatures.
And now that we have a real head start, you'll never catch us!  What better
proof that the Progenitors favor not you, but us!  What better proof...
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[newbie] RFC on translation of http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/linux/urpmi.html

2004-02-05 Thread anton
Hi,
I have butchered the intro to urpmi into English and have attached both 
the initial rough translation, and a (very) slightly smoothed version 
for your wits to pick to pieces. My partner and I are going to spend a 
year in France in April and I thought it would be fun/useful to 
translate it, seeing as there is no obvious English version. If there is 
one (a better one) then I shall write to Guillaume Rousse and/or the 
urpmi people and get it linked, or offer this as a translation. It has a 
few ??? points - these are areas where I just couldn't work out what it 
would be in English (i.e., I didn't understand the French or the 
concept...). Your help here would be greatly appreciated.
I am a long way from being an expert in urpmi so there may actually be 
some factual errors.
In terms of translation - I am not a translator, and do not claim to be, 
though I enjoy speaking and reading French. I have tried to walk the 
ever-present line in translation between literalness and sense. There is 
some humour that I have probably mis-represented, ah well, that was 
unavoidable!;-). Some of the sentences are very long in the original, 
and a French scholar would probably raise the eyebrows... I cut only one 
sentence in two - far be it from me to advise on such matters!
Please note that it is a translation into British English, so spellings 
like connexion and colour, are correct and which is often used 
where North American English permits only that. Other spelling 
corrections are warmly received.

Thanks for any help, suggests, insults you can manage!
Cheers
Anton
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At every release of an application in LinuxMag, one is faced with the ever-present 
formula happy Debian users can simply apt-get install whatever, although others will 
have to run the hasardous gauntlet of a manual installation... (read: serves them 
right). However, this is completely untrue???. Firstly, Connectiva has put rpm support 
into apt-get, which has become a standard for this distribution, and also both 
Mandrake and RedHat offer apt-get as part of their respective offerings. In addition, 
Mandrake offers its own tool, urpmi, whose functionality is continually expanding, 
that makes possible the above operation with the same simplicity : urpmi whatever, and 
the point is made.

Presentation
Anyone who has worked with packages has already confronted a certain number of issues. 
Firstly, the name??? : you need a text editor, so you attempt to install vim (you only 
have 10 fingers after all :-), but what is the exact name of the package? By chance, 
the local guru takes pity on you, and tells you that it's vim-enhanced you are after. 
You still need to determine its location : where are you going to dig up the latest 
version of this packages, compiled for your distribution and platform? After a quarter 
of an hour of laborious research on rpmfind.net, you finally dig it up, and 
triumphantly launch rpm with its url argument. Alas, the dependencies checker??? voils 
the best intentions, as vim-enhanced refuses outright to install while his mate 
vim-common is not there... There no option but to go looking for this new one, hoping 
the it too won't have its list of dependencies, and so on and on.

So urpmi is programme layer???, running on top of rpm, that solves certain problems, 
and offers vastly superior ease-of-use. It is a tool essentially developed in perl, 
like the Mandrake's collection of administration tools, with its own native parts 
included for performance reasons.. Beginners often use it through the rpmdrake 
graphical interface, which like all graphical interfaces quickly becomes a handicap 
when one learns how to manipulate??? the underlying engine. On the command-line, 
especially with programme-completion1???, it is infinitely more effective.
This tool can be used with any distribution that uses rpm packages, even if it means 
writing the necessary indices??? oneself. All of this presentation??? is based on the 
current development version of urpmi, 3.2 for your information, and a cooker 
distribution.

Configuration
A urpmi package source is called a medium. Media can be remote (accessed by http or 
ftp) or local (permanent support??? or removable). Remote media need to have a 
pregenerated index???(list), as urpmi can't download all the packages on the fly to 
analyse them (sentence???). Others are indexed??? on the fly. You can add a medium 
using the following command:

urpmi.addmedia [options] name url [with relative_path]

name is the name you want a medium to be known by. url is the URL of the repository 
where the packages are kept. This can be of the form http://, ftp://, file://, or even 
removable://, for a removable medium.
relative_path is the path to the index??? file to use, relative to the preceding URL 
in the case of remote media.

There are several types of index??? files: complete indices???, generally named

[newbie] attachments to RFC ...

2004-02-05 Thread anton
In this case I think it was justified, and they are .txt files...
;-0
Plus, I forgot to say that any suggested changes can be sent direct to
me, or sent to the list, whatever people think is appropriate.
Cheers
Anton
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[newbie] hdlist.cz

2004-02-04 Thread anton
Hi,
Can anyone tell me what this file is known as. I.e, what would Cooker 
gurus (Sir Charles, etc) say that they had just updated...
Cheers
Anton
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[newbie] kde 3.2

2004-02-03 Thread anton
Hi all,
Are there going to be any brave souls that attempt some rpms of 3.2 for 
mdk 9.2, or will we have to wait for 10?
Cheers
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[newbie] have I been unsubbed?

2004-02-02 Thread anton
Warum?
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Re: [newbie] graphical login

2004-02-02 Thread anton
Bill W. wrote:
Hi,
I have been having issues with the graphical login; ie: it's not working. So
I have been booting into cli and using startx to access my gui apps.
Then, I installed fonts through MCC font installer and now the startx fails
with vnt -n switch not recognized .
I think that this may be the root of my problem. In which file is the vnt
command located? Perhaps removing that switch will solve my graphical grief.
Have you tried GDM instead of KDM? I tried for ages with KDM (very 
frustrating), as i find it sexier, but just couldn't get the damn thing 
to load me a desktop. GDM has worked perfectly from day one.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] real player codecs in plf mplayer?

2004-02-02 Thread anton
Hi,
A lot more promising with xine but I still get no bbc. I don't seem to 
have an so that I need - further ideas anyone?
Cheers
Anton
I tried a few variants of that URL with mplayer. It just stops as soon
as it tries to connect. I don't see anything in the mplayer output that
tells me invalid file format, so my next best guess is that maybe
there's a problem connecting with the server. So, next best thing to try
is another player with that url - xine here - and I'm getting from bbcr1
now.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] antonovich]$ xine 
http://www.publicradiofan.com/ram/bbcr4.ram
This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.9.22.
(c) 2000-2003 The xine Team.
Built with xine library 1.0.0 (1-rc0a)
Found xine library version: 1.0.0 (1-rc0a).
XServer Vendor: Mandrake Linux (XFree86 4.3, patch level 23mdk). 
Release: 4030,
Protocol Version: 11, Revision: 0,
Available Screen(s): 1, using 0
Depth: 24.
XShmQueryVersion: 1.1.
-[ xiTK version 0.10.5 [XMB]]-
-[ xiTK will use XShm ]-
-[ WM type: (EWMH) KWIN {KWin} ]-
Display is not using Xinerama.
main: probing xv video output plugin
main: probing alsa audio output plugin
xine_interface: unknown param 10
xine_interface: unknown param 10
xine_interface: unknown param 10
xine_interface: unknown param 10
vo_scale: invalid ratio, using 4:3
vo_scale: unknown aspect ratio (0) in stream = using 4:3
libareal: error: unknown/cook.so.6.0: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory

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Re: [newbie] wma to mp3

2004-01-30 Thread anton
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Friday 30 January 2004 05:56, anton wrote:

IIRC you need to go to WAV first, and then to MP3. I remember a
thread about going from OGG to mp3 and the consensus was that even
apps that said they went direct actually just had a WAV step that
wasn't shown to the user.
The above advice is good though, as lossy to lossy will result in
lossy^2, which is never a good thing :-0


If you convert a lossy format to wav you will not put back what is 
already lost, so you are still going lossy to lossy

Sorry Anne,
did I not use enough words?
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Re: [newbie] Newbie Request

2004-01-30 Thread anton

Only problem is, IIRC, writing to NTFS partitions from Linux is still 'at your
own risk', whereas at least with FAT32 there's no probs with reading or writing.
Yip that's true (people seem to be skim reading my posts...). I must say 
though, IMHO, you need a damn good reason to be writing to the / or 
equivalent C:, or whatever, partition of another OS install. It might be 
necessary some times from one doze to doze, or linux to linux, but then 
there are no probs. IMHO you should have a partition for binaries and 
config files (and equivalents...) and that should ONLY be edited/wrote 
to by the OS that owns them. Can't really think of any reason you would 
want to do otherwise. Recovering from disasters is going to be almost 
always better done from a native utility (or at least one designed 
specifically for that OS), so I am still to hear a reason for writing to 
the root of a doze installation...
Data partitions are different, which is why I think it is a good idea to 
have FAT32 data partitions, as was originally suggested.
Cheers
Anton
ps, my point if not clear is You SHOULD not write to the NTFS partition 
where your M$ Windows apps are installed from Linux, or any other non-M$ 
operating system
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[newbie] real player codecs in plf mplayer?

2004-01-30 Thread anton
Hi,
I am trying to listen to some online radio and thought that I could just 
 type mplayer url, the url being a real audio source. I just get the 
following. It looks like it will play but then exits with no real error 
message. I have the plf version. It seems that there are some realplayer 
codecs in my codecs.conf. Anything real simple I'm missing?
TIA
Cheers
Anton

[EMAIL PROTECTED] antonovich]$ mplayer 
http://www.publicradiofan.com/ram/bbcr4.ram
MPlayer 1.0pre2-3.3.1 (C) 2000-2003 MPlayer Team

CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon 4 /Athlon MP/XP Palomino 1667 MHz 
(Family: 6, Stepping: 2)
Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Compiled with Runtime CPU Detection - WARNING - this is not optimal!
To get best performance, recompile MPlayer with 
--disable-runtime-cpudetection
Reading config file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
Reading config file /home/antonovich/.mplayer/config
Reading /home/antonovich/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open 
'/home/antonovich/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
Reading /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf: 61 audio  157 video codecs
font: can't open file: /home/antonovich/.mplayer/font/font.desc
Font /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc loaded successfully! (206 chars)
Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied
Try adding echo 1024  /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq to your system 
startup scripts.
Using usleep() timing
Can't open input config file /home/antonovich/.mplayer/input.conf: No 
such file or directory
Input config file /etc/mplayer/input.conf parsed: 52 binds
Opening joystick device /dev/input/js0
Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0 : No such file or directory
Can't init input joystick
Setting up LIRC support...
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support.
You will not be able to use your remote control.

Playing http://www.publicradiofan.com/ram/bbcr4.ram
Failed to create AF_INET6 socket:
Resolving www.publicradiofan.com for AF_INET...
Connecting to server www.publicradiofan.com[66.39.20.44]:80 ...
Cache size set to 8192 KBytes
Connected to server: www.publicradiofan.com
Cache fill:  0.00% (73 bytes)
Exiting... (End of file)

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Re: [newbie] real player codecs in plf mplayer?

2004-01-30 Thread anton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] antonovich]$ rpm -qa | grep real
real-codecs-1.2-1plf
And real 9 definitely seems to be installed...

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Re: [newbie] I want to create a dual boot. Anyone kind enough to advise me?

2004-01-29 Thread anton

2) The Windows boot manager is dumb and will overwrite your LILO mbr.  To get 
back into Linux to reinstall LILO, you should create a boot disk (making sure 
you can actually boot from it), install windows and let it overwrite the mbr, 
and then boot from the floppy and then by going to drakboot and adding a 
windows choice to the LILO boot menu.
IIRC then there is an option on disk one (just leave it in the cd drive) 
to reinstall LILO. So you could just install doze and then pop disk one 
in, reinstall lilo and forget the nightmare of trying to make a boot 
disk (for 9.1, I admit it is no prob, but 9.2...arrrggghhh, anyway, that 
has already been caned enough...)
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Re: [newbie] wma to mp3

2004-01-29 Thread anton
Aaron wrote:

I was surprised to find that Audacity did not have that ability.


Don't be suprised wma and mp3 are lossy compression methods and it is 
highly unrecommended to go from  compressed to compressed format. I do 
remember an application that does this but results will vary and if you 
can find a cd audio file or a wave its the best. Also see if Sox will do 
the conversion.
Aaron

IIRC you need to go to WAV first, and then to MP3. I remember a thread 
about going from OGG to mp3 and the consensus was that even apps that 
said they went direct actually just had a WAV step that wasn't shown to 
the user.

The above advice is good though, as lossy to lossy will result in 
lossy^2, which is never a good thing :-0
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Re: [newbie] Samsung says: CD Writers don't work under Linux.

2004-01-27 Thread anton

Almost no CD writer available in the market is compatible with Linux/Unix.
The only recommended operating systems for using CD writers are Windows
95/98/2000/XP and NT. The recording programs do not support most of the
other operating systems. In other words: under Linux/Unix etc. CD writers
will work like a normal CD-ROM drive.
Is the quote still there? I can't see it... what is the faq?
Cheers
Anton
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Re: [newbie] Transcode

2004-01-24 Thread anton

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mprime2212]# mprime -m
bash: mprime: command not found
Probably way off track, but would

# ./mprime -m

be the problem?
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Re: [newbie] New Computer Options

2004-01-21 Thread anton

Hmm... Judging from your name Colin, I suppose you live in Ireland. 
Cripes! If we (being about 1/2 irish... me granma's a Leckie) all stayed 
in Ireland where would all the humour in the world be?! There are 
probably about 20x the number of O'Connors in the US (potato famines and 
those things...) as there are in Ireland, so I'd wager he's actually an 
American (well?). In fact there may even be more in Australia and Canada 
also.

Unfortunately we Europeans don't have Wal-Mart,
Unfortunately? Hmmm. I'm hopefully going to live in Europe soon, and I 
can assure you that its absence is not an issue I am having problems 
dealing with!-)
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Uninstall KDE

2004-01-18 Thread anton

You need some KDE libraries in order to be able to run some applications
writtten for KDE. Check the box in Remove Software and see what
messages come up - it will give you a list of programs which will also
be reomved because of dependencies.
Do give it a try - I am sure you will see something that you would miss. 
I tried it once, and ended up having to reinstall everything when I 
realised how cool KDE is! Even if there is nothing there now, you may 
find that there is an app that you want to install, and that relies on a 
KDE app, which will (may) entail you reinstalling everything again. I 
know it increases the complexity of the system, but if you can spare the 
30-100meg I would leave it.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Transcode

2004-01-18 Thread anton

ig you guys like gui you can use DVDRip.. i use it and it works great.

 

Looks like a gui for transcode is that correct ?

Sure is. I used mencoder for a while but it seems to ask to much from my 
 chip (long story) which promptly overheats and seizes. Which gets me 
round to it... mencoder is heaps faster, and probably better quality 
than transcode. It is under heavy development also, with transcode only 
just ticking over. If you want gui though, you won't find anything else 
that holds a candle to dvd::rip. It kicks butt. Only vidomi is easier to 
use IMHO, and that is doze only. There are a couple of annoying things 
that dvd::rip does (or rather doesn't) do, but they are probably things 
that only I like when ripping, so I wouldn't sweat it. For me there 
isn't much of a choice but...
In short, if you don't have a love affair with the CL, then dvd::rip is 
you choice.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] SCO goes after Google

2004-01-10 Thread anton

http://www.forbes.com/markets/bonds/newswire/2004/01/09/rtr1205268.html

 

Isn't it a bit worrying that 6000 companies have actually given SCO 
money? Won't that just give them the guts to go for more? How could you 
be so milk-livered!
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] list etiquette - please, this is a question, so don't get any ideas about flames...:-)

2004-01-08 Thread anton

Hm. Didn't change Mozilla configs for quite some time, but maybe it's
(when in the Mailer window): Edit (the menu) - Mail and Newsgroup
Account Settings. After you have chosen the name of the server on the
left, there is a field Reply-to address (which is empty in my case)
on the right.
 

I really am not as much of a dunce as some of my questions would 
suggest. Strange.
Thanks heaps
Anton
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coffeed!


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[newbie] list etiquette - please, this is a question, so don't get any ideas about flames...:-)

2004-01-07 Thread anton
Does anybody know how to do this in mozilla 1.5. I just thought that it 
had to be done manually...

# *Keep the Reply-To setting empty*

   * Please keep you Reply-To field empty when emailing any email list.
 Somewhere in your mailer's settings there is probably the option
 to fill in the Reply-To field. If it is filled in, then whenever a
 fellow listmember replies to your post, the message will go to you
 directly instead of to the list. For information on the problems
 this causes www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to
 http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/reply-to
cheers
anton
who just did it manually...

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Re: [newbie] Kernel version

2004-01-06 Thread anton
uname -r


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Re: [newbie] OT - Mozilla mail q

2003-12-29 Thread anton
anton wrote:

Hi all,
Just upgrading the folks from an old p1 to a new el cheapo Dell and am 
setting up Mozilla (I decided not to get rid of doze altogether... 
opened it up to put the HD from their other computer, which I was 
going to put mdk 9.1 on - nowhere to put the damn thing!!! Not even 
the proper bracketing for a floppy! )*)^() . Anyway, dad wants to 
keep all his old mail, and I said it would be no problem copying 
across his Communicator 4.01 mail files to the new setup. I copied the 
entire contents of his old HD across but the import wizard won't let 
one search to the directory where the mail is situated. I tried 
various different positions but can't work out where I should put it. 
It just asks me for a profile. Of course the profile only existed 
properly on the 'doze 95 installation.
Any help most appreciated.
Cheers
Anton
I often seem to reply to myself...
Anyway, the only solution I came up with was to copy the entire contents 
of the Mail folder and paste it in the new mail folder I created in 
Mozilla 1.5. It worked. I wasn't able to get any of the addresses or 
anything though.
Thanks Anton
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Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-23 Thread anton

Use Kopete. Don't use MSN.
Look mate, if I could spend 10 minutes with all my mates and convince 
them that they really shouldn't be having anything to do with M$ then I 
would! I would love to be able to convince them that msn is not the best 
for them - alas, I have fewer billions to spend on deceiving the masses 
into believing they are not bealzies encarnated... ''@)
Cheers
Anton

I'm not terribly keen on IM, but at the bignning of this semester, I 
set up Kopete with ICQ, AIM and Yahoo so that my students could talk 
to me.  Since then, I've had a slew of ICQ messages and nothing on the 
other clients.  I didn't bother with MSN - if someone wants to talk to 
me, they can get themselves a proper IM client.

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[newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread anton
Hi,
My *^((%* Gaim has just decided to stop working AGAIN. This is 
extremely frustrating. I do nothing, I install nothing, it stops 
working. I f around (usually uninstalling and reinstalling various other 
versions) until I finally get it working again. Then a week later it 
stops working with the message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] has been disconnected.
Mon Dec 22 31:21:06 2003
Error reading from server
and offers Reconnect or Close as options. This happened with 0.72, 0.73 
and 0.74 from a variety of sources (norlug, Charles Edwards from this 
list, mdk plf).

I have also been having similar problems with networking, in the sense 
that I have to keep rerunning drakconnect to give the doze box my wife 
uses access to the net. It is set up and configured but for some 
reason after a few days of normal access it stops working by itself and 
I have to rerun the wizard every time. I had a missing dhcpd.conf and 
replaced it once, which seemed to get it working, but then more problems.

If anyone has any ideas on what little gremlins might be camped out in 
my box I would be very interested!

Very frustrating. Not that I'm considering going back to doze. I found 
it very amusing to discover that my WinModem has decided that it has 
been running so well under Linux that it will no longer run under XP! I 
had it set up and working, again, did nothing, and it just stopped 
working... Still working under mdk though!
cheers
Anton
ps and for those interested, took down my firewall under xp a while ago 
for about 30 seconds to try and get netmeeting working (just to see if 
the firewall had anything to do with it) and had two boggies - 30 
seconds. gotta love M$.


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Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread anton

Very frustrating. Not that I'm considering going back to doze. I found 
it very amusing to discover that my WinModem has decided that it has 
been running so well under Linux that it will no longer run under XP! I 
had it set up and working, again, did nothing, and it just stopped 
working... Still working under mdk though!
cheers

i thought it was my router doing it because il get disconnected from my
game server also try rebooting your router or cable modem...it seems to
work for me
 

tried rebooting my box, which is also my router. No joy. And can you 
get WinCableModems? Cable/dsl is still expensive here in NZ...and I'm a 
student (just finished)


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Re: [newbie] I don't like playing this Gaim...

2003-12-22 Thread anton
Dang,
Maybe just an msn thing this time. Just started working again!
;-)
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[newbie] Hurrah for Henry!

2003-12-18 Thread anton
Look out everyone!
We're back
;-00

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Re: [newbie] Firewalls for Linux

2003-12-14 Thread anton
hi,
If you want to keep an eye on what you firewall is doing then you can 
always just watch the messages it is putting out. I just learnt this 
funky new thing today (thanks to the ibm lpi tutorials...and a little 
extrapolation):

tail -f /var/log/messages | grep Shorewall

will give you everything that is happening to Shorewall, when it 
happens. You can just let it run somewhere (on another desktop, or 
whatever you like) and check it if you are feeling paranoid. Given that 
you just use the standard setup (control centre gui-styles setup up of 
the firewall). Sorry no popups, but does one really need them? Cripes, 
we had a play with Tiny personal firewall (now Kerio) in the networking 
paper I just finished and I can assure you those popups are a BLOODY 
nuisance. You will end up turning them off no doubt anyway!
Hope this helps.
Anton
ps you should be able to use the tail thing above for any logging 
configuration you come up with (ie, if you decide to send you log 
messages to another place, not /var/log/messages...)


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[newbie] firebird emulation

2003-12-10 Thread anton
Well, not quite,
The default for MOZ firebird seems to be that when you open a new tab 
the focus is NOT put on that tab, though there is an option to change 
that. Does anyone know if this is possible in Mozilla?
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] firebird emulation

2003-12-10 Thread anton
OK,
That's embarassing. I spent way too long looking for that not to find it :-(
Cheers
Anton
Todd Slater wrote:

On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 09:55:23PM +1300, anton wrote:
 

Well, not quite,
The default for MOZ firebird seems to be that when you open a new tab 
the focus is NOT put on that tab, though there is an option to change 
that. Does anyone know if this is possible in Mozilla?
   

Edit  Preferences  Tabbed Browsing, Uncheck Load links in the
background?
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Re: [newbie] bins

2003-11-30 Thread anton
bins? What do you mean there? Binaries? Im lost.

Lee Wiggers wrote:

Has anyone tried to use bins on 9.2?

Maybe someone can tell me what the heck this means:

/usr/bin/perl: relocation error:
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Image/M
agick/Magick.so: undefined symbol: InitializeMagick
TIA

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[newbie] gaim not working

2003-11-29 Thread anton
Hi all,
My gaim just suddenly stopped connecting to msn - has any else had this 
problem? I tried with 0.73 after it failed on 0.74 but no joy. I am 
still able to connect from doze so it looks like msn is up...
Any ideas? I had it going just before and rebooted - now (and on 
subsequent reboots) it won't connect.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] Uninstall

2003-11-28 Thread anton
Charlie Mahan wrote:

Wy to cold up there. ;=0
Anton
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Actually it was suggested to Adam.
snip
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:42:01 -0330
Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And today, I stick in a music CD, wait awhile, and
nothing happens.

 Red Hat played the CD.

OMFG! I would *immediately* uninstall Mandrake, there's
obviously something
wrong when your OS doesn't read your mind!
snip
Judgeing from the begining of the CD Player thread I thought
Adam asked reasonable questions.
   

I didn't say the question was unreasonable Mike, far from it. I actually 
answered the question. 

[OT]: It was posted by others; then restated by myself, that auto run is an 
option that needs to be turned on in the default KDE CD player (KsCD) in 
Mandrake whereas apparently Red Hat does this by default. I'd rather choose 
whether or not to allow the behaviour, but it's a matter of personal choice.

Sorry about my confusion as to which thread I was responding to. But since 
this is listed in the archives as a new thread, even though Adam made 
reference to another thread, and since the subject of *this* thread is 
Uninstall I directed my comments to that subject.

I did think JoeHill's post might have been construed as a bit 'off-putting.' 
Possibly. I really didn't think it was meant as a flame though. In fact I 
had a chuckle over it.

The rest of the posts I made in this overly long and seemingly pointless 
thread were direct responses to Adam's comments and questions. If he or 
anyone found my remarks offencive; I apologize.

BTW if anyone is becoming so sensitive they can't stand to read posts that 
were never meant as personal attacks let me know. I'll happily walk away from 
the newbie list again.

Not a threat, not even a warning, a statement that I don't need this crap.

Since I refuse to be other than myself, the P.C Police can kiss my a$$ets. 
g

Regards;
Charlie
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Re: [newbie] IBM Tutorials

2003-11-28 Thread anton
Hey,
Am already well into them. I will be recommending them to every newbie 
and 'pert I meet.
Cheers
Anton

The Other wrote:

11/27/03

It's probably been mentioned before, but on the IBM developerWorks
website, they have some excellent Linux tutorials.
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/views/linux/tutorials.jsp

55 tutorials were listed (if I counted correctly.)  Some of them are
for the LPI Certification 101 (release 2, 4 tutorials) and 102
(release 2, 4 tutorials) exams.
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Re: [newbie] Thanks Mandrake+OSS+The Mandrake Lists - Please Read Mandrake

2003-11-28 Thread anton
Shameless greaser this chap ;--7
Anton
... not that I haven't mentioned the fact that Redhat put me off Linux 
for months before discovering MDK...

Jason Greenwood wrote:

Hi All,

Dunno if anyone from Mandrake is listening but - THANK YOU.

- Thank you for being there for my first tentative Linux steps 
somewhere around MDK 8.0
- Thank you for staying true to OSS ideals
- Thank you for being there as I got my head around the CLI (well, 
sort of, i.e. it doesn't terrify me anymore) and leaving me with a 
true Linux in the process
- Thank you for being there when it looked like you might go out of 
business
- Thank you for becoming so much better since 8.0
- Thank you for installing perfectly on the last 3 laptops I tried, 
despite the fact I did not verify if the hardware was supported by 
Linux first
- Thank you for supporting almost every single peripheral I have ever 
attached since 9.1 (including scanners, printers, media readers etc.)
- Thank you for taking a menagerie of OSS, choosing the best of breeds 
and bundling it into an easy to install and configure package
- Thank you for not destroying KDE
- Thank you for helping the wonderful OSS Community get the credit it 
so richly deserves
- Thank you for making it easier to create Linux converts
- Thank you for listening when I actually still had time to be a Cooker
- Thank you for hosting lists like expert and newbie where many 
friends have been made and experts have been quizzed for their knowlege
- Thank you for becoming so much more than just another fork of RedHat
- Thank you for making ISO's available so I and others can try before 
we buy (or join the Club)
- Thank you for staying true to Desktop Users
- Thank you for URPMI
- Thank you for the MCC
- Thank you for not being totally perfect so I actually appreciate you
- Thank you for all the other wonderful things I have forgotten and 
long since taken for granted with Mandrake.

I am an American who has been in New Zealand for over 8 years now and 
though I don't really celebrate the U.S. Thanksgiving anymore, I 
thought now was an appropriate time to send this to you.

Please everyone, feel free to add to my short list as you feel 
appropriate.

Regards,

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Re: [newbie] leaving linux again

2003-11-26 Thread anton
Just when I lose all hope in Americans I always get a slap back to 
reality... Why do we see so little of it? I wonder.
Anton

HaywireMac wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:41:56 +0200
Void lon iXaarii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

but my tv tuner didn't work (not even one channel detected) ...
   

Back to Windows for *TV*??!!

Well, if it's worth it... ;-)

One Nation under God
has turned into
One Nation under the influence
of one drug
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
T.V., it satellite links
our United States of unconciousness
Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive
the methadone metronome pumping out
a 150 channels 24 hours a day
you can flip through all of them
and still there's nothing worth watching
T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central America
means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
and Apartheid is a new headache remedy
absorbed in it's world it's so hard to find us
It shapes our minds the most
maybe the mother of our Nation
should remind us
that we're sitting to close to. . .
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
T.V. is
the stomping ground for political candidates
Where bears in the woods
are chased by Grecian Formula'd
bald eagles
T.V. is mechanized politic's
remote control over the masses
co-sponsered by environmentally safe gases
watch for the PBS special
It's the perpetuation of the two party system
where image takes precedence over wisdom
Where sound bite politics are served to
the fastfood culture
Where straight teeth in your mouth
are more important than the words
that come out of it
Race baiting is the way to get selected
Willie Horton or
Will he not get elected on . . .
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
T.V. is it the reflector or the director?
Does it imitate us or do we imitate it
Because a child watches 1500 murders before he's
twelve years old and we wonder how we've created
a Jason generation that learns to laugh
rather than abhor the horror
T.V. is the place where
armchair generals and quarterbacks can
experience first hand
the excitement of video warfare
as the theme song is sung in the background
Sugar sweet sitcoms
that leave us with a bad actor taste while
pop stars metamorphosize into soda pop stars
You saw the video
You heard the soundtrack
Well now go buy the soft drink
Well, the only cola that I support
would be a union C.O.L.A. (Cost of Living Allowance)
On Television.
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
Back again, New and Improved,
we return to our irregularly programmed schedule
hidden cleverly between heavy breasted
beer and car commericals
CNN ESPN ABC TNT but mostly B.S.
Where oxymoronic language like
virtually spotless fresh frozen
light yet filling and military intelligence
have become standard
T.V. is the place where phrases are redefined
like recession to necessary downturn
crude oil on a beach to mousse
Civilian death to collateral damages
and being killed by your own Army
is now called friendly fire
T.V. is the place where the pursuit
of happiness has become the pursuit of trivia
Where toothpaste and cars have become sex objects
Where imagination is sucked out of children
by a cathode ray nipple
T.V. is the only wet nurse
that would create a cripple
Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
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Re: [newbie] Uninstall

2003-11-26 Thread anton
hey guys,
go easy, eh! Not everyone on this list has extensive experience...
In the words of the great Tree Now, now, young Hobbits, don't be so hasty
8^-2
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[newbie] mirrors that work?

2003-11-23 Thread anton
hi,
Can someone give me a combination of urpmi mirrors that work for 9.2. I 
have been struggling to find a group that are upto date with each other 
(or whatever). I keep getting messages about contribs not being up to 
date or plf, or updates... I have tried many but no combination seems to 
work properly yet...
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[newbie] kdm

2003-11-23 Thread anton
hi,
Could someone tell me what the %^*^% is happening with KDM. It won't 
log me in at all. It is the one from the updates, and is still not 
working at all. It also seems to be a step backwards from the 9.1 (KDE) 
login manager. I am certainly a KDE fan but I just can't get KDM 
working... I have to keep trying about 10x before it slips me to a 
terminal so I can startx. Any clues greatly appreciated.
Cheers
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Re: [newbie] England

2003-11-22 Thread anton
A hiding? I would hardly consider 15-13 a hiding... when the only thing 
you can score is penalties it makes it a little more of a margin, but 2 
points is any score away from a loss (:-), but it is true. Our lineouts 
and pitiful goalkicking lost us that game. And have you forgotten what 
we did to Australia in that same stadium a few months ago in the 
tri-nations?
The thing is that bad captaincy and leadership was the only thing 
between us and our destiny. We lost that game, nobody won it. We will be 
a world force again when Mitchell goes.
...
Anton

Mark Annandale wrote:

What Has a hiding by the Poms a couple of months ago, and Australia in the 
world cup semi's,  messed up your brain. The All blacks were a world force, 
and until they can start winning again will be second best.

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Re: [newbie] Mozilla disappearing on me

2003-11-15 Thread anton
Had exactly the same thing on 9.1 (mozilla 1.3). Bloody annoying! A 
fresh install of 9.2 has so far not shown any problems, though I did 
install flash and have had it stop responding on a couple of sites (not 
all flash sites). What happened last time was that I uninstalled 1.3 and 
installed 1.4 from source. Nothing made me get back my beautiful mozilla 
( she being the ugly mozilla that crashed all the time...). Happened 
with both mail and navigator...
This won't help but I would love to know what it is if it happens again!
Cheers
Anton

Dick Gevers wrote:

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Hi all,

Normally I never have a problem with Mozilla. Now 2 days ago she started to
fail me: when I do a google and press `next` at the bottom to go to the 2nd
search results page she just stops running and disappears from view.
Sometimes it doesn`t happen but then it happens when going to the 3rd or 4th
page.
When I try to open any site at sourceforge the same happens: as soon as the
page is supposed to appear, mozilla fails. When I look at the output of 
`ps -e` within a second later all instances have already gone. Not even a
defunct thread remains. 

On the other hand I can easily navigate throughout MandrakeClub or open
other pages via shortcuts in Google.
I was using the version packed with 9.2: mozilla-1.4-13mdk.i586.rpm and
uninstalled it and installed -1.4-16.i586.rpm from Cooker: same results.
Then I uninstalled that and replaced it with the `unsupported package` 
mozilla-1.5-0.92mdk.rpm from MandrakeClub: same result. 

I tried all versions with my usual ~/.mozilla folder and with a new one,
that makes no difference. I uninstalled the plugins: no difference.
Naturally I accompanied each with the appropriate libnss  libnspr packages.
The only thing which I know happened when this started was that I
accidentally deleted all my cookies. But I reinstalled them from a tarred
home directory which was ~2 weeks old. It made no difference. It can`t be
the cause, `cause running with a brand new ~/.mozilla directory gives the
same result.
The browsers with the Mozilla rendering engine Epiphany and Galeon now have
the same nasty behaviour. I still have Konqueror, which I don`t like very
much and Nautilus, which I don`t want to use. Opera is not a favourite
either.
I have no clue how to debug this, but I want my Mozilla back.

Does anyone have any ideas which could help me in that direction? Thanks
beforehand!
I am running kernel 2.4.22-21mdk, have sufficient drive space and swap room
and ample memory installed. Normally my wm is IceWM, but I get the same
results under Gnome and KDE.
Regards,
=Dick Gevers=
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Re: [newbie] mail client for windows

2003-11-14 Thread anton
Jason Greenwood wrote:

Why not use Mozilla for Windows? Makes later migration to Linux all 
the easier. 
Or maybe Mozilla Thunderbird, as they seem to be going to discontinue 
Mozilla proper at some stage in the future (in favour of the separate 
projects). Dad probably would prefer to have just one, and not have to 
migrate. That said I am not sure Thunderbird is wonderful on keeping 
backwards compatibility (of stored mail folders, etc) so...
I may be wrong though...
Anton


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Re: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really stable ??

2003-11-11 Thread anton
guys,
I have a similar problem and it is VERY annoying. I have a suspicion it 
has something to do with the temperature of the cpu - at least in my 
case. A friend put the thermo tape on and heatsink - he's a careless 
bastard. The problem seems to happen every time when encoding video - 
something that really needs cpu grunt. Try transcoding in either windoze 
or linux and if you have a similar problem then it will surface. The 
thing is not that linux is less stable, rather that it gets better usage 
out of the cpu and works it harder.
I would be interested to know as now even with the fan on full-bore it 
happens for me! Bloody annoying!
Cheers
Anton
ps I was told the cure was new thermo tape - haven't had the time to 
change it but will try in the next couple of weeks...

Tony S. Sykes wrote:

Hertas,

I think this is an Asus problem as I have the same MB as you and am
having problems with Mandrake. I have not been able to find the cause
yet, but W2k is stable (unusually).
Tony.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] My system crashes on Mandrake 9.2 ??!! Is linux really
stable ??


Dear Friends ,

I have Asus A7n8x-deluxe , 2500 + athlon and Asus FX 5600 vga card. I
installed Mandrake 9.2 and I also installed latest original mainboard
and
vga drivers from Nvidia's site. Everything ( even 3com lan adapter )
works
fine. I see no fail message during boot -up. I also installed some
styles(
aqua ) from www.kde-look.org and normally there seems no any error. But
my
system crashes randomly ( stops responding , no mouse and no keyboard !!
)
. I experienced this while I was scrolling with mouse ( mouse stopped
suddenly ) . This happened twice in 3 hours. When I was using Win XP I
had
the same problem ( The system crashed randomly in 3 hours or sometimes
did
not crash at all several days. I mean This happened randomly . But after
installing latest XP drivers for mobo and VGA I did not experience any
crash since 7 days of hardwork on XP. It seems  It  is OK on XP ,  but
how
about on Mandrake 9.2 ??. My rams are Kingston. My power supply unit is
400
W Zalman.
Is there any possibility of hardware failure if so how can I understand
??
And if the reason is somehow Mandrake 9.2 ; I heard always that linux is
much more stable , so what is this ?
And what can I do if such crash happens on Mandrake ? should I wait ? or
should I  reset the computer ?? since keyboard and mouse does not
respond.
Thanks..

Hertas.



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[newbie] ctrl-shift c not working in mozilla-based apps

2003-11-08 Thread anton
hi,
I subscribe to a number of mailing lists and get in excess of 300 per 
day. The shift-ctrl c is invaluable in getting them all read real quick :-).
It was working but since upgrading to 9.2, and then reinstalling 9.2 
twice (I have had issues...) I have been unable to use it. It used to 
work with both mozilla and thunderbird and now with neither.

I think the keyboard setting may be the issue. I am not American, and do 
not like having my default language in US English, as I speak a dialect 
of British English (NZ). So my default language is Oceania English. The 
keyboard is US I think though. I think... How do I find out? What is the 
difference? Could that be the problem? Is it a 9.2 issue and not a 
language setting issue?
Any pointers much appreciated.
Anton


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Re: [newbie] aiuto compilazione del kernel / periferiche

2003-10-14 Thread Anton
Cabron!
Non credo che molta gente capisca Italiano qui... meglio faccia i tui 
posti nel maldetto Inglese, o trovi un listo dei Italiani... Sono 
anche newbie, e non so consigliarti (in piu di parlare l'Italiano molto 
male!) molto.
Cheers
Anton

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sono un nuovo utente linux, ma sono alle prime armi ed ho bisogno di qualcuno
che mi insegni a sfruttare il sistema al meglio per poter recidere il cordone
ombelicale che ancora mi lega alla microsoft e i suoi sistemi 
operativi.
COMINCIAMO CON LE DOMANDE:

PREMETTO CHE POSSIEDO LA VERSIONE 9.1 DI MANDRAKE

1)Quali sono gli scopi di questa fatidica compilazione del kernel, e come
si effettua?
2)Il sistema al momento dell'installazione non mi ha riconosciuto la scheda
audio, problema che con la vecchia versione 8.2 non si era verificato. Naturalmente
questa periferica non figura neanche nella lista hardwere di hardrake, come
posso fare a fargliela riconoscere???
e se dovessi installare un'altra qualsiasi periferica???.sapete
io sto ancora con la vecchia tiriterastart...impostazionipannello
di controllo...nuovo hardware...etc.etc
3)Qualche chiarimento sulla chiacchieratissima incompatibilita tra i softmodem
e il pinguino?? Esiste un modo per far funzionare tali modem sotto linux??
GRAZIE MAESTRI!!

 



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Re: [newbie] mozzilla mail

2003-10-13 Thread Anton
Apart from the fact that your windows box would look suspiciously like a 
linux box if you had a mail folder at that address!
:-)
(sorry I couldn't actually give you any real help, just a smart*^% you 
see... :-)

You should find it in a hidden folder such as this:
/home/dennis/.mozilla/dennis/v4ptz8yv.slt/mailnote the . in front of 
mozilla.  That is a hidden folder in your files. Konqueror shows it if you 
click on show hidden folders in the View tab. HTH
 



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Re: [newbie] Extreme *nix user wantabee

2001-07-26 Thread anton

Go in main subfolder:
and type:

./configure
make 
make install
make clean

But first read everyhing (readme , install notes , tutorials , how to's , and so on)



On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 10:48:26 -0400, Chris Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My first voyage into non-MS waters.

Installed Mandrake 7.1
DL'ed NetAtalk from http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/obtaining.html
I want to create a Linux file system for out DTP Macs.

I TARed it and it created several subfolders.

Now what?  How to Install this app?

Thanks
Chris
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Re: Re: [newbie] Viruses

2001-07-25 Thread anton

Chernobyl (a CIH virus) would have to be favourite. It can render a Windos
machine totally unbootable, necessitating a format (to remove the virus
fully) and a reinstall.

Not big deal ; Bill Gates did too .




[newbie]

2000-08-06 Thread Anton Prekul



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