Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does anyone recommend the SB Radio?
I wrote the top review of the SB Radio for Amazon. However I can no longer give the product a four star rating as the problems continue to stack up with newer FW versions and Logitech doesn't seem interested in putting the resources in to fix them. I will be updating my review to reflect the current issues. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78357 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
Jake-here;526424 Wrote: Just wanted to add my two cents. I'm having a very similar issue. I'm using my own SB server and setting up the alarm using the buttons on the radio. I choose a playlist of my music that is on my server as the alarm sound. At the set time the alarm will go off but it EITHER: 1) plays the correct playlist that I had selected when the alarm was set OR 2) plays the backup alarm for a second or so and then switches to the correct playlist I don't use fade in, so in either case the volume is the same. The latter, incorrect behavior (#2) has happened several times now and I've only had the radio for 9 days! I have verified that my network has been up and running each time this happened. Very annoying problem and frustrating to not have a solution. :( Jake-here. Well, it took them four months to fix the previous problems, so don't hold your breath. Logitech has demonstrated increasing levels of ineptitude when it comes to this product line. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
That's an interesting find. Can you refresh my memory on enabling ssh access on the SBR? I will see if I can catch it in the act myself. I don't, however, believe my network is the cause of this. I have seen the SB Radio go down and lose the wi-fi in 7.4.1 (but not in 7.4.2) even when the network was up and healthy with plenty of other devices going about their business. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
I will attempt to set up the logging on the radio and collect them but it will be this weekend at the earliest. I don't have a lot of time to spend fixing Logitech screwups. :) -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
Continue to get backup alarm sound instead of my music playlist from SB Server 50% of the time on my SB Radio after update to 7.4.2 even after disabling nightly rebuild of my music libarary on my SB Radio. Interestingly this did not happen on 7.4.1 so obviously some fix for alarm reliability has broken my alarm. Does anyone know if a bug report has been filed yet on this? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
I continue to have issues with my SB Radio not waking me up to the selected playlist, but instead waking me up to the backup alarm sound. This is actually more common now in 7.4.2 than it was in 7.4.1 (it happened one time in 7.4.1 and it's happened over 20 times in 7.4.2). I will turn off the nightly library rescans to see if that helps at all. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
Mine had the exact same problem this morning. I think it is being caused by the alarm playlist being set to current playlist. I re-set it to a specific playlist and will see if it works correctly tomorrow morning. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
Siduhe;522575 Wrote: Do you have an automatic clear and rescan set to run overnight or do you use iTunes or MIP autoupdating? I've had problems in the past with current playlist on alarms when the auto-rescan function has wiped the current playlist overnight. I do have auto rescan going nightly so I don't have to remember to run it manually. I had already suspected that could be a problem as well and was planning on disabling it to test. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
Just wanted to provide an update with some weirdness I saw this morning with my SB Radio after updating to 7.4.2. 1. Was listening to my own content (on 24/7 WHS box) last night. 2. Powered off the SB Radio after using iPeng to change my alarm time to 7:00 AM. 3. This morning got a loud burst of full volume backup alarm sound for a second. 4. Backup alarm sounds. 5. I hit the snooze button and check my server. My server is up, working, SB Web interface is working, everything looks dandy. In other words, there did not appear to be any outage to my network, server, etc, and yet the backup alarm went off instead of my own alarm. 6. After 9 minutes of snooze my regular alarm playlist from my SB Server starts playing. Weird stuff with these alarms still is I guess the point of this. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Album Art NAS Problem
Downloading the artwork and putting it into the album folder (and naming it folder.jpg) should work. Realize that you must rebuild the library and album thumbs after doing this for them to show up. They won't magically show up if you don't do a rebuild. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75642 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Album Art NAS Problem
tcrown;520606 Wrote: Thanks, had forgotten to rescan. Seems to work now, though have only tried one album. Much dark matter and thanks to you. Ian mmm tasty dark matter! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75642 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
Well the loud volume burst prior to alarm fade in is not fixed, guess I have to wait for 7.5 for that problem. I thought the alarm default screen was being changed as well to make the time actually readable when the alarm is going off, but apparently that's not the case either. I can only hope that the next update that fixes some of these other issues doesn't take another four months to issue. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
tcutting;520188 Wrote: Maybe erland can figure something out - like allowing one of the custom clock screensavers to over-ride the alarm popup (he has a way to replace the now playing screen). I use the new button setup (volume knob/mute for snooze; back for let alarm continue; power for turn-off alarm) so I would prefer NO popup at all. Well, this is something Logitech needs to deliver. We shouldn't have to rely on third party developers (as good as they are) for basic functionality. When the alarm goes off there should be a LARGE time display and some clear instructions on what to do to snooze, disable, or disable and keep playing the music. I don't imagine it would be complicated at all and I could probably write it myself, but it's something Logitech should be addressing. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
majones;520292 Wrote: Me too. I subsequently bought two more Radios so I now have three. They work just fine. For some reason, I didn't decide to start a post on this forum with rude words in capitals. Maybe it hadn't occurred to you that your experiences are not the same as other users experiences. Alarm functionality on the radio has been very temperamental for me and obviously many other users and Logitech has absolutely failed to deliver in terms of providing fixes (let alone enhancements) in a timely manner. This is indefensible. The best they can do is promise to do better in the future and actually make it happen. P.S. If the word hell bothers you then I would advise you to jump into a time machine and go back about 100 years when one did not run into such words being used in a public venue. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
eap, You are just way out in left (right?) field with this one. 99% of the computers made in the last few years have energy settings that put them into a hibernate mode after a few minutes of inactivity. My iMac hibernates perfectly and when hibernating uses about 3W of power. It takes only a few seconds to wake up so I'm not in any way being hobbled by not having it up and running 24/7. Even though it's an efficient machine, it still uses about 40W of power when it's on (with display off) vs hibernating. So, keeping it on for an extra 16 hours a day would consume roughly .5kW per year or about 150 killowatts per year. This is not a trivial amount of power. Multiply this by 1M homes that currently do NOT keep their PC on 24/7 and you can see that this is a huge increase of WASTED energy for the application of an ALARM CLOCK!! There is no defensible reason that you need a PC on 24/7 for alarms to work on the SB Radio. Logitech is more than capable of modifying the software so that the SB Radio takes its time from NTP (so that it is always accurate) and stores all alarm events completely LOCALLY with no interaction from SB Server or My Squeeze servers. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
eap;519910 Wrote: 40 watts x 16 hours x 365 days = 233.6 KillowattHours (KwH) 233.6 x $.10 (I'll give you 10 cents per KwH which is a lot) = $23.00 per year. I'm not gonna cry over $23.00 a year (do you unplug your a/v receivers and TVs at night)? They eat up electricity doing nothing too. By the way, I think (but I'm not sure) that there is a way to have squeezebox wake up your PC from hibernate mode (if not this firmware, then new firmware). I thought you had it OFF completely. If you hibernate, there might be another way. You are continuing to miss the point. No one should need to leave a computer on 24X7 for an *alarm clock* to work reliably! I do run a server 24X7 but my parents, brother, sister and 99% of my friends have absolutely no interesting in doing this just so that they know they can wake up reliably in the morning when a $5 alarm clock is perfectly capable of doing the same job. And for the record .10 is a pretty LOW rate for electricity. Many parts of the country are higher than that and prices are quite a bit higher in much of europe and asia. We personally pay about .09 per kwh for electric and the rates have been going up at a faster level than inflation for the past 5 years now. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] album art but I've got a NAS
padzster;519901 Wrote: Hi Just got my squeezebox radio which i LOVE. I've just got a question about album art. Before I go on let me tell you my setup: I've got my music on my QNAP NAS on \\qmultimedia\music\artist\album I only use iTunes for ipod pc access so my iTunes library is located on my PC accessing the music library on the NAS. I used the Get Artwork function from iTunes to get various album artwork. I have since noticed that there is an artwork directory under \MyMusic\iTunes\AlbumArtwork. Now on my Squeezebox radio some albums are coming up with artwork but others (which have art on itunes) aren't. Does that make sense? I'm just wondering where the SB Radio is accessing the artwork files from. Ideally I would like to be able to add artwork for all tracks so would like to find out the ideal location to store them. Finally, is there some program or more automatic way of getting pics, and putting them in the right place for every single album, or even track??? Thanks in advance! Have you set the experimental option in SB Server for extract artwork from iTunes? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75581 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
aubuti;519953 Wrote: Then they should get the $5 alarm clock. Until recently my $20 travel alarm clock sat right next to my SB Radio, and that's what I used for alarms because that's what I preferred, even though the SB alarm works fine for me. Yes, by all means Logitech should stop selling to people that aren't computer geniuses because they haven't implemented basic internal alarm capabilities in the SB Radio that aren't dependent on an external server helping the alarm to function properly. Brilliant. If you were responsible for their business plan they wouldn't be in business. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
bluegaspode;519957 Wrote: 1kwh in germany costs about 0.20(Euro)Cent, so 0.27(US)Cent. So much for 'cheap' ;) ... Anyway - jmpage - SB-Server 7.4.2 (final) is available for download already so it should be soon pushed via MySB.com too (if not done so already). Your biggest alarm woes should be gone with this version (even without a 24x7 server). I just went ahead and downloaded and installed 7.4.2 on my WHS. Sure enough my radio was prompting me to update to 7.4.2 firmware. Started the 7.4.2 firmware download. An hour ago. It's stuck on 99% downloaded and not progressing now for 30 minutes. Can I risk a hard power cycle or is there some other way to wake it up and let the upgrade complete that won't corrupt the image on it? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
Okay, shut down, rebooted and it wanted to update firmware again and this time was successful. Now will have to hope that the various alarm annoyances are resolved. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
eap;519975 Wrote: It is also a radio. The internet radio does not function at all without a server somewhere (either in your own home or logitech's data center). So the radio is dependent on an external server helping the radio to function properly. Not to mention dependent on a connection to the Internet in your home. So what is your point? If you want a plain basic alarm clock that doesn't need help -- fine. But that's not what Logitech is selling. Its selling something much more, that requires server dependency for just about all of its functions. You can choose to use Logitech's servers or your own -- and know going in that you lose some features and capabilities if you use Logitech's servers. The SB Radio only requires a server at all because of a foolish decision that Logitech made to handle this stuff all through My Squeeze or SB Server. I can assure you that having alarms handled completely on the SB Radio is totally doable if Logitech so chooses. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] album art but I've got a NAS
padzster;519962 Wrote: Couldn't find that. By experimental did you mean longed for? Go to the Squeezebox Server webpage- Settings button (lower right of screen)- iTunes tab- Check the box that says Extract iTunes Artwork (Experimental)- Click Apply- Report back if this helps. P.S. Squeezebox Server has to be set up for iTunes for this to work, but it's not that difficult to set up. You can simply copy your Library.XML into the NAS and point Squeezebox Server at it, just make sure that the media path matches the library path for the songs and it should work. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75581 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
snarlydwarf;519275 Wrote: You should take back whatever is making you use WEP. WEP is trivial to break in less than a minute ... meaning it offers as much security as duct taping your front door shut intsead of using a lock. Turn off security or use WPA2/AES. Anything else is trivial to break. There are thousands of other devices out there that are WEP only. Many people want some very basic security and live in a low density area where they aren't worried about being hacked by a neighbor but don't want to run their network 'open' either. But yes, let's excuse Logitech for not fixing this problem and instead insist that people throw thousands of perfectly usable electronics in the trash heap because Logitech can't fix a 12 year old feature in their radio. Makes perfect sense. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
So, I installed Squeezebox Server 7.4.1 in October right after getting my Squeezebox radio. I wrote a pretty nice review for the SB Radio over at Amazon and did point out that there were absolutely some software glitches and it wasn't too shocking, the nice people at Slim Devices would fix it. That's before I remembered that Slim Devices was bought by Logitech, who apparently isn't capable of fixing much. It has been FOUR MONTHS that we've been waiting on a dot dot sub-release of code for this radio? Does this mean we get to wait EIGHT MORE MONTHS after 7.4.2 is released before we get the numerous fixes pushed to version 7.5? I almost bought a couple of more SB Radios as gifts around the holidays, but I'm glad I didn't. My family members are much less tolerant of software glitches and bugs than I am. Geez. P.S. You guys can forget about me buying your overpriced $50 radio pack. I'll just build my own. K, thanks, bye. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
The issue that I have with you is that you don't acknowledge that Logitech has an issue to fix. There have been several posts about WEP not working. I'm pretty sure that the problem could be recreated and fixed. Instead of politely coaxing additional details that would help make this happen, you instead prefer to demean the use of WEP, and imply that Logitech shouldn't bother to fix it even if it is broken. The tone of your response above pretty much says it all. Maybe you can try to be more civil in the future instead of coming across as a cranky tosser. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
Maybe you should get your facts straight instead of trying childish redirection in this thread. Seeing as I've been dealing with your likes from BBS days I don't think it's going to pose much of a challenge to show that you are the one who is being foolish. My flame retardant undergarments are 20 years old, how old are yours? Your very first post in this thread included this gem; Snarly Wrote: WEP is -trivial- to compromise and has been so for years. A cow-orker had a similar problem: my question is simple:... why are you using WEP? From the outset you were less interested in figuring out WHY it was not working and instead bashing on the very idea of using WEP since it is old. My response, immediately after yours was this; jmpage2 Wrote: I think that the bottom line here is that if the device is supposed to support WEP then it needs to. Logitech should be trying to gather data from him in an attempt to get this working. Just because it's an old protocol that is easily hacked doesn't mean that they should only make a 1/2 effort to support it. I then said that in the *INTERIM* an option would be to turn security off or ditch the legacy devices. However, I have made it clear in multiple posts in this thread that I consider this a *SECONDARY* option, as the *FIRST* option should be for Logitech to fix whatever incompatibility there might be in the device. There's no need for people to junk perfectly useable 1st generation devices (like the original Squeezebox) just because WEP is easily hacked. It still has to be hacked and that's still more effort than most people will go to. In other words, WEP still tends to keep random idiots out of your network, even if it is a protocol that can be circumvented. The OP also pointed out that he spent over 1.5 hours on the phone with Logitech trying to resolve the problem unsuccessfully. You really think that in all that time they did not verify that the key he was typing in was a valid one? He has an SB 1 that uses WEP I'm pretty sure he understands that he can't use a PASSPHRASE and must use a WEP KEY. As I said, the real thing that needs to happen is that he needs to provide some more information about the model router he has so that we can determine if the problem can be recreated, and then a bug out can be opened to try to get the problem addressed. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
As you can see from other posts in this thread, other users have had WEP issues on the SB Radio which may or may not be addressed by newer firmware. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
See, I didn't realize that since you don't have issues there is nothing wrong with the SB Radio. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?
eap;519648 Wrote: Well just because some people have issues doesn't mean its the radio (could be the user or the user's network). What bugs have you experienced that are definitively the software or the hardware of the radio? I'm still convinced most people would not have issues (or very minimal issues) if they would just leave a computer on 24/7 dang it (who doesn't want on demand email, web surfing, without waiting for a computer to boot), and let it run squeezebox server. Seems like most issues relate to mysqueezebox.com (which go away if you use squeezebox server). I have experienced a variety of software related bugs with the device, many of them focused around alarm functionality. For the record, I do network diagnostics for a living and am pretty competent and capable in the IT arena. Therefore, I don't usually get tripped up by your typical rookie mistakes. I run a WHS 24x7 that runs SBServer WHS version. This version has not been updated since 7.4.1 and I'm not interested in beta testing software for Logitech. The amazing part about all of this is, as I said in my original tirade, this is a DOT DOT subrelease of the software. This is the kind of update I expect to see every month or two, not once every fiscal quarter (or in this case, longer). The annoyance is only increased by the many other fixes/enhancements that have been delayed, the delay of the SB Touch (a year late, really?) and the delay on the battery that has left me building my own. Everyone at Logitech gets to share some of the blame here. From upper management obviously underestimating the resources needed for this project, to designers who have clearly missed the boat on basic usability to developers that (for whatever reason) have struggled to release fixes (in some cases getting help on major issues from the user community). I love the Slim products I've bought over the years. I had the pre-order for the 1st Squeezebox Radio sold in the world. However, what I've been seeing over the last six months leaves me strongly suspecting that this SB Radio will be my last SB purchase, at least until there are some MAJOR changes (for the better) in this division of Logitech. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
baldbear;516858 Wrote: I put together my battery today (both the 10 pack pre-made pack and the kit came in the mail. First of the link to my battery pack http://www.all-battery.com/12v2000mahnimhbatterypack11606.aspx says it is 2000 mah when it's really 2300 (it is EXACTLY as pictured). I took the clear (logo) shrink wrap off the battery pack, then split the black shrink wrap between the batteries off the top. All the battery connectors are covered with an adhesive cardboard strip, so I pealed it back and soldered on 3 wires (and slipped that NTC in the middle, (the batteries are hooked together but there is plenty of space). Now for the gotchas, the instructions are WRONG. The diagram for soldering the batteries together (which I didn't have to do because I bought a pack), show that you put - to - and + to + which will short out your batteries, but the instructions (written), tell you to put the whole set of batteries + to - ( positive to negative, kind of making one big battery). When you put the leads into the connector the diagram is not obvious that they should go into the BACK (the bigger holes) of the connector (it is very difficult to get them in without each touching the next, I separated them with electric tape). I had the whole thing backwards at first and the SQUEEZEBOX reported that the batteries were overhot (I would guess so since it said over 7,000 Degrees C!) Since I only split the black wrap, I pushed it back on (I should have taped it but wanted it to work first.) The pack slips into the bottom of the box very easily, (with at least a 1/2 inch of space, so I packed it a little so it won't move around in the radio). The kit is shipped in a plain white business envelope, kind of risky because it could be crushed, but then there really isn't much to break. Oh and he gives you essentially 2 sets of connectors which is nice if you screw it up, (only one temp sensor though). Charging it up right now. I'm a bit confused by the comments. I would have expected you would only have had to connect the existing positive and negative taps on the battery pack as well as the temperature sensor leads to the wiring connector. It sounds like you also had to wire additional leads from the batteries to either the connector or the temp sensor? I'm hoping that someone will do a bit better step by step directions on this along with photos. I'm pretty close to just ordering the parts and taking a stab at it and if I do I will be doing a full instruction post that the layman can follow. I don't need the remote, so if I can build this for $35 or so then it's worth the savings over getting the official one which appears as though it is never going to ship. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
baldbear;516355 Wrote: I ordered the connector earlier this week, I'll post my results when I get it, (and I'll say how it works/is assembled). Those instructions on that other website are very poor, and abstract. I don't know why he didn't post a diagram of the wiring (besides the wiring of the circuit). I guess he assumes everyone is an EE. I'm not an EE or Electrician but can usually handle projects like this if they are a little more cook book in the approach of the directions. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
agillis;515294 Wrote: Tired of waiting for the SqueezeBox Radio battery? Build one yourself for $5.99. I just built a battery for my SqueezeBox Radio. It works awesome but I need some specialized parts. The pins for the special 2mm connector that connects the battery to the SqueezeBox Radio had a minimum order of 1000pcs. So I decided to offer a kit to built the battery. This kit included everything you need accept the batteries which are easy to get on-line or at your local battery store, RadioShack etc. With the kit you get instructions, the 2mm spaced connector, and the temperature sensor that goes in the middle of the battery pack. That plus about an hour of your time and your ready to go. http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/SqueezeBox-Radio-Battery-Kit-squeezepack.htm Any chance you could set up your ordering page to accept Paypal? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SqueezeBox Radio battery kit avalible
wrf;515365 Wrote: I too built a battery. Major hassle finding the right connector and $5.99 is a very fair price. However, could I persuade you to share your instructions? I followed the instructions at http://cms.diodenring.de/de/electronic/microcontroller/92-squeezebox and there are a few ambiguities. 1. Packaging the batteries. The batteries won't fit in the SBR when using regular battery holders. I purchased two version, and they are both too big. What do you do for packaging? Solder directly to the ends of the battery? That would probably fit, but I'm unsure about damage to the battery. Perhaps use batteries manufactured with solder tabs? That too would likely work, but all the sources I could find charge about $4.00 per battery. 2. Battery taps. The referenced web site puts taps between cells 3/4 and 7/8. It appears to be a guess on the part of the author. Add to that another guess on my part - which tap goes to which connector pin and you've got some serious experimentation going on. My experience was good for a while. I connected the 3/4 tap to to pin 3 and the 7/8 tap to pin 5 (using the numbering scheme on the reference web site) Battery one is considered the first one in the series stack, where the positive connection goes directly to pin 1. The battery charged up normally (topping out at about 29 degrees C) and then I used it straight on battery power. After several hours (about 6) the battery was showning about one third remaining. Music continued to play, but none of the buttons would work. Not even the power or volume button. Pulling the battery connection reset the box, and it promptly did it again. It's now on wall power with the batteries charging again. Clearly something is amiss and I am hoping it is related to the battery tap connections. Again, could you share your instructions? Did you ever get it working? I found the instructions you linked quite lacking as it's not clear to me how he wired the cells together (in series I am guessing) and exactly what leads he utilized in the connector. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75056 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm completely stopped working
Interestingly my alarm did not fire this morning either. No backup sound or anything. It's been working (other than annoying loud startup sound) for weeks so I thought it was highly unusual. I accessed the SB Radio through iPeng and it said the radio was playing. I ultimately had to reboot the radio to get it to start working properly. I'm running SBServer at home (on 24X7) version 7.4 and 7.4 FW on the Radio also. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74464 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple setup - Loud burst before fade in
Marc;509930 Wrote: I've recreated this problem and discerned the pattern associated with it. Please see the following thread in the developer's forum for details: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74438 Marc Posted follow up with my details in Mark's thread as it appears that he's closer than anyone in isolating the issue. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple setup - Loud burst before fade in
kork;509449 Wrote: Before I returned the unit, it was set up as simply as possible. If Logitech wants to test... what I did was this: 1. Plug it in, set it up using the On screen menu on an unsecured wireless network. It automatically downloaded most recent firmware. 2. Set alarm and set to fade in using radio, sounds, whatever. 3. Wait for alarm to go off and enjoy the burst of sound 50(ish)% of the time. No server running software or anything... No wake on lan, just plain vanilla out of the box... No add-ons, no facebook, no radio services installed... No messing with settings. I agree. I have not done all kinds of tweaking on mine either. In my case I simply have it waking up to a playlist that is hosted on my 24/7 home server which also runs Squeezebox Server. I never connect or manage my Squeezebox through the Squeeze network website. This is a pretty easy problem to reproduce. What I'm worried about is that this is a fundamental flaw in the way the radio senses whether it is playing the file, turned on and in the right state, etc. If it is a fundamental problem with the software design then it's going to be difficult to fix, which means it might never get fixed. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple setup - Loud burst before fade in
I have the same problem. You would think this would be pretty easy to set up on a lab environment and debug. My setup is SBServer and I get this loud burst before alarm fade in all the time. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simple setup - Loud burst before fade in
miniwaites;508894 Wrote: I used to have this, however I have now scheduled my PC to wake up a few minutes before the alarm time which avoids the problem. This is obviously not a fix as you always need to get up at the same time! However it does point to this being the WOL still not being properly implemented. The PC I am running Squeezebox Server on is a Windows Home Server that is on 24/7 and is never sleeping so there must be other reasons this is happening. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] MY Alarm Issue, HELP!
I've seen a lot of references to new firmware but mine still says the current firmware it has installed is the latest one available and I installed that back in November when I bought the unit. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74007 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] MY Alarm Issue, HELP!
I don't think the problem is completely due to set up. My SB Radio has always played the alarm for a second or two at full volume before then immediately beginning the alarm with the volume fade-in as it should. If this bug is not already out there then it needs to be filed. The entire point of fade-in alarm volume is to avoid a rude jolt to the system first thing in the morning, something that my SB Radio currently cannot do. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74007 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New 'alarm off' Feature/Change in 7.4.2 and 7.5
bluegaspode;503014 Wrote: This button can be pressed - didn't realize before ! What am I missing else without a user manual ? This button is even easier to find compared to power off. Yeah I kinda like this last suggestion too. Have an alarm popup without a menu, a big clock and in small letters a hint what can be done (because otherwise users won't know when trying the alarm the first time) THANK YOU! Your mockup screen looks very good to me! This is exactly what I've been hoping we would see in the alarm function for quite a while. A LARGE time display while the alarm is firing so I actually can figure out what time it is without having to check my watch in a dark room. It is very clear from the thread that there is no pleasing everyone, however I have to say that I'm dismayed by the increasing demand for there to be a 60 second timeout of the Alarm screen (it might take me a full minute to wake up and I still need to know what time it is when I look at the damn alarm clock!) or the elimination of the alarm screen entirely. If you want to use the Squeezebox as an Alarm clock then there has to be a simple LARGE display of the clock, possibly the alarm time as well, and some very basic dialogue choices for snooze. What gaspode has described would be close to perfect. If you don't want to use the Squeezebox as an Alarm clock but simply want music to start playing at a certain time then I would recommend that there be two use cases. 1. Alarm clock user (90% I would guess). 2. Start playing music at 'x' time and play like normal with a normal screen, no timeout, etc. This I would think could be done through an applet. Logitech needs to focus on use case number ONE. I have written a review of the Squeezebox Radio on Amazon and have gotten a lot of feedback from other users frustrated with the alarm functionality. At the end of the day the majority of the people who buy this want the alarm clock functionality to work as close to a regular $10 radio alarm clock as possible. Make the time display as readable as possible and give the option to snooze as much as user wants. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73506 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] NTP on Squeezebox Radio?
erland;504911 Wrote: Why ? Isn't it synchronized with the server clock ? The radio sets its clock to the server clock at boot time only. From that point on the clock will drift. I've seen my radio off by over 5 minutes before rebooting to get the clock to synch back up. This would be the reason for implementing NTP in the radio. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73808 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New 'alarm off' Feature/Change in 7.4.2 and 7.5
Philip Meyer;505177 Wrote: 1. Alarm clock user (90% I would guess). 2. Start playing music at 'x' time and play like normal with a normal screen, no timeout, etc. This I would think could be done through an applet. Logitech needs to focus on use case number ONE. I agree that case 1 is important. But, I also think that 2 may be a bit higher than you have placed it. Remember that Radio is portable. It has a battery. Many beta testers have theirs in their kitchen, or move it around the house - use it outside, etc. It's more than just something that sits next to the bed and gets used for an hour each morning. And the functionality shouldn't just be for Radio - all players have alarm modes - even the Transporter player shares the same SBS alarm clock features; I can't imagine a Transporter being used in the bedroom as an alarm clock! From the Logitech marketing for the Squeeze Radio; 4-day alarm clock functionality Place the network radio in your bedroom and eliminate the need for a separate alarm clock. Hmm. Seems to me that to eliminate the need for a separate alarm clock you need to work as well as a regular alarm clock and worry a heck of a lot less about trying to please the one-off use cases. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73506 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] It wakes you up but doesn't tell you what time it is?
rickkulp;502509 Wrote: I have the impression from reading this forum that the alarm function wakes you up (when working properly) but doesn't display the time? Can that really be true? If yes, that may be a deal killer for me. Does the Boom work this way, too? Rick The alarm does show the time, although in the latest version the screen will disappear after sixty seconds and show the now playing screen which makes it very very hard to see the time display. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73517 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Does the Squeezebox Radio Keypad light up?
kmr;499195 Wrote: Actually, I've now had my bedside Radio for about 2 months now, and I can pretty much always find the buttons I need by touch, even in the middle of the night. I understand that the backlit buttons are pretty expensive, so I appreciate not having to pay the extra price for them. They do look purty on the Boom, though... Extra cost is relative. $10 alarm clocks have backlit buttons. In all likelihood this would have added maybe $2 to the manufacturing cost of the device. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73062 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
I think that the bottom line here is that if the device is supposed to support WEP then it needs to. Logitech should be trying to gather data from him in an attempt to get this working. Just because it's an old protocol that is easily hacked doesn't mean that they should only make a 1/2 effort to support it. For all we know they validated that it worked with one model of router and it's badly broken with many others. Knowing what model of router the OP has will go a long way towards them being able to recreate this in their lab and getting it fixed. In the interim the options are simple, switch to WPA and strand your legacy device or turn encryption off. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock issues...new ones!
mule;497906 Wrote: Why hasn't the following alarm bug beeing marked as radioAlarmsCritical? Does it mean that we have to wait sometime longer for a solution? https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14742 It doesn't matter what the priority is. That's up to Slim to determine, not you the impacted user. The important thing is that the target milestone for that bug is still in the 7.4.x branch of software. I'm sure about 1 week after they fix this someone opens up the following bug report; when headphones are plugged in Alarm sounds through speaker, when it should sound through headphones. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72712 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Clock/Alarm Backup Battery?
bscherokman;497641 Wrote: I know this is a dumb question but do you have to replace the Clock/Alarm Backup Battery? There is currently no backup battery, not sure what you are referring to. The battery pack will go on sale in Jan/Feb (shipping in February I believe). Like any other rechargeable battery it will have a finite lifespan and eventually will require replacement. Such batteries typically last through about 500 recharge cycles (similar to a cell phone) so probably you are going to see 2-3 years of decent life followed by greatly shortened life after that. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72882 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Clock/Alarm Backup Battery?
bscherokman;497665 Wrote: I am referring to the backup battery (not the rechargable battery) that keeps the clock and alarm running when the power fails. Do you need to replace this backup battery? Thanks for your help There is no backup battery. If you lose power you will not get a backup alarm of any kind. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72882 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm clock issues...new ones!
aubuti;496471 Wrote: Yes and no. Radio syncs to server time, and then runs on its own clock until it resyncs when rebooted. I know because my Radio drifts, losing almost 1 minute per week. To be fair, it's a pre-production beta unit -- I don't know if it is a problem with the final production run. This is in contrast to players like the SB3 that have no clock of their own and therefore *always* show the server time. I can confirm that this is still the case with my final production retail purchased unit. The radio, unlike my other SB devices, sets the clock at boot time and from that point onward it will use its own low quality internal clock to keep time. I have seen mine drift as much as three minutes in a week which is wholly unacceptable. The desired behavior would be that at intervals (probably 24 hours or less) the radio goes back to the server (either local or internet) and resets its clock so that it is always in synch. I cringe to think what would happen if I let a couple of months plugged in without rebooting the radio, as the time would likely be off by 10 minutes or more, which is wholly unacceptable for a device I use to get me up in the morning. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72712 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Limited settings for Radio under Squeezebox Server?
toby10;496134 Wrote: I can confirm that Erland's Daylight Clock screensaver works fine on my Radio. Make sure after selecting all Applets to be installed you then select the Install/Remove option to actually perform the Install. Does your Radio show installing then restarting after you actually select Install? This was not clear to me I will go take another look. I had checked the box for install on the radio itself (under advanced-applets) and the applet never seemed to install. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72669 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Limited settings for Radio under Squeezebox Server?
I just recently installed all of Erland's plugins from his repository and was somewhat surprised to discover that in the server-player-settings webpage for the radio there does not appear to be an option to set the now playing screen saver, stopped screensaver, etc. Is this normal? If so this is really disappointing as I've been used to being able to control these player details from the SBServer web page quite easily. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72669 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Limited settings for Radio under Squeezebox Server?
What a drag. I installed Erland's plugin but his screen saver does not show up in the list of screen savers available on the Squeezebox Radio. I had been hoping that accessing these settings through the web page would rectify the issue. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72669 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Now it stopped working altogether (German data center of MYSB is done for?)
What a joke. You would think they would have some sense and have some level of redundancy in these servers and data centers. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71964 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio on Sale
Companies pay for product placement. It's evident that Logitech marketing is doing a terrible job of promoting and positioning the Squeeze line in BB stores. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71422 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Radio clock not synched with local server
This evening I noticed that the clock on my radio was three minutes ahead of the time on my cell phone. I assumed that my home server must have lost its NTP sync and was drifting. When I checked the home server it was synched correctly and the time was bang on. Three minutes behind the time on the radio. I rebooted the radio and the time shows correct but this leads to some questions. Does the radio get initial time from the server and then do NTP to keep clock updated or does it always take time from the local server? If the latter it does not appear to be working well. Three minutes of clock drift in two weeks of operation is not acceptable to me in a device I count on to get me up in the morning. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71528 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Can't save playlist as Favorite?
JJZolx;486149 Wrote: Did you ever file a bug report on this? I think a checkin was made today to 7.5 that fixes this. I did not. If the bug has not been cleared I will file a bug report. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70684 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Can't save playlist as Favorite?
JJZolx;486151 Wrote: Probably still broken in 7.4, unless this gets merged at some point. Code: Author: bklaas Date: Mon Nov 16 11:58:25 2009 New Revision: 29268 URL: http://svn.slimdevices.com/slim?rev=29268view=rev Log: Bug: n/a Description: Don't know how this hasn't been discovered already, but it was impossible to set a saved playlist as a preset. This fixes that. As long as it is fixed in 7.5 it is cool with me! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70684 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio on Sale
If $149 is the new retail price they are going to sell a lot of units. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71422 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio on Sale
That is pretty amazing. I paid about $168 at BB by using a 12% coupon and cashing out one of my $10 vouchers. Looks like I still get a price adjustment. Shows backordered on the website though. Amazon often matches Best Buy pricing so they might drop their price this week to match. This also might be an early indicator that the entire Squeezebox line will be price reduced next year. I'd love to see a $199 Squeezebox Touch on store shelves next summer! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71422 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio on Sale
Best Buy gave me my price match. So, in the end I paid $139 + tax for the SB Radio. Well worth it! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71422 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Status of radio battery?
MelonMonkey;485066 Wrote: Yes, I'm sure. You could at least read the post that was linked and see Caleb's battery comments and specs instead of just trying to bash what I wrote because you don't agree with it. My comments are based on facts and industry experience. Anyway, IMO, the battery pack and remote package is too expensive for my tastes. I believe they will still sell, though I think at $25 they'd sell a lot more and still provide decent profit. Am I allowed to have an opinion? I know how much it costs to manufacture and ship remotes and AA NiMH cells like this in China. All the power to Logitech for a decent revenue stream, I just really wish that at $200 it had been rolled into the base radio package. Considering your knowledge and experience in this area I think it would be wonderful for you to manufacture alternate battery packs that can be purchased for under $25. With a warranty of course should anything go wrong. I agree that the S-Radio should have had the battery standard, along with the remote for that matter, but unfortunately such decisions lie in the brains of marketing dweebs. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70815 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm only works when connected to mysqueezebox?
toby10;484521 Wrote: Yeah, completely agree on a minimum brightness when an alarm goes off. Not only to see the time but also to help navigate the buttons for snooze etc.. My idea for user controlled brightness per screen is because 25% minimum brightness may work for you, but the next person may want 50%. It becomes a slippery slope to how much user customization you want and how complex it makes the product. For example, I would like three choices when the alarm goes off; 1. Snooze 2. Disable Alarm 3. Disable Alarm - keep playing radio I have not put in an enhancement request for this because it's small potatoes right now when they have much bigger stuff to nail down, and at the end of the day I might be the only user who desires this. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70526 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm only works when connected to mysqueezebox?
My alarm did something unusual today so I thought it would be fun to tack it onto this thread. Last night I changed my Alarm 1 to a new time, 2 hours earlier than it had been set to. This alarm plays back a playlist of 2,000 tracks and has been working fine. This morning the alarm fired at the correct time, but it did not ramp up the volume as it is programmed to do. Instead, it just kind of made a noise and then all of a sudden was playing at the full alarm volume. To add to the weirdness, I noticed I could not make out the time on the alarm. It seems as though the ambient light sensor was stuck in cave mode and was dimmed almost completely. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to add an enhancement wherein when the alarm fires it puts the radio on a pre-determined brightness setting so that it will be more visible in a dark room. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70526 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm only works when connected to mysqueezebox?
toby10;484163 Wrote: Uh huh... see post #5:) http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70618 I think the bigger issue for me is the fact that the alarm didn't do the volumee ramp up. I would like to see a fixed brightness for alarm playback since it's kind of important to see the screen well enough to make out the time. I don't even recommend that this be user controllable, just make it so that when the alarm is going off the brightness is minimum 25%, etc. For me it's not a big deal to have separate controlled brightness for all the different player states you mention. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70526 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] First impressions.... not impressed
Patrick Dixon;472529 Wrote: It was flagged many times during the beta program, but since they knew better then what would change their minds now? If they get a large number of returns due to the registration process they might reconsider their stand in a later version of the radio firmware. I am also concerned about the heavy reliance on mysb.com for the use of these new products. Many of us will want to use them for a decade or longer but how long will the site be maintained? What happens if logitech goes belly up? I have bought the radio and greatly dig it. I am now torn between a v3 classic or a touch to replace an ailing v1. The mysb.com stuff makes me hesitant about the new player. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69446 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm only works when connected to mysqueezebox?
toby10;483741 Wrote: Yes, that is one of it's marketing ideas. Would I recommend such a device be used for alarm clock replacement, no. :) The absence of a simple battery backup ALONE makes this unacceptable for alarm clock use, IMO. My PS3 and AVR are both capable of streaming music, but I'd recommend a SB player. My oven and microwave and coffee maker can all be used as timers, but I'd recommend a simple timer. The SB Radio works great as an alarm. There is room for some enhancement and obviously issues with battery if you have unstable power in your area. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70526 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] A couple of squeezebox radio questions
ModelCitizen;483729 Wrote: Hmm.. seems to be catching. MC Yes, you've infected me. gahh! :) -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71197 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1
It sounds as though the radio will lose presets if network connectivity is interrupted under certain conditions. Which is definitely a problem/bug. The radio should store presets locally and the condition of mysb.com or a local SB server should not affect them. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70268 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] A couple of squeezebox radio questions
Cockeye;483494 Wrote: Having a squeezebox in my living room, and loving it - I am thinking of purchasing one of these from Amazon here in the UK (unfortunately we have to buy blind as no-one stocks squeezebox on the high street). My two questions are : 1) Is there a sleep function on it? ie can I program it t play a gentle songs playlists for, say, two hours before turning off? 2) Can I wake to my choice of radio or playlists? 3) Is the radio easy to use? I really can't get the hang of using the radio on my squeezebox in the living room :( 4) Will it work with iPeng? Thanks in advance - I am ready to order, just need the confirmation on the above. Cheers! Yes, to all of the above. Be aware that there's no quick way to put the radio into snooze. Currently you must either navigate into the snooze menu through the home button on the radio or you can use iPeng to put it into Snooze mode. Also be aware that you can't assign a playlist to a preset button, you must initially make the playlist a favorite from the web interface and then you can assign a favorite to the preset button on the front of the radio. On the whole the radio is a really nifty product, with some room for improvement. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71197 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1
peterw;483491 Wrote: Good point. For this, I think a popup with a big 1-6 number would suffice, don't you? SBS/MySB could then start playback or push a popup saying the preset was undefined. I can see the use of large format numerals from the standpoint that there are plugins, etc, that will treat the buttons as something other than presets. For example, mapping one of the buttons to cycle through sleep timer intervals on the device (I actually think that turning the main knob left would be perfect for this purpose, then turn the knob right to change the now playing screen). However it is done, the radio should *immediately* communicate to the user that it knows a preset button has been selected, then followed by additional logic that tells the user that some activity is happening, or the name of the preset as stored server side, etc. As it is now it is too slow and has too poor of a user interaction to be completely reliable. As mentioned earlier, I select a preset button for a playlist file and it is quite a few seconds before anything happens on screen or audibly. I could even the introduction of a hold music stream that streams to the box before the actual audio starts playing. Sounds kinda retro, and most people probably would hate it! ;) -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70268 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Auto dimming changed and too dim
ModelCitizen;482598 Wrote: Ok. The wife is away and I can't sleep so have just had an extended play with my radio, including putting it under the duvet to ensure I achieve maximum darkness. At no time does my screen get too dark. The state of the device does not appear to make any difference (i.e. Off/playing/stopped). I did notice that if I set the brilliance to manual I could get the screen to go darker than I could when set to automatic. So, I am still of the mind that, with the screen brilliance set to automatic the screen will not get dark enough. I also tried covering up the light sensor, but this made no difference either. MC PS. Have had the misfortune to catch a BBC Radio 1 mix by what sounded like DJ Mede on the Pete Tong show (3-5am). The drugs must be frighteningly strong nowadays if they enable anyone to listen (let alone dance) to this ugly machine noise. It sounds like the ambient light sensor on your radio is possibly defective, you should consider exchanging it. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70618 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is stuttering during streaming
boexli;480758 Wrote: I will test it with a wired connection - today or tomorrow and will let you know my findings. Thanks again for all your help / nick It's been a week, what did you discover? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70651 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Auto dimming changed and too dim
ModelCitizen;483303 Wrote: Funny, my conclusion was that it was the software that was the problem, not the hardware (maybe you assumed that when I covered up the light sensor I was in a lit room? I wasn't, was in a dark room). Anyway, I've now 'upgraded' to 7.5 and if anything the problem is slightly worse, with the brilliance being slightly less inclined to go to as dim as before in a darkened room (although this could be caused by the current bright moon and clear sky). MC I don't understand how you could assume the software is the culprit when plenty of us have reported that the display gets extremely dim in a dark room, to the point of being almost difficult to read the display? I even made a video to demonstrate how dim it gets on auto to which you replied mine doesn't get that dim. And you still figure this as a software issue? You should at least contemplate that you could have a bad unit. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70618 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm only works when connected to mysqueezebox?
pfarrell;483300 Wrote: jmpage2 wrote: davenva;483250 Wrote: I'm worried about oversleeping due to a server problem or a network problem. I'm not sure if I should be, but after the Timezone problem, I am. I think you're being a bit too critical here. Basically the Squeezebox is a computer. It gets its time from either the server or the internet via NTP. For you to get the functionality you request would require the ability to manually set the clock on the device (like your $5 alarm clock) and I'm just guessing, but isn't it easier than this? Davenva probably needs the battery pack from the accessories kit to keep the clocks running no matter what. But with that, unless the server gets its time completely fubar, isn't the clock in the Radio local? driven from the operating system within the Radio itself? Sure, the radio needs a server or internet connection to get to a proper NTP server, but how much drift are you gonna get in a day? Maybe a few seconds, but nothing to worry about. While it is true that PC clocks leave a lot to be desired for accuracy, and the Radio not a PC but it sure is an embedded computer with an operating system. Its got to have the brains and power to do this as long as it has power. Or am I all wet here? -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ I think you could be a bit damp Pat, but probably not wet. The Radio alarm is proven to WORK even if there is no internet or server connectivity. There is even a local alarm sound that will function if the selected playback media is unavailable. It sounds like the person I was responding to was alarmed that having incorrect timezone settings on the PC he was running the server software on caused his alarm to mis-fire. Yes, there is a local clock and it would appear that this individual wants the local clock to run with no outside interference. To do this you would have to sever clocking functions between the radio and the SB server, or at a minimum you would need some kind of radio pref that lets you give the local clock on the client device a higher priority for the alarm. You would also need the means to locally program the clock so it can ignore the network time that is on the server or the internet NTP that it would normally use to adjust its time. Personally I have never had an issue with the alarms and I've been using them now for over a week. I have never had a mis-fire, etc. The time on the Radio is always perfect. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70526 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Auto dimming changed and too dim
I made a video of how it is working on my unit. Camera was about 18 inches from the radio when I turn off the lamp on the night stand. As you can see it dims down to basically complete blackness. The display is just barely visible but so faint that the camera cannot pick it up even when passed directly in front of it. Hope this helps answer questions about whether units are working correct or are broken. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08gSswQJsPk -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70618 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
This is very distressing that things are not being fixed. Well I can always return it over alarm and preset problems and send a message about cheaping out on development. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
pippin;480675 Wrote: Sorry, m ost of these bugs are like one week old. Why do you think they don't get addressed? Heck, if I have to change something on the App Store I need at least three weeks for quality control alone, if you mail in your ordinary alarm radio you probably don't get an answer before a month or so, how about a _little_ patience? pippin, I hear you, however, there is only a 30 day return period to return products. What if they can't or won't fix bugs with presets, alarms, etc? I'm not talking about enhancements but just core functionality. I really like the SB Radio and have given it a very favorable and detailed review on Amazon.com, but I will return it if there is not at least a time line given for the addressing of MAJOR issues that affect core functionality. Time has taught me that companies routinely release products with faults which they then fail to address, leaving the buyer stuck. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
pippin;480704 Wrote: Well, then when the period is over return it and give it another try after 6 months if it's too bad right now. I haven't had any issues with alarms so far (except th occasional backup alarm when the the server could not find my playlist) but I have to admit that I never used the Radio for it... Okay, fair enough. I have only done very basic testing with alarms and have not had an alarm fail yet. I am concerned though that my presets seemed to spontaneously disappear when they only thing I did was turn on the Trackstat plugin on the server. Looking at it now I see that the server log file is over 1.4TB and growing. All of the messages seem to be complaining about Trackstat undefined symbols. I will remove Trackstat and restart. If the presets spontaneously disappear on their own again I will file a bug report. P.S., I plugged iPeng on my Amazon review, good job, it's indispensable! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
pippin;480718 Wrote: Did you import old TrackStat ratings? I recently re-setup my server and moved to 7.5.0 and when I let TrackStat (2.10, I believe) import my old ratings it took down the server for around 12h (it's a slow server), logged a LOT of stuff and caused mysql load that was so heavy that I couldn't even connect a player to the server. I let it run overnight and now it looks like it calmed down and I'm back to normal operation. I remember Erland had some issues with some db change in 7.4 that caused slow lookups and one proposed solution was to generate an additional table with hash ids to speed things up and only cause the slow operation once at startup. I don't know whether Erland implemented that but this was _my_ suspect for the cause, I'll see how it will work in the future... Thanks :-) Have fun with it. I did try to import an XML library file from iTunes that had all of my current track ratings. It had been running for about 24 hours on a very fast HP EX495 that is set up with dual core 2.5ghz cpu. I just had to uninstall it because it is causing way too much server load and I don't understand what it found in the import that caused it to start trashing everything. I'm hoping this explains my loss of presets on the radio although it's a bit hard to understand. I will just recreate the presets and see how things work over the next couple of days. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Auto dimming changed and too dim
The auto dimming does just get a bit too dark for me at night, I can't quite make out the clock. Mind you I want it very very dim because I'm a light sleeper. During the day when any light hits it the unit becomes unbelievably bright. Hopefully we will get the ability to set a minimum and maximum bright level and still let the auto adjustment do its thing. I don't really mind the way it steps up and down, it's not smooth but I only notice it when turning a light in the room on or off. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70618 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is stuttering during streaming
It looks like the thread has been abandoned by the OP, which is unfortunate as the problem probably could have been corrected with some testing. My unit has never experienced streaming hiccups in the few days I've tested it on my home wi-fi. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70651 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Please vote on my preset enhancement request
The preset buttons don't tell you if they recognize a button push before playback of the selected stream or playlist begins, which often results in user confusion and multiple subsequent button pushes which can further slow things down from starting up. I've submitted an enhancement request to always have the radio pop up a message indicating that the preset button has been selected, what the content of the button is and a loading or waiting message while it begins the audio playback. Please vote for this enhancement if you agree it would be helpful. https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15020 Thanks, J -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70833 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Please vote on my preset enhancement request
I have also created an enhancement request that asks for an auto time off so that the SB Radio will shut itself off and resume display of the clock after a period of inactivity. https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15021 -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70833 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
erland;480769 Wrote: Do you have any logs left ? If there was any errors, I'd like to see them. If it's just messages about not finding alternative paths it's not a problem, it just takes time. It's the Logitech tables that's the problem, I'd prefer to not modify Logitech standard tables as it might make their upgrade scripts very complex if they want to handle a database that has been partly improved by a third party plugin. unfortunately I already trashed it. Specifically it was saying symbols not found in the directory which was defined for the database backup for Trackstats. I have a post about my unusual configuration over in the plugins forum which explains things in some more detail. I just tried to feed Trackstats my unmodified Mac based XML file which probably led to the bad behavior. I would need some additional assistance to come up with a strategy for importing the OS X based XML file into Trackstats which resides on Squeezebox Server 7.4 running on Windows Home Server. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Auto dimming changed and too dim
ModelCitizen;480768 Wrote: Yours must be different from mine then. At night mine is about 14 inches from my face (on the bedside table next to my bed) and it is far too bright. I have to hang something over the front (in fact I might put the boom back until this is fixed in the software). I think I've got it as dark as I can, even selecting the black background for the screen. MC Mine is not like that at all, you can literally barely make it out. I'm also super sensitive to light at night and routinely tape over LEDs, put black out tint on clocks, etc, but I have not had to do any of that with the Squeezebox. Did you try resetting your Radio to defaults and see if that fixes the behavior? The only other thing I can think of is that you have some ambient light in the room which is hitting the sensor on the face of the radio and fooling it into thinking the room is brighter than it is. As an experiment you can try covering the top edge of the radio with your hand. The display should dim down to the point you can barely see it at all, in just a matter of 10-15 seconds. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70618 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Please vote on my preset enhancement request
peterw;480774 Wrote: Have you looked at the Power Save plugin? Nope, I will investigate it, thanks. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70833 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
Ah, I lied, I did still have a copy of it squirreled away. Here's a sample, it looks like the whole log file is filled with the same message; 09-11-02 09:00:41.1289] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [09:00:41.1281] Use of uninitialized value $line in substitution (s///) at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/TrackStat/Backup/File.pm line 290, BACKUPFILE chunk 1030854. [09-11-02 09:00:41.1307] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [09:00:41.1297] Use of uninitialized value $line in substitution (s///) at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/TrackStat/Backup/File.pm line 290, BACKUPFILE chunk 1030854. [09-11-02 09:00:41.2418] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [09:00:41.2413] Use of uninitialized value $line in substitution (s///) at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/TrackStat/Backup/File.pm line 290, BACKUPFILE chunk 1030854. [09-11-02 09:00:41.2425] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [09:00:41.2422] Use of uninitialized value $line in substitution (s///) at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/TrackStat/Backup/File.pm line 290, BACKUPFILE chunk 1030854. [09-11-02 09:00:41.2432] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [09:00:41.2428] Use of uninitialized value $line in substitution (s///) at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/TrackStat/Backup/File.pm line 290, BACKUPFILE chunk 1030854. [09-11-02 09:00:41.2438] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [09:00:41.2435] Use of uninitialized value $line in substitution (s///) at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/TrackStat/Backup/File.pm line 290, BACKUPFILE chunk 1030854. [09-11-02 09:00:41.2445] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [09:00:41.2441] Use of uninitialized value $line in substitution (s///) at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/TrackStat/Backup/File.pm line 290, BACKUPFILE chunk 1030854. [09-11-02 09:00:41.2451] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1165) Warning: [09:00:41.2448] Use of uninitialized value $line in substitution (s///) at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/TrackStat/Backup/File.pm line 290, BACKUPFILE chunk 1030854. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
Also I can just send you chunks of the raw XML file if that would be helpful. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Auto dimming changed and too dim
12 inches, really? No, mine is not 12 inches from my face, more like a meter or more. It also sits on a black table top so no chance of any reflections from that. My room is literally pitch black and I can barely read the display on the Radio. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70618 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
erland;480997 Wrote: Is this the XML file you have specified in the parameter: Settings - Plugins - TrackStat - Backup/Restore/Clear - Backup file If this is the case I understand why you have problems, because this is a iTunes XML file not a backup file from TrackStat. The Backup file parameter need to contain the full path to a backup file for TrackStat when you hit the Restore from file button. If you want to do an import from iTunes using the TrackStat statistics importer, you will instead need to setup this here: Settings - Plugins - Custom Scan - iTunes Statistics Import Thanks for the clarification. Yes, I was just trying to feed TrackStat the raw XML data from an iTunes Library via the backup/restore functionality.. I saw some very vague information about how to import the data into Trackstat that mentioned restoring the data and it's obvious now that it won't work that way. As long as I have your attention, maybe you could provide me with just a bit of guidance. I have the goal of being able to keep my ratings synch'd between iTunes and Trackstat running on the Squeezebox Server. My entire music library is stored on a Windows Home Server via SMB share. I play the music and keep it all rated and organized on an iMac running OS X 10.6.2. Is there any way for me to share the ratings data between the Mac and Trackstat running on the Squeezebox Server or would I have to effectively move my iTunes library completely to the box that Squeeze Server runs on? Hopefully this isn't too confusing. It has long been a source of frustration for me that I organize all of my music on my iPhone and Mac but have no easy access to this data when playing my various other devices, including my several Squeezebox devices. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Auto power off?
Is there already a request in to add an auto off feature to the radio? Since many of us use this as an alarm clock, etc. It would be nice to be able to program the radio to power down after a set number of inactive minutes, so that it goes back to displaying the clock. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70696 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is stuttering during streaming
Have you tried using the wired connection on the squeezebox radio to play the same material? Try going hard wired. If the problems go away then there is something going on with the network, even if it is just the type of encryption you are using. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70651 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
programmed to do. This appears to be buggy behavior and hopefully can be improved upon in future versions. Another issue that I consider rather major is that when the alarm is sounding it shows the alarm time prominently displayed. This should be the ACTUAL current time with the alarm time below, especially for heavy sleepers who keep banging on the snooze button. Another thing for the alarm that would be nice is the ability to label alarms so that they read his and hers, etc. It is a bit confusing for my wife if she needs to program alarm 1 versus alarm 2. On the whole the radio works very well. I was very pleased with the Pandora functionality and hope that with the remote it will be possible to thumbs up or thumbs down a Pandora selection directly. I did notice that even though I have a Pandora One account that allows for streaming of 192kbps that the Squeezebox Radio only streamed at 128kbps. Perhaps this is a Pandora limitation. One thing that did bug me throughout my use of the radio though was the now playing screen. It really bugged me that the album artwork had the top chopped off by the progress bar and track details (particularly annoying with the numerous album covers that show the artist, it winds up that their head is chopped off like a photograph taken by a small child). Perhaps some alternate configurations can be provided in future firmware versions. From a very long time Slim Devices customer I can give this unit a hearty thumbs up! I would like to see a lot of the wrinkles get ironed out in the coming months and honestly I think that at the $199 price point it should include the remote and battery pack (many competing $149 devices have this functionality). There is, however, simply no better option I am currently aware of for freeing your music in a small table top solution than this Squeezebox Radio. Job well done Sean, Dean and company! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
toby10;480371 Wrote: To turn off operation beeps: Settings Audio Sound Effects None Initially the Album Art was about 1/3 smaller on the Radio and many wanted larger images. I would love to see a setting option for such art like Large (full screen like, it is now) and Small (about 1/4 to 1/3 smaller, text does not cover album). If it can only be a menu item within Settings that would be acceptable, but it would be better IMO to make it a simple on the fly option while in the Now Playing screen. I suggested a knob turn in Now Playing would re-size the art on the fly. A Knob turn currently does nothing in Now Playing (unless you push the knob). The idea being each right click increases art size by 1/3, each left click decreases art size by 1/3, max three turns each way, fourth click (either direction) brings you back to the original art size. But they seem to be interested in waiting for a third party plugin for this type of feature (assuming it is even possible at all). Thanks for the heads up! I suspected that there was some way to turn off the beeps but just had not found the setting yet. Even better than having the knob change album artwork size would be to simply have several completely different now playing screens and allow the knob to cycle through them. This should make just about everyone happy. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My mini review of the Squeezebox Radio
SuperQ;480409 Wrote: Unfortunately, it seems like Best Buy is completely dropping the Squeezebox lineup. They didn't even have any in stock last time I was at a store a few weeks ago. The sales people also indicated that they weren't going to stock them at all, and wanted to show me these nice sony products. Bleh! When they found the Squeezebox Radio for me it was coming fresh off the truck along with a couple of Squeeze Boom units. So, I think the sales people you talked to were misinformed, or were simply idiots, either would not surprise. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70788 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is stuttering during streaming
boexli;480393 Wrote: I have not yet tried using a wired connection because I bought it for wireless use only. I use my wireless network for many devices including my boom device and I have had no issues so far. therfore I dont intend to change my wireless settings because of the radio which is still making problems. i have read an online review at PCMAG.com and it looks that they must have ran into the same issue??!! http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2354904,00.asp The greatest issue you're likely to face with the Squeezebox Radio is stuttering during streaming. Thanks a lot for all your help / Nick Nick, I don't think you are being fair. Connecting the unit to a wired connection is simply to PROVE whether the stuttering issue is due to the network connection or some other factor. In the network troubleshooting world these type of diagnostics are critical for figuring out problems. If you determine that it does not stutter during wired playback then investigation can turn to other things such as possible sources of wireless interference, type of network encryption being used, network parameters, etc. Any number of things could very possibly be modified fixing the problem. If, on the other hand you'd rather complain and not do any troubleshooting then don't be surprised if the level of help you receive starts to tail off. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70651 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Can't save playlist as Favorite?
I broke down and bought a Squeezebox Radio today and for the most part I'm impressed. However, I have found a few issues. Most of my current frustration centers around the use of Favorites and Presets. I want to add several of my playlists on my Squeezebox Server as Favorites. However, when I navigate to the Playlists menu, highlight a playlist and press the + key there is no choice to add the playlist to the favorites menu. The primary reason I want to be able to add Playlists to Favorites is so that I can assign them to the Preset buttons on the front of the radio. Any help is appreciated. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70684 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] For those of you thinking about returning your Radio ...
gweempose;471701 Wrote: My suggestion is to be patient. Yes, the Radio is quite buggy at the moment. There is no denying it. Nevertheless, I have faith that Logitech will eventually fix all these issues. I remember when the controller first came out. That thing was riddled with bugs. There were times when I wanted to throw it as hard as I could at a brick wall. Fast forward to the present, and the controller has evolved into a pretty rock solid piece of hardware. I am confident that the same thing will ultimately happen with the Radio. Companies should not be rewarded for rushing buggy products to the market. Purchasing such products and not promptly returning them encourages the wrong behavior. All products have bugs, but they should not be expected or tolerated to a high degree in premium price products like the Squeezebox Radio. This thing costs almost as much as a PS3 for crying out loud. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69719 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio use as bedside radio/alarm
I'm glad this has been asked and appears to have been addressed. I am also a sleeper who is extremely sensitive to lights in my room, to the point that I've had to put tape over the lights on many things such as the base to my Harmony remote that is in the bedroom. One of the questions that I have though is regarding the white numbers on black background. Are there plans to provide other colors for the alarm display? I've observed that blue is one of the hardest to sleep with colors and red is one of the easiest to sleep with. Thanks. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69485 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
