[newbie] urgent help - external hd stuff up
OK I have stuffed up I had an old 80g hd hanging around so I bought an external hd to plug it into the computer via the USB as a removable hd. Anyway I went to partitions within mandrake config selected - it had hda and sda so on the sda I selected create It appears to have moved the usr directory to the sda now how do I move it all back help Andrew D Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and you need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-dvd-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk Is what is installed here now Dennis. Is that the package you meant? Thanks for the reply. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Monday 14 March 2005 09:10 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and you need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-dvd-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk Is what is installed here now Dennis. Is that the package you meant? Thanks for the reply. Yep, that k3b-dvd is the one I ment. So that must not be the problem. I am at a loss, all the k3b problems, I use it with CD and DVD and have not had a problem ever. (knock on wood). -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 15:10, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and you need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-dvd-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk Is what is installed here now Dennis. Is that the package you meant? Thanks for the reply. Checking under Software Uninstaller, under the Archiving group, I have cdrdao-1.1.9-6mdk cdrecord-2.01-1mdk dvd+rw-tools-5.21.4.10.8-2mdk k3b-0.11.16-3mdk k3b-dvd-0.11.17-0.1010.1 mkisofs-2.01-1mdk Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpvU0WjbAxle.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Monday 14 March 2005 10:43 am, Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 14 March 2005 09:10 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and you need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-dvd-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk Is what is installed here now Dennis. Is that the package you meant? Thanks for the reply. Yep, that k3b-dvd is the one I ment. So that must not be the problem. I am at a loss, all the k3b problems, I use it with CD and DVD and have not had a problem ever. (knock on wood). I didn't either, until I reinstalled. After that, boom!. It still keeps giving the same error messages. Something about an opc and input/output errors. The debugging message gives this: (this version will show up different than what I posted above because its showing after I switched to Charles Edwards RPMs) System --- K3b Version: 0.11.5 KDE Version: 3.1.3 QT Version: 3.1.2 growisofs --- :-( Failed to change write speed: 8310-11080 growisofs comand: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/scd1 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=dao -speed=8 -gui -graft-points -V K3b data project -volset -A K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION 0.11.5 (C) 2003 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -P -p K3b - Version 0.11.5 -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-darklord/k3bGYOdLb.tmp -r -hide-list /tmp/kde-darklord/k3bGpcqTb.tmp -l -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-darklord/k3bEnU4yb.tmp So I dunno. I did go back, uninstall and try reinstalling the RPMs from Charles Edwards excellent site, but that made no difference either. I'll keep on plugging at it - there's something I'm missing somewhere. Thanks for the help though! :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Monday 14 March 2005 12:06 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 14 Mar 2005 15:10, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 13 March 2005 11:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and you need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-dvd-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk Is what is installed here now Dennis. Is that the package you meant? Thanks for the reply. Checking under Software Uninstaller, under the Archiving group, I have cdrdao-1.1.9-6mdk cdrecord-2.01-1mdk dvd+rw-tools-5.21.4.10.8-2mdk k3b-0.11.16-3mdk k3b-dvd-0.11.17-0.1010.1 mkisofs-2.01-1mdk Anne Thanks Anne. I'm sure some of the difference reflected there is because I'm still using v9.2 and I think you're on 10.x, right? -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Monday 14 Mar 2005 17:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Thanks Anne. I'm sure some of the difference reflected there is because I'm still using v9.2 and I think you're on 10.x, right? Versions, yes, but I would think you still need the packages. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpwOM7VIdSbY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Saturday 12 March 2005 08:51 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: | On Saturday 12 March 2005 02:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: | OK - that's out, then. What about the fstab line? It feels a long time | since I used a 2.4 kernel, so I may be remembering wrongly, but is the | cdrom really scd1? I would go to MCC Hardware Mountpoints and check | everything there - not forgetting the advanced tab. I usually find that | fixes any problems I have. | | Anne | | No, its really an IDE device (the Toshiba DVD reader at /dev/scd0 is truly | a SCSI device). Before when it was working fine, I had it setup as scd1 in | the /etc/fstab file, so I dunno. | You know, I've found that occasionally something will monkey with fstab, and stuff that was working correctly fails to mount, or fails to mount in the correct place. To allow me to see what has happened, I copy my fstab as soon as I get everything working, so I can refer back to it when things go south. (The fstab backup created at changes isn't reliable, because sometimes I don't notice that stuff isn't working for a while, and several changes may have been made). K3b seems to be a big offender (as you have found out). Also, turn off harddrake--you can always turn it back on when new hardware is added. And sometimes, things seem to happen for no good reason that I can determine. I thought that I might be the only one, but I guess not. These are the fstab lines for my CD's with Mdk9.2, no scsi emulation on the reader. If there was, it might make cdrom2 /dev/scd1. none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,rw,user,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/hdd,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 One thing I know, if you unplug a usb device, and don't reboot when you plug it back in, a second mount point for the same device will be added (my camera does this continuously), and it drives me nuts! Anyone know how to stop this? And finally, I quit using K3b. I have a lot less problems with Eroaster because it doesn't continually lose my devices. I don't have any DVD writers, though, just CDRWs, so I don't know if Eroaster even works with DVDRW. e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:31 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: You know, I've found that occasionally something will monkey with fstab, and stuff that was working correctly fails to mount, or fails to mount in the correct place. To allow me to see what has happened, I copy my fstab as soon as I get everything working, so I can refer back to it when things go south. (The fstab backup created at changes isn't reliable, because sometimes I don't notice that stuff isn't working for a while, and several changes may have been made). K3b seems to be a big offender (as you have found out). Also, turn off harddrake--you can always turn it back on when new hardware is added. And sometimes, things seem to happen for no good reason that I can determine. I thought that I might be the only one, but I guess not. These are the fstab lines for my CD's with Mdk9.2, no scsi emulation on the reader. If there was, it might make cdrom2 /dev/scd1. none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,rw,user,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/hdd,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 One thing I know, if you unplug a usb device, and don't reboot when you plug it back in, a second mount point for the same device will be added (my camera does this continuously), and it drives me nuts! Anyone know how to stop this? And finally, I quit using K3b. I have a lot less problems with Eroaster because it doesn't continually lose my devices. I don't have any DVD writers, though, just CDRWs, so I don't know if Eroaster even works with DVDRW. e Hi Erylon, thanks for the reply. Well, see...it was a working setup that I had. Then the problem with my /home occurred and I had to reinstall. I thought I put everything back the way I had it before, but its obvious that I must not have. I use Gcombust here, like it a lot - it works fine with my setup. It does not support DVDs though. K3b did, until now, after the reinstall. So I guess I'll just keep playing with it. :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Sunday 13 March 2005 06:13 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:31 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: You know, I've found that occasionally something will monkey with fstab, and stuff that was working correctly fails to mount, or fails to mount in the correct place. To allow me to see what has happened, I copy my fstab as soon as I get everything working, so I can refer back to it when things go south. (The fstab backup created at changes isn't reliable, because sometimes I don't notice that stuff isn't working for a while, and several changes may have been made). K3b seems to be a big offender (as you have found out). Also, turn off harddrake--you can always turn it back on when new hardware is added. And sometimes, things seem to happen for no good reason that I can determine. I thought that I might be the only one, but I guess not. These are the fstab lines for my CD's with Mdk9.2, no scsi emulation on the reader. If there was, it might make cdrom2 /dev/scd1. none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,--,rw,user,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/hdd,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 One thing I know, if you unplug a usb device, and don't reboot when you plug it back in, a second mount point for the same device will be added (my camera does this continuously), and it drives me nuts! Anyone know how to stop this? And finally, I quit using K3b. I have a lot less problems with Eroaster because it doesn't continually lose my devices. I don't have any DVD writers, though, just CDRWs, so I don't know if Eroaster even works with DVDRW. e Hi Erylon, thanks for the reply. Well, see...it was a working setup that I had. Then the problem with my /home occurred and I had to reinstall. I thought I put everything back the way I had it before, but its obvious that I must not have. I use Gcombust here, like it a lot - it works fine with my setup. It does not support DVDs though. K3b did, until now, after the reinstall. So I guess I'll just keep playing with it. :-) There is an additional package for K3b called K3B-dvd or some such and you need it to be able to burn DVDs. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Saturday 12 March 2005 02:42 am, Anne Wilson wrote: OK - that's out, then. What about the fstab line? It feels a long time since I used a 2.4 kernel, so I may be remembering wrongly, but is the cdrom really scd1? I would go to MCC Hardware Mountpoints and check everything there - not forgetting the advanced tab. I usually find that fixes any problems I have. Anne No, its really an IDE device (the Toshiba DVD reader at /dev/scd0 is truly a SCSI device). Before when it was working fine, I had it setup as scd1 in the /etc/fstab file, so I dunno. MCC shows the burner as scd1,/mnt/cdrom2 and the reader as scd0, /mnt/cdrom which is the way it was before. I guess I'll just keep playing with it. Some magic combination works, although I thought I had set it back to exactly they way I had it before. BTW, the CDRW stuff on it works fine - I burnt some CDs, including disk to disk copying with Gcombust just fine. K3b won't even do that though. Something is up with k3b, something I suppose I don't have set just right, that I did before. Thanks for the reply/suggestions Anne. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] K3b help?
Well, I had a fully working k3b setup until I had a major problem with my /home directory (don't ask - long story) and reinstalled. Anyways, k3b now errors whenever I try to burn a DVD. I've got a Plextor 708a, with the following software versions running: libk3b1-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk k3b-0.11.9-0.092.1mdk cdrecord-cdda2wav-2.01-0.a26.092.1mdk cdrecord-devel-2.01-0.a26.092.1mdk cdrecord-2.01-0.a26.092.1mdk dvd+rw-tools-5.18.4.8.6-0.092.1mdk Here is the /etc/fstab entry (one line): /dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom2 auto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,nosuid,ro,umask=0,user,nodev 0 0 The Plextor is in the master position, secondary IDE channel. It has hdc=ide-scsi in /etc/lilo.conf. Anyone have any idea about where to start? Thanks. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Friday 11 Mar 2005 21:33, Ronald J. Hall wrote: The Plextor is in the master position, secondary IDE channel. It has hdc=ide-scsi in /etc/lilo.conf. Right there if you have a 2.6 kernel, I think. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpflM1qrnnVq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Friday 11 March 2005 04:46 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 11 Mar 2005 21:33, Ronald J. Hall wrote: The Plextor is in the master position, secondary IDE channel. It has hdc=ide-scsi in /etc/lilo.conf. Right there if you have a 2.6 kernel, I think. Anne Sorry, should have added: Mandrake v9.2 kernel 2.4.22-36mdk -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Friday 11 March 2005 05:44 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 11 March 2005 04:46 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 11 Mar 2005 21:33, Ronald J. Hall wrote: The Plextor is in the master position, secondary IDE channel. It has hdc=ide-scsi in /etc/lilo.conf. Right there if you have a 2.6 kernel, I think. Anne Sorry, should have added: Mandrake v9.2 kernel 2.4.22-36mdk and further, here is the error message its giving: System --- K3b Version: 0.11.9 KDE Version: 3.1.3 QT Version: 3.1.2 growisofs --- /dev/scd1: engaging DVD-R DAO upon user request... :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=5h/ASC=2Ch/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error growisofs comand: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/scd1 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=dao -speed=4 -gui -graft-points -V K3b data project -volset -A K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION 0.11.9 (C) 2003 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -P -p K3b - Version 0.11.9 -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-darklord/k3bQ2Kytb.tmp -r -hide-list /tmp/kde-darklord/k3bQb8v9b.tmp -l -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-darklord/k3bYJVCFa.tmp Thanks again. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] K3b help?
On Friday 11 Mar 2005 22:44, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 11 March 2005 04:46 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 11 Mar 2005 21:33, Ronald J. Hall wrote: The Plextor is in the master position, secondary IDE channel. It has hdc=ide-scsi in /etc/lilo.conf. Right there if you have a 2.6 kernel, I think. Anne Sorry, should have added: Mandrake v9.2 kernel 2.4.22-36mdk OK - that's out, then. What about the fstab line? It feels a long time since I used a 2.4 kernel, so I may be remembering wrongly, but is the cdrom really scd1? I would go to MCC Hardware Mountpoints and check everything there - not forgetting the advanced tab. I usually find that fixes any problems I have. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels pgpXoD8fBPbLr.pgp Description: PGP signature
[newbie] URPMI help
Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no matter how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use, it always displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2 is what I want. So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the command once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it always searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out. So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-) Thanks. PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by changing the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI help
On March 4, 2005 09:48 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no matter how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use, it always displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2 is what I want. So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the command once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it always searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out. So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-) Sounds like the servers are no longer holding 9.2 PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by changing the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-( I don't think plf is kept on the same servers. I could be wrong Regards, Dan Gordon -- Fri Mar 4 09:55:05 EST 2005 09:55:05 up 20:56, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.08, 0.01 If God wanted us to be brave, why did he give us legs? -- Marvin Kitman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI help
On Friday 04 March 2005 14:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no matter how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use, it always displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2 is what I want. So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the command once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it always searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out. So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-) Thanks. PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by changing the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-( Did you click the Proceed to step2 button before selecting your sources? I just tried it and it works. BTW: The page is quite pretty now isn't it? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI help
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 16:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Well, I just had occasion to (re)use the Easy URPMI site at: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and I'm having problems with it. I can go through the 3 steps, but no matter how many times I do it, or what browser I use, or which site I use, it always displays 10.1 as the distro in the cut 'n paste section, when 9.2 is what I want. So I thought, no biggie, I'll just manually change 10.1 to 9.2 in the command once I've got it in a shell. Tried that...multiple times, but it always searches the site(s), says its unable to do its thing and quits out. So what happened to the easy in Easy URPMI? ;-) Thanks. PS Well, I just tried the PLF non-free and free, and those worked by changing the 10.1 to 9.2, but the others still won't work. :-( Go to the sites mentioned in easyurpmi in any browser and go up a directory. Choose 9.2 and use edit the command you get in easyurpmi accordingly. e.g. easy urpmi gives urpmi.addmedia plf-free ftp://mandrake.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg/plf/free/10.1 with synthesis.hdlist.cz a visit to this site gives the 9.2 command as: urpmi.addmedia plf-free ftp://mandrake.lcpe.uni-sofia.bg/plf/free/9.2/i586/ with ../synthesis.hdlist.cz (the synthesis hdlists are in the 9.2 directory, not the i586 directory) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI help
On Friday 04 March 2005 09:58 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 04 March 2005 14:48, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Did you click the Proceed to step2 button before selecting your sources? Hmm, I thought that I did - maybe I got in a hurry and missed it (multiple times - shaking head at self). I'll go try it again. I just tried it and it works. BTW: The page is quite pretty now isn't it? derek Yes, it is! Big improvement, definitely easier on the old orbs. :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:46:19 -0600 On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:27 pm, Mike Chalmers wrote: From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote: Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main / , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages. This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very likely demand other packages ad infinitum. So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu. You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what version? If not what does it use? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ It uses xorgx11 I think it is called. It is basically xfree86 but a branch that uses the original GNU license. XFree86 changed their license and made it a bit of a problem as far as free and open source folks are concerned. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com On the ATI website they have drivers for X.org. The problem is they are for the Xorg 6.8 and Mandrake 10.1 uses Xorg 6.7. Has Mandrake updated to Xorg 6.8 yet? If not are they planning to? From, Mike Chalmers _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 Jan 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: Derek, I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on? Yes - Software Installer is a gui front-end for urpmi Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? Thnks. Urpmq and urpmf are part of urpmi. Don't worry about that. To understand better what's happening, go to http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi which describes the command-line possibilities and what they do. You can easily add and remove software with the gui (which is in Mandrake Control Center) but the command line gives you a lot more possibilities. HTH Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB+Lg0kFAvMr/nNX8RAjlsAJ4zX0nEz7yzIVOWCTdouRlR4tQVhQCfU2cy s7QvYN/aNT+renDzJrCeBfc= =0MKh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on? Yes Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? Thnks. Mike Chalmers In Linux all system commands are only available to the system administrator (root user). We call this 'security'. A word that will be unfamiliar to anyone coming from a Windows environment ;-) When you use the graphical software installer it will prompt you for the root password so it can invoke urpmi on your behalf. When using urpmi on the command line you must become root user first with the command 'su' (SuperUser). derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:20:13 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on? Yes Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? Thnks. Mike Chalmers In Linux all system commands are only available to the system administrator (root user). We call this 'security'. A word that will be unfamiliar to anyone coming from a Windows environment ;-) When you use the graphical software installer it will prompt you for the root password so it can invoke urpmi on your behalf. When using urpmi on the command line you must become root user first with the command 'su' (SuperUser). derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote: Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages. This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very likely demand other packages ad infinitum. So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu. You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote: Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages. This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very likely demand other packages ad infinitum. So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu. You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what version? If not what does it use? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:27 pm, Mike Chalmers wrote: From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote: Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main / , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages. This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very likely demand other packages ad infinitum. So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu. You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what version? If not what does it use? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ It uses xorgx11 I think it is called. It is basically xfree86 but a branch that uses the original GNU license. XFree86 changed their license and made it a bit of a problem as far as free and open source folks are concerned. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
(I cleaned up the post to make it easier to read. From, Mike) To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :- For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel') I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone. Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel) To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0. If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages that get stuck in circular dependency. I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Derek, Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need a reply on that. Thanks, Mike Chalmers ***The post about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on this. _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 03:48, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. SNIP Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need a reply on that. Thanks, Mike Chalmers ***The post about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on this. I had already given instructions on how to install the Mandrake 2.6.8 kernel. Just click on the link above using konqueror, find the kernel you want to install and click on it. That will invoke 'gurpmi' which is a little graphical application which will use urpmi to download and install it for you. (I am not sure, but this kernel may say it needs to install another package called 'udev', in which case upgrading to 10.1 may be a better alternative) If you wanted to upgrade to 10.1 the easiest way is to simply obtain the 10.1 install CDs and choose the 'upgrade' option when you boot from the CD. Everything is then taken care of for you. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 15:32, Derek Jennings wrote: I had already given instructions on how to install the Mandrake 2.6.8 kernel. Just click on the link above using konqueror, find the kernel you want to install and click on it. That will invoke 'gurpmi' which is a little graphical application which will use urpmi to download and install it for you. (I am not sure, but this kernel may say it needs to install another package called 'udev', in which case upgrading to 10.1 may be a better alternative) If you wanted to upgrade to 10.1 the easiest way is to simply obtain the 10.1 install CDs and choose the 'upgrade' option when you boot from the CD. Everything is then taken care of for you. Not always. I had problems as lilo failed to point to the right kernels on two updates, even though 2.4 and 2.6 kernels were present in lilo.conf I got kernel panics from both.. It appears that initrd.img and vmlinuz were not accurately updated. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:32:28 + On Wednesday 26 January 2005 03:48, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. SNIP Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need a reply on that. Thanks, Mike Chalmers ***The post about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on this. I had already given instructions on how to install the Mandrake 2.6.8 kernel. Just click on the link above using konqueror, find the kernel you want to install and click on it. That will invoke 'gurpmi' which is a little graphical application which will use urpmi to download and install it for you. (I am not sure, but this kernel may say it needs to install another package called 'udev', in which case upgrading to 10.1 may be a better alternative) If you wanted to upgrade to 10.1 the easiest way is to simply obtain the 10.1 install CDs and choose the 'upgrade' option when you boot from the CD. Everything is then taken care of for you. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Derek, I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on? Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? Thnks. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:14:42 + On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compil ing-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek Derek, I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far behind it may fix the problem. If I can't use the 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks. From, Mike Chalmers To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :- For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel') I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone. Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel) To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0. If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages that get stuck in circular dependency. I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compil ing-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek Derek, I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far behind it may fix the problem. If I can't use the 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks. From, Mike Chalmers To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :- For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel') I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone. Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel) To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0. If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages that get stuck in circular dependency. I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] konqueror help
can konqueror be made to load pages faster.is there any settings i can ajust. any help would be gratefull. dave... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] konqueror help
On Monday 24 Jan 2005 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can konqueror be made to load pages faster.is there any settings i can ajust. any help would be gratefull. dave... Don't think so. Usually the problem is data bottlenecks. They can be anywhere... What sort of problems and timescales are you getting for these sites that are slow ?? Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] konqueror help
On Monday 24 Jan 2005 16:52, Elwyn wrote: hi elwyn thanks for the reply.im using mandrake 10.1 and konqueror as the browser.it takes about 20+ seconds to load.just woundered if there was a way to speed it up a little. On Monday 24 Jan 2005 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can konqueror be made to load pages faster.is there any settings i can ajust. any help would be gratefull. dave... Don't think so. Usually the problem is data bottlenecks. They can be anywhere... What sort of problems and timescales are you getting for these sites that are slow ?? Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] konqueror help
On Monday 24 Jan 2005 19:08, Dave Needham wrote: On Monday 24 Jan 2005 18:52, you wrote: WELL ACTUALY im using an pentium 3 with about 200 megs on broadband connection., but when i installed it and loaded ther driver for the modem which was the eagle driver i did something which made the pages load up fast aas ? When you reply you need to send it to newbie@linux-mandrake.com so others can see and help you as well. I found my last problem for that was because I had a return-to / reply-to address set. Are you in KDE? If you open Home does it take that long to load as well? Try it and then in the address bar type in a web address... As they're the same application effectively... Cheers, Elwyn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] konqueror help
On Monday 24 January 2005 18:09, Dave Needham wrote: On Monday 24 Jan 2005 16:52, Elwyn wrote: hi elwyn thanks for the reply.im using mandrake 10.1 and konqueror as the browser.it takes about 20+ seconds to load.just woundered if there was a way to speed it up a little. On Monday 24 Jan 2005 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can konqueror be made to load pages faster.is there any settings i can ajust. any help would be gratefull. dave... Don't think so. Usually the problem is data bottlenecks. They can be anywhere... What sort of problems and timescales are you getting for these sites that are slow ?? Elwyn Try disabling IPver6 by putting the line alias net-pf-10 off in the file /etc/modprobe.conf and reboot. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Monday 24 January 2005 05:14, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/comp il ing-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek Derek, I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far behind it may fix the problem. If I can't use the 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks. From, Mike Chalmers To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :- For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel') I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone. Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel) To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/med ia/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0. If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages that get stuck in circular dependency. I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource. derek IMHO kernel upgrade will not fix your problem. However, their possibility to upgrade to next kernel version with no pain at all. DANGER YOU CAN KILL YOUR SYSTEM BY FOLLOWING MY INSTRACTIONS. READ AND PRINT INSTRACTION BEFORE ACTUALLY USING IT. IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ASK UBEFORE/U USING. 1.Download from ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS; file named kernel-2.6.8.1.20mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm. 2.Then go to command line by pressing alt+ctrl+f1. 3. Login as root 4. type: cd /place_you_saved_the_file_to. 5. type: urpmi kernel-2.6.8.1.20mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 6. type: cd /etc/ 7. type: vi lilo.conf (you may need to read man for lilo.conf) 8. check if everithing is ok in the lilo.conf file (it should be) 9. quit vi by pressing esc and then type :q 10 type: lilo 11. reboot by pressing ctrl+alt+del or typing reboot. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it.
[newbie] need help patching kernel
I currently have kernel 2.6.3-7mdk installed. I want to update to 2.6.10. I downloaded the file patch-2.6.10.bz2 from kernel.org. I also installed patch-2.5.9-2mdk.i586.rpm. I don't know how to install the 2.6.10 patch. Will someone tell me the command to use to update the kernel to 2.6.10. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Sunday 23 January 2005 18:39, Mike Chalmers wrote: I currently have kernel 2.6.3-7mdk installed. I want to update to 2.6.10. I downloaded the file patch-2.6.10.bz2 from kernel.org. I also installed patch-2.5.9-2mdk.i586.rpm. I don't know how to install the 2.6.10 patch. Will someone tell me the command to use to update the kernel to 2.6.10. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:57:48 -0500 On Sunday 23 January 2005 18:39, Mike Chalmers wrote: I currently have kernel 2.6.3-7mdk installed. I want to update to 2.6.10. I downloaded the file patch-2.6.10.bz2 from kernel.org. I also installed patch-2.5.9-2mdk.i586.rpm. I don't know how to install the 2.6.10 patch. Will someone tell me the command to use to update the kernel to 2.6.10. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:19:03 + On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com So you are saying that there is not a Mandrake 2.6.10 kernel yet? I have an ATI 9800 video card and it is very very slow with the fglrx driver installed. I thought patching the kernel might could fix this slow problem. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
At 08:19 PM 1/23/2005, you wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. Updating my kernel on 10.0 is just where I am and I need advice. I cannot come up with any kernels using urpmq or urpmf even at 2.6.8 and up. This is after updating urpmi successfully to the point this week that I was able to install a huge slew of progams successfully with urpmi with practically no dependency problems. This also included over 800 meg of updates :-). Am I doing something wrong? Please help me know how I can take the easiest and fastest way to upgrade the kernel to the present stable one. I will be pleased to be totally up to date for once but I look to when this is successfully done so I can go on to other things I wish to do. Just a thought. Is there a way to update urpmi only for the kernel?? With thanks. I will try to follow the rest of this thread also. Bill Mudry Mississauga, Ontario derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:19:03 + On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Derek, I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far behind it may fix the problem. If I can't use the 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks. From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
- Original Message - From: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:30:31 + Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ Regards. --Angus Margot replied: I had the same problem - don't know what causes it, but the solution for me was to set the connection *not* to start at boot - once booted, open a terminal as root and do ifup eth0 (without the quotes) and everything works from then on. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* * Thanks Margot. :-)) I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted. Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/ What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had my internet connection open on ppp0! This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for learning. Take care. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 Jan 2005 23:09, Derek Jennings wrote: hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. Mine says order hosts,bind multi on This is the default as set up by Mdk 10.0 - I haven't touched it. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4PdVkFAvMr/nNX8RAn2zAKCDI6typ7Syb84id9aYUkOaPUHgDgCeIfes O9QJAJIXHJ0fUibTw4HHwk4= =MTHm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks Margot. :-)) I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted. Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/ What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had my internet connection open on ppp0! This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for learning. Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4QTzkFAvMr/nNX8RAgmgAJ9RHtsSTT2aj7JQOwWyvHe0ArvpxQCeK5Gq BOUcNqs3eg/BWIWfg8sECjg= =nF6O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
Check out this excellent tutie on the subject: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/network-linux.htm It put the see in my TCP/IP. Brett --- Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com = So anyway, check this out: http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/farscape/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks Margot. :-)) I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted. Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/ What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had my internet connection open on ppp0! This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for learning. Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4QTzkFAvMr/nNX8RAgmgAJ9RHtsSTT2aj7JQOwWyvHe0ArvpxQCeK5Gq BOUcNqs3eg/BWIWfg8sECjg= =nF6O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Even I have the same prob...I have configured the eth0 conn *not* to start at boot but it *does* start when the x system is loaded! Is this normal or is there any solution to this??? ps - I am using mandrake 10.1. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:18 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks Margot. :-)) I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted. Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/ What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had my internet connection open on ppp0! This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for learning. Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order? I seem to have the same problem. I can either boot into linux twice and the network comes up or I can use the ifup wlan0 command to get it working. Where do I change the order in which things load? -- Regards Trevor Rhodes === Powered by Linux-Mandrake 10.1 Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org Registered Machine #'s 186951 = Mandrake Club Silver Member Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === 23:01:18 up 11 days, 13:07, 1 user, load average: 0.32, 0.48, 0.36 Never mud wrestle with a pig.. you get dirty and the pig enjoys it! Never try to teach a pig to dance. You waste your time and annoy the pig. Theoretically pigs can fly if propelled with enough force. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
On Sunday 09 January 2005 04:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 08 Jan 2005 23:09, Derek Jennings wrote: hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. Mine says order hosts,bind multi on This is the default as set up by Mdk 10.0 - I haven't touched it. Anne you might not be able to see the file, depending on some things like file permission and msec level, try the command in a text console as root cat /etc/hosts.conf -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:18:27 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks Margot. :-)) I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted. Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/ What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had my internet connection open on ppp0! This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for learning. Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order? Anne Anne, I think you are on to something there. The *order* of these devices coming up seems to be what was giving me the trouble. Since ppp0 is just a *software* device that uses eth0 to do it's thing, eth0 has to come up first, before ppp0. That seems to make sense to me. [8-} I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am not able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new account. :-/ I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0 and ppp0 resides? I can hardly wait to try to get my wireless working when my router arrives. ;-) Best regards to you Anne.you're a gem. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
Angus Auld wrote: ---[ SNIP ] I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am not able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new account. :-/ I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0 and ppp0 resides? I can hardly wait to try to get my wireless working when my router arrives. ;-) Best regards to you Anne.you're a gem. --Angus If you are going to hook the router to the ADSL modem, then you are going to have to redo things when you install it. The router will handle the PPPoE connection, and your Linux box will be a normal DHCP ethernet connection to the router. You have to let the router handle the PPPoE if you want to share the connection with other computers, unless you want to let the Linux box be your firewall. While this can be done one ethernet connection, I am not sure if your router would handle that. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order? Anne Anne, I think you are on to something there. The *order* of these devices coming up seems to be what was giving me the trouble. Since ppp0 is just a *software* device that uses eth0 to do it's thing, eth0 has to come up first, before ppp0. That seems to make sense to me. [8-} I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am not able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new account. :-/ I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0 and ppp0 resides? It's in the subdir here that corresponds to your init level: /etc/rc.d In my case: /etc/rc.d/rc3.d Since i boot into init level (runlevel) 3 eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network Add a line in the format HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my network) The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames. The only line that is essential in this table is 127.0.0.1 localhost If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example 192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain server downstairs-computer /etc/resolv.conf defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses from hostnames. It should look somethng like search localdomain nameserver 192.168.1.251 This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden by the DNS server. hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. HTH derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network Add a line in the format HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my network) The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames. The only line that is essential in this table is 127.0.0.1 localhost You will also want to put your hostname in here. Something like: 127.0.0.1 yourhostname localhost The reasion for this is that some programs will try to look up your hostname, and you get a delay while it tries to find it. If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example 192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain server downstairs-computer /etc/resolv.conf defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses from hostnames. It should look somethng like search localdomain nameserver 192.168.1.251 If you are using dhcp with your ADSL, then you do not need to touch /etc/resolv.conf, unless you are running a local name server. The dhcp client will set this to the valuse supplied by the ADSL modem or router. If you are running your own name server, and using dhcp, you have to add PEERDNS=no to the /etc/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 file to stop this. (If your ADSL connection is not eth0, then edit the correct file for your interface.) For hosts.conf, I usualy use order hosts, bind. (From memory, but I think I have it right...) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
- Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:52 + On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network Add a line in the format HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my network) The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames. The only line that is essential in this table is 127.0.0.1 localhost If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example 192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain server downstairs-computer /etc/resolv.conf defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses from hostnames. It should look somethng like search localdomain nameserver 192.168.1.251 This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden by the DNS server. hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. HTH derek * Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ Regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
On Saturday 08 January 2005 06:29 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ I seem to remember a problem I had like that when I first got DSL. If I remember I had to remove the ppp0 setup otherwise DHCP wouldn't load. -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 20:40:49 up 11 days, 3:59, 1 user, load average: 1.57, 1.32, 1.23 Mandrake Linux 10.1 Official, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk * Jes wonders why so many people in here uses fooZ and foo_sleeping nicks peter Jes: Because they are sleeping? -- Seen on #Linux Live - From Virgin Radio UK The Animals - House Of The Rising Sun Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
- Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:42:45 -0600 On Saturday 08 January 2005 06:29 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ I seem to remember a problem I had like that when I first got DSL. If I remember I had to remove the ppp0 setup otherwise DHCP wouldn't load. -- Chris ** Thanks forthe reply Chris. I don't understand though.if I remove my pppoe setup, how will I be able to use my adsl? I am in a *purple haze*. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
On Saturday 08 January 2005 06:29 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ I seem to remember a problem I had like that when I first got DSL. If I remember I had to remove the ppp0 setup otherwise DHCP wouldn't load. I remember seeing something about this in a FAQ, and I think MCC is set up to handle it. When you are using PPPoE, you don't use DHCP for the ethernet connection. It doesn't realy get an IP at all. Instead, the PPPoE handles all that. It uses the NIC, but not using TCP/IP format, so the interface doesn't get an IP address. I will see if I can find it later, unless someone here can fill you first. (I hope - I am fighting another problem...) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:52 + On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network Add a line in the format HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my network) The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames. The only line that is essential in this table is 127.0.0.1 localhost If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example 192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain server downstairs-computer /etc/resolv.conf defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses from hostnames. It should look somethng like search localdomain nameserver 192.168.1.251 This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden by the DNS server. hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. HTH derek * Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ Regards. --Angus I had the same problem - don't know what causes it, but the solution for me was to set the connection *not* to start at boot - once booted, open a terminal as root and do ifup eth0 (without the quotes) and everything works from then on. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ The flush toilet is the basis of Western civilization. -- Alan Coult ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Freecell Help?
On a box running LM 9.1 (updated from 9.0 a year or so ago), I have been playing freecell at random moments from time to time, and got to a score of 2330. The next game I played, I tried to check the score after winning, and found that the Line containing Game Setting Help is missing. I tried ctlG, ctlS ctlH, and they don't work either. so I can no longer check the score. Logging on as another user, the problem is not there, so the problem is only for me. If anyone knows how to get that function back and rescue the score, I would greatly appreciate the information. Much thanks, Bob. -- -- Bob Read // Registered Linux user #287118 http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/b/e/bestill.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
I sent this last night, but sympa never sent me a confirmation, so here it is again... -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: December 5, 2004 23:00 From: Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On December 4, 2004 14:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? --Angus I just did a re-install recently (had to resize some partitions). You have to choose Custom partitioning (or something like that, not sure I have the exact wording). From there you create each partition, set the size and choose the type. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) --- -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 23:26:48 -0300 Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:10:36 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page? I think that as well as allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of filesystem. I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong. Anne Thanks Anne, I reinstalled, and just allowed the defaults to prevail. I have installed and used Mandrake through several versions now, but I still find the *expert* install option quite cryptic. :-/ Just confirms my *newbie* status. I seem to be having a problem with kded sucking up a lot of cpu cycles...upwards of 75% or so. I have disabled kded, but I wonder if I need it for anything. It may be a bug perhaps, and I haven't done any updating yet. Anybody note any similar issues with kded? Best regards. --Angus ** Yes. Update and it wil be gone. -- Johan Sch Registered linux user #333034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] need help installing 10.1
Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 10.0~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page? I think that as well as allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of filesystem. I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBsifMkFAvMr/nNX8RAtQrAKCMDcBeKCGVjt8qf4MQcEPEGd1/sgCfWuQx +URJuCS+cuvzW67mUM8n/bc= =6R06 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:10:36 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page? I think that as well as allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of filesystem. I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong. Anne Thanks Anne, I reinstalled, and just allowed the defaults to prevail. I have installed and used Mandrake through several versions now, but I still find the *expert* install option quite cryptic. :-/ Just confirms my *newbie* status. I seem to be having a problem with kded sucking up a lot of cpu cycles...upwards of 75% or so. I have disabled kded, but I wonder if I need it for anything. It may be a bug perhaps, and I haven't done any updating yet. Anybody note any similar issues with kded? Best regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 10.0~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
From: Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 23:26:48 -0300 - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:10:36 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page? I think that as well as allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of filesystem. I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong. Anne Thanks Anne, I reinstalled, and just allowed the defaults to prevail. I have installed and used Mandrake through several versions now, but I still find the *expert* install option quite cryptic. :-/ Just confirms my *newbie* status. I seem to be having a problem with kded sucking up a lot of cpu cycles...upwards of 75% or so. I have disabled kded, but I wonder if I need it for anything. It may be a bug perhaps, and I haven't done any updating yet. Anybody note any similar issues with kded? Best regards. --Angus I just installed 10.1 Community Ed with reiserfs without toggling to expert mode. I don't remember exactly what I did. But toggling to expert mode definitely gives you more options. It seems to be straightforward to me. J.T. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc
Are changes made by this method permenent after writing the command in the prompt as you said, or do they anly aply for this boot? Regards Vegard On Tuesday 23 November 2004 07:03 pm, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: In www.mandrakeexpert.com I got this hint to fix a problem I am experiencing. Try to pass this params while starting your pc : linux noapic nolapic I am new tp this, and was hoping someone could describe to my in detail what I am supposed to do and when? Best regards , Vegard IIRC, If you use Lilo, then when the boot selection screen start, press [esc], then a prompt will show. then you type those command. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 20:00:25 up 2:41, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 24 Nov 2004 20:54, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: Are changes made by this method permenent after writing the command in the prompt as you said, or do they anly aply for this boot? If you pass them at bootup like that they only apply to the one boot. That's useful for finding which one works for you. Once you know which one it is we'll help you put it into your lilo.conf, after which it will apply every time. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBpQTmkFAvMr/nNX8RAjW4AKCKC0Vj2TIlsEkloJVirobplppyFwCcDs5w WLR+WpHtYbzJjE457fqoNgE= =Kxw5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc
In www.mandrakeexpert.com I got this hint to fix a problem I am experiencing. Try to pass this params while starting your pc : linux noapic nolapic I am new tp this, and was hoping someone could describe to my in detail what I am supposed to do and when? Best regards , Vegard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 07:03 pm, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: In www.mandrakeexpert.com I got this hint to fix a problem I am experiencing. Try to pass this params while starting your pc : linux noapic nolapic I am new tp this, and was hoping someone could describe to my in detail what I am supposed to do and when? Best regards , Vegard IIRC, If you use Lilo, then when the boot selection screen start, press [esc], then a prompt will show. then you type those command. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 20:00:25 up 2:41, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
i don't know my monitor is recent or not. but it could be. my monitor is LG Flatron F900B. but after installation it's working very well.There must be another problem! AliRob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 07 November 2004 1:59 am, ali tig wrote: dear rob, i solved the problem. it result from my LG Flatron Monitor. when the installation, i take out the Monitor's cable, and then press the enter, after that i put on the cable to the machine againe. then the problem solved. now i'm trying to upgrade and discover my new mandrake :-)Interesting. I have never heard of that problem before. Is the monitor too recent to be used by linux? Rob-- Mountlake Terrace, WAUSAWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comJoin the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:06:55 -0800 (PST) ali tig disseminated the following: i don't know my monitor is recent or not. but it could be. my monitor is LG Flatron F900B. but after installation it's working very well. There must be another problem! There's actually 3 that I can see. 1. Line wrap 2. HTML 3. Top posting http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:18:45 up 98 days, 20:10, 8 users, load average: 0.17, 0.18, 0.10 +++ When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist. -- Archbishop Helder Camara Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sunday 07 Nov 2004 19:02, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Sunday 07 November 2004 1:59 am, ali tig wrote: dear rob, i solved the problem. it result from my LG Flatron Monitor. when the installation, i take out the Monitor's cable, and then press the enter, after that i put on the cable to the machine againe. then the problem solved. now i'm trying to upgrade and discover my new mandrake :-) Interesting. I have never heard of that problem before. Is the monitor too recent to be used by linux? I never tried that solution, but I did have similar symptoms on an Iiyama monitor. IIRC I could start in failsafe, and from there I could change the monitor setup. I think it was trying to start in 24-bit mode, but it worked perfectly in 16-bit mode. I had to do this twice, though, because the first time I ran 'test' which seemed to bork things. The second time I just saved the settings without testing and it accepted them. I've had no problems at all since then. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
dear rob, i solved the problem. it result from my LG Flatron Monitor. when the installation, i take out the Monitor's cable, and then press the enter, after that i put on the cable to the machine againe. then the problem solved. now i'm trying to upgrade and discover my new mandrake :-) Aliali tig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have mandrake 10.0 64 bit. i bought it from the mandrake store a few weeks ago. i will try to send the massage. AliRob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 31 October 2004 12:02 am, ali tig wrote: dear carroll, my system is below. Asus K8V deluxe motherboard AMD 64 processor ATI Rodeon 9800 pro 1 GB ram 2*120 GB SATA harddisk(one of them for windows xp pro)The other thing that we need to see is what happens at boot to stop X from running when the system bootsAnother thing you could do is attach a copy of /var/log/messages to an email and send it to me, or someone else (it might be a bit big for the list) and we can look it over and send the revalent part to the list, which will problem get you up and running.Your system can probably run Linux without problem. Are you running Mandrake for 64 bit, or standard?Rob-- Mountlake Terrace, WAUSAWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comJoin the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com' Do you Yahoo!?Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. - www.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sunday 07 November 2004 1:59 am, ali tig wrote: dear rob, i solved the problem. it result from my LG Flatron Monitor. when the installation, i take out the Monitor's cable, and then press the enter, after that i put on the cable to the machine againe. then the problem solved. now i'm trying to upgrade and discover my new mandrake :-) Interesting. I have never heard of that problem before. Is the monitor too recent to be used by linux? Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
i have mandrake 10.0 64 bit. i bought it from the mandrake store a few weeks ago. i will try to send the massage. AliRob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 31 October 2004 12:02 am, ali tig wrote: dear carroll, my system is below. Asus K8V deluxe motherboard AMD 64 processor ATI Rodeon 9800 pro 1 GB ram 2*120 GB SATA harddisk(one of them for windows xp pro)The other thing that we need to see is what happens at boot to stop X from running when the system bootsAnother thing you could do is attach a copy of /var/log/messages to an email and send it to me, or someone else (it might be a bit big for the list) and we can look it over and send the revalent part to the list, which will problem get you up and running.Your system can probably run Linux without problem. Are you running Mandrake for 64 bit, or standard?Rob-- Mountlake Terrace, WAUSAWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comJoin the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com' Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. -
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...O.T.
On Monday 01 November 2004 21:25, ali tig wrote: i will try to send the massage. heehaw, this is inspector Clouseau's comeback, wonderful;-D -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
dear carroll, my system is below. Asus K8V deluxe motherboard AMD 64 processor ATI Rodeon 9800 pro 1 GB ram 2*120 GB SATA harddisk(one of them for windows xp pro)Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 30 October 2004 05:48 pm, ali tig wrote: hello everybody, i'm very newbie about mandrake10.0. i installed the mandrake linux afew hours ago. but it started in text mode. can you help me how can i start the kde (or gnome) in text mode? i tried the "startx" but it doesen't work. i'm waiting your help. Ali TIGAli:WIthout knowing more about your system (cpu, RAM, motherboard, video card, etc), trying to answer your question is all but impossible.-- cmgWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comJoin the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sunday 31 October 2004 12:02 am, ali tig wrote: dear carroll, my system is below. Asus K8V deluxe motherboard AMD 64 processor ATI Rodeon 9800 pro 1 GB ram 2*120 GB SATA harddisk(one of them for windows xp pro) The other thing that we need to see is what happens at boot to stop X from running when the system boots Another thing you could do is attach a copy of /var/log/messages to an email and send it to me, or someone else (it might be a bit big for the list) and we can look it over and send the revalent part to the list, which will problem get you up and running. Your system can probably run Linux without problem. Are you running Mandrake for 64 bit, or standard? Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA USA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Reinstallation Help Required
Hi Folks I have finally got my mitts on a replacement 80gb Hdd for this linux machine, MDK10. However, before I splash ahead I'd like some advice and stuff 1. It's going to be dual boot so I'd need to install the Win98se first (in a 20gb partition) and then install Mdk telling it to leave the 98 partition right? This will assume that Mdk will sort it's own partitions up right. I'd like to keep the personal files on another partition, is that feasable or is it worth just leaving MDK to get on with it! 2. Samba. Assuming I want to have a samba shared area do I need to create that as a seperate drive?? 3. For keeping all my mail folders and everything is it OK to install the new OS then move the info from the old hard drive to the right place on the new hard drive?? Or do I have to do something else. I know when I last backed up the mail folders k3b changed all the dots to underscores :( Windows had problems recognising some files and that went a bit haywire for a bit. 4. is there anything else anyone here things I should do before the transfer?? Cheers, Elwyn Awaiting your help before I proceed :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Reinstallation Help Required
On Saturday 30 Oct 2004 10:01, SME Server Admin wrote: 1. It's going to be dual boot so I'd need to install the Win98se first (in a 20gb partition) and then install Mdk telling it to leave the 98 partition right? This will assume that Mdk will sort it's own partitions up right. I'd like to keep the personal files on another partition, is that feasable or is it worth just leaving MDK to get on with it! If you need to share data between windows and linux, create a partition formated as fat32 by the Mandrake install (choose 'expert' when you get to the partitioning - create the ones you know you need like this one and /home, which will hold all your personal config files and any data you don't direct to the shared one, and then leave the install to take care of the rest under /) 2. Samba. Assuming I want to have a samba shared area do I need to create that as a seperate drive?? No. You can configure samba any way you want, after the install. Just install both server and client if you need a 2-way system. 3. For keeping all my mail folders and everything is it OK to install the new OS then move the info from the old hard drive to the right place on the new hard drive?? Or do I have to do something else. I know when I last backed up the mail folders k3b changed all the dots to underscores :( Windows had problems recognising some files and that went a bit haywire for a bit. From this I am assuming that you will be keeping the old data at least for a time on the second drive? Yes, you can copy your mail across, but copy the contents of the mail folder, rather than the folder itself. 4. is there anything else anyone here things I should do before the transfer?? It's always a good idea to back up your data, of course, but then I'm paranoid ;-) The main thing seems to be to keep windows from hogging the whole drive - which can be rectified, but causes more work. Good luck. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] HELP...HELP...
hello everybody, i'm very newbie about mandrake10.0. i installed the mandrake linux afew hours ago. but it started in text mode. can you help me how can i start the kde (or gnome) in text mode? i tried the "startx" but it doesen't work. i'm waiting your help. Ali TIG Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish.
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:48:28 -0700 (PDT) ali tig disseminated the following: hello everybody, i'm very newbie about mandrake10.0. i installed the mandrake linux afew hours ago. but it started in text mode. can you help me how can i start the kde (or gnome) in text mode? i tried the startx but it doesen't work. What error messages do you get from 'startx'? Did you configure X during installation (the 'summary' screen, IIRC)? What happens if you just log in and type 'kde'? -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 18:27:34 up 87 days, 18:18, 6 users, load average: 1.10, 1.08, 1.06 +++ It is not anti-Semitic to criticize the policies of the state of Israel. -- Colin Powell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 08:48, ali tig wrote: hello everybody, i'm very newbie about mandrake10.0. i installed the mandrake linux afew hours ago. but it started in text mode. can you help me how can i start the kde (or gnome) in text mode? i tried the startx but it doesen't work. i'm waiting your help. Ali TIG If X11/XOrg is not starting, then there is a problem either with your video driver, or the monitor settings; what I would recommend is that you make sure you know what monitor you have (and it's settings) along with what video card you have; login to the system as root, and once logged in, run XFdrake; make all the necessary changes (and test them); once that is done, you should be able to reboot the system and login to whichever desktop you so desire (or what you have installed). -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- Feeling amorous, she looked under the sheets and cried, Oh, no, it's Microsoft! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 09:28, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:48:28 -0700 (PDT) ali tig disseminated the following: hello everybody, i'm very newbie about mandrake10.0. i installed the mandrake linux afew hours ago. but it started in text mode. can you help me how can i start the kde (or gnome) in text mode? i tried the startx but it doesen't work. What error messages do you get from 'startx'? Did you configure X during installation (the 'summary' screen, IIRC)? What happens if you just log in and type 'kde'? I think one of the main errors he's getting is when he tries to run startx that it says: JoeHill error: unable to locate any screams. (g) -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- Windows Airlines: The terminal is very neat and clean, the attendants all very attractive, the pilots very capable. The fleet of Learjets the carrier operates is immense. Your jet takes off without a hitch, pushing above the clouds, and at 20,000 feet it explodes without warning. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sunday 31 October 2004 00:44, Stephen Kühn wrote: snip I think one of the main errors he's getting is when he tries to run startx that it says: JoeHill error: unable to locate any screams. (g) /snip Careful, Stephen. The week is just 1 hour old (at least here, where we carry our heads upwards), and the quota for zinging Joe is 10 zings per week for the list as a whole, remember ? Ref.: The list etiquette. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 09:53, Kaj Haulrich wrote: JoeHill error: unable to locate any screams. (g) /snip Careful, Stephen. The week is just 1 hour old (at least here, where we carry our heads upwards), and the quota for zinging Joe is 10 zings per week for the list as a whole, remember ? Ref.: The list etiquette. Kaj Haulrich. Fergot that thar rule. Solly cholly. (at least me gots the foist one!) -- stephen kuhn mobile: 0410-728-389 illawarra and regional new south wales --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses Registered Linux User # 267497 Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what? --- Too many people are thinking of security instead of opportunity. They seem more afraid of life than death. -- James F. Byrnes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sunday 31 October 2004 01:04, Stephen Kühn wrote: On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 09:53, Kaj Haulrich wrote: JoeHill error: unable to locate any screams. (g) /snip Careful, Stephen. The week is just 1 hour old (at least here, where we carry our heads upwards), and the quota for zinging Joe is 10 zings per week for the list as a whole, remember ? Ref.: The list etiquette. Kaj Haulrich. Fergot that thar rule. Solly cholly. (at least me gots the foist one!) Sorry, Stephen... forgot the daylight savings time. You got the last one this week. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 09:44:18 +1100 Stephen Kühn disseminated the following: i tried the startx but it doesen't work. What error messages do you get from 'startx'? Did you configure X during installation (the 'summary' screen, IIRC)? What happens if you just log in and type 'kde'? I think one of the main errors he's getting is when he tries to run startx that it says: JoeHill error: unable to locate any screams. Ya, ya, and I bet all his problems would be solved by 'urpmi xfce4' ;-) -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 19:23:32 up 87 days, 19:14, 7 users, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.09 +++ He who does not put out his money at interest, and does not take a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things shall never be moved. -- Psalm 15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Saturday 30 October 2004 05:48 pm, ali tig wrote: hello everybody, i'm very newbie about mandrake10.0. i installed the mandrake linux afew hours ago. but it started in text mode. can you help me how can i start the kde (or gnome) in text mode? i tried the startx but it doesen't work. i'm waiting your help. Ali TIG Ali: WIthout knowing more about your system (cpu, RAM, motherboard, video card, etc), trying to answer your question is all but impossible. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Saturday 30 October 2004 04:24 pm, JoeHill wrote: | On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 09:44:18 +1100 | | | JoeHill error: unable to locate any screams. | | Ya, ya, and I bet all his problems would be solved by 'urpmi xfce4' ;-) No, but #urpme JoeHillwould do the job. just kiddin' Joe e Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:00:49 -0700 Erylon Hines disseminated the following: No, but #urpme JoeHillwould do the job. Good thing my wife doesn't know that one... -- JoeHill / RLU #282046 / www.freeyourmachine.org 22:40:28 up 87 days, 22:31, 7 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 +++ The rich control all the businesses, the newspapers and everything else. But they can no longer control the people. -- Margarita Mendoza, street vendor, Venezuela Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Please help me...
dear et, yes. i'm using the amd 64 version of Mandrake. i bought it from the mandrake store. i mean it's not copy version. i'll try it.et [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 October 2004 13:58, ali tig wrote: dear et, my system is; ASUS K8V DELUXE motherboard, AMD Athlon(tm)64 Processor 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.0Ghz. 1022 MB RAM 2 X 120 GB SATA HDD 128 MB ATI RODEON 9800 PRO do you want to know anything else? i can give you.are you using the amd 64 version of Mandrake?the reason I ask, is the way memory is handled is very different.if you are using the AMD64 version, are you getting to the 'enter for install or f1 for other' screen? if so, then try f1, then type in 'linux nofb' and hit enter. do you have no IDE devices? et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: On Tuesday 19 October 2004 14:33, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 19 Oct 2004 17:27, ali tig wrote: dear aron, i did it. my system bios configured to have the cd-rom as the first boot device. i checked it. there is no problem. i tried to manual install. there is same problem too. i'm trying to find another solution. Ali, I don't remember seeing anything about just what hardware you have got. Can you give us details of motherboard, video card and anything else that is in there? Anne and may we ask if you are using the AMD64 version? if you are getting to the 'enter for install or f1 for other' screen, then you may try some other switches for the kernel. do you have 'shared video memory? what video card are you using? is your agp appature set in bios? you might have mentioned it earlier, but how much mem do you have. (if you have over 780 megs ram, and are using a 32 bit version, you will need to pass a swich that says you have less memory, until the install is done-- linux counter #167806Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comJoin the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Do you Yahoo!?vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!
Re: [newbie] Please help me...
please answer at the bottom of the posts,, it is very confusing to read a post that is intermixed, or top posted. my answer is at the bottom. On Thursday 21 October 2004 13:15, ali tig wrote: dear et, yes. i'm using the amd 64 version of Mandrake. i bought it from the mandrake store. i mean it's not copy version. i'll try it. et [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 October 2004 13:58, ali tig wrote: dear et, my system is; ASUS K8V DELUXE motherboard, AMD Athlon(tm)64 Processor 3200+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.0Ghz. 1022 MB RAM 2 X 120 GB SATA HDD 128 MB ATI RODEON 9800 PRO do you want to know anything else? i can give you. are you using the amd 64 version of Mandrake? the reason I ask, is the way memory is handled is very different. if you are using the AMD64 version, are you getting to the 'enter for install or f1 for other' screen? if so, then try f1, then type in 'linux nofb' and hit enter. do you have no IDE devices? et wrote: On Tuesday 19 October 2004 14:33, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 19 Oct 2004 17:27, ali tig wrote: dear aron, i did it. my system bios configured to have the cd-rom as the first boot device. i checked it. there is no problem. i tried to manual install. there is same problem too. i'm trying to find another solution. Ali, I don't remember seeing anything about just what hardware you have got. Can you give us details of motherboard, video card and anything else that is in there? Anne and may we ask if you are using the AMD64 version? if you are getting to the 'enter for install or f1 for other' screen, then you may try some other switches for the kernel. do you have 'shared video memory? what video card are you using? is your agp appature set in bios? you might have mentioned it earlier, but how much mem do you have. (if you have over 780 megs ram, and are using a 32 bit version, you will need to pass a swich that says you have less memory, until the install is done since you are using the AMD64 version, you will not need to worry about the '780' memory limit. when you hit f1, you will see some instruction to other kernels and switches, you may need to try more than one switch, adnor commbonation of switches, but I am betting it is a problem with frame buffer and your video card, I have an ATI 9700 with 128 meg ram, running amd64 MDK, (but a different MOBO) and I have to use the 'nofb' switch to install too. ET -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
