Re: [newbie] Wine

[SigmaX]

Robert Yu wrote:
Does Wine support Visual Studio.NET yet?
 



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Lol; highly doubtful (Though technically I don't really know)
You could try downloading MonoBundle 1.1.4 from mono-project.com, or 
whatever the latest it.  It's a project aimed at duplicating Visual 
studio and the .NET framework.  The recently released beta Winforms 
support, which isn't ready for production use yet, but is fun to tinker 
with.  Winforms are expected to be up to par within the next few months, 
and once that's the case then Mono will be a viable substitute for VS 
.NET.  All the same the IDE, MonoDevelop, has been slow in development, 
so if your a newbie looking for ULTRA-easy UI creation, you'd better 
stick with M$ form designer.  But if you need to develop in a production 
environment, Mono is all you'll need :-).  (VS still rocks though, 
weather or not there's a M$ scheme behind it)

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Re: [newbie] WIne with games

[RickSisler]

neo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 cane someone tell me how to install wine because i want to load a game on 
 here 
 thank you
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I would recommend going to the homepage for wine
http://www.winehq.org/

and reading the documentation 
http://www.winehq.org/site/documentation

and also see if the game you want to run has been run successfully,
also have a look at FranksCorner http://frankscorner.org/
for a lot of info.

I would also have a look at Transgaming http://www.transgaming.com/
which uses a version of wine called wineX that runs many games under
linux. Although it's not free, I run it and it works great. In
subscribing to Transgaming you also support wine development.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] Wine 20040213

[Frank]

Had the same problems recently:
try;
#urpmi glibc-static
[ The GUI way is pretty much how Chuck describes it.]
And to run notepad the command is simply:
$notepad
[ You don't use all the rest like you WILL do when you start installing 
other programs.]

Regards
Frank
Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve.
Registered Linux User # 324213 


Chuck Lutz wrote:
Hi,
I'm still getting up to speed with Wine, so I can't help with the first one,
but I
had this error too (static glibc req'd).
I went to the Configuration Package Manager thing (I think that is what it
is called)
and chose Install software. From there I typed glibc in the search line
and also I
listed the packages by update availability (I think that's what it was). It
did a search
and produced an Addable category; in there I was able to identify the
static glibc
libraries. After installing that I was able to compile/configure/install
Wine.
NB: After a conversation on the Wine IRC channel I found out that, contrary
to the
advice in the Wine User Guide, that RPMs are reliable (well, at least those
from the
official winehq.com site) and so I didn't really need to go the the 2+ hour
compile road...
So you might consider grabbing the 06152004 version from the website- it is
the
latest. NB: the graphical configure tool included only works up to the
version before
06152004, but you might not need it anyway, esp. if you are doing a 'no
windows'
install.
Good Luck,
Chuck
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Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:10 PM
Subject: [newbie] Wine 20040213

 

I need Wine to run a handful of programs.
I installed the Wine 20040213 from urpmi and it went fine.  I try to run
wine c:\\windows\\notepad.exe and it says it can't find notepad.exe.  I cd
into the directory holding this file and it still can't find notepad.exe.
I checked the .wine/config file and everything for the [Drive c] is setup
correctly.
So, I urpme'd wine and downloaded the latest build of wine and when it is
doing it's configure, I get the following error:
configure: error: You need to install the static version of glibc to build
Wine.
I went to urpmi glibc, but it says everything is installed.  I went to
   

urpme
 

glibc but it says too many things need that and can't remove it.
So, I have two questions:
1)  How can I get the wine-20040213.rpm to run properly?
or
2)  How can I update my glibc so that the custom Wine build will work?
Thanks for the help.
Ibibhef
   




 


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Re: [newbie] wine-20040615-mdk1.i586.rpm

[roger . white-itnet]

Try using rpm -Uvh wine-20040615-
This should upgrade (the U part) the existing wine installation. If this fails urpm -e wine will remove the old one then you should be able to install the new one.




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Subject:[newbie] wine-20040615-mdk1.i586.rpm


Err hi.

Ok, I'm new to this and Blond so things are taking a little getting use to.

 I've a few programs I wanted to run that as MS bases, sorry but I need them. (Sad really) so as per a what I read I run urpmi -wget wine and loand behold it installed wine for me. (Like that function not sure how it works but hay) Then I got told I should update by a new little chap from OZ. he's ok, trying to help out the rookie. after downloading the above mentioned version I carfully sort out the how to on installing it and followed it very carfully. 

rpm -vi wine-20040615-mdk1.i586.rpm
Preparing packages for installation...
file /usr/lib/wine/advapi32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/avicap32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/avifil32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/cabinet.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/comcat.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/comctl32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/comdlg32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/crtdll.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/crypt32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/ctl3d32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/d3d8.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts with
file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/d3dx8.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dciman32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/ddraw.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/devenum.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dinput.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dinput8.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dplay.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dplayx.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dsound.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/gdi32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/glu32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/icmp.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts with
file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/imaadp32.acm.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/imagehlp.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/imm32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/joystick.drv.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/kernel32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/lz32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts with
file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/mapi32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/mcianim.drv.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/mciavi.drv.so from install of 

Re: [newbie] wine-20040615-mdk1.i586.rpm

[frankieh]

Wolfdreamer wrote:
Err hi.
Ok, I'm new to this and Blond so things are taking a little getting use to.
I've a few programs I wanted to run that as MS bases, sorry but I 
need them. (Sad really) so as per a what I read I run urpmi -wget wine 
and loand behold it installed wine for me. (Like that function not sure 
how it works but hay) Then I got told I should update by a new little 
chap from OZ. he's ok, trying to help out the rookie. after downloading 
the above mentioned version I carfully sort out the how to on installing 
it and followed it very carfully.

rpm -vi wine-20040615-mdk1.i586.rpm
Preparing packages for installation...
file /usr/lib/wine/advapi32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/avicap32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/avifil32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/cabinet.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/comcat.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/comctl32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/comdlg32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/crtdll.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/crypt32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/ctl3d32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/d3d8.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts with
file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/d3dx8.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dciman32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/ddraw.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/devenum.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dinput.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dinput8.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dplay.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dplayx.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/dsound.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/gdi32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/glu32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/icmp.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts with
file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/imaadp32.acm.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/imagehlp.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/imm32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wit
h file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/joystick.drv.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/kernel32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts
with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/lz32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts with
file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/mapi32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/mcianim.drv.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts w
ith file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/mciavi.drv.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/mcicda.drv.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/mciseq.drv.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1 
conflicts wi
th file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
file /usr/lib/wine/mciwave.drv.so from install of 

Re: [newbie] wine-20040615-mdk1.i586.rpm

[Wolfdreamer]

Hi,

 Thank you for the help. 

Sorry I couldn't read the email form Mr. White to well, font to tiny. :

Frankien, thank you. I got it uninstalled then installed I think it worked.


It didn't spit any error's at me. how odd that feels, MS use to do that so often... nice not to have to deal with it. 

Clyde, the not so confused.




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Re: [newbie] wine-20040615-mdk1.i586.rpm

[Cezary Morga]

Dnia pon 5. lipca 2004 01:38, Wolfdreamer napisa:
 rpm -vi wine-20040615-mdk1.i586.rpm
 Preparing packages for installation...
 file /usr/lib/wine/advapi32.dll.so from install of wine-20040615-mdk1
 conflicts
 with file from package libwine1-20030115-4mdk
[cut]
 This is what I got. can some one please tell me what I did wroung??? and
 dose that mean the new version didn't install?? or the older one is
 still working?

It seems, that you have an older version of wine installed. I believe that 
running : $urpmi package name
should help you, 'cause urpmi will upgrade all files to newer version.
You could also try : $rpm -Uvh package name
this will
U : upgrade your package
v : verbose
h : hash (it'll show you installation progress)
-- 
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Re: [newbie] wine-20040615-mdk1.i586.rpm

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Sunday 04 July 2004 08:21 pm, Wolfdreamer wrote:
 Hi,

 Thank you for the help.

 Sorry I couldn't read the email form Mr. White to well, font to tiny.

 :

 snip

 Clyde, the not so confused.


Clyde and Roger:

Probably the reason that you have trouble reading Roger White's response is 
that _both_ he and you are using HTML rather than plain text. The cure is 
simple: Don't use HTML for email, at least on Linux maillists. There are a 
lot of reasons for this -- HTML mails are much larger than plain text ones, 
HTML is a common means of transmitting worms and virii, and HTML looks like 
hell on text-based mail clients. Finally, because many list members do not 
even accept HTML-formatted mail, your message will not be seen by them, thus 
reducing your chances of getting help. Please change your settings.

FWIW, one of the cool things about KMail, Konqueror and other KDE apps is that 
the size of the displayed text can be changed very easily by rotating the 
mouse wheel while depressing the shift key.

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Re: [newbie] Wine 20040213

[Chuck Lutz]

Hi,

I'm still getting up to speed with Wine, so I can't help with the first one,
but I
had this error too (static glibc req'd).

I went to the Configuration Package Manager thing (I think that is what it
is called)
and chose Install software. From there I typed glibc in the search line
and also I
listed the packages by update availability (I think that's what it was). It
did a search
and produced an Addable category; in there I was able to identify the
static glibc
libraries. After installing that I was able to compile/configure/install
Wine.

NB: After a conversation on the Wine IRC channel I found out that, contrary
to the
advice in the Wine User Guide, that RPMs are reliable (well, at least those
from the
official winehq.com site) and so I didn't really need to go the the 2+ hour
compile road...

So you might consider grabbing the 06152004 version from the website- it is
the
latest. NB: the graphical configure tool included only works up to the
version before
06152004, but you might not need it anyway, esp. if you are doing a 'no
windows'
install.

Good Luck,
Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:10 PM
Subject: [newbie] Wine 20040213


 I need Wine to run a handful of programs.

 I installed the Wine 20040213 from urpmi and it went fine.  I try to run
 wine c:\\windows\\notepad.exe and it says it can't find notepad.exe.  I cd
 into the directory holding this file and it still can't find notepad.exe.
 I checked the .wine/config file and everything for the [Drive c] is setup
 correctly.

 So, I urpme'd wine and downloaded the latest build of wine and when it is
 doing it's configure, I get the following error:

 configure: error: You need to install the static version of glibc to build
 Wine.

 I went to urpmi glibc, but it says everything is installed.  I went to
urpme
 glibc but it says too many things need that and can't remove it.

 So, I have two questions:

 1)  How can I get the wine-20040213.rpm to run properly?

 or

 2)  How can I update my glibc so that the custom Wine build will work?

 Thanks for the help.

 Ibibhef








 
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RE: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?

[deedee]

Melissa Reese wrote:
Before I boot back into Mandrake to do a bit more tweaking, I'd like
to know if there's a *simple as possible* tutorial somewhere for
setting up Wine and installing a program into (onto?) it? The
tutorials I've found so far seem to assume that I'm already
comfortable with the idea of manually creating/editing configuration
files in Linux...which I'm not.

Unfortunately, Wine is alpha software. There is a lot of documentation, but  setting 
up Wine (if it doesn't just work for you immediately) is considered an advanced Linux 
skill.

At this point, there's just one Windows program I'd like to see if I
can get to work under Wine (MessageCleaner). If I can get that set up
to work in my Mandrake installation, it will, at the very least, give
me a little extra time to get used to some of the Linux text editors
and/or email/news clients and still be able to do a few specific
things with certain types of text formatting/re-formatting of email
and news group messages.

I agree with Scott. Check out http://appdb.winehq.com and see if anyone else has 
gotten MessageCleaner to work. Also, you might want to join the wine users mailing 
list and ask if anyone there has gotten it working. If someone has, they may be able 
to give you pointers on how to get yours working.

http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users

Also, start with the latest wine release which includes the latest winesetuptk. A lot 
of stuff will be immediately configured for you and give you a leg up on the process. 
The latest wine binaries for Mandrake are located at the following address.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241

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RE: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?

[Scott St. John]

Melissa-

Have you checked the Wine list to see if that program is supported?

-Scott


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Hi,

Before I boot back into Mandrake to do a bit more tweaking, I'd like
to know if there's a *simple as possible* tutorial somewhere for
setting up Wine and installing a program into (onto?) it? The
tutorials I've found so far seem to assume that I'm already
comfortable with the idea of manually creating/editing configuration
files in Linux...which I'm not.

At this point, there's just one Windows program I'd like to see if I
can get to work under Wine (MessageCleaner). If I can get that set up
to work in my Mandrake installation, it will, at the very least, give
me a little extra time to get used to some of the Linux text editors
and/or email/news clients and still be able to do a few specific
things with certain types of text formatting/re-formatting of email
and news group messages.

So...are there any good Wine for *Complete Dummies* tutorials out
there you could recommend? Thanks!

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Melissa

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Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?

[Melissa Reese]

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Hi Scott,

On Monday, December 08, 2003, at 11:05:49 AM PST, you wrote:

 Have you checked the Wine list to see if that program is supported?

I didn't see it listed there, but thought I'd give it a try anyway.
How else will I know if it can work or not? Or, must each program be
specifically addressed by the writers of Wine before it even has a
chance of working?

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RE: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?

[Scott St. John]

Hi Melissa-

I didn't see it listed there, but thought I'd give it a try anyway.
How else will I know if it can work or not? Or, must each program be
specifically addressed by the writers of Wine before it even has a
chance of working?

What does MessageCleaner do?  I am not familiar with it?  In answer to your
question:  there is always a chance that it may work even if it is not on
the list.

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Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?

[Melissa Reese]

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Hi Scott,

On Monday, December 08, 2003, at 11:38:51 AM PST, you wrote:

 What does MessageCleaner do?

Here's the MC site, which describes the various things it does:

http://www.roundhillsoftware.com/MessageCleaner/

My regular Windows email client (The Bat!) does all that and more, so
I only use MC with my news reader, because my Windows news reader
(Forté Agent), while being pretty good in general, doesn't have a very
capable message editor.

I may well find some or all of these features in the various Linux
email/news clients and text editors, but until I get to know all that
they're capable of, I still want to be able to deal with message
composition in email and news in a way more to my liking...hence
wanting to be able to use a utility like MessageCleaner at the moment.

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Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?

[Bryan Phinney]

On Monday 08 December 2003 02:01 pm, Melissa Reese wrote:
 Hi,

 Before I boot back into Mandrake to do a bit more tweaking, I'd like
 to know if there's a *simple as possible* tutorial somewhere for
 setting up Wine and installing a program into (onto?) it? The
 tutorials I've found so far seem to assume that I'm already
 comfortable with the idea of manually creating/editing configuration
 files in Linux...which I'm not.

Well, Mandrake comes with a wine RPM, you should just need to use the Install 
Software link, find wine and install it.  Once you do, it should install a 
daemon called wineserver that should automatically pick up any .exe file that 
you run.  

You may need to edit your wine config file to actually point to your CD drive 
among other things, but since those settings are dependent on your system, I 
am not sure that there is such a thing as an easy howto to tell you how to do 
it.  I can help you get the config setup by asking for pertinent info and 
sending you a copy of the proper settings to use.

If you just want a sample, I can send you a copy of mine offlist, just so that 
you can go through and see what the settings look like but installing the RPM 
should get you pretty close to where you need to be.

Other options would be to buy Crossover Office or WineX since both include 
installation routines and have built in installers for applications.

 So...are there any good Wine for *Complete Dummies* tutorials out
 there you could recommend? Thanks!

My personal recommendation would be to just install the RPM and see where you 
are at and move on from there.  You might be surprised at how quickly you can 
get it going by just installing the RPM and making a few minor changes to the 
/home/user/.wine/config file.

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RE: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?

[Scott St. John]

Melissa-

I use PAN as my newsreader and I will check out what it can/can't do.
Googling for pan message cleaner brings up all kinds of things for the
kitchen :)



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Hi Scott,

I may well find some or all of these features in the various Linux
email/news clients and text editors, but until I get to know all that
they're capable of, I still want to be able to deal with message
composition in email and news in a way more to my liking...hence
wanting to be able to use a utility like MessageCleaner at the moment.

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Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?

[Melissa Reese]

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On Monday 08 December 2003 12:09 pm, Scott St. John wrote:

 Googling for pan message cleaner brings up all kinds of things for
 the kitchen :)

Hee hee!  I already have a dishwasher, and I'm pretty sure it'll run 
under both Linux and Windows (maybe even Wine!).

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Melissa

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Re: [newbie] Wine for Dummies Tutorial?

[Marco Verheul]

On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 19:01, Melissa Reese wrote:
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 Hi,
 
 Before I boot back into Mandrake to do a bit more tweaking, I'd like
 to know if there's a *simple as possible* tutorial somewhere for
 setting up Wine and installing a program into (onto?) it? The
 tutorials I've found so far seem to assume that I'm already
 comfortable with the idea of manually creating/editing configuration
 files in Linux...which I'm not.
 
 At this point, there's just one Windows program I'd like to see if I
 can get to work under Wine (MessageCleaner). If I can get that set up
 to work in my Mandrake installation, it will, at the very least, give
 me a little extra time to get used to some of the Linux text editors
 and/or email/news clients and still be able to do a few specific
 things with certain types of text formatting/re-formatting of email
 and news group messages.
 
 So...are there any good Wine for *Complete Dummies* tutorials out
 there you could recommend? Thanks!
 
 - --
 Melissa

Melissa,

I installed Wine last week and used the most recent package that I
downloaded from sourceforge:

https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241

Click link 20031118 to read how to install. The configuration program
winesetuptk is included in the mdk package, so if you follow the
instruction on the sourceforge you will be able to install and do a
basic configuration.

You might also want to check out Crossover Office at url

http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products/cxoffice/?cw=6dd67914bcd0018829a95261e100bf6b

I tried the trail version and I think it's excellent. Very easy to use.

Good luck, Marco
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Re: [newbie] Wine (or others)

[Greg Meyer]

On Sunday 23 November 2003 04:09 pm, Melissa Reese wrote:
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 Hi,

 I'm now interested in seeing if I can run my favorite Windows email
 client (The Bat!) in my Mandrake.  I've read various accounts of
 people running TB! very well under Wine, and others saying that
 they've had problems (like not being able to completely import all
 folders, etc.). Considering the latter, I'd also be willing to start
 from scratch with it, creating all the accounts afresh, and creating
 all my folders, filter rules, templates, etc.

 Are there programs other than Wine that I might also look into?

 Is there an online tutorial somewhere that explains how one goes about
 installing/using Wine or other similar programs?

Wine is a windows emulator.  It emulates the windows api and allows windows 
programs to run under Linux.  There are other programs that actually allow 
windows to run under linux.  Win4Lin and VMware are these kinds of programs. 
Win4Lin is the cheaper option of you only need the Win9x (including WinME) at 
$89.  VMware costs about $300 but actually creates a virtual PC and allows 
you to run just about any operating system.  Both are commercial programs and 
you need to own a valid license for Windows too.  With Wine you don't need a 
windows license.

I personally use Win4Lin and I highly recommend it.  Here is a screenshot of 
my Mandrake desktop with Win98SE running in a windows.  
http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/win_on_mdk.png
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Re: [newbie] Wine (or others)

[robin]

Melissa Reese wrote:
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Hi,

I'm now interested in seeing if I can run my favorite Windows email 
client (The Bat!) in my Mandrake.  I've read various accounts of 
people running TB! very well under Wine, and others saying that 
they've had problems (like not being able to completely import all 
folders, etc.). Considering the latter, I'd also be willing to start 
from scratch with it, creating all the accounts afresh, and creating 
all my folders, filter rules, templates, etc.

Are there programs other than Wine that I might also look into?

Is there an online tutorial somewhere that explains how one goes about 
installing/using Wine or other similar programs?
I'm not sure if Wine would be good for operating essential services like 
a mail client.  It works for a lot of programs, but it's quirky: your 
program might not run at all, it might run slowly, or it might run fine 
until you use some obscure feature, then crash.  Try wine by all means, 
but you might first consider looking at the multitude of mail programs 
for Linux.  Whatever features make you like the Bat, you'll probably 
find somewhere.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Wine (or others)

[Melissa Reese]

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Hi Robin,

I'm back to Windows for the moment...

On Sunday, November 23, 2003, at 3:19:09 PM PST, you wrote:

 Try wine by all means, but you might first consider looking at the
 multitude of mail programs for Linux. Whatever features make you
 like the Bat, you'll probably find somewhere.

I've looked at several Linux email clients, and I've yet to find
anything that even comes close to The Bat in terms of overall mail
management/interface, filter and template power, or composition (TB!
has many useful plain text editing options that I haven't seen in any
of the Linux clients I've looked at or tried so far).

I've also asked around on some Bat user's mail lists, and *all* of the
Linux users say that they've never seen any Linux email client that
comes close in these areas that are important to me (and to them). For
those with high expectations with regards to email clients, while they
might use Linux for many things, they still keep Windows around so
they can use TB for their email. Others have said that the *only*
reason they're reluctant to make a complete switch to Linux from
Windows is not being able to run TB natively on Linux.

What I really wish for is to have The Bat ported to Linux, so that all
of us can benefit from this amazing email client! :-)  I've been told
that since The Bat is written in Delphi, it shouldn't be too
difficult to port it to Linux (and yes...I've written to the TB
developers asking them to do this).  I just hope it can happen soon.

I'm pretty happy with Knode as a news reader (haven't yet tried slrn
or others), but I'm having a real hard time getting used to what I
feel are pretty major downgrade issues moving from The Bat to any of
the Linux clients I've seen so far.  I'll keep looking and trying, but
so far, the search has been disappointing.

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Melissa

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Re: [newbie] Wine (or others)

[Bryan Phinney]

On Sunday 23 November 2003 04:09 pm, Melissa Reese wrote:
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 Hi,

 I'm now interested in seeing if I can run my favorite Windows email
 client (The Bat!) in my Mandrake.  I've read various accounts of
 people running TB! very well under Wine, and others saying that
 they've had problems (like not being able to completely import all
 folders, etc.). Considering the latter, I'd also be willing to start
 from scratch with it, creating all the accounts afresh, and creating
 all my folders, filter rules, templates, etc.

 Are there programs other than Wine that I might also look into?

 Is there an online tutorial somewhere that explains how one goes about
 installing/using Wine or other similar programs?

I think that Wine comes in RPM's in the distribution.  Just urpmi wine and it 
should install for you.

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Re: [newbie] Wine and Memory

[robin]

The Other wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:44:47 +0200
robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have 128MB of RAM.  I ran Wine two different ways to see if
one of my Microsoft Win95B programs would run.
If it's a Windows error message (rather than wine saying something
in the terminal) then your problem is probably not RAM. 
Insufficient memory is Windows-speak for something made the
program crash, but I haven't a clue what it was.


===
Here's what the terminal window I used to run Wine said:
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft Money]$ wine msmoney
fixme:dialog:MSGBOX_OnInit system modal msgbox ! Not modal yet.
--
I did get a small window saying Microsoft Money, then another window
opened up saying:
Not enough memory is available.  If you have several applications
open at the same time, you might need to close one of them before
you start Money.
All you can do is click the Okay button to close this box.  Then
the terminal window that had the ! Not modal yet (above) line
returns to the prompt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Micorsoft Money]$
I don't know what the Wine error message means - you'd have to check the 
documentation (which at least is likely to be more helpful than the 
Windows error message).  Does the program run OK when you boot into Windows?

It's worth checking your Wine configuration to make sure swap is set up 
correctly.

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Re: [newbie] Wine and Memory

[robin]

The Other wrote:
11/15/03

Hello All,

I have 128MB of RAM.  I ran Wine two different ways to see if one of
my Microsoft Win95B programs would run.
Method 1)  change to the Win95 program directory (already installed,
this is a dual boot Win95B and Mandrake 9.1 system.)  Run Wine with
the program name.   I got an out of memory error.
Method 2)  Point Wine at the cdrom installation disk for the Windows
program and run Wine on the setup file.  I had to select
Reinstall as the installation choice since I hadn't uninstalled the
program. The reinstall goes okay, but when it comes up to run the
program I get the same out of memory error.
Is my solution to get more memory?

If it's a Windows error message (rather than wine saying something in 
the terminal) then your problem is probably not RAM.  Insufficient 
memory is Windows-speak for something made the program crash, but I 
haven't a clue what it was.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] Wine and Memory

[The Other]

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:44:47 +0200
robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have 128MB of RAM.  I ran Wine two different ways to see if
  one of my Microsoft Win95B programs would run.
  
 If it's a Windows error message (rather than wine saying something
 in the terminal) then your problem is probably not RAM. 
 Insufficient memory is Windows-speak for something made the
 program crash, but I haven't a clue what it was.

===
Here's what the terminal window I used to run Wine said:
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft Money]$ wine msmoney
fixme:dialog:MSGBOX_OnInit system modal msgbox ! Not modal yet.
--

I did get a small window saying Microsoft Money, then another window
opened up saying:

Not enough memory is available.  If you have several applications
open at the same time, you might need to close one of them before
you start Money.

All you can do is click the Okay button to close this box.  Then
the terminal window that had the ! Not modal yet (above) line
returns to the prompt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Micorsoft Money]$

==

Does this help to explain the problem?
The Other.

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Re: [newbie] wine

[deedee]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 12:52:04 +1300, Antonovich wrote:
 has anyone managed to get the wine that comes with 9.2 to work yet? 
 Nothing seems to be able to be installed. It says that WineSetupTK
 does not exist in the config panel...
 Any suggestions? I have installed using the control centre and it
 looks ok.

I use wine with 9.1. There shouldn't be any problem about using it with 
9.2. Did you install winesetuptk? It is a different program which must 
be installed separately. Running it will help configure wine to the 
idiosyncrasies of your system.

All the most recent Mandrake binaries for wine and winesetuptk are 
located at:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241

Winesetuptk 0.7 has just been released. This latest version contains a 
new winedefault.reg. You don't need to run regedit winedefault.reg 
any more to install a windows registry for wine's use, and it has been 
updated to configure all the latest features of wine.

If you install a later wine than came with your package, it is important 
to remove the previous wine first before installing it. I use the 
Mandrake control center, and it does a thorough job of removing the old 
wine packages.

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Re: [newbie] Wine

[Derek Jennings]

On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 8:06 pm, Graham Watkins wrote:
 Jamie Taylor wrote:

 Oh, and don't bother with Crossover - it takes forever to install
 anything and then it doesn't work anyway.  I put it on one day and took
 it off in disgust the day after.

I disagree with that statement.
Crossover-Office is real easy to install in my experience, and works precisely 
as Codeweavers says it does for supported applications. Supported 
applications are just selected from a GUI. You just put in the CDs when 
prompted.

If you are installing the Crossover-plugin version, then the supported plugins 
are downloaded for you over the Internet and installed for you.

And if you do have problems, their support staff are the most efficient I have 
ever encountered. Really nice people.

Moreover Codeweavers are the single biggest contributor of code to the Wine 
project.


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Re: [newbie] Wine

[mike]

Jamie Taylor wrote:
Has anyone had any success at getting Wine to work properly.
I've compiled the source and installed it then ran winesetuptk but I can't 
seem to get any Windows programs to work.
I will soon try to migrate all of my PC stuff to Linux based programs as I 
want to get windows off my pc ASAP.
I want to use Photoshop and a few other programs like Acid and Sound Forge.
If I had the cash I would get Crossover Office but I don't so any links or 
help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Jamie Taylor

P.S. please do not say use The Gimp because I am used to Photoshop and I don't 
like The Gimp's user interface.
Try this link Jamie,It has some info that helped me before with wine.

http://www.frankscorner.org/

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Re: [newbie] Wine

[deedee]

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:19:07 +0100, Jamie Taylor wrote:
 Has anyone had any success at getting Wine to work properly.
 I've compiled the source and installed it then ran winesetuptk but I
 can't seem to get any Windows programs to work.
 I will soon try to migrate all of my PC stuff to Linux based programs
 as I want to get windows off my pc ASAP.
 I want to use Photoshop and a few other programs like Acid and Sound
 Forge.
 If I had the cash I would get Crossover Office but I don't so any
 links or help would be much appreciated.

You've already received a link for Frank's Corner. Wine developers hang 
out and answer questions on the wine newsgroup at 
comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine. There is a mailing list for wine-users 
which can be subscribed to at 
http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users -- wine developers 
also answer questions there.

There are two issues with regard to Wine. Since it's alpha software, one 
issue is to get it properly working. Did you run winecheck after 
compiling and installing source? That will identify possible areas 
where your Wine may be having trouble.

The second issue is getting your applications to work under Wine. Not 
everything does. Not every dll and api for MS-Windows has been created. 
If your software needs something that hasn't yet been done, it probably 
won't work well, assuming that it works at all.

You might inquire on Wine lists if anyone else has gotten your program 
favorites to work.

A major advantage offered by CodeWeavers is the fact that their 
developers are paid to work on those problems. If they take on your 
software, it is guaranteed that it will be able to work (because they 
make certain all the dlls and apis it needs are created).

It is possible to interest developers on the Wine lists in your 
software, but they are doing it as volunteers and they will need a lot 
of input from you in order to succeed.
 
Whether or not you get your programs to work under Wine has a lot to do 
with how much time and effort you're willing to put into it. I've had 
no problem with getting Wine itself to work, however, and to run quite 
a few programs, though not all that I would like it to run. I'm not 
running any of the ones you mention. 

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Re: [newbie] Wine

[Liechti]

hi jamie!
did you copy the config file from the soruces to your $HOMR/.wine/? you can find 
it in the documentation/samples/ folder. create a folder called .wine(this is 
a hidden folder) in you home dir and put the config file into it.

you have to edit this things to your mountpoints:
[Drive A]
 Path = /mnt/floppy
 Type = floppy
 Label = Floppy
 Serial = 87654321
 Device = /dev/fd0

if you've got a windows partition, use it. there are all needed dlls installed 
and so on, most of the programs will work. if you don't have a windows 
partition, you've to create a fake windows ;)

with windows partition:
hust edit the path here to your win partition
[Drive C]
 Path = /mnt/win_c
 Type = hd
 Label = MS-DOS
 Filesystem = win95

without:
create folder fakewin on the root or somewhere else, you've to edit the path in 
the drive c section.
[Drive C]
 Path = /fakewin/
 Type = hd
 Label = MS-DOS
 Filesystem = win95

you can copy these to things:
[Drive E]
Path = /tmp
Type = hd
Label = Tmp Drive
Filesystem = win95


[Drive F]
Path = ${HOME}
Type = network
Label = Home
Filesystem = win95

these things are the most importent!!:
[wine]
 Windows = c:\windows
 System = c:\windows\system
 Temp = e:\
 Path = c:\windows;c:\windows\system;e:\;e:\test;f:\
 Profile = c:\windows\Profiles\Administrator

you've to edit the paths corectly!
if you're using wine without a windows partition, you've to create all these 
folders on your own! if you dont, wine wont work!

and thats the way the cookie crumbles ;)
i did these things and wine worked. but my photoshop isnt working. version 6 AND 
7 don't work! i could install them, but cannot start them... :(
if you get it work, please let me know!

hope it helpes

greets from the called sweitzerland ;)

remo

Zitat von Jamie Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Has anyone had any success at getting Wine to work properly.
 I've compiled the source and installed it then ran winesetuptk but I can't 
 seem to get any Windows programs to work.
 I will soon try to migrate all of my PC stuff to Linux based programs as I 
 want to get windows off my pc ASAP.
 I want to use Photoshop and a few other programs like Acid and Sound Forge.
 If I had the cash I would get Crossover Office but I don't so any links or 
 help would be much appreciated.
 
 Cheers
 
 Jamie Taylor
 
 P.S. please do not say use The Gimp because I am used to Photoshop and I
 don't 
 like The Gimp's user interface.
 
 




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Re: [newbie] Wine setup

[deedee]

Hi Mike,

In general, I've not found any issues as such between Mandrake Linux 
and Wine. I have Wine working on Mandrake 8.1 and 9.1 systems. In both 
cases, the applications I use Wine for were installed on a Win98SE 
partition before Linux was installed on the box.

I'm using the default setup with only Wine dlls (builtin) for mswindows. 
The applications, of course, use their own (native) dlls. I haven't 
booted up mswindows for ages and do everything that I need with those 
programs via Wine under Linux.

I do have a rule of thumb for dealing with all things Linux, however. I 
check first to make sure that something really isn't working before I 
start scouring How Tos to fix it. My experience with Linux is that 
it's easy to wrongly conclude something isn't working, and fixing 
something that isn't broken can lead to big headaches.

There are two separate issues with Wine: Is your Wine installation okay? 
And, what are the particular needs of each application you want to run 
under it?

Wine doesn't run everything. I believe it will run Kazaa. although I 
personally haven't tried running Kazaa.

I'm using an old CodeWeavers Wine (April 2002) on the Mandrake 8.1 
system and, on the Mandrake 9.1 system, I'm using the August 2003 Wine 
compiled on Mandrake 9.1 and available on the Winehq Italia site at 
http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/ -- both were RPMs and 
installed easily.

CodeWeavers comes with winesetuptk. The Winehq Italia site has a 
winesetuptk that you can download. I used that to setup Wine and 
produce the original config and folders. Once done, I then modified 
anything that didn't work well for me.

Also, on the Mandrake 9.1 CDs, there's a graphical frontend that I've 
found useful for setting up individual mswindows applications. It's 
called XWine (not the same as WineX, the Wine for gamers). There's an 
updated version at http://darken.tuxfamily.org -- the site's in French, 
but click the flag to go to English.

On your fake_windows directory, everything should be set up just the 
same as it would have been using an actual mswindows release. So if the 
dll goes in c:/windows/system in mswindows, then it would go in 
~/.wine/fake_windows/windows/system under Wine.

There's a mailing list for Wine users at
http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users
and an active newsgroup that can be read using your browser via Google.

Sorry for the length of the post. I know that people can find Wine 
confusing.

deedee

On Sun Sep 7 11:46:11 2003 Michael Lothian wrote:
 I've been through the howto on wiki but I'm still having difficulties
 
 I copyed the required dlls from my XP installation and used the latest 
 version of wine from where the artical recommended.
 
 I managed to install Kazaa (some of the fonts were a bit funny) but it 
 would just gointo debug mode when I tried to run it
 
 I then tried copying all my dll files over into wine but that had even 
 more dire consquences ie kazaa wouldn't even install
 
 So to the people who have wine working:
 
 What dlls did you use. Which folers did you put them in (system or 
 system32) and what did you pop into your wine configuration file?
 
 Also is it recomened to use winex from transgaming for games? Or is 
 there an alternative?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [newbie] Wine setup

[Josenildo Marques]

On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 15:37, deedee wrote:
 Hi Mike,
 
 In general, I've not found any issues as such between Mandrake Linux 
 and Wine. I have Wine working on Mandrake 8.1 and 9.1 systems. In both 
 cases, the applications I use Wine for were installed on a Win98SE 
 partition before Linux was installed on the box.
 
 I'm using the default setup with only Wine dlls (builtin) for mswindows. 
 The applications, of course, use their own (native) dlls. I haven't 
 booted up mswindows for ages and do everything that I need with those 
 programs via Wine under Linux.
 
 I do have a rule of thumb for dealing with all things Linux, however. I 
 check first to make sure that something really isn't working before I 
 start scouring How Tos to fix it. My experience with Linux is that 
 it's easy to wrongly conclude something isn't working, and fixing 
 something that isn't broken can lead to big headaches.
 
 There are two separate issues with Wine: Is your Wine installation okay? 
 And, what are the particular needs of each application you want to run 
 under it?
 
 Wine doesn't run everything. I believe it will run Kazaa. although I 
 personally haven't tried running Kazaa.
 
 I'm using an old CodeWeavers Wine (April 2002) on the Mandrake 8.1 
 system and, on the Mandrake 9.1 system, I'm using the August 2003 Wine 
 compiled on Mandrake 9.1 and available on the Winehq Italia site at 
 http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/ -- both were RPMs and 
 installed easily.
 
 CodeWeavers comes with winesetuptk. The Winehq Italia site has a 
 winesetuptk that you can download. I used that to setup Wine and 
 produce the original config and folders. Once done, I then modified 
 anything that didn't work well for me.
 
 Also, on the Mandrake 9.1 CDs, there's a graphical frontend that I've 
 found useful for setting up individual mswindows applications. It's 
 called XWine (not the same as WineX, the Wine for gamers). There's an 
 updated version at http://darken.tuxfamily.org -- the site's in French, 
 but click the flag to go to English.
 
 On your fake_windows directory, everything should be set up just the 
 same as it would have been using an actual mswindows release. So if the 
 dll goes in c:/windows/system in mswindows, then it would go in 
 ~/.wine/fake_windows/windows/system under Wine.
 
 There's a mailing list for Wine users at
 http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-users
 and an active newsgroup that can be read using your browser via Google.
 
 Sorry for the length of the post. I know that people can find Wine 
 confusing.
 
 deedee
 
 On Sun Sep 7 11:46:11 2003 Michael Lothian wrote:
  I've been through the howto on wiki but I'm still having difficulties
  
  I copyed the required dlls from my XP installation and used the latest 
  version of wine from where the artical recommended.
  
  I managed to install Kazaa (some of the fonts were a bit funny) but it 
  would just gointo debug mode when I tried to run it
  
  I then tried copying all my dll files over into wine but that had even 
  more dire consquences ie kazaa wouldn't even install
  
  So to the people who have wine working:
  
  What dlls did you use. Which folers did you put them in (system or 
  system32) and what did you pop into your wine configuration file?
  
  Also is it recomened to use winex from transgaming for games? Or is 
  there an alternative?
  
  Thanks
  
  Mike

Excellent explanation. Thank you.
Par hazard I've found a tutorial here.

http://www.merlinux.org/merfaq/kazaalite2.1_english.html



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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Poogle]

 On Friday 15 August 2003 17:37, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this
  great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had
  Windows on my box - and never will.
 
  But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started
  in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program
  called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and
  I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app
  only - no Unix/Linux version.
 
  Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when
  they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis
  with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too
  enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running
  Windows applications through an emulator.
 
  So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program.
  This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine
  setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a
  *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders*
  like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so
  I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of
  course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders*
  on my system, no matter what I type.
 
  The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm
  confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very
  trivial - hiccup.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

you got me curious so I d/l the trial version of Derive, with crossover office 
1.3.5 it crashes with an error message about VBOX, so no go there, but with 
Win4Lin  (with Win98) it installs properly and will open and close the 
included files.
As to whether it will work I can't comment as it's about 30 years since I 
studied maths/statistics so I can't remember enough about the subject  (hangs 
head in shame) to try to work with it.
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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Saturday 16 August 2003 11:09 am, Poogle wrote:

snip

 you got me curious so I d/l the trial version of Derive, with
 crossover office 1.3.5 it crashes with an error message about
 VBOX, so no go there, but with Win4Lin  (with Win98) it
 installs properly and will open and close the included files.
 As to whether it will work I can't comment as it's about 30
 years since I studied maths/statistics so I can't remember
 enough about the subject  (hangs head in shame) to try to work
 with it.

/snip

OK Poogle, Frankie and all who helped me on this one : The fact 
is that I don't have a copy of that other OS, in any flavor 
whatsoever. So I tried to run *Derive* from Wine and from 
Crossover - with no success. Win4Lin may be OK, but as far as I 
understand it requires a copy of another OS - right ?

If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on an 
old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no 
circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers in 
our home.

I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* 
won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I 
can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about 
installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess 
it's a dead end too ?

Thanks again, all.

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Paul]

On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* 
 won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I 
 can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about 
 installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess 
 it's a dead end too ?

You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a bootdiskette there,
get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from somewhere on the diskette,
don't forget mscdex, format, himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the
cdromdriver in /config.sys. That should get you going, I think.
Paul
 (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am getting
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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Paul]

On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:17, Paul wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but *Derive* 
  won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either. Possibly I 
  can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue whatsoever about 
  installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off a CD , so I guess 
  it's a dead end too ?
 
 You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a bootdiskette there,
 get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from somewhere on the diskette,
 don't forget mscdex, format, himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the
 cdromdriver in /config.sys. That should get you going, I think.
 Paul
  (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am getting
 OLD!)


Try

http://www.bootdisk.com

as the name says, bootdisks

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Saturday 16 August 2003 01:17 pm, Paul wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 16:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but
  *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either.
  Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue
  whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off
  a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ?

 You might know someone who has W98 running. Create a
 bootdiskette there, get the CDROM-driver for the Thinkpad from
 somewhere on the diskette, don't forget mscdex, format,
 himem.sys, fdisk and sys.com. Stick the cdromdriver in
 /config.sys. That should get you going, I think. Paul
  (who had a lot to do with M$ in the older days... Damn, I am
 getting OLD!)

Well, thanks Paul. I'll try this road even if I know next to 
nothing about Windows. Never thought I needed it.

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[HaywireMac]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:50:31 +
Kaj Haulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:

 If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on an 
 old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no 
 circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers in 
 our home.

I *was* able to install the app under Winex3, but I get 

wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...

when I try to run it.

I would check the Transgaming site. I know it's mainly for games, but
they claim to support other apps as well, like Photoshop and such, so
you might get some help there.

I was really hopeful it would work, sorry.

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Saturday 16 August 2003 08:23 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 08:50, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 snip

  If yes, I think my only option is to somehow get my hands on
  an old, used Windows PC just to run this app. Under no
  circumstances will I tolerate Windows on my *real* computers
  in our home.
 
  I happen to own an old Thinkpad 380 with OS/2 on it, but
  *Derive* won't run under OS/2's emulation of Win3.1 either.
  Possibly I can get a copy of Win98, but I have no clue
  whatsoever about installing it - the Thinkpad can't boot off
  a CD , so I guess it's a dead end too ?
 
  Thanks again, all.
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 IF you are dead set on getting a copy of Windows onto that
 laptop I know of one easy way to do it.

 I also can ftp you a copy of w98 if you wish.

 Copy from the W98 Dir (Using ftp if you must) to the laptop
 the Windows Setup directory onto the laptops hard drive.

 Boot with boot diskette to an DOS prompt.  Enter the dir you
 copied your setup files to, run setup.exe.  Done.

 Win98 is stupid enough to install from HDD.  Win2k is too...
 Dunno about XP but your hardware is old enough i suspect that
 isn't an issue.

Thanks a lot, Femme. I already managed to get my hands on a CD 
with Win98 SE (hence the late reply). It's an OEM edition but i 
will give it a try. Now, my problem is to create a boot-floppy. 
If I understand you correctly, there is a setup directory on the 
CD, so I'll follow your advice once I have a boot floppy.

Maybe I'm a little nave : I've been browsing around this OEM CD 
to find a Windows equivalent of Linux's rawrite and a boot 
image, but with no luck. As someone suggested I'll try to pull 
one off the net.

I guess, that getting win98 onto this old Thinkpad is my best 
option for my daughter. That way her *main* PC can stay *clean*.

Thanks again

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RE: [newbie] Wine question

[Frankie]

When you install wine, it creates a fake enviroment for windows apps.
usually in /var/lib/wine
eg:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] www]# cd /var/lib/wine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wine]# ls
autoexec.bat  config.sys  My Documents/  Program Files/  windows/

as you can see, you have all the typical directories a windows program could possibly 
look for.

So in the path, just use the c:\program files\someappname

and wine will see to it that it gets put in the right place.

Wine bascially fools those apps into thinking that c:\x actuall exists
when really its putting the stuff in /var/lib/wine/program files/somedir


make sense?

now go forth and konquer. :-)


regards


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Sent: Saturday, 16 August 2003 4:37 AM
To: Newbie
Subject: [newbie] Wine question


Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this 
great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had 
Windows on my box - and never will. 

But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started 
in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program 
called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and 
I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app 
only - no Unix/Linux version.

Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when 
they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis 
with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too 
enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running 
Windows applications through an emulator.

So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. 
This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine 
setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a 
*folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* 
like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so 
I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of 
course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* 
on my system, no matter what I type.

The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm 
confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very 
trivial - hiccup.

Thanks in advance

Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Friday 15 August 2003 06:52 pm, Frankie wrote:
 When you install wine, it creates a fake enviroment for
 windows apps. usually in /var/lib/wine
 eg:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www]# cd /var/lib/wine
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wine]# ls
 autoexec.bat  config.sys  My Documents/  Program Files/ 
 windows/

 as you can see, you have all the typical directories a windows
 program could possibly look for.

 So in the path, just use the c:\program files\someappname

 and wine will see to it that it gets put in the right place.

 Wine bascially fools those apps into thinking that c:\x
 actuall exists when really its putting the stuff in
 /var/lib/wine/program files/somedir


 make sense?


Thanks, Frankie. I see those dir's in my tree. No succes though 
to install the #%$ program *derive*. Then I tried to install 
the Crossover suite. It brought me a little further and actually 
installed the app. However, when trying to run it, it exits with 
the very informative message : *unknown error*. 

Hmm... I think I'll give up. Maybe I can buy an old Windows-box 
for my daughter just to run that app, because the info says 
it'll run on everything (winders, that is) from 9.x to XP 
(whatever that is).

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Friday 15 August 2003 04:37 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

 So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program.
 This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine
 setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a
 *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders*
 like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so
 I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of
 course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders*
 on my system, no matter what I type.

 The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm
 confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very
 trivial - hiccup.

 Thanks in advance

 Kaj Haulrich.

When I install games under WineX (game specific version of Wine from 
Transgaming) and it asks for where, I just accept the defaults (ok) and it 
installs it in its correct places. In WineXs' case, thats:

.transgaming/c_drive/Program Files/name of game

You might try that just accepting whatever defaults it offers.

There is also vmware...

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Harv Nelson]

Hi Kaj,

I'm having something of the same sorts of problems with a program I'm 
trying to run with wine.

Try this WinTools GUI set up aid:

http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/

It will make all the necessary directories and has an Installer of 
sorts.  There is some additional education on the site. 

Be aware that wine is a work in progress.  There are new RPM's built 
nearly every day.   Check WineHQ http://www.winehq.com/.  You might want 
to try WineX, also   http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/winex.html

GL

Harv / AI9NL

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this 
great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had 
Windows on my box - and never will. 

But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started 
in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program 
called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and 
I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app 
only - no Unix/Linux version.

Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when 
they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis 
with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too 
enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running 
Windows applications through an emulator.

So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program. 
This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine 
setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a 
*folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders* 
like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so 
I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of 
course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders* 
on my system, no matter what I type.

The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm 
confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very 
trivial - hiccup.

Thanks in advance

Kaj Haulrich.
 



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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Friday 15 August 2003 07:48 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 15 August 2003 04:37 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
  So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive*
  program. This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I
  typed *wine setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask
  me for a *folder* for installation. The screen suggest
  strange *folders* like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't
  have such *folders*, so I typed : /usr/share/derive (having
  created that *folder* of course. But the program doesn't
  seem able to find any *folders* on my system, no matter what
  I type.
 
  The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm
  confident some of you can help me out on this - probably
  very trivial - hiccup.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Kaj Haulrich.

 When I install games under WineX (game specific version of
 Wine from Transgaming) and it asks for where, I just accept
 the defaults (ok) and it installs it in its correct places. In
 WineXs' case, thats:

 .transgaming/c_drive/Program Files/name of game

 You might try that just accepting whatever defaults it offers.

 There is also vmware...

Thanks Ronald, but isn't vmware a different beast ? As far as I 
know (almost zero) vmware is not an emulator, but requires a 
full and licensed copy of this other *operating system* to run 
on Linux ???

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Michael Lothian]

Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff

But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux are the same 
type and have the same functions.

Mike

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

On Friday 15 August 2003 09:40 pm, Harv Nelson wrote:
 

Hi Kaj,

I'm having something of the same sorts of problems with a
program I'm trying to run with wine.
Try this WinTools GUI set up aid:

http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/

It will make all the necessary directories and has an
Installer of sorts.  There is some additional education on
the site.
Be aware that wine is a work in progress.  There are new
RPM's built nearly every day.   Check WineHQ
http://www.winehq.com/.  You might want to try WineX, also  
http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/winex.html

GL

Harv / AI9NL

   

Thanks Harv, - I'll give it a try, but wine is quite OK on my 
system, so I guess it is this application from Texas that's 
misbehaving. When I accept the default (c:\programs) it just 
refuses the whole idea : can't locate *folders*. 

Which arises another rant : This application (Derive) is meant 
for math students and developed by Texas Instruments. I don't 
know much about Texas, but where I live universities use 
Unix/Linux. I have great respect for Texas Instruments and their 
fine calculators and thusly can't believe they are 
Microsoft-Only. My geography might be wrong, though : Redmond is 
the capitol of Texas ?

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Friday 15 August 2003 11:47 pm, Michael Lothian wrote:
 Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff

 But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux
 are the same type and have the same functions.

 Mike


Mike - what free programs ???

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Harv Nelson]

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

On Friday 15 August 2003 09:40 pm, Harv Nelson wrote:
 

Hi Kaj,

I'm having something of the same sorts of problems with a
program I'm trying to run with wine.
Try this WinTools GUI set up aid:

http://www.franksworld.net/winetools/

It will make all the necessary directories and has an
Installer of sorts.  There is some additional education on
the site.
Be aware that wine is a work in progress.  There are new
RPM's built nearly every day.   Check WineHQ
http://www.winehq.com/.  You might want to try WineX, also  
http://digilander.libero.it/winehqitalia/winex.html

GL

Harv / AI9NL

   

Thanks Harv, - I'll give it a try, but wine is quite OK on my 
system, so I guess it is this application from Texas that's 
misbehaving. When I accept the default (c:\programs) it just 
refuses the whole idea : can't locate *folders*. 

Which arises another rant : This application (Derive) is meant 
for math students and developed by Texas Instruments. I don't 
know much about Texas, but where I live universities use 
Unix/Linux. I have great respect for Texas Instruments and their 
fine calculators and thusly can't believe they are 
Microsoft-Only. My geography might be wrong, though : Redmond is 
the capitol of Texas ?

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If you installed wine under your user name, it should have created a 
directory named .wine (don't miss the dot ... /home/user/.wine ).  In 
that directory there should be another directory called fakewindows 
or, if you use the WineTools setup, the directory will be called simply 
C (an acknowledgement of what Windows likes to call your linux hda, 
C:\ ... /home/user/.wine/C ).   C will contain a bunch of 
directories that pretty much mirrors the look of a  normal Windows hard 
drive.

You can set up KDE so that the files with an .exe extension will be 
passed to wine automaticlly (if WineTools didn't do it for you)

RE Texas Insturments:  They used to put out stuff that even ran on a 
Commodore 64 ... but that was a while back.  I'm wondering if your 
Derive program is just an old script  that might be run with dosemu?

Where I live, the  Great State of Wisconsin,  on America's  North Coast 
(Lake Superior/Lake Michigan), the University of Wisconsin has recently 
terminated all of it's site licensing agreements with Microsoft

http://www.doit.wisc.edu/news/story.asp?filename=127

much as the City of Munich in Germany did recently.This will force 
students who have not already purchased software/licenses at lowered 
rates, to seek cheaper (Open Source) alternatives. 

I read somplace (I think the Register) that Bill Gates had recently 
dumped 26 million in M$ stock holdings ... and his cheif lacky, Steve 
Balmer had dumped stock valued at 1.45 BILLION!  Perhaps that is the 
best hand-writting-on-the-wall yet.

RE Texas:  Here in the US, we are waiting patiently for the Congress to 
pass legislation admitting that the South actually did win the Civil War 
of 1865.  This will allow those southern states (Texas among them) to 
secede from the Union with grace ... and those states in the north, that 
are so inclined, can seek a union with Canada.  Our interests here, more 
nearly match those of the Canadians rather than the interests of the 
Texas/Washington DC/Wall Street/Redmond axis.

Let the flame war begin  :-)

Best regards, and good luck for the girls

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Michael Lothian]

Well mathplot is on mandrake

http://sourceforge.net/search/ with the word math broaught up loads of 
things

Try matching something simialar

And then get your daugter to get her uni to switch lol

Mike

Kaj Haulrich wrote:

On Friday 15 August 2003 11:47 pm, Michael Lothian wrote:
 

Ah my uni uses Maple and Matlab for maths stuff

But why not see if some of the free maths programs on linux
are the same type and have the same functions.
Mike

   

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

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On Friday 15 August 2003 17:37, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 Through the years I've noticed that quite a few people on this
 great list dual boots Windows occasionally. I've never had
 Windows on my box - and never will.

 But right now I have a problem : My oldest daughter just started
 in college and her math teacher demands her to buy a program
 called *Derive*. It's a math program from Texas Instruments and
 I've visited their website just to find out it's a Windows app
 only - no Unix/Linux version.

 Well, my daughters scuttled their preinstalled Windows-crap when
 they bought their computers and are using Linux on a daily basis
 with no problems insofar. So I told them - maybe a little too
 enthusiastic - that Linux can do anything, including running
 Windows applications through an emulator.

 So I just installed wine and downloaded the *Derive* program.
 This seems to be a file called *setup.exe*. Then, I typed *wine
 setup.exe* and everything seemed OK until it ask me for a
 *folder* for installation. The screen suggest strange *folders*
 like *c:\programs* etc.. (???) - I don't have such *folders*, so
 I typed : /usr/share/derive (having created that *folder* of
 course. But the program doesn't seem able to find any *folders*
 on my system, no matter what I type.

 The man pages for wine do not mention this problem, but I'm
 confident some of you can help me out on this - probably very
 trivial - hiccup.

 Thanks in advance

 Kaj Haulrich.

Perhaps you could try this other Wine

http://www.codeweavers.com/technology/wine/

But you have to uninstall the one you have before installing it. It has a GUI 
for setting things up.
Good luck.

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Kaj Haulrich]

On Friday 15 August 2003 11:59 pm, Harv Nelson wrote:

snip

 RE Texas Insturments:  They used to put out stuff that even
 ran on a Commodore 64 ... but that was a while back.  I'm
 wondering if your Derive program is just an old script  that
 might be run with dosemu?

/snip

No, I've tried that, of course. It seems to be *graphical*.

snip

 Where I live, the  Great State of Wisconsin,  on America's 
 North Coast (Lake Superior/Lake Michigan), the University of
 Wisconsin has recently terminated all of it's site licensing
 agreements with Microsoft

 http://www.doit.wisc.edu/news/story.asp?filename=127

 much as the City of Munich in Germany did recently.This
 will force students who have not already purchased
 software/licenses at lowered rates, to seek cheaper (Open
 Source) alternatives.

/snip

Well, the Munich deal was a breakthrough here in Europe insofar 
public administration is concerned. But scientists, students and 
other nice people have been using Linux for years. Not because 
it is cheaper, but because it's open.

snip

 I read somplace (I think the Register) that Bill Gates had
 recently dumped 26 million in M$ stock holdings ... and his
 cheif lacky, Steve Balmer had dumped stock valued at 1.45
 BILLION!  Perhaps that is the best hand-writting-on-the-wall
 yet.

/snip

Would you buy a share ???

snip

 RE Texas:  Here in the US, we are waiting patiently for the
 Congress to pass legislation admitting that the South actually
 did win the Civil War of 1865.  This will allow those southern
 states (Texas among them) to secede from the Union with grace
 ... and those states in the north, that are so inclined, can
 seek a union with Canada.  Our interests here, more nearly
 match those of the Canadians rather than the interests of the
 Texas/Washington DC/Wall Street/Redmond axis.

 Let the flame war begin  :-)

 Best regards, and good luck for the girls

 Harv / AI9NL
 Washburn, Wisconsin

/snip

Same here in Europe, Harv. The Pope is far away from Scandinavia.

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Re: [newbie] Wine question

[Bryan Tyson]

On Friday 15 August 2003 17:29, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

 Hmm... I think I'll give up. Maybe I can buy an old Windows-box
 for my daughter just to run that app, because the info says
 it'll run on everything (winders, that is) from 9.x to XP
 (whatever that is).

Have you considered VMWare or Win4Lin?


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Re: [newbie] wine problems

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Saturday 09 August 2003 07:27 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:

 Use Gnutella... far easier  it scans kazaa too

Or mldonkey - I've had far better luck with it.

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Re: [newbie] wine problems

[Heather/Femme]

On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 19:26, - netmaniac - wrote:
 I'm trying to install kazaa using wine on my mdk9.1 but I receive a
 
 file_set_error: No such file or directory
 fixme:ntdll:RtlNtStatusToDosError no mapping for 0001869f
 
 during the kazaa's setup process. I googled and figured out that these mdk 
 rpms are broken. So, I downloaded other rpms but I receive a Segmentation 
 Fault when starting wine (I tried more than one rpm).
 
 Suggestions?
 
 regards
 netmaniac
Use Gnutella... far easier  it scans kazaa too
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Re: [newbie] wine problems

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 On Saturday 09 August 2003 07:27 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
  Use Gnutella... far easier  it scans kazaa too

 Or mldonkey - I've had far better luck with it.

There is another Wine developed by CodeWeavers. Do you guys know it ?

http://www.codeweavers.com/technology/wine/


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Re: [newbie] Wine

[Robin Turner]

Lee Wiggers wrote:
All this wine talk made me curious enough to install the latest and try to run the last program keeping me with a windows box.  Act!

Problem:

I installed the RPM wine-20030618-mdk9.1.i586.rpm without a problem.

Now..How do I configure and use the program?

I know, RTFM.  I am, but it seems like they assume I'm smarter than I am, as usual.  I'm getting a complex.
Try xwine - it's an all-purpose frontend for running and configuring wine.

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Re: [newbie] WINE configuration

[Inhabitant of Zion]

  I see the
 documentation is quite extensive. Is there a simple way to do this 


Usually I find if there is quite extensive documentation then simple
way is likely to be a proverbial white rabbit!

But I am happy to be proved wrong... 

I am toying with the idea of giving wineX a go at some stage.

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Re: [newbie] WINE configuration

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On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 23:31, Marco Verheul wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'd like to set up WINE on my mdk9.1 machine, but I see the
 documentation is quite extensive. Is there a simple way to do this or do
 I need to chew through all the documentation?
 
 Thanks for any tips!
 
 Marco

Quite literally, you should be able to use it out of the box with
little or no configuration - of course, with the exception of running it
the first time and having it set itself up per user.

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Re: [newbie] WINE configuration

[Marco Verheul]

On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 13:16, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 23:31, Marco Verheul wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I'd like to set up WINE on my mdk9.1 machine, but I see the
  documentation is quite extensive. Is there a simple way to do this or do
  I need to chew through all the documentation?
  
  Thanks for any tips!
  
  Marco
 
 Quite literally, you should be able to use it out of the box with
 little or no configuration - of course, with the exception of running it
 the first time and having it set itself up per user.

I installed WINE from the 9.1 cd's, but I suppose i have to set up some
sort of 'fake' directory structure where I can install programs. I'm
happy as a clam with all the Linux tools, but I would like to toy around
with TopStyle and Dreamweaver. Also I wouldn't mind if i could get Kazaa
to run...

Can you recommend a tutorial to do a basic set up?

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Re: [newbie] WINE configuration

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 03:14, Marco Verheul wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 13:16, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 23:31, Marco Verheul wrote:
   Hi all,
   
   I'd like to set up WINE on my mdk9.1 machine, but I see the
   documentation is quite extensive. Is there a simple way to do this or do
   I need to chew through all the documentation?
   
   Thanks for any tips!
   
   Marco
  
  Quite literally, you should be able to use it out of the box with
  little or no configuration - of course, with the exception of running it
  the first time and having it set itself up per user.
 
 I installed WINE from the 9.1 cd's, but I suppose i have to set up some
 sort of 'fake' directory structure where I can install programs. I'm
 happy as a clam with all the Linux tools, but I would like to toy around
 with TopStyle and Dreamweaver. Also I wouldn't mind if i could get Kazaa
 to run...
 
 Can you recommend a tutorial to do a basic set up?
 
 Marco

Open a terminal - navigate to your Windows directory (probably
/mnt/windows/windows) and type:

wine /mnt/windows/windows/sol.exe

(make sure that the CASE is correct)

...if it asks any questions, answer them.

THAT'S your first lesson!

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Re: [newbie] WINE configuration

[crak600]

On Saturday 26 July 2003 01:14 pm, Marco Verheul wrote:
 Also I wouldn't mind if i could get Kazaa
 to run...


you're not iffy about running kazaa with all the RIAA stuff going on?  

 Can you recommend a tutorial to do a basic set up?


yes, that'd be nice ammo to have in my arsenel as well  :)

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Re: [newbie] WINE configuration

[Inhabitant of Zion]

 Also I wouldn't mind if i could get Kazaa
 to run...
 

I would get the latest version of Kazaa lite if you do go down that line as
the New Version 2.4 K++ now includes IP blocking. The blocked IPs can be
manually entered or obtained, which includes all known addresses used by
the RIAA for scanning for copyright offenders.

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Re: [newbie] WINE configuration

[Lanman]

Be careful with Kazaa. I've seen reports that the RIAA won't be scanning for IP's from 
their own networks.

Watch your back.

Lanman

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 to run...


I would get the latest version of Kazaa lite if you do go down that line as
the New Version 2.4 K++ now includes IP blocking. The blocked IPs can be
manually entered or obtained, which includes all known addresses used by
the RIAA for scanning for copyright offenders.

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Re: [newbie] WINE configuration

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 Be careful with Kazaa. I've seen reports that the RIAA won't be scanning
 for IP's from their own networks.
 
 Watch your back.
 

Yes I don't do any p2p at the moment. Have stopped getting bittorrents and
everything. Too many of my friends have received warnings.

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Re: [newbie] WINE configuration

[Marco Verheul]

On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 16:30, Lanman wrote:
 Be careful with Kazaa. I've seen reports that the RIAA won't be scanning for IP's 
 from their own networks.
 
 Watch your back.
 
 Lanman
 
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 On 7/26/2003 at 5:04 PM Inhabitant of Zion wrote:
 
 
  Also I wouldn't mind if i could get Kazaa
  to run...
 
 
 I would get the latest version of Kazaa lite if you do go down that line as
 the New Version 2.4 K++ now includes IP blocking. The blocked IPs can be
 manually entered or obtained, which includes all known addresses used by
 the RIAA for scanning for copyright offenders.
 

OK, I might give Kazaa a rest considering all the fuzz that's going on.
Thanks for pointing it out to me.

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RE: [newbie] WINE configuration

[Frankie]

Yup, thats the whole reason RIAA are doing it, because it
scares off people.

Give it time, they will work out a way of sharing with more
animity..

rgds

Franki

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 Be careful with Kazaa. I've seen reports that the RIAA
won't be scanning
 for IP's from their own networks.

 Watch your back.


Yes I don't do any p2p at the moment. Have stopped getting
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everything. Too many of my friends have received warnings.

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Re: [newbie] Wine and Win licensing

[Anne Wilson]

On Friday 21 Feb 2003 8:41 am, Vahur Lokk wrote:
 Hi, IANAL-s :-)

 There is an old Win95 comp in my network. Legal setup. Now I want to run a
 Windows program (certain bookkeeping soft) in a Linux box in the same
 network using Wine. Is it legal to point Wine Windows folder to this Win95
 box using Samba? Or is it compulsory to use only Wine versions of DLLs.

 It works well technically, I have tested it. But I want to know, whether my
 current setup is legally valid.

 Wahur

You need to re-read the EULA for this.  You only have it installed on one box, 
so it may be, but certainly on later apps M$ say that you may not use them 
networked, so you may be caught out on that one.

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Re: [newbie] Wine and Win licensing

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On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 19:41, Vahur Lokk wrote:
 Hi, IANAL-s :-)
 
 There is an old Win95 comp in my network. Legal setup. Now I want to run a 
 Windows program (certain bookkeeping soft) in a Linux box in the same network 
 using Wine. Is it legal to point Wine Windows folder to this Win95 box using 
 Samba? Or is it compulsory to use only Wine versions of DLLs.
 
 It works well technically, I have tested it. But I want to know, whether my 
 current setup is legally valid.
 
 Wahur
 

If you have the license, it's valid.

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Re: [newbie] wine

[Derek Jennings]

On Monday 10 Feb 2003 1:06 pm, Philip wrote:
 I have incountered a problem trying to run wine with my Mandrake 9.0
 distro.

 When I try to run a .exe file by sat typing...wine startup.exe  it
 attempts to load then I am left with a black screen.  That's it.  I don't
 seem to get any error messages.

 Has anyone any idea what might be causing this??

 Thanks


Which Wine are you using? And what application are you trying to run?

Unless you are fairly savvy with Linux you are likely to get frustrated with 
'Standard Wine' from Winehq.  It needs to be configured ,and the 
configuration for one Windows application does not always suit another.

You are more likely to have success with the Wine version distributed by 
Codeweavers (http://www.codeweavers.com/technology/wine/ )  It comes with 
quite a nice GUI to configure it.

If you simply want your Windows applications to Just work the best way to do 
it is to put your hand in your pocket and pay for either a copy of 
Codeweavers Office which is a Wine release verified to run many Windows 
office applications like Word and Quicken, or else subscribe to 
www.transgaming.com  for an edition of Wine which will play some Windows 
games.
In both cases you should check that the Windows apps you want to use are 
actually supported.

Alternatively you could find a Linux application with equivalent functionality 
;-)

HTH

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Re: [newbie] wine

[Damian Gatabria]

On Monday 10 February 2003 13:06, Philip wrote:
 I have incountered a problem trying to run wine with my Mandrake 9.0
 distro.

 When I try to run a .exe file by sat typing...wine startup.exe  it
 attempts to load then I am left with a black screen.  That's it.  I don't
 seem to get any error messages.

 Has anyone any idea what might be causing this??

Yup. but only with programs that i knew wouldn't work correctly
(i.e. QuickTime player) Please tell us what is it that you are trying
to run, and which version on wine you are using.

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Re: [newbie] wine

[Douglas B.]

Not sure about your problem, but it might be that you're not providing
the full path of the exe. file. For example, in order to run MS Access I
use: 

wine /mnt/windows/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office/msaccess.exe
 (Note the quotes!).

The things I've used (Word, Access and Excel) also seem to behave better
if Run in Terminal.(You get a normal sized window, nonetheless)

Hope this is some help.

Doug 

On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 13:06, Philip wrote:
 I have incountered a problem trying to run wine with my Mandrake 9.0 distro.
 
 When I try to run a .exe file by sat typing...wine startup.exe  it 
 attempts to load then I am left with a black screen.  That's it.  I don't 
 seem to get any error messages.
 
 Has anyone any idea what might be causing this??
 
 Thanks
 
 
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Re: [newbie] wine

[Michael Adams]

On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 02:06, Philip wrote:
 I have incountered a problem trying to run wine with my Mandrake 9.0
 distro.

 When I try to run a .exe file by sat typing...wine startup.exe  it
 attempts to load then I am left with a black screen.  That's it.  I don't
 seem to get any error messages.

 Has anyone any idea what might be causing this??

 Thanks

Aahaa Isn't XP's blue screen of death (BSOD) black. This is perfickerly 
normal.

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Re: [newbie] wine worries

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 10:41, Andrew Scotchmer wrote:
 Hi again,
 
 Got a prob in wine which I have just installed from the tarball.
 
 wine: error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so: cannot open
 shared object file: No such file or directory.
 
 Checked in /etc/ld.so.conf but found /usr/local/lib already there.  Even
 so I still ran ldconfig -v just to be sure and now I get this message
 when trying to work with wine:
 
 wineserver: chdir /home/andrew/.wine: No such file or directory
 
 Anyone knows whats going on?
 
 Thanks 
 
 Andrew
 
 PS: Anyone know where the C header files are located as I am trying to
 give VMware a test run, cheers.
 

If you're going to do the VMWare bit, you're going to have to install
the kernel source files/header files along with the ncurses stuff...all
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Re: [newbie] WINE or something similar??

[Aaron Mehl]

Well
my experience has been that the only open source option is wine, however
wine is not so stable and requires a lot of fiddling to get it to work,
and it is not so fast.

VM ware is not for everyone, if you are testing on many OSes it probably
is the best choice.

I don't know all thats out there but for explorer and similar apps
Crossover office works fine.

From what I have read on this list Win4Lin is much faster and runs more
apps.

If you must have it open then have fun with wine
Aaron
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 16:49, Chuck Burns wrote:
 Here's the deal.. I have a pure Mandrake 9.0 system on this box.. No windows 
 partition at all.. now.. lets say I wanted to make a disk image inside my 
 current linux setup, and run win apps.. and I want it to be opensource.. NOT 
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Re: [newbie] WINE.

[Damian Gatabria]

On Thursday 23 January 2003 17:16, Seedkum Aladeem wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a dual boot system and I am getting tired rebooting from one OS to
 the other. How good and how reliable is wine in a system that already has
 the DLLs of W2K?

 Thanx,

 Seedkum

which apps would you be trying to run?

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Re: [newbie] WINE.

[Seedkum Aladeem]

On Thursday 23 January 2003 06:26 am, Damian Gatabria wrote:
 On Thursday 23 January 2003 17:16, Seedkum Aladeem wrote:
  Hi,
  I have a dual boot system and I am getting tired rebooting from one OS to
  the other. How good and how reliable is wine in a system that already has
  the DLLs of W2K?
 
  Thanx,
 
  Seedkum

 which apps would you be trying to run?

 Damian

I was happy with Open Office for a while but, because I started to run into 
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Re: [newbie] WINE.

[Damian Gatabria]

 I was happy with Open Office for a while but, because I started to run into
 incompatibility issues, I dual booted for the Redmond Office Suite.

Well, there's a rumour that the latest wine release can do MS Office pretty
well. 

However i have not tried it (i don't have windows installed, so...) you could
give it a shot and see for yourself. Latet wine CVS can be found nicely
packaged here:

http://wine.dataparty.no/rpm/unstripped/

Good luck. the first run will take very long as wine will 
build some kind of fonts database. It will get nicer afterwards.


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Re: [newbie] WINE.

[Seedkum Aladeem]

On Thursday 23 January 2003 07:02 am, Damian Gatabria wrote:
  I was happy with Open Office for a while but, because I started to run
  into incompatibility issues, I dual booted for the Redmond Office Suite.

 Well, there's a rumour that the latest wine release can do MS Office pretty
 well.

 However i have not tried it (i don't have windows installed, so...) you
 could give it a shot and see for yourself. Latet wine CVS can be found
 nicely packaged here:

 http://wine.dataparty.no/rpm/unstripped/

 Good luck. the first run will take very long as wine will
 build some kind of fonts database. It will get nicer afterwards.


 Damian

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Re: [newbie] WINE.

[Damian Gatabria]

 Do you know if this latest WINE will be in LM9.1?

Probably. There was some discussion about it on the cooker list not
too long ago. why?

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Re: [newbie] WINE.

[Seedkum Aladeem]

On Thursday 23 January 2003 08:40 am, Damian Gatabria wrote:
  Do you know if this latest WINE will be in LM9.1?

 Probably. There was some discussion about it on the cooker list not
 too long ago. why?

 Damian

If this new version of WINE is going to be in LM9.1 then I may persevere a bit 
until LM9.1 is release. How long will it be before LM9.1 is released?

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Re: [newbie] Wine and Steel Panthers

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 19:12, Vahur Lokk wrote:
 OK, for the first time I have found a good use for wine. Being a military 
 strategies fan I installed Steel Panthers World at War and succeeded running 
 it with wine (from Mandrake 9.0 CDs). Which makes me really happy.
 
 I still have few problems. 
 1) SPWAW is supposed to run fullscreen. And so it starts. But touching right 
 or lower edge of the screen with mouse will move the game window and my 
 desktop (with abnormally low res) appears below that. Going to left or upper 
 edge moves the game window back. Its quite annoying as the same mouse 
 movement is used to view different parts of the battlefield. 
 So how to make the game window really fullscreen or at least standing on one 
 place. Wine runs with 800x600 res, my desktop is a lot better but I can't 
 remember exact figures. Changing wine.conf did not do the trick.
 
 2) There is no sound. This is much less of a problem but still - should wine 
 know about my soundcard and be able to make use of it?
 
 Wahur
 

Have you dug into your WINE documentation for the sound configurations?
I had to muck around with the /etc/wine.reg, /etc/wine.systemreg and
/etc/wine.userreg aside from numerous other little bits and bobs before
being able to play HL fullscreen - AND getting sound (I mistakenly set
the audio device to /dev/audio when it's actually /dev/dsp)

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Re: [newbie] WINE Questions

[Russ]

Tribes2 is about the only online game I play anymore (not any good at it
but we won't go there).

Do they make you buy another copy of it or can you DL it from somewhere
and use your existing account?

Anyway, I am pouring over all the how to's and what not's on the WINEhq
page and Codeweavers. I even downloaded the codeweavers rpm. Should I
use that one or the one on my Mandrake9 disk? I have never installed
anything in Linux. I have never gotten this far before. I have come
close. I am hoping this will be my final jump but time will tell.

Thanks
Russ

On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 10:18, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Saturday 04 January 2003 12:53 pm, Russ wrote:
  I have a couple of programs that I would like to bring with me if I can.
  They are not games but I do have several of those too but they are not a
  necessity. I wonder if WineX would run Tribes2?
 
 Hmm, never tried Tribes 2 because there is a native Linux port of that game 
 that works great. My son and I play it all the time. It does require an 
 Nvidia card though (I think).




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Re: [newbie] WINE Questions

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Sunday 05 January 2003 04:03 am, Russ wrote:
 Tribes2 is about the only online game I play anymore (not any good at it
 but we won't go there).

Who cares? Its great fun! :-)

 Do they make you buy another copy of it or can you DL it from somewhere
 and use your existing account?

I'm not sure about that - I've only ever had the Linux version.

 Anyway, I am pouring over all the how to's and what not's on the WINEhq
 page and Codeweavers. I even downloaded the codeweavers rpm. Should I
 use that one or the one on my Mandrake9 disk? I have never installed
 anything in Linux. I have never gotten this far before. I have come
 close. I am hoping this will be my final jump but time will tell.

 Thanks
 Russ

I use the RPM from Transgaming. You have to subscribe to be able to d/l it 
though. You can d/l a version that you have to compile yourself. I've chose 
to subscribe because I don't mind supporting a group that is bringing some 
thing as useful as this to Linux. Also, as a subscriber, you get to vote on 
what games/features to work on/add...

The general consensus seems to be that regular Wine runs non-games better, and 
Transgamings' WineX runs games better. Generally.

A good thing to do is check out the games database on Transgamings' web site 
and see what is supported. There are quite a few games there - but not all 
games are supported.

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Re: [newbie] WINE, SAMBA, VMWARE and VNC

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 23:50, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Hi all,
 
 I, like a few others I am sure, need some clarification on the above
 packages.
 
 As I understand WINE is a WINdows Emulator but I am unsure what that
 enables me to do, ie just it just make a linux box seem like a Windows
 box for installing and running Windows applications. In theory therefore
 M$ Office could be installed and used on linux using WINE?

WINE allows me (or you) to run Windows native programs in the linux
environment. I can run MS Word by running:

wine /mnt/c-drive/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office/winword.exe

or Solitaire with:

wine /mnt/c-drive/windows/sol.exe


 SAMBA seems to be the networking package between Windows and Linux. It
 enables printers to be shared and used across a network but it does not
 allow you the same functionality as WINE.
 
SAMBA allows you to connect to Windows SMB/NMB networks. Workgroups,
domains and the likes. It's quite often faster than NFS mounts, and
actually quite easy to setup. You can mount shares on Windows machines,
as well as setup shares on your linux box that Windows hosts can mount.

 VMWARE seems to be similar to WINE except that it allows that it allows
 using a Windows machine across a network and not actually installing M$
 software on Linux. I am unsure though if the SAMBA package also needs to
 be installed for allowing the connections between the connected boxes.
 
VMWare allows you to actually create a virtual machine - an
environment that runs in a window - you create a virtual machine, with
virtual RAM, a virtual hard drive, and install your preferred OS into
that virtual machine - hence allowing you to run WindowsXP in a window -
and have virtual networking so that you can share files between the
host OS and the virtual machine.

 VNC allows the use of a remote machine and therefore is a slimmed down
 version of VMWARE?
 
VNC stands for virtual network computing - it allows you to literally
control the keyboard/mouse/screen on a remote computer. It is used
generally for support, or for accessing a desktop on another machine on
a network. Under linux, you can have a vnc server setup so that when
someone connects to your machine with vnc, they have their own linux
desktop - without interrupting the already running desktop sessions.


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Re: [newbie] WINE Questions

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Saturday 04 January 2003 01:30 am, Russ wrote:
 OK, I accidentally found rpmdrake (opened a console and typed rpmdrake,
 imagine that), Anyway I did a search for WINE and it was there but how
 do I tell if it is actually installed or just available to install? And
 if it is not installed should I get the newest version?

 Thanks Again
 Russ

Hi Russ. What exactly did you want Wine to do? If you are looking at running 
Windows games under Linux then I would recommend going to:

http://www.transgaming.com

and downloading WineX. WineX is like Wine on steroids for games.

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Re: [newbie] WINE Questions

[Pilagá]

El Sáb 04 Ene 2003 03:30, Russ escribió:
 OK, I accidentally found rpmdrake (opened a console and typed rpmdrake,
 imagine that), Anyway I did a search for WINE and it was there but how
 do I tell if it is actually installed or just available to install? And
 if it is not installed should I get the newest version?

 Thanks Again
 Russ

Russ: Open a console and enter: 'mcc' (no quotes). You will be prompted to 
enter root password. Then, click in Soft Admin and you will be able to 
install and uninstall programs. Under 'Install soft' do a search for Wine. If 
it is there, check the right box and click Install. That's all.

Suerte.
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Re: [newbie] WINE Questions

[Dennis Myers]

On Saturday 04 January 2003 12:30 am, Russ wrote:
 OK, I accidentally found rpmdrake (opened a console and typed rpmdrake,
 imagine that), Anyway I did a search for WINE and it was there but how
 do I tell if it is actually installed or just available to install? And
 if it is not installed should I get the newest version?

 Thanks Again
 Russ

 On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 20:39, Russ wrote:
  Franki,
 
  I am in the GUI mode. Where is rpmdrake? I have been all over that menu.
  I also did the console check but nothing happened. It just took me to
  another prompt.
 
  Please understand, I am still new at this game. I have tinkered with
  Mandrake before but I have never got this far before. Everything seems
  to work (except the printer but I haven't messed with that yet)
 
  Thanks
  Russ
 
  On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 23:02, Franki wrote:
   rpm -qa |grep wine
  
   in a console will tell you if its installed..
  
   but its easier to just use rpmdrake if you are in the GUI..
  
   or you can open a console terminal.. and enter:  urpmi wine
  
  
   rgds
  
   Franki
If a package shows up in rpmdrake then it is most likely not installed. If you 
get a message like package already installed . then you would need 
to update the database by typing  rpm --rebuilddb in a console as su. HTH
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Re: [newbie] WINE Questions

[Russ]

I have a couple of programs that I would like to bring with me if I can.
They are not games but I do have several of those too but they are not a
necessity. I wonder if WineX would run Tribes2?

Anyway, thanks I'll check that out.
Russ

On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 12:15, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 
 Hi Russ. What exactly did you want Wine to do? If you are looking at running 
 Windows games under Linux then I would recommend going to:
 
 http://www.transgaming.com
 
 and downloading WineX. WineX is like Wine on steroids for games.
 
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Re: [newbie] WINE Questions

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Saturday 04 January 2003 12:53 pm, Russ wrote:
 I have a couple of programs that I would like to bring with me if I can.
 They are not games but I do have several of those too but they are not a
 necessity. I wonder if WineX would run Tribes2?

Hmm, never tried Tribes 2 because there is a native Linux port of that game 
that works great. My son and I play it all the time. It does require an 
Nvidia card though (I think).

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RE: [newbie] WINE Questions

[Russ]

OK, I accidentally found rpmdrake (opened a console and typed rpmdrake,
imagine that), Anyway I did a search for WINE and it was there but how
do I tell if it is actually installed or just available to install? And
if it is not installed should I get the newest version?

Thanks Again
Russ

On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 20:39, Russ wrote:
 Franki,
 
 I am in the GUI mode. Where is rpmdrake? I have been all over that menu.
 I also did the console check but nothing happened. It just took me to
 another prompt.
 
 Please understand, I am still new at this game. I have tinkered with
 Mandrake before but I have never got this far before. Everything seems
 to work (except the printer but I haven't messed with that yet)
 
 Thanks
 Russ
 
 
 On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 23:02, Franki wrote:
  rpm -qa |grep wine
  
  in a console will tell you if its installed..
  
  but its easier to just use rpmdrake if you are in the GUI..
  
  or you can open a console terminal.. and enter:  urpmi wine
  
  
  rgds
  
  Franki



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RE: [newbie] WINE Questions

[Franki]

rpm -qa |grep wine

in a console will tell you if its installed..

but its easier to just use rpmdrake if you are in the GUI..

or you can open a console terminal.. and enter:  urpmi wine


rgds

Franki

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Subject: [newbie] WINE Questions


HI All,

I have MD9 up and running. Is WINE installed by default? How can I tell
if it is installed on this machine?

Thanks
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Re: [newbie] Wine/filesystem question

[Derek Jennings]

On Monday 30 Dec 2002 11:53 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
 I am runing LM9 on a laptop.  I periodically swap the floppy drive, the
 cdrom and a 2nd hard disk in and out of a single media bay.  Supermount is
 installed and seems to work fine so that if any of the devices is
 installed, ls /mnt/file system returns the contents of that device/drive.

 I have noticed that if I try to ls the filesystem for an uninstalled device
 (e.g. ls /mnt/floppy when the floppy drive is not installed, or ls
 /mnt/cdrom when it is not installed) the system spends a lot of time
 thinking.  Usually I have to kill the terminal since nothing is returned. 
 The rest of the system seems to work fine during this time and I have never
 had to reboot.

 I think this is related to the finding that wine freezes if I try to use a
 File - Open dialog...I think it's trying to locate /mnt/floppy and
 /mnt/cdrom.

 Does anyone know why the system doesn't just return nothing after ls
 /mnt/file system, but rather thinks forever?  Is my suspicion about
 wine correct and are the problems related?  Could I create a dummy floppy
 and cdrom directory for wine to look at?  Is there another solution other
 than to turn off supermount.  How would I do this?

 TIA,
 Paul


I can confirm that if supermount is enabled for a device that is not present 
the system will hang for a considerable time when you enter the /mnt 
directory. I do not think it has anything to do with Wine.

I got around it in my laptop by just disabling supermount for my removable 
floppy drive. Easy to do in Mandrake Control CentreMountPoints Just select 
'Options' and uncheck supermount.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] wine

[Trevor Rhodes]

 When I received errors like that, it was because I was trying to run a
 program via WINE from a directory that wasn't mapped in WINE.  In other
 words, you're trying to run a program in directory A, but there is no Drive
 mapping in the WINE config file for directory A.

I'm having trouble getting one program to work.  It's called Homecook from 
Mountain Software.  It's the last thing keeping me with M$ on a second 
machine.  If someone can tell me how to get that working under Wine I'd be 
ecstatic.

Regards
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Re: [newbie] wine

[jbarron201]

That is the same reason I  ask I have a cad I need,this
weekend some of the guys in our local LUG want to try it
in Crossover Office. 
Joe Barron
  When I received errors like that, it was because I was trying to run a
  program via WINE from a directory that wasn't mapped in WINE.  In other
  words, you're trying to run a program in directory A, but there is no Drive
  mapping in the WINE config file for directory A.
 
 I'm having trouble getting one program to work.  It's called Homecook from 
 Mountain Software.  It's the last thing keeping me with M$ on a second 
 machine.  If someone can tell me how to get that working under Wine I'd be 
 ecstatic.
 
 Regards
   Trevor
 
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Re: [newbie] wine

[Flux]

Joe,

When I received errors like that, it was because I was trying to run a program via 
WINE from a directory that wasn't 
mapped in WINE.  In other words, you're trying to run a program in directory A, but 
there is no Drive mapping in the 
WINE config file for directory A.  

I could have sworn the docs say something about getting around that, but it never 
worked for me...

-Lawrence 

 11/2/2002 7:56:26 PM, JOE BARRON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It looks like everything installed but the doc I,m reading isn,t the
same as the wine help.I,m getting a could not find config [Drive x]
entry for current working dir
y/home/joe:starting in windows dir

Thanks Joe Barron









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Re: [newbie] wine

[jbarron201]

Thank,s I,ll ask at my LUG,s meeting this weekend.
JOE BARRON
 Joe,
 
 When I received errors like that, it was because I was trying to run a program 
 via WINE from a directory that wasn't 
 mapped in WINE.  In other words, you're trying to run a program in directory A, 
 but there is no Drive mapping in the 
 WINE config file for directory A.  
 
 I could have sworn the docs say something about getting around that, but it 
 never worked for me...
 
 -Lawrence 
 
  11/2/2002 7:56:26 PM, JOE BARRON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 It looks like everything installed but the doc I,m reading isn,t the
 same as the wine help.I,m getting a could not find config [Drive x]
 entry for current working dir
 y/home/joe:starting in windows dir
 
 Thanks Joe Barron
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [newbie] wine

[Eric Richards]

I tried to install wine with
rpm -ivh wine-20021007.i386.rpm
error: cannot open package index using db3 - operation not permitted (1)
error: cannot open package database in /var/lib/rpm

then logged on as root user and got message similar


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It looks like everything installed but the doc I,m reading isn,t the
same as the wine help.I,m getting a could not find config [Drive x]
entry for current working dir
y/home/joe:starting in windows dir

Thanks Joe Barron




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Re: [newbie] wine

[Damian G]

On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:23:20 -0300
Oder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just installed Mandrake 9.0 and tried to use wine but the wine launcher
 was
 unable to find the xmessage program. It recommend  'that you use your
 distribution's software methods to locate xmessage. Can someone point me any
 idea about this problem? Thanks in advance, Oder.
 


ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/X11R6-contrib-4.2.1-3mdk.i586.rpm


try that one. if it doesn't work, check out the contribs for 9.0

(had the same problem a couple of days ago.)
have fun.


Damian
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Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Wine

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:37:00 -0400, Felix Underhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, but you can get the cvs version of WineX, which is free. Also, I think 
 D.Olsen posted a link to his website which has an article on how to get the 
 cvs version working.
 
 This is true. I'm running the CVS version of WineX at this moment with 
 no problems. This should be the website:  
 http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/tutorials/winex.php . I couldn't have done it 
 without his help (also has a great nvidia drivers installation section).

WineX is released under the APL (Aladdin Public License), which makes it free
(and open source) for non-commercial use.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

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Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Wine

[Ronald J. Hall]

On Thursday 08 August 2002 02:54 pm, you wrote:
 Greetings Ronald,

 You are right, Winex is better than Wine.
 But Wine is Free.

 Best Regards.

 Lúcio Costa.

Yes, but you can get the cvs version of WineX, which is free. Also, I think 
D.Olsen posted a link to his website which has an article on how to get the 
cvs version working.

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Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] Wine

[Felix Underhill]

Yes, but you can get the cvs version of WineX, which is free. Also, I think 
D.Olsen posted a link to his website which has an article on how to get the 
cvs version working.




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This is true. I'm running the CVS version of WineX at this moment with 
no problems. This should be the website:  
http://mdkxp.by-a.com/htm/tutorials/winex.php . I couldn't have done it 
without his help (also has a great nvidia drivers installation section).

D





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