[newbie] Default Browser.
Hey Folks. I'm having an interesting (read that as strange) event happening. Using KDE's Component Chooser (KDE 3.3.2) I selected Mozilla Firefox as my default browser. For the most part, everything is fine. But when I click on a hyperlink in an email (using Mozilla-Thunderbird which is also set as the default email client in Component Chooser), Konqueror launches, then passes the request over to Firefox. The only 'bug' is that Konqueror stays open after the request has been passed to Firefox. Is there a way to prevent this? If I open hyperlinks in any other program or from any other source (ie; from documents, Howto's or links embedded in applications), Konqueror doesn't even appear. I'd appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction on this. TIA, -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Default Browser.
Rob Blomquist wrote: On Thursday 17 February 2005 5:39 am, Lanman wrote: The only 'bug' is that Konqueror stays open after the request has been passed to Firefox. Is there a way to prevent this? If I open hyperlinks in any other program or from any other source (ie; from documents, Howto's or links embedded in applications), Konqueror doesn't even appear. I'd appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction on this. Check out this site: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/SetMailtoEvent Rob Rob; Thanks but that's not what I'm trying to solve. I've been using that particular fix for a while now. Your suggestion is designed to allow me to open my email client when I click on an email link in a webpage. What I'm trying to do is to open a web-link when it's included in an email. For instance, the link you provided above. When I click on it, Firefox should open and take me to the correct page. In fact, this DOES work, but in the process of opening Firefox, KDE launches Konqueror FIRST, (which shows the web-page link which I had previously clicked on), then it passes the link to Firefox, which also opens the link. The minor problem I'm having is that Konqueror stays open and I'm not so sure that it should be opening in the first place. That's what I'm trying to prevent, or as an alternative, I'd like to have Konqueror close itself after passing the hyperlink to Firefox. Hope that clears up the confusion and Thanks again for trying to help! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 10.1 Web Server - allowing access
Tango Echo wrote: Hi all, After a bit of a break from the Linux world, I'd like to start looking into real world implementations again =). So here's the senario at the moment. I have an old box I'd like use as an experemental intranet server. I installed Mandrake 10.1 w/Apache, ssh, ftp, and webmin. My goal is to have all three remote admin methods available, and to allow certain users to upload web updates via ftp. Install went fine using the Higher security level. However, I am unable to ssh into the box even though the service is running. A quick look into the hosts.deny and it's set for ALL. Changes to this file only seem to be reverted back thanks to msec. Is there an elegant way to enable ssh? Perhaps thru webmin? Thanks, Tango Welcome Back Tango! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] A touch of humour
http://www.strangecosmos.com/content/item/102722.html Enjoy! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Too True!
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Re: [newbie] Laptop Overheating OT
Greg wrote: Hi Everyone I have a HP Pravilian ZE 1230 laptop that is shuting down after it runs for awhile I have found out it is overheating I beleive the cooling fan inside has quit working Is it possible to change the fan and is it hard to change the fans I have built many desktop computers but never been inside a laptop Is there anything I should know I am sorry to post here but I know and trust everyone on this list Thanks Greg Greg; I have the HP Pavilion ZD7000 and even with a P4 CPU it runs hot sometimes. However, AMD CPU's are notorious for running even hotter that Intel P4's. Your problem could simply be that the temp shutdown settings are too low. Try changing the settings in your BIOS - you can access it when booting the laptop. You should see a notice on the screen which tells you which key to press for BIOS access. Have a look at anything related to CPU Temp, Thermal Shutdown or CPU fan monitoring to see if there's a setting you can adjust. Be careful though! Turning off or changing the settings might cause the system to overheat and cause permanent damage! If you need to replace the cooling fan(s), you will have to order the correct fans from HP, assuming that they'll even ship them to you at all. HTH. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nice Howto site
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 10:33 pm, Lanman wrote: Yo, Gang. I just found this site (in Canada of course! Grin!), which has some very nice howto's on configuring a variety of Mandrake services and applications. You might want to have a look. It seems to deal with Mandrake 10.0, but I suspect that many of the howto's will also work with 10.1. Hope it helps. http://www.aerospacesoftware.com/linuxhowtos.html Of course, if everyone already knew about it, then please disregard this email. Thats a pretty handy site Lanman, thanks! :-) Esta Nada Mi Amigo! Feel free to FUBAR as much as you want to guys/gals! Personally, if I had to use the FUBAR howto, I'd rather just re-install. It's less painful and allows me to get rid of unwanted stuff in the process. Of course, I back up my important stuff everyday, just like everyone else on this list, right? *snicker* -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nice Howto site
Julie Sloan wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 05:15 am, et wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 09:16 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 12:48 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 12:32 am, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 02:33 pm, Lanman wrote: http://www.aerospacesoftware.com/linuxhowtos.html I can definatly use the FUBAR how to :-) Is that FUBAR as in Fscked Up Beyond Any Recovery Aron? grin Oh yes ..and I am the EGGspurt at that it's fouled up,here in the bible belt thank you... Wouldn't that be FOWLED up ... sorry ;-) J J - Only if you're into birds! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nice Howto site
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 01:23 pm, Lanman wrote: Personally, if I had to use the FUBAR howto, I'd rather just re-install. It's less painful and allows me to get rid of unwanted stuff in the process. Of course, I back up my important stuff everyday, just like everyone else on this list, right? *snicker* Of course. Didn't you read the requirements before joining these mailing lists? You have to swear that you will do daily backups before even being allowed to post here. Hehehehehe :-) Ronald - Hang on a sec and I'll get right back to you. I wanna back up your email first! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Nice Howto site
Julie Sloan wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 09:58 am, Lanman wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 05:15 am, et wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 09:16 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 12:48 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 04 February 2005 12:32 am, Aron Smith wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 02:33 pm, Lanman wrote: http://www.aerospacesoftware.com/linuxhowtos.html I can definatly use the FUBAR how to :-) Is that FUBAR as in Fscked Up Beyond Any Recovery Aron? grin Oh yes ..and I am the eggspurt at that it's fouled up,here in the bible belt thank you... Wouldn't that be FOWLED up J - Only if you're into birds! Well, I was looking at the EGG spurt four lines up. ;) J No Comment! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Nice Howto site
Yo, Gang. I just found this site (in Canada of course! Grin!), which has some very nice howto's on configuring a variety of Mandrake services and applications. You might want to have a look. It seems to deal with Mandrake 10.0, but I suspect that many of the howto's will also work with 10.1. Hope it helps. http://www.aerospacesoftware.com/linuxhowtos.html Of course, if everyone already knew about it, then please disregard this email. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. Good-boot!
Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 01 February 2005 23:17, Lanman wrote: Hey Folks. I'm wondering if someone can walk me through a few issues regarding booting systems using PXE? Having sorted out my Mandrake menu concerns it works but I still need to test it a few times), I'm now looking at how I can boot new PC's to start the installation process. Any help would be appreciated. Yep I've been through that recently. What do you want to know? Its not too bad once you realise what is happening. snipped derek Thanks Derek. Your explanation makes sense right from the get-go. What I'm hoping to do is to have the new PC connect to the DHCP/PXE server, and once the intial bootup phase is complete, have it access a compressed image file stored on the same server. Once it gets to this step, it would start a network install from the compressed image (cloop or squashfs image) to the new computer. There are many times when I need to do multiple installs at a client's location, so I'd like to be able to bring my laptop onsite as an install server (it definitely has the required horsepower). In some cases, the client's sysadmin would be responsible for doing the installs, in which case he/she needs their own install-server set up. I'm using a compressed image in order to make sure that these admins don't mess with the software packages that I've selected, since I'm ultimately responsible for what happens. Also, I need to find out how to pass installation instructions (parameters?)to the installer. Ideally, it would automatically create and format the partitions (based on a set of rules I've already created). Typically, I discuss software requirements with the client and once we have created a final list of programs, I build the image file and start installing. Using a custom-built LiveCD demo, I show them the finished product before starting the installs. However, I'm getting a lot of requests to start installing Mandrake on existing PC's and not just new ones. Fortunately, a quick replacement of network cards to one that supports PXE solves that problem. So, I guess the next question is how can I accomplish this? I'm finding a lot of info on how to configure PXE, but none of it seems to have a clear (ie; Plan English) explanation on how to do it step-by-step, and nothing I've found shows me how to launch an install command in the process. Any help you might be able to offer would be greatly appreciated. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. Good-boot!
Derek Jennings wrote:
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 13:07, Lanman wrote:
SNIP
So, I guess the next question is how can I accomplish this? I'm finding
a lot of info on how to configure PXE, but none of it seems to have a
clear (ie; Plan English) explanation on how to do it step-by-step, and
nothing I've found shows me how to launch an install command in the
process.
Any help you might be able to offer would be greatly appreciated.
Best show by example.
I use PXE to boot drakTermServ for my MythTV frontend.
Here is my setup
On DHCP server
/etc/dhcpcd.conf
#
server-identifier jennings;
default-lease-time 36000;
max-lease-time 144000;
#ddns-update-style ad-hoc;
ddns-update-style none;
option etherboot-signature code 128 = string;
option kernel-parameters code 129 = text;
not authoritative;
subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0{
range 192.168.1.48 192.168.1.59;
option domain-name localdomain;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.251;
option nis-servers 192.168.1.251;
option lpr-servers 192.168.1.251;
option netbios-name-servers 192.168.1.251;
option routers 192.168.1.251;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option time-servers 192.168.1.251;
}
# Include client machine configurations
include /etc/dhcpd.conf.etherboot.clients;
#
in /etc/dhcpd.conf.etherboot.clients
###
host myth1 {
hardware ethernet 00:40:63:d8:b8:65;
next-server 192.168.1.47;
fixed-address 192.168.1.55;
#type fat;
if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = PXEClient
{
filenamevia-rhine.zimg.pxe;
}
else if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = Etherboot
{
option etherboot-signature E4:45:74:68:00:00;
option kernel-parameters nofloppy ;
filenameboot-via-rhine.2.6.8.1-12mdk.nbi;
}
#hdw_config true;
}
#
Notes:
These two files do not have to be cascaded to together. That is just how
drakTermServ sets it up.
My file checks the MAC address of the client, and if it matches it gives a
fixed IP address and tells the client the IP address of the tftp server
(192.168.1.47) The tftp server can be the same host as the DHCP server if
you like.
When the PXE client connects to the DHCP server it identifies itself as
PXEClient, the server then tells it to get the initial boot file
via-rhine.zimg.pxe. This file has a driver for via-rhine and a bootloader.
drakTermServ created this file for me. Alternatively you could use PXElinux
as an initial bootloader. (http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php)
After loading the bootloader the client will run 'Etherboot' and asks for a
DHCP address again this time identifying itself as Etherboot. This time the
DHCP server tells it to get boot-via-rhine.2.6.8.1-12mdk.nbi which is a
boot image of a 2.6.8.1 kernel with via_rhine driver. drakTermServ created
this image for me. You can create your own images quite easily, but the
method has slipped my mind for the moment.
The tftp server is easy to set up. just install it and put the files to serve
in
/var/lib/tftpboot
I found this article very useful when learning about PXE Its worth reading all
the way through.
http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=5ArticleID=52
HTH
derek
Thanks for the info. I even understood it! Grin! So, if I have this
right, a new PC could boot via PXE, switch to an Etherboot-enabled
system, and then run the commands that I instruct it to launch?
Obviously, that's allowing for a bit of creative license, but
essentially that's the idea? Hmmm. Interesting.
OK, I'll do a bit of investigating and get back to you. Thanks Derek!
Lanman
Registered Linux User #190712
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Re: [newbie] No 192_168_1_1 yet
SnapafunFrank wrote: Brought myself a Linksys WAG54G Gateway/Router and having got the info I need from my ISP decided to give it a go. Basically I get Page not available - or some such when within Mozilla I go for the 192.168.1.1 address. Here's what I've done to date. Using MCCHardwareHardwareEthernetcardRTL-8139Run config toolADSL Connection . I'll stop there because I think something is missing at about this point. [ The dialogue's do take me through to the Congratulation screen, by the way. ] The things MCC offers me are all ADSL stuff that I thought I would need to configure from within the ADSL unit itself - so when did I configure the Ethernet card itself? I remember trying to once before but MCC went on about being sure it was connected to something first? So right now, I am unable to access the ADSL modem - I have the ADSL manual all printed out and ready to 'Rock'n'Roll' , so any suggestions on how to get there would be appreciated. Running Mandrake 10.0 Official, Linux-2.6.3-7, - er... Shorewall is running at present? I have tried with option addresses and without, deleted all connections and did things over - got no idea what it is I'm missing. # lspci SNIP 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) /SNIP My Windows option is WinME and though I have it working OK, it also failed on this same point. Snap - The default address for your Linksys unit is probably 192.168.1.245. Make sure that you have cookies enabled in your browser(s) just in case. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] No 192_168_1_1 yet
SnapafunFrank wrote: Brought myself a Linksys WAG54G Gateway/Router and having got the info I need from my ISP decided to give it a go. Basically I get Page not available - or some such when within Mozilla I go for the 192.168.1.1 address. Here's what I've done to date. Using MCCHardwareHardwareEthernetcardRTL-8139Run config toolADSL Connection . I'll stop there because I think something is missing at about this point. [ The dialogue's do take me through to the Congratulation screen, by the way. ] The things MCC offers me are all ADSL stuff that I thought I would need to configure from within the ADSL unit itself - so when did I configure the Ethernet card itself? I remember trying to once before but MCC went on about being sure it was connected to something first? So right now, I am unable to access the ADSL modem - I have the ADSL manual all printed out and ready to 'Rock'n'Roll' , so any suggestions on how to get there would be appreciated. Running Mandrake 10.0 Official, Linux-2.6.3-7, - er... Shorewall is running at present? I have tried with option addresses and without, deleted all connections and did things over - got no idea what it is I'm missing. # lspci SNIP 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) /SNIP My Windows option is WinME and though I have it working OK, it also failed on this same point. Missed some thing in my last reply. Go back into MCC and forget about the ADSL connection. Instead, set up your Realtek network card for DHCP. Without it, your PC won't see the router and you won't be able to connect. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modifying the KDE menu
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Sorry for taking so long to respond - I kind of forgot about this one. One way you can stop an item from apreaing in the menu is to delete the file for that item in /usr/lib/menu. But when you upgrande the package, it will probably be back. You could try creating an empty menu entry, and see how that works. Now, for some more reading on the topic, you may want to take a look at /usr/share/doc/menu - you will find a lot of information there, including pointers to the /etc/menu and /etc/menu-methods directories. Have fun... Mikkel Thanks Mikkel. I've been experimenting with this for the last week or so, and I'm getting close. I've discovered and experimented with a lot of the files which KDE and Mandrake use to handle the menu and I'm almost done with my mods. Once I'm done, I'm going to save the modified files, do a fresh install, then all the updates, and (Phew!) then copy my modified files back into their proper locations. Hopefully, I'll end up with exactly the same menu and if so, I'll see if I can add it to the Wiki (time allowing). The folders you suggested were helpful in providing clues and also in eliminating files from consideration. Thanks again. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] IP refresh command?
Hugh Crissman wrote: I have searched high and low but can't find the command to refresh my dhcp configured ip address. Often I find myself moving from one network to the next and I don't want to reboot my laptop every time I want to acquire a new ip on the new network. What shell command will do this for me? Thanks, H. Crissman Hugh, you can always use this command service network restart to refresh your network settings. I can only surmise that you're leaving the laptop running while moving from one location or network to another. Enjoy. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
Bill Mudry wrote: At 01:02 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: On Tuesday 01 Feb 2005 16:36, Bill Mudry wrote: This past week I worked on updating my Mandrake box from 10.0 to 10.1. Most of the application programs went well. The change over of the kernel took a bit more coaching for me from another Linux person but I got it to work (as far as I can tell). However, on the X system, all I get is a blue screen. The cursor (a plus sign with white edges) moves around but there are absolutely NO icons on the screen and no keystrokes work at all. This is even after running XFdrake (which did seem to do a bunch of configuring) and checking some things.with mcc at the prompt. The only way I got to a prompt has been through booting on Failsafe. Even another lilo entry of 2.6.3 raced to the blue screen and froze. I have been able to change it so that it now stops at the command line (whew!) so at least the machine can take commands. I still am relatively new to Linux and have a long ways to go. Since my field of specialty is in web work, I cannot work without a proper gui screen and browser. The system worked just fine under 10.0. What recommendations do you have? How long did you wait? I upgraded my daughter's pc to 10.1 from 10 and on bootup, it did the same. I left it for apprx. 10 minutes, then the graphical login appeared. Never did it again, so might just be configuring? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Mandrake 10.1 Microsoft Free I waited for some time actually. There is always some chance that I should have waited longer but I have doubts. Meanwhile, I went back into XFdrake and was able to up the resolution to 1280 x 1024. Its what I prefer anyway. The test showed that the card and monitor (Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17x) can support this resolution. When I put in startx at the prompt, I got an interesting change. The screen went blue again but only for 1 second or so. Then it changed to a bright red with the cursor still in the middle. It stayed that way for a few seconds and then dropped down to the prompt again. The screen reported the following error: Failed to load module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (once-only module, 135962511) Something is still keeping it from proceeding further to where all icons come up. How essential is that file? What does it do? Any further suggestions? Still hopeful :-) Bill Mudry Bill; Change to the vesa driver we spoke about yesterday. You don't have a 3D driver installed at this point and X is trying to load one because it's detecting your GeForce card. Right now, that system doesn't have the horsepower to support 3D graphics, but you should be able to get your desktop and decent graphics using the vesa driver. By the way, did you manage to find out which video card you have in that system? -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Looking for Mr. Good-boot!
Hey Folks. I'm wondering if someone can walk me through a few issues regarding booting systems using PXE? Having sorted out my Mandrake menu concerns it works but I still need to test it a few times), I'm now looking at how I can boot new PC's to start the installation process. Any help would be appreciated. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Frozen blue screen after upgrading kernel
Bill Mudry wrote: At 05:56 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: Bill Mudry wrote: At 01:02 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: Cut for brevity :-) I waited for some time actually. There is always some chance that I should have waited longer but I have doubts. Meanwhile, I went back into XFdrake and was able to up the resolution to 1280 x 1024. Its what I prefer anyway. The test showed that the card and monitor (Mitsubishi Diamond Scan 17x) can support this resolution. When I put in startx at the prompt, I got an interesting change. The screen went blue again but only for 1 second or so. Then it changed to a bright red with the cursor still in the middle. It stayed that way for a few seconds and then dropped down to the prompt again. The screen reported the following error: Failed to load module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (once-only module, 135962511) Something is still keeping it from proceeding further to where all icons come up. How essential is that file? What does it do? Any further suggestions? Still hopeful :-) Bill Mudry Bill; Change to the vesa driver we spoke about yesterday. You don't have a 3D driver installed at this point and X is trying to load one because it's detecting your GeForce card. Right now, that system doesn't have the horsepower to support 3D graphics, but you should be able to get your desktop and decent graphics using the vesa driver. By the way, did you manage to find out which video card you have in that system? The card is an ATI Mach64 3D Rage IIC. It has a Rage IIC chip. It is 1998 vintage. Doesn't that 3D mean that it, instead, should support 3D? Where do I go, what do I do to put it into Vesa? Since this may very well be a 3D card, should I still by trying out Vesa? One step closer, still hopeful ;-) Bill -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 OK, Bill - Thanks for sorting out which card it is. It's possible that your card supports 3D acceleration (it most likely does), but unfortunately Mandrake (and most other downloadable distros of Linux) do not provide the 3D drivers for your graphics card. In order to do that, you would need to download and compile drivers from ATI. It would be a lot simpler to switch over to vesa and at least get a functional desktop before venturing off into 3D land. Log into your system using a shell/terminal/console as root and run XFdrake from the command line. Once it starts, the first option in the list selects your graphics card even though a 3D acceleration driver is not present for it. Scroll up the list until you reach the top (probably called Vendor) and switch to the Xorg list. Once that list opens, scroll down to and select the one called vesa. Once you return to the main menu, select test from the list. If you see the test screen, then everything is good. Once the test exits, go to the Options section in the menu and make sure it's set to start X when the system restarts. That should do it. Still as root in a console, run the command service dm start and you should get your login box. If that doesn't do it, then you might want to consider moving to an older version of Mandrake (ie; 9.2) and doing a fresh install. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hope for mandrake 10.2 include QT 3.3.4
Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 26 January 2005 08:48 pm, Teddy Widhi wrote: Hi, I wish on the next release of Mandrake 10.2 including QT 3.3.4. its the bug fix and backward compatibility for QT 3.3.x. Ok Thank you. Then you should post this message to cooker where the devs hang out, not in newbie where the, well, newbie's hang out. ;) Hey Greg! Speak for yourself, eh? There's nothing on me that's Hangin' Outand I suspect that this is also true for most of the list members! I keep it ALL nicely tucked in, OK? Grin! Snicker! -- Lanman - The Other L-Word! Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modifying the KDE menu
Margot wrote: Did you remember to run update-menus -v as root, after installing or uninstalling software and before running menudrake? Or, update-menus -n if you're not interested in seeing the output, but as you're having problems the -v option would probably be more useful. Also, in menudrake, select Menu Style and choose the Original menus (the bottom option on the list) - I've never managed to get any of the other styles to work! Or, for a more radical solution, abandon KDE, use Xfce instead, and add Trigger Launchers to the panel for the applications that you need to use regularly. Thanks everyone for the suggestions, but I realized this morning that I didn't provide enough information. What I'm attempting to do is to essentially create a stripped down default menu, edited so that ONLY my list of preferred menu items are shown. Also, in the event that someone launched menudrake in the future, the most they would ever get (under any circumstances) would be the new default menu which I had created. I know that there has to be a menu list somewhere, since many of the Linux distributions use their own customized menus, and that's what I'm attempting to do as well. That way, anytime I install Mandrake for anyone, I can use this new menu as the default. So, in essence, I am trying to replace Mandrake's default menu with one of my own creation. Thoughts? Ideas? Inspirations? P.S. - Good Morning Margot! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modifying the KDE menu
Hmmm, Possibly another clue for general consideration; Whenever you add a new user to a Linux powered system, a home folder is created for the new user, at which point, the contents of /etc/skel are copies to the that user's home folder. But that's as far as this process goes. Until the new user actually logs into the system locally, none of the additional folders and files are created. If anyone can help me find the script or command that actually loads or moves a fresh copy of the new users' Desktop and other folders, that script might give me a clue as to where to find the default menu. Thanks again for any help you can offer. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modifying the KDE menu
Hmmm, Looks Like I may have found what I'm looking for. It would seem that Mandrake essentially uses a dynamic menu system, which makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Other ways of getting your menus updated would probably be clunky and cumbersome at best. In order to make life simpler of Mandrake's KDE developers, it would seem that they use a special command (don't know what that command actually is yet) to search /usr/lib/menu for all valid menu entries (valid-menu-entries = installed programs which can be run from a GUI), and those valid entries consist of simple text files with basic information about the program. When you think about it, it's ingenious and simplistically elegant. If you install a new package, and that package is configured to place a file into this folder, then it will be added to the menu automatically. Restarting your desktop, seems to force KDE to check this folder for new files, at which point any new entries are added to the menu. Running MenuDrake accomplishes exactly the same thing. If a menu-config-file exists in /usr/lib/menu for a particular application, that application will automatically be added or re-inserted into the menu. So, the simple way to remove the menu-listing for a particular application, is to remove the menu-config-file for that application from /usr/lib/menu and rerun MenuDrake. Or so it seems. I'm about to test that theory. Will get back to the list after I test this, in case someone else wants to know. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Modifying the KDE menu
Lanman wrote: Hmmm, Looks Like I may have found what I'm looking for. It would seem that Mandrake essentially uses a dynamic menu system, which makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Other ways of getting your menus updated would probably be clunky and cumbersome at best. In order to make life simpler of Mandrake's KDE developers, it would seem that they use a special command (don't know what that command actually is yet) to search /usr/lib/menu for all valid menu entries (valid-menu-entries = installed programs which can be run from a GUI), and those valid entries consist of simple text files with basic information about the program. When you think about it, it's ingenious and simplistically elegant. If you install a new package, and that package is configured to place a file into this folder, then it will be added to the menu automatically. Restarting your desktop, seems to force KDE to check this folder for new files, at which point any new entries are added to the menu. Running MenuDrake accomplishes exactly the same thing. If a menu-config-file exists in /usr/lib/menu for a particular application, that application will automatically be added or re-inserted into the menu. So, the simple way to remove the menu-listing for a particular application, is to remove the menu-config-file for that application from /usr/lib/menu and rerun MenuDrake. Or so it seems. I'm about to test that theory. Will get back to the list after I test this, in case someone else wants to know. Yup! It worked! By removing specific files from /usr/lib/menu, I was able to remove menu entries, and by placing them back I was able to add them back into the menu. Restarting the desktop and/or launching Menudrake did the trick. MenuDrake reads the files in that folder when starting and shows you the menu with all of these config-files included. Saving it before exiting, saves the revised list. So, removing any of the config-files for installed applications and running (and saving) MenuDrake will do the trick. Next problem - Has anyone ever found out why MenuDrake always shows a Chinese icon in it's menu-list? I'd appreciate it if someone could find out why it's always there. Thanks! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Modifying the KDE menu
Hi Gang. I've been trying to find out how to permanently modify the KDE3.2 and 3.3 menus and I'm not getting anywhere. For instance, if I add/delete entries in the KDE menu using menudrake, (selecting the System Menu option), those changes are saved, however, as soon as I re-open menudrake, it reloads the default menu and I have to start all over again. KDE also provides it's own menu editor (kmenu) in KControl, but it does the same thing, except it does it only for the current user. It also reloads the default menu when it's launched again. On the other hand, KDE's kiosktool is a bit more radical than I'd prefer to use. Can someone shed a bit of light on this? I haven't been able to find a way to make my menu changes permanent or in other words how to make my revised menu the default for all users, even after I re-start menudrake. Any help would be appreciated, since I can't seem to find anything on Google that helps. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Anne Wilson wrote: The folder is called kabc and the file is probably std.vcf Anne Julie; Margot asked me to drop in and lend a hand if possible. I've had a quick look at the thread in order to catch up. If I understand things clearly, you were trying to do a 10.0 update, but accidentally did an update using 10.1 sources and now several things are broken. If you're trying to salvage your address book, then Anne is 100% right about the name of the folder and the file (I just finished migrating a corporate client (170 users) over to mozilla-thunderbird a few days ago). Before going any further, I strongly advise that you copy that std.vcf file to a floppy diskette or storage partition on your system. If, in the meantime, you have managed to install rpmdrake, you should be able to call it from a terminal. I wasn't able to see if you have lost your desktop or not, and whether or not you still have other desktops installed. In the meantime, you might want to seriously consider Stephen's advice since you'll never know for sure whether your system will be stable now or not, and if it starts acting up, you also won't know if it's due to this or something else, making any possible fixes very hard to implement. If you have an extra hard drive which can be connected to this computer, or if there's a partition on this system which can be used for storage, try copying your important data there until the system is re-installed. Don't forget to save your .Mail folder as well as your std.vcf file, documents and any other media or data you'd like to save. If you need help setting up a second hard drive on this PC, just holler back to the list or to me off-list. In that case, any relevant info concerning your hard drive(s), the partitions and their sizes and names (a.k.a. mount-points), would be very helpful. As far as the urpmi sources are concerned, try starting with main, updates, plf and contrib sources, skipping the jpackage source for the time being. Hope that helps. I'll be around all day if you need help and it looks like you and I are in the same timezone (Eastern), so that should make it a bit easier. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 22 Jan 2005 12:41, Lanman wrote: Don't forget to save your .Mail folder as well as your std.vcf file, documents and any other media or data you'd like to save. If you need help setting up a second hard drive on this PC, just holler back to the list or to me off-list. In that case, any relevant info concerning your hard drive(s), the partitions and their sizes and names (a.k.a. mount-points), would be very helpful. Just a small addition - if you have mail from an older release (and I think that includes 10.0) you may have both a Mail folder and a .Mail folder. Mail used to be stored in Mail, but for some reason Mandrake's packagers decided to change that to .Mail. If that's so and you have any mail since the 10.1 debacle, you will probably need to save both of them. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Yeah! What she said! Grin! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Julie Sloan wrote: I came to the same conclusion after sleeping on it. Thankfully K3b still works! Ouch! You slept on your hard drive? Didn't that hurt? Grin! thanks, Julie -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 07:38, Julie Sloan wrote: Well, after sleeping on the harddrive I am confusing the two ;) Stephen Kühn wrote: Linux causes you to tear out hair? Are you sure you're not confusing linux with men? Men causing you to tear your hair out I can fully understand, but linux? Nah. Easier to control. Much more so than men. Ask Margot. Difference between a hard drive and a man: * Hard drives retain data (memory) and only forget when you format them. Men, on the other hand, do not retain data (memory) at their discretion and whimsy, and will always remember things at the worst possible moment. * Hard drives do not talk back to you or argue * Hard drives do not watch sports and drink beer. * Hard drives turn on when you want them turned on. Men turn on at the worst possible moments. * Hard drives do not snore. * Hard drives do not purchase expensive sports cars * Hard drives do not chase younger women when they reach the middle of their life spans * Hard drives are easily maintained. Men require far too much maintenance. -- stephen kuhn Damn Stephen! Did you have to list every one of our flaws? There's honesty and then there's Brutal honesty! Nest thing you know, women will be dating their hard drives, Sigh! Well, maybe I can just increase my support contracts instead! Grin! Way to go! Now the secret's out of the bag! snicker -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Julie Sloan wrote: Stephen Kühn wrote: Difference between a hard drive and a man:snip Thanks for the explanation! BTW, sorry for my earlier top-posting, I'd forgotten it is preferable to bottom-post on this list? Julie Kinda like the difference between top-feeding and bottom-feeding, but way different! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Margot wrote: Lanman wrote: Damn Stephen! Did you have to list every one of our flaws? There's honesty and then there's Brutal honesty! Nest thing you know, women will be dating their hard drives, Sigh! Well, maybe I can just increase my support contracts instead! Grin! Way to go! Now the secret's out of the bag! snicker Can I sign up for a 'support contract'? I'm afraid I can't afford to pay in *cash*...but I can't afford a bigger hard drive either! ;-) Done! Your new contract is in the mail! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Paul wrote: On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 23:03, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:42, Julie Sloan wrote: Goats are accepted in lieu of cash, Margot. Pssst, Margot - - my nextdoor neightbors are raising goats and wouldn't miss a couple! J Goat steak, goat stew, goat pie, goat cheese, goat ala mode, goat ala carte, goat burgers, goat kebabs, goat gyros, goat sausages, goat patties, goat casserole...the list goes on. My barbie is primed up and ready. You missed the best - goat curry with rice peas. Great Caesar's Goat! Er, Ghost! This is getting real bad folks! LMAO! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10 to 10.1 upgrade kernel panic
Paul wrote: Still, if I didn't like a challenge I'd be sat in front of a windows box with a noose round my neck. Paul I suppose that's always an option Paul. But knowing the problems you'd have with Windows, why not skip the Windows part and go straight to the noose part! At least it wouldn't be as painful as a noose AND Windows! Or you could stay here and have some fun with us, if you prefer! After all Linux is all about choice and freedom! (Noose NOT required for membership here, only common sense and a willingness to learn and help others - both of which you've already demonstrated, so it's Ok with me if you wanna stick around!) Grin, Snicker! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 07:59, Lanman wrote: Damn Stephen! Did you have to list every one of our flaws? There's honesty and then there's Brutal honesty! Nest thing you know, women will be dating their hard drives, Sigh! Well, maybe I can just increase my support contracts instead! Grin! Way to go! Now the secret's out of the bag! snicker It's Sunday, so since I ain't goin to church, I reckon I should be honest for the day (ONLY for the day, mind you). -- stephen kuhn You just HAD to pick today to be honest, didn't ya. Still, I'm guessing that you won't score a lot of brownie points with the big guy for being honest just for one day, so that's a relief! Nice talking at ya again Stephen. Take Care buddy! BTW, did you ever get rid of that tie you had on your website? Or does it have sentimental value? -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Stephen Kühn wrote: It's quite alright. On THIS list, women are allowed to choose top or bottom. -- stephen kuhn OK, Now! See? That was funny! Especially when taken out of context! Good On Ya Mate! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Stephen Kühn wrote: HAD sentimental value. All gone now. -- stephen kuhn Had? Hmmm. Take Care Stephen. G'Night! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi update, kdebase problems
Margot wrote: Julie Sloan wrote: Margot wrote: First, check what version of kdebase you have installed - if any! Open the Mandrake Control Center, Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:/usr/share/applnk-mdk/System/Configuration/Configure your computer.desktop does not exist. Then, report back here... ok... $ locate kdebase /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdebase-common-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libkdebase4-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libkdebase4-konsole-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk.i586.rpm /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdebase-3.2-apidocs /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdebase-3.2-apidocs/common /usr/share/doc/HTML/en_GB/khelpcenter/userguide/kdebase-apps.docbook /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/desktop_kdebase.mo /usr/lib/menu/simplified/kdebase-basedir ...and then a bunch in the /usr/lib/menu directory Mine says kdebase-3.2.3-134.4.101mdk - yours, if you have one at all, might be different but should be in the same format. On another list you mentioned that you bought the Mandrake CDs last summer - as 10.1 didn't exist then, are the CDs for 10.0? Because you now say you're running 10.1 - did you just install 10.0 from the CDs and then set your urpmi sources for version 10.1? This would account for the huge volume of updates you've been getting, and might also explain some of the problems you've been having. Aha. Yes. Oops. Help? Julie OK Julie, decision time! You have vital parts of Mandrake missing (Mandrake Control Center) as well as vital parts of KDE. You can go one of 2 ways: - Complete reinstall of 10.0 from the CDs (wipe out absolutely everything!), set urpmi sources for 10.0 and end up with a working, fully-updated 10.0 system - this is the easy option! - Continue with 10.1, searching for vital parts and installing them manually, and tweaking the configuration gradually as you go - this will be a lot of hard work, but a good learning experience! Have a think, work out how brave you're feeling, and let us know. You Go Girl! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Hidden partitions
I'm interested in finding out if it's possible to create hidden partitions on a Linux system. Does anyone know if this is possible? I'm toying with the idea of putting an image (ISO or whatever) file on this partition for quick-restores. The image would then only be accessible via a bootable floppy diskette or special CDROM disc. Any ideas? -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Hidden partitions
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Lanman wrote: I'm interested in finding out if it's possible to create hidden partitions on a Linux system. Does anyone know if this is possible? I'm toying with the idea of putting an image (ISO or whatever) file on this partition for quick-restores. The image would then only be accessible via a bootable floppy diskette or special CDROM disc. Any ideas? I guess it depends on what you mean by hidden. If you want a partition that isn't mounted, or onw that Windows will not see, that is no problem. If you want one that Linux will not see, then I think you are out of luck. You could create a partition at the end of the disk, put your image there, and then delete the partition. The information would still be there, and if you re-created the partition again, using the same start and end, the information would be accessable again. But I think you would be better off creating a partition that you don't mount, and using that. Give it a partition type that diskdrake will not try to add to fstab, and you should be all set. (Look at the list in Linux fdisk, and pick something interesting...) You could also add a password protected boot entry for this. That way, if the system is not totaly trashed, you may be able to boot into restore by picking that entry, and giving the correct password. Mikkel Mikkel; Thanks! Sounds like what I'm looking for. Never thought about using a password. A combination of your suggestions might be exactly what the doctor ordered. BTW? Had any takers on your email policy on your website yet? I hope you're rolling in money! Grin! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] KDM 3.2 still bites...
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Saturday 30 August 2008 06:03, anton wrote: Big hairy things! The year is 2008 where you are at? Gee, and I thought daylight savings time was complicated. Can you tell me who won the US World Series in 2005, I got a date with a bookie. ;-} O.J. Simpson? Will Smith? No! No! Jay Leno! Grin! LMAO! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Is this possible?
JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 09:00:20 +1100 Stephen Kühn disseminated the following: I end up ripping movies to AVI to view on my network... Quality is high, speed is good. Your TV has an ethernet port?! You *are* good... Joe; I realise that you were just kidding with this last post, or being a smarta$$, but if Stephen doesn't mind, I'd like to bring you up to speed. First, Stephen was saying that he could view his AVI's on his *network*, which means he could view them on other PC's. However, it is not only possible, but the technology is already available to stream multi-media to TV's and DVR/PVR's via networked set-top boxes. Second, there's a plethora of AGP video cards available (it would seem from your post that they are not available in the GTA however! Grin!), with TV or DVI outputs, which can then be connected to a TV or Plasma Screen. Once that's done, you can connect the sound output from that PC to your stereo or surround-sound system and Voila! You now have a Home Theater which is actually a PC (which may or may not store the media locally). In fact, you should also take a look at Freevo or Freevix so that you can learn about the various HTPC (Home Theater Personal Computer) interfaces which are available for Linux. Hell, even Microsoft has released an add-on for WinBlow$ XP that adds an HTPC interface to a WindowsXP PC to provide all the functionality required. Personally, I use my laptop (HP ZD7000) for just this purpose. It includes SVHS and Surround-Sound outputs which I connect into my home entertainment system. All of this is networked to my server which is currently storing about 200 ripped movies. Really, Joe. You've got to stop spending too much time with your head in that large tub of sand in your living room, Dude! You're missing out on all the fun. While you're at it, you should have a look at the Via Arena site to see how a lot of enthusiasts are connecting Car PC's to their home-media networks by wireless connections to update music and video content as well as weather and map information to their car PC systems. Where ya been hiding for that last year? Kitchener? Etobicoke? Jeesh! *End of Update* -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Putting Microsoft out of business, one PC or Server at a time Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi problem
, your urpmi command will actually look like this; urpmi.addmedia myrpms file:///home/frank/MYRPMS with hdlist.cz Once you've run the genhdlist command (you must already be inside the MYRPMS folder prior to running the command) the hdlist.cz file will also be kept in the same folder, so your urpmi command must reflect this. If the hdlist.cz file ends up somewhere else, you must substitute the new location in the command. HTH's -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS Searchbot
Dan Gordon wrote: On Wednesday 01 December 2004 09:33 pm, JoeHill wrote: Was just following a thread on another list, thought I'd give y'all a heads up that run webservers. Seems this IP: 207.46.98.47 is an MS searchbot that is indexing web pages for its 'Google-killer' search engine. I'm reading a how-to now on .htaccess ;-) So that's whats been hittin me in the firewall lol Seem like they come a few at a time once every day for the last couple of days. Maybe I should add the ip to my blocked list. Naw the firewall is already blocking it. Regards, Dan Gordon Might be a bit simpler and more efficient to simply block the whole subnet! http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl Have fun! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Ethernet ADSL modem
Scott Manning wrote: Hello again; I am in Australia and thinking of just buying an ethernet adsl modem to save the USB set-up hassels. So in an effort to determine what exact models were supported I ran the wizard in KDE. Now here's the thing... it asks you for your provider and Australia is not even listed! :( So what does that mean? I have to go about it from the command line? Secondly, are there any modems that you can recommend using for MDK 10.1? Thanks Scotty You can confirm this with Stephen on the list, but any external ADSL modem that includes one RJ45 connector and supports PPPOE and PPPOA should work, but make sure that the modem has a web-based interface. I've used Linksys, Dlink and GVC. They all work fine, but the GVC has been bullet-proof for me. I highly recommend the GVC BB0060 modem since I've been using it for the last year and a half without a problem, and so have many of my clients. Have a look at http://www.gentek.com -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help requested getting Apache virtual servers going
been used by someone else, so you'll have to come up with another name for that one. Give the registrar your Static IP address which you received from your ISP. Keep in mind that it can take up to 4 days (Max!) for the domain name to be spread to all the main DNS servers around the world. 4) Install webmin/virtualmin as suggested above and set it for the following items - Apache, Postfix, ProFTPD, Bind, etc. 5) Set up your Primary DNS services on your main server and your Secondary DNS services on someone else's DNS server! That's a must! The Secondary server needs to have it's own Static IP address and is more reliable when located somewhere OTHER than your location. 5) Install Apache (I recommend Apache2 for it's improvements, by the way), and set it up for the primary domain (billmudry.com?), and them use VirtualMin for mikewalters.com and any other sites and/or domains you want to run from that server. 6) Once the basic services are set up, VirtualMin will be able to offer some diagnostic assitance and it will be able to simplify your setup and management of the domains you want to host on your server. Hope this helps, but feel free to contact me offlist for extra help if you need it. Your virtual hosts configuration probably won't work because of the real domain names you're trying to use. If the plan is to use real domain names, you're going to have to use something similar to what I've suggested above. Good Luck. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On November 22, 2004 15:38, Lanman wrote: Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: ... Just a wild guess, but it sounds like there might be something in the BIOS or the drive (or something to do with the BIOS/motherboard/drive combination) that's preventing writing to the MBR. Perhaps something intended to prevent boot sector viruses (someone with the Windoze only mindset might have decided that you don't need to ever change the MBR; the same we know best mindset that keeps them from letting you turn off the abs brakes or the air bags in your car, and keeps pilots from taking evasive action in fly-by-wire planes). Try looking for an MBR write protect BIOS setting or drive jumper. Maybe even a motherboard jumper. Or maybe it has some of the new DRM (Denial of your Right to Modify) technology from M$. You might have to go to Redmond on bended knee and kiss Gates' ring for permission to install non-M$ software. Google Trustworthy Computing for details. Ron, Nice try, but I don't DO Windows here at my shop except for clients who are emotionally dependant or otherwise addicted to a lack of imagination. I didn't mean to imply that you would ever dirty your hands with Windoze :^). I just mean that many (most?) hardware manufacturers are so smitten with/cowed by/beholden to M$ that they refuse to even acknowledge the existence of real operating systems such as Linux, and actively participate in the interference with said operating systems. Winmodems are an obvious example of this. No offense taken. Thought you might be teasing anyway, so no harm, no foul. In fact, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was Asus that was in the news recently for breaking the ethernet on their motherboards in a way that makes it only work with Windoze but not with Linux, and responding to complaints with we don't support Linux on our motherboards. I don't think I saw that article, but I recently installed an Asus P4R800-VM motherboard and it was sweet from the get-go. First time that onboard video didn't lag the system down at all. Everything was detected and is running perfectly on that one. The whole Trustworthy Computing initiative is an attempt by M$ and the cooperative hardware manufacturers to make it both illegal and technically impossible to run any OS other than Windoze. They are planning to build strong encryption into hard drives, cd drives, etc., with M$ holding the private keys, to prevent the booting of any other OS. With the DMCA, it will be a criminal act in the US, earning you jail time, to make any attempt to circumvent these controls. Sounds very paranoid and 1984'ish, but it's true. Of course, given their track record building new versions of Windoze, we might never see this in our lifetimes :^) GRRR! I know what you mean and I hope that it never happens. Theoretically this would bring about another DOJ suit against Microsoft, which of course would accomplish little or nothing - again! Speaking of Windows, my new HP ZD7000 laptop (for example),was quickly de-loused using Mandrake 10.1 and except for the typical Winmodem uselessness and a laptop that sucks battery power (due to the Intel P4-3.2Ghz CPU and 17 display) faster than the TGV in France, it's been sweet. Ya gotta love this stuff. I'd rather go without a modem than run Windows. Couldn't agree more. My employer still forces me to work on Windoze, but is sluggishly moving toward Linux desktops (lots of Linux servers). And I had to hold my nose and set up a dual boot of Win98 on one machine, to run one obscure Windoze only app (don't ask), but I unplug the ethernet cable before I boot into it, and I don't allow any new software to be installed on it. I'm thinking about getting a car battery or a Marine battery. That should improve the battery life a bit as long as I can regulate the voltage to the laptop. Sigh! In for a penny, in for a hundred pounds! Don't think it'll fit into my laptop bag though. I'm going to check the owners manual for the motherboard to see if there is a write protect jumper but there's definitely nothing in the BIOS that mentions a boot virus protection option. Only one to allow automatic BIOS Updates and I tried that both on and off to see if it was responsible. Either it's a jumper, it was never there in the first place or Asus forgot to include it in subsequent BIOS updates. As previously mentioned, I am keeping a large hammer nearby in case of emergency or extreme frustration. I can't remember who said this, but if it sticks, force it; if it breaks, it needed fixing anyway. Think that was my Dad. At least that's how he used to fix the reception on our TV a long time ago. Then he got smart - he trained us kids to do it for him! We got real good at clobbering that thing just right! Like the expression goes,...When I was YOUR age, I had to walk all the way across the living room to change channels! Grin! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
Aron Smith wrote: I'm having a similar problem except that the box *had* mandrake 10.0 on it I reformatted the drive (don't ask) and tried to install 10.1 the install terminatesafter i hit enter to install also i lose any input to the screen Aron, The problem is connected to Plug'n'Pray/APIC/ACPI. Try turning them on/off one at a time and restart the install. Also try using the F1 option instead of hitting ENTER, then at the prompt, type this; linux noapic nolapic ENTER Try that each time you make one change to the BIOS settings I mentioned above until it starts the installer normally. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: On November 20, 2004 08:02, Lanman wrote: ... But the fact that something is preventing me from writing to the MBR has me very curious too. This is the first time I've ever seen this at all in about 10 years, and re-doing the BIOS would usually kill any TSR or other virus embedded onto the motherboard. ... If anyone has another idea, please keep them coming. I'll check in once in a while from the jobsite to see what's what (IMAP is a wonderful thing!), since I don't go anywhere without Mr. Laptop! Adios Amigos! Buenos Dias! Just a wild guess, but it sounds like there might be something in the BIOS or the drive (or something to do with the BIOS/motherboard/drive combination) that's preventing writing to the MBR. Perhaps something intended to prevent boot sector viruses (someone with the Windoze only mindset might have decided that you don't need to ever change the MBR; the same we know best mindset that keeps them from letting you turn off the abs brakes or the air bags in your car, and keeps pilots from taking evasive action in fly-by-wire planes). Try looking for an MBR write protect BIOS setting or drive jumper. Maybe even a motherboard jumper. Or maybe it has some of the new DRM (Denial of your Right to Modify) technology from M$. You might have to go to Redmond on bended knee and kiss Gates' ring for permission to install non-M$ software. Google Trustworthy Computing for details. Ron, Nice try, but I don't DO Windows here at my shop except for clients who are emotionally dependant or otherwise addicted to a lack of imagination. Speaking of Windows, my new HP ZD7000 laptop (for example),was quickly de-loused using Mandrake 10.1 and except for the typical Winmodem uselessness and a laptop that sucks battery power (due to the Intel P4-3.2Ghz CPU and 17 display) faster than the TGV in France, it's been sweet. Ya gotta love this stuff. I'd rather go without a modem than run Windows. I'm going to check the owners manual for the motherboard to see if there is a write protect jumper but there's definitely nothing in the BIOS that mentions a boot virus protection option. Only one to allow automatic BIOS Updates and I tried that both on and off to see if it was responsible. Either it's a jumper, it was never there in the first place or Asus forgot to include it in subsequent BIOS updates. As previously mentioned, I am keeping a large hammer nearby in case of emergency or extreme frustration. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Heh, try formating and writing to MBR whilst having the thing perched on the top story window-sill...It's been known too work;) A:\Format C: /fear /s ? OK, Will give it a try. Ya never know! Might be a hidden switch? -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
Thanks everyone for your responses and suggestions so far. I started by taking Fajar's advice about taking a break - and several hours of sleep, one pot of coffee, half a pack of cigarettes and two downloads later, I'm back. I downloaded UltimateBootCD and BootIT and will be trying those later today. For those of you who suggested hardware settings, boot orders and jumper settings, thanks, but all of that was fine. The boot order was CD and the Primary Hard drive (Floppy was not in the list at this point) and the CD disc was removed prior to booting from the hard drive. Running fdisk from either Win98 or Linux didn't solve it, because something is preventing me from writing to the MBR. That's actually what is happening here and I think that I need some sort of Brute-Force MBR writer/formatter. As of my original post, this is the second NEW hard drive to give me this problem (I always have a few new drives lying around), as well as the original drive that started this whole post. So far, the only thing that has had any measure of success was Fajar's suggestion of sleep and coffee (I passed on the jokes because they don't mix well with sleep or coffee! Grin!). I've yet to try HarM's suggestion and/or the tools which I had to download, but those are next on my list. But ultimately so far, something is preventing me from writing to the MBR at all. That's the only consistent thing that's happening here - my inability to write to or update the MBR. Since this will be a fresh install once it's working again, I'm not concerned about 'borking' the drive, so as long as these new tools don't hose any other parts in the system, I'm not worried about any damage that can happen to the drives. My supplier has a decent RMA policy and I know he'll take them back on Over the Counter Exchange from me (He's my brother-in-law) because he doesn't want to face the Wrath of Mom this Sunday! The only reason that I'm suspecting the motherboard is because the very first drive I had in this system ended up with disk errors, and then this problem appeared. The M/Board doesn't have any mention of BIOS anti-virus protection which has been typical with Asus. Add to that the fact that the BIOS usually warns you if something tries to write to the boot sector of the drive and I haven't seen anything like that with this board. But the fact that something is preventing me from writing to the MBR has me very curious too. This is the first time I've ever seen this at all in about 10 years, and re-doing the BIOS would usually kill any TSR or other virus embedded onto the motherboard. So, Thanks Robert for the suggestion about bootdisk.com, but I used a Win98 CD (original) instead to prevent any possible virus from renewing itself. Thanks HarM - Your suggestion will be one of my next attempts. Thanks Brant - but there's no floppy in the drive. Thanks Mikkel - The boot order is 100% OK. Thanks Aron - But there's no data to lose and as long as the hard drive is the only thing damaged, it won't be a problem. Thanks Stephen - The proper partition is active. Just call me 'Danger Boy'! And finally, Thanks to Aron and Alan for their software suggestions which are next on my 'hit-list'. I'll get back to you guys late today (I'm off to do a small LTSP network), once I'm back from my jobsite. I'm hoping it will be something minor or trivial that I've overlooked. If anyone has another idea, please keep them coming. I'll check in once in a while from the jobsite to see what's what (IMAP is a wonderful thing!), since I don't go anywhere without Mr. Laptop! Adios Amigos! Buenos Dias! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installing Java VM
Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: I can't get sun microosystems java vm to work with my mozilla 1.6. I get the installation to work and there are no error messages. But when I browse the internett at java sites, it doesn't work. I've tried several times and googled for the answer. is there anybody out there who made java vm work? Has: mdk 10.0, kernel 2.6.8, mozilla 1.6 Regards vegard Vegard; Go to this site, http://java.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=9719 download and install the rpm version of Java, then follow the steps at this page http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.jsp#install-pkg exactly, paying attention to the version number of Java that you have downloaded. When it comes to making symbolic links for your browsers, you can follow the java instructions or open Konqueror and browse to the Java folder where the plugins are located, drag and 'link here' the plugin into your browser's plugin folder. If you have multiple browsers that you like to use, drag and link a copy of the plugin to each of the respective browser's plugin folder and again 'link here'. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
Never let it be said that I don't bring interesting problems to the list! This time, the problem makes no sense, unless someone has written a boot-sector virus and included it on the Mandrake 10.1 Community CD's. One of my systems has an Asus P4S800 motherboard running an Intel P4-2.8Ghz HT CPU and 512MB's of DDR 400 ram onboard. I've had 10.1 installed and running flawlessly on it for some time now, but the hard drive (a refurbished generic 20GB ATA100 drive) was showing CRC errors,so I tossed it and installed a new (not refurbished) drive in it's place. The install went off without a hitch. Lilo displayed the kernel choices for a default (Linux-only) install. Upon rebooting, I was surprised to get this warning; DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER. Thinking I had a problem with Lilo, I rebooted with the first CD and went into rescue mode, where I re-entered the Lilo config and rebooted. I received the same error, so using a Windows98 CD, I fdisked the master boot record, or I should say, I tried to update the MBR. Instead, I received an error which stated that the MBR was NOT updated. After a quick search at Maxtor's support site, I downloaded powermax and did a full, zero-fill format of the drive, and tried to reformat the drive and to fdisk the MBR, but received the same error. The BIOS on this board doesn't have anything regarding Virus protection in the menu, and even though I've redone the hard drive using utilities from CD's, I'm still getting the same errors. Either I can't fdisk the MBR, or I can't boot the drive. Has anyone ever sen this problem? The system is fully compatible with Linux and was running 10.1 (and 10.0 before that) with another drive (now in the garbage and long gone), so the only thing that makes sense is that I've got a virus on the motherboard which is reinfecting the MBR each time I re-install. I've downloaded several programs which are capable of repairing the MBR and they haven't helped at all. I've installed another new drive and had the exact same results. Does anyone have any suggestions or helpful advice? This is just plain weird and I'm running out of ideas so I'd appreciate any help the list can offer. TIA Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Lanman wrote: Never let it be said that I don't bring interesting problems to the list! This time, the problem makes no sense, unless someone has written a boot-sector virus and included it on the Mandrake 10.1 Community CD's. One of my systems has an Asus P4S800 motherboard running an Intel P4-2.8Ghz HT CPU and 512MB's of DDR 400 ram onboard. I've had 10.1 installed and running flawlessly on it for some time now, but the hard drive (a refurbished generic 20GB ATA100 drive) was showing CRC errors,so I tossed it and installed a new (not refurbished) drive in it's place. The install went off without a hitch. Lilo displayed the kernel choices for a default (Linux-only) install. Upon rebooting, I was surprised to get this warning; DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER. Thinking I had a problem with Lilo, I rebooted with the first CD and went into rescue mode, where I re-entered the Lilo config and rebooted. I received the same error, so using a Windows98 CD, I fdisked the master boot record, or I should say, I tried to update the MBR. Instead, I received an error which stated that the MBR was NOT updated. After a quick search at Maxtor's support site, I downloaded powermax and did a full, zero-fill format of the drive, and tried to reformat the drive and to fdisk the MBR, but received the same error. The BIOS on this board doesn't have anything regarding Virus protection in the menu, and even though I've redone the hard drive using utilities from CD's, I'm still getting the same errors. Either I can't fdisk the MBR, or I can't boot the drive. Has anyone ever sen this problem? The system is fully compatible with Linux and was running 10.1 (and 10.0 before that) with another drive (now in the garbage and long gone), so the only thing that makes sense is that I've got a virus on the motherboard which is reinfecting the MBR each time I re-install. I've downloaded several programs which are capable of repairing the MBR and they haven't helped at all. I've installed another new drive and had the exact same results. Does anyone have any suggestions or helpful advice? This is just plain weird and I'm running out of ideas so I'd appreciate any help the list can offer. TIA Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 I have seen this before when you do not have a primary partition marked as active. Now, the install program should have done this, but in case it didn't, boot up in the rescue mode, and use fdisk to take a look at the drive. You should have one partition marked as active, or boot - depending on what version of fdisk you are using. (I like cfdisk, but I don't know if it is even included with MDK...) Mikkel Mikkel; Fdisk showed that the first partition (/dev/hda1) was the boot partition and everything looked fine. This is very strange since the system was fine before I had to change the drive. Even after updating the BIOS a few times the problem is still here. Go Figure! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 11:52, Lanman wrote: Never let it be said that I don't bring interesting problems to the list! This time, the problem makes no sense, unless someone has written a boot-sector virus and included it on the Mandrake 10.1 Community CD's. One of my systems has an Asus P4S800 motherboard running an Intel P4-2.8Ghz HT CPU and 512MB's of DDR 400 ram onboard. I've had 10.1 installed and running flawlessly on it for some time now, but the hard drive (a refurbished generic 20GB ATA100 drive) was showing CRC errors,so I tossed it and installed a new (not refurbished) drive in it's place. The install went off without a hitch. Lilo displayed the kernel choices for a default (Linux-only) install. Upon rebooting, I was surprised to get this warning; DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER. Thinking I had a problem with Lilo, I rebooted with the first CD and went into rescue mode, where I re-entered the Lilo config and rebooted. I received the same error, so using a Windows98 CD, I fdisked the master boot record, or I should say, I tried to update the MBR. Instead, I received an error which stated that the MBR was NOT updated. After a quick search at Maxtor's support site, I downloaded powermax and did a full, zero-fill format of the drive, and tried to reformat the drive and to fdisk the MBR, but received the same error. The BIOS on this board doesn't have anything regarding Virus protection in the menu, and even though I've redone the hard drive using utilities from CD's, I'm still getting the same errors. Either I can't fdisk the MBR, or I can't boot the drive. Has anyone ever sen this problem? The system is fully compatible with Linux and was running 10.1 (and 10.0 before that) with another drive (now in the garbage and long gone), so the only thing that makes sense is that I've got a virus on the motherboard which is reinfecting the MBR each time I re-install. I've downloaded several programs which are capable of repairing the MBR and they haven't helped at all. I've installed another new drive and had the exact same results. Does anyone have any suggestions or helpful advice? This is just plain weird and I'm running out of ideas so I'd appreciate any help the list can offer. TIA Lanman That just happened to me (on 10.0 though) and I had to make the /boot partition ACTIVE' using Partition Magic...after that, it was all downhill (er, uphill) -- stephen kuhn Thanks Stephen but I've never used Partition Magic, so I don't have it lying around to try your suggestion. It would be nice if there was a utility I could use to completely reformat or erase the MBR, especially if it actually worked! None of the ones I downloaded were able to fix it and neither were the anti-virus apps. I'm tempted to replace the m/board in case that's the problem. I'm wondering if it might be the IDE controller or something. It might also explain the drive (CRC errors) I had on the other drive. Maybe fate is trying to tell me that it's finally time for that 4 CPU Tyan board with 4 fast Xeon's and a few Gig's of DDR ram. Jeesh! The things I do just to run a Solitaire Game server! Grin! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru
Aron Smith wrote: On Friday 19 November 2004 05:38 pm, Alan Shoemaker wrote: On Friday 19 November 2004 05:31 pm, Lanman wrote: That just happened to me (on 10.0 though) and I had to make the /boot partition ACTIVE' using Partition Magic...after that, it was all downhill (er, uphill) -- stephen kuhn Thanks Stephen but I've never used Partition Magic, so I don't have it lying around to try your suggestion. It would be nice if there was a utility I could use to completely reformat or erase the MBR, especially if it actually worked! None of the ones I downloaded were able to fix it and neither were the anti-virus apps. I'm tempted to replace the m/board in case that's the problem. I'm wondering if it might be the IDE controller or something. It might also explain the drive (CRC errors) I had on the other drive. Maybe fate is trying to tell me that it's finally time for that 4 CPU Tyan board with 4 fast Xeon's and a few Gig's of DDR ram. Jeesh! The things I do just to run a Solitaire Game server! Grin! have you tryed The Ultimate Boot Disk ? download it at http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ pretty powerful tools -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 use bootit ng from: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/ Thanks! I'll give the tools a try and let you know if they work! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Test
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Linux not yet ready for primetime
snip Bryan Phinney wrote: snip So, when I see someone complain about Linux not being ready for primetime because it doesn't include something like voice recognition (nice but most people wouldn't classify that as a major necessity), and remember how WinXP got compromised within six months even with precautions having been taken, I really have to laugh out loud. With WinXP, I still can't be sure the user actually intalled or opened anything, there are simply too many security holes that could account for the trojans being there. Bryan is 100% correct. Linux in general and Mandrake specifically have come a long way in the last few years to the point that most day-today applications are supported and for the most part Linux supports quite a cross-section of hardware. On the security side, I think I have Bryan beat though. Grin! I had to do a Windows 2000 Pro install for a client's dual-boot system. In less than 20 seconds from connecting to his ISP, Windows was not only infected but also totally hosed. This particular ISP has hopped into bed with Microsoft - Big Time - and as a result, their network is also being hit with some of the nastiest crap that anyone has ever written, including a virus that can stay resident in DSL modems! Don't know if this is the first time it's ever happened or not, but the modem had to be replaced. As soon as the infected modem was disconnected from the PC's LAN port, the virus stopped infecting the PC. It was trying to reinfect the system each time the modem was accessed and typically succeeded before any PPPOE software was started and also before the Anti-virus software was fully loaded into RAM. Since the Anti-Virus program was unable to detect the modem or scan it, the only thing it could do was to detect the infected files. I had downloaded all the usual security, spyware and anti-virus goodies using Mandrake and installed them from a shared FAT32 partition, so Windows was as safe as it was going to get, and it only took 20 seconds. Not sure if that was a new record, but it's gotta be awful close! Other than some unsupported Scanners, Mopiers and 'P. of S.' Winmodems, Linux now supports most devices and those that aren't are either too old, too new or in the process of being done, with the exception of those being built specifically for Windows. One other thing to mention is that most of the hardware that IS supported by Linux, usually runs at least as good (if not much better) in Linux than it does in Windows. Just my $0.02 ! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Linux not yet ready for primetime
snip 5 - Most damning of all was my attempted upgrade to 10.1 official. I completely wiped my drive to do a clean install, and after everything was said and done, the official version could not find the internet, nor my onboard (Asus P4P800) sound card. 10.0 had no trouble finding these 2, nor did the community version of 10.1. Luckily for me, I had imaged the drive beforehand, so I was able to go back to 10.1 community. The sound problem you were having was due to either P'n'P, ACPI or APIC settings in the BIOS. I have two Asus P4P800's and had that problem with the first one for about 30 seconds, and not since then. Typically with Asus (AFAIK), all you have to do is to do a default install without changing anything in the BIOS except for the time/date and boot order, and it should work. When running the install and you get to the section for LILO, don't change the APIC or ACPI settings in there either. If that still doesn't work, try changing them one at a time in the BIOS with a reboot in between each change. Once you're logged in, make sure that your volume settings (in KDE(?)) and/or your speakers are turned up enough and make sure that alsa, arts and sound are enabled in services (in MCC) and also in KDE and then reboot again. HTH. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Fact or Fiction
Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 22 Oct 2004 14:42, cervixcouch wrote: So how exactly does one safeguard against a trojan when installing an RPM? You don't install rpms from sources that are not well-known to be reputable - Mandrake mirrors, Sourceforge sites, PLF mirrors are OK, and there are others. If you don't know the site, ask on the lists whether others can vouch for it. Pretty straightforward, really. After all, if someone was wanting to put a Trojan into an rpm they could just as easily add a signature, so knowing your sources is the best safeguard. Anne One more thing,NEVER install Microsoft RPM's ! Grin! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Home network help needed
Russell W. Behne wrote: I want to network 2 computers off of my host. (One for each of my kids.) Right now both new boxes are windows only. I have a couple old hard drives that I will install, one in each box, to use for Linux. I want: 1. Both computers to be able to dual boot using lilo, Linux as default, with a super-bare-bones Linux install, (See #3.) 2. Use static IP addresses for all 3 machines, 127.0.0.1 for mine, 127.0.0.11 for the first dual-boot machine, and 127.0.0.12 for the second. 3. Linux to boot its files systems from my host over the network, so on upgrades upgrading the main box will update all 3. 4. A common password system, where all passwords are maintained on the main box. 5. Each of the 2 boxes will have it's own /home/$user directory (to save space on the server), the main box will have all other user directories in its /home, and /home appears identical on all 3 boxes, so one can login on any machine. 6. Set up things to that the 2 kid's boxes have a `time window' when they can be connected to the Internet, (not 24/7.) 7. Limit instant messaging, as above, to certain times of the day, and set a quota of how long per day they can use IM. 8. Keep a watchfull eye on what they're doing, and what they're viewing. How do I accomplish all this, in what order? Exactly which howtos can help? I don't even know where to begin! Russell, At the risk of sounding like Joe Hill, please remove your email address from the Reply To line in your email settings. Otherwise, no one else on the list can see replies from other list-members that try to help you. Back to the fun part,... By the sounds of things, you've got a handle on the IP address problem, but I was looking at the rest of your shopping list, and it seems to me that you would be better off using LTSP for your children. LTSP would allow you to leave your two new PC's untouched and intact, and they wouldn't need extra hard drives. Since your intention is to have Linux delivered to their systems via your PC and you want to maintain and control their Internet access from your system, it seems to be the logical choice. Have a look at http://www.ltsp.org and get back to the list. LTSP will allow you to install the necessary packages onto your system, and to create boot floppy disks for the two kids PC's. Booting those PC's from the floppy disks will automatically connect the PC's to yours and they will receive a desktop and only the applications you want them to have. The site also has useful goodies such as meter Maid which will allow you to track and enable/disable their Internet access and/or access to Linux. At those times when they need Windows, the can simply reboot their PC's without the floppy disks and Windows will still be ready to go and untouched by Linux. This also means that you won't have to install extra hard drives in those two PC's. As of version 4.0, LTSP also came with a pretty good setup wizard which simplifies the whole setup considerably. While you're at it, this site will also help you create the necessary bootdisks for each system as long as you know which network cards you have in those two PC's. http://www.rom-o-matic.net/ With a small bit of tweaking, you'll be able to lock down what the kids can/can't do and when. Hope that helps. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] playing DVDs
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Sunday 17 October 2004 14:56, David wrote: On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:53:10 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 17 October 2004 10:04, Hoyt Bailey wrote: If your machine is like mine and you have a single cdrom/dvd drive, then Mandrake may have only created the /dev/cdrom link rather than the /dev/dvd link. You can fix this by creating a symbolic link in /dev from /dev/cdrom to /dev/dvd as root ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd When I do the above I get a file exists error, and in /dev the file is '/dev/dvd@'. Then your system is NOT like mine. I usually only get one device created and that is cdrom. You can change the default settings for Mplayer, Xine, etc to use /dev/cdrom instead of /dev/dvd or you can create a symbolic link from /dev/cdrom to /dev/dvd. However, if your system already has a symbolic link to /dev/dvd, then this doesn't apply. have you told your player that it has to look at the dvdrom - in preferences??? No but I will thanks, thats likely the problem. As root, try changing the permissions for the symlink and/or the device itself in /dev folder. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Strange things are afoot.
I've been seeing some strange activity going when trying to install Mandrake 10.0 or 10.1CE on a few older systems and I was wondering if anyone here had seen the same thing? Both systems are running AMD CPU's, and had previously had Mandrake 9.2 on them. When attempting to start an install from 10.0 or 10.1CE, the systems both boot from the CD, but both of them either freeze before the first install panel pops up or fail for no apparent reason after pressing Enter, or manually setting 'linux noapic nolapic' from the 'F1' boot options console. The console screen is replaced by very dark blue screen (as if the installer couldn't load the first graphics panel where you would select the keyboard layout. In some cases, I've had partial success in getting to the International screen by adjusting P'n'P or APM options in the BIOS of either system, but once a keyboard layout is selected, the system shows me that same dark blue screen. I've tried both systems with different AGP cards and I've run full memtests on both. I've updated the BIOS on both and still no joy. One is an Asus board (Slot A - K7 Athlon 650Mhz. First generation Athlon), while the other is an ECS - K7VMM board (Socket A - 750Mhz. Duron). So far, I've been trying AGP cards and I'm currently thinking of slapping in a PCI card to see what happens. On the ECS board, a text mode install shows me the kernel booting, but it freezes at a line which says; 'ESR value before enabling vector: 0002' While the Asus board freezes when it's ; 'Calibrating delay loop' and doesn't even finish the line by displaying the BOGOMips result. Does anyone have some constructive suggestions other than replacing the hardware? Like I mentioned earlier both have a version of Mandrake installed and have been running for some time on 9.2 or 9.1, so hardware shouldn't be the issue. I've re-burned the CD's for 10.0 and 10.1 and I've run the MD5sum on the finished CD's - which checked out fine. TIA -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange things are afoot.
Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 16 Oct 2004 17:17, Lanman wrote: Does anyone have some constructive suggestions other than replacing the hardware? Like I mentioned earlier both have a version of Mandrake installed and have been running for some time on 9.2 or 9.1, so hardware shouldn't be the issue. I've re-burned the CD's for 10.0 and 10.1 and I've run the MD5sum on the finished CD's - which checked out fine. Have you tried booting from CD2? There was a suggestion that CD1 and CD2 had different boot setups, and the CD2 was better suited to older hardware. I don't know the truth of this, but. Anne Yup! Each time I've made any single change, I've tried both CD's 1 2, and I've tried a text version and using the 'noapic nolapic' options from a text console. Same problem. I could understand it if this was related to one system, but two systems with different motherboards and relatively different hardware? This is definitely strange. I've even tried Mandrake 9.2 the same way as the other versions and I get the same problems or results. Go Figure! The strange thing is that one of these systems was working 2 hours ago - running and working (the ECS-based 650 Duron system), but when we rebooted it, Lilo couldn't find the kernels in the boot directory. I've been unable to rescue Lilo since the system fails or freezes before the rescue system can finish booting and/or launching due to a kernel panic or freeze. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Strange things are afoot.
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2004-10-16 at 12:17, Lanman wrote: I've been seeing some strange activity going when trying to install Mandrake 10.0 or 10.1CE on a few older systems and I was wondering if anyone here had seen the same thing? Both systems are running AMD CPU's, and had previously had Mandrake 9.2 on them. When attempting to start an install from 10.0 or 10.1CE, the systems both boot from the CD, but both of them either freeze before the first install panel pops up or fail for no apparent reason after pressing Enter, or manually setting 'linux noapic nolapic' from the 'F1' boot options console. The console screen is replaced by very dark blue screen (as if the installer couldn't load the first graphics panel where you would select the keyboard layout. In some cases, I've had partial success in getting to the International screen by adjusting P'n'P or APM options in the BIOS of either system, but once a keyboard layout is selected, the system shows me that same dark blue screen. I've had almost the exact same experience with mdk10 on an FIC AU13 system board with a Crush 18G Nforce2 chipset. Juggling the acpi options helped but still wouldn't allow installation. It seemed related to SATA on the mobo. 9.2 went in, 10 official did not. I've tried both systems with different AGP cards and I've run full memtests on both. I've updated the BIOS on both and still no joy. If you have Nforce you are going down a dead end road; it's a mobo related problem. (if not it's something else, but still probably mobo related) 9.2 will install on Nforce mobos, 10 generally will not. I hope that 10.1 has not been rushed out the door too fast and that it will install to this crop of Nforce boards here, but I have not had time to do a test install and Warly has already submitted the first official 10.1 cds for installation testing. One is an Asus board (Slot A - K7 Athlon 650Mhz. First generation Athlon), while the other is an ECS - K7VMM board (Socket A - 750Mhz. Duron). So far, I've been trying AGP cards and I'm currently thinking of slapping in a PCI card to see what happens. On the ECS board, a text mode install shows me the kernel booting, but it freezes at a line which says; 'ESR value before enabling vector: 0002' While the Asus board freezes when it's ; 'Calibrating delay loop' and doesn't even finish the line by displaying the BOGOMips result. Does anyone have some constructive suggestions other than replacing the hardware? Like I mentioned earlier both have a version of Mandrake installed and have been running for some time on 9.2 or 9.1, so hardware shouldn't be the issue. I've re-burned the CD's for 10.0 and 10.1 and I've run the MD5sum on the finished CD's - which checked out fine. H...you don't have Nforce but the symptoms are looking very similar to what I was seeing. The BEST shot you have is to file a ***tload of bug reports on 10.1; right now. You have a slim window of opportunity and I'm not talking days, I'm talking hours; maybe 42 or 72 or a little more if you're lucky. In that case you may be able to get these problems corrected in another set of installation cd's for 10.1. Try itgood luck buddy... LX Thanks for the suggestions one and all. I'll get to work on it in an hour or so and let you know if I get it running or not. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Limited DNS IP in network config
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 193.165.264.74 isn't a valid IP Address Each number can't go above 255. -Original Message- From: Stefan Urbanek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Limited DNS IP in network config Hi, In graphical network configuration dialog, there is limited length of DNS. Example: Not accepted : 193.165.264.74 Accepted(fake): 193.165.26.7 Error message said that the DNS IP should be in format 1.2.3.4, what was a bit misleading in this case, because the format was correct. It was just limited to 12 characters. How can I enter full length DNS address? Thanks, Stefan Urbanek Was that a trick question? Grin! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Creating an installation DVD
Poogle wrote: On Tuesday 12 Oct 2004 12:41, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 12 Oct 2004 12:09, Bryan Phinney wrote: Thanks for trying Anne but I can't see it there My mistake - it was Bryan that wrote up how to do it (sorry Bryan). See http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MakingOwnDVD Anne Thanks again Anne, I'm not sure that it's quite what I was looking for though, I'll study it and see if I can use it to create a DVD from the 3 iso's. John Anne, Nice to see you coming around a bit more! Hopefully we'll see you on this list more often. You've been missed! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Creating an installation DVD
Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 12 Oct 2004 13:00, Lanman wrote: Anne, Nice to see you coming around a bit more! Hopefully we'll see you on this list more often. You've been missed! Thanks Lanman :-) Hasn't anyone been nagging enough lately? I've been reading too many lists, troubleshooting my own systems that seem to get more and more unruly. Anne Anne, Most of the list-nags have started posting to the OT list, so the traffic here has settled down somewhat. Hopefully, this list will focus on helping each other with Linux-related problems for a while before the next big screaming match commences. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] USB Flash Drive Config.
Simon Utley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I know there was a thread on this not long ago but it didn't answer my problem. I am on Mdk 10 and in order to get my Traveling Disk 2.0 USB Flash Drive to work I had to make a directory /mnt/memstick then mount it using #mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/memstick. I had read on the list that Mdk 10 should recognise the drive and put an icon on the desktop. If this is the case why is it not happening here. Simon. Simon, Check to see if you have hotplug installed and that it's starting at boot time, then make sure that you've configured your desktop to display your mountable device icons - otherwise they may mount, but they won't show up on the desktop. Check for the mountable icons in KcontrolLook'n'Feelbehavior. Check the third tab especially and make sure that the checkbox is checked. HTH -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
LX, snip, snip, snip, and more snippage. Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Without that, MDK would be just another gray distro. Definite words of wisdom! How old is this guy? Should we be calling him *Master* ? We need to keep the newbie list the friendliest list on the net, so that we can continue to remain a haven for new users. A worthwhile pursuit even if some of us have become somewhat jaded. Still, we should strive in search of perfection, Yes/No? To that end we have an unusually large aggregation of socially aware users on this list; that are also technically capable. Did I hear someone refer to me again? (Grin!) My ears are burning for some reason! LMAO! LX I'm getting bored with constantly agreeing with this guy! He is consistently spouting truths and common sense like it's the left over coffee grounds at a StarBuck's. In order to save a lot of time complimenting Lyvim on his wisdom, I propose we simply elect him to the position of *List-Sensei*, and be done with it! All in Favor? However, I don't suggest a pedestal. The air would be too thin up there and he might pass out! Grin! Even though people like Bryan and I can disagree on philosophical and idealogical concepts, we still retain respect for one another (although there are times when you wouldn't easily notice it), and continue to participate on the list with the best intentions. A lot of that has to do with members like Lyvim keeping a steady demeanor and being patient with us passionate types who can get carried away. Lyvim is one of the few who maintains a relatively even composure compared to some of us and constantly offers help, suggestions and tactful nudges as to list etiquette instead of attacking newbies or welcoming them with criticism. I'd like to think that guys like LX will make this list a favourite spot for newbies for a long time to come and will ultimately lead to a better experience for most of us. Now, if only we could devise a way to increase Joe's Prozac dosage, and find a way to enforce a minimum caffeine limit of at least 6 cups/day in all list-members this place would be a lot more enjoyable for all! (By the way Lyvim? I hope my check is in the mail? Grin!) -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 07:31, Lanman wrote: LX, snip, snip, snip, and more snippage. Lyvim Xaphir wrote: Without that, MDK would be just another gray distro. Definite words of wisdom! How old is this guy? Should we be calling him *Master* ? Personally I'd just settle for being Ann Coulter's webmaster. ;) We need to keep the newbie list the friendliest list on the net, so that we can continue to remain a haven for new users. A worthwhile pursuit even if some of us have become somewhat jaded. Still, we should strive in search of perfection, Yes/No? Exactly, which is the reason for me being Ann Coulter's webmaster, since she is the model of perfection. grin To that end we have an unusually large aggregation of socially aware users on this list; that are also technically capable. Did I hear someone refer to me again? (Grin!) My ears are burning for some reason! LMAO! I should have saved your ears and just said it out loud: LANMAN. grin LX I'm getting bored with constantly agreeing with this guy! I'm not! grin! He is consistently spouting truths and common sense like it's the left over coffee grounds at a StarBuck's. In order to save a lot of time complimenting Lyvim on his wisdom, I propose we simply elect him to the position of *List-Sensei*, and be done with it! All in Favor? However, I don't suggest a pedestal. The air would be too thin up there and he might pass out! Grin! Some might say that the air must be a certain specific gravity in order for me to be able to convert it into hotter air. Hehehe Even though people like Bryan and I can disagree on philosophical and idealogical concepts, we still retain respect for one another (although there are times when you wouldn't easily notice it), and continue to participate on the list with the best intentions. A lot of that has to do with members like Lyvim keeping a steady demeanor and being patient with us passionate types who can get carried away. Yet I myself am a passionate type like yourself. I just believe in sparring with those who I consider to be at least as opinionated and outspoken as I am, yet incorrect in my experience. I am sure you feel the same way about yourself. Such disagreements, IMO, advance the status quo. This is much different than newbie abuse; you can be assured that I *don't* believe in abusing newbies. Which is primarily why I wrote what I did; but I know you already know that. There's a big difference between disagreements between seasoned list members and an unwarranted attack on a newbie that's just getting into the Linux world. But once again I don't need to tell you that. Lyvim is one of the few who maintains a relatively even composure compared to some of us and constantly offers help, suggestions and tactful nudges as to list etiquette instead of attacking newbies or welcoming them with criticism. I'd like to think that guys like LX will make this list a favourite spot for newbies for a long time to come and will ultimately lead to a better experience for most of us. Thanks for the kind words, Lanman. There are some spring loaded prima donna's that might disagree with you, but I think they are the least of our difficulties. Especially since we have the OT list available for political disagreements and otherwise, therefore we can send them over there for decisive ends to disagreements (if they have the cahoneys to go, which most of the milksops that whine or bitch or have politically inflaming sigs don't have the nutsack to do it) and at that point I can handle them with dispatch. BTW you should visit us at the OT list, as you are constantly an interesting topic of conversation. ;) Now, if only we could devise a way to increase Joe's Prozac dosage, and find a way to enforce a minimum caffeine limit of at least 6 cups/day in all list-members this place would be a lot more enjoyable for all! Joe might think that some of this (that I wrote) is directed at him, but it's not really. In fact, Joe of late has been very newbie friendly. I hope that trend will continue. (By the way Lyvim? I hope my check is in the mail? Grin!) It was too big for one payment so it was the first of ten installments with a final bonus upon your subscription to the OT list. ;) LX You mean there really IS an OT list? Hell, I thought that was just a term you folks used to get rid of pesky individuals - sort of a ruse to make them insane looking for the OT list. Humph. Silly me! Where do I subscribe? Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
JoeHill wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:27:13 -0400 Todd Slater disseminated the following: Are you insane? Oh, indubitably, but I'm sensing some romance in the air here... ;-) I wonder where they're registered? Joe, Oooohhh! That ones gonna cost ya Joe! But, in all fairness, it's about time you developed a sense of humour! Guess those anger-management classes are finally paying off! If they're good enough for Charles Manson, you should blend right in! Man, You slay me! LMAO! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
Margot wrote: assorted and copious snipping Can we move this to the OT list now please, before it goes any further? And Todd and Lanman would be more than welcome to join us there ;-) More of the same Best offer I've had all day. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
Margot wrote: It's not an official Mandrake list - Mark Weaver kindly runs it so we can keep off-topic discussions away from the newbie expert lists. All are welcome to join - bring your own flame-proof suit! [EMAIL PROTECTED] What??? No subscribe page? Jeesh! Do I just send an email with a subject that says subscribe in it or what? Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
et wrote: On Friday 01 October 2004 07:31, Lanman wrote: Lyvim is one of the few who maintains a relatively even composure compared to some of us what /are/ you smoking? Whatever it is,...you cain't have nun! I is saving it fer Festus and Joe! Y'all will have to grow yer own! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.1CE
Paul Kaplan wrote: My initial impression is that 10.1CE is faster than 10.0 Official. Can anyone confirm or would people like a sample of what I've been smokin'? Paul ROFLMFAO! Paul, That was definitely very funny! Please don't say funny things while I have a mouthful of coffee! Now I have to break out the paper towels and clean my monitor - AGAIN! And there was sugar in that coffee, so you just KNOW it's gonna be extra sticky on the glass. If you're not sure, you should forward me a memo! Grin! I have to agree with you though Paul (all coffee spewing aside) that 10.1 seems faster that 10.0 Official. The developers at Mandrake seem to be able to anticipate our 'Need for Speed', because Mandrake seems to get a bit faster each time a new version comes out. Of course, by the time a new one is almost ready for release, the previous version always seems to be a tad slower, so it's either great timing or they're doing it on purpose! Hmmm,...a conspiracy maybe? Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 29 September 2004 08:58, Lanman wrote: I really hate it when you do that! Just when I thought I had found a challenging intellectual adversary, you go and agree with me on something! Damn! Where's Albert Einstein when ya need him? *Snicker*! I like to keep my opponents off-guard and not get too predictable. ;-} I suppose that now, you're gonna tell me that I can't bill you for the new keyboard, aren't ya? Grin! Good thing it's a tax write-off for me. What I'm not getting from OGO, is the reasons why they felt it necessary to use a module (mod_ngobjweb.so) to handle the pages when most others use a web-page built using PHP. It just seems that they over complicated the construction of the suite. I suppose they had their reasons, but I'm not getting that quite yet. IMNSHO, it wasn't done in order to make the suite easier in most senses of the word, but perhaps it had something to do with an easier building of the suite. Well, we again seem to have come to some of the same conclusions. I did note that the packaging and even the product appears to be extremely modular as if by design. My own take on that was that they had VERY big plans for the product, sort of an everything but the kitchen sink kind of deal and were building that modular architecture in, related to those plans. Given the existing scope, I don't see the need currently but then again, there are a lot of other smaller more compact packages already that would be just as useable so they are perhaps planning to move in another direction and are planning ahead. It is much harder to make an existing product more modular than it is to build that capacity in from the beginning design. On a personal level, I don't like products that are too broad in scope, even if the supposition is that you want everything integrated. If you try to do too many things, usually you do none of them really well. Several reasons for my dislike, first, overly complex packages are harder from a QA perspective and thus prone to more problems. Second, trying to customize such a package is also more difficult and I don't know of very many businesses that are happy with an out of the box, vanilla product. Third, upgrades, patches, fixes are more complex and have to be tested broader and deeper because of the many layers of complexity and integration points. The modular architecture can help with this somewhat but tends to also mean that you need to build up complex skill sets in house to provide support and customization since you usually won't get that from the company (more true for commercial than OS but tends to match for all of them). And, the more modular nature also tends to detract from overall knowledge of the big picture of the package so that it is harder to tell where everything intersects and what changes in one module will affect other modules. Since OGO seems to be based on components from other groupware suites, it seems that they must have taken a turn somewhere that led them down a new path of construction, and this might be a factor. Most other ones I've looked at didn't give me SOPE hassles, and it wasn't necessary to build a module in order to get it working. If their focus is on integration of disparate components, especially from an enterprise level, this would explain a lot. I note that packages like SAP are extremely complex and in most cases, require virtual armies dedicated to their installation and configuration due to the many modules that can be attached to them. If their package is focused at the same functional design, but from a communications end, it would explain why the package is so complex and at least some of the apparent design decisions. Something along the lines of tying in a CRM system to enterprise email, and even perhaps hooking that up to some type of ERP type system. Once you start talking about all of these very different types of system being integrated, you would need a pretty complex package with either a lot of integration points or a very modular type of design. Well, there goes the neighbourhood! Hey Ma! Best get out the rock salt! Seems we is gonna need to make us up a big batch o' shells! Them civilized types is a movin' in next door! These ones are a slippery bunch o' fancy-pants big city types, so watch yerself! Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 I just watched that guvmint guy driving away, sittin' thar on that sack o' seeds! (Unknown artist from the 70's) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
et wrote: On Friday 24 September 2004 17:46, Lanman wrote: Glad to be of service gents! Sigh! Now I'm off to scrape the callouses off of my fingertips. but still have not learned one iota about how to setup oGo, adn what I did learn was just enough to have me try out the install of ogo, enough to bork up my Apache install. et, et al (was that a pun?) Having gone through this too many times to count, having gone a few rounds with Bryan on the overall philosophy of Linux and Open-Source and having replaced my keyboard as a result, my suggestion is to leave OGO where it is - on the contribs list, and to focus on the usable groupware suites like Egroupware, PHProjekt, or SugarCRM, since they are well documented, and can be relatively easily installed, and configured. IMNSHO, It should be left on a development list somewhere until it it at least configurable. Further research on OGO has shown that the SOPE components won't compile on Mandrake 10.0, and without that you're left with several hours or days of work that don't accomplish a thing except to increase ones' frustration. Now, having said all of that, you can count on someone flaming me for suggesting that OGO be left where it is until it's a tad more user-friendly, etc. Sigh! Here we go again! I'm thinking that Stephen's approach might at least be more enjoyable than actually trying to get OGO up and running. I may sound like a broken record (oops! I meant skipping CD!), but an least I'm consistent! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 29 September 2004 07:45, Lanman wrote: IMNSHO, It should be left on a development list somewhere until it it at least configurable. Further research on OGO has shown that the SOPE components won't compile on Mandrake 10.0, and without that you're left with several hours or days of work that don't accomplish a thing except to increase ones' frustration. Now, having said all of that, you can count on someone flaming me for suggesting that OGO be left where it is until it's a tad more user-friendly, etc. Sigh! Here we go again! For the record, I think that is a very sensible proposal for a package that seems to be difficult to install and configure. I did do some checking into the packages on contrib as well as looking at some of the installation documents and came to much the same conclusion myself. oGo does not look like it is a suitable product for anyone that is not either familiar with the product already, or willing to put a lot of manual labor into getting it up and working. Bryan, I really hate it when you do that! Just when I thought I had found a challenging intellectual adversary, you go and agree with me on something! Damn! Where's Albert Einstein when ya need him? *Snicker*! I suppose that now, you're gonna tell me that I can't bill you for the new keyboard, aren't ya? Grin! Good thing it's a tax write-off for me. What I'm not getting from OGO, is the reasons why they felt it necessary to use a module (mod_ngobjweb.so) to handle the pages when most others use a web-page built using PHP. It just seems that they over complicated the construction of the suite. I suppose they had their reasons, but I'm not getting that quite yet. IMNSHO, it wasn't done in order to make the suite easier in most senses of the word, but perhaps it had something to do with an easier building of the suite. Since OGO seems to be based on components from other groupware suites, it seems that they must have taken a turn somewhere that led them down a new path of construction, and this might be a factor. Most other ones I've looked at didn't give me SOPE hassles, and it wasn't necessary to build a module in order to get it working. I'm assuming they must have had good reasons, but IMO, it would have been a lot better if they had setup a usable PHP-based admin page where you could do all the configs and see where your errors were. Some of the other suites already have that - ie; EGroupware. At least that way you can see your exact errors and eliminate them one at a time until it's all working. But, Like I said,...that's just my opinion - for what it's worth. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Helix vs. Real Player?
Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 08:56, Todd Slater wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 09:38:41PM -0400, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:31:48 +0200 H.J.Bathoorn disseminated the following: I second that. Mileage varies on other players, mplayer always just works on all sorts of distro's and plays almost anything you throw at it. I'd be way pleased if you or anyone could tell me why this isn't working: http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/ ...and yet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$rpm -qa | grep codecs win32-codecs-1.4-2plf real-codecs-1.2-1plf xanim-codecs-1.0-3plf and: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$rpm -qa | grep mplayer mplayer-1.0-0.pre3.14plf mplayer-gui-1.0-0.pre3.15plf mplayerplugin-0.80-1mdk mplayer-skins-1.3-8mdk When I try to view a clip, I get 'loading movie...', but that turns out to be a damned lie! ;-) It's a conspiracy perpetrated by the U.S. and Canadian governments and a handful of these two nations' most powerful telecommunications companies. After all, what is said on one end is never exactly the same as what comes out on the other. Todd And don't forget -- watch the comedy channel to learn more. g LX Lyvim - Nice one! The site seems to be set up only for Windows Media Player version 9.0. Tried it using a client's system which has WMP8.0 and an error came up regarding the fact that it only accepts WMP 9.0 as the player. Looks like they either changed to WM Encoding recently, or it never worked with any other player at all. My guess is that they changed it recently. Sorry Guys. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] HP PSC 750
has anyone tried using an HP PSC 750 Multi-Function mopier unit? It's a combination of a scanner, printer and copier (I think). If there's anything I need to watch out setting one up, I'd appreciate a bit of info. TIA -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HP PSC 750
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Saturday 25 September 2004 11:44, Lanman wrote: has anyone tried using an HP PSC 750 Multi-Function mopier unit? It's a combination of a scanner, printer and copier (I think). If there's anything I need to watch out setting one up, I'd appreciate a bit of info. I have an HP PSC 950. Always worked out of the box with mandrake so I think that yours should as well. Only thing that doesn't work is sending faxes directly from the PC through hte multifunction device. Thanks for the input guys. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
who's being a Zealot? Linux is not about crushing Microsoft, agreed. However, no matter what part of the IT/IS world you work in, we are asked to solve the problems that plague a Microsoft world. Many of those problems can already be solved by means of Linux and the O-S softtware that's currently available. We don't need to beat Microsoft, we just need to level the playing field, and then let the merits of our O/S and O-S solutions do the rest. In an idealistic world, co-existance would be the preferred choice. But, of course, that's not the world we live in, by any means. If that were true, all politicians would be honest as would lawyers, and I'm sure the list could be endless. However, while the philosophy isn't about beating MS, it is inevitable that it will, as long as it continues to evolve. I see nothing wrong with nudging Linux and O-S applications in that direction by making them easier than the alternatives. Richard Stallman (et al) had a vision that computers, O/S'es and software should help to empower humanity to achieve higher goals, and while it's taking longer to happen than they originally conceived, it is happening nevertheless. I see no justification to adopt an isolationist attitude or to continue to make it harder for humanity to reach those higher goals simply becuase people can fatten their wallets. Let's keep it hard to use so we can capitalize on something that is free? Nonsense! Let's make it easier to use and let's earn a fair living while helping others. Let's work towards a compromise between idealism and practicality. In order to succeed, it will have to show the world how MUCH better it is. Until it becomes more install and config and user friendly, the battle will be a lot harder than it NEEDS to be. End of story. Again, IMO, you are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. 180 degrees different from my viewpoint and I suspect, Linus Torvald's, Richard Stallman's and many of the biggest forces behind Linux and free software. I wish I was wrong, but I'm willing to compromise with you. I respect your right to your opinion, and as they say, I will respect your right to have and express your opinion, even going so far as to respect your right to so wrong that you seem to be way out in left field long after the rest of the team and the patrons have left the field and turned off the lights! Just remebre to lock the gate on your way out! Grin! I don't have a problem with your free lunch point of view, since I pay for virtually everything as it is. But I'm not going to buy OGO or anything else without seeing it perform and without knowing the ins and outs of the install and configuration process. No one should have to. If they download the Live-CD and they shouldn't have to. I'll tell you something that may shock you, and anyone who can't handle the truth should plug their ears and close their eyes, cuz it won't be pretty. People don't want that much choice. Of course, I'm not talking about us Linux newbies, experts, geeks or guru's, but about the general consumers. They certainly don't want as much choice as Linux and open-Source provides. Yes, they do. They want to be able to choose to buy something that just works and that doesn't require any learning. Others want to be able to get something that requires learning but works better. Still others want something that is complicated and works fantastically, like it reads your mind. The diverse marketplace is a reflection of what people want. Every time someone tells me what people want or don't want, I automatically write them off as hopelessly clueless. There is nothing in this world that someone, somewhere didn't want. If this is a vibrant, thriving marketplace of ideas, software, etc., it is because that is what people want. If they don't want choice, we would probably all still be running Unix. rest snipped because I found it useless Calm down Bryan. You're gonna wear out the G R keys on your keyboard! Lanman, if I thought you were a total troll, I would simply ignore it. It is when someone that I think is reasonable spouts what I think is totally unreasonable stuff that I get irritated. Irritate away Bryan. But here we are doing the one thing you hate most. wasting resources on something that probably won't be decided for years to come. I admire your tenacity, but I think you're going to get an rude awakening when you see how Linux evolves. What's more, I intend to do everything in my power to make sure that Linux does become easier and more prominent that it currently is. Sorry fella! You might want to start looking for a different distro soon. But even I have to face reality and deal with the real world, and that world is a Microsoft one. Sun Tzu said: In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it, to capture
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
Here's the last of it Bryan, Bryan Phinney wrote: Well, let's just get down to the bottom line here, rather than continuing what appears to be a pointless debate. This is the first and only thing you wrote that makes perfect sense to me. I asked the list for help and bitched about OGO and the need to improve it and other Open-Source software. You got your nose out of joint about my comments and that's where it essentially ended. Everything else was philosophy, perspective, opinions. At that point, this conversation should have been sent to the OT list, or we should have both kept further comments to ourselves. So, let's do ourselves a favour and either continue this off list, or drop it. We both have opinions, we both believe we're right, and we work in different parts of the industry. That alone should tell us that we're bound to have different opinions. I vented my frustrations at the piss-poor effort someone made with OGO, and you vented about my venting. I think this ones a dead horse. So the next time you see a post from me on the list and you don't like my comments, just spent a few hours typing GRRR! on your keyboard and leave it at that, OK? No amount of expressing your comments will change my perspective and vice-versa. Let's move on, cause we both have better things to do and I don't want to waste any more resources on this. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Friday 24 September 2004 16:10, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 24 September 2004 18:03, Lee Wiggers wrote: Thanks for the discussion. It helped me understand both my frustration at putting the office back on win2k and reinforced my intention of nailing them with mdk again next year. Yep, It was an interesting little joust wasn't it? Picked up some nice pointers from both:) Especially B's remark about users convinced of the right of being stupid because they were thus encouraged by the software they used' brought some puzzling previous experiences into perspective. I suppose ease_of_use/idiot-proof and flexibility/choice don't go together well. It's up to us to create the best usable compromise and discussions like these certainly help. I agree and thank both for a lively discussion. Glad to be of service gents! Sigh! Now I'm off to scrape the callouses off of my fingertips. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
Lee Wiggers wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:21:28 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone had any luck getting OpenGroupware to work? I've been beating this thing to death for the last several days with no luck whatsoever. The packages are available from the Contribs list, and they install without a problem, but no amount of reading the documentation, following the install procedures or wading through the mail archives on their site has helped. What amazes me is how the installation of something like OpenGroupware can be this difficult or complicated. Surely, with the power and flexibility of Linux and Open-Sourced software, this shouldn't be a problem? After all, what's the sense of wasting time to create Mandrake RPMs for something that simply doesn't work? If anyone has some helpful advice on how to get this thing working, I'd appreciate any help you can offer. For reference sake, I've tried setting it up on Mandrake 9.2 and 10.0 using Apache 1.3 and 2.0.50 with no luck at all. I'm either seeing blank pages when I try to browse to the initial page (which is used to complete configurations and is the default page when OpenGroupware is first launched), or I'm getting connection errors from the server I've installed it on. Apache is working fine, since it's serving other non-related pages without any errors or problems, and PostGreSQL builds the database for OpenGroupware without a problem. TIA -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 I have been holding this waiting for someone to respond. Guess this means that nobody has made it work, me included. The service is running, but I haven't a clue what to do next. (It's been running since last year sometime. Lee Thanks for replying Lee. I've gone ahead and installed Red Hat 9.0 on the system ear-marked for OpenGroupware in the hopes that I can get it to work today. I'll report back if I have any success. Like I said in my previous post, I fail to see why anyone would bother to make and include the RPM's for something that can't be installed easily. If Linux is going to make a bigger dent in the world, it's going to have to fix this type of problem. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
with each other. Like the saying goes,... if you're not part of the solutions, you're part of the problem. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] OpenGroupware
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 23 September 2004 22:25, Lanman wrote: The fact that OGO is either missing a clear and precise installation document or simply doesn't work without some significant step that seems to be missing, means it's not quite there yet. End of story. Lanman, I'm not a groupware user so I wouldn't know if it even worked or not. I did see that there was a d'loadable liveCD offered on their (ogo)website. Might be worth checking it out to see if it's a Mdk problem only or not...wouldn't be the first time mdk messed up. In the contribs I noticed that ogo was offered as a very modular download..which usually means you have to install all of them or learn to live with random unexplainable crashes or side effects. Similar to the KDE packages; One for all and all for one! heh:) HJ, Yeah, I made a point of installing all the packages. A lot of times dude. Sigh! However, I might try the LiveCD to see if I can grab the necessary configs from it or see if I've missed anything. That's the last option left at this point. Thanks for the info. I'm fairly sure it isn't an MDK problem, but I'm willing to give it one last shot. I'll let you know what I find out. In the meantime, I'm already evaluating EGroupware and PHProjekt both of which went in without a hitch. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:27, Lanman wrote: Just out of curiosity, how do I determine which USB device port it's attached to? USBview had lots of info about the unit, but doesn't clearly state the device settings to use, - ie; it doesn't say anything about which device to assign for the IRDA to USB bridge like proc/dev/usb/???, so i can't accurately point it to a spcific port designation. Don't know about this specific device but, when hooking up any new usb device I always have a konsole open with tail -f /var/log/messages running. That way I can see where it's getting connectederrr, most of the time:) Well,...Here's what I got from the tail command; Sep 21 08:49:33 daboss kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 Sep 21 08:49:47 daboss kernel: ohci_hcd :00:03.0: wakeup Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4 Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: SigmaTel STIr4200 IRDA/USB found at address 4, Vendor: 66f, Product: 4200 Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: IrDA: Registered SigmaTel device irda0 This was displayed after removing and re-connecting the IRDA dongle, but how do I interpret the information into a specific path to a device - ie; /proc/bus/usb/device port and address? I'd like to be able to assign a specific address to this thing if possible. Can you tell I'm not big on USB? Grin! -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB
Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 14:09, Lanman wrote: H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 05:27, Lanman wrote: Just out of curiosity, how do I determine which USB device port it's attached to? USBview had lots of info about the unit, but doesn't clearly state the device settings to use, - ie; it doesn't say anything about which device to assign for the IRDA to USB bridge like proc/dev/usb/???, so i can't accurately point it to a spcific port designation. Don't know about this specific device but, when hooking up any new usb device I always have a konsole open with tail -f /var/log/messages running. That way I can see where it's getting connectederrr, most of the time:) Well,...Here's what I got from the tail command; Sep 21 08:49:33 daboss kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3 Sep 21 08:49:47 daboss kernel: ohci_hcd :00:03.0: wakeup Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 4 Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: SigmaTel STIr4200 IRDA/USB found at address 4, Vendor: 66f, Product: 4200 Sep 21 08:49:48 daboss kernel: IrDA: Registered SigmaTel device irda0 This was displayed after removing and re-connecting the IRDA dongle, but how do I interpret the information into a specific path to a device - ie; /proc/bus/usb/device port and address? I'd like to be able to assign a specific address to this thing if possible. Can you tell I'm not big on USB? Grin! It is in the message Registered SigmaTel device irda0 It has been registered as /dev/irda0 derek Thanks Derek. All this time I thought I had to look for a USB device, and there it was right in front of me. Can you say Dufus? DoH! Now for the big question,...How do I associate that with a program for data transfers? Do I mount it like a hard drive or use hotplug for the job? Also, is there a program that you know of that can monitor signal strength between the dongle and Infra-Red devices? BTW, Thanks for taking the time to help. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB
Dear List, As the subject mentions, I have an IRDA dongle which connects to my USB port. The Infra-Red unit is used to transfer pictures from a Casio digital camera to the PC. The dongle is recognized on my USB port properly, although it doesn't allow me to determine which port it's connected to. meanwhile, I've downloaded the source code for the driver module, but I'm receiving a lot of errors when trying to make the driver. All of this is happening on Mandrake 10.0 , so I'd appreciate any suggestions if possible. TIA -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Yet another MS threat
JoeHill wrote: On 20 Sep 2004 14:34:45 -0500 Eric Scott disseminated the following: Lol, ranks right up there with freeyourmachine.org, only this stuff's logical instead of the ramblings of an overemphasizing MS-hater. This link is... um... the logical, reasonable, believable ramblings of an overemphasizing MS-hater. Thanks for the positive feedback. I'm really glad you joined our little group here. Now fuck off. Ah yes, Once again, Joe Hill opens his yap and eloquent responses spew out. All Hail Joe Hill, or you might get sworn at and then plonked! OH, NOOooo! Not plonked by the Mighty Joe Hill? Say it isn't so! How can we manage to live without his snappy, witty, intelligent retorts and enlightened opinions! Please! Someone pinch me before I suffocate from laughing this hard! Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB
Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 00:08, Lanman wrote: Dear List, As the subject mentions, I have an IRDA dongle which connects to my USB port. The Infra-Red unit is used to transfer pictures from a Casio digital camera to the PC. The dongle is recognized on my USB port properly, although it doesn't allow me to determine which port it's connected to. meanwhile, I've downloaded the source code for the driver module, but I'm receiving a lot of errors when trying to make the driver. All of this is happening on Mandrake 10.0 , so I'd appreciate any suggestions if possible. TIA Erm.. If you try telling us what the errors are and maybe the name of the driver you might get a meaningful reply. derek Sorry for the lack of info Derek. The driver module is called stir4200 and the first lines of the error message look like this; cc -I/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-10mdk/build/include -I../include -Wall -Wcast-align -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -DLI NUX -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-common -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary= 2 -include /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-10mdk/build/include/linux/modversions.h -DKBUILD_BASENAME=stir4200 -o stir 4200.o -c stir4200.c There's about 100 lines of error messages that result from trying to make the module. What I've posted above is just the beginning few lines. After this pre-amble, it goes on to say quite a bit about cc1: /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-10mdk/build/include/linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory, and repeats several similar messages about files or directories not existing. The strange thing about it, is that there's already a driver module included with the kernel, but it won't install or load and MCC says that it's an unknown piece of hardware. Just out of curiosity, how do I determine which USB device port it's attached to? USBview had lots of info about the unit, but doesn't clearly state the device settings to use, - ie; it doesn't say anything about which device to assign for the IRDA to USB bridge like proc/dev/usb/???, so i can't accurately point it to a spcific port designation. These latest error codes are from Mandrake10.1 Community. I updated Mandrake hoping it would solve the problem, but as you can see, I wasn't successful. Any ideas? TIA Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB
Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 03:41, Derek Jennings wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 00:08, Lanman wrote: Dear List, As the subject mentions, I have an IRDA dongle which connects to my USB port. The Infra-Red unit is used to transfer pictures from a Casio digital camera to the PC. The dongle is recognized on my USB port properly, although it doesn't allow me to determine which port it's connected to. meanwhile, I've downloaded the source code for the driver module, but I'm receiving a lot of errors when trying to make the driver. All of this is happening on Mandrake 10.0 , so I'd appreciate any suggestions if possible. TIA Erm.. If you try telling us what the errors are and maybe the name of the driver you might get a meaningful reply. derek A quick Google leads me to suspect the name of the driver might be stir4200 http://tec-tech.org/?Linux%2FIrStick http://wetlogic.net/stewart/stir4200/ and a quick slocate tells me that driver is already in the 2.4.8-10mdk kernel in 10.1. Dunno about 10.0 $ slocate stir4200 /lib/modules/2.6.8.1-10mdk/kernel/drivers/net/irda/stir4200.ko.gz derek Yup, right on the money Derek. But my other reply to you gives you an idea of my troubles. I'm only guessing here, but I'm thinking the error is due to the fact that the dongle hasn't been assigned a USB device port yet, and the built in module is failing because it can't attach itself to that port. Thanks for any help you can offer. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sigmatel 4200 IRDA to USB]
Quick update for you Derek. The stir4200 driver module is now installed after a quick reboot, but I still don't know which usb device-port it's connected to. Right now, usbview says that it's connected to /proc/bus/usb/devices which I believe is just a reference and not an actual port. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] OpenGroupware
Has anyone had any luck getting OpenGroupware to work? I've been beating this thing to death for the last several days with no luck whatsoever. The packages are available from the Contribs list, and they install without a problem, but no amount of reading the documentation, following the install procedures or wading through the mail archives on their site has helped. What amazes me is how the installation of something like OpenGroupware can be this difficult or complicated. Surely, with the power and flexibility of Linux and Open-Sourced software, this shouldn't be a problem? After all, what's the sense of wasting time to create Mandrake RPMs for something that simply doesn't work? If anyone has some helpful advice on how to get this thing working, I'd appreciate any help you can offer. For reference sake, I've tried setting it up on Mandrake 9.2 and 10.0 using Apache 1.3 and 2.0.50 with no luck at all. I'm either seeing blank pages when I try to browse to the initial page (which is used to complete configurations and is the default page when OpenGroupware is first launched), or I'm getting connection errors from the server I've installed it on. Apache is working fine, since it's serving other non-related pages without any errors or problems, and PostGreSQL builds the database for OpenGroupware without a problem. TIA -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Win-Clients 'forget' samba server name
Harald T ZIPKO wrote: Mdk10 box with smb 3.02 works fine for win98 users but if the clients want to reconnect to the server (eg they are shutting down their boxes at the end of the day and want to gain access to their folders next morning...) ther's no server available in the network neighborhood.. Actually, * the server _is_ available (eg logging to the box via web-interface/IP-Address, ssh,...) and * after a restart the smb-server is available and present in the neighborhood... I suggest this is only a little smb-configuration issue (at least I hope so ;-) -- (o Best regards //\Harald T ZIPKO V_/_ please no html - mails Harald; You should consider using the Map Network Drive option for those Win98 boxes. That way the shares that each machine needs is available the next time the system boots up. Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] Put on your tinfoil hats...
Scott Mazur wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:42:51 -0400, JoeHill wrote Well, I guess it depends on how you define 'country', at least to me. If you mean the people around you, that you live with and work with, and all the people that share your goals and values, basic to most of us, like 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (of course, in Canada it's: 'Life, Liberty, and the Security of the Person'...typical vague and somehow disturbing Canadian shite), then of course no one would disavow their country, IMO. Look Joe, if you want to raise your flag and shout it from the mountains more power to you. But if you feel you have to start dissing Canada to do it you're going to find yourself on the filtered end of many null buckets. Scott Did someone open up a steam pipe valve? Or was that Joe Hill voicing another of his mundane opinions? The two sound quite similar so it's easy to confuse them. Hopefully, perhaps someone will be kind enough to close it, no matter which one it was. -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] MS an economic vampire
JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:52:26 -0400 Lanman disseminated the following: You can argue with Lyvim's point of view, but only if you like being wrong. So, are you taking over Lyvim's arrogant side now? G I don't think anyone is arguing with his point of view anyhow, *he's* arguing against a point *that no one made*, at least in this thread. What it is with you Joe? Are you determined to piss somebody off today? Did you wake up and decide that this was a good day to annoy and insult someone again? Don't disguise your insult by making it sound like you're kidding. The G notation will only allow you to get away with things to a certain extent. I was simply agreeing with Lyvim, who's opinions I happen to respect. Virtually everything he says is right on target IMNSHO. And I wasn't replying to you in particular but was replying to the whole list. Why would you feel that you need to reply to my one comment and insult Lyvim at the same time, while assuming that Lyvim or I were arguing any points at all with anyone at all? He was merely offering his point of view. I was agreeing with him and with the fact that it would be difficult to refute his opinion. That's it. Move on. Get over it. You know, for an old fart you can be pretty grumpy sometimes. You're always trying to pick a fight with someone, and you seem to think it's appreciated. It's like having a house guest that tries to take over the household, only you try to do it with your opinions and when that fails you insult people. Here's a news flash for ya Joe. It's doesn't make you a better person when you put others down, it makes you less than them, BECAUSE you put them down. Perhaps you should forward a list to us outlining what things you'd like to defend, comment or argue about and we'll just avoid those items from now on, OK? It'll make life a lot simpler for all of us. Or maybe we can just start a new Joe mailing list instead of an Off-Topic list. Then anyone who wants to hear your insults and condescending assumptions would be able to go there to get their daily dose of Joe. While I'm at it, give us a break on the List Nazi stuff, OK? Netiquette is intended to be a guideline and most people will comply or will be told by others about what they should or shouldn't do on the list. More often than not, you seem to come across as rude or obnoxious about it, and that will send people off to other lists or distros. More and more, we're seeing newbies show up who have never even been on a list before, and aren't even aware that there are considerations to make when dealing with this list, but a suggestion to help them set up their emails client is always better than a link and a terse message. Work on those People Skills will ya? Give it a rest, Dude. Jeez! Who pissed in your Corn Flakes this morning? -- Lanman Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
