Re: [newbie] GRUB using
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:55:54 +0200 Johan Sch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I am a grub user. Now I usually install grub in the HD mbr if over-written by another instal like this.. # grub grubgrub root (hd0,0) grubsetup (hd0) This time there was a error. So I read the GRUB instructions (hardcopy) which is quite extensive. Found another command.. grubfind /boot/grub/stage1 Now this gives 4 different devices with stage1 .. see below please. This is because I have various installs using grub. Again I studied the instructions .. but .. for me it is not clear which is which.. should the wrong setup be given the writing will be in the wrong place .. probably creating more chaos. Now what worries me is what would the correct command for setup be to use hd0,0 mbr and hd0,9 stage1. Please could I get some pointers here.. for the above short way .. long way see bottom..note. ** #grub GRUB version 0.93 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename. ] grub root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is fat, partition type 0xc grub find /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,5) (hd0,9).this is the one I want to use. (hd1,4) (hd1,8) grubsetup (hd0) ** Thanks Note..I already fixed this the long way..by using disc 1 and selecting the install on hde10. This causes the menu.lst to over-written (which is not really a problem because I have it on boot-floppy). Also found that all my MCC additional entries for urpmi was wiped out. -- Johan Sch kernel 2.6.3-13mdk May this be a good day for learning Registered Linux User #330034 I have joined the grub list .. maybe they can help me. -- Johan Sch kernel 2.6.3-13mdk May this be a good day for learning Registered Linux User #330034 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Grub entry
On Tuesday 30 December 2003 19:52, Johan wrote: Ok, here is mine as an attachment Johan * On Tuesday 30 December 2003 15:52, trufflesdad wrote: Could someone using grub please post me the booting stanza.. I have been trying to boot Mandrake from the Fedora menu.lst but I must have an error as calling the mandrake partition goes straight into Fedora... Thanks for the mail Johan...Do you know why it has 6 splash =silent entries ?? -- Regards Ted Wager Using Fedora Linux Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub entry
Ok, here is mine as an attachment Johan * On Tuesday 30 December 2003 15:52, trufflesdad wrote: Could someone using grub please post me the booting stanza.. I have been trying to boot Mandrake from the Fedora menu.lst but I must have an error as calling the mandrake partition goes straight into Fedora... -- Johan May this be a good day for learning Registered Linux User #330034 - still learning timeout 10 color black/cyan yellow/cyan i18n (hd0,8)/boot/grub/messages keytable (hd0,8)/boot/us.klt altconfigfile (hd0,8)/boot/grub/menu.once default 0 title Windows XP Home hdg1 root (hd1,0) map (0x81) (0x80) map (0x80) (0x81) makeactive chainloader +1 title Mandrake 2422-21 hde9-10 kernel (hd0,8)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-21mdk root=/dev/hde9 devfs=mount splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent hdd=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hde11 splash=silent vga=788 initrd (hd0,8)/boot/initrd-2.4.22-21mdk.img title Mandrake 2422-10 kernel (hd0,8)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-10mdk root=/dev/hde9 devfs=mount splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent hdd=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hde11 splash=silent initrd (hd0,8)/boot/initrd-2.4.22-10mdk.img title Windows 98 hde1 root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 title Mandrake linux-nonfb hde9-10 kernel (hd0,8)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hde9 devfs=mount splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent splash=silent hdd=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hde11 initrd (hd0,8)/boot/initrd.img title floppy root (fd0) chainloader +1 # title Suse 9.0 hde5/6-kernel-121-K_delft kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-121-default root=/dev/hde5 vga=0x314 splash=silent desktop hdd=ide-scsi hddlun=0 showopts initrd (hd0,4)/boot/initrd-2.4.21-121-default #** title Redhat 9.0 hde7/8 root (hd0,6) kernel (hd0,6)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 root=/dev/hde7 initrd (hd0,6)/boot/initrd-2.4.20-8.img # title Memory Test kernel (hd0,4)/boot/memtest.bin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub or Lilo
On Friday 26 December 2003 04:09, Russ wrote: Thats my problem. I tried to edit it but didn't have any luck. I guess I am asking for a how to on how to edit it. Did you remember to /sbin/lilo after you edited? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub or Lilo
Hi All, I posted before but this is sort of an update. Still need help. I am trying to get Grub to boot all the OS's I have installed. It appears to be a tricky thing to accomplish. Here is what I did: New Dell 4600 (3ghz, 512ram, 80gig HD) with XP Home installed. I added a 160 gig HD and made it master and the 80 a slave (XP has the whole 80gig drive). On the 160 I put Win98se on the first 40, then swap, then SuSE and finally Mandrake. Both SuSE and Mandrake are in their own single partition (I did not separate / and /Home). Steps; I installed Win98se, then I installed SuSE. The Win98 drive did not show up arigionally in Grub but I edited it and it worked fine then. My XP drive did show up but Grub will not boot it because it does not recognise the file system (is there a workaround for this?). I then installed Mandrake 9.2 and told it to skip the boot loader. Went back into SuSE and edited Grub again but no dice. Here is what I have: === # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Fri Dec 26 06:12:33 2003 gfxmenu (hd0,2)/boot/message timeout 8 default 0 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: SuSE### title SuSE kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 vga=0x317 splash=silent desktop hdd=ide-scsi hddlun=0 showopts initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initrd ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Mandrake### title Mandrake kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 vga=0x317 splash=silent desktop hdd=ide-scsi hddlun=0 showopts initrd (hd0,4)/boot/initrd ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: XP_Home### title XP_Home root (hd1,0) chainloader +1 makeactive ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Win98se### title Win98se root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 makeactive ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Floppy### title Floppy root (fd0) chainloader +1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Failsafe### title Failsafe kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 vga=normal showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 3 initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initrd === Anyone know what I am doing wrong? Here are the partitions: hda1 FAT32 Win98se hda2 swap hda3 SuSE hda4 extended hda5 Mandrake hdb1 XP Home NTFS Thanks Russ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub or Lilo
On Friday 26 December 2003 09:50 am, Russ wrote: Hi All, I posted before but this is sort of an update. Still need help. I am trying to get Grub to boot all the OS's I have installed. It appears to be a tricky thing to accomplish. Here is what I did: New Dell 4600 (3ghz, 512ram, 80gig HD) with XP Home installed. I added a 160 gig HD and made it master and the 80 a slave (XP has the whole 80gig drive). On the 160 I put Win98se on the first 40, then swap, then SuSE and finally Mandrake. Both SuSE and Mandrake are in their own single partition (I did not separate / and /Home). Steps; I installed Win98se, then I installed SuSE. The Win98 drive did not show up arigionally in Grub but I edited it and it worked fine then. My XP drive did show up but Grub will not boot it because it does not recognise the file system (is there a workaround for this?). I then installed Mandrake 9.2 and told it to skip the boot loader. Went back into SuSE and edited Grub again but no dice. Here is what I have: === # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Fri Dec 26 06:12:33 2003 gfxmenu (hd0,2)/boot/message timeout 8 default 0 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: SuSE### title SuSE kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 vga=0x317 splash=silent desktop hdd=ide-scsi hddlun=0 showopts initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initrd ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Mandrake### title Mandrake kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 vga=0x317 splash=silent desktop hdd=ide-scsi hddlun=0 showopts initrd (hd0,4)/boot/initrd ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: XP_Home### title XP_Home root (hd1,0) chainloader +1 makeactive ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Win98se### title Win98se root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 makeactive ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Floppy### title Floppy root (fd0) chainloader +1 ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: Failsafe### title Failsafe kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 vga=normal showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 3 initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initrd === Anyone know what I am doing wrong? Here are the partitions: hda1 FAT32 Win98se hda2 swap hda3 SuSE hda4 extended hda5 Mandrake hdb1 XP Home NTFS Thanks Russ Change the Mandrake line to vga=normal and see if it works. I'm not sure what the problem is. Jim -- 10:01:01 up 15 days, 1:18, 1 user, load average: 0.69, 0.43, 0.27 Running Mandrake 9.2 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... Registered Linux User: 181038 --http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub or Lilo
Did that, didn't work. :-( Went through the install with Mandrake again so I could use it's boot loader. Now Mandrake boots but no SuSE. Although I do not understand all of what came up on the screen when I tried to boot SuSE but, there were a couple of lines that I noticed. It said something to the effect of no ext3 found. SuSE is on a Reiser file system and Mandrake is on an ext3. These were the defaults for each distro. I decided to let them do their thing. Is this a problem? Thanks Russ - Original Message - Change the Mandrake line to vga=normal and see if it works. I'm not sure what the problem is. Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
Frank wrote: I'm starting to learn more about grub. And on a Mandrake system that means trouble for someone. I've used both grub and lilo, and cannot find much to choose between them, but mandrake tends to prefer lilo so I use that now days. You see, I now have my primary disk exclusively Mandrake and though the first partition is /boot I have yet to see Lilo ala GUI perform reliably yet. The first screen always comes up OK Called the splash scrre, and offers you choice of OS to boot but when lilo moves on to the second screen, Do you mean the login screen, where you choose which person to log in as ? well, I get to boot successfully usually after the third or fourth try. Form login, or the whole thing ? How much memory ? Sounds to me like maybe xwindows is failing maybe ? Are you booting ked ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
I have used lilo for years and since I changed and learned grub - well I think it is marvelous. Well of course every individual has his/her own taste and I like that. Johan *** - Original Message - From: Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] grub lilo I'm starting to learn more about grub. And on a Mandrake system that means trouble for someone. You see, I now have my primary disk exclusively Mandrake and though the first partition is /boot I have yet to see Lilo ala GUI perform reliably yet. The first screen always comes up OK but when lilo moves on to the second screen, well, I get to boot successfully usually after the third or fourth try. I have had this problem since Mandrake9.0 and it gets annoying when my system will not boot up first time each day. I guess that makes this a con for lilo then? -- Regards Frank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 James Conner wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2003 08:33 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? thx Femme I've used both. There are pros and cons on both. Grub: Pros: - You can edit the config file and not worry about having to write it to the mbr like lilo, it'll take effect on the next boot. - You can edit stanzas on the fly on the Grub menu on boot. Cons: - If you mess up the config file, you might end up with a unbootable system. This can be a nightmare for people doing remote support. Lilo: Pros: After you edit the lilo config file you can do a lilo -v and know if you messed anything up or not. Well, most of the time. Syntax is easier to understand and use for newbies. Cons: Versions older than 2 years will have the dreaded 1024 cylinder barrier for /boot. I'm sure that there are more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I usually setup new users with lilo, it's easier to understand and modify if necessary. Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:10:17 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank wrote: I'm starting to learn more about grub. And on a Mandrake system that means trouble for someone. I've used both grub and lilo, and cannot find much to choose between them, but mandrake tends to prefer lilo so I use that now days. Strangely, grub was their choice for non-expert install on my first Mandrake distro 7.1. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 23:26:42 + James Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used both. There are pros and cons on both. SNIPPAGE I'm sure that there are more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I usually setup new users with lilo, it's easier to understand and modify if necessary. Jim -- Thx Jim thats what I wanted to know! Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
For the differences: Lilo uses the BIOS to access the partition where the image is residing. It is file-system independent. This is accomplished at boot sector installation time, by translating the location of the kernel image into a list of disk sectors, which then LILO loads using the BIOS. As a consequence, when you change anything about the kernel (location, configuration...) you need to re-run lilo so that it can update the map. Grub incorporates a reduced version of a file system, so it uses the file system meta-information to access the kernel image at boot time. That's why you don't need to re-run grub after modifying the kernel: it gets the information it needs directly from the FS. Check Almesberger's paper Booting linux: the history and the future for a very good overview, for example at: ftp://icaftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/booting/bootinglinux-0.ps.gz raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? thx Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
Sorry, I should have written Grub incorporates a reduced version of a file system _driver_ raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the differences: Lilo uses the BIOS to access the partition where the image is residing. It is file-system independent. This is accomplished at boot sector installation time, by translating the location of the kernel image into a list of disk sectors, which then LILO loads using the BIOS. As a consequence, when you change anything about the kernel (location, configuration...) you need to re-run lilo so that it can update the map. Grub incorporates a reduced version of a file system, so it uses the file system meta-information to access the kernel image at boot time. That's why you don't need to re-run grub after modifying the kernel: it gets the information it needs directly from the FS. Check Almesberger's paper Booting linux: the history and the future for a very good overview, for example at: ftp://icaftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/booting/bootinglinux-0.ps.gz raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? thx Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:21:22 +0100 Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the differences: Lilo uses the BIOS to access the partition where the image is residing. It is file-system independent. This is accomplished at boot sector installation time, by translating the location of the kernel image into a list of disk sectors, which then LILO loads using the BIOS. As a consequence, when you change anything about the kernel (location, configuration...) you need to re-run lilo so that it can update the map. Grub incorporates a reduced version of a file system, so it uses the file system meta-information to access the kernel image at boot time. That's why you don't need to re-run grub after modifying the kernel: it gets the information it needs directly from the FS. Check Almesberger's paper Booting linux: the history and the future for a very good overview, for example at: ftp://icaftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/booting/bootinglinux-0.ps.gz raffaele thx your explanation was sufficient for me :) Concise enough I understood perfectly. FEmme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
I'm starting to learn more about grub. And on a Mandrake system that means trouble for someone. You see, I now have my primary disk exclusively Mandrake and though the first partition is /boot I have yet to see Lilo ala GUI perform reliably yet. The first screen always comes up OK but when lilo moves on to the second screen, well, I get to boot successfully usually after the third or fourth try. I have had this problem since Mandrake9.0 and it gets annoying when my system will not boot up first time each day. I guess that makes this a con for lilo then? -- Regards Frank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213 James Conner wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2003 08:33 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? thx Femme I've used both. There are pros and cons on both. Grub: Pros: - You can edit the config file and not worry about having to write it to the mbr like lilo, it'll take effect on the next boot. - You can edit stanzas on the fly on the Grub menu on boot. Cons: - If you mess up the config file, you might end up with a unbootable system. This can be a nightmare for people doing remote support. Lilo: Pros: After you edit the lilo config file you can do a lilo -v and know if you messed anything up or not. Well, most of the time. Syntax is easier to understand and use for newbies. Cons: Versions older than 2 years will have the dreaded 1024 cylinder barrier for /boot. I'm sure that there are more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I usually setup new users with lilo, it's easier to understand and modify if necessary. Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Sunday 26 October 2003 03:33 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I use GrUB. I wouldn't call it experimental. It works great. I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? For me the biggest is that if you make a config change, you don't have to run lilo. Just make your change and reboot. The other thing I like is that you can edit any boot stanza at runtime, meaning that if I made a mistake in my configuration, append statements, etc. I can edit it at boot. I don't use this, but I think it handles hiding partitions better than lilo does too. This is important for some alternative OS's like Darwin, which must be on the first partition of the first disk. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:08:16 -0500 Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIPPAGE For me the biggest is that if you make a config change, you don't have to run lilo. Just make your change and reboot. The other thing I like is that you can edit any boot stanza at runtime, meaning that if I made a mistake in my configuration, append statements, etc. I can edit it at boot. -- /g thx guess that helps some. heh Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] grub lilo
On Sunday 26 October 2003 08:33 pm, Heather/Femme wrote: I've heard grub is experimental .. but RH uses it almost exclusively and alot of ppl say its better than LILO. True? False? I'd search google for a site detailing the differences Pros/cons of each but I don't kow where to start... I know I know, I'm usually good at research but I'm stumped on this. Can somoene gimme a pointer pls? even a google URL? thx Femme I've used both. There are pros and cons on both. Grub: Pros: - You can edit the config file and not worry about having to write it to the mbr like lilo, it'll take effect on the next boot. - You can edit stanzas on the fly on the Grub menu on boot. Cons: - If you mess up the config file, you might end up with a unbootable system. This can be a nightmare for people doing remote support. Lilo: Pros: After you edit the lilo config file you can do a lilo -v and know if you messed anything up or not. Well, most of the time. Syntax is easier to understand and use for newbies. Cons: Versions older than 2 years will have the dreaded 1024 cylinder barrier for /boot. I'm sure that there are more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I usually setup new users with lilo, it's easier to understand and modify if necessary. Jim -- 11:01pm up 2 days, 9:17, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 Running Mandrake 9.0 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GRUB
[Original Message] From: Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the readme that comes with Grub, it explains how to change the default os - Yours is set to 0 right now. To make windoze the default, change the line from: default 0 - default 2 Ed This did exactly what I wanted. Thanks a bunch, Ed Diesel Dan http://DieselD Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] GRUB
dunno if this has been answered, but the first option will be the default, so copy the windows entry to be above the linux entries. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Jacobs Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2001 12:00 AM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] GRUB Can someone familiar with GRUB please tell me how to alter the MENU.LST file to make windows the default OS? I cannot use linux for internet access, so until then, I'd like to make windows the dedfault OS. Here is the file as I know it: timeout 30 color black/cyan yellow/cyan i18n (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/grub/messages keytable (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/us.klt altconfigfile (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/grub/menu.once default 0 title linux kernel (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17-21mdk root=707 mem=256M initrd (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/initrd-2.2.17-21mdk.img title failsafe kernel (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17-21mdk root=707 mem=256M failsafe initrd (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/initrd-2.2.17-21mdk.img title windows root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 title floppy root (fd0) chainloader +1 Thank you in advance, Diesel Dan http://DieselDan.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GRUB
Can't you just do it from the Mandrake Control Center? Dan Jacobs wrote: Can someone familiar with GRUB please tell me how to alter the MENU.LST file to make windows the default OS? I cannot use linux for internet access, so until then, I'd like to make windows the dedfault OS. Here is the file as I know it: timeout 30 color black/cyan yellow/cyan i18n (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/grub/messages keytable (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/us.klt altconfigfile (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/grub/menu.once default 0 title linux kernel (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17-21mdk root=707 mem=256M initrd (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/initrd-2.2.17-21mdk.img title failsafe kernel (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17-21mdk root=707 mem=256M failsafe initrd (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/initrd-2.2.17-21mdk.img title windows root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 title floppy root (fd0) chainloader +1 Thank you in advance, Diesel Dan http://DieselDan.net - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GRUB
In the readme that comes with Grub, it explains how to change the default os - Yours is set to 0 right now. To make windoze the default, change the line from: default 0 - default 2 Ed At 04:07 AM Saturday, 11/10/2001, you wrote -= Can someone familiar with GRUB please tell me how to alter the MENU.LST file to make windows the default OS? I cannot use linux for internet access, so until then, I'd like to make windows the dedfault OS. Here is the file as I know it: timeout 30 color black/cyan yellow/cyan i18n (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/grub/messages keytable (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/us.klt altconfigfile (hd0,4)/lnx4win/boot/grub/menu.once default 0 Ed Kasky Los Angeles, CA . . . . . . . . What we anticipate seldom occurs; what we least expect generally happens. --Benjamin Disraeli Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub problems
unless you want to seriously f-up your file system don't use exit to dos, rather use reboot to dos. exit to dos has been done to curropt file systems so bad as to require fdisk and reinstall. just a thought. On Monday 01 October 2001 10:18, you spoke unto me thusly: I'm not sure this is true, I have ME (God bless my soul) and I can, I think, exit to DOS. Or am I thinking of something else? -- you can have peace or freedom, but never count on both at once -heinlein shane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mystic-light.net/personal/ Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 http://dmoz.org cause humans do it better! Link different. Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Grub problems
I'm not sure this is true, I have ME (God bless my soul) and I can, I think, exit to DOS. Or am I thinking of something else? -Original Message- From: Hans N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 September 2001 21:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems Just a Windohz warning, people with Windohz ME can't exit to DOS. Restarting in DOS mode is not an option. Hans N. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of d What I am trying to say in all of this is I did NOT use a WinBlow$ boot disk, did it directly from DOS by just exiting to it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub problems
me has no support for dos. other than going start-run-and typing in command. if you need dos you need to get a copy of win98 :( or use the dos emulator in linux :) Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems I'm not sure this is true, I have ME (God bless my soul) and I can, I think, exit to DOS. Or am I thinking of something else? -Original Message- From: Hans N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 September 2001 21:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems Just a Windohz warning, people with Windohz ME can't exit to DOS. Restarting in DOS mode is not an option. Hans N. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of d What I am trying to say in all of this is I did NOT use a WinBlow$ boot disk, did it directly from DOS by just exiting to it. -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Grub problems
are you sure?? I was under the impression that ME had hidden dos and didn't allow you to use it, except as an emulation from the start button... 98SE will let you, but I know for a fact that 2000 and XP won't,, and I was under the impression that ME didn't let you either.. I know that 2000 and XP are based on the NT kernel and ME is based on the 95 kernel, but I was still under the impression that they had tried to make ME look more like 2000 then 95, (weather it is or not.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adrian Lynch Sent: Monday, 1 October 2001 10:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems I'm not sure this is true, I have ME (God bless my soul) and I can, I think, exit to DOS. Or am I thinking of something else? -Original Message- From: Hans N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 September 2001 21:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems Just a Windohz warning, people with Windohz ME can't exit to DOS. Restarting in DOS mode is not an option. Hans N. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of d What I am trying to say in all of this is I did NOT use a WinBlow$ boot disk, did it directly from DOS by just exiting to it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub problems
hi frank microsofts offical line is there is no dos support in me. ME does have support for dos, but not by default. you have to get a patch to enable it. unfortunately these patches are not made by microsoft. in my expierence i have never had success with them and always had to reinstall after i tried one. so i would not suggest trying it. installing 98se is much easier and safer and faster. personally i think they stuffed dos up and are too ashamed to admit it ;) Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems are you sure?? I was under the impression that ME had hidden dos and didn't allow you to use it, except as an emulation from the start button... 98SE will let you, but I know for a fact that 2000 and XP won't,, and I was under the impression that ME didn't let you either.. I know that 2000 and XP are based on the NT kernel and ME is based on the 95 kernel, but I was still under the impression that they had tried to make ME look more like 2000 then 95, (weather it is or not.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adrian Lynch Sent: Monday, 1 October 2001 10:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems I'm not sure this is true, I have ME (God bless my soul) and I can, I think, exit to DOS. Or am I thinking of something else? -Original Message- From: Hans N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 September 2001 21:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems Just a Windohz warning, people with Windohz ME can't exit to DOS. Restarting in DOS mode is not an option. Hans N. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of d What I am trying to say in all of this is I did NOT use a WinBlow$ boot disk, did it directly from DOS by just exiting to it. -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub problems
The most helpful single source of information that I know of about Windows, both ME and the others, is langalist.com. Search the newsletter archives there for mentions of ME and DOS. I remember that this issue has been discussed there; I just don't recall the details. Warren -- http://sites.netscape.net/srcopan/ Robert MacLean wrote: hi frank microsofts offical line is there is no dos support in me. ME does have support for dos, but not by default. you have to get a patch to enable it. unfortunately these patches are not made by microsoft. in my expierence i have never had success with them and always had to reinstall after i tried one. so i would not suggest trying it. installing 98se is much easier and safer and faster. personally i think they stuffed dos up and are too ashamed to admit it ;) Robert MacLean - Original Message - From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems are you sure?? I was under the impression that ME had hidden dos and didn't allow you to use it, except as an emulation from the start button... 98SE will let you, but I know for a fact that 2000 and XP won't,, and I was under the impression that ME didn't let you either.. I know that 2000 and XP are based on the NT kernel and ME is based on the 95 kernel, but I was still under the impression that they had tried to make ME look more like 2000 then 95, (weather it is or not.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adrian Lynch Sent: Monday, 1 October 2001 10:19 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems I'm not sure this is true, I have ME (God bless my soul) and I can, I think, exit to DOS. Or am I thinking of something else? -Original Message- From: Hans N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 September 2001 21:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Grub problems Just a Windohz warning, people with Windohz ME can't exit to DOS. Restarting in DOS mode is not an option. Hans N. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of d What I am trying to say in all of this is I did NOT use a WinBlow$ boot disk, did it directly from DOS by just exiting to it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Grub problems
Just a Windohz warning, people with Windohz ME can't exit to DOS. Restarting in DOS mode is not an option. Hans N. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of d What I am trying to say in all of this is I did NOT use a WinBlow$ boot disk, did it directly from DOS by just exiting to it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub problems
Boot with a win floppy and run fdisk /mbr (as so often we hand out winders info...) I installed a lnx4win Mandrake 8.0 on a pc, which would load a text bootloader fine. However, when I decided to uninstall, I deleted the lnx4win folder (in windows) and rebooted. Grub still starts and then, being a complete newbie, I don't know how to get past it. Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the machine boots straight into Windows? Thanks Adam Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Grub problems
yep, or if it's a win95 or win98 boot disk, it is on the A: drive. Quoting Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Adam, not two weeks ago I did exactly the same thing, and it was a weekend so I had no way of finding out how to fix it. you might want to wait for someone to confirm this answer, but you use a Windoze Boot disk get into the c drive ( dir c: and press enter) then fdisk /mbr this clears the Master Boot Record.biut like I said, wait for confirmation from someone else -Original Message- From: Adam Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 September 2001 12:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Grub problems I installed a lnx4win Mandrake 8.0 on a pc, which would load a text bootloader fine. However, when I decided to uninstall, I deleted the lnx4win folder (in windows) and rebooted. Grub still starts and then, being a complete newbie, I don't know how to get past it. Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the machine boots straight into Windows? Thanks Adam __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Grub problems
LURKER here, NOT a guru still trying to learn how to be a NEWBY. NOW for this prob, just corrected a prob I had with my system. My system was booting to LILO and I use the PowerQuest's BootMagic, I booted to LILO and then typed in windows, then went into the BootMagic Configuration and set thingys the way I wanted them and exited to DOS and ran 'fdisk /mbr' (with out the quotes). Returned to WinBlow$ and exited and did a reboot and WOW! it worked the way I wanted. What I am trying to say in all of this is I did NOT use a WinBlow$ boot disk, did it directly from DOS by just exiting to it. At 06:56 AM 9/14/01, you wrote: Adam, not two weeks ago I did exactly the same thing, and it was a weekend so I had no way of finding out how to fix it. you might want to wait for someone to confirm this answer, but you use a Windoze Boot disk get into the c drive ( dir c: and press enter) then fdisk /mbr this clears the Master Boot Record.biut like I said, wait for confirmation from someone else -Original Message- snippity snip I installed a lnx4win Mandrake 8.0 on a pc, which would load a text bootloader fine. However, when I decided to uninstall, I deleted the lnx4win folder (in windows) and rebooted. Grub still starts and then, being a complete newbie, I don't know how to get past it. Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the machine boots straight into Windows? Thanks Adam TIA, 'd' [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Antonio, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Grub problems
Adam, not two weeks ago I did exactly the same thing, and it was a weekend so I had no way of finding out how to fix it. you might want to wait for someone to confirm this answer, but you use a Windoze Boot disk get into the c drive ( dir c: and press enter) then fdisk /mbr this clears the Master Boot Record.biut like I said, wait for confirmation from someone else -Original Message- From: Adam Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 September 2001 12:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Grub problems I installed a lnx4win Mandrake 8.0 on a pc, which would load a text bootloader fine. However, when I decided to uninstall, I deleted the lnx4win folder (in windows) and rebooted. Grub still starts and then, being a complete newbie, I don't know how to get past it. Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the machine boots straight into Windows? Thanks Adam __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Grub problems
Is there any way of getting rid of Grub, so that the machine boots straight into Windows? Boot with a Windows floppy disk, the System boot disk that you can create from Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel is a good one to use. At the command prompt type: SYS C: You must have a file on your bootdisk called SYS.COM in order for this to work. Richie. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GRUB stage 1, freeze
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: howdy. got a bit of a problem, . i was using 7.2 and GRUB on this same box before -- only differences: 1. / was ext2 not reiser (but the reiser booted fine at first, could that be the problem?) It seems that I remember Civileme saying something about reiser not having all of the bugs worked out of it yet, or something to that effect. I was considering changing to reiser until I read his post about that. I don't remember his exact words, but it was enough to make me change my mind about reiser, until I hear of further developement. I'm not sure if this is relevant to your problem, but is maybe worth considering. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] GRUB stage 1, freeze
I have used Reiser on several systems now, all of them are running flawlessly, one as a web/mail server one as a DNS server (BIND) and a couple of firewalls, uptimes on all of them are over 1month, some are closer to three months, all have been tested with hard resets to see how reiserfs coped with it,, 1. we NEVER suffered any data corruption or loss from reiserfs 2. It recovered very cleanly in all cases of hard resets on a variety of diffent hardware (everything from 166mmx to 1.2gig Athlon...) I am not sure I would use Reiserfs on mdk8 becaues I have heard bad stories about it on this list... (also not use if NFS is involved.) but I can say that I have never had a problem at all with MDK 7.2 and reiserfs. I have not adopted Mandrake 8 as I didn't want to swap to iptables and stuff until I am sure they were sure they were stable...and I like to way for a second edition of a new version like 8 before I adopt it... so I am still on 7.2 and loving it... just wish we had more choice in the latest packages Thats my thoughts for the day.. :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Punch Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2001 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] GRUB stage 1, freeze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: howdy. got a bit of a problem, . i was using 7.2 and GRUB on this same box before -- only differences: 1. / was ext2 not reiser (but the reiser booted fine at first, could that be the problem?) It seems that I remember Civileme saying something about reiser not having all of the bugs worked out of it yet, or something to that effect. I was considering changing to reiser until I read his post about that. I don't remember his exact words, but it was enough to make me change my mind about reiser, until I hear of further developement. I'm not sure if this is relevant to your problem, but is maybe worth considering. ShalomOut Chal Elder PCUSA Registered Linux user # 217118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GRUB missing
On Saturday 30 June 2001 01:31, you wrote: Well, I know it's not really missing but some how lilo has taken over as my boot loader. After some initial grumbling (all my other distros used lilo) I kept using it and came to really like GRUB. But I'm at a loss as how to set it as my boot loader again. Do I just modify my /etc/lilo.conf and comment out the line 'boot=/dev/hda'? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks to all! Jim Have a look in Mandrake Control Centre - Boot Config, you can choose Grub or Lilo there. -- Poogle Registered Linux user 182657 (added to sig for the benefit of those irritated by it)
Re: [newbie] GRUB Question
How do I stop you guys from sending me emails ? I'm domain buyer and after buying the name all email on that domain start coming to me. Now these lists kind of stuff is annoying. and I don't know what domain(email) is it coming from ??? please remove me or I've to do hardwork and find what name is related to linux or grub blah blah... Thanks Lalit Wadhwa (Founder/President) http://www.dotsplash.com --- Alok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help a newbie with GRUB PLEASE! So heres the low-down. I have a dual boot system with Windows ME, Windows 2000, and Linux Mandrake. What happens is that when I turn on my computer grub pops up and then gives me the option to go to windows or linux. If I choose linux it takes me to Linux. If I choose Windows it takes me to the Windows boot loader which gives me the folowing options: Windows ME, Windows 2000, and Linux Mandrake. So the GRUB screen is completely useless and annoying. In other words - HOW IN THE HECK DO I STOP GRUB FROM LOADING?!??!?!? __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] grub and Windows
Mark Rather than trying to manually edit Grub use DrakConf/Tools for booting. Then choose the option Configure Lilo/Grub. In the boot options menu if Windows is not shown as hdb1 then you need to Remove that entry and then Add the correct entry. Accept the changes you have made and reboot your system. On reboot you should now be able to boot Windows. If the above for some reason did not work your best bet is to reinstall Grub and let it auto pick-up your Windows boot record. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Stewart Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] grub and Windows Well, here's what I did. I unplugged my old disk from the primary master, plugged the new disk into primary master, had my friend install Windows98 (he moved fast and I'm not exactly sure how he structured things but I think its all one big FAT32 partition), booted successfully, and obsessively played Black White for a day ;-). Once I recovered, I unplugged the new Windows-only disk, set its jumpers for the slave position and attached it to the primary slave IDE connector and reconnected my old disk to the primary master connector, then set about configuring my menu.lst file. Here's how I set it up based on info from the mini-HOWTO and an article from Linux Gazette: title Windows98 map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot I rebooted and when grub presented the list select Windows98. I immediately got the following message: Error: invalid or unsupported executable format. Press any key to continue. So I tried modifying various bits: -removed the second map command, thinking perhaps it was swapping the virtual map back to the way it started. No change. -changed rootnoverify to just root. No change. -removed the boot line. No change. -tried changing the partition specified as root--thinking perhaps my friend had actually installed on a second or third partition. rootnoverify (hd0,1) - Invalid device requested and rootnoverify (hd0,2) - No such partition One bit of additional, and possibly irrelevant, info: a few months earlier under Mdk7.1 I had been trying to get grub to recognize all my system's RAM and, for some reason, ran the lilo command. After that I no longer got the grub menu at startup (though I still booted up just fine) and I instead would see a bunch of black and white text graphics that described my hardware that I assumed was coming from lilo. Then I installed (not upgraded) mdk7.2. Grub came back again but I still got the black and white coming up first. So I'm wondering if I've still got lilo installed on the master boot record and it's chaining itself to grub somehow and that is what is preventing from booting from the Win98 partition. I use 2 copies of windows, one for general use and one for audio work. to do this i had to do as u suggest and format both drives when there were primary master, ( actually i THINK i even installed windows on the one i moved to 2nd master by booting the machine from ide 2, it was none the wiser to my trickery as the disk had been setup as primary master hehe) If u are reinstalling linux grub should see your windows in its new posistion ( it seen both mine with no help from me) if not then i am certain u can point it at it...just not sure how as i havent had to.
RE: [newbie] grub and Windows
Well, here's what I did. I unplugged my old disk from the primary master, plugged the new disk into primary master, had my friend install Windows98 (he moved fast and I'm not exactly sure how he structured things but I think its all one big FAT32 partition), booted successfully, and obsessively played Black White for a day ;-). Once I recovered, I unplugged the new Windows-only disk, set its jumpers for the slave position and attached it to the primary slave IDE connector and reconnected my old disk to the primary master connector, then set about configuring my menu.lst file. Here's how I set it up based on info from the mini-HOWTO and an article from Linux Gazette: title Windows98 map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0) rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot I rebooted and when grub presented the list select Windows98. I immediately got the following message: Error: invalid or unsupported executable format. Press any key to continue. So I tried modifying various bits: -removed the second map command, thinking perhaps it was swapping the virtual map back to the way it started. No change. -changed rootnoverify to just root. No change. -removed the boot line. No change. -tried changing the partition specified as root--thinking perhaps my friend had actually installed on a second or third partition. rootnoverify (hd0,1) - Invalid device requested and rootnoverify (hd0,2) - No such partition One bit of additional, and possibly irrelevant, info: a few months earlier under Mdk7.1 I had been trying to get grub to recognize all my system's RAM and, for some reason, ran the lilo command. After that I no longer got the grub menu at startup (though I still booted up just fine) and I instead would see a bunch of black and white text graphics that described my hardware that I assumed was coming from lilo. Then I installed (not upgraded) mdk7.2. Grub came back again but I still got the black and white coming up first. So I'm wondering if I've still got lilo installed on the master boot record and it's chaining itself to grub somehow and that is what is preventing from booting from the Win98 partition. I use 2 copies of windows, one for general use and one for audio work. to do this i had to do as u suggest and format both drives when there were primary master, ( actually i THINK i even installed windows on the one i moved to 2nd master by booting the machine from ide 2, it was none the wiser to my trickery as the disk had been setup as primary master hehe) If u are reinstalling linux grub should see your windows in its new posistion ( it seen both mine with no help from me) if not then i am certain u can point it at it...just not sure how as i havent had to.
RE: [newbie] grub and Windows
If you're talking about Windows 95/98/Me, I doubt it. But I'm no expert. NT/2000 should be able to do it, though. Hmm. Yes, I am talking about installing Windows98. At least two other people have replied that they had success but I don't think they specified which versions of Windows they were using. SteveC, et al? Were you folks using Win9x/me or NT/2000? Again, thanks, ::mark --- Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've read fragments of info in various places that suggest that Grub will allow me to boot Windows from a disk that is not in the master position of my primary IDE channel. Is this true? I just added a second 15gb disk to my currently Linux only box. Can I temporarily put this disk into the master position on the primary channel to install Windows then move the disk to the slave position (still on the primary IDE channel), point grub at its new position, and successfully boot into Windows? Would it work if the disk was on the secondary IDE channel? Thanks, ::mark __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] grub and Windows
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Stewart Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] grub and Windows If you're talking about Windows 95/98/Me, I doubt it. But I'm no expert. NT/2000 should be able to do it, though. Hmm. Yes, I am talking about installing Windows98. At least two other people have replied that they had success but I don't think they specified which versions of Windows they were using. SteveC, et al? Were you folks using Win9x/me or NT/2000? Again, thanks, ::mark --- Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've read fragments of info in various places that suggest that Grub will allow me to boot Windows from a disk that is not in the master position of my primary IDE channel. Is this true? I just added a second 15gb disk to my currently Linux only box. Can I temporarily put this disk into the master position on the primary channel to install Windows then move the disk to the slave position (still on the primary IDE channel), point grub at its new position, and successfully boot into Windows? Would it work if the disk was on the secondary IDE channel? Windows 95/98/ME must be installed to hda1. Win2k can during installation be installed to a partition other than hda1. Once any version of Windows has been installed as long as you use a third party bootloader; BootMagic, SystemCommander, Lilo, Grub or other, Windows can be moved to Any partition on Any hd and will boot and run normally. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.
Re: [newbie] grub and Windows
On Tuesday 24 April 2001 22:32, Mark Stewart wrote: Hi, I've read fragments of info in various places that suggest that Grub will allow me to boot Windows from a disk that is not in the master position of my primary IDE channel. Is this true? I just added a second 15gb disk to my currently Linux only box. Can I temporarily put this disk into the master position on the primary channel to install Windows then move the disk to the slave position (still on the primary IDE channel), point grub at its new position, and successfully boot into Windows? Would it work if the disk was on the secondary IDE channel? Thanks, ::mark I use 2 copies of windows, one for general use and one for audio work. to do this i had to do as u suggest and format both drives when there were primary master, ( actually i THINK i even installed windows on the one i moved to 2nd master by booting the machine from ide 2, it was none the wiser to my trickery as the disk had been setup as primary master hehe) If u are reinstalling linux grub should see your windows in its new posistion ( it seen both mine with no help from me) if not then i am certain u can point it at it...just not sure how as i havent had to.
RE: [newbie] GRUB problems
Boot from your Linux boot disk, Login as root, goto /boot/grub/menu.lst and do a ./install.sh This will get things going. Moose -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] GRUB problems Well, being new to linux I screwed up enough stuff that I thought it good to do a fresh install, but this time something got screwed up with GRUB. On previous installations I was able to have linux on my second drive and grub was able to load windows2000 from my first drive... something that I thought was pretty cool. But this time when my computer boots normally grub gets to "stage1" and then halts... not even reaching the boot menu. Does anyone know what could cause this and what I can do to fix it?
Re: [newbie] grub problem with new kernel
its not just grub. it did this in lilo?
Re: [newbie] grub problem with new kernel
Well, have spent the entire day trying to chase down this problem. 5 minutes ago i installed lilo and the new kernel boots just fine. oh well. Wasted days and wasted nights. Thanks to those who responded. Brian On Sunday 01 April 2001 17:39, you wrote: its not just grub. it did this in lilo? Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] grub
The lastest versions of LILO will be more than happy to boot beyond the 1024 barrier. - Original Message - From: "The Eclectic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] grub You probably have NTFS on your NT4 system partition which LM would use to install Lilo. I mean your C drive should be a fat16 partition (that you could use for W95 or W98) then D drive can use NT4 with NTFS if you want, and last LM and Lilo will be happy to coexist with these two. Use PQ magic to create 3 partitions from the beginning of of your HD: fisrt your Fat 2nd your swap and linux (LM won't boot if too far, 1024 cylinder) 3rd your NT4 partition. Good Luck. Let me if it works for you. - Original Message - From: "Jean-Louis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] grub Did you do a "fdisk /mbr" to clean to boot sector? On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, you wrote: Hello, Long story short...tried to dualboot LM 7.2 with NT4. Really messed up! Now all I get is "grub" with a command prompt after it. Tried fdisk and format to no avail. Just want to install LM 7.2 on clean hdd. Can any one please give me some info? VERY new to Linux. Thanks in advance, Rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] grub
You probably have NTFS on your NT4 system partition which LM would use to install Lilo. I mean your C drive should be a fat16 partition (that you could use for W95 or W98) then D drive can use NT4 with NTFS if you want, and last LM and Lilo will be happy to coexist with these two. Use PQ magic to create 3 partitions from the beginning of of your HD: fisrt your Fat 2nd your swap and linux (LM won't boot if too far, 1024 cylinder) 3rd your NT4 partition. Good Luck. Let me if it works for you. - Original Message - From: "Jean-Louis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] grub Did you do a "fdisk /mbr" to clean to boot sector? On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, you wrote: Hello, Long story short...tried to dualboot LM 7.2 with NT4. Really messed up! Now all I get is "grub" with a command prompt after it. Tried fdisk and format to no avail. Just want to install LM 7.2 on clean hdd. Can any one please give me some info? VERY new to Linux. Thanks in advance, Rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] grub
robert macdonald wrote: Hello, Long story short...tried to dualboot LM 7.2 with NT4. Really messed up! Now all I get is "grub" with a command prompt after it. Tried fdisk and format to no avail. Just want to install LM 7.2 on clean hdd. Can any one please give me some info? VERY new to Linux. Thanks in advance, Rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Hello Robert, Boot up your computer with a DOS Boot Disk. At the C:\ prompt, type in: fdisk /mbr Press the enter key. Turn off your computer for few seconds and reboot. Your boot.ini will kick in. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Turbo Charged Penguin Email
Re: [newbie] grub
Charley Peggy Robinson wrote: I've never run NT but in 95 /98/Me you make a startup disk when you do the initial load. FDISK is on my startup disk and it can be run from there. Also, you may have a boot disk that came with NT. CR Use the Windows 98 Boot Disk. Open the files on the CD or floppy. Fdisk is included. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Turbo Charged Penguin Email
Re: [newbie] grub
finally got it to work thanks to everyones help. Much appreciated can't say enough thanks. From: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] grub Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:10:51 -0500 use your Windows boot disk to start your computer and at the A:\ prompt issue the command to clean your boot sector - "fdisk /mbr" that will take care of it. Mark robert macdonald wrote: Yes I tried that But I get "Error: Unrecognized command" From: Jean-Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] grub Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:46:25 -0500 Did you do a "fdisk /mbr" to clean to boot sector? On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, you wrote: Hello, Long story short...tried to dualboot LM 7.2 with NT4. Really messed up! Now all I get is "grub" with a command prompt after it. Tried fdisk and format to no avail. Just want to install LM 7.2 on clean hdd. Can any one please give me some info? VERY new to Linux. Thanks in advance, Rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Grub startup delay is not working !
Philomena escribi: Hi, GRUB doesn't use lilo.conf, it uses a file called menu.lst in the /boot/grub directory. You just need to edit that file, set your timeout . You may need to run install.sh to install grub onto your MBR, if it isn't there now. It wasn't. I've also had to exec "chmod +x install.sh" to make it work. Thanks!!! ;-) -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
Re: [newbie] grub
Did you do a "fdisk /mbr" to clean to boot sector? On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, you wrote: Hello, Long story short...tried to dualboot LM 7.2 with NT4. Really messed up! Now all I get is "grub" with a command prompt after it. Tried fdisk and format to no avail. Just want to install LM 7.2 on clean hdd. Can any one please give me some info? VERY new to Linux. Thanks in advance, Rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] grub
Yes I tried that But I get "Error: Unrecognized command" From: Jean-Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] grub Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:46:25 -0500 Did you do a "fdisk /mbr" to clean to boot sector? On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, you wrote: Hello, Long story short...tried to dualboot LM 7.2 with NT4. Really messed up! Now all I get is "grub" with a command prompt after it. Tried fdisk and format to no avail. Just want to install LM 7.2 on clean hdd. Can any one please give me some info? VERY new to Linux. Thanks in advance, Rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] grub
I've never run NT but in 95 /98/Me you make a startup disk when you do the initial load. FDISK is on my startup disk and it can be run from there. Also, you may have a boot disk that came with NT. CR
Re: [newbie] grub
CR, I have an NT boot disk that I made. I will try that. Thanks for the help. From: Charley Peggy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] grub Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:10:41 -0800 I've never run NT but in 95 /98/Me you make a startup disk when you do the initial load. FDISK is on my startup disk and it can be run from there. Also, you may have a boot disk that came with NT. CR _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] grub
use your Windows boot disk to start your computer and at the A:\ prompt issue the command to clean your boot sector - "fdisk /mbr" that will take care of it. Mark robert macdonald wrote: Yes I tried that But I get "Error: Unrecognized command" From: Jean-Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] grub Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:46:25 -0500 Did you do a "fdisk /mbr" to clean to boot sector? On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, you wrote: Hello, Long story short...tried to dualboot LM 7.2 with NT4. Really messed up! Now all I get is "grub" with a command prompt after it. Tried fdisk and format to no avail. Just want to install LM 7.2 on clean hdd. Can any one please give me some info? VERY new to Linux. Thanks in advance, Rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] GRUB problem.
i'm only stabbing in the dark, but i'm guessing that you mean that you want to boot the win2k bootloader that then offers you win2k or win9x, is win2k like other versions of win and picky about being on the 'first' hard drive? if so what about getting grub to map the hard drives from first and second to second and first respectively? this may be tosh but then again... bascule On Thursday 08 March 2001 11:27 pm, mok unexpected wrote: Here the story goes, Primary harddisk holds only Mandrake 7.2, where GRUB is the default loader. Secondary harddisk has Windows ME and Windows 200 (dual boot). So at GRUB, to activate the Windows partition chainloader, the code is: title Windows bootnoverify (hd1,0) #second hd makeactive chainloader +1 According to the man GRUB, this should be the syntax to load another chainloader in different hd (other than the first hd). But after the whole night of trying, I still can't get it works, anyone has done the similar things before? Anyone can help? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Grub startup delay is not working !
Hi, GRUB doesn't use lilo.conf, it uses a file called menu.lst in the /boot/grub directory. You just need to edit that file, set your timeout . You may need to run install.sh to install grub onto your MBR, if it isn't there now. cheers, philomena At 06:17 PM 3/9/2001 +0100, you wrote: Hallo! I'm using mdk72 grub. The problem is that i've got an startup delay of 5 seconds in /etc/lilo.conf, but on startup the default OS won't start until i press Enter. My lilo.conf has the following line: "timeout=50" Also when i type #lilo it works but "Warning! BIOS drive 0x82 may not be accessible" appears 8 times 8-? Lilo stays in MBR of hda and Linux uses sda and sdb... THANKS! 8-) -- Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 11407395 Joan.Tur.pagina.de www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
RE: [newbie] Grub timeout!!!
Tom, use your windows bootdisk and do a fdisk -mbr. Then reinstall Grub. It sounds like something got hosed. Moose -Original Message- From: Thomas Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Grub timeout!!! resending as the first time it seemed to dissapear into a black hole! I run a dual boot win98 Mandrake 7.2 system. I used to run a Randish Boot manager on my MBR to boot between different OS's. I installed Mandrake 7.2 putting GRUB on my root partition. However once I realised that now my root mandrake partition was now /hda6 and hence not bootable by Randish boot manager so I decided to install GRUB onto my MBR. Which I did succesfully but now it just spits me straight into windoze (the default) without any delay so I can't select a difference choice. I have changed /boot/grub/menu.lst and added 'timeout 10' to it (it wasn't there originally)first below 'default 0' and then moved it to the top to no avail. I have also tried to install LILO but it comes up with the error partition not found and dies.. so I had to reinstall GRUB again. Regards -Tom Webster
Re: [newbie] GRUB Question
How does this relate to the subject, 'GRUB'? Apparently, you have Mandrake 7.2 running so the subject isn't 'GRUB'; it's "drive access from a working LM7.2". That aside, ---Most likely, with two hard drives, if you have Windows, it's on hda1 and LM7.2 is on a second HD alhough it could just as well be on the same HD as Windows but on a separate partition. Regardless, you have to know the partition. You did make a note of it during installaltion, didn't you? We'll test to see if you can access the Windows HD from LM7.2 . We'll do all the work in terminal mode, not by clicking on icons. Run LM7.2 as root, then do these commands cd mkdir winx mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/winx cd /mnt/winx ls -aF --color=auto You should see the contents of your Windows partition. After perusing Windows, execute these commands cd umount /mnt/winx rmdir /mnt/winx If you like the way these worked, you can create aliases that use these commands so you could look at Windows with just a simple command such as 'win+' and restore back to linux with 'win-' Now to look at any Linux partition, we'll use hdb3 as an example cd mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb3 /mnt/hdb3 cd /mnt/hdb3 ls -aF --color=auto You should now be able to navigate through hdb3. get back with these commands cd umount /mnt/hdb3 CDROMs? mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom cd /mnt/cdrom ls -aF --color=auto to dismount cd umount /mnt/cdrom You have a 2nd CDROM? call it cdrom2 in the above example Oh yes, click icons? try clicking /dev/xxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have to repost my problem again. I cannot access my 2 cdroms or 2 harddrives,using LM7.2. I properly did an "ATAPI" setup and it configured well for the cdroms and harddrives,but now I get the message "11(sigsegv)" when I click on anyone of the cdom or harddrive icons. Can anyone one help me. I really want to get up and running.I am new to Linux and I really need your help. Thanks./
RE: [newbie] GRUB Question
Aaron, I re-install Windows all the time. I currently boot Win98/Win2000/LM7.1. What I do is make sure I have a current Linux boot disk that WORKS. Then, after I do what I want with Windows I boot Linux with the floppy, and as root issue /sbin/lilo. This will write LILO to the MBR and you will be able to boot from the hard disk again. Maybe there's a similar process for GRUB? Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #175132 Usually Powered by Linux Mandrake 7.1!
Re: [newbie] GRUB Question
i had to reinstall win-95 on my second hard drive and it wiped out my lilo boot, so now i have to boot with a floppy. From: Aaron Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] GRUB Question Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:02:42 -0500 I have to reformat the WindowsME drive in my computer so I can reinstall WinME (yet again!) for my wife. My question is the following, will my reinstalling of WInME mess up the link that was made bby GRUB when I installed ML on my second hard drive? Aaron -- Aaron Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] "First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] GRUB Question
On this realm... kinda. I need to get my win98 partition off of my drive, (hda1). I ghost the partition, image it to a new smaller drive, and find that no matter what tricks I do.. Lilo still wants to boot the reimaged partiton. Any clues for the clueless are appreciated. Steelhead - Original Message - From: Carl Foley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] GRUB Question i had to reinstall win-95 on my second hard drive and it wiped out my lilo boot, so now i have to boot with a floppy. From: Aaron Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] GRUB Question Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:02:42 -0500 I have to reformat the WindowsME drive in my computer so I can reinstall WinME (yet again!) for my wife. My question is the following, will my reinstalling of WInME mess up the link that was made bby GRUB when I installed ML on my second hard drive? Aaron -- Aaron Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] "First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] GRUB configuration
On Monday 19 February 2001 15:30, you wrote: Hi, I want to know if exist some tool for configuring grub options, for example how to include another operative system (win2k or win95). thanks!! - Ing. Qco. Emilio Correa Invap S.E. 02944 422121 int. 2473 fax: 02944 423489 (8400) San Carlos de Bariloche Yes, you need to edit the Grub menu, there is an info page to help, open a terminal window type info gruband you will find the instructions there -- John Clarke
Re: [newbie] GRUB configuration
On Monday 19 February 2001 16:30, you wrote: Hi, I want to know if exist some tool for configuring grub options, for example how to include another operative system (win2k or win95). thanks!! - Ing. Qco. Emilio Correa Invap S.E. 02944 422121 int. 2473 fax: 02944 423489 (8400) San Carlos de Bariloche Yep check out 'linuxconf', 'bootmode' :) -- Semper avanti,sailing on Linux, Harm Bathoorn Free evermore. Hoek. NL. |~ | _ ___|__.__\_|_||_... \___\_|__||_|__|__ _\_Triade__NL__/
Re: [newbie] GRUB configuration
Emilio Correa wrote:
Hi, I want to know if exist some tool for configuring grub options, for
example how to include another operative system (win2k or win95).
thanks!!
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Ing. Qco. Emilio Correa
Invap S.E.
02944 422121 int. 2473
fax: 02944 423489
(8400) San Carlos de Bariloche
Use DrakConf and go to "Tools for booting". Click on "LILO/GRUB" and hit
"Ok". Choose "Add" and Choose "Other OS". The rest is self-explanatory.
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Re: [newbie] GRUB customization
You don't have to switch anything around to have your windows partition as the
default. Just open up "DrakConf" and click on "Tools for booting". Choose "Configure
LILO/GRUB". Click on your windows partition and choose "Default". Click "Ok" and save.
You are now good to go.
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Re: [newbie] GRUB customization
Well, if you want to do it the easy way...
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On Tuesday 06 February 2001 11:20 pm, you wrote:
You don't have to switch anything around to have your windows partition as
the default. Just open up "DrakConf" and click on "Tools for booting".
Choose "Configure LILO/GRUB". Click on your windows partition and choose
"Default". Click "Ok" and save. You are now good to go.
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Re: [newbie] GRUB customization
Erik Salisbury wrote: i asked this earlier, but i'm not sure i was clear. is there a way that i can make it so windows is the first item listed in GRUB and thus the default OS to load...i use windows more often and would like not to have to wait by my computer everytime to turn it on, so i can select 'windows' before it automatically loads mandrake. does anyone know if this is possible? thank you very much! -erik salisbury It's very simple!, go to drakconf the clic on tools for booting, then chose lilo or grub (grub in this case), chose dos or windows (i don't know which name you called), then chose default, and thats it. Ok reboot! Jose -- Linux, the choice | Peers's Law: The solution to a problem of a GNU generation -o) | changes the nature of the problem. Kernel 2.2.17-21 /\ | on a i586 _\_v | |
RE: [newbie] grub wont boot
David, I am assuming that you tried to boot from you Linux boot disk... When you do that, you will get a Lilo prompt. Just log into linux as root and run "/boot/grub/./install.sh", No parenthesis. This will re-load Grub and you will get passed stage1 the next time you logon. Hope this helps, The Moose -Original Message- From: LtCdData [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:50 PM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] grub wont boot Hi, after a disasterous attempt to install kde2.0 i decided i had to reinstall linux mandrake 7.1 from CD again. in an attempt to keep everything in /home i only formatted the root partition and then reinstalled MD7.1. everything seemed to befine until it was time to boot up, all i get is "stage1" then it stalls .. usually grub boots up at the stage 2 point but no matter how often i try to get it to work it always comes up with the same stage1 then it stops does anyone know what could cause this to happen... btw i also tried to install lilo but its the same? Bye 4 now David
Re: [newbie] Grub Question
Its just a text file - make sure you are root, and use whatever text editor you prefer. Save the file and thats that - your changes will be in effect when you boot. cheers, philomena At 07:11 AM 1/12/2001 -0500, you wrote: I know that this has been covered, because I remember seeing it. So, please forgive my ignorance. How can I edit the Grub menu after it has been installed? I know that the list resides in /boot/grub/menu.lst. How can I edit that file? Thanks y'all, Chris Kelly --- Boy of Destiny King of Nothing
Re: [newbie] Grub Question
Just become the root user (i.e., do "su", then enter your root password) and open up /boot/grub/menu.lst in an editor -- at the command prompt enter "vi /boot/grub/menu.lst" (replacing "vi" with the name of your favourite editor). On Friday 12 January 2001 04:11, you wrote: I know that this has been covered, because I remember seeing it. So, please forgive my ignorance. How can I edit the Grub menu after it has been installed? I know that the list resides in /boot/grub/menu.lst. How can I edit that file? Thanks y'all, Chris Kelly --- Boy of Destiny King of Nothing -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design
Re: [newbie] Grub Question
D**n, you should have told him about vi! -s On Friday 12 January 2001 02:25 pm, you wrote: I know that this has been covered, because I remember seeing it. So, please forgive my ignorance. How can I edit the Grub menu after it has been installed? I know that the list resides in /boot/grub/menu.lst. How can I edit that file? as root, using vi, vi, vi, emacs, vi, vi, kedit, gedit, ee, or vi. Paul (did I mention I like vi?)
Re: [newbie] Grub question
Hi Kelly Any of the text editors will do the job, so long as you're signed in as root. If you pay attention to the order of the menu items during boot up (just hit an arrow key to stop the count down if need) you'll find them in the same order in the file which should give you an idea of the basic syntax (grammar). I've found that timeout is the value in seconds that grub will wait for a keystroke before going on with the default selection. Default (minus the capital) is the menu item minus one (eg, 2nd one is 1). I'd also suggest reading the manul for grub by going to the consol (any terminal programm) and typing man grub which will give a good deal of info. Hope that was of at least some help James I know that this has been covered, because I remember seeing it. So, please forgive my ignorance. How can I edit the Grub menu after it has been installed? I know that the list resides in /boot/grub/menu.lst. How can I edit that file? Thanks y'all, Chris Kelly --- Boy of Destiny King of Nothing
Re: [newbie] Grub
Hey Alan, Mephit appears that on this execution of lilo, lilo was written to the MBR of hda. Have you tried rebooting since running it? Finally took the time (Well, time ~is~ limited during the week, after all) to reboot. I'm still getting grub. I don't get it at all. Is just removing all of grub advisable? Also, I'd made a boot disk tested it. Works fine runs lilo all the way through. Only trouble is, once at the command prompt, the font logo are larger. Instead of taking maybe a third of this 20" of viewable space, it's taking now more than two thirds. Is there a way to change this? I mean, 1. I hardly need such large fonts, 2. do I really need to be reminded that I'm running Linux? In relation to this, why isn't the info in issu issue.net which comes up on the screen considered a security issue? If you tell people exactly what you're running when they attempt to log in, they'll know how to enter commands, right? With RH 6.0, I couldn't get it to stop doing that because both issue files would just append what I'd type in them to what showed up on the screen. Any way to change this behaviour in lm7.2? Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux
Re: [newbie] Grub
At 02:17 PM 1/1/01 -0800, Meph Istopheles wrote: Hey, I'd mentioned this before, but I'm not sure anyone noticed;-). For a few reasons, I want to boot with lilo instead of grub. Civileme had told me what the grub faq confirms that all I had to do was run /sbin/lilo (as one would do in any other distro to load lilo), but having done this rebooted, grup still loads at the 2nd stage. So, short of deleting all things grub rerunning /sbin/lilo, is there anything else? well if so, probably you need to change the lilo.conf a little bit, just add # for example, and run lilo or if it doesn't work then remove the grub ;)
Re: [newbie] Grub
Irwan, At 02:17 PM 1/1/01 -0800, Meph Istopheles wrote: Hey, I'd mentioned this before, but I'm not sure anyone noticed;-). For a few reasons, I want to boot with lilo instead of grub. Civileme had told me what the grub faq confirms that all I had to do was run /sbin/lilo (as one would do in any other distro to load lilo), but having done this rebooted, grup still loads at the 2nd stage. So, short of deleting all things grub rerunning /sbin/lilo, is there anything else? well if so, probably you need to change the lilo.conf a little bit, just add # for example, and run lilo or if it doesn't work then remove the grub ;) Hmm. Adding a #? Here's my lilo.conf. Admittedly, there are some lines here I don't recognize from RH. Is this where grub's coming in? Maybe the menu-scheme? Attached is my lilo.conf, copied to my /home directory. Meph -- "I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody." -Dave '-ddt-' Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux boot = /dev/hda map = /boot/map timeout = 50 prompt message = /boot/message default = linux vga = normal root = /dev/hda5 read-only install=/boot/boot.b keytable=/boot/us.klt lba32 menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image = /boot/vmlinuz-smp label = linux vga = 788 image = /boot/vmlinuz label = linux-up image = /boot/vmlinuz label = failsafe append = " failsafe" other = /dev/fd0 label = floppy unsafe other = /dev/hda1 label = win
Re: [newbie] Grub
Meph Istopheles wrote: Hey Alan, Mephadd a ' -v' to your command line entry and see what's causing lilo to not overwrite grub. Here's the results (don't see anything that looks particularly wrong, though): # /sbin/lilo -v LILO version 21.5, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger Extensions beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2000 John Coffman Released 18-Jul-2000 and compiled at 11:17:43 on Oct 3 2000. Reading boot sector from /dev/hda Merging with /boot/boot.b Mapping message file /boot/message Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-smp Added linux * Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz Added linux-up Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz Added failsafe Boot other: /dev/fd0, loader /boot/chain.b Pseudo partition start: 0 Added floppy Boot other: /dev/hda1, on /dev/hda, loader /boot/chain.b Added win /boot/boot.0300 exists - no backup copy made. Writing boot sector. This grub thingie is a mystery to me Meph Mephit appears that on this execution of lilo, lilo was written to the MBR of hda. Have you tried rebooting since running it? -- Alan
Re: [newbie] Grub questions
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Joe Lore wrote: I recently installed Mandrake 7.2 and have a few questions about the boot loader, grub. How do I get Windows to be my default OS in the list. Count from 0 up in /boot/grub/menu/lst, for each "title" you find, and change the "default" into that: e.g. timeout 5 color black/cyan yellow/cyan i18n (hd0,4)/boot/grub/messages keytable (hd0,4)/boot/us.klt altconfigfile (hd0,4)/boot/grub/menu.once default 0 title linux kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 hdc=ide-scsi title failsafe kernel (hd0,4)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda5 failsafe title windows root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 title floppy root (fd0) chainloader +1 Windows is the 3rd one, so 0,1,2. Number 2. The 6th line is "default 0" Change that to "default 2" and you're set. Also, what is the command to get fdisk to remove grub from my boot sector? fdisk /mbr I will be putting Linux on a different hard drive soon You'd better!! ;) Paul -- A camel is a horse. Designed by a committee. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 7.2 - Pine 4.30
Re: [newbie] GRUB eats LILO
ah, i see grasshopper. my computer is at least 2 years old i would say -- maybe closer to 3. i didn't know there was any BIOS related stuff. that will probably explain it then. thanks much Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cody Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:48:22 AM 12/7/00 The 1024 cylinder limitation shouldn't be a problem if you're using Lilo 0.21.4.2 and your BIOS supports EDD packet call extensions. If your motherboard is a few years old, it probably won't support EDD and then you'd still get that message. Cody Adrian Smith wrote: when installing 7.2 yesterday, i was going to try LILO instead of GRUB. however, LILO would not install due to 1024 cylinder limitation. i thought that boundry was eliminated. Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Grub Editing
Use Linuxconf , and from there its somewhere under default boot options hope that helps Monster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reg. User 153258 - Original Message - From: "Mike Tetlow" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2000 17:58 Subject: [newbie] Grub Editing Does anyone know of a way or location of a tutorial so I can make grub set my windows partition as the one it boots after 5 seconds of no response Thanks, Mike _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [newbie] Grub Editing
Mike wrote: Does anyone know of a way or location of a tutorial so I can make grub set my windows partition as the one it boots after 5 seconds of no response I did this just yesterday in Mandrake 7.2. Open DrakConf from the desktop, and there should be an icon for boot options, which will let you edit Grub's list. Simply select the Windows option and check the 'default' box. Lemme know if you need more help. - Av - -- Av Pinzur / Crisp Graphics [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Tetlow Sent: Sunday, 03 December, 2000 11:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Grub Editing Does anyone know of a way or location of a tutorial so I can make grub set my windows partition as the one it boots after 5 seconds of no response Thanks, Mike __ ___ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Pinzur;Abraham;P FN:Abraham P Pinzur NICKNAME:Av ORG:Crisp Graphics TITLE:Web Interface Designer TEL;WORK;VOICE:615.633.4250 TEL;HOME;VOICE:615.633.4450 ADR;WORK:;;860 Golden Hollow Road;Dixon Springs;Tennessee;37057;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:860 Golden Hollow Road=0D=0ADixon Springs, Tennessee 37057=0D=0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;920 Honey Prong Road;Hartsville;Tennessee;37074-3002;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:920 Honey Prong Road=0D=0AHartsville, Tennessee 37074-3002=0D=0AUSA URL:http://www.crispgraphics.com/~newav/ URL:http://www.crispgraphics.com/ EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:2817T173548Z END:VCARD
Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?
LILO forever...grub sounds like a fat, gooie worm that squirmed out from under a log to be breakfast for a Robin. -- Mark / * Sometimes it becomes necessary to rock the boat * in order to get the rats up from below decks * so they can be kicked over the side and drowned! * * REGISTERED LINUX USER # 182496 */ *REPLY SEPERATOR* On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 Jim Anderson had this to say! According to something I saw on the l-m site, GRUB is now the default bootloader for Linux-Mandrake 7.2, but LILO is optional in an Expert install. - jim On 11/24/00 12:03 PM, philomena spoke the words: I prefer grub for a few small reasons - you can make changes on the fly and try them out without having to remember to run lilo to effect your changes, and to make the changes permanent you simply edit the menu file- again, as soon as you save your changes, thats it - nothing else to execute. I have heard that the newer lilo versions are more graphical and friendlier, but I'm sticking with grub. I don't think the differences bewteen lilo and grub are not that great - more just a matter of slight preferences. philomena On Saturday 25 November 2000 12:03 am, you wrote: I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not familiar with grub. Why would one want to use grub instead of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere? --doug At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote: Ok, here today's question. I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to boot. How can I get it back to grub? Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run ./install.sh Next boot you'll see grub again Paul
Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?
On Thu, 30 November 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: LILO forever...grub sounds like a fat, gooie worm that squirmed out from under a log to be breakfast for a Robin. -- Mark Mark - Resistance is futile, you WILL be assimilated Barry :-)) Surfree.com - nationwide internet access http://www.surfree.com
Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?
I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not familiar with grub. Why would one want to use grub instead of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere? --doug At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote: Ok, here today's question. I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to boot. How can I get it back to grub? Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run ./install.sh Next boot you'll see grub again Paul
Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?
I prefer grub for a few small reasons - you can make changes on the fly and try them out without having to remember to run lilo to effect your changes, and to make the changes permanent you simply edit the menu file- again, as soon as you save your changes, thats it - nothing else to execute. I have heard that the newer lilo versions are more graphical and friendlier, but I'm sticking with grub. I don't think the differences bewteen lilo and grub are not that great - more just a matter of slight preferences. philomena On Saturday 25 November 2000 12:03 am, you wrote: I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not familiar with grub. Why would one want to use grub instead of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere? --doug At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote: Ok, here today's question. I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to boot. How can I get it back to grub? Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run ./install.sh Next boot you'll see grub again Paul
Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?
According to something I saw on the l-m site, GRUB is now the default bootloader for Linux-Mandrake 7.2, but LILO is optional in an Expert install. - jim On 11/24/00 12:03 PM, philomena spoke the words: I prefer grub for a few small reasons - you can make changes on the fly and try them out without having to remember to run lilo to effect your changes, and to make the changes permanent you simply edit the menu file- again, as soon as you save your changes, thats it - nothing else to execute. I have heard that the newer lilo versions are more graphical and friendlier, but I'm sticking with grub. I don't think the differences bewteen lilo and grub are not that great - more just a matter of slight preferences. philomena On Saturday 25 November 2000 12:03 am, you wrote: I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not familiar with grub. Why would one want to use grub instead of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere? --doug At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote: Ok, here today's question. I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to boot. How can I get it back to grub? Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run ./install.sh Next boot you'll see grub again Paul
Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?
Anyone with windows installed on the front partitions that are migrating over to mandrake will probably appreciate grup as it overcomes the 1024 cylinder limitation of lilo. A few weeks ago I went to onstall SuSE over my mandrake partitions. Since it uses lilo and my boot partition was outside the 1024 boundary I had so readjust some of my windows/data partitions before I could install. And that isn't as easy to do in SuSE as it is with mandrake using DiskDrake. I have since moved back to mandrake for a lot of similar reasons. Nev Jim Anderson wrote: According to something I saw on the l-m site, GRUB is now the default bootloader for Linux-Mandrake 7.2, but LILO is optional in an Expert install. - jim On 11/24/00 12:03 PM, philomena spoke the words: I prefer grub for a few small reasons - you can make changes on the fly and try them out without having to remember to run lilo to effect your changes, and to make the changes permanent you simply edit the menu file- again, as soon as you save your changes, thats it - nothing else to execute. I have heard that the newer lilo versions are more graphical and friendlier, but I'm sticking with grub. I don't think the differences bewteen lilo and grub are not that great - more just a matter of slight preferences. philomena On Saturday 25 November 2000 12:03 am, you wrote: I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not familiar with grub. Why would one want to use grub instead of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere? --doug At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote: Ok, here today's question. I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to boot. How can I get it back to grub? Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run ./install.sh Next boot you'll see grub again Paul
Re: [newbie] Grub/LILO--why?
On Friday 24 November 2000 21:16, you wrote: Anyone with windows installed on the front partitions that are migrating over to mandrake will probably appreciate grup as it overcomes the 1024 cylinder limitation of lilo. A few weeks ago I went to onstall SuSE over my mandrake partitions. Since it uses lilo and my boot partition was outside the 1024 boundary I had so readjust some of my windows/data partitions before I could install. And that isn't as easy to do in SuSE as it is with mandrake using DiskDrake. I have since moved back to mandrake for a lot of similar reasons. Nev Jim Anderson wrote: According to something I saw on the l-m site, GRUB is now the default bootloader for Linux-Mandrake 7.2, but LILO is optional in an Expert install. - jim On 11/24/00 12:03 PM, philomena spoke the words: I prefer grub for a few small reasons - you can make changes on the fly and try them out without having to remember to run lilo to effect your changes, and to make the changes permanent you simply edit the menu file- again, as soon as you save your changes, thats it - nothing else to execute. I have heard that the newer lilo versions are more graphical and friendlier, but I'm sticking with grub. I don't think the differences bewteen lilo and grub are not that great - more just a matter of slight preferences. philomena On Saturday 25 November 2000 12:03 am, you wrote: I am presently running another distro than mdk, so I'm not familiar with grub. Why would one want to use grub instead of the usual LILO, especially now that LILO can load anywhere? --doug At 19:07 11/24/2000 +0100, Paul wrote: On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Kelly, Christopher wrote: Ok, here today's question. I recently upgraded my winblows OS and it overrode my grub. I used the rescue disk and I can get into Linux now. It is however, using LILO to boot. How can I get it back to grub? Log in as root, go to /boot/grub, and run ./install.sh Next boot you'll see grub again Paul Newer versions of lilo (don't know the number sorry) don't have the 1024th cylinder limitation. -- Eddie Torress www.veloct.net
RE: [newbie] grub?
Tigereye, I'd like to know some of those answers too... as far as booting into single user mode don't you just put "linux single" at the prompt? Lewis. -Original Message- From: TiGereYe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2000 17:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] grub? hello, i amm not sure of the phrasing of my question buti have used linux Mandrake for a while and never realized that it uses grub instead of the "normal" screen to load up...i havent noticed that until i lost my root pass on install...and didnt know how to boot up in a single user mode.so i guess my question is...if i want to load up in a single user mode how do i do that?...and my second question is ... is there a way to get rid of grub and make it load up with the "normal" screen? and my third question is what is the difference between grub and lilo? Thanks TiGereYe - Accept No Substitutes - - Dont Start Racin Or I will Start Racin...Bets On That You'll Be Disgracin. __ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup
Re: [newbie] grub loader
Yes, the new version of Lilo can handle placing the system files beyond the 1024 cylinder mark...but... If you partition your linux installation to include 16MB or so /boot partition below the 1024 cylinder mark, you do not have to worry about this at all. If all you are installing on this HD is linux, then make the following partitions, in the following order, and stop worrying: /boot16MB /swapTwice the size of your physical RAM /1GB or more (and, if / doesn't take up the rest of the drive...) /usrat least 1GB /homeat least 1GB The last two partitions are not necessary, but are nice to have if plan to re-install the OS and don't want to have to lose all your personal applications and configuration files. --Greg - Original Message - From: "Doug McGarrett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:27 PM 10/27/2000 -0700, domeone wrote: Hi all, Had a question about the grub bootloader, does it really work like they say it does ? I have a 20 gig drive and the linux site says that with grub your linux os can exist anywhere on the drive and grub will load it. So who has 7.1 and another os and grub and does it really work ? Would like to know. Thank you, Chronos. Supposedly the "latest" LILO can also do that. So my question: does SuSE 7.0 contain that "latest" LILO that can load anywhere? I want to put it on my new machine with the 33 GB drive. __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] Grub question
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, you wrote: How can I edit the Grub menu selections? I have some that I want to get rid of. Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 Under /boot/grub/ there is a menu called menu.1st. That's the one that shows the grub menu at start up. You probably have to be root to edit it so su. -- Eddie Torres www.veloct.net
Re: [newbie] Grub question
Hi Chris, I think the file is boot/grub/menu.lst philomena "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: How can I edit the Grub menu selections? I have some that I want to get rid of. Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
Re: [newbie] GRUB install
The latest versions of LILO have a workaround for the 1024 cylinder problem. Just put 'lba32' (without the quotes) in your /etc/lilo.conf in the main section (before the images are declared). Then run lilo to write to your boot sector. Also, the newer versions have a graphical interface not unlike GRUB :-) On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Roman Korcek wrote: Hi guys, When responding to this mail please email me directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] since I am not subscribed to the list. Thanx. To the problem - I am using MDK7.1 and LILO doesn't want to install properly cos of the cyl 1024 problem so I wanted to install GRUB, but how ? I am not any clever neither from man grub nor from info grub and there is no howto on grub. I would really appreciate if someone would give me a hand with that. My disk is: /dev/hda1, 2 GB (c:) - windows /dev/hda5, 16 GB (d:) - my stuff for windows (progs, documents etc.) /dev/hda6, 1.8GB (e:) - Whole Linux / /dev/hda7, 0.2GB - Linux Swap Thanx in advance Roman -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "One World, One Web, One Programme" - Microsoft Promotional Ad. "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
Re: [newbie] Grub help?
Hi Tom. Thanks for replying. Okay. I've got it setup like this: WD-10 megger - hda with /swap, /, /usr, and /home as partitions. added: an old Seagate 1 gig HD, as hdd1. My Zip drive is indeed, hdc4... So whats the easiest way to change the old Seagate (hdd1) to hda, and my WD (hda) to hdd1? Without losing data, or having to reinstall? Can I just swap entries in /etc/fstab? Only thing I know for sure is there's more to it than just changing fstab. When I was runnin 7.1 I swap'd master for slave on second ide (ie, no bootable drive was involved). I made the changes in fstab, before shutting down to make the hardware change. Bootup failed. I put my install CD in and chose upgrade, but didn't select any additional packages. A few minutes later I had a working system again :) So while the hardware change was successful, I really don't know all that was involved. Since you are swap'g the bootable drive around, you'll surely have to re-install lilo/grub. 'Course, an upgrade will take care of that too. I believe you'd be better off getting advice from someone who's actually swap'd boot drives tho. BTW, when you do swap, don't forget to change the drives' jumpers ;) -- Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] Grub help?
You need to clarify: Are you runnin Windoze on hda1, Linux in a partition on hda, or a 'second' drive (hdb), and then DOS on that 'added' (3rd?, hdd) harddrive? (your zip drive being hdc) I'd guess from what you wrote, that the added DOS drive isn't bootable, not because it's a LILO or GRUB problem, but because DOS expects (demands) to be hda, ie, the *first* bootable drive. If you do have Windows = W9x on hda, edit MSDOS.SYS to 'BootGUI=0' and you'll have a *pure* DOS 7.x environment, no Winblows overhead present, suitable for runnin *any* old DOS game, even the ones on that 'added' drive. Your system will boot to a C:\ prompt, type 'win' to start W9x (no different than with Winblows = 3.x). The drive you added is still viable space for either Winblows or Linux, but it ain't bootable unless you wanna make it hda. -- Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay On Fri, 06 Oct 2000, you wrote: Okay, I installed an old Seagate IDE drive as "slave" on my 2nd IDE channel off my motherboard. My Zip drive is master on this channel. This works fine so far, I've got an icon "dos" on my KDE desktop that lets me look right into the DOS hard drive, and I can cp, rm, mv, even view pics and anims off this drive... Now. How do I go about making Grub use this MS-DOS hard drive, so that I can pick it from the Grub load menu and boot directly into DOS? Note that it is DOS and NOT Windoze... (the drive is already setup with MS-DOS from an old computer I found it in; autoexec.bat, config.sys, command.com, etc, etc, is there) I just added it so I could play some old DOS style games like Ultima, Warcraft, etc,... Thanks as always!
Re: [newbie] Grub help?
Tom Brinkman wrote: You need to clarify: Are you runnin Windoze on hda1, Linux in a partition on hda, or a 'second' drive (hdb), and then DOS on that 'added' (3rd?, hdd) harddrive? (your zip drive being hdc) I'd guess from what you wrote, that the added DOS drive isn't bootable, not because it's a LILO or GRUB problem, but because DOS expects (demands) to be hda, ie, the *first* bootable drive. If you do have Windows = W9x on hda, edit MSDOS.SYS to 'BootGUI=0' and you'll have a *pure* DOS 7.x environment, no Winblows overhead present, suitable for runnin *any* old DOS game, even the ones on that 'added' drive. Your system will boot to a C:\ prompt, type 'win' to start W9x (no different than with Winblows = 3.x). The drive you added is still viable space for either Winblows or Linux, but it ain't bootable unless you wanna make it hda. -- Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay Hi Tom. Thanks for replying. Okay. I've got it setup like this: WD-10 megger - hda with /swap, /, /usr, and /home as partitions. added: an old Seagate 1 gig HD, as hdd1. My Zip drive is indeed, hdc4... So whats the easiest way to change the old Seagate (hdd1) to hda, and my WD (hda) to hdd1? Without losing data, or having to reinstall? Can I just swap entries in /etc/fstab? Thanks! ;-) -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] grub question
Michael wrote: I'm running a dual boot system, Win 98SE, and Mandrake 7.1 with grub as my boot loader. Now I need to reinstall windows, and I know that it will overwrite the MBR which will kill grub. What do I need to do to be able to reinstall grub afterwords? Mike Mikeafter the windows install is complete you will need to execute the install script /boot/grub/install.sh after booting into Linux with your boot floppy. Alan
Re: [newbie] grub question
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Michael wrote: I'm running a dual boot system, Win 98SE, and Mandrake 7.1 with grub as my boot loader. Now I need to reinstall windows, and I know that it will overwrite the MBR which will kill grub. What do I need to do to be able to reinstall grub afterwords? Mike Mikeafter the windows install is complete you will need to execute the install script /boot/grub/install.sh after booting into Linux with your boot floppy. Alan Ok now here is my "stoopid" newbie question :) the floppy i used to make a boot disk during install seems to be badlinux will not even mount it. So how do I go about making a new boot disk? Mike
